Sasquatch Apocalypse at Fort Lewis and all I had was BLANKS.

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All right, Bigfat Society. We've
got the privilege of talking to Kevin

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tonight. Kevin's from the Seattle,
Washington area. Many different hats, aerospace

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engineer, background, Air Force veteran. Also, he's got a great YouTube

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channel, remote cabin radio. We'll
talk more about that later. But Kevin,

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how are you doing today? Sir? Oh my gosh, I'm going

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and awesome. It is an honor
to be here on your show, my

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favorite show in the Sasquatch Realm.
It's great. Seattle as cloudy and beautiful

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as normal. Been great, fantastic. You've reached out to me, and

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you've got some really interesting things in
your background that have to do with bigfoot

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and also some military connections. Really
wanted to jump right into that and feel

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free to paint a picture of what
you've experienced over the years. It sounds

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really fascinating. Okay, just a
little bit about my background as a SEAMA

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thirty load master. I did my
seer training at at Fairchild Air Force Base.

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Anyone that's been out to Spokane,
it was that the famous incident with

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a B fifty two cartwheeled unfortunately into
the tarmac out there during an air show.

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But it's got a rich history of
bigfoot sidings sasquatch depending on who I

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don't want to offend. Yeah,
when we're doing a sear training, you'd

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hear crazy things out there in the
mountains, and if anyone that's in through

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it knows that you don't want to
do it in the winter, but you'll

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hear certain things out there at times
of the year that That's not my two

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stories, but that was just the
initial bigfoot sounds when I knew something was

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up. I didn't know what it
was, but it didn't sound natural.

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And as far as Air Force goes, I deployed as many times as I

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could overseas after September eleventh, seeing
thirty AirLand operations. You would not believe

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you can see with actual night vision
glasses. I'm not talking about the thermal

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spread spectrum kind. If you want
to see bigfoot or sasquatch or anything weird

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out there, you need the real
foster or the green or white fossh MVG's.

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They're more expensive, but you pay
for That's really as far as I

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think as relevant with the Air Force
connection. After that, I did Boeing

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for seven years as a weight and
balance engineer that certified many of the flight

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test aircraft, the heavies. I
want to be specific. I had nothing

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to do with the smaller airframes,
and I'm making that apparent for various reasons.

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What's going on in the news,
But the new Air Force one airframes,

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my name might be on that air
worthiness ticket. Hypothetically, let's see

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seven eighty seven certified a few of
the tankers. Moving on from Boeing,

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then I became a commercial diver,
which is like a redneck astronaut. The

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closest thing you could do to becoming
an astronaut is a commercial diver. And

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my gosh, the remoteness of some
of those dams and the places as a

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commercial diver, which also leads into
compressed airwork, which is something else I

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do. In tunnel boring diving operations
is where you're pressed down to let's say

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three to four bar depending on the
depth. There's an equalized pressure barrier that

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you back off the tunnel boring head
and it creates a little pocket and you

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can work on the tunnel boring device. If you hear any cracks, remember

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this, if you hear any cracks
like broken glass, jump back into that

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chamber because it's about to let go
and you're going to be a pancake.

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But since I did that, I'm
still doing that off and on when I

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find choice assignments. And I'm also
a Certified Diver Medical Technician, which is

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like an EMT but for divers.
And on the side, I'm working on

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a veterans project for mental health awareness
called Lecric Sky Ranch over in the Shelane

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area, which ties into one of
my Bigfoot stories and remote cabin Radio dot

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com so that's probably the cliff notes. I'm skipping a lot of stuff,

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but I don't want to bore anybody
with it. Back to you, Jeremiah,

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absolutely incredible. I don't know if
you listen to the Sean Ryan Show

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ever. Absolutely yeah, I love
Okay, I love the Sean Ryan Show.

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Just I've never been a military guy, but I started listening to those

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and I'm like, oh my goodness, this is fascinating, this seal stuff.

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So Alice felt like I was slipping
into that a little bit when I

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was listening to the Tie. It's
just it's a fascinating world that I was

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not able to be a part of
because of some medical things in my past.

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It's just hats off to you for
all the different things you were able

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to to be involved with and still
are involved with being there. I don't

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want to I don't sorry about that. I again, I joined the Air

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Force. As for the military,
my hat's off to those guys. You

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know, sometimes we didn't even have
room service, and our you know,

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our uniforms only sent away to be
pressed. I mean there was like creases

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and stuff like that, and many
times our hotels didn't have catch up.

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It was horrific. Being deployed to
receives was horrific, sir. So we're

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all part of Rome. We're all
part of it. That's the way I

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look at it. Absolutely served or
not, we're all serving. You had

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mentioned you went something somewhere for training, and you said, sir, SCR

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training, is that correct s E
R E Survive, Evade, Resist,

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escapes, SEAR training. It like
anyone that some people that deploy or like

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flyers will go through seer training.
It seals definitely. I was just a

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cargo cowboy and I was never like
a tactical operator. And I knew those

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guys some quite well, but I
didn't have what it took to be something

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like that. So I just I
really have a love for aviation, but

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those guys are on a completely different
level, different level from me. Absolutely,

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It definitely definitely paints the picture of
your background. Kevin. Let's let's

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jump right in and Okay, so
my first account actually takes place in the

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Lake Shelan area. I don't want
to say exactly where, but I mean,

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let's just say I'm in high school, That's really what it was,

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and with a couple buddies of mine
and I had a forerunner with super smampers.

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I don't know if you're your audience
or you're familiar with super smampers,

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big knobby tires. So we used
to like off rooting is so much fun.

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It was like a key component to
my adolescents. And we were out

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there at night, off roading,
maybe popping off a few rounds, shooting

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cans, drinking oat sodas or diet
cokes, asterisk there. And again I

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don't condone any sort of thing like
that now orever, but that's what we

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were doing. We had a couple
of sodas, and so we're off roading

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around the mountains of Lake Shelan circa
nineteen ninety seven. And we're coming around,

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you know, these corners at night, and it's a real steep mountain,

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mountainous area. To one side we
have Lake Shechlan, because the other

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side it's basically a mountain like,
heavily forested, lots of deer around,

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plenty of water. That's what some
people say is squatchy. I guess I

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didn't know it at the time,
didn't even know what that meant at all.

