Jan. 23, 2025

RICE CREEK BIGFOOT! | MINNESOTA

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as we delve into the fascinating Bigfoot encounters near Rice Creek Chain of Lakes, Minnesota. Jeremy shares his childhood sighting of a blonde Bigfoot and subsequent experiences, including haunting...

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as we delve into the fascinating Bigfoot encounters near Rice Creek Chain of Lakes, Minnesota. Jeremy shares his childhood sighting of a blonde Bigfoot and subsequent experiences, including haunting memories and eerie phenomena in the wilderness. We also hear from podcaster Daniel Hamilton and renowned Bigfoot researcher Doug Haijcek, who recounts his and his colleague's sightings in the same area. Discover the intriguing details of these encounters, the lush setting of Rice Creek Chain of Lakes, and the mystery that surrounds these sightings.

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Special thank you to Daniel Hamilton for coming on the show. Check out this show The Cryptid Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCryptidPodcast-h6y

Also, check out the Mysteries Unknown podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/@MysteriesUnknownpodcast

Special thank you to Doug Hajicek for coming on the show as well. Check out the Untold Radio Network channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@untoldradionetwork

This is the video clip Doug refers to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u1Ic5UoPVw


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All right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of

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talking to Jeremy today. Jeremy is an individual who's a

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friend of another individual that was on the podcast a

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few episodes ago from up in Minnesota name is Holly,

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and Jeremy figured he would reach out and share some

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interesting things that he is also had happened up there

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in Minnesota. So welcome to the show. Jeremy. How's it

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going today?

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Hey, there, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on.

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Absolutely been waiting to talk to you for a while

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ever since I got your sign up. It sounds like

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it's going to be very interesting. But before we get

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into it, Jeremy, are there any things about yourself that

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the listeners might need to know for context.

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That really I would set me apart from anyone else

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in terms of relating to Bigfoot. But I guess I'm

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a music producer. I enjoy nature and the outdoors. I'd

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like to consider myself an amateur naturalist, so I'd like

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to learn how to identify plants and mushrooms and that

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sort of thing, and just learn about survival in the

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wild is interesting to me. I'm into spirituality and a

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number of different realms, So I guess that's all I

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can think of that might be relevant.

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Very interesting. Jeremy, feel free to take us back to

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as far as we need to go when you first

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had your bigfoot interactions? Start off, and I'll let you

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take it from here.

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All right, Okay, first experience I had was when I

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was a kid. I'm honestly not really sure how old

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I was, guessing this happened in the late nineties. My

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best guess, after thinking about this for a few years

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is probably nineteen ninety eight, I would have been less

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than ten years old. So I grew up in Shoreview, Minnesota.

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Shore Views on the northern edge of the metro area

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of the Twin Cities. So just to the south of

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me is suburban shopping malls and things like that, and

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just to the north of me is like farmland and

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it's more rural and more a forest and things like that.

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But I grew up right next to this nature preserve

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called Rice Creek Nature Preserve. I just wanted to set

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the setting for this story, but some of my neighborhood

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backs right up to this nature preserve. One day, I

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was at the neighbor's house down the street, and I

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was inside with my brother, and the two neighbors and

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their parents were there, and we were playing running around

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the house, playing nerve wars. I think it was some

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kind of game. We were screaming, making lots of noise,

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having fun, and I just have this memory from that

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day going down to the basement. I ended up there

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alone for a short period of time, and I remember

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looking out the sliding glass door into the backyard and

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seeing this. At the time, I guess I probably would

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have only described it as a monster or a creature.

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But I saw this I looked humanoid. It was bipedal.

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It was so it was standing on two feet and

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it looked tall. It was covered in long blonde hair

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from head to toe. I'd say the hair is maybe

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like five to six inches long on the arms and legs,

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a little bit longer on the head, it seemed like.

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couldn't see its face. It was in motion the whole

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time I saw it. And so I just saw this

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thing on the right side of the yard, and it

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was so strange, Like my memory is weird. It's funny

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because my memory of this thing is blurry, and people

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always make fun of Bigfoot being blurry. At the time,

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I didn't think that this thing was Bigfoot, but it

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just I saw it solid on the right side of

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the yard, and then it looked like a blur between

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its position there, and then again I saw it solid

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in the center of the yard, and I just have

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this image burned into my mind of it there. While

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it was in the center of the yard, it was

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probably like thirty feet away from me, with a pane

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of glass between us, but it was in that classic

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bigfoot pose with the legs crossed over and the torso

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twisted to the opposite way the legs are crossed or stepping,

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and then its arms were swayed out. It had disproportionately

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long arms, like it looked lanky, like it didn't have

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the same proportion as human. The head sat on top

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of its shoulders, and yeah, it was as if it

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looked at me, but I couldn't see its face. It

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just felt like it looked at me. And then it

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either disappeared, or it turned and quickly moved straight towards

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the tree line and disappeared, or I just got scared,

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which is what happened. I got scared, and I ran

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away from the window and I hid in the corner

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of the basement. So I don't know if it actually

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disappeared in front of my eyes, or if I just

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didn't stick around to see what it did. So that

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was the extent of the site. It probably lasted three seconds.

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Maybe the thing moved so quickly, like a blur. And

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then I got scared and hid in the corner and screamed.

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The parents came downstairs, and we're asking what was wrong,

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and I told them I saw a monster in the backyard.

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Of course, the parents go look in the backyard, they

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don't see anything. And I'm not sure what they said,

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but I could have imagined. I probably just said, like

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you imagined it, or I don't see anything, must have

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been a deer or whatever. And yeah, as far as

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I knew, I had seen Boogeyman. But it's just so

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strange because I didn't tell my parents, at least that

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I know of or remember. And I asked my parents

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about this since and they don't remember me saying anything

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about seeing a monster. And I think that's about it

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to say about that story, other than I forgot about it.

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And I've heard about this a lot, where a memory

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is traumatizing for a kid to see something like that,

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and so your memory compartmentalize, is it? And I really

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do feel like that's what happened to me, because I

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remember remembering this encounter several times throughout my life until

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I was maybe fifteen. I would the memory would pop

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up and I'd be like, Oh, there's that weird memory

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again of this thing. What was that? I don't know,

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and I would just brush it off and forget about

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it again. And I didn't think about it or remember

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again until I think twenty twenty one, when some friends

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of mine had been living out in Washington and they

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said that they were out in a remote location hiking

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and they heard these sounds that were definitely, in their words, sasquatch.

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So and before that I was a skeptic, but I

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got interested because I trusted these friends of mine, and

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I went and I started listening to all the podcasts.

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I could find what people call on and tell their

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stories like I'm doing now, and I would watch documentaries

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and watch videos as supposed Bigfoot sightings. And after a while,

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the repetition of the detail tales of the sighting became

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so intense that it triggered a full memory recall. I

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had that memory come back up into the front of

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my mind again and I saw it like i'd experienced

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it yesterday. Now couple of years since then, the memories

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faded and it's not as clear, but I had that

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aha moment where I thought I finally understood what that

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memory was. That I was like, did I see a Bigfoot?

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There's no way Bigfoot in Minnesota. Like at the time,

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I had only thought that Bigfoot was more of a

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Pacific Northwest thing, So I said, Bigfoot in Minnesota. No,

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also in the suburbs in a backyard. No. And then

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the last detail that was thrown me off was the

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fact that it was blonde, and I never heard of

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a blonde big Bigfoot before. I still was in dis police,

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and I went and I searched on Google Bigfoot in Minnesota,

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and the first thing that pops up is an episode

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from America Onearthed called Tracking Bigfoot in Minnesota, and they

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interviewed two or three eyewitnesses who all had their sightings

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in or around the Rice Creek Nature Preserve, which is

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like a couple of blocks from my house. So basically,

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in this episode, I learned that this nature preserve that

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I've been visiting since I was a little kid, that's

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like a couple of blocks away, is a Bigfoot hotspot.

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And that blew my mind. And I was almost convinced

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at that point, and the blonde detail was still throwing

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me off, and I did some more research. I went

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to the THEFRO the Bigfoot Research or organization, I think

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the website, and went to Minnesota, found the closest counties

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to where, well, my county where I had the sighting.

