April 5, 2026

My Uncle Shot a Bigfoot… and It Didn’t Die

My Uncle Shot a Bigfoot… and It Didn’t Die
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary experiences of Scott from southern Ohio, whose life has been shaped by encounters that stretch across generations. Growing up with stories from his grandfather about a terrifying creature in the woods of Clay County, West Virginia, Scott shares how those early accounts set the foundation for everything that followed. From a close-range encounter where a family member came face to face with a massive being in rural Ohio, to the deeply unsettling events he experienced as a child in the remote hills of eastern Kentucky, a pattern begins to take shape.


Living part of his childhood along the Kentucky River, Scott describes a place where strange activity was treated as part of everyday life. Animals disappeared without a trace, food was left out and taken overnight, and something large moved through the hollers after dark. Known by a name passed quietly through his family—“the cowker”—this presence carried a reputation that kept people inside once night fell.


As Scott grew older, the experiences didn’t stay in the past. From unexplained activity near a cabin in Tennessee to ongoing encounters in Adams County, Ohio, including movement in the woods, vocalizations, and moments that defy easy explanation, the same feeling followed him into adulthood. Along the way, he connects with others who have seen similar things, reinforcing that these events are not isolated.


Scott’s account offers a grounded, firsthand look at what happens when multiple generations encounter something they cannot explain, yet never forget.

Contact Scott: Scottmusicc@gmail.com


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You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,

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all right, thanks for coming back to another episode of

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the Bigfoot Society podcast. We've got listeners Scott who reached

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out to me wanting to share some interesting things that

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have happened to him over the years and to some

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of his family members as well, I believe, And so

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we'll be focusing on the Kentucky and Ohio area.

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But welcome to the show, Scott. How are you doing, sir?

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I'm doing very well.

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Thank you for having me awesome.

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Is there anything else contexts wise that the listeners would

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want to know about you before we get going today?

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Oh? Well, I am forty six years old. I currently

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live in southern Ohio, about thirty miles east of Cincinnati,

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a small town that I grew up and lived in

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my entire life. And I'm married with three children and

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three dogs.

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There you go, that sounds like a full house. That's great,

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good stuff. So, you know, Scott, feel free to take

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us back to when you started realizing you were having

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some stuff going on that was out of the ordinary.

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Okay, Well, I had a very unusual childhood. My grandfather

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would tell me stories from a very young age. We

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lived just next door in the house that I was born.

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This would be my dad's dad, and he was born

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in nineteen oh seven in Clay County, West virgin And

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one of the very first stories he would tell me

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was about his first encounter. He was working in Clay County,

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West Virginia, and this would have been back probably in

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the early thirties, and he was cutting railroad ties. He

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worked for a company cutting railroad ties. And he said,

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one morning, they got up, they went out, they went

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to the job site, they started getting ready for work,

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and they heard this horrible scream, you know, guttural, real

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low scream that went up into a real high pitch,

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and the bushes started shaking, and the way he describes

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it is that a eight to eight and a half

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foot tall, hairy, human looking creature stepped out and screamed

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again at them, and they dropped everything and took off

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and ran back to get the rest of the crew.

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When they returned, they found eighteen inch footprints in the mud,

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and he described it as having a horrible smell, very

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much muscular, dark brown in collar, human like features. One

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of the things that really caught my attention to these

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stories growing up from my grandfather was that he never

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ever called it bigfoot or sasquatch. He always called it

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a demon. I don't know why I never He was

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a very religious man, so I assumed that might have

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something to do with it. He did also subsequently, after

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having that encounter, he took his entire family at the

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time and moved them from West Virginia to Ohio because

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he was so frightened of what he saw. It changed

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his entire life. So growing up, that was one of

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the stories that I would sit on my grandfather's lap

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and that's what he would tell me. Right. So, I

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was born in seventy nine, Go ahead.

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Sorry, what was your grandfather's emotional state when he would

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tell you that story, Like, how would he act emotionally?

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So he always had a very serious look when he

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would tell me. It wasn't a joke, it wasn't a story.

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It wasn't like him telling me a story of him

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doing something else when he was younger. It was always

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a very serious story, and I think he wanted to

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convey that right. He wanted me to know that this

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is real, this is something I'm telling you. I'm not

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just trying to scare you or trying to tell a story.

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He always seemed very not emotional, because he wasn't really

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an emotional kind of man. But you could tell like

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he was unnerved whenever he would tell the story.

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That's fascinating. I can't imagine how emotionally shook up he

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would have had to been to move everything to a

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different state. I mean, woo, that is that's a really

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really intense detail.

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Did he ever say if.

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The scream he had heard, if it reminded him of

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anything else?

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Ever?

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No, he just described as something almost unearthly. He's he

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grew up there, you know, he'd been in the woods

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and everything his entire life. He said he never heard

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anything like it before. It's all you.

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Would say, gotcha.

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So then you are then because of your grandfather moving

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due to his big foot encounter. That's why then you

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are in Ohio pretty much correct. Wow, So I've never

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I mean, man, I've never heard a bigfoot encounter affecting

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a family trees, his family's history like that.

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That's wild.

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So how did that affect you as a younger child

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hearing that story.

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Well, I immediately fell in love with the idea of,

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you know, bigfoot monsters. I had an aunt that also

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lived there with my grandfather. Her and I are only

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thirteen years apart. She's the youngest of his children. She

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was basically my first best friend, my first babysitter, and

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she also, because of Grandpa's stories, fell in love with bigfoot.

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So we were always when I was a kid, she

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was always showing me stuff. I was always checking out

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the books, watching in search of legend of Boggie Creek,

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you know, all the tale tales of you know, kind

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of that fascination as a kid. So that wasn't the

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only story that my grandfather would tell me. So in

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the early well probably mid seventies, we've determined it down

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to between seventy five and seventy seven. While living in Ohio,

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my uncle came to visit and he was an avid

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hunter then, all over the country hunting and you know, deer, elk, bear,

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all kinds of stuff, and it was kind of tradition

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that when he came into town that him and my

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grandfather would go hunting of some kind. Usually it was

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squirrel hunting because it involved you know, my grandfather wasn't

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much of a hunter, so he would just kind of

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do it to, you know, spend time with my uncle

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and grandfather. My grandfather would tell me the story where

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him and my uncle went to a wildlife reserve, which

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is not far from where we live, about twenty miles

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south of where I actually live now, and they went

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to a wildlife reserve to go hunting. They said it

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was a very strange morning. They got out of the truck.

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It was super quiet. My grandfather had always described it

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as you could hear an acorn drop in the woods.

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I thought it was very odd. And the story he

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would tell me is that they split off. They both

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went in opposite, you know, kind of opposite directions to

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go squirrel hunting, like they would any other time, nothing

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out of the ordinary, And as they separated it had

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been you know, probably twenty thirty minutes. All of a sudden,

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he heard gunshots. My uncle always carried a side arm

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in addition to the four tens that they were using

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for squirrel hunting, and he said he heard the four

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ten go off in every single round in the handgun,

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and he just heard boom boom boom boom, boom, boom boom.

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So he takes off running in the direction to my

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uncle and he runs into my uncle, who's just white

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as a ghost, I mean, just white is a ghost, terrified,

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and he keeps screaming, I shot a monster. I shot

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a monster. And so my grandfather takes him back. He's like, well,

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come show me if you shot something, if it's bleeding,

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if it's injured, we need to check it out. Show

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me what's going on, trying to calm him down. Gets

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him back to the spot, and there's this giant down tree,

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this log, and just on the other side of the

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log was all the grass and all the weeds were

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all matted down. He said it was bigger than a

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cow had been laying there. That's how he described it.

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And my uncle Jess said, he said, I was coming

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up to the log. I thought I'd climb up on

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the log, maybe take a sit and sit here and

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listen for squirrels. I guess when he climbed up on

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the log, he kind of slipped a little bit and

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didn't you know, wasn't looking, wasn't paying attention. He slipped

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a little bit. And when he stood up on the log,

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and it was the way they described it was about

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a three foot high log, about two and a half

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three feet. He said something stood up behind the log

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and looked him basically nose to nose, and he said

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he could feel its breath like a horse like, right

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up on him. And he shot and fell off the

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log and rolled a bit, jumped up and took off

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and ran back to my grandfather and that's when they met.

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He described it as a bigfoot. He always used the

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word bigfoot. He said that it was. He was six

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foot two, six foot three, so he's standing on a

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two and a half three foot log and this thing

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looked him in the eye, so he knows it was,

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you know, pushing that nine foot height. And he always

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called it a bigfoot, and he swears he unloaded on it,

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point blank range. But they never found any blood. They

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never found any trace other than the app the grass

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and the weeds being smashed down around that behind that wall.

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And he thinks he surprised that. He think he jumped

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up there and he was being quiet, and he jumped

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up there and the thing that it might have been

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sleeping and stood up and he said that, you know,

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it roared and you could feel the breath. And he

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always described the breath like that was always the thing.

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He was literally nose to nose with it when he

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drew his handgun and just started firing.

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My goodness, so we're talking. We're not talking feet away,

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We're talking potentially inches away.