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And all of a sudden, we're
racing around this corner and there's something

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coming up the side of the mountain, like right in the center of the

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road, and it was down on
all fours. It did not look like

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a cow. We're moving so fast, I had to drift around this thing.

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But as soon as the headlights hit
it, it turned its head to

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the side. And what I did
see and everybody else in the vehicle,

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these are my best friends, I
trust them. We didn't have too many

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diets, so it is where we
weren't coherent. This thing turned its head

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and it just froze. It was
cinnamon and you could see muscles all over

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it. I thought it was a
bowl because your brain automatically wants to recognize

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a pattern, at least that's what
they say, and this pattern that I

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recognized as like a bear or a
bowl. But it really made no sense,

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and we drifted around it and we
just continued on going, and everyone

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in the car was just so shocked
that there was this massive, like needy

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creature in the center of the road. And as soon as we passed it,

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we know, we wanted to keep
our speed up, but we were

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having fun. The guys turned around
and it was already gone. It was

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already gone. There's no cattle ranch
on a mountainous cliffs anywhere near there,

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let alone. I don't know why
a rancher would let his cow out at

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night like that, but it was
just so shocking. I don't even know

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what it was. I wish I
could say it was a sasquatch. I

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wish I could say it was bear
or a cow. But that was like

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my first experience into this realm of
something very strange that didn't make sense,

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and I put it in the back
of my brain and that was the first

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account that I can say there.
Jeremiah, have you done any research to

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see if similar type creatures were seen
in the same area over the years.

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I have Lake Schlann in the Wanacchi
National Forest is full of sasquatch sightings,

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especially Ellensburg. That's another place.
It's not too far away, and where

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I did my sear training, Fairchild
Air Force Space. They're all over Washington

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State. At the time, I
had no idea it's a hot bed for

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sasquatch. Apparently so were there reports
then of even people seeing this around the

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base as well? Oh Fairchild Air
Force Face and Spokane. I don't know,

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because when I was in seer training, I just hear some things.

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I didn't do any research on that
then, but after the fact, years

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later. Yet there's sasquatch reports,
many sasquatch reports in the Spokane area,

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too many to list. I can't
even think of one that stands out that's

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any different from all the rest.
There's corroboration in a lot of the data.

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You can eliminate the edge cases and
apply a coefficient of let's say,

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craziness or people making it up.
But there's so much there. There's a

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huge preponderance of evidence of sasquatching in
Spokane and Washington State. I firmly believe

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it absolutely. Thinking back to it, sounds like you saw it for a

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very short time. But you said
it was all on all fours. How

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high off the ground was that.
I guess you would say maybe the top

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of the head of this creature.
It was at least five to six feet

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on all fours. And the thing
about its head was there was no like

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muzzle. There's no you'd expect a
cow muzzle, And we kept looking to

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see this cow's muzzle. I know
I did, because you'd expect to see

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a large snout and or different coloration. Because my family grew up with cows.

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We raised cows and boffel, believe
it or not. But there was

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no snout. There was just no
snout at all. It was its head

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was turned to the side, and
I kept waiting to see this snout,

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but there was no snout when he
drove past it. So and that's why

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I assumed that its head was all
the way back around. But I think

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it was shielding's eyes. That's very
tricky. We're able to see like a

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shape to the head at all,
or any other detail to it. What

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I saw with the head, it
was rounded and there was no tail.

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There was no tail at all.
It was like a cow with no tail

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and around it head. That's what
I have written in my memory and cinnamon

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brown it. It was bizarre.
Could you see This is tricky because it's

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all on all fours. But something
people say about sasquatch when they're looking at

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it is that the shoulders were just
massive. The width of the shoulders were

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massive. Could you see anything,
yes, yes, likewise to that,

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yeah, the shoulders were massive,
because that's I thought it was bold because

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I saw rippling muscles on the shoulders. I didn't see the hoofs or feet

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or anything like that. I was
just moving too fast, and I think

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it's called the parallax of the light
was above that and the hood was above

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that. Like my visual horizon couldn't
see below let's say that the ankles.

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But it looked like it had massive
shoulders. Massive shoulders. Absolutely, it

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was not something that I wanted.
I don't want hit anything with my vehicle.

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But usually when let's say you hit
like a deer or something like that,

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you're not worried about your vehicle.
But this looked like something that it

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would have done serious damage to the
vehicle. It was like, do I

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hit the mountain or do I hit
this thing? Type of deal. Absolutely,

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and I would have rather hit the
mountain. Yeah, I'd probably be

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right there with you. Could you
notice anything if let's say you have the

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back legs and the front legs or
the equivalents of did you notice if they

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were at the same sizes or it
was one set maybe longer or shorter than

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the other set. One thing that
I was assuming that the back legs would

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be lower, but I thought that
was because it was you know, it

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just came off the mountain, but
it was in the road by the time

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we got the headlights to it,
so the hips were actually lower and the

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shoulders were higher. It wasn't like
it didn't look like it was made for

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walking on all fours. It didn't
look like it was. It was parallel

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like a cow. How a cow
is like its shoulders and its hips are

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like the same height. Approximately looked
like it was like bent. I wish

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I had more data for you with
it, but it's my mind wanted to

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create build this pattern. It must
be a cow. After examining it,

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I just don't think it was because
of these very things that you're asking me.

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Yeah, the more details that are
coming out in this, it does.

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It does start painting a certain picture. You said there was cinnamon type

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colored hair. Are you able to
see if it was long the link as

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the hair or anything. That's another
thing. It did not look like cow

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hair at all. It was hair. It wasn't fur, because because cow

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hair it's like curly and chorus and
shorts. This was like long. It

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was long. It almost looked like
like it was conditioned or something like that.

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It was clearly cinnamon brown. It
didn't look madded at all. A

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lot of times people say that they've
there and who's to say that they're not

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maybe even just got up from like
a sleep, they didn't have their coffee

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or something like that. But this
thing looked like it was healthy and whatever

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it was looked healthy and had like
hair not I'd say six at least six

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inches long all over it down its
arms, and it was the same color.