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It doesn't say that there's any sightings, But the closest county,

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which is just on the other side of the creek,

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had like six or seven reported sightings, I think. And

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one of those sightings, which is actually the closest one

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to my neighborhood where I had mine, was in nineteen

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eighty eight, perhaps ten years prior to ten year old

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girls were in the woods playing and they saw what

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they described at the time as a blonde gorilla. And

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Vfro has since followed up with those eyewitnesses and now

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they describe it what they saw as a blonde bigfoot.

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didn't know what to call it. They called it a gorilla.

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And at that point I was a believer, not just

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a believer, a knower. Since then, my life has been

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pretty interesting. I've become a little obsessed with the topic. Also,

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another memory surfaced that something happened back in twenty fifteen

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that I didn't understand that after having this memory recollection

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and learning everything that I have about Sasquatch according to

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eyewitness reports and researchers, that in twenty fifteen, we went

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my partner and I went camping one weekend up on

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Lake Superior, on the beach on the Wisconsin side, and

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we laid out a blanket, made a fire and camped

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out underneath the stars, and we stayed up late just

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looking at the stars, and probably around three in the morning,

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I think we saw a whole bunch of UFO UAPs.

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I'm not really sure what to call them. The orbs

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I think would be the most accurate description of what

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we saw. It's basically, it looks like the ball of light,

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maybe like a satellite or something. It appears like it's

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very high up in the sky, but it's usually brighter

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and then sometimes tinted orange. And these things were moving

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all over the place and crazy movements back and forth

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and appearing, disappearing, flashing and stuff like that, not just

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moving straight across the sky at a steady pace like

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a satellite. During this varrage of UFO activity, all of

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a sudden, a face appears in the sky. It was

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as if this face just superimposed itself over the sky

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where it was opaque. I could see through it, but

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it was there. And this face looked like a like

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those Polynesian masks, or like the Salish Totem poles. Sometimes

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they have a face of I'm not sure what they

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call them peer, but the Sasquatch or it also looked

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like on Theanderthal. It's facial features were more native. I

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had the energy of like a chief or some kind

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of tribal leader, some type of humanoid or human being

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that was closely connected with nature. And it had a

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large mouth like the I remember the lips being like

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the mouth being wider. And this face disappears, looks down

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at me, and it goes and then just as quickly

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as it had appeared, it disappeared like smoke. And when

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it made this sound, it was a really deep, a

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big sound where I felt it in my body. And

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my partner didn't experience this or see it, and I

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told her about it, and I didn't understand it. But

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I went and I drew this face that i'd seen.

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I might still have the picture that I drew somewhere,

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but I just thought it was funny.

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Big for a society who will be right back after

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these messages.

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I drew it in red ink, this tribal looking face,

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and like years later now I've watched I don't know

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if you're familiar with probably thinker Punker his YouTube channel.

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He's got the little intro video with a little bigfoot

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face that's red and it goes back. It's actually very

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similar to what I saw. If you can imagine that

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face disappearing in the sky and going and yeah, I

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didn't know what the heck that was. There's another experience

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I just brushed off. And after learning about Sasquatch mine

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speak and remembering that I had this encounter, I wondered

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if that I actually experienced Sasquatch mine speak. I went,

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I looked, I did a quick Google search of Ugauga,

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and I found out that it is Caveman for hello.

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So I wonder if maybe for some reason, of a

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Sasquatch that'd be was being silly and said hello to

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me using mine speak. So that was the other memory

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I recovered. Since then, I have had two brief experiences

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and also some other maybe found weird bent tree structures

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and the footprints in the woods, but I'm the skeptic

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about that type of thing. I just became curious, and

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so now when I'm out forging for mushrooms or whatever,

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I'm looking for other details as well. But so the

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other two experiences I wanted to talk about where last year.

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It's the second now twenty twenty three. In September, So

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throughout the summer I was going down to and I

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have a fort that I started building by the creek,

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and I would go down and work on this fort

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maybe two three days a week throughout the summer, and

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one night in September. I don't usually go there at night,

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so I thought that was interesting. I showed up just

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after sunset and I was going to walk out to

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my fort, and there's this little deer trail that goes

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from the parking lot out to the creek. And really

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no one goes on the trail. It's not really it's

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not a march trail. It's hard to see too. I

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never see anyone going back there except for in the winter.

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But about forty feet down this trail, I come upon

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in the middle of the trail, sitting perpendicular to it.

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It was the body of a goose, a full grown goose,

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just sitting there. But there was no head or neck

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attached to the body. There's just a hole where the

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head and neck were, and there was no blood, no blood,

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no ruffled feathers like it looks like it just walked

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down the trail turned that down and its head popped off.

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I thought that was really bizarre. And then I found

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the head and neck together in the grass off to

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the side. And then I found part of one of

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the wings, also in the trail, at a t intersection

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where if you go left it goes to my fort

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if you go right, it just trails off into the brush.

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The so also the piece of wing was had no

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ruffled feathers and there was no blood. Same thing with

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the head and the neck. They all looked in perfect condition.

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And that was so bizarre to me. It actually freaked

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me out a little bit. I didn't even I was

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so freaked out. I didn't even take pictures. There's also

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like a lady sitting at the bench over by the

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parking lot. I didn't want to be this weird guy

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like taking pictures of a dead goose. I don't know

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what was going through my mind, and I beat myself

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up for not taking pictures. But so I just didn't

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understand what could have done that or why, like a human,

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why would they have done that. I couldn't imagine how

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they would have done that. Cowties. There are coyotes back there,

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but again they probably wouldn't have left it so nice.

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The only thing that really made sense to me was

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potentially Sasquatch, because I've heard of them gifting, gifting beheaded

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creatures and weird sorts of gifts like that before. And

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also the placement of the body parts along the trail

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resembled a Nordic ruin that I had been drawing on

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sticks in my fork when I would go there. Why

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was I drawing a run I don't know. I guess

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I wanted to explore my Nordic roots and I play

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with magic, and maybe I shouldn't have been doing that,

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but I was, And so I was drawing this not

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knowing much about it other than it was a protection

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symbol of some kind. The room is called uri schwaz,

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and I found out later that uri schwaz is sorry.

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It means thorn, and it also means giant. So that

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was significant because my fort is built in a thicket

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of buckthorn trees. Like when I would be out there

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building this fort, I'd be constantly getting stabbed by these

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giant thorns and know the pain. And I was back

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there like doing really minimal work to clear the invasive buckthorn. Also,

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the fact that the room means giant was really interesting

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to me, because these sasquatches are giants, and I don't know.

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It was just such a weird experience that this goose

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appeared in the arrangement that resembled that ruin, and it's

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too strange to be a coincidence. I feel like it

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has to have some meeting there. And since I've been

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doing more research about Nordic lore controls and things like

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that and giants, and it's just been a fascinating journey.

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I've been talking a lot, and I'm feeling a little

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long winded, but i want to get to the last

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little experience that I've had here and then maybe you

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can ask me some questions if you have any. I

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had that experience last year at the end of twenty

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twenty three, right before I moved out to the West coast.

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I live in Oregon now in southern Oregon, so about

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a year ago I was at a gathering. It was

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a Christmas gathering in southern Oregon and music and dancing

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and things like that. We had people over at this

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house until maybe around four in the morning is when

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everyone cleared out. So like when everyone was clearing out

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at four in the morning, there was a thick fog

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that had come into the valley and just blanket into place,

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like you couldn't see more than ten fifteen feet in

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front of you. As soon as everyone left, except for myself,

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the property owner, and a couple others who were staying

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on the property in vehicles, the fog had completely cleared

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and you could now see the stars in the sky.

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I was sitting out back by the fire with the

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property owner talking and we noticed a light above the

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ridge line and I'm looking at it and I'm like,

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that's not a plane, and so I pointed up at it.

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Actually I'm not even sure if I pointed at it,

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but the homeowner said, what is that? And I said,

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that's the UFO. To me very clearly, it was giving

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off that sort of energy. The way that it was moving,

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it was changing its trajectory was I don't really know

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how to explain it, but we watched it disappear behind

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the ridge line. Shortly after we went inside and went

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to go settle down and go to sleep. Went to

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the bedroom that's situated near nearest a creek that runs,

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a major creek that runs through the property, and there's

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a dog in the room with us, there's two cats.

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All of a sudden, we hear a bang bang, like

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something big was banging on the side of the house.

