Out in the Woods with Ronnie and Dewayne, Pt. 3 | Oakridge, Oregon

0:00 Yep, you hey, will leave your keys in here? Yep, Because as I I'm not as comfortable as everybody else happy. Yeah, I don't know about the career grade. The mantris might gidding because you get turned around too bad and whatever. I bet it's gonna be comforting for him to know that I'm the one who's gonna try to save his life. Well, you run from your girlfriend. Try to talking to them. Sweet, Please don't kill him. Please, he's my friend. That's a way about friend.

0:56 He's he acts like he's on me, but he's really nice. He's like you guys. Really, he'd like to like you. I don't want to tell him that he. Loves you, just he's badful to tell. If he'd pop out and give me a visual. And out scary, Well, if you'd start thinking positive things about them and how nice they are, maybe it could go that way. Do you ever think of that? No? I don't, because you just don't get you keep saying I'm I'm not.

1:39 Do you think about sweet dreams and brain them candy and flowers? I don't even know what sweet dreams are. I was, I know see what I mean? Don't hurt you and I'm afraid until you find out there's bigfoot in it and then I get it how that was. But you know, looking at it in the earlier light, that thing was bigger than I thought it was. What the thing that ran out of the back of. There, Dude, I gotta walk back there. That was way bigger than I thought it was. It was just a different light. It looked like a small bush that is not small here standing on in the game.

2:32 Okay, something was Definitely they could be Chad though, but it almost looks like maybe, I don't know, something's kind of walking to here. There a lot of something walk They didn't have to come in here and chop this up like this. Why did you do that? When they hung a sign up for to keep out of here, fire didn't come over here. Why did they wreck the camp? Right? It's like they just want. To keep us. They didn't have to do all this. You don't fire a cane here, but all over there, man, this is I was not expecting. That's taller than I thought. That thing is bigger than I thought. If that don't make me nervous.

3:16 All right, It's funny that Chad was walking back here in the uh one of his getting dark. I only wished I could shut it off and it don't bother me like these guys. Yeah, maybe I just don't drink en up where. I don't care. I don't know it scares me, right, I don't. I don't feel like it wants to be my friend. Okay, So tell me now that we're at the area. So it we heard the branches break from the starting over and then we listen and he just stopped moving and start talking. And then there's a snap over here, and we'd listen and they kept doing that and it got us in. You know, there another snap, and and my daughter got up to look with me. I was looking already, and she got up and turned this direction and we didn't see nothing then. But then all of a sudden, crash crash, crash, crash, crash, and I see this black shape weep out of this stuff and go that way.

4:32 Wow. I was thinking, is that a bear because it looks small right, but being right here next to it, yeah, Uh, the other thing wasn't as small as I thought. These are pretty tall bushes right here, buddy. Uh huh, So that thing was way bigger than I thought it was. Hey, checked us out that's kind of a weird area. So it kind of over It's like it looks like a little oak track right there, like a baby oak. That just looks like what's kind of worn down? What to do? Maybe something digging for something or who knows.

5:14 Usually it's only like a pollen of mushroom out of the ground. Your hope. Right, We usually dig a hole. So can we find you hiding out here? Where? Whereabout where it came out? And see what opened area right to where we just came out of. See that? Oh yeah, so okay, so right that way is the which area where we just came out of? Down there? Okay, it's all open to see how it opens?

5:54 Yeah, I get it, okay, yep, yeah, very interesting. Yeah. I don't want to know how big this thing was. I don't know. Does that look weird right there? That's a possibility, Yeah, good possibility. That almost looks like a left foot yep, with toe toe toe. He that looks like a left foot. Good eye, buddy, that looks like a left foot, good.

6:36 Eye, which I mean it would fit if we know they were in this area, they were jumping around, jumping on the ground, you would expect there to be some marking in the ground. Yeah, but unfortunately most of the ground is so hard you can't really make it out. But there's almost looks like something right there. It's just not the full foot right. It's interesting, but it don't quite look like a bear track. Yeah.

7:17 You know, sometimes when a bear's walking and it's muddy, it'll his back foot will step into his front foot, and it'll look like a track. Uh huh, yeah, yeah, have a double step. You gotta look close to see if there's all marks and and all that, and if there's a bear track in front of it and a bear track behind it, it's not a big foot track. Okay, oh totally yeah, bear track. There's a lot of people. That this is where it jumped out of and then took off that way. Very interesting, but to me it looked little. It wasn't little. Yeah, it was just the difference in the light where the sun was that. Yeah, I'm not realizing how all these groups right here were.

8:06 Holy Molly, Okay, just so we can remember, I almost want to market yeah right here right, yep. Let's man, I wish I had these. Yeah, we can just like stick a stick out of the ground by it. Yep. And like I'm a guy, I will try to try I'll try to talk myself out of every evidence thing that I find. You know, Yeah, but like that just feels that just looks like, you.

8:54 Know, I try to rationalize it. I want to walk around this kind of border. Right, don't. But my problem is is now I'm positive there is no. Belief about it. Not for me. What I heard something is he singing yes? Cool?

9:36 So if you start to hear stuff, it's because Ronnie has started to play his guitar over to the corner, which we'll go over to in a minute. H It feels like this is kind of a some kind of trail a little bit. It is. We're all through here, yeah, and then that right there. I mean, so let me point out something weird. Ready, all right, see that trail X Yeah, exactly right, But it's like I don't know how far do you take it?

10:24 Right? And then it's like, well that kind of looks worn down, but I don't know if I would go that far. And it's just weird. Man, we found that big track. I believe it was right over here. Oh really, because we walked all the way around that you're talking about the twenty three inch one. Really. Oh man, wow, this is incredible. This has to have a name. Well, think of a good one. All right, I'll give you the learner with my blessing and permission. You call it. You walk. I'm here's a lot of bees, so I'm looking for bees nests. Yeah, that would. That would suck to uh stumble upon those.

11:09 That's it would, And he does. That was I was doing fire trail one time around the fire man and you know, you're moving fast. And yeah, I slash my. Oh yeah, oh dad into the ground, and I pulled up a whole nest of bald faced hornets on my legs. Yep. And then there's one over here too, goes all over which these could be like elk as well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the thing is if you have elk in this area, then that's a solid food source. Right. Well they got solid food source. Yeah, they got water, they got plants to eat, animal teat, you got everything.