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It wasn't like a herferd cow or
a milk cow or anything like that.

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Gotcha? And you said no ears, but also no horns either sounds

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and no no horns whatsoever. And
the ears I couldn't even see the ears,

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honestly, And no tail, no
tail. That was a funny thing.

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It definitely sounds like it was a
thing where you're, as you said,

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your mind was trying to build a
pattern based on things that you knew.

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And the more the more we talk
about it, definitely it doesn't sound

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like it was probably a cow,
but that's the closest thing your mind could

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use to fill in the blanks.
And did you smell anything weird around that

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area when you were driving through?
Did it smelled the skunky and my jeep

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because of my inhabitants, and probably
a stale old soda serve. I couldn't.

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I couldn't say, Actually, I
couldn't say we're inside the Forerunner at

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the time. Yeah, I got
you. Okay, cool. Guess another

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question I could ask it no weird
sounds, but if you're inside the Forerunner,

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you wouldn't be really hearing many sounds
besides that the engine. I think

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we were playing two live crew of
something to date the situation. Nice.

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Yeah, unfortunately, Yes, that
is such a really interesting sighting makes you

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wonder at that point you're not in
a you're just having fun right in ninety

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seven and you're not gonna get out
and see if there's tracks, and you're

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just having a good time. Yeah, that's what it was. Well,

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thank you for sharing that. That's
a fun one. I'd never really heard

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one like that. I'd be curious
if someone listening has experienced something like that

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on all fours in that same area, if they could reach out or put

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it in the comments, that would
be amazing, big for society. Who

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would be right back after these messages
you say you've also had something interesting happen

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at a range. Yes, fort
Lewis, and again, I don't want

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to make light of anyone's bigfoot situation. Before we go on with These two

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situations were more or less they were
funny, and they were fun. But

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I've heard these I winn as testimonies, especially on your show, Jeremiah Bigfoot

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Society. Like you guys, your
guests have so much courage coming forward,

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and I know what they've had to
deal with. A lot of people they

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reach out to for support, they're
ridiculed. I hate that. I hate

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that they've that's happened to your guests
in the past. But I know I

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trust you to share my story.
But I've got no dog in the fight,

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and I'm not really worried about being
ridiculed for this or other things.

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But you provide like a really good
environment for people to share their stories.

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What you're doing is like a public
service and it's so important. Like these

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stories that people share are are traumatizing
and they're scary. Like I've I just

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don't want to come across as I'm
making light of anything, even though my

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stories were funny. Oh absolutely,
And I wouldn't say it's coming across as

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that, but I appreciate you you
calling that out. It is once you

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start to experience stuff yourself, which
I am starting to. I'm starting to

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realize the that, yes, it
is very important that there is a an

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outlet, whether it's Bigfoot Society or
Sasquatch Odyssey or Sasquatch Chronicles. It's important

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that these things are in place so
that people have someone to talk to that

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they're not afraid of being laughed at
or losing their jobs, you know.

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All right, Yeah, So this
this next story, I was on Fort

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Lewis. Anyone that's ever been Fort
Lewis or aunt around Mount Rainier might know

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these these accounts Fort Lewis backs up
against or the Fort Lewis Range backs up

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against the Mount Rainier National Forest.
Just to give some graphical context. So

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back in two thousand and seven,
I was also in the Army. We're

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doing some training and were out there
for a weekend. We met it by

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Camp Murray, and I was part
of the opposing forces like group, and

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then there was like a main group
and we were supposed to go out and

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find them. I was the Air
Force guy and any so I was the

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Air Force guy with a bunch of
Army people. So you know, I

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of course thought I was like,
oh, I'll show these Army guys how

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it's done. This that's not how
it went. And I'm like, oh,

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that's a really big gun you got
there. They're like, sure,

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you can carry the big gun air
Force guy, and I was like,

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oh, boy, nido. And
so they gave me a two forty nine,

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which is the saw squad automatic weapon, and they proceeded to load me

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down with all the ammunition three I
think two or three sacks of ammunitions.

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So I'm not used to wreck marching
coming from the Air Force world. Not

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that the Air Force people don't pt
in march hard with the vast majority of

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the Air Force, they don't necessarily
train like that. I was an eye

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opener. So we're all loaded up
with our Alice Pax and our ACU or

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I think our activity vest. I
forget what it's called now, it's been

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so long ago. And I have, you know, a saw with a

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bunch of ammunition, and like everybody
else has these nice little like light m

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Force, you know, the sixteen. It's just a it's cute. And

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so I'm by the near end of
this rock march. I'm at the very

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end of the line. I think
I see a picture of that very weekend

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loaded up. It's very proud.
That was before I nearly had a heart

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attack keeping up with these these soldiers. So we get out there to our

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first camping spot, and this is
after an afternoon of chasing each other down

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and trying to surprise the main group
because we once we got to this sort

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of theater of operations, we broke
off into opposing forces and the main contingents

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of the group and there's an OCS
group and then it was a blast that

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it was just a great weekend.
Like the opposing forces, we got these

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like at least one unmarked van.
I was in the very back and we're

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blasting Metallica and just like pumping up
metal music and yeah, we're just cruising

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around the range is looking for other
soldiers to pop off with like blanks,

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and we're just like shooting blanks that
doing like drive bys. I don't think

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this is incriminating and all do I
need to say allegedly, but that's just

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what the training was. And we
did that all afternoon, like ambushing the

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other soldiers and it was just a
blast. And so you know, we

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have an afternoon of this and then
we meet back up with the main group

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and we're more or less I don't
know if we I don't think we're digging

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foxholes. There are already some foxholes
out there. And we, you know,

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just set up a perimeter, a
mock, a foreign territory type of

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deal. And so we're getting we're
betting down for the nights, and then

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they pick you know, the first
couple of guards. I was one of

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them facing one direction. I wish
I could say south east or west,

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but I don't remember. We were
in the forest. Mountaineer was in the

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background, and it was like really
dense forest, and then there was another

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person keeping guard on the opposite side
of our little base. The thing about

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for lewis you really got to be
careful where you're sleeping because there's like these

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African ants that are all over the
place. They will chew you up.

