Sasquatch Saved Me From the Grizzly! (A Collection of Interviews) | Alberta, Canada

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on with the show. The following episode is a collection of impromptu interviews from a recent TikTok Live. My name is Jeremia from Bigfoot Society. I just had a crazy interview today with a gentleman down in Webster County, Kentucky. This guy was sharing some wild wild stuff in an area.

0:56 Oh okay, we got we got an individual that wants to come on up. Let's see what's up hill. How's it going. Nice to meet you, dude. Ah, yeah, it's good to meet you. My name is Bill Brock. I've been in the whole Bigfoot world pretty much since the media aspect of Bigfoot was a thing. I've been around for a little while, I guess, okay, and so I've been watching your podcast or whatever you want to call it here on TikTok, and I really I like what you're doing, And yeah, i'd like to know if you see any patterns or anything and what you're doing that might help us figure out what bigfoot is or if it migrates, or you know, just some of your thoughts that you've kind of like found doing this.

1:51 Yeah, definitely. So I've been doing this for a few years, but I would say focused on Bigfoot just for like the maybe two maximum. So something I've been trying to figure out lately actually is if the encounters, if people are starting to share more as we go along, or if it's just because I'm getting to be a bigger platform. And I'm not sure what the answer to that is, because I mean, as of right now, I'm getting people reaching out all over the place every single day. I would like to think that maybe it's people are starting to realize, hey, if UFO stuff is getting out there, my bigfoot stuff can get out there and I'm not going to be made fun of. So that's something I've noticed both.

2:41 Things that you talked about, because what I found is a lot of people just want to tell their story. They just want somebody to hear what happened to them and then hopefully have somebody that can relate to what they experienced and then kind of like find this commonality in community within that. And that's something that has happened, you know, in big footing for years. And I think that, yes, you do have a larger platform, and you know, like I said, there's a lot of people that really want to share their story. Yeah, absolutely, And that's a good point. Another thing I try to do, that Sonya point in the comments is that I try to make a space where people can share just what happened. I don't have to worry about being made fun of or like judging or anything like that.

3:32 I try to just let them be able to share, and then I ask some follow up questions too, But for the most part, I try to let them just talk, you know, And I think that's been that's been very effective. But so you mentioned you've been in in bigfoot for quite a long time, Like how long are we talking about Bill? At least gosh, probably two thy twelve. I dove into it really hard online. It might have been closer to two thousand and eight. So I started off with a good friend of mine, Sean Evidence and Bigfoot Evidence, and there was a bunch of guys that were part of that, man Rose Sahibe, I don't know, there was a bunch of us, Michael Merchant, all of us. And so I started rolling with those guys. And I don't know if you remember back when what's his face? There was said he shot the big Foot up this year as can't think his name, yes, Justin So I was definitely deep within that as well. And yeah, all those people are good friends of mine, and that's the crew I came into bigfooting with.

4:48 And so. You know, I've been doing this for a long time. I ended up having my own show on Discovery where we chased you know, bigfoot aliens and that sort of thing, and that turned into the whole paranormal slash UFO stuff I've been doing. I have a couple films out there in the world. I think there's one on Netflix I recently did called Marfa Lights. And we went to Marfa, Texas and investigated some lights down there that people feel are UFOs. I also have done quite a few films with a guy named Stacy Brown. Stacy Brown's a really pretty well known bigfooter, and Stacey and I've worked on multiple projects together over the years. And yeah, long story short, man, I've been doing this for a long time. I've been making films and yeah, just listening to people's stories for a lot of years.

5:44 It sounds like you do know some stuff about bigfoot. Have you had any interesting stuff out to happen out there? Have you gone out looking and had interactions or anything. Yes, specifically one that I can't explain that a bunch of us were part of. I went down to Miaca, Florida a few years ago, maybe six seven years ago now, and there had been a sighting where this guy filmed what he thought was a bigfoot running through a field out in Mayaca, Florida. So we went down there and myself, Stacy Brown, and a few other people investigated this thing and we ended up getting on thermal what seemed to be somewhat about seven foot tall running naked through the forest.