11:55 I could live here. I could live here, yeah, And but he'd just followed, or at least when I was younger, I could. I could uh outsmart the gear and run to the top of a mountain. There used to be a big old pile of gravel here. Oh yeah, that's what I used to put around like a fire pit. And I made a nice fire pit and put six inches of gravel around, and so it wouldn't you know, it was blowing no chunks out and start a fire.

12:42 And I mean we had to stay. Can do inside? What's they. That deep oat. Used to be a nice thing. That thing was bigger than I thought, Ronnie, Huh, he was bigger than I thought. Well he caught the track. Yeah, he found the track. We didn't even measure it, did. We know, But it's about as big as that.

13:25 One, similar size. Yeah. And I try to, like, if I find something, I try to be like probably not, but this like the way it looked. I was just like, man, it looks pretty solid. Way much taller than I thought. It was just a different light. So we walked over to look, and you found that track. That thing was bigger than I thought. Because it's right over there where it jumped down. No, the one I seen is bigger than I thought because of the height of the bushes and and all the things around it. Yeah, so not because. Of the track, because of the So was anything broken off in there?

14:07 I didn't notice I didn't see anything. No, did you? There are toes there the is it good enough to cast? No? No, no, anyway, but it looks cool. It's just kind of bumpy to get in there. Yeah. And it used to be the flat man. Man, I can't believe they destroyed my spot for no reason. Yeahs been compromised and through. Here, and then they blocked that off right. Yeah, they blocked that road though. That was the road right there. Yeah, it was an old logging road. Oh, but where does it go?

14:51 Want to go down there? I've been down there now. Yeah, my my food for you have got one hundred feet from the road back. In, Yeah, we can. We can see one of the apples, right. Yeah, check that out and see if anything picked. That apples was set up yesterday. I'm retired. So, Dwayne, who was the person who originally found it? Was you who originally found this spot and knew there was big food activity right right? Okay, And did you learn that from anyone else?

15:32 Nope? Just from living out here, man. Yeah, you're in the weird monkey kind of sounds. And then get read let into big. For society will be right back. After these messages, Ronnie and encounter and all the big tracks and you see Luke here.

16:16 Oh wow, yeah, there's a right but mm hmm yeah, it kind of looks like someone went right up and over. So see, oh yeah, wow. I took I'm the one that took all these branches off this these trees right here, and they use it for kin win and I wanted to be able to walk down here for you know, sneaking up on a deer or an elk or you know. So I utilized it for firewood and just kept breaking branches off of this direction. So I'm the one that did that, okay. And that's why, you know, everything else doesn't like that because I know there's orange. Yeah, there's the orange. The words of the apple. Should you two apples?

17:05 If you a. Dude? The apples are gone? All right? So the apples are gone. Yeah there was one okay, so it was on the ground. So what. The banana? Oh hold on, I need to I need to document this, okay, Dwayne, Okay, So this is where so Chad set these out right, Yeah, okay, So Chad and Ronnie set these out next day. We have the orange still there. That orange is on the ground, but the orange there. We've got a banana that has been it's been peeled or eaten.

17:47 And they left the oranges in the apple alone. Not only is that they broke the stick. Don't don't try to. They broke the stick off. It was hanging up. Let's let's leave it exactly where it is. Just I'm sure that. Yeah, this is pretty this is solid stuff. Twayne and Ronnie. Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie. Where Yeah tools, dude, this is nuts.

18:38 Well, so much for the people that say they don't like bananas because they didn't need This is the proof apple. This is the proof because everyone gives Whenever I have a show like that, everyone makes fun of it, like they're like, nah, dude, they're not eating bananas. Well why are they not eating apples and oranges? And they're eating the banana right, and. They do eat apples, so that's kind of weird. The orange is an experiment. Okay, So let's look around if we know there's gotta be prints around here or something like that. Yeah, I don't know, but that's weird.

19:19 It's the first time crab. Dude, this is nuts. I can't believe they didn't need. To wait here. I don't know, what do you think right there? It's a possibility. It's a possibility, Ronnie, you're gonna freak out. Maybe maybe not. But I think it's amazing. They didn't want the oring. That orange is on the ground, This apple has broke off the tree, still on the stick, and the banana is keeled. And ye, but they don't feelings.

20:02 Why is it peeled? Yeah, I've never seen one peeled. Yes, Oh my goodness. I've never seen one feel They left the apple. All they did was break the branch on the tree where it was stuck on, and left the apple and peeled the banana. You think that's a sign. I don't know. I don't know. So whoever they don't like bananas are probably wrong. Yeah, how about the apple? The apples? They didn't touch it? Why why not? I don't know. The stick it was on. It was on the tree on a stick and the stick is broken. Now.

20:44 Bears, they wouldn't have left that. R No, the bear wouldn't have left that that a bear. A bear couldn't take the couldn't open a banana. I understand that bright the bear and it would not have left the other fruit. I mean that takes like hands. I know that the bear I have left that. Oh that's true. Good point. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh it was a bear that fruit would have been gone. But something I'm just really excited. I said something I have never seen it, Like, were. These the only fruit that they put out? Okay, so I can't remember if they were doing stuff over there too, they were just looking. Oh yeah, it's gonna freak out.

21:28 Okay. Is that a sign they want bananas? I don't know what it's a sign up? Yeah, yeah, that is interesting. I'm actually glad to see that. I'm taking that as a positive sign. That's incredible evidence. I'm taking that as a positive sign. Yeah, great, God, I hope you get to experience that. That bean or whatever he is. If that was a sign, that also means that they knew that we're going back to check it out. And it also means they're still in here. They're always here. I know, I told you that the whole time. But I'm saying that I've heard them all my sign then it's never been there before. I'm getting here.

22:09 That's weird. There's a can right there. Yeah, somebody's That means they're expecting me to come back and brains and bananas and saying to them some more. That's what I'm getting out of that. Oh I glad you've got something. This could start things up again. Uh huh, yeah, it could be a very positive exactly to me, Yes, exactly, only as romantics wouldn't understand. More bananas. That's true, I know, but that's the strong indication. That's what it's about. I don't want apples and I want oranges and want bananas. I find that strange, and come, I'm giving the positive side of it, and I know you're having a hard time to understand. I don't bud. I that's a sign I think, maybe possibly very much.