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It spooked both of us, and it spooked the dog too. Normally,

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when the dog is like someone's at the house, the

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dog will freak out and start barking like I'm gonna

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tell you to go away, blah blah blah, that sort

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of energy. But she's still it barking nervously like she

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was scared. The cats also jumped up and were looking

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around inquisitively. Then we heard something bang on the house again.

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We instantly left the room and got away from the wall.

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And one more time. We heard three times banging on

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the wall, and I decided to jump outside and run

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around the house. I don't know that I would recommend

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doing that, but that's what I decided to do anyways,

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and I circled the house quickly. I ran around the

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house three times. I didn't find anything. It didn't make

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sense to me if something was standing there banging on

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the wall, I should have seen it or heard it

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running away, but there was just nothing. So I come

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back inside and the homeowners like, what was it? I said,

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I don't know. It was honestly, probably sasquatch messing with us,

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and they scoffed at me, which I just find amusing,

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and so I don't know what that was, but I

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think it was interesting anyways. Yeah, So basically that's my

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story in a nutshell.

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Cheremy, you've experienced some really interesting stuff. Thank you for

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sharing all that. I mean, I just want to say,

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first off, I didn't not know that about the Minneapolis area,

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that Rice Creek, so that is very cool. I'm going

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to be looking into that. But I want to go

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back to you know, that sighting that you had as

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a kid, when you and it was so I mean

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you said just a few seconds, right.

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Could Yeah? I couldn't have been more than a few seconds.

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I mean, it's hard to tell such an old memory,

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and like the memory seems like a moment frozen in time.

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So I could have been standing there staring at this

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thing for who knows how long, but it was probably

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you know, three seconds ish four seconds.

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I'm guessing in such a short amount of time, were

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you able to get any emotional state from what it

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was that you saw or did it just happen so quick?

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I can't say for sure, but I didn't get the

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feeling that it was necessarily neither angry nor happy. I

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didn't feel like its movement was hostile. Maybe it seemed

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more curious than anything, because it did appear to look

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at me or notice me, even though I couldn't see

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its face and it's just all hair in my memory.

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Is there one detail that you remember noticing about it

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that you could say, yes, absolutely, what I saw that

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day was a bigfoot because of this one thing that

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I noticed, it was just so blatant.

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It's hard for me to boil it down to just

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one thing. Since this memory is so old, it feels

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distant to me, almost like a dream, even though I

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know it's not a dream, because I don't have any

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memories of dreams that are like this like you can.

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I can tell the difference between a memory and a dream.

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But it was all of the details combined that really

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made it definitive for me. I guess, for one, being

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covered from head to toe and hair its hyped. I

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would guess maybe it was around seven feet tall, give

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or take a foot, and its head sat on its shoulders,

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and it was lanky like it wasn't like bulky like

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the typical bigfoot descriptions, or it wasn't like Patty either.

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What I saw would have been probably taller and skinnier

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than Patty. But the fact that it's it was lanky

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and covered in hair and its head sat on its shoulders, well,

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I said, lanky like disproportionate length of its arms to

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its torso and legs and and just this the way

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that it moved like it was as if it ran

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across the yard. But I can't recalls. I can't see

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its feet, its legs like moving in my memory. I

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just see it like freeze frame here, freeze frame there,

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almost as if like the frame rate of my perception

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was too slow to capture its movements in a fluid manner,

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is how I would describe it, or like leg in

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a video game kind of thing. That detail also stands

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out to me. It just seems too coincidental. That's like

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a common thing that people describe with sasquash strangeness and

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how they move and maybe like time dilation type things,

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not that I recall experiencing time dilation.

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Picks a society who will be right back after these messages?

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Was there a time then when you got older that

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you went back to the adults in that situation and say, hey,

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do you remember anything weird about when I was a

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kid at this place? And I just freaked out and

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said I saw something.

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Yeah. So I've asked my brother who was there. I've

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talked to both my mom and my dad and told

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them that I remember seeing bigfoot when I was a kid,

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and do you guys remember me saying anything about it?

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And they don't remember hearing anything about it. And I've

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tried to reach out to the parents of the neighbors,

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but I didn't really try very hard. And I didn't

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I don't know. I didn't want to be weird and

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be like, hey, you guys, I think I saw a

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bigfoot And I just don't think that they would even

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really remember. The only reason I remember, and that was difficult,

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is because it was such an intense experience for me

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and no one else there experienced it. Yeah. I haven't

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got a chance to talk with the homeowners on the

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property where it occurred. I do recall having a series

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of nightmares around the time that I would place this experience,

458
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.599
and I talked to my mom about that, and she

459
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:39.839
remembers me having those nightmares and puts it in the

460
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.880
time the same timeframe. So I was having two dreams.

461
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.920
One of them that was reoccurring was these dogs that

462
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:54.240
would appear in like the what's it called the furnace room.

463
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:56.920
They would appear in the furnace room in my house,

464
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.000
and I would get scared and they would chase me,

465
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:06.319
big big kind of German shepherd like dogs. And the

466
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.839
other dream that I had that was reoccurring was I

467
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.160
was in my elementary school and I would walk down

468
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:18.119
the hallway and there's this room. It's like door that

469
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.960
I never went. I never actually went inside this room

470
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:22.799
when I was at the school, so I don't know

471
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.039
what's in there. It's but in the dream, I go

472
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.920
and go into this room and it's just the lights off.

473
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.640
It's just an empty room except for like some shelving

474
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.599
and in boxes a warehouse. And I go in there,

475
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.440
and then I noticed very quickly that there's something else

476
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:45.119
in the room with me, and I get stuck in

477
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.400
the corner of this room, and because the thing is

478
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.799
over by the door, and I'm just like hiding behind

479
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.720
some boxes, scared for my life, and all I see

480
00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:00.599
is this silhouette of this tall bipedal being with glowing

481
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.720
red eyes, and I think I had that dream two

482
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:12.280
or three times. And again, having as an adult learning

483
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.320
about sasquatch and the experience that people have and learning

484
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.599
about glowing red eyes and like seeing this black silhouette

485
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.719
made me wonder if that dream was related to sasquatch somehow,

486
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.440
and if I started having those nightmares because I had

487
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.960
that experience and my psyche was unable to process it.

488
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.719
That's a really interesting detail how you did have those

489
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.639
dreams after in the same area of time that you

490
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:55.400
had those that sighting. As you probably know from watching

491
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:59.960
viewing a lot of things like this, it's not just

492
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.320
seeing the Bigfoot or experience in the Bigfoot. It's what

493
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:07.320
it does to you afterwards. And that's almost more than

494
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.639
half of it from what I found. It's the dreams.

495
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.760
It's sometimes what you start to hear. Sometimes you hear voices,

496
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.559
Sometimes stuff starts to move around your house by itself.

497
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.639
Be interesting to know if there were others, if there

498
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.480
were other weird things that happened around the house at

499
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.920
that time, and maybe you just weren't aware of them

500
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:29.119
as a young child.

501
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.320
Yeah, No, I'm not really sure if my parents would remember.

502
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.880
Absolutely. You said that this was close to the Rice

503
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:44.519
Creek area, correct, Yes, Now was the actual house close

504
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.199
to the Rice Creek area or.

505
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.000
Ook the neighborhood backs right up to it. Some of

506
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.960
the houses in the neighborhood their backyards connect to the preserve.

507
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.320
Gotcha. And the preserve is made out of a group

508
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:58.320
of different lakes.

509
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.920
Correct, Yeah, there's a change lake there. There's a little

510
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.039
gas station there that's called Quickstop, or a little strip

511
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.519
mall with a gas station called Quickstop, And it was

512
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.760
right behind the quick Stop and one of the backyards there.

513
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:19.639
Gotcha. It's there's a trend that I'm seeing come out.

514
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.400
It was just it's really weird. Is all these sightings

515
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.800
are starting to come out from you could be considered

516
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.519
urban sightings. There's the ones that just came out from

517
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.119
Omaha from the BFRO reports over the last twenty years.

518
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.800
There's an individual that reached out to me with some

519
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.719
situations that have been happening right by the Kansas City

520
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.559
Zoo down there, a similar situation. It's just I think

521
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.400
it's a I think people might tend to not take

522
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.599
the urban reports seriously, but I think we need to

523
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.800
take them seriously. Because these areas weren't urban for all time.