6:30 And I mean we all saw it, and we went back the next day and found Prince to confirm what we had seen. To this day, I still don't know what that was. If you go onto my YouTube channel and you go back way a long time ago, it's gosh, I wouldn't even know what this is, what it's called, but it probably has something to do with Mayaca, I would say. And there's a couple of videos in there, and the first videos solid it was us meeting the guy who filmed the Bigfoot and we went out and talked to him and he had a picture of a that he claimed that a bigfoot had urinated on and he tried to get DNA.

7:14 Off of that. Yeah, it was. It was wild man. We definitely had something run right by us. And when I say there was multiple people there, we were basically in a line. There were two people together about every thirty feet and we had the total of six people, no, seven, seven people. This thing ran by me, ran right by the next group. We're all seeing this thing on thermal and it runs right at Stacy Brown. It just about random over and it just stopped in his tracks, turned hard left and just went and just it was gone. And man, we had all that on thermal. So yeah, I've definitely had encounters, but you know, I still don't know what it was. Man.

8:02 You know, we definitely saw something, but I don't know. I've had some stuff. If you look up like the I don't know, I guess like the Durham gorilla, or like if you just looked up my name and bigfoot, you would come along. This this video that is a something out in the woods that a kid videoed with his cell phone. And I remember that one. Yeah, you know, I'm being really honest with you, man, I really did my due diligence to debunk that thing, because that's that's what I really like doing. I really like going out and debunking these these situations and finding out what really happened. So anyway, I went and investigated this thing, and I couldn't debunk it. There was a definite trackway and I'm not talking one or two prints.

8:50 I'm telling you like quarter mile of prints. They were broken trees within that path. There were so many signs to point to this thing being a real bigfoot that you know it Really that's one that I really look back on and I wish I would have just got my camping gear and spent a few days in the woods because when I got there it was fresh. It just happened, and so I should have, looking back at it, just spind a couple of nights in the woods, because I think that is probably the closest I will ever get to solving this mystery, because I believe that was a real sighting.

9:36 Yeah, I'm looking at right now. It's very interesting. How so you saw the tracks yourself? I mean, how far apart were those? Like? What was the gate that you were looking at? You know, I don't want to I don't want to say without being sure, right, you know, I don't like speculations. So I did have a friend of mine, his name's A j He's about five foot eight, five foot nine. He tried stepping in the prints and duplicating what we you know, what he saw and he had to really stretch to step in those prints. So I would say, you know, whatever it was from our calculations was around seven foot tall. We did do proper calculations because the prints were still there. Man. So like what we did is we took the original video, shot it on the original phone, took an overlaid the original video, and I overlaid my buddy walking on top of the other one, and the measurements came out to whatever it was was like seven foot.

10:47 So I know it wasn't a kid. I know that kid wasn't the person or the bigfoot or whatever it was in the video. And yeah, I don't have any explanation for it, but I'm willing to say that that's probably one of the best videos I've ever seen. If you look really close at his feet as he takes a step forward, you can actually see the mid tarsar break flex backwards, so it doesn't just flas forward. The mid tartal break actually flecks inward, you know, and so it almost looks like he has a flipper on, like you. Know what I mean, like it I see it. Yeah, it's so weird, man, Like, yeah, I've never seen anything like it. To be honest, I've actually never seen this one.

11:35 Now that I think about it, this is weird. It is pretty weird, and I honestly, really, I honestly tried to go there and debunk it. I pressured his father to pressure him to find out if you're lying, you know, and his father swop her down that his son wasn't lying and I did everything I could, and I still say that that's probably the closest I'll ever be to actually solving this, you know, dude. That's why if people want to see what we're talking about, go to YouTube. Go to the Bill Brock YouTube channel.

12:16 It's the video I believe we're talking about. Main Bigfoot Footage Enhanced is the one that's that's a really good view of it. But yeah, guys, check it out. This is really it's good stuff. It's about nine years old, so that's probably why, you know, just it's just old enough, like the Justin Smaha story that people don't remember it. It's just old enough, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been doing this stuff forever. Man. I've literally researched all over the planet for this thing, and there's only two places I have ever been where I really think besides you know here Main in that footage that I think that there is a lot of activity.

