Rocky Mountain Local Uncovers Portal Activity Near Estes Park That Explains Colorado’s Chilling Disappearances

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Lindsay today. Lindsay is currently a bank executive, also a listener of the show from out there in Colorado, and she's got some interesting things to share today that she's experienced over the years.

0:45 But welcome to the show, Lindsay, how are you doing? Oh? Very good, Thank you for having me on. I do listen to your show. I've been listening to it for quite a while and I think it's the probably the one show that I find to be credible. And I do, you know, go out of my way to listen to it over TV shows or any big foot stuff. Your show is the one that sticks out to me as the number one show out there. Well, thank you for the kind words. I do appreciate that, and I appreciate you you listening, of course, and and learning all the It's a lot to learn. I learned from every day. But you know, Lindsey, we're going to be talking about a few different areas today, I think.

1:26 But you've got a certain way that you want to present the information, So I feel it'd be great if you know I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to you and feel free to take us back to the beginning of your your story of where we want to start today. Sure, I live right in northern Colorado, which is out right outside the canyon to Estes Park and Rocky Mountain National Forest. Is I live like two miles from Highway thirty four, and that thirty four road goes all the way up to ESAs Park and Rocky Mountain National Forest.

2:08 If you're familiar with the area for a better part of my life, i'd say a good twenty five years. We'll probably even a little more than that. It's called Marianna. But and This is a golf course that is right on the outside of that canyon that goes up thirty four and it's on the foothills there. And again I've been going there for years. And as we progress and I call people, I call them woke. And as we progress through our experience of life, as we for the people that are woke or whatever, we start to see things and notice things differently than people that just it's just an everyday experience to them. So I pull up to the golf course a few years back after I moved away for a few years and then I came back, but I've been here most of my life. So I pull up and there is a statue of these three Indians, and I just found it online where you can actually your viewers can go look at it. It's an Indian statue.

3:20 One is an Indian, an old man holding a feather and some type of a round thing with the like a cross in it, not a cross cross, but like an ex per se. And then the other one is a little girl pointing, and then the lady on the end is holding a rock. And an average person probably wouldn't think twice about that. And when I saw that, I was like after I became woke to the Bigfoot Arena, you could say, I looked at that and I said, you know, that is pointing right up to Rocky Mountain ash forests and to Long's Peak. Long's Peak is right there in that area where all these missing people are.

4:09 People pop up missing up there all the time and they never find them. They're just gone and very strange, weird. Every year people are missing and weird things happening up there. And if you research it or listen to Dave Plaidi's he he's he used to live over in northern Colorado. But that that pointing thing, you know, it stuck out to me and I, you know, I've been golfing over there over all those years. Well, I had a concussion for several months and I couldn't golf all summer. So I thought, now I'm feeling better, let me go golfing.

4:51 I go out there and I this is again hugs the It hugs the the mountain there in the in the very close to that canyon. And I go down the first fairway and I drive him the cart by myself. I kind of golf by myself. So I started to go and I looked down and I saw a rock stack on top of a tree stump. And I said to myself, Oh, that's just some kids or some people put that there, and then that that doesn't mean anything. And then I just kept going to the next fairway, and I thought about it and thought about it. So when I got home that night, I looked up rock stacks, and I know all about these rock stacks are type of bigfoot. I already I'm already privy to that. So I said, there's something weird about that. Why do I think that's bigfoot? Because it is. It's not in town.

5:53 It's on the foothills there. Town is further away. And I was like, go look up rock stacks on top of tree stumps, and then I found it there. It was all these different photos of in the mountains where these rock stacks are standing on top of the tree stump. And I thought, and I also thought, those rocks are heavy. Why would someone there's no rocks like that around here. This is a it's a golf course, and there's a bunch of houses all around the golf courses. There's no big bouldery rocks like that. And I was like, that stood out to me, why would somebody go to the trouble of lifting this heavy rock. It wasn't like a little mini stack where a little kid or somebody just stack up some rocks. It was a big boulder at the bottom of it. And so I left and I went back. A week later someone knocked that rock stack down and it was very strange. I'm almost almost afraid to tell you this. A few days ago, I think it was Friday. That I live, you know, a good fifteen miles from that area. But I live out in the country. Though I don't live in town. I live out in the country, and I kind of park in the same area, you know, for example, for five years, I come out there and I look. I look. I

7:25 pulled my car up and I looked, and I went, what is that rock stack doing there? Somebody had taken these rocks and made a line out of them, and I said, where are those rocks from? These big heavy rocks? And this whole area is it's like a hill and it's cut off, like nobody goes up there. It's just like this mini hill and the other side of that is a golf course. By the way, this is kind of weird. So I went in. I said, this is really weird. So I went in and I asked the manager. She's a friend of mine. I go, hey, Rebecca, start rock thing out there? Where did that did some did you guys hire someone to mow? Or it's wintertime now, they're not mowing anymore in Colorado winter started a couple of weeks ago. So she goes, I don't know what that is, but the city owns half of it. We own half of it, and it just kind of sits there, dormant.

