Our Property is Surrounded in Washington State!

0:02 Welcome to the Big for Society. In this episode, I talked to Bob Hartman about her current day habituation on her property in the Puget Sound area of Washington State. If you're experiencing something like this on your property, please reach out to me immediately after this episode, and if you'd like to be on the show, please contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. If you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to, there absolutely is. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon dot com forward slash the Big for Society where you can help support the podcast and get an extra episode every single week. And now let's get on with the show, all right. Big for Society got the privilege of talking to Barb Hartman today from Puget Sound in Washington State. She's a listener of the podcast, and we started talking about some interesting things that were going on, and she's going to go ahead and share what's going on in her area. But how's it going tonight, Barb? It's going fine. Thank you, thanks for having metely.

1:00 I've been looking forward to this chat. I have a feeling it's going to be a very interesting one. But you know, I'm going to go ahead and give it right over to you, Barb, and go ahead introduce yourself anything else we need to know and share what's going on in your area. Okay, all right, great, Well I am just a mom and grandma new grandma and Barbie there, Barb, you there. Hold on, I'm having issues here and you are you still there? Ye? What are you coming out of? Hmm? Sorry, hold on, this is so weird.

2:12 Oh my goodness, Okay, hold on, I'm gonnay, hey, bar we're still recording. Okay, So the last few interviews, it's so weird. Right when the person starts sharing, it's like bam every time just cuts out. In this time, my audio board just took a super dive and got stuck in like a I don't know, it's weird. It's like very very strange. Wow. And it started happening when I was talking to this guy who was talking about some really weird stuff in Tennessee, like he's being watched by a black dark van in his neighborhood and stuff. So oh wow. Yeah, but I got up and running. So yeah, I was wondering if like, and you know, I'm it's it's wild because last night when I was on a I was on a show and then I was done, and I saw that there's some like watching me from the trees, and so I'm like, I wonder if they're doing it tonight. So I just asked them to knock it off and be I don't know, like serious, like an unmarked car. No no, no, no, I'm talking about like the actual sasquatch, not not any but not anything like you can yeah, yeah, I mean like yeah, so I don't know, you know, it could be complete coincidence, but you know, all right, Barb, let's let's try take two. I'm gonna go ahead and we'll get right over to you and we'll see what happens this time. Gotcha? Okay,

3:53 bar are you there? Yes? Okay, like no, it's going to be funny, all right. So yeah, I'm just going to let you go ahead and we'll take it right from where you're starting to introduce yourself and anything else you can go into what's going on in your area, please, Okay? Gotcha? Cool? Okay, you ready for me to start? Okay? Okay? All right. So we moved to Washington State in twenty twelve, and we moved to this house in twenty seventeen. It's was a bit of a fixer upper. I guess we're right on the Puget Sound. The house had sat vacant for quite a long time, and for most of the time that it would It was built in the let's see, early eighties, and I think for the most part sat vacant. The woman that we bought it from was she spent a lot of time in I believe Arizona.

4:48 So anyway, so it did sit vacant. So we bought it in September of twenty seventeen. And the first sign that we saw was my husband found big hue footprints like bear, not not the animal bear, you know, bear foot prints under the house in some in some gravel. And he's more of a skeptic, I guess, you know, definitely more than than I was ever was. And but he said he walked by these these prints for a few days and finally said, I have to tell I have to tell Barb about this. Although we had found, or he had found on the on our beach, there were big like boulders that sit that sit way down in the in the sand and the rock, so in the in the stones these boulders were like upturned, and he thought that was kind of odd, and then I said, no, I've heard of them doing things like that because it's normally you would need some kind of like almost heavy machinery to move these big things out. So yeah, so we were I took some pictures, and you know, we just we thought it was kind of neat, but we honestly, like I guess, realistic. I didn't think that it was you know, that it was real. I don't even have to, you know, describe that. But anyway, so and we didn't really have anything happen, any sort of anything else, any other signs up until we see March. I guess of twenty two is when we had another kind

6:20 of obvious thing that was weird happened. One of our hillsides got just overnight, literally overnight, was just completely dug up again. It's it's an area where the native plants are so compact, and they're so it's a tightly woven it's called connect connect berries and the vines. They're so tightly woven it basically holds, you know, holds the bank up. And part of the hillside was just like completely ripped apart. And we have home security cameras on that area and really on the perimeter of the of you know, our yard. So if it was something like a bear or you know, some thing like that, we you know, we feel that we would have been able to see that. But so again just another kind of a curious thing that happened.

7:08 And then in let's see, in August of twenty twenty two, that's about like fire season, wildfire season in you know, in the western part of the country. And so we decided that the one side of our house, which faces the woods, we really needed to kind of clean up that area that was close to the house. There was a lot of just dry you know, under just a bunch of junk forest junk and dry stuff. So we cleaned that up and cut down some little tiny trees that were you know, they were kind of like dead and just basically fire hazard. So about ten days later, we found this like a large tree break that went I think it was about fifteen feet up. When I'm looking at it right now, it's about fifteen feet up and it's a perfectly healthy tree. We had not had any wind, you know, nothing that that should have caused this portion of this tree to break, and then for we close like closely inspected it. We discovered that it was not only broken, it was the twist, like a twist right. And then a few days after that, another tree was bent toward that and and kind of tucked under the first lark branch and forming a complete x, like a perfect X. So at this point, this time, that time in my life, I was really getting involved in in you know, kind of like starting to research a lot about Bigfoot. It's something that I've always been interested in. I watched all the

8:41 documentaries. My dad introduced me to a legend of Boggy Creek when I was a little girl, and you know, he showed me the Patterson Gimlin film. So I just was always really fascinated by the subject. But you know, not really knowing if like this is a cool thing, if it exists, but not really knowing if it acts did. So these were some kind of bizarre signs that were happening. It was almost like things were happening that we could no longer like avoid, you know, like this this may just be Bigfoot, you know, living near us or coming through I was kind of of the opinion that maybe it was just one that was just you know, maybe migrating through saw that what we were doing with the house, Like I said, it had sat vacant prior to us moving in, and so I thought that possibly it just some some you know, somebody was curious about what we were doing. So after that that X was formed, I was talking to some people that I knew through the various bigfoot pages that I you know, that I belonged to on Facebook, and one of them was Mike Scott and which and I think that you know him, Jeremi. I'm pretty sure that you do. And he's a great guy. And I and I showed him, I sent him the picture and I said, what do you think? And he's like, I think that you have some activity because he's a researcher and an act of you know, boots on the ground guy.

