Nov. 24, 2025

Sasquatch Lifts Car at Shotgun Creek—Terrifying Encounter Stuns Oregon Locals

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Season 1

In this gripping episode, author Sai Marie Johnson recounts generations of terrifying Bigfoot encounters across Oregon — from Lane County’s dense forests to the infamous Shotgun Creek region.



Hear firsthand stories of a Sasquatch lifting a drifting car, mysterious knocks in Myrtle Creek, chilling warnings from Warm Springs elders, and unexplained activity linked to Oregon’s massive wildfire zones.



Sai shares family legends, personal encounters, and cultural insights that reveal why Bigfoot might be on the move — and why Oregon’s forests remain one of the hottest Sasquatch hotspots in North America.



Topics Include:
• Bigfoot encounters in Lane County & Shotgun Creek
• Sasquatch lifting a car during a late-night drift run
• Gold prospecting encounters in Myrtle Creek
• Warm Springs reservation treaty lore & warnings
• How Oregon wildfires may be pushing Bigfoot into new areas
• Paranormal activity across the Pacific Northwest

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You're listening to Bigflat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big Puts Society, You

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get the privilege of talking to sy Marie Johnson today.

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SI is an author that focuses mainly on writing paranormal

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books out there from the Pacific Northwest. And SI has

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some things that she's experienced over the years out there

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in mainly Oregon, right, Yeah.

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Mostly Lane County, but some other little spots too.

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Yeah. Lane County is a fun area. That's where I

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like to focus, and I go out there and it's

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hard to go most other places. Welcome to the show, Si,

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and it's thanks for having me. It's fun to have

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you here for sure. So let's start out with this.

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Did you grow up in Oregon so one hundred percent

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Pacific Northwest, or did you move there maybe later in life.

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So it's a little bit of nuanced because I was

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born in Eugene in nineteen ninety four, but in nineteen

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ninety five my mom moved to Tennessee and I lived

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for basically all of my life till I was eleven

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in Oregon, and my dad at times lived more in

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southern Oregon and at times more in ore than Oregon.

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So when they got divorced, I would go visit him

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in different spots.

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So I got a lot around Oregon, and then I

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lived in.

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The south until I moved back to Oregon in two

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thousand and fourteen, and I've been back since then.

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That is fantastic, though, because growing up you're getting both

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the weirdness of Oregon in the weirdness of Tennessee, which

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how many people can say that's extremely special? What state

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do you think is weirder from what you've experienced.

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I also lived in Alabama, down on the Florida border

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whereabout skunk Ape is, and I was there for five years.

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I was married to somebody who was in the military,

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and they were stationed down by Aiglin Air Force Base.

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That was where I had the most weird experiences, to

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be real with you, was down there in that little

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town in Alabama, other than here in Oregon, the primary

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and I've had a.

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Lot of other types of paranormal experiences.

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And I never really am like out trying to ghost

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hunt or anything like that looking for these things. It's

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usually just happenstance. Florella, Alabama. Yeah, I had a lot

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that was really a weird place.

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Interesting. Interesting. Let's let's start with why we're here today,

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I guess would be a good place to start. So

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you were telling me before we started recording that you

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have a lot of interesting anecdotes from your family history

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as well about experiencing things in Oregon.

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I told you a little bit before the show started

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that I come from family, a lot of which has

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generations in Oregon and some of whom also helped pave

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log roads and stuff like that.

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So some of.

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These lore if you will, were already in my family

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ahead of time. And the first time I remember hearing

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about Bigfoot, I was about five, and this happened with

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my dad. Now he passed away in twenty and twenty two,

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so it's been three years now, but this story stood

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out because it was the when I first really was like,

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what are you talking about? But this is one of

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my family's stories. Was with my dad and his hunting buddy,

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and they used to go up particularly near McGowan and

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Shotgun Creek, and there's this place called Old Camp Creek Road,

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and people that are familiar with the area will probably

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know that if you go drive down to the end

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of the road there, there's like some old blm land,

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but there's some roads that you can still go on.

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It's not forestry land. You can still go up there,

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and people go and throughout these different spots looking for deer.

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Back then, I'm a little bit older now, gonna give

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away some of that, but this was like nineteen eighty nine,

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so it was a lot more remote then, and there's

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still abundance of deer out there, but it was just

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a lot more remote than it is now. There's been

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more building and lots of fires. They were going into

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serious timber country and they were seasoned hunters. They know

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these woods like the back of their hand, basically familiar

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with every sound like anything. They'd be like on it.