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Inches away. And what's most interesting is that with this story,

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I heard it directly from my uncle, but of course

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I was a little kid right then. I heard it

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from my grandfather, sitting on his lap, one of his stories.

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I was estranged from my real father for almost twenty years,

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and when we reconnected back in twenty sixteen and I

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asked him about the incident, he told me, almost verbatim,

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word for word, the story, and it kind of gave

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me chills. And then my aunt that was there when

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I was a kid who's thirteen years older than me.

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I reconnected with her. We were strange for about twenty

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two twenty three years, and she lives in Maine, and

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we reconnected and she was telling me the exact same story, verbatim,

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word for word. So like everyone in the family knows

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that your uncle Jess shot a bigfoot, it's well known.

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That's just how it is. It's not like a story

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of the family that we made up. It's something that

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actually happened that all of us know about. And my

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uncle never went hunting again after that incident. He never

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went back in the woods again.

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I don't blame them.

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I would I wouldn't be going in the woods either.

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Oh my goodness, did you ever describe the face of

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what he saw it all?

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So we didn't get a lot of details on the face.

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Most of what I remember and what was in the

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story was that it was harry, you know, six to

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eight inch long hair on the body, and he was

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so close to it that I guess he maybe he

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didn't get a good look at it because it was

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literally in his face. He just remembers the eyes and

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the breath, big amber colored eyes and feeling like this

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immense I guess you could say just the presence of

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it just being so massive, and that it was at

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least four foot wide, and he was guessing probably right

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around that nine foot tall mark. Yeah.

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I mean at that point, I'm trying to put myself

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in your uncle's situation. I mean, you're not trying to

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get details, You're trying to save your life. I mean

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you're in shock. You're just going into primal response mode.

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How did that affect your viewpoint of Bigfoot as a

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younger child after hearing that?

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So those are the stories that kind of shaped my intrigue, right,

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those are the two that start everything for me. And

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I had a very unusual childhood. Like I said, I

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had these stories from Grandpa, and then I lived in

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a house that had a lot of strange things going on.

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I think it was demonic, you know, it was. It

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was really bad, and actually I think that was the

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reason for my parents' divorce when I was five. But

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I've always been very sensitive to certain things, and I

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just always got the feeling like I know this is true.

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I don't think, you know, my grandfather, being this religious man,

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I don't think he would just make these things up

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and he you know, he told it to me like

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he would say, Hey, I saw so and so down

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the street the other day and I said hi. You know,

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he didn't tell it like some big elaborate he didn't

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add anything to it. It always was consistent, it never changed.

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It is.

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It is very it's almost ironic in a way that man,

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it really follows the family, like your grandfather has has

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a situation, moves to a different state, and then because

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not well, because the move, then you end up buying

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that house and you're having over the years, you're having

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that activity in the house. Just it's a very weird

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how sometimes that is all connected. Some individuals have, as

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you said, definitely a form of sensitivity with paranormal or

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things that are unseen.

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Were there any.

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Other stories that were shared with from your relatives or

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family of people having bigfoot interactions.

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So that's that's basically what I have from my family

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from Ohio, and that's my father's side of the family.

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Now when my parents got divorced or we're going through

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the divorce. This would have been right around that nineteen

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eighty five, nineteen eighty six, so I would have been

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five or six years old, and they would ship me

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off to my mom's parent grandparents. My mom's parents in

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eastern Kentucky, in the middle of nowhere. They lived on

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a dirt road sixteen miles from the nearest town, and

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they didn't drive. Neither one of them drove. They didn't

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have a phone, we didn't have TV. But to me,

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it was like the best thing in the world because

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my grandfather always took me fishing. We were right on

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the Kentucky River. You had all these mountains and waterfalls

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and creeks and the river. It was just to me,

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it was the greatest adventure ever, right, So I loved

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going down there, but I noticed right away that some

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strange things were happening. So the first summer I stayed there,

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the very first thing that started happening was my grandfather

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woke me up one morning and told me, Hey, there's

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some chickens missing. Can you come help me find you know,

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see what's going on with the chickens or whatever. And

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so I went out there and he had said he

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had a couple of chickens missing. So what I thought

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was really odd was I remember this really specifically. He

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takes this piece of wire because he had just piece

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of block wood to make a door latch on the door,

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and he took a big piece of wire and he

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wraps it around the chicken coop. And we came back

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out the next day and that wire was completely unwound

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and laying on the ground, and he said there were

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two more chickens missing. And so I thought that was

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really strange. And a lot of this stuff didn't catch

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up to me until later on in life when I

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started getting more into listening to other people's accounts. So

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I'm kind of reliving some of this and thought about it,

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and it's really really crazy. So the wire was laying

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on the ground, Grandpa goes into his little shed and

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he gets like a powdery substance and starts spreading it

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around the outside of the chicken coop. Well, that was sulfur,

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and I've heard in a lot of stories that sulfur

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will keep these things away, and I had no idea.

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I just assumed it was something to keep out, you know,

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raccoons or something. But there was no blood, no feather,

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there was no didn't look like anything broke the cage

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or the chicken coop in anyway. It was really strange.

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And then I also noticed that my grandmother started acting

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very differently. I noticed all the window curtains were always closed,

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and it was like all of a sudden she just

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closed them. And she would always tell me you were

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not allowed to go out at night, was never allowed

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to go out at night. She said, if you go

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out of night, the booger will get you. And that's

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what she That was like clinically, her threat. If you

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go tonight, the booger will get you. If you don't

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go to bed, the booger will get you. If you

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don't listen to me, the booger will get you. And

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they always call she always called her a booger. Well

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she after the chickens started going missing, I noticed that

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she had this big silver pot and it was just

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this beat up old pot. And where they lived in

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this trailer was right at the base of what we

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call a haller right, so it goes it literally goes

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straight back behind their trailer, and there was a natural

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spring back there was very deep, very narrow, and right

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at the very front of it, next to their trailer,

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it was a stump, this big, huge stump, probably three

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four feet around, and instead of taking the daily scraps

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from the food and throwing them in the ditch like

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she normally would. She started putting them in this big

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pot and she would sit it on top of that stump.

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And the next day when we would go out, that

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pot would be completely empty and still sitting there, not

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knocked over, not found, you know, laying a couple feet away.

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It would just still be sitting on the stump. And

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I didn't think about that till later. I think she

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was I think she was feeding them. I think she

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was trying to bribe them into saying, don't eat my chickens.

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Here's some food, right. I didn't catch onto that till

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much much later. Now you fast forward just maybe like

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another week or so. I don't know where my grandfather was.

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It was just me and my grandmother sitting there. And

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you have to think, we're in this little tiny trailer

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in the middle of nowhere, and there's nothing to do.

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And I'm a kid, right, So Grandma takes me out

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of the porch. We're sitting on the porch where watching,

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you know, the lightning bugs, and I wanted to listen

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to the whipper wills because I never heard whipper wills.

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So she took me out to listen to the whipper

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whils and I thought that was the coolest thing ever.

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So there's this one little tiny porch light barely giving

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off any light, and Grandma's sitting there and she's reading

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her Bible and she's got a little AMFM radio going.

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I don't even remember what was on it. And I

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remember we heard this how this just long, huge, how

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that just echoed through through the mountains, right through the hills.

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I guess there are hills down there. And it wouldn't

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be till years later when I heard the Ohio how

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that had that kind of like tornado drill kind of sound,

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that siren sound. It hit me instantly. I mean it

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almost made me sick because I remember sitting there in

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the dark with my little old grandma, miles from anywhere,

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and hearing that ring through the mountains. And I asked

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my grandma, I said, what was that? And I remember

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she looked at me and deads here said, oh, well,

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that's that's just a mountain lion or a bobcat. And

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I was a little kid, so I didn't know. I'm like, okay,

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all right, so it's just it's just that was that

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was kind of my first summer there now, my second

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summer there. The next year it gets a little weirder.

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So my my grandfather wakes me up early one morning,

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and we did this a lot. He would wake me up.

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We'd go check they had a trout He had a

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trout line that he ran across the Kentucky River. I

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don't think that's legal now, but he had a trout

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line in a little boat. And he would wake me

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up and we would go check the trout line for fish,

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and if he caught something, we'd have fish for lunch.

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And it was just kind of a common thing. We'd

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pick vegetables in the garden and all that. So he

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woke me up early one morning and I remember he's

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standing there, and my grandfather was this little old man.

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He's just he kind of hunched over a little bit.

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He always had on a real nice like plaid button

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up shirt, and he always walked with a cane, and

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in his back pocket he always had a little flask,

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which I assume was whiskey. And then the other pocket

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he always had like a little thirty eight special or

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something like a little silver gun. And he wakes me

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up one morning and he says, boy, I'm going to

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go check the the trout line. You want to come

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with me? And I'm a little kid, I'm super excit.

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I'm like, yeah, Grandpa, I want to come with you.