22:53 So for me to come back rains and bananas and sing them some lullabys, they miss me. It's obvious, can't you understand? Oh wait, wait, there's orange peels over here? What right there? Okay, there was more? Oh my god, it wasn't. That's that's old. But that's what that might have been from. Yeah, because I brought Okay, uh some great, it does look a lot older and other stuff that may be grapefruit and other stuff in here. Again it's peeled. Oh yeah, get tall totally. Yeah, but that could have been animal, right, rip an animal?

23:34 No, you tell me how any animal could peel that. I don't know. You're the expert on that. Yeah, that's man, that's hard to say. But if they ripped it pard and ate it wouldn't wouldn't it be in pieces like them? I would think if they'd done that, they would have smalls a peeled too, But I don't know. Yeah, do you remember which one the banana was on? Roughly that one or that one. One of these these two right here?

24:15 This one he was here or here? Yeah? Man, almost, Okay, check this out, because if I was going to go for. It, that's a good possible. Check this out. Okay, So Ronnie, if I'm if I'm gonna go for the banana, watch. This right here step. Yeah, it kind of looks like a step. I don't know. Yeah, it feels like a natural like Okay, I'm going for the for the banana right there? I don't know. That's weird, man. Yeah, And this is where I have put I brought so many bananas up here. Performance unbelievable. They never left any part of the banana. It was a no. That's first time I've seen one in peeled. So a regular animal didn't do that. Now, Okay, I have to take it as a sign. It's on, dude, I have to take it as a sign of some kind when assume that anyway this.

25:20 May this is incredible, is getting back to these friends. And I know, I don't know. I think I think positive. I mean, the only thing that fire did was stirred him up for a while. Yeah, they're still they still here, they live here. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a pretty good sign. They ain't going nowhere. This maybe a positive sign for me. I don't know, find out. Yeah, byron uh that uh yeah. And I was up there, i'd put my food and see that tree was up and standing. They pushed it down and fire stuff and everything of that tree right there.

26:07 That was my food tree. Oh okay, I have the car back in there. Mound wasn't there, okay, yeah, bug, okay, Yeah. I put the food up when I was trying to make peace with them, because it was after the two incidents. They tried to run us out, or did run us out the second time in the daytime. But so I wasn't very feeling very secure. But I come up and I put the food up and go out there close to the road and sing said down eventually they started doing it, but they were whooping right back in there. About one hundred and fifty feet or so. They could show you the area. And that's where I found all the tracks on my birthday last year. I didn't know if they were even back for one hundred feet. Always it was covered with trucks, all the individuals for twenty three inches. The tolls were in the ground on the big guy. So it was them, And uh, I was wondering why, because that's unusual for them to do that.

27:11 And I was wondering if I was wondering. I was wondering if they was thinking I might see them because I knew that's where they were whipping from when where we're getting along, And and maybe it was the saying that they wanted to get back the way it was me playing and them whipping back. And you know, I don't know, but I don't know why they would leave so many tracks on the area. I've never heard of that. I never seen the spot. It was a little one. The tracks was that way. Yeah, so Ron hung up some fruit in that tree there. Yeah, and the next time we come back, Yeah, the food coming tracks, we're going that way.

27:51 Well, that's why we set up campause person only about twelve winters long? Would food was gone? Would you ask to me this is about If it is one, probably about like I don't know, what do you think? Cause you say that's like twelve right or six? Six? Okay? So six, so twelve right around. Probably it might be the one, the twelve inch foot, probably the one that made Ronnie start putting food up here in the first place. Yeah, and that might be what kisses the dad off. But the kid coming in the room and taking food from us, I don't know.

28:36 Just the thought right man, eating I'm writing down stuff. I wish I could shut it off like we do. But I mean keep saying I'm negative. I'm not negative at all. I just don't want to put my faith in what and he wants to put his faith in I don't want to hang out with my grandchildren in a few months. Do we know which way is north? Here? Man? Almost all the moss has gone off the tree here. I wonder if I'm gonna try here. Okay, So north is this way? So this is north of the meadow, so and then south of meadow. We had the other potential track, which you had said was the one over I think that was was that a similar size?

29:49 It was approximately is same? And then the area where the weird tree breaks. How far approximately from here is that? That would be to the west fifty yards. About half a football field. Big for society will be right back after these messages, Yeah.

30:34 We could have. We had multiple twist breaks, twist breaks and twist breaks in a group. Man. I'm so glad Cliff is going to be here tomorrow so I can ask him if he's ever seen that before. I'm glad you're here, man. It just made my day. When I realized who you were, I was like, dude, like I know that voice, she said, then I knew who you. That's amazing. Yeah, that's really cool. I wouldn't expect from you till tomorrow, and I don't know with your voice. I was picturing you as a big. A lot of people think that. I always get like you are shorter and yeah, dude, no, it's cool. It's cool.

31:17 Remid over there there was other stuff in that same area as its twist breaks, right, trying to remember. The X on the ground A possible maybe track, but yeah, big, a lot of breaks, a lot of breaks, A big tall break. Yeah, twelve feet Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, there was a twelve foot break and then we were saying maybe like eight foot. Break about eight yeah, approximately. Okay, so now we're seeing holy crap. That's why I stood under the tree so you could get a hip judgment. So somebody can't say, well, how do you know how tall that is? Because the guy that's of nine was standing underneath of it. So you got that and that was two of me tall. That's what you did, right, Yeah, you were calling tracks anywhere in here?

32:19 Now? Oh I got yeah, I. Wonder if we should walk down to the rail. That gets over there al the what. The trails or over the road then or wherever sho walk down there? I gotta get something real quick. That have a fun. Oh this is amazing. Oh yeah, dude, see I brought a lot of bananas up here, and dress as. Much as that coller thing being open. Oh no, no, no, that was a landmark.

33:04 Don't but can you see that? Say the part about what to do with the bears again, with. A black bear, if they attack you, they want to eat you. They're stalking and hunting you, so you have to fight them. And with a grizzly bear, you want to play dead when you get attacked, unless you're asleep in the tent. Then they're in there to eat. Yeah, and that's the only time you would want to try to fight back with it, because you're you're not going to probably win anywhere unless you can get into his eyes. It's weird. It's a random person's phone number that is really weird, and it's on a squatch fest that.