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That it's an invasive, non native
species, So just keep that in mind

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if you ever want to go like
exploring on the range looking for things or

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Mount Raineer. I'm sure they've proliferated
all over the place. So we're getting

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ready to bed down for the night. We've established a perimeter. There's like

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little sleeping bags all over this little
grove. The sun is going down and

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then the instructors let us the guards
and everybody else knows. Okay, there

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we're going to be testing you guys
throughout the night, and there's other instructors

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out there, so make sure you
don't fall asleep. That's the enemy.

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Your lives could depend on this some
day if you're deployed. I'm like all

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hot to trot, and I don't
want to let down my team. I

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don't want to mock get it,
get you know, them killed, or

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myself. So I'm like super diligent
and i want to show these army guys

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that are you know, what the
Air Force has to offer, you know,

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integrity first, services for self and
excellence and all we do that sort

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of deal. Still, these guys
know what they're doing, and I'm slowly

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but surely, like the sun is
going down. It's dark and I'm not

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nodding off, but it's just it's
getting later and later. I'm tired.

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My other teammates is still awake.
I think one of the instructors at least

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is awake all night. But I'm
basically the lone man facing one direction,

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protecting and the other troops as the
evening whereas on it's pitch black. Now

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all I see is just some trees
and shrubs. I start hearing something,

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there's something in the distance sneaking up
on us, and I of course have

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my saw all cocked with. It's
ready to go, with the belts ready,

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it's all cleaning. Those things are
just a pain in the butt too.

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It was another kind of hazing process
that gave from me. But I'm

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ready to go. I know there's
going to be an instructor sneaking up on

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us. That's just what I suspected. So I hear this, these like

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footsteps in the distance, and it's
clearly footsteps. It's not like a deer

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like hopping around or like something on
four legs. There's somebody taking a step

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stop, step stop, or step. It's bipedal. It's objectively by pedal.

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The last story was maybe it was
account maybe it wasn't. This is

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footsteps. And it gets louder and
louder, and I'm looking for where it

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should be and I don't see anything. But there's lots of trees, so

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I'm like, oh, they're being
sneaky. I think I know what's going

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on these instructors. So it gets
closer and I'm not going to have any

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of this. I'm going to show
them that I am on guard and I'm

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going to be like the top soldier. So I'm waiting till it gets really

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close. It's just it's getting closer
and close. It's like an Alfred Hitchcock

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movie playing out in real time.
And then it gets maybe i'd say fifteen

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yards away. And I've been listening
to this from like the distance must have

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you know, it sounds like one
hundred yards away. It gets real close,

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and I stand up and I shoot
in this direction with the saw two

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forty nine on full auto, just
right at this direction, and everybody wakes

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up, and this thing, this
shadow, whatever it was, runs along

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the periphery of our little camp,
like just on the edge. It's running.

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It's like a shadow. You can
see the branches moving, and it

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runs through through these bushes right on
the outside, and then through our camp

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after it gets outside of my visual
range and it runs through a few of

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the sleeping bags through the center of
our camp. Everybody wakes up on that

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side too, and it's I'm the
only one shooting, and they're like stop,

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stop, stop shooting. What's going
on? And then the instructors pop

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off a couple flares because they didn't
know what this thing was, and so

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everybody is just really freaked out.
And then a couple of the other students

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thought it must have been a bear. It must have been like you guys

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were sleeping. This was not a
bear, let alone. It was brushing

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like branches that were eight feet at
least eight feet up in the area,

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if six to eight feet up in
the air, and it ran through our

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camp. It was by bipedal and
the structors didn't even know what it was.

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It was just the wildest thing.
But it's like a scene of apocalypse.

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Now. Some of the other people
started shooting to flare is going off.

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It was just it was a while
the situation, and that's basically the

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end of it. This thing took
off running and it was gone. Whatever

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it was, we scared it.
I think, yeah, yeah, that

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was basically horrifying. It was like
before I before I thought it was a

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human and then like this, this
giant shadow thing ran by us, just

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and inside part of the perimeter too, inside where my fellow soldiers were sleeping.

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And I have effectively a noise gun. I can't do any sort of

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real damage to the thing, not
that that i'd want to I really wouldn't,

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but yeah, it was just I'm
sure I scared it half to death.

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I was scared too. It was
just a wild time, sir,

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just a wild time because you had
blanks at that time, right, just

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like we all had blanks. I
don't think anyone had anything besides the flares

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that were shot up first. Yeah, can you, for some listeners just

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explain the difference between having blanks versus
normal ammunition. Yeah, it's five five,

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six, two two three rounds and
there is just a belt fed round

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essentially, but there's no bullet.
It's just it's about a third the normal

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loudness of a regular round and you
can feel it in the recoil too.

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But it's just it's complete, just
all show, no goat and type of

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around. You never want to be
in a situation where you actually need a

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gun and you have blanks. And
we even had these little caps they're like

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orange caps on the ends of our
guns. I know I did on my

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saw. But yeah, it just
makes a lot of noise, a lot

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of noise. So yeah, run
into your camp. It's just being lit

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up with sound. Nothing's hitting it, but it's like not at all crazy

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sounds all over the places, probably
freaking out. Yeah, yes, exactly

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because I started shooting first, and
then a couple of the other cadets didn't

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want to be let out of the
party either, so they wanted to show

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that they were doing a good job, and everybody started. A lot of

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them started shooting. Then the instructors
shot up their flares too. It's just

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it was pretty hilarious after the fact, and then we all wrote it off

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as oh, it must have been
a black bear, or like, sure

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it was a black bear and there
are black bear out there, but this

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wasn't no black bear. To be
grammatically correct, the ain't no black bear

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running on two feet all the time
full time. Did you notice you probably

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weren't in I don't know. I'll
just ask were their tracks left when it

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ran through the camp or were there
things that were just mowed over when it

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ran through things like that. I
actually didn't check for tracks. I probably

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should have. The instructors were pretty
pretty decisive after the fact that they were

403
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.160
more or less like, what are
you doing. There's no instructors out there.

