Nov. 21, 2025

Researcher Uncovers Bigfoot Evidence in Tennessee’s Cumberland Plateau That Changes Everything!

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Season 1

Dive deep into the mysterious world of the Southern Cumberland Plateau with Bigfoot researcher and author of Bear Mountain Bigfoot, Randy Hutchings. In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron explores unheard encounters, terrifying attacks, and mind-bending evidence that redefine what we know about Bigfoot in Tennessee.

From a 1960s horseback attack at Hills Creek, to lost items mysteriously “returned” on White Buffalo Mountain, and chilling juvenile Sasquatch sightings, Randy shares decades of research and personal field reports from one of America’s most active cryptid hotspots.

Resources:

Randy’s first episode on Bigfoot Society:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkUcr8dhZgE

Bear Mountain Bigfoot: The Case for Sasquatch on the Southern Cumberland Plateau:

Buy here - https://amzn.to/4oGc4Wu (Amazon Affiliate link helps support the podcast

Tennessee Wildman and Cryptid Con info - https://bit.ly/47VAwvO

Get a ticket to the 2026 Tennessee Cryptid Campout - https://bit.ly/43nKiW7

Contact Randy here - tennessquatch@gmail.com


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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to mister Randy Hutchings again.

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It's been a few years Randy since we last talked,

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but welcome back to the show. How are you?

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Thanks for having me back?

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Man Man, I was looking it up and I think

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it was way back in episode number three fifty three,

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which was more than two years ago, and a lot

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has happened on the podcast since then. And just a

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few words about yourself, Randy. You know you're the organizer

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of the Tennessee wild Man Con. Yes, sir, awesome. We

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were talking before we started recording that's in its fourth

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year already. We'll probably be talking about that later on

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the show, and also we'll be talking a little bit

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about a new event you've got coming out in April

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of next year, twenty twenty six, so we'll chat about

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that as well. But the main reason that I wanted

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you on the show today is to talk about your

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new book and just talk about Bigfoot down there in Tennessee.

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And the name of that book is Bear Mountain Bigfoot,

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the Case for Sasquatch on the Southern Cumberland Plateau. That's it,

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which is fantastic and I'm a big fan of it.

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Is great. There's not I'm trying to think. I don't

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think there's many books about Bigfoot for that part of Tennessee.

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Yours might be the only one.

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I don't think there are besides this one, not the

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specific region at least.

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And it's good. So you know, in case people haven't

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they haven't listened to the first episode, which I would

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probably recommend people definitely go check that out as well

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for the new For the new ones that are just

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meeting you for the first time, was there a certain

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incident that really introduced you and pushed you over the

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edge when it comes to this big foot stuff, so

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you go to the not just one hundred percent, but

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one hundred and ten percent. Yeah, this is real.

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Oh yeah, Yeah.

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The first encounter I ever happened, I ever had back

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in nineteen ninety seven, we had me and my cousin

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were at a remote abandoned rock corry and we had

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something vocalized from on top of the cliffs surrounding this

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lake we were at making this moo moo sort of sound,

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and we thought it was a high hunter or something,

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you know, maybe missing with us at the time, and

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kind of made it jokingly, tried to make the make

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the sound back at it, and for our our time

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doing this, we saw a three hundred plus pound boulder

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come flying off this cliff and splashing into the lake

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about sixty feet from us. That I didn't see what

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did it? Now to you know, I didn't, I didn't

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see that you know that it was a big foot

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that did it. But after I got on the line

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and did a little check in with the BFROS and

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got interviewed by a researcher there, it kind of just

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the pieces, you know, fit together like you would have

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to one of one thing that happened when during that

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instant incident was my cousin actually asked me, He's like,

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you would have to have thumbs to do that right,

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to throw that rock, And so just the pieces kind

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of just fell together after I talked to that researcher,

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and uh, that would solidify though, you know, yeah, they're

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out there to me watching that that boulder fly like

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I did.

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You've really had some incredible things happened to you over

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the years. And and how how many years have you

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been a researcher in the bigfoot subjects.

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Now going on twenty six?

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I think twenty six, absolutely incredible, And you've been over

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the years. You've been involved in different organizations in the past, correct.

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Yes, yes, several, Yeah.

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And that's everything from is it BFO.

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Tomorrow, GCBRO group called the Blue and Gray. I was

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a founding member of a group that was around for

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about four years called the Sasquatch Research Initiative, several several groups.

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Gotcha, is the GCBRO even around anymore? Because their website

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is offline. I don't know if you notice, I don't know.

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I've not talked to I've not talked to the guys

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down there for about a year over a year.

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Now, so wow, okay, yeah, I can't get through to them.

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So Wayback Machine is still there for us, thankfully, because

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that website's great. What was your motivation and getting this

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book out, Randy?

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Partially, Like you mentioned earlier, there's really I live in

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what I consider to be one of the biggest hotspots

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of Tennessee, but.

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You don't find any.

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Like you look at the the the Bigfoot siding maps

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and you look at the the bf ro O and

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there's just a big vacant spot in my area. Uh,

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just a big vacant spot. And so I was like,

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you know, I felt kind of after the years of

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doing and the research I've done this area and just

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a dozens and dozens of people I've talked to, uh,

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it didn't feel righted, like they weren't getting their stories

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out there.

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Uh.