33:52 Is doubly weird. Uh. I'm gonna hold on to that and show Priscilla. I got a feeling there is gonna be some people show up. Oh. I have a feeling that I'm going to use all the audio that I have available to record, which right now is a lot. Uh. Did you hear anything? No, I just thought I got a whipp or something. If it is, it's a ways up because it's a slight Yeah, slight whip got true that it's gotta be riding here somewhere.

34:42 Oh, there it is. Yeah, then I know about where I at. I just don't like I used to. M h. You got that's fun. Look at that? Yeah? Is that is that the light or is that a footprint? Mm hmmm, that's a footprint right here? Is it? Dude, it's isn't It's massive? That's a footprint.

35:22 That's a big toe. Something happened to his other toe, and these toes are spread apart. That's a different track, isn't it. It looks like a track. Hold on, I'm gonna take a picture of it. And more breaks right there. This one's gonna break. Yeah, all right there, yeah definitely. Yah, something's uh passed by here.

36:12 And kick the moss off the rock. But I don't can't tell what. How long a trail is this? Yes? Well the trail is a long trill? Okay? Well like yeah, that's why I know if I need to conserve battery or not. Oh wow, it's gonna open right up.

36:52 Yeah. These trees are massive. Yeah, there's bigger. I'm sure there are. Alright. Can we see. All that brush? They're blocking.

37:34 What? Let's see alright? Here is where you would see it? Yeah, well on the trail that is the brush is going up there. I yeah, okay, why is there a piece of wood on that tree like that? There's some bears some then. Oh that a bear does that? Yeah? They eat the grub worms on the rout and lawn black bear. Yeah, yeah, so far man whatever was on here, somebody took off.

38:23 Oh it's a beautiful trail. Is this a mountain biking trail? Yeah, they didn't see bil Okay, yep. Yeah, they do a lot of that, and yep. It's kind of dangerous too, because all of a sudden they come whizzing and almost run into you. Or even during hunt the season. Take a quick quick. So I'll try to go as far as you want, but I just don't know how far it is over there. Have grown up so much. But if you go up there you can, or below maybe we could. I wonder if I can get my daughter to drive us in the road below. It's a steep hill, but it's a nice flat trail to walk on. Even though it's steep.

39:04 On the side of the trail, we can we don't have to work to walk out to it. It could be better for me being sixty one and broken. Right, well, this is really cool. Oka is going to get a bunch with somebody. Yep, right in time for the festival. Yeah, it was right there, Yeah, right there. I just want to step on it. That's so crazy. And yeah, that's where we. And the only time I ever seen somebody camper was for a couple of days at the end there, and then they were gone with almost all they were still.

39:51 There, really their car was gone, but they left. Is it like they left in a hurry. They find a lot of that in the land between the lakes too, Like that Martin Groves guy and those guys you go, You're like, screw it, nothing is worth me. I've heard that happening to guys in Iowa too. They just like rip down, the rip down, the tent, put in the car, left everything else. I am I'm not going to chase one of them to the woodsturn and get a picture of it. I'll try to get what I get when it comes out. But then I'm if it's aggressive, I'm gone.

40:31 Yeah. If I can, well, that's that's a tricky thing. I don't know, Like you probably can't run with that, right. That's one of the things that bothered No, Cham, I can't run. I'm stuck. I can hobble a little faster, but I can't run. And not just cool how this all up fits together? No, after you get you see the big picture makes sense. Yeah. We went way back in the woods one time where we found a cave that my friend wanted to look at.

41:14 And we had a big overhang and a little waterfall, and we built up rocks and built us a little you know thing in there, and so we could take a shower in the little waterfall and it was a cool spot way the hell back in the woods. Wonder a bit still in there. It was being dan by something. In I don't think it's out of the question, dude. Caves like that always, you know, freaking me out when you could talk about going on them, and they especially in a Bigfoot territory. I don't want to go in caves, dude. Nope.

42:04 M Yeah, I don't know how to feel about this place up here, but I'm glad I got to share the experience with a few people. Seeing the I mean, seeing the evidence that we've seen today is life changing for me. Like that whole banana thing. That changes a lot of things for me. Yeah, it's. It's nuts, dude. And it's time after time after time, whether it's woops, yells, screams, wars, tracks, M it's time after time after time. M. Yeah. I'm wondering where we might have pushed him too, But it couldn't have been far because that banana was still there, Yes for you.

43:08 So the thing about the banana I'm going to bring this up to Chad because it's his call because he put it there. But that banana pill probably had some kind of DNA on it if you think about it, where they either had to open it with their hands or like put it in their mouth to open it. And there's a guy doing a You can send in any bigfoot evidence to this guy in North Carolina state. No, it doesn't cost anything, that's the thing. So any Joe Schmoe can send in any evidence they have and they'll test it DNA. And he's he's a good dude. He's not like a you know, he's not like a whatever dude. But he's Yeah, it's free and he's a good dude.

43:51 So bonds again. Hey, they'll be trying to romanticize me. I went for you, trust me, or you'll have to say addressed. So don't worry about. We. Uh So we went up that trail over there where you can see we did see what this looks pretty close to another size track over there when you go up the hill into the woods and there's like toes pretty clear. Yeah, dude, but if it is a track because he pointed that one out. The tonics to his big toe is gone. It's weird.

44:32 So the toes are there, Yeah, the big toes there, and the little toes on the sod are there, but the tonics of the big toe isn't there. So all the toes were there except the one. Next to the So he's been injured or it didn't show. It's been injured. So this has maybe another individually. Yeah, I've been telling you, Ronnie, my eight is more than your five. I never did. I just had to go by what I was. I know, I know, but I'm just I'm just Now we're at seven different tracks. Oh yeah, wow, because for this area, the. One with the big toes, that was six. Now we're at seven. Yeah, there'd be two more different tracks. We're not familiar. And what did I say to you at least eight? Right?

45:14 Yeah, yep. I'm pretty good at sound man and in the world. That's why I had confidence here. I just wasn't hearing what you were hearing. Not that I doubted you, I knew that, but you doubt me more than I doubt you. No, I just because I like you. No, you don't hack on people. I don't like I don't talk. I don't. I don't think you're really gotting in you to really try to get close to these things and be able to Hey, I've been honestly about love one big, loving family. Big for society will be right back after these messages.

