My Tent Was the Only Thing Keeping it From Us! (Archive Episode)

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All right, Big Faciety, thanks
for coming back to another episode.

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I've got the privilege of talking to
a new friend, mister Brian Garvey tonight.

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How's it going, Brian? Very
good, Jeremiah, good to be

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here man. Awesome, awesome.
So Brian, you are a new Hampshire

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based outdoorsman and hiker. Correct,
yes, yeah, since twenty eighteen,

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I've been hiking. Oh that's awesome. So tell me a little bit about

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that. I know you've got a
friend that goes hiking with you as well,

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and I'd like to hear all about
that. Uh chewie, you want

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to yeah, totally. Ah,
okay, Well this started twenty eighteen.

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I in twenty fifteen, I should
jump back to that. I started getting

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into exercising and wanted to lose weight. And I'm always looking for that extra

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just that next activity to do,
and cause you kind of get you get

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tired of running, you get tired
of going to the gym. I want

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something outside that that I love to
do. And I came across in twenty

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eighteen. My girlfriend now wife took
me to Mount Washington. Now. Mount

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Washington is located in northern New Hampshire. It's in the Presidential Range. It

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is the highest mountain in the northeast
six thousand, two hundred and eighty eight

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feet around there roughly. I'm in
the ballpark there, big tourist destination,

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uh finding Bigfoot. And I believe
it was one of the last seasons they

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went to Mount Washington and did an
episode on New Hampshire. And that was

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eye opening for me just because of
what happened to me way back in two

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thousand and three. It opened up
my eyes and really got the light bulb

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go off in my head of what's
going on up there, because I just

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I didn't know when when I the
first thing I thought of Bigfoot was when

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I was a kid, Unsolved Mysteries
with Robert Stack did an episode on Bigfoot.

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It's like it was like the first, first or second season of that

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and I was just I was just
a young kid, and it was probably

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the first time I ever saw anything
on on Bigfoot. And when you when

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you when you see that that PG
film as a kid, you're you're in

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awe, like like something in the
Pacific Northwest that big can remain hidden for

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so long, So that that kind
of got the we're talking two thousand and

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three, you know, I planned
a trip. It was a trip with

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my girlfriend and my son, and
my son was five and a half at

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the time, so we wanted to
do something special at the end of the

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summer. This was August of two
thousand and three, so he was going

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to be starting kindergarten. So he
was five and a half, so kindergarten

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was starting a couple of weeks.
We want to do something special. Now

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up in New Hampshire, in Glen
New Hampshire, they have this this amusement

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park called story Lands. It's it's
based for children and and and I never

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heard of it. I've never been
to New Hampshire at the time, I

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was twenty three. So I'm like, oh, what a great idea we

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could get out go see what the
mountains look like. It was great,

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it was beautiful. So we were
going to spend two days, two nights,

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three days at a campsite in Glen
New Hampshire. Now Glen New Hampshire

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is is It's in northern New Hampshire. It's right past the Presidential Range Mount

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Washington. So first night went great, spent the whole next day at the

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park. Came back to that day
tired, set up the camp you know,

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had the campfire go in and they
went to bed early because it was

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it was a long day. I
stayed up till till it was time to

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go to bed. Do you have
to put the campfire out at a certain

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time, So around ten o'clock I
put the campfire out, went to bed.

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Now for me, and still to
this day, when I hike and

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do overnights, I can't I have
issues falling asleep in a tent. I

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just I can't sleep on my back. I am constantly a tosser and a

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turner. I know, like when
I go on these big hikes, I

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know I'm not going to sleep.
I'm just going to toss and turn and

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I suffer. I'll suffer, but
I'll suffer because of my love for the

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mountains. Like I will get up
and I'll hike the next morning. So

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that night, I'm just laying in
the tent and it was hours hours I

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was laying there, and I'm almost
I'm getting you know, I'm getting mad.

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I'm getting aggravated because I know the
next day, like we have this

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big drive coming up, like a
four hour drive home, and I'm like,

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i gotta go to sleep. Now. The camp site, like the

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campground we had it was right on
the bend of this of this brook and

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it was probably like nine ten feet
wide where we were the brook and it

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was fast flowing, so you know, it was something you could rock hop

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across because there were boulders, but
it was nothing I didn't want my son

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to get next to because of the
rook, you know, for his age

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and the way the water was moving. I'm like, you can't go next

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to this because on the other side
it was just wilderness. So we were

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on the out, like right on
the edge of the way the campground ended.

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So that night I'm just I'm listening. I'm laying there. I'm listening

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to the water, you know,
I'm listening to all the crickets. You

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know. You hear like little mice, you know, the little mice going

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through the leaves. You know.
I'm listening to that. And I'm like,

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man, I'm like, I have
to go to sleep. So I'm

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just laying there on my back looking
up. All of a sudden, I

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hear this impression stop going across the
tent. Now. At first, like

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when I heard it, it scared
me. It scared the crap out of

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me because I'm like, who is
this jerk messing with me and my family

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in the middle the night? I
thought it was you know, I'm thinking

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it's a person just messing with us, like a drug camper, messing with

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me, putting his hand across my
tent. So you know how nylon is

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loud when you a tent is loud
when you rub against it, And that's

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what startled me. But I was
able to pick up the impression of the

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hand, probably by the door of
the tent. Now, this tent was

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a big tent. It was like
an eight person ten. It's one you

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could stand up and walk around in. So we had all our stuff on

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one side of the tent. I
was in the middle. It was my

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girlfriend and my son on the end
of the tent. So my feet were

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at the door of the tent.
So when I saw the impression above the

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tent, because I could see,
you know, like I could see the

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digits going across, and I'm like, I go up on my elbows and

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I'm watching. I'm about to get
up. I'm about to get up,

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and I'm about to open the tent. I'm gonna see who is this jernk

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messing with me? Who was this
jerk trying to scare me in the middle

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the night. So as it made
it across the tent, I'm going to

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unzip my my sleeping bag. And
as soon as I started to do that,

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I hear a growl. I hear
this, this growl. It was

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the deepest growl I have ever heard, I have ever heard in my life.

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It went from a growl, a
guttural growl, to a grunt.

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And when that when it did that
grunt, man, it my ear lobes

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vibrated like it vibrated my body to
where I I tropped right back down.

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I dropped right back down. I
put the frigging pillow over my head,

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and I just I was so confused. I went from being angry and mad

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to want to confront this person,
to be like, after I heard that

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grunt, I'm like, that's not
a person. A person. A person

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cannot do what I heard. And
it was with such ease. It was

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just it went from a I heard
the breath, the breath to the growl

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to the grunt. So it was
just seconds, you know what I mean,

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It was just seconds, But I
was I was so I was so

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confused. Just I was confused.
I was scared, and I just I

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just I fell right back down.
I put the pillow over my head,

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and I just I waited. I
waited. I was so scared because I

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didn't know what what would do that. So my first motion was like I'm

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gonna turn and I'm gonna look.
I'm gonna see if it woke up my

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girlfriend, and they are heavy sleepers, they were sound asleep. Now people

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ask me, like, well,
it was it loud and it wasn't a

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loud. It wasn't a scream.
It was just a very deep guttural growl

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to a grunt. And it blew
my mind that it could vibrate me like

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that, because that's never happened to
me before. The closest thing I could

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compare it to is going to a
concert. You get to that front row

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in front of a speaker, and
you got that guy. But I'm on

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the base and it's rattling through you. That's the closest I can I can

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tell someone what that feels like.
And after that happened, like like I

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told you, I was listening to
the crickets. I was listening to all

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the little animals. After that grunt, after that vibration, it went dead

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silent. There were no crickets.
It was dead silent. Where I couldn't.

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I couldn't. I didn't. I
couldn't. I couldn't move. And

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I don't know if I couldn't move
from the fear or if it was from

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that that rattle in my chest,
that vibration. It was something that it

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was. It confused me so much. They stayed sound asleep. They were

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sound asleep. Now after that all
happened, and it went silent. I

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just laid there. I laid there
and I couldn't move. I just I

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didn't want to move. I didn't
want whatever it was. I didn't want

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it to know I was up.
I didn't want it to come back.

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I'm thinking of the direction it was
going. It was going in the direction

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and if it came back, my
son was on the end of that tent.

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I'm thinking about that. This is
all running through my head. I'm

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thinking about I don't want this thing
coming back, you know. I'm trying

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to think of animals, what animals
could do that, because that's my first

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instinct. Bigfoot was not not even
in my mind. It was nothing I

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thought about at the time. It
was it was. It wasn't even a

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thought. I thought it was in
the Pacific Northwest. I'm like, if

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this one, there's one in the
Pacific Northwest, that's what I thought.

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It was. Just it was.
It blew my mind. It just it

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blew my mind to where I I
didn't feel safe. I didn't feel safe

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till it started getting light out and
I finally was like, like I finally

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had that sense of relief, Like
the birds started chirping, and I finally

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felt I felt safe. I'm like, whatever animal that was has definitely gone

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by now, because it's been hours. It was hours. I was laying

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there, and I remember that morning
I was so close to just I was

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so close to saying something to my
girlfriend, but I didn't want her to

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say, oh, it's just a
person, because it wasn't a person.

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A person cannot do what I felt
with that vocal. There's no way.

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It was an effortless grunt and it
was the deep. It was so deep.

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So I remember after that, like
I got out. I went outside

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the tent that morning. Now I'm
on no sleep. I'm on no sleep.

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I didn't know what to look around
for. You know, I wasn't

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sure. But we were rookie campers. You know, my coolers were out,

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like everything was out. Our marshmallows, our marshmallow sticks didn't touch it.

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Nothing was touched, nothing was moved. And I was so confused,

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Like I a'm even looking on the
ground we were on. It was a

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hard, gravelly kind of hard dirt, hard gravel. I looked around for

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like I first thought bear, because
I couldn't. I hadn't. I couldn't

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think of any other big animal in
New Hampshire that could do what happened.

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And then I'm really I'm starting to
think about it. I'm like, this,

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a bear is not going to stand
up on a time legs run it's

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poor across my tent right without putting
a frigging hole in it with its claws

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like it baffled me, and I'm
like, there's no way it is going

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to make that vibration, like I've
never heard of a bear doing that.

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And it bothered me the whole ride
home. I was just so close to

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just saying something, but it was
I kept it to myself. Now,

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I kept this to myself for eighteen
years. I told nobody, nobody.

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It was just a heavy weight that
was on my shoulders for all these years

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of just not knowing. Now.
I remember for a couple of days after

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we got back, I had such
a hard time going to sleep because it

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was all I was thinking about,
to where I finally said, Brian,

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I just forget it, man,
like, just forget it, like you're

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safe, nothing happened, your family's
fine. Just forget it, man,

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like you don't know what it was. So for years years, man,

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I didn't, I didn't know.
I didn't know until Monster Quest comes out

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two thousand and eight, two thousand
and nine, so we're talking five six

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years. I had this weight on
me. And when they talked about the

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John Mayinzinsky tent encounter, now I'm
getting goosebumps right now just thinking about that.

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He was messed with in his tent. Now, he just did an

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interview about a year ago on another
podcast where he went into great detail,

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great detail on what happened. His
tent was wrecked. His tent was wrecked,

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it was pushing down on it,
and he saw the silhouette though he

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saw the silhouette when he got out
of the tent in the in the in

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the tree line. That got the
ball rolling in my head. And then

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Monster Quest does one in New York, does the Whitehall. They did a

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New York episode. They're talking about
the guy that felt the vibration, that

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even his pant leg like he felt
the vibrations and his leg and it just

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everything everything came rushing back to that
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I was like, oh my god, I'm like, maybe that's what happened

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to me that night. Because I
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what happened that that that night,
And when I heard that, the wheel

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stopped going in my head and I'm
like, oh wow, but I still

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I still didn't wasn't for sure,
I didn't tell I still it was something

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I still just kept to myself.
Then Finding Bigfoot, like we just said

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earlier, it goes to goes to
New Hampshire, and I'm like, oh,

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I'm like, I gotta watch this, Like, I gotta watch this.

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I gotta see what they say because
I'm not gonna knock Finding Bigfoot.

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It was a great It was an
eye opening show for a lot of people

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to show what is really going on. I loved when they talked about the

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town hall meetings. I loved when
they talked about people's encounters and going to

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the sites and showing where the encounter
happened. And one of the guys they

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had on was a guy that was
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Now, this Cherry Mountain is right
next to Mount Washington, which is

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right next to where I was camping. So I'm starting to connect the dots.

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I'm starting to connect the dots.
I'm finally I think I'm finally getting

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some answers to what happened to me
that night. So when he said that

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he was getting he was getting sticks, branches, rocks thrown at his tent

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until he was scared off the mountain. He was scared off the mountain.

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Something scared him off the mountain.
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I'm like that. I'm like,
I think I had a similar thing

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happened. It wasn't rockstorn against my
tent, but it was finger Like I,

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you know, I it's been twenty
years. It'll be twenty years this

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August, that tent encounter happened.
It feels like it just happened yesterday.

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Man, Like I can just I
can just look. I can just close

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my eyes and I can just picture
the impressions going across man and then the

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power of the vocal is just It's
something I've had some I've had a few

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traumatic things happened to me. But
the one I think about the most,

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the one I think about every day, is that night the tent man.

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Because I have not since this has
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camp alone. I can't fit,
I can't camp alone, I can't go

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out in the tent by myself.
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He is on every adventure with me
out in the mountains, and I

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need to go to a tent site. They have these tent sites in the

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White Mountain National Forest that you can
stay in. The pay the caretaker a

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fee. It's like fifteen bucks a
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But there are other hikers there.
I'm fine with that. I can

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camp with other people. I can
stay out with other people alone in my

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tent, but if I am out
there, I can't do it. I

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have chickened out twice trying to stealth
camp on one of these hikes, and

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I'm just like, NA, just
go to the tent site. Man,

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I wasn't right. I haven't been
ready to do that until this year.

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I am finally going to try to
do that. But we'll get into that

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story a little later. So that
was like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.

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It was one of finding Bigfoots last
seasons when I heard this. So for

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me, since then eighteen, I
started getting into hiking. I did my

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first mountain, which I said before
Mount Washington with my girlfriend and I instantly,

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I instantly fell in love. It's
mountain hiking. I love the quiet,

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I love the solitude. I'm one
of those hikers. If I have

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the trail to myself, like and
I have a mountain peak to myself,

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that's my lottery, that's Michael.
There's nothing more that I like than having

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that to myself. So for me, it's the solitude of the mountains.

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It's the reward at the end with
the epic views. So twenty eighteen,

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I'm going on this big hike.
Like after that Mount Washington. I had

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to look up. I'm like,
what are the mountains can I do in

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that area? So I find out
there's this list called the New Hampshire forty

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eight. Now the New Hampshire four
eight is forty eight four thousand foot peaks

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in New Hampshire that you can,
you know, just do as a get

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your little reward and get a little
patch at the end when you finish.

