Dec. 15, 2025

Prospector Triggers Bigfoot Encounter Near Cave Junction, Oregon And Barely Escapes Alive

Prospector Triggers Bigfoot Encounter Near Cave Junction, Oregon And Barely Escapes Alive
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Season 1

In this intense Bigfoot encounter episode, a veteran gold prospector shares chilling firsthand experiences from deep in the wilderness of Southern Oregon and Northern California. While prospecting for gold near Cave Junction, Oregon, Josephine Creek, and remote parts of Sierra County, Plumas County, and the American River, what began as a mining adventure quickly turned into a terrifying encounter with something powerful, intelligent, and unseen.


The guest recounts being stalked, followed, screamed at, and physically shaken by heavy bipedal footsteps, describing classic Bigfoot behaviors including wood knocks, triangulation, warning vocalizations, and intimidation displays. From night encounters near campfires to daylight experiences in extremely remote terrain, this episode explores how Bigfoot activity often overlaps with isolated gold-rich areas rarely visited by humans.


You’ll hear detailed accounts involving Oregon Caves, Happy Camp, Feather River Canyon, and areas near Lake Tahoe, along with discussions on Bigfoot intelligence, territorial behavior, survival instincts, and why prospectors frequently report Sasquatch encounters. This episode also dives into the emotional and psychological impact of these experiences and why many witnesses stay silent for years.


If you’re interested in Bigfoot sightings, Sasquatch encounters, wilderness horror stories, cryptids of the Pacific Northwest, or survival experiences in remote forests, this episode delivers a raw, firsthand account that challenges skepticism and raises serious questions about what lives deep in North America’s wildest places. 

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You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with

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us hither Jeremiah here editing the episode. Just I know

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there's some parents that watch this show with their kids.

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That's awesome.

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However, if you are not wanting to have to have

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a discussion with your kids yet about high school level

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subjects to do with the human body, this might not

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be the episode for you. Everyone else, enjoy this is

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a good one, all right, Bigfoot Society. The privilege of

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talking to Eric Heiser today. Eric is an individual I

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got connected to. He's a prospector and explorer, and he's

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got some really interesting things to share. Experiences he's had

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out there in California in Oregon, and also some stories

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to share as well.

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But welcome to the show.

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Eric.

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How are you doing.

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I'm doing great, Jeremiah. I appreciate you having me on

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the program.

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Absolutely.

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I love You've got the picture of the Patterson Gimblin

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film right behind you on the wall. That's great, love it.

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So listeners, you'll have to go over YouTube so you

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can see that we are trying to do full video

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interviews when we can, so I appreciate Eric doing the

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extra effort to make that happen today. Eric, I would

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love to hear all about what you've experienced. You were

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saying you've been a prospector for fifteen plus years.

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Is that right?

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That's correct.

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That's awesome, man. When did you get started?

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Sometime after college. I was lost and I'd been drinking

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a lot, and then I discovered myself in the woods.

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I saw Tom Massey's show, the former president of the

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GPA Gold Prospectors Association of America, inspired me to get

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out there and look for gold. I started going out

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there looking for gold and I just found myself and

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I really discovered this part of me that I didn't

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I always knew I had it. Because I always had

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a passion and I had family in the gold Russian Australia,

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so I feel that was actually genetic. I'm like the

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reincarnation of a grandfather who was obsessed with the old,

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the outdoors, opals and really hardcore adventures.

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That's that is so cool.

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And I think I've talked to maybe one or two

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that are connected to that community over the years, and

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you know, I want to say, prospectors and bigfoot go

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hand in hand. It's just like the people both really

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get into it. And so was there a time over

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those years when you found yourself as a prospector intersecting

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with the bigfoot world or what got you connected with that?

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It just happened because the best gold is in the

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most remote places. So the better the gold, the more

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likely it is you are to encounter a big foot.

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And so this is why nearly one hundred percent of

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the prospectors I know who have spent a good ten

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years in these remote types of locations have absolutely had

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bigfoot encounters. And so you put the time in these locations,

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and you're really primed for an encounter too, because you're

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in the location, you've got your head down, you're very approachable.

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You're staying still, you're usually painting or digging, you're staying

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in the same spot. So this makes you very approachable

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for a big foot and this is exactly why prospectors

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have the encounters they do. They're in the right location,

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they're doing the right thing, and they're very approachable. They're

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not intimidating. They don't have a gun, they're just leaning over,

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they don't have a rifle looking around or anything. They're

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got their head down in the dirt.

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Absolutely.

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So when you first heard of bigfoot, were you on

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the side where you're like, oh, it sounds like a

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story that maybe the prospector started telling me to get

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me scared out of certain areas, or were you on

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the side of belief pretty much from the get go.

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I remember when the show Finding Bigfoot came out, and

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I think I had already been prospecting at the time,

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and a friend of mine I was joking about this, Oh,

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it's so fake, and my buddies, no, Bigfoot's real. Look

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into it, and I was like, I'll prove you wrong.

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So I get on the internet and I start digging,

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and the more I dug, the more I dug. I

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didn't even leave my room for a couple of days.

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I realized after I came out of my room after

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a couple of days of thorough digging, I realized, you're right,

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Bigfoot is actually real. There's more evidence to support that

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this is real than it stopped. But I still have

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that in my head. Yay, maybe it's nut. Maybe it is.

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So that was that I had enough evidence in my head,

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but it would be several years till I started having

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my own encounters.

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Oh my goodness, it is.

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It's really cool that your story puts you in the

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spot where you were able to do that research before

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you got thrown into it. But can you take us

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to a point where things really did ramp up to

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you and you started experiencing what Bigfoot was in real life?

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Yeah, things started to actually slowly escalate. For me. It's

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really interesting because I've had several encounters, and some of

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them I don't really count as encounters because they're gray area.

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But now looking back in hindsight, I can see that

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they probably were, and it was just this interesting escalation,

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and each situation was different. It all started when I

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first started prospecting, and I would be going down to

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this place out of Colfax, California. And actually at that

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same time when I was out there, there were encounters

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in Colefax. We're talking daytime sightings, dusk sightings of multiple individuals.

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So the area had activity around it, and I was

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aware of that because I was already aware of the BFRO,

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having done some research and so so at that point

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I was looking. I'm like, okay, that's just interesting to know,

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and it was just in the back of mind. I

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didn't really think much of it. I would go the

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same place every week, several times a week, I'd go

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down this trail that goes down river, and it was

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pretty remote. I never ran into people, and so every

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time I went, it was like, Okay, this is cool,

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this is fun. And there's trees alongside the path going downriver,

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and this was I go down this one day and

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all the trees are broken across the trail and they're

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all healthy trees, but they're about this thick, three four

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inches in diameter, and they're broken congruently at the same

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place across the trail. It was like a sign. And

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I'm the moment I saw it, I was thinking, this

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is strange. How could this happen, and there's obviously obstructions

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on the path, they're congruent, they're the same height, they're

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all healthy trees. There's no dead trees here. So that

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was the first thing that had me thinking, like, that's odd.

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I didn't attribute it to bigfoot, though, and so I

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went on my day. Nothing happened. I came back probably

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some weeks or so later, and I brought a girlfriend

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at the time, and we were going upriver, and this

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place is even more remote, and it just gets more

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and more remote the deeper you go in there, and

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we almost I almost never see people want to go

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prospecting because these This is exemplary of how remote these

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places are that I go to. And so we're going

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up river, and I still don't count this as an encounter,

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but I do believe it probably was bigfoot. Now thinking

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back on it and hearing what other people say, it's

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really the same thing. This happened to so many others.

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I was walking with my girlfriend. It's the middle of

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the day, and there's really steep hillsides on the sides

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of us, and there's a thick forest on this steep hillside.

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We're talking. It's almost like straight up steep and we

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have to go right past it along the edge of

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the river, like right along the edge of the forest,

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scooting along the bedrock in the forest to get to

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the next area ahead. And as we're approaching the thicket,

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I hear whack, whack, whack, and it just happened so quickly,

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but it was so loud, and it was probably just

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thirty to fifty feet away from us on the steep

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hill side, and it was all fresh, healthy trees, no wind,

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no dead anything, lush, beautiful, and it was just completely

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unexplainable sound because it was like hitting a tree really

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hard with a bat, but really quickly whack and then whack,

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just cracking a huge tree instantly, and it wasn't like

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it was just crack, like someone just cracked a big tree.

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And at the time I was just like my girlfriend

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and I she had no idea what bigfoot was. She's

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from another country, and we just stopped and we were terrified. Immediately,

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we got chills, and because the whole forest was quiet

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except for that, and we just look at where the

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sound came from, super steep, super thick patch of forest

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right there right next to us, and we're just so

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scared because there's no way we could explain that type

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of sound. There's no way a human could make this sound.

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You need industrial equipment and it'd have to be so

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well thought out and it'd take a lot of money.

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So that was very strange. But I still don't count

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that as an encounter. It wasn't until I got super

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undeniable situations. That's when I'm like, okay, bigfoot has been

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around me. Same girlfriend. Some years later, I think I

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had other situations where I was with prospectors and we

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looked up on hillsides and I saw some it looked

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like a tree shaking, and I'm like, that's really weird.

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But it was so like obscure, I didn't really think

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too much of it. I was like, gosh, that's big

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footy and my friends, yeah, that's weird. I remember it's

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looking it looked like a figure behind some brush shaking stuff,

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and I have like video of it, but I never

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even analyzed the video. In fact, it's a tragedy. I've

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never analyzed any of the video of my encounters. But

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that's another story I have. And people even say I

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have Bigfoot on video. I didn't even check. But I'm

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going too soon. There's a lot of trauma associated with

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this because this is of course gpsley is terrifying when

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you realize bigfoots around you and it's real, it's the

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scariest thing in the world because there's no defense. There's

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no protection against bigfoot. I carry a gun, but it's

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not even for the bigfoot. It's for people. It's for

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scaring animals, like a noise to term boom or or myself.

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I'm not letting you take me hostage, but I do

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carry a gun. I would never use it on a

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bigfoot never ever. I'd sooner have them kill me. So

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my girlfriend and I had been prospecting who's coming with

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me a lot. We started having these weird things, and

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I'm like, you know what, I think I got to

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go out there and try to having a bigfoot encounter.

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So I said, you know, let's go prospecting up in Oregon.

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I know some places where I can go nugget hunting,

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and there are also places with historic bigfoot encounters going

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back to the eighteen hundreds. And that's where my bigfoot

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road came in. Home Man, and so I went on

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my first and only bigfoot road trip, and I went

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looking for Bigfoot, and Bigfoot found me and it was

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absolutely terrifying. But it wasn't even my most terrifying encounter.