404
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.960
I'm just telling you that to keep
it, you know, on guard.

405
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:03.400
Part of your training, like stop
firing, get back to bed.

406
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.799
Now that's what we did. It
was a follow orders type of deal,

407
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.599
Yes, sir, But I should
have. Did you guys have to do

408
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.000
reports about what happened or anything?
I thought I wouldn't have. Maybe that

409
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.880
the instructors did, but I think
the sightings of if they wrote it off

410
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.160
as a bear, are just so
common. But again I'm assuming. I

411
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.680
really don't know. I was more
or less trying the majority of my time

412
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:32.079
there was trying to stay hydrated and
perform right and not have a heart attack

413
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.519
with these other guys. I was
not prepared for that hike, absolutely at

414
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:41.160
all. After that event, was
there any chatter between you or people that

415
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.519
you were there with other soldiers?
What was that or I've heard something like

416
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.119
that before or anything? I thought, oh, yeah, yeah, there

417
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.799
was chatter as we're all talking about
it like that. That wasn't a bear?

418
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.680
What was that? That was exactly
it. A lot of those guys

419
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.400
were not to local. No,
it was a Washington Guard out, so

420
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:04.039
they were local. We didn't but
we didn't really talk about sasquatch or bigfoot.

421
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.400
We just agreed that it wasn't a
bear. And again, this is

422
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.279
just busy training. We didn't have
a lot of time for that sort of

423
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.359
stuff. And we went immediately to
sleep. I think it was the next

424
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.599
person on guard, and they really
didn't want to like talking all night.

425
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.240
And then the next day we packed
up and left and we didn't see each

426
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.839
other again until a couple weeks later
and then it's onto the next training event.

427
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.680
That was pretty much it. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't bad.

428
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.319
It was terrifying for a second,
and then it was just like it happened

429
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.640
so fast. Yeah, those are
like my two like little kind of funny

430
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:45.000
stories. Now we had off air. We were chatting before the interview and

431
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.799
if I need to cut this out, I can. But you said you

432
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:55.200
had interesting anecdote that you had heard
that was from or I'll let you fill

433
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.079
in how you would like to fill
it in. Sure. So when I

434
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:03.799
was in the Air Force, this
is like years many years before my time

435
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.200
in the Army, I was,
you know, at a base called Pope

436
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.119
Air Force Base and Fort Bragg is
a home of special forces. And somebody

437
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.599
told me that they were on a
team that hypothetically knocked off a couple of

438
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.640
sasquatch in the Fort Lewis area,
And you know how of the special Forces.

439
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:25.720
You can draw a line to what
those different groups are. But they

440
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.359
said they killed a couple of them
in Fort Lewis, and I, you

441
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.839
know, I didn't think anything of
it. Then years later, recently,

442
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.880
in fact, I listened to the
Sasquatch Chronicles and another great show, and

443
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.039
there's an episode called Up the Hill. I recommend you listening listen to that

444
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.640
because in Up the Hill, the
gentleman was also doing opposing force training and

445
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:52.480
he went to a portion of the
base that encountered some green berets doing live

446
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:57.240
fire what appear to be exercises,
but it wasn't an exercise. They were

447
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.640
doing some type of base cleansing,
base cleaning, and then they killed a

448
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.559
couple of them. This is corroboration. These things they bleed, they breed,

449
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.519
they go to the bathroom. They
can be killed big for society,

450
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:30.759
who will be right back after these
messages. You're probably gonna have to use

451
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.880
like a fifty caliber and Oregon the
right shot, but they can absolutely be

452
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:40.079
killed. They're a living creature just
like us. But yeah, that's some

453
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.920
corroboration. I firmly believed that person
at that time. Wow, that is

454
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:51.200
wild. It sounds like there's some
interesting things going around that Fort Lewis area

455
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.680
in close proximity to Mount Rainier area. It's not a surprise, really,

456
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:02.480
but be interesting to hear if other
listeners have if listeners have also heard things

457
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.799
as well from that area. You
kind of alluded to what you might think,

458
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.359
but I'm going to just ask you
straight out, what do you think

459
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.200
when you think of a big foot
or sasquatch? What do you think it

460
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.119
is that we are dealing with.
So I've been looking into it, and

461
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.400
I don't know if all your listeners
have heard of melb ketcham or read the

462
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:29.359
DNA study, but I highly encourage
you to do that. It's free online.

463
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:30.599
You can go to her website or
you can google it. It's a

464
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.759
pdf. She put a lot of
time and effort into it, and she

465
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.319
was blackball lost a lot of her
career. I'm just going to go a

466
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:45.480
little bit into her background. Melba
ketcham As is like a rock star of

467
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:51.039
the DNA world. She heard her
techniques and her lab has been used for

468
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.839
federal cases, state cases, counting
cases to convict people of crimes, send

469
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.799
people to death row, or more
or less. But her techniques are used

470
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:07.160
to the legal standard. She's not
a joke. She's not somebody that fakes

471
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.559
things, because that'd be a moral
and these governments, these local, state

472
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.359
or federal government government wouldn't use her
services. So that being said, she

473
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.960
decided to take on the task of
doing a DNA study. And this is

474
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.400
I think from like twenty twelve or
twenty sixteen. It's many years ago.

475
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:29.680
But nobody would publish her work because
they doubted her her techniques or something like

476
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.759
that, which is just ridiculous.
So she had to buy her own magazine

477
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:40.039
and publish it, and they nitpick
maybe a period isn't rioter is not quoted,

478
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.079
right, But the science is good. And again I'm not a biologist

479
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.000
or anything like that, but I
know enough to know that two plus two

480
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.839
equals four, and her techniques are
good enough for a legal standard. It's

481
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.319
easily good enough for this. And
from what I can tell, she went

482
00:33:54.880 --> 00:34:00.440
of her normal standard to convict someone
and send them to death. She went

483
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:06.119
many times above that sort of level
of scrutiny. And so the DNA study

484
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:12.000
more or less says that fifteen thousand
years old. Let's just say they were

485
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:17.719
created fifteen thousand years ago, and
there are mitochondrial DNA. The female DNA

486
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:24.199
is completely human. The nuclear DNA
is four percent known, so it's human.