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So that's really kind of why I decided just to

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go ahead and make it, you know, to write the book,

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because it's it's about this whole region. Uh. I've become

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Southern Cumberland Plateau region.

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Absolutely, and I'm glad you did, because before I read

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the book, you know, I was thinking about our previous

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interview and I was like, I know, stuff has happened

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around here, but then I didn't hear a lot. But

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then I read the book and it's an incredible just

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compilation of all these reports that you've taken over the years.

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And I had no idea about how many other things

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have happened over the years besides what you've experienced. But

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just so that everyone's on the same page, can you

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take a minute to kind of explain what the geographic

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area really is that's called the Southern Cumberland Plateau. What

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area of Tennessee that entails.

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Sure, if you if you look at Tennessee's kind of

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divided up into what they call it three sections, which

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is East, Middle, and West Tennessee's on the border of

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Middle and East Tennessee, you will see topographically this big

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chunk of mountain that just goes from Kentucky all the

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way down to Alabama and part a little sliver of

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northern Georgia. And that whole cross section that sliver down there,

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that mountain is part of the Cumberland Mountains. But that's

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the region there is called the Southern Cumberland Plateau because

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mainly because it's it's kind of flat on the top

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not entirely flat, but it's it's it's got a very

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Once you get up there on a road and stuff,

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you'll you'll see how it's it's very flatten and uh,

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not a lot of hills, not a lot of topography

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up there.

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Absolutely how high up to those mountains get. Elevation wise, I.

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Think the elevation of the plateau is about eighteen hundred feet.

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It's not crazy high. But considering like from the from

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the Tennessee Valley compared to the the plateau there, the

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plateau has winters that are that are very very similar

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to the same kind of winters that the southern Peninsula

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of Michigan has because the elevation where the Tennessee Valley

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has very very mild winters by.

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Comparison, gotcha, is there anything about this area that just

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makes it perfect or really good for to be an

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area where bigfoot encounters would happen.

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There are more caves in this region than any other

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area of North America except for possibly the Northwest. A

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section of the Northwest territories of Canada is believed to

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be have more karst topography than this place. This area does.

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But aside from that, we have over fifteen thousand caves

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in this area of the southern Cumebland Plateau alone. Like,

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we have a five county region that people talk about

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that a lot of spilunkers brag about that there's more

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caves in that five county region than there are in

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the rest of the East Coast combined.

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My goodness, that is just I mean that just it's

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hard to think about. That's that's a lot of caves.

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It's like sweat cheese up here.

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And you think about the stuff that could be hiding

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in those even probably even other things besides Bigfoot, but

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we're sticking to Bigfoot for this. But oh man, I

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don't know if you've ever seen The Descent. Yikes, that's

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oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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My son, my oldest son, the first time he ever

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went went caving. The night before, he said, can we

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watch a caving movie? So I turned on The Descent

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and let him watch that, which probably was not a

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good idea because we got to the cave and he

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was just like, what was that?

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What was that? What was that? Not good?

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Yeah, that's a great movie, though it's wild. It's a wild,

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wild one.

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Yeah.

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It freaked me out and it was in the daytime.

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Is there an account that you were able to share

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in Bear Mountain Bigfoot that you're like, I'm so glad

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this is able to finally get out there in the

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open and that the rest of the world is aware.

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Were there any highlights that you were able to share

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that really come to mind?

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One that I really really like, I felt privileged to

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have heard was this. There's an elderly gentleman named mister McBride,

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and I got to visit with him. He he's lived

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up on the on the Plateau's entire life. He was

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eighty two at the time that I took the tale

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from him, and he basically explained how his uncle back

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in the twenties, for over a week, was trailed by

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a female bigfoot in the woods, and that at one

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point this bigfoot actually motioned, you know, put its arm

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out and motion, you know, the kind of the the

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come to me kind of motion. And his uncle, he

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was talking about that, his uncle was very, very convinced

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that this this bigfoot was sweet on him. And I

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found that that I don't know, you don't come across

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stuff like that.

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You know, uh, yeah, yeah, It's it's very rare. And

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I was when I read that, I was like, oh man,

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that's that's really interesting. I think I've heard it maybe once.

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Are here several instances of males of male bigfoot trying

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to like mess with females, Yeah, but I've never I

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don't know of any other story off the top of

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my head of a female bigfoot trying to do the

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same to.

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A male exactly. And and that's that's why it was

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is very interesting. Another one that I thought it really

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took me back, uh when I read it was the

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Hills the Hills Creek attack.

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Yes, yeah, that happened back in the sixties.

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And so yeah, go ahead.

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Okay, So that was there was We talked to the

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nephew of the of the lady that this happened to

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uh in the story in the story, and basically there

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was It was this uh gentleman's aunt, his uncle, and

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the uncle's soon to be wife. It was a girlfriend

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at the town. But they were riding horses in the

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Hills Creek area of Tennessee above what's called Hill's Creek Spring.

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It's a big, huge spring puts out just hundreds of

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thousands of gallons of water a day. And they were

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they were they were trekking on horses and the trails

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above this this uh spring area, And as they were

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going up this hill, they basically said that this large

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monkey like thing comes jumping out of a tree above

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uh the ant and lands on her and the horse

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with such force that it takes the horse to the ground,

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and he begins pummeling the lady h with with with

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his fists in this you know, aggressive fashion. And by

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the time they get the horses turned around to see

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what's going on, this thing has jumped up and is

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running off and back up into the woods. And the

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woman had just a mental breakdown from what we were

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you know, told from this instance, like she wouldn't go

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she wouldn't go horse riding anymore, she wouldn't go hiking

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up there where she was very outdoorsy before the she

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wouldn't go open that area at all anymore.