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They always they always called me boy him and Grandma

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always called me boy. So we get up and it's

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just right before dawn, right, it's just just starting to

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get light outside. And instead of going to the right

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out of their driveway and walking down to the side

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of the river where he always went, we went left

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and walked down past my aunt's house and some other

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family to a spot we'd never been before. And it

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was actually at the base of the mountain where my

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great grandfather lived. So he takes me down there and

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we were on this dirt road and we hit this

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little it's just a little sand trail, like a little

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down two foot wide little trail, and it goes straight

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down into what I would call like a creek bed

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between two hills. So you had a big hill the road,

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then another hill, and then you had this flat bottom

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creek bed and then another hill going straight up the

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other side. And so we get down there and I

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remember it was super quiet. It was eerily quiet. I

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thought I could I didn't think about it at the time,

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but I couldn't even hear the river. We were so

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close to the river. Normally you could hear the river.

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And I remember the weeds were really tall. So I'm

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a little kid, right, So the weeds were over my

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head and Grandpa's in front of me, and I smelled

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something really, really bad, and the only way I could

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I thought it was like dead fish in the river,

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because that's historically what I'd smelled going down to the

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river so many times. I just thought it was dead fish.

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But it got hit with this horrible, horrible smell, and

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that's when the noises started. It sounded like someone was

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taking like three or four inch big limbs and just

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snapping them. And the strangest thing happened my grandfather. He

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turns around. I'm just walk along, little kid. My grandfather

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turns around. He takes his hand, he puts it right

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in my chest and stops me dead in my tracks

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and he holds his hand up and he goes like this.

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And now, my grandfather he never touched He was not

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a touchy feeling kind of guy. You never got a

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hug from him. He barely gave anybody a handshake, and

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he stopped me and put his hand on me, which

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totally took me, like by surprise and meeting a little kid.

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I'm like, whoa, what's up, what's going on? He's like,

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he takes me, and I hear and it starts getting louder.

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I hear these noises. It literally sounds like Andre the

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Giant is like fifty feet away up on the side

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of the hill, just breaking limbs, throwing stuff. You could

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fill the ground, kind of shaking like it was stomping.

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It was crazy. And my grandfather grabs my shoulders, turns

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me around the path and kind of pushes me back,

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and so I hear all this going on the whole time,

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and I'm walking back up the path. We get up

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on the road and then it kind of it kind

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of quiets down and you don't hear anything. And I

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look my grand my grandfather, I'm like, what was that?

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And he's like, let's just go see if Grandma has

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breakfast ready. Well, I'll come back and check that one later.

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And that was it. I was like, oh, okay, again,

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little kid. I had no idea. I was like, all right, okay,

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but I could tell you whatever was up there that

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was not a bear or even a person. It was

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something just huge, massive. And then of course we go

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back and Grandma makes breakfast and never talked about it.

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That's the one thing I've noticed about all my family

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down there. None of them will talk about it except

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for this is where it starts to get interesting. So again,

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my grandma and grandfather, they live alone, they don't drive,

461
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.160
they don't have a phone. Well, I have an uncle

462
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.440
that lived way back in the hills at the very

463
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.119
end of the road, and he would come by sometimes

464
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:56.440
and he would check on him. Hey, do you guys

465
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.279
need anything, How are you doing well? He came by

466
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:02.880
one evening sitting there, and he's talking to Grandpa and

467
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.680
he says, did you see them loggers haul out of

468
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.240
here real fast today? My Grandpa's like, nah, I didn't

469
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.240
see him. He was yeah, he goes, a bunch of

470
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.119
loggers said they saw something big and white and hairy

471
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.880
and it smelled really bad and screamed at him. He goes,

472
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.480
they left their coffee sitting, and they left machines running.

473
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.440
They just took out of there, all of them left

474
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.279
middle of the day. And Grandpa's like, well, that's probably

475
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.759
probably it. Again, my grandfather never said it, but my

476
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.160
uncle said a word that jumped out to me like

477
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.400
I will never forget. He said, must have been the calker.

478
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:40.079
And I had no idea what that meant. I said,

479
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:43.039
you know, cawker, what's a cowcher? And you know, my

480
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.480
uncle was telling me, you know, there's big white thing

481
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.359
in the woods, it's a cowker. And I had no idea.

482
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:56.039
I had no idea. And so we toward toward the

483
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.160
end of the summer, we actually my mom comes down

484
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.039
to get me and we go up to see my

485
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.519
great grandfather. He was still alive at the time, right,

486
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:05.440
so this was still that eighty six, probably eighty seven

487
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:06.839
at the latest. Now we go up to see my

488
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.920
great grandfather and he's ninety seven years old and he's

489
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.880
got one bad eye, and you know, he's just he's

490
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.559
getting up in age. And so we go see him

491
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:18.960
and I'm in the living room. I'm sitting on the couch. Again.

492
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.839
They have no TV. It's a very rudimentary house. They're

493
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:26.480
still using a wood cooking stove and all that, and

494
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.640
the house is kind of busy because you know, cousins

495
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.640
and family are there. They were just having to visit,

496
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.960
having dinner, and out of nowhere, I was like, you

497
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.839
know what I'm gonna ask Grandpa. So I look over

498
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.359
my great grandfather's sitting just directly across from me and

499
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:43.039
the recliner, and I said, Grandpa, what's a cowcher? And

500
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:47.599
you would have thought I broke a window or something.

501
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.920
It was like those old eighties movies where the record

502
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.559
scratches across, you know, and everything stops and goes dead quiet.

503
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:59.279
Everybody in the house got super like dead quiet. And

504
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.039
Grandpa l and that this is a haunting because you know,

505
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.759
he was a soul and his eye was bad. And

506
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:06.480
he gets right up to me in the edge of

507
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.319
that chair and I'm sitting there, and he goes, it's big,

508
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.839
it's white. It moves faster than any man. He goes,

509
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:15.880
If you, if you stand real still and you look

510
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:17.799
out of the corner of your eye, you'll see it

511
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.039
look out around the tree at you. He goes, that's

512
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.640
why we don't go out at night. The booger will

513
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.599
get you. And he just leans back in his seat,

514
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:33.119
and I'm just sitting there, just like what what so?

515
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:34.640
And then of course I had to go to my

516
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:36.400
mom and ask my mom, what's a calquer. What are

517
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.319
they talking about? And she's like, oh, yeah, I know.

518
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.720
It's been well known in our family that there's this

519
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.400
thing called a calcar. It's a big white monster that

520
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.480
lives in the woods, and that's why we don't go

521
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.200
out at night. She goes, when I was a little kid,

522
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:50.480
and I used to lay in bed at your aunt's

523
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.680
house and with with you know, her cousin, and we

524
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:55.960
always knew when it was coming in because all the

525
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.680
dogs would go underneath the porch and hide. And then

526
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:01.640
when you're laying there in bed, she said, we would

527
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.680
lay there listen. You could hear it walking up and

528
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.480
down the creeks, turning over rocks, big rocks. You could

529
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.839
hear it, but nobody would go out to see what

530
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.640
it was. Nobody would investigate nothing. The dogs cowered, all

531
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.119
the animals were quiet. She goes, you could hear it

532
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.079
because where my aunt lived, it was literally my aunt's house,

533
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.519
dirt road and then a creek with a waterfall. And

534
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.200
she goes, you would hear it walking this creek. And

535
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.279
she goes, it happened all the time, and nobody, nobody

536
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.519
even acted like it was anything. And that's all she

537
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.240
would say, And my grandma would never talk about it.

538
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.039
I always tried to get my grandma to talk about it.

539
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.559
My grandfather passed away when I was seventeen. He never

540
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.440
talked about it at all, but all of my family

541
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.440
down there know about the calker. And I thought that

542
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.480
was just such a weird word, like what does that mean?

543
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:51.599
Like calker? I mean kerr kerr means like hairy animal

544
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.720
or something, I guess, and I thought maybe it killed cows.

545
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.720
I don't know, but I've never heard that word any

546
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:02.440
other time than when I was talking to another podcaster

547
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.640
who's probably everyone knows. I don't know if it's okay

548
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.839
to say his name, but he's pretty pretty well known

549
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.160
and okay. So I was talking to West from Sasqus

550
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:16.759
Chronicles and he goes, you know, Calker, Calker, That's that's

551
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.759
such an unusual name. He goes, I did hear that

552
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.519
one time? I said, really, we're at was it in Kentucky?

553
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.359
He goes, Now, I was a little old man in

554
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.240
West Virginia and he was way up on a mountain

555
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.440
and he had really bad cell phone receptions so I

556
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.880
couldn't get him on, but he was telling me. He goes,

557
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.359
you know that that calker keeps coming around, and Wes

558
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.559
was like, what's a colcher? He goes, you know, man,

559
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.559
a bigfoot, And Wes was like, that's the only time

560
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.279
I've ever heard anyone else call it that. It was

561
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:48.640
such a unique word, and it must be specific to

562
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.440
that area or specific to a group of people, right,

563
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:57.119
It's just it was so strange. It was just the

564
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.880
weirdest time in my childhood. And as I got older

565
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.480
and I listened to more, you know, I witness testimonies

566
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.880
and more people's stories, and I connected. I was like,

567
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.319
the how the sulfur, the chickens, the pot, you know,

568
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.759
the bluff charge, all of it made perfect sense, Like

569
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.880
there was a I believe there was a white bigfoot

570
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.440
living there during however, long back to when at least

571
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.240
to when my grandfather, my great grandfather would go out

572
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.720
and walks and walk up into the hills and get

573
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.160
coal and all that and go fishing, so at least

574
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.519
that long. It's just it blows my mind. And I've

575
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.519
never I've never heard about it. I've never heard anyone

576
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.759
else call it that. And where this is located, this

577
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.240
is only probably less than twenty miles. As the crow

578
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:50.440
flies to like the National Daniel Boue National Forest, so

579
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.160
it's very right there. Yeah, it's right there. So that

580
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.400
kind of also made me, you know, And of course

581
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.799
I actually went back there this last January, and of

582
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.720
course my grandfather and grandmother's trailers all falling in. It's

583
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.559
really sad. You know, his his chair that he always

584
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.240
sat in, sitting out in the front yard. It's all overgrown.

