Sept. 6, 2024

Out in the Woods with Ronnie and Dewayne, Pt. 3 | Oakridge, Oregon

This is the third part of a multi episode series where I document when Ronnie and Dewayne from Oakridge take me on a tour of the woods around Oakridge to show me different spots where encounters have happened.

In this part we make it to the Meadow....

This is the third part of a multi episode series where I document when Ronnie and Dewayne from Oakridge take me on a tour of the woods around Oakridge to show me different spots where encounters have happened.

In this part we make it to the Meadow. Weird things start to happen. Denise shows up and things get weirder.

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Yep, you hey, will leave your keys in here?

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Yep, Because as I I'm not as comfortable as everybody

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else happy. Yeah, I don't know about the career grade.

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The mantris might gidding because you get turned around too

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bad and whatever.

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I bet it's gonna be comforting for him to know

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that I'm the one who's gonna try to save his life. Well,

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you run from your girlfriend.

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Try to talking to them. Sweet, Please don't kill him.

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Please, he's my friend. That's a way about friend.

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He's he acts like he's on me, but he's really nice.

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He's like you guys.

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Really, he'd like to like you. I don't want to

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tell him that he.

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Loves you, just he's badful to tell. If he'd pop

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out and give me a visual.

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And out scary, Well, if you'd start thinking positive things

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about them and how nice they are, maybe it could

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go that way. Do you ever think of that?

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No? I don't, because you just don't get you keep

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saying I'm I'm not.

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Do you think about sweet dreams and brain them candy

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and flowers?

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I don't even know what sweet dreams are. I was,

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I know see what I mean?

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Don't hurt you and I'm afraid until you find out

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there's bigfoot in it and then I get it how

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that was.

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But you know, looking at it in the earlier light,

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that thing was bigger than I thought it was. What

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the thing that ran out of the back of.

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There, Dude, I gotta walk back there.

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That was way bigger than I thought it was. It

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was just a different light. It looked like a small

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bush that is not small here standing on in the game.

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Okay, something was Definitely they could be Chad though, but

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it almost looks like maybe, I don't know, something's kind

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of walking to here.

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There a lot of something walk They didn't have to

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come in here and chop this up like this. Why

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did you do that? When they hung a sign up

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for to keep out of here, fire didn't come over here.

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Why did they wreck the camp?

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Right?

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It's like they just want.

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To keep us.

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They didn't have to do all this.

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You don't fire a cane here, but all over there, man,

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this is I was not expecting.

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That's taller than I thought. That thing is bigger than

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I thought. If that don't make me nervous.

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All right, It's funny that Chad was walking back here

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in the uh one of his getting dark.

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I only wished I could shut it off and it

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don't bother me like these guys. Yeah, maybe I just

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don't drink en up where. I don't care. I don't

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know it scares me, right, I don't. I don't feel

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like it wants to be my friend.

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Okay, So tell me now that we're at the area.

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So it we heard the branches break from the starting

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over and then we listen and he just stopped moving

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and start talking. And then there's a snap over here,

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and we'd listen and they kept doing that and it

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got us in. You know, there another snap, and and

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my daughter got up to look with me. I was

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looking already, and she got up and turned this direction

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and we didn't see nothing then. But then all of

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a sudden, crash crash, crash, crash, crash, and I see

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this black shape weep out of this stuff and go

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that way.

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Wow.

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I was thinking, is that a bear because it looks

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small right, but being right here next to it, yeah, Uh,

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the other thing wasn't as small as I thought. These

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are pretty tall bushes right here, buddy. Uh huh, So

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that thing was way bigger than I thought it was.

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Hey, checked us out that's kind of a weird area.

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So it kind of over It's like it looks like

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a little oak track right there, like a baby oak.

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That just looks like what's kind of worn down?

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What to do?

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Maybe something digging for something or who knows.

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Usually it's only like a pollen of mushroom out of

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the ground. Your hope. Right, We usually dig a hole.

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So can we find you hiding out here? Where? Whereabout

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where it came out? And see what opened area right

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to where we just came out of. See that?

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Oh yeah, so okay, so right that way is the

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which area where we just came out of?

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Down there? Okay, it's all open to see how it opens?

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Yeah, I get it, okay, yep, yeah, very interesting.

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Yeah. I don't want to know how big this thing was.

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I don't know. Does that look weird right there?

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That's a possibility, Yeah, good possibility. That almost looks like

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a left foot yep, with toe toe toe. He that

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looks like a left foot. Good eye, buddy, that looks

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like a left foot, good.

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Eye, which I mean it would fit if we know

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they were in this area, they were jumping around, jumping

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on the ground, you would expect there to be some

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marking in the ground.

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Yeah, but unfortunately most of the ground is so hard

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you can't really make it out. But there's almost looks

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like something right there.

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It's just not the full foot right.

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It's interesting, but it don't quite look like a bear track.

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Yeah.

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You know, sometimes when a bear's walking and it's muddy,

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it'll his back foot will step into his front foot,

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and it'll look like a track.

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Uh huh, yeah, yeah, have a double step.

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You gotta look close to see if there's all marks

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and and all that, and if there's a bear track

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in front of it and a bear track behind it,

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it's not a big foot track.

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Okay, oh totally yeah, bear track. There's a lot of people.

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That this is where it jumped out of and then

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took off that way.

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Very interesting, but to me it looked little.

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It wasn't little. Yeah, it was just the difference in

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the light where the sun was that. Yeah, I'm not

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realizing how all these groups right here were.

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Holy Molly, Okay, just so we can remember, I almost

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want to market yeah right here right, yep. Let's man,

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I wish I had these. Yeah, we can just like

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stick a stick out of the ground by it.

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Yep.

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And like I'm a guy, I will try to try

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I'll try to talk myself out of every evidence thing

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that I find. You know, Yeah, but like that just

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feels that just looks like, you.

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Know, I try to rationalize it.

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I want to walk around this kind of border.

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Right, don't. But my problem is is now I'm positive

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there is no.

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Belief about it.

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Not for me.

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What I heard something is he singing yes?

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Cool?

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So if you start to hear stuff, it's because Ronnie

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has started to play his guitar over to the corner,

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which we'll go over to in a minute. H It

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feels like this is kind of a some kind of

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trail a little bit.

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It is.

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We're all through here, yeah, and then that right there.

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I mean, so let me point out something weird. Ready,

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all right, see that trail X Yeah, exactly right, But

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it's like I don't know how far do you take it?

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Right?

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And then it's like, well that kind of looks worn down,

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but I don't know if I would go that far.

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And it's just weird.

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Man, we found that big track. I believe it was

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right over here.

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Oh really, because we walked all the way around that

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you're talking about the twenty three inch one. Really. Oh man, wow,

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this is incredible. This has to have a name.

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Well, think of a good one. All right, I'll give

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you the learner with my blessing and permission. You call it.

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You walk.

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I'm here's a lot of bees, so I'm looking for

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bees nests.

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Yeah, that would. That would suck to uh stumble upon those.

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That's it would, And he does. That was I was

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doing fire trail one time around the fire man and

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you know, you're moving fast.

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And yeah, I slash my.

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Oh yeah, oh dad into the ground, and I pulled

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up a whole nest of bald faced hornets on my legs.

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Yep.

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And then there's one over here too, goes all over

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which these could be like elk as well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But the thing is if you have elk in this area,

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then that's a solid food source. Right.

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Well they got solid food source. Yeah, they got water,

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they got plants to eat, animal teat, you got everything.

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I could live here. I could live here, yeah, And

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but he'd just followed, or at least when I was younger,

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I could. I could uh outsmart the gear and run

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to the top of a mountain. There used to be

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a big old pile of gravel here. Oh yeah, that's

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what I used to put around like a fire pit.

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And I made a nice fire pit and put six

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inches of gravel around, and so it wouldn't you know,

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it was blowing no chunks out and start a fire.

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And I mean we had to stay. Can do inside?

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What's they.

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That deep oat.

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Used to be a nice thing.

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That thing was bigger than I thought, Ronnie, Huh, he

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was bigger than I thought. Well he caught the track. Yeah,

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he found the track.

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We didn't even measure it, did.

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We know, But it's about as big as that.

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One, similar size. Yeah. And I try to, like, if

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I find something, I try to be like probably not,

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but this like the way it looked. I was just like, man,

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it looks pretty solid.

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Way much taller than I thought. It was just a

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different light. So we walked over to look, and you

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found that track. That thing was bigger than I thought.

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Because it's right over there where it jumped down.

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No, the one I seen is bigger than I thought

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because of the height of the bushes and and all

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the things around it.

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Yeah, so not because.

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Of the track, because of the So was anything broken

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off in there?

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I didn't notice I didn't see anything. No, did you?

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There are toes there the is it good enough to cast?

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No?

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No, no, anyway, but it looks cool. It's just kind

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of bumpy to get in there.

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Yeah. And it used to be the flat man. Man,

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I can't believe they destroyed my spot for no reason.