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My goodness, Is this a place that you have investigated

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yourself as well?

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Oh yeah, yeah, big that the Hills Creek area actually

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funnels into a hollow called the Drock Creek Golf area.

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And I personally have have had several instances that happened

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up in Drough Creek Golf.

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Wow, And would you say that this account from the

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sixties of I mean, probably the most aggressive attack that

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I've ever heard on this podcast. I was thinking about

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as I was reading it. I was like, I've never

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seen anything that even comes close to this. Is that

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an outlier for this area or have you ever or

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have you heard things that are similar with other aggressive reports.

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I have spoken to several people that have had aggressive

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encounters in Drock Creek Golf in that region, but nothing

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to the degree of actually being attacked to that degree. Now,

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black trees being pushed down while they're camping as like

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kind of they took that a threat, you know, an

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intimidation display, but not not not being directly you know,

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attacked in that matte fashion.

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Now, it's it really is wild stuff on this Cumberland

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Southern Cumberland Plateau area. Do you find that there's patterns

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in the reports that you get from witnesses where you know, okay,

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so this one, here's a white one, here's another white one.

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Do they all look similar or do some of them

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maybe look more ape like and some look more Neanderthal.

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So it's across the board.

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We've we've actually I would say it's across the board.

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From the descriptions we've had, But what are you talking

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about with individuals and correlations. There is an an area

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up there that's about six and a half miles about

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six and a half miles square on the Highway eight.

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We would call that the Sasquatch Highway because of all

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the activity going on up there, but on Highway eight,

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and it seems like all of these houses are sharing

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the same individual that's window peaking. And the reason that

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they we believe it's the same individual is they said

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that they've seen a gentlemanly gray swath of hair that

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comes off of his brow. And this has been like,

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these are people that are miles apart on the highway

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down there, have no idea that their neighbors are are

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describing the same you know, literally the same gray swath

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of hair.

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Yeah, it's crazy.

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That's that's the Atticus Bigfoot, right, yeah, right, yeah. That

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comes up in the book and it's a it's a

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fascinating read. I mean, listeners, you really do need to

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get this book because you know, we're kind of just

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skimming the surface here with a few things, but it

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is very cool. You go into how some of those

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in the vials have had interactions with Atticus, and I

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believe there's involvement of Tibetan singing bowls and all sorts

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of interesting factors in play. It's a great, great read

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a location that and I can't remember if it came

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up the first time, but it came up a few

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times in this book, which I thought was very interesting.

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It's White Buffalo Mountain. Yes, would you what's the weirdest

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thing you've experienced or heard of from White Buffalo Mountain?

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Me personally, and this isn't in the book. The weirdest

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thing I've experienced personally up on that mountain. And I

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this has happened to myself and two other people now individually,

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like as separate times, completely completely separate times. It's like

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we have been gifted lost Atom's back. At one point,

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I used to walk around with a prospecting hammer on

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me at all times. UH to take it because we

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have a lot of fossils in this region and it's

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an easy way to get fossils out of out of

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rock and stuff. I lost my my prospecting hammer up

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on White Buffalo one time, and weeks went by. I'm

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coming down a different part of White Buffalo on a

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different trail. There's my hammer right in the middle of

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the trail. I still to this day have absolutely no

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way of explaining that, you know, was it was a

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big foot that did it? Uh, there's there's you talk

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we talked to earlier about other stuff in caves. There's

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a lot of legends of little people on that specific

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mountain too, So it's like, you know, did something gifted

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back My friend though, had he lost a a survival

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knife on that mountain, and he lost it on top

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of the mountain. We know right the area that he

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lost it, but we couldn't find it. We spent forty

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five minutes at one point one day backtracking trying to

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find this guy's survival knife. It was a gift from

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his sister. And as we're ascending several weeks later, we

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stop on this log that's across the trail, and we're

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going up a different trail. We stop on this log.

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We have about a twenty minute little conversation between us,

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just shooting you know, proverbial, you know, and he looks

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down at his feet and there's his knife sitting at

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his feet, So that that's there's there's weird, weird stuff

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on that mountain, specifically on that mountain, I actually have

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gotten to talk to a Yuki elder named uh mister Ironhouse,

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and mister Ironhouse was telling me that in his people's traditions,

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they're there, they got they got absorbed by the Cherokee Nation,

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basically the yuk nation did. In their traditions. White Buffalo

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Mountain is considered a sacred mountain, and then it's a

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mountain of doorways, as he put it. And when I

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ask him to explain what he meant by doorways, I'm like,

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do you mean all the caves that are on the mountain.

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He's like, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about portals. And

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I'm like okay, and he's like, yeah, there's certain times

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a year doorways will open up on the mountain. And

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I'm like, well, what happens if you go through the doorways?

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And he's like, it depends on the kind of person

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you are and where you end up.

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Oh. Man, So wow, that's a wild place up there.