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They were really good at tracking, and I guess what

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they were talking about was they were telling my mom

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the story and I was sitting there listening. Was there

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was this sudden, deep, guttural, grunting noise and it wasn't

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like any other animal that they had ever heard in

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the forest out there, and it was like heavier, not

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quite like a bear sound. And my dad was instantly like,

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that's not that's something different, and he said that there

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was this kind of weird, strange smell that came over

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and he it was like really musky, deep woodsy smell,

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kind of yeah, like an animal musk if you will,

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and if you're a hunter, you get a nose for

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that kind of stuff. So it was really pungent. And

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he said it just washed over the area and he

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was hearing this sound and smelling this scent, and he

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looks around in his friends, do you hear that? And

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he's yeah, And then all of a suddenly they heard

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this earth shattering crack and it was like some it

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wasn't quite like a shotgun, but it was like somebody

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took something and hit it really hard. And now, like

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after the fact, I pretty much have figured out that

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that was tree knocking, and it seems like it was

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trying to scare them away, is what my dad had said.

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That it was not really like violent or aggressive, but

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that they had gotten up there in the woods near

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something or in an area it didn't want them to

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be in. And he said that his friend was like, no,

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there's something up there. I can see it. And he

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looked through the woods, but it was really hard to

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like completely make out, but it was like a tall

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entity and it had like darkish blackish fur and it

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was standing just like looking at them, and it had

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really like intense, like dead on them eyes and they

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were both just frozen.

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What do we do?

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And my dad was like, this seems like it might

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be bigfoot.

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We should let's just get out of here.

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So then they turned around and they went back to

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their truck and they came back, and they immediately came back.

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And that's part of the reason why this conversation stands

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out so much because it was like a core memory

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for me, was because they came back early. And my

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mom was like, you guys, didn't you didn't maximize the

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hunting day.

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What's going on?

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And they started like, no, there was something weird out

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there and we didn't want to stick around. So they

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just after hearing that grunt and then that loud crack.

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They were gone.

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So you said Shotgun Creek and that's up by Marcola, right.

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Yes, And Marcola was a place that they would often

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go to like stage and get gear before they would

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go up there. And you can get to McGowan and

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you can also go out Camp Creek like through a

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couple of different intersectional roads out this way, so it's

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like Markcola bleeds in and Shotgun Creek is the closest

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to Marcola store, and it was they started to go

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out Shotgun Creek that day. He never really told me

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or took me to the exact location that it happened,

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but he was just like, if you go up there,

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only go to know, you know the places that are

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like where they do the ATV or they do the

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shooting range, or go up there to the summit. Don't

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go further up driving around. And he always kind of

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warned me not to do that.

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Oh, that's really interesting. That is actually an area that

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has That area is starting to come up more and

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more over the last few months. For some reason, came

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up in another episode where Guy found a flipped bronco

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and some weird stuff out in the woods and possible

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nests and hearing weird stifled breathing. Just a large figure

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ran away from them too in the trees. Sounds like

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a really weird area. And it is it out there

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in the sticks a bit.

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It's the way it seems. It's not very far from

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Springfield when you think about it, so oh, you can

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get back, like you can get back to the super

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Walmart and no time at all, within ten to fifteen minutes.

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But because of the way the mountains are in the

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logging roads, you can go up there and you can

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get lost in the thick of everything, and like some

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of them are gated off and they're just not even

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opened for years. One time I actually went out there

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and we experienced where we went down one.

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Of these roads.

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And this is off topic, but just to give you

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some insight, it had an open gate that hadn't been

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open for years. It looked like it was a great road,

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and we ended up breaking an axle.

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So yeah, oh man, that that's some scary stuff especially,

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and and gates that are open can become closed when

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you're in there too. That that's another thing. But yeah,

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those roads, those four service roads I tried to drive.

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Do you know where Hills Creek Reservoir is down by Oakridge? Yes, yeah,

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the big one. So I got the bright idea this

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last time, I'm going to go across the bridge onto

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the other side and I was going to try to

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find that boy scout camp with the hot springs. Did

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not turn out well, I had to I was going

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up a hill. I was like, I'm going to break

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an axle. So I had to go backwards down this

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hill with like almost breaking axels. And I was like, Oh,

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I don't know if I should be out here by myself.

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This is not a wise choice. Goes the show that

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definitely just be careful out there, guys when you're on

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these Oregon service roads. Go with someone who knows what

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they're doing and be prepared. But so that was the

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first thing that pretty much you had heard where you're

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hearing this family Bigfoot story.

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Yes, And then I started to get older, and when

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I was about nine, my dad started gold prospecting in

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Myrtle Creek and that was when I had my first

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weird experience of like my own where I was like,

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maybe they're not just tall and telling me tall tales

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so I won't be scared of the woods. I was

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about nine, like I said, and it was the spring,

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and we were actually my dad at that time was

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living in Myrtle Creek and he was prospecting, and they

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were out at this one remote location not far from

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Myrtle Creek, but it was just like one of their

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spots where they were prospecting for goals, so not everybody

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got to know where it was. And we were spending

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the week with him, but he still had to work.

