Dec. 30, 2024

Sasquatch Saved Me From the Grizzly! (A Collection of Interviews) | Alberta, Canada

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Season 1

This episode is a collection of impromptu interviews that occurred on the Bigfoot Society TikTok channel Live - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.society (FOLLOW US THERE AS WELL!)

Join Jeremiah from Bigfoot Society as he chats with Bill Brock, a veteran Bigfoot researcher. Bill shares his thrilling first-hand experiences such as filming a seven-foot-tall creature on thermal in Myakka, Florida, and witnessing unexplained footprints in Durham, Maine. Adding to the mystery, a Vancouver Island resident recounts terrifying sasquatch sightings at places like Gold River and Cape Scott. Then Michael takes us further into the unknown with riveting stories from Jasper Park, Alberta, where a sasquatch seemingly saved his life, and breathtaking encounters in Salt Fork State Park, Ohio, and the Chattahoochee River in Georgia.

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Resources:Bill Brock's Youtube channel - https://youtube.com/@conjuringhouse

Stan Gordon's channel - https://www.stangordon.info/wp/

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slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show. The following episode is a collection of

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impromptu interviews from a recent TikTok Live. My name is

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Jeremia from Bigfoot Society. I just had a crazy interview

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today with a gentleman down in Webster County, Kentucky. This

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guy was sharing some wild wild stuff in an area.

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Oh okay, we got we got an individual that wants

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to come on up. Let's see what's up hill. How's

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it going.

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Nice to meet you, dude. Ah, yeah, it's good to

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meet you. My name is Bill Brock. I've been in

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the whole Bigfoot world pretty much since the media aspect

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of Bigfoot was a thing. I've been around for a

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little while, I guess, okay, and so I've been watching

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your podcast or whatever you want to call it here

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on TikTok, and I really I like what you're doing,

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And yeah, i'd like to know if you see any

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patterns or anything and what you're doing that might help

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us figure out what bigfoot is or if it migrates,

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or you know, just some of your thoughts that you've

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kind of like found doing this.

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Yeah, definitely. So I've been doing this for a few years,

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but I would say focused on Bigfoot just for like

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the maybe two maximum. So something I've been trying to

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figure out lately actually is if the encounters, if people

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are starting to share more as we go along, or

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if it's just because I'm getting to be a bigger platform.

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And I'm not sure what the answer to that is,

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because I mean, as of right now, I'm getting people

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reaching out all over the place every single day. I

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would like to think that maybe it's people are starting

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to realize, hey, if UFO stuff is getting out there,

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my bigfoot stuff can get out there and I'm not

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going to be made fun of. So that's something I've

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noticed both.

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Things that you talked about, because what I found is

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a lot of people just want to tell their story.

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They just want somebody to hear what happened to them

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and then hopefully have somebody that can relate to what

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they experienced and then kind of like find this commonality

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in community within that. And that's something that has happened,

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you know, in big footing for years. And I think that, yes,

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you do have a larger platform, and you know, like

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I said, there's a lot of people that really want

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to share their story.

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Yeah, absolutely, And that's a good point. Another thing I

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try to do, that Sonya point in the comments is

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that I try to make a space where people can

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share just what happened. I don't have to worry about

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being made fun of or like judging or anything like that.

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I try to just let them be able to share,

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and then I ask some follow up questions too, But

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for the most part, I try to let them just talk,

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you know, And I think that's been that's been very effective.

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But so you mentioned you've been in in bigfoot for

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quite a long time, Like how long are we talking

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about Bill?

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At least gosh, probably two thy twelve. I dove into

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it really hard online. It might have been closer to

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two thousand and eight. So I started off with a

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good friend of mine, Sean Evidence and Bigfoot Evidence, and

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there was a bunch of guys that were part of that,

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man Rose Sahibe, I don't know, there was a bunch

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of us, Michael Merchant, all of us. And so I

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started rolling with those guys. And I don't know if

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you remember back when what's his face? There was said

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he shot the big Foot up this year as can't

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think his name, yes, Justin So I was definitely deep

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within that as well. And yeah, all those people are

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good friends of mine, and that's the crew I came

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into bigfooting with.

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You know, I've been doing this for a long time.

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I ended up having my own show on Discovery where

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we chased you know, bigfoot aliens and that sort of thing,

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and that turned into the whole paranormal slash UFO stuff

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I've been doing. I have a couple films out there

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in the world. I think there's one on Netflix I

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recently did called Marfa Lights. And we went to Marfa,

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Texas and investigated some lights down there that people feel

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are UFOs. I also have done quite a few films

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with a guy named Stacy Brown. Stacy Brown's a really

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pretty well known bigfooter, and Stacey and I've worked on

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multiple projects together over the years. And yeah, long story short, man,

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I've been doing this for a long time. I've been

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making films and yeah, just listening to people's stories for

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a lot of years.

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It sounds like you do know some stuff about bigfoot.

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Have you had any interesting stuff out to happen out there?

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Have you gone out looking and had interactions or anything.

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Yes, specifically one that I can't explain that a bunch

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of us were part of. I went down to Miaca,

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Florida a few years ago, maybe six seven years ago now,

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and there had been a sighting where this guy filmed

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what he thought was a bigfoot running through a field

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out in Mayaca, Florida. So we went down there and myself,

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Stacy Brown, and a few other people investigated this thing

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and we ended up getting on thermal what seemed to

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be somewhat about seven foot tall running naked through the forest.

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back the next day and found Prince to confirm what

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we had seen. To this day, I still don't know

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what that was. If you go onto my YouTube channel

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and you go back way a long time ago, it's gosh,

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I wouldn't even know what this is, what it's called,

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but it probably has something to do with Mayaca, I

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would say. And there's a couple of videos in there,

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and the first videos solid it was us meeting the

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guy who filmed the Bigfoot and we went out and

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talked to him and he had a picture of a

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that he claimed that a bigfoot had urinated on and

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he tried to get DNA.

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Off of that. Yeah, it was.

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It was wild man. We definitely had something run right

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by us. And when I say there was multiple people there,

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we were basically in a line. There were two people

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together about every thirty feet and we had the total

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of six people, no, seven, seven people. This thing ran

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by me, ran right by the next group. We're all

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seeing this thing on thermal and it runs right at

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Stacy Brown. It just about random over and it just

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stopped in his tracks, turned hard left and just went

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and just it was gone. And man, we had all

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that on thermal. So yeah, I've definitely had encounters, but

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you know, I still don't know what it was. Man.