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My most terrifying would happen a couple of years ago.

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So we go. We're in southern Oregon, between Cave Junction

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and the coast, which if you look it out on

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the map, there's nothing there. And we're going twenty miles

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west of Cave Junction on dirt roads that are so

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impossible to get through. And it was amaze too, because

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there'd be multiple forks. I had no idea where I

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was going. I'd just cut take a fork, take a fork,

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and we're I think we're on a branch of Josephine Creek.

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I think it's Jackson County, but I think it was

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a fork of Justphine Creek. It goes east west the river,

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and so we're following the river. I'm taking random forks,

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and then we come to just this little clearing area

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next to the river, surrounded by forest with a big

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mountain on the other side of the river or creek,

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I'm not sure. And this mountain, when you look at

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it was really interesting because it went really high up

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and then it plateaued and then it went further high

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up and it was just like a full beautiful ecosystem.

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It had cover, it had level areas, it had water

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coming off in different areas. It was like a fully

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sustainable place for bigfoot to live full time. And I

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think this is where they're living full time and why

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we had our encounter this area. If you look it

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up on BFRO Josephine, Jackson County, I forget which one

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you will find historic encounters that go back to I

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think they have one of some hunter giving meat to

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giving venison to a large ape man that approached him,

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and this is in the same area of that. But

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incredible ecosystem. So during the day, I had a metal

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detectorles mostly metal detecting, us doing some panning. I was

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going through all the old mine washes, ground sluices, sampling

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detect We started hiking up the hillside on the other

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side of the creek. I was making whoops, I was

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doing rock clocks, I was doing woodknocks. I was making

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a ruckus while I was detecting. I would stop every

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once in a while whack my flip flops and then

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continue detecting. And it got later in the day and

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we were like, all right, let's camp here. And so

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we had a relatively flat area right next to the

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river there and set up our little tent. Took us,

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by the way, two hours to set up, in less

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than ten minutes to get out, and we had all

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this stuff closedlines and all our stuff laid out. We

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had a little fire pit and we're so I made

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a ruckus during the day and then I have a

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campfire and the sun is setting. It's a pretty quiet night.

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There's not really much of a breeze at all. It's

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really peaceful, and I've got this fire going. And at

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one point we're getting close to getting ready to go

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to bed, and this firepit had a large trunk of

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metal inside of it that I wasn't aware of, and

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somehow I hit it with something and it was like

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the loudest thing in the world. It was like oh

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woh wah wah wah wah wow, and it echoed for

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miles down this canyon. It was so loud. I was

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like Bigfoot wasn't coming then, like that literally, like they

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could see the campfire. I made a ruckus during the day.

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There's the loud, obnoxious, metallic bang and then on top

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of all that, it was my girlfriend's period, and so

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she goes behind a tree.

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Yeah, yeah, that's why.

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Yeah, So it's everything together. And in hindsight I realized this,

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I could have lost her this night. Yeah, because she

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was going to go pee at one point and she

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was like, hey, could you come out with me? I

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was like, oh, watch you, You're only ten feet away,

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only ten feet away. So she goes right next to

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a tree about ten feet away, just behind this tree,

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and she peased, releasing her pheromones, and the breezes carrying

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those paramones through the canyon. This is just me, in hindsight,

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pacing things together. She goes pee and then she comes back,

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and now I realized how dangerous it was. You can't

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let people ten feet away from you in bigfoot country,

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especially women, especially women on their period. So I'm there,

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my girlfriend goes pete. We're like, okay, we're going to

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go to bed now, or try to. So we lay

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down and I had in my I prepared for the

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possibility of a bigfoot encounter. I had a GoPro next

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to me, had a one button mode, so I clicked

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the button and it would just start up within a

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second or two, and so I was ready just in

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case something happened that I would turn on the go

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pro right away. And I was like, whatever it is,

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I'm going to encounter it if this happens. It was

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very peaceful. We're laying down. I think probably about ten

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to fifteen minutes go by. My heart's racing. I'm a

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little scared because we're in such a remote place. I

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don't think I'd ever slept in a place this remote.

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It was. We're thirty miles from a town. I don't

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even know if they have a thousand people Cave Johnson

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hardly even a town. Do they even have a gas station? Maybe?

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I don't know. It's so small and here we are.

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I don't even know how to get out of this place.

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Because I took all these forks and the huge boulders

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and going around stuff. It was like, this is crazy.

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We're deep and like, just somebody, go on your map,

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go to Cave Junction and go twenty to thirty miles

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west and you'll be like, whoa dude, it's just scary

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going there. It's so wild, and once you get to

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where we were, you can see how green and thicket

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gets with the canyons. It's just such a perfect full

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time ecosystem for them. So we're laying there in bed,

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and I'm just starting to feel like, you know what,

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maybe I will be able to sleep here. This is

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actually really nice. And I'm listening to the forest. I'm

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laying on my back, which actually would be an important factor.

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I'm laying on my back and I'm listening to the

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forest around us. There's leaf litter and twigs all through

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the forest nearby, and I hear what sounds like something

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very slowly walking in the forest, but I'm immediately trying

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to justify it away. I'm like, no, it's not, it's

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not it's a deer, it's a bird. Because birds can

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actually make a lot of noise and they rustle around

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and brushes and stuff. It can throw you off. So

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I hear what sounds like something really big slowly walking

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on the ground, Like it's if you're slowly walking on

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a bunch of twigs and they're just slowly cracking. Right.

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So I hear what sounds like an elephant trying to

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ninja its way through the woods, and I'm just immediately

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as it's happened, I'm going, no, this is it's not real.

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Is that's just it's not what I think it is.

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And it's like so I'm like and then it stops

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and I go, Okay, that was weird. But it's nothing.

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There's nothing. It is a deer. There's tons of deer.

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They come by, they lick your clothes for salt, they

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get close. This is a known thing, but it wasn't

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like deer because hoofs they're like pitter patter, they're not

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and they'll break some twigs. But this was strange. So

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I'm laying there and I'm like, there's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing.

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And I'm like, okay, you know what I think I'm

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gonna I think I'm gonna fall asleep. I'm gonna fall asleep.

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And then oh boom boom boom, and I felt it

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resonate the power of the stomps go through my body.

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Because I was laying on my back. I could feel

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the power of these stomps go through my body. And

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it was very obviously something that was extremely powerful, extremely heavy, intentional, bipedal.

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Unless there's two legged elephants out there in Oregon. The

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most plausible thing immediately in my head was bigfoot is here?

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Because what else could this be. I had already done

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my research, I was in a bigfoot area. I had

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done everything right or wrong, depending on the way you

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look at it. And here I am, this thing's tiptoed,

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and now it justifies, Oh my gosh, it was sneaking

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up on us, and it's very close by. It has stomped,

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and it was just like that boom boom, boom boom,

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and it just through my body. I felt it. It

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was just like I could see it with my mind,

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just right there near us, looking at us, and I

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just immediately my eyes welled up in tears. And I

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turn on the GoPro and I have this video. I

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had it posted. At one point, I took it down

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and old channel, but I'm gonna repost it because this

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is the video. Someone says I actually got Bigfoot on

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the video. Very scary situation. I turn on the GoPro

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and I just say, in a very cracked voice, Bigfoot,

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He's here. And I'm just so scared because I'm like,

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I'm gonna open this tent. I told myself, no matter what,

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I'm opening the tent. So I have the GoPro on,

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I have my headlamp on and I unzip the tent

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and I look out into the forest and I start

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scanning the forest from where I think the sound comes from.

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These trees, maybe twenty thirty feet away. There's tons of them,

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and I'm just looking at these trees, scanning them with

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my camera and my light, and I'm just overwhelmed right now,

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and I'm expecting there to be something, but there's so

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many trees where this thing could hide, and we're just

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so scared. My girlfriend goes, I don't want to be

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here anymore. You hear on camera. I don't want to

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be here anymore. Let's leave. I want to get out

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of here. And we're just so scared because something's not right,

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something is near us. And I had told her about Bigfoot,

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and she's like, yeah, whatever, But at that moment she

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realized we were in for more than we bargained for.

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And I got what I came for, and I wasn't

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ready for it. I wasn't ready for this experience. I

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came ill prepared mentally. And I also felt like this

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was I don't know, it didn't want us there. If

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it's going to stomp like this, it's maybe telling us

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to get out. But my girlfriend was scared. I was terrified.

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We just we left half our camp there. I left

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the camera on a log nearby with light shining on

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us as we take down our camp. So there's a

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video of us. The whole video is I get up

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bigfoots here. I ends up the tent. I put the

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camera off to the side. You see us. You can

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see the forest in the background with light shining into it.

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And for about five minutes, ten minutes, we're just throwing

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stuff together, throwing it in the back of the car

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as quickly as we can. And we just left a

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bunch of stuff there too, and we just jump in

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the car and we start heading out of there as

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quickly as possible. I'm still rolling the camera. You can

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see the drive out and some guy swears I have

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a big foot on there. It's possible I do, but

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I literally even when I posted the footage back then,

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I didn't even go through it. I didn't even analyze

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the footage. Now, with my better software, I could probably

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change levels, contrasts, brightness and just combing through there and

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see is there some little thing poking out? And we

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were so scared. I hauled out of there and hear

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broke the vehicle getting out of there, and we get

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back to some tiny, little crummy motel out in Cave

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Junction area, and we're just so full of adrenaline we

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just we could. We didn't sleep that night. It was like,

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oh my gosh, can you believe what happened? That was

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crazy and it was exciting after the fact, but at

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the time it was terrifying. And then we would have

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several more encounters that trip, which I still don't consider encounters,

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but I believe they probably were. During that road trip,

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I would drive at night along remote forest roads and

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I would drive slowly, and I would stop every couple

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of miles and I'd take off my flip flops and

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go whack, whack, whack, and I would just do that.

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I'd do these and then i'd just wait and listen,

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and I go, okay, let's get back in the car,

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and we'd drive a couple of miles, i'd stop, I'd

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whack whack whack. It sounded like rock clacks. It's just resonated.

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It was disruptive. Several times I did this. There was

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a couple incidences where this really caused an uproar, like instantly,

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and I can't really explain what would make this sound

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or why at that exact time, because there's a few

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times where we were near the Oregon Caves and I

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go whack whack what and almost right away it goes

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waa wack whack whack, and it was like three different

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directions around me, and I'm like, Okay, that's strange. I

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think I have that on video too. And then that

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was strange and I couldn't get them to go again.