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That is really intense. Have you ever experienced anything up

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there where like you're you're you know, some people will

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report they're walking along they feel electricity or something out

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of the ordinary. Things change it gets really quiet. Is

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there anything like that ever up there? For you?

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The strangest thing that I've had happen to me on

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a lot Buffalo is I got zapped or what they

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call zapped. And but I'm pretty sure that was you know,

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sas watch behavior that happened. So I'm not sure what

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they do when they zap you, if it's infra sound

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or whatever it is. But but uh, that that zapped me.

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So when is that?

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When it hit me, it felt like all the energy

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came out of my body like just at once, and

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I literally had to sit.

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Down and take a nap on the mountain. Uh.

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The researcher guy was with like was freaked out because

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we were having wood knocks happen around us when this happened. Uh,

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he was like, for forty five minutes, I'm expecting him

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to come after me, you know, because you're laid up

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in a ball out.

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Oh that's that is one that's scary dudes. So yeah,

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make sure I get it right. So wood knocks everywhere,

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and all of a sudden, you're like time to take

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a nap. It sounds like was it in the in

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the fetal position or just kind of pretty much Yeah,

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I just.

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Rolled like laid down and rolled up and that was it.

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How did you get out of that? Did it just

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like leave all of a sudden or I just woke up.

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Yeah, I just woke up and was and was like whoa.

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And even when I woke up though, I felt completely drained.

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H I I've never felt anything like that out in

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the woods any other place.

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Yeah, it'd be interesting to see. To look up like

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US US government geological maps, you can look up like

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I've been looking up like magnetic anomalies and see if

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that's something where it occurs in that mountain area.

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Yeah, there actually is a well known magnetic anomaly up

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on the plateau called the I think it's called the

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mid Crystal gravity high H. There used to be a

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the Cumberland Plateau Observatory seism Seismological Observatory was up on

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the mountain for for several years doing seismological tests. They

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were actually monitoring nuclear your tests and Russia up there.

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But they found that gravity high, which is supposed to

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be some sort of weird electromagnetic effect that's up on

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the mountain that goes up to five thousand feet up

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above the plateau.

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But that is that is extremely interesting because I mean

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you start looking into that, and then you start looking

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into where the big foot encounters are reported, and I

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think there could be some correlation. I mean, for example,

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you've got like the Cascade Mountains of Oregon, Washington, tons

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of reports, but also some weird magnetic anomalies out there

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as well. So it just it sounds like it sounds

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like a fascinating area, but one that you probably wouldn't

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want to take lightly going up to White Buffalo Mountain,

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especially if it's you know, by by the tribes in

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the area, it's it's regarded as a as a sacred area.

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You want to definitely treat it with respect.

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I would think, yeah, I've uh, I have. I have

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nothing but respect for that mountain. There's been twice I've

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tried to ascend that mountain in August and I got

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sun sun sick both times, and I literally took it

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personally like the mountain was like, no, you're You're not

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allowed here on August. And to this day, I do

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not try to go up that mountain in August.

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I have.

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Hmmm. Oh man, that that's uh, that that is something

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definitely that that makes you makes you think twice. Uh,

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and being aware of the of the places you go to.

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This also, this area is an area where do you

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ever experience, besides Bigfoot activity, any any high strangeness events

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in the woods as well.

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I've heard stories my entire life from locals about weird

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stuff up on up on that mountain. Uh, you know, lights,

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I mean even I've been told a UFO story, you know,

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of a big black triangle flying over that mountain. But uh,

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but as for like you know, personally, have I experienced

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other than the bigfoot stuff and the being zapped up

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there and the stuff you know, reappearing that I don't

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know how it reappeared. Uh, That's pretty much my experiences

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up there on the mountain.

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M hm. Do you have a I think how I

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want to I want to ask this based on your

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years of research and talking to people that have had

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activity and having interactions yourself, do you have any thoughts

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about what you might think Bigfoot is in this particular area.

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What I think they are personally? And this is I

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went into this. I'm not gonna lie. I went into this.

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When we first found our hotspot, I was very very

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devoutly of the you know, intelligent cryptid ape camp. You know,

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it was a flesh and blood, really clever ape that,

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for whatever reason, we just haven't discovered yet.

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I do not. I no longer believe that.

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I believe, based off of what I have experienced myself,

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especially in our our main research area, that these are

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some sort of like the Native Americans said, there's some

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sort of human tribe. They're they're they're they're a cousin

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species to us, or you know, maybe as far removed

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as us as Neanderthal is, but they're they're related to

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us somehow. They're they're they're as intelligent as we are.

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I think based off just reactions we've had. Yeah, I

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think they're they're closer to us than we feel comfortable admitting.

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Was there a certain event that happened that made you

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make that switch from one if you point to the other?

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Uh?

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Mostly my third sighting involved seeing a juvenile and and

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when I saw that juvenile, I was going through Mountain

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Laurel really really just tons of Mountain Laurel. And when

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I saw it, it was up under a root ball,

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and at first I thought it was a hole in

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the ground because it was so dark.

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Uh.

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And then it shifted and when it shifted, I could

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tell that it was it went like this, and it

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was shifting from looking at me to tucking its its

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its jaw down onto its show it's it's a chest

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kind of similar to the way a kid does whenever

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they're in trouble. That that like, you know, like they're

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trying to hide to not to not be in trouble.

465
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:50.240
And Jeremiah, that thing did not look like a monkey.