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You know, we definitely saw something, but I don't know.

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I've had some stuff. If you look up like the

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I don't know, I guess like the Durham gorilla, or

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like if you just looked up my name and bigfoot,

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you would come along. This this video that is a

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something out in the woods that a kid videoed with

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his cell phone.

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And I remember that one.

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Yeah, you know, I'm being really honest with you, man,

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I really did my due diligence to debunk that thing,

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because that's that's what I really like doing. I really

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like going out and debunking these these situations and finding

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out what really happened. So anyway, I went and investigated

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this thing, and I couldn't debunk it. There was a

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definite trackway and I'm not talking one or two prints.

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I'm telling you like quarter mile of prints. They were

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broken trees within that path. There were so many signs

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to point to this thing being a real bigfoot that

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you know it Really that's one that I really look

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back on and I wish I would have just got

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my camping gear and spent a few days in the

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woods because when I got there it was fresh. It

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just happened, and so I should have, looking back at it,

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just spind a couple of nights in the woods, because

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I think that is probably the closest I will ever

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get to solving this mystery, because I believe that was

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a real sighting.

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Yeah, I'm looking at right now. It's very interesting. How

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so you saw the tracks yourself? I mean, how far

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apart were those?

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What was the gate that you were looking at?

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You know, I don't want to I don't want to

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say without being sure, right, you know, I don't like speculations.

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So I did have a friend of mine, his name's

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A j He's about five foot eight, five foot nine.

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He tried stepping in the prints and duplicating what we

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you know, what he saw and he had to really

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stretch to step in those prints. So I would say,

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you know, whatever it was from our calculations was around

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seven foot tall. We did do proper calculations because the

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prints were still there. Man. So like what we did

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is we took the original video, shot it on the

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original phone, took an overlaid the original video, and I

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overlaid my buddy walking on top of the other one,

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and the measurements came out to whatever it was was

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like seven foot.

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So I know it wasn't a kid.

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I know that kid wasn't the person or the bigfoot

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or whatever it was in the video. And yeah, I

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don't have any explanation for it, but I'm willing to

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say that that's probably one of the best videos I've

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ever seen. If you look really close at his feet

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as he takes a step forward, you can actually see

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the mid tarsar break flex backwards, so it doesn't just

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flas forward. The mid tartal break actually flecks inward, you know,

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and so it almost looks like he has a flipper on,

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like you.

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Know what I mean, like it I see it. Yeah,

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it's so weird, man, Like, yeah, I've never seen anything

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like it. To be honest, I've actually never seen this one.

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Now that I think about it, this is weird.

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It is pretty weird, and I honestly, really, I honestly

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tried to go there and debunk it. I pressured his

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father to pressure him to find out if you're lying,

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you know, and his father swop her down that his

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son wasn't lying and I did everything I could, and

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I still say that that's probably the closest I'll ever

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be to actually solving this, you know, dude.

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That's why if people want to see what we're talking about,

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go to YouTube. Go to the Bill Brock YouTube channel.

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It's the video I believe we're talking about. Main Bigfoot

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Footage Enhanced is the one that's that's a really good

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view of it. But yeah, guys, check it out. This

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is really it's good stuff. It's about nine years old,

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so that's probably why, you know, just it's just old enough,

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like the Justin Smaha story that people don't remember it.

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It's just old enough, you know.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been doing this stuff forever. Man.

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I've literally researched all over the planet for this thing,

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and there's only two places I have ever been where

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I really think besides you know here Main in that

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footage that I think that there is a lot of activity.

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There is a two guys that used to be really popular,

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Bigfooters of Dallas and Wayne Dallas and Wayne had a

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big Foot movie and it was called My Bigfoot Movie,

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I'm pretty sure, and it.

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Was absolutely amazing movie.

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It was really about the friendship between those two, but

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they went out big footing and stuff, and I became

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intrigued with these guys after watching that film, and so

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I ended up hooking up with him and going out

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big footing with him a few times and made some

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videos and stuff and amazing guys. They have a place

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in the Wayne National Forest in southern Ohio. So I

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went out footing with those guys, man, and they took

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me to this spot where farmers dumped their dead animals

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when they just die for random reasons. Dude, it was

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wild man. Michael Merchant and I were out there and

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we were literally having like rocks and stuff thrown at

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us from the woods. And in Michael merchants, I really

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don't talk to him much anymore, but he is an

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amazing outdoorsman. He's a biologist. He's he's everything that you

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would have what bigfoot to be because he is science based.

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And so we were out there and man, we were

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like having things thrown at us, and we tried to

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flank it. We tried to do everything we could in

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order to get eyes on it, and we we never could.

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But yeah, that that place was definitely active Wayne National Forest.

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Wayne National I need to double check that is in Ohio.

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Yes, they're southern Ohio, close to like, okay, cool Portsmouth.

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I would say, all right, it's in that southeast corner

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for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, north of Point Pleasant though, definitely.

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Yeah, that's really interesting.

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Yeah.

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Oh man, Bill, I love I love talking to you.

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You've got a lot of good info. You're you're You're

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a good dude, I can tell. But man, we'll need

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to keep in touch for sure. We brought a good

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chats down the road big for society. Who will be

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right back after these messages.

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Thanks for letting me jump on and kind of chat

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for a minute, and yeah, I'll stick around again. I

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see how things are going.

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Absolutely thanks for chatting Bill.

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Yeah, thank you everybody.

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But all right, good stuff. That was fun meeting Bill.

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He seems like a solid dude. Let's get caught up

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with the comments here and guys, if you're new to this,

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we're talking about Bigfoot. A few things to point out

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real quick, Phil, Thank you to everyone that has been

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that sent some some incredible gifts. Every gift goes towards

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future travel. I appreciate that there's a lot of people

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that won't talk over the phone. They only talk face

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to face, so I appreciate everyone does that. We've got

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a question here, has anyone had counters with Bigfoot? With

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UFOs and Poulter get okay, So that's interesting questions. So

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a lot of people, like let's say southwest Southwest Pennsylvania

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and Chestnut Ridge people, there's a lot of sightings where

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it's a UFO siding then Bigfoot the next day, or

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UFOs and Bigfoot together. Something about that area. You can

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look up Stan Gordon books and yeah, you can get

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more info on that. Hold on, now, polter guys, sometimes

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people will We'll say, is still have an interaction with Bigfoot?

