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Join us as we hear from Fred, a lifelong resident of Colorado, who recounts his extraordinary encounters with Bigfoot over the years. From eerie fog-filled canyons of Morrison to the dense forests near Bear Creek, Fred shares detailed tales including...

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Season 1

Join us as we hear from Fred, a lifelong resident of Colorado, who recounts his extraordinary encounters with Bigfoot over the years. From eerie fog-filled canyons of Morrison to the dense forests near Bear Creek, Fred shares detailed tales including a face-to-face encounter in Yellowstone, unsettling rock-throwing episodes, and sightings in iconic locations like Vail and Bailey.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the

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privilege of talking to Fred today. Fred from Colorado. We

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got connected through Facebook and Fred's had some really interesting

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things happen over the years. How's it going today, Fred?

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Oh?

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Very good, awesome? You know what we were talking about.

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How you know this is your time to share you

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know what you've experienced. So Fred, I'm going to go

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ahead and give this right over to you. You know,

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feel free to take us back as far as we

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need to go. When you started experiencing some things related

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to Bigfoot.

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Out there, all right. Well, it was back in ninety seven,

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I think it was March. I was working for a

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food company and the first stop I had was Morrison

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in up in Morrison. So when I got up there

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that that morning, it snowed and just a real wet

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snow and heavy fog through the canyon, and I made

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the delivery. We have keys, so we open up the

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restaurant and deliver it. And so I'm heading out of

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town and the fog is so thick. The only street

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light in town and it looked like a laser going

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through the fog. It was so thick. So I started

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out of town up up in the canyon. Then Bear

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Creek runs through there, and as I was heading up

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the canyon, the fog was rolling down the canyon. But

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I saw something crawling out of the Bear Creek up

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on the road, and so I slowed down and then

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I just stopped. I didn't set the air brakes, I

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just stopped and this thing come out of Bear Creek,

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and I thought it looked like a large dog, hairy dog.

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And then when it got on the road, it started

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running towards my oh, my truck, my Kenworth. And as

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it was running towards the Kenworth, it it looked like

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a chepon pony because hair was flying all over on

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the whole the whole object, and just probably about fifty

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yards or forty yards in front of me, it got

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up on two legs and started pumping its arms, and

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it had long orangutang here like. And so as it

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kept coming at me, I set the air brakes, you know,

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which does a hiss of the air, you know, setting

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the air brakes, and I kicked my high beams on it,

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and it never even phased it. It just kept coming

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right at me, right at the truck. And then it

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went on the passenger side and the shoulder hit my

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mirror and folded it in. So that was pretty amazing.

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Then I thought to myself, I thought you guys were

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in the Oregon, you know. I'm kind of chuckled and thought, well,

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maybe they had a concert at the Red Rocks. But

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you know, you try to put in your mind that

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you know that what you saw wasn't what you saw,

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you know. And so off I go to make my deliveries.

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And then the next one was in four in a Yellowstone.

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We had all the had we had our four kids

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up there, and right after dinner I wanted to take David.

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He was seven. I was told my wife, I want

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to take him fishing. So and for this to this

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day I catch it from my daughters. They wanted to go,

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but you know, I wanted just me and him have

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time to do that. So we we were camped at

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the river's beIN campground and the Snake River runs around there.

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So there's a field once across the road, there's like

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a all about a forty foot field and then it

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goes in some trees and then then the Snake River

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is below you. So as we were walking through the

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got up to the trees, we heard this like little

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I kept something crying, you know, kind of where where

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And so I told David, you know, something's in distress.

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So I told him just keep low. And we come

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up to the river and we got, you know, on

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our bellies and looked off the edge and there was

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a go deer down on the sandbar in the Snake

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River and up on the hill and it was steep

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hill was the fun and it was the one kind

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of crying. So finally it decided it's coming down, and

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it slid down the hill on the other side of

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the where the river was and got in the river

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swam and the river took it down, but it swam

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up to the sandbar and got up next to mom,

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and you know, it's shaking the water off, and all

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of a sudden, the mom just looks up the river

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with its ears perked up. So we're real quiet. She

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doesn't know we're there. And so I'm looking up the

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river where it bends out of sight, but there's a

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really heavily wooded area where the river if it when

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it overflows it, it would flood that area. But I

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couldn't see anything, and all of a sudden, she turned

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and ran up that hill that they came down, and

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the fawn was right behind it. It didn't even cry

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at all. Boy, they got out of there. So we

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went down and started fishing. And as soon as I

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my son caught a fish, you know, he's excited and

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says he he's got a fish, you know, so tell him, well,

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you know, go ahead and reel it in. And he's

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reeling it in, and all of a sudden, we were

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down at the sandbar and right where we were was, oh,

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I would say, forty feet up in the air the

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bank was, and all of a sudden, these rocks start

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coming down. So I just thought it was somebody hiking,

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and I yell up there's like, hey, you're kicking rocks

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down on us, you know. And it stopped, and so

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I thought that's odd. So we're continuing fishing, and then

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David my Son catches another one, and then here come

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all these rocks. I mean there, I was expecting something

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to be sliding down the hill because the rocks were

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going into the river now, just to like a landslide.

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So he reeled in the fish and and I told him, well,

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we're we're going to go now, you know. And and

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he was kind of spooked too, so I told him

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we'll keep the fish on the stringer because my idea

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was there's a bear up there. Why it didn't come

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down because all them rocks, I thought something was coming down,

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And so it stopped. And we started out of there,

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and the sun's going down, and you know, you have

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those large shadows in the timbers, and and so my

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head's on a swivel making sure that I got a

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hold of, you know, his his back shirt just to

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make sure he stays in front of me, and we

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got through the trees and nothing happened. And that was

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just really strange. And the next one was two thousand

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and how wow. That all right. I do a lot

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of Indian sketching. I like Indian heritage stuff, and so

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I wanted to get some actual pictures of the fancy

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dancers and authentic Indian dress so I could draw my

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own pictures instead of photos that I would find, you know,

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on YouTube or something like that. And come out to

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my truck and there was a leaflet on there the Bigfoot.