46:00 I've been honest about that the whole time. I don't want to be lovey lovey with these things. I haven't changed, or like we're just never gonna connect. So oh you're you're connecting, but you're good for each other because you have different viewpoints. So there's tracks, there's food evidence, there's visual evidence, there's there's sound evidence, there's breakage evidence, breakage evidence, there's like everything here. I think the only thing there's no sound recorded yet here? Right what we need people see? But Chad's got my audio recorder up there, and I would I would guess he I mean, how could he not capture something last night?

46:46 I'm going to look into buying a pair of balla good. I don't know how much is. This was unusual to have this much activity with him all at once. Yeah, and there may not be anything again for the next five ten times you come in. But there might be well, yeah, I mean they're already has he said they were. He said, yesterday they were ran out of here, and today that banana's been piled in eight Yeah, obviously they're still in the half. Halfway through the day they would run out. Yeah, yeah, he said, Well after that incident that, you know, they probably weren't here no more. They went off. They just went up into brush and circled around. He didn't go anywhere the banana.

47:26 They're still around here between here and that other spot. But after that was over it, they left. I came and I sit right here for at least two hours, singing and doing my thing. And that's when I was right behind me, after I've been here quite a while. Fact, the twig snapped and then immediately over and there it was loud in it, like a branch had really been snapped. And we're probably getting I think something might have been here while I was here, And then I was sitting here after it, and I'm getting I'm thinking, why in the hell am I here? Nothing's happening. That's when I started talking that to him, I miss you. I wish you'd get back to it, show me something, start singing or something. And then that bird started going out and I almost left because of it with I don't know what if that was there mimicking and they were singing.

48:19 So I stayed and that bird come up twice within two hours, singing for a while. But there's the only sound from an animal in here, so I don't know. But it was kind of encouraging. And then I see that, but anything that's another signal that's encouraging. I didn't lie to Ronnie when I brought him. I didn't lie to anybody. No, that's one thing about Dwayne. He won't lie. See how you feel, and I don't lie. I have no reason. I don't know. There's less stuff I would lie on. That's too important to me. It's too serious, and I take it seriously. I'm not gonna embellish or exaggerating. If there's something i'm not sure, having it sounds, I'll make it clear I'm not quite sure or whatever. But I don't put something down as that's the way it is when i'm not sure.

49:06 You know, you know what I mean. You know you want to be as truthful as possible as otherwise it's not credible. Nothing you're doing. Why are you researching this? Goal? Are your life if you're not gonna be credible, you know, it's stupid. Can you share how we had talked over there and you were like, talk to me later about this area? Oh yeah, yeah, just so did you tell you? Yeah? It was strange and well, there was a couple of things, three instants that happened. I don't know. I don't know if I remember the other one right off the bat. The first one was, well, it was after we had first our first experience and come the first time, I come up with dune and we stayed out in the bottoms all night, and then we had that to whistle on both sides of the tent, and the twig stamp and the whistles, then the little rocksby and hitting the trees ahead of us that we're hiking out of there.

50:04 So the next day I came back by myself. He didn't even know it, but I don't think when I came back, and I came back with a big jar of peanut butter, brand new. It hadn't been over me and uh, I hiked down in there and the bottoms and I set it up in the swampy area in a tree not very high, but uh, I set it up where we had heard the whistley. My daughter, huh where we had the activity? Yeah, and uh yeah, oh boy, she must have missed her daddy, of course her du No, you probably coming coming to kick bigfoot. That gave the problem.

50:52 Someone's getting someone's getting it. I've seen her get pissed off the bigfoot. The ladder they got, the more pissed. Off he was getting that around. Did you have to say word? I know? She Oh, she's gets so great, she thinks the end of the time, she's she's got her ass covered. What kind of nerve wrecking coming to the spot thinking what if you're not even there? No? What? Hello? Nothing was way bigger than I thought it was. We walked out there, he thought of track. Yeah, but we walked out there and those bullhes are tall. I don't know how big it was, but it was way bigger than I thought. And the track is about eighteen but that's what it looked like, maybe an older track, But after going up there, those bushes are way, way, way, way tall.

51:43 So well, I mean, I don't I'm like, you're the one that's seen it. I didn't say yeah, but it was a different light when we got up here. Earlier. I was like, what, wait a minute, where it jumped. It looks like there's a track over there, and then over here. You got to see this over here. It's really cool. This will blow your mind. I saw this and I was like, it's crazy. All right, So Chad put fruit over here?

52:26 Yeah, that's right. Where is it? It's yep? Okay, So see see what you noticed in this area about the fruit. Sun is gone. Okay, so you've got you've got apple, orange still there? Orange there? Where's the banana? The banana's gone? The carter a little bit. Oh no, I was eaten, so. We're not gonna touch it. But the banana was eaten and it was peeled, which that that's nuts, right, yeah, because that's either like something had to have in his mouth and just be like or had to like use its fingers to peel.

53:10 It like that. That blows my mind. And that's pretty cool. That's the craziest evidence I've ever seen. We also over there, fifty yards we saw a group of trees that were twisted off, thank you, twisted off close to the ground, like a group of four or five, which is crazy. I've never seen that either. Yeah, they do that, so this whole place is just a different thing in the daytime. It's a different thing at nighttime too. Yeah, we saw a potential other track over by the trail. We went up there too. But now one, if it's a track, is missing the tone next to its big toll, like it got injured because the big till is there and then the side toes, but the other toill is going. So that's a different track of a different one. So that's what we're up to number seven now, to challenge different tracks. That's true.

54:08 Crazy. I almost already going up to the other spot. It wasn't sure if you guys want to check. That, and we went, Yeah, we were there, turn around and just checked the spot first, showed. Those tracks is the one you found? This big toe? They showed him. That was cool. Those sticks, Yeah found it, so it was like easier. That was very evident. Nothing touched the fruit at all. But yeah, they left those on the ground except for the bananas that they peeled, and they never left the banana pel before they took it all. Yeah, that's the first time the banana pills.

54:49 Oh yeah, heads up, I've been field recording your dad, and so it is on right now. That's alright. Cool. Well, so even though there's releases, I always try to tell people every time, So there's I like you, yeah, yeah. Thank you would do nothing to hurt you at all. And I know a lot of people say that, but I truly mean it. I wouldn't try to get nothing, that pull nothing on you. We're just sharing.