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And then they'll come back home and something will follow

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them home and they'll start to have weird things happening

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around their house, shato people, stuff being moved, poltergeist type activities.

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So I have talked to people that have experienced that.

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All on.

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If that's what your question is, s asks anything in

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Kansas or Nebraska. Two things that come to let's see,

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actually Kansas not at the top of my head, but

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if we're talking about just over the line into Missouri,

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there's an area called Monkey Mountain just north of Kansas City.

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You might want to check it out. Nebraska, there's an

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area a county south of Omaha called Odo County. It's wild.

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My buddy Steve Berg is investigating it. There's some wild

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wild stuff going on over there, so look into that

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as well. About Montana, Yeah, Montana's got some wild stuff

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going on. One of the things I talked to a

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gentleman named Ken Metzker a few years ago. He's a

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researcher up in Manyana, and him and other people who

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potentially could be listening wink wink, have let me know that, Yes,

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there are definitely grizzly bears that are getting their next

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snapped in the in the Montana area, and most people

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think that they're from bigfoot sot. Yeah, many sightings in

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Montana going on the last few years, Kenneth, I would

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really like to see sasquatch from the safe distance with

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a good vehicle. Yeah, no, I get it. I'll share

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something I learned out in Oregon. This is they took

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me thirty miles out in the woods in the Lamit

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National Forest to an area that's super squatchy, lots of activity,

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and I learned something experience very important out there is

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if you pull into an area where there's a lot

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of big food activity. It is best to make sure

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that your vehicle is turned around so that you don't

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have to do a turn really quick if something's chasing,

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you do that ahead of time. These guys have been

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chased so much that they immediately when they get out,

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before they park, they are turned around so they can

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jet out of there quick. It's a whole different story

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out there. Esther, did you see one? That's a great question.

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So let I share this usually a few times. So

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let me go over what interactions I've had so far

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over the last three years. So starting three years ago,

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my friend Tate Horoonymous is your researcher out of Florida,

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but he has an area in Iowa, my home seat.

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He finally got me to go out with him. We

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had some stuff happened. First time out. We had a

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tree get pushed over. We had wood knocks around our campsite.

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The next year, I heard woops from my tent. This

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last year I also heard whoops from my tent again.

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Another tree get pushed over. What knocks all over the place.

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No visuals also went to Oregon this last July. Roar

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De screamed at No Visuals missed being led by about

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five hours. So I'm going up back to Oregon again.

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Going back to Oregon again next year. Hopefully if I

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keep going out there, I'll have something happen. I'm also

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into Oklahoma, south East Oklahoma next October. Allison, thanks for

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coming up.

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Hey, how's it going?

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Hey? Good?

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Cool?

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So up there in you said, Vancouver Island, Yeah, awesome.

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So what's going on up there?

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Oh?

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A lot of a lot of squatchy stuff. So well,

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we'll date back to like one of the earlier stories,

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probably the first first one. So Vancouver Island, like it's

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you know, people think it's small, it's actually quite massive.

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So my boyfriend's his grandfather was like a police chief

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out in. It's called Tasse. It's a real small town.

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And this would have been probably around nineteen probably probably

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around the eighties. So anyways, real small town and they

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would go around with like a police boat. And anyway,

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so his grandpa he found basically this hermit. So they

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meet this guy and they're like, and this guy's lived

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out on his own for like twenty plus years, and

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so they developed like a relationship and he's like, hey, like,

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how about I bring you some supplies. Every you know,

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X amount of months, so you know, every few months

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or so, he would the guy would be waiting on

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the beach for him. He'd come up with the police

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boat and had a miss supplies and then off they'd go.

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They really didn't talk much, Like I said, this guy's a.

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Pretty big hermit.

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So then anyways, one day he gets up and to

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the beach and the guy's like nowhere to be found,

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like no place at all. So then he starts looking

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for him.

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He's never been inside his house or anything.

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They find his trail and they find his like a

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frame cabin, right, and so Ken's.

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Like banging on the door. He's like, hey, man, like

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are you in there? Like what's going on? Anyways, the

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guy is like he looks through the.

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Window and he sees that he's like huddled in the

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corner just like looks like he like, I don't know,

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saw like a like a horrific car crash or something,

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just starstruck.

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So anyways, he kicks down the door and he's like, hey, man,

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like are you okay? Like what's going on?

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The guy can make out any words, so he can

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cans him his police like notepad and and the guy's

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shaking and he draws he draws a sasquatch basically in

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the doorway. And that guy left with him them on

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the boat that day and never went back, and he

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lived there for twenty years.

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I have a ton of stories. Actually, let me know

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how many would like me to tell?

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What year is that again?

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Oh so I'm gonna say it's around because ken Off

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he's he's around, and he's in his eighties, so I

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would say yeah, I would probably say like around nineteen

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eighty ish. All in that air like Vancouver Isle, people'll

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call like Vancouver Island, like Ape Island.

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I've actually talked to a gentleman from Gold River, which

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looks like is up in that area.

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No, it's actually on the way.

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You have to go to Gold River to get to

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tast this.

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Actually another one.

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This is around Pearl Lake. This is my boyfriend's dad.

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These are all it's kind of crazy. I feel like

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sasquatch kind of they kind of like pick and choose people.

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I think that they want to make themselves known to you. Right,

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So anyways, Pat him and his friends like they there's

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there's this like cabin type thing that you can get

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to and you have to like bushwack and then it

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takes less time. Like there's like a tinny that's like

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stashed in the bush. So if you take the tinny

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to this cabin, you uh, it would only take like

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twenty minutes to get across the lake versus like walking

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for like.

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Two hours around.

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So anyways, they've they hiked up there and done all

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of that quite a few times. And so one of

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Pat's friends, I want to say, it's Burt. He he's

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a carpenter. He's like always got his carpenter Bell Danham.

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He's got dogs.

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They're like, you know, like like I think, like coon dogs,

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Like they're they're hunting dogs, right, So these dogs are

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you know, they're not scared of anything.