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Yeahs been compromised and through.

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Here, and then they blocked that off right.

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Yeah, they blocked that road though.

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That was the road right there.

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Yeah, it was an old logging road.

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Oh, but where does it go?

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Want to go down there?

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I've been down there now. Yeah, my my food for

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you have got one hundred feet from the road back.

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In, Yeah, we can. We can see one of the apples, right.

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Yeah, check that out and see if anything picked.

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That apples was set up yesterday.

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I'm retired.

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So, Dwayne, who was the person who originally found it?

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Was you who originally found this spot and knew there

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was big food activity right right? Okay, And did you

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learn that from anyone else?

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Nope? Just from living out here, man. Yeah, you're in

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the weird monkey kind of sounds. And then get read

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let into big.

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For society will be right back.

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After these messages, Ronnie and encounter and all the big

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tracks and you see Luke here.

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Oh wow, yeah, there's a right but mm hmm yeah,

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it kind of looks like someone went right up and over.

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So see, oh yeah, wow.

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I took I'm the one that took all these branches

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off this these trees right here, and they use it

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for kin win and I wanted to be able to

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walk down here for you know, sneaking up on a

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deer or an elk or you know. So I utilized

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it for firewood and just kept breaking branches off of

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this direction. So I'm the one that did that, okay.

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And that's why, you know, everything else doesn't like that

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because I know there's orange. Yeah, there's the orange. The

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words of the apple. Should you two apples?

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If you a.

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Dude? The apples are gone?

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All right?

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So the apples are gone.

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Yeah there was one okay, so it was on the ground.

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So what.

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The banana?

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Oh hold on, I need to I need to document this, okay, Dwayne, Okay,

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So this is where so Chad set these out right, Yeah, okay,

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So Chad and Ronnie set these out next day. We

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have the orange still there.

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That orange is on the ground, but the orange there.

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We've got a banana that has been it's been peeled

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or eaten.

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And they left the oranges in the apple alone. Not

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only is that they broke the stick.

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Don't don't try to.

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They broke the stick off. It was hanging up.

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Let's let's leave it exactly where it is. Just I'm

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sure that. Yeah, this is pretty this is solid stuff.

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Twayne and Ronnie.

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Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie.

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Where Yeah tools, dude, this is nuts.

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Well, so much for the people that say they don't

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like bananas because they didn't need This is the proof apple.

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This is the proof because everyone gives Whenever I have

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a show like that, everyone makes fun of it, like

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they're like, nah, dude, they're not eating bananas. Well why

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are they not eating apples and oranges? And they're eating

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the banana right, and.

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They do eat apples, so that's kind of weird. The

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orange is an experiment.

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Okay, So let's look around if we know there's gotta

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be prints around here or something like that. Yeah, I

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don't know, but that's weird.

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It's the first time crab.

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Dude, this is nuts.

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I can't believe they didn't need.

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To wait here. I don't know, what do you think

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right there?

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It's a possibility.

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It's a possibility, Ronnie, you're gonna freak out. Maybe maybe not.

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But I think it's amazing.

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They didn't want the oring. That orange is on the ground,

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This apple has broke off the tree, still on the stick,

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and the banana is keeled.

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And ye, but they don't feelings.

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Why is it peeled?

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Yeah, I've never seen one peeled.

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Yes, Oh my goodness.

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I've never seen one feel They left the apple. All

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they did was break the branch on the tree where

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it was stuck on, and left the apple and peeled

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the banana.

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You think that's a sign. I don't know.

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I don't know.

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So whoever they don't like bananas are probably wrong.

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Yeah, how about the apple? The apples?

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They didn't touch it?

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Why why not?

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I don't know. The stick it was on. It was

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on the tree on a stick and the stick is broken. Now.

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Bears, they wouldn't have left that.

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R No, the bear wouldn't have left that that a bear.

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A bear couldn't take the couldn't open a banana.

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I understand that bright the bear and it would not

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have left the other fruit.

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I mean that takes like hands.

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I know that the bear I have left that.

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Oh that's true. Good point. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Uh it was a bear that fruit would have been gone.

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But something I'm just really excited.

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I said something I have never seen it, Like, were.

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These the only fruit that they put out? Okay, so

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I can't remember if they were doing stuff over there too,

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they were just looking. Oh yeah, it's gonna freak out.

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Okay. Is that a sign they want bananas?

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I don't know what it's a sign up?

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Yeah, yeah, that is interesting. I'm actually glad to see that.

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I'm taking that as a positive sign.

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That's incredible evidence.

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I'm taking that as a positive sign.

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Yeah, great, God, I hope you get to experience that.

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That bean or whatever he is.

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If that was a sign, that also means that they

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knew that we're going back to check it out.

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And it also means they're still in here.

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They're always here.

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I know, I told you that the whole time.

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But I'm saying that I've heard them all my sign

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then it's never been there before. I'm getting here.

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That's weird. There's a can right there.

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Yeah, somebody's That means they're expecting me to come back

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and brains and bananas and saying to them some more.

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That's what I'm getting out of that.

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Oh I glad you've got something.

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This could start things up again.

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Uh huh, yeah, it could be a very positive exactly

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to me, Yes, exactly, only as romantics wouldn't understand.

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More bananas.

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That's true, I know, but that's the strong indication. That's

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what it's about. I don't want apples and I want

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oranges and want bananas. I find that strange, and come,

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I'm giving the positive side of it, and I know

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you're having a hard time to understand.

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I don't bud.

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I that's a sign I think, maybe possibly very much.

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So for me to come back rains and bananas and

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sing them some lullabys, they miss me. It's obvious, can't

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you understand?

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Oh wait, wait, there's orange peels over here? What right there?

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Okay, there was more?

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Oh my god, it wasn't. That's that's old.

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But that's what that might have been from. Yeah, because

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I brought Okay, uh some great, it does look a

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lot older and other stuff that may be grapefruit and

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other stuff in here.

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Again it's peeled.

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Oh yeah, get tall totally.

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Yeah, but that could have been animal, right, rip an animal?

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No, you tell me how any animal could peel that.

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I don't know. You're the expert on that.

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Yeah, that's man, that's hard to say.

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But if they ripped it pard and ate it wouldn't

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wouldn't it be in pieces like them?

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I would think if they'd done that, they would have

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smalls a peeled too, But I don't know.

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Yeah, do you remember which one the banana was on?

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Roughly that one or that one.

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One of these these two right here?

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This one he was here or here?

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Yeah? Man, almost, Okay, check this out, because if I

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was going to go for.

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It, that's a good possible.

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Check this out. Okay, So Ronnie, if I'm if I'm

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gonna go for the banana, watch.

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This right here step.

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Yeah, it kind of looks like a step.

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I don't know. Yeah, it feels like a natural like Okay,

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I'm going for the for the banana right there? I

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don't know.

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That's weird, man.

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Yeah, And this is where I have put I brought

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so many bananas up here. Performance unbelievable. They never left

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any part of the banana. It was a no. That's

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first time I've seen one in peeled. So a regular

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animal didn't do that. Now, Okay, I have to take

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it as a sign. It's on, dude, I have to

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take it as a sign of some kind when assume

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that anyway this.

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May this is incredible, is getting back to these friends.

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And I know, I don't know. I think I think positive.

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I mean, the only thing that fire did was stirred

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him up for a while. Yeah, they're still they still here,

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they live here.

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Oh yeah, yeah, that's a pretty good sign.

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They ain't going nowhere. This maybe a positive sign for me.

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I don't know, find out. Yeah, byron uh that uh yeah.

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And I was up there, i'd put my food and

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see that tree was up and standing. They pushed it

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down and fire stuff and everything of that tree right there.

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That was my food tree. Oh okay, I have the

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car back in there. Mound wasn't there, okay, yeah, bug, okay, Yeah.

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I put the food up when I was trying to

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make peace with them, because it was after the two incidents.

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They tried to run us out, or did run us

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out the second time in the daytime. But so I

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wasn't very feeling very secure.

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But I come up and I put the food up

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and go out there close to the road and sing

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said down eventually they started doing it, but they were

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whooping right back in there.

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About one hundred and fifty feet or so. They could

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show you the area. And that's where I found all

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the tracks on my birthday last year. I didn't know

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if they were even back for one hundred feet. Always

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it was covered with trucks, all the individuals for twenty

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three inches. The tolls were in the ground on the

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big guy. So it was them, And uh, I was

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wondering why, because that's unusual for them to do that.

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And I was wondering if I was wondering. I was

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wondering if they was thinking I might see them because

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I knew that's where they were whipping from when where

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we're getting along, And and maybe it was the saying

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that they wanted to get back the way it was

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me playing and them whipping back. And you know, I

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don't know, but I don't know why they would leave

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so many tracks on the area. I've never heard of that.

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I never seen the spot. It was a little one.

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The tracks was that way. Yeah, so Ron hung up

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some fruit in that tree there. Yeah, and the next

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time we come back, Yeah, the food coming tracks, we're

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going that way.