10:03 And he said, why don't you go out and kind of just look around in the area that you that I normally hike through, which is within walking distance of my house, and and it's a very safe you know, I've always felt safe there. I know that it's protected by the people that own it. There's never any human activity or you know, it's it's just very we live in a really rural, rural like remote area, so I just always felt safe. And so he said, just go and check, you know, kind of check around in that area. And he said, if you want to see anything, if you do, you know, he was pretty sure that it was bigfoot activity. He said, if you want to see anything, what you don't want to do is do not take your phone with you. Like, if you take your phone with you have it in your pocket, you know, don't have it out like going around filming everything.

10:48 So I thought to myself, well, I don't know if I'm really honestly ready. I was not ready to see anything. So of course I took my phone and I what I did is I put it in a land like a pocket, waterproof pocket that hangs on a lanyard and that I just hangs around my neck. And that's how I'm typically outside, you know anyway, in our yard just gardening or whatever, you know, doing yard work. So I thought, if there really are bigfoot here, they would be used to seeing me have that. So I just before I went into the woods, I just started, you know, a press record, and just kind of let it go. I walked around for about an hour and a half just looking at some things and just talking to the forest like I do.

11:33 It's so beautiful. And there was an area that I was saving for last which I had found this wood structure in December of twenty one, so about six months before, you know, prior to this, maybe a little bit more than six months spent anyway, prior to this. And it looked like I call it like a wood igloo. It looked like an igloo, but made out of sticks and branches and that like all oven together. I found it with my son and my son in law and we were thinking like, this isn't it's two. It didn't look like it wouldn't be like a human structure. There's no certainly not enough coverage if a human's going to use it, you know, for any kind of shelter, but possibly an animal.

12:16 But we didn't really know how it could have been made. But we didn't really again at that point, we weren't really thinking that much. This is just another little piece of evidence, you know that has added. But my son had crawled in it and he said it could be a den, and he felt that there was. There was an area that was was next to a tree and a large tree so he felt there was an air that he said he could have maybe crawled down in, like it was dug down in deeper, but I didn't want him, I said, and get out of there in case there is some sort of an animal in there. The structure itself is about four feet inside tall and maybe six feet on the outside maybe eight feet wide. But anyway, so I was I was saving this particular area because I thought if if there's any you know, bigfoot around whatever, that that would be interesting to see if there's any sign of them.

13:05 I got about i'd say, ten to fifteen feet from that little wood structure and I got grunted at, like huffed at or grab No, it was it a grol. It was more of a of a grunt, like two grunts, and it was it was so kind of like loud and that I felt it in my like in my chest, and I've never heard anything like that, and and it really it really shocked me. So I kind of backed up, and I thought, I don't know what to do, like is this my imagination? Then I then I decided, well, I'm just going to I'm going to go home, just walk back home, because there's no way I'm going to continue to go any further if it is some kind of a you know. I didn't think it was a bear, but it could have been. I didn't know what. I have no idea at the time, I had no idea what it would be. So I started to walk back home and I got hit by this weird, this terrible feeling of like vertigo. Oh and a little bit of nause but not not really.

14:03 I was just completely disoriented. I have found out, you know now that it was most likely infrasound is what I was hit hit by. It was so just like I said, just so disorienting, and I thought, oh my gosh, I don't what's happening to me? Am I having a stroke or a heart attack or you know, brain on yours? What is happening? I was? I was so scared. And then the feeling to me. So that was maybe thirty seconds. I'm guessing. I don't know that I had that terrible feeling and then it left. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that last? That last part we had about a weird interference, something about like it me. Oh, okay, did I say it hit all right? Let me see what was I was I talking about being hit by the infrasound. Yeah, okay, all right, okay, so what I find what I feel now or you know what I come to find out It was most likely for sound. This feeling hit me and it was about only for about thirty seconds, I would say, just to guess, and then that feeling instantly it just left me and I was completely normal. I had no you know, none of the symptoms. And I thought, well, oooh, that's good thinking. Maybe it was just you know, just pure like adrenaline my nerves because I was scared. I was shaken a little bit, and I realized that I was not walking the way to my house.

15:26 There is a there's a kind of a deep ravine between my our property line and the woods, and I thought, oh my gosh, if I would have kept walking, would I've fallen down in that ravine? I don't know, but I just couldn't believe, like, wow, I was going the complete wrong way. So I corrected my course start you know, heading back toward my house. And then I get that feeling again and it was just completely you know, the same wave as before, disoriented vertigo. I felt like, oh my gosh, am I going to make it? And I again started a panic, like, what's happening to me? I just need to make it to my to my home. I don't want my family like to be, you know, not knowing what has happened to me. They knew where I was, and but so they could have would have eventually found me. But again, I don't know if I'm having a heart attack or a stroke or whatever. So I was able to see like the roofline of one of our outbuildings that we call it Harport, and so I just kept walking toward that. I thought, just keep you know, keep focused on that. So walk toward that, and then eventually, I mean, that's not I wasn't even that far we're talking about within a minute, I made it to our property line and then the feeling completely left. I mean it was like it just went. It was gone. It was like a wave that just went away, and I was completely normal. I know that some people they have side effects, but I didn't have anything. I mean, it was nothing, nothing. And I was kind of excited at that point to tell my family that I had been grunted at, and so I went, I'm walking down to my house and then I realized that my phone is dead. So you know, I had no idea when my phone would have

16:57 died. It was fully charged when I went out into the woods, and so it should have been okay, but you know, I again, I didn't know. I was just so excited. So I go down and plug it in. You know, it's charging, and I'm telling my family, and my husband and my daughter are like, yeah, okay, sure you know you got grunted. Okay, okay, mom. Then the phone when you know it was enough for me to check it. I found out that I was. I was able to get that grunt, those two grunts or huffs or whatever I did. My phone was filming at that time, so I was excited about that. It's very it was very faint, but I still, you know, it was it was audible. People you could they could hear it. And so that was I guess just the That was the start of really everything ramping up. Within a few days, we found large footprints in our yard fifteen inches eighteen inches, and I found what looked like a knuckle print I found in I guess it was no it was November.