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They're you know, they're meant to hunt. They're meant to

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hunt cougars and bears and deer, you know what I mean.

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Like they're they're not afraid of anything.

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So AnyWho, they're walking and they hear noises and they

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hear a like it's so loud that they can feel

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like the vibration in their chest and they're like they're

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freaking out, and they're like all right, they what they

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ended up being able to cross the lake in like

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ten minutes, like they're hauling, right. So they get up

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to the cabin. They get in there and Bert uh

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nailed because he had his his his carpet belt right like,

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he nailed the door shut. And then for hours they

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had rocks like being thrown down the bluff at them,

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you know.

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And in the.

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Morning, these dogs didn't leave the porch to take a piss.

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They pissed on the porch Like that's got to be something,

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you know.

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Oh wow, So.

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Yeah, you know, it's uh, it's pretty crazy. I'll tell

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you another story. So this one is pretty recent. So

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my also my boyfriend's uncle, like he's he's a pretty

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like well known guy around here. He's got like a

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lot of friends, a lot of guys like in the

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like the chartering business, like that kind of thing.

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Right, So his friend tells them the story about uh.

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So he flies like a helicopter and anyway, so there's

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like a government like geologist he's coming to somewhere, was

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somewhere around like the tip of the island to study

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like this like.

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Thousand year old bear trail, you know.

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AnyWho, so you know, they'd set up like a thing

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for him, like that he knew he was going to

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be out here for like a month, like obviously he's

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not unfamiliar with like being in the woods, like what's

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in the woods, Like he knew that he was there

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to like take samples, study this bear trail, et cetera.

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Right, AnyWho, so he gets dropped off.

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And mind you, this guy has like thousands of dollars

460
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.799
worth of like equipment with him, like he's prepared to

461
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.480
be out there for a while. So I guess this

462
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.559
guy is, uh, he's taking samples out of the water,

463
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.079
and all of a sudden he has got uh like

464
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.960
boulders being thrown at him, like full on, like not rocks, boulders.

465
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:42.640
So then he like and then he you know, he

466
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:46.400
sees sasquatch, right, and he runs to his cabin.

467
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:47.359
He's freaking out.

468
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:51.839
I guess these things screamed at him for like eight hours.

469
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.000
And any who, he calls.

470
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.200
You know, the the helicopter guy, and he's like, you

471
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:58.240
need to pick me up.

472
00:26:58.119 --> 00:26:58.720
Like right now.

473
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:01.000
And the guy's like came out like it's I can't

474
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.160
like it's it's dark, like it's whatever time it was, right,

475
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.039
He's like, Okay, I'll come like first thing in the morning,

476
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.680
and even like the helicopter pilot he's like all right,

477
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:11.079
like he.

478
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.279
Didn't get any sleep that night, YadA, YadA, YadA.

479
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:17.440
So anyways, he flies over to him and you know,

480
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.039
I don't know, lands the helicopter and gets out and

481
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:21.799
turns around.

482
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.680
He's like looking for the guy.

483
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.160
The guy's already booking it into the helicopter and he's

484
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.359
like okay, and he's like, hey, like what about all

485
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:28.720
your stuff.

486
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:30.119
He's like, let's just get me out of here.

487
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:30.640
Right.

488
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.880
So anyways, you know, the helicopter pilot like he has

489
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:35.839
a pretty good idea of like what's going on, so

490
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.920
he uh, you know, the guy just like looks like

491
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.680
he's you know, like seeing something horrific. So he kind

492
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:46.599
of turns them and so a little squatchy out here, eh,

493
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.960
And I guess the guy turned at him like why

494
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:49.920
the id's like what.

495
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.359
Do you know?

496
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:51.240
You know?

497
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.279
So he told him what he knew from like the

498
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.960
local like indigenous people and just being in that area, right,

499
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.000
and so that's why he told him the story that

500
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.720
I just told you. And yeah, so like thousands like

501
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.359
he was just like, you know, he like somebody who's

502
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.119
out there. You know, they know what they're you probably

503
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:10.000
just wouldn't account for seeing something like that.

504
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.200
But anyways, Yeah, that's just a few of the stories.

505
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.680
Did that happen in Duncan then, or was that a

506
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:17.119
different time?

507
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.480
I know that I think would be like I want

508
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.400
to say, like they said, like around the tip of

509
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:22.799
the island, so I'm going to say, like around like

510
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:28.240
Cape Scott area. But you know, it seems like actually

511
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:33.240
just in the summertime, my boyfriend's parents went out camping.

512
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.359
I think it was around Catherine Lake, and I want

513
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:39.559
to say that's near like Port McNeil, just any anywhere

514
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:44.880
out that way, right. They they also had like another

515
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.119
like kind of sasquatch experience.

516
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.720
I didn't really hear the story.

517
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:54.680
I just know like they Yeah, anyways, I didn't hear

518
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.079
the full story, but I know that they recently had

519
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.000
one as well. And honestly, like you know, these stories

520
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.519
have been passed to me, and like I'm probably not

521
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.440
doing them as much justice as you know, as them

522
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.480
telling them, but super interesting, Like I never really put

523
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.000
a whole lot of thought into sasquatch before. But you know,

524
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.720
I'm not somebody who needs to see them. I'm like

525
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.039
they're for sure real like that, I'm good.

526
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.319
Oh yeah, I mean that whole island is I've heard

527
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.599
stuff from all over Vancouver Island, like Nanaimo, the other

528
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.039
I just Gold River, all that stuff. But thank you

529
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.960
for coming up and for sharing. It gives definitely some

530
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.200
new areas to look into, and I appreciate you sharing.

531
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:33.480
Yeah, no problem.

532
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.559
I hear a ton of stories, like I feel like

533
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.039
I go looking for them too. Like I'm a hairdress dresser,

534
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:40.920
so any of my clients that come from like the

535
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.920
more rural areas, I always ask them if they have

536
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.640
any stories. So it's it's pretty neat. But yeah, thanks

537
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:47.400
for having me on here.

538
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.119
Yeah, my emails up there. If you ever want to

539
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.200
pass it on to anyone, feel free to do so.

540
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:54.799
But yeah, thank you for chatting.

541
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.079
Okay, okay, see thanks encounter.

542
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:03.079
You hear me.

543
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.000
Hey, Michael, thanks for coming up. So what happened up

544
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.119
there in Canada? Man?