585
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.519
And I got out and the stump is still there,

586
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.480
and it just it just brought back so many memories.

587
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.680
It was just it was crazy. It was just nuts.

588
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:20.759
But that that was a lot of the Bigfoot stuff

589
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.160
that happened when I was a kid. Now, as I

590
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:31.680
got older and I've listened to hundreds and hundreds of

591
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:35.920
thousands of hours of eyewitness testimonies and research and all

592
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.920
this time, and just I've just become fascinated. At first,

593
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.400
I was going to write a book, and so I thought, well,

594
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:43.839
let me do some research and write a book. So

595
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.640
that's what led me to start listening to Sasquatch Chronicles

596
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:50.559
and you know, some of the kind of shows and

597
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.920
things like that, and you know, from the Shadows and

598
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.119
with Shane and things like that. So I really kind

599
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.240
of got into that, and I obviously I binged every

600
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.480
one of your shows. Just my job allows me some

601
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:06.920
free time to just listen as I'm working, so I

602
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.400
put it on. But as I got older, I realized

603
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.039
that a lot of what I was told or what

604
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.880
happened to me as a kid had to be Bigfoot

605
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:20.960
had to be right. It's just just no other explanation.

606
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:26.279
Man, I can't imagine living through that. You put everything together,

607
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:36.160
what an incredible a group of accounts, And did have

608
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.200
you ever gone actively out yourself trying to figure out

609
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:44.680
really the mystery of a bigfoot? Or is it a

610
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.920
thing where you have this family history but you're not

611
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.079
really crossing that line.

612
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:56.720
So being kind of sensitive, I'm worried, right, So I have.

613
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:01.000
I did one time, and I've actually been looking for

614
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.599
actively looking for years for the wildlife area where my

615
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.799
uncle shot to pick foot, Right, I've been looking for

616
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.960
it forever, and I found it by accident. I found it.

617
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.839
I know exactly where it is now, and I've been

618
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.559
very skeptical to go. I don't know. I have this

619
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:23.119
feeling like like my family harmed your people? Is that

620
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.079
is that that sounds weird? Like I have this feeling

621
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.480
like like maybe it would know me because of that,

622
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.039
and that's not what I would want, you know, I wouldn't.

623
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.839
I'd be like here in peace, man, I just want

624
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:34.519
to get a glimpse of you, just to say I

625
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.759
did once. I don't have any you know, but I

626
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.240
always have that feeling deep down like maybe they would know.

627
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.160
And that's I know it's weird, but I kind of

628
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:44.559
kind of feel that way.

629
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:51.240
It the wildlife area. Is that anything that you would

630
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.119
be willing to share. I know there's probably a few

631
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.920
listeners that are like ask them, but if you don't

632
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.319
want to share, I totally respect that I can.

633
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.160
I can share with you. So it's called Tranquility, and

634
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.680
it's located in Seeman, Ohio, just outside of Seaman, Ohio,

635
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.679
which is about twenty minutes south of where I grew up.

636
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.199
I'll have to look into that.

637
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.199
I don't think that has ever come up in any

638
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.800
of my interviews, but I'll have to take a look interesting.

639
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.360
So I always you know, obviously I was. I. I

640
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.559
was in way, way, super deep when I started listening

641
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.440
to the podcasts and researching for my book. I was

642
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.679
in super deep and my family we took a trip

643
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:38.559
to Tennessee in twenty twenty two and took my daughter

644
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.320
and my son and we went and got a cabin

645
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:46.800
in Severeville, Tennessee, severe County and way out in the

646
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.639
middle of nowhere, and it was really nice. And the

647
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:55.559
first night we're there, my son was little. He was grumpy,

648
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:56.960
so I laid down with him in bed and I

649
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.519
fell asleep, and I woke up at like three o'clock

650
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.400
in the morning, like two forty five, three o'clock in

651
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.199
the morning. I was mad because I missed out on

652
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.280
you know, the hot tub and some of dinner, you know,

653
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.960
dessert and marshmallow. I was I was upset because I

654
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.159
missed all that. So I go out and this was

655
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:12.599
back when I smoked. I go out on the back

656
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.920
porch and I'm cleaning up around the jacuzzi where everybody

657
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.280
left all their towels and trash and stuff. And I'm

658
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.239
just cleaning and I'm smoking a cigarette and I'm standing

659
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.960
there and all of a sudden, up the mountain is

660
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.599
like right behind us, probably three hundred four hundred yards

661
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.840
up on the mountain, I hear one good crack and

662
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.719
I got all excited. I totally fanboyed out right I

663
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.519
got my phone out and I'm trying to get record

664
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.320
on and I'm like listening and listening, and it didn't

665
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.559
do it again. I didn't hear anything else, and it

666
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.760
was it was, but it was. It was so loud

667
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.360
and it was so late. And I told my wife

668
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.880
the next morning, she's like, oh, there's probably people up there.

669
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.679
I'm like, come here, and I point up the mountain

670
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.159
and she's looking and we're looking, you know, like this,

671
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:57.760
and I said, do you think you'd want to be

672
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.199
up there walking around the middle of the night with

673
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.840
no light? And she's like, no, I guess that makes sense.

674
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.519
I'm like, yeah, no, that was something. I'm not saying

675
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.679
it was bigfoot, but that was something very cool for

676
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.440
me just go was that my first experience? Was that

677
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.159
my first thing? You know, he's as little as it sounds,

678
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.440
since I was a little kid for me to go, wow,

679
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:20.440
I don't know.

680
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.599
It's so it's weird because I think you are the

681
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:29.360
third person on the show where it has been a

682
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.039
like a rented cabin in the Severeville, Tennessee area, And

683
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.480
I don't know what I mean. Yes, the smokey's so

684
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.800
incredibly active, but I mean, if you want to have

685
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.000
something happen, maybe you just need to rent a cabin

686
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:45.039
over by Severeville, because it has happened more than once

687
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:46.920
out there where people have had activity.

688
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.039
If we fast forward a little bit, I actually had

689
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.000
a sigding of something else that I'll get to in

690
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.199
a bit, But I had a siding also in twenty

691
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.519
twenty two, in October, something that was not big Foot.

692
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.840
But in twenty twenty four, we started going to a

693
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.360
campground with our friends. Some friends knew the owners of

694
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.519
this campground. They just bought it. So we went down

695
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.039
for the summer in twenty twenty four, it would have

696
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.920
been in June, and we took the kids and it

697
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.880
was like an all weekend thing. And this campground is located

698
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:20.880
about an hour from where I live. It's down in

699
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:26.760
Adams County along Brush Creek. And we had just a

700
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.360
great day kayaking and you know, having fun with the

701
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.199
kids and everything and of course the adults. That night,

702
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.360
we started having some drinks and you know, goofing off

703
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:40.199
and whatnot. And I kept getting this weird feeling while

704
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.000
I was there. Right, it was just the strangest feeling, like, man,

705
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.480
I really feel like I'm not like I don't know

706
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.159
if I'm being watched or observed or something strange, and so,

707
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.239
you know, I didn't think anything about it, really, I

708
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.960
just sat there and I got this. It was probably

709
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.599
it was probably pretty late. I mean we stayed up,

710
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:03.000
stayed up well past two o'clock in the morning, and

711
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.280
everybody was winding down and going to you know, getting

712
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.159
ready to go to bed. And I was just sitting

713
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:08.920
there by myself by the fire for a minute and

714
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:16.679
I got this feeling. I was like, my mind is muddy? What?

715
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:16.199
What?

716
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.039
What? And I literally felt like something was trying to

717
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.559
tell me my mind was muddy. And I kept picturing

718
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:28.119
like muddy water, and I'm like, it is just jumped out.

719
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.760
It was like, all of a sudden, I just felt like,

720
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.159
why am I being told my mind is muddy? And

721
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.920
then I started thinking, you know, does that mean you

722
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.639
think I'm because I'm drinking? Are you saying that's a

723
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.440
bad thing? And it was just really weird. So I

724
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.920
went in the tent and I laid down, and I

725
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.320
kid you not, I was literally laid down. I wasn't

726
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:54.679
even there two minutes and I heard crack, this huge crack,

727
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.840
and it was we were camped right on the rear,

728
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.480
like right on the river, Like I mean, there was

729
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.960
a ledge going straight down and we were right on

730
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.400
the river. And this came from what it sounded like,

731
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.239
on the edge of the river on our same side,

732
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.360
and it's probably about a seventy five foot gradual, you know,

733
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.559
declined down into the river from where we were, and

734
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.559
I heard this crack and I just laid there with

735
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:24.360
my eyes wide open, like okay, and I just I

736
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:25.960
lay there until I fell asleep. I don't know how

737
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.280
late it was, but I didn't hear anything else. So

738
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.360
the next day I get up and I start talking

739
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:34.519
to the owners of the campground, really nice ladies, really

740
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.639
super great ladies, and I said, hey, you know, you guys,

741
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.760
ever seen anything weird or hear anything weird down here?