17:56 Then I found what looked like if you've ever heard of like they talk about glyphs and this little with sticks and actually some wood that my husband was using in our renovation. It looked like somebody had made like the shape of a boat under our house. And there's nobody, you know, my husband didn't know anything about glyphs, nor would he do anything like this. Nobody in my family knew so, and I know that, you know, none of us had had made that. Then in within a few days it kind of started to i don't know, kind of changed shape, but it was just it was very just very very weird. Let's see. Then in I'm trying to think, then in late December, so we're still in December of twenty twenty two, I started a bunch of videos like motion or notification on our home security cameras. So they are they're just our low home security. Like I said, we have a perimeter of them, you know, we monitor them. I'll get a notification if there's any kind of movement. So I started to get a bunch I'm talking about like overnight, I would get like twenty you know or more notifications, and that's never happened before. I mean we would get you know, plenty of wildlife, but not not to this, not to you know, never this amount, and I would go and watch the videos, you know, and there's never we never saw like one thing. Typically, you know, you might get like a see the tail end of a deer or a cat or whatever. We've had cougar one time,

19:29 but but this was like literally nothing. And so I thought, I wonder if they're you know, if they're actually create like causing this and they're either not showing up or they're just too fast, Like is this possible? So I decided that I was gonna listen to them, like manually, try to you know, listen if I if I got a no notification, So that's what I would do. Then then I found out that I could, which I didn't know this, that I could actually record if I if I too. So what I started to do is I would if I got a notification, I would just you know, log into that camera and press record and see what happened. So what I what started to happen is I was getting these noises like loud like snorting and grunting and things that actually, I mean it sounded like gorillas or I guess that would be the closest thing, you know, like silver backed gorillas or large like apes you know, the exact same kind of sounds. One night, we there was this sound that we thought, what is it. It's like it was like a vibrating, like a vibration noise and like percussive like sounds. Then I realized, well, my husband actually said that sounds like maybe something's messing with the down spouts, like they were blowing into the down spouts. And so so since then, we don't have that, you know, that much of that like consistently, but we have it on a regular basis, to the point where I've gotten so much much, so much audio that's that's pretty you know, it's

21:03 like pretty compelling. And I did I was able to have some of it the I feel like the best quality stuff, you know, that I was able to get run through like a spectrogram program, so it showed that it was outside of the normal range of you know, like human or animal sounds, which is like so anything like about six hundred hertz, and so I've gotten quite a lot of those, and and I now it's to the point where, so you know, now we're like two years into this, it's to the point where they will occasionally show up on on the cameras like a visual you know, visual sightings. It's not great, but you know, it'll be something brief or if I can, I will go and visit them in the woods. Not on a regular basis, but because I don't want to bug them. But I have seen them now and they've started to like show up in my you know, in my my videos or photos. Sometimes I on the advice of people that kind I have had, you know, have been in habituation situations like this, I'll go in and you know and say, hi, I'm here, and if anybody wants, I say, if anybody wants to, you know, show up on camera, or one wants to get their picture taken, you know, just show me. And and I've been successful as far as visual sightings. The first one that I saw was in December of late December of twenty I guess would have been twenty twenty two. Yeah, And it was this. It was something that was sitting next to a tree. I got I was I was getting like crouching

22:37 down next to a tree in the woods. I was getting the feeling and I've never had this before that I was being watched and you know, people will say that, and so I just took my camera out and I or my phone and I was VI and I started a video and I thought, I can see something sitting there. I thought that I could see something sitting there. I walked closer and din with my camera and I thought, no, that's just like a It looks just like a like a stump. Because because it looked if it was a face, the face, the skin on the face would look like tree bark. And so I just kept filming. But I thought, no, that's that's just got to be a stump.

23:19 You know, filmed it a little bit, but then I then I kind of forgot about it. And then two weeks after that, I was reviewing the video and I thought, oh my gosh, like you can see the thing move like it moves, So that was something that was you know, like a living whatever it was, it wasn't tree bark. So I went back at out and I and found the tree and I was able to take a picture that it was There's there was nothing there, There was nothing sitting. So there was something sitting there, you know, the day that I had had taken that video, that first taken the video, So that was the one that I would say that I first kind of saw, but that was you know, just through my through my phone lens. Then in probably maybe a year ago in June. Last June, I was doing my little visit where you know, out there where I just kind of peek in and there's an area that I can look into. It's about sixty yards sixty to eighty yards away, you know, portions, portions of it are sixty and then you know the furthest is eighty yards away where I think that their most active. They kind of like hang out there during the day to you know, just to sleep. And I and I think that there's maybe some that are sitting around watching and you know, to protect the rest of of the what I call like a clan. And so one day, like I said last June, I thought, now this, and this is with my naked eye, and I thought that literally looks like one sitting there and like it has something like it's holding something. And then it stood up and I could see clearly. Now again this is about sixty yards away, so I could

24:52 see it, but it wasn't like I could see, you know, completely defined features, but I knew that it was something, you know, and it wasn't any kind of an animal or human. It was solid black. It stood up and it was holding a baby, like a little solid black baby, and it's like it kind of like hitched its hip up so I could see the baby, and I just was like, oh my god, it was so honored, and I said, thank you for showing me your baby. It's so cute. This this creature was was thin, so I don't think that it definitely wasn't an adult. Maybe six to seven feet tall. I'm not sure. I've I've I don't feel comfortable going directly to that area to recreate what I saw because it's just too close. Like I said, this is the area where they're always at, and I don't want to.

25:40 I don't, you know, I don't want to go into their home. So I'm going to guess about six seven feet tall but mostly thin, possibility of breast, but I'm not positive one. Like I said, solid solid black hair. The skin on the face was very was also very dark, not black, but very dark or maybe gray. And the her her hair, I felt like it was a female, young female. Her hair and her head stuck like straight out all around as if like somebody had like as she had like a fur hood on is the only thing I can, you know, think of to describe it. It was kind of like a little bit comical. But and so that was that was, like I said, that was the second, I guess the third if you're counting the baby one that I saw. The the final one that I saw was last August and I was filming an area that is right alongside of our house where towards dusk, they will kind of start to come out. It's in the tree line and they'll they'll, you know, they'll they'll start to come out, and you can't see them like straight on. It's like if I'm out we're in the front yard or way down in the backyard, you'll see movement.

26:53 But I thought, well, I'm gonna just walk along and have my you know, my phone recording and see if I can get anything. And then I got to an area where there's like a brush brush prior to the woodline, and I thought, oh, I'm just gonna kind of peek in here with my phone. It was completely pitch black, and I thought, I'll just stick my phone in here. And I wasn't expecting anything, you know, I wasn't expecting to see anything. So I stick my phone in there and as my phone adjust to the you know, to the to the dark, I see one sitting there about six feet from me. It I I just I screamed, and I and ran into my house and I couldn't believe that I could run that fast anymore. It just shocked it, It just really it just shocked me. I was so shocked. I never expected that.

27:48 I think I also shocked the the sasquatch. It was sitting with its like knees gathered up and it was like hugging its knees. But it also but it had its arms around the top of its knees. Okay, so its knees are completely bent and like I said, almost like hugging its knees and the you know, like I said, hugging its kneee and it had its and and all I could see was from the the top of the nose and the eyes like up, I couldn't see the rest of the face. When we got when we made eye contact, it immediately like put its head down, like it hit its eyes, which I thought was like now in hindsight, so it was like adorable that I didn't feel scared at all.