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You know. I'm like, oh, that is great. That's something I

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could do with my dog. But
you know what I'm going to do.

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I'm going to document every hike.
So I have a go pro for me,

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and now I have a go pro
for my dog Chewy, so I

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put a go pro on him.
I got to go pro and I'm just

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I'm vlogging as I'm hiking. I'm
you know, I don't have it on

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constantly, but clips of just perfect
views and where I'm at and what I'm

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doing. And we've been doing that
for it's oh five years now. Wow.

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Yeah, So we finished, we
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But now I've gone on to you
know, hiking from my Maine and

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all up in these these these areas
that there's not a lot of people.

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You're talking. Maine is the like
the percentage wise most forested state in America,

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like forest of population. Absolutely,
yeah, And along with Vermont and

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New Hampshire, those those those if
you want, if you want solitude,

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you want you want to go hike
and be and be in a quiet area

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where there's not a lot of rural
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you want to go. New Hampshire
from Aunt Maine. So twenty eighteen,

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we're doing this big hike. Now, this this hike is is called the

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Pemmy Loop. Now they call it
the Pemmy Loop because you're in this section

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of the White Mountain National Forest.
This White Mountain National Forest is eight hundred

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thousand acres of protective it's a massive
that's that's massive, Like it's mind blowing.

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It's it's a lot of land.
And you have these pockets here and

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there in New Hampshire where it's just
protected forest. There's maybe one trail going

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in. You might have a trail
a few miles away, but it's just

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here in that trail in rugged wilderness. Now, the one thing I want

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to say about the how rugged it
is in New Hampshire. I mean,

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they don't call the Granite State for
nothing, you know. I mean that's

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old. It's granted, it's rock. I mean your feet doing a big

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height your by the end of that
hike, your feet are junk. You

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know. You're carrying a big multi
day pack, like a forty pound pack

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over mountain peaks. Now this this
Pemmigewasip. It's a big thirty one point

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five mile hike over thirteen mountain peaks. Some people do it in like a

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day. The nuts, the runners, those those marathon like those those you

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know ultra marathon people will jog it
slowly and it will take them like sixteen

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hours. We do it in a
day and a half. We're pretty fast.

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Hikers, me and Chewy, but
we'll do it overnight. We'll stay

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at a campsite, and then we'll
finish it the next day. So I'm

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on my way up this trail.
Now this now, this section of the

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pema Juwassit Wilderness, it's forty six
thousand acres of the eight hundred thousand acres

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of the White Mountains. It's the
biggest area of the White Mountains in one

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area because it's broken up through the
state the White Mountains. So we're on

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this trek. I'm like, we're
going to bang out twelve thirteen peaks.

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I'm like, this is great.
So we're on our way up. Now.

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To go into this area, you
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Now, this Lincoln Woods, there's
this bridge you walk across, and

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once you walk over that bridge,
over that Pemmy that Pemmy River, it's

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just you and the wilderness. There's
no car that can get in, there's

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nothing, it's just pure solitude.
Now this Lincoln this Lincoln this Lincoln Trail,

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this Lincoln Woods Trail, it breaks
up to this Lincoln Brook Trail and

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Franconia Brook Trail. We're taking the
Franconia Brook Trail up to the one section

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to go to do a whole full
circle of the mountains, because the mountains

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it's like twelve mountains in a big
circle and in the middle is the Pemi

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Wilderness. It's just where no one
goes. Nobody goes, you know what

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I mean, there's no trail going
right through it. So it's it's it's

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for us that there's not there's some
people. There's places that people haven't even

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gone in there, you know what
I mean. Oh, absolutely, man,

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it's you know, I grew up
in in western Massachusetts in a town

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called Northfield, and so my father
was big into the outdoors and I hiked

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all of Connecticut and Massachusetts on the
Application Trail with him over the years.

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And I know exactly these areas you're
talking about in New Hampshire, and listeners

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need to know this is nothing to
mess with at all. This area that

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Brian is talking about is life or
death type stuff. And yeah, unfortunately

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that there have been a lot of
deaths on Mount Washington. Oh yeah,

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they have a list up when you
get on the peak, you go into

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the conservatory and they have a list
of all the people that died and even

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just in the White Mountains alone,
we had I think four deaths this year

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of you know, you could be
at the bottom, you could be at

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the bottom of the parking lot,
you could be in shorts and a T

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shirt. It be you know,
high fifties. You get up into the

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thousand foot elevation range, it could
be a white out over The weather changes

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on a dime up there, and
if you're not prepared and you venture off

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trail just a little bit and you
and you get lost, it's going to

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be very hard to find you because
you don't have cell service up there.

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If you don't have if you're not
prepared with like a beacon or I carry

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a garment with me. I carry
a satellite phone just in case. Unfortunately,

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we had a nineteen year old pass
away this year. You know,

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she was trying to finish her forty
eight and she had like eight mountains left

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and she just she just lost her
way on a place I've been a few

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times, and it's easy to miss
where you're gonna go and end up in

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a gully and then you're you're lost. And unfortunately she she died on her

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birthday. So it's stuff that happens
there. If you're not. It's just

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a lack of preparation. And like
you said, it's it's nothing to mess

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with one thing, because you could
go four or five yards off trail and

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sometimes you have trouble finding that trail. Again, it's happened to me a

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few times, and I am so
lucky. I carry a garment that has

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the map, has the satellite map, and I can get back on trail

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because there's been a few times where
I'm like, oh, no trail.

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So we're going up this this,
this Lincoln Brook trail. Now you're pretty

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much following Brooks for miles on these
on these trails, and you're in a

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ravine, the ravine in between these
mountains, and I'm going up this trail

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and it was in July. We're
doing this hike. Some of these some

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of these trails are in very very
uh it's like you're going in the tunnel,

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you know, it's a The foliage
is so thick. It's almost like

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you're in a tube of a wave. It's just that thick. I'm walking.

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I'm Ladi dah. It's this is
my second time filming, okay with

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a GoPro and I'm just going along. I get chewing on the side of

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me, and as I'm walking on
this trail, about nine feet up from

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me, this branch shakes. Now
it's scared the crap out of me.

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As soon as I saw it out
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I just did one to eighty man, and I go back about thirty forty

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yards. Okay. I gathered myself
and I got my go pro out,

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and when that happened, everything from
two thousand and three just rushes back to

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me. That that feeling of being
scared stiff. It's just that that it

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brought back that night in the tent
to where I was so confused. I

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was so scared, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm like,

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I'm going to see it. I'm
gonna see this thing. I'm finally going

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to see it. Like I'm getting
my answers. I'm waiting for like two

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minutes, man, two minutes.
I got the go pro going. I'm

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just standing there just with the go
pro on the side of me, and

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all of a sudden, you know, I'm still seeing the rustling, and

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I'm like, oh my god,
all of a sudden, this big friggin

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moose comes out onto the trail scary. That's scary though, dude. That's

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people don't understand how scary that is. And it wasn't a little moose.

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They had a full rack. First
time I've seen my moose, like in

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real life besides on TV. This
is the first time I've seen a moose.

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I went from like pure, like
almost glad because of what I thought

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it was because I was scared man, to almost like, oh my god,

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I'm like, is this thing going
to charge me? I'm like,

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they do, Yeah, I have
no weapon. I carry a tactical knife.

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I don't have a gun. This
thing is just out on the trail

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and just eating the vegetation. So
that's what I was doing when I saw

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the branch shake. But I couldn't
see a thing. That's how thick the

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vegetation is. So when people say, oh, welcome moose like a sasquatch.

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Come, you know something eight feet
tall, you can't you know,

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you can't see it, dude,
Go into the White Mountain National Forest.

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Go when it's full foliage. You
can't see three five yards in you can't

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see. I couldn't see a fricking
twelve hundred pound moose. I couldn't see

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it until it came out onto the
trail. Oh yeah, So I'm like,

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I'm I'm there, scared. I'm
still filming the thing. Now I

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look down at my dog. Now
what I have to say about Chewie because

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it comes into a factor later on. What's happening to us out there?

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Any squirrel, chipmunk, uh,
deer, anything, dear and lower,

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he's gonna chase. He is gonna
beline it, and he will chase.

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I will stream at the top of
my lunch. Chewey, there is no

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He's just it's like a shark.
It's like a shark sensing blood. He's

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just bose. Wow. He was
more scared than I was when that moose

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popped out, like he did not
want to move. I was on that

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trail man for three or four minutes, not moving wave of that moose to

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get off the trail so I could
keep going. The thing is I had

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to drag Chewie. Now he has
a harness on him, and so I

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am dragging him to get by this
moose, which was probably by the time

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I got by the moose, it
was probably about fifteen yards in. But

407
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.240
I'm like, this is my chance, this is my chance. To get

408
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:05.519
by this moose. So after all
that happened, my adrenaline is crazy.

409
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.880
It's just my heart. I was
so thankful nothing happened. Like I don't

410
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.319
know anything about moose like the rut, you know, like I didn't know,

411
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.599
like, oh, you didn't know
anything about moose staring. Oh my

412
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.839
god, that's horrifying. I didn't
know what to do. I didn't like,

413
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.319
I'm not gonna make noise to go
hide behind a tree because it's just

414
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:32.440
knock that freaking tree right down coming
at me. Still still still. I

415
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:38.359
was so scared, man. So
after that happened, all I could think

416
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.039
about. All I could think about
was that night, the tent and what

417
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.000
happened to me that night. It
brought back that fear, that that fear

418
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:52.559
of being scared stiff to where I'm
like, I'm like, I remember when

419
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.519
I finished that hike, man,
as soon as I got home. I

420
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.839
was never a YouTube guy, you
know, I was never a tech.

421
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:06.279
I didn't start watching YouTube till twenty
eighteen. I never got into it.

422
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.920
So I'm like, I gotta find
answers. I gotta find answers. And

423
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.480
what happened to me that night,
you know, because the shows gave me,

424
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.119
you know, Like I said,
the light bulb went off a little

425
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.280
bit with with those monster quests and
finding Bigfoot, and they got thinking about

426
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:30.679
that. So I go home and
I put in New Hampshire Sasquatch and co

427
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.519
Os County wood devil pops up.
I'm like, oh God, I'm glad

428
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.079
we're going here because I was like, I'm gonna I'm really curious if he's

429
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.360
gotten here before. I'm glad to
bring this up. Dude. When that

430
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.440
popped up, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no

431
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:50.559
no, I'm like sasquatch. Little
did I know back in the late eighteen

432
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:58.239
hundreds early nineteen hundreds when they were
encounters. Back then, they didn't call

433
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.840
them what we call them now.
They called them wood devils, wold devils,

434
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:07.119
and hairy men. And I that
sent me, dude, anyone knows

435
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:14.760
who gets into this sasquatch realm.
You go down that rabbit hole. I

436
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.199
went down that rabbit hole, man, and I was just sasquatch chronicles pops

437
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:24.840
up. Oh yeah, chronicles didn't
know what it was. And then I

438
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.079
saw listening to a couple episodes,
I was hooked. I was hooked.

439
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.920
I was listening to it at work
all day. I had my earbuds and

440
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.599
I'm listening to Sasquatch Chronicles episodes.
I went all the way back to episode

441
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:44.519
one and I just listened to all
them all and then I'm hearing I'm hearing

442
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:50.079
all these similar encounters. I'm hearing
these ten encounters in New Hampshire. I'm

443
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:53.320
here in a woman's ten encounter in
her yard in New Hampshire, camping with

444
00:35:53.400 --> 00:36:00.639
her kids, where they a juvenile
sasquatch was running in. I went along

445
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.480
the attent and rubbed across the attent
and I was like, I was like,

446
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:10.280
oh my god. I'm like I
was, It's happened to other people

447
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:19.599
finally getting these answers. So wow. So that was twenty eighteen that happened,

448
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.320
and it didn't. It didn't.
You know, I still didn't say

449
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:30.280
anything to anyone because it's very taboo
up here in the Northeast. Absolutely,

450
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:37.920
absolutely, dude, And that is
a big problem upp here. You don't

451
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.360
hear a lot of you don't hear
a lot of account people don't tell what's

452
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.679
going on. For one, a
lot of it happens on private lands.

453
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.639
Like I've talked with Alex Pettakov and
another buddy of mine, Evan, he

454
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:59.320
goes buy New Hampshire Sasquatch. He's
another guy that collects He collects eyewitness data

455
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.519
on account owners and they've collaborated together, him and Alex and they have a

456
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.079
map of these cluster areas in New
Hampshire where there are these these encounters and

457
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:14.199
sightings, and it just blew my
mind. It blew my mind. And

458
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.079
like I said, I'm doing a
lot of these hikes in this wilderness,

459
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:27.920
and this one hike comes up.
This hike is called Owl's Head. Now,

460
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.000
Oh, that sounds really familiar.
This Owl's Head is in the Pemmy

461
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:39.679
juwasst Wilderness. Okay, this is
a seventeen point two mile hike. You're

462
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.880
going just to get to the base
of the mountain. You're going eight miles

463
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.400
into the wilderness. So I'm taking
that same route. Like I said,

464
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.800
I took the Lincoln Brook Trail on
that on that Pemmy loop, And the

465
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:58.199
other trail when you veery off to
the left is the Franconia Brook Trail.

466
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:06.760
Oh yep, I'm on that Franconia
Brook trail going up to this, going

467
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.519
up to this Owls Head. Now, this owl's head. This wasn't number

468
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.920
forty three for us on the New
Hampshire forty eight. So I was getting

469
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.519
close to the end. I was
doing a lot of hiking around that time,

470
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.320
twenty nineteen. I really started really
just every other week, and I

471
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.000
am just going and I'm banging out
mountains, and I'm banging out mountains.

472
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.519
This is the one no one wants
to do because, let alone, it's

473
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.639
a seventeen point two out and back
hike, but it's a viewless peak.

474
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.840
There is nothing to look at at
the top. So it's one of those

475
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.519
like ugh, like let's just get
it out of the way now. It's

476
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:46.840
turned out to be one of my
favorite hikes because of what's happened. But

477
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:55.480
so we're on this Franconia Brook trail
and I'm about three and a half miles

478
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.360
in. You come to this.
It's a pond. It's called Black Pond.

479
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.960
So I take this. It's a
bushwhack I could take to save me

480
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.079
like zero point two miles. It
was zero point four miles total to save

481
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.719
to do this. Brian, that's
to start to a really bad story.

482
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.480
Okay, So I'm gonna bush whack
in the middle of the Pemmy Wilderness.

483
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.159
It's it's a fairly okay. It's
a trail that a lot of people use,

484
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.960
but they don't paint it well.
So you do have the foot traffic

485
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.920
to way. You can follow it
pretty pretty well. But I mean,

486
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.320
gorgeous, gorgeous area. I'll send
you a picture of it. It's a

487
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.960
beautiful area. It's a pond in
the middle of nowhere, like glass.