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So he had made an agreement with his boss that

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since he was camping on site, if he made sure

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that we stayed in certain areas, could we come camp

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with him. And of course, my dad raised his kids

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to be like woodsy and smart and listen and pay

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attention and all those kinds of things, so he knew

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that if he told us to stay in certain areas

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that we would listen. For the most part, every kid

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has moments where they test their parents. But so we

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got to go and we were camping down there, and

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my dad was down and he was panning, and he

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was teaching my little brother how to pan, and I

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already knew how to do that, so I was not

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that invested or interested at nine playing with dirt and water.

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So I was like, I'm going to go for a

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walk over here through this field just when he's okay,

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don't go past the spot at the wood the forest

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line where I told you, and just watch out for anything,

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because there could be cougars or there could be squatch.

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And that was exactly what he said, is exact words,

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watch out for cougar's or squatch.

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Oh wow.

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I was like, are you kidding me?

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Dad? And I walk out there and I didn't think

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anything of it. I was a skeptic at this point.

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They're over doing their thing. There was nobody else around there.

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It was the like one o'clock in the afternoon, bright day,

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beautiful oregan day, honestly for the spring. And I'm just

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walking through this field like a kid collecting daisies daydreaming board.

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And all of a suddenly I hear like this breathing sound,

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and then another one of those little knocks. But it

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wasn't like the cracking, loud one like my dad described.

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It was just like a little tiny, just a little

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bit of an echo. And I turn around and at

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first I thought maybe my dad was messing with me,

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and him and my brother come around and they were

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like in on the sidelines in the trees or something.

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But there was nobody there and I didn't see anything.

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That was the weirdest thing about this experience. But I

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was like, you, you're just freaking out because you know

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what my dad just said, Just keep walking, don't if

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you see anything, go back to the camp. Don't be scared.

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Continue walking. I hear it again, turn around, still nothing.

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After I heard it the third time, I was like, no,

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you know what, I don't know what that is, but

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there's something out here that is smart enough to to

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signal like that, and whatever it's doing, watching and doing

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that doesn't make me comfortable and I don't want to

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test it. So I went back and I told my dad,

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and he of course went back to, what did I

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tell you there're a squatch out here? Like, we're way

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out here in Myrtle Creek is pretty remote. Honestly, Douglas

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County is really thick den it's forestry.

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So yeah, man, that's something to experience as a nine

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year old. Did you ever have a conversation with your

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dad later in life anything. Okay, did something happen to

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you when you're prospecting down there to make you talk

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like that to us? Be careful to squatchr out here.

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He said when they first got down there that that

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same smell was around one of the time when they

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were just starting to set stakes and set the camp,

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and they had different kind of equipment because he was

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working for a company, he had like real prospecting equipment

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and stuff, and so he was like skeptical, but he

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didn't hear any more knocking or anything. And he walked

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around the parameter and he was like, I didn't see

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anything specific, but just the smell and the fact that

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they were out so far and a lot of the

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locals had told him that they had sasquatch experiences up

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there was why he felt that way. And then when

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I told him that I heard the knocking like that,

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and there's nobody there were three people, me, my brother,

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and my dad that were in that vicinity. And he

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knew that for sure because he was very and with

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the company too, having to make sure the equipment didn't

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get stolen and stuff like that. They were very vigilant.

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And yeah, he didn't say that he had any weird

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experiences directly or that he's seen or heard anything, just

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that one smell, and on account of what he had

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heard from locals, he didn't want to test it. And

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one of the things that I got told when I

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was young, because I do have some Native relatives as well,

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was that watch like to take young girls or young

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maidens women. So I don't know if they did that

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to do the boogeyman effect, but that was enough for

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me when I heard that.

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At that point, you're nine years old and you had

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this very strange thing happen when you're out with your father.

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Are you one hundred percent then okay, Bigfoot is real,

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it's out there? Or are you still I don't know,

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maybe it was a bird or something.

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At that point, I had actually had a weird experience

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just the summer before at Hasda Head, which was totally

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unrelated to this, but because of it, I started to

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open my mind a little bit more and I was like,

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wait a minute, and that Hasidahead, like I said, totally unrelated,

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wasn't about sasquatch, but it was enough to make me

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go maybe some of the local tales that happen here

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aren't just made up.

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Tall tales.

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Maybe I need to be a little bit more open

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minded and consider the source of what I'm being told

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and their experiences and not.

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Just be such a skeptic.

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When my dad had given me that warning and that

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experience happened, I didn't test it. I just was like,

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for the rest of the duration that I was there,

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I stayed near the camp, I didn't I was like, Nope,

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I don't need to find out more from where I'm at.

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Yeah. Absolutely, It's so weird because I'm looking at the

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map at the same time. I know stuff happens down there,

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but there is such a gaping hole inciting reports around

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Myrtle Creek and Roseberg right now, and I think some

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of that might be just people that know things might

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not want to come on record about it because I

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know stuff happens down there.