55:29 Actually, problem there is I'm a third of me is more romantic than you are. You wouldn't identify with that. These guys. These guys have been going at each other all day. It's pretty wild, the best of pals. He just doesn't get it, and I don't understand why. So you you are, you're bartender at that bar at the pizza place. Oh the pizza place where all okay, which is we were talking about that earlier, where like a lot of the loggers and old timers are there. Now we've got lots of like old saw blades and stuff. And there's this really old clock which they they finally fix it to where it works, but they didn't use the old mechanism in it. They put like a newer one in it. And it's so it's this big clock and it's got like these.

56:21 Couple of knights my uncle made hanging on the wall his uncle made. There's there's Old Saws, one of the guys that he still comes in occasionally, but they move so don't see him very often. Boots are up there too, like. They're really obviously anywhere. I haven't seen him recently. Well, if you do, I want, I want to talk to him. I wanted to see if people talk to well, I haven't talked to him in a while. But that's the guy was talking about. I didn't mention his name on your thing, but you know, I don't want nobody bothering his old dad or anything trying to unless they say it's okay. So yeah, so you said Brocken and which.

57:05 Instead. Yeah, they got lots of stuff. Oh the footprint. I sorry, yeah, sorry, ron Ago. We were talking. We're talking about it early footprint stories and stuff from the area. They got pins on the spots the areas and flags and notes and professional research. You know, they're the guys you want to know, probably for the area, said their documentary. I'm just kidding. I can I don't go around bragging about how much an experts dad. He was like the mechanic in town that did all that that's what his dad did.

57:52 Anyway, Okay, I was wondering before we lose it. It doesn't matter to me, but oh yeah, I was talking about the the woo stuff. I don't like to get into that too much. People might think I'm weird or something. But there was some strange things that happened. I think I got it written down, but I got it written there. It's not anything conclusive the way I worded it. Whatever. I think it's all right. But anyway, the first one was, uh, we had had the stay. The first time we stay all night was in the bottoms, and we'd had action in the swampy area. We had a middle of the night sometimes twig snap shrill shrill whistle, I guess you would call it. And a moment later on the other side, same thing twig snap was so. And then the rocks, little rocks lightly hitting the trees ahead of us as we were hiking up. I come back the next day, I go down in there and I got a big build of peanut butter MHM, and I set it in the area when we first heard the twig snap, yeah, and I put in a tree so and the cross thing put a big jar peanut butter had never gonna set it there. I leave it there, and I come back the next day, go down there, and I there's

59:28 a there's a trail. Actually, I think it's a bike trail. What what whistle? Oh? Really we talked whistling and it starts whistling. That's an interesting. But So. I go down in there and where i'd put the pan butter. I go. I'm on the trail, the main trail, bike trail, and the little trail goes off back in there. It's twenty feet back and where I said. So I go in the trail and I go back to check on the peanut. Well, the peanut butter is gone, the whole jar. We always do this when she comes up here.

1:00:17 Don't pay any attention to them, and it's moving. It's more important me or Bigfoot. Well, I'm to. Listen to you. It sounds like your girlfriend Bigfoot is. Make her jealous. She thinks I got company, somebody may like me, and she made me. I'm telling you, I know how this romantic goes more than you do. You make them jealous just getting shirt, but you're not getting the other birds. Sound with it right, It's different if if they know that we have changed, and we're directing our attention to them. It's better to just keep doing nothing and. Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

1:01:13 Yeah, it is. It's like you're watching TV. It's really nice, so we can talk about it. You're not like, get super focused. And just keep doing what you're doing. Relax, be genuine, be yourself. I am doing what I know, but I'm getting interrupted with my story because there's something more important than me. Go ahead, really bothered my ego? Go ahead, and I got the camera over there. So anyway, I go back after I put the peanut butter. The next day, I go right to the trail and I go back in and the peanut butter jar is gone. I don't know anything about bears, just swear he would have come in handy. There's nothing in there. If a bear would have got Duane. If bear would have got that peanut butter, would there been evidence or would he have just grabbed it and walked off with it?

1:02:03 Bear grab it, he would have chewed it up. So there would have been evidence there. Right, even even if a bear had gotten it somehow and not tore it up there and picked it up and carried it away. You would still see some something like as if it was on the ground and it was trying to. Do something too And I think it was too big. It was a big jarp in it, but for a raccoon to take or anything. So anyway, it's gone and there's nothing there and no sign that it was over there. Now, now get this, I don't know then it means anything. And I explained that, but I just happened this way. I go out on the trail, out to the main bike trail, and right there, stepping where I had stepped coming in, is a tablespoon, nice and shiny like it's brand new, sitting right there right and I cannot imagine stepping over it coming in, but it was right there clear. Now, what was guy?

1:03:05 You were talking about your peanut butter? Oh? Yeah? The homeless guy turned and brought a spoon back and set it down to give me a sitting. Only he wanted more peanut butter there. He's going, I'm just playing, But I what's the chances? That's weird? Now? And it's a tablespoon that would be for peanut butter there and the peanut butter is gone, which I can't explain. Did you leave a spoon with the No, I didn't bring any spoon. It's the weird thing. So I'm thinking if if it was like that, if something did put it there for a sign. It's something maybe got out of a campground or something, you know, But I don't know. Anyway, it's something that I don't know if it means anything or not, but I but I'm putting it in.

1:03:50 Steal a spoon. Yeah, but what a coincidence. I doubt. If a spoon, it would probably keep its. Nester would be interesting. You put it right on the trail where I right where it steps off where the trail connects with the put it right there, and the peanut butters set up there the day before. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, So anyway, I don't know. The second one was Dwayne's the witness to this. We're coming out of them and uh the way I had been before. He's leading out and there's a big tree down and there's room to crawl under, but you know, it's just a big tree that's down across the path a way to get out, and uh, so we were trying to think of we're looking for the ends where we go. He can't really get down too little and doing that and trying to around or something, so we're kind of we take a break.

1:04:52 We're standing before this big tree and I'm looking off and there's like a pathway a clearing going through where you can see and I don't know what the area looks like. I haven't seen the trees in there and stuff before. And I can see up there it's a long ways away, like a block away or something, standing right in the middle on the top of this pathway like an alleyway, just all the way through, no trees, nothing, And this looks like a bigfoot standing there. I showed him and said, come here and look at this, and he said, yeah, it looks like a big foot. Correct me if I'm saying it wrong, I will.