488
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:42.159
You know, it's like looking at
glass and you get the mountains coming,

489
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.079
you know, the mountains in the
background, and you get in the mountains

490
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:46.880
on the water. Just a beautiful
area. I'm like, oh, go

491
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:52.039
to the perfect spot for me and
Chewie to have a water break. Say

492
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.440
where I'm at with my GoPro and
stuff and what we're doing, and we'll

493
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:59.960
just get back on this bushwhack.
So now, when I'm on these heights,

494
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.599
like Sasquatch is not in my mind
twenty four to seven, like I'll

495
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.280
listen to I'll listen to a podcast
on the way up, you know what

496
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.159
I mean, I'll listen to a
story on the way up. It's once

497
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.119
you get into that mode of hiking, it's it's I'm not thinking about that

498
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:22.599
stuff. You know. So we're
about halfway down, halfway done with this

499
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:27.960
this bushwhack, and I'm just going
Lottie to Now. What I want people

500
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:35.079
to know is like I'm not filming
constantly anyone that has a GoPro. Those

501
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.760
batteries do not last, you know. So I'm just I'm doing highlights of

502
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.480
the hike, Like a few minutes
here, I'll say what I'm doing,

503
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.199
a few minutes there, you know, I'll turn Chewi's on while we're at

504
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.320
like a peak, I'll put Chewes
GoPro on and get his point of view.

505
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:53.320
So we're on this path and all
of a sudden, I hear this

506
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.679
wow wow wow wow wow wow.
Six of them, six of them to

507
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.239
wear. My eyes were flinching.
I was flinching. It was that loud

508
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.039
off to my right, like like
like someone banging a hammer and you don't

509
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.320
know they're going to bang the hammer
and you're next to them, and you're

510
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:14.599
like you like that, You're like
flinching. Yeah, I was so confused.

511
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.760
The first thing I thought of was
woodpecker. You know, you first

512
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.159
took you think of the first animal
that could do that, that is that

513
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.039
comes to your mind. I first
thought woodpecker, and I'm like, like,

514
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:29.039
that can't be a woodpecker. That's
not enough to make you flinch like

515
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.639
that. Though it way too loud, it's way too hard. It was

516
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:39.039
very hard and fast, and just
six of them, twelve to fifteen seconds

517
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.440
go by, and then I get
six knocks to my left, a little

518
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:50.480
further away, a little further away, and I was like, oh my

519
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.159
god. I'm like, it just
happened over there, but a little further

520
00:41:53.239 --> 00:42:00.719
away. Twelve to fifteen seconds later, I get six knocks way off to

521
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:06.159
the front of me. At that
time, I pop on my go pro.

522
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.880
I pop it on. I just
heard knocks in three different directions.

523
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.480
I'm saying, what's going on.
I'm so used to doing it on my

524
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.239
hike stat It's to me, it's
like my my go pro. I'm talking

525
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.519
to a person that is like my
safety valve. You know what I'm saying.

526
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.079
I'm out of the here by myself. You know, I'm going out

527
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:27.079
to these places. It's just me
and the dog, so that's kind of

528
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.039
my lifeline. I kind of look
at it, so I'm saying, what's

529
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.000
going on. I mean, I'm
f bombing. I have it. I

530
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.960
have it. All on. I
have it all on camera, you know

531
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:43.159
what I mean, I'm saying what
happened, and I was just so I

532
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.000
was so confused, and I was
like, oh my god. I'm like,

533
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:51.039
I'm hearing knocks in three different directions
six, six, and six.

534
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.559
I'm like, that's that's it's not
an echo. I'm like, it's not

535
00:42:54.840 --> 00:43:00.840
an echo. So I do my
thing. I'm walking on the trail.

536
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.079
It was a few minutes. I
have to go pro going, So I

537
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.880
put Chow's goal pro on and I'm
like, i gotta see. I got

538
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:08.639
to see if it happens again.
I was in that area. I was

539
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.280
probably like it was like ten fifteen
minutes. I'm going. I'm just I'm

540
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:16.000
kind of I'm pacing back and forth. Man, I'm pacing back and forth.

541
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.239
I'm looking around and it's quiet.
You know. You hear the occasional

542
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.199
bird, you know, but it's
just quiet. I'm watching my dog.

543
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.840
I'm seeing how he's acting, and
he's sniffing around and kind of looking around,

544
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.920
but he's not on that high alert. So I kind of was like,

545
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.719
oh, like okay, so I
would say my goal pro I'm like,

546
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:39.800
all right, I'm just gonna keep
on going shut my goal, pro

547
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:46.400
off dude. Ten seconds later,
six knocks again to my right. Oh

548
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:55.039
man, I was like, I
was so afraid and confused, because it's

549
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.320
never I didn't put any stock into
the Knox. Ever in these stories where

550
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.559
I hear these guys banging on you, I'm like, what are you doing?

551
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:06.920
Man, I'm like, come on, like you're banging on trees.

552
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:12.559
I until it happened to me,
and of course in the back, I'm

553
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.559
starting to think sasquatch. After the
six knocks, three knocks to my left,

554
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:23.639
same distance, a little further away
as the ones prior and right at

555
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:30.320
that moment, I felt like I
was in a crossfire of communication. That's

556
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:37.760
what it felt like at the time, and I I was so I wanted

557
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:42.519
to see what was doing it because
the ones to my right were the closest,

558
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.880
and those were the ones that kept
going first before the rounds again.

559
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:52.119
But after the three to the left, three to the freak in front of

560
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.880
me, the ones that were far
away, it happened again. Three so

561
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:00.719
six three three on that second round
of Knox, yeah, pro goes back

562
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.920
on. I'm like, it just
definite happened again. Now, anyone that

563
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.199
wants to watch this. I put
it up on my channel like it's just

564
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:12.880
raw and unedited, and me,
oh yeah, no, it's gonna definitely

565
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.039
be in the show notes. It's
it's I mean, it's it's a require.

566
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:21.239
I said, I sent you a
few wings. Yeah, that's one

567
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:25.840
of them. That was one of
them. And I got so scared because

568
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.119
I don't know what those knocks mean. Man, That's the thing no one

569
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.480
does, right. So when I
see these guys knock and I'm like,

570
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.639
what are you doing? You don't
know what that means. Man, I'm

571
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.840
going out with guys that like to
knock, you know, and I get

572
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.159
scared may knock because I'm like,
dude, you don't know what that means.

573
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.199
Man. You can have as much
fun as you want to bang it

574
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.679
on that you don't know. Because
when I'm going out on like these researching

575
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:58.760
you know, investigations with Alex and
stuff, I'm not a knocker, man.

576
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.280
I am one of those guys want
to sit and be quiet and just

577
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.679
let nature come to me, you
know what I mean, Let them let

578
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.320
they have curiosity come check me out, don't. I don't want to.

579
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.199
I'm not swinging anything, man,
because I don't know what that means.

580
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.199
Well, as all this is going
on, I'm like, oh my god,

581
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.280
I'm like, I gotta call Alex. That's awesome. Yeah, totally,

582
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:30.239
I didn't know who to talk to. And I'm going to skip back

583
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:37.519
a minute, because the first time
I came out with my story of what

584
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.400
happened to me in that tent,
it was like a month after my dad

585
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.800
died. I was in such an
emotional state. That was December of twenty

586
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:52.880
twenty. Wow. And after that
happened, I'm thinking about this heavy weight

587
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.480
that's been on me with this this
tenth thing, because I kind of had

588
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:04.440
a clue what it was, but
I still haven't told anyone. And I

589
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.360
remember going on a winter hike and
I was just so ready to just I

590
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.039
needed to just I need to just
say it. So I had my GoPro.

591
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.719
I just started feeling myself as I'm
hiking on this winter hike about what

592
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.760
happened to me in that tent,
and it was like a sixteen seventeen minute

593
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.880
video of me just it was my
first time ever it coming out of my

594
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:31.039
mouth, and I felt so good
after finally saying it, even if it

595
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.639
was just to the camera. Man, it felt so good to say it,

596
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.400
but it was something that I sat
on. I sat on it for

597
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:44.239
a month. I didn't post it
on my channel. I waited it because

598
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.800
I didn't want I was saying,
it's very tamboo up here. I didn't

599
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.360
want. I didn't want to get
that look. I didn't want to get

600
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.239
that look like, oh, this
guy's freaking crazy, you know, like

601
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.880
heviewing this crap, he doesn't know. I didn't want that for my family,

602
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.239
you know what I mean. I
didn't want that. I didn't want

603
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.079
to be let down, do you
know what I mean? I didn't want

604
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:13.039
that negative feedback from it. You
know what I mean? Oh, I

605
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.239
get it because I grew up first
twenty years of my life were in New

606
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:22.719
England, and it's like it's a
lot of there's an unwritten thing where it's

607
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:28.760
like you just shut your mouth and
if you're you're not the guy that starts

608
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.800
talking about stuff. And I wasn't
in the big footback then. It's like

609
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:37.119
I heard maybe one thing growing up
about something weird, and it was like

610
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.960
about coy dogs. It wasn't Bigfoot
old timers on a porch talking about coy

611
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.119
dogs. If you get that but
I totally am with you. Man,

612
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:51.239
Like in that area of the US, you just usually don't open your mouth

613
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.920
about this. You don't and especially
that you don't, like I said,

614
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:55.960
you don't want to, you know, I don't want to tell my you

615
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.480
know, like my mother or my
girlfriend and have a look at me like

616
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.559
like that, give me that look. I didn't want to be let down.

617
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:09.880
So when I'm like you know what, I'm like, I'm gonna upload

618
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:15.480
it onto my channel and I'm going
to see if someone will reach out to

619
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:21.480
me to see what to see if
I could have someone to talk to about

620
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.400
it. So I put it out
and then I finally I shared it on

621
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.320
social media. I put it on
the Sasquatch Chronicles fan page on you on

622
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:37.519
Facebook. Yeah yeah, So I
just got this outpour of comments, positive

623
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:44.239
comments that I was like, oh, it felt so good finally to have

624
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:50.880
other people share their stories with me
that I've had something similar happen with feeling

625
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.320
the vocals or people from New Hampshire
that watched me and be like, oh

626
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.800
my god, like I didn't even
know what was going on up here,

627
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.960
like people like I was like,
oh, like it was such a weight

628
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:12.239
being lifted off my shoulders after seventeen
years of not telling anyone. So I

629
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.320
get this instant message from a guy
I didn't know, and he's like,

630
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:22.079
hey man, he's like, I
just saw your your your post on Sasquatch

631
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:23.800
Chronicles. He's like, I'm from
New Hampshire. He's like, I make

632
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:28.639
a lot of documentaries, mostly on
cryptids. He's like, I do a

633
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.280
lot of local stuff. He's like, if you ever want He's like,

634
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.440
if I, if you could,
you know, fill out this information like

635
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.840
an encounter so he could keep a
record of it. I was like,

636
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.239
oh, sure, man, yeah
I could do that. But first I

637
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.800
wanted to look him up. I
wanted to see who this guy was,

638
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.039
because I'm not I don't want to
be ridiculed. I don't want to I

639
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.239
don't want to be like like it's
a trick, you know what I mean,

640
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.960
like I'm getting bamboozled or anything,
you know, like Alexander Pettakov.

641
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.679
I'm like, who is this guy? Sounds weird to me, right,

642
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.559
So I'm looking on I see his
profile with his camera and he's you know,

643
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:07.679
and he's and I look at his
stuff. He's like, yeah,

644
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.480
I'm a local docum, you know. He's like, I make a lot

645
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:13.760
of documentaries and I was like,
oh wow. So I looked at all

646
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.400
this stuff. I'm like, oh
wow, he is legit, like he

647
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:22.360
really wants to know. And ever
since that day, like we we we

648
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:27.440
had that connection with the Mountain Hiking
because he's done The New Hampshire forty eight

649
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.840
as well, and I was like, oh wow, finally someone I could

650
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:37.639
talk to about this. And of
course everyone now in the YouTube world who

651
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:43.320
lists follows the Sasquatch, you know, rabbit Hole, knows who Alexander Petagov

652
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.280
is. Now I would hope that
everyone listening knows who Alex Petticov is.

653
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.920
N you don't you really need to. I'm going to have a few links

654
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.679
in the show notes just in case
that one person doesn't know. Yeah,

655
00:51:54.800 --> 00:52:00.480
make that different. So yeah,
yeah, because this is this something me

656
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.239
and Evan found, you know,
last year where we had to call Alex

657
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.039
for help on this and it ended
up being a multiple monsters. He ended

658
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.920
up doing up beyond the trail episode
of what we found. So but we'll

659
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:16.840
get into that a little bit later. Yeah. So I talked to him

660
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.639
and he's like, yeah, He's
like, oh, I have this this

661
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:28.000
Sasquatch Out of the Shadows YouTube channel
that's you know, before that's before he

662
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.400
hit like the let's call him the
celebrity in the Sasquatch. You know.

663
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:37.280
Yeah, people might not really,
so that's true. People might not realize

664
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:45.039
that he has an amazing YouTube channel
with some of the best Bigfoot themed interviews

665
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.840
that exist on YouTube. He does, and I'm counting everyone, like,

666
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.039
yeah, it is a great heat. I mean from meldrum to breed,

667
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:58.320
like he's had everyone on there.
And Alex is very articulate, he is

668
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.960
very good with his words. He's
he's great interviews, great, just a

669
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.360
great guy all around. You know. I always telling him, like,

670
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.280
Alex, I just you know,
I just talked about you again, like

671
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.679
you know, like I'm like,
nothing bad, buddy, you know,

672
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:19.320
Like, but you know, I
am so lucky that he reached out to

673
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:24.960
me, because what a ride it's
been since we've met, and I'm so

674
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:30.920
lucky to have him as a friend
now. And man, what a what

675
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:35.280
a great guy. And uh yeah, anyone out there I would I would,

676
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.800
yeah, go onto his He's not
on the Sasquatch. He doesn't do

677
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:43.559
anything much with it anymore because of
the STM. He doesn't do anything on

678
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.199
the Sasquatch out of the Meadows Channel, but there's still all that great content.

679
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:51.800
It's so good like his first documentaries, you know, like it's just

680
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.280
really good stuff, just down to
earth stuff. It's just like watching it

681
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:59.239
be on the trail app pretty much. It really it really is. Yeah,

682
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:05.039
it really is. So now we'll
get since now I said, who

683
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.000
I was texting while all this is
going on. I have no service out

684
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:14.559
there when those knocks happened where we
are. We're four miles into this hike

685
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:21.119
where there is nothing else out there, no service, but I am texting.