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Well, that's why we set up campause person only about

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twelve winters long?

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Would food was gone? Would you ask to me this

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is about If it is one, probably about like I

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don't know, what do you think? Cause you say that's

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like twelve right or six? Six? Okay? So six, so

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twelve right around.

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Probably it might be the one, the twelve inch foot,

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probably the one that made Ronnie start putting food up

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here in the first place.

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Yeah, and that might be what kisses the dad off.

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But the kid coming in the room and taking food

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from us, I don't know.

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Just the thought right man, eating I'm writing down stuff.

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I wish I could shut it off like we do.

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But I mean keep saying I'm negative. I'm not negative

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at all. I just don't want to put my faith

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in what and he wants to put his faith in

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I don't want to hang out with my grandchildren in

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a few months.

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Do we know which way is north? Here?

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Man? Almost all the moss has gone off the tree here.

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I wonder if I'm gonna try here. Okay, So north

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is this way? So this is north of the meadow,

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so and then south of meadow. We had the other

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potential track, which you had said was the one over

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I think that was was that a similar size?

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It was approximately is same?

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And then the area where the weird tree breaks. How

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far approximately from here is that? That would be to

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the west fifty yards.

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About half a football field.

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00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:37.960
Big for society will be right back after these messages, Yeah.

479
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:39.480
We could have. We had multiple twist breaks, twist breaks

480
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:46.119
and twist breaks in a group. Man. I'm so glad

481
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.079
Cliff is going to be here tomorrow so I can

482
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:49.680
ask him if he's ever seen that before.

483
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.839
I'm glad you're here, man. It just made my day.

484
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.200
When I realized who you were, I was like, dude,

485
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.680
like I know that voice, she said, then I knew

486
00:30:59.680 --> 00:30:59.920
who you.

487
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.200
That's amazing. Yeah, that's really cool.

488
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.920
I wouldn't expect from you till tomorrow, and I don't

489
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.920
know with your voice. I was picturing you as a big.

490
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.839
A lot of people think that. I always get like

491
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.759
you are shorter and yeah, dude, no, it's cool. It's cool.

492
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:21.680
Remid over there there was other stuff in that same

493
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.559
area as its twist breaks, right, trying to remember.

494
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:32.559
The X on the ground A possible maybe track, but yeah, big,

495
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.839
a lot of breaks, a lot of breaks, A big

496
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:35.480
tall break.

497
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.960
Yeah, twelve feet Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, there was

498
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:42.960
a twelve foot break and then we were saying maybe

499
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:44.920
like eight foot.

500
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.319
Break about eight yeah, approximately.

501
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.640
Okay, so now we're seeing holy crap.

502
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.880
That's why I stood under the tree so you could

503
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.960
get a hip judgment. So somebody can't say, well, how

504
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.559
do you know how tall that is? Because the guy

505
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:05.119
that's of nine was standing underneath of it. So you

506
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:13.759
got that and that was two of me tall. That's

507
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:19.119
what you did, right, Yeah, you were calling tracks anywhere

508
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:19.480
in here?

509
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.720
Now? Oh I got yeah, I.

510
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.799
Wonder if we should walk down to the rail.

511
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.920
That gets over there al the what.

512
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.319
The trails or over the road then or wherever sho

513
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.200
walk down there?

514
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:34.319
I gotta get something real quick.

515
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:41.759
That have a fun.

516
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:43.000
Oh this is amazing.

517
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:53.000
Oh yeah, dude, see I brought a lot of bananas

518
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.480
up here, and dress as.

519
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.759
Much as that coller thing being open. Oh no, no, no,

520
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:03.400
that was a landmark.

521
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:10.759
Don't but can you see that? Say the part about

522
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.440
what to do with the bears again, with.

523
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.839
A black bear, if they attack you, they want to

524
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.559
eat you. They're stalking and hunting you, so you have

525
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.759
to fight them. And with a grizzly bear, you want

526
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:26.400
to play dead when you get attacked, unless you're asleep

527
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.640
in the tent. Then they're in there to eat. Yeah,

528
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.160
and that's the only time you would want to try

529
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.640
to fight back with it, because you're you're not going

530
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:38.160
to probably win anywhere unless you can get into his eyes.

531
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:46.519
It's weird. It's a random person's phone number that is

532
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:52.799
really weird, and it's on a squatch fest that.

533
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.480
Is doubly weird.

534
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:55.079
Uh.

535
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.640
I'm gonna hold on to that and show Priscilla.

536
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.240
I got a feeling there is gonna be some people

537
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:01.799
show up.

538
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.880
Oh. I have a feeling that I'm going to use

539
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.800
all the audio that I have available to record, which

540
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:12.239
right now is a lot.

541
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:14.199
Uh.

542
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:23.199
Did you hear anything?

543
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.480
No, I just thought I got a whipp or something.

544
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.280
If it is, it's a ways up because it's a

545
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:39.280
slight Yeah, slight whip got true that it's gotta be

546
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:40.360
riding here somewhere.

547
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:43.440
Oh, there it is.

548
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:48.760
Yeah, then I know about where I at.

549
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:52.719
I just don't like I used to.

550
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:00.280
M h.

551
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:03.719
You got that's fun.

552
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:04.760
Look at that?

553
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:05.639
Yeah?

554
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.920
Is that is that the light or is that a footprint?

555
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:16.920
Mm hmmm, that's a footprint right here?

556
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:17.480
Is it?

557
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.679
Dude, it's isn't It's massive? That's a footprint.

558
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.760
That's a big toe. Something happened to his other toe,

559
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:28.559
and these toes are spread apart. That's a different track,

560
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:30.239
isn't it. It looks like a track.

561
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.079
Hold on, I'm gonna take a picture of it.

562
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.840
And more breaks right there. This one's gonna break.

563
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.039
Yeah, all right there, yeah definitely.

564
00:35:52.840 --> 00:36:11.079
Yah, something's uh passed by here.

565
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.239
And kick the moss off the rock. But I don't

566
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:15.920
can't tell what.

567
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.000
How long a trail is this?

568
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.760
Yes? Well the trail is a long trill?

569
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.719
Okay? Well like yeah, that's why I know if I

570
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:51.440
need to conserve battery or not. Oh wow, it's gonna

571
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:52.119
open right up.

572
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:52.880
Yeah.

573
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:13.360
These trees are massive.

574
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.280
Yeah, there's bigger.

575
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:19.960
I'm sure there are.

576
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.039
Alright. Can we see.

577
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:29.679
All that brush?

578
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.880
They're blocking.

579
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:34.519
What?

580
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.159
Let's see alright? Here is where you would see it?

581
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.599
Yeah, well on the trail that is the brush is

582
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:43.199
going up there.

583
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:55.000
I yeah, okay, why is there a piece of wood

584
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:55.920
on that tree like that?

585
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:06.119
There's some bears some then.

586
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:09.440
Oh that a bear does that?

587
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.000
Yeah? They eat the grub worms on the rout and

588
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:19.920
lawn black bear. Yeah, yeah, so far man whatever was

589
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.679
on here, somebody took off.

590
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.039
Oh it's a beautiful trail. Is this a mountain biking trail?

591
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.760
Yeah, they didn't see bil Okay, yep.

592
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.280
Yeah, they do a lot of that, and yep.

593
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.679
It's kind of dangerous too, because all of a sudden

594
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:38.199
they come whizzing and almost run into you. Or even

595
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.519
during hunt the season.

596
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:40.800
Take a quick quick.

597
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.079
So I'll try to go as far as you want,

598
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.400
but I just don't know how far it is over there.

599
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.719
Have grown up so much. But if you go up

600
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:54.639
there you can, or below maybe we could. I wonder

601
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.159
if I can get my daughter to drive us in

602
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:00.400
the road below. It's a steep hill, but it's a

603
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.639
nice flat trail to walk on. Even though it's steep.

604
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.000
On the side of the trail, we can we don't

605
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.719
have to work to walk out to it. It could

606
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:17.559
be better for me being sixty one and broken.

607
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:22.840
Right, well, this is really cool.

608
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:24.719
Oka is going to get a bunch with somebody.

609
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:32.280
Yep, right in time for the festival. Yeah, it was

610
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.039
right there, Yeah, right there. I just want to step

611
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:41.320
on it. That's so crazy. And yeah, that's where we.

612
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.960
And the only time I ever seen somebody camper was

613
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.800
for a couple of days at the end there, and

614
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.920
then they were gone with almost all they were still.

615
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.119
There, really their car was gone, but they left. Is

616
00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:00.159
it like they left in a hurry. They find a

617
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:01.960
lot of that in the land between the lakes too,

618
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.519
Like that Martin Groves guy and those guys you go,

619
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.840
You're like, screw it, nothing is worth me. I've heard

620
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:14.719
that happening to guys in Iowa too. They just like

621
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.400
rip down, the rip down, the tent, put in the car,

622
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:18.559
left everything else.