28:32 I felt like, I mean, I was scared at the time, I was shocked at the time, I didn't. I wasn't like terrified that it was going to hurt me. I felt like it was as intimidated or like shocked, and you know, of me seeing it as you know, as I was of it. It was auburn in color, and like with auburn with brown, it looked very much to me like the thing I could I immediately thought, was like, oh my gosh, like Chewbacca, because it had very long hair hanging from it like its arms, you know, both from both of its arms, I could see that hanging down on either side. Its head was was rounded on top, I mean slightly cone shape, but not not anything like you know, like say the paddy, like the patty, you know, creature it was. It was more a little bit more round it, but it was still had a little bit of a cone shape more than a human. And it's the it had. I don't know if it was white hair around where its eyes were or if it was just the skin was white, but I do remember distinctly like two round circles of white and then and that's pretty much all that I can I you know that I that's the only thing that I can remember, and so that was that was the last. Like I said, up close sighting. I still we still continue to get audio pretty with a regular maybe once since a month.

29:55 Last night was was I had a situation that was pretty cool. I was on a podcast talking about about Bigfoot and it was pretty loud. I and I was in my at my desk, which is which faces which has a big window that faces the woods, and now I have reading glasses on, so I had no I couldn't see any distance, you know whatsoever. When I was done with the podcast, and like I said, it was it was. There was a lot of laughing on the podcast. It was really loud, like we were having a great time. And so what I'm wondering is if that kind of caught their attention. This is the area where I said, they will kind of start to congregate at dusk, you know, in the in the woodline where you can see movement, And they did that all last summer, and now you know we're heading into you know, it's starting to state like a lot you know, pretty late here, and so I guess they're going to do it again. But so last night, when I was done with the podcast, I took off my reading glasses and I thought, wow, that looks like I see movement, like seeing movement in that in the woodline. I wanted to go grab my binoculars because my family got me some high power binoculars for my birthday. But I thought, you know, if I'm just gonna I'm just going to start to record, because if they're standing in there, I don't want to miss anything. And I could. I really thought that I could see one standing there, possibly holding a baby, like a little baby. That one was also solid black,

31:26 as was the baby. So I just started a record and just you know, regular with my with my iPhone, and then I went to get my binoculars. By the time I got back, it was I couldn't see it. It was like, well, wait, maybe I maybe I'm seeing things because all I could see I could see where they were standing, but now it was just solid like black like and I could see back through the trees. So I thought maybe it was just you know, like an optical illusions, and I just kind of forgot about it. I made dinner, you know, I was watching TV with my family, you know whatnot, and then then when I went to bed, I thought, oh, I want to review that video. And then when I reviewed the video, I was like, oh my gosh, there's definitely you could see a large black one standing there holding a little black baby. So I reviewed a couple times, and then I put it on my YouTube channel, which is really small but it's and and so people could see that and and I've gotten some pretty good feedback. I also have a Facebook page that I started right around the time when I started to have a lot of activity here. It was it's it started out as like a local page for you know, for people, local people, and it kind of just branched out from there. It's called No Drama, Bigfoot, Encryptids and I. And so that's I've I've been able to learn a lot just through other people's you know, sightings and circumstances.

32:45 So that's I guess that's pretty much much it. You know, in a nutshell, you've got a lot going on, for sure, harb, Yes, yeah, a lot going on. Have definitely have some questions for you. Have you ever looked into having like a some kind of audio recorder on your property or maybe like some something that would give you like a thermal way to look at a thermal out there. Yeah, Well, my son in law he had a pretty good thermal. Now he's from Pennsylvania, but he was here visiting around in November. Our youngest daughter got married, so they were here visiting for They were here for ten days and we went out like every night, you know, trying to get any sort of We didn't get anything on his thermal except one night there were two It was almost like two round balls, you know, of heat signature that we could see. But that was that was it, And it wasn't anything where you know, you would say, oh, wow, definitely that's something, you know, I think, but I don't have one myself. I'm hoping to, I'm you know, hoping to eventually, you know, get one of those. I have a feeling that if this was something, I can't imagine what else would have been in the you know, in where we saw this, in this tree line, I don't know what else would have been in there that were you know, that would be two looks like two heads walking around, you know. Was it certainly wasn't humans, and it was pitch black. And

34:16 then the other thing is what we're Oh, I did get a little recorder and and I and I've stuck that out. I got that from my birthday last year. Stuck that out a few times overnight, but I I didn't really get anything, you know, And and I got one that is not like activated by sound. Because people that have that do you know, do this regularly that record. They said it's better to just keep it going, you know, all night long and then see what you get. And I haven't gotten really anything. I seem to have the best luck with getting the audio through through the cameras, and I don't know, I what I what I do is several nights a week, I start about twelve thirty, you know, in the morning, and then I go till about three thirty and just off and on all kind of we have four cameras. I'll do like round robin, you know, just check all the four cameras periodically. And that's where I've gotten the best results. But I do I'm going to continue with the you know, with the handheld. It's just you know, you have to listen that to eight hours of really nothing, you know. So oh, I absolutely know how that is. And it can just it can be my numbing to go through stuff, but I mean it can be really worth it too. It's just it can be quite be your deal to go through it. I've got a few questions. I want to make sure I hit here. So from the Patreon that we have for Big Fist Society,

35:47 I'm going to take this question, maybe tweak it a little bit, so Scott Sure. Scott was wondering if if you actively engage in habituation activities with the Bigfoot, and I mean you did bring up that phrasing yourself already, so I'm curious, maybe are you putting out food or are there any gifting scenarios in play? I have not. I don't feed I What I have done as far as that, as far as you know gifting is there is an area that right inside the I guess you'd say right inside the woods, so I don't have to go deep. Is there is an occasionally occasionally I'll leave like a bag of apples or or like one time I had like a French bread that I had put you know in there. But this is with very you know, not on a regular basis, because I don't want to feed them. I feel like that's not safe. I don't feel like it's it's fair to them, you know. So it's only this will only be as a gift situation, you know, not something that I'm like actively feeding them. And I've also put out things like like Marti Gras beads that I hung in the trees, which they did nothing. I mean, that wasn't even touched. I put some little tiny like the yellow rubber ducks. I put a few of them out last summer and they were gone, they took they were gone. And right now there's a little wooden doll that that is has like a cute I don't know, just it's like an old fashioned doll.