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It was called Bigfoot Yetti Yawi Store. So you know,

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I always was fascinated about that. So off we go home,

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but I keep that card and I call the guy

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and he says, yeah, come on down. You know, he's

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just off of Colorade of Boulevard, and so it was

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down south. So I got off work, drove down there,

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and first time I met him was working on computer

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well computer work, and his story he had their hats

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all kinds of stuff about you know, bigfoot. So I

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got to talking to him and I asked him if

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you ever saw one? He goes, oh, yeah, I got

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pictures of him. So that intrigued me. It's like, okay,

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could I see him? And yeah, So went to the

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hallway in the back and he had him hanging up

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and sure enough, it looks like something big looking at you,

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you know, through the trees. So he explained he got

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that one on the backside of Pike's Peak. So oh,

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I would go down there quite a bit, try to

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pick his brain on. Okay, they're here in Colorado, what

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do you look for? So he was explaining that, well,

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what they look for is tree structures, broken trees, x's

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trees leaned in x'es. And he says, then you'll find

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makeshift teepees and then maybe you'll find a full tepiece.

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And I thought, oh wow, that's where do you go?

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And he said, well, you find the darkest woods, oldest

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growth in Colorado, in canyons or something like that, and

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he says that's where they'll be. So I thought, okay, well,

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there's a Golden Gate next to me. So I started

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going up to Golden Gate and I found this one trail.

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It was the mule Deer trail, and I figured, well,

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I'm going to walk down it, and I put my

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phone on record and just held it up, pointing up

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the mountain, you know, in the timber, as I walked

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down the trail. So when I got back to my truck,

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I watched the video, and in some points you could

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see something walking from tree to tree about fifty yards up,

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up in on you know, in the timber. It was

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following me, but staying well far away that you couldn't

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hear the steps or anything like that. So I thought

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it was, you know, some dude up there walking around,

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and didn't think much of it. And then then right

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when I then I went up there again and got

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off trail and walked into the woods, and I started

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finding all these xes, just like the guy explained that

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you would find. And when I saw the exes, I

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took my phone. I took pictures of them too, of

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how far they're shoved in the ground. You know, they

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weren't dead trees leaning on one another. They were placed there.

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So once I was taking pictures of them, how they're

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constructed and whatnot, just for my own like biography that

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I'm wanting to put together of what I'm doing. Way

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back in the trees, I saw this round object and

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so I zoomed in on the photo and it was

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a round head peeking around a tree at me when

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I was taking the photos. So I thought, oh, shoot,

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that's something. There might be something up here. And so

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out at work I was talking to my co workers

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at work about it, and they're thinking, I'm you know, ah,

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you're crazy, and I said, well, no, you just come

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with me and I'll show you. So this particular day,

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we were slow at work, and so I had a

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co worker that went with me up there. He said, yeah,

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I'm not doing nothing. Hey, I'll hang out with you.

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Let's go on up there. So we went up the trail,

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parked the truck and started up the trail. Now, as

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you first go in, you can go left or right.

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Now right. I've studied that area and there's small tree

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breaks and the xes that are made up there are small,

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almost like real young juveniles are learning how to, you know,

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do the bigfoot stuff of xes, broken trees, leaning branches

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up like teps, but they're small, and so I was

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thinking this must be the child's side. So then and

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then we when I took up my co worker, I

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thought we'd go down that trail because there's a lot

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of action down down, going left on the mule deer trail.

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So we started down the trail and I looked back

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at him and I said, we're going to go down

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here to a river bed that goes up the mountain.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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And I said that once we get up there, about

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two hundred yards, I said, then you'll see X's and

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they have teepees up there that I found, and he goes,

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oh okay, started walking down No sooner than I said that,

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just like on the warhead the Sierra Sounds where they

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do the oh oh, they did it twice real loud.

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I mean, it just stopped me in my tracks. So

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I turned the coworker that was with me and I said,

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did you hear that? He goes yeah, and I told

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him they're here, and then he says, what's here? And

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so I told them I'm going to price some hillbillies

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making this up putting tracks up putting you know, these trees,

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bent trees up. I said, why don't we just bul

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rushing And he looked at me, like what, And I said,

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there are probably people doing this. Let's just run up

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there and we're going to solve this bigfoot stuff. So

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I take off, and he takes off, but I go

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left then, kind of not right at the sound. I

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go left, thinking that he'll watch me and he'll stay

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behind me, right, you would think, But he goes straight

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and so I get up there and then I see

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him coming through the bushes and he's just sicker than

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a dog, just throwing up, throwing up, And I thought,

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how did you get so sick in that little bit

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of time? And he goes, I don't know, man, but

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I am. I've heard that when you get close to him,

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they can put out a verberation that can make you

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sick and almost like your car sick. So right then

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we heard him talk. And have you ever had people

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say that they sound like, oh samurai talk? Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,

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until you hear that up in the woods, and then

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you're like, that does exist? You know? Nice? And they

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were and when they would talk, something would shush him

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like sh and then keep talking like what do you know,

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kind of like real jabber. And so I said to

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my coworker do you hear that? And he's Spanish and

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he goes, yeah, man, somebody's up here with us, and

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I said, I don't hear one English word. Can you

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hear any Spanish word? And he goes no, no, no,

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no no, and he's freaking out looking around. And as

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they say they run like spiders. The shrubs that were

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up the hill, that were real thick, started to shudder

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and shudder to our right, and so I knew that

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they were they were gathering up, you know, trying to regroup,

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because when we went up there, they all honkered down

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and right where we stopped they were around us. So

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they were trying to regroup and that's why they kept talking.