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As far as like that experience with me. Then I

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after that happened, and I went and I told my

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dad about it. When I got back, I talked to

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my mom about it, and that's the native side of.

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My family comes from my mom.

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And I talked to her and my uncle who most

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of their life they grew up the Mackenzie and they

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were like near Blue River, which a lot of these

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places are burned up now, but they grew up where

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a majority of the holiday farm fire was out there.

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My mom told me that one time her and my

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uncle were swimming out at mean Crazy Bridge and they

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were just this is something they did all the time.

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So this was the middle of the day and they

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were both said that they were chilling swimming and they

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were startled by the sound of something moving in the

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bushes and it was really fast and like the bushes

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were like shaken really fast, and they didn't know what

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was coming through because they were like because they're in

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the middle of the water, in the middle of the woods,

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and they were expecting that they were going to see

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a big animal, like a bear maybe, and nothing came.

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Though they seen the movement, but nothing came bumbling through

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brush and so they're like, okay, what was that? And

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I guess they were like ten and eleven at this time,

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and so my uncle, he was he's the younger one.

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He was like, come on, let's go check it out.

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My mom was like, no, there's something wrong out there,

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and they she didn't want to, but reluctantly because he

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decided to just go running after it, She's okay, so

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I'm going to follow after him. She goes, and she

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follows after him, and they went some distance into the

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woods until he stopped because he said that he seene

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a dark, hairy figure similarly to like what my dad's

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buddy had seen, and it had eyes intentally staring at

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them like it was trying to like it wanted like

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from the beginning, it did the whole bush shaking thing

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to draw their attention, like to lure them in. And

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after that he remembered the native stories and my mom

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was with him, and he was like, no, we need

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to go back. I think it wants to take you.

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And they ran away. And so then after that, I'm like, okay,

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so now I've got it from both my dad and

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my mom's and you're more likely to start believing something

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once both of your parents believe it. That's always a thing, right,

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So I think that definitely opened my mind even more.

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But then I left Oregon for a while and I

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didn't come back until January twenty fourteen, and at that time,

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Bigfoot immediately came right back into my life. It was

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funny because I was with a friend group and a

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person who ended up becoming my boyfriend and is now

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my ex boyfriend. In that friend group, him and two

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of our mutual friends had all had an experience like

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two three years before up Shotgun Creek as well. These

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were three guys that liked to go, for lack of

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a better word, drifting around the woods doing things, being

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crazy and real junkies. But they happened to be going

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up Shotgun just to drive around to do that.

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And my ex was.

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Trying to become a drift racer as a profession, had

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some kind of excuse for doing it. But anyway, so

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they were going up there doing this, and they had

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been doing it for a while, and they decided to

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just pull off and take a break, and they were

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sitting there talking and it was starting to get to dusk,

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and wherever they had pulled off up there at Shotgun

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Creek was off on one of these log roads. Still

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can't identify which one. I know that if this has

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happened on enough of those logwoods that you're more than

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likely to find it if you do it enough. But anyway,

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so they are pulled off and all of a suddenly

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something comes up and it comes on the back of

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the car and I My theory is the reason why

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I chose to do this was because of them acting

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like hooligans and making noise and drifting around, knocking rocks

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around and stuff like that. Right, and it came up

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and it lifted like the back of the bumper, and

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it shook the car. And as they look back, they

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said that they've seen a hairy man that was like

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And this is the best description I got from anyone

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that actually really saw it, because my ex was the driver.

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I looked in the rear view mirror and I could

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see like the ape band of the eyebrow and the

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eyes and they were angry and red, and this thing

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was like trying to rip back of my car off,

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like it was trying to get us. And I slammed

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on the gas and got out of there. And the

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other two guys that were in the car when it

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happened were right there sitting there and they're like, that

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is exactly what happened, and we all saw it.

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Oh my goodness. And just to clarify, so when you

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say like drifting, so like in Fast and Furious Tokyo

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drifts like that kind of Oh my goodness, that makes

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this story so good, So they're like drifting around for

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service roads, and then Bigfoot gets mad and just like

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stap it and just lifts like, oh it's such a

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good account.

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Yeah great, I was told this that. I'm like, holy crap.

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So then you know that that brings me to the

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antidote that happened with my brother and my uncle, which

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was actually on worm Springs.

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Res Oh nice. I never hear stuff from there.

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This one. I have to be careful because I have

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to respect the native culture. And that's part of the

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reason why I'm telling this antidote is because it's a

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warning to other people. Okay, if you ever do get

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a chance to go on to worm Springs and you're

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invited by any of the natives and they tell you

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not to go to certain spots, do not go to them.

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Don't ask them why, don't.

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Just don't.