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So I held up an apple in the air because

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I brought all these apples, and I put apples on

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logs nearby, just as a good gesture in case they

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were bigfoot. And so I did have some of those

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encounters like that where I had some responses for my calls,

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but it would be several years later until I had

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my most intense encounter, which was a few years ago.

451
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:49.920
My goodness, I can't imagine. I'm trying to think real quick. Yeah,

452
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.920
this is really intense. That is extremely intense. How was

453
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.359
your girlfriend after all that for the rest of the trip.

454
00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:59.079
I'll tell you what. She was full of life after that.

455
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.119
It woke her up to everything. I think it turned

456
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:05.440
her world upside down because that girlfriend she was from

457
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:08.279
a country where one of the few countries that maybe

458
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.440
has no bigfoot phenomena. I have to double check, but

459
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.240
I don't believe that part of eastern Europe is really

460
00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.319
known for it. She had never heard of it. She

461
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.559
didn't believe me, and she was like, yeah, she just

462
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:22.279
was along for the ride, having a good time. But

463
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:24.920
that was the moment where she goes, Okay, this is

464
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:29.160
probably real. Something's going on. And my poor wife, gosh,

465
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.319
I dragged her on adventures and she's been to Hell

466
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.559
and back with me, and she doesn't even really want

467
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:36.440
to go to the woods after the things I've taken

468
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:36.920
her through.

469
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.119
Oh wow.

470
00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:41.039
Yeah, that part of southern Oregon, though, if you look

471
00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:43.640
at it, it's just really the perfect court or if

472
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:44.880
I were a Bigfoot I live there.

473
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:45.960
Yeah.

474
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.319
You mentioned Oregon Caves, and that is that areas I

475
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:55.079
believe is well known for doctor Matthew Johnson's sighting that happened.

476
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.079
I don't want to say it was about twenty years

477
00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:00.519
ago now, So that's around the Oregon Caves area you

478
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.079
were talking about. And then there there's all sorts of

479
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.160
that area where you're talking about west of Cape Junction. Yeah, dude,

480
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.839
there is there's nothing out there. There's absolutely nothing out there,

481
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:17.680
and there's some wild stuff that happens. So after you

482
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.519
you're going along for the Bigfoot road trip and you're

483
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.839
hitting your flip flops and getting responses, was that the

484
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.720
wildest thing then that happened at the end of that trip.

485
00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.799
The climax of the road trip was our I thing.

486
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.240
It was like our first night maybe or second I

487
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.440
was did a campground out around Ashland area or Grants

488
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.160
Pass actually, and then the second night is when we

489
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.000
went out to the Josephine Creek area. And yeah, that

490
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.000
was the climax of our road trip because feeling and

491
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.200
hearing the power, because Okay, now I have heard and

492
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.480
felt Bigfoot, and I just know in my head there

493
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.680
is nothing else this could be. I've had black bears,

494
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.599
grizzy bears, even polar bears around me. I've had the

495
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:05.200
biggest game, mountain lions, you name it. I've had it

496
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.559
very close to me. I'm aware of these behaviors and sound.

497
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:13.400
This thing was powerful. I could feel it through my body.

498
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.279
It was like it shook the forest, it shook the earth.

499
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.759
You could I could feel the tremors travel from its

500
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.759
feet through my body and bears they don't. They can't

501
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.640
even do that. They got these padded feet. They're not bipedal,

502
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.680
they're not heavy enough, they don't have any the ability

503
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.599
to do this. So I knew immediately this was Bigfoot,

504
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.359
and people, ah, yeah, you're biased. It's like, well, you

505
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.839
tell me what it was. Someone give me a good

506
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.559
explanation of what it was. The most plausible thing is

507
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.039
actually bigfoot. And so I knew right away it was Bigfoot.

508
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.519
That's why I said bigfoots here, and I knew Bigfoot

509
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.440
was right next to us at that point in time,

510
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.319
potentially several Absolutely.

511
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.720
It's tricky I think because I know a lot of

512
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.440
listeners right now are probably like, oh man, he's got

513
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.680
video and it's just hanging out, But guys like it.

514
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.559
When you're in a situation like this, it's very hard

515
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.640
because going through something that's very traumatic and a lot

516
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.759
of times I totally get it. You just don't want

517
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:16.160
to put yourself back in that situation. Have you ever

518
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:20.240
considered maybe like a YouTube channel where other people could

519
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:23.480
maybe even try to analyze it for you by watching.

520
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:23.599
It, or.

521
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.640
Yeah, to get back to what you're saying here, Yeah,

522
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.519
I will do that. I will repost this, but there's

523
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.759
a few reasons. There's several reasons why I haven't. I

524
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:36.680
had to take it down and I haven't put it

525
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.920
back up. One of the reasons, just one of them,

526
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.200
is the trauma, and that wasn't even the traumatic one.

527
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.079
That one is more so with the girlfriend. I have

528
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.000
to edit out her voice and her likeness because we're

529
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.359
no longer together. So I got to go through and

530
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.240
really comb through it and make sure I'm not revealing

531
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.519
the location. I mean whatever, I'll revealed it. At this point.

532
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.920
It's been long enough. I don't care for that one.

533
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.519
But the next encounter I had that I haven't talked

534
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.680
about this one is an extremely gold Riich area. I

535
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.119
found the best goal of my life, and now that

536
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.680
I've said that, I definitely can't to show it. But

537
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.680
people they just know it. They know me, and there's

538
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.920
a missing gap in my life from the prospecting community.

539
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.279
I stopped posting and I was focused on getting rich

540
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:19.079
on gold and that encounter I have to I'm spinning

541
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.079
the camera around revealing the location. There's monuments you can

542
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.000
very clearly. For prospectors, it's a small world. They know

543
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.400
the forest well, and you could just show a little

544
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:33.160
mountaintop and they'll know. So that area is even more challenging.

545
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:35.799
But if you look at my channel trailer on Adventure Person,

546
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.519
I have a small clip from that video and it's me,

547
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.319
and it's very unflattering, by the way, extremely unflattering of

548
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.039
me to show you like how serious I am that

549
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.839
this is real. You see me looking into the camera

550
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.319
and I'm crying and I look like crap, I got

551
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.440
big bags under my eyes because I'm so emotional, and

552
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.640
I just say, there's a bigfoot right over here. And

553
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.519
that's the only thing I've shown from that so far.

554
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:03.519
And I just released that like a week ago, and

555
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.880
it is part of a bigger compilation too. It's oh here,

556
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.759
I'm adventure Person, I'm exploring. I like to go do

557
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.079
epic stuff and oh yeah, I'm also into big foot

558
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.440
and paranormal stuff. Oh yeah, I'm also into this other stuff.

559
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.319
So it's just like a moment in there, but a

560
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:20.039
little teaser because it is something I will be pursuing

561
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:22.880
potentially for the rest of my life. So yeah, there's

562
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:24.640
a lot of reasons why I haven't shared this footage.

563
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.279
You got ex girlfriends, you have sensitive locations, legal implications,

564
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.759
you have, the trauma going and reliving it is intense.

565
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.519
It's hard for me to watch the footage. Even thinking

566
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.480
about doing this interview last night and brought back a

567
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.279
lot of emotions. I started to get chills and shivers,

568
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.519
kind of chewing, like Bigfoot hovering over me. And I

569
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.319
just know that my quest is not done regardless, and

570
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.680
I'm ready to embrace it now though, And that's why

571
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.279
I'm here, and I want to own this and I

572
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.160
want to share with people these experiences so they can

573
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.160
have the right frame of mind and approach this in

574
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.400
a serious way without getting hurt. Because I used to

575
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.839
think Bigfoot was one hundred percent benevolent and peaceful, but

576
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.119
it's not true. Bigfoot is mostly peaceful most of the time,

577
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.440
but when you don't listen to them, like the kids

578
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.759
in the Ural Mountains, did y'atlift pass into it. That's

579
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.119
what was going through my mind the most recent encounter

580
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.200
with my now wife, I was thinking, if we don't

581
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.480
leave right now, we might get killed. So when Bigfoot

582
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:28.240
yells at you, especially when they scream or do anything menacing,

583
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:29.559
you need to listen.

584
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.680
I agree with you, one hundred percent is extremely important

585
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.240
to listen and have the right intentions out there as well.

586
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.160
I think it's a huge part of it as well.

587
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:43.920
So you've gone, you went through all of these very

588
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.680
traumatic experiences with your girlfriend at the time and then,

589
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.039
but it didn't stop you. You kept going to try

590
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:57.160
to figure out what is all exactly going on with

591
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:01.160
this phenomenon. It sounds like things actually got more intense

592
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:05.920
as you went out there to have more experiences.

593
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.839
Yeah. I realized at that point in time that I

594
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:10.880
didn't even need to look for Bigfoot. I was going

595
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.759
to continue looking for gold, and sooner or later, Bigfoot

596
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.119
was going to find me again. And Bigfoot did find

597
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.720
me again some years later I was and now I'll

598
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.960
tell this story. This was my most recent encounter. This

599
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.880
was right before I went on the reality show Frozen Gold,

600
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.640
which most people probably know me for. It was shortly

601
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.680
before going on the show. This was I think the

602
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:35.480
year twenty twenty, right, I think it was the summer

603
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:40.319
of twenty twenty, and I grabbed my then girlfriend and

604
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.039
I'm like, we're going on an adventure. We're going to

605
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:48.200
the woods. This was a location I found accidentally and

606
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.400
it was unbelievable. The gold I found. It was the

607
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.960
stuff that people dream of. I had been looking for

608
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.440
gold for over a decade and I had If you

609
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.559
look at my chin tiler, I know what good gold

610
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.799
is because I have pants full of nuggets and pickers.

611
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:06.599
I know what good gold looks like. I have a

612
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.440
vial of nuggets right here to prove it, and lots

613
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.319
of gold right here, just to show you. It was

614
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.920
spectacular gold. And there's a reason why the gold was

615
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.920
so spectacular. This area had a history of encounters, and

616
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.960
encounters would follow my encounter as well from friends who

617
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.759
went to the same location and they didn't know about

618
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.640
my encounter either. They told me, and then I don't

619
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.319
even know if I told them. They just told me,

620
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.400
and I'm like, wow, that's crazy. They went to the

621
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.279
same area and had encounters and they were chased out

622
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:38.759
like I was. So we go to this place. I'll

623
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.279
tell you it's in Sierra County, California. And you look

624
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.400
at Sierra County, it's like the thickest woods, some of

625
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.880
the thickest woods in California, some of the biggest mountains,

626
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.960
some of the thickest woods as a whole, as a county.