1:05:39 You can count on that. Yeah, I'll have a counter or two. But I uh, I looked like the shoulders, the head, the arms are down every I mean, it looked like a big foot, but just standing stoic. Yeah, i'd been able to tell you more of it was still there when we got up there. But that thing yet, I know, but don't get ahead of me. But it's standing there. I forget Was it the trees that were moving that were along the side, or was it that was moving a little? It was the trees, wasn't it? It was probably all the above. No, there was one of the other wasn't moving at all. I think it was the bigfoot. Wasn't really movie or maybe it was the big foot that I don't know. I don't really that's why you should write down.

1:06:22 But uh, you guys should be taking a journal of everything. I know. The timing was so timing of things important. Really, I didn't realize how important timing is it write and timing down on certain. Things, everything like weather, the moon, temperature, all that stuff. Everything's important. I didn't. I didn't really realize. I'm not really what do you think I am? But I so I'm seeing that, and I call him over. He looks, and you've seen it right now? Get this. Well, I thought I seen what you were talking about. And you said it looks like a big foot. I said, definitely standing there.

1:07:05 Now, I don't know if it's a couple of weeks later or whatever it was. We're back when we go down to the bonnet, we're coming out of there on the same way and we're blocked by that tree, so I'm looking for that. He didn't bring his binoculars that day. I wish you would have, But I'm looking. There is no alley way, nothing, It's all trees, solid across. There's not no matter how you look at. Why they were angled. I know exactly the positions was in to see this. There was no alleyway, there was no way to look through anything. And I asked him to come over and take a look. What do you think of this? Nothing there, we're not There is nothing to look at but solid trees all the way to explain that one, And he witnessed that.

1:07:54 I don't know what to make of it. Yeah, that's cool you both witnessed it. Yeah, otherwise I probably wouldn't say anything. And on one of the places where you got to duck down to go under it or over it, there was you could see where because there was moss around it, it was a handprint. Remember you left that out. You can't tell them about the handprint where it was on that branch by that log there was. Yeah, there was a handprint where it had used that to either go up or under. That's why a journal comes in really handy, because like no. I I write down everything about my stuff in Iowa, and I would have forgotten half the details because it's from a few years ago. Yeah, like I've been writing down stuff from this weekend.

1:08:44 Yeah, I'm just I'm just dysfunctional, always been that way. There's so many things in my life that have seen the sun usual on there one time events and I've never recorded, never had a camera, and I just just any everything I've got is in my head. I've never taken notes, nothing, And it's really kind of dumb. But well, and you know why, because if something happens to you, then the legacy of this area just dies, except for it's with Dwayne and it's with some other people now. But like if you write it all down, then that's something you could pull.

1:09:24 I've got this pretty much. I think I've got this completed in the book thing. Okay, all of this, gotcha. I got a lot of stuff. It's just about complete. I don't know, but I think by the time right now, I've probably got three hundred pages. I can't wait for you to get that out. Yeah, but it sounds crazier than this stuff. Anyway, I'm going to do it. I don't care what anybody thinks, but it's all down and this will be down and all of it. So when he was telling his good sorry, I have stories, but. You can't interrupt me anytime because I don't shut up, which I appreciate.

1:10:06 You are the most one of the most amazing interviews I've ever had. I am so flattered that is going to go right to my head. I know, well, I'm gonna have an eagle like you won't imagine. But I so while he was talking, we were hearing the same sound that you've experienced before in this area, which we attribute the whistle, we attribute to the bigfoot in this area, right yeah, which you also said really tends to happen when you show up on this on this scene. I don't think I've ever been here and not heard the listen.

1:10:47 I think they think she's prettier than I am. I think you're right jealous. She was. We were over there, right over there, and the birds were chirping over there, and she went from here over chill about thirty or sixty feet before because she was listening to them, and they started. If I remember, she went do in a certain troup pattern sounded to me like they were repeating that pattern. And in fact, she was here yesterday when all that happened in the roar too. That's the first time she got to hear the roar. But she was here. I could have been why they were there, and that could have been why they got worked up like they did the last time.

1:11:28 Yes, she was here, that's possibility, I guess. But they tend to like her. Oh, I mean, we had experiences without her, bit man, the whistle action and always happens. More. People present are Ronnie Rosamond Twain and Denise Twain's daughter. So the group the night we had the deal before all of this we're talking about. Now we're back and then with a tent when I did the sound that I guess they didn't like. They were coming from long ways that way, hollering a screaming, coming this way. So a month later whatever I'm talking, man, we come up in the daytime and she came out. They came up in her jeep and over there we're standing over there and after this chirping here, squirrels started coming off back in here. Then Dwayne says or something I handed this way.

1:12:23 We all five of them with the owl. The raven coyote sound with it. What sounded like Franny chimpanzees or something on a frenzy. They're hollering, a screaming. There was the same sounds this the night, only in the daytime, and when they came and they were coming this way, and then they left and night I stayed here, That's when I stayed here and things happened back here. But yeah, so were they connected the chirping besides these five connected with him? Somehow? It looks like maybe it's. The same whistle chirps that we heard in the bottom too. It's the same whistle. It's not an extravagant whistle. It's just a.

1:13:10 It went. However, you whistled. That's crazy. Wow, was interested loud yet. The sound that you made that you're just pay's gonna do it. I'm not saying to do it, but I'm just saying for me to remember. Was it the Sierra sounds? Oh? No, no, because I don't think I don't know if you actually ever said. There's one on Yes, I have. Uh, there's some sounds, the more aggressive sounds on that tape that they had. Uh, yeah, it's like one of them. We heard the sound. Did you do it, but you did it with yourself right. You didn't play recording Because Dwayne and his dad got in the tent. I was still outside. It was getting dusk, and I asked him what kind of sound he s heard over the years here, and he's come off with some.

1:14:03 So I wanted to share that sound which I heard right next to my tent in northern California. And. I come off with it and was twenty minutes. The whole group of screaming and hollering their head are away after I've made that sound. But the sound is, yes, like one of the sounds on the Sheer Sounds, but it was I'm gonna do it lightly, but I'm scared to do it like louder la. Oh yeah, like you started tempting scaring me yesterday before because you were leaving and leaving me here. This' here the sound. Know you were here. It sounds they were making, yestay, tell me your friends with us, I know. So you're gonna leave those sounds that are sound kind of agitated or something before you leave and while I'm gonna be alone. Thanks a lot.