623
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.079
I am I'm not going to chase one of them

624
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:25.519
to the woodsturn and get a picture of it. I'll

625
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.599
try to get what I get when it comes out.

626
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.760
But then I'm if it's aggressive, I'm gone.

627
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:37.360
Yeah. If I can, well, that's that's a tricky thing.

628
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.039
I don't know, Like you probably can't run with that, right.

629
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.880
That's one of the things that bothered No, Cham, I

630
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:53.320
can't run. I'm stuck. I can hobble a little faster,

631
00:40:54.079 --> 00:41:01.920
but I can't run. And not just cool how this

632
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:03.360
all up fits together?

633
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:08.320
No, after you get you see the big picture makes sense.

634
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:08.719
Yeah.

635
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.480
We went way back in the woods one time where

636
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:14.559
we found a cave that my friend wanted to look at.

637
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.679
And we had a big overhang and a little waterfall,

638
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.159
and we built up rocks and built us a little

639
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.679
you know thing in there, and so we could take

640
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.679
a shower in the little waterfall and it was a

641
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:32.039
cool spot way the hell back in the woods. Wonder

642
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:39.320
a bit still in there. It was being dan by something.

643
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.760
In I don't think it's out of the question, dude.

644
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.280
Caves like that always, you know, freaking me out when

645
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.679
you could talk about going on them, and they especially

646
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:56.000
in a Bigfoot territory. I don't want to go in caves, dude. Nope.

647
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:10.519
M Yeah, I don't know how to feel about this

648
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:18.079
place up here, but I'm glad I got to share

649
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.639
the experience with a few people.

650
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.719
Seeing the I mean, seeing the evidence that we've seen

651
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.000
today is life changing for me. Like that whole banana thing.

652
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.440
That changes a lot of things for me.

653
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:34.880
Yeah, it's.

654
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:37.159
It's nuts, dude.

655
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:47.199
And it's time after time after time, whether it's woops, yells, screams, wars, tracks,

656
00:42:47.880 --> 00:43:00.880
M it's time after time after time. M. Yeah. I'm

657
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.119
wondering where we might have pushed him too, But it

658
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.519
couldn't have been far because that banana was still there,

659
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.119
Yes for you.

660
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.800
So the thing about the banana I'm going to bring

661
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:12.840
this up to Chad because it's his call because he

662
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.360
put it there. But that banana pill probably had some

663
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.039
kind of DNA on it if you think about it,

664
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.960
where they either had to open it with their hands

665
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.559
or like put it in their mouth to open it.

666
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.960
And there's a guy doing a You can send in

667
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.000
any bigfoot evidence to this guy in North Carolina state. No,

668
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.840
it doesn't cost anything, that's the thing. So any Joe

669
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.599
Schmoe can send in any evidence they have and they'll

670
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.679
test it DNA. And he's he's a good dude. He's

671
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.280
not like a you know, he's not like a whatever dude.

672
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.360
But he's Yeah, it's free and he's a good dude.

673
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:55.960
So bonds again.

674
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.119
Hey, they'll be trying to romanticize me. I went for you,

675
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.840
trust me, or you'll have to say addressed.

676
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.960
So don't worry about.

677
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:07.280
We.

678
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.159
Uh So we went up that trail over there where

679
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.800
you can see we did see what this looks pretty

680
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.320
close to another size track over there when you go

681
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.599
up the hill into the woods and there's like toes

682
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.320
pretty clear. Yeah, dude, but if it is a track

683
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:25.840
because he pointed that one out.

684
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.079
The tonics to his big toe is gone.

685
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:31.559
It's weird.

686
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.719
So the toes are there, Yeah, the big toes there,

687
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.719
and the little toes on the sod are there, but

688
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.119
the tonics of the big toe isn't there.

689
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.079
So all the toes were there except the one.

690
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.760
Next to the So he's been injured or it didn't show.

691
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:46.199
It's been injured.

692
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.440
So this has maybe another individually.

693
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.519
Yeah, I've been telling you, Ronnie, my eight is more

694
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.880
than your five. I never did.

695
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.639
I just had to go by what I was.

696
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.800
I know, I know, but I'm just I'm just Now

697
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.760
we're at seven different tracks.

698
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.559
Oh yeah, wow, because for this area, the.

699
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.199
One with the big toes, that was six. Now we're

700
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:08.719
at seven.

701
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.280
Yeah, there'd be two more different tracks. We're not familiar.

702
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.280
And what did I say to you at least eight? Right?

703
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:15.360
Yeah, yep.

704
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.719
I'm pretty good at sound man and in the world.

705
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.760
That's why I had confidence here. I just wasn't hearing

706
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.320
what you were hearing. Not that I doubted you, I

707
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.679
knew that, but you doubt me more than I doubt you.

708
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.960
No, I just because I like you. No, you don't

709
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.639
hack on people. I don't like I don't talk.

710
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:35.239
I don't. I don't think you're really gotting in you

711
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.400
to really try to get close to these things and

712
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.519
be able to Hey, I've been honestly about love one big,

713
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.760
loving family.

714
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.840
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

715
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.320
I've been honest about that the whole time. I don't

716
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.559
want to be lovey lovey with these things. I haven't changed,

717
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.079
or like we're just never gonna connect.

718
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.440
So oh you're you're connecting, but you're good for each

719
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:17.559
other because you have different viewpoints. So there's tracks, there's

720
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:24.679
food evidence, there's visual evidence, there's there's sound evidence, there's

721
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:31.679
breakage evidence, breakage evidence, there's like everything here. I think

722
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:36.119
the only thing there's no sound recorded yet here?

723
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.599
Right what we need people see?

724
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.320
But Chad's got my audio recorder up there, and I

725
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.480
would I would guess he I mean, how could he

726
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:45.800
not capture something last night?

727
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.159
I'm going to look into buying a pair of balla good.

728
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:49.920
I don't know how much is.

729
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.440
This was unusual to have this much activity with him

730
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.000
all at once. Yeah, and there may not be anything

731
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.280
again for the next five ten times you come in.

732
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.119
But there might be well, yeah, I mean they're already

733
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.920
has he said they were. He said, yesterday they were

734
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.840
ran out of here, and today that banana's been piled

735
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:11.239
in eight Yeah, obviously they're still in the half.

736
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.039
Halfway through the day they would run out.

737
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.119
Yeah, yeah, he said, Well after that incident that, you know,

738
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:21.639
they probably weren't here no more. They went off. They

739
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.320
just went up into brush and circled around.

740
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:26.639
He didn't go anywhere the banana.

741
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.679
They're still around here between here and that other spot.

742
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.119
But after that was over it, they left. I came

743
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.159
and I sit right here for at least two hours,

744
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.480
singing and doing my thing. And that's when I was

745
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:43.400
right behind me, after I've been here quite a while. Fact,

746
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:47.519
the twig snapped and then immediately over and there it

747
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.360
was loud in it, like a branch had really been snapped.

748
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.400
And we're probably getting I think something might have been

749
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:58.280
here while I was here, And then I was sitting

750
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.960
here after it, and I'm getting I'm thinking, why in

751
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.519
the hell am I here? Nothing's happening. That's when I

752
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.719
started talking that to him, I miss you. I wish

753
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.440
you'd get back to it, show me something, start singing

754
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.960
or something. And then that bird started going out and

755
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.880
I almost left because of it with I don't know

756
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.880
what if that was there mimicking and they were singing.

757
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.360
So I stayed and that bird come up twice within

758
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.639
two hours, singing for a while. But there's the only

759
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.960
sound from an animal in here, so I don't know.

760
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.119
But it was kind of encouraging. And then I see that,

761
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.719
but anything that's another signal that's encouraging.

762
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.920
I didn't lie to Ronnie when I brought him. I

763
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:40.079
didn't lie to anybody.

764
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.480
No, that's one thing about Dwayne. He won't lie. See

765
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.800
how you feel, and I don't lie. I have no reason.

766
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.360
I don't know. There's less stuff I would lie on.

767
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.239
That's too important to me. It's too serious, and I

768
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:56.360
take it seriously. I'm not gonna embellish or exaggerating. If

769
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:59.400
there's something i'm not sure, having it sounds, I'll make

770
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.719
it clear I'm not quite sure or whatever. But I

771
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.440
don't put something down as that's the way it is

772
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:06.440
when i'm not sure.

773
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:07.519
You know, you know what I mean.

774
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.360
You know you want to be as truthful as possible

775
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.760
as otherwise it's not credible. Nothing you're doing. Why are

776
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:15.760
you researching this? Goal? Are your life if you're not

777
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.559
gonna be credible, you know, it's stupid.

778
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.480
Can you share how we had talked over there and

779
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.159
you were like, talk to me later about this area?

780
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.639
Oh yeah, yeah, just so did you tell you? Yeah?

781
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.920
It was strange and well, there was a couple of things,

782
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:37.400
three instants that happened. I don't know. I don't know

783
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.159
if I remember the other one right off the bat.

