Our Property is Surrounded in Washington State!

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Welcome to the Big for Society.
In this episode, I talked to Bob

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Hartman about her current day habituation on
her property in the Puget Sound area of

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Washington State. If you're experiencing something
like this on your property, please reach

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out to me immediately after this episode, and if you'd like to be on

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Big for Society got the privilege of
talking to Barb Hartman today from Puget

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Sound in Washington State. She's a
listener of the podcast, and we started

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talking about some interesting things that were
going on, and she's going to go

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ahead and share what's going on in
her area. But how's it going tonight,

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Barb? It's going fine. Thank
you, thanks for having metely.

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I've been looking forward to this chat. I have a feeling it's going to

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be a very interesting one. But
you know, I'm going to go ahead

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and give it right over to you, Barb, and go ahead introduce yourself

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anything else we need to know and
share what's going on in your area.

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Okay, all right, great,
Well I am just a mom and grandma

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new grandma and Barbie there, Barb, you there. Hold on, I'm

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having issues here and you are you
still there? Ye? What are you

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coming out of? Hmm? Sorry, hold on, this is so weird.

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Oh my goodness, Okay, hold
on, I'm gonnay, hey,

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bar we're still recording. Okay,
So the last few interviews, it's so

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weird. Right when the person starts
sharing, it's like bam every time just

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cuts out. In this time,
my audio board just took a super dive

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and got stuck in like a I
don't know, it's weird. It's like

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very very strange. Wow. And
it started happening when I was talking to

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this guy who was talking about some
really weird stuff in Tennessee, like he's

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being watched by a black dark van
in his neighborhood and stuff. So oh

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wow. Yeah, but I got
up and running. So yeah, I

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was wondering if like, and you
know, I'm it's it's wild because last

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night when I was on a I
was on a show and then I was

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done, and I saw that there's
some like watching me from the trees,

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and so I'm like, I wonder
if they're doing it tonight. So I

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just asked them to knock it off
and be I don't know, like serious,

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like an unmarked car. No no, no, no, I'm talking

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about like the actual sasquatch, not
not any but not anything like you can

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yeah, yeah, I mean like
yeah, so I don't know, you

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know, it could be complete coincidence, but you know, all right,

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Barb, let's let's try take two. I'm gonna go ahead and we'll get

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right over to you and we'll see
what happens this time. Gotcha? Okay,

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bar are you there? Yes?
Okay, like no, it's going

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to be funny, all right.
So yeah, I'm just going to let

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you go ahead and we'll take it
right from where you're starting to introduce yourself

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and anything else you can go into
what's going on in your area, please,

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Okay? Gotcha? Cool? Okay, you ready for me to start?

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Okay? Okay? All right.
So we moved to Washington State in

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twenty twelve, and we moved to
this house in twenty seventeen. It's was

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a bit of a fixer upper.
I guess we're right on the Puget Sound.

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The house had sat vacant for quite
a long time, and for most

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of the time that it would It
was built in the let's see, early

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eighties, and I think for the
most part sat vacant. The woman that

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we bought it from was she spent
a lot of time in I believe Arizona.

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So anyway, so it did sit
vacant. So we bought it in

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September of twenty seventeen. And the
first sign that we saw was my husband

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found big hue footprints like bear,
not not the animal bear, you know,

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bear foot prints under the house in
some in some gravel. And he's

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more of a skeptic, I guess, you know, definitely more than than

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I was ever was. And but
he said he walked by these these prints

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for a few days and finally said, I have to tell I have to

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tell Barb about this. Although we
had found, or he had found on

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the on our beach, there were
big like boulders that sit that sit way

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down in the in the sand and
the rock, so in the in the

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stones these boulders were like upturned,
and he thought that was kind of odd,

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and then I said, no,
I've heard of them doing things like

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that because it's normally you would need
some kind of like almost heavy machinery to

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move these big things out. So
yeah, so we were I took some

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pictures, and you know, we
just we thought it was kind of neat,

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but we honestly, like I guess, realistic. I didn't think that

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it was you know, that it
was real. I don't even have to,

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you know, describe that. But
anyway, so and we didn't really

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have anything happen, any sort of
anything else, any other signs up until

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we see March. I guess of
twenty two is when we had another kind

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of obvious thing that was weird happened. One of our hillsides got just overnight,

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literally overnight, was just completely dug
up again. It's it's an area

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where the native plants are so compact, and they're so it's a tightly woven

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it's called connect connect berries and the
vines. They're so tightly woven it basically

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holds, you know, holds the
bank up. And part of the hillside

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was just like completely ripped apart.
And we have home security cameras on that

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area and really on the perimeter of
the of you know, our yard.

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So if it was something like a
bear or you know, some thing like

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that, we you know, we
feel that we would have been able to

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see that. But so again just
another kind of a curious thing that happened.

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And then in let's see, in
August of twenty twenty two, that's

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about like fire season, wildfire season
in you know, in the western part

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of the country. And so we
decided that the one side of our house,

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which faces the woods, we really
needed to kind of clean up that

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area that was close to the house. There was a lot of just dry

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you know, under just a bunch
of junk forest junk and dry stuff.

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So we cleaned that up and cut
down some little tiny trees that were you

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know, they were kind of like
dead and just basically fire hazard. So

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about ten days later, we found
this like a large tree break that went

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I think it was about fifteen feet
up. When I'm looking at it right

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now, it's about fifteen feet up
and it's a perfectly healthy tree. We

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had not had any wind, you
know, nothing that that should have caused

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this portion of this tree to break, and then for we close like closely

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inspected it. We discovered that it
was not only broken, it was the

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twist, like a twist right.
And then a few days after that,

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another tree was bent toward that and
and kind of tucked under the first lark

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branch and forming a complete x,
like a perfect X. So at this

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point, this time, that time
in my life, I was really getting

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involved in in you know, kind
of like starting to research a lot about

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Bigfoot. It's something that I've always
been interested in. I watched all the

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documentaries. My dad introduced me to
a legend of Boggy Creek when I was

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a little girl, and you know, he showed me the Patterson Gimlin film.

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So I just was always really fascinated
by the subject. But you know,

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not really knowing if like this is
a cool thing, if it exists,

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but not really knowing if it acts
did. So these were some kind

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of bizarre signs that were happening.
It was almost like things were happening that

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we could no longer like avoid,
you know, like this this may just

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be Bigfoot, you know, living
near us or coming through I was kind

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of of the opinion that maybe it
was just one that was just you know,

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maybe migrating through saw that what we
were doing with the house, Like

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I said, it had sat vacant
prior to us moving in, and so

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I thought that possibly it just some
some you know, somebody was curious about

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what we were doing. So after
that that X was formed, I was

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talking to some people that I knew
through the various bigfoot pages that I you

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know, that I belonged to on
Facebook, and one of them was Mike

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Scott and which and I think that
you know him, Jeremi. I'm pretty

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sure that you do. And he's
a great guy. And I and I

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showed him, I sent him the
picture and I said, what do you

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think? And he's like, I
think that you have some activity because he's

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a researcher and an act of you
know, boots on the ground guy.

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And he said, why don't you
go out and kind of just look around

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in the area that you that I
normally hike through, which is within walking

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distance of my house, and and
it's a very safe you know, I've

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always felt safe there. I know
that it's protected by the people that own

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it. There's never any human activity
or you know, it's it's just very

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we live in a really rural,
rural like remote area, so I just

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always felt safe. And so he
said, just go and check, you

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know, kind of check around in
that area. And he said, if

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you want to see anything, if
you do, you know, he was

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pretty sure that it was bigfoot activity. He said, if you want to

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see anything, what you don't want
to do is do not take your phone

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with you. Like, if you
take your phone with you have it in

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your pocket, you know, don't
have it out like going around filming everything.

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So I thought to myself, well, I don't know if I'm really

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honestly ready. I was not ready
to see anything. So of course I

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took my phone and I what I
did is I put it in a land

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like a pocket, waterproof pocket that
hangs on a lanyard and that I just

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hangs around my neck. And that's
how I'm typically outside, you know anyway,

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in our yard just gardening or whatever, you know, doing yard work.

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So I thought, if there really
are bigfoot here, they would be

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used to seeing me have that.
So I just before I went into the

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woods, I just started, you
know, a press record, and just

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kind of let it go. I
walked around for about an hour and a

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half just looking at some things and
just talking to the forest like I do.

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It's so beautiful. And there was
an area that I was saving for

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last which I had found this wood
structure in December of twenty one, so

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about six months before, you know, prior to this, maybe a little

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bit more than six months spent anyway, prior to this. And it looked

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like I call it like a wood
igloo. It looked like an igloo,

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but made out of sticks and branches
and that like all oven together. I

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found it with my son and my
son in law and we were thinking like,

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this isn't it's two. It didn't
look like it wouldn't be like a

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human structure. There's no certainly not
enough coverage if a human's going to use

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it, you know, for any
kind of shelter, but possibly an animal.