8:19 And I said, I've never seen the lawnmarer men up there. She goes, no, they don't go up there. I said, what's that big rock stack thing out there? She goes, I don't know, but that's been there. It started two weeks ago. And every day I come in and park and come to work, somebody adds a rock. Like every day there's a new rock. I said, you don't know who's doing it. Those are big, heavy boulders. They're heavy, they're not little. She goes, no, I don't I don't know what that what's going on over there? And I just thought to myself that that seems incredibly strange, that that is my story for the rock stack.

8:59 I have a question about the rockstack real quick. Yeah, yeah, were these rocks where let's say a normal let's say normal size human being well or human of any size, would they have been able to stack these rocks, do you think? Or were they much much bigger? No? They to me, I could physically pick them up if I wanted to. But I would say those rocks are probably like if you tried to lift them, they were probably fifty pounds. The bottom one was a big boulder. So it's like, you know, I'm not trying to sound weird, but the average human out there, they're golfing, they live out there, they're a little pretentious. They're not gonna lift these big heavy thing and sticking out. I just there's no boulders, Like it's a pristine neighborhood, pristine golf course.

10:02 And I was like, where did those rocks come from? Where those boulders come from? So down on the other side there there is a river bed. So yeah, there's a river bed, and it's not close. It's on the other side of the fairways or that area that I'm at was at. There is another side down there on the other side of the back fairways, like nine through eighteen. There's a river. Yeah, I'm sure those rocks probably came from over there, But an average Joe isn't gonna pick up a rock, in my opinion, a big heavy one sticking on their golf curtain too. It over there. And the key to me, I wouldn't even be on the phone with you when I found out that this a lot of bigfoot stuff is on on these tree stumps that's right there. I was like, they put them on tree stumps? Why do they do that? And I thought you had a call Jeremiah, contact him and see if he'll do a show about They these first these rock stamp staying stacks they have where they make long lines of rocks, like the ones that are in front of my car. And then they they make these tpe things that are made out of logs, and they trees, and they make these tpe looking things they make. They've been the trees. And the other one is they make these big x's. You know, I've seen a lot of that

11:34 in the bigfoot stuff. So they're communicating, and I don't know what their communication means, though, stay out of my area, this is my zone, or I have no idea what this stuff means. But if you were standing this is another interesting thing. If you were standing at the three Indians, the Indian girl is pointing to Essas Park to Rocky Mountain National Forests, right, and the rock stack is in the exact if you took a ruler and and you know, measured it all a line, a straight line. That's probably a better way of putting it. A straight line. That rock stack is on the line. Does that make good?

12:20 Yeah? Absolutely absolutely yeah. And I was like, whoa, that's just creepy, is you know? And then I was walking around looking on the ground for foots. You know, do you see any footprints in the ground the rock and we have had a very dry, dry summer, very dry, and that rock that that dirt is super dry over there, it's like super dry. So that's you know, when you're like, did you see any footprints or any kind of anything like that. So I decided it was all not normal. It's it is very weird. And it's one of those things like I'm not sure how I feel about it yet, but I will tell you I've also experienced weird rock stack stuff. It doesn't really come up a lot on the show, but like I can one in particular, I can share with you. This happened actually this year in July, when I was out in the mount Hood National Forest and we're way way out in the woods, extremely far out in the woods, and we find this area, this muddy area, and me and the gentleman that I'm with, researcher in the area, he's showing me where he's spent about thirty years researching. We find a handprint, a ten inch acrossed handprint in the mud. And we find it's

13:50 almost like a weird tool station because there's ferns that are picked and then stacked. Alternating, there's piles mud. There's about a half a foot long piece of bark that had been torn off a tree and then was upside down with mud on top of it. But then around this area there's these piles of rocks. Now these one we're smaller rocks, but it was so far out that it's just the weird thing. But I've also another example of a weird rock thing is an oakridge. We go up to this meadow and there's a stump in the middle of a meadow, and I mean it's it's the stump height is probably a it's about four four and a half five feet off the ground, and there's this rock on it that is massive. I mean it's at least fifty sixty pounds, and it's like something would have had to just bear hug it and just throw it up there. It's been up there now for two years, and so I think those are just things that I've experienced personally. I've heard other stories where people are out in the woods they find a huge boulder that's on top of two arch trees that's holding it down. And so there's other examples of like potential bayfaat interactions with