466
00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:54.200
It looked like a kid. It looked like a black skinned,

467
00:26:54.799 --> 00:27:03.960
black haired kid. And it affected me so much that

468
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.200
when I got home and my wife, you know, prided

469
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.640
out of me what I saw, Like I broke down

470
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.720
into tears, like it really affected me deeply, I mean

471
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:13.240
as a father.

472
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:14.160
Like just.

473
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:17.720
My wife said said, you know, what did you think

474
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.279
was going to happen if you kept going up there?

475
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:20.720
You know what, what do you think you were going

476
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.160
to see? And I always was like of the opinion,

477
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:24.880
you know, I'm going to see like something dug behind

478
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.079
a tree, or I'm going to see maybe something hop poke,

479
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.519
you know, it's head up, or you know, something like that.

480
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.240
I'm not going to see a kid looking like it's

481
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:32.759
scared and trying to hide from me.

482
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:35.359
And so that.

483
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.720
That really changed the way that I felt I've went

484
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.759
about this, because now it's like, I don't feel like

485
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.599
I'm dealing with a bunch of a pot of apes.

486
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:48.759
I'm dealing with a family. Absolutely.

487
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.119
I remember, I remember us having that conversation and the

488
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.920
first time we talked, and even back then, I could

489
00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:01.119
tell it extremely affected you. And you talk about it

490
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:05.680
in your book too, and and and you know a person,

491
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:09.119
a person will will talk in a certain way and

492
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.799
they'll write in a certain way, and in both ways

493
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.799
you can totally tell it affected you. Probably one of

494
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.720
the most intense things you experienced in your life. I

495
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:24.039
would imagine, Yeah, it really was. It was. It was

496
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:29.559
wild to to listen and also to read it. Do

497
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:34.720
you believe there's any times where you've had any communication

498
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.759
in any way with with the Bigfoot that you've been

499
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.599
interacting with in these areas?

500
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.720
Oh well, I mean, if it depends if you consider

501
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:47.079
wood knocking, you know, to be communication, then more than

502
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.160
I I would like to admit like it. We we

503
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.400
we regularly get wood knocking up in our main research area,

504
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.240
and I to this day still do not understand why.

505
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.319
I don't know if it's I I I just have

506
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.440
this weird feeling that's just them being friendly. I don't

507
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.799
I know, this sounds lame, there's nothing deeper to it,

508
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.640
but like that's the way it feels. It's just like

509
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:14.799
they're like, yeah, yeah, shut up now, you know. But

510
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.680
there has been a couple of instances where I've had

511
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.799
We've heard vocalizations up there several times. One time we

512
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.119
had vocalizations with We were sitting out there for over

513
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.839
an hour and just it sounded like a baby, like

514
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.720
a human baby, started babbling, and we just look at

515
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.119
each other, you know, like what And right after the

516
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:48.960
baby stops babbling, some things goes Sai Saw and I

517
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.599
don't know what Sai Saw means. I don't know if

518
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.240
that was the name. You know, it was like shut

519
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.359
up if it means, shut up, if it what, But

520
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:01.279
like it was very much a reaction to this baby babble,

521
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.440
and I to this day, I'm convinced now that like

522
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.279
one of one of the females probably brought her a

523
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.359
little one in to look at us, and the baby

524
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.240
got bored and she was, you know, exclaiming.

525
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.039
Is that brought up in other in witness reports as well,

526
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:23.440
where they hear them say strange phrases or or maybe

527
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.000
things that can be attributed to different Native American words

528
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:27.599
or things.

529
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.319
I thought, most times when I talk to people, they

530
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.960
don't they don't generally have.

531
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:33.480
Specific words that they heard.

532
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.440
Okay, they're just like, you know, I heard some gobbledygook

533
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.400
or I heard some you know, some kind of ramble

534
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.880
that that sounded like language, but I couldn't make out

535
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:41.359
what it was.

536
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.240
Gotcha, gotcha deelers, that dealers.

537
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.440
I know that the SAYI saw. And like there was

538
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.960
another instance where we got yelled at, and we got

539
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.680
yelled at the word awa. I don't know what awa means,

540
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.920
but at the time we were we had been gifting

541
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:02.240
peaches and this one speci area and we had taken

542
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.160
these peaches at him. We would always take a peach

543
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.079
out and eat the peach where we let the peaches

544
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.039
to show them like, look, you know, they're good peaches.

545
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:10.519
They're they're they're not they're not poisoned.

546
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:11.519
Something like that.

547
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.920
That's what was going through our heads at least, and

548
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.839
we had that all WA yelled at us and I uh,

549
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:20.079
I actually had a really famous author that told me

550
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.079
he was like, I think they were trying to tell

551
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.119
you I want, you know, all wah, I want.

552
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.039
I don't know.

553
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:31.559
It's it's very interesting. You know. Sometimes I'm thinking of

554
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.079
a few times out in the Pacific Northwest that they've

555
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:40.359
captured on audio some form of maybe syllables, and then

556
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.000
thinking other interviews I've done. I think the word e

557
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.519
knock or knock has come up a few times.

558
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:47.880
Knock.

559
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.359
I've heard knock several times. You know.

560
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.920
Yeah, is that something you've heard yourself or you've you've

561
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:53.680
heard knock.