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But we didn't really know how it
could have been made. But we

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didn't really again at that point,
we weren't really thinking that much. This

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is just another little piece of evidence, you know that has added. But

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my son had crawled in it and
he said it could be a den,

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and he felt that there was.
There was an area that was was next

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to a tree and a large tree
so he felt there was an air that

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he said he could have maybe crawled
down in, like it was dug down

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in deeper, but I didn't want
him, I said, and get out

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of there in case there is some
sort of an animal in there. The

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structure itself is about four feet inside
tall and maybe six feet on the outside

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maybe eight feet wide. But anyway, so I was I was saving this

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particular area because I thought if if
there's any you know, bigfoot around whatever,

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that that would be interesting to see
if there's any sign of them.

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I got about i'd say, ten
to fifteen feet from that little wood structure

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and I got grunted at, like
huffed at or grab No, it was

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it a grol. It was more
of a of a grunt, like two

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grunts, and it was it was
so kind of like loud and that I

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felt it in my like in my
chest, and I've never heard anything like

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that, and and it really it
really shocked me. So I kind of

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backed up, and I thought,
I don't know what to do, like

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is this my imagination? Then I
then I decided, well, I'm just

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going to I'm going to go home, just walk back home, because there's

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no way I'm going to continue to
go any further if it is some kind

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of a you know. I didn't
think it was a bear, but it

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could have been. I didn't know
what. I have no idea at the

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time, I had no idea what
it would be. So I started to

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walk back home and I got hit
by this weird, this terrible feeling of

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like vertigo. Oh and a little
bit of nause but not not really.

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I was just completely disoriented. I
have found out, you know now that

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it was most likely infrasound is what
I was hit hit by. It was

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so just like I said, just
so disorienting, and I thought, oh

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my gosh, I don't what's happening
to me? Am I having a stroke

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or a heart attack or you know, brain on yours? What is happening?

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I was? I was so scared. And then the feeling to me.

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So that was maybe thirty seconds.
I'm guessing. I don't know that

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I had that terrible feeling and then
it left. I'm sorry. Can you

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repeat that last? That last part
we had about a weird interference, something

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about like it me. Oh,
okay, did I say it hit all

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right? Let me see what was
I was I talking about being hit by

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the infrasound. Yeah, okay,
all right, okay, so what I

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find what I feel now or you
know what I come to find out It

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was most likely for sound. This
feeling hit me and it was about only

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for about thirty seconds, I would
say, just to guess, and then

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that feeling instantly it just left me
and I was completely normal. I had

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no you know, none of the
symptoms. And I thought, well,

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oooh, that's good thinking. Maybe
it was just you know, just pure

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like adrenaline my nerves because I was
scared. I was shaken a little bit,

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and I realized that I was not
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There is a there's a kind of
a deep ravine between my our property line

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and the woods, and I thought, oh my gosh, if I would

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have kept walking, would I've fallen
down in that ravine? I don't know,

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but I just couldn't believe, like, wow, I was going the

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complete wrong way. So I corrected
my course start you know, heading back

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toward my house. And then I
get that feeling again and it was just

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completely you know, the same wave
as before, disoriented vertigo. I felt

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like, oh my gosh, am
I going to make it? And I

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again started a panic, like,
what's happening to me? I just need

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to make it to my to my
home. I don't want my family like

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to be, you know, not
knowing what has happened to me. They

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knew where I was, and but
so they could have would have eventually found

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me. But again, I don't
know if I'm having a heart attack or

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a stroke or whatever. So I
was able to see like the roofline of

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one of our outbuildings that we call
it Harport, and so I just kept

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walking toward that. I thought,
just keep you know, keep focused on

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that. So walk toward that,
and then eventually, I mean, that's

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not I wasn't even that far we're
talking about within a minute, I made

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it to our property line and then
the feeling completely left. I mean it

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was like it just went. It
was gone. It was like a wave

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that just went away, and I
was completely normal. I know that some

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people they have side effects, but
I didn't have anything. I mean,

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it was nothing, nothing. And
I was kind of excited at that point

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to tell my family that I had
been grunted at, and so I went,

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I'm walking down to my house and
then I realized that my phone is

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dead. So you know, I
had no idea when my phone would have

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died. It was fully charged when
I went out into the woods, and

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so it should have been okay,
but you know, I again, I

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didn't know. I was just so
excited. So I go down and plug

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it in. You know, it's
charging, and I'm telling my family,

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and my husband and my daughter are
like, yeah, okay, sure you

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know you got grunted. Okay,
okay, mom. Then the phone when

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you know it was enough for me
to check it. I found out that

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I was. I was able to
get that grunt, those two grunts or

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huffs or whatever I did. My
phone was filming at that time, so

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I was excited about that. It's
very it was very faint, but I

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still, you know, it was
it was audible. People you could they

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could hear it. And so that
was I guess just the That was the

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start of really everything ramping up.
Within a few days, we found large

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footprints in our yard fifteen inches eighteen
inches, and I found what looked like

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a knuckle print I found in I
guess it was no it was November.

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Then I found what looked like if
you've ever heard of like they talk about

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glyphs and this little with sticks and
actually some wood that my husband was using

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in our renovation. It looked like
somebody had made like the shape of a

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boat under our house. And there's
nobody, you know, my husband didn't

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know anything about glyphs, nor would
he do anything like this. Nobody in

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my family knew so, and I
know that, you know, none of

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us had had made that. Then
in within a few days it kind of

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started to i don't know, kind
of changed shape, but it was just

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it was very just very very weird. Let's see. Then in I'm trying

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to think, then in late December, so we're still in December of twenty

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twenty two, I started a bunch
of videos like motion or notification on our

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home security cameras. So they are
they're just our low home security. Like

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I said, we have a perimeter
of them, you know, we monitor

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them. I'll get a notification if
there's any kind of movement. So I

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started to get a bunch I'm talking
about like overnight, I would get like

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twenty you know or more notifications,
and that's never happened before. I mean

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we would get you know, plenty
of wildlife, but not not to this,

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not to you know, never this
amount, and I would go and

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watch the videos, you know,
and there's never we never saw like one

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thing. Typically, you know,
you might get like a see the tail

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end of a deer or a cat
or whatever. We've had cougar one time,

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but but this was like literally nothing. And so I thought, I

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wonder if they're you know, if
they're actually create like causing this and they're

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either not showing up or they're just
too fast, Like is this possible?

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So I decided that I was gonna
listen to them, like manually, try

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to you know, listen if I
if I got a no notification, So

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that's what I would do. Then
then I found out that I could,

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which I didn't know this, that
I could actually record if I if I

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too. So what I started to
do is I would if I got a

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notification, I would just you know, log into that camera and press record

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and see what happened. So what
I what started to happen is I was

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getting these noises like loud like snorting
and grunting and things that actually, I

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mean it sounded like gorillas or I
guess that would be the closest thing,

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you know, like silver backed gorillas
or large like apes you know, the

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exact same kind of sounds. One
night, we there was this sound that

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we thought, what is it.
It's like it was like a vibrating,

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like a vibration noise and like percussive
like sounds. Then I realized, well,

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my husband actually said that sounds like
maybe something's messing with the down spouts,

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like they were blowing into the down
spouts. And so so since then,

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we don't have that, you know, that much of that like consistently,

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but we have it on a regular
basis, to the point where I've

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gotten so much much, so much
audio that's that's pretty you know, it's

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like pretty compelling. And I did
I was able to have some of it

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the I feel like the best quality
stuff, you know, that I was

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able to get run through like a
spectrogram program, so it showed that it

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was outside of the normal range of
you know, like human or animal sounds,

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which is like so anything like about
six hundred hertz, and so I've

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gotten quite a lot of those,
and and I now it's to the point

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where, so you know, now
we're like two years into this, it's

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to the point where they will occasionally
show up on on the cameras like a

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visual you know, visual sightings.
It's not great, but you know,

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it'll be something brief or if I
can, I will go and visit them

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in the woods. Not on a
regular basis, but because I don't want

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to bug them. But I have
seen them now and they've started to like

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show up in my you know,
in my my videos or photos. Sometimes

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I on the advice of people that
kind I have had, you know,

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have been in habituation situations like this, I'll go in and you know and

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say, hi, I'm here,
and if anybody wants, I say,

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if anybody wants to, you know, show up on camera, or one

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wants to get their picture taken,
you know, just show me. And

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and I've been successful as far as
visual sightings. The first one that I

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saw was in December of late December
of twenty I guess would have been twenty

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twenty two. Yeah, And it
was this. It was something that was

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sitting next to a tree. I
got I was I was getting like crouching

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down next to a tree in the
woods. I was getting the feeling and

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I've never had this before that I
was being watched and you know, people

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will say that, and so I
just took my camera out and I or

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my phone and I was VI and
I started a video and I thought,

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I can see something sitting there.
I thought that I could see something sitting

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there. I walked closer and din
with my camera and I thought, no,

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that's just like a It looks just
like a like a stump. Because

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because it looked if it was a
face, the face, the skin on

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the face would look like tree bark. And so I just kept filming.