784
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:45.199
The first one was, well, it was after we had

785
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:48.360
first our first experience and come the first time, I

786
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:51.519
come up with dune and we stayed out in the

787
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.880
bottoms all night, and then we had that to whistle

788
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.880
on both sides of the tent, and the twig stamp

789
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.719
and the whistles, then the little rocksby and hitting the

790
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:04.000
trees ahead of us that we're hiking out of there.

791
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.880
So the next day I came back by myself. He

792
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.119
didn't even know it, but I don't think when I

793
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.559
came back, and I came back with a big jar

794
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.079
of peanut butter, brand new. It hadn't been over me

795
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.199
and uh, I hiked down in there and the bottoms

796
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.960
and I set it up in the swampy area in

797
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:29.599
a tree not very high, but uh, I set it

798
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:35.320
up where we had heard the whistley. My daughter, huh

799
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:44.480
where we had the activity? Yeah, and uh yeah, oh boy,

800
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.760
she must have missed her daddy, of course her du No,

801
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:52.639
you probably coming coming to kick bigfoot. That gave the problem.

802
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:54.519
Someone's getting someone's getting it.

803
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.320
I've seen her get pissed off the bigfoot. The ladder

804
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:58.719
they got, the more pissed.

805
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.039
Off he was getting that around. Did you have to

806
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:01.559
say word?

807
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.719
I know? She Oh, she's gets so great, she thinks

808
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.800
the end of the time, she's she's got her ass covered.

809
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.360
What kind of nerve wrecking coming to the spot thinking

810
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:15.679
what if you're not even there?

811
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:16.000
No?

812
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:16.159
What?

813
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:18.079
Hello?

814
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.320
Nothing was way bigger than I thought it was. We

815
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.800
walked out there, he thought of track. Yeah, but we

816
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:28.360
walked out there and those bullhes are tall. I don't

817
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.639
know how big it was, but it was way bigger

818
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.199
than I thought. And the track is about eighteen but

819
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.519
that's what it looked like, maybe an older track, But

820
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.559
after going up there, those bushes are way, way, way,

821
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:42.159
way tall.

822
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.400
So well, I mean, I don't I'm like, you're the

823
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:45.920
one that's seen it.

824
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.639
I didn't say yeah, but it was a different light

825
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:48.800
when we got up here. Earlier.

826
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.679
I was like, what, wait a minute, where it jumped.

827
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.280
It looks like there's a track over there, and then

828
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.400
over here. You got to see this over here. It's

829
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:13.920
really cool. This will blow your mind. I saw this

830
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:21.519
and I was like, it's crazy. All right, So Chad

831
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:24.440
put fruit over here?

832
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:26.920
Yeah, that's right.

833
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:28.519
Where is it?

834
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:36.559
It's yep? Okay, So see see what you noticed in

835
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.039
this area about the fruit.

836
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:41.519
Sun is gone.

837
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.840
Okay, so you've got you've got apple, orange still there?

838
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:49.239
Orange there? Where's the banana?

839
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:50.840
The banana's gone?

840
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:52.239
The carter a little bit.

841
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.599
Oh no, I was eaten, so.

842
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.320
We're not gonna touch it. But the banana was eaten

843
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:04.119
and it was peeled, which that that's nuts, right, yeah,

844
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.679
because that's either like something had to have in his

845
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.840
mouth and just be like or had to like use

846
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:11.119
its fingers to peel.

847
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:11.639
It like that.

848
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:12.880
That blows my mind.

849
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:14.239
And that's pretty cool.

850
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.760
That's the craziest evidence I've ever seen. We also over there,

851
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.079
fifty yards we saw a group of trees that were

852
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.800
twisted off, thank you, twisted off close to the ground,

853
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:29.239
like a group of four or five, which is crazy.

854
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.280
I've never seen that either. Yeah, they do that, so

855
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.920
this whole place is just a different thing in the daytime.

856
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:40.159
It's a different thing at nighttime too.

857
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:44.039
Yeah, we saw a potential other track over by the trail.

858
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:44.800
We went up there too.

859
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.960
But now one, if it's a track, is missing the

860
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.239
tone next to its big toll, like it got injured

861
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:53.960
because the big till is there and then the side toes,

862
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:59.239
but the other toill is going. So that's a different

863
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.639
track of a different one. So that's what we're up

864
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.480
to number seven now, to challenge different tracks. That's true.

865
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.480
Crazy. I almost already going up to the other spot.

866
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.039
It wasn't sure if you guys want to check.

867
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.280
That, and we went, Yeah, we were there, turn around

868
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:18.639
and just checked the spot first, showed.

869
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:20.960
Those tracks is the one you found? This big toe?

870
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:21.679
They showed him.

871
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:22.159
That was cool.

872
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:26.079
Those sticks, Yeah found it, so it was like easier.

873
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.039
That was very evident.

874
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:34.480
Nothing touched the fruit at all. But yeah, they left

875
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.920
those on the ground except for the bananas that they peeled,

876
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.239
and they never left the banana pel before they took

877
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:46.039
it all. Yeah, that's the first time the banana pills.

878
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.440
Oh yeah, heads up, I've been field recording your dad,

879
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.880
and so it is on right now.

880
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:58.039
That's alright.

881
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:03.159
Cool. Well, so even though there's releases, I always try

882
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:08.679
to tell people every time, So there's I like you, yeah, yeah.

883
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.800
Thank you would do nothing to hurt you at all.

884
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.360
And I know a lot of people say that, but

885
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:16.840
I truly mean it. I wouldn't try to get nothing,

886
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:24.039
that pull nothing on you. We're just sharing.

887
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:33.320
Actually, problem there is I'm a third of me is

888
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.400
more romantic than you are. You wouldn't identify with that.

889
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.719
These guys. These guys have been going at each other

890
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.599
all day. It's pretty wild, the best of pals.

891
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.239
He just doesn't get it, and I don't understand why.

892
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.840
So you you are, you're bartender at that bar at

893
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:56.760
the pizza place. Oh the pizza place where all okay,

894
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.920
which is we were talking about that earlier, where like

895
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.639
a lot of the loggers and old timers are there.

896
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:08.280
Now we've got lots of like old saw blades and stuff.

897
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.719
And there's this really old clock which they they finally

898
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:13.800
fix it to where it works, but they didn't use

899
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.320
the old mechanism in it. They put like a newer

900
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.400
one in it. And it's so it's this big clock

901
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.000
and it's got like these.

902
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.679
Couple of knights my uncle made hanging on the wall

903
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:24.719
his uncle made.

904
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:28.679
There's there's Old Saws, one of the guys that he

905
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.000
still comes in occasionally, but they move so don't see

906
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:34.360
him very often. Boots are up there too, like.

907
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.559
They're really obviously anywhere.

908
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:39.360
I haven't seen him recently.

909
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:41.920
Well, if you do, I want, I want to talk

910
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.280
to him. I wanted to see if people talk to well,

911
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.480
I haven't talked to him in a while. But that's

912
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:49.519
the guy was talking about. I didn't mention his name

913
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.960
on your thing, but you know, I don't want nobody

914
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:57.440
bothering his old dad or anything trying to unless they

915
00:56:58.039 --> 00:56:58.800
say it's okay.

916
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:03.960
So yeah, so you said Brocken and which.

917
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:05.920
Instead.

918
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:14.920
Yeah, they got lots of stuff. Oh the footprint. I sorry, yeah, sorry,

919
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:15.360
ron Ago.

920
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:16.760
We were talking.

921
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:22.800
We're talking about it early footprint stories and stuff from

922
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:23.159
the area.

923
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.000
They got pins on the spots the areas and flags

924
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.599
and notes and professional research.

925
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.920
You know, they're the guys you want to know, probably

926
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.480
for the area, said their documentary.

927
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.199
I'm just kidding. I can I don't go around bragging

928
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:43.760
about how much an experts dad.

929
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.159
He was like the mechanic in town that did all

930
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:47.519
that that's what his dad did.

931
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.159
Anyway, Okay, I was wondering before we lose it. It

932
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.280
doesn't matter to me, but oh yeah, I was talking

933
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:03.480
about the the woo stuff. I don't like to get

934
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:06.960
into that too much. People might think I'm weird or something.

935
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:13.239
But there was some strange things that happened. I think

936
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.320
I got it written down, but I got it written there.

937
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.480
It's not anything conclusive the way I worded it. Whatever.