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So so I told my coworker, hey, if we he

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pushing around this corner because it opens up, we might

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be able to get a picture of him. And so

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he turned, he shook his head, you know, like no,

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I'm done. I'm done with this fun adventure. And so

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as they were walking, you could hear their voices just

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getting softer, that Simmurai talk getting softer because they're walking away.

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And so I pull out my baseball that and I

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hit a tree twice, you know, bang bang, and one

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of them yelled back a ruja, and I thought, wow,

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I can remember that, you know. And what I found

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is that word really does spark something in them. That

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I don't know what it means, but you will get

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their attention using that word a ruja. So and that

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was October the thirteenth, and so I went up there

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with my grandson and that was twenty seventeen. And this

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this time is really interesting. It ties we went up

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there in early well time and there was an incident

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incident up there in October of the same year where

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a lady was attacked by she said, a bear, and

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that was in the fall. And so jeff Co went

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up there and they sent an ambulance to pick up

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the lady and they took her to Saint Anthony Hospital

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to have her checked out. And so they jeff Co

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Sheriff went up there with dogs and guns and they're

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they're hunting down a bear. But they said they couldn't

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find a bear because dogs will not track this. I mean,

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I don't care what kind of hardened dog do you have.

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Once they get a whiff of where to track, they

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won't go. I mean they'll lay on the ground. Because

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I had my dog up there and she did the

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same thing, and she never barked. She would see him

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in the woods and literally point at him. And if

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you walk by or she would lay down. She would

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not go down the trail anymore, and nor would she

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let you so. But anyway, it was on the news.

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You couldn't google it, Golden Gates State Park, Colorado bear

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attacks and it'll come up Channel seven news that the

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spring before this happened, I took my grandson up there

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and he wanted to find caves. So we're walking around

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up there and we find a few caves, well kind

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of rock outcrops that you know, I told them, well,

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could be a cave, you know, you pick some gunnage

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around it and you could stay pretty dry. So, you know,

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we're walking on up in there, and so I did

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a tree knocked as we got further in, and no

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sooner than I did, bam, bam, we're here a pop

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back again. And so my grandson said, Grandpa, you got

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to you gotta knock back. That's cool. I said, yeah,

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maybe it's somebody doing what we're doing. So we had

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on up there, and I've been doing a lot of

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bigfoot research of day watchers, and there was a tree

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that was snapped. I mean, oh, I'd say twelve feet

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twelve foot high and it was ran into these other

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trees and dunnage all around it. So I walked the

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end where all the dunnage was and it was matted down.

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I mean I all I had to do was just

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bend over and I could walk in there, and through

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the dunnage you could see the trail right below where

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when people's walking in, and it was at a high

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point where people are looking down going up the hill

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and looking down going down the hill. They aren't looking

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around or they would see this area. So I came

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out of there and I did a tree knock, you

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know twice, you know, bam bam, and then pop pop

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right back. So my grandson grinned, and he said that

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one's closer. So we're standing there and I'm thinking, oh wow,

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I wonder what's going on. You know, whatever did that,

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we're going to see it here in a minute. And

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then my grandson says, I hear something walking this way,

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So we back up, get down on a knee, and

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then now I can hear it, you know, and it's

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it's just like crunch crunch, and trees snap and snap, crunch, crunch.

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So I told them watch the top of these trees

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right over here. If they move, then it's probably an

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animal or you know, it's got to stay hidden. But

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if it's people, they're going to come up this open draw.

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So they go. So we're listening and then the trees

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start moving and he starts really eyes getting big, and

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then you heard this crunch, crunch, And now it's right

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in front of us, but we're about thirty feet above it,

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and so I yell out a ruhle to see what

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the reaction I would get. And I mean, here we

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are in Colorado and it's so forty minute us from

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my house, and you hear a chimpanzee first of all,

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going and then it went into something like on Ron

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moorehead when they start just gabbering jabber real loud, and

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then it screamed and you could fill it in your chest.

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And I looked at my grandson and he said, Grandpa,

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that's a big monkey. That's a gorilla. That's big, you know.

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And he was freaking out. And he's you know, and

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at fifteen, fifteen year old kids, they don't get freaked out,

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you know, going with grandpa, yeah, you know, but yeah

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he was getting freaked out. So I got up, walked

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to the edge, and I should have took a picture

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but I didn't. It's one of those inspontane anyous things

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that happen where you just wanna calm it down, And

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so I yelled, hey, settle down, you could have your

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spot back. We're leaving. So I motioned him to start

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walk behind me and then start down the hill to

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our right. You know, we're not going to go I

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knew the mountain fair really well, so I knew that

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if we head to the right, it'll gently go down

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into the trees, and it's open. There's no heavy brush area,

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so I can see if anything's gonna, you know, come

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darting after us. And we get down to the meadow,

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Fraser Meadow, and I took a picture of my grandson

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standing under this crock of this tree, and then off

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to the right in the aspen, it followed us down.