15:21 weird large rocks, and I mean that's not even to mention. Sometimes they're taking large rocks and throwing it at people too, right. Right right, And that's the Indian holding the rock. Back to the area the Mariana Butte. There is a lady Indian holding a boulder in her hand, and then the little girls pointing to the. Area of rocking mounts first, and then the other one is the Indian with the weird X and is like a jewelry thing he's holding. And yeah, that throwing rocks at people, Like why would they put an Indian up there? Holding a rock, big rock. I was like, this is all this says Bigfoot.

16:06 It's very interesting. I wonder if there's some story behind it. Maybe somebody knows, or maybe I found a picture of it. It is a very cool picture, so I'll make sure, you know, people can check that out too see it. But it is cool, yeah, definitely holding what looks to be a rock, for sure, and then the other individual is holding like a feather. It's very cool. Yeah. And if people want to take the time to look up Rocky Mountain National Forest, as is park Long's Peak right up there. All these people are missing all the time. Sometimes they find them, sometimes they never find them. They're gone without a trace. And when I first moved back here, I had just gotten back here within a couple of weeks, a very short amount of time. So his name was Josh Hall. He was up there in this area that we're talking about, and he just popped up and I was here when this was actually live happening. So he came up missing, and of course you know that they're pretty good in Colorado especially it is a touristy place, and they sent people up there to search for him.

17:23 The search teams were up there. They've got pretty good in my opinion, they've got good search teams in Colorado in particular because of the tourism and all that. But anyway, he in the mountains and all this, but he was gone for months without a trace. The already been searched over and over, and then that summer he came up missing in like October, and then summertime months had gone by and then he popped up. But the weird part they found him. And then the weird part about that story too, is he had a dog was with him. His dog was named la Is off my memory. And the dog was found up there, you know that sc park, Rocky Mountain Force, up on a road up there and twenty miles away. Within days of Josh being missing, and then they found his dog miles and miles away, and I was like, oh, that dog went through a Portal's that's all that went through my mind. I said, that dog went through a portal into story and then he got separated from Josh. But there is a lot of like I said, if people take the time to look they're missing, there's a lot of normal people go up there and they fall and it's very dangerous I'd longspeak up there right outside of Essens Park and Rocky Mountain National Force that those are very dangerous areas. I understand

18:56 there's going to be a certain amount of people that didn't have croppery equipment, their signs everywhere, how dangerous it is. I understand that part that there's gonna be a statistical amount of people that are gonna fall or different things. But then there's the missing and gone like Josh gone for months. The area has been looked at over and over and over. Very strange events happening up there all the time. This area is also the famous little Boy Jared and Polities did a one of his movies. I think it was his first Missing four one one. Uh, he had the little Boy Jared. This is what got me all involved in all this because that wasn't far from four Collins. So I had a house over there for eighteen years and Jared was like three years old, and these people told his dad they lived up in the mountains. He owned like a convenience store way up there the Pewter Canyon, and they were, yeah, let me take Jared and you're a little girl, for we're going to go over to this fishery thing. And then they did that, and then they all decided, without getting his permission, to take the little boy up a trail, and they took him up a trail of three years old, and he was just straddling with people. He didn't have one person looking out for him, and all of a sudden, Jared's missing, gone without a trace. And that's what got me involved in hours and hours of researching what happened

20:31 to Jared, and none of the stories made sense. And then that's what made me get highly involved in the Bigfoot thing. That's one of the reasons. And then I for a short time lived in Missouri. I lived out in the woods in Missouri for like a year, and I never believed in Bigfoot. I really didn't believe in Bigfoot. And I always thought Jared had been taken by a person or the people, you know, were not honest about what happened with the little boy. I never believed Bigfoot got little Jarrett the whole time. Years, twenty years went by.

21:11 But then when I lived in Kansas City, it wasn't the city, it was the outskirt there of the woods there, which was on the state line of Kansas by the way out in the woods. Then I started having all these bigfoot experiences. I didn't even believe in bigfoot. These experiences were happening, and I was oblivion. I had no idea what was going on. And then one day the sun was going down and my friend was in the backyard and the neighbor was kind of out on the porch. It was summary time, and we heard this giant growl and it echoed like it was this major noise and it echoed like you couldn't believe the sound of and it was scary and we didn't know what it was.