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But I thought, no, that's
that's just got to be a stump.

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You know, filmed it a little
bit, but then I then I kind

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of forgot about it. And then
two weeks after that, I was reviewing

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the video and I thought, oh
my gosh, like you can see the

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thing move like it moves, So
that was something that was you know,

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like a living whatever it was,
it wasn't tree bark. So I went

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back at out and I and found
the tree and I was able to take

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a picture that it was There's there
was nothing there, There was nothing sitting.

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So there was something sitting there,
you know, the day that I

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had had taken that video, that
first taken the video, So that was

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the one that I would say that
I first kind of saw, but that

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was you know, just through my
through my phone lens. Then in probably

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maybe a year ago in June.
Last June, I was doing my little

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visit where you know, out there
where I just kind of peek in and

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there's an area that I can look
into. It's about sixty yards sixty to

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eighty yards away, you know,
portions, portions of it are sixty and

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then you know the furthest is eighty
yards away where I think that their most

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active. They kind of like hang
out there during the day to you know,

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just to sleep. And I and
I think that there's maybe some that

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are sitting around watching and you know, to protect the rest of of the

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what I call like a clan.
And so one day, like I said

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last June, I thought, now
this, and this is with my naked

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eye, and I thought that literally
looks like one sitting there and like it

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has something like it's holding something.
And then it stood up and I could

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see clearly. Now again this is
about sixty yards away, so I could

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see it, but it wasn't like
I could see, you know, completely

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defined features, but I knew that
it was something, you know, and

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it wasn't any kind of an animal
or human. It was solid black.

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It stood up and it was holding
a baby, like a little solid black

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baby, and it's like it kind
of like hitched its hip up so I

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could see the baby, and I
just was like, oh my god,

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it was so honored, and I
said, thank you for showing me your

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baby. It's so cute. This
this creature was was thin, so I

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don't think that it definitely wasn't an
adult. Maybe six to seven feet tall.

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I'm not sure. I've I've I
don't feel comfortable going directly to that

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area to recreate what I saw because
it's just too close. Like I said,

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this is the area where they're always
at, and I don't want to.

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I don't, you know, I
don't want to go into their home.

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So I'm going to guess about six
seven feet tall but mostly thin,

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possibility of breast, but I'm not
positive one. Like I said, solid

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solid black hair. The skin on
the face was very was also very dark,

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not black, but very dark or
maybe gray. And the her her

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hair, I felt like it was
a female, young female. Her hair

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and her head stuck like straight out
all around as if like somebody had like

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as she had like a fur hood
on is the only thing I can,

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you know, think of to describe
it. It was kind of like a

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little bit comical. But and so
that was that was, like I said,

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that was the second, I guess
the third if you're counting the baby

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one that I saw. The the
final one that I saw was last August

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and I was filming an area that
is right alongside of our house where towards

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dusk, they will kind of start
to come out. It's in the tree

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line and they'll they'll, you know, they'll they'll start to come out,

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and you can't see them like straight
on. It's like if I'm out we're

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in the front yard or way down
in the backyard, you'll see movement.

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But I thought, well, I'm
gonna just walk along and have my you

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know, my phone recording and see
if I can get anything. And then

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I got to an area where there's
like a brush brush prior to the woodline,

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and I thought, oh, I'm
just gonna kind of peek in here

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with my phone. It was completely
pitch black, and I thought, I'll

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just stick my phone in here.
And I wasn't expecting anything, you know,

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I wasn't expecting to see anything.
So I stick my phone in there

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and as my phone adjust to the
you know, to the to the dark,

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I see one sitting there about six
feet from me. It I I

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just I screamed, and I and
ran into my house and I couldn't believe

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that I could run that fast anymore. It just shocked it, It just

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really it just shocked me. I
was so shocked. I never expected that.

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I think I also shocked the the
sasquatch. It was sitting with its

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like knees gathered up and it was
like hugging its knees. But it also

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but it had its arms around the
top of its knees. Okay, so

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its knees are completely bent and like
I said, almost like hugging its knees

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and the you know, like I
said, hugging its kneee and it had

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its and and all I could see
was from the the top of the nose

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and the eyes like up, I
couldn't see the rest of the face.

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When we got when we made eye
contact, it immediately like put its head

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down, like it hit its eyes, which I thought was like now in

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hindsight, so it was like adorable
that I didn't feel scared at all.

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I felt like, I mean,
I was scared at the time, I

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was shocked at the time, I
didn't. I wasn't like terrified that it

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was going to hurt me. I
felt like it was as intimidated or like

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shocked, and you know, of
me seeing it as you know, as

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I was of it. It was
auburn in color, and like with auburn

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with brown, it looked very much
to me like the thing I could I

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immediately thought, was like, oh
my gosh, like Chewbacca, because it

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had very long hair hanging from it
like its arms, you know, both

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from both of its arms, I
could see that hanging down on either side.

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Its head was was rounded on top, I mean slightly cone shape,

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but not not anything like you know, like say the paddy, like the

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patty, you know, creature it
was. It was more a little bit

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00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.200
more round it, but it was
still had a little bit of a cone

410
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.839
shape more than a human. And
it's the it had. I don't know

411
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:30.440
if it was white hair around where
its eyes were or if it was just

412
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.319
the skin was white, but I
do remember distinctly like two round circles of

413
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.880
white and then and that's pretty much
all that I can I you know that

414
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:42.160
I that's the only thing that I
can remember, and so that was that

415
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.480
was the last. Like I said, up close sighting. I still we

416
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:52.480
still continue to get audio pretty with
a regular maybe once since a month.

417
00:29:55.319 --> 00:30:02.559
Last night was was I had a
situation that was pretty cool. I was

418
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:08.359
on a podcast talking about about Bigfoot
and it was pretty loud. I and

419
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.960
I was in my at my desk, which is which faces which has a

420
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.599
big window that faces the woods,
and now I have reading glasses on,

421
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.519
so I had no I couldn't see
any distance, you know whatsoever. When

422
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.079
I was done with the podcast,
and like I said, it was it

423
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:27.799
was. There was a lot of
laughing on the podcast. It was really

424
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.839
loud, like we were having a
great time. And so what I'm wondering

425
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.480
is if that kind of caught their
attention. This is the area where I

426
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.640
said, they will kind of start
to congregate at dusk, you know,

427
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.119
in the in the woodline where you
can see movement, And they did that

428
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.319
all last summer, and now you
know we're heading into you know, it's

429
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.960
starting to state like a lot you
know, pretty late here, and so

430
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.079
I guess they're going to do it
again. But so last night, when

431
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.960
I was done with the podcast,
I took off my reading glasses and I

432
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.960
thought, wow, that looks like
I see movement, like seeing movement in

433
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:06.079
that in the woodline. I wanted
to go grab my binoculars because my family

434
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.519
got me some high power binoculars for
my birthday. But I thought, you

435
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.400
know, if I'm just gonna I'm
just going to start to record, because

436
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.079
if they're standing in there, I
don't want to miss anything. And I

437
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.880
could. I really thought that I
could see one standing there, possibly holding

438
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.640
a baby, like a little baby. That one was also solid black,

439
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.359
as was the baby. So I
just started a record and just you know,

440
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.759
regular with my with my iPhone,
and then I went to get my

441
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.440
binoculars. By the time I got
back, it was I couldn't see it.

442
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.880
It was like, well, wait, maybe I maybe I'm seeing things

443
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.759
because all I could see I could
see where they were standing, but now

444
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.000
it was just solid like black like
and I could see back through the trees.

445
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.680
So I thought maybe it was just
you know, like an optical illusions,

446
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.519
and I just kind of forgot about
it. I made dinner, you

447
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.559
know, I was watching TV with
my family, you know whatnot, and

448
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.480
then then when I went to bed, I thought, oh, I want

449
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.799
to review that video. And then
when I reviewed the video, I was

450
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.400
like, oh my gosh, there's
definitely you could see a large black one

451
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.200
standing there holding a little black baby. So I reviewed a couple times,

452
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.559
and then I put it on my
YouTube channel, which is really small but

453
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.079
it's and and so people could see
that and and I've gotten some pretty good

454
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.680
feedback. I also have a Facebook
page that I started right around the time

455
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:28.400
when I started to have a lot
of activity here. It was it's it

456
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.200
started out as like a local page
for you know, for people, local

457
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:36.119
people, and it kind of just
branched out from there. It's called No

458
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.960
Drama, Bigfoot, Encryptids and I. And so that's I've I've been able

459
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.839
to learn a lot just through other
people's you know, sightings and circumstances.