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I don't know how it did it, but it was

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about eight foot tall and it was just standing there

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looking at me. And what was scary about it was

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I was forty feet from my grandson and it was

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in between both of us, and its distance was about

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maybe twenty feet, and as big as that thing was,

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it could have been on either one of us. In

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two to three steps and so that was, oh, that

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was twenty seventeen. And I would go up and old

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place apples up on their exes by myself. Just I'd

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always wear the same clothes, you know, like safety vests

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and a cap, so you look the same, so they

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could identify you as that the same person that comes

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up all the time. And so I stopped doing that.

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And then that's when I was talking to a guy

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on Facebook about you know, tendency is of bigfoot and

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what they do, and and I told him I was

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feeding them and I stopped and he said, don't go

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up there alone anymore. If you stopped, he says, because

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they get pretty angry when you stop feeding them. So

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I kind of took heed to that. And I never

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went up there alone, but I did take my son

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up there, and we had his dogs and so we

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got half well, we got a ways from the truck

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and he goes, oh, I forgot to get water for

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the dogs, and so he went back down to the

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truck and I waited there in the woods. And have

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people locked of whistles when they're up in the woods. Absolutely, yeah, yeah,

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these whistles for this area is just and that's it.

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And when he left, then I heard, you know, a whistle,

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and then another whistle, and then all through the woods

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it was whistling. So they were whistling to each other

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that I was there. And so when my son came

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back with the water, he said, Dad, it is so

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quiet up here. You don't even hear nothing.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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I said, because they don't know you. They know me,

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but you are what's keeping me safe. And nothing came

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out of that, but those pictures that I sent you

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That particular day I was. I looked on the map

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and there was Fraser Valley. So I thought, you know,

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from three o'clock it was summertime. It doesn't get dark

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till about oh, seven point thirty eight o'clock. So I

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got off work at three and I got up there

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and started walking down that trail, and I figure, i'll

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just walk in. It's two miles in, two miles out

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to Fraser Valley, just to see if I see anything

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going this far, because I've never walked in this way.

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So I was walking in it got real quiet, real quiet,

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and I thought, wow, that's weird. You know, you can't

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hear a bird squirrel, any noise at all, and just

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then that's when I heard that whistle, and so I

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kept walking. I thought, that's weird, thank god, a bird,

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you know, and nothing at all for about seventy feet

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and then all of a sudden, same type of whistle.

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So I thought, now that's something watching me, you know.

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So I walked back to the first whistle and I

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sat on the rock and waiting for another whistle. Nothing.

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So I took a photo of that area, you know,

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to check it when I got home, and kept continued

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down the road down the trail, and when I got

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to the second whistle point, it didn't whistle. So I figured, well, maybe,

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you know, it's what I thought it was, you know.

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And then I got all the way down the trail

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till it turns and goes into the canyon, and then

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all of a sudden, you here is elongated, and that

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other words like yeah right, I'm watching you, and you know,

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I started getting goosebumps, and so I yelled out, you

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don't exist, just to make myself feel good. And so

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I kept walking in and I got to the meadow

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and it's there, oh artesian well or something. It just

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the water bubbles out of the ground in this valley,

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and there's a lot of footprints around it, deer mountain,

448
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:15.760
lying tracks or you know whatever. So I always looked

449
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:21.480
see if there's a big footprint, and there was a one,

450
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.079
and then I started walking back and all of a sudden,

451
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.760
I seen this one. That picture I sent of one

452
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.280
that's a big big toes, four little toes, and the

453
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:38.480
big toe was the size of my fist and it

454
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.239
was I wear a size nine and a half and

455
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:48.079
it was wider than my foot with all the toes.

456
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.679
So then I turned around and I figured the way

457
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:59.079
it was camered. It went to the right, so it

458
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.119
went back into to the woods. Because I felt the

459
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.719
track and it was so soft, there was a crusty

460
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.559
it was so really soft that it was on a

461
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.760
molehill that is always in them valleys, you know, where

462
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.199
the moles come up. And so that's when I turned

463
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.199
around and I took two pictures and got out of there,

464
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.280
and that was the two that were looking at me

465
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:30.800
through the timber. So and that's how I got those photos.

466
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.400
I worked at Douglas Colony and we did waterproofing and

467
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:41.599
construction of roofs, and so we were doing the Moffat tunnel,

468
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.400
and it's a dirt road all the way up to

469
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.159
where it goes through the Continental Divide, you know, the train.

470
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.599
And as I'm going up there, I always drive slow

471
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:59.760
and look into the woods, and right by the railroad

472
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.920
train where the train goes through, there's axes with the

473
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:10.920
trees all along the railroad tracks, you know. So I'm

474
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:19.239
thinking that wherever there's human activity and noise and beyond

475
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:26.599
that is just abundance of open forest, they'll put xes up,

476
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.320
other words, telling the noise that this we're here, you

477
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.639
can't come in here. This is this is where we're at.

478
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.840
And so the train runs up through there and every

479
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.920
time it crosses the road, it's got to blow the

480
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:49.840
horn right on a train. So I was thinking that

481
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.480
they're putting the axes up because of that. So the

482
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.360
theory that what I did was I was up there

483
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:02.440
in my semi and so oh I was coming down

484
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.360
and I thought, I'm gonna take my lunch, my thirty

485
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:11.480
minutes right here by the exus where the train tracks are.

486
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.800
In every five minutes, I'm gonna I'm gonna blow my

487
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.119
air horn twice, you know, and then continue eating my lunch,

488
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.880
you know, and every ten minutes, I'm going to blow

489
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.960
my air horn twice. And so right at the end

490
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.119
of the half hour blowing my air horn. And I've

491
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:41.159
got a oh uh forty foot aluminum bed on the truck.