686
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.320
I must have been. It was
so long. I'm sending him everything

687
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:30.159
that's gone. So you're texting him
without service and then when you get back

688
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:35.519
to service. Okay, I guess
right after everything happened, I was there

689
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.760
for probably fifteen minutes. I am
just writing this whole story of what's going

690
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:44.559
on. Finally I get to the
base of the mountain, after all this

691
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:52.159
has happened, it finally goes through. Wait a minute, what I'm like,

692
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.840
Alex. I'm like, I'm in
the Penny Wilderness. Man, Oh

693
00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:00.519
my god, just had some crazy
happen. Man, so I'm like,

694
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.920
I will call you when I get
home. I called him the next day.

695
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.559
I called him the next day.
I told him what happened. He's

696
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.360
like, dude, he's like,
he's like, man, he's like,

697
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.519
you know, if you want,
Brian, He's like, why did you

698
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:20.880
come on to my show and tell
your story of what's happened with you?

699
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:23.719
And I was a little hesitant at
first, because, like I said,

700
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.480
I've talked about it one time and
I was to a camera, like I

701
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:32.559
never talked with people, you know, with to another person. And I

702
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:36.039
was like, you know what,
I'm like, I'm getting all this positive

703
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.599
feedback from from my post. I'm
like, yeah, I'm like, I'll

704
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:45.559
come on, man. So his
podcast was the first podcast I really started

705
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:51.800
to listen to, like the live
streaming right and he had and you know,

706
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:53.239
one of the first ones I watched, he had Doug Hicheck on.

707
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:57.920
I mean he had Doug high Check
on twice. So everyone, I really

708
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.880
Oh the information I got of that
those two shows with Highcheck, Oh my

709
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:07.599
god. Yeah, what a wealth
of information. Like I was like when

710
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:08.679
I went on, I was like
a kid in the candy store. I

711
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:14.239
had so many questions in the live
streams. I had so many questions and

712
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.039
Doug was answering and them all,
and I was like, oh my god,

713
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.599
I'm like, I wish I could
have found this sooner, but I

714
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:25.039
am so thankful that I finally found
this. So we started talking about I'm

715
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:31.760
like, maybe these the Sasquatch have
like some kind of scent gland because you

716
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:38.000
hear some encounters you smell nothing,
and you have others where they smell this

717
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:44.039
stitch. So I threw that question
out there. Hicheck was like, yeah,

718
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.360
he's like, I believe these things
do have like some kind of gland

719
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:52.280
that they can let out, almost
like a defense like a skunk does as

720
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:57.800
a defense mechanism. I was like, yes, I'm like, maybe maybe

721
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.079
it could. Either all in the
South, maybe they smell a little more

722
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:04.679
because of the different temperatures, the
humidity and and out the north. It's

723
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.239
not as bad up here and you're
in the higher elevation. So maybe that

724
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.880
that's something. Because that night in
the tent man, I smelled nothing.

725
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:16.840
I smell. All I could smell
that night was you know how the like

726
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:21.239
I said, I was near running
water, that wet smell, you know

727
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:25.719
that misty smell, right, that's
all I smelled that night man. So

728
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.480
but that that got that was very
interesting for what mister Hydcheck said. But

729
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:36.840
you know, when I went on
Alex's show and I started telling them,

730
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:43.679
you know, what was going on
and everything, I've had other stuff happen.

731
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:50.480
A week later on, after all
those knocks happened and I did that

732
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.000
that hike, I'm like, I
gotta get back out there. I have

733
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:59.320
got to get back out there next
weekend. And I went back out into

734
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:04.519
the same wilderness, that same Pemmi
wilderness, and I wanted to do.

735
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.079
You could do the Pemmy Loop,
like I said, it's a thirty one

736
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.360
point five mile total like, or
you could do a semi You could do

737
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:14.679
a semi Pemmy loop. You could
do half of it because there's a trail

738
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.159
that runs all the way up that
thirteen Falls trail is what I took when

739
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:21.519
I saw the moose. You could
keep taking that straight up and you could

740
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:23.679
just cut that Pemmy Loop in half
and you just do half of it.

741
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.800
My goal was to go knock a
couple more mountains that I didn't get.

742
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:30.800
I'm like, I'm gonna knock those
two off. But I'm gonna make my

743
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:36.440
I'm gonna make it worth it and
do a semi pemmy loop. So I'm

744
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.840
my back out there next weekend.
Man, And wow, what was great

745
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:44.679
about this weekend? It was Memorial
Day weekend. Okay, it was the

746
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:50.679
end, you know, And what
was good was that it was the long

747
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.760
weekend. But what sucked is the
weather. The weather I knew the next

748
00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:00.400
day on my day two hike was
going to be sixty percent rain for fifty

749
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.559
mile an hour winds by June.
So by noon, so I knew that

750
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.880
next morning I really had to hustle
to get out of there. So I'm

751
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:15.280
going back down and it's starting to
rain, extremely windy. The good thing

752
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:16.960
was that because the weather was so
bad, there weren't a lot of people

753
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:21.400
out. So, like I said, I love when I have the trail

754
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:27.480
to myself, no matter what's happened, I still love it. We're going

755
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.840
down this thirteen Falls trail again and
it's it's right near where I had the

756
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:35.320
Moves encounter, you know, three
years prior, you know, And I'm

757
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.440
like, oh, this is great. Like I'm going down this corridor of

758
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:45.800
get that that that that tube of
a foliage and when I'm getting to the

759
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.079
end of these heights, it's kind
of when I'll stop. That's when I'll

760
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.079
stop looking around, you know what
I mean. I'll watch my dog.

761
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:57.159
I'll see how what he's looking at, you know, if he kind of

762
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.119
perks up and looks, I'll look
where he's looking, you know, because

763
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.840
I know my dog so well,
right right, and I'll know what he'll

764
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.199
chase and what he won't chase.
So I know if it's anything bigger than

765
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:14.119
it moves, he's not moving.
He's high. He's gonna hide behind dad,

766
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.440
you know. Yeah. So we're
at the tail and then it's raining

767
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:21.559
on and off, and I'm walking
and we're kind of in like this this

768
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:25.360
muddy area, very muddy from the
rain, and there was kind of like

769
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:31.920
a little swampy area and I'm looking
off the embankment and it was just this

770
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:38.159
smoothest peanut butter, like a like
a quick mud. It was a very

771
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:43.639
big area and it was just so
smooth, but there was just weird,

772
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.320
like big circular impression in the middle. Oh that's odd. I'm like,

773
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:52.239
what is that? Because there was
nothing else within twenty feet of it.

774
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:57.800
It was just this perfect like I
said, smooth, smooth as ice.

775
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:00.639
But it's just this biggest, this
big pressure circular impression in the middle,

776
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:04.159
and I'm like wow. I'm like, I'm gonna try to get up and

777
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.519
take a picture with my camera with
my phone. I'm gonna go near the

778
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:12.239
embankment. I'm not going into that
quick mud because if I go into that

779
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.400
quick mud, man, it's like
that lift your boot up, you might

780
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:19.119
lose your boot. Yeah, And
I didn't want my dog. My dog

781
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.440
follows me everywhere. I'm like,
he carries a pack. I don't want

782
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.039
him going into the mud and getting
it all. I keep my video equipment

783
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.519
some of my stuff in his pack
as well, so I can just hurry

784
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.239
up and grab it. Yeah.
So he's off to the side of me,

785
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:36.920
and I got this forty pound pack. Now this is day two.

786
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.760
This is two weeks in a row
of long hikes. I did the Owls

787
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:45.719
had the week beef prior. That
was seventeen point two. Now this one

788
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:49.360
is over twenty miles, but I
went over six peaks, so I am

789
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.199
I am physically exclaust man. Like
I remember at the end of this hike,

790
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.480
even though I'm kind of looking around
for tracks and just looking at like

791
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.960
just being aware of my surroundings,
like I just I am so fatigued,

792
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:06.400
like on this I remember this was
like the worst ending to one of my

793
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:10.960
heights because I am fighting, fighting. Every step is just like ah,

794
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:16.239
And like I said, you're carrying
this big pack and it's just I'm like,

795
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:21.039
I still have another six miles,
you know, at least back onto

796
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.679
the flat. So as I'm going
out to get this, this photo of

797
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:28.719
this, this just it could have
been anything. It could have been like

798
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.800
an animal that fell from a tree
branch and just right into the middle.

799
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.159
You know, it was just around
and I wanted to just try to get

800
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:42.239
a photo of it. Now,
as I'm doing this off to the diagonal,

801
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:49.519
like off to the right, I'm
hearing bipedal footsteps, Like really,

802
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:54.599
that's wild. Oh wow. Now
I'm out in the middle of nowhere.

803
01:02:54.679 --> 01:03:00.000
Yeah, you're way out there.
You're miles away from everyone, six miles

804
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:05.519
away. Now, anyone that's listening
to this right now, I highly suggest

805
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:12.400
go on Google Earth. Put in
Owl's head. Okay, you're gonna see

806
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.360
the Lincoln Brook Trail and the Franconia
Brook Trail, and you're gonna see the

807
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:20.639
Pemmy Wilderness. You're gonna see how
far out I was on this Franconia Brook

808
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:24.599
trail. I am six miles away
from my truck. Okay, the only

809
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:30.199
the closest trail to me was three
miles way off to me to do the

810
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:35.480
Owl's head at least three miles.
So I'm like, who that? The

811
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.559
first thing, I'm like, who
is walking off trail on a day like

812
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:46.920
this in the middle of nowhere.
As I'm hearing this, and I make

813
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:57.599
a movement down to look, it
stops. The steps stop. I look

814
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:02.800
over at my dog to see what
he's doing. Now, Like I said,

815
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:08.840
when Chewie sees an animal, dearro
Loa, he's gonna chase that freaking

816
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:15.880
thing. He is just staring to
the direction I heard the steps, and

817
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:19.320
he's not moving. Man, he
is on high alert and he is not

818
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:26.119
moving. So what I started doing. I have the like these these evergreens

819
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.679
in front of me, and then
there's like there's there's like a nice open

820
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:35.000
area and then more trees scattered.
I'm going like this, I'm rocking looking

821
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:40.960
in between the trees like this seeing
I don't know why I started doing that.

822
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:43.719
I think it was I wanted to
stay quiet. I didn't want to

823
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.000
keep like pittering around. I wanted
to see if I could see what was

824
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:51.800
doing that. Wow, I'm like, that's not a freaking person. Chewie

825
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:56.280
is not a people person. If
he sees a person, he's gonna growl

826
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.800
or he's gonna be like he's not
He's not gonna run up to a human,

827
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.360
you know what I mean. But
he will growl at the person,

828
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:08.039
or someone's going to say, oh, hey, you know, could you

829
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.719
put your dog on leash, or
if it was a human, you know

830
01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:18.000
what I mean, to just stop
and not move anymore. So as all

831
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.519
this is going on, I am
frozen now my dog is off leash.

832
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:29.360
Okay. I want to bring up
this encounter that Evan told me about because

833
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:35.000
through through me telling my story,
Evan reached out because he heard what happened

834
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.519
to me with the vocals, and
he had something similar happened to him with

835
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:43.440
the vocals where he thought it felt
like a cat was purring on his chain,

836
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.880
on his neck. That's how he
built his vibration. So we had

837
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:53.119
me and Evan had that connection and
we and when I came out my story,

838
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:57.199
we have become very close friends talking
for you know how it is when

839
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.400
you talk with your sasquatch buddies,
you could talk totally. And I'm sure

840
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.920
a lot of listeners get that for
sure. Yeah. I've talked to this

841
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:10.719
guy for hours on all the encounters
in New Hampshire that people don't want anyone

842
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.360
else to know a lot because it's
on private land. People don't want to

843
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:19.199
mess with. But he told me
this one. It's on Instagram. I

844
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:30.239
highly recommend anyone that is interested in
this story go to Hampshire Sasquatch on Instagram.

845
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.800
He puts out, he'll put where
the encounter was. He'll have a

846
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:40.800
picture of where the encounter was,
you know, from Google Earth, and

847
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:45.599
he'll have someone illustrate what happened,
you know, like a drawing of what

848
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.239
happened. So he's telling me about
this one that happened on Mount Cabot.

849
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:58.800
Now Mount Cabot is the furthest four
thousand footer, the northernmost four thousand footer

850
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:02.400
in New Hampshire because you have Vermont
and then you have Maine. So when

851
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:06.639
you're up at that peak on Cabot, you're looking at Vermont, You're you're

852
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:12.840
right on the border Okay. Now
this Mount Cabot at the base of this

853
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:17.239
where you park is the New Hampshire
Fishing Game Fish Hatchery where they do all

854
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:21.400
their fish spawning, free food for
wildlife. If you don't, oh yeah,

855
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:26.719
no, that's perfect. Now this
area is thick, so thick of

856
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.360
vegetation. It looks like Vermont.
Now if anyone has not been to Vermont,

857
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:35.280
it's the maple trees galore. Okay, greenest, beautiful, beautiful area.

858
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:40.559
I mean, when you are you
want to see green. If you

859
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:46.119
can't go to Ireland. Vermont it's
gorgeous, especially in the fall. Vermont

860
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:50.000
is gorgeous. For the fall foliage, it's like it's like the forest is

861
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:57.719
on fire with oranges, yellows,
reds. But this woman was doing a

862
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:01.000
mountain hike, a sunset hike up
to the cabin. On Mount Cabin.

863
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:04.639
There's a cabin you can stay in
at the peak. I've never done it,

864
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:09.239
obviously, because what's happened to me. Alex has stayed in that thing

865
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.920
Petacov. He stayed in that overnight
and he said, if you don't mind

866
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:18.520
mice, He's like, it's a
great slitude. It's funny. Yeah,

867
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:23.399
So he's telling me. This woman
goes with her dog, a shepherd,

868
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:27.960
a German shepherd like Chewie, and
off leash, and the dog was ahead

869
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.760
of her. Now she's going up
to this this this cabin to catch the

870
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:36.560
sunset. Now when she notices her
dog stop and look at the tree line

871
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:43.520
and it's growling. The dog is
growling and the tree lin and this woman

872
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.520
is like, you know, trying
to recall her dog. Dog won't move.

873
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:53.920
All of a sudden, this big
creature comes out grabs the dog.

874
01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.880
Now this woman goes in shock,
like fear, her fear. Now her

875
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:05.760
dog is yelping, okay, yelping
with the thing with the creature has the

876
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:12.760
thing in its arms. I hate
telling this story, but it's because of

877
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.960
what happened to us with those footsteps. I gotta tell it. The creature

878
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:24.760
just snaps that dog's neck and walks
off with it. And she called the

879
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:30.279
cops. She called the cops to
tell them what happened. And of course

880
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:31.279
this is what the cops said,
Oh, it was probably a bear.

881
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:38.039
It's probably a bear. I was
like, she told Evan what it was.