742
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:44.440
And the owner was like, actually, this used to be

743
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.000
called the Bigfoot Homestead. And I'm like what, And she's like, yeah,

744
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:53.920
doctor bought this campsite because he believed that a group

745
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.719
of family of Bigfoot lived on this property. She goes,

746
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.440
we hear woodknock and breaks, and she showed me pictures

747
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:08.280
of huge footprints all kinds of stuff, and she goes, no,

748
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.679
you know, I didn't really believe it when we first

749
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.519
moved here. But my stepson he's really into it and

750
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.400
he's really wanting to research it more. So we went

751
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.039
out one night and there's a there's a cemetery just

752
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:22.519
down the road there. She's like, we went out to

753
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.440
the cemetery one night. We were just kind of checking

754
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.519
it out, and she goes, I kid you not. Something

755
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.760
through a huge piece of ad a cinder block at

756
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.599
me and came inches from hitting me. And we got

757
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.360
out of there. We ran, and she's like, there's all

758
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.360
kinds of strange stuff that happens here. She's like, I

759
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:43.280
could take you to a cave right now where there

760
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:48.320
are multiple deer carcasses and bones and all this stuff.

761
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.960
And she's like, I could take you up there. And

762
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.639
I'm like, I don't. I don't know if I want

763
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.719
to go, but thank you, you know. She's like, no, seriously,

764
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.639
it's real, and I'm like, no, I believe you. And

765
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.559
I still we actually are going to go go back

766
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.840
again on Mother's Day and go camping. But so we

767
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.760
left that week and nothing else weird happened. I never

768
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.679
went to the cave. It wasn't brave enough. But we

769
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:20.079
went back in October. And in October there was we

770
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.159
had a big Halloween party, so they had a haunted

771
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.840
trail that was all decorated with animatronics and lights and

772
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.639
all that stuff. And I play in a band and

773
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.880
my band played the party, and then after it was

774
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.400
all said and done, we decided we're going to goof

775
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:34.679
off and me and the singer, we're going to go

776
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.840
walk down the haunted trail. Just everybody's just winding down, right,

777
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.719
And this was late too, This was probably that two

778
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.000
thirty three o'clock in the morning. So we go down

779
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.960
the trail and I'm joking with him because I you know,

780
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.400
I'm telling stories about Bigfoot and all that, and he

781
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:53.079
thinks I'm just crazy, right, And I'm like, hey, grab

782
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.159
I got my phone out, grab one of those those

783
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.320
logs and smack that tree. So he picks up a

784
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.199
log and he's macs the tree like five times really fast,

785
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.000
and I'm like, well, whoa woll, how do you know

786
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.760
how many times to do that? What is that? Maybe

787
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.119
you're ringing the dinner bell. Don't just smack the tree?

788
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.039
And right then and there, off in the dark while

789
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:12.960
we're back on this haunted trail and you know, all

790
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.760
this stuff going on behind us, Right out in front

791
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.679
of us, about fifty feet in the bushes, you hear

792
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:22.119
something big move and you'd actually see off in the distance,

793
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.760
like you see, like just real quick whatever, like the

794
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.960
top of the bushes move. And he just stops and

795
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.440
looks at me, and he's like, what was that, And

796
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.599
I'm like, I don't know. He's like, there's no people

797
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:34.199
over there. I'm like, no, we're at the very edge

798
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.119
of the campground, man, this is the end of the trail.

799
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:37.960
I said, there's nobody back there, and if there is,

800
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.039
they're going to risk walk around on cliffs and edges

801
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.079
and all that. Yeah. No, no light, No, there's nobody

802
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.039
back there. So he just hits it again and he

803
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.320
breaks the law of the stick. It's probably about three

804
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.960
inches around. He breaks it in half, and then he's

805
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.199
looking at it and he just chucks it into the

806
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:56.280
bushes and I'm freaking out. I'm like, don't do that.

807
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.440
You don't throw things at these things. And he's like

808
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.719
what I said, No, you don't trust me. Historically, you

809
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.639
do not throw things at these things. They throw things

810
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.960
back and it's not good. And so he's like, well,

811
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.480
maybe we should get out of here. And I'm like, yeah,

812
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.119
let's let's leave. So we go back to camp and

813
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:13.800
he's like, do you want to do you want to

814
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.599
go down to the creek bed and just kind of

815
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.840
look around. I'm like sure, sure. I had a little

816
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:22.480
really bright spotlight flashlight and you know, my phone light.

817
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.559
I'm like, let's walk down there. So it's it's probably,

818
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.320
you know, I don't know, probably a twenty minute walk

819
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.280
to get down to the creek bed. And I noticed

820
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.440
as soon as we got down to the riverbed, I

821
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.239
guess it's a river. As soon as we got down

822
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.880
to the riverbed, the temperature dropped. I mean it went

823
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.679
from like feel uncomfortable wearing a hoodie to like seeing

824
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:47.360
your breath and cold, cold, cold. And he's like, that's

825
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.559
so weird. It's like we walked into the cold. And

826
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.159
I'm like, it's really weird. So he's got the light right,

827
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.079
and he's just nervous as heck because she's just shining

828
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.960
around everywhere. I'm like, got my phone and I'm filming

829
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.440
and I got all this on film. And he walking

830
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.960
around and I swear on the other side of the

831
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.000
river there was some bushes and a log. I swear

832
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:17.360
I saw a huge, black, furry mass. I mean we're

833
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.800
talking huge. But it was just within a quick second

834
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.840
as he was flashing the light around and I said,

835
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:25.599
do do do do do? Go go back, go back,

836
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.280
and he goes back and there's nothing there but the size.

837
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:33.039
I mean, we're talking like Volkswagen bug or bigger. Like

838
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:37.239
we're talking something huge was hunching over behind the foliage

839
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.679
and then gone. So we're sitting there, he's shining light around.

840
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:44.239
I'm like, just be really quiet for a minute. We're

841
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.079
gonna stand on this little peninsula the creek, you know,

842
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.159
the river's running around us. Let's just stand here and listen.

843
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.119
It was the water was really low, so let's just listen.

844
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.960
And as we're standing there, we hear one side of

845
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.679
the river and just almost within just a couple seconds later,

846
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.679
you hear it again. And on the audio recording you

847
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:03.800
can barely hear it. You have to really turn up,

848
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.599
but you can hear it. And he looks at me

849
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.320
and he's like, what was that? And I'm like, I've

850
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.039
been telling you man that you know, there's no animals

851
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.800
or people out here. You could see the camp way

852
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.639
off in the distance. It was just this little tiny

853
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.400
light the camp site, right. He's like, no, no, that's

854
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.079
that can't be now. I'm like I'm like, yeah, I'm

855
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:24.719
telling you that. He's like, well, what are we gonna do?

856
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.719
We don't have guns, we don't what are we going

857
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.679
to do? And I'm like, calm down, it's okay. I'm

858
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.440
more worried about, you know, bear and mountain lion. He's

859
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.199
like mountain lion. I'm like, just calm down. And literally

860
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.440
during this conversation, I stopped for a minute and you

861
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:43.679
hear this how I mean, it is this long, just

862
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:47.199
and it echoes through the through the through the valley, right,

863
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.519
you just hear it. And he looks at me and

864
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:54.159
he goes, was that them? And I'm like I don't know.

865
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.320
And I got all this recorded on my phone. Right,

866
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.639
So he's just like, okay, I think we need to leave.

867
00:45:58.679 --> 00:45:59.960
I think we need to leave now. And he started

868
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.960
really panicking, and I'm like, it's okay, I've not heard

869
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.159
you know, you don't very often hear people getting hurt

870
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.639
by them, maybe scared out, but it's okay if they're here,

871
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:10.159
you know. He's trying to be like, it's okay. If

872
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.039
they're here, and he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no no,

873
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.360
we gotta leave. So we get back up the creek

874
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.880
bed and there's this long field to get back to

875
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.800
the camp and it's surrounded on both sides by woods.

876
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.239
You got the creek on one side with woods, and

877
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.039
then you got the woods on the other side and

878
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.639
on the other side. As we're walking, we're just being

879
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.480
kind of quiet to see if we can hear anything else.

880
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:32.079
We hear what sounds like a whimper or like something

881
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.159
big whimpering, not like a dog whimper, but like, I

882
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.639
don't know, like it hurt itself or stepped on something,

883
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.239
or just this weird, strange noise. And he immediately stops

884
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.880
and shines the light over there, and I'm like, what

885
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.239
was that. He's like, I don't know what was that.

886
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:49.519
And I'm like, haven't heard that noise before. That was

887
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.760
really strange. He's like, yeah, we should get out of here.