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That's basically the long and short of that. But the

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story goes, so my uncle is actually really good friends

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with most of the elders on the council at Worm Springs,

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and this comes from a lot of the things that

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he's done to help the community and mutual aid and

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stuff like that, which is important to talk about because

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it is Native American Heritage Month to respect them and

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help them and listen to their stories. So this one's

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really cool and also scary. My brother was invited with

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my uncle to go up there to camp on the

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edge of the treaty line. And what I mean by

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that is within Warm Springs. When they got pushed to

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that reserv it's in the middle of the desert. Really,

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there were other things, and there are two things that

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they'll tell you that they that were there when they

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got there, and that was the little people and Bigfoot,

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and that since they had to go live on these lands,

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the elders decided to make a treaty agreement with both

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the little people and Bigfoot that they would go so

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far to where the river was, and that none of

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their people would go to pass the halfway point of

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the river. And as long as no one goes past

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the halfway point of the river, that the treaty agreement

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between the creatures and the.

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People would be. There would be peace.

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They wouldn't come and take anything from the people, they

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wouldn't mess with them. So my brother got invited with

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my uncle to go do that and also participate in

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Sweat Lodge, which are honors.

468
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:48.880
Yeah, totally, and.

469
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.599
There was one other gentleman who had also been invited

470
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.160
to do the same. Unfortunately, he was not able to

471
00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:58.240
continue because when they got there, the first things that

472
00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:01.000
they were told is, look, these are the rules. This

473
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:03.319
is the treaty line. You don't go past it. If

474
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:06.799
you hear anything over there on that side of the

475
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:13.119
bank of the embankment of the river, whether it's howling, knocking, screaming, shrieking, anything,

476
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:16.880
you ignore it. And you don't go over there if

477
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:18.720
you fear it. Because they brought dogs with them, if

478
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.960
you fear that your dogs will go chase after the noise,

479
00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:23.519
you need to make sure that your dog is kinneled

480
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:27.039
and tied up in your tent or under control as

481
00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:31.960
soon as dusk falls, because if your dog runs over there,

482
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:35.640
you can't go after it. You're not allowed to go

483
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.400
over there. If you go over there, you will be

484
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.279
immediately removed from the rest. My brother and my uncle

485
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:45.160
are like, okay, that's fine. So then the course of

486
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:49.160
the night begins and everybody's having a good time, and

487
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.880
then it gets like my brother said, it was like

488
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:55.119
ten o'clock at night, and the other gentleman that was

489
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.559
there with them decided for some.

490
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.640
Reason that he was hot. He wanted to go swimming.

491
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.880
So he starts going towards the water, and they're like,

492
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.440
you should really not go over there, and he's, no, wait,

493
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:10.519
you guys, hear something.

494
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:11.519
I'm hearing something.

495
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:17.559
This is just so weird, all of it, but they're listening.

496
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:21.039
And then the dog, my dog, my uncle's dog, Angel,

497
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:24.440
she stood up on her haunches and all the hair

498
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.400
went up on her back and she started barking. And

499
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:28.720
this dog was a Golden Retriever who was on point,

500
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.759
like she lived for eighteen years, and she was used

501
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.519
to going in the wildest wilds with him. But she

502
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:37.920
also didn't move because he told her to stay. But

503
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.519
she's still she was growling, sitting like that with her

504
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.960
teeth snarled, And this man continued to run through the water.

505
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.400
So finally the elders see that he's going to go

506
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.920
past excuse me, and they run out there towards him,

507
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.279
and they grab him and they pull him out of

508
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.480
the river, and they went and they got a car,

509
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.799
made him pack up everything and drove him off the

510
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:04.119
whoa And my brother said, for the rest of the night.

511
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.200
Even after that happened, they heard shrieking, screaming, knocking on

512
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.960
wood cracks. It was, like he said, as much as

513
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.799
it was beautiful, it was the worst sleep ever because

514
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.000
you were sitting there every single little thing and you

515
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.559
heard it louder than you would ever expect because there's

516
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:22.640
nothing else out there.

517
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:29.480
Oh my goodness. That And I've driven through the Warm

518
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.000
Springs Reservation, but I'm not overly familiar with it. Is

519
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.759
this talking about how the border of the reservation is

520
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:41.799
the to Shoot River? Yes, okay, I get it all right,

521
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:43.559
very interesting.

522
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:45.920
He described it.

523
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.079
He's like, is this one little spot that they do

524
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.000
these things that's considered kind of ceremonial ground. So it's

525
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:55.319
not like it's the whole to Shoots River. It's just

526
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.920
a specific area. And my theory is that might be

527
00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:58.799
a nesting ground.

528
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.799
Oh yeah, I mean, I don't think it's out of

529
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:06.440
the question. It's a beautiful area to drive through. It's

530
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.839
weird because you drive down from out hood and it's

531
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.960
just forest and then all of a sudden it comes

532
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:17.160
into high desert and you go through canyons, and if

533
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.440
you've never it's just like you're getting a little taste

534
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.599
of the American West, like the old view of it.