627
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.200
And so we're out there in deep Tierra County. This

628
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.440
place is so remote. We're talking I don't even know

629
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.119
the closest town. You're so many hours from the closest town.

630
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.960
And then they're not even towns, they're just like Cave Junction,

631
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.960
like a tiny little I'm sorry, people of Cave Junction.

632
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.480
I'm sure I don't know enough about Cave Junction. I

633
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:13.680
was just looking at it. It still doesn't look very big.

634
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.079
It looks really small. So we are so remote that

635
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.160
we're going on this dirt road for a long time.

636
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.440
I had only been to this location once. It was

637
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.119
so overgrown, and I have this video of me driving

638
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.519
out there and these big branches going over the car,

639
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.759
and I'm just like, wow, people are not going out here.

640
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.920
And I even say something, I'm like, wow, it feels

641
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.599
like we might have a big foot encounter out here. Gosh,

642
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.720
that's crazy. Wow, that's a good place for bigfoot. And actually,

643
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.960
before we left for the trip, I had a sensation

644
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.759
and I couldn't put my finger on the sensation. I

645
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.759
was like, something's going to happen this trip. I don't

646
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:54.559
know what. Yeah, And I had learned to understand these

647
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.160
emotions to the point where I could tell how the

648
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.799
trip would go. I would just in my mind but

649
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.559
things ideas, and I'd hover over the idea, and if

650
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.319
I started to get the hair on my neck, I'd say,

651
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.800
that's what's gonna happen. I never thought about Bigfoot, but

652
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:10.800
I was like, am I gonna get injured? Am I

653
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.280
gonna find gold? And is someone with a gun gonna

654
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:17.559
threaten me? Like has happened? And it's like, no, I

655
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.599
think I'm gonna be okay. But something weird, Like I

656
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.079
just had this unnerving feeling before I even left, and

657
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.840
I'm like, something feels weird about this trip. So here

658
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.480
we are, We're going through the forest and I'm getting

659
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.760
that sensation again. I'm getting that I'm starting to get scared.

660
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:34.840
It's the middle of the day, but because of how

661
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.280
remote it is, I'm starting to get scared. And I'm

662
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.480
seeing how overgrown the road is. And I've been on

663
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.920
remote roads that are still groomed, but this one was

664
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.639
not groomed at all. Huge branches and brush all through

665
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.119
the road. And we get to this area where I

666
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.440
had been preparing for this. By the way, for years,

667
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.440
I've been preparing for this moment to mine this gold

668
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.239
for I don't know, three years since I found the gold,

669
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.880
because I needed the right equipment, and the equipment needed

670
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.800
to be specially made for that location and that material.

671
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.840
And so okay, I've got the equipment. It's in the

672
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.880
back of the car. We're going to get the gold

673
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:12.880
of our lifetime. You won't believe how rich this is, babe. Oh,

674
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.079
this is gonna be awesome. So I want to go

675
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.440
down there and sample one last time before I get

676
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.159
the equipment out of the car. So like, all right,

677
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.719
we've parked the car. We're in a little clearing. I'm

678
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.599
about one hundred feet in diameter, and everything else is

679
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.119
just thick forest and mountains for miles. There's creeks that

680
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.320
converge around us, like in the middle of bisecting creeks,

681
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.719
and then there's like a rugged road off to the side,

682
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.400
so we go down towards the creek. We get to

683
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.480
this hidden location. I don't want to reveal too many

684
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.280
details because prospectors are smart. They can figure this stuff out.

685
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.239
It's absolutely so.

686
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.320
Yeah, definitely be careful.

687
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.559
So I don't want to reveal exactly. It's really easy

688
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.039
to reveal the location, and eventually I probably just will

689
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.119
I'll just say screw, I'll just dump the footage and

690
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.800
you guys go, I go, good luck with that gold.

691
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.039
And this goes to show you like how serious it was.

692
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.360
Because I haven't been back and I'm terrified to go back.

693
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:11.239
So we're going down this hillside and the place where

694
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.840
the gold is very specific. If I hadn't gotten this

695
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.840
one pan, I went and have realized how spectacularly rich

696
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.639
the area was. Everything else didn't pan out that well.

697
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.840
There are some flakes here and there that you wouldn't

698
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:25.960
think much of it. I probably did one hundred pins

699
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.840
in the area over my first trip with a buddy.

700
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.480
And so when I came back with my wife, here

701
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.760
we are, and we go, it's the place where the

702
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.159
gold is. It's like you have to go in there.

703
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:42.199
It's it's a cave. It was a cave. It wasn't.

704
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.639
It was a cave, and it was hidden. It was

705
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.920
really hard to find, and you could look for the

706
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.320
cave and not find it. It was up on a

707
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:56.480
hillside shrouded by brush. But when you open up the brush, boom,

708
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.559
there's a cave. And I was looking for the cave.

709
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.880
I had been there once before. I couldn't even find it.

710
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.119
It took me like an hour or so. I was

711
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.559
passing it multiple times. That's how hidden this cave is.

712
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.760
And so I'm like, all right, cool, let's go in.

713
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.679
There's go in the cave and it's like really dark

714
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.960
and lots of rocks and slimy and just full of

715
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.039
water puddles and stuff too, the groundwater seeping in there

716
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.760
and you're slashing through water and mud. And I get

717
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.519
in there and I hike into the cave. It goes

718
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:29.880
deep this cave. I didn't go to the end, but

719
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.039
I had hiked in a couple hundred feet and it's

720
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.800
just so dangerous in there, so slippery, there's a lot

721
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.400
of sharp stuff. It's crazy. And so I'm like, I

722
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.199
just want to verify the gold is where I thought

723
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.000
it was. The verify double check that it's as good

724
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.840
as I remember before I get the heavy equipment out

725
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.519
of the car, ike it down the hill, hike it

726
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.199
in the cave. This is gonna be a big painting.

727
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.000
So I'm like, all right, babe, Like I did the pan,

728
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.400
I'm like, boo, thousands of colors just exploding with gold

729
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.320
when you get the right layer of the material. Because

730
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.559
I had sampled even in the cave and there's nothing.

731
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.480
But then there's this one handful of material I found

732
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.480
hidden in the muck. And in the muck, hidden in

733
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.679
between layers was a layer of really dense clay. And

734
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.920
I took the clay and I'm rubbing it, I'm working it,

735
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.239
and it was just I'd never seen so much cold.

736
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.920
We're talking like tens of thousands of pieces of gold.

737
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.599
You call the color right. It was insane. It was

738
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.480
absolutely insane. It was old timer stuff we're talking about here,

739
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.679
And I'm like, wow, I was so excited. This is spectacular.

740
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.320
I had found lots of good gold and deposits, but

741
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.800
this was something else like this was something that could

742
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.440
make you rich. And I'm like, all right, it's here, babe,

743
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.800
we're doing it. We're getting this stuff out of the car.

744
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.079
And so we got out of the cave. We'd get

745
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.440
out of there, and we're hiking back up to we

746
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.360
have to hike out of the area, and we're actually

747
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.400
parked on top of the mountain. Cave was a bit

748
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:06.440
below on the mountain, and so unfortunately I've already revealed

749
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.559
this location. Some people are going to figure it out

750
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:10.800
and they'll probably but I don't at this point, I

751
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.400
don't even care because I want them to just I

752
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.079
just hope that I'm worried about the Bigfoot more than anything,

753
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.559
to be honest with you, because I know a lot

754
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.519
of people don't have the respect that you and me

755
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.079
have for him. They'll just be like, ah, screwed up

756
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.559
a monster and shooting at it. It's like, come on, man,

757
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.760
it's like shooting a person. Man. So I have a

758
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.920
lot of respect for him. So we're heading out of

759
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.239
the cave and we're going back to the car, and

760
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.280
just as requesting the top of the hill to go

761
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.599
towards the meadow, that's when I hear the first sound.

762
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.119
And it's before I tell you the sound. Let me

763
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:45.960
tell you. When I was a kid, I was in

764
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.320
Costa Rica, sleeping on the Turtle River El Rio Tortuguero,

765
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.639
and it was in the jungle, and I was with

766
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.000
my dad and at nighttime we heard the howler monkeys,

767
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.079
and so I remember exactly what the howler monkeys sound like.

768
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.440
I have that hole in Cow video with the howler monkeys,

769
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.920
and this was so much like a howler monkey. And

770
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.280
so the moment we're crusting up the hillside I hear,

771
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.000
and it was just so intense, so loud, and projected

772
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.719
right towards us from right behind us, maybe I don't know,

773
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.960
one hundred feet or something, and it sounded just like that.

774
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.159
It sounded just like an extremely loud, deep howler monkey.

775
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.000
And I had heard bigfoot recordings, I didn't hear anything

776
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.440
like this even but it was obviously ape like you

777
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.119
could hear it. It was very sounded a little monkey,

778
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.880
but with the depth and power of an ape, and

779
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:45.400
then had the raspy end. And the second I heard it,

780
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.199
my wife and I just look at each other and

781
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.199
I got the chills. And the timing of it was

782
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.079
perfect too, because we were crusting the hillside about to

783
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.719
get to the level area back to her car. That's

784
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.360
like the human area, right, that's where maybe if humans

785
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.760
go to the area, that's where they park. So on

786
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.159
my wow, the timing of that was weird too, so

787
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.599
a few seconds ago by it and I'm like, first,

788
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:06.599
I'm like, that was a bigfoot. Then I tell my

789
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.039
girlfriend like, no, it's nothing. It is our imagination dog,

790
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.519
It's just a person. I don't know. I just shrugged

791
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:14.800
it off. I'm like, it's not real. There's no bigfoot here.

792
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:20.440
Then it happened again, and I'm like, this sound like bigfoot.

793
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.400
That sound like bigfoot, and I'm like, okay, shrug it off.

794
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.039
I go back to the car and the forest goes

795
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:28.960
quiet and we're like okay. And I'm sitting there and

796
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.239
I'm like, okay, let's just think for a minute. If

797
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.880
I get out of sandwich, I start eating a sandwich.

798
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.360
The sun's starting to set, and I have to make

799
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.840
a decision quickly. I have to decide are we staying

800
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.519
here in mining and sleeping here, or are we leaving?