487
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.440
It's a compositive human and four percent
unknown DNA. People may say,

488
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.760
that's clearly we bred with the gorilla
fifteen thousand years ago and that's how we

489
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.239
got sasquatch, or maybe it's just
inconclusive. No, this is a hard

490
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.960
fact. This is a hard data
point where there is no conjecture, there

491
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.840
is no speculation. We now know
what these things are. These things are

492
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.320
a hybrid humans. We don't need
to speculate anymore. We don't need to

493
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.960
waste our time. We have a
new data data point to build from,

494
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:57.400
at least with Bigfoot or Sasquatch.
It doesn't mean that there's not other things

495
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.519
out there, which there definitely are, if we start trusting the Native Americans

496
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.519
for a change instead of ridiculing them
or thinking that they're crazy. If the

497
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.400
salmon is real, if the bear
is the mountain lion, the bigfoot,

498
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.360
the eagle is real, what else
is real? I worry about the skin

499
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.840
mocker, the wind to Go,
the dog matt, all these other things.

500
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:16.880
If one thing is real, there's
probably some truth to these other things

501
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.800
too. And I think it's a
high time we start trusting the witness for

502
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.760
a change. Anyways, what I
think Bigfoot is, I think it's exactly

503
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:29.360
that. I think there's a DNA
study and a preponderance of evidence that leads

504
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.760
us to believe these things are definitely
real. I've seen something. I don't

505
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.440
know what it is. I've seen
something, and trust the DNA studies.

506
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.079
Once we know that there's a sasquatch
around what is fifteen thousand years ago?

507
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.079
How could that possibly be? Evolution
doesn't work that fast. It can't.

508
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:52.079
Evolution's real. I trust that there's
evolution. I'm not saying that evolution explains

509
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.360
everything. It does not explain these
things. So what fits the data?

510
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.639
We have all the data? What
picture does it's paint for us? What

511
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.360
I think it does is that these
things were created. How would we create

512
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.280
something? We would genetically engineer it. We can. It's called crisper and

513
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.960
it requires an advanced civilization. So
fifteen thousand years ago, there was an

514
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.760
advanced civilization that genetically engineered these things. From our DNA, I don't think

515
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:22.280
that there's anything else that fits the
data. If there is, I'm open

516
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.440
to it, I am, but
it ain't no gigant Epithecus genetic material isn't

517
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.920
even compatible mating naturally with a gorilla
or a chimpanzee or something like that.

518
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:37.440
But another thing to keep in mind
when you're thinking about, excuse me,

519
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:43.000
when when you're thinking about sasquatch,
the difference between us and chimpanzee is whatemia

520
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.920
it's two percent? Haven't you heard
that it's two percent different? I have

521
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:51.119
heard that it's a very low number. It's really interesting how, especially over

522
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:57.199
the last few years, it seems
that the subject has just gotten I feel

523
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.000
it's gotten bigger. And that might
be due to the shows that got popular

524
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:05.800
back in the day, like Finding
Bigfoot for ten years and all that good

525
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.519
stuff. But I just feel like
it is getting bigger, and there's some

526
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.440
good people out there doing some good
research, and some that aren't even talking

527
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.000
about it, and they they're not
even You've got the Olympic Project, You've

528
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:25.280
got any WAC, You've got the
war guys who are also down in Southeast

529
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.119
Oklahoma. Then you've got guys that
they don't want to talk about what they're

530
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:36.679
doing in the public, and I
barely hear stuff about them. And I

531
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:42.480
just think one of these days are
going to get some solid evidence. Do

532
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:47.119
you think it's going to take a
type specimen to finally prove to the world

533
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.519
that what we've got here is reel
or do you think it could just be

534
00:37:52.599 --> 00:38:00.199
a DNA study that you know is
like, they've got tons of specimens make

535
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.239
it. It's not gonna make a
bit of difference if you like, you

536
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.159
have these people that think they're the
great American hunter and they're going to go

537
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.039
out into the woods and not only
kill one, but bring it back and

538
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.719
then get it on the news.
This is the same thing I've told a

539
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:17.159
few people, good luck, good
luck surviving the Sasquatch, because they're just

540
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.920
like us. They're not going to
let their buddy that falls into the chimpanzee

541
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.800
pit at the zoo carve up one
of their friends and then take it outside

542
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.280
of the zoo to their tribe.
It's not going to happen. But if

543
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.960
they do get lucky, and let's
just say they come across they surprise a

544
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:37.039
bigfoot like nothing's perfect. These things
aren't perfect, and you do kill it,

545
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:39.280
like in a defensive way. You
get to contain Chris Bigfoot that's trying

546
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.719
to kill you in your family,
you kill one of them, And I

547
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.360
mean, do you think the government
is going to let you put it on

548
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.480
the news. You might get a
local news story, you might, and

549
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.440
then it'll just go completely black.
There is no way that the US government,

550
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:59.599
if they don't want something like out
there, they're let something as monumentous

551
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.239
as this, like a parallel apex
species occupying this planet. You know a

552
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.599
lot of because there's not enough people
that care about this that they're just too

553
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.079
you know, wrapped up in their
own lives. People are busy, Times

554
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.840
are tough. You've got American Idol
and whatever days of our lives on TV.

555
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.159
You're just not gonna the vast majority
of the voting electorate are not going

556
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.039
to pay attention to this. And
a body ain't going to make a bit

557
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.039
of difference. A picture ain't going
to make a difference nothing. It's just

558
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:30.400
going to take enough people waking up. But I highly discourage anyone from going

559
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.719
out there and trying to kill one
of these things. It just it would

560
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.039
be superfluous, It would be wasteful, and they would probably die by the

561
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:44.880
Bigfoot or the government. It just
ain't connect you, I agree, Yeah,

562
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:52.239
for moral yeah, there's that I'm
talking. I'm having an internal model.