524
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.960
Humans made them urban. But when you were talking about

525
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.840
how you said that there was the blonde hair, right,

526
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.400
and then you had you had actually read the report

527
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.320
where the I believe you said there were younger children

528
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.679
in the same area had also a sighting of a

529
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.639
blonde gorilla. How did that affect you when you've read

530
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.039
that report and you realized how how is your emotional

531
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.960
state during the reading of that report?

532
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.880
I was, I don't know if ecstatic is the right word.

533
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:28.280
I was mind blown. I couldn't I could not believe that.

534
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:35.559
The odds I've literally never heard I still think to

535
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.400
this day, and maybe maybe I've heard one other report

536
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:43.280
of a blond sasquatch. It's not something I hear common.

537
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:47.199
Usually it's auburn color or pitch black. And just the

538
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.960
fact that the closest sighting to the location where I

539
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:57.719
believed that I had this sighting was a blonde that

540
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:05.000
was absolutely mind blown and bewildered, fascinated. I'm not really sure.

541
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.039
I think if I was trying to put myself in

542
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:11.960
that situation, I would feel definitely similar. I think I

543
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.960
would feel just it would be an extreme validation. I'd

544
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.639
be like, oh, I really did experience as someone else

545
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:26.800
also in the same area, Blonde Sasquatch. It's absolutely incredible

546
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.599
when stuff like that happens.

547
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.079
Yeah, still like in a bit of a state of disbelief,

548
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.599
but like at this point the evidence has stacked up

549
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.159
far too much for this to have just been the

550
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.880
figment of my imagination or a dream that I had

551
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:44.679
when I was a kid.

552
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.440
And maybe I'll talk to the listeners for a little bit.

553
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:52.599
It'd be interesting to hear if other people have had

554
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.400
situations happen Bigfoot related in this Rice Creek area or

555
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.800
in this area in Minneapol. Listeners can definitely feel free

556
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.159
to reach out. The best way is Bigfoot Society at

557
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:09.119
gmail dot com email address there. But is this a

558
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:11.880
type of area that would have a ranger in charge

559
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.880
of it or some sort of worker.

560
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:20.079
Yeah, there's a ranger. It's probably a small, smaller operation.

561
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.519
It's like a regional park. So there's a park ranger.

562
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.880
I do know. I spoke with Doug Hijack.

563
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:29.400
Doug Hijack, Yeah.

564
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:33.920
Yes, at a good amount about this, and then also

565
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:41.760
the area there, and shoot what I can say, Oh yes, yes, yes,

566
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:46.159
so I talked to Doug about the park there and

567
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.639
he said that I can't remember it was him that

568
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:52.280
went out with a ranger or if the ranger contacted

569
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.719
him or what, but they found like a pile of

570
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:01.880
it was either animal limbs, like deer limbs, or a

571
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.280
pile of like deer and animal carcasses that were missing

572
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.760
lens one of the two something strange that they had

573
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:15.039
found in the park, and the ranger had spoken with

574
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.360
or brought Doug or some other bigfoot researcher out there

575
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:20.159
to check it out.

576
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.639
Okay, so this is then, now, this is getting to

577
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.960
be a whole different because this is a different level

578
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.360
because and I'm sure you're probably aware, Like if listeners

579
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.239
don't know who Doug high Check is, like he is

580
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:37.760
amazing individual who's done Bigfoot research and the legend Legends

581
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.440
Meet Science documentary, and he just invents so many things

582
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.320
to do with cryptid research. And just to know that

583
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.559
this is big enough that he also has checked out

584
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.280
the area, that, dude, I want to check it out myself.

585
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.039
He claims to have had his own fighting in the

586
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.840
area about five or six years ago I think as well.

587
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.639
He said it was just walking down the side of

588
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.000
the road, like in the ditch, and he said other

589
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.519
people saw it as well. I was like, why didn't

590
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.880
you take a picture? What the heck, Doug, And he

591
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:11.400
was like, I.

592
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.239
Don't know, Oh, in the rice.

593
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.960
Yeah, in the area, just walking down the side of

594
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:19.400
the road.

595
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:21.840
That's wild.

596
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.960
But yeah, it's a beautiful park. I definitely recommend getting

597
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.000
out there. There's a bike trail that goes through it.

598
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.360
I want to take your bike and go bike through

599
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.639
and check out some of the nature there. I don't

600
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:39.280
know how successful you'd be with research in the area,

601
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.719
just because it's so rural, but you never know.

602
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.239
Yeah, exactly, And listeners might be, oh, this sounds like

603
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.800
it's a small park in the middle of Minneapolis, but

604
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.480
looking it up, this is like more than a five

605
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.000
thousand acre park, right, It's pretty substantial.

606
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.639
It's pretty long. I'm not really sure how far the

607
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.519
like trail system stretches, but it's got to be at

608
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:08.880
least like fifteen miles. I'm not really sure. Maybe that's overestimate.

609
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:15.320
Extremely interesting. You've given me another place to look into

610
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.719
that's super close to me. It's one state north, so

611
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:19.719
I'm done in Iowa.

612
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.599
But yeah, yeah, i'd be curious to hear other stories

613
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:26.880
from the area. I showed Doug a little map that

614
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:32.199
I had created of sightings in the Park Reserve area,

615
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.239
and he's like, that map is way out of date

616
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.159
and incomplete. He's like, it's missing a bunch of sightings.

617
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.159
So I guess he's talked to quite a few people

618
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:44.079
in the area who've had encounters.

619
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:49.440
So it's just approximate. But how many sightings now should

620
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:51.760
be on that map, but like a ballpark number?

621
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:56.039
Don't quote me on this way. I think I remember

622
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.960
Doug saying like hundreds, and he might have been exaggerating.

623
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.559
It sounds like it's definitely more than five.

624
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:08.199
It's now more than whatever is recorded on THEFRORO. Okay, God,

625
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.320
I haven't even reported So.

626
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.400
Wow, that is extremely interesting. You mentioned though, that you're

627
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.199
not in the Minnesota area anymore. You're out there in

628
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:19.239
southern Oregon.

629
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.199
Correct, correct? Now.

630
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.079
I've spent time out there and it's such an interesting

631
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.000
The state is incredible. What was it like getting used

632
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:33.960
to it? I don't know if you can get used

633
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.039
to the state, because just in the fact that there's

634
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:41.400
so much sasquatch saturation in the culture. What was it

635
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:43.800
like to move to a place where like now you're

636
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.519
in thick of it, of what you experienced as a

637
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.159
little child.

638
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:52.400
Oh gosh, it is. It's been surreal. It just feels

639
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.239
like a dream. You know. There's a bit of it

640
00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:00.239
in Minnesota, because Minnesota is a hot spot for big foot,

641
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:06.400
more northern Minnesota particularly, and we will have the big

642
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.960
foot cutouts. When you're driving down the freeway. You'll see

643
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.039
it occasionally, and then for once in a while you'll

644
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:13.519
see something related to it. But it's just not as

645
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.760
big a part of the culture as it seems to

646
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.480
be out here. When I first moved here, I moved

647
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:23.719
to Happy Camp, California, and I just like got a

648
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.440
kick out of that. It wasn't even like I did

649
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.039
it on purpose. It had nothing to do with Sasquatch.

650
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.119
But I ended up in Happy Camp, which happens to

651
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:38.960
be the closest town to the closest like significant town

652
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.360
to the Patterson Gimblin footage site. And in the center

653
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.199
of town they got this big old Sasquatch statue. And

654
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.199
just around here in southern Oregon, I've checked out a

655
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:55.320
couple of the little bigfoot shops, and I've talked to

656
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:56.960
some random people.

657
00:44:57.960 --> 00:44:59.920
Big for society who will be right back after that

658
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:01.199
these messages.

659
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.840
I'll just ask them, yeah, you've ever seen Bigfoot? And

660
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.079
some people will actually say yes and then tell you

661
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.039
their story. And actually, in the town that I live in,

662
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.320
several people have told me their stories in the area.

663
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:33.880
I'm just gonna probably omit the actual area that I live,

664
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:36.840
but quite a few people in the town have had

665
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:44.280
experiences in the area. And yeah, it's just been it's

666
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.679
been validating and so real.

667
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.559
It's a thing where if you're talking about southern Oregon,

668
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.599
it really doesn't matter where you are because there's so

669
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.440
many areas that are just really thick with activity. And

670
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.039
you've got there's stuff that's happened in the Rogue River

671
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.960
National Forest. The closer to the coast you get there

672
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.440
seems to be more activity. You've got that sighting that

673
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.239
happened in the I think maybe it's Cave Junction, but

674
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.519
then over an applegate, you've got the famous Bigfoot trap

675
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.719
on your I don't know if you've ever gone out

676
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:19.880
and seen that, but that's a pretty cool deal.