545
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.400
Well, I was up there on a trip with my

546
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:18.880
grandparents in nineteen sixty seven. We went to the Calgary

547
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:24.400
Stampede was where we first started, and we stayed in

548
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:30.119
a teepee with a tribe of Indians for four days

549
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.039
at the Calgary Stampede.

550
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.559
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

551
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:58.480
After we left there, we went to My great uncle

552
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:05.759
lived in hillcrewt Canada, and he was the superintendent of

553
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:12.640
the schools there, and him, my grandfather, my grandmother, my

554
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:19.400
great aunt Helen, my uncle's great uncle Steve, and two

555
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:25.200
of their kids and I rode horseback from their place

556
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.960
in Hillcrest up into the mountains to go on a

557
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:36.160
fishing trip fly fishing Mountain River up in Jasper Park.

558
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.559
It was. We're there for three days and we got

559
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.960
there late in the afternoon on the first day, and

560
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.839
the kid's job was to go along the edge of

561
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:54.240
the river, turning over rocks and getting what's called devil

562
00:31:54.359 --> 00:32:01.160
scratchers they're using for bait their nymphs. On a section

563
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:06.400
of river that had an upper waterfall and a lower waterfall,

564
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.599
And our campsite was at the bottom of the upper waterfall,

565
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.640
which was a little larger than the bottom one, and

566
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.119
the pool at the bottom of it was about twenty

567
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.599
foot deep, and the water was so crystal clear there

568
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.799
that you could flip a dime into the water and

569
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.799
when it hit the bottom, if it was facing heads up,

570
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.279
you could read the date on it. You could see

571
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:42.400
the fish swimming around. It was so fantastic. So it

572
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.799
was late afternoon, We had dinner and we went to

573
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.759
bed that night, got up the next day and started

574
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:56.559
fishing this hole. And I was too young to work

575
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.640
a fly ride at that time. I was only eleven,

576
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.680
and the two other kids that were there were slightly

577
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:11.119
younger than me, one girl, one boy, and we fished

578
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:15.319
for the better part of that morning into the afternoon.

579
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.480
It was a real hot day in August. Temperature got

580
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:24.440
up close to ninety degrees. I was in cut off

581
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:29.119
blue jeans, a T shirt and my tennis shoes with

582
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:35.279
no socks. So when we finished our fishing for the day,

583
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:41.200
the women were cleaning the fish and cooking shore lunch.

584
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.279
I asked my grandfather if I could go for a swim,

585
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.000
and he said, well, there's a couple of rules you

586
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.119
have to follow. One, when you jump in, you have

587
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:58.200
to jump in far from shores you can get because

588
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.599
I was jumping in above the up or waterfall, going

589
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:06.960
over the waterfall down the pool to the second waterfall

590
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.000
over that one, and then there was rapids probably another

591
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:16.000
one hundred yards down the river from that there was

592
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.840
a gravel bar. On the far side of the river

593
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:26.320
was a rock island, and he said, once you get

594
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:30.000
down to that, you have to get out and come

595
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:34.840
back up again, because past that area the river turned

596
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:39.599
to the right around the mountain, and that's where the

597
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.840
rapids got shallow and the grizzlies fish down down in

598
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:49.119
that area. So I jumped in to get off my

599
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:53.239
tennis shoes. I ran, and I pulled my shirt off.

600
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:57.199
I ran. I jumped off the bank and hit that water,

601
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.039
and it was like getting cut by a thousand razor

602
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.960
blades all at once. That water is so cold. It's

603
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.000
coming right off a glacier melt from up in the

604
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:15.199
mountains and running down. That's how they you know, they

605
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.679
took all the beer and the pop for us kids

606
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.920
on the pack horses, and when we got there, we

607
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.599
made a little pool for it on the side of

608
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.840
the river and they would set the bottles of the

609
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.960
warm beer and the warm pop in there, and within

610
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.159
a half hour it was ice cold. So the water

611
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.320
temperature was probably just a little above thirty two degrees.

612
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:46.199
So I went over the first waterfall and went down

613
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.519
to the second waterfall over that one, and as I'm

614
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:55.519
going down. The water's carrying me down, the currents carrying

615
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.639
me down. The two other kids were running along on

616
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.559
the bank, climbing them boulders and hopping boulder to boulder

617
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.239
and hooting and hollering and having a blast. We were

618
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.559
just being kids, you know. So I get up and

619
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:16.280
I get out at the rock bar. And as I

620
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.519
get out and we come back up to where the

621
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.760
camp is at, I went and I did it again

622
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.760
and jumped off and hit that water again and over

623
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.679
the waterfalls. I went down, and those kids ran down

624
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.159
with me again, hopping boulder to boulder and hooting and hollering.

625
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.760
And I get down to the rock gravel bar, and

626
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:48.639
I didn't realize just how cold my body was getting.

627
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.960
By that time. I was getting real close to the

628
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.960
point of hypothermia. But I got out and we climbed

629
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.400
our way back up again. And this whole run is

630
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:07.280
probably somewhere's between a quarter mile and a half a mile.

631
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.320
So when we get back up to the top, I

632
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.039
wanted to do it again. I didn't, Like I said,

633
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.440
I didn't realize just how hypothermic I was getting. So

634
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.400
when I jumped off this time, I didn't get out

635
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.559
far enough from the bank, and when I went over

636
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.880
the first waterfall, there was a big rock, flat rock

637
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:38.400
that we were fly fishing from that overhung and went

638
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:42.000
down into the water. I didn't know it at the

639
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.760
time that it was hollowed out underneath. And when I

640
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:53.360
went over the waterfall without jumping too far out, Eddie

641
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.559
took me along the edge and I got slammed against

642
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:01.760
the edge of that rock and drug underneath it, and

643
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.960
I grabbed a hold of the edge of the rock

644
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.960
with my fingers and my feet and my legs swung

645
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.159
down river and now I'm laid out and my nose

646
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:17.239
is underneath this big, huge, massive rock, and I'm fighting

647
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.360
the current and pulling myself back to where I got

648
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.360
my nose to the edge of the rock, and my

649
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.840
great uncle and my grandfather were at the top of

650
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:32.320
it looking down at me, and I'm looking up at them,

651
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:39.320
and my great uncle made this real funny face where