22:01 And then we came in the house. The son went down. We came in the house and my friend was like, uh yeah, let me go look that up. So she's like, I go, it's probably an animal. You know, it's it's nothing, no big deal, It's probably an animal. She came in the house, she goes to these people in Canada that recorded the exact same noise and she's like, come here, listen it is And it was a bigfoot. And after that, you know, then I started piecing together all the weird like the tree knocking. There would be a knock like in the middle the day I'd sit out there and kind of work or take breaks from my job, and then I'd hear tree knocking, you know, real loud, and then i'd hear a branch break, and then you're the human mind goes, oh, that was a deer. Adult I always see a deer about there. That was a deer.

22:53 I mean, you you do not rationalize what it is. I had no idea until the growling event happened. And then another time I was I'm up on a porch on the second level of this backside of the house, and there was the neighbor next door to the left of me, and this dog went up to in the middle of the day, went up to the fence and was staring at something and nothing was there. And this is back when I'm still pretty clueless about the bigfoot in the woods back there. And so the dog had his tail bent and he was just not wagging his tail.

23:40 He has his tail bent and just staring at something. I was like, I knew his name at the time. I forgot his name now, but I was like, are you okay, what are you looking at? You know? And there's nothing there? And that those are some of the noise things that happened. Then another time I was looking at big noises and stuff like that, and then there were these people there out in the woods that like, this is a bigfoot noise. And it sounded like where they would these wooden things and you'd rub a stick on it, it would make a noise. I don't know what you're talking about, Yeah, yep, but yeah, and it sounded like that. And so these people like, this is bigfoot and we're scared. We're going back home. And I was like, what's a weird noise? You know? So I go outside one afternoon and there's within days of watching that video, this is really creepy. So I start hearing.

24:34 And I've been there for I lived at this house for a year. I'd never heard that noise before until I heard it on the YouTube. So I hear it. And then I'm living with my friend and her husband. They're trained engineers, they're never home. So anyway, Spencer comes home one day and I said, hey, do you know what this noise is? Because he grew up there and in Missouri, I said, do you know what this noise is? He goes and he hunts, and everything's not that he is now I don't know what that noise is. I go, it's in the backyard. Did I don't know what that is. I've never heard it in my life. And I was like, this weird stuff like that would happen, and I guess I can say that. After that, I've believed in Bigfoot.

25:18 And then the neighbor next door when the growling thing happened, I said, Chris, do you know what that noise is? He goes, Oh, it's it's there's a neighborhood on the way back side of these woods. There's probably a dog. There's a dog back there named Lucy. And I said, huh. You know, I just was like, that wasn't a dog, but if it makes him happy. So about a week later, this dog is smell meute was lost and Chris and I are trying to catch it. It's the dog named Lucy. Chris and I are, you know, hanging out there trying to get Lucy. Next thing, you know, the lady walks around, walking around the neighborhood looking for a dog. I go, are you looking for your dog Lucy? Because yeah, I said, Chris, how's your dog? We just got your dog a few minutes ago. She goes, oh, thanks, I go, can I ask you a weird question? This is really creepy? Is this is so creepy? She goes, I go, we heard this giant growl last Sunday about four point thirty the sun was going down. Did you hear that weird echoing, loud, roaring growl? She says no. I said, well, Chris said it was your dog. She goes, that wasn't my dog.

26:24 I go, I know that, but you know, I just it's so weird because me and my roommate here think it's bigfoot. And as she stopped and she goes, do you want me to tell you a story? And I go, well, yeah, yeah, what's the story? She goes When Mike, she goes, we've lived back here when they built that neighborhood back there, we were one of the first houses back there. This was all nothing, no houses or nothing. I said, yeah, okay. She goes, well, my kids were like three and four years old. They were really little. They got side and play all the time. Who you know? And I said yeah, And she goes, one day the boys came in and she had two boys, like three or four little They come in. They said, mommy, we're not going outside anymore by ourselves. And she said why and they said, because Bigfoot's out there and he wants to get us. I said, what do they know about Bigfoot? Did they see a movie or some She goes, no, they never sign any movies about Bigfoot. But from that time until they were fully grown, you know, even age ten twelve, she goes, they would never go out there by their self. They were that petrified of this so called Bigfoot. And I was like wow. And then I would say about a year ago, I went back out there to visit my friends because I moved to Colorado, and my friends called

27:56 me and like, hey, guess what one of the neighbors has over here. I don't know. They said, they made a big Foot statue. It's like twelve foot tall. It's in their front yard. I go, why, I said, I thought you didn't believe in Bigfoot. I thought there was any bigfoots in your woods over there, and they go, I don't know, but they made a big Foot statue. So when I went to visit there, it was in the front yard, and I, you know, I really wanted Time was tight for me, but I would have loved to knock on the door and go, why do you have a big foot in your front yard or here. There's got to be more stories in those neighborhoods, you know. But it's out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, it's out of the middle of nowhere. It secluded. It's you're out in the dang woods out there, and it's by a state line, which is there's a river that goes through there and all that. And Dave Pilattis likes to talk about there's always rivers and water nearby. So like that Marianna Butte golf course, like I said, on the other side, the backside of that golf course. Yeah, the river comes down from the canyon and goes through there. There is a river over there.