677
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.840
Yeah. Yeah, I actually I went up there this year

678
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:26.840
and checked it out. It was interesting and I just

679
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.559
found it amusing that someone would take the time to

680
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.320
build that, even if just as a gimmick, like someone

681
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:39.079
did that, I think that says something about sasquatch in

682
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:39.599
this area.

683
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.280
Oh absolutely, And have you gone out camping at all

684
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.679
yet overnights things like that?

685
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.280
Not really, I didn't go out camping one night, and

686
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.760
I stayed in a in a camper van, so it

687
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.679
wasn't like really outside in a tent exactly. So I

688
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.920
haven't really put myself out there and had a chance

689
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:06.760
to maybe experience some of the spooky activity people experiencing

690
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.719
the forest at night out here.

691
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.840
And just as maybe a follow up, but you know,

692
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.519
living out there, and this doesn't have to necessarily be

693
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.639
sasquash related, But have you experienced anything that was just

694
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.079
playing weird out there that is really hard to explain?

695
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:31.519
Definitely? I'm like, orbs UFOs is always strange, and how

696
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.280
do you explain that? I don't know. But I've seen

697
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.920
those in pretty much any state I've been in, so

698
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:43.639
it's not anything new to Oregon other than yeah, I

699
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.840
don't know. I found some weird things in the forest.

700
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:51.159
For example, I found this the cedar tree that was

701
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:56.440
bent over and twisted three hundred and sixty degrees or

702
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.079
at least one hundred and eighty or three hundred and

703
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.639
sixty degrees around and it goes down into the ground

704
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.800
and then it comes back up out of the ground,

705
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.840
and the top of the tree is still growing upright,

706
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:11.119
and part of the tree is underground. It's just bizarre,

707
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:18.079
but I guess that could be explained some other way.

708
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.440
There was one thing I wanted to mention. I had

709
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.400
a friend of mine report to me, just because I'm

710
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.559
into this kind of thing, that a friend of his

711
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:36.119
out near Prospect, Oregon, saw something in the forest they

712
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:40.119
described as like a ball of fire that had descended

713
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.719
into the tree line. And he sent me this picture

714
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.599
and it looks like a forest fire in the woods,

715
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.239
but when it was sent it was like raining consistently.

716
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.920
I don't know, honestly, if this was anything, but it

717
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:59.119
just looked really weird and strange. And I talked to

718
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.480
the woman on the phone and she said that it

719
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.639
seemed like it had a consciousness, like it was a being.

720
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.960
And when they observed it, when they looked at it

721
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.280
and they shot, they shined their car lights at the thing,

722
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.679
it got brighter and it started to come towards them

723
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:20.599
and they got scared and they drove away, And yeah,

724
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.039
that's just pretty bizarre. And I hear stories like that

725
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.800
all the time. I've seen things like that and still

726
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.320
don't know exactly what's going on.

727
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.119
Have you ever looked up what ball lightning is.

728
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:35.519
Ball lightning? Yes?

729
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:35.800
I have.

730
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:44.800
I don't know. I've seen maybe a video of ball

731
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:51.480
lightning before, and that looked blue. This thing in the

732
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.400
picture was orange, So I don't know if ball lightning

733
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.880
can change colors. But I guess in terms of it

734
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:03.119
being like a blowing orb of lights, yeah, I guess

735
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:05.760
you could say it's similar. I just I don't know

736
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.519
a whole lot about ball lightning, like the UAP or

737
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:17.199
things that I've seen seem more like less like ball

738
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.079
lightning than people described.

739
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:24.800
Sure, and what an absolutely fascinating discussion. And thank you

740
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.320
for sharing what you experienced out there near Rice Creek

741
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.639
in Minnesota, Jeremy. I really want to dig more into that.

742
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.519
I think I'm going to feels like there's a lot

743
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.599
going on up there over the years and Swas. Thank

744
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:40.679
you for coming on the show, for sharing what you

745
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.920
experienced and been a very enjoyable discussion.

746
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.079
Yeah, no, problem. Thanks for having me. I appreciate the

747
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:50.239
opportunity to share.

748
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:56.239
All right, So I just reached out to Daniel. Your

749
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.320
last name is public, right, Yeah, it's public. Ye okay.

750
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:03.360
I just reached out to Daniel Hamilton from Man Dane.

751
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:07.280
This is so unprepared. I can't even remember your episode number.

752
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:12.679
But you're from, of course the Crypti podcast. Correct, yep, I'm.

753
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.280
The host of that and the co host of Mysteries Unknown.

754
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:18.239
Hekka. I just got off the phone with a gentleman

755
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:21.440
who was telling me about his encounter from Rice Creek

756
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.559
up there by Minneapolis. I was like, man, I gotta

757
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.639
talk to Daniel because he probably knows stuff. So what

758
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:28.599
do you know, my friend.

759
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.840
I do know that Rice Creek is like fifteen minutes

760
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:38.239
from my house, and I camp there or have camped

761
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.079
there a bunch of times. I was doing some research

762
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:47.920
not even a month ago, for a buddy mine who

763
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.760
had a wind to go and counter not far from

764
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:55.159
Rice Creek either, and we're looking for a place to

765
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.519
do some investigation work. And that's when I found that

766
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:03.400
there was a sighting near Rice Creek. And yeah, so

767
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:05.480
I'm super excited to go out and to do some

768
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:06.400
actual field work.

769
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:09.719
I know there's been sighting in that area.

770
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:10.280
Yeah.

771
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.719
So this guy Jeremy I was talking to, so he

772
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.159
had a sighting as a young kid and he saw

773
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.000
a blonde bigfoot. But the thing is he also found

774
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:25.559
another report where some witnesses had seen a blond bigfoot

775
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:27.320
in the same area as well, So I would keep

776
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.920
an eye out for that detail as well.

777
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.400
I'm definitely I can't wait to listen to it, to

778
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.599
this episode that you got hopefully coming out. But the

779
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:42.639
information that I found was a large creature walking across

780
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.800
a lake, a frozen lake or a pond, whatever you

781
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.239
want to call it, to a smaller island that had

782
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.119
tree out crops on this little island in this lake.

783
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.519
And the couple was out walking their dogs when they

784
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:02.880
saw this thing like across the ice. If you've ever

785
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.400
been on ice, you're trying to cross ice, you want

786
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:06.960
to be as careful as you can. This thing was

787
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.960
flying across the ice and it went off into this

788
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.079
little island. And I think I have the island located,

789
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.320
but it's close to the Rice Creek area.

790
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.800
Okay, this just because it sounds like you've been there, Daniel,

791
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.320
This Rice Creek area do you feel like it could

792
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.480
be an area that could support creature like Bigfoot or

793
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.760
do you think they might just be retely.

794
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:34.719
Absolutely, dude, because there's now the way the camping thing

795
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.199
is set up is when you come into Rice Creek,

796
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.280
you have wetlands and woods all around you. I've seen

797
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:47.400
dear multiple times through that area, rabbits stamping.

798
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:48.960
Turtles, squirrels.

799
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.679
I assume there's going to be raccoons, postum everything around

800
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.960
that area. Large water source, wetlands, pretty of covered concealment.

801
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.159
Not to mention a lot of campers they leave their

802
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:07.000
coolers outside of their their tents or their campers, so

803
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.039
those are we know they're creatures of opportunity, so it's

804
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:11.320
a good possibility they can be raided.

805
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:11.800
Those two.

806
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:16.280
But the times that I've been there, I've heard something.

807
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:18.840
Not sure what it was, so I'm not saying it

808
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.199
was a sasquatch, but to me, it didn't sound like

809
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.360
anything I've heard before. And we were sitting around a

810
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.719
campfire one night when we heard this noise was.

811
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:34.280
It was definitely like a wasn't quite a growl, wasn't

812
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:35.199
quite a howl.

813
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:42.679
And everybody's looked at each other and they asked me

814
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.400
what it was, and I go, I don't know, a

815
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.400
dog or something. I don't know, because people bring their

816
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:53.760
dogs camping in this location. But when you come into

817
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:58.519
the park, the Rice Creek Park area you go to.