460
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:50.839
So that's I guess that's pretty much
much it. You know, in a

461
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:57.440
nutshell, you've got a lot going
on, for sure, harb, Yes,

462
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.960
yeah, a lot going on.
Have definitely have some questions for you.

463
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:08.640
Have you ever looked into having like
a some kind of audio recorder on

464
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:15.720
your property or maybe like some something
that would give you like a thermal way

465
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.680
to look at a thermal out there. Yeah, Well, my son in

466
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.960
law he had a pretty good thermal. Now he's from Pennsylvania, but he

467
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.880
was here visiting around in November.
Our youngest daughter got married, so they

468
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.480
were here visiting for They were here
for ten days and we went out like

469
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:36.200
every night, you know, trying
to get any sort of We didn't get

470
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.960
anything on his thermal except one night
there were two It was almost like two

471
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.799
round balls, you know, of
heat signature that we could see. But

472
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.480
that was that was it, And
it wasn't anything where you know, you

473
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.039
would say, oh, wow,
definitely that's something, you know, I

474
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:57.000
think, but I don't have one
myself. I'm hoping to, I'm you

475
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.240
know, hoping to eventually, you
know, get one of those. I

476
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.480
have a feeling that if this was
something, I can't imagine what else would

477
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.400
have been in the you know,
in where we saw this, in this

478
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.159
tree line, I don't know what
else would have been in there that were

479
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:14.039
you know, that would be two
looks like two heads walking around, you

480
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.360
know. Was it certainly wasn't humans, and it was pitch black. And

481
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.880
then the other thing is what we're
Oh, I did get a little recorder

482
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.760
and and I and I've stuck that
out. I got that from my birthday

483
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:29.679
last year. Stuck that out a
few times overnight, but I I didn't

484
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.199
really get anything, you know,
And and I got one that is not

485
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.960
like activated by sound. Because people
that have that do you know, do

486
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.199
this regularly that record. They said
it's better to just keep it going,

487
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.079
you know, all night long and
then see what you get. And I

488
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.920
haven't gotten really anything. I seem
to have the best luck with getting the

489
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.559
audio through through the cameras, and
I don't know, I what I what

490
00:34:54.639 --> 00:35:00.360
I do is several nights a week, I start about twelve thirty, you

491
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.519
know, in the morning, and
then I go till about three thirty and

492
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:07.039
just off and on all kind of
we have four cameras. I'll do like

493
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.199
round robin, you know, just
check all the four cameras periodically. And

494
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.079
that's where I've gotten the best results. But I do I'm going to continue

495
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.599
with the you know, with the
handheld. It's just you know, you

496
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.159
have to listen that to eight hours
of really nothing, you know. So

497
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.880
oh, I absolutely know how that
is. And it can just it can

498
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.559
be my numbing to go through stuff, but I mean it can be really

499
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:37.079
worth it too. It's just it
can be quite be your deal to go

500
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.320
through it. I've got a few
questions. I want to make sure I

501
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:47.079
hit here. So from the Patreon
that we have for Big Fist Society,

502
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.039
I'm going to take this question,
maybe tweak it a little bit, so

503
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:55.960
Scott Sure. Scott was wondering if
if you actively engage in habituation activities with

504
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.199
the Bigfoot, and I mean you
did bring up that phrasing yourself already,

505
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:08.599
so I'm curious, maybe are you
putting out food or are there any gifting

506
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.280
scenarios in play? I have not. I don't feed I What I have

507
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.679
done as far as that, as
far as you know gifting is there is

508
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.440
an area that right inside the I
guess you'd say right inside the woods,

509
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.920
so I don't have to go deep. Is there is an occasionally occasionally I'll

510
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:34.000
leave like a bag of apples or
or like one time I had like a

511
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.559
French bread that I had put you
know in there. But this is with

512
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:42.119
very you know, not on a
regular basis, because I don't want to

513
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.159
feed them. I feel like that's
not safe. I don't feel like it's

514
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.599
it's fair to them, you know. So it's only this will only be

515
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.679
as a gift situation, you know, not something that I'm like actively feeding

516
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.679
them. And I've also put out
things like like Marti Gras beads that I

517
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.400
hung in the trees, which they
did nothing. I mean, that wasn't

518
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.360
even touched. I put some little
tiny like the yellow rubber ducks. I

519
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.760
put a few of them out last
summer and they were gone, they took

520
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:15.280
they were gone. And right now
there's a little wooden doll that that is

521
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.039
has like a cute I don't know, just it's like an old fashioned doll.

522
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.079
It's not an antique or anything,
you know, but a little wooden

523
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.760
doll that I put out with a
sparkly hair bow. That was one of

524
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:28.039
my daughters from when she was she
was a cheerleader. And I have those.

525
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.920
They get moved around, but they're
not taken. But that's the extent,

526
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.480
you know of it. I I
want to do a little bit of

527
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.360
a gifting, you know, but
I don't want to you know, make

528
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.119
a pest of myself or you know, like anything like that. I just

529
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.119
wanted to be hey, you know, I want to be a good neighbor

530
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:52.760
to you or whatever. You know. Yeah, absolutely, no It definitely

531
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:59.639
does. And you know, the
whole leaving food out, it's it's that

532
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:06.519
you usually what happens is that there's
a point where it stops happening from the

533
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.159
property owner, and then that's when
you hear the stories of there could be

534
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:15.320
issues right, yes, yes,
definitely, yeah, but it's a lot

535
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:16.639
of that. You know, it
gets really, it can get really,

536
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.400
it can go bad really quickly.
Oh absolutely, And it sounds like you're

537
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.280
thankfully you're aware of that and what
could happen, and you're playing it smart

538
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:30.920
for sure. Scott was also asking
prior to purchasing the home, were you

539
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.400
aware of any other or prior Bigfoot
history in the area. Is that something

540
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.480
I've ever can out? Now?
I know I was aware of history only

541
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.519
there are two BFRO reports within Oh, I mean, okay, if you're

542
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.920
going to go within like ten square
miles, there's probably five or six within

543
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.000
our house, maybe within five square
miles, or there's at least two.

544
00:38:54.599 --> 00:39:00.400
One was just just a mile away. There's definitely a history out here.

545
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.639
And again with my Facebook page,
that was why I first started to have

546
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.199
so people could you know, come
on and tell us what you're experiencing.

547
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.480
And I got quite a few people, you know, joining and giving encounters,

548
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:17.400
so I know that they're here.
I just I just just never thought

549
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.559
that I think that there's I bet, I think that there's the family of

550
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.480
maybe like ten or fifteen that just
because of the different ones that I've seen

551
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.880
on a regular basis that are here, and I'm sure that they you know

552
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.920
that some go off to you know, as far as how food, you

553
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.320
know, the food sources go.
There's living on the Puget Sound. It's

554
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:44.239
a it's a saltwater like estuary,
so there's a lot of a lot of

555
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.360
food for them. You know,
there's all the shellfish. Of course,

556
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.440
there's salmon and whatever, you know, other saltwater fish. And I'm sure

557
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.480
that you know, again like that's
a food source. We have some there's

558
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.639
some creeks that run through the area
where they're at, a lot of all

559
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:04.440
kinds like berries and ferns and you
know, just a lot of there's a

560
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.679
lot of food for them, mosses, you know, all that kind of

561
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:14.960
stuff. Have you ever talked to
any of your neighbors about if they're experiencing

562
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:21.519
related activity. We only have one
set of neighbors and their their their house

563
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.039
is pretty close. It's a couple
that's a little bit older than us.

564
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:30.719
They're both retired. They had never
had any activity. But I feel like

565
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.320
the husband wasn't sure that you know, he I'm not really even sure that

566
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.199
he at the time believed, you
know, in them. His wife she

567
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.480
thought. She said that they've had
some odd things on their cameras too,

568
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:47.400
but nothing that would definitively you know, like point point to it being bigfoot.

569
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.440
She does believe. And now since
they they've seen you know, our

570
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:55.039
heard our audio and seen some of
the things that I've photos and videos,

571
00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.199
and so they they're definitely believers now. But but that's really it again.

572
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.320
Most it's so rural that most of
our neighbors aren't even that close, and

573
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.199
you know, and it's like,
I don't want to be like going door

574
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.079
to door or whatever, you know, or like flagging people down, Hey,

575
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:14.199
you know, have you So Yeah, No, I totally get it,

576
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.440
because I mean, you're the person
who has to live in that community,

577
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.920
and I get it. I know
what people have done in similar situations,

578
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:28.119
is Dave, and I mean this
would be kind of similar. But

579
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:35.440
you see, if you could do
like a town hall meeting type situation.

580
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.880
But then you're still going to be
known as the Bigfoot person, so you

581
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.679
have to deal with that as well. So well, I'm also like I,

582
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.360
like we had said prior, you
know, to to starting the officially

583
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.840
starting the interview, I really just
I just really want to protect them.