562
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.839
I've heard them, not heard them, like the vocalization knock. Yeah,

563
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:57.960
it's not a knock.

564
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:04.440
Wow, Oh my goodness. Well there you go, wild wild

565
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:12.960
wild stuff. Let's talk a little bit about you have

566
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:17.440
a great a great well. I don't know. It's a conference, right,

567
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.000
it's a con. Yeah, So the Tennessee wild Man Con.

568
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.319
And you're already in your fourth year, which is wild This.

569
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.039
Last year, our third year was it this last August,

570
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.039
and we had twelve hundred attendants, over twelve hundred attendants.

571
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.039
We've moved the can to a much bigger facility that

572
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.079
can handle all of the attendance and all the guests

573
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.640
and stuff that we have. But no it's it's gotten.

574
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.279
It's gotten way bigger than it was the last I'll

575
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:45.319
talk to you. Yeah, definitely.

576
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.920
Wow that I did not know you were over twelve hundred.

577
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.559
That is actually that puts you up there in the

578
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.079
ranks with the other other guys I'm thinking of right now.

579
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:58.200
That's awesome.

580
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.319
Every year we've done thus far, we've had him Kay Davis,

581
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:05.799
We've had hell Ben Holler, Jesse and Joe of Helbin Holler.

582
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.319
Chester Moore has been there, uh every year thus far,

583
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.759
and then uh we usually we usually can't have like

584
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.400
the the guys that are always there every year because

585
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.880
they're nearby and that they don't care to travel, And

586
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.000
then then we'll have guests from farther out like this

587
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.680
last year, our guest of honor was our Scott and

588
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.480
Nelson from The Sounds, the crypto linguist. He was really cool,

589
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.119
really really got along well with him.

590
00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:33.240
Uh.

591
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:38.440
Another year we had uh uh Bron moorehead as our

592
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:39.319
guest of honor.

593
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:42.119
Uh.

594
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.839
This last year we had Tim Coombo Baker.

595
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.000
Uh.

596
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:50.920
Yeah, yep, yeah, we we we had all together. We

597
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:55.319
had nine nine special guest speakers, and then we had

598
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.759
five special guests on top of them. We're just there

599
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.799
to you know, to visit with you know, fans and

600
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:02.519
stuff like that.

601
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.240
Wow.

602
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:07.440
So and that's that's just that doesn't include vendors, right, No.

603
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.000
No, we had eighty six vendors on top of all this.

604
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:10.800
Eighty six vendors.

605
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:14.519
Yeah. Wow, we sold that. We sold out all of

606
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:15.239
our vendor space.

607
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.000
And is it a lot of big foot stuff or

608
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.880
I know some places are like only big foot stuff,

609
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.559
but some places are like, okay, be bigfoot, but it

610
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.920
can be other stuff too. What what kind of big.

611
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:29.960
Foot and other stuff took? Like we we try to

612
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.280
keep the it's two floors that were using. So we

613
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.199
tried to keep all the all the really big foot

614
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.800
associated stuff on the first floor and then all the

615
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.480
other stuff, you know for the second floor.

616
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:41.119
Gotcha.

617
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:46.719
We had a game company that came this year and

618
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.519
got a table and they were they were promoting their

619
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:56.119
crypto uh Cryptozoology Capture Bigfoot game there that that it

620
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.320
was the first first place that was being released like that.

621
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.559
We were, we were there, you know, their initial exposure

622
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:03.480
to the world, which I thought was.

623
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:03.840
Kind of cool.

624
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.840
Wow, that's awesome. It's like a board game. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

625
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.320
I'll have to get there. I'll get the name of

626
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:09.840
it and send.

627
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:09.960
It to you.

628
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.559
Yeah. I totally love stuff like that, So definitely definitely

629
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.119
pass it over. There's not too there. There's an old

630
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.000
antique one big footboard game from back in the seventies

631
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.800
or the eighties. If people can look into that, that's

632
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.440
an old one. It's hard to find.

633
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:30.039
But so.

634
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.559
You've got the wild Man con. But then this coming

635
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:39.639
year April twenty twenty six, you have something really cool

636
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:44.599
and you brought it up before we started, and then

637
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:46.800
in my mind I was like, oh, yeah, I've totally

638
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.920
heard of this, so it is actually a really cool idea.

639
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.159
Do you mind talking a bit about what the Tennessee

640
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.159
Cryptid Campout is going to be in April?

641
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:55.760
Sure?

642
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.039
Start, It's going to be from April thirteenth to the

643
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:04.280
seventeenth of twenty twenty six. What we've what we kind

644
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.840
of did was we've got a dream team of researchers

645
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.440
and what we're doing is we're actually hosting it on

646
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.480
our primary research area that I talked about in the book.

647
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.280
And what we're doing is we're bringing in these researchers

648
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.079
from all over the US. Uh that you know, we've

649
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.840
got Jesse and Joe from Helven Holler, We've got Ronnie

650
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:31.679
LeBlanc from Expedition Bigfoot Chester more from Dark Outdoors. They're

651
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.760
all coming in and we're we're dropping them into our

652
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.960
research area with with forty attendants. We've got eight spots

653
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.239
left so far, but uh, thirty one attendants so far,

654
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.760
dropping them into the middle of an active Bigfoot area.

655
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.079
That that's that has continuing you know, activity and seeing

656
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.840
what we can accomplish over four days.