652
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.639
his eyes got real wide open, and he points and

653
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.960
he's like, oh, there he is, because they were wondering

654
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.800
where I disappeared to because I went underneath that rock,

655
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:58.440
you know. So about that time I was getting low

656
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.440
on breath, and he made me laugh so Now I

657
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.760
blew a whole bunch more air out, and I'm still

658
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.880
fighting this current, not knowing what to do. In a

659
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.559
voice came in my head and said, use your feet,

660
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.079
find a foothold. And I started running my feet on

661
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.480
the underside of that rock, and sure enough I found

662
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.320
a little crevice and I was able to get my

663
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.519
toes up into there. And it said, now I'll let

664
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.119
go and push hard with your legs, this voice in

665
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:39.920
my head. So I did that, and I came popping

666
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.199
back up into that lower pool below the big falls,

667
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.079
and I went down the river. But now I've been

668
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.920
underwater for almost a minute, and I was hypothermic to

669
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:57.000
begin with. Now I can't feel my hands. I'm not

670
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:01.719
able to swim very well. I go over the second waterfall.

671
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.960
I don't know how I kept from drowning. I mean,

672
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.360
I swallowed so much of that river water it was

673
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.920
it was amazing that I survived it. But I get

674
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:20.480
into the rapids area. I'm approaching that rock bar, that

675
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.960
gravel bar, and this time those two kids that were

676
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.800
running down with me, they got too tired out from

677
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:33.199
the first two trips that I made, and so I

678
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:38.280
got down to the gravel bar, and I'm I can't stand.

679
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.519
I can't use my hands to swim. So what I'm

680
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.719
doing is there's big boulders in the river, and as

681
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.239
I'm going by one, I'm hitting them with my legs

682
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.639
because my legs are out in front of me and

683
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.239
my body's back up upstream side. I'm grabbing them with

684
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.920
my arms because I can't use my hands or my

685
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:05.599
fingers they're too numb. And I'm holding on, hugging onto

686
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.000
these rocks.

687
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:07.840
And.

688
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.559
I would hold on as long as I could, and

689
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.360
i'd lose my grip and I'd go down river or

690
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.760
another ten fifteen yards and I'd get a hold of

691
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:24.519
another one. And this happened like three times. And then

692
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.039
I got down to the end of the gravel bar

693
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.440
and disappeared around the corner from where all the grown

694
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:36.920
ups were. And right about that time, I looked over

695
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.679
my shoulder as I'm holding onto this rock, and there's

696
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:47.400
about a thirteen hundred pound bore grizzly bear sitting in

697
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.840
the water fishing right in line with where I'm coming

698
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.960
down the water stream. I'm going to end up right

699
00:41:56.039 --> 00:42:00.920
in this thing's mouth. Oh my goodness, So I said

700
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.800
a little prayer in my head, I said, please Jesus,

701
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:10.119
I don't want to die by the teeth of this

702
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:16.360
grizzly bear today. And right after I said that in

703
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:27.519
my mind, this big loud roar scream came from up

704
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:31.280
the mountain side on the other side of where that

705
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.239
gravel bar was, so it was the opposite side of

706
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.000
the river that we were camping on. There was a

707
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.519
finger ridge that came down there to that gravel bar

708
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:49.199
location that kept us from seeing past that point because

709
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:56.760
it was higher that finger ridge. This sasquatch came running

710
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:03.719
down the side of that mountain carrying two rocks that

711
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.119
were bigger than bowling balls. He was palming them in

712
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:11.880
his hand, and he came right down to the edge

713
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.639
of the river. And when he let out that scream roar,

714
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.119
that grizzly bear didn't even look to see what made

715
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:26.519
that noise. It turned and high tailed it out the

716
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:31.880
opposite side of the river and disappeared into a willow thicket.

717
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.119
So now I'm laying in the river freezing my little

718
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:41.079
bones off. I mean, I'm probably eighty pounds soaking wet

719
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.880
at that time, at age eleven, you know, And here's

720
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:54.880
this big hairy monster that was probably a foot maybe

721
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.159
two feet taller than that bear if that bearwerd stand up,

722
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.440
and it's holding onto these two rocks, and I'm looking

723
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.199
at it and it's looking at me, and this thing

724
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:16.119
says to me in my head, are you okay? And

725
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.840
in my mind I said back to him, yeah, And

726
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.480
he says, well, why aren't you getting up? And I said,

727
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:29.239
I'm too cold in my mind to him, I am

728
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.119
too cold to even talk. I was too cold to

729
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.880
talk once I got plucked out of the water. But

730
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.440
then I kept looking at him in the face, going

731
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.159
down his body, looking at those rocks that he was carrying,

732
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.800
looking back up at him, and he kind of knew

733
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.320
what I was thinking. I was thinking, you know, I

734
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:56.239
was scared of him having those rocks. What are you

735
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.159
planning on doing with those rocks? And he says, oh,

736
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:05.599
those were for the bears, And so I said, are

737
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.239
you a monster? In my mind? What's eleven year old

738
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.039
kid in a say to a gigantic, hairy person standing there.

739
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:22.199
And he says, no, I'm the same as you. And

740
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.960
I was thinking, to my mind, okay, if you say so,

741
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.400
But I've never seen anybody that looks like you. And

742
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:36.960
then about that time I heard my great uncle and

743
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.639
my grandfather were running with their bear rifle and the

744
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.360
shotgun down the bank of the river, coming to get me.

745
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.960
They had heard scream roar, but they didn't see the thing.

746
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.000
And when I turned to look to see where they

747
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.760
were at, and then I turned to look back to

748
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:03.239
see where the subsquatch was, he was disappearing through a

749
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:11.400
portal and my great uncle was wearing hip waiters that

750
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:15.960
came up to his crotch. My grandfather didn't have his

751
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.760
waiters on it at the time, so he came out

752
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.840
in the river and got me, while my grandmother she

753
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.159
ran down too, and she's in big.

754
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.559
For society, who will be right back after these messages.