882
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:41.279
You know, she's like a sasquatch
came out, grabbed my dog and

883
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:45.359
broke its neck out. She was
hysterical. Okay, when I hear that,

884
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:51.039
because I'm always hiking alone with my
dog, I don't want anything bad

885
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:54.880
happened to my best buddy, you
know what I mean. Like he has

886
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.239
been on every hike with me.
He is with me every day. You

887
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:02.000
know, he's he's like my he's
like my son for crying out loud,

888
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:05.399
you know what I mean. I
don't know anything bad happened to my dog.

889
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:14.520
So when those footsteps stopped when we're
on that trail, I got really

890
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.239
scared. I got I got really
scared. I got scared for my dog.

891
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.479
I was scared for me, but
I was scared. I didn't want

892
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:26.199
anything bad happened to my dog.
So I go like this to the dog.

893
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.159
I didn't want to make a huge
noise because I wanted to I wanted

894
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:32.239
to see if I could see what
was making those footsteps. I'm like.

895
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:39.760
He looks at me and then stares
right back to where we heard that,

896
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:43.640
and I was like, oh my
god, I'm like, something big is

897
01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:45.880
there. Because, like I said, if it was it was an animal,

898
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.920
like I said, I heard the
bipedal. There's a big difference between

899
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:56.800
two steps and a four legged creature. You know there's more. This was

900
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:03.199
it was clearless day, and because
of the rain and it was muddy,

901
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:06.640
you could really hear footsteps pretty good, especially when you're out in the middle

902
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:11.079
of nowhere. It's so quiet out
there. You have none of that ambient

903
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:15.319
now sound, so you could hear
it and clear as day. So I'm

904
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.880
like, oh my god. So
as soon as I saw him look back,

905
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.560
I went right over to him,
man, and I latched him up.

906
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:26.479
I latched him up. I waited. I waited. Now during this

907
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:28.800
whole ordeal, like I said,
this is the end of our hike.

908
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.479
I didn't have my goal pro going. My goal pro was dead. It

909
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:36.479
was raining in that state where I
didn't care. And at the end of

910
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:41.279
the hike it's raining. I feel
like crap my feet, my feet or

911
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:45.800
beat from these two long weekends of
hiking, like I had nothing left in

912
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.680
the tank, nothing left, and
I was like, oh my god.

913
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:54.199
But it was that feeling, and
this has happened to Alex and one of

914
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:58.000
his buddies on one of his hikes. It's that feeling of being watched.

915
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.239
Oh abs, dude, and there's
so much I know exactly what you're talking

916
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:05.680
about, dude, I know,
I don't know. Stands up. Oh

917
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:13.920
yeah. And it's almost like it's
like I felt like pray, like I

918
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.279
think of a bunny rabbit, right, and maybe the big bad wolf is

919
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:25.159
there that instant like that sixth Like
that sixth sense. I think we all

920
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:30.840
we all have them. We all
have that, but we lose because of

921
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:34.039
technology, we kind of lose our
senses, do you know what I mean?

922
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:39.800
We rely too much on certain things. I think personally, I think

923
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:45.279
we lose touch with that. And
a lot of these outdoorsmen, a lot

924
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:46.800
of the people that are out in
the wilderness a lot, I think they

925
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:53.119
kind of their senses get heightened.
So I think of all the hiking we've

926
01:12:53.119 --> 01:13:00.439
been doing for all these years.
I felt like someone was watching me during

927
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:03.279
this whole thing. Like my my
arm hair was raised, I had the

928
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:09.760
goose bumps, my neck hair that
tingling you get that tingling sensation over your

929
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:15.039
body like I am being stalked.
Something is just watching me. It's not

930
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:19.039
moving, it's not moving. And
I told people how thick vegetation is.

931
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.479
Now a lot of people are gonna
say, why did this guy just go

932
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:29.720
and walk in and see what it
was, right, You're gonna understand something

933
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.159
when you're out in the wilderness and
you're alone and you don't have a weapon.

934
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:38.640
My only weapon is a freaking six
inch knife that isn't gonna do much

935
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:41.920
to any big animal and help me
having to get really close you know what

936
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:46.359
I mean. Yeah, comes over
you. It's like a blanket, It

937
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:50.279
just washes over you. I was
scared for me. I was scared for

938
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:56.600
my dog. I don't want anything
bad happening, but that freaking encounter that

939
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:02.920
Evan tells me is in my head
at that moment. I was so scared.

940
01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:06.479
Jeremiah. I'm like, I'm leashing
up the dog and I'm getting hot

941
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.920
of here. Man. It's bad, you know, with all that's happened

942
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:15.359
to me, especially that night in
the tent, Like I want to see

943
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:19.479
it. I want to see it, but I don't want anything ruining my

944
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:26.039
love of the wilderness. I don't
want anything to ruin what I love to

945
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.199
do. I love to go with
my dog and I love to hike.

946
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:33.079
I love to be alone out there
and hike. I don't want anything bad

947
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:40.359
happening, and that that that Mount
Cabot encounter just sticks in my mind on

948
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:43.720
every hike now, when something weird
goes on, I'm like, I don't

949
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:46.800
want nothing happened in the Chewi,
I latched him up, man didn't do

950
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.359
anything with the go Pro. I'm
like, I am not changing the batteries.

951
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:54.680
I am not doing what I did
the week before and say, oh

952
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:56.840
my god, this is this just
happened? You know. I don't want

953
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:00.279
to be that guy that just keeps
puts out stuff but doesn't get anything,

954
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:03.119
you know what I mean. I
don't want to. I don't need to

955
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:06.520
do that. I did it already. I don't need to be like you

956
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:12.800
know, so probably for that ten
to fifteen minutes, man, I just

957
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.920
kept turning and looking behind me as
I'm walking because I just had that feeling

958
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.199
of being watched, you know what
I mean. And I know exactly where

959
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:26.279
it happened, you know, and
I I haven't been back there since this

960
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:30.840
happens. They wanting to go back
out there this year, you know,

961
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:35.279
when Evan wants to go out there
with me. So a little spoiler alert,

962
01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:40.199
I know, Alex, We're going
to be playing a trip up to

963
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:44.840
northern New Hampshire to Coas County,
home of the Wood Devil, man,

964
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.880
Yeah, and we're gonna do it. He'll do it beyond the trail episode

965
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:53.520
on Coos County and then up there, and that's probably the last time I'll

966
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:58.640
tell my encounter, you know,
because I've done an episode. Yeah,

967
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:02.000
that'll be my last a lot.
Because I told my wife today, I'm

968
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.439
like, you know, this is
probably the last live stream I'm gonna do

969
01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:09.960
telling my story. You know,
I've told it enough, like it's out

970
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:15.760
there. But there comes a time
when you know I've said it enough,

971
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.880
you know, like it's it's ran
its course for me, Like I've I

972
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:28.199
finally come because for years, man, after that tent and count I'm like,

973
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.840
man, I'm like, I wish
I could have just opened up that

974
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:34.199
tent and peeked my head out.
But you got to think, like a

975
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:36.520
lot of people probably say, why
did this guy just open the tent after

976
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:42.760
all that happens, Like you don't
when you hear something you don't know what

977
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.319
it is and it's the middle of
the night and you're with your family.

978
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:49.640
I didn't want that thing coming back, man, Like I didn't know what

979
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:54.119
it was. I didn't want to
coming back. But I finally come to

980
01:16:54.239 --> 01:17:00.439
terms with I was so frozen in
fear that night. I don't know,

981
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:06.359
like like like we were just talking
about before with you had Martin Groves on

982
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:14.439
recently yep, And man, I
was listening to it today actually before this

983
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:19.399
episode, and and he's talking about
the vocals and a word for word,

984
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:25.199
it was like I was telling it
like the same exact thing happened to him

985
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.119
and his buddy, and I was
like, oh my god, like the

986
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:32.079
guttural growl he's heard that now.
I don't know how loud it was for

987
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:36.119
him. I would love to talk
to him sometime about that, you know,

988
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:42.159
because we share that connection. And
I love talking to other people that

989
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.640
have had a similar experience to me, because man, I have talked about

990
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:46.960
like six or seven people that I'd
be like, yeah, like I have

991
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:50.239
felt that vocal. Some people have
heard it from like oh it was it

992
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:54.960
was. It was far away,
but it was a stream. For me,

993
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:59.520
it was it was the depth of
it. It wasn't loud, it

994
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:05.159
wasn't out. It was just a
just a breath like a and then into

995
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:10.439
a grunt and then I just want
to but man, it vibrated me.

996
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:15.000
It vibrated my ears, like,
oh my God, like to be able

997
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.199
to share that with someone else who
has had that is just like I still

998
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:23.039
get a rush. When I heard
it, I couldn't believe it. I'm

999
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:25.760
like, oh my god, I'm
about to talk to Jeremiah about this.

1000
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.960
You just you just heard it the
last week. It is very weird.

1001
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:34.880
Yeah it is now I know it. Now I hear it. I'm like,

1002
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:38.800
oh, there's another one. There's
another one who that we share the

1003
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:46.119
same encounter. So now, after
all that, after going on Alex's show,

1004
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:51.840
after having the footsteps, after the
relief of getting out of that area,

1005
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:56.359
because I didn't feel safe, man, until I got back to that

1006
01:18:56.439 --> 01:19:01.399
Franconia Lincoln Brooke and it took me
back onto that logging road that Lincoln Woods.

1007
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:05.520
That that took me to the end, and I was just a sense

1008
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.840
of relief. But it was like, oh my god, I'm like,

1009
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:15.239
this is such a hot zone now
where we are in these ravines. It's

1010
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.119
it's just it's it's brooks that flow
for miles. To me, that's like,

1011
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:25.800
that's that's a wildlife highway. Follow
the water on all these hikes.

1012
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:29.479
I'm going into this, Penny,
You're following the brooks man, You're following

1013
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:35.520
these intersecting brooks all the way for
miles and miles so to to to me,

1014
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:42.720
power lines h like brooks streams.
To me, that's like a that's

1015
01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:47.239
like that's a Sasquatch highway, you
know what I mean. So, after

1016
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:51.920
all this this stuff has happened,
and you know, I've told a couple

1017
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:59.319
of people, and I've made some
new friends about it what me and Evan

1018
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:04.359
wanted to do. Because his encounter, I'll go into it real briefly.

1019
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:09.720
It's a quick encounter, but it's
why we, you know, are friends.

1020
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:15.760
His happened in twenty eighteen, in
November. It was Thanksgiving night twenty

1021
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:26.119
eighteen. He is driving on this
road in central New Hampshire and about I

1022
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:29.279
think it was a month prior,
he had lost his best friend in a

1023
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:32.680
car accident, someone he grew up
with. So he was very depressed,

1024
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:38.880
very emotional, and he said what
he would do at night, he would

1025
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:44.680
just go for these rides on the
back roads of New Hampshire. And this

1026
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:48.439
was a snowy night. He's got
his high beams on a lot of these

1027
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:55.560
roads in New Hampshire are very windy, dirt roads. So as he's coming

1028
01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:03.840
around this bend his lights. He
thought it was reflectors on a tree because

1029
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:09.760
he's coming up on it and he
sees the big amber light reflectors. And

1030
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.199
as he's getting closer, all of
a sudden, he sees an arm go

1031
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:19.680
up over its eyes. He sees
the hair on the tree on the arm,

1032
01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:27.560
and he sees the snow beads on
the hair, what I mean.

1033
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.039
And he pulls up and his high
beams just shine it right on this thing.

1034
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:34.720
He stops his vehicle and the thing
is probably is right front him fifteen

1035
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:39.760
fifteen yards. He saw everything,
I mean, he knew it was a

1036
01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:45.439
male. That's how much he saw. He wore everything and this thing we

1037
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.239
went when we went back to his
to his encounterspot just this last year.

1038
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:57.439
It was about eight feet tall.
Because what's cool about he knew exactly where

1039
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:00.920
his encounter was is when the snowplows
go buy on these roads, they get

1040
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:05.199
so close to the trees they lead
divots from the plow hit the tree.

1041
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:12.760
You know exactly where the spot was
because there's a big divot. So he

1042
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:16.800
said, the creature looked at him
when he stopped. High beams around this

1043
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:23.319
sucker. He's in a little ultima
he's in this small little cottage, right,

1044
01:22:23.399 --> 01:22:28.520
yea, and it could have flipped
my car. He's like, let

1045
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:32.399
it looked at him like with this
look of disgust and let out this puff.

1046
01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:35.760
He probably thought it was probably like
I hear that. I hear that

1047
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:40.039
so many times. You don't even
know, Brian, I hear that same

1048
01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:42.760
exact thing. Sorry to interrupt you, but it's like, oh no,

1049
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:46.039
I've heard it a solid four to
five times, and interviews where it's like

1050
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:50.119
and it's like we heard this,
like this huff, like there was a

1051
01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:55.640
disappointment or like disregard. It's the
weirdest thing that people bring up. Dude.

1052
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:59.439
He said it was like a parent
looking at their child, like yeah,

1053
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:03.880
wrong. That fascinated me. Now. He said he saw the puff

1054
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:08.439
because it was so cold out.
He saw the breath, the puff of

1055
01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:13.239
air come out, and he said
it just turned and walked away, and

1056
01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.199
he was so effed up from that. He was like, oh my god,

1057
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:19.439
I'm like I just saw I just
saw a sasquatch. He drove away,

1058
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:29.000
man, he drove away. But
that like knowing that just the way

1059
01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:31.119
he tells it, his encounter and
how much it like it affects him to

1060
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.199
like he doesn't want to stay out
at night like camping. He can't.

1061
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:39.039
He has to stay in like a
van if he's going to stay out like

1062
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:43.000
it affects It affects a lot of
people. It affected me to where I

1063
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.439
you know, I still can't camp
alone, you know what I mean.

1064
01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:47.479
Until this a couple of weeks ago, I was going to try it.

1065
01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:50.399
Until true, you know, I
was out with Alex. We're going out

1066
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:55.920
and to do an investigation out and
ale it's his hotspot where we started to

1067
01:23:55.960 --> 01:24:00.720
go back to his The first Beyond
the Trail episode was called Granted State Bigfoot

1068
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:08.479
exactly. That is Alex is when
the pandemic was going on, he was

1069
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:12.960
going every day to this spot because
there was nothing else to do. He

1070
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.399
would go out there, shoot guns, do whatever, go out there research

1071
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.079
before we even knew about the guy
that was having all the encounters out there,

1072
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:24.039
and Alex just had some some weird
stuff happen out there as well with

1073
01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:27.960
some knocks. So he's like,
hey man, He's like, you want

1074
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:30.159
to go, you know, let's
go back out to my to that spot

1075
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:34.920
and we'll go do a couple of
investigations. It was actually the night that

1076
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:41.319
we were all on the phone that
night. Oh JESU that night. I

1077
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:46.079
don't listeners are going to have to
just imagine that I'm even bring up Tate.