492
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.719
So I put it in gear and I start start

493
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.920
out down the road and all of a sudden, I

494
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.000
here is bam bam, bam bam, and a rock hit

495
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:57.800
my flatbed. Came from the trees on top. So you know,

496
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.679
there was My theory is that noise makes them not

497
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.159
like it. So they put x's up.

498
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.519
And when you had that one hit your side mirror,

499
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:14.199
did did you go out to look at it see

500
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.719
if there was anything left on that mirror? And we're

501
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.760
going way back to the beginning of the interview.

502
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.320
Oh yeah, No, it didn't crack the mirror, It folded

503
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:22.639
it in.

504
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:24.880
Is there any hairy left?

505
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.239
No? I never did look. I should have. I should have.

506
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.840
You know. It was just one of those things that

507
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.119
after it hit the mirror, I couldn't see down the

508
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.960
side of my truck. So I'm thinking I'm kind of

509
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.119
leary and getting out.

510
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.280
It could be right there, you know, you know what,

511
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.519
I go around the truck and did you have a

512
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.199
camera on your truck at all? Like, no, no, okay.

513
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:54.400
No, it was before cameras, and but yeah, that was

514
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.400
pretty fascinating. It kind of looked like Grizzly Adams. Wow,

515
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.159
you know what, the big beard and hair down in

516
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:08.880
its eyes. Oh yeah, it was but big, big, big,

517
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.639
I mean the hood hit its chest off of a kinworth.

518
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.480
You're looking at it, You're looking at it face to

519
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.119
face pretty much.

520
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.880
Yeah, I mean yeah, it's when I'm sitting in the cab.

521
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.119
We were looking eyed eye as it ran by, you know.

522
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.159
And but I've I got a video of one following

523
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:43.000
me and it was, oh, I would say, fifteen feet

524
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.639
away from me, looking squatted down, looking through the trees

525
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.920
right at me. And I got a video of it.

526
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:54.320
And it's pretty obvious when you see the video. You

527
00:39:54.400 --> 00:40:01.039
see this big brown head in evergreens. And I had

528
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.880
my son's dog and he was so scared. He was

529
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:12.000
just shaking, you know, tins and kind of whimpering kind

530
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.880
of let's go. And how I knew when that start

531
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.760
filming was as we come down the hill, it's all

532
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:25.440
ponder rosa pine, big pine, and I heard a branch,

533
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.079
you know, break, and I looked behind me and this

534
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:33.119
other branch was swaying back and forth or if something

535
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.840
brushed by it real quick. So I figured, okay, it's

536
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.880
right here, and I started my video and it was

537
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.800
crouched down behind a thicket with its hands pulling the

538
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:51.079
branches down to look at. And I think the ones

539
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.000
up there where I'm at are real. They aren't it.

540
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.440
They're they're not violent, they're curious. Because a lady that

541
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.559
was knocked down, well, she said attacked by a bear,

542
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.280
but when she got to Saint Anthony, they didn't find

543
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.480
any bite marks on her, just scratches and bruises where

544
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.719
it just kind of pushed her around as she curled

545
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.760
up in a ball, and it sniffed her and pushed

546
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:26.519
her around, you know, and kind of pushed her head

547
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.119
around a little bit, and then it just went back

548
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:36.480
into the woods. So they were they were saying that

549
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.960
they thought she was making it all up, you know,

550
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.599
And but why would you make something up like that,

551
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:48.960
you know, thinking the bear was coming down at you.

552
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.480
And when him row came out or not Jim, but

553
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.679
Fred Rowe, Yeah, he called me because I called him

554
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.960
in Alaska and told him what I told you about

555
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.079
chasing him, and he started chuckling at me, saying, dude,

556
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:11.840
you either dumb or you're crazy, and I said, I

557
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.800
said to him, yeah, maybe a little both, you know.

558
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.000
And then I was listening to some of his podcasts

559
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.360
and I I agree with him. You know, if I'm

560
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:26.440
dealing with violent ones like that, yeah, yeah, that sounds

561
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:31.960
stupid and crazy. He wouldn't do that. But you know,

562
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.960
he was saying down at the lower forty eight, they're

563
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:40.360
you know, they're around people more, they see people more,

564
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:47.000
so they know how to deal with people. And I

565
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.360
got two stories. Well I want to finish with Jim

566
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:54.599
with Fred Rowe. Then he called me up and he says, hey,

567
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.079
this was in September. He called me up last year

568
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:02.079
in September. He goes, hey, I'm up here in Evergreen, Colorado.

569
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:07.360
He says we got to get together, and I said, oh, heck, yeah,

570
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:13.800
you know, get together, have a few beers and and

571
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:18.400
tell now, listen to your stories, you know. And so

572
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:23.639
we got together and he's he brought his girlfriend and

573
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:25.639
I said, hey, you want to just go up where

574
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.920
I go bigfooting and he goes, sure, yeah, let's do that.

575
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.719
So they follow me halfway up and they get out

576
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.440
of their jeet and I get my foret and we

577
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.239
all get in the fore erunner and drive the rest

578
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:42.599
of the way up there. And so we start down

579
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.760
the trail on the child's side because it's real active

580
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:52.000
in that area, and she's real real kind of in tune,

581
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.719
you know, like energy, and she just all of a sudden, oh,

582
00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:00.280
I feel energy right here, and just starts up to out,

583
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.639
and so Fred goes right behind her. So I'm right

584
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:09.519
behind him, and man, they do not stop take a break.