37:17 It's not an antique or anything, you know, but a little wooden doll that I put out with a sparkly hair bow. That was one of my daughters from when she was she was a cheerleader. And I have those. They get moved around, but they're not taken. But that's the extent, you know of it. I I want to do a little bit of a gifting, you know, but I don't want to you know, make a pest of myself or you know, like anything like that. I just wanted to be hey, you know, I want to be a good neighbor to you or whatever. You know. Yeah, absolutely, no It definitely does. And you know, the whole leaving food out, it's it's that you usually what happens is that there's a point where it stops happening from the property owner, and then that's when you hear the stories of there could be issues right, yes, yes, definitely, yeah, but it's a lot of that. You know, it gets really, it can get really, it can go bad really quickly. Oh absolutely, And it sounds like you're thankfully you're aware of that and what could happen, and you're playing it smart for sure. Scott was also asking prior to purchasing the home, were you aware of any other or prior Bigfoot history in the area. Is that something I've ever can out? Now? I know I was aware of history only there are two BFRO reports within Oh, I mean, okay, if you're going to go within like ten square miles, there's probably five or six within

38:51 our house, maybe within five square miles, or there's at least two. One was just just a mile away. There's definitely a history out here. And again with my Facebook page, that was why I first started to have so people could you know, come on and tell us what you're experiencing. And I got quite a few people, you know, joining and giving encounters, so I know that they're here. I just I just just never thought that I think that there's I bet, I think that there's the family of maybe like ten or fifteen that just because of the different ones that I've seen on a regular basis that are here, and I'm sure that they you know that some go off to you know, as far as how food, you know, the food sources go. There's living on the Puget Sound. It's a it's a saltwater like estuary, so there's a lot of a lot of food for them. You know, there's all the shellfish. Of course, there's salmon and whatever, you know, other saltwater fish. And I'm sure that you know, again like that's a food source. We have some there's some creeks that run through the area where they're at, a lot of all kinds like berries and ferns and you know, just a lot of there's a lot of food for them, mosses, you know, all that kind of stuff. Have you ever talked to any of your neighbors about if they're experiencing related activity. We only have one set of neighbors and their their their house

40:21 is pretty close. It's a couple that's a little bit older than us. They're both retired. They had never had any activity. But I feel like the husband wasn't sure that you know, he I'm not really even sure that he at the time believed, you know, in them. His wife she thought. She said that they've had some odd things on their cameras too, but nothing that would definitively you know, like point point to it being bigfoot. She does believe. And now since they they've seen you know, our heard our audio and seen some of the things that I've photos and videos, and so they they're definitely believers now. But but that's really it again. Most it's so rural that most of our neighbors aren't even that close, and you know, and it's like, I don't want to be like going door to door or whatever, you know, or like flagging people down, Hey, you know, have you So Yeah, No, I totally get it, because I mean, you're the person who has to live in that community, and I get it. I know what people have done in similar situations, is Dave, and I mean this would be kind of similar. But you see, if you could do like a town hall meeting type situation.

41:35 But then you're still going to be known as the Bigfoot person, so you have to deal with that as well. So well, I'm also like I, like we had said prior, you know, to to starting the officially starting the interview, I really just I just really want to protect them. I won't have anybody you know, come to come here people where they're at. Would rather if people honestly, like, you know, you know what, if you don't believe me, that's fine, I'm not going to show you where they are. Like that has to remain a secret, because the last thing I would I would be heartbroken if people came, you know, found where they're at and just kind of you know, chase them out or disturb them. And that's really been min just to protect to protect them, you know, I want to be a good neighbor to them. I wouldn't want people coming into my house and you know and disturbing, disturbing me, and that would really yeah, that would really break my heart if I if I found out that they were being disturbed or harmed or scared or whatever in any way. Absolutely so, you've had some pretty close at least the one that was very close you said within six feet would you. So, I'll say it this way, Having that close of a view at them, how or what do you think they are exactly? Did that give you anything like, oh, this looks more like an ape to me, or this could be some human offshoot or I you know what. What is most one of

43:06 the most interesting things to me is that I assumed that they were just big, like you know, apes, like an undiscovered ape species, large, you know, like you know, you look at Patty and you know, sheet like mostly like an ape, I mean an upbraik, you know, nothing like we've ever seen, right, But the ones that I that here, yes, there are some that are very ape like looking. But then there is also some that are very human looking and and some have very Native American almost features. The one, the one that was that I could see last night outside of my you know, my desk window, that looked the baby looked more like ape like. My husband was looking at the video with me, But the big one looked very human looking. And it's it's so it's it's really it's bizarre to me that this is like the same clan, right. But there's some that are solid black, some are you know, auburn brown, there's also a I didn't mention this, there's also a baby that I discovered, and I got a pre that this baby has is has pale skin and bright blue eyes, and the its hair is like very blonde.

44:25 I mean, I thought with the blonde baby, I thought there was like a that's what I thought. I was like, what is this blonde baby doing? Well, a toddler, not like an infant infant, you know, because it had this like shock of blonde, you know, hair, And I thought, what is like it's sitting there by a tree. And then but then I have found out since that when they are first born, they're kind of or like you know, and until I don't know whatever age young they have this like kind of fine, downy hair like all over them. So this baby probably just all of its hair is white, you know, or light like that. That baby so human looking. It's just it's just it blows me away. All they're so diverse looking. So I think that they are as the Oh go ahead, I was just gonna say.

45:13 Not surprisingly, when you started to talk about how baby Bigfoot are in a way human looking, we had some wacky audio stuff come in. Oh my gosh, wild audio interference that's actually something that I've never heard before, and that's really interesting. So you saw that with your own eyes that it was a smaller creature, but it looked very close to what maybe a human child would look like. Yeah, all, I didn't send you that picture because you know, this is like some of this stuffed you Oremia is like so bizarre. Like I know, I sound like a like a looney to like see even saying it, but like this is this was, like I said, I will, I'll send you the picture. It just was.

46:00 It was amazing. I'm and I like, well, I caught sight of it, but I thought, no, this isn't now, you know, and I knew that I got it on video, so I didn't really like, there's no way that there's going to be a baby sitting there looking at me, you know, out in the in the woods, and I mean, you know, broad daylight. It wasn't like and it wasn't it didn't make a noise or anything, and I just it just really really I can't believe how I didn't think that this thing was actually a big foot. I thought it was maybe is it some other sort of like an elemental they say, you know something other than that. I don't know, but it but I but now I know that I really firmly believe it's a big foot.

46:42 I was. I did go out about two or a week I guess it was after I got that. I went with my daughter and I sat in the same spot as this thing was, as this little baby was, And the baby was not as small as I first thought it was. I thought that it was maybe like the size of you'd say, maybe like imagine like a one year old. Okay, it looks older than a one year old, looks more like a four year old. But I was thinking again that it was about the size of a one year old. I was thinking it was much smaller. But when I got out there, like this thing's head was probably just a little bit smaller, you know, than mine, And it was definitely, like I said, it was taller than I thought that. You know that it was so and I and I then got I believe I got a pretty good picture of it. Now this is you know, oh well, I don't know subjective because I can see it, but and some people can see it, but it's certainly not like a crystal clear picture.