818
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.440
When you see you go up, you go to the left,

819
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:04.440
that's where all the camping.

820
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.159
That's where all the camping sites are, and they have

821
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:11.760
electric hookups, they have water hookups that type stuff, and

822
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.840
they also have like a couple of areas of like

823
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.079
primitive camping, no hookups, just tend you to camp to

824
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.039
the tent. And if you keep going straight bypass the

825
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.000
camping area, that's where you go to the actual right

826
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:26.239
the lake and there's a lake with the beaches of

827
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.280
the beach here and everything, a little parking area then

828
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.760
that goes up and around. So it's a pretty large area,

829
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:36.480
but it is it is in a not truly a

830
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.760
residential area. But there are houses on the lake and

831
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.679
there are some housing developments around this area, and it's

832
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.599
somebody it would not surprise me in the least.

833
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:48.519
So is this a kind of area where there's like

834
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:51.639
sometimes in a residential urban type setting where you have

835
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:53.639
like Bigfoot hanging out in an area like this there's

836
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:56.679
gonna be like a green space where like a trail

837
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.360
of woods that lead into this. Is this is the

838
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.880
case or is it just like an island of a

839
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:04.599
forest here.

840
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.440
There are walking trails throughout this area. You can ride

841
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.079
your bike through this area, but it's pretty much set

842
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:17.519
up to be a campground. This area, now, this is

843
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:19.960
the air of Rice Creek that I know of now,

844
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:23.000
because I'm only really familiar with that area, I haven't

845
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.679
really gone out and explored more of the area. But

846
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:31.639
when I reviewed that story that accounter, they also mentioned

847
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:35.400
it's near like a state park or like a kind

848
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.519
of like like Rice Creek Recreation area or whatever. Right,

849
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.079
And I did a Google map on it, and I

850
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:45.400
looked at the area and I could see how they're connected.

851
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:46.679
Got it.

852
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.199
So it does look like there is some service roads

853
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:54.239
that go through and so them traveling back and forth

854
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:55.199
would be pretty easy.

855
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:57.960
I got to look into this more, Daniel. I don't

856
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.599
want to keep you away from your but thank you

857
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:03.159
for hopping on for a few minutes and for sharing

858
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.800
what it's like up their current day. I appreciate it.

859
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.239
Oh yeah, not a problem, man, And I can't wait

860
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:12.440
to hear this episode you're going to put this on

861
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:15.079
for what this individual reported to you, I can't. I'm

862
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:18.079
excited about it because again it's literally fifteen to twenty minutes.

863
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:18.400
From my house.

864
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.639
Dude, I'm loving it. And guys, if you're not aware

865
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:26.239
of Mysteries Unknown and the Crypted podcast, make sure you're

866
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:30.400
checking it out. I'll have links in the description for

867
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.079
that as well. But thank you, Daniel hey.

868
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:35.199
Man, Thanks lot. Hope you have a good day and

869
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:36.880
hope you have near.

870
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:40.480
All right.

871
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:43.880
Hey, we've actually got Doug Hicheck on the phone, and

872
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:47.239
listeners are probably familiar with Doug from of course the

873
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:54.440
awesome documentary Sasquatch Legend meets Science. How are you doing, sir, good?

874
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.159
How are you good? I just reached out to you

875
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:01.920
after I recorded the episode that listeners just to listen to,

876
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.440
and I wanted to see if you would be able

877
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.440
to take a few minutes to actually share what you

878
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.079
experienced in Rice Creek, and I think that would be

879
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:11.840
amazing to hear.

880
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:18.119
Yeah, I've got a little bit of experience. And where

881
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:22.679
it gets weird is for years I was with the

882
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:26.760
BFR own I remember reading the reports obviously down the

883
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.000
road in my own backyard about people that had seen

884
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:36.000
bigfoots over in this Rice Creek area between like Centerville

885
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:40.719
and Line Lakes and even farther south, because there's a

886
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.119
whole chain a very actually I call them. They're in

887
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:51.079
troficated lakes, meaning they're very old lakes. They're not glacier lakes.

888
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.400
And we have a lot of them Minnesota that are

889
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:57.159
very clean and deep. These are like filled in old

890
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:03.760
ancient lakes or basically swamp shallow water. Very few people,

891
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.800
if any, live on and they've developed a big state

892
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:11.280
parks system around a number of them, with a trail

893
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:15.400
system and whatnot. But it's a really unique area. And

894
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:18.760
so I had read the reports years ago, and then

895
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:22.719
one day I decided to buy some land that butted

896
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:26.800
up to some of these two of the lakes more

897
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:32.320
in the northern corridor. And one night I had come

898
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.280
walked out of my building or my workshop is, and

899
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:42.599
I heard some coyotes going off, and then I heard

900
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:46.880
some woodknocks, and I went what, And then I remember

901
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:52.159
the old BFIRO reports. I just started clicking. I'm realizing

902
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.400
that maybe these things are in my own backyard.

903
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.679
Right big for society will be right back after these messages.

904
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.159
So I mentioned this to a guy that works for me.

905
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:20.639
We were talking. I said, hey, you need to go

906
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.960
out and explore all that area, because I had done it,

907
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.239
and I was really interested in just how wooded it

908
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:31.360
was and desolate and how much land there was back there.

909
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:35.239
These lakes are really unique because almost all of them

910
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:37.800
are barbed wired off. You can't even get in there.

911
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.679
In fact, the lake behind me, as I got a

912
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:46.480
hold of the owners, apparently they don't let anybody go

913
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.360
on that they want it for it's been in this club,

914
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.960
Honting Club, I believe for one hundred and fifty years.

915
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.920
They're not allowed to even go on it, and so

916
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.880
it's a unique area. In fact, apparently they let some

917
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.519
botanists explore the area and they found some plants that

918
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.920
were extinct everywhere else, or at least had thought they

919
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:11.480
were extinct Oliver, Minnesota. They found him in that area.

920
01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:14.159
So it's a unique area. I want to get that across.

921
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:19.760
Then one day an employee of mine comes up and mentions,

922
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:23.280
he goes, did deer walk upright? And I went, no,

923
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:26.840
I don't think so he said, with this big giant

924
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:30.559
red thing. And I was exploring I took your advice,

925
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:34.519
and I was exploring back there. And as I was exploring,

926
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:38.000
i'd come around a little corner and over a little hill,

927
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.400
then down the hill, and there's another curve there. Right

928
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:44.199
when I went down the hill, I was coasting two

929
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.559
in the afternoon, bright sunny day, and lo and behold,

930
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:55.480
there's an animal walking across the road upright. And it

931
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:59.280
was not only upright, it stepped over the barber fence

932
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:01.760
and just speared into the bush. And he goes, that

933
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.719
must have been a deer, right, I said. I asked

934
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:09.039
him to have broad shoulders. He had had broad shoulders,

935
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:12.960
and asked him how tall it was. He's thinking seven

936
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.800
and a half tall. And I'm like, why.

937
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:16.599
Do you think it was a deery?

938
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:20.119
So it's a color of a deer alburn collared. And

939
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:25.880
then he pointed to a pair of shoes in my shoeholders,

940
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.519
shoes that I have, and there's this lining in one

941
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:32.239
of them, or one pair that's auburn colored, were ringing

942
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:35.400
a tan colored, right, And I basically convinced him he

943
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:39.280
did not see an upright walking deer. Years later, I

944
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:42.679
was driving back, had driven out the White Bear Lake

945
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.639
with a vet. We had to run an air and

946
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.079
out there, and it's on our way out there, there

947
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:52.039
was a water ski show on one of these lakes,

948
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.800
probably the deepest one that butts up to Rice Creek Park.

949
01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:59.679
And normally there's nothing on allecause there was nobody that

950
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:02.440
lives on it, but they were put in a water

951
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:04.920
ski show and there was quite a few children gathered

952
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:08.280
around the shore watching this as we drove through this

953
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.559
little windy village and windy road out to White Bear Lake.