755
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.719
Intuitive she had a towel with her because she knew

756
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:53.880
I was going to be cold and wet, And so

757
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.679
my uncle picked me up, plucked me out of the water,

758
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.920
carried me over to the bank, helped me down. My

759
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.480
grandmother wrapped me up in the towel, dried me off,

760
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.960
and tried to get me as warm as she could,

761
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.920
and then they picked me up and carried me back

762
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:13.199
up to where we were camping, and I was throwing

763
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:18.960
up water. I was just shaking and shivering. My teeth

764
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:24.199
were chattering. I couldn't talk. They carried me back up

765
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.880
there and laid me down next to the fire that

766
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:31.039
the women were using to cook the fish that we

767
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.519
had caught. And they laid me down there. They covered

768
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:41.760
me with all kinds of blankets and sleeping bags, got

769
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.639
underneath the covers with me and wrapped me up in

770
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:48.039
their arms and rubbing my body and trying to get

771
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:55.639
me warm again. About thirty five minutes after they did

772
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:58.280
that and got me out of the water, I was

773
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:03.599
able to talk again, and I said, did you see

774
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:09.199
my Savior? And they thought I was talking about Jesus

775
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:16.039
and I said, no, I'm talking about that big ten foot,

776
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.360
hairy guy that was probably a thousand pounds. And they

777
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:26.840
said what And I said, didn't you hear that scream roar?

778
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.159
And they said, yeah, we heard that, but we never

779
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:37.360
heard anything like that before in our lives. And then yeah,

780
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:43.880
that was It was amazing. Then after that we stayed

781
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:49.599
with my great aunt my great uncle for I think

782
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:53.480
a week after we got back from that fishing trip.

783
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.159
And after we left their place, we went we went

784
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:05.800
all the way up through Alberta, went from the Jasper

785
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.519
area up into Banff. Then we went all the way

786
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.760
up into the Northwest Territories. We were there for three months,

787
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.760
and we were my grandfather had a sixty five Buick

788
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:24.039
Wildcat at the time, and I was always riding in

789
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.119
the back seat. We went all the way up into

790
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.360
the Northwest territories. Then we went further west and we

791
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:36.639
came back down the British Columbia, the east side of

792
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:42.480
British Columbia, right close to the Alberta border, and then

793
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.280
we went all the way back down and cut back

794
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.880
to the west again and went north and we went

795
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.159
all the way up into the Yukon territories. We were

796
00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:03.599
between I think it was Austin City and Beaver Creek,

797
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.679
and we were fishing a river there, and every time

798
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.079
we would go to one of these locations. My grandfather

799
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:17.320
had grown up in British Columbia. He was from the

800
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.440
Ukraine originally, and when he and him and his brother

801
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.880
were like one in two years old, his father defected

802
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.559
left their mother in the Ukraine. He took the two

803
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:38.480
boys and fled to British Columbia. So my grandfather grew

804
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.639
up there for the first sixteen years of his life,

805
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.719
and he wanted to show me all the things that

806
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:51.440
he experienced as a kid growing up out there. He

807
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:57.119
knew so many native people. Every time we would go

808
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.719
somewheres to take another fishing trip, take me to a

809
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.440
different river to go fish. He would leave the keys

810
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.760
to his sixty five Buick Wildcat, and the man would

811
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.599
give us like four or five horses three to ride,

812
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:18.559
and then couple the packed gear and we would go

813
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:24.400
for a week and stay on a river in different locations.

814
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:33.039
All throughout this area, I spent time around Lillouette. I

815
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:37.440
didn't realize at the time that this happened to me

816
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.360
in Jasper Park, that I had this ability to be

817
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:48.920
able to mind speak with these beings. But when I

818
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:56.199
got to the Yukon, we were camping again on the river,

819
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.519
and you don't camp right on the river because it's

820
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:06.599
too much noise from the water to hear any approaching

821
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.559
grizzly bears or anything like that. We're just sleeping on

822
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.760
bedrolls on the ground. We didn't have no tent or

823
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:18.159
anything like that, but you had a fire going at night,

824
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:22.519
and the first night that we were there, I heard

825
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:28.519
some whoops and some wood knocks coming from the other

826
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.199
side of the I mean, this was a big river

827
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.039
that we were on. You couldn't wade across this one.

828
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.480
You wouldn't want to go swimming in it. It was

829
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.079
that big of a river. We were on the Canadian

830
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:44.679
side of it and on the opposite side was Alaska.

831
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:51.320
So while we were there, we had the horses tethered.

832
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.360
We had a rope tethered between two trees, and we

833
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:59.480
had the reins tied to that rope. On the second

834
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:09.000
night we were there, we came under attack about I

835
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:14.760
think it was probably close to midnight where these this

836
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.599
group there. I guess you call them clans because they

837
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.840
running in like a family group they call it. I

838
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:30.159
guess they call themselves clans. And they started throwing rocks

839
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:40.840
and throwing trees, small trees at us, And so in

840
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.079
my mind, I'm trying to talk to them, and I

841
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.280
can't get through to the ones that are doing this attack.

842
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.440
But the one that I had to encounter with in

843
00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:02.519
Jasper Park was picking up my iron speak and he

844
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:09.400
showed up through a portal there in the Yukon and

845
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:13.000
he went and had a parlay with the had one

846
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.719
from the clan that was throwing the things at us,

847
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.679
And when he came back and talked to me, he

848
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.280
told me that it's under control. You guys are safe,

849
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:34.239
but you have to leave this area now. So we

850
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:39.440
went to leave, and my grandfather and grandmother were picking

851
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.760
everything up and packing them into the pack horses. We

852
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.360
tried to untie the reins from the horses. They had

853
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:51.880
been spooped so badly and were jerking on their reins

854
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.400
that the knots got so tight. We had to cut

855
00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.480
the reins with knife because we couldn't get or or

856
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.599
you would have had all three horses tied together with

857
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:08.320
this rope, you know. So we got that all set

858
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.000
and we started leading the horses out. And this is

859
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:15.360
like one o'clock in the morning now, and trying to

860
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:21.519
maneuver through mountainous areas is not the thing you want

861
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:26.079
to be doing. And I'm only eleven years old at

862
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:30.440
the time. I asked him, why did you help me

863
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:33.960
when I was in the river freezing? The first time

864
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.079
I saw him, I asked him, why did you help me?

865
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:42.400
And he said because you're worthy, And at eleven years old,

866
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:47.440
I didn't know what he meant by your worthy and

867
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.320
I was thinking, well, was it because he seen me

868
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.480
swim in this river that he's never seen a person

869
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:58.679
do that before, or was it that I was praying

870
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.960
to Jesus to not let me get eaten by the bear.