47:37 But there was a dark one that was holding it, and it was back in that area that I said, I can look into that's pretty active and you can see that this dark, completely solid black one is holding this baby that's white because you could see its arms and it's that hair sticking out straight, that blonde hair or white hair or whatever sticking out and it's really cute. It's really cute. So I thought, well, yeah, there again that is you know, there you go, that's that's a that's a baby. That's a that's a bigfoot baby. It's not a you know, I don't think that they would be holding an elemental. I don't know. My opinion is that they are a human hybrid, which is I you know, is which is what the the DNA study that that doctor melbouketch him headed up and and the results that they got, you know that the that the mother, the mitochondrial DNA was was female and then the other was the you know, the father's side would be unknown. So I I believe that.

48:38 And I don't know what they are, but I I don't think that they're just the o their death. Certainly not just animals. They're way too smart for that. I know that they interfere with electronics they'll shut the cameras off sometimes when I'm watching, they'll shut the sound off. They'll shut the audio off, but you know, then it comes right back on. We'd light out by our driveway. Like I said, it's we're out in the you know, we're out very rural in the country, so there's no street lights. We have a big up light that is over the our driveway entrance, and they started to turn that off randomly overnight. And what else they you know, like the cameras. I if I'm watching in one camera, I can see that they're causing the other camera to flash because with infrared, you can see the circle when it goes on, like a human eyes can see the red circle, and I'm sure they can. But there's also like a light that it flashes if you have that, you know, if you have that ability, and I'm sure they do. Animals would have and you can see that through the other infrared cameras and I'll see like the you know, the other light like flashing, flashing, flashing, but there's no indication of movement coming from that camera. So I believe that they know how to do that. I don't know how, but I think that they you know can have nose abilities. I don't know. Well, there's something I'm going to ask you directly, kind of already chat about a little bit. But so it sounds like there has not been a researcher on the property. No, okay, no, gotcha. Yep. Yeah, but there have been other

50:15 yourself, other family members that have experienced stuff. Mm hmm, yes, yeah. My daughter one night, this was actually before I was grunted at. It was probably six months before that she was she came, she was coming home from work, pulling in the driveway, and she got out of her car and she saw these bright blue like she said it. She knew that they were eyeballs because or eyes because she saw them blink, but she said they were like massive and she was terrified. She said, Mom, there's something like standing in the woods and it's like looking at it was looking at me, and she said, and it had big blue eyes and and that were like shining at and you know it's it's black, so it wasn't like eyeshine, like they were self illuminated and and she's you know, and she saw that and she was like terrified. Then, you know, for a while, like anytime she'd go outside, and I, you know, one of us would have to go with her. She's twenty four now, but you know, she was. She's still very, very scared at night to go outside because of that. That really scared her. So she's not on board with seeing any you know, any of my any of the evidence or whatever. My husband and my son in law they liked, you know, they like to see it, and they've also seen things and heard things.

51:31 But yeah, but that is one thing that she was the first one to see something like that. I've never seen anything like that, but I have a feeling that it was it was one of them. That's that's a characteristic of what people say, you know, that they also experience with them. Do you have any situations where there's something's hitting the side of your house or anything like that. We I have not experienced that, except that they will like I had said about messing with the down spouts. I also think that there are I guess it would be juveniles that it literally sometimes at night, late at night, it sounds like there's something or some things running around on the roof of our house, not over like my husband and I.

52:28 Our bedroom is on the one side of the house, so this is on the other side of the house, and it's very close to it's right, you know, right in the area where that lines the forest, the wood, you know, the tree line. So and I can hear that on the cameras at night, and I don't know what else it could be. I don't have I I'm too scared to, you know, go out and actually look. But I don't know what else it would because that's exactly what it sounds like. Also, I have heard some nights it's like there whatever, some is banging, almost like it's trying to play music, like it's like using things as like like the down spouts as drums. It's like just this banging and I don't know what else, you know, there's nothing else that it could be. My husband and my son in law were putting drywall in our garage. I believe it was sometime last year, and I believe it was like early summer, maybe late spring, and a few days later, in the middle of the night, I get this this audio that it it sounded like they were almost mimicking what the sound was, you know.

53:32 The it'll be like a I think it's like an impact driver drill that it'll be like a like it almost like makes a noise, and then you know the and then the like hammering noises, and and I I said to my husband, listen to this. This is like three o'clock in the morning and it's up it was up on top of our car port. And he said, you know what that sounds like. And then he was the one that said that sounds like when Noah and I were were installing the drywall. And I'm like, oh my gosh, So you know, I that's the kind of things that almost like the mimicking sounds they I've heard the mimic oh owls. I get the owl sound so often, like that's at least once a week that it'll sound maybe about like, you know, five owls are out in the in the woods, sound sounds like ducks. I think that I'd sent you an audio clip of of them mimicking they mimic ducks. First of all, like there are there's no ducks close. We don't have any farms that are that close that you would hear, you know, ambient noise of any farm animals. There are water foul you know that it would be out in the in the water, in the in the puget sound, but they don't make they don't typically make noise at night. Plus the fact I would know I could hear you know, they're at the distance of where the water is versus almost like right next to the house and now, and I believe that the audio that I sent you was like they're mimicking ducks, but not they're not doing that. Well, yeah I can. I can try to play it right now if you want, if you're okay with that, if it works, yeah, h h that's it. The first time I heard

55:45 that, I was like, what is going on here? It sounds like some sort of like it's it's happy duck. Then it goes into like demon pig duck and like I'm just gonna I'm gonna play the first part again just real quick. That's that's so weird, barb, Like I've never heard that, and you know, it's almost like like I'm gonna be a duck. Oh forget it. I'm not I'm not doing a good job. I don't want to do this anymore. Almost right like right now, I forget it. Yeah. At the end, it's it's funny like because it's like at the very end, it's almost like well, I messed that up. I'm not going to try it again, and I check it out. There's also which I know now just from hearing this one, that is I don't know if it's the alpha male, I'm not sure, but it's he is a very distinctive deep sound and it's like a cook like a I don't know, I can't you know, but that's like in the middle. So what were they were several of them trying to mimic ducks. I don't know, you know, And he was kind of guided. I have no idea, but there is that distinct like look like a like a grunt in the middle that you know, that I can identify. But and I believe was that one of them that I sent you the spectrogram? I'm not sure because I mean, I know that I've had that the ducks sounds. I got those a lot of those last summer, and I know that one of them. We

57:17 the guy that had amplified the audio. He ran it through because he said, I have to see, like is this real, real like real ducks or what? And what it was above the you know, the the range that that a regular duck would be. He said, no, that's that's not a duck. Have you ever reached out to do you know who David Ellis from the Olympic Project is? Yeah, I do, and I and I haven't. I haven't done that yet. I and I and I should because you know, we I mean, I know a lot of the same people now, and it's it's like, I really, you know, as you can see, like I'm very new to this and and I and I still feel like I'm now getting to the point like, well, maybe I have something, Maybe I have something that I want to give him. I don't want to. I would never want to be that person that would be like, oh, look at the great you know evidence I have and then the person's like, oh, this is terrible evidence, you know, Like, no, you don't, I don't know. It's it's just it's a weird. It's a I can't believe I'm in this situation. It's very weird.