585
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.679
And I'm sixty seven, so I'm trying to keep up

586
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:18.159
with him, and I sweated so much. My baseball cap

587
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:23.800
was the bill was dripping with sweat trying to keep

588
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.719
up with him. Fred kept looking back at me and goes,

589
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.800
you're gonna be all right? Yeah, I just look like

590
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.440
I'm dying, but I'm not. So we get up there,

591
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.679
and I just had a rule that I go as

592
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.800
far as I think I can run back, you know,

593
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.440
to keep just to keep my wits to me. And

594
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.440
right then Fred thinks he hears a whoop, and you

595
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:58.559
could hear it, and then he's he's looking sideways up there,

596
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:03.480
and so he's below me, him and his girlfriend. So

597
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:07.480
I start walking down towards them, and right out of

598
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.559
the woods comes this rock and he hits me right

599
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.519
in the forehead, you know, right above my bill where

600
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:17.679
I can't see it coming in and the sun's in

601
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.480
my eyes, and it felt like a tree branch slapped my.

602
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.400
Head big for society, who will be right back after

603
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:25.199
these messages?

604
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:44.559
And when I looked up, there's no tree branch, so

605
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:48.880
it had to be a rock. And yeah, that was

606
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.679
the first time I had a rock thrown at me

607
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.039
up there, So.

608
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.519
That's pretty substantial getting hit with a rock like that.

609
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.840
Yeah, it was about the size of a marble. Not big,

610
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.599
but just enough to get your attention where you rub

611
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:16.719
your head and say a few cuss words, you know,

612
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.519
and oh, what was the other one? Oh? And up

613
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.920
there in Bailey, there's east of Bailey there, right in

614
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.840
the town of Bailey. When you come down crow Hill

615
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.079
and it does a right turn, there's a left turn

616
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.360
that you go back in there and that's Wellington Lake

617
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.079
And they have a dude ranch up there where people

618
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:47.320
go and oh vacation, rent a cabin and just kind

619
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:51.719
of ride horses and fish. Just a real nice place.

620
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:56.280
Well back in the fifties, they had a big foot

621
00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:00.599
up there that would come in at night and look

622
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.039
through the windows of the cabins, you know, even the

623
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:09.360
two story cabins. It could walk up and look right

624
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.719
in the window. And people were kind of getting freaked

625
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:20.280
out about something like that. But here in Colorado, there's

626
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:25.840
so many tree structures. And this other story that I

627
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.159
was talking to this one guy. Oh, there's a couple

628
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:33.320
of them in construction. First one was I was talking

629
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.400
to a crane operator and we were doing a job,

630
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.159
and he said that they were going to go up

631
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.079
to Ward, Colorado. There was some towers they wanted to

632
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.760
take down, and they were going to use the crane

633
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.519
to take them apart and ease them down and put

634
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.199
them on a flatbed and pull them out of there

635
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.559
instead of breaking them up. And so they went up

636
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:03.760
for their old what do you call orientation of this

637
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.599
is what we're going to do, and this is what

638
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.199
we're tearing down, you know, kind of get it planned

639
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:16.400
out what's going to happen. And so there towards the end,

640
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.519
the superintendent that was running the project, he said, and

641
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.679
if any of you guys have a gun, bring it

642
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:32.199
up here, he said, because they got a scalehouse up

643
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.599
there that runs twenty four to seven. And when you're

644
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:40.639
picking up oh lumber, they have what what do you

645
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:46.639
call that? Those little pelps for woodstoves, They have them

646
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.280
bagged up there. They got a plant that makes them

647
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:53.800
up there, and you run across that and scale out

648
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.079
and sign your scale ticket so you can see what

649
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:02.119
you're at to be legal to you know, head back

650
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:06.559
to your destination. Well, he said that right at four

651
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:11.199
o'clock in the morning, the lights when anything hits that scale,

652
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:17.320
the lights come on and a camera records, and he said,

653
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:22.639
right at four o'clock, the lights came on and these

654
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:30.199
two bipedal walking things walked up on the scale across

655
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.599
it and it scaled out at well. He said, they

656
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:39.480
must have been about six hundred pounds apiece really walking

657
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.360
across the scale. And he said they were all covered

658
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.920
in air, and so the guy was freaked out, and

659
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.719
he said, you know, he wants everybody to be carrying

660
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.760
because something that big. He don't know what they're capable

661
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.679
of doing. But Ward is on the back side of steamboat,

662
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:06.559
and so there's quite a bit of activity, you know,

663
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:12.840
even in steamboat. Oh north of there towards Wyoming, that

664
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:17.079
there's a group of them living up there, that some

665
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:22.119
of the Bigfoot people here in Colorado go up there

666
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:26.639
and come into a lot of contact with them. They're

667
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:31.280
reaching underneath the tent to grab food. They'll leave food

668
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.760
out there for them, and peanut butter with the lid

669
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.400
on it, and they'll unscrew the lid, then eat the

670
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:45.039
peanut butter, and then put the lid back on. You know,

671
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:46.480
weird things like that.

672
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:53.800
You've mentioned a few times having different videos Excuse me,

673
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.880
are those available to see on the internet at all?

674
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.559
Or those you have them on like old you know,

675
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:02.639
vh SC or whatever.

676
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:04.679
No, No, I've got them on. I got them on

677
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.880
my phone. Okay, I just don't know how to you

678
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:12.360
know what, if I send them sometimes I'll say videos

679
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:17.119
too long, you'll have to cut it down. And and

680
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:23.199
how do you put a red circle around the video

681
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.159
part so you can concentrate on that area and see it.

682
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.119
Yeah, that's that's kind of tricky. I always try to

683
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.400
look at those without the red circles, just to you know,

684
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.639
make sure see if I see anything right off the bat.