888
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:57.519
So we left and we didn't experience anything. We left

889
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.840
early the next morning, so we didn't experience anything. But

890
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.159
the owner of the campsite has told me that they've

891
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.719
had a lot of people come down there and research

892
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.320
and camp out and that kind of takes me back

893
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.639
to my siding, so because it all is connected. Right.

894
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:23.039
So in twenty twenty two, in October, I was taking

895
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:27.639
my daughter home from a choir recital. My wife and

896
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.840
my youngest stayed home because he was little, and it

897
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.000
was just the two of us driving home and we're

898
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.400
only about, you know, a couple of miles outside of town,

899
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:40.559
and we saw what I can only describe as a

900
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:47.559
giant wolf run across the road, I mean huge. And

901
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:52.960
I looked at my daughter. I kind of elbowed her

902
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.239
and I said, you see that, and she just looks

903
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.599
something and goes big dog. And I'm like, uh, that

904
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.400
was not a big dog, and had a mane like

905
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:08.320
a lion, big pointed ears, long snout. It was just

906
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:10.800
crazy looking, and it moved so fast. Had I been

907
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.440
just one second or two seconds, you know, later or earlier,

908
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.519
I probably wouldn't have seen how fast the think covered

909
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.480
across the road from one empty creek, bed over into

910
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.199
a field and disappeared. Well, they were doing construction on

911
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.000
the bridge. I just crossed the bridge and I went

912
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:28.960
back and I took a tape measure. I stopped. I

913
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.360
was that crazy guy, right, I stopped on the side

914
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:31.880
road and take a tape measure out and I measure

915
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:36.559
and the shoulders where one of the signs were for

916
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:42.320
construction was like four foot seven at the shoulders. It

917
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.719
was huge. And I didn't I had no idea what

918
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.360
I saw, right, I just I've heard about dog Man

919
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:50.719
and all that stuff, but I had no idea what

920
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.800
I saw. Well, I didn't know. But I was talking

921
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.880
to the owner of the campground and in October of

922
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:01.360
twenty twenty two, she saw a huge wolf like creature

923
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:04.960
but it was on two legs running through the same campsite,

924
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.239
the camp area, right in a field. And she's like,

925
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.440
I've never heard of that before. And I explained to

926
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:12.199
her dog Man, I said, you know, I saw something

927
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.480
at the same time, and so she was just it

928
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.840
was really weird that we'd both seen it in the

929
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.840
same month, an hour apart from each other. I saw

930
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.159
it on a creek, you know, a pretty good sized creek.

931
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.320
She was she just got the campsite right on the river.

932
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.920
It was just weird. It was all very strange. So

933
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:33.920
I don't know. I don't know what I saw, but

934
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:38.159
I I don't know. It wasn't natural way. It moved

935
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:39.840
in a way that was not natural. I can tell

936
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.320
you that for sure. It moved like like something out

937
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.880
of this world. Like the legs were so fast, it

938
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.159
was like a blur. But I saw the main I

939
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.880
saw the ears, I saw the snout. In my mind,

940
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.039
I grew up watching werewolf movies. I thought it looked

941
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.000
like something like American Werewolf in London or oh d me.

942
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.960
Oh yeah. If you ever seen the movie Willow.

943
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:03.639
Yeah, oh yeah, classic eighties right.

944
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.440
You remember the big wolf like creatures in Willow with

945
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.079
the big shaggy mane Yes, it looked like that, but bigger.

946
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.599
Ugh. I hate dog man stuff.

947
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.719
I mean, maybe that's no, it's okay to say that.

948
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.599
I don't like it. It freaks me out, it really does.

949
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.920
There's nothing good about it.

950
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:25.559
It really freaked me out, and it had an effect

951
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:29.800
on me. It's gonna sound crazy, but ever since I

952
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:34.519
saw it, I have very strange dreams. I had one

953
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:40.320
very vivid night tare where I saw a big, giant

954
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.039
wolf shadow standing in the corner and I freaked out

955
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.039
so bad. I woke up screaming and I fell out

956
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.960
of bed. I woke up my wife like and you know,

957
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.440
flip on the lights. There's nothing there I had. I

958
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.960
don't know if it's just in my mind, but I've

959
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:58.239
had some really really strange, strange dreams, some that are

960
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:03.920
really out there. Like I'm me living my life, but

961
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.800
my family is all different, right, Like my son, I

962
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.079
know he's my son, doesn't look like my son. My wife,

963
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.719
I know she's my wife, but she doesn't look like her.

964
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:18.280
And they are all these unfamiliar faces, new house, new places.

965
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.280
Weird things happen in these dreams, but there's always this

966
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:27.079
like lurking, dark presence, always in the background. It. When

967
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.440
I first saw this thing, I had them regularly. I

968
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.880
would have them two or three times a week. Now

969
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.079
I only have them probably once a month. But I

970
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.159
still have these strange dreams. And they say you can't

971
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.119
dream about a face you've never seen, but I've seen

972
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:43.679
faces I can't.

973
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.000
You can. You absolutely can. One hundred.

974
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.719
You have lived through some wild, wild stuff. I have

975
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.039
a few questions for you. One, I want to make

976
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.679
sure I don't skip past it. Do you want to

977
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.559
share I'm just curious. Well, if you're able to share

978
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:03.599
the name of your band.

979
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.239
Oh yeah, no, Mike, my band is called firefour One

980
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.039
so fire the number four one, fire full.

981
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:13.840
One, fire for one Okay, and where's the best place

982
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:14.519
to listen to that?

983
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:19.760
We haven't officially recorded anything yet. You can check out

984
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.679
a lot of our videos of our recording and stuff

985
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:25.039
on Facebook at Firefox one. There's a lot of you know,

986
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.559
we don't really do things very seriously. We just kind of,

987
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.760
you know, play parties and events and festivals and but

988
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.239
we are working on writing an album currently.

989
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.119
So nice, nice, yeah, send me links when when that's out.

990
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.639
I'd love to love to listen to that. I'm sure

991
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.039
other other listeners would as well. So you're saying, I

992
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:45.320
just want to make sure I hear this. So that

993
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:49.159
campground not only has bigfoot activity, but that's also where

994
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.039
you saw that dog man as well. It's the same area.

995
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.400
That's where the owner saw the dog man. She saw

996
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.599
it in the same the same year that I saw it,

997
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:57.960
and they're about an hour apart.

998
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.400
Okay, gotcha, got you?

999
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.039
Yeah, I saw it just out. I saw it ten

1000
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:06.599
minutes from my house, which made me super nervous. Yeah,

1001
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.000
it made me like I turn on all the floodlights

1002
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.199
every night now. I you know, we have cameras up.

1003
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.079
I live on a lake and you know it's it's

1004
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.360
a subdivision, but it's still it's still creeped me out

1005
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:20.880
enough to you know, to take a little extra precautions

1006
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:23.920
based on what I've absolutely just crazy.

1007
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.639
The I'm just going to ask, as it's it's my

1008
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.920
job and you don't have to, of course, but are

1009
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.239
you able to share the name of the campground or

1010
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.599
is that something where I know, sometimes we have places

1011
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.199
we go to and we don't want to really have

1012
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.400
the rest of the world messing around with it.

1013
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:44.760
I get that, but.

1014
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:48.559
No, so I really don't want to say and I'll

1015
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:55.800
tell you why. Okay, after my wolf Preacher siding, I

1016
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:58.840
met with a member of the BFROO. They actually came

1017
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:03.840
out to investigate and meet me on site, and which

1018
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.599
I thought was weird because I didn't think they came

1019
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.000
for dog man related stuff, right, And I don't know

1020
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.159
if he was there on his own personal court or

1021
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.360
he was doing something for the b f ROO. I

1022
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.119
don't think there's a report on it. And I got

1023
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:20.920
talking with him and he said, you know, I was like, Hey,

1024
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.000
I really want to go to like Salt Fork or

1025
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.039
you know, all the big hot spots. I really want

1026
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:26.519
to go check out and I want to get involved.

1027
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:27.719
I want to I want to go out more and

1028
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.519
do more research and be involved in the community and somehow.

1029
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.400
And he's like, you know, you don't have to go

1030
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:39.719
far to to you know, look for Bigfoot. He goes,

1031
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:45.480
you know, I put my l DRS or or l

1032
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.639
ORD whatever they are, the long.

1033
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:50.480
Long term duration field recorders, those guys.

1034
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.400
Yeah, yeah, that's it, he was. I put them about

1035
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.719
an hour from here, and I'm like, oh, okay. But

1036
00:54:57.800 --> 00:54:59.480
at the time I didn't know. I hadn't been to

1037
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.360
the campus yet. This was twenty twenty two. I didn't know.

1038
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.119
And I would later find out from the camp owners

1039
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:10.079
that he's out there frequently putting up his equipment. So

1040
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.559
that's why I did, got it. Yeah, I didn't want

1041
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.559
to share, but that's that's the only reason I wouldn't,

1042
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.119
because I wouldn't want to step on his research without

1043
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.119
his permission or anything. He's a great guy. I really

1044
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:20.400
like that.

1045
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:22.039
Yeah, totally totally understand that.

1046
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.119
I will say, Adams County has come up a few

1047
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.079
times on the show, and man, if I was in Ohio,

1048
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.800
that's where I would be focusing on. If I was

1049
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.679
in that corner definitely Adams County. That place just sounds wild.