584
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:54.880
I won't have anybody you know,
come to come here people where they're at.

585
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.320
Would rather if people honestly, like, you know, you know what,

586
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.960
if you don't believe me, that's
fine, I'm not going to show

587
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.599
you where they are. Like that
has to remain a secret, because the

588
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:08.960
last thing I would I would be
heartbroken if people came, you know,

589
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:14.239
found where they're at and just kind
of you know, chase them out or

590
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.960
disturb them. And that's really been
min just to protect to protect them,

591
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.280
you know, I want to be
a good neighbor to them. I wouldn't

592
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.360
want people coming into my house and
you know and disturbing, disturbing me,

593
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.320
and that would really yeah, that
would really break my heart if I if

594
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.599
I found out that they were being
disturbed or harmed or scared or whatever in

595
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:39.079
any way. Absolutely so, you've
had some pretty close at least the one

596
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:45.400
that was very close you said within
six feet would you. So, I'll

597
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.960
say it this way, Having that
close of a view at them, how

598
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.480
or what do you think they are
exactly? Did that give you anything like,

599
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.880
oh, this looks more like an
ape to me, or this could

600
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:06.840
be some human offshoot or I you
know what. What is most one of

601
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:13.800
the most interesting things to me is
that I assumed that they were just big,

602
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.000
like you know, apes, like
an undiscovered ape species, large,

603
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.920
you know, like you know,
you look at Patty and you know,

604
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:27.119
sheet like mostly like an ape,
I mean an upbraik, you know,

605
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.239
nothing like we've ever seen, right, But the ones that I that here,

606
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:35.440
yes, there are some that are
very ape like looking. But then

607
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:40.119
there is also some that are very
human looking and and some have very Native

608
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.559
American almost features. The one,
the one that was that I could see

609
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.159
last night outside of my you know, my desk window, that looked the

610
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.760
baby looked more like ape like.
My husband was looking at the video with

611
00:43:52.800 --> 00:44:00.119
me, But the big one looked
very human looking. And it's it's so

612
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.239
it's it's really it's bizarre to me
that this is like the same clan,

613
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.480
right. But there's some that are
solid black, some are you know,

614
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:12.519
auburn brown, there's also a I
didn't mention this, there's also a baby

615
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.639
that I discovered, and I got
a pre that this baby has is has

616
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:25.840
pale skin and bright blue eyes,
and the its hair is like very blonde.

617
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.559
I mean, I thought with the
blonde baby, I thought there was

618
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.280
like a that's what I thought.
I was like, what is this blonde

619
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.320
baby doing? Well, a toddler, not like an infant infant, you

620
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.719
know, because it had this like
shock of blonde, you know, hair,

621
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.559
And I thought, what is like
it's sitting there by a tree.

622
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.119
And then but then I have found
out since that when they are first born,

623
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.880
they're kind of or like you know, and until I don't know whatever

624
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.920
age young they have this like kind
of fine, downy hair like all over

625
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.639
them. So this baby probably just
all of its hair is white, you

626
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.840
know, or light like that.
That baby so human looking. It's just

627
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:09.679
it's just it blows me away.
All they're so diverse looking. So I

628
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:13.840
think that they are as the Oh
go ahead, I was just gonna say.

629
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:19.679
Not surprisingly, when you started to
talk about how baby Bigfoot are in

630
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.639
a way human looking, we had
some wacky audio stuff come in. Oh

631
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:31.039
my gosh, wild audio interference that's
actually something that I've never heard before,

632
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:36.519
and that's really interesting. So you
saw that with your own eyes that it

633
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:44.039
was a smaller creature, but it
looked very close to what maybe a human

634
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:46.320
child would look like. Yeah,
all, I didn't send you that picture

635
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.360
because you know, this is like
some of this stuffed you Oremia is like

636
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.440
so bizarre. Like I know,
I sound like a like a looney to

637
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:58.639
like see even saying it, but
like this is this was, like I

638
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.960
said, I will, I'll send
you the picture. It just was.

639
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.360
It was amazing. I'm and I
like, well, I caught sight of

640
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.239
it, but I thought, no, this isn't now, you know,

641
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:10.840
and I knew that I got it
on video, so I didn't really like,

642
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.480
there's no way that there's going to
be a baby sitting there looking at

643
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.880
me, you know, out in
the in the woods, and I mean,

644
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.719
you know, broad daylight. It
wasn't like and it wasn't it didn't

645
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:27.719
make a noise or anything, and
I just it just really really I can't

646
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.440
believe how I didn't think that this
thing was actually a big foot. I

647
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:35.400
thought it was maybe is it some
other sort of like an elemental they say,

648
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.880
you know something other than that.
I don't know, but it but

649
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.320
I but now I know that I
really firmly believe it's a big foot.

650
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.639
I was. I did go out
about two or a week I guess it

651
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.239
was after I got that. I
went with my daughter and I sat in

652
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.480
the same spot as this thing was, as this little baby was, And

653
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.400
the baby was not as small as
I first thought it was. I thought

654
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:00.480
that it was maybe like the size
of you'd say, maybe like imagine like

655
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.719
a one year old. Okay,
it looks older than a one year old,

656
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.719
looks more like a four year old. But I was thinking again that

657
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:08.760
it was about the size of a
one year old. I was thinking it

658
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:13.199
was much smaller. But when I
got out there, like this thing's head

659
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.880
was probably just a little bit smaller, you know, than mine, And

660
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.840
it was definitely, like I said, it was taller than I thought that.

661
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.719
You know that it was so and
I and I then got I believe

662
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.840
I got a pretty good picture of
it. Now this is you know,

663
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.400
oh well, I don't know subjective
because I can see it, but and

664
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.119
some people can see it, but
it's certainly not like a crystal clear picture.

665
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.280
But there was a dark one that
was holding it, and it was

666
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.480
back in that area that I said, I can look into that's pretty active

667
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:50.039
and you can see that this dark, completely solid black one is holding this

668
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.360
baby that's white because you could see
its arms and it's that hair sticking out

669
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:59.199
straight, that blonde hair or white
hair or whatever sticking out and it's really

670
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.480
cute. It's really cute. So
I thought, well, yeah, there

671
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.440
again that is you know, there
you go, that's that's a that's a

672
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.599
baby. That's a that's a bigfoot
baby. It's not a you know,

673
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.159
I don't think that they would be
holding an elemental. I don't know.

674
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:17.039
My opinion is that they are a
human hybrid, which is I you know,

675
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.760
is which is what the the DNA
study that that doctor melbouketch him headed

676
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:28.199
up and and the results that they
got, you know that the that the

677
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.920
mother, the mitochondrial DNA was was
female and then the other was the you

678
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:38.320
know, the father's side would be
unknown. So I I believe that.

679
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.559
And I don't know what they are, but I I don't think that they're

680
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.639
just the o their death. Certainly
not just animals. They're way too smart

681
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:52.840
for that. I know that they
interfere with electronics they'll shut the cameras off

682
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.719
sometimes when I'm watching, they'll shut
the sound off. They'll shut the audio

683
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.480
off, but you know, then
it comes right back on. We'd light

684
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.199
out by our driveway. Like I
said, it's we're out in the you

685
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:05.559
know, we're out very rural in
the country, so there's no street lights.

686
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.079
We have a big up light that
is over the our driveway entrance,

687
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:15.239
and they started to turn that off
randomly overnight. And what else they you

688
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.760
know, like the cameras. I
if I'm watching in one camera, I

689
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.199
can see that they're causing the other
camera to flash because with infrared, you

690
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:27.519
can see the circle when it goes
on, like a human eyes can see

691
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.280
the red circle, and I'm sure
they can. But there's also like a

692
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.079
light that it flashes if you have
that, you know, if you have

693
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.400
that ability, and I'm sure they
do. Animals would have and you can

694
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.679
see that through the other infrared cameras
and I'll see like the you know,

695
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:45.119
the other light like flashing, flashing, flashing, but there's no indication of

696
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.840
movement coming from that camera. So
I believe that they know how to do

697
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.440
that. I don't know how,
but I think that they you know can

698
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.519
have nose abilities. I don't know. Well, there's something I'm going to

699
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.000
ask you directly, kind of already
chat about a little bit. But so

700
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:07.760
it sounds like there has not been
a researcher on the property. No,

701
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:15.360
okay, no, gotcha. Yep. Yeah, but there have been other

702
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:21.199
yourself, other family members that have
experienced stuff. Mm hmm, yes,

703
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:27.480
yeah. My daughter one night,
this was actually before I was grunted at.