938
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:25.119
I think it's all right. But anyway, the first one was, uh,

939
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:29.280
we had had the stay. The first time we stay

940
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.559
all night was in the bottoms, and we'd had action

941
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.079
in the swampy area. We had a middle of the

942
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:44.639
night sometimes twig snap shrill shrill whistle, I guess you

943
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.440
would call it. And a moment later on the other side,

944
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:51.679
same thing twig snap was so. And then the rocks,

945
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.000
little rocks lightly hitting the trees ahead of us as

946
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:58.119
we were hiking up. I come back the next day,

947
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.280
I go down in there and I got a big

948
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:06.519
build of peanut butter MHM, and I set it in

949
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:11.079
the area when we first heard the twig snap, yeah,

950
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:14.400
and I put in a tree so and the cross

951
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:17.760
thing put a big jar peanut butter had never gonna

952
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.480
set it there. I leave it there, and I come

953
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:28.119
back the next day, go down there, and I there's

954
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:32.599
a there's a trail. Actually, I think it's a bike trail.

955
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:38.960
What what whistle?

956
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:40.199
Oh?

957
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:44.159
Really we talked whistling and it starts whistling. That's an interesting.

958
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.000
But So.

959
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.440
I go down in there and where i'd put the

960
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:56.000
pan butter. I go. I'm on the trail, the main trail,

961
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:59.960
bike trail, and the little trail goes off back in there.

962
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.400
It's twenty feet back and where I said. So I

963
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:06.880
go in the trail and I go back to check

964
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:11.639
on the peanut. Well, the peanut butter is gone, the

965
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:15.280
whole jar. We always do this when she comes up here.

966
01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:20.880
Don't pay any attention to them, and it's moving. It's

967
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:22.280
more important me or Bigfoot.

968
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:23.639
Well, I'm to.

969
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:24.039
Listen to you.

970
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:26.360
It sounds like your girlfriend Bigfoot is.

971
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.400
Make her jealous. She thinks I got company, somebody may

972
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.039
like me, and she made me. I'm telling you, I

973
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:35.800
know how this romantic goes more than you do. You

974
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:40.920
make them jealous just getting shirt, but you're not getting

975
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:45.599
the other birds. Sound with it right, It's different if

976
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:49.119
if they know that we have changed, and we're directing

977
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.800
our attention to them. It's better to just keep doing

978
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:53.360
nothing and.

979
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:56.639
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

980
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:13.679
Yeah, it is.

981
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:15.079
It's like you're watching TV.

982
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:18.400
It's really nice, so we can talk about it.

983
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.320
You're not like, get super focused.

984
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.800
And just keep doing what you're doing. Relax, be genuine,

985
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:26.840
be yourself. I am doing what I know, but I'm

986
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.920
getting interrupted with my story because there's something more important

987
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:33.920
than me. Go ahead, really bothered my ego?

988
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:38.360
Go ahead, and I got the camera over there.

989
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.719
So anyway, I go back after I put the peanut butter.

990
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.239
The next day, I go right to the trail and

991
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.480
I go back in and the peanut butter jar is gone.

992
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.719
I don't know anything about bears, just swear he would

993
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.679
have come in handy. There's nothing in there. If a

994
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.039
bear would have got Duane. If bear would have got

995
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:01.239
that peanut butter, would there been evidence or would he

996
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:02.960
have just grabbed it and walked off with it?

997
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:06.039
Bear grab it, he would have chewed it up.

998
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:07.719
So there would have been evidence there.

999
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:13.960
Right, even even if a bear had gotten it somehow

1000
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.960
and not tore it up there and picked it up

1001
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.119
and carried it away. You would still see some something

1002
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:21.400
like as if it was on the ground and it

1003
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:22.119
was trying to.

1004
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.199
Do something too And I think it was too big.

1005
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.159
It was a big jarp in it, but for a

1006
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:30.800
raccoon to take or anything. So anyway, it's gone and

1007
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:34.360
there's nothing there and no sign that it was over there. Now,

1008
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.000
now get this, I don't know then it means anything.

1009
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.719
And I explained that, but I just happened this way.

1010
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.159
I go out on the trail, out to the main

1011
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:47.239
bike trail, and right there, stepping where I had stepped

1012
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:53.039
coming in, is a tablespoon, nice and shiny like it's

1013
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:59.840
brand new, sitting right there right and I cannot imagine

1014
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:04.159
stepping over it coming in, but it was right there clear. Now,

1015
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:05.199
what was guy?

1016
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.960
You were talking about your peanut butter? Oh?

1017
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:12.199
Yeah? The homeless guy turned and brought a spoon back

1018
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:13.840
and set it down to give me a sitting. Only

1019
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:18.719
he wanted more peanut butter there. He's going, I'm just playing,

1020
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:21.920
But I what's the chances? That's weird?

1021
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:22.119
Now?

1022
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.239
And it's a tablespoon that would be for peanut butter

1023
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:29.559
there and the peanut butter is gone, which I can't explain.

1024
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.639
Did you leave a spoon with the No, I didn't

1025
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:36.320
bring any spoon. It's the weird thing. So I'm thinking

1026
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.119
if if it was like that, if something did put

1027
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:41.639
it there for a sign. It's something maybe got out

1028
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:45.119
of a campground or something, you know, But I don't know. Anyway,

1029
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.280
it's something that I don't know if it means anything

1030
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.239
or not, but I but I'm putting it in.

1031
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:51.480
Steal a spoon.

1032
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:54.599
Yeah, but what a coincidence.

1033
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:56.199
I doubt.

1034
01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:01.159
If a spoon, it would probably keep its.

1035
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.159
Nester would be interesting. You put it right on the

1036
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.760
trail where I right where it steps off where the

1037
01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:08.960
trail connects with the put it right there, and the

1038
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:13.079
peanut butters set up there the day before. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay,

1039
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:19.039
So anyway, I don't know. The second one was Dwayne's

1040
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:23.239
the witness to this. We're coming out of them and

1041
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.960
uh the way I had been before. He's leading out

1042
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.679
and there's a big tree down and there's room to

1043
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.920
crawl under, but you know, it's just a big tree

1044
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:37.119
that's down across the path a way to get out,

1045
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:41.079
and uh, so we were trying to think of we're

1046
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.320
looking for the ends where we go. He can't really

1047
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:48.079
get down too little and doing that and trying to

1048
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:52.599
around or something, so we're kind of we take a break.

1049
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:56.239
We're standing before this big tree and I'm looking off

1050
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:06.079
and there's like a pathway a clearing going through where

1051
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.760
you can see and I don't know what the area

1052
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:11.599
looks like. I haven't seen the trees in there and

1053
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:15.159
stuff before. And I can see up there it's a

1054
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.800
long ways away, like a block away or something, standing

1055
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:22.400
right in the middle on the top of this pathway

1056
01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:27.440
like an alleyway, just all the way through, no trees, nothing,

1057
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:31.400
And this looks like a bigfoot standing there. I showed

1058
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:34.599
him and said, come here and look at this, and

1059
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:37.079
he said, yeah, it looks like a big foot. Correct

1060
01:05:37.119 --> 01:05:39.440
me if I'm saying it wrong, I will.

1061
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:40.480
You can count on that.

1062
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.280
Yeah, I'll have a counter or two. But I uh,

1063
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.639
I looked like the shoulders, the head, the arms are

1064
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:51.559
down every I mean, it looked like a big foot,

1065
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:52.800
but just standing stoic.

1066
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:54.960
Yeah, i'd been able to tell you more of it

1067
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:56.599
was still there when we got up there.

1068
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:58.440
But that thing yet, I know, but don't get ahead

1069
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:02.480
of me. But it's standing there. I forget Was it

1070
01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:05.760
the trees that were moving that were along the side,

1071
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:08.400
or was it that was moving a little? It was

1072
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:09.280
the trees, wasn't it?

1073
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:10.880
It was probably all the above.

1074
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.679
No, there was one of the other wasn't moving at all.

1075
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:17.559
I think it was the bigfoot. Wasn't really movie or

1076
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:19.480
maybe it was the big foot that I don't know.

1077
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:21.719
I don't really that's why you should write down.

1078
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:26.079
But uh, you guys should be taking a journal of everything.

1079
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:26.440
I know.

1080
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:33.440
The timing was so timing of things important. Really, I

1081
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:36.039
didn't realize how important timing is it write and timing

1082
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:37.000
down on certain.

1083
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:42.320
Things, everything like weather, the moon, temperature, all that stuff.

1084
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:45.280
Everything's important. I didn't. I didn't really realize. I'm not

1085
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:50.880
really what do you think I am? But I so

1086
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:54.119
I'm seeing that, and I call him over. He looks,

1087
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.880
and you've seen it right now? Get this.

1088
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.239
Well, I thought I seen what you were talking about.

1089
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:02.079
And you said it looks like a big foot.

1090
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:04.360
I said, definitely standing there.

1091
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:07.719
Now, I don't know if it's a couple of weeks

1092
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:09.559
later or whatever it was. We're back when we go

1093
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.119
down to the bonnet, we're coming out of there on

1094
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:17.079
the same way and we're blocked by that tree, so

1095
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.559
I'm looking for that. He didn't bring his binoculars that day.

1096
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.440
I wish you would have, But I'm looking. There is

1097
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:29.320
no alley way, nothing, It's all trees, solid across. There's

1098
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:31.679
not no matter how you look at. Why they were angled.