58:15 But it is to the point where yeah, I should, I should reach out to him. Yeah, you know, I might recommend it. Speaking of so, you talked about some sounds that you heard them and it was like, oh, that sounds like that. Have there ever been other situations where it's like sounds that don't belong in your area. We one night there was a it sounded like a horse, which there wouldn't be a horse. I mean, we have horse not close, you know, but there wouldn't be a horse like standing in my yard, like just not not like a you know, when they'll exhale and they almost like like kind of like flap their lips that like I don't mean, I don't I can't even do it right, like they're exhaling, and it made that noise, and and one of the guys you know that I that had listened to it, he's like, do you is that a horse? And I said, we don't.

59:07 Definitely not a horse. We don't have we don't have horses, and and it's just that one like exhale and then yeah, so there have been things like that. The one who I said, like is I believe is the alpha male. Possibly he sometimes sometimes sounds like like a like a pig or like a wild boar, but there there are no wild boars in western Washington state, so definitely not that. And there's no pigs close to us. We don't, like I said, we don't have any there's no farm animals close enough to have any sort of ambient noise. I but I'll tell you now, this is something that we do have. But like the tree the frogs that will start to really start to sing in the spring, we do have them not close. There is a swamp that's maybe maybe a mile away, so you'll hear them from a distance. But since this, since I've started to you know, to do you know, to record the audio overnight, I have heard very close what sounds like these frogs and almost like communicating with each other. And and one of the one of the I think I sent you the audio that it sounded like a bigfoot of sasquatch was communicating with the frogs. Because you'll hear the frogs and then it stops, and that's like he's making his grunting and then the frog will almost like speak back to him. And yeah, you can try to play it if you want, because if I don't, I'm going to get just reamed in the comments.

1:00:32 Okay, okay, okay. You know it's just so weird, like when you know, like if frogs, if they're going to sing, they just sing, they just all you know, they don't stop, they don't pause. Four And I just thought that was really interesting. All right, let's let's give it a try here, get it y. Yeah, it's

1:02:55 fairy. It's very strangest. I have not gotten any other audio over the years like that. Wow, that's good. Yeah, I mean I do not, I don't. I just you know, I don't even know what to say. Yeah, it definitely feels like there's some response to the frogs, Like I can totally hear what you were saying. It's it's very weird, yes and all here. Sometimes when I'll go out and you know, to visit them in the woods, I will hear like a singular frog making that sound. And now this will be you know, when it's way too cold for a frog to be out, like this was in the in the middle of the you know winter that I heard that frog noise, and so I'm just thinking that's probably one mimicking, you know, I don't know what else to think. The other thing, which I don't know if you heard that, was the one where on that night I got those different sounds and it was one night and it was very close to each other. So the guy that had amplified it and enhanced it, he just did it all.

1:03:59 And you know, one recording and then so yet it separated by that tone. But the last one, I don't know if you could hear the whistle, it's like a two tone like and then there's another one, which that's but unfortunately that one was so distant. But it was like like almost there were two you know, that were like one was saying, hey, here I am, and then the other one was like, oh here I am exactly I And that just blew me away because like wow, right, like what I mean, what animal? You know? That? Just to me, that just shows it just you know, really just shows intelligence. I mean definitely wasn't a bird m something that started to I've noticed it's coming out in different areas of the community. Do you ever hear anything that sounds like, I guess singing in a way. No, I well, I have heard this isn't really singing like it almost sounds like a flute. But I haven't gotten any good recording you know, of that. But I did get one. I did get an audio several audios where it's almost like a cooing.

1:05:09 It sounds like they're like something is cooing. But but no, I haven't gotten anything that you know, like I know, I know what you're talking about where they'll have it literally sounds like like someone singing. I haven't gotten that. It's weird. It's actually, well, it'll already be out after this gets out. But it's in the newest small town monsters about the Olympic project. They talk about they talk about that and then any WAC area X guys. They're a podcast. They just had a episode of the Alton Higgins where he described hearing that as well. And this is in southeast Oklahoma, so it's very interesting that different parts of the country are reporting that this phenomenon is being heard. Do you ever hear anything like baby cries? No, I have not heard that, Thank god. Yeah I've not heard that.

1:06:00 Yeah, that would freak me out. Car doors shutting or rusty gates or gates shutting, anything like that. No, No, I haven't heard anything. I had. I heard one. I did get a recording. It was in the middle of the day of one that sounded like almost like I thought maybe like like hydraulic breaks. Okay, like when they'll make like a loud squeaking noise, you know, And and my husband and I were out on the deck. It was last I think it was June in the middle of the day, like Saturday whatever. And my husband actually said, like, what's that noise? And I said, what what do you mean?

1:06:40 He said, wait, hear that? And I said, I don't know. Is that? Like, I don't know what is that? He? And I said, this sounds like break, like breaks are like a truck. He said no, and he said what He said, why don't you you should start recording this? And I'm like, okay, because I knew that he would know. He's a he has like a you know, master mechanic, and so he would know. I thought that was pretty cool. But that's the only time I've ever heard no, I've actually heard that, not that like I don't even know what you'd want to call it. It's not a whoop. It was just more of like a like a whistle call. I've only heard that in the middle of the day. Somebody had suggested that it was a female that was watching and something was coming into, you know, into the area that she was watching, and she was kind of like walking through because you can hear it moving, like alerting the rest of the clan. You know that something's here and and you know, be alert. I don't know, I'm again I don't know. I'm sure that you've heard this Year Sounds by with Ron moorehead. Have you ever heard anything like that? No, I have heard what and I believe I don't know if I had sent you this audio. It's it's like a like a whispered conversation I think between you know two or or possibly more. And I've heard the that which I think is at Alpha male. He almost like he's counting or saying word like there's words being said, but it's not No, it's nothing like nothing like the Sierra Sounds. I haven't heard anything like that.