1050
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.039
And then you've got the Serpent Mounds over there, right.

1051
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.719
Yeah. It's Actually it's funny because the last time we

1052
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:46.320
camped in October of twenty four, we actually stopped at

1053
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.920
Serpent Mount on the way home because it's right down

1054
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.199
the road. I mean it's literally twenty minutes down the

1055
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:54.360
road from our house. Super Mount is, and we stopped

1056
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:56.599
there and we walked around and I hadn't been since

1057
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.559
I was a kid, and it was super cool, which

1058
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.199
is funny because there's another Bigfoot story there. We go

1059
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.800
into the shop and in the shop there's this young

1060
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.199
girl working there, and they've got a couple of bigfoot things.

1061
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.119
Not a lot, you know, but a couple. You know.

1062
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.760
I was looking at like some mugs and things like that.

1063
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.559
And we walked up to the desk and my wife

1064
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.840
is kidding me, you know, she's teasing me about bigfoot,

1065
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:20.840
you know, and the girl behind the counter goes, oh, no,

1066
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:26.159
Bigfoot's real, and with that serious face, and my wife

1067
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:28.559
is like, yeah, okay, you know, and she's like, no,

1068
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.800
the BFRO has been to my house. They've investigated. I

1069
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.440
live near in Adams County, She's like, yeah, they've been there,

1070
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.840
they've they've been there a couple of times. We have

1071
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:39.880
lots of activity. She goes, I'll tell you right now,

1072
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:44.440
Bigfoot is real. And I'm like, oh my goodness, I

1073
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:48.400
started fanboying again. I was just okay, but she didn't want,

1074
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.440
you know, got she got busy with other customers and

1075
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.519
I didn't get a chance to talk to her, but

1076
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.599
she told me flat out they've been here.

1077
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:58.679
Is so, this is a gift shop at Serpent Mouse.

1078
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.719
That's that's like a is that National park? No, it's

1079
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:03.679
not a national park.

1080
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:05.440
Excuse me.

1081
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.880
So it's just that's just like a locally owned gift shop.

1082
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:11.320
Then that you're in right.

1083
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:28.079
So sorry, Oh you're good, roadstry. No losing my voice? No,

1084
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.440
that's actually, oh my.

1085
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:30.239
God, I can't talk.

1086
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.880
You're you're saying stuff that now, Man, that happened. That's crazy.

1087
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:35.400
Wow.

1088
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:37.559
Yeah, I get taken take a few minutes. Definitely.

1089
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:42.159
I am so sorry.

1090
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:43.679
I don't know what what happened there. I'm losing my

1091
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:48.840
voice all of a sudden. That's so weird. So the

1092
00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:52.360
gift shop is actually in the Mountain Park. It's actually

1093
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:56.119
on my feet from where you go into the park.

1094
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:58.239
So it's actually part of the Serpent.

1095
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.679
Mount Okay, and that's a federally owned park.

1096
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:05.360
I assume, so yah, I should know this.

1097
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.400
I gotta look it up real quick because it's called

1098
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:17.199
Great Serpent or a Serpent Mound Mound Park, Ohio.

1099
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:23.280
All kinds of crazy stuff happens there, like is electromagnetic stuff.

1100
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:24.760
It's a historical site.

1101
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:31.079
Okay, I don't think it's it's federally owned, but I

1102
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:32.199
know it's a huge deal though.

1103
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:33.239
Okay, that's so interesting.

1104
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:35.000
I know people in the comments will probably be able

1105
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.400
to let me know what's going on over there. But

1106
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.519
my goodness, you are definitely you have gone through some

1107
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.559
wild accounts. I mean, you've lived through some wild things

1108
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.920
over these years. I can tell or if I was

1109
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:49.960
in your situation, I'd probably be at the point where

1110
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:54.000
I'm like, okay, yeah, I need to maybe not go

1111
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.519
too crazy with this, because, as you said, you're sensitive

1112
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.039
and you don't know really where or this is going

1113
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:02.840
to end up if you if you go for it.

1114
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:04.440
I don't know what you're thinking.

1115
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.079
But no, I kind of feel that way once I

1116
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.000
got the muddy Water thing in my head. Nothing like

1117
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.880
that's really ever happened before. It was really strange, and

1118
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.280
nothing like that's happened since then other than the strange dreams.

1119
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.719
But yeah, I kind of I'm kind of tour because

1120
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:23.320
I I want more than anything to just see one,

1121
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.960
but at a distance, right, like just see one safely,

1122
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:29.719
maybe from a car or from you know, far away

1123
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.239
through a telescope or something. I would be okay with

1124
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.920
just seeing, you know, a glimpse, just to satisfy this.

1125
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.239
You know, from my childhood, I I know what was

1126
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:41.079
so close to me when I was little. I know

1127
00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:44.800
this thing was like right there and I couldn't see it.

1128
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:47.199
I was a little kid. There were you know, tall

1129
00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:49.920
weeds and all that. Like I wonder if my grandfather

1130
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:51.519
saw it. I wonder, you know. I just have that

1131
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:53.639
feeling like I just want to see one again. But

1132
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:57.159
I'm terrified too, because, like I said, I just get

1133
00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:59.800
the feeling like maybe they wouldn't like me because of

1134
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.679
whatever my family did in the past. And that sounds weird,

1135
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.239
but I kind of have that feeling. Mmm.

1136
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:10.599
I don't know how you feel about this, but it

1137
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:17.840
might be maybe worth a conversation to have. And I

1138
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:19.840
don't know how you feel about that, but it might.

1139
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.519
Hey guys, you know this happened in my family relative tree.

1140
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.400
But you know, I'm not the kind of guy that

1141
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.559
would do this myself. But I don't know how you

1142
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.239
feel about that. Some people are open to that.

1143
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:34.079
But that's exactly what I was going to do if

1144
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.039
I went to, yeah, where my uncle shot the spot,

1145
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.480
That's exactly what I was going to do. And I

1146
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.480
do when I'm out, you know, in some of these

1147
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.039
areas and stuff, I do talk to the you know,

1148
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.440
absolutely I do. And that's exactly what I would do.

1149
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.920
I picture myself, you know, going to to tranquility, getting

1150
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.119
out and saying, hey, the sorry I am, I'm here.

1151
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:59.360
I mean any harm, just you know, come to visit.

1152
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:04.000
You know, I don't. I don't don't hold anything against

1153
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:05.719
me for what my family's done, you know, that kind

1154
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.239
of thing. That's exactly what I would picture doing.

1155
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:11.679
I agree with you.

1156
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:16.119
I think that just based on all, you know, different

1157
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:18.719
conversations I've had, I think that is the right way

1158
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:22.719
to handle things. And I know that's a super polarizing

1159
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.719
conversation in the community. But hey man, at the end

1160
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:27.360
of the day, I'm right there with you.

1161
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.039
So now I do have one more for you, Jeremiah.

1162
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:37.360
So I'm always wearing bigfoot shirts and stuff. My wife

1163
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.119
and kids are always buying me stuff. And where I live,

1164
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.480
I have like a little separate deck from the house.

1165
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:47.760
The fire pits between me and my neighbors. And I'm

1166
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.559
sitting out there one day and it's just getting dusk.

1167
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.280
I just lit up a fire. This I think this

1168
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:58.400
was last summer, probably in July. Yeah, I'm sitting out

1169
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.239
there and I'm just chill by the fire, just got

1170
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.480
the fire going, just planning on sitting by the fire

1171
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:07.000
for the night. And my neighbor comes over and he

1172
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.280
sees my shirt and it's like a Hawking Hill's big

1173
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:14.599
foot shirt or something, and he's like, hey, you into that.

1174
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.119
And I'm like, you could say that, you know, in

1175
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:20.519
the back of my mind you could. You could say that.

1176
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.880
And he's like, you know, most people don't believe in that,

1177
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.880
and I said, oh, I absolutely do. And he kind

1178
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:28.559
of leans over. He's like, well, can I tell you something?

1179
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.599
And I said, yeah, man, you can tell me. You know,

1180
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:33.480
we've been neighbors for years, tell me whatever you want.

1181
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.039
He goes about about ten years ago, me and my

1182
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:41.320
buddies were about I don't know, twenty miles from here,

1183
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:46.880
and they were more towards Chilli Coffee area, and he

1184
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:51.079
said that they were coon hunting, but they were really

1185
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:54.239
sneaking onto this. I guess it's like a deer farm

1186
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:58.519
when they raise deer hoping to maybe you know, snag

1187
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.079
a buck in the middle of the night and not

1188
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.679
maybe you're not supposed to do that. But he said

1189
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.800
they were out and they're walking along and they look

1190
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.199
up in the in the fork of this tree, about

1191
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:13.639
twenty feet up in the air. And here's this big

1192
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:16.480
buck twenty feet up in the air in this fork

1193
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.239
of this tree. And he goes, it was really weird.

1194
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:22.199
None of us could figure out how that deer got

1195
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.920
up in that tree. And he goes, about that time,

1196
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.559
we started smelling something really bad, and I was like,

1197
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:29.199
thinking of my head, Okay, I know where you're going

1198
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:30.760
with this. Come on, let's let's hear it. He goes.