954
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.480
So on our way back, it's starting to get dark,

955
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.840
not a tonne of light, very dusky, and suddenly on

956
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:26.800
our right side and we see what looks to be

957
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.800
a bigfoot walking with its back to us. On the

958
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:38.719
right side. That hit the most unique hair that I've

959
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:41.440
ever seen. It look almost like a starling if you

960
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:47.719
look up a starling, very patchy, little like speckles throughout it,

961
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:53.039
very even, very salt and pepper. It was just weird

962
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.760
if you look up as starling. It's the only way

963
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.960
I can describe what this hair looks like. But it's big,

964
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:02.760
probably seventy eight feet tall, big broad shoulders. I see

965
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.760
its legs, I can see its glutes, and it's just

966
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.480
plowing and I mean plowing through these trees and just

967
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:14.400
knocking these little trees down in this ditch, and it

968
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.800
looked and then suddenly I realized it's going into that

969
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.639
Rondel Lake that's where Joe had his sighting and where

970
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:25.320
there's been other sightings. And it's just basically I think

971
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:29.840
that it was watching all the kids that were on

972
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:34.400
the shore watching this water ski show. It's a feeling

973
01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:37.639
I got. It was probably the woods behind there. It

974
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:39.960
was probably watching them from the woods, and now it's

975
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.679
going back. They probably heard this commotion in an area

976
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.440
it never hurt any commotion. So we see this thing

977
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:52.320
trudging through and then it disappears down into these thick

978
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:56.360
alders and there was even cars behind me. They must

979
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.000
have seen it. And we were just in shock. And

980
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.440
when you're in chocolate, you just keep driving.

981
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:02.840
I didn't know what to do.

982
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.679
She's like, you saw that. I'm like, yeah, and it's over.

983
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:11.960
It's the number of six seven seconds of shock. But

984
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:16.119
it all made sense. Everything that we saw made sense

985
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.559
based on prior reports, based on the history of the area,

986
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.079
the type of environment, because no one's allowed and where

987
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:28.119
this thing was heading, no one's allowed in there. There's

988
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:31.960
not one home. It's just a big kind of wilderness, swampy,

989
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.679
shallow lake that I'm sure has quite a bit of fishing,

990
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:39.159
lots of deer, lots of turkeys, lots of coyotes, a

991
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:43.079
lot of fox playing game for food, and nobody can

992
01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:45.679
camp in there. There's no dogs allowed in there, and

993
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:49.239
it's barbed wired off on the home corner of this land.

994
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.679
We just went in shock. I've never really experienced shock,

995
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.800
Like why didn't I stop? Why didn't I pull over?

996
01:05:57.679 --> 01:05:59.880
Why didn't I do this? Why didn't I do that?

997
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.239
I think about it. I know I had cars mind,

998
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.480
he's not really any kind of shoulder to pull over,

999
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:09.519
but I still regret not doing that, whipping my camera

1000
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:14.119
out and filming. So that's the story Byron.

1001
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.000
That's incredible.

1002
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:16.280
Doug.

1003
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:17.119
What year was that?

1004
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:25.400
Oh, that would have been probably about five years ago.

1005
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:30.440
Now only five years ago, Doug, Yeah, twenty twenty, Oh

1006
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.480
my goodness, five years ago.

1007
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:39.119
Joe's citing happened. And I do recommend if you ever

1008
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:41.800
want to talk to Joe, I can get you his number.

1009
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.039
But Joe was also in shock, to the point where

1010
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.119
he's in denial of what he saw. It all makes

1011
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.559
sense now. And it was funny too, because I hooked

1012
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:53.880
him up with a tracker that sent him back over

1013
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.480
to that area and they drove around this perimeter row

1014
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.320
that kind of goes around the outside of it where

1015
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.840
he had his sighting where it crossed. And what's interesting

1016
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.000
is where it crossed, there was a farm on the

1017
01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:09.760
left side, and there's a tree break that goes to

1018
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.400
a lake called Crossways Lake that's also a big kind

1019
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:18.880
of wilderness area that my shop kind of butts up

1020
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:22.199
to the land before the forest starts or where I

1021
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:27.079
heard the wood night. And he brings his tracker and

1022
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:29.079
he drown the perimeter and he goes he didn't tell

1023
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.519
the tracker where he had his sight He's like, well,

1024
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:34.239
you tell me, or you think if this thing was

1025
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:37.199
going to cross, so we're on this whole long road,

1026
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.960
where would it cross? And he picked the exact spot

1027
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:44.400
that Joe had a sighting. And then Joe was featured

1028
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:50.519
in America Unearthed with Scott Walter and the Bigfoot. The

1029
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:55.320
one Bigfoot episode that they did for America Unearthed. There

1030
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:59.679
was also another little caveat to the story. Joe had

1031
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:05.400
told me his sighting. Literally it was days later when

1032
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.800
he was over. We were working on a project, and

1033
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.239
on the news came a story of somebody spotting a

1034
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:18.319
bigfoot and getting footage in that same area, and so

1035
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:20.880
of course we're just wepens and eagles waiting for this

1036
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.560
news story to come on because he had seen this

1037
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:26.479
red one. And they show the footage on the news,

1038
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:29.920
and sure as heck, you can see it's an alburn

1039
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.119
colored bigfoot that ducks. It's it's not real long footage,

1040
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:36.439
and it's like a lot of the bigfoot footage a bit.

1041
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.279
You know, it's blurry, it's quick, but it's actually, I

1042
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:42.600
think one of the better ones. And it did make

1043
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:45.840
its rounds on YouTube, and I can vouch that footage

1044
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:50.920
is authentic based on Joe's sighting just days prior to

1045
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:54.439
this couple, and apparently it was a farmer couple that

1046
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:58.640
had seen this thing. A god cell phone footage of

1047
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:02.079
it as it ducked into the trees very quickly. It

1048
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.279
was walking at a very quick pace, ducked under some trees,

1049
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:09.279
but it was auburn colored. And then I ran an

1050
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:14.359
ad in that local newspaper offering a like a thousand

1051
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:18.399
dollars reward or a reward for them to come forward

1052
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:21.359
because they dropped the footage. Outs at the news station

1053
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.520
wouldn't give their names, didn't want anything to do with it,

1054
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:26.600
but wanted it to get it out to the public

1055
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.920
what they had seen. But no names were associated. So

1056
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:33.720
I ran this ad for a month or so and

1057
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:39.159
in their local newspaper and then Still Water newspaper. Nobody responded.

1058
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:43.680
I never got one response to find them.

1059
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:47.399
Was this also five years ago as well?

1060
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:52.319
No, this goes back that one Joe siting goes back

1061
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.239
probably ten or eleven years.

1062
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.279
Okay, Wow, Like.

1063
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.319
I said, we're in colored. But it was who in

1064
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.439
the afternoon Byron. It was in front of his truck

1065
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.159
to in the afternoon, unfettered by any trees or anything,

1066
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.520
walked in front of his truck, stepped over about a

1067
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:16.399
five foot barber and fence and was gone, disappeared into

1068
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:16.800
the bush.

1069
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:18.800
Wow.

1070
01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:19.880
That poor joke.

1071
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.680
Yeah, it was just well you said, I feel sorry

1072
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.960
for the guy because he was convinced it was a deer.

1073
01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:32.560
He didn't even he didn't want to tell me. Just

1074
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:34.680
felt silly deer walking up right right.

1075
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:35.399
Wow.

1076
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:38.199
So I just tried to do a quick search. I've

1077
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:42.720
never heard or that footage I've never heard of footage

1078
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.000
from that area, but yeah, if that's something, where where

1079
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.640
it is online or like, I couldn't find it on YouTube.

1080
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.079
I just spent a minute, though, I would love to

1081
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.800
see that footage if you know where it is.

1082
01:10:54.079 --> 01:11:01.199
I've called, yeah, I've heard it called the Stillwater Kroy footage,

1083
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:06.039
and see that area is they do east? Exactly do

1084
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:08.920
east where Joe had his siding's on Big Marine Lake

1085
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.800
is where that sighting happened. So if you just walk

1086
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.199
due east from this Rondel Lake where he and his

1087
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:19.399
sighting and that Rice Creek chain of lakes, it's just

1088
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:22.760
due east and there it was not even I don't

1089
01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.720
think even four or five miles away from Joe's sighting,

1090
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.399
doing towards the Saint Croix Valley, which is where I

1091
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:34.720
think I theorize that's where they come from, the Saint

1092
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:39.239
Croix Valley, Minnesota, and then that's their area that they

1093
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:44.039
either traverse, migrate up and down, or live. And then

1094
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:48.159
they punch in every now and then to these areas

1095
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:51.640
that are untouched but yet still very much close to

1096
01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:56.479
the edges. Because we have so many deer, so much

1097
01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:00.520
heap sane, I can't take a dry we're on that

1098
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:06.119
lake without seeing fox, coyotes, owls, turkeys, and just tons

1099
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:08.039
of deer, just thick with game.