704
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:32.679
It was probably six months before that
she was she came, she was

705
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:36.360
coming home from work, pulling in
the driveway, and she got out of

706
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:43.000
her car and she saw these bright
blue like she said it. She knew

707
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.920
that they were eyeballs because or eyes
because she saw them blink, but she

708
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.840
said they were like massive and she
was terrified. She said, Mom,

709
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.440
there's something like standing in the woods
and it's like looking at it was looking

710
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.599
at me, and she said,
and it had big blue eyes and and

711
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.559
that were like shining at and you
know it's it's black, so it wasn't

712
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.239
like eyeshine, like they were self
illuminated and and she's you know, and

713
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.159
she saw that and she was like
terrified. Then, you know, for

714
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.360
a while, like anytime she'd go
outside, and I, you know,

715
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.079
one of us would have to go
with her. She's twenty four now,

716
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:19.880
but you know, she was.
She's still very, very scared at night

717
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.440
to go outside because of that.
That really scared her. So she's not

718
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.960
on board with seeing any you know, any of my any of the evidence

719
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.039
or whatever. My husband and my
son in law they liked, you know,

720
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:31.840
they like to see it, and
they've also seen things and heard things.

721
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.079
But yeah, but that is one
thing that she was the first one

722
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.719
to see something like that. I've
never seen anything like that, but I

723
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.320
have a feeling that it was it
was one of them. That's that's a

724
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:47.519
characteristic of what people say, you
know, that they also experience with them.

725
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:55.559
Do you have any situations where there's
something's hitting the side of your house

726
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:06.599
or anything like that. We I
have not experienced that, except that they

727
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.320
will like I had said about messing
with the down spouts. I also think

728
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:17.519
that there are I guess it would
be juveniles that it literally sometimes at night,

729
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:23.280
late at night, it sounds like
there's something or some things running around

730
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:28.599
on the roof of our house,
not over like my husband and I.

731
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.559
Our bedroom is on the one side
of the house, so this is on

732
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.679
the other side of the house,
and it's very close to it's right,

733
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.280
you know, right in the area
where that lines the forest, the wood,

734
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.480
you know, the tree line.
So and I can hear that on

735
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.519
the cameras at night, and I
don't know what else it could be.

736
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.800
I don't have I I'm too scared
to, you know, go out and

737
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.480
actually look. But I don't know
what else it would because that's exactly what

738
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:59.519
it sounds like. Also, I
have heard some nights it's like there whatever,

739
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:04.039
some is banging, almost like it's
trying to play music, like it's

740
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.280
like using things as like like the
down spouts as drums. It's like just

741
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:12.000
this banging and I don't know what
else, you know, there's nothing else

742
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.320
that it could be. My husband
and my son in law were putting drywall

743
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:20.400
in our garage. I believe it
was sometime last year, and I believe

744
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.079
it was like early summer, maybe
late spring, and a few days later,

745
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:28.880
in the middle of the night,
I get this this audio that it

746
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.679
it sounded like they were almost mimicking
what the sound was, you know.

747
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:37.559
The it'll be like a I think
it's like an impact driver drill that it'll

748
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.800
be like a like it almost like
makes a noise, and then you know

749
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.360
the and then the like hammering noises, and and I I said to my

750
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.039
husband, listen to this. This
is like three o'clock in the morning and

751
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.280
it's up it was up on top
of our car port. And he said,

752
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:52.199
you know what that sounds like.
And then he was the one that

753
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:57.039
said that sounds like when Noah and
I were were installing the drywall. And

754
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.239
I'm like, oh my gosh,
So you know, I that's the kind

755
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:05.519
of things that almost like the mimicking
sounds they I've heard the mimic oh owls.

756
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.519
I get the owl sound so often, like that's at least once a

757
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.920
week that it'll sound maybe about like, you know, five owls are out

758
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.480
in the in the woods, sound
sounds like ducks. I think that I'd

759
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:22.559
sent you an audio clip of of
them mimicking they mimic ducks. First of

760
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:28.800
all, like there are there's no
ducks close. We don't have any farms

761
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.000
that are that close that you would
hear, you know, ambient noise of

762
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:36.320
any farm animals. There are water
foul you know that it would be out

763
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.000
in the in the water, in
the in the puget sound, but they

764
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.679
don't make they don't typically make noise
at night. Plus the fact I would

765
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.519
know I could hear you know,
they're at the distance of where the water

766
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:52.119
is versus almost like right next to
the house and now, and I believe

767
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.480
that the audio that I sent you
was like they're mimicking ducks, but not

768
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.519
they're not doing that. Well,
yeah I can. I can try to

769
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.599
play it right now if you want, if you're okay with that, if

770
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:45.159
it works, yeah, h h
that's it. The first time I heard

771
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.400
that, I was like, what
is going on here? It sounds like

772
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:52.800
some sort of like it's it's happy
duck. Then it goes into like demon

773
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:58.400
pig duck and like I'm just gonna
I'm gonna play the first part again just

774
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:13.679
real quick. That's that's so weird, barb, Like I've never heard that,

775
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.320
and you know, it's almost like
like I'm gonna be a duck.

776
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.519
Oh forget it. I'm not I'm
not doing a good job. I don't

777
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:22.559
want to do this anymore. Almost
right like right now, I forget it.

778
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:27.880
Yeah. At the end, it's
it's funny like because it's like at

779
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.639
the very end, it's almost like
well, I messed that up. I'm

780
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.039
not going to try it again,
and I check it out. There's also

781
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:38.159
which I know now just from hearing
this one, that is I don't know

782
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:42.280
if it's the alpha male, I'm
not sure, but it's he is a

783
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.480
very distinctive deep sound and it's like
a cook like a I don't know,

784
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:51.360
I can't you know, but that's
like in the middle. So what were

785
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.519
they were several of them trying to
mimic ducks. I don't know, you

786
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:57.840
know, And he was kind of
guided. I have no idea, but

787
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.960
there is that distinct like look like
a like a grunt in the middle that

788
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.480
you know, that I can identify. But and I believe was that one

789
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.320
of them that I sent you the
spectrogram? I'm not sure because I mean,

790
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:14.159
I know that I've had that the
ducks sounds. I got those a

791
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:16.800
lot of those last summer, and
I know that one of them. We

792
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:21.239
the guy that had amplified the audio. He ran it through because he said,

793
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:22.960
I have to see, like is
this real, real like real ducks

794
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:28.000
or what? And what it was
above the you know, the the range

795
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.760
that that a regular duck would be. He said, no, that's that's

796
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.920
not a duck. Have you ever
reached out to do you know who David

797
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.960
Ellis from the Olympic Project is?
Yeah, I do, and I and

798
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.559
I haven't. I haven't done that
yet. I and I and I should

799
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:44.039
because you know, we I mean, I know a lot of the same

800
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.920
people now, and it's it's like, I really, you know, as

801
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:52.800
you can see, like I'm very
new to this and and I and I

802
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.079
still feel like I'm now getting to
the point like, well, maybe I

803
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.159
have something, Maybe I have something
that I want to give him. I

804
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:01.559
don't want to. I would never
want to be that person that would be

805
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:06.039
like, oh, look at the
great you know evidence I have and then

806
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.119
the person's like, oh, this
is terrible evidence, you know, Like,

807
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.400
no, you don't, I don't
know. It's it's just it's a

808
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:15.239
weird. It's a I can't believe
I'm in this situation. It's very weird.

809
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.920
But it is to the point where
yeah, I should, I should

810
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.679
reach out to him. Yeah,
you know, I might recommend it.

811
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:25.000
Speaking of so, you talked about
some sounds that you heard them and it

812
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:29.159
was like, oh, that sounds
like that. Have there ever been other

813
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:34.960
situations where it's like sounds that don't
belong in your area. We one night

814
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:39.960
there was a it sounded like a
horse, which there wouldn't be a horse.

815
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:44.679
I mean, we have horse not
close, you know, but there

816
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.880
wouldn't be a horse like standing in
my yard, like just not not like

817
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.519
a you know, when they'll exhale
and they almost like like kind of like

818
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.960
flap their lips that like I don't
mean, I don't I can't even do

819
00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:01.280
it right, like they're exhaling,
and it made that noise, and and

820
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.800
one of the guys you know that
I that had listened to it, he's

821
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:06.679
like, do you is that a
horse? And I said, we don't.

822
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.719
Definitely not a horse. We don't
have we don't have horses, and

823
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:15.280
and it's just that one like exhale
and then yeah, so there have been

824
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.679
things like that. The one who
I said, like is I believe is

825
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.719
the alpha male. Possibly he sometimes
sometimes sounds like like a like a pig

826
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:28.320
or like a wild boar, but
there there are no wild boars in western

827
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.599
Washington state, so definitely not that. And there's no pigs close to us.