29:05 So was this north of Kansas City. Then it was like I think there's a little town called park Parksville. Yeah, it was on the If you're on the west, the northwest side of the city, you know, it would be a good forty minute drive to get to the city. You're out in the woods over there. Yeah, I'm that's that's really interesting because that is definitely let's see northwest of Kansas City on the border Missouri rivers right there, Like you were saying, yes, yep, yep, and I mean definitely north of Kansas City. I've had tons of reports. There's even a place, let's see where it is. It's called Monkey Mountain that's north of Kansas City too.

30:02 There's a lot of sightings. When I did my bigfoot look, there's certain people that made a sightings report thing, and I went in there and looked at that and there was a lot of and on the other side of that river over there. So now you're in the state of Kansas and there was a police officer that did a report. He goes, yep, we was over here, and I'm a police officer or sheriff, whatever the heck. And he was like on the other side of that river and had a bigfoot report that he filed. Oh so he he got the report or it happened there, he. Made the report, made it happened to him. It happened to him. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. But so you but you did move back to Colorado recently. It sounds like yeah, okay, yeah, so.

30:52 I moved back here about five years ago. Back in Colorado. Have you become involved with trying to to look into places out there that there have been lots of sightings or or try to do any research out there. I do research and stuff from my computer, but to go out and thump around out there. I don't know how to say this, but I'm I'm like, I used to be an avid hiker and go hiking out middle of nowhere when I was a kid. Like when I was twenty one years old, I lived in Boulder, and I'd go out in the middle of nowhere and up in those areas that I was just telling you about Rocky Mountain National Force. I would go out in middle of nowhere by myself all the time, and I didn't have anything to protect me, like you know, if someone attacked me a human or a bear or whatever, and I was I wasn't afraid of Bigfoot. Now I'm I'm like, I'm not going up in the mountains by myself. I'm gonna be with people. I have no desire. That's how freakously weird I am about Bigfoot. It's creepy to have to feel that way, because I'm like, no, I don't want to be around any areas that Bigfoot's gonna mess with me. There's a lot of sightings around here, especially up that canyon. There's a lot of sightings. Just a few months back, there was a lady in Longmont that again, this hugs the mountain right so that back road goes

32:23 to Boulder, it's it's in, it hugs the mountains. And this lady said it was late at night and she saw a bigfoot. And so, you know, I just think that these things are like all over the place where I don't have any desire to go hiking. But if I go hiking, I'll only go in areas there full of people, or I won't go. I know that sounds weird or you know, sounds kind of crazy to say I'm afraid of Bigfoot. I don't want to bump into him. Well, I think it makes sense. I know it's real. You're especially you know, well versed and like missing for on one cases, especially ones around you, And if you think, you know, Bigfoot is probably responsible for a lot of those, I can definitely understand the way that you feel about that.

33:16 Do you have any ideas about any certain thoughts about what you think Bigfoot is? Yeah, I'm glad that you asked that because I've had so many hours of research of Bigfoot and stories and just connecting the I believe Bigfoot, and I just saw the trailer of Dave Plati's has a new movie coming out on some er first and right before your call, you and I got on the phone. I was like, let me look at Dave's thing. But they start talking about this subject that you're talking about. And I believe that Bigfoot has technology that humans are not aware of, Like they have some type of a a equipment. I believe it's equipment, and they have this equipment that can make them invisible. And that was on his trailer, by the way, just a few minutes ago I saw. But I do believe they're inner dimensional creatures, and I do believe they are I believe in some weird way whatever you want to call it. I believe they're a form of like a demonic type of I don't I see a lot of people make videos and stuff about Bigfoot and he's nice, and he's he's our friend, and they're misunderstood creatures. I don't feel that way about Bigfoot at all.