12:59 There is a two guys that used to be really popular, Bigfooters of Dallas and Wayne Dallas and Wayne had a big Foot movie and it was called My Bigfoot Movie, I'm pretty sure, and it. Was absolutely amazing movie. It was really about the friendship between those two, but they went out big footing and stuff, and I became intrigued with these guys after watching that film, and so I ended up hooking up with him and going out big footing with him a few times and made some videos and stuff and amazing guys. They have a place in the Wayne National Forest in southern Ohio. So I went out footing with those guys, man, and they took me to this spot where farmers dumped their dead animals when they just die for random reasons. Dude, it was wild man. Michael Merchant and I were out there and we were literally having like rocks and stuff thrown at us from the woods. And in Michael merchants, I really don't talk to him much anymore, but he is an amazing outdoorsman. He's a biologist. He's he's everything that you would have what bigfoot to be because he is science based.

14:03 And so we were out there and man, we were like having things thrown at us, and we tried to flank it. We tried to do everything we could in order to get eyes on it, and we we never could. But yeah, that that place was definitely active Wayne National Forest. Wayne National I need to double check that is in Ohio. Yes, they're southern Ohio, close to like, okay, cool Portsmouth. I would say, all right, it's in that southeast corner for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, north of Point Pleasant though, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah. Oh man, Bill, I love I love talking to you.

14:44 You've got a lot of good info. You're you're You're a good dude, I can tell. But man, we'll need to keep in touch for sure. We brought a good chats down the road big for society. Who will be right back after these messages. Thanks for letting me jump on and kind of chat for a minute, and yeah, I'll stick around again. I see how things are going. Absolutely thanks for chatting Bill. Yeah, thank you everybody. But all right, good stuff. That was fun meeting Bill.

15:28 He seems like a solid dude. Let's get caught up with the comments here and guys, if you're new to this, we're talking about Bigfoot. A few things to point out real quick, Phil, Thank you to everyone that has been that sent some some incredible gifts. Every gift goes towards future travel. I appreciate that there's a lot of people that won't talk over the phone. They only talk face to face, so I appreciate everyone does that. We've got a question here, has anyone had counters with Bigfoot? With UFOs and Poulter get okay, So that's interesting questions. So a lot of people, like let's say southwest Southwest Pennsylvania and Chestnut Ridge people, there's a lot of sightings where it's a UFO siding then Bigfoot the next day, or UFOs and Bigfoot together. Something about that area. You can look up Stan Gordon books and yeah, you can get more info on that. Hold on, now, polter guys, sometimes people will We'll say, is still have an interaction with Bigfoot?

16:37 And then they'll come back home and something will follow them home and they'll start to have weird things happening around their house, shato people, stuff being moved, poltergeist type activities. So I have talked to people that have experienced that. All on. If that's what your question is, s asks anything in Kansas or Nebraska. Two things that come to let's see, actually Kansas not at the top of my head, but if we're talking about just over the line into Missouri, there's an area called Monkey Mountain just north of Kansas City. You might want to check it out. Nebraska, there's an area a county south of Omaha called Odo County. It's wild.

17:24 My buddy Steve Berg is investigating it. There's some wild wild stuff going on over there, so look into that as well. About Montana, Yeah, Montana's got some wild stuff going on. One of the things I talked to a gentleman named Ken Metzker a few years ago. He's a researcher up in Manyana, and him and other people who potentially could be listening wink wink, have let me know that, Yes, there are definitely grizzly bears that are getting their next snapped in the in the Montana area, and most people think that they're from bigfoot sot. Yeah, many sightings in Montana going on the last few years, Kenneth, I would really like to see sasquatch from the safe distance with a good vehicle. Yeah, no, I get it. I'll share something I learned out in Oregon. This is they took me thirty miles out in the woods in the Lamit National Forest to an area that's super squatchy, lots of activity, and I learned something experience very important out there is if you pull into an area where there's a lot of big food activity. It is best to make sure that your vehicle is turned around so that you don't have to do a turn really quick if something's chasing, you do that ahead of time. These guys have been chased so much that they immediately when they