1078
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:51.640
That's that's sorry, guys. You
have to use your imagination of what

1079
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:58.960
yes for all those from anyone that
knows Tate orymus Yeah, got love Tate,

1080
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:03.279
you got around. You cannot not
like him. You know, he's

1081
01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:09.319
just a great guy. He is
a funny guy. So hot tubs and

1082
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:14.920
PBRs. So we're on. So
we're on that night and wait, I

1083
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:16.399
gotta tell Brian. I'm sorry,
I gotta tell you something. So this

1084
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:24.079
is how much like this lady comes
up to me at Monsterfest and she's like,

1085
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:28.479
oh, I have to tell you, like your show is. I

1086
01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:30.119
love it, keep doing it.
This is amazing. I'm like, oh,

1087
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.479
this is great, thank you so
much. I'm getting his feedback.

1088
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.960
And then at the very end,
this lady says, but what's the deal

1089
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:43.279
with Tate and all the PBRs,
Like that's the funniest thing because like she's

1090
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:47.800
super like like she gets like the
in joke. It somehow went through the

1091
01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:51.680
waves and she latched onto it.
And I'm like, he just really likes

1092
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:58.000
PBRs a lot. That's all I
could say. But let's say we're in

1093
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:03.720
a class, take the class clown
in a good way to a way nothing

1094
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:06.920
but love to take. You know. It's just a great lie. But

1095
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:12.439
that's where we we've we've gone out
a few times and just two weeks ago

1096
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:15.760
he's like, hey, let me
go back to our first overnight out there.

1097
01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:19.760
We're walking the power lines. Okay, we're walking the power lines.

1098
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:26.119
It just rained a couple of days
prior. So we're looking for tracks and

1099
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:29.560
we're we're going through the least path
or resistance. Let's walk those power because

1100
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:34.520
those power lines go through the state
of New Hampshire. It is a highway

1101
01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:38.920
for wildlife. So we're seeing all
these different kind of tracks, you know,

1102
01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:42.600
we're picking up moose tracks here,
you know, anything, deer tracks,

1103
01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:50.479
everything, everything. So we come
across this trackway h three nice tracks,

1104
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:56.760
big pretty big size man. Alex
did a three D scan of it.

1105
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:01.920
Really really intriguing stuff we found that
night. We can't say for sure,

1106
01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:06.840
but the three D scan he did
on the phone that app you have

1107
01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:13.199
with your phone at all to see
the impression down and it's just it's shaped

1108
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:15.359
like it's a it's a someone had
a big foot, you know what I

1109
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:19.720
mean. So we caught three of
them. So like, oh man,

1110
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:23.640
I'm like, we got to go
back out here again and walk in and

1111
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:28.239
stay out of the power lines overnight
with the therms, you know. Sol

1112
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.319
Yeah, yeah, So we had
just planned. It was two thursdays ago,

1113
01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:35.039
two weeks ago. We're like,
yea, hey man, let's go

1114
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:39.199
out there and get them power lines
before I leave for Alaska. I'm like,

1115
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:43.359
let's do it, right, So
we go out. Of course,

1116
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:46.439
I got Chewy because Chewye is our
he is our sixth sense out there,

1117
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:56.359
like Cheue loves Alex and we always
take him on our investigations. A dog

1118
01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:59.880
is a great tool to have because
just because of how they're how well they's

1119
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:04.000
senses are. So five minutes into
our investigation, we're trying to get We're

1120
01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:08.920
walking through the thick stuff to the
power lines, and uh, we see

1121
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:13.800
a couple porcupines scurry up the tree. We're filming the porcupines. Of course,

1122
01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:15.600
Chewy was the one that chased him
up the tree. I have him

1123
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:19.319
off leash. He chased him up
the tree. Dude, I'm like,

1124
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:24.479
let's film this and then I'll latch
up Chewie because there's a lot of porcupines

1125
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:28.239
out. It's for some reason this
year there are a ton of porcupines up

1126
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:30.920
in the northeast. Oh weird.
Yeah, a lot of them this year,

1127
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:36.199
a lot of roadkill just because there's
so many. So I called Chewy.

1128
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:38.800
I'm like, hey, Chewy.
All of a sudden, I hear

1129
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:42.880
I hear him yelp, and I'm
like, oh, no, man,

1130
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:48.680
I'm like, Chewy, here comes
Chewy quills in his nose, quills and

1131
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:53.720
its snow quills in his mouth.
I'm scary. Oh, I'm like,

1132
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:59.600
Chewie just got quilled. So we
drove one hundred miles to go for five

1133
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:03.079
minutes into the power lines and True
gets quoted and take him to the er.

1134
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:06.960
But he's you know, it was
a long night, but he's fine

1135
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:11.359
now. But we didn't get to
walk those power lines yet. So he's

1136
01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:14.600
like, he's like, as soon
as I get back man from Alasto.

1137
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:17.640
So it still has to happen,
okay, Wow, yeah happened. And

1138
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:21.760
that night was the first night I
was going to stay out in a tent

1139
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:26.880
by myself. Wow. So that
was the night I was going to come

1140
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.159
over my fear of going on because
he was going to stay out and do

1141
01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:34.720
a night investigation. Him and his
brother Luca were going to stay out go

1142
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:39.800
home because Alex only lives a half
hour away from his hot spot. And

1143
01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:41.800
I'm like, okay, man,
I'm like, I'm going to stay out

1144
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:44.680
here. So I'm like, I'm
ready, I'm going to try it.

1145
01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:45.720
I got to see if I can
do it. He's like, oh,

1146
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:47.399
what a great idea. He's like
yeah, man, He's like, you

1147
01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:49.800
can say any time you want to
go to my spot and stay, go

1148
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:55.359
ahead. But yeah, I got
ruined that night by the porcupine. So

1149
01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:59.920
after twenty years, I was ready
to face my feear. Wow. Yeah,

1150
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.239
and it just mother. You know. The porcupine didn't want me staying

1151
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:10.720
out that night, so he gave
Chewy some some quills. It's so scary

1152
01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:14.239
when it happens to your to your
dog. Is like people need to I

1153
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:16.680
don't know if everyone realizes how scary
that is for a dog, because it's

1154
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:20.720
like the quills keep going in and
they have to and the vets they have

1155
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:25.600
to pull them out, and it's
really traumatic. It's gotta be dramatic for

1156
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:30.399
the time, and it's expensive.
It's very expensive, totally. It's an

1157
01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:35.760
expensive night. So yeah, but
you know, going back to Evans encounter

1158
01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:41.439
and what happened and after him seeing
it, that's a class that's like,

1159
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:45.439
doesn't get any better than that,
you Knoweah, with the detail he had

1160
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:48.039
and and and being able to go
back there, and I said, well,

1161
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:50.960
hey, Eavan, I'm like,
you don't want man, I'm like,

1162
01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:56.079
let's go to your encounter spot,
okay, and then let's go find

1163
01:30:56.159 --> 01:31:01.279
mine. Because it's been when this
happened nineteen years. I haven't been back

1164
01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:05.560
to that spot man in northern New
Hampshire. Like I've hiked around that area

1165
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:09.640
of course, but I have never
been back to that campsite. For one,

1166
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:15.159
I forgot the name. It took
me so long to find that campsite

1167
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:18.399
and I used girl, I used
the Google Earth to verify and pictures online

1168
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:21.479
off the campsites. I was like, oh my god. Just this past

1169
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:24.359
year, I'm like, oh my
god, guys, I found it,

1170
01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:29.000
like I found it, like,
we have to go back. So the

1171
01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:30.399
plan for me and Evan was,
oh, we'll go to your spot.

1172
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:34.399
I'm going to film you telling your
story and then we can go up to

1173
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:41.920
my spot and you can film me
telling my encounter. So we're like,

1174
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:45.079
hey, man, we'll go your
spot first, Evan, since it's only

1175
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.000
an hour away from where we are. Because mine was way up in northern

1176
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:49.840
New Hampshire and his was in central
New Hampshire, it's a long ride.

1177
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:53.000
It was like a two to three
hour ride for us to go to my

1178
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:58.520
spot across the state and up.
So we go to his spot. Okay.

1179
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.600
I get out of his van,
I got the gold pro going and

1180
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:03.439
I'm like, oh, I'm like, so this is this is where it

1181
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:05.640
happened because you could see the divot
in the tree. He's like, yeah,

1182
01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:09.520
man, it happened right over there. As we're walking up to this,

1183
01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:15.640
we see this weird impression, you
know, true came within I say

1184
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:17.319
two inches a step in right in
the middle of it. I was like,

1185
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.079
oh yeah, man. He's like
I see that too. He stop

1186
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:24.319
looking down. He's like, dude, He's like, that's a track and

1187
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.239
I'm like, oh man, I'm
like, no way, this is five

1188
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:34.039
feet from the tree where he saw
the thing four years ago. I was

1189
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:39.359
like, not saying it's the track
from four years ago, but just saying

1190
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:42.760
it's in the same area where it
hat and I'm like, oh wow,

1191
01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:46.039
I'm like that's interesting. Now I'm
always skeptical at first, I'm like it

1192
01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:50.720
was just a nice foot impression,
Like you could see the impression. I

1193
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:56.079
was like, Oh, that's interesting. Or stop looking behind it. We

1194
01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:01.000
see three more impressions in the leaves, but pressed way down. Oh man,

1195
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:06.880
we're talking sixteen seventeen inches three of
them and we're trying to step down

1196
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:11.239
but we cannot get that depth.
Now, Evan's a big guy. Evans

1197
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:14.479
six's four almost three hundred.
He can wow. Yeah, that's a

1198
01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:19.000
big guy. His foot dwarfed that
foot impression. So like, oh,

1199
01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:23.359
that's interesting. So Evan's like,
hey, He's like, let's go across

1200
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:26.399
the road and see if we find
anymore. You know, we want to

1201
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:29.359
go in the direction where the foot
where the where it was coming from.

1202
01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:32.399
So we had the you know,
like two crappy ones that we couldn't do

1203
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:36.600
anything with because of the leaves,
like it strunched the leaves down, and

1204
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.439
there was just that that foot impression. But the one on the road hard

1205
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:45.800
We're talking a hard dirt road.
It's not like no human can make that

1206
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:50.760
impression. You got to be a
heavy, heavy guy. So like,

1207
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:55.439
all right, let's walk across.
I started to walk across. Now,

1208
01:33:55.640 --> 01:33:58.840
Grant, I still have my GoPro
going. When we find this, Now

1209
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:00.720
there are are f bombs. Well, I sent that one to you.

1210
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:01.920
I sent that to you as well, the link to you. Right,

1211
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:09.800
it's great. What's great about this? You're getting our reaction while it's happening,

1212
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:14.479
Like, it's just incredible. It
was the odd like I'm just so

1213
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:16.079
used to when I get out and
I start hiking, I'm gonna I just

1214
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:23.479
start filming. I see right across
the road, I see this impression going

1215
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:28.520
up the embankment of this dirt embankment
that goes into the woods. I be

1216
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:30.640
lined right to it, and I'm
like, dude. He's like dude.

1217
01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:36.920
I'm like, dude, we had
that dude dude moment. Yeah, not

1218
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:41.159
pulling. There's a couple of leaves
on it. Okay, he pulls leaves

1219
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:45.439
off the top of it. He's
like, I see toes. I lost

1220
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:51.760
it, like like we can see
the toes. WI. It was wild,

1221
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:57.159
dude. It was so wild.
I'm like, now I'm not because

1222
01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:00.800
I am in this state of jubilation, I'm not paying a attention to Chewie.

1223
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.840
He's whining. You'll see it.
You can see it in the video.

1224
01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:09.760
He is yelping and whining like he
doesn't do that. It's not a

1225
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:14.680
normal thing. He sensed something,
whether he could smell whatever, I don't

1226
01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:19.159
but his reaction was just crying and
whining for so long, and I didn't

1227
01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:23.880
pick him on and pick up it
until after when I watched the footage,

1228
01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:27.600
I was like, oh, wow, chew he's acting weird. But we're

1229
01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:30.840
like, we gotta call Alex.
We had haven't had like this three pound

1230
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:36.680
bag of like quick mix classic and
I'm like, dude, I'm like that's

1231
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:42.600
not enough, man, if we
want to get all these So our first

1232
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:45.439
thing is we got to call Alex. We got to call Alex. He'll

1233
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:47.880
know what to do. He'll know
what to do. So we call and

1234
01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:50.239
call and call, no answer.
We're like, he could be anywhere,

1235
01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:56.720
he could be anywhere filming. Yeah, calls back like probably twenty minutes later,

1236
01:35:57.159 --> 01:36:00.119
and we tell him what's going on, and what's great is we have

1237
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:02.600
it all on film. And I'm
like, dude, we found a track,

1238
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:06.039
like we found a passable trackway.
He's like, no way, he's

1239
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:10.920
like, hey, listen, it's
gonna take me two hours to get there

1240
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.640
where you go from where I where
he is to the to the location.

1241
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:16.079
He's like, I want to stop
my home depot. I'm gonna get a

1242
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:19.479
big fifty pounds bag of plaster.
He's like, how wow, two and

1243
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:25.640
a half hours, dude, in
that two and a half hours, Okay,

1244
01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:29.640
it was like a movie. Okay. Now, when we found these

1245
01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:32.960
tracks, no one, no one
drove by, not a person walked by.

1246
01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:38.159
Nothing. We are right, we
are probably probably about two miles three

1247
01:36:38.199 --> 01:36:44.720
miles from the state park, Pawtuckaway
State Park. Pawtuckaway State Park is now

1248
01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:50.319
we know is a hot zone for
activity. So I'm like, you know

1249
01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:54.920
what, Evan, I'm going to
go down because where we found the first

1250
01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:58.279
set of tracks, at the bottom
of the hill, there was a huge

1251
01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:02.680
pond, like a huge, huge
pond. I'm like, I'm gonna see

1252
01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:08.920
if I find any more tracks.
I go down there, I find piles

1253
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:16.479
of turkey feathers, really turkey feathers
ripped, I mean ripped in half piles

1254
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:19.279
here and there. Turkey fan I'm
like, Evan, I'm like, this

1255
01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:24.520
turkey fella is everywhere. Man.
He's like no. I'm like, dude,

1256
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:28.319
I'm like they are everywhere. I'm
like, I'm still rolling. I'm

1257
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:30.439
still rolling with the godpro getting it
all. And I'm like, oh yeah,

1258
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:36.960
man, I'm like something killed something
down here. So I'm looking around

1259
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:41.600
down there for tracks. I didn't
I couldn't find any more tracks because there

1260
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.000
was so much leaf down there.
It was very hard to find tracks.

1261
01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:56.600
But while I'm down there, Evan
yells, truck here comes to this truck

1262
01:37:56.680 --> 01:38:02.760
man backing up with a boat hast
going right towards the track, and like,

1263
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:06.479
what do you do? You're like, I can't, dude, I

1264
01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:11.760
run up. Evan is standing there
like a dick. He isn't moving.