801
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:44.920
And I still wasn't convinced that we had a big foot,

802
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.320
and so I start eating the sandwich and I'm like, no,

803
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.119
it's a dog. Someone's out here with their dog. And

804
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.559
I try to convince myself that it's a dog, even

805
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.079
though it was very clearly an ape on a PA

806
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.800
system turned up to mac you know, like you know,

807
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.079
And so I'm like to try to convince myself that

808
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.840
this wasn't a dog. I go, you know what I'm

809
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.920
gonna go. I'm gonna sing. So I get up on

810
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.119
this log that's three feet tall. I stand up on

811
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.159
top of it with my sandwich, and I'm like, I

812
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.400
start singing some song from the radio. It was like

813
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.800
some cheesy pop song, and my voice bellows through the canyon.

814
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:26.079
I can hear my voice, oh, just echoing so well

815
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.280
through the canyon, and I'm like wow. And just as

816
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.920
I start singing, it erupts again just who And then

817
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.000
another one from because this one I'm hearing is this direction,

818
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:40.559
and then another one over here.

819
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:43.159
Wow.

820
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.360
My wife looks at me and I start to tear up.

821
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.280
I'm like, oh my gosh. She's like, I think you

822
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.239
pissed him off. I think I just accidentally antagonized Bigfoot.

823
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.400
But I at that point I realized something is totally

824
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.320
not right, and then I just the rest of it

825
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.599
just everything went so quickly from there. The sun was

826
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:05.599
setting very quickly. I'm looking at my wife. She's scared.

827
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.079
I'm scared. There's these strange sounds in the woods. There's

828
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.239
obviously eight and then they I just set in motion

829
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:18.079
a series of events where there's and then I'm like,

830
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:20.519
I have my camera rolling. Unfortunately, my phone was in

831
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:24.000
a case, in a thick case. There's completely covered, so

832
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.280
it totally screwed up the audio. Granted, even people with

833
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.559
parabolic mics say that. I don't know about the parabolic mics,

834
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.039
but a lot of audio systems don't record big foot

835
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.239
like I think. You need a very high end setup

836
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.639
to really capture anything that's close to what you actually

837
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.639
heard in the field. So I can hear the bass,

838
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:43.679
but when I've listened to the audio, I can barely

839
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.480
hear it. I need to try to boost it and

840
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.599
see what I can do, but I don't know. So

841
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:49.920
I'm sitting there, I've got my camera. I'm like, this

842
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.239
is crazy. I'm so scared. At that point, I'm starting

843
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.559
to real my head's just racing because things are going

844
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:57.079
so quickly. I have to make decisions. If we're gonna leave,

845
00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.000
we have to leave quickly because the sun's setting. I

846
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.559
don't even know how to get out of this place.

847
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.119
There's no internet connection, the GPS doesn't work. And I

848
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:09.679
hear it row row, and then behind us and there

849
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.639
I can feel them. There's a triangle around us. I'm like, oh,

850
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.559
and then I can hear them moving. It's row and

851
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.320
now that one over here is over here. The one

852
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.239
over here is over here. They're moving so quickly, so

853
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.800
the one that was maybe let's call it five hundred

854
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.440
feet up to creek this way. A few seconds later,

855
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.079
it's five hundred up to creek this way. Either that

856
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.920
or there's so many of them, but there's at least

857
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:35.760
three of them, and they were forming a perfect triangle

858
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.880
around us. The one part that I wasn't hearing noise

859
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.960
was the exit, the place we were supposed to the place

860
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:46.320
we came in, the little rugged road, and so things

861
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:54.400
just were getting crazy. They were just screaming, insane, and

862
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.159
they were just they were moving and it was getting louder,

863
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.920
and they're getting closer, and I just look at my wife.

864
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.760
I realized at that point, this is we're not I'm

865
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.320
not mining today. There's no way I'm gonna mind today.

866
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.599
That was out of the question. At this point, I'm like,

867
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.199
I have an opportunity to get a video of Bigfoot.

868
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.079
And there's a little game trail that went down to

869
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.159
the creek. It was like a one hundred foot drop, and

870
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.119
I was like, if I run down there quietly on

871
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.320
the heels of my feet, I can run like a ninja.

872
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.079
I might be able to catch it off guard. And

873
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.280
so I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna run down real quick, babe,

874
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:28.719
and I'm gonna catch it off guard. Come on, follow me.

875
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.760
And I love her, but she's not very fast, she's

876
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.559
not nimble, she's not an outdoors person. She didn't grow

877
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.119
up running on rocks through rivers and creeks. She grew

878
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.360
up in another country, in a city. So I start

879
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.320
running down this road and I realized, there's no way

880
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.639
my girlfriend can keep up with me. She's terrified. I'm

881
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:49.960
about fifty feet down this game trail trying to cut

882
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:51.599
off the big Foot where I believe they are at

883
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.840
the creek, and I feel like I'm really close, and

884
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.280
I just realized, oh my gosh, I'm so worried about her.

885
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.360
And I jogged back up really quickly, and I look

886
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.559
at her and she's she's she's so scared. She's sweating,

887
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.519
she's covering dirt. She she doesn't know, and I'm just like,

888
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.719
I can't leave her here. She can't keep up with me.

889
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.400
And then I started to get these images of the

890
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:14.519
Dyotlift Pass incident because I had seen the autopsies, and

891
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.320
three people were bludgeoned to death by unknown forces, which

892
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.840
were most likely a bigfoot or several bigfoot, and I realized, Okay,

893
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.360
those kids were warned, and they didn't follow the warnings.

894
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.079
They were warned by the locals, the native people in

895
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.039
the area warned them, they go there, we don't go there.

896
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.280
That's for them. If you go there, you expect to

897
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.119
be killed, and especially if they warn you. And those

898
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.960
kids were warned they had encountered a big foot. They

899
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.519
even had a photo of one, and so that was

900
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.159
the last photo they had the kids at the Dyotlift Pass.

901
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.239
My point is that they were warned by the locals,

902
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.039
and they were warned by the bigfoot, and they didn't

903
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.840
heed the warnings and they all died. And this was

904
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.840
the biggest mass murder of bigfoot probably that we know of.

905
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:01.400
And nine people died murdered by bigfoot that the rest

906
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.719
were terrorized and forced into exposure deaths. So I'm having

907
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.880
that go through my head. I'm looking at my poor girlfriend.

908
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.719
I'm like, if I was there with a guy who

909
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.559
is into bigfoot, and he'd be like, yeah, let's go

910
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:14.000
to the creek. But she couldn't keep up. She's just

911
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.719
so scared. I felt so bad. I'm like, she's my responsibility,

912
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.880
Like I can't leave her here, and I'm just like, Babe,

913
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:21.159
we got to get out of here. We got to

914
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.039
get out of here. These things are screaming at us,

915
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.039
They're closing in on us. The sun is setting, and

916
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.039
we jump in the car and I'm just fish tailing

917
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.639
and freaking crashing into rocks and I just start high

918
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.599
tailing it out of there, and I am just so scared.

919
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.880
It took us forever to get in here, and we're

920
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.599
taking these roads. I'm trying to use the GPS, but

921
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.800
the signal comes in and out, and I felt like

922
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.559
we're making progress getting out of the area. This was

923
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.920
the scariest thing. This was like a nightmare. We thought

924
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:55.360
the nightmare had ended from all these terrible sounds triangulating

925
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.320
around us. But as we're leaving, we drive for an

926
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.039
hour through the dark, thick woods with brush through our car,

927
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.800
and I stopped the car and we're exactly where we

928
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:06.679
were an hour ago.

929
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.039
No way, and I'm like, oh, no, oh, bok.

930
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:12.880
Back to that happened. There's no way that could have happened.

931
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.079
It was like we're in a time warp. I'm like,

932
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.360
this is crazy. And it was such a scary thing

933
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.920
because we knew like they were in the area and

934
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.719
they could jump out to the car. They're going to

935
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.800
jump in front of us. I'm like, this is such

936
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.320
a nightmare. We just drove for an hour. We're running

937
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.239
along gas, we're terrified. We can barely see the road

938
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:33.039
it's so overgrown. And here we are, exactly where we

939
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.800
were an hour ago, driving through all these roads, taking

940
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.800
cut cut cut cut, driving through these scary, dark forest roads,

941
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.199
and here we are exactly where we were one hour

942
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.840
ago driving in these woods. It was the scariest thing.

943
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:47.920
We thought we were going crazy. It was like we

944
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.880
went through a freaking portal and we just wound up

945
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.639
right back where we were. And I had never had

946
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:56.519
that happen to me, because I have a pretty good

947
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.800
sense of direction. This has never happened to me in

948
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.440
the woods. So I'm not going to attribute that to Bigfoot,

949
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.480
even though they're known for these anomalies of time and

950
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.159
things like that. I'm not going to jump to that conclusion.

951
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:12.519
But I will say it was very strange that after

952
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.679
driving for an hour, I wound up exactly where I was.

953
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.039
I don't know how that happened.

954
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:18.280
Yeah, absolutely so.

955
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.880
Then I drove another hour and a half, two hours,

956
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.800
and we weren't there anymore. And then we got onto

957
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.400
some road we recognized and that was it.

958
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.480
Oh my goodness, dude.

959
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.800
But how let me ask you this, Jeremiah. And because

960
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.199
I know you've interviewed a lot of people, you've heard

961
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.440
a lot of stories, I've never heard or read of

962
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.159
an encounter where bigfoot make that kind of sounds like

963
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.639
this kind of like monkey monkey esque howler thing. I

964
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.400
know they've screamed at people, but it seemed rare, doesn't

965
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:53.519
it that they scream at you.

966
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.480
It happens, to be honest, it did happen.

967
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.239
It happened to me in at the William At National

968
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.400
Forest two summers ago. It is kind of rare, the

969
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:07.760
whole howler monkey. I've heard that from witnesses, not so

970
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.119
much on the show, and it's I don't hear it

971
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.360
a lot, but that is it's a good it's a

972
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.159
good example of what it can of what it can

973
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:16.599
sound like.

974
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.960
Absolutely yeah, yeah.

975
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.280
I mean it had the depth and the power of

976
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.920
what people described like a lion or something like. It

977
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.400
has the kind of guttural has a quick bit like

978
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.760
a lot of times it'll be like a longer. The

979
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.920
longer ones you hear this, more they go. But this

980
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.480
was totally different. This was very more primate esque. It

981
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:45.360
was just, you know, I had that raspy is a

982
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.239
deep guttural to a raspy end, and it was really loud.

983
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:54.400
It was super loud. So I felt like this was

984
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.800
a warning for us, a clear warning, you don't want

985
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.039
you here. Get out. I'm thinking of outleft past, and

986
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.440
I'm like, we might get murdered. We won't survive that.