1099
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:34.639
I know exactly the positions was in to see this.

1100
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:38.119
There was no alleyway, there was no way to look

1101
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:40.719
through anything. And I asked him to come over and

1102
01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:44.639
take a look. What do you think of this? Nothing there,

1103
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.719
we're not There is nothing to look at but solid

1104
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:52.239
trees all the way to explain that one, And he

1105
01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:52.920
witnessed that.

1106
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:55.320
I don't know what to make of it.

1107
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:57.679
Yeah, that's cool you both witnessed it.

1108
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:00.599
Yeah, otherwise I probably wouldn't say anything.

1109
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:03.320
And on one of the places where you got to

1110
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:07.920
duck down to go under it or over it, there

1111
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:10.880
was you could see where because there was moss around it,

1112
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:14.320
it was a handprint. Remember you left that out. You

1113
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:16.960
can't tell them about the handprint where it was on

1114
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:22.760
that branch by that log there was. Yeah, there was

1115
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:25.920
a handprint where it had used that to either go

1116
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:27.520
up or under.

1117
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.600
That's why a journal comes in really handy, because like no.

1118
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:35.159
I I write down everything about my stuff in Iowa,

1119
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.520
and I would have forgotten half the details because it's

1120
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.560
from a few years ago. Yeah, like I've been writing

1121
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.039
down stuff from this weekend.

1122
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:51.039
Yeah, I'm just I'm just dysfunctional, always been that way.

1123
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:54.479
There's so many things in my life that have seen

1124
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.520
the sun usual on there one time events and I've

1125
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.880
never recorded, never had a camera, and I just just

1126
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.720
any everything I've got is in my head. I've never

1127
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.359
taken notes, nothing, And it's really kind of dumb.

1128
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:12.479
But well, and you know why, because if something happens

1129
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:16.760
to you, then the legacy of this area just dies,

1130
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:20.680
except for it's with Dwayne and it's with some other

1131
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:23.199
people now. But like if you write it all down,

1132
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:24.279
then that's something you could pull.

1133
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.840
I've got this pretty much. I think I've got this

1134
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.039
completed in the book thing.

1135
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:31.079
Okay, all of this, gotcha.

1136
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.359
I got a lot of stuff. It's just about complete.

1137
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:38.119
I don't know, but I think by the time right now,

1138
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:39.600
I've probably got three hundred pages.

1139
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:43.079
I can't wait for you to get that out.

1140
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:48.439
Yeah, but it sounds crazier than this stuff. Anyway, I'm

1141
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:50.079
going to do it. I don't care what anybody thinks,

1142
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:52.640
but it's all down and this will be down and

1143
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:54.039
all of it.

1144
01:09:56.119 --> 01:10:00.560
So when he was telling his good sorry, I have stories, but.

1145
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.800
You can't interrupt me anytime because I don't shut up,

1146
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:05.920
which I appreciate.

1147
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:09.840
You are the most one of the most amazing interviews

1148
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:10.520
I've ever had.

1149
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.960
I am so flattered that is going to go right

1150
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.560
to my head. I know, well, I'm gonna have an

1151
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:16.920
eagle like you won't imagine.

1152
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:21.199
But I so while he was talking, we were hearing

1153
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:26.279
the same sound that you've experienced before in this area,

1154
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:30.760
which we attribute the whistle, we attribute to the bigfoot

1155
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:37.399
in this area, right yeah, which you also said really

1156
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:41.159
tends to happen when you show up on this on

1157
01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:41.920
this scene.

1158
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.399
I don't think I've ever been here and not heard

1159
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:45.880
the listen.

1160
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.520
I think they think she's prettier than I am. I

1161
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.279
think you're right jealous.

1162
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:53.000
She was.

1163
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.760
We were over there, right over there, and the birds

1164
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.279
were chirping over there, and she went from here over

1165
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.119
chill about thirty or sixty feet before because she was

1166
01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:06.199
listening to them, and they started. If I remember, she

1167
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:10.920
went do in a certain troup pattern sounded to me

1168
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:12.720
like they were repeating that pattern.

1169
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.439
And in fact, she was here yesterday when all that

1170
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:18.439
happened in the roar too. That's the first time she

1171
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.560
got to hear the roar. But she was here. I

1172
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:25.199
could have been why they were there, and that could

1173
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:26.880
have been why they got worked up like they did

1174
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:27.680
the last time.

1175
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:32.520
Yes, she was here, that's possibility, I guess.

1176
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:36.079
But they tend to like her. Oh, I mean, we

1177
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:40.479
had experiences without her, bit man, the whistle action and

1178
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:41.680
always happens.

1179
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:41.880
More.

1180
01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:46.399
People present are Ronnie Rosamond Twain and Denise Twain's daughter.

1181
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.960
So the group the night we had the deal before

1182
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.800
all of this we're talking about. Now we're back and

1183
01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:56.439
then with a tent when I did the sound that

1184
01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:59.560
I guess they didn't like. They were coming from long

1185
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:03.560
ways that way, hollering a screaming, coming this way. So

1186
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:05.840
a month later whatever I'm talking, man, we come up

1187
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.840
in the daytime and she came out. They came up

1188
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:14.239
in her jeep and over there we're standing over there

1189
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:20.520
and after this chirping here, squirrels started coming off back

1190
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:23.000
in here. Then Dwayne says or something I handed this way.

1191
01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:28.000
We all five of them with the owl. The raven

1192
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:35.960
coyote sound with it. What sounded like Franny chimpanzees or

1193
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:38.800
something on a frenzy. They're hollering, a screaming. There was

1194
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.119
the same sounds this the night, only in the daytime,

1195
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:44.439
and when they came and they were coming this way,

1196
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:46.319
and then they left and night I stayed here, That's

1197
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:51.239
when I stayed here and things happened back here. But yeah,

1198
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:56.199
so were they connected the chirping besides these five connected

1199
01:12:56.279 --> 01:13:00.319
with him? Somehow? It looks like maybe it's.

1200
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.680
The same whistle chirps that we heard in the bottom too.

1201
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.800
It's the same whistle. It's not an extravagant whistle. It's

1202
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:06.119
just a.

1203
01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:18.279
It went. However, you whistled. That's crazy. Wow, was interested

1204
01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:19.560
loud yet.

1205
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:25.800
The sound that you made that you're just pay's gonna

1206
01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.279
do it. I'm not saying to do it, but I'm

1207
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:31.199
just saying for me to remember. Was it the Sierra sounds?

1208
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:32.039
Oh?

1209
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:33.600
No, no, because I don't think I don't know if

1210
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:34.640
you actually ever said.

1211
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:39.279
There's one on Yes, I have. Uh, there's some sounds,

1212
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:43.760
the more aggressive sounds on that tape that they had. Uh, yeah,

1213
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:44.880
it's like one of them.

1214
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.520
We heard the sound.

1215
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.560
Did you do it, but you did it with yourself right.

1216
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:53.479
You didn't play recording Because Dwayne and his dad got

1217
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.000
in the tent. I was still outside. It was getting dusk,

1218
01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.279
and I asked him what kind of sound he s

1219
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:02.439
heard over the years here, and he's come off with some.

1220
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.720
So I wanted to share that sound which I heard

1221
01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:10.960
right next to my tent in northern California.

1222
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:10.640
And.

1223
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.680
I come off with it and was twenty minutes. The

1224
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:19.079
whole group of screaming and hollering their head are away

1225
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:22.239
after I've made that sound. But the sound is, yes,

1226
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:25.880
like one of the sounds on the Sheer Sounds, but

1227
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.359
it was I'm gonna do it lightly, but I'm scared

1228
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:34.880
to do it like louder la. Oh yeah, like you

1229
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:38.479
started tempting scaring me yesterday before because you were leaving

1230
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:40.560
and leaving me here. This' here the sound. Know you

1231
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:43.359
were here. It sounds they were making, yestay, tell me

1232
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:46.159
your friends with us, I know. So you're gonna leave

1233
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:50.520
those sounds that are sound kind of agitated or something

1234
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:52.960
before you leave and while I'm gonna be alone. Thanks

1235
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:53.319
a lot.

1236
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:56.960
Sound you want to make those sounds in the world.

1237
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.199
I don't want to make those sounds. You guys were

1238
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:02.560
making the sounds. Oh my good, a good two of them. Anyway,

1239
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:11.640
it's it's uh yeah, like that and only extremely loud.

1240
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:12.239
That's solid.

1241
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:15.680
And it just did that loud.

1242
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:16.600
I did it loud.

1243
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.560
Within fifteen minutes, we were surrounded.

1244
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:22.399
Really, so I think the Bigfoot that was by my

1245
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:26.439
temp many years before in the northern California may have

1246
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:29.399
been cussing me out or something like he wasn't happy

1247
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.840
with me there, and I think me repeating here.

1248
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:36.239
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1249
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.560
It was just sound like I'm telling them like I

1250
01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:57.600
don't want you here or something, you know what I mean.