34:50 I feel that when I heard that growl or roar, whatever you want to call it, that would make you know your hair scan up on the back of your neck, just I did not feel like, oh I love Bigfoot, let me drop him a box of gifts. You know, there's people that give them gifts that like, please don't eat me, here's a gift. But I feel like it's a demonic kind of a thing. It's it's to me, and it's able to go through dimensions and stuff. And I do believe in portals, and I do believe that a lot of these missing people just go through these.

35:31 They grab them and they take them through these portals and they are just vanished. You know. Do I feel like the government conspiracy stuff? I would say, I would say anything's possible. But do I feel like they have a purpose out there? Yeah, I believe they have some type of a purpose. They're real and there's not a few. I believe they're all over the world, and there's thousands of them and all these weird missing people's stories. And do I believe that they kind of can communicate to each other, like on a demonic inner dimensional level. Because I'm over in you know, Missouri, I had that weird experiences.

36:20 I feel like in some way, you know, they do kind of follow people. I've seen. There was some lady she was being terrorized. She left the state, packed up and went to a completely different state, and she's being terrorized again. It was like almost like a ghost that follows these people in some of those ghost stories, or the demon follows the person. I don't even know what I'm trying to say, but they they're being followed. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, I think it's Yeah. There's like two I feel like in the community right now. There's at least two different ways to look at that. One is like the hitchhiker effect, where you go in to an area and then something follows you home and then you're trying to get rid of it.

37:04 Yeah. The other thing that I would say right now is that you go to an area that is really charged up and very active, and then that kind of unlocks something in you so that you're able when when you're anywhere, things are more aware that you're around or or it's Doctor Simon Hin explains it a whole lot better, and I need to go and listen to my own interview with him a few more times. But it is very strange. There's another way, definitely to look at the whole hitchhiker effect, and I don't think, yeah, I don't know if there's a right answer quite yet. But do you have any when you were talking about portals and and things like that, do you have any good examples of situations that involve portals that come to mind?

38:02 I personally don't, but I I just in all my research, I believe these portal things. Like when that little boy Jared came up missing. They said that in Colorado Springs, which is miles away southern Colorado, that a man had a little boy walking that just that people described that little kid as Jared. They're like, oh, well, that's the little boy that was missing. It happened at the same missing, so that would deem a normal person. That would be impossible. But if if he was taken through a portal, you know what I'm trying to say, Jared be in Colorado Springs if he went through portals. So I believe in those portals like that God Lucky, all that weird stuff, and even that little boy. Jared's dad is on record on video saying if you I did hours and hours research on Jared, and there was a guy that approached him and said, hey, I independently want to help you, and he goes yeah, you know, there's something that right about covering something up and I can't put my finger on it. With the city or the people that were involved with trying to help him find Jared, and he didn't feel good about the way that whole search was conducted and everything. So this guy came to me independently.

39:31 He said, I'm going to go look, do you have some closed or something that has a scent. I'm going to go up there myself. And this was after they took the barricades down because nobody was allowed to go up there and that upset his dad as well. And so they guy goes up there and goes down the trail. The dog is going, you know, down the trail, you know, smells Jared and then poof, he gets up to a ridge or like a hill hill, a big hill that Jared could never climb. He's three years old. And he said, the very strange thing was, and this is back when I thought humans took him, you know, get up to the saying the dog did and he goes, this is my twenty thirty foot high up. Jared could never have gone up there, and that's where the dog stopped. And he goes, I don't know what to think of this, So that as time progressed, these hikers went up there, way up and found Jared's close tour turned inside out, turned inside out, and then found a some bones. But the guy goes, I don't even know if these are my son. I don't even know if this is real.

40:45 He goes, I don't know about that. And the interesting thing about these portals that I'm hell bent on, uh, you know the movie The Terminator, when they went through the One of my friends was one of the creators of Turned Dominator, the digital side of things, like, and they would put they put the you know, the Terminator one or the Terminator two or Kyle if you watch any of this series, they would go through the portal and they would they would go through naked because the clothes wouldn't stay on them, right, So a lot of that, a lot of people find their clothes not on them.

41:26 They find their shoes and their clothes, and like, when they find their clothes turned inside out because they went through the portal, their clothes just whipped up, I don't know a good word, whipped up and they go through the portal. Yeah, it's just very very interesting. And then there was a lady that was up up that same canyon. She followed a bigfoot port, the same thing the police officer in Kansas did. She was up there and she said they heard a crying and they're like, what her baby crying? You know, they're up there. They're in a little log cabiny rental thing and they go up and her husband goes, oh, my back is really killing me.