987
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.480
I'm definitely not mining, I'm definitely not sleeping. I don't

988
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.400
have bigfoot equipment to cast or record them. I don't

989
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.360
have Ford looking in for red equipment. I wasn't ready

990
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.000
for anything. I wasn't ready to mine. I wasn't ready

991
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.039
for bigfoot. I wasn't ready to sleep there. So it

992
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.679
was like, we just have to leave for our lives.

993
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.400
That's what we did. But you know what, so sometime

994
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:27.159
after my encounter, it was not long, it must have

995
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:31.559
been only a matter of weeks, a couple close prospector

996
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.039
actually was a close friend of mine. He was he

997
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.920
bought and sold, claims he still does it. He told

998
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.880
me a story. Gosh, I keep revealing the location more

999
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.440
and more. It's all good whatever. I just hope that

1000
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.960
they have respect for Bigfoot and don't shoot it for

1001
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.400
if they do find this. I just hope that people

1002
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.159
recognize that they are dangerous. There's tons of them. If

1003
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.679
you do shoot one, there's still several there to back

1004
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.159
them up. You're probably not going to escape with your life,

1005
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.599
and if you do, your god forsaken murder and everyone's

1006
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:03.800
gonna hate you. Who knows that bigfoot's real because you've

1007
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.599
shot essentially a person. Just keep that in mind. But

1008
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.960
I want people to know that before I get into this.

1009
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:14.440
So other people had encounters in the same area. It was.

1010
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.119
This guy tells me a story. I hadn't even told

1011
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:17.840
him my story, and he goes, yeah, I sent these

1012
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:20.679
guys to look at a claim in this canyon and

1013
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:24.400
they had to leave because something was like screaming at

1014
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.960
him and throwing stuff at him. And he says, they

1015
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:29.199
think it's Bigfoot, and he laughed it off. All of

1016
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.480
those crazy guys, Oh my gosh. And I'm like, I

1017
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:34.400
didn't tell him anything, but I'm like, wow, I was

1018
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.440
in the same canyon. I had the same thing happened

1019
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:44.039
to me, And I believe there are historic encounters in

1020
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:48.199
the area. In BFRORO database, there's a couple and these

1021
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:53.480
are and gosh it's and then there was. So you

1022
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.480
have a history of encounters going back to the eighteen hundreds,

1023
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:58.840
and then you have my encounter, and then you have

1024
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:02.840
people right after me who encounters and they're all intimidating

1025
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.239
encounters for me. That says, obviously they want you out,

1026
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.639
but they want you out for a reason. You're intruding

1027
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.760
on their resources. You're in their backyard, you're in their

1028
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.960
living room. It's where they hunt, they eat their food,

1029
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:18.079
they recreate whatever. That area did have encounters after me

1030
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:21.960
as well. In fact, one of the encounters it was, Yeah,

1031
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.400
this guy hurt himself trying to run away from the Bigfoot.

1032
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:25.960
He like broke his ankle or something.

1033
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.159
Oh man, wow, yeah.

1034
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:32.800
And get this. After my first encounter in Oregon, where

1035
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.119
the boom outside my attach, I told two prospect her

1036
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.159
friends of mine, my friend Eric and my friend Sam,

1037
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.320
God bless him Sam, and they laughed at me. We're

1038
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:43.440
about to go on some hike to go get gold

1039
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:47.239
deep in some canyon in Plaster County, California. We went

1040
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.360
to this place all the time together, and so I

1041
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:51.039
told him about the encounter. I think is at the

1042
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.760
end of the day and they go, oh, you're still

1043
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.239
full of crap. Bigfoot's not real. Bigfoot's not real. And

1044
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:57.920
I'm like, all right, fine, I don't care what you

1045
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.599
guys think, but just promise me that if you guys

1046
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.800
have an encounter, you give me a call. And guess what,

1047
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.559
less than three months later, I got that call. And

1048
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.440
I'm jealous because but I'm happy it happened to them

1049
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.000
because they were so skeptical of me. They were hiking

1050
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.079
out of this canyon that we had been to, all

1051
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.280
of us several times. We were going there just about

1052
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.239
every week, and they were hiking out of the area.

1053
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:25.039
The sun's going down. There's this trail and there's a

1054
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.119
on one side is a cliff like this steep, and

1055
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:31.679
it's just full of thick manzanita. And then there's a

1056
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:35.719
little trail and then there's a thick full of manzanita

1057
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.760
so thick you're not going a foot into that thing.

1058
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.679
So it's impossibly steep on both sides, way too thick

1059
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.719
with manzanita on both sides, And these guys are hiking

1060
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.960
out of there, and all of a sudden, a nine

1061
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.199
foot ape man walks right in front of him and

1062
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.559
crossing the trail and just it just goes up the

1063
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.039
super impossibly steep just pops up. It takes like a

1064
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:01.519
step across the road. It takes another step, and it

1065
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.039
disappears in the manzanita. And they saw it clear as day,

1066
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:06.599
maybe three hundred feet in front of him, and they

1067
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.119
were so scared because they had to pass where it

1068
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.400
was and where it went into was like the thickest

1069
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.199
part of the forest too, And it was just so

1070
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.039
thick with manzanita. We're talking like as big as manzanita

1071
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.360
can get, as thick as they can get. You can't

1072
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.559
see into it. I mean, that stuff is so sharp

1073
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:26.280
it'll cut you open. So they saw a big foot,

1074
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.000
and he didn't want to say you're right. I didn't

1075
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.280
need to hear it. I knew I was right because

1076
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:33.400
I was just happy he saw it and he knew

1077
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:35.639
something was up. And keep in mind, me and this

1078
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:38.239
guy had seen something up on a hillside, shaking a bush,

1079
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.519
a figure. And even then I wasn't saying, oh it

1080
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.360
was bigfoot. It was bigfoot. It takes a lot for

1081
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.840
me to say for sure, that's bigfoot. So those guys

1082
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.159
saw it. But also a friend from Oregon who was

1083
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:53.440
a prospector. We'd been talking regularly and this guy grew

1084
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.159
up in Oregon, southern Oregon, and I talked to him

1085
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.480
and we're talking about prospecting. I said, man, I had

1086
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.719
this bigfoot encounter. And he goes, yeah, I'm not going

1087
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.960
to say it's not real, but because most my friends

1088
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.119
have had encounters, but it's probably real, I don't know.

1089
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.480
And I said, you know what, just tell me when

1090
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:11.639
you have an encounter, because I believe you will, because

1091
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.519
you're a prospector in southern Oregon. Just give me a call,

1092
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:18.559
could you. And he goes, yeah, sure. Guess what. A

1093
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:21.400
couple months later, I got that call and he goes, bro.

1094
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.920
He goes, bro, you're right, he's real. He walked right

1095
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:26.639
in front of my car in the middle of the day.

1096
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.599
He's driving on some forest road or something, and right

1097
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.079
across in front of his car just and he was

1098
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.519
looking at it for ten seconds. He's just so in shock,

1099
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.639
but he's just watches the stade and he's going through

1100
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.239
the trees and he's like, yeah, dude, I saw a bigfoot.

1101
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:48.280
I'm like happy for them. But I will say another

1102
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.440
reason why I didn't share these encounters is because I

1103
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.800
felt like they weren't good enough. I felt like I

1104
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.800
didn't have class A. And I feel like there's definitely

1105
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.320
huge emphasis on class A, and some people don't want

1106
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:02.920
to hear from you if you have had a Class B.

1107
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.639
They're like, eh, we don't care. We put more emphasis

1108
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.880
on what we see. I felt it with three senses.

1109
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:12.599
Someone who just saw had one sense. I heard it.

1110
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.159
I felt it, okay, maybe just two senses, okay, because

1111
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.360
I felt it go through my body and I've heard

1112
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.840
its power from its voice. I've heard the power of

1113
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.719
its footsteps. But and yeah, I may have seen one,

1114
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.440
but it wasn't like clear. So this is another reason

1115
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.599
why I haven't shared it till now, is because I'm like,

1116
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.880
I'm maybe a little ashamed or something like you get

1117
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.079
all these people with class a's and I'm like, I

1118
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.199
didn't have a Class A, but I felt like I

1119
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.199
had good class B encounters that were totally legitimate.

1120
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.800
Yeah, there's a lot of people in the community that'll

1121
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.800
be like, oh, I didn't say anything, man. I know

1122
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.440
some shows that are like, it's only class a's, but see,

1123
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.679
the thing is like I do this show so that

1124
00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:00.760
people have been infected, even if they just heard something.

1125
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.679
And a lot of times people just need a place

1126
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:07.119
to share what they've experienced to people that aren't going

1127
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.599
to make fun of them. And that's why I do

1128
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.239
this show. But Eric, would you ever want to get

1129
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.800
to the point where you would have a visual sighting?

1130
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:17.639
Have you had that discuss as?

1131
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:22.320
Absolutely? I think I've gone back and forth about dedicating

1132
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.639
myself to that, and I'm finally at the point where

1133
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:26.239
I say, you know what, I'm ready to do that.

1134
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:30.280
I'm ready to postpone all my gold stuff full and

1135
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.039
focus full time on getting my class as. So that

1136
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:36.280
way I can tell people I've heard him, I felt him,

1137
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.559
and I've seen him. But for all the class as

1138
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.320
I haven't had, my people I know have had. And

1139
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:48.360
it's just crazy. It's just there's so many stories of

1140
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:51.679
other people I know. There's my two friends, you don't

1141
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.239
believe me. There's the organ guy. And then check this out.

1142
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.119
This area along the American River, very remote area. A

1143
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:04.199
prospector from him. We were talking regularly and he had

1144
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.760
just gotten onto really good gold. He had just found

1145
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.760
a ten gram nugget with his buddy. He's beautiful and

1146
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.119
they just found the nugget and all of a sudden,

1147
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.800
something up in the woods above them on the hillside

1148
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:20.400
starts screaming and throwing trees down at him, and I

1149
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.480
believe he had the visual of a large figure and

1150
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:28.280
it was throwing giant logs down in their direction. And

1151
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:32.800
they never went back ever, And this was the best

1152
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.280
goal they found. I'm telling you about the best gold

1153
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.599
I ever found, and I haven't been back, and this

1154
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:41.039
is life changing gold. I'm terrified to go back, Like

1155
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:43.760
they warned me, They're gonna kill me if I go back.

1156
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:45.679
They warned me once, like, why would I go back?