535
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.559
It's very cool so be a pioneer.

536
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.000
Yeah, no, it really is. Yeah, it was cool to

537
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.039
see a guy from Iowa who doesn't really get to

538
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.720
see that stuff. It was pretty cool. But thank you

539
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.920
for sharing that story from Warm Springs. I've always wanted

540
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.440
to talk to someone about that area. I've even tried

541
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:46.519
to reach out to elders on the reservation. I haven't

542
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:50.759
gotten anything yet, but I do appreciate you sharing that story.

543
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.880
It's very hard to get brought to that point. And

544
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.079
that is also another reason why when my brother told

545
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.440
me with my uncle with him, they both told me together, look,

546
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.680
well we'll tell you what happened, but we're going to

547
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.599
leave some things out, and we can never tell you

548
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:05.440
where it happened.

549
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.920
Did they ever have so after they so, they eventually

550
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.640
both get home, they're off the reservation. Did anything weird

551
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.720
happen after that or no residual things? Yeah?

552
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:21.559
Not to them. No, I can't tell you if anything

553
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.960
happened to the other gentlemen. And I don't think that

554
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.680
from the way that it went down, my dad, my brother,

555
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.480
or my uncle wanted to have any affiliation because they

556
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.920
didn't want to lose respect. That they had named.

557
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:39.240
Yeah makes sense. Wow, Yeah, very cool. And what year again,

558
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:40.079
would you say?

559
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:40.319
That was?

560
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:41.039
Approximately?

561
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:42.680
I think twenty fifteen?

562
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:49.119
Okay, twenty fifteen? Okay, cool, cool, cool, Wow, that is fantastic.

563
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:50.279
Thank you for sharing that.

564
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.960
And that pretty much brings me to my personal own

565
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.440
experience as an adult before I tell you some of

566
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.880
my theories of why I think they're starting to show

567
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:01.799
up in more places.

568
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:02.599
Awesome.

569
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.200
So with me the same ex that had the experience

570
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.440
in the car at Shotgun Creek, except this time him

571
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.799
and I were driving. So my dad happened to live

572
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.720
in Cottage Grove at this time, and there's a back

573
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.240
road called Goudyville that can connect if you take it

574
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.680
to go through Cottage Grove and get through the back

575
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:24.920
roads and connect back to basically the Territorial Highway and

576
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.640
that goes through Lorraine and Crow and Venina and all that.

577
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.240
But before so we had driven through Goudyville. We were

578
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.440
on Territorial Highway and we pulled off on Wolf Creek,

579
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:40.759
which is between like that area of Cottage Grove and Lorraine,

580
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.359
and locals will recognize that name pretty well. Wolf Creek

581
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.759
is very close to Crow. And also there's some places

582
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.160
up there like Panther Creek and other notable places, and

583
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:54.799
it connects to the backside of No Tie so too

584
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.480
a lot of different forestreet angles. But yeah, we were

585
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.799
up at Wilf Creek. We had decided to stop there

586
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.799
because there's this really pretty spot and water that we

587
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:08.440
usually liked to just stop and talk at and I

588
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.519
take pictures or whatever. At this particular time, he happened

589
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.440
to me to have a rest break, and so he

590
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.279
pulls up to this Why and it's a pretty known

591
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.359
why intersection at Wolf Creek on the Log Road, and

592
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.720
he parked like on the side of the road, and

593
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.720
then he walked across the road in the apex of

594
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.359
the y if you will, to stand by a tree

595
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.319
so that he could relieve himself. While he's doing that,

596
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.480
and again it's the it's not even dust yet. It's

597
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:44.240
maybe four o'clock, but it was the summertime, and this

598
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.319
was in twenty nineteen. I decide that, okay, here's an

599
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:50.240
opportunity I should probably pee too. So I decide to

600
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.720
open the door that way I can if somebody does

601
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:55.400
come happen to go by, I'll.

602
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.880
Be in between the car and the door.

603
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.559
Somebody will see me, and I'm not thinking anything about

604
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.039
the trees behind me. No, sooner do I get my

605
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:08.480
breeches down. I hear a huge loud knocking sound, but

606
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.759
it's not far away. It's beside my ear, like boom.

607
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.279
And my ex heard it and he's WHOA, what was that?

608
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.119
And I did as fast as I could to not

609
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:24.000
pee on myself and pulled my plants up, and I

610
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:25.559
was like, I don't know, and then all of a

611
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:30.640
suddenly again the same whack. After the second whack, I

612
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.240
was like, uh uh, nope, and I slammed the door.