42:13 I'm just gonna sit here. And she goes up and there's a big fit up there, and she she keeps hearing a baby crying. She goes up there and she said she got pinged by this electronic thing that hits your ear and it makes you lose your and it just makes you lose your familiar or what what look for you're bearing where you are? Yeah, so yeah, So he she's talking to him on a walkie talkie thing and she's like, oh, I don't, I can't. I don't know where you are. Something happened, and so he started beating rocks together and she found her husband and they got loud of there. Well, I hear a lot of weird stories about again. I take the demonic approach where it sounds like a woman and saying help me, help me, or babies crying, and you stop and got that person leave the trail. Because I'm a hiker, you stay on the trail. Why would you not stay on the trail.

43:19 It's just the first question. Why would you not stay on the trail? Or you leave the trail for two minutes and take a picture over there by the little river and you come back to the trail. I think people are, you know, going down these trails and they hear a one or a baby crying, help me, and they leave the trail and then poof, they're gone. And another thing that Poliiti talks about all the time is they're usually isolated people. There are people that are alone. They're usually not in groups. Yeah, I popped up at the back of the you know they're going and the guide you know, uh, they're all together and the person in the back. But I think they're more isolated where they can grab you know, the child or the person.

44:12 And children are easy targets because they're little. I mean, just grab them. Poof, they're gone. And I wanted to say before I forget that Davlofs passed. I spent hours and hours and hours researching that it was. I mean, I maybe I should have gotten to this. So many hours I poured into that story. And they were up there and before all that incident happened to them, they had pictures of a rock stack and then they've taken pictures and they had a picture of a big foot and the thing. And then when I was watching, I was like, you know that's fake or that's I don't I don't even know that's bigfoot, but it's supposed to be Bigfoddy looks like a bigfoot. And I was always call And then those people just popped up. They're no longer you know. There was a massive something bad happened when they were in their tents. If you know dav last story, do you know that story? Yeah, And that ties into this part of that story about a thousand miles away from that location where these people up in the mountains and all all were up like it's the top of the mountain. All of a sudden they all, okay, something happened were they they're no longer with us? And there was one lady or she was a young girl,

45:44 you know, in her teenage ears. She wasn't little, but say teenager or twenty the guy grabbed her and threw her and he goes, stay still, don't move, don't move, you don't move, don't move, just go over there and don't move. And she's the only one that made And that was a super huge cover up, that story right there, And that all leads into another story I heard the other day. I and several years back, I started watching The Bigfoot, the sleep Foot, Colorado, and he had a picture of his friend sitting on the log. So this lady said they went. They were they were out in the middle of the woods, out in the middle of nowhere, and that she saw this white bigfoot. It was white and and in my mind I was like, I think those are the leaders of the klan, those white ones.

46:46 And so she said they stayed the night and she was afraid. She didn't want to be there, but the hike was really far. They were out in the middle of nowhere, and she said she got her in her sleeping back and her other two friends there was a little group of them, saw this thing turn into a ghostly thing and went in that same white bigfoot and entered her body. They saw this, and she said then she was trying to, you know, go over to a cliff and she lost her mind, you know, like on the cliff, and they stopped, they grabbed her and stopped her from falling off the cliff. And I was like, you know, you know, this just all goes in my mind.

47:33 I'm like, oh, this just goes right back to dad last past where those people were psycho scared and they they were they were like crying on the This is all documented. They were clying on the trees to get up and out and away from something, and they left all their shoes at the ten. They took a knife on the inside of the tent and cut their way out to get off that area really quick, and I mean all hell broke out and they they the government was like hushed it up. And then this is just like three to four years ago. This is really creepy, creepy.

48:20 So while I'm watching this doing my research and spending hours and hours and hours, you know, doing this, there was a group of people with This is all within weeks of me doing that, and I can remember it was like, oh, look at the calendar. This all happened to Devlos Pass right around the time that I was doing the research. Y weird stuff, right, So there was a group of kids, collegey kids is my best memory, went up there to do a memorial for that, and they disappeared to this day, gone gone. It's pretty weird, isn't it. There research on it. Yeah gone. You know when the first batch of kids popped up, you know the first incident of Davlov's past. All the people went bananas.

49:19 The people went bananas. They were all getting together. What happened to them? They were all upset and I mean to me, the government, I really hate to use that word on here. And then this is like Russia or whatever. These kids disappeared without a trace, and that was it. Hush hush, hushed, and just don't talk about this where they go. This is just a few years ago. And it was around the memorial date, is why they went up there. They were doing this little memorial date thing and and I just remember the pictures of the rock stacks and I was like, when I saw that rock stack, I swear I wouldn't have even called you, but I I was like, just just something mate, right about that.