1100
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.279
How many, approximately, how many reports do you think have

1101
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:14.000
been from this Rice Creek area?

1102
01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:20.000
Doug Oh, I'm going to guess we're probably looking at

1103
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:24.560
to be official and unofficial. The official ones are probably

1104
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:29.600
only five or six because people are afraid report them.

1105
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:32.600
But I'm thinking now just the ones I know about,

1106
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.399
the ones I've heard about from other people, I think

1107
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.680
we're up to about twenty some Oh my goodness.

1108
01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:41.119
And how far back would you say? Year wise?

1109
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.880
What's real interesting is that the road Joe had his

1110
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:53.399
sighting on is called fur Man Road.

1111
01:12:53.600 --> 01:13:06.119
Really yeah, coincidence coincidence, I don't know, but see the sighting.

1112
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.279
See you have to think when did the be a

1113
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:10.880
farals start reporting stuff? And where did they even come

1114
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:14.079
to an existence? I think back into the nineties, but

1115
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:18.119
I'm sure there's been sightings back there forever. And I

1116
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:25.439
often wonder why did those lakes get barbed wired off?

1117
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.880
Why have they not been touched in iron fifty years?

1118
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:37.399
There's some of the most ancient Indian sites that occupied

1119
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:39.840
that area, and I can't think of the name of

1120
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:44.920
the tribe. But there's an ancient that goes back thousands

1121
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:50.560
of years that inhabited that area. So there's definitely a

1122
01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:54.960
lot of native history. They've found artifacts, and so the lakes,

1123
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:57.399
I can name some of them. There starts it with

1124
01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:03.359
like Blampray Lake, and there's another of smaller lakes that

1125
01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:06.000
are too small to even name, and then Ron daw

1126
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:10.319
and then George Watch there's another one I can't think of.

1127
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.439
It's been a while since I've thought about the names

1128
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.159
and all these lakes. And then the ones that go

1129
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:23.279
through the Rice Creek Park, the official park, and that

1130
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:27.159
goes far south. But here's where it gets really interesting. Byron,

1131
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:31.920
do you remember the man that went missing, the Henry

1132
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:36.159
McCabe story where they found his body. That's interesting because

1133
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:42.239
he took a shortcut through that area oh at night.

1134
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:46.319
Oh and you remember this that was recorded in him

1135
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.439
saying stop it and the screaming, and there was a

1136
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.359
very strange recording. And I don't want to say that

1137
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:58.520
he was drowned or killed by a bigfoot, but that

1138
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.279
was the first thing I crossed my mind when he

1139
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.399
went missing through there, and I realized that he had

1140
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.119
taken a shortcut through that lake area, and that's where

1141
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:15.319
they found him too, floating in one of those lakes. Yeah,

1142
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.000
it's just it's a real spooky area. And I do.

1143
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:20.439
I go out there at night and I do surveillance

1144
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.720
with like really low light cameras where I can set

1145
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:27.279
up and do surveillance and where I can see across

1146
01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:29.880
like Rondell Lake. I can see all the way across

1147
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:34.840
with like Sony a seven camera and has five hundred

1148
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:41.960
and fifty thousand ISO, so it gets down almost it's

1149
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.479
like color picture and pitch blackness.

1150
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:45.720
Right.

1151
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:47.840
I just need a few stars out and I can

1152
01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:50.760
see all the way across the lake, and so I

1153
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:54.720
can patrol the shoreline and stuff. And I do that

1154
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:58.840
and then I drive the lake real slow. The trouble is,

1155
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:01.880
I have a feeling that the neighbors have all had

1156
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:06.159
experiences out there. They just really don't want to be

1157
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:10.159
bothered by researchers and seem a little In fact, when

1158
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:15.399
we were out there filming with Scott Walter, some neighbors

1159
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.720
got very upset with us.

1160
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:19.479
Oh wow, I don't know.

1161
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:23.039
I don't want attention drawn to the area, But like

1162
01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:25.920
you said, they're still it's a whole chain of lakes.

1163
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:28.079
It's just it's a long thirty five w I want

1164
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.199
to put me a one last story. I was up

1165
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.560
at the Grand Rapids Bigfoot conference. I met a couple

1166
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.239
up there, and they pulled me aside, and it's like, hey,

1167
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:39.479
we want to tell you a story of it happened

1168
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.920
to us that in those same areas, in that same area,

1169
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.600
right cur and I joined them and sat down and

1170
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.239
they told me about They told me about a story

1171
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:53.800
where he was anxious to get his mountain bike out,

1172
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.640
and so he took it out. He has tires pumped up,

1173
01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:59.600
and he took a little ride and was in March.

1174
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:02.920
It was still very cold out, it's dark, it's like

1175
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.439
eight o'clock at night, and so he takes his ride.

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Where do you think he goes? He goes along there

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some of the trails along these in trafficated lakes, right

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the same white chain, but more towards the south, towards

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the White Bear. In fact, not too far from the

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White Bear at theater. There's some of these lakes and

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ponds and woods. So he's riding his bike and he's

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riding by, here's this big giant splash. He said it

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just sounded like a depth charge splash. So he parked

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his bike and he walked over this pond. He walked

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a little ways from his bike, walked over to the

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pond and he sees what he thinks is like a

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creature crouched down at the ende of the pond, and

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it's reaching down picking up another rock, like a real

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big rock, and flings it at him again. And this

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big thing it goes god doue water flies up and

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of course now he's scared out of his mind. He

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runs back to his bike the byron his bike is

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gone now, bike aken, and he's like, oh crap, what

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do I do? Do I run home? Do I try

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01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:26.039
to look for my bike? And he decided he's like,

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oh my god, it's a long ways, it's cold, I'm

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going to go try to look for my bike. It

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can't be far. Where is it? Am I crazy? And

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he finds it dragged off into the woods a bit

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now where he put it, And he gets out of

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his bike and he high tels out of there. And

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that's his story. It's not real long, but I still

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am planning. I'm planning on this spring, getting a dive

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01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:52.000
team to try to find those rocks. We're planning just

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to kind of shore up his story. Be really cool

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01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:56.920
to you have little divers in there are the water

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01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:01.199
cameras and a little inflammable boat just to find those rocks,

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because he said it was like these were like demp

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charges going off when they hit the water. There were

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big rocks, and of course it takes a big creature

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01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:16.399
to throw big rocks, right. Absolutely, those are the type

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of stories that come out of this strange area.

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It's so awesome. It's incredible all the information is coming

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out of this one interview I did earlier today. But

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I just want to say thank you for taking some

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time out of your busy day and for sharing what

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you experienced and what you've heard from that area of

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01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:38.880
Rice Creek. Doug, and do you mind if you have

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01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.159
a few minutes. I know you've got a lot of

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01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.560
really cool stuff going on, but I want to make

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01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:45.920
sure my listeners are aware of how they can keep

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01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.039
up to date with what you're working on right now.

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Sure can catch me on Wednesday nights on Untold Radio

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01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:59.479
AM on the Untold Radio Network. I'm on Facebook usually

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01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.680
there's is there. I'm working on Legime Science too. It's

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01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:05.960
been a long project with a lot of delays, but

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it keeps getting better and better. We're still shooting and

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01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:13.399
I've been to My next shirt is fair. We're Warry six,

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01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.960
just finished one up and so we're still making great

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progress on the documentary.

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That's exciting to hear. I can't wait until that comes

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out for sure. I'm waiting for it, but I know

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it's going to be awesome. But Doug, thank you so

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much for coming on tonight. I really appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Byron just wanted to take a few minutes to say

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thank you to you all my listeners for listening to

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the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the

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you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or

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know someone who has, please reach out to me at

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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas.

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Number two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number

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three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number

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four any individuals that know about bigfoot being flown off

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after the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five. Individuals that

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have had a bigfoot encounter well in the military. Number

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six those that have had a bigfoot encounter in the

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southern New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

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Number seven. Individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in

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a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight

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individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their house

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forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine individuals that

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have actively have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly,

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any sightings that are in the watchitat National Forest Area

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of Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you to all

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the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your

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support that helps keep the show going and I extremely

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appreciate it. I'll see you back next time. Listeners. SASA

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