871
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.280
But then I found out when we were in the

872
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:14.039
Ukraine that that's what his name for me was. That's

873
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:22.280
just what he called me, like a name. So we

874
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:26.760
packed up. He went back to Alberta through a portal.

875
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:32.159
We packed up the horses and let him out, went

876
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.800
back and gave the guy back his horses and his equipment.

877
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.679
My grandfather had to replace the reins that we had

878
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:46.719
to cut, give him money for that. We left there

879
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:52.599
and we went south again along the coastal BC, the

880
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:58.519
west side of BC, went down to Jasper or Vancouver.

881
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:05.960
We went to vancouverover Island, went to Victoria on Vancouver Island,

882
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:12.079
and my grandfather, me and my grandmother were walking a

883
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:18.239
trail that goes along through the middle part of the island.

884
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:21.559
The further to the coasts that you get, the closer

885
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:25.000
to either coast you get the I mean, it becomes

886
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:31.119
unnavitable on foot. But in the middle part of it

887
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:36.599
there was areas where you could you walk fairly easy through.

888
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:41.480
We were heading for a river that my grandfather wanted

889
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:46.159
to fish. It was a good Steelhead river. And as

890
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.840
we were walking along, I got mine spoke to again

891
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:56.079
by a different plan of these things, and they told

892
00:57:56.199 --> 00:58:02.840
me that not to keep going because there's danger ahead,

893
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:06.880
to turn around and go back. And I didn't want

894
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.960
to tell my grandparents at the time that these things

895
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:15.840
are talking to me and telling me what to do,

896
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.239
so I just made up a thing. I said, you

897
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.119
know what, I'm really hungry. Can we go get something

898
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:26.440
to eat? And I'm kind of cold and hungry. And

899
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.679
I got my grandparents to turn around and take me

900
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:39.559
back to Victoria on Vancouver Island. But that's I mean,

901
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:45.000
that's three times in nineteen sixty seven that I had

902
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:46.719
encounters with them.

903
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:55.360
That is intense. I feel like we could. I feel

904
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.119
like there might even be more to this, but.

905
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:01.280
There is there is.

906
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:05.159
Yeah, absolutely, would you be able to reach out to

907
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:12.960
me through my email? I feel that it would be

908
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.039
cool if we could have like a follow up.

909
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:21.440
Interview because I also had encounters in Ohio, Okay. I

910
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:26.159
had an encounter in Georgia, one in Florida, and one

911
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:27.119
here in Michigan.

912
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:28.320
Mackerel.

913
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:34.199
I believe that. I don't know if you've ever heard

914
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.599
of the term being tagged.

915
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.000
Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely well.

916
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:41.920
I believe that that's what happened to me on the

917
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:48.920
river on that first encounter. When he asked me why

918
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.199
I wasn't getting up if I was okay, and I

919
00:59:52.239 --> 01:00:00.920
told him I was too cold. I could feel it's

920
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:07.320
hard to describe, kind of like a magnetic or electrical

921
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:11.719
type of stimulation in the back part of my head.

922
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:18.400
Absolutely yeah, through my body that I think he was

923
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:20.079
warming me up.

924
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:32.960
Through infrasound, intrasound or something like that. I believe that

925
01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:36.400
he kind of like saved my life that day on

926
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:40.239
that river. But I don't know if he did this

927
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:45.159
on his own validity or whether the Savior, Jesus Christ

928
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.800
asked him to do it for him following what Jesus

929
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:54.599
wanted him to do. I don't know. In early nineteen eighties,

930
01:00:54.679 --> 01:01:00.559
I went to Cleveland, Ohio to become a bricklayer. My

931
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:07.519
uncle he was a general contractor in Willoughby, Ohio, and

932
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:16.679
Salt Fork State Park is just northeast of outside of Cleveland,

933
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:24.239
near Willoughby, and I had an encounter there where I

934
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:29.400
saw one of these things. And then in nineteen eighty three,

935
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.679
I was down in Georgia working on a high rise

936
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:41.320
on the Chattahoochee River and I met this marine guy,

937
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.960
a fresh out of the Marine Corps. He was from Michigan.

938
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.559
I was from Michigan. So we hung out a little bit,

939
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:55.440
and one Saturday we went to Kennesaw Mountain in Georgia.

940
01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:01.320
It's a little north I believe, northwest, a little bit

941
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of Atlanta. And we were in the parking lot drinking

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beer and he smoked cigarettes. I didn't smoke. And he said,

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you know, I could beat you in a foot race

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up that mountain. And I said, yeah, not on your

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best day, you couldn't. And so we took off for

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a foot race and I made it up to the

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top of that mountain, and he was probably only a

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quarter of the way up from the bottom by the

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time I made the top. So I was up there

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just catching my breath and trying to rest, and here

951
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was a female subsquatch doing the tree peeping where she

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would lean out and look at me, and then when

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I would look back at her, she would duck back

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behind the true So I did the mind speak thing

955
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with her. But the thing is a female like that

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is never going to be alone. There's always going to

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be a big male nearby as a protector for her. Yeah.

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Absolutely, you don't see them by themselves from what I've heard.

959
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Yeah, No, they are in clans, and there's clans all

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over because I've experienced them in three different locations in Canada,

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but I like to hunt different locations and check out

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new areas.

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At this point in the interview, Michael lost connection and

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was unable to continue his account here. A Big for

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Society art goal is to provide a platform for those

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01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.440
that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a

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01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:59.559
safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story.

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If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please

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send me an email at Bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot com.

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Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot

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of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's

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been twenty years and it's time that you get this

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off your chest and then you can get some well

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deserved for rest. Because I know you haven't been sleeping.

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I understand what you're going through and I appreciate every

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one of.

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You listening Bigfoot Society podcasts hosted by our captain Jeremiah Byron.

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Here's the list. These are all in Oregon. By the Way, Oakridge,

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Dexter Fall Creek, to Shoot National Forest Area, Cultist Lake,

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Spirit Lake, Stubtle Lake, Mackinseie River Area, Sweet Home Area,

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the area west of Creterlake, east of two thirty West

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Diamondlake Highway and north of sixty two Creter Lake Highway.

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You can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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see you there and again, thanks for listening.