828
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:34.760
We don't, like I said,
we don't have any there's no farm

829
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.000
animals close enough to have any sort
of ambient noise. I but I'll tell

830
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.800
you now, this is something that
we do have. But like the tree

831
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.800
the frogs that will start to really
start to sing in the spring, we

832
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:52.480
do have them not close. There
is a swamp that's maybe maybe a mile

833
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:55.440
away, so you'll hear them from
a distance. But since this, since

834
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.960
I've started to you know, to
do you know, to record the audio

835
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.800
overnight, I have heard very close
what sounds like these frogs and almost like

836
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.480
communicating with each other. And and
one of the one of the I think

837
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:16.320
I sent you the audio that it
sounded like a bigfoot of sasquatch was communicating

838
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:21.480
with the frogs. Because you'll hear
the frogs and then it stops, and

839
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:25.559
that's like he's making his grunting and
then the frog will almost like speak back

840
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:30.400
to him. And yeah, you
can try to play it if you want,

841
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.679
because if I don't, I'm going
to get just reamed in the comments.

842
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.400
Okay, okay, okay. You
know it's just so weird, like

843
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.280
when you know, like if frogs, if they're going to sing, they

844
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:42.880
just sing, they just all you
know, they don't stop, they don't

845
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.559
pause. Four And I just thought
that was really interesting. All right,

846
01:00:46.639 --> 01:02:55.719
let's let's give it a try here, get it y. Yeah, it's

847
01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:01.280
fairy. It's very strangest. I
have not gotten any other audio over the

848
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:07.800
years like that. Wow, that's
good. Yeah, I mean I do

849
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.000
not, I don't. I just
you know, I don't even know what

850
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:15.719
to say. Yeah, it definitely
feels like there's some response to the frogs,

851
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:21.440
Like I can totally hear what you
were saying. It's it's very weird,

852
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.960
yes and all here. Sometimes when
I'll go out and you know,

853
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.000
to visit them in the woods,
I will hear like a singular frog making

854
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.880
that sound. And now this will
be you know, when it's way too

855
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:37.159
cold for a frog to be out, like this was in the in the

856
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:40.199
middle of the you know winter that
I heard that frog noise, and so

857
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:45.519
I'm just thinking that's probably one mimicking, you know, I don't know what

858
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:46.920
else to think. The other thing, which I don't know if you heard

859
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:52.719
that, was the one where on
that night I got those different sounds and

860
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.480
it was one night and it was
very close to each other. So the

861
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:59.400
guy that had amplified it and enhanced
it, he just did it all.

862
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.159
And you know, one recording and
then so yet it separated by that tone.

863
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:06.000
But the last one, I don't
know if you could hear the whistle,

864
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:11.239
it's like a two tone like and
then there's another one, which that's

865
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:16.400
but unfortunately that one was so distant. But it was like like almost there

866
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:19.039
were two you know, that were
like one was saying, hey, here

867
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:21.000
I am, and then the other
one was like, oh here I am

868
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:26.880
exactly I And that just blew me
away because like wow, right, like

869
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:32.760
what I mean, what animal?
You know? That? Just to me,

870
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.519
that just shows it just you know, really just shows intelligence. I

871
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:45.559
mean definitely wasn't a bird m something
that started to I've noticed it's coming out

872
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:48.320
in different areas of the community.
Do you ever hear anything that sounds like,

873
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:54.840
I guess singing in a way.
No, I well, I have

874
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.880
heard this isn't really singing like it
almost sounds like a flute. But I

875
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:03.360
haven't gotten any good recording you know, of that. But I did get

876
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.960
one. I did get an audio
several audios where it's almost like a cooing.

877
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:13.559
It sounds like they're like something is
cooing. But but no, I

878
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.920
haven't gotten anything that you know,
like I know, I know what you're

879
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:19.920
talking about where they'll have it literally
sounds like like someone singing. I haven't

880
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:24.719
gotten that. It's weird. It's
actually, well, it'll already be out

881
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:29.199
after this gets out. But it's
in the newest small town monsters about the

882
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:34.039
Olympic project. They talk about they
talk about that and then any WAC area

883
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:41.000
X guys. They're a podcast.
They just had a episode of the Alton

884
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:45.000
Higgins where he described hearing that as
well. And this is in southeast Oklahoma,

885
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:50.559
so it's very interesting that different parts
of the country are reporting that this

886
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:57.000
phenomenon is being heard. Do you
ever hear anything like baby cries? No,

887
01:05:57.079 --> 01:05:59.679
I have not heard that, Thank
god. Yeah I've not heard that.

888
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:06.159
Yeah, that would freak me out. Car doors shutting or rusty gates

889
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:11.039
or gates shutting, anything like that. No, No, I haven't heard

890
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.760
anything. I had. I heard
one. I did get a recording.

891
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:18.599
It was in the middle of the
day of one that sounded like almost like

892
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:26.599
I thought maybe like like hydraulic breaks. Okay, like when they'll make like

893
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:31.079
a loud squeaking noise, you know, And and my husband and I were

894
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:33.719
out on the deck. It was
last I think it was June in the

895
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:38.519
middle of the day, like Saturday
whatever. And my husband actually said,

896
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:40.480
like, what's that noise? And
I said, what what do you mean?

897
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.440
He said, wait, hear that? And I said, I don't

898
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.559
know. Is that? Like,
I don't know what is that? He?

899
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:47.239
And I said, this sounds like
break, like breaks are like a

900
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:50.039
truck. He said no, and
he said what He said, why don't

901
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:54.360
you you should start recording this?
And I'm like, okay, because I

902
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.320
knew that he would know. He's
a he has like a you know,

903
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:00.760
master mechanic, and so he would
know. I thought that was pretty cool.

904
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.320
But that's the only time I've ever
heard no, I've actually heard that,

905
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.239
not that like I don't even know
what you'd want to call it.

906
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:10.440
It's not a whoop. It was
just more of like a like a whistle

907
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:15.360
call. I've only heard that in
the middle of the day. Somebody had

908
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.800
suggested that it was a female that
was watching and something was coming into,

909
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.280
you know, into the area that
she was watching, and she was kind

910
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:25.679
of like walking through because you can
hear it moving, like alerting the rest

911
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.480
of the clan. You know that
something's here and and you know, be

912
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:32.679
alert. I don't know, I'm
again I don't know. I'm sure that

913
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:38.159
you've heard this Year Sounds by with
Ron moorehead. Have you ever heard anything

914
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:42.519
like that? No, I have
heard what and I believe I don't know

915
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.320
if I had sent you this audio. It's it's like a like a whispered

916
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:53.719
conversation I think between you know two
or or possibly more. And I've heard

917
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:58.639
the that which I think is at
Alpha male. He almost like he's counting

918
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.039
or saying word like there's words being
said, but it's not No, it's

919
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.360
nothing like nothing like the Sierra Sounds. I haven't heard anything like that.

920
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.920
All right, Yeah, you did
send me that video. I took the

921
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.920
audio out of it, so I'm
going to try to play it if that's

922
01:08:12.920 --> 01:10:15.760
all right. Yes, we'll see
how it translates across. Ye, that's

923
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:21.399
very interesting. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it. It's very very weird.

924
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:27.000
And what's what's what's pretty cool is
that like I could not hear most

925
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:30.560
of that. What I've discovered is
that there's a sound that they make.

926
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:38.399
And I they were taking blocks of
wood and like banging them together, but

927
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.680
it's actually it's a sound that they're
that he I think that you know one

928
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.159
or more are making with their like
mouth or or I don't know, almost

929
01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:51.640
like their throat, and it literally
sounds like blocks of wood because that sound

930
01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:56.640
was happening so frequently. And then
we would go down like the next morning,

931
01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:59.680
like to look and like nothing's moved. Like I said, we're renovating,

932
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:02.680
so they're are you know, there's
wooden stuff and there's nothing. There

933
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:06.920
wasn't anything that was ever moved.
And then with having when you have somebody

934
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:10.279
take and amplify it, it's like, oh my gosh, look at all

935
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:14.319
this other noise that's going on.
So a lot of yeah, a lot

936
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.840
of that. I didn't even realize
that that that was happening, you know

937
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.960
that that was what you could was
going on. It's it's so bizarre.

938
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:29.000
Has so over the last few years. Have you noticed that these circumstances affect

939
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:33.560
your dreams at all? Yes,
yes, I've had just last night I

940
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:38.279
had I had a dream about them. I haven't had I haven't dreamt about

941
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:43.560
them. But that's only I would
say, that's only been maybe the last

942
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:47.359
let's say six months, and and
it's very they're very like profound, you

943
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:53.479
know, dreams that you really remember. It's not it's I Some people have

944
01:11:53.640 --> 01:12:00.079
said they're possibly like preparing me to, you know, to see them,

945
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:04.960
because I hadn't seen anybody any before
I saw the first before I had my

946
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:12.119
first dream, I hadn't seen any
and they don't they don't look I don't

947
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.840
know, they don't look in the
dream like what they what I see them.