613
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.720
And he is still trying to get hisself together from

614
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:41.720
across the road, and he heard it and he knew

615
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.599
why I decided to slam the door. And I was

616
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:47.480
looking at him like, come on, let's go. And apparently

617
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.039
as he was coming back to walk across the road,

618
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.960
he said that he saw like a nine foot tall

619
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:57.279
figure hairy man run across the road like maybe four

620
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.799
feet from him from the forest where I was that

621
00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:02.799
was to my back, across the road to the other

622
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.000
side where he was peeing. And I said, so you

623
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.839
saying you've seen a sasquatch And he goes, oh, absolutely,

624
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.039
and it ran that way and we're not sticking around.

625
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.200
Oh wow, and he gets the car.

626
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.759
Pills out and we're gone, and that is That was

627
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.160
the one that made me go I am absolutely a

628
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.480
believer at this point. There's just too much things that

629
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.759
have happened. There's just too many people, too many incidences,

630
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:32.640
and how it all overlaps. I don't see why all

631
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.400
these people that I've known all my life or in

632
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.079
all these different experiences would tell me these things.

633
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.559
About the woods if it's not real.

634
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.680
My theory on why we're starting to see more is

635
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.279
because I think, especially with referencing Mackenzie, the Holiday farm

636
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:49.559
fire was huge, it burned for a long time, it

637
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.000
burned a lot of woods, and we've had multiple in

638
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.519
the last probably since twenty sixteen ish, we've had several

639
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.000
very large forest fires all throughout the state that have

640
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.039
burned up old growth areas. And I think that all

641
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.839
of our wildlife that's starting to look for places to

642
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.279
thrive and live that they're having.

643
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:10.680
To come down to.

644
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.039
I agree with you one hundred percent on that. That

645
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.559
lines up exactly with a lot of interviews that I've

646
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.119
done lately. Two years ago, when I went out to

647
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.400
Oakridge for the first time there was a huge fire

648
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.039
in the Oakridge area, and I mean that July, people

649
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.400
from our group were having sightings all over the place.

650
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.519
And so one hundred percent the fires have something to

651
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.519
do with it. It has got to be the fires,

652
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.160
which is too bad because the fires are terrible. I'm

653
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.960
not a big fan of the fires. I don't think

654
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.480
anyone is out there either.

655
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.319
But controlled burns I understand. I thineah logic and like

656
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.359
we have some floor in Faunta that has to but

657
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.039
a lot of this is not. It's man made, either

658
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.440
negligence or stupidity. And then some of these though, they

659
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.720
were like the Holiday fire and fire I believe was

660
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.400
a lightning strike fire, and it was just horrible. And

661
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.239
it's going to take probably forty years before it's all

662
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.239
the same, and so all of that anything that was

663
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.280
up there, it's going.

664
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.320
To have to go find new places for resources.

665
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:23.079
This last year, I've I learned firsthand just how you

666
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.039
have to be really careful with large fires out there,

667
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.159
like the Prineville one. Yeah, when I was driving through

668
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.480
Warm Springs, I actually drove too close to that fire

669
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.480
and it got to the point where I was pretty much. Almost.

670
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.840
I almost passed out a few times driving, which is

671
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:46.360
extremely scary. That's your really close buddy, And thankfully I

672
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.840
was able to drive west to Sisters and get out

673
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.880
of there. But man, that was so scary. It was

674
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.440
absolutely scary stuff. You do not mess around with fires

675
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:00.239
out there, anyone who's listening, Do not mess around with them.

676
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.800
Yeah, take the warning seriously because it's not just the

677
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.400
actual flame, it's everything else that you would not think

678
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.079
of like it. The flame is dangerous, don't get me wrong,

679
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.960
But the way that it travels through the air and

680
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.039
the way that it stifles the oxygen is yeah.

681
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.599
Oh that's true. That is true.

682
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.119
Are insane.

683
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.280
So after you've had all these anecdotes from different people

684
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.719
in your family and your friends, and then you've had

685
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.079
these experiences yourself, how has this affected the way that

686
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.039
you view and you treat this. It's a phenomenon that

687
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.440
happens in the region where you live. Is it something

688
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.880
where you're drawn to it? Now, maybe you go out

689
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.480
looking yourself or you're just treating with respect.

690
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.199
Or I wouldn't say I'm an avid bigfoot hunter. I

691
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.519
don't go out of my way to go find things.

692
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:01.079
I do treat it with respect. I feel well, especially

693
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.199
after some of the things that I've heard from natives

694
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.840
about the way that they are and even being able

695
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.840
to if it is intelligent enough to make treaties, what

696
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:13.840
does that say about it?

697
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:14.840
You know what I'm saying?

698
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.920
So true to me, that's just I feel like maybe

699
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:22.360
it's just an unknown simian species we haven't completely got

700
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.320
to understand. And I look at it as I would

701
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.440
any other thing in the natural space. Protect it, protect

702
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.400
and respect the spaces, conserve them to the best of

703
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:38.519
your ability, and don't harass nature. Just let mother and

704
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:39.559
nature do what it does.