1:14:54 Sound you want to make those sounds in the world. I don't want to make those sounds. You guys were making the sounds. Oh my good, a good two of them. Anyway, it's it's uh yeah, like that and only extremely loud. That's solid. And it just did that loud. I did it loud. Within fifteen minutes, we were surrounded. Really, so I think the Bigfoot that was by my temp many years before in the northern California may have been cussing me out or something like he wasn't happy with me there, and I think me repeating here. Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1:15:53 It was just sound like I'm telling them like I don't want you here or something, you know what I mean. It's like I challenged them, just like he said the next morning they did that, I said, because oh yeah, he said me the next morning, I'm trying to rash the lines because we're afraid to get out of our tent. We weren't going to get out here even after they left that night. Oh hell, yes, you'd really. We're here for that. That would be wouldn't be up here now probably not no, no, no, she'd I. Already won't bring my kids up here at all because of that story. Not even during the daytime, I'm fine. Daytime cool starts getting dark out, I just want to leave. I don't want to be here.

1:16:33 That's why I sat in the car last night. Dad. It's like, oh, it's like we're wait longer. I'm like, okay, that's they can sneak up on as it's too dark. I said they can't. I said they got some night vision. I said we can see him coming. After he said that, I felt a little bit better, but I still stayed to goes. Hey, you don't have to say things you don't have to say sometimes, like. What like don't count on it, don't count out with these guys. Shut Oh okay, I got it. I'm a little slow sometimes I get it after the fact. I didn't get it either. The next morning was there and I thank god because we hadn't had that kind of experience so extreme. I mean, they've been benign, you know, and now they're freaking acting like they want to tear us apart. So I asked. I said to Duayane, I said, before we left, we was getting out of there next morning.

1:17:37 But what was it about? Was it because of the bananas? They were gone? When the track he found there and we put bananas up. The next morning, the track was coming away from the tree and the bananas were gone, but it was a smaller track, and that's why we camped here because of that. Then that happened that night. I'm thinking the next morning, I'm trying to rationalize this, and I said, I wonder if that because he was younger, if he turned and got ur bananas, took it home the old man, and maybe the old man was reprimanded and he got ticked off that he took the fruit from the humans. Right, That's when I'm trying thinking. And he says, no, no, he says it was about you.

1:18:23 And I said what He says, they came here for you, And I felt that the cold go down my back. I said me. He says, yeah, that sound you made. He says it wasn't twenty minutes they were headed this way. He says, you challenged them. And I thought that makes sense, more sense than anything right on. Thing that I can make. That's the only way I can rationalize it. And then I, well, you don't. Really hear a lot of people having bigfoot stories like that, where there's that many and they're surrounded and they didn't really not a lot. Yeah, you're right.

1:19:03 No, I don't hear a lot. Because the person that sees that bigfoot over there doesn't see the one that's there. Ye're in there, I know, and there. You only find out that they're there if you try to take them out and then the other ones show up and then you're missing for on one is usually how it goes. Yeah, they got a triangular thing. You're focused on one, you don't realize the other two behind you. That's the way, kind of like those lizards in Jurassic the raptors. It's totally like the raptors. Yeah, but these things have a heart that's different and they can be passionate. Oh my gosh, you ain't gonna get it. Every I did about three months courting with him right over there, courting.

1:19:51 Yeah, okay, Well I know you spend a long time trying to get back in good graces after. Yeah, And I didn't know that was going to happen, right. That took a lot of nerve. But I the only thing that give me the encouragement of that was just they be positive and have something that might change the dynamics and what's the simplest way and something might be effective and that's the guitar music saying, and I know that's what did it. I was still bringing the field up, but. That's when we would hear sounds when we were just sitting around the campfire having a good time. That's all we were doing. And then.

1:20:37 The hell is that sound like like yesterday? I you know, I can't say it's conclusive. But after they left, I was here for a good two hours, uh, singing and playing. Nothing happened, just dead silent. Yeah, And after an hour or so, th gosh, I'm wasting my time kind of, so I started talking to him. It's like, I miss you. I want to be like I want it to be like it was before. You know, I'm just talking and stuff. I really like you. I love you. I miss you. I like somebody heard me. They know I was insane, but I I'm doing this. I'm really trying to feel it and get it back. I'm passionate about it. I do. I want the relationship back the way it was. It was great, and we got all this turmoil. They're screaming, they're howling over there and back and forth and all that, you know, agitated, and nothing happened.

1:21:35 I said, well, I said, well, whoop, whoop, I started doing that nothing. I said, well, sing to me, just do something, sing And that's when one lone bird and the way it was it was like singing almost kind of, but it was a bird, and I thought, that's it. There's wildlife in here. That means they're not here, right. I was gonna leave, and I thought, oh, it's only one song. What if it's one of them mimical bird that's singing and letting me know that way. I do that all the time now, and now I'm always trying to figure out whether so I stayed animal I'm hearing if I'm really hearing that.

1:22:19 I stayed over another hour because of that. And I was singing and then I stop and singing this stuff, and I tried to talk, and uh, the bird went on for a little while I was singing. Then they stopped, and then it was about a half hour later. I was doing this because whoop, whoop, you know, sing singing to me, and then the birds started up again. So I did it twice, but it was the only sound of an animal in here. But I was here over two hours. I stayed here longer because of that bird. But I don't know for sure, but I'm I like to think positive that. Yeah, they were letting me know we're still okay. They're agitated, but we're okay. As long as me and them are okay, I don't care. Well, I do care. I don't want them to have a bad time, but as long as we're okay, I feel better, you know. And then I see that banana peel out there the way it is. I've never seen that.

1:23:16 Did you hear that a raven? Right? Yeah? Yeah, maybe it's a raven maybe. And it sounded pretty normal. Yeah, it just sounded a little normal. And it's up high in the air. Yeah, it sounded a little yeah, like it could go, like it could go either way, but high in the air. It doesn't mean much to me anymore after that thing I seen about him climbing to the top of them redwood trees in California. So. They could they could very well be one of them, exactly. But anyway, the banana peel, the waste