1265
01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:16.039
He's like, these guys are pulling
up on their boat. They had to

1266
01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:19.840
stop. They had to stop because
they weren't going any further. Evan just

1267
01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:24.239
standing there. Man. I run
up, Man, I stand right on

1268
01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:26.680
the side of Evan. I got
chewy, like, I got him so

1269
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:30.199
tight to me so we won't step
on the track. Like yeah, And

1270
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:34.840
these guys are like they're probably looking
at us, like what of these guys

1271
01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:39.920
do? Yeah, they're not moving, like these guys are taking the boat

1272
01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:43.000
off the trailer. It's like a
little like just a little boat. They

1273
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:45.760
could take it to the pond and
do their fishing. We didn't move.

1274
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:50.920
It was to the point where the
boat almost hit me when the dude,

1275
01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:56.439
I'm not moving for you, buddy, like like there almost comes a time

1276
01:38:56.800 --> 01:39:00.399
like are we gonna have to tell
these guys like did you say did you

1277
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:02.720
say, hey, I got a
big like you just didn't even broach it

1278
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:11.159
so close to say, buddy,
we got a potential cessquatch here? Would

1279
01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:15.319
we want even going around? You
know? But we didn't move. We

1280
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:18.800
did not move until the guy we
test, the guy who's like, hey,

1281
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:21.760
when you get into the water,
we have our buddy on a kayak,

1282
01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:25.680
could you let him know that we're
here waiting for him? We wanted

1283
01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:29.880
it was like the only thing we
could think of, Like Evan thought of

1284
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:31.560
that, Like just when you see
our buddy in the pond, did you

1285
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:34.119
tell him that we're up here waiting
for him? We've been here a while,

1286
01:39:34.239 --> 01:39:36.800
like we were just playing dumb,
you know what you want to tell

1287
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:42.159
them? I didn't want to get
that look or like you know, they

1288
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:46.800
didn't want anyone else to know what
we're doing so they got out Ladi dadi

1289
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.159
da. It's been about an hour
and a half. We're still waiting for

1290
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:56.119
Alex Man and we're like God,
the nerves of God, like I the

1291
01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:59.840
adrenaline and the nerves. All of
a sudden, Okay, it comes to

1292
01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:04.840
this guy walking his dog on the
other side with a toe where we got

1293
01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:10.319
the good one on the embankment,
that good track way, just that beautiful

1294
01:40:10.359 --> 01:40:17.199
one with the toe impressions like he's
going right towards it. His dog stots

1295
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:24.840
barking and lunging at my dog.
We are across the road. Here comes

1296
01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:29.479
this dude. He his dog came
within probably two three inches of stepping right

1297
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.880
into the track. It was like
a movie and I couldn't believe what was

1298
01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:38.000
going on all at once, Like
you couldn't write a better script, you

1299
01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:40.960
know what I mean. And that
guy has no idea what's going on.

1300
01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:46.079
And after that we put a backpack
near it, you know what I mean.

1301
01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:53.920
People wait for it. But finally
Alex rolls up and of course Alex,

1302
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:57.079
of course, he was of course
skeptical before he even saw anything,

1303
01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.319
you know what I mean, All
these guys, you know, what are

1304
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:02.279
the odds of the guy's finding this
way. Evan had his encounter and then

1305
01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:06.800
he looks at him and he's like, this is pretty crazy. Man.

1306
01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:10.800
He's like, this is pretty and
it takes a lot to get something like

1307
01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:13.520
that out of Alex. No,
it does, it really does. Yeah.

1308
01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:16.760
Thing about Alex he doesn't have bigfoot
on the brain when he goes out

1309
01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:21.359
there. You know, he's always
skeptical of everything. First, but when

1310
01:41:21.439 --> 01:41:25.920
he stops saying hey man, when
he starts swearing, he's like, this

1311
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:30.199
is pretty interesting man. He's like, this is pretty interesting. Yeah.

1312
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:32.439
But the one on the embankment,
he's like, guys, he's like,

1313
01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:35.840
I don't think I could do this, Like I've never I've never cast it

1314
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:40.520
up on an on an angle like
that. Oh wow. Yeah. He's

1315
01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:45.239
like, you mind if I call
Cliff Barackman, that's give me some pointers.

1316
01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:50.479
Yeah, yeah, you could call
Cliff. Yeah. So here I

1317
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:55.960
am with the go bro right next
to his phone. He calls Cliff.

1318
01:41:56.319 --> 01:41:59.600
Cliff answers, He answers after a
few roots, and he's like, oh,

1319
01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:01.199
hey, sorry to bother you,
man, but I kind of got

1320
01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:05.239
I got a potential trackway here in
New Hampshire. We're trying to you know,

1321
01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:10.439
cast on an embankment and just hearing
Cliff's voice, you know, because

1322
01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:13.720
I was that guy from Finding Big
Fall, and I always loved Cliff and

1323
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:17.079
Bobo, you know what I mean. So to get the pointers from him

1324
01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:21.760
and what to do it was just
oh, what a great experience. Man.

1325
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:28.079
It was just so cool to be
able to cast the tracks. And

1326
01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:32.159
that trackway was the last one we
cast it out of all of them.

1327
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:39.800
Wow. And while Alex is casting
it, he's running out of mix.

1328
01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:44.319
He's running out of mix. He's
got a bow. He still has to

1329
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:50.600
get the toes. I am so
mad. I am glad he showed up,

1330
01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:56.000
but I am so mad that he
didn't mix enough. He starts screeping

1331
01:42:56.039 --> 01:42:58.680
it out with his hands to get
every little bit he could. Man,

1332
01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:01.920
but he ended up getting We ended
up getting the track. We got the

1333
01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:06.399
We got the toes. Alex.
Alex has the cast. He's got it

1334
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:10.640
nice set up in his house and
a nice glass case. It's just a

1335
01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:15.000
nice momente to everything that happened.
And he's like, hey, guys,

1336
01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:18.720
He's like, would you guys want
to come back up here, like in

1337
01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:24.520
a week or two and do an
investigation. I'm like yeah, man,

1338
01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:30.199
like definitely, and that led into
doing it beyond the trail episode on the

1339
01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:34.520
track way and it was so fun
having Eli come down and and uh,

1340
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:41.359
Carick sat Laura. It came down
so nice. He's a really cool guy

1341
01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:45.479
man. And we had we you
know, it rains, you know,

1342
01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:48.840
during it rained both days we did
our investigation, but we had the night

1343
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:54.000
time to where it didn't rain.
It got to go out and we had

1344
01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:59.880
some stuff going on. But we're
thinking it, like we heard of bloops

1345
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:03.359
flash, like very loud bloops splash, and it was just, you know,

1346
01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:06.800
we come to the fact that it
was probably beavertail. It was probably

1347
01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:12.760
Beaver's doing that. But what happened
on that second night, it was probably

1348
01:44:12.760 --> 01:44:16.600
two two thirty in the morning,
Evan and Eli were by themselves on the

1349
01:44:16.640 --> 01:44:23.039
power lines and we were over by
the Uh there's a side trail you can

1350
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:26.239
go down and you can parallel each
other one on the you know, we

1351
01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:30.039
got one group there and another group
here and seeing if we can either flush

1352
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:35.239
anything out or whatever. And uh
on the walkie talkie they're like, you

1353
01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:40.439
guys. Evan and Eli are like, are you guys over near the entrance

1354
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:46.319
because we're seeing a light. They
were like, no, man, we're

1355
01:44:46.359 --> 01:44:49.479
way down. We're way down,
man, none of us have lights on.

1356
01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:56.039
He's like they saw like a possible
orb. Like they had something fun

1357
01:44:56.039 --> 01:45:00.960
to to where Eli, they were
trying to recreate it with the flashlights.

1358
01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:03.960
We all met up after that,
we're trying to recreate with and like no,

1359
01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:09.359
like, that's not it, man. So something weird happened that those

1360
01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:14.640
guys Evan and Eli saw that.
They they can't explain it, but they're

1361
01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:18.920
like, yeah, it was like
this white light floating across and went behind

1362
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:23.760
the there was this sign. It
was the sign to the entry of the

1363
01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:27.399
trail, and they're like and then
it was gone. I was like,

1364
01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:30.159
oh, wow, that's that's interesting
because I wasn't a big orb guy,

1365
01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:32.720
you know what I mean. But
you hear a lot of stories with people

1366
01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:38.039
seeing orbs in the woods sometimes,
so they saw something odd. They talked

1367
01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:41.399
about it a little on the documentary, but there was nothing we could recreate.

1368
01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:45.159
But it was just it's just a
very interesting area. And you know,

1369
01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:48.399
like I said, that way we
found that trackway a half mile down

1370
01:45:48.399 --> 01:45:55.199
the road was the power lines those
dons that run from miles and that thing,

1371
01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:59.119
that that direction, the prints at
that where it was going. You

1372
01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:02.800
go through the woods, and then
a little bit after those woods you come

1373
01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:06.520
up onto the power lines. So
like, oh wow, like what a

1374
01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:11.600
great area. But man, what
it was such a great experience, you

1375
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:14.439
know what I mean. To be
able to go out with those guys and

1376
01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:18.199
and see how they do their things, that kind of thing is really cool.

1377
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:23.920
I learned so much from Alex every
time we go out, like he's

1378
01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:27.520
like, oh, these are where
porcupines burrow, And sure enough we go

1379
01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:30.439
up to this spot and there's a
bunch of porcupine scot and I'm like,

1380
01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:33.239
oh my, Like every time I'm
with that guy, like I always learned

1381
01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:39.199
something. So it's it's it's he
is such a very down to earth,

1382
01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:43.720
just a nice I have never met
a nicer person than Alex Petakov. I

1383
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:48.640
can't like what you see on film
is how he is all the time.

1384
01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:54.479
Yeah, it's it's the same thing. Like people need to realize that it's

1385
01:46:54.520 --> 01:47:01.039
it's not a it's not a fake
thing like that. He what you get,

1386
01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:04.000
what you get with him. He
is the same all the time.

1387
01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:06.920
Such a nice, nice guy.
Yeah, what a nice what a nice

1388
01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:11.199
guy? But yeah, man,
that was that was you know, that's

1389
01:47:11.239 --> 01:47:14.560
that's what's happened to me out there
though, with the Knox and and those

1390
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:20.520
those footsteps. That's that's wild.
I have. There's one question I have

1391
01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:29.000
about the initial tent situation. And
I know this is this is like twenty

1392
01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:33.039
years ago or more right, it's
a long time ago. But the one

1393
01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:39.079
thing that I kept coming to mind
when you were telling me that is,

1394
01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:45.159
so you're inside the tent and you
can see something running, you know,

1395
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.600
across the nylon. Right. Yes, at first I heard, I'm like,

1396
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.640
what is that? Now? This
is second? Now, like I

1397
01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:56.239
said, we were in a big
tent, so it had to go across

1398
01:47:56.279 --> 01:48:00.359
far because like I'm saying, three
of us fit on one half of the

1399
01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:02.479
tent and the other half was like
all our clothes, all our stuff,

1400
01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.640
you know what I mean. So
I had enough time to hear it,

1401
01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:12.520
and then I picked up the impression. Now you see me going like like

1402
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:15.800
this all the time. I'm telling
it, right, That's what I saw.

1403
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:20.399
Is So that's that's the question I
had is did you see actual fingers?

1404
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:27.359
Yes? I saw my case press
fingers. How big? I mean,

1405
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.279
this is what got me because like
I said, at first, I

1406
01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:36.760
thought it was a person because I
saw the finger impressions. It's when everything

1407
01:48:38.039 --> 01:48:42.119
changed. Wow, at the end
of the tent. It didn't growl,

1408
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:47.239
it didn't take the breath and growl
and grunt untill after the impression went across.

1409
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:50.640
It was about eight feet away when
I felt that grunt. Okay,

1410
01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:57.960
eight to ten feet away from going
from my right to left, and then

1411
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.640
it was my girlfriend and my son
the outside of the tent. The direction

1412
01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:05.479
it was going, that's what scared
me. I didn't want it coming back

1413
01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:10.399
to my son's side of the tent. Yeah. I laid there still.

1414
01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:16.199
I don't know how long it was
till I actually freaking moved. But my

1415
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:20.720
first movement was looking to my left
and seeing if it woke up my girlfriend

1416
01:49:21.039 --> 01:49:25.159
and she's sound asleep, and I
was like oh, And I waited,

1417
01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:30.199
dude. I laid there and waited, hands like this dude pillow over my

1418
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:35.920
head and I waited to hear if
I would hear anything else, because I

1419
01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:41.640
didn't know, like take sasquatch out
of the realm, I didn't know what

1420
01:49:41.720 --> 01:49:45.319
it was. So I've come,
like I was saying before, I have

1421
01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:50.760
Finally, after years of fighting myself
saying Brian, like, dude, why

1422
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:57.199
couldn't you open that tent? I
was so afraid. I couldn't freaking move,

1423
01:49:57.359 --> 01:50:03.359
man, I physically couldn't move after
that grunt, because it's something I

1424
01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:08.159
have never heard. Besides, if
you go to the circus and you're close

1425
01:50:08.199 --> 01:50:11.399
to a lion and you can hear
you can you know they give off like

1426
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:17.079
that vibration exactly, no lions in
the nor no lions up there going yeah.

1427
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:19.960
Yeah, it was the digits.
That's why when I said bear at

1428
01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:21.239
first, I'm like, no,
no, no, no, no,

1429
01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:27.119
I'm like a ripped through my tent. A bear is not going to go

1430
01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:30.960
up on a time likes miss the
you have a cover on your tent and

1431
01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:35.439
your strings come out into the ground. Miss those have the intelligence to miss

1432
01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:44.119
those. Okay, wow, that's
that's wild. So you can see the

1433
01:50:44.159 --> 01:50:49.319
actual fingers you could probably could you
tell like how big the yeah handish was?

1434
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:54.159
Yes, yes, because it was
so fat. They were so fat

1435
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:57.920
like the Impress. And it wasn't
like it was grazing gently man, right,

1436
01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:04.000
Okay, it was like pressing and
wow, that's across. I'm not

1437
01:51:04.039 --> 01:51:10.640
gonna say violently but aggressively, very
aggressive to where it scared me. I'm

1438
01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:14.399
up on my elbows watching that soccer
go across a want to get up,

1439
01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:19.279
get up, and it's think I'm
thinking of the noises I was gonna have

1440
01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:24.479
to make to get out of my
sleeping bag with the zippers. Yeah,

1441
01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:29.960
then to unzip that big dome freaking
pop my head out into the pitch.