685
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:41.199
But I mean you probably could do it in certain

686
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.039
programs like I. I mean there's like maybe you could

687
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.920
do it in Canva. You could do it and iMovie

688
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.639
if you have a Mac or you know, equivalent. But yeah, okay,

689
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.039
so that's cool. So you have them on your phone,

690
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:56.079
but they're just too big to get off.

691
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:01.159
Yeah, yeah, it's long videos. And I mean it got

692
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.119
so crazy up there when I was feeding them that

693
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.559
I wouldn't even I stopped taking pictures of them because

694
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.480
it got to a point where, you know, I'd walk

695
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:15.920
down the trail and I just yell out, I see

696
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:22.559
you right, yeah, the peeking around a tree at me, Yeah,

697
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.159
there you are, you know. And their color is red

698
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:35.599
like like orangutan. When I first when it first come

699
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:41.159
to me that they're here, and it's almost like you

700
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.239
want to tell the world, you know, of what you've seen,

701
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:49.480
like it's it's just amazing. So then again it hits

702
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:54.719
you that you don't really want to tell a lot

703
00:52:54.719 --> 00:53:00.480
of people because then they're want to shoot them because

704
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.199
what we don't understand. We got to go kill it

705
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:09.280
and drag it home, you know. And then it almost feels, oh,

706
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.960
they have a family up there, and there's one particular

707
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:19.880
color they love, and that's bright pink really and yeah,

708
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:23.440
and that's you almost think that's a female color.

709
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.440
You know, I've never heard that. That's very interesting.

710
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:31.599
Oh yeah, they love their apples and bright pink and

711
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:38.280
and ruha is definitely get some going. I don't know

712
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:39.159
what that means.

713
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.679
I mean, that's the thing about not knowing the language

714
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:47.280
is you could be doing the equivalent of anything. Get

715
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.000
pretty scary if you think about it. You gotta be

716
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:51.840
careful what you're doing out there.

717
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:57.679
Yeah, And like I said, that Golden Gate has RV

718
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.000
part there that there's full hook. You can bring your

719
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:05.639
fifth wheel up in there. They have tent camping. The

720
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:10.800
Boy Scouts go camping up there. I've gone up camping

721
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.840
up there with the Boy Scouts backpacking in areas and

722
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:21.840
I've never seen this before, but on this particular mountain

723
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:29.000
in the valleys where that stream is because they need water, man,

724
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:34.079
it's like it's like almost woodstock. You go up there,

725
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:39.079
you see trees broken down, and you know, elk carcasses

726
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.559
leached in the back in the woods, and there's a

727
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:48.320
herd of elk that live up there. But then I've

728
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:53.480
even seen trees that were woven in between other trees,

729
00:54:54.199 --> 00:55:00.760
like a stockade fence where it's almost a kill zone

730
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.400
where they would run them in that area.

731
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.760
Okay, that's very interesting. Oh man, if you ever can,

732
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.360
I don't know, figure out a way to get the

733
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:17.440
videos off your phone, maybe email them if possible. I mean,

734
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:21.079
I would love to see what you have. I understand

735
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.360
can get pretty tough to get stuff off of devices

736
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.119
like that, but I mean to you.

737
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:31.239
Yeah, okay, yeah, I can send you a part of

738
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:36.960
the video that I froze and I've photographed and it's

739
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.960
actually looking I mean you can see the orph the

740
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:47.920
pupil in its eye, but there's branches, but this is

741
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:52.519
absolutely round and you can see the eye as it's

742
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:57.840
looking right at you. Oh wow. And I've done a

743
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:01.280
lot of sketches of them that I figured. God, let

744
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:06.679
me know that they're here and what pictures I did get,

745
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:11.719
I can sketch them or add to them of you know,

746
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.159
get half the head and then just figure that half

747
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:19.199
is like the other half. Put them together and you

748
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.239
you'll have what one of them looks like.

749
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.239
Is there a way to see your sketches anywhere?

750
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:27.639
Uh? Yeah, I can send them to you.

751
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.079
Oh okay, that cool on your phone? Yeah, that'd be

752
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.519
That would be awesome. I mean, just to see what

753
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.840
your interpretation is, that would be really cool. That's it's

754
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:41.079
been a real fun time talking to you, Fred. I mean,

755
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.719
you're really you're really into it out there, and you're

756
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.320
you're getting involved with some really intense stuff. I'd say,

757
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:50.800
you know, we should we should definitely keep in touch.

758
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.880
I'm sure you're going to be doing more stuff in

759
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:55.480
the future.

760
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:59.920
And oh yeah, I I whenever we go to the woods,

761
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.519
that's the first thing I look for, and oh, there's

762
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.760
a golden gate. They got a dude fishing hole. And

763
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:13.519
before I, even before I even had a concept of Bigfoot,

764
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.320
I'd go down there fishing and you'd always get the

765
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:24.480
creetness somebody's watching, you know. And so you go to

766
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:28.079
the other side of the lake where the woods aren't

767
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:31.639
in your back, you know, on your back mostly a

768
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:36.840
cliff is and as you're fishing, you keep feeling that

769
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:44.800
leave go, you know, don't stay here, you know, and

770
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:50.400
you're you're looking around, like, am I being just you know,

771
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:57.519
crazy er? But you you get this gut feeling that

772
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:59.960
that something bad's going to happen if you stay here,

773
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.320
and and they have a tent camping area down there,

774
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.639
and there's no way I would camp down there.

775
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.960
I mean, what's what's the name of that crown again.

776
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:13.960
It's called dude Fishing Hole.

777
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:16.559
Dude fishing Hole. Okay, interesting, Okay.