705
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:40.199
Respect it.

706
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.480
If it's given you the warning sign that it doesn't

707
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.079
want you there, leave But that's the way I feel about.

708
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:53.320
It, absolutely, absolutely, so thank you for sharing your experiences

709
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.599
in your accounts. We also talked about, or at least

710
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:58.760
we mentioned at the beginning that you are an author.

711
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:01.760
Do you mind Jaron a bit about what kind of

712
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.360
books you've written or so people can maybe check those out.

713
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:06.639
I would love to.

714
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.639
I'm really more of a multi genre author, but I

715
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:14.960
tell people because I write a lot of paranormal stuff

716
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.519
that I mostly paranormal, but I've also done suspense and romance,

717
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.079
and so most accurately, i'd say I'm a Gothic author.

718
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.679
Biggest influence was enn Rice. I actually have a new

719
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.440
release that's coming out on Friday. It's in the romanticy

720
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.360
genre and not totally related to all of this stuff,

721
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.639
but all of the mystical and mythical and folklore, if

722
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.199
you will, is what really influences me. And because it's

723
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.639
folklore and that can cross so many different intersectional genres

724
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.360
and belief systems and cultures, I've noticed that's what's showing

725
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.639
up a lot and what I write, whether it be

726
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.079
romance like the Romanticy or some of the horrors like

727
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.840
I'm also about to be featured in an anthology from

728
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.280
a publisher named Wicket Shadow Press. It's called Unholier Than

729
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.199
Thou and it's a two part anthology, so I'm going

730
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.760
to be in the second volume I believe it's called

731
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.079
Dark Divinity for a story called The Vessel, and the

732
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.239
Vessel is a sci fi kind of religious horror, if

733
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:20.559
you will.

734
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.400
Yeah, Wow, WHOA. What's the name of the book that

735
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:27.320
is going to be out on Friday.

736
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.599
It is called Embracing His Empire. And again, like I said,

737
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:36.719
it's a romanticy. It's got like empirical influences, like I'm

738
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:41.519
very fascinated by Roman and Greek mythology and history and

739
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.480
stuff like that, and so it's kind of loosely empirical

740
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.039
like that, but it's also on a fictional planet that

741
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:51.360
I created. It's the first in the series, and it's

742
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.920
the series is called The Captive Heart of Pretus.

743
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:57.440
Nice. That's cool. Good thing is when people listen to this,

744
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.559
it will already be out, because this will be out

745
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.840
past that Friday. Is what's the best place for people

746
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.719
to check out books that you've written.

747
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.599
I have some that are just and kindles unlimited, which

748
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.480
embracing as Empire. With my publisher, they decided to go

749
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.920
ahead and just put it in KDP, so you can

750
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.400
get it on Amazon, and it is on preorder right now,

751
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.480
so even if this is airing after the date it

752
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.199
is on pre order, you'll know that and other ones

753
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.960
though I have twenty four different titles out and then

754
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.920
again obviously I'm in several anthologies as well, that just

755
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.920
depends on who the publisher was, and most of them

756
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.920
are available on like your common like Barnes and Noble.

757
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:42.639
All of them are on Amazon. Some of them are

758
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.719
on like Kobu and things like that. You can find

759
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.199
me just about anywhere if you google sim Marie Johnson fantastic.

760
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.360
Hopefully we'll have listeners check that out. I'll have the

761
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:58.400
links to those where you can check out size work

762
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:03.400
down in the descript or the show notes for this episode.

763
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:07.280
But it has been really fun talking to you today side.

764
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.440
Thank you for sharing some anecdotes and some experiences from

765
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.079
from your life. And we're going to cut this short

766
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:22.000
because the northern lights are causing havoc to my electronics

767
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:22.440
right now.

768
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:23.679
Yeah.

769
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.480
Yeah, the geomagnetic storm has been kind of crazy.

770
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.320
I need to I'm sorry, I do need to shut

771
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.039
this down because I can hear everything going.

772
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.480
Like all right, it was great to meet you. Thank

773
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:36.159
you for having me.

774
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.239
Absolutely Before we wrap this episode, I want to say

775
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.719
something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If

776
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you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if

777
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you've seen something that no one can explain, or if

778
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.559
you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been

779
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.840
told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen

780
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.199
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

781
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.880
the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've

782
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.000
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

783
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.440
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

784
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.800
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

785
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:18.119
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

786
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.280
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

787
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.800
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

788
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.679
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

789
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.079
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

790
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.079
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

791
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.599
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

792
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.400
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

793
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.119
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

794
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.599
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

795
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.960
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

796
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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

797
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:04.599
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

798
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.000
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

799
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:11.880
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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801
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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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