948
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:17.479
But I mean they're similar, but
it's can you describe, like what's

949
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:23.680
the big what is the difference there? Well, like the dream I remember

950
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:27.039
or like for last night, it
was, I dreamt that it was like

951
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:32.119
little ones that I could see them
running around in like in my dream it

952
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.680
was our yard, but not that's
not what our yard looks like. But

953
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:41.560
they were more like like a car
almost like what a cute little cartoon,

954
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:45.359
I guess, or you know,
they had the AI of what a baby,

955
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.479
you know, artificial intelligence of what
a baby bigfoot looks like, you

956
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:54.520
know, completely adorable. They looked
more like that in my dream. Now,

957
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.760
the one that was was the most
profound dream that I had was that

958
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.720
this baby crawled out of this hole
in the ground, which there wasn't a

959
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.640
hole in the ground. They just
kind of like crawled out of it,

960
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:12.600
and the baby the baby was probably
I shouldn't say, but it was probably

961
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.640
let's say, like the size of
maybe like a five a six year old,

962
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:17.000
not even a five, like a
six year old. And it's walking

963
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.439
toward the window. I'm standing in
a window looking out, and it's walking

964
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:27.000
toward me. And then an adult
like crawls out of this hole and it's

965
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.039
looking at me like with almost like
a mean look on its face, like

966
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.640
it's mad, and it's like saying
to the baby, like to stop,

967
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:36.520
like stop, get back, like
stop stop, but the baby keeps walking

968
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:45.159
toward me. The they both looked, oh gosh, like they were brown.

969
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:51.079
They both had like very like cone
shaped heads. But but oh,

970
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:58.279
but their faces were like a lot
their faces were very human, and I

971
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.800
mean, much more human than I
would say, like the ones that I

972
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:02.680
that I see. But I don't
see them again, I don't see them

973
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:09.319
that well that defined, you know, So maybe they do look like that.

974
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.159
I don't know, because I remember
the the I assumed was the father

975
01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.039
looked so like he was so mad. He had like such a mad,

976
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:18.600
like a human man like mad look
on his face. So I don't know.

977
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:24.359
I hope I'm describing it well enough
it's bizarre. Does that make sense?

978
01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:27.560
Yeah, No, it definitely makes
sense. Is there any Is there

979
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:36.880
any direct direct communication to you at
all in those dreams? Ever? No,

980
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.920
It's it's more it's more of a
okay, yes, in a sense

981
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:45.479
that they're acknowledging me and they want
me to see them, like with the

982
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:50.199
baby, little one walking toward the
window and the you know, like the

983
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:55.680
daddy being like no and like looking
at me like a me face like don't

984
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.800
I don't want my baby near?
You know. The one that I had

985
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.720
before that was there were a lot
that just kept showing up, like walking

986
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:08.479
through the yard like looking at me, and I believe that I was inside

987
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.359
I don't, I don't. I
don't remember specific I know that like they

988
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:13.880
weren't that close to me. It
wasn't like they were coming up to me,

989
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:16.199
you know, and like trying to
hold my you know, touch my

990
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.520
hand or anything like that. It
was more they're looking at me, and

991
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:24.800
they're acknowledging that I'm you know,
my presence and and and I'm seeing them

992
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.479
more in that kind of a you
know, of of a communication. I

993
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:34.359
guess gotcha to these dreams or communication
communications ever happened during the daytime when you're

994
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:41.359
awake. No, no, no, yeah, that's good. Sometimes it

995
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:47.319
can from what I've heard different reports. Yeah, it's such an interesting situation

996
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:53.199
that you've got going on. There's
a lot of stuff that you are experiencing.

997
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:59.640
Are you ever in a situation where
you feel threatened at all? It

998
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:03.960
sounds like that really doesn't happen.
No. No, I've gone into I've

999
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:09.439
gone into the woods, and I
felt like, oh, this is not

1000
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.399
a good time, you know,
like this is not a good time right

1001
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:15.840
to be here, like a feeling
of dread or like sometimes I'll get like

1002
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.840
a feeling of like sadness or like
that's like, wait, this is not

1003
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:24.359
coming from me. You know,
this is not from my emotions. So

1004
01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:27.279
I will you know, I'll leave, like definitely if I get that feeling

1005
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.920
of like, oh, you don't
belong here. But it was Monday.

1006
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:34.279
I went in and just briefly,
you know, looking around. It was

1007
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:38.560
a beautiful day, and I thought
I'll just walk in, walked around just

1008
01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:41.960
a little bit, and and I
got this feeling of like, oh my

1009
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:46.039
gosh, like such like joy and
great and just such a feeling of of

1010
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:50.239
like being grateful. And I was
so thankful for everything that was going on,

1011
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.680
like oh my gosh, this is
amazing, like such bliss and it

1012
01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.560
just came on me. So I
don't know if that was them putting that

1013
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.279
emotion on me. I don't know, because I mean, it wasn't that

1014
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.800
I was unhappy. I was just
like normal. I was neutral, you

1015
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:04.760
know, going in like oh,
I wonder what I'm going to see today,

1016
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:08.920
if I'm going to see anything,
and then that feeling just like wow,

1017
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.720
that was such a euphoric feeling.
I am like, maybe I should

1018
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:15.760
feel back in there. I don't
know, but that's what I would Yeah,

1019
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:19.720
that's what I would say. I've
never felt I've never felt threatened or

1020
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:24.520
like there's any sort of aggression.
But I'm also you know, if I

1021
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:28.199
feel that I'm not welcome or like, I don't know, like if I

1022
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:30.960
get that day when I got grunted
at, you know, I don't know.

1023
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.520
Maybe they're saying hello, but maybe
they're saying get out. And I

1024
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.159
don't want to do anything, obviously
to make them mad or to make them

1025
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:40.319
feel that I'm being any sort of
a threat or anything like that to them.

1026
01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:48.279
You know. Wow, Barb,
this has been a very interesting conversation,

1027
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:53.720
and it's just it's crazy to think
that. I mean, just everything

1028
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:59.680
is happening right now, current day, you know, it's actively happening.

1029
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:03.159
I agree, Yeah, I honestly, I I you know, I think

1030
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:06.840
and I don't. I you know, it's not like I'm out there,

1031
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:11.520
you know, telling a bunch of
people. It's it's it's like this is

1032
01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:15.239
this is this is bizarre stuff.
You know, there's a limited amount of

1033
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:18.680
people. Thank goodness, I have
my little community now, you know that

1034
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:25.239
I can share some of this stuff
with because it's a lot. It's it's

1035
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:30.920
weird. Absolutely. Do you have
any advice for for people out there where

1036
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:35.199
they have just found out that hey, I've got something else on my property

1037
01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:42.279
and I'm not quite sure what to
how to deal with this. Yeah,

1038
01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:48.760
I guess, let's see. I
guess I would just kind of treat obviously,

1039
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:56.800
you know, safety is paramount,
and try to show like a mutual

1040
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.199
respect, like set and attention you
know, right off, like right from

1041
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:04.199
the get go, like you're going
to be a good neighbor. But I

1042
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:09.439
don't want them to do anything that
is going to make me mad, you

1043
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:13.720
know, hurt you know, hurt
me, hurt my dog hurt my family

1044
01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:17.760
and I wouldn't and I'm not going
to do that to them either, So

1045
01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:24.000
just if they can just kind of
go about it with that. I don't

1046
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.439
I don't agree with like, you
know, people that feed them constantly.

1047
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:30.520
But again that's I know, hey, people have, there's different schools of

1048
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:34.479
thought and whatever. I would not
suggest that. And I guess, you

1049
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:38.880
know, if they're doing something that's
that's scaring you or making you mad,

1050
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:42.560
people say just go out and tell
them to please stop it. But I've

1051
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:46.640
not had that yet. So yeah, fortunately I've not had had that that

1052
01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:51.439
that's I guess, that's I guess
would be my you know, my only

1053
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:56.359
advice. I'm I'm so new and
so I don't feel like, you know

1054
01:19:56.439 --> 01:20:00.680
that I'm certainly qualified to give anybody
any kind of I think great advice.

1055
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:06.119
So but Barb, just thank you
so much for coming on the show,

1056
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:12.600
and definitely I'll be you know,
keeping an eye on on on your channel.

1057
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:15.760
I have that LinkedIn the show notes, and it'll be interesting to see

1058
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:20.640
how things progress over the next few
years. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

1059
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:25.039
But thank you so much for coming
on. Thank you for having me.

1060
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:28.000
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1087
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check it out for myself, all
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1095
01:23:20.000 --> 01:24:11.039
we'll see you next time. Her
and I can get out here, we

1096
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:15.359
can tell our stories. Maybe there's
somebody else out there listening it's too afraid

1097
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:18.520
to tell their story. Maybe this
will give them the courage to come out.

1098
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:23.359
And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks.

1099
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:27.119
I know what I saw, I
know what's out there. That's all I

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care. Please let people know,
Please let them know. If you ever

1101
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:51.279
see one of these things, you
need to tell because if you don't,

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01:24:51.640 --> 01:25:00.920
then shame on you, you know, shame on you.