1199
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:34.360
We shine the lighter, the light around. Everybody's got their spotlights.

1200
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:36.679
They shine around and we saw two big red glowing

1201
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:41.440
eyes and we bolted. He goes, all but one of

1202
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:43.480
my buddies. He stayed behind me. He's like, well, let's

1203
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.599
see what it is, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

1204
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:48.440
see what this is or shoot it or something. And

1205
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:51.519
so they all tear back to the trucks and you know,

1206
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:55.079
they get back and then within just a few like

1207
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:57.920
not even a minute later, he comes running and screaming

1208
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.920
and doesn't even have his gun, doesn't have anything. And

1209
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:03.639
he jumps in the bed of the truck and one

1210
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:05.039
of the other guys' is back there and they're shining

1211
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:06.679
a light on him. They could see his leg is

1212
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:11.840
completely ripped open from thigh to calf, and he's like,

1213
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.039
what what happened? What happens? He's like, just go, just go,

1214
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:16.400
just go, get out of here. So they took off,

1215
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:21.079
and he says the thing tried to grab him, and

1216
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.400
that's what the fingernails or calls were from him. He

1217
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:26.400
said it tried to grab him, and luckily he had

1218
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.639
fallen and dropped his gun right when it was grabbing him,

1219
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.199
and he was able to get away. And he jumps

1220
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.679
in the car and takes off and I said, man,

1221
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:38.039
I want to talk to this guy. You still got

1222
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.320
his number you for instance, on Facebook. I want to

1223
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:42.280
talk to this guy. And he's like, you know, he

1224
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:44.519
used to show up to parties and show us the scars.

1225
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:46.440
He would always it was like a party thing. He

1226
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:48.079
would bring it, you know, he'd show up and show

1227
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:51.480
everybody the scars. And he goes that that guy he

1228
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:54.199
went to a whole nother level. He got on drugs

1229
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:57.199
really bad, got super depressed. He's like, he was bringing

1230
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:58.480
up his phone, He's trying to find it. He's not

1231
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.599
even on Facebook anymore. He's like, wouldn't even know how

1232
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:01.920
to get a hold of him. He's like, but I

1233
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:05.000
can tell you whatever happened to him really messed him up.

1234
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.400
And he said that he's seen the scars. He saw

1235
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:11.159
it that night. He said whatever tried to get a

1236
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:15.280
hold of him just tore right down his leg and

1237
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:19.360
he said it was some kind of hairy monster. Which

1238
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:22.239
I'm just sitting there shaking my head, like, I did

1239
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.159
not expect you to come over and tell me this story.

1240
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:26.199
I thought we're going to talk about, you know, barbecue

1241
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:29.599
or grass cutting or you know, our normal conversations. I

1242
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.280
did not see this coming. He's like, no, really happened.

1243
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.360
He goes, but I don't tell anybody. He goes, nobody

1244
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:39.000
believe me. I'm like, I believe you. I absolutely believe you.

1245
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:39.440
Trust me.

1246
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.599
Wow, that Adams County as well, so.

1247
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:46.840
That that would have been Ross County.

1248
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:49.440
Ross County, Okay, So yeah, so.

1249
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:52.039
That would have been Ross. But you got you got Hyland,

1250
01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:55.480
Ross and Adams right, and then you got Pike County.

1251
01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:57.960
So it's all all right there. And I know there

1252
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:02.400
have been reports in like tar Hollow. It's a funny story.

1253
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:04.119
My wife and I actually got lost in tar Hollow

1254
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:06.519
when we were younger in a car. We got lost

1255
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.360
in the car and couldn't get our way out of

1256
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.039
there for hours. But I've heard people saying it's goodness

1257
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:14.639
there's activity there and you know, people getting lost and

1258
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.639
disappearing and being found. All kinds of weird stuff happens there.

1259
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:19.519
And that's like thirty minutes from our house.

1260
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:24.920
Scott, such a such a fascinating conversation. I just want

1261
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.280
to say thank you so much for coming on the

1262
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:33.280
show sharing some really incredible accounts from down there around

1263
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:37.440
Ohio and Kentucky and is there are some incredibly active

1264
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:42.760
areas down there. You know, as when you signed up,

1265
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:47.559
you're okay with with your email being in the the

1266
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.599
description for people to reach out to you, is that

1267
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.199
Is that still okay?

1268
01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:53.199
Yeah? Okay, so I'm okay with that.

1269
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:55.840
Yeah, the gmail dot com. So people want to reach out,

1270
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.199
they kind of send a description. But thank you so

1271
01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.440
much for coming on the show. Is there any else

1272
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.000
you know? I guess you're at the point where uh no,

1273
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:08.360
not a lot of presence online for the band, but

1274
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:10.960
maybe eventually we'll we'll get some links where people can

1275
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:11.559
check that out.

1276
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:18.280
Yeah. And then also, I'm really really going to try

1277
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:21.599
to kick off my own podcast nice, so I'm going

1278
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.960
to do kind of a different spin on it. My

1279
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:27.880
wife is actually trained in AI, and are you know,

1280
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.840
she's got all these certifications in machine learning AI and

1281
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:32.880
all this stuff. And I said, how cool would it

1282
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.800
be if I brought you on, because she's a complete skeptic.

1283
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:38.440
If I brought you on a podcast and I showed

1284
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.840
you some videos and some photos of things that I

1285
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.880
think are real, and you give me your input, right,

1286
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:45.119
you tell me what you think?

1287
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:46.679
That's all, dude.

1288
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:50.400
Yeah, we take, we take other people, have other people

1289
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:54.039
submit things, and you can tell me what your thought is.

1290
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:58.599
Because she's she's a photographer, digital photographer, like she she's

1291
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:00.320
does it all. She knows all all of it, and

1292
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.000
I said that would be so helpful because we get

1293
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:07.519
we're so overpolluted with AI crap right now and fake stuff.

1294
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:09.519
I said, I would love for you to be the

1295
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:11.639
one to come on and then see your face, like,

1296
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:13.440
because I want to see your reaction to some of

1297
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:16.239
the stuff that I think is real, and then that

1298
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.399
kind of be the premise right of our show. And

1299
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:22.199
I've already got several several people interested in coming on

1300
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:25.560
and being interviewed. But we're going to call it Monsters

1301
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:31.039
and matrimony because right so, I'm the believer, she's a skeptic.

1302
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:32.840
And there you go. I love it. Very cool.

1303
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:34.880
So we're going to try to get that started up

1304
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:37.680
and get that at least get it piloted next month.

1305
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:38.680
Awesome.

1306
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:41.279
Yeah, have me send me the link when you you

1307
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.119
get that up and rolling, and we'll make sure that

1308
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.600
it's out there. But yes, Scott, thank you so much

1309
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:47.920
for coming on the show. It's been a pleasure talking

1310
01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:48.640
to you today.

1311
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.399
Absolutely, thank you for having me, buddy, I'm I'm a

1312
01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:51.840
big fan.

1313
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.319
Thank you. I appreciate that. Have you ever heard all

1314
01:08:56.359 --> 01:09:00.399
the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Ore Again, and

1315
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.119
you think to yourself. Man, I would love to get

1316
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.399
out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well,

1317
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:10.800
guess what this year you can If this is interesting

1318
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:15.039
to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer

1319
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:19.239
Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty

1320
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:23.039
twenty six. It's gonna be even better than the previous

1321
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:26.560
year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers.

1322
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:32.640
It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There

1323
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:36.600
may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's

1324
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.239
just say sometimes it's well, you just gotta be there.

1325
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.000
We'll leave at that. More about looking for Bigfoot in

1326
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:47.119
the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know

1327
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:53.199
Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

1328
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but you can also sign up for a track deep

1330
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in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

1331
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to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

1332
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:17.279
eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this

1333
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.239
will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

1334
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.680
documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

1335
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.279
once in lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to

1336
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:31.600
be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head

1337
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on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can

1338
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:41.600
use the code b SP like Bigfoot Society podcast in

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order to get a two day pass for the price

1340
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of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for

1341
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:54.920
giving me that code so that you guys can can

1342
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.880
get a little a little help with the costs there.

1343
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:02.399
Appreciate that, Priscilla. To see you at the booth in

1344
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.199
Oakridge this year, we can talk about your encounter. Was

1345
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.680
able to talk to so many people last year and

1346
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.840
the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not

1347
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:14.880
going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

1348
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:19.439
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1349
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:22.720
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1350
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:26.520
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1351
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.359
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1352
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:32.680
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1353
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:35.680
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1354
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:39.000
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1355
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.640
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

1356
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:45.840
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1357
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.239
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1358
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:52.600
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1359
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:56.960
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1360
01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:00.159
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1361
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.640
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1362
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:07.520
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1363
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:10.920
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1364
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.920
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1365
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:17.439
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1366
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:21.239
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

1367
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:24.640
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1368
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.479
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1369
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:34.760
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1370
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:37.640
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1371
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:43.600
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1372
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.840
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1373
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.720
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1374
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.159
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1375
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.399
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1376
01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:59.279
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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1385
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:25.199
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1386
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1387
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as much as you are. Thanks again for following along

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with the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your eyes open,

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trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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be out there, and see you in the woods.