778
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:20.599
Yeah. As you walk down there, there are tree brakes

779
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:26.400
left and right of you, and then there's willows that

780
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:31.000
follow the the little creek down through there, and the

781
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:37.360
willows are all raided together. What does that? Yeah? Right,

782
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.639
I mean yeah, but but it's invigorating, especially when you

783
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:45.079
hear them.

784
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:48.199
It really gets you. I've had it happen once out

785
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:52.079
in Well, Oregon in Iowa, and both times it man,

786
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:54.559
it's wild.

787
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:59.119
Yeah, you have that that how or is it the

788
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.039
I is at the Ohio?

789
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:06.440
It's Ohio. I've heard given type whoops out out where

790
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.760
I go in Iowa, but I mean out in Oregon.

791
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.480
We heard the roars and screams and dude, it was

792
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.400
it was crazy. You did not mess around.

793
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.000
Yeah. This other guy that he's up there in Ess

794
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:25.639
Park and there's some sad stories about a little boy

795
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:33.119
that was taken and he's twenty something years ago and

796
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:38.119
they found his pants and his shoes and his shirt

797
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:43.920
they were laying on a boulder field and his shirt

798
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:51.119
and pants and shoes were not even ripped, you know, weathered.

799
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:56.639
The shoes looked new, but they were the clothes that

800
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:58.199
that little boy wore.

801
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:01.519
Fold it up as well.

802
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:06.360
Yeah they said it was just yeah, folded up and

803
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.199
the pants were inside out.

804
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.760
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

805
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:30.880
So you know about that story.

806
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.159
I mean I've heard I've heard different variants of it.

807
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:36.719
I know a little bit about missing four on one stuff,

808
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.840
and that seems to be a current, kind of a

809
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:43.000
current that runs through You'll find folded clothes and it's

810
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.079
just very strange.

811
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:51.599
Oh yeah, it's well. And that's why I if anything

812
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:56.440
anybody gets out of listening to you know, these shows,

813
01:00:56.519 --> 01:01:00.800
and that is watch your kids. You know, I'm close

814
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.719
to you because I can't replace them.

815
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.639
That that's probably the most important thing said. I mean,

816
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.679
you can't replace your kids. Watch your kids. Fred. It's

817
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:17.320
that's yeah, that's important for people to to hear. I think, man,

818
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.840
it has been such a such a conversation. I feel

819
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.599
like we could we could have more, and I think,

820
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.159
you know, we'll we'll definitely keep in touch, Fred. But

821
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:28.800
is there a way people can reach out to you

822
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.039
at all if they have, you know, if you said

823
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:34.360
something they're like, oh man, I it's that's crazy because

824
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.480
it or do you kind of just stay in the

825
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.920
shadows Fred in the shadows, which is okay too.

826
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:47.000
Well, Oh, I wouldn't mind that they could and I

827
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:51.519
never thought of that. Yep. I'm kind of relent and

828
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:56.280
giving my phone number out because I don't want you know,

829
01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:58.800
maybe text messages.

830
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.320
Yeah, I probably don't want that. I wouldn't recommend it.

831
01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:05.159
Yeah, but I know what you're talking about.

832
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.719
Well, you can think about it and if you if

833
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.880
you do, you know, think it through and you're like,

834
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:11.880
oh yeah, they could get a hold of me this way,

835
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:14.199
just let me know and we'll throw it in. So

836
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.559
if not, hey, don't worry about.

837
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.880
It all right. Yeah, if somebody calls you and they

838
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:25.880
got want any more information, I know you're busy, but

839
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:27.559
you know you do that.

840
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:34.559
Yeah, that has that has bit me before in the past.

841
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.400
But we'll see what we figure out. So but I've

842
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.880
red it has been a fun time chatting with him

843
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:42.639
in and just thank you for thank you for Green

844
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:44.760
to come on the show and talking about Colorado. We

845
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:47.599
don't get a lot of Colorado calls. So appreciate you

846
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:52.440
coming on, man, really, yeah, really, there's so much much

847
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:53.280
in Colorado.

848
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:57.960
You heard of Veil, Colorado, right sure, Yeah, Okay, Well

849
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:04.559
they found nesting where they built ness on walk just

850
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:09.960
above walking paths up in Veil. Even on the ski runs,

851
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:12.519
they're in the trees watching the people.

852
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:14.239
Macre.

853
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:18.840
I went to Blackhawk and that photo I took of

854
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.039
one looking through the woods. There was a bartender there

855
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:26.119
and they've got us a full size a sasquatch, you know,

856
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:32.559
in the casino. And I showed him my picture and

857
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.239
he looked at it and looked at the sasquatch that

858
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.239
was on the floor, and he just he just couldn't

859
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.519
believe it. He said, that looks just like the one

860
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.559
that's on the floor. Wow. And this one's got woods

861
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:48.039
around it. And I said, yeah, that one's up there,

862
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:49.400
you know.

863
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.360
It's up there. Yeah. Well, man, we will, we'll keep

864
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.079
in touch. Fred. I hate to have to jet, but

865
01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.280
I do have to jet. But man, it has been

866
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:01.119
it's been a fun one, sir.

867
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.960
Right on. Yeah, I've got some more stories of what

868
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:11.400
I've heard that some big foots were shot here in Colorado,

869
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.599
and and the army took them away.

870
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:18.599
But yeah, yeah, well well we'll set that up. That's

871
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.920
that's a teaser. My goodness. So Fred, we'll be in

872
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:26.480
touch there. Fred from Colorado, Thank you sir. Okay, thank you,

873
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:29.159
have a good one YouTube.

874
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:29.519
Bye.

875
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.239
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876
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.920
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885
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Here's a list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow Oregon,

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McKinsey Bridge area, sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

889
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890
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.800
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