1251
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:00.760
It's like I challenged them, just like he said the

1252
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.600
next morning they did that, I said, because oh yeah,

1253
01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.439
he said me the next morning, I'm trying to rash

1254
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.439
the lines because we're afraid to get out of our tent.

1255
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:11.199
We weren't going to get out here even after they

1256
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.800
left that night. Oh hell, yes, you'd really.

1257
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.479
We're here for that. That would be wouldn't be up

1258
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:20.439
here now probably not no, no, no, she'd I.

1259
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:24.239
Already won't bring my kids up here at all because

1260
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:27.760
of that story. Not even during the daytime, I'm fine.

1261
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.119
Daytime cool starts getting dark out, I just want to leave.

1262
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:32.039
I don't want to be here.

1263
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:35.119
That's why I sat in the car last night.

1264
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:35.359
Dad.

1265
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:37.119
It's like, oh, it's like we're wait longer.

1266
01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:40.159
I'm like, okay, that's they can sneak up on as

1267
01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:42.520
it's too dark. I said they can't. I said they

1268
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:45.920
got some night vision. I said we can see him coming.

1269
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:48.560
After he said that, I felt a little bit better,

1270
01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:54.760
but I still stayed to goes.

1271
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:56.760
Hey, you don't have to say things you don't have

1272
01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:58.680
to say sometimes, like.

1273
01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:01.880
What like don't count on it, don't count out with

1274
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:07.439
these guys. Shut Oh okay, I got it. I'm a

1275
01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:17.079
little slow sometimes I get it after the fact. I

1276
01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:20.279
didn't get it either. The next morning was there and

1277
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:23.159
I thank god because we hadn't had that kind of

1278
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:27.199
experience so extreme. I mean, they've been benign, you know,

1279
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.560
and now they're freaking acting like they want to tear

1280
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:34.159
us apart. So I asked. I said to Duayane, I said,

1281
01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:37.520
before we left, we was getting out of there next morning.

1282
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:43.119
But what was it about? Was it because of the bananas?

1283
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:46.960
They were gone? When the track he found there and

1284
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:50.159
we put bananas up. The next morning, the track was

1285
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:52.319
coming away from the tree and the bananas were gone,

1286
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.159
but it was a smaller track, and that's why we

1287
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:59.239
camped here because of that. Then that happened that night.

1288
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.239
I'm thinking the next morning, I'm trying to rationalize this,

1289
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:05.880
and I said, I wonder if that because he was younger,

1290
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:08.840
if he turned and got ur bananas, took it home

1291
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:13.159
the old man, and maybe the old man was reprimanded

1292
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.159
and he got ticked off that he took the fruit

1293
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:20.279
from the humans. Right, That's when I'm trying thinking. And

1294
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:23.079
he says, no, no, he says it was about you.

1295
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:27.840
And I said what He says, they came here for you,

1296
01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:33.399
And I felt that the cold go down my back.

1297
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:36.680
I said me. He says, yeah, that sound you made.

1298
01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:39.079
He says it wasn't twenty minutes they were headed this way.

1299
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:44.159
He says, you challenged them. And I thought that makes sense,

1300
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:46.439
more sense than anything right on.

1301
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:50.119
Thing that I can make. That's the only way I

1302
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:51.079
can rationalize it.

1303
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:53.560
And then I, well, you don't.

1304
01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:55.960
Really hear a lot of people having bigfoot stories like that,

1305
01:18:56.119 --> 01:19:00.760
where there's that many and they're surrounded and they didn't

1306
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:03.119
really not a lot.

1307
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:03.760
Yeah, you're right.

1308
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:04.840
No, I don't hear a lot.

1309
01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:10.520
Because the person that sees that bigfoot over there doesn't

1310
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:11.680
see the one that's there.

1311
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.960
Ye're in there, I know, and there.

1312
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:17.560
You only find out that they're there if you try

1313
01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:20.199
to take them out and then the other ones show

1314
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:23.279
up and then you're missing for on one is usually

1315
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:23.760
how it goes.

1316
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.119
Yeah, they got a triangular thing. You're focused on one,

1317
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:29.840
you don't realize the other two behind you.

1318
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:34.279
That's the way, kind of like those lizards in Jurassic

1319
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:35.760
the raptors.

1320
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:41.680
It's totally like the raptors. Yeah, but these things have

1321
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:46.000
a heart that's different and they can be passionate. Oh

1322
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.039
my gosh, you ain't gonna get it. Every I did

1323
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.399
about three months courting with him right over there, courting.

1324
01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:59.479
Yeah, okay, Well I know you spend a long time

1325
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:02.199
trying to get back in good graces after.

1326
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:04.279
Yeah, And I didn't know that was going to happen, right.

1327
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:08.760
That took a lot of nerve. But I the only

1328
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.399
thing that give me the encouragement of that was just

1329
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:15.680
they be positive and have something that might change the

1330
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:19.880
dynamics and what's the simplest way and something might be

1331
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.680
effective and that's the guitar music saying, and I know

1332
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:26.960
that's what did it. I was still bringing the field up, but.

1333
01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:29.039
That's when we would hear sounds when we were just

1334
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:34.600
sitting around the campfire having a good time. That's all

1335
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:35.800
we were doing. And then.

1336
01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:41.159
The hell is that sound like like yesterday? I you know,

1337
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:46.319
I can't say it's conclusive. But after they left, I

1338
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:50.640
was here for a good two hours, uh, singing and playing.

1339
01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:54.920
Nothing happened, just dead silent. Yeah, And after an hour

1340
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:58.680
or so, th gosh, I'm wasting my time kind of,

1341
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:03.840
so I started talking to him. It's like, I miss you.

1342
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:07.079
I want to be like I want it to be

1343
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:10.720
like it was before. You know, I'm just talking and stuff.

1344
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:12.039
I really like you.

1345
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:12.680
I love you.

1346
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.119
I miss you. I like somebody heard me. They know

1347
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.640
I was insane, but I I'm doing this. I'm really

1348
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:21.880
trying to feel it and get it back. I'm passionate

1349
01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:24.159
about it. I do. I want the relationship back the

1350
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:26.720
way it was. It was great, and we got all

1351
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:29.760
this turmoil. They're screaming, they're howling over there and back

1352
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:35.479
and forth and all that, you know, agitated, and nothing happened.

1353
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.119
I said, well, I said, well, whoop, whoop, I started

1354
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.680
doing that nothing. I said, well, sing to me, just

1355
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:50.520
do something, sing And that's when one lone bird and

1356
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.680
the way it was it was like singing almost kind of,

1357
01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:59.840
but it was a bird, and I thought, that's it.

1358
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:04.079
There's wildlife in here. That means they're not here, right.

1359
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:06.520
I was gonna leave, and I thought, oh, it's only

1360
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.960
one song. What if it's one of them mimical bird

1361
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:12.039
that's singing and letting me know that way.

1362
01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:14.199
I do that all the time now, and now I'm

1363
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.960
always trying to figure out whether so I stayed animal

1364
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.399
I'm hearing if I'm really hearing that.

1365
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.880
I stayed over another hour because of that. And I

1366
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:25.359
was singing and then I stop and singing this stuff,

1367
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.439
and I tried to talk, and uh, the bird went

1368
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.239
on for a little while I was singing. Then they stopped,

1369
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:33.239
and then it was about a half hour later. I

1370
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:38.039
was doing this because whoop, whoop, you know, sing singing

1371
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.920
to me, and then the birds started up again. So

1372
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.399
I did it twice, but it was the only sound

1373
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:46.159
of an animal in here. But I was here over

1374
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:48.560
two hours. I stayed here longer because of that bird.

1375
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:52.239
But I don't know for sure, but I'm I like

1376
01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:54.880
to think positive that. Yeah, they were letting me know

1377
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:59.560
we're still okay. They're agitated, but we're okay. As long

1378
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:01.560
as me and them are okay, I don't care. Well,

1379
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:03.399
I do care. I don't want them to have a

1380
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:08.199
bad time, but as long as we're okay, I feel better,

1381
01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:13.760
you know. And then I see that banana peel out

1382
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:15.680
there the way it is. I've never seen that.

1383
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:17.680
Did you hear that a raven?

1384
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:17.880
Right?

1385
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:20.920
Yeah? Yeah, maybe it's a raven maybe.

1386
01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.439
And it sounded pretty normal.

1387
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:26.920
Yeah, it just sounded a little normal. And it's up

1388
01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:27.520
high in the air.

1389
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:32.319
Yeah, it sounded a little yeah, like it could go,

1390
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.880
like it could go either way, but high in the air.

1391
01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:39.960
It doesn't mean much to me anymore after that thing

1392
01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:42.439
I seen about him climbing to the top of them

1393
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.920
redwood trees in California.

1394
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:46.439
So.

1395
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:53.239
They could they could very well be one of them, exactly.

1396
01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:56.920
But anyway, the banana peel, the waste