657
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.360
So that's that's wilder than I thought because I I

658
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:02.079
didn't make then at it's in your research area. That's

659
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.679
a really really big deal because you know, I'm I'm

660
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.840
thinking there's so many guys out there that are like

661
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.320
they're not going to let you go into their research area.

662
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.800
But it's you're pretty much opening up the gates and

663
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.880
you're like, yeah, come on in and let's bring some

664
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.800
friends along too.

665
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:21.159
We've been in that research area for twelve years now

666
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:22.960
and we kind of figured, you know, we're like, look,

667
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.840
unless you know exactly where to look, like we kind

668
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:27.519
of know where they.

669
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:28.239
Hang out in that area.

670
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.960
Oh, I'm not really worried about not not not hugely

671
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:36.039
about other researchers coming in and souring my area because

672
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.519
they've been there for over forty years that that we've

673
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.159
got research or we've got reports going back forty years

674
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.800
now in that area. In this I don't think they're

675
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:44.920
I don't think they're going anywhere.

676
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:51.280
Okay, So is this Uh I can take this out too.

677
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:52.360
Is this area one then?

678
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:53.239
Yes?

679
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.480
Okay, cool? If I need to take that out, just

680
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:01.719
let me know. No, okay cool. So it's some people

681
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.440
are just like very protective and and it's it takes

682
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.760
a while to get used to. You're very you're very

683
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.079
giving with your information. Randy, That's that's pretty cool.

684
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.480
Well, that's one of the problems with big footing is

685
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.800
is no it is is that nobody wants to share

686
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.679
any information and.

687
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.519
It is Yeah, yeah, it's going to be our potent.

688
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.199
Let's say we're not going to say our downfall because

689
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.400
that's too negative and not not fun. We'll say potential

690
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.239
downfall will be the not sharing information.

691
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:31.239
Uh.

692
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.440
It's just crazy to think about. But so when when

693
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.760
people sign up for this, is it a thing where

694
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.440
you know they're they're putting their tent up and they're

695
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:42.800
there ten for a few days or what does that

696
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:43.280
look like.

697
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:44.639
No, they have cabins.

698
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.119
Uh, you're gonna be You're gonna be uh put in

699
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:48.840
a cabin with another person if you if you get

700
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.000
a ticket, we've got actually a couple's ticket. That's actually

701
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.679
cheaper if you get the couple's ticket. But if you

702
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.639
get the couples tickets, you get your your own private cabin. Otherwise,

703
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.400
if you're in there saying as a single place, you're

704
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.960
gonna be put into a cabin with another person. But

705
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:07.760
the cabin's got beds, electricity, you're not rough in it.

706
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:08.079
Really.

707
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:12.400
Uh, that's it's kind of one of the pluses of

708
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.039
of where our research area is. It just so happens

709
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:18.320
to be next to a very nice group camp side.

710
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.039
Oh my goodness that that is like very rare for

711
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:28.920
these things, extremely rare are and people be cooking over

712
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.840
a fire and things of that nature.

713
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:32.679
I know, we've got we've got a tavern keeper for

714
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.840
the whole time. For for one hundred dollars, you can

715
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.400
feed yourself for four days, the whole four days there

716
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.239
at the camp out. Uh, they'll be hippie cooking breakfast, lunch,

717
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.000
and dinner. If you don't want to bring if you

718
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:47.440
want to bring your own food, You're welcome to bring

719
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.559
your own food. I noticed some campouts don't want you

720
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.159
to bring certain kinds of you know, video recording equipment

721
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.920
and stuff. We don't care. Bring all the video recording

722
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.840
equipment you got, bring audio equipment if you got it,

723
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.239
If you've got thermal, if you've got this is the

724
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.239
time to bring it. Everybody's bringing all their good stuff.

725
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.360
So this is this is an extremely rare event. I mean,

726
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:14.400
i'd almost say it's almost like a unicorn because as

727
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.559
you mentioned, you don't have you know, uh, there's there's

728
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:23.239
other events where if you capture stuff, let's leave it there,

729
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.000
you know what I'm talking about. But but you guys

730
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.719
are very cool in that. Yeah, if you if you

731
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.840
want to just enjoy it, or if you want to

732
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.840
go and like make a vlog with a video camera,

733
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:38.719
I mean that's cool too. And just the fact that man,

734
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.960
you're in in the field with people like Jesse and

735
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:47.159
Joe and and Ronnie, that that's very cool. That type

736
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.079
of access is something that you are not going to

737
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.519
get over the internet. I mean, let's let's face it,

738
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.280
at the end of the day, guys, you have to

739
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.360
get out in the field, and once you do app

740
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.559
things open up for you in ways that they wouldn't before,

741
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:10.440
and that's when things start to really click. And that's

742
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.320
when the whole be careful what you wish for kind

743
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.159
of comes into play because you never know what's gonna happen.

744
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:19.360
It's fun. I've experienced it too. My goodness, this this

745
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.360
is really really, really cool.

746
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:25.960
But Jeremiah, if you could come down here man for it,

747
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.039
I'll I'll save you a spot.

748
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:32.079
Oh man, my goodness. It's tempting. Is it's very tempting.

749
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.800
It's very tempting because uh, listeners like I. So this

750
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:42.159
podcast it releases at one am the day it releases.