1157
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.360
Gold's not worth your life. Granted, I thought, like I

1158
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.920
could go back and get evidence, and I would do that,

1159
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.159
but it's got to be the right person. I don't

1160
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.639
have that right person. I'll go back with a bigfooter

1161
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:00.599
who's yeah, I love and respect bigfoot. If they are aggressive,

1162
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:03.719
leave but just the same kind of mindset that I'm

1163
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:05.880
going to have going into it. But at the same

1164
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.199
time I go, I'll not to just go somewhere and

1165
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.960
start fresh. I know there's plenty of bigfoot around here,

1166
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.960
and I know there are because I have so many

1167
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.599
more encounters that i'ven't been told including the friend of

1168
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:23.079
a friend. He's a hiker explorer somewhere. He actually really

1169
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.559
didn't want to give away the location, so I'll respect him.

1170
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.599
Let's just say it's near Lake Tahoe. It's very close

1171
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.960
to Lake Talk. He was hiking on along the ridges

1172
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.880
of Lake Tahoe and he came across a cave, and

1173
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.159
out of the cave came a bigfoot. It walked right

1174
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.840
out and he saw things like things hanging up like deer,

1175
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.719
like pieces of deer meat and stuff like that or something.

1176
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:50.800
And he saw a bigfoot and it chased him out

1177
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:55.400
of there. And he doesn't like talking about it, doesn't

1178
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.800
like revealing details because he's actually and you'll see this

1179
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:00.840
a lot, which I'm sure you've seen a lot. It's

1180
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:03.840
really funny as people are really protective about the bigfoot.

1181
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.079
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1182
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:09.639
During yeah, during my road trip, my Bigfoot road trip,

1183
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.639
I stopped at Happy Camp, total totally out of the way,

1184
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:15.360
but it's such a great place to go. And so

1185
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.199
I interviewed the people at the person who owns the

1186
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:20.000
general store. They collect all the encounters. They're like you,

1187
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:24.559
and so she this person had all these encounters and

1188
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.639
from people in the area, and there were people there

1189
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:31.480
who were feeding the bigfoot, leaving them apples and having

1190
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.960
some form of interaction. It wasn't like here's an apple,

1191
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.440
they hand it. It's yeah, they leave it hanging from

1192
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.760
a tree and they see them come and get it

1193
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.480
at night. And these people, some of them have Bigfoot

1194
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:46.039
sleeping in their property, like they see him sleeping there.

1195
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.719
And these are just some chill whatever, elderly people just

1196
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.559
like feeding the birds. And they're like they respect and

1197
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:54.880
love the bigfoot so much that they don't want to

1198
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:56.960
go on camera. They don't want to get interviewed, and

1199
01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.400
they won't tell you where they live. And so I

1200
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.719
quickly earn that, and I've experienced that for myself because

1201
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.360
I have a reverence for bigfoot and they're pretty good

1202
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.519
at taking care of themselves. But I know that there

1203
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.199
are people, malicious people who could potentially kill them or

1204
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.800
harm them. And it always bugs me when I hear

1205
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.119
people shooting them. I always hate hearing that because I

1206
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:20.280
feel like it doesn't do any good. Just all you

1207
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.599
did is ruin the life of this thing that don't

1208
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.679
want you there. It's like you break into my living

1209
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.280
room and then you shoot me. But I'm like, I

1210
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.440
get out of my house. I have found that to

1211
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:34.159
be the case. And then family, friends and people I've

1212
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.519
met who have had encounters and they didn't even know

1213
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:40.440
they had encounters. For example, my dad was telling me like, oh,

1214
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:42.679
it's not real, So I know, why are you doing this?

1215
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:44.920
Why A You're wasting your time? And I'm like, Dad,

1216
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.000
I bet you've had an encounter and you don't even

1217
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:49.440
know it. For example, maybe you're in the woods one

1218
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:51.800
time and you just heard some sound or a rock

1219
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:54.920
or something. I'm like, Dad, was there any time in

1220
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:56.960
the woods ever in your life where you heard something

1221
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:58.960
that you couldn't put your finger on? And I just

1222
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:02.400
didn't waited and I saw him and he's thinking, and

1223
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:03.960
then all of a sudden, he started to get teary

1224
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:06.719
eyed and he started to cry. And he does not cry.

1225
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.360
I never see my dad cry. And he starts to cry,

1226
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.039
and he goes and he tells me a story I

1227
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.360
only heard that one time. I somehow got him into it.

1228
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:18.199
He recalled something from when he was five years old.

1229
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.280
He was in the woods with his father Idaho. I

1230
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.440
think it was deep woods and they're hunting. His father

1231
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:29.320
was asleep snoring, really loudly, and he's there, wide awake

1232
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:34.760
and he hears this really loud, terrifying scream. So I

1233
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.840
play for my dad sounds recordings of Bigfoot and he

1234
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:40.400
just he says, turned that off. I don't want to

1235
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.920
hear it, and he gets so emotional. I knew I

1236
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.400
hit a nerve. It was one of those recordings I

1237
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.280
forget the name of it. It was like the Ohio

1238
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:53.039
one where it's like sure because what he explained was

1239
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:58.079
this like loud guttural projecting, long sustained roar, which is

1240
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:02.079
really indicative of I think this intimidation roar that they have,

1241
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.280
which they have a recording of, And I just hit

1242
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:08.559
the nail on the head and he so triggered. And

1243
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:10.800
to this day I haven't heard this story again, but

1244
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.599
I believe my dad had a big Foot encounter. Didn't

1245
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.119
even know it. It was deep in his brain. And

1246
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:19.840
I picked that up. And the better one I heard

1247
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:23.000
was a girl locally working at grocery outlet. This high

1248
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.559
school girl, it's sixteen or something, grew up in this

1249
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:29.360
place I live now a Dayton, Nevada, and she and

1250
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:31.079
I'm talking to her. I don't know how it got

1251
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:32.639
out I'm like, yeah, I'm like going out in the

1252
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:35.199
woods doing crazy stuff, looking for paranormal stuff or something.

1253
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:36.960
I don't know how it came up, but she's like, yeah,

1254
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.280
I was at the cemetery last week with my friends

1255
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:41.760
and we were like hanging out and it was dark,

1256
01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:43.920
and something was like chasing us out of there, and

1257
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:48.400
I'm like interesting, So I started asking questions. Could you

1258
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:51.559
see this outline? She goes, yeah, I saw a really

1259
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.679
dark outline. I'm like, there at a cemetery, so I'm

1260
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:58.480
thinking it was a shadow person. Let's rule out shadow person. Okay,

1261
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.559
when it chased out you, did you hear it stomping?

1262
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:08.440
Did you hear its footfall? She goes yes, ding ding, Okay,

1263
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:12.239
this thing was like nine feet tall, very big, loud footfall,

1264
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:16.320
and right behind her was a huge mountain full of caves.

1265
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.400
That mountain is right behind me. It's a mountain with

1266
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:24.360
man made caves and natural caves. The place is so rugged.

1267
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:27.599
People who try to go up there in a jeep clip.

1268
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:29.840
I know a guy who had to flip too jeep

1269
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:31.599
going this is how rugged this mountain is. This is

1270
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.960
almost it's almost impossible to get And I can't wait

1271
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.280
to do some investigations there and look for caves. But

1272
01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:40.519
I believe that this girl had an encounter with a

1273
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.679
bigfoot and she didn't even know it.

1274
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:45.119
My goodness.

1275
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.119
So yeah, you literally have places you can go to

1276
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:49.119
in your backyard.

1277
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:50.920
Yeah.

1278
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.639
Yeah. In fact, this claim I was looking at buying

1279
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.840
a couple of years ago. The guy who is selling

1280
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.320
the claim was looking at claims in the same area,

1281
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:02.960
and it was the middle of the day. He was

1282
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.760
with his partner and the guy selling the claims, and

1283
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:07.760
they're in the edge of the woods in Plumus County,

1284
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:10.920
middle of the day, a little clearing area where people

1285
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:14.719
are mining, and they're talking about the claim and the ground,

1286
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.199
and all of a sudden, something starts screaming at him

1287
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.239
from the woods, and they're so scared they pack up

1288
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:22.840
and they get out of there, and they don't get

1289
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:28.400
the claim. And so literally every single person I know

1290
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.679
who's been looking for gold for a period of time

1291
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.360
in the deep woods has had an encounter. It's those

1292
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.239
who have had an encounter and those who have not

1293
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:38.639
yet had an encounter. And usually they don't have it

1294
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.519
because they're unlucky or they just they're in the wrong places.

1295
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:46.280
They're doing the wrong things. They're not everywhere. You just

1296
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:49.119
you got to be in the right place the right time.

1297
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.679
But if you spend enough time in the deep woods,

1298
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.719
like they'll come find you. It's just a matter of time.

1299
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.840
Like we were saying earlier, the gold and the Bigfoot,

1300
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.960
they're in the same place. Yeah, the untouched gold is

1301
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.239
in remote canyons where you can't get cars, and those

1302
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.000
are the same places where Bigfoot live. Like remote places

1303
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.960
of a Feather River canyon, for example, there's a lot

1304
01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:14.039
of encounters out there. It's along the PCT, the heavily

1305
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:18.159
forested most remote section of the Feather River. They're all

1306
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.119
over the place. I actually believe they're way more extensive

1307
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:26.280
than we think. Like someone I know has seen the

1308
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.920
bones of the red giants at the Lovelock Museum decades ago.

1309
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:36.519
Now they since removed those bones from exhibit exactly, And

1310
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:40.440
someone has reported seeing what appears to be a red

1311
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.719
giant from the cave. That the Indians had a battle

1312
01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:46.320
with these if I'm sure you're aware of this. The

1313
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.639
natives in the area and the apes what are they called,

1314
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:52.480
the red giants were abducting the Indians and they had

1315
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:54.559
what they called the war one of the many wars

1316
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:58.800
between Bigfoot and natives throughout the US. So they tried

1317
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.880
to burn, smoke them out, burnt them down. And if

1318
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.440
you look at the evidence that they have giant like tools,

1319
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:06.960
huge like flip flops and stuff like I don't know

1320
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:10.400
if they're flip flops, but woven braided like sandals that

1321
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.360
are like huge. So there's a lot of evidence to

1322
01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:15.760
back this up. There were bones, I believe there still

1323
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.439
may be bones associated with those red giants from the cave.

1324
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:21.399
They went in there and they found bones. But now

1325
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.199
the bones aren't on display anymore in Lovelock for some reason.

1326
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:26.720
They're just that place doesn't display them.

1327
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.319
I've heard that as well. It's very strange my would

1328
01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:30.720
those be taken away?

1329
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:31.279
Who knows?

1330
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:34.600
Maybe someone has an idea, but may eric you're really

1331
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:38.920
going after it. I cannot even imagine where things are

1332
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:42.159
gonna take you next. It sounds like pretty close to

1333
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:44.000
where you're at, but you are going to be going

1334
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:45.159
after it.