1442
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:33.239
Black man, No way, no
dude, Yeah I would It would have

1443
01:51:33.239 --> 01:51:36.119
been saying, I mean I would
have made the same call like there's there's

1444
01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:41.880
no way, like and there's no
way I would have been able to do

1445
01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:45.439
that. Here's another thing, and
I and I talked about this with you

1446
01:51:45.479 --> 01:51:48.039
know, I've heard a guy that
it took him fifty five years. Two.

1447
01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:54.479
This guy's seventy two, Okay,
took him fifty five years. And

1448
01:51:55.239 --> 01:52:00.560
I what I share with him is
that it felt like it just happenedyesterday.

1449
01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:03.119
When you said, oh, it's
been twenty years. I don't know if

1450
01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:10.680
you'll I can remember it like it
just happens, wow, like it's it

1451
01:52:10.920 --> 01:52:16.279
never leaves you. So in a
way, I feel like I'm cursed,

1452
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:23.039
but I also feel lucky because that
doesn't happen to a lot of people,

1453
01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:29.720
but that those years of not knowing, but to be able to tell my

1454
01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:32.560
story like it just happened yesterday.
Man, it is so fresh in my

1455
01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:39.520
brain. It's never gonna leave me
never, Like I will never forget that

1456
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:43.680
night. I will never forget it. It's something that you know, I've

1457
01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:48.640
shared it enough, but man,
yeah, my memory is as clear as

1458
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:55.359
day when it comes to that night, man, and it's it's it's it's

1459
01:52:55.399 --> 01:53:01.199
definitely. Uh, it's definitely an
experience. And that's that's in that whole,

1460
01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:05.000
that whole I mean, it's a
whole adventure, your whole story.

1461
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:12.199
And I think for sharing is amazing. Man, thank you for sharing all

1462
01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:23.159
that. I would highly recommend people
listeners to subscribe to Brian's channel so that

1463
01:53:23.199 --> 01:53:28.279
you can follow along with everything he's
posting. And there's some really cool stuff

1464
01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:30.359
on. There's going to be plenty
of links in the show notes. But

1465
01:53:30.920 --> 01:53:39.159
do you mind spending a few minutes, Brian to share just any way that

1466
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:44.039
people can keep up to date with
what you're doing. I post all my

1467
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:48.520
hikes, all my investigations. I've
just posted. I think the last two

1468
01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:54.479
months, all I've been doing is
going on investigations with Alex and stuff,

1469
01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:58.439
but I posted them. We've gone
to the Freetown State Forest. That's a

1470
01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:01.319
whole nother episode. Man. I
lived fifteen minutes from there. I am

1471
01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:09.520
fifteen minutes from the Freetown State Forest, so I took I've gone in there

1472
01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:14.199
with Alex three times. We've taken
a guy that wanted to, you know,

1473
01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:18.279
because there's a lot of right it's
a melting pot of everything in the

1474
01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:25.079
Freetown State Forest, from murders,
colts, ghosts, anything you are into,

1475
01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:29.479
sasquatch encounters. It is. That's
part of the Bridgewater Triangle. Absolutely,

1476
01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:31.960
So that is a whole other episode. Man. It ra really is.

1477
01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:36.039
I mean that is That's some wild
wild stuff, dude. Wow.

1478
01:54:36.880 --> 01:54:41.000
But what's great about that is we
go to all these famous locations and I

1479
01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:43.600
have it all on my channel.
But my channel is Brian and Chewie go

1480
01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.000
hiking. That's all it is.
And I'm a small channel. I'm not

1481
01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:49.560
I don't promote my channel. You
know. I started my channel with my

1482
01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:54.600
dad. We know from my dad. My dad lived in Arizona. He

1483
01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:58.199
was a hiker. I lived over
here. I'm a hiker. I would

1484
01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:00.960
share my videos so he could see
that. That's really cool. Yeah,

1485
01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:05.600
that was my whole you know,
that was my whole start to this YouTube

1486
01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:09.600
thing, so I could share my
stories with my dad. Little did I

1487
01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:12.920
know, you know, other people
like watching you know, hikes and getting

1488
01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:16.159
information on mountains and hikes, and
that's that's mostly what I do. But

1489
01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:21.239
I lately I have been putting the
investigations in there and it's pretty cool.

1490
01:55:21.279 --> 01:55:27.560
I enjoy doing it, and I
enjoy sharing where these locations are, just

1491
01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:31.479
so people can see what you're talking
about, because that's the most important thing

1492
01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:36.159
to me. I want these people
to go on Google Earth after this episode

1493
01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.319
look up where I've been talking about, and you're gonna be like, oh

1494
01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:45.920
wow, that's a forest and there's
no cars going in there. There's no

1495
01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:49.720
roads. So that's where these suck
to me, in my opinion, in

1496
01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:53.960
these deep areas in the whites,
these are where these things are hiding,

1497
01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:59.479
is where people don't go because,
like we were saying, you go off

1498
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:02.800
trail a little bit and you lose
your way nine times out of ten,

1499
01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:05.680
you're not going to find your way
out. Oh no, you're not.

1500
01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:11.600
You're not, dude. So yeah, that's in my opinion, that's where

1501
01:56:11.600 --> 01:56:15.119
these soccers are is where people aren't
going to go much, and that's where

1502
01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:19.960
I want to try and go.
But I'm not going alone. So hopefully,

1503
01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:24.000
uh next, next, beyond the
trail, at the end of the

1504
01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:26.760
summer, you guys will see us
going up to Northern New Hampshire. And

1505
01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:32.520
I can't wait for that one because
we used to go up to Colebrook and

1506
01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:36.800
Pittsburgh and all that good stuff.
Northern newamp Northern New beautiful. But I

1507
01:56:36.840 --> 01:56:42.039
can't wait to see what you guys
find out there the Dicksville notch Ah.

1508
01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:46.119
You'll see a moose. We saw
seven moose on one of our me and

1509
01:56:46.119 --> 01:56:51.399
Evan went on excursion to do an
investigation. Wait, I got a quick

1510
01:56:51.439 --> 01:56:55.680
story if we got time. We
got a little bit of time, so

1511
01:56:56.680 --> 01:57:00.239
I got how about this, Let's
let's finish, finish the episode, and

1512
01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:05.640
then I can tell you I've got
moose stories and you've got moose stories,

1513
01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:12.479
and we'll do like a patriot,
let's do that. I have you have

1514
01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:15.159
the time, so I have I
have the time. Let's let's close it

1515
01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:18.760
out really okay, So all right, Brian, thank you for for chilling

1516
01:57:18.840 --> 01:57:25.800
out. Yes, I'm sorry to
interrupt you. I just want to thank

1517
01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:33.560
you, okay, because people like
me that have had a hard time talking

1518
01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:40.640
about it, they're just the average
Joe. What you do with this platform?

1519
01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:45.000
I like it. It's so much
appreciated. Thank you people that have

1520
01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:49.560
had encounters and are afraid to talk
about it or just are afraid to step

1521
01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:58.000
forward. This platform is a great
platform to let people like us tell what's

1522
01:57:58.039 --> 01:58:01.680
happened and not get that look,
not get that look like, oh look

1523
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:04.840
at like that nut, Like,
oh, this guy's a nut. You

1524
01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:09.560
know what I mean, Like you've
heard enough of it. The listeners have

1525
01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:15.239
heard enough that they know that.
You know, I'm just telling you what's

1526
01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:18.920
happened to me on my hikes and
in the areas I have gone to that

1527
01:58:19.279 --> 01:58:26.439
that are hot zones. So and
for me bringing awareness to the Northeast,

1528
01:58:26.479 --> 01:58:30.920
because you don't hear a lot about
the Northeast much, Oh you don't.

1529
01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:33.720
People don't really chat about it.
So I super appreciate it because that is

1530
01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:39.520
the main focus of my channel now, is to give people a platform to

1531
01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:44.439
share their encounters where they haven't been
able to share because they've been maybe afraid

1532
01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:48.640
or not empowered. And so then
other people hear that, and then they

1533
01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:56.279
are able to connect dots in their
heads or in their head or have the

1534
01:58:56.319 --> 01:59:00.680
courage then to come forward. But
can you speak to the listener for a

1535
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:04.039
moment, like imagine you're speaking to
a person that has had something happen they

1536
01:59:04.039 --> 01:59:09.560
haven't come forward yet, And why
is it a good idea to, you

1537
01:59:09.560 --> 01:59:13.800
know, contact someone like me,
and just what does that do to you

1538
01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.840
as a person? You know why? For me and I'm sure for some

1539
01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:20.800
other people. Some people hold on
to this for a long time and it

1540
01:59:20.920 --> 01:59:26.960
and like I said, it is
a heavy weight to carry on your shoulders

1541
01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:31.760
if you don't know what's going on
and you're looking for answers and you come

1542
01:59:31.800 --> 01:59:38.199
to a platform like this and you're
hearing similar stuff. The best thing for

1543
01:59:38.319 --> 01:59:45.119
me was telling my story because that
weight came off of me and to get

1544
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:51.199
that positive feedback. And I'm calling
it like a family, you get to

1545
01:59:51.399 --> 02:00:00.279
like you can trust people that you're
telling your story too. On this platform.

1546
02:00:00.479 --> 02:00:04.359
It's just I highly recommend anyone that
has had an encounter and it's having

1547
02:00:04.359 --> 02:00:10.680
a hard time telling anyone, this
is one of the safe places to tell

1548
02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:15.359
it and you will feel much better
getting that off your shoulders because for me,

1549
02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:21.159
I had it for eighteen years,
carried that to myself and I am

1550
02:00:21.239 --> 02:00:27.000
so glad I did because I don't
know where i'd be if I didn't,

1551
02:00:27.239 --> 02:00:32.640
you know what I mean. And
I feel so much better hearing similar encounters

1552
02:00:33.079 --> 02:00:40.199
and just you get that validation when
you hear something similar and you're like,

1553
02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:45.439
yeah, I wasn't imagining that,
like it happens to other people. So

1554
02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:48.199
yeah, the best thing to do
is to share your story and a safe

1555
02:00:48.319 --> 02:00:54.560
platform, you know, yes,
exactly. Thank you, Brian. And

1556
02:00:55.000 --> 02:00:58.279
if you want to contact me directly, listeners, you can send me an

1557
02:00:58.279 --> 02:01:00.920
email big for Society at Gmail.
That is the easiest way to do that.

1558
02:01:01.079 --> 02:01:05.600
But Brian, thank you so much
for hanging out. Please take a

1559
02:01:05.640 --> 02:01:11.800
minute to help out the show by
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1560
02:01:11.840 --> 02:01:15.239
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1561
02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:19.239
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1562
02:01:19.600 --> 02:01:24.680
thank you so much. Make sure
that you're subscribed, share the show with

1563
02:01:24.760 --> 02:01:29.000
a friend. Really, it's all
about sharing the show wherever you can.

1564
02:01:29.319 --> 02:01:32.359
If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related
to the following, or know someone who

1565
02:01:32.479 --> 02:01:39.520
has please reach out to me at
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass

1566
02:01:39.560 --> 02:01:42.920
on my email. Here's the list. All right, I'm going to use

1567
02:01:42.920 --> 02:01:46.279
this space this week to announce that
I'll be at the Sasquatch Summer Fest and

1568
02:01:46.359 --> 02:01:51.119
Oakridge organ as an atender. I
won't be presenting or anything, but I'll

1569
02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:56.880
be hanging out trying to interview people
that have had bigfoot encounters. If you're

1570
02:01:56.920 --> 02:02:00.279
from the Oakridge, Oregon area or
surrounding and you've had a bigfoot experience,

1571
02:02:00.319 --> 02:02:04.760
please contact me directly Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com. Also, Priscilla was

1572
02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:09.960
nice enough that if you get your
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1573
02:02:10.039 --> 02:02:14.560
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1574
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1575
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1576
02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:30.039
A special thank you to all the
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1577
02:02:30.079 --> 02:02:33.439
It's your support that helps keep the
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1578
02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:38.800
Here at big for Society, We're
headed to the moon and here's a current

1579
02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:43.680
update about going full time, So
here we go. As of five twenty

1580
02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:46.920
two, you're now at two hundred
and two patroons out of eight hundred and

1581
02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:51.920
twenty four needed. That's twenty four
point five to one percent, almost a

1582
02:02:53.039 --> 02:02:56.479
quarter of the way there, guys, brings us down to six hundred and

1583
02:02:56.520 --> 02:03:00.560
twenty two left to join the Patreon
So a huge thank you to Barbara,

1584
02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:04.840
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1585
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1586
02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:14.439
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Bobby, Joe, and Inger for

1587
02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:19.079
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1588
02:03:19.119 --> 02:03:24.039
over at patreon dot com. Forward
slash the big Foot Society. I'll see

1589
02:03:24.039 --> 02:04:16.960
you there and again thanks for listening. Her and I can get out of

1590
02:04:16.960 --> 02:04:20.399
here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening

1591
02:04:20.720 --> 02:04:25.640
it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage

1592
02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:29.520
to come out. And I feel
so bad about it. Who cares what

1593
02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:31.920
anybody's thinks. I know what I
saw, I know what's out there.

1594
02:04:32.840 --> 02:04:54.239
That's all I care. Please let
people know, Please let them know,

1595
02:04:54.479 --> 02:04:59.000
if you ever see one of these
things, you need to tell because if

1596
02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:17.159
you don't, shame on you,
you know, shame on you. M

1597
02:05:25.960 --> 02:05:54.720
m m wait there's more. Monster
Fest two is coming up soon and Beautiful

1598
02:05:54.800 --> 02:05:58.800
can't Ohio and I will be there
doing a live podcast. If you've ever

1599
02:05:58.840 --> 02:06:02.479
wanted to meet Big Fist aside in
person, this is the year to do

1600
02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:09.800
it. My special guest in the
live podcast episode will be Justin from Cryptids

1601
02:06:09.840 --> 02:06:14.680
of the Corn. You will not
want to miss this live episode and then

1602
02:06:15.079 --> 02:06:19.239
you can hang out with me at
Monsterfest. You can go to Smalltown Monsters

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dot com to get your tickets.
Pre sale tickets are twenty dollars fifty cents

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and tickets at the door will be
twenty five dollars. But kids twelve and

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under are free. How many places
can you go to where kids twelve and

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under are free? Not many.
New this year are the live workshops.

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I'm excited about this, extremely excited. How to cast a footprint, how

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to collect DNA in the woods,
ghost hunting tools one oh one, how

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to do research. Also, there's
going to be food trucks outside this year

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and new guests, new speakers,
people you won't I mean, the coolest

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thing about last year is that I
got to meet people I was not expecting

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to be there, people like less
Odell John Hickinbottom, really cool, big

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people that I never would have thought
that I would have met before. And

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Seth Breedlove made it happen by making
this incredible place for the community to get

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together. Monsterfest in kant Ohio June
twenty eighth through twenty ninth. Guys,

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do not miss this year. If
you missed last year, don't miss this

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year. Head on over right now
to Smalltown Monsters dot com. I hope

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to see you there.