751
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.519
I would say, if you hear this, you need to

752
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:49.880
immediate okay, So do they go to a certain website

753
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:54.599
I'm guessing to event Bright Okay, So I'll have the

754
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.159
link in the show notes for this. I would say,

755
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:59.800
if you're listening to the episode right now, pause it,

756
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.079
go get the tickets immediately, and then come back and

757
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:10.360
finish the episode because man, eight eight tickets left and

758
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.880
we're filming November tenth. It's it's gonna be pretty tight.

759
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.760
So guys, make sure you immediately go and try to

760
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.800
get in if you can, and hopefully, I mean I

761
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.840
could see this being more than a more than a

762
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:26.639
one year event. What do you think.

763
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:28.239
We've got plans for the future.

764
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.440
Yeah, plans for the future. That's awesome. The cool thing

765
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.239
about Randy is in people that have read the book

766
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.039
might have picked up on this. And if you've heard

767
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.280
the first interview we did a few years ago, you

768
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:46.000
know Randy's no stranger to doing events. I mean, you've

769
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.599
done other events and so this is not your first rodeo,

770
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.000
which is a big deal. I mean, Randy knows how

771
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:58.039
to make these things happen. And another plug for the

772
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.920
book if you want to read probably one of the

773
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:05.360
best accounts that I've ever heard, and I'm so glad

774
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.000
it was in the book too, What happened? What happens

775
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:13.440
when a LARPing event gets connected with bigfoot activity? It

776
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.440
is incredible and I would say, let's not say it

777
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:19.920
now because we need to have let people need to

778
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.239
go read it. It is such such a cool story

779
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.119
and just blows my mind whenever I hear it or

780
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:29.760
listen to it. But Randy, thank you so much for

781
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.280
coming on the show. But I want to make sure

782
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.960
that you were able to share everything that you would

783
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.440
wanted to share, and also if there's ways that people

784
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.719
can keep up to date with what you've been what

785
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.000
you've got going on as well.

786
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.559
Okay, well thanks for having me, Jeremi. I really appreciate it.

787
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.760
I do have another book that's coming out probably in

788
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.039
the next two months. I'm doing a book on the

789
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:56.039
Tennessee Pygmies, the little people graves that were found in

790
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.280
the eighteen hundreds, and that's going to include several, uh

791
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.119
because where people's come to over the years. I've got

792
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:08.480
over i think seven total uh sightings of little people

793
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:10.639
cryptid little people, So I've got those in the book.

794
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:15.320
But I'm working on that. But aside from that, the

795
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.400
I'm mainly uh focusing on the camp out in April,

796
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:21.679
making sure that's gonna be awesome.

797
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:24.920
So that's awesome. Yeah, there's got to be a ton

798
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.199
of work, uh to make something like that go off

799
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.360
without it without a hitch. And if there's let's say,

800
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.800
if there's listeners that are listening down there and they're like, oh, yeah,

801
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.719
I've totally had something happen on the Southern Cumberland Plateau

802
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.840
and I've never talked to Randy and here's Randy. Is

803
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.519
there a way that they can best reach out to

804
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.400
you to report what happened?

805
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.559
Sure that you can either email me, uh email me

806
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:55.039
at Tennis Squatch It's T E N N E S

807
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.440
S q U A T C H at gmail dot com,

808
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:01.559
or or you can find me on the Easiest way

809
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:03.119
to get hold of me is find me on Facebook.

810
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:04.199
I'm on Facebook.

811
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.519
I get I've gotten I don't know how many reports

812
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.559
on Facebook since I was on Hulu like last year.

813
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.400
So, oh, when were you on Hulu?

814
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:18.400
What was that show called, uh out there Crimes of

815
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:21.559
the Paranormal? I was on episode seven, I think it

816
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.840
was either seven or eight. The Smoky Mountain not Mare

817
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:26.960
was the episode I was in.

818
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.159
I got to check that out. That sounds pretty cool.

819
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.360
Go go to Hulu and check out Randy on on

820
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:37.199
that show. That sounds that sounds pretty awesome because and

821
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.800
we didn't really really get into this, but you know

822
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.440
it's besides Bigfoot, You're you're also into paranormal stuff as well.

823
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.840
Oh yeah, yeah, so definitely check out check out that

824
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.360
show to get Randy's viewpoint. Will you ever come out

825
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.280
with any paranormal books?

826
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:53.679
I've been thinking about it.

827
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:58.280
Okay, yeah, right, well cool cool cool cool. Well, Randy,

828
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.519
thank you so much for coming on. That's of luck

829
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.760
with Tennessee wild Man con and the Tennessee Cryptid camp

830
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.119
out that's coming out, and we will have to keep

831
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.400
in touch for what the future brings man.

832
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.519
Thank you dude.

833
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.840
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

834
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:21.119
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

835
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.880
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

836
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.760
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

837
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.039
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

838
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.519
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something

839
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.519
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

840
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.519
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

841
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.400
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

842
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:48.000
you're a firefighter, paramedic or search and rescue responder who's

843
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.639
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

844
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.360
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field

845
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.519
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

846
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.000
happen that you've never told a soul, And if you're

847
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a biologist, a wildlife specialist or a field researcher under

848
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.320
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

849
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.320
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

850
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.800
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

852
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:23.039
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

853
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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

854
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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

855
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856
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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

857
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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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