1335
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:47.199
It's so amazing.

1336
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:51.680
You are going to put the gold, the gold digging

1337
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:56.880
on hold until you get what you're looking for. Regarding Bigfoot,

1338
01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:57.640
that is cool.

1339
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.439
The truth is that when I look I get these

1340
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.720
two things. Going to get rich on gold, which I've done.

1341
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.399
I did eventually succeed in getting spectacular gold, just not there.

1342
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.720
I see gold as a selfish activity because it's I'm

1343
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:13.720
getting gold for me. Oh yeah, you can watch me

1344
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.640
or whatever. But that's still a selfish thing. But going

1345
01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:19.960
out there to seek the truth that betters mankind, the

1346
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:23.920
knowledge of us, our existence and this unknown ape primate

1347
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.199
of the woods, that is some much more of a

1348
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.199
noble quest, and to me it's one of the most

1349
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.119
fascinating things in the world. So do you believe Bigfoot's

1350
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:32.520
more or less always going to be there? And the

1351
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.479
gold will too. But for me, I have unfinished business.

1352
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:38.600
And now I think I've been reawakened because I started

1353
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:45.239
reading this book by Meldrum. And for people who haven't

1354
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:49.399
read this, Meldrum is too scientific to say it, but

1355
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.119
this is proof of Bigfoot. If you know nothing about

1356
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.880
Bigfoot and you read this book, it has so many

1357
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:59.039
layers of evidence and proof that Bigfoot is real, undeniable,

1358
01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:03.079
unhoaxable evidence. Granted, I was pretty much aware of a

1359
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.359
lot of stuff in there, but there's so much in

1360
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:09.239
there I was not aware of. Even more layers of credibility,

1361
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:14.840
of science, of analyzes of these events, situations, tracks. People

1362
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:18.399
don't even realize Patterson Gimlin had tracks associated with it too.

1363
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:22.039
So even if you could do the impossible and recreate

1364
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:24.760
this highly sophisticated suit, which we still don't have the

1365
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:29.920
technology to create, you still can't create the casts. Nobody

1366
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.960
can create a cast. No one that we don't have

1367
01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.680
the ability to replicate the detail of these casts. I

1368
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:38.920
love that book. It stirred it back in me, and

1369
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:40.560
that's where I'm talking to you again. I'm like, you

1370
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.079
know what I got to finish when I started. I

1371
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:44.920
don't know if there's an end to this quest, but

1372
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:50.439
certainly seeing a bigfoot, I'm tired of people downplaying my encounter.

1373
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.600
If I were to tell someone, I know they're going

1374
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:55.479
to downplay it because did you see it, dude? I

1375
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.640
guarantee if anyone was with me, they would know that

1376
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:03.119
it very least it was something they couldn't explain, but

1377
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:06.119
most likely they would attribute it to a bigfoot too,

1378
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:09.880
because it's easy to just be on the armchair quarterback.

1379
01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:13.520
That's not bigfoot, right exactly? You being the tent with

1380
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.800
me and you feel this power going through your body,

1381
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.760
you hear, the screams projecting at you, the speed, the sounds,

1382
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:24.359
the shaking, like all these things combined, like you can't

1383
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:28.000
replicate this. It's real. Bigfoot is real, and this is real.

1384
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.760
So I know I have to see one, and I

1385
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:33.720
actually believe it's not hard to see one too. I

1386
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.640
believe there's a lot of them out there. They have

1387
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:37.760
to most of the time. They have to want you

1388
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.199
to see them. From what it seems, they usually let you.

1389
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.960
Sometimes they get caught off guard. Let me say another thing.

1390
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.079
I was on this reality show Frozen Gold and we

1391
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:51.239
were more or less all prospect or some of us

1392
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.000
not so much. But we had all spent our lives

1393
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:58.920
in deep remote locations. And I believe there's one person

1394
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.000
I didn't ask about it. Everybody, but one person I

1395
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:08.439
know had Bigfoot encounters and yow, and during the whole

1396
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.680
side thing that when we were in Greenland, we had

1397
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:16.800
so many other paranormal encounters. It was crazy. So literally,

1398
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:20.159
this one person was in Oregon, lived in Oregon when

1399
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:23.720
she grew up, and she saw Bigfoot twice. And then

1400
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:27.159
these twins on the show, they had an encounter and

1401
01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:28.960
they didn't know it. I had to explain to them

1402
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:32.119
that they did because they were going into this location.

1403
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.560
And then they smelled like an on off switch of trash.

1404
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.880
It was like boom, all of a sudden, wet dog, trash,

1405
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:41.880
the same thing. Everyone says, Oh, it smelled like a

1406
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.680
wet dog and smelled really pungent, and they heard these

1407
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:47.279
like weird whistles and stuff. And I'm like, you got

1408
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:49.479
a big Foot encounter. You didn't even know it, but

1409
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:53.319
you had an encounter that's exactly totally exemplary of what

1410
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.800
bigfoot do. They have this musk land, they can turn

1411
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.840
it off like a switch, and that's what they had

1412
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.800
happened where it was like they and these people were

1413
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:06.840
super sensitive, like they've had so many paranormal encounters, and

1414
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:09.279
I think these people lend themselves to these types of

1415
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:14.119
encounters too, And so they had the sensation and then

1416
01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:16.880
there's the trash smell, and they had the whistles. And

1417
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:19.000
then this other guy almost hit one with his car.

1418
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:23.640
Oh trip, Yeah, the River Lapp guy, Christian. That dude

1419
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.960
was I don't know where he was driving. He lives

1420
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.680
up and he lives in way northern California, like around

1421
01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:30.000
Weed or something like that.

1422
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:30.840
Oh, Shasta.

1423
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.159
Yeah, yeah, somewhere around there, I think, and he says

1424
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:35.520
he almost hit one with his car.

1425
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:39.319
I don't. Yeah, absolutely in that area. Yeah.

1426
01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:44.039
So literally everybody who spends their time in the woods prospecting,

1427
01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.439
they get encounters. It's just such a perfect combination to

1428
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:48.520
have a big foot encounter.

1429
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:52.520
Eric, I love it. This is an incredible conversation. Has

1430
01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:56.279
really opened my eyes even more so to the world

1431
01:13:56.399 --> 01:14:00.359
of prospecting in bigfoot. Thank you for sharing your outs

1432
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:01.720
and your stories.

1433
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:02.399
On the show.

1434
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.079
Please keep us up to date with your quest to

1435
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:09.119
get more information and to have that visual in the future.

1436
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:12.439
And can you share a little bit about how people

1437
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.800
can You've got the channel that just started up, so

1438
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:19.079
people can check that out, and you had mentioned that earlier.

1439
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:21.319
I'm trying to this is more of a lifestyle channel

1440
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.760
I've got. I've sorted like twelve channels over the past

1441
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:27.039
fifteen years and just keep trying different stuff. And it's

1442
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:28.800
not a big foot channel. I don't know if I

1443
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:30.640
want to commit to a big foot channel. This is

1444
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:34.159
an adventure channel. I go out. I have adventures of

1445
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:39.119
all sorts, including gold, bigfoot, or just cool animal encounters,

1446
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.920
swimming with sharks, hanging out with grizzly bears or rattlesnakes.

1447
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.199
So it's not a big Foot channel, but I do

1448
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.560
plan it on having a percentage of Bigfoot content ongoing.

1449
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:50.960
I do feel like at this point I want to

1450
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:53.239
just put it out there and say, look, this is

1451
01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:56.359
why Bigfoot's real. Here's my encounters. But it's not a

1452
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:59.159
big Foot channel, so people can hit me up if

1453
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:01.920
they want. But and I will be doing Bigfoot content

1454
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.079
and I'm definitely gonna hit you up when I see.

1455
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:07.680
One yet call, I'll say it right back to you.

1456
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:10.560
I think the best story ever of Bigfoot, personally, I

1457
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.880
think is of a prospector, and that's Albert Oustman.

1458
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.840
Oh sure, yeah, classic, that's.

1459
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.760
The best story there is. And the information he gave

1460
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:22.000
in there. People not know how many details he gave

1461
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:27.000
that predated modern primatology, that was then corroborated by Jane

1462
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.000
Goodall's findings with the chips, things like the size of

1463
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:35.000
their penis and what it looked like. And people are oh,

1464
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:39.000
big Bigfoot, big dick. No, Bigfoot has a very small penis,

1465
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:40.880
just like the gorillas. Because if you had a large

1466
01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.159
penis and huge swinging ball, it's gonna get caught in

1467
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:46.439
those mans Anita, so they have a big time any

1468
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:50.000
I believe, and he saw things like that. He details

1469
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:53.239
smell the smell of the breath like honey, and then

1470
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.279
there's some signs behind that as well. But Albert Osman,

1471
01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.159
that was real. He was a prospector carried off in

1472
01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:02.640
the night Innesle. People who haven't seen that encounter, they

1473
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.119
got to look that up. I think he even attested

1474
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:07.000
to it on his deathbed, as I recall.

1475
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:11.159
Yeah, as signed AffA David as well. Yeah, it's a classic.

1476
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.319
You can read about it. Bigfoot Encounters dot Com has

1477
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:15.640
it on there. You can find it in a few

1478
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:19.000
books too. Yeah, it's a very good one. But Eric Man,

1479
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.680
thank you so much for hanging out. I'll have I'll

1480
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:24.560
have the link to the channel your channel in the

1481
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:26.880
show notes for this episode, so people can check that

1482
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:29.920
out if they want. And yeah, keep us in the loop.

1483
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.560
And thank you so much for coming on today.

1484
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.640
Man, Hey, I appreciate what you're doing. Jeremiah, thank you

1485
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:36.600
for having me on here. I appreciate it.

1486
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.199
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1487
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.479
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1488
01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:48.239
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1489
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:51.119
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1490
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:54.439
a National Park ranger or forestreet worker who's been told

1491
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:57.880
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1492
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.880
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1493
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.880
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1494
01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.800
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1495
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.359
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1496
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:15.000
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

1497
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.720
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field

1498
01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:21.880
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1499
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:25.359
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1500
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:29.279
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1501
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.680
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1502
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.680
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1503
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:39.199
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1504
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.000
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1505
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:46.680
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1506
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:51.199
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1507
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.560
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1508
01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:59.399
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1509
01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:05.199
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1510
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:09.600
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1511
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:12.479
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1512
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:14.960
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1513
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:18.159
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1514
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:21.039
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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1532
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1533
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:19.840
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

1534
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And see you in the woods.