1:08:05 All right, Yeah, you did send me that video. I took the audio out of it, so I'm going to try to play it if that's all right. Yes, we'll see how it translates across. Ye, that's

1:10:15 very interesting. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it. It's very very weird. And what's what's what's pretty cool is that like I could not hear most of that. What I've discovered is that there's a sound that they make. And I they were taking blocks of wood and like banging them together, but it's actually it's a sound that they're that he I think that you know one or more are making with their like mouth or or I don't know, almost like their throat, and it literally sounds like blocks of wood because that sound was happening so frequently. And then we would go down like the next morning, like to look and like nothing's moved. Like I said, we're renovating, so they're are you know, there's wooden stuff and there's nothing. There wasn't anything that was ever moved. And then with having when you have somebody take and amplify it, it's like, oh my gosh, look at all this other noise that's going on. So a lot of yeah, a lot of that. I didn't even realize that that that was happening, you know that that was what you could was going on. It's it's so bizarre.

1:11:23 Has so over the last few years. Have you noticed that these circumstances affect your dreams at all? Yes, yes, I've had just last night I had I had a dream about them. I haven't had I haven't dreamt about them. But that's only I would say, that's only been maybe the last let's say six months, and and it's very they're very like profound, you know, dreams that you really remember. It's not it's I Some people have said they're possibly like preparing me to, you know, to see them, because I hadn't seen anybody any before I saw the first before I had my first dream, I hadn't seen any and they don't they don't look I don't know, they don't look in the dream like what they what I see them.

1:12:15 But I mean they're similar, but it's can you describe, like what's the big what is the difference there? Well, like the dream I remember or like for last night, it was, I dreamt that it was like little ones that I could see them running around in like in my dream it was our yard, but not that's not what our yard looks like. But they were more like like a car almost like what a cute little cartoon, I guess, or you know, they had the AI of what a baby, you know, artificial intelligence of what a baby bigfoot looks like, you know, completely adorable. They looked more like that in my dream. Now, the one that was was the most profound dream that I had was that this baby crawled out of this hole in the ground, which there wasn't a hole in the ground. They just kind of like crawled out of it, and the baby the baby was probably I shouldn't say, but it was probably let's say, like the size of maybe like a five a six year old, not even a five, like a six year old. And it's walking toward the window. I'm standing in a window looking out, and it's walking toward me. And then an adult like crawls out of this hole and it's looking at me like with almost like a mean look on its face, like it's mad, and it's like saying to the baby, like to stop, like stop, get back, like stop stop, but the baby keeps walking toward me. The they both looked, oh gosh, like they were brown.

1:13:45 They both had like very like cone shaped heads. But but oh, but their faces were like a lot their faces were very human, and I mean, much more human than I would say, like the ones that I that I see. But I don't see them again, I don't see them that well that defined, you know, So maybe they do look like that. I don't know, because I remember the the I assumed was the father looked so like he was so mad. He had like such a mad, like a human man like mad look on his face. So I don't know. I hope I'm describing it well enough it's bizarre. Does that make sense? Yeah, No, it definitely makes sense. Is there any Is there any direct direct communication to you at all in those dreams? Ever? No, It's it's more it's more of a okay, yes, in a sense that they're acknowledging me and they want me to see them, like with the baby, little one walking toward the window and the you know, like the daddy being like no and like looking at me like a me face like don't I don't want my baby near? You know. The one that I had before that was there were a lot that just kept showing up, like walking through the yard like looking at me, and I believe that I was inside I don't, I don't. I don't remember specific I know that like they weren't that close to me. It wasn't like they were coming up to me, you know, and like trying to hold my you know, touch my

1:15:16 hand or anything like that. It was more they're looking at me, and they're acknowledging that I'm you know, my presence and and and I'm seeing them more in that kind of a you know, of of a communication. I guess gotcha to these dreams or communication communications ever happened during the daytime when you're awake. No, no, no, yeah, that's good. Sometimes it can from what I've heard different reports. Yeah, it's such an interesting situation that you've got going on. There's a lot of stuff that you are experiencing. Are you ever in a situation where you feel threatened at all? It sounds like that really doesn't happen. No. No, I've gone into I've gone into the woods, and I felt like, oh, this is not a good time, you know, like this is not a good time right to be here, like a feeling of dread or like sometimes I'll get like a feeling of like sadness or like that's like, wait, this is not coming from me. You know, this is not from my emotions. So I will you know, I'll leave, like definitely if I get that feeling of like, oh, you don't belong here. But it was Monday.

1:16:30 I went in and just briefly, you know, looking around. It was a beautiful day, and I thought I'll just walk in, walked around just a little bit, and and I got this feeling of like, oh my gosh, like such like joy and great and just such a feeling of of like being grateful. And I was so thankful for everything that was going on, like oh my gosh, this is amazing, like such bliss and it just came on me. So I don't know if that was them putting that emotion on me. I don't know, because I mean, it wasn't that I was unhappy. I was just like normal. I was neutral, you know, going in like oh, I wonder what I'm going to see today, if I'm going to see anything, and then that feeling just like wow, that was such a euphoric feeling. I am like, maybe I should feel back in there. I don't know, but that's what I would Yeah, that's what I would say. I've never felt I've never felt threatened or like there's any sort of aggression. But I'm also you know, if I feel that I'm not welcome or like, I don't know, like if I get that day when I got grunted at, you know, I don't know.

1:17:30 Maybe they're saying hello, but maybe they're saying get out. And I don't want to do anything, obviously to make them mad or to make them feel that I'm being any sort of a threat or anything like that to them. You know. Wow, Barb, this has been a very interesting conversation, and it's just it's crazy to think that. I mean, just everything is happening right now, current day, you know, it's actively happening. I agree, Yeah, I honestly, I I you know, I think and I don't. I you know, it's not like I'm out there, you know, telling a bunch of people. It's it's it's like this is this is this is bizarre stuff. You know, there's a limited amount of people. Thank goodness, I have my little community now, you know that I can share some of this stuff with because it's a lot. It's it's weird. Absolutely. Do you have any advice for for people out there where they have just found out that hey, I've got something else on my property and I'm not quite sure what to how to deal with this. Yeah, I guess, let's see. I guess I would just kind of treat obviously, you know, safety is paramount, and try to show like a mutual respect, like set and attention you know, right off, like right from

1:19:00 the get go, like you're going to be a good neighbor. But I don't want them to do anything that is going to make me mad, you know, hurt you know, hurt me, hurt my dog hurt my family and I wouldn't and I'm not going to do that to them either, So just if they can just kind of go about it with that. I don't I don't agree with like, you know, people that feed them constantly. But again that's I know, hey, people have, there's different schools of thought and whatever. I would not suggest that. And I guess, you know, if they're doing something that's that's scaring you or making you mad, people say just go out and tell them to please stop it. But I've not had that yet. So yeah, fortunately I've not had had that that that's I guess, that's I guess would be my you know, my only advice. I'm I'm so new and so I don't feel like, you know that I'm certainly qualified to give anybody any kind of I think great advice.

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