563
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:54.559
I'm not gonna I'm not going to
get into a few things on air,

564
00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.800
but I will so uh please,
but uh I will. I will

565
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.639
say this. I agree with you
that if people you guys, you gotta

566
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.119
be careful because they're never alone,
and if you are lucky enough to take

567
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:14.039
it down, you will not.
I don't think you'll survive. That's really

568
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.679
what it comes down to you.
Absolutely not. So just be careful,

569
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.199
don't do it. Yeah, it's
it's immoral. And then people that want

570
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.760
to find these things, it's look, they're territorial. We've already encroached on

571
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.079
their habitat enough. If it's one
thing, if you don't know the signs,

572
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:34.000
but if you're seeing these tree structures, especially upside down trees, or

573
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.360
you're hearing wood knocks where they're like
counting you in your group, you know

574
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.239
you're you're close to them. Like
putting trail cameras up all over the place,

575
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.639
you're not going to find them.
They can see infrared. You might

576
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.840
in mvgs, but like intent matters, these things are enuff or they can

577
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.360
read your mind whatever it can.
They know your intent and if you have

578
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:58.239
your open carrying a rifle into their
quote unquote living They're not going to want

579
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.800
to meet you. They're just not. They'll pick who they want to meet,

580
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.360
and they probably already have with some
of this mind speak. I recommend

581
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.480
reading that book. By the way, there's one book by Chris It's called

582
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:12.320
mind Speaks. It's pretty good.
There's like this person called No Bite and

583
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.280
Natanya Man. I'd love to that's
a different segment that I'd like to ask

584
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.159
you about. But you just don't
go into their home with a bunch of

585
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.519
movie cameras and expect any results.
Certainly, don't go into their bedroom quote

586
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.519
unquote their bedroom like the forest and
take shots at them. You're just not.

587
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.960
You're endangering yourself and whatever if you
bring along with you that have no

588
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.840
idea that think it's a game,
it's not a game. These things are.

589
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.440
You know, it's like fighting Superman
without Kryptonite with a pop gun.

590
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:46.199
You know that's legitimately what you're doing. So just yeah, be real careful.

591
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:52.079
People take this stuff seriously because he
shows like fighting Bigfoot or whatever.

592
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:53.840
I get it's done a certain way
back then, but there's been a paradigm

593
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.760
shift. No longer. Do you
have to have this discerning skeptical person in

594
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.639
the group that's I can't prove it. I'm the scientific person. No,

595
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:05.679
the scientific people are the ones conducting
this research, and the real scientific people

596
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.800
are letting the data build the picture, not like someone's own condition paradigm,

597
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:14.199
try and fit the data like into
this picture of reality that they have.

598
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.079
It's the Buddhist call it beginner's mind. Let the data build the picture,

599
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:22.519
and a real scientist will will tell
you that the data speaks for itself.

600
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:29.360
It's obvious. It's obvious. Sir
Kevin, have you been doing any research

601
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:35.679
yourself, like going into areas and
trying to establish contact or look for anything

602
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.559
or I might have might I might
have their Jeremiah, Yeah, I might.

603
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.880
We can talk about that sort of
stuff later. Maybe I've incorporated certain

604
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:50.039
things like to be continued. I
understand. That's cool. Yeah, when

605
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you have a small plane in certain
areas you can scope out there's certain things.

606
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.559
That's quite the tool to have.
If you have access to the small

607
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.199
plane and you can sure lie this
small plan, that's pretty cool. I

608
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would love to talk for a few
minutes about what you're doing with remote cabin

609
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.760
radio. Oh yes, okay.
Remote Cabin Radio is just a pet project.

610
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.400
Like I think, all channels like
yours are just so inspiring, and

611
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.920
I've always had a love for the
mysterious and unknown in Cold War. Eventually

612
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.719
I'll start a podcast too. I'm
not just going to focus on Sasquatch.

613
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.079
I don't have a skill set for
it and they don't have connections. But

614
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.880
I'm really interested in Cold War.
So many technologies and nick things have come

615
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.039
out of the Cold War, and
it's it deals with even alien, with

616
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:43.599
the Cuban missile crisis, just our
history. It's basically about US history and

617
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.599
mysteries. That's what Remote Cabin Radio
is, and I'm right now the only

618
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.519
thing that's on the channel are just
primary source narrations. What I'm doing with

619
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.239
a company called eleven Labs out of
New York. It's a voice cloning program.

620
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.320
Eventually i'll clone my own voice.
They just haven't gotten around to it,

621
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.480
and I'm using voices that are already
cloned. It's not a synthetic speech

622
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.800
program that sounds a little bit better
than Stephen Hawk. It's nothing like that.

623
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.039
So I'll take primary documents and I'll
plug them into eleven labs and then

624
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.079
I'll have it on my channel and
that's a primary source narration component. The

625
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.400
podcast will go along with it.
But anyone that listens to the podcast can

626
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.800
take the you know, the other
episodes of the narrations and listen to those,

627
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so they're knowledgeable about the episodes on
the podcast. It's just supporting documents.

628
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.880
So it's making a lot of these
these stories like ape in or the

629
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:38.440
melbketch and DNA study or some of
these primary documents that are super important accessible

630
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.480
for people, and then they can
listen to that and then listen to the

631
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.280
podcast or vice versa or nothing.
I've got three subscribers and one of them

632
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.480
as a cat, and it is
what it is. But it's boring.

633
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.880
But it's boring for a reason because
it's foundational. I'm trying to be vertically

634
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.960
integrated. But the podcast will be
a long sooner or later either way.

635
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.239
Like I love listening to your channel. You're what inspired There's me Jeremiah,

636
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:06.480
Like I love Bigfoot Society. I
appreciate that, and I'd recommend people definitely

637
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.320
check out Remote Kevin Radio. There's
a lot of really cool videos on there

638
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.800
already. Bigfoot, non Bigfoot,
stuff, So it's definitely worth checking out

639
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:22.599
subscribing all that good stuff. But
any any final thoughts about Bigfoot as we

640
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:28.760
start to wind down our conversation,
Kevin, Yes, are you kidding me?

641
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.079
Jeremiah, I could talk? You're
here all right? So I'm going

642
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.320
to ask you your audience and you
this so we know what Bigfoot is.