50:05 I wonder if they put these rock stacks on top of tree stumps, and when it was on the tree sump, poof I found it all over the internet. I was like, I got a call to Remiah. There's way more bad stuff then they want people to know about the big Foot thing. He's not our friend. I literally am looking to move to a new place, and I'm like, well, whatever you do, don't live out in the country. And what the irony was. I was looking at houses out there and Marianna, but I was like, I might want to live out there, And I said, if you had a house and you were living out there and you saw that rock stack, what would happen? They two house for sale, loading up my stuff, getting the heck out of there, never live there.

50:53 It's one of those subjects where there's so many ways to look at it, so much information you could just you could dive into it forever. But I'm just curious. Have you been out to the Sasquatch out Post in Bailey at all? No? No, what is that? Oh? It's pretty much like the Bigfoot Museum slash gift shop for Colorado and Bailey. You should check it out. Wow? Yeah, No, I didn't. Bailey, Bailey, Colorado. Okay, Okay, you are Captain Dick Tracy. You show up and you're like you fly. I was telling my friends about you last night. I was like, you fly all over the United States. You go in and you meet with people, and there you are, you know, and I think you're like Especially the younger crowd or the millennials, they want people like you. They don't want to read books.

51:53 I don't know how to say this in a politically correct way. They want to see movies. They want to see streamlines where Dave's got his great movies go, which is great. But I feel like you're you're more younger, and you're on it and you show up and I feel like you are really more millennial material. I think you're at a whole different angle. And I can't stand and watch the big Foot TV shows. They're dumber than you know, they're They're just stupid. Oh there's a Bigfoot show. We're gonna go out in the woods in the dark and call out to him and we're gonna make whooping noises. Nobody wants to watch that. They want to hear real live encounters. Like what you do is you're out there beating the bush, meeting people that have had experiences.

52:44 I appreciate the kind of red that's kind of what I'm going for when I go out there is I try to go to places where I can talk to people, get their story and give them a place to talk. And sometimes you have to go like out to Oregon or next year, I'm going to see I'm going to Oklahoma, ore again next year, So going to places right so it'll be it'll be pretty sweet. There'll be a lot of chances to hopefully talk to some people, So looking forward to it, and you know, hopefully you'll be hearing those on the podcast next year as well.

53:25 I think real quick. The other thing I think real quick is there's a lot of people that have had crazy Bigfoot stories, but they are afraid. To come out in public. And I was like, listening to the Dave Plicing, I was like, you know, and I think they are inter dimensional creatures and I think they're demons. And then when I was listening to his his trailer right before I start talking, you listen to Jeremiah because the people think you're crazy, And I was like, why. It was just on David Pliti's show that day, these people. He was saying, they think they're interdimensional creature. He was defining what people think they are. People some people think they are, some people think they're not. But you know, there's a lot of people that are afraid and they're not going to come on a show and talk because especially a live show where people can interact with them and attack them and who knows what. But people don't want people to think they're crazy or and they don't want to get on here and feel threatened or they think they're crazy. And I'll end it with my last thing to say. Roseanne Barr said this several years ago.

54:36 She goes, we're living in an age and a time, and she's very bright. I really think she's very bright. She said, we're living in a time where super intelligent people are called crazy, people deem them as crazy. And she goes, and the people that are calling them crazy are the dumbest people on earth. She's like, I'm paraphrasing, but she's just basically saying that people they're super intelligent and all that are deemed as crazy. And that's been throughout history, right all throughout history. When people would discover things or learn things and know things, other people are like, you're crazy.

55:21 Oh, absolutely good. It goes against the status quo, you know, as we kind of alluded to a few times already, and eventually people realize, you know, what's actually true and what actually isn't. So I think that's that's a great way to wrap things up. But you know, Lindsey, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing what you've experienced. But we also had a great chat about some things that we might not be able to we might not talk a lot about on the show, but I think it's it's good we talked about them. And I'd say if people listening have examples of stories that you don't have to do with portals, maybe people experiencing portals and then telling the story, definitely share those down in the comments. Would love to look into those.

56:06 But thank you so much for coming on the show today. I appreciate it, Lindsey. Thank thank you, thank you for having me and being such a gentleman. And I really love your show, and again I think it's the top show out there. And I would say your show is the top show to me, and then the next show would be Dave Poliiti's and then TV and all that other stuff. I never watched that stuff, but I know your show has the capability if you ever had a TV show. I think it would do good. Yeah, I turned it down. I'm not gonna that's another story, but it's not really what I'm wanting to do. But I appreciate you hanging out, and yeah, this has been a good chat. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

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