643
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.079
Now, So let's just say some
of your audience member, audience members have

644
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:44.320
contact with Sasquatch. There's reports of
this, and I'm pretty sure at least

645
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.000
one of your audience has mind speak
with these things. Yes, I said

646
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.119
mine speak, and yes I believe
it. I believe it. I've never

647
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.559
experienced it, but I believe it. If we could talk to a clan

648
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.440
of Sasquatch or a savage, what
would you ask them? I know what

649
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.559
I would ask them. Do you
want to know what I was asking?

650
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.400
Jeremiah? Yeah? Absolutely, Okay, this would be one of my questions.

651
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.079
What do you know about your own
creator? That would be one question.

652
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.880
What do you know about our creator? Can you tell us anything about

653
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:20.239
ancient Egypt or ancient Mesopotamia or any
other ancient civilization? Did we ever live

654
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.360
together peace? Do you think we
will ever live in peace together again.

655
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:30.239
What advice do you have for our
species? Can you tell us about mind

656
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.599
speak and tell everyone? I said, Hi, that's that's it. I'd

657
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.599
love to know that as well.
And I'd probably like to know more about

658
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.360
the whole infrasound thing too, how
that works. Oh yeah, pretty cool.

659
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.239
That's at the list. And one
last thing. I think, calm

660
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:52.639
crazy, but I think we might
need them someday and they might need us,

661
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:57.079
So be real careful how you treat
them, and treat each other and

662
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.000
treat the environment. That's It's really
important. We can't change the fact that

663
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:05.320
there's aliens and sasquatch, and don't
be afraid of it. They've been here

664
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.440
for a long time. They're not
as old as us. They're ancient,

665
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.360
but they're not primal. But be
good to each other. Don't treat this

666
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.119
life that's all you got. And
treat this environment like it's all you got.

667
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.400
There's a lot of creatures counting on
us to take care of this environment

668
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.719
that are or worse. Be good
to each other in the environment. That's

669
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.159
it, Jeremiah, fascinating. Kevin, thank you so much for coming on

670
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:30.960
and chatting. You had some great
encounter stories and also a really interesting chat

671
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.360
about some DNA stuff I didn't really
know a lot about, and I appreciate

672
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.440
you you sharing that. Guys,
make sure you go over to Kevin's channel,

673
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:45.800
Remote Cavin Radio to find out more
about the stuff that we were talking

674
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.360
about. I believe there's some DNA
study things over there and some other Bigfoot

675
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.440
related things that you'll probably like as
well. Can people reach out to you

676
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.960
or are you in the shadows for
now? Oh? Yeah, I wish

677
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.639
I was that mysterious. I yeah
they can. Remote Cabin radio dot com

678
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.599
has contact information on it. Email
address is there or you know what?

679
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.880
You can send me a letter.
I like getting letters. I paid for

680
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.480
that po box and we should use
it, so feel free to send me

681
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.519
letters about anything or an email whatever
you want. So contact info is on

682
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.400
the website there. I'll have that
linked in the show notes if you need

683
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.519
to reach out to Kevin directly about
what he was talking about. But thank

684
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.440
you so much for coming on tonight, Kevin, Yes, sir, thank

685
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:30.880
you. Another special thank you to
Kevin from Remote Kevin Radio. You can

686
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.199
go to Remote Cavinradio dot com to
get all the info and all the links

687
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:44.239
heads up about the episode you just
heard. The goal with Big for Society

688
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:49.199
is to have it continue to keep
going for a good long time. That

689
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:55.199
being said, certain platforms are starting
to have algorithms that kick in for certain

690
00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:04.599
subjects. The interview that was just
played did have a significant part cut out

691
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:12.519
of it due to let's just say, things that are related to items that

692
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:17.280
the Smithsonian used to try to gather
and then kind of go from there and

693
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.400
put in all sorts of other stuff
that would trigger algorithms. It's a fascinating

694
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:28.000
chat, but if I put it
on YouTube and other platforms, there's a

695
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.519
high likelihood that it could really mess
up a lot of things. That being

696
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.599
said, I just want to point
out again there is a raw audio part

697
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:40.880
of this recording that is available over
on patreon dot com. Forward slash the

698
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.320
Big for Society right now. It's
the one platform I can put it on

699
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:51.880
that I'm established that I don't have
to worry about stuff going sideways. So

700
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.159
check that out if you are interested
in hearing a bit more from Kevin.

701
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:02.159
That does get very interesting and add
to the conversation. And as always,

702
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.480
thank you all for listening and I'll
see you next time. Please take a

703
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706
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707
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708
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.599
you've had a bigfoot encounter related to
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709
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:40.440
please reach out to me at Bigfoot
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710
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:44.840
on my email. Here's the list. All right, I'm going to use

711
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this space this week to announce that
I'll be at the Sasquatch Summer Fest and

712
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.039
Oakridge organ as an atender. I
won't be presenting or anything, but I'll

713
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:58.800
be hanging out trying to interview people
that have had bigfoot encounters. If you're

714
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.480
from the Oakridge organ area or surrounding
and you've had a bigfoot experience, please

715
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.000
contact me directly Bigfoot Society at gmail
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716
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:12.239
enough that if you get your tickets
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717
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718
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719
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720
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special thank you to all the Bigfoot
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721
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:37.400
your support that helps keep the show
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722
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.400
you want to join in the fun, you can join over at patreon dot

723
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com forward slash the Bigfoot Society.
I'll see you there, and again thanks

724
00:51:46.199 --> 00:52:38.199
for listening. Her and I can
get out here, we can tell our

725
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:43.639
stories. Maybe there's somebody else out
there listening it's too afraid to tell their

726
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.000
story. Maybe this will give them
the courage to come out and now feel

727
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:51.599
so bad about it. Who cares
what anybody thinks. I know what I

728
00:52:51.719 --> 00:53:10.679
saw, I know what's out there. That's all I can. Please let

729
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.400
people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these

730
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:21.039
things, you need to tell because
if you don't, then shame on you,

731
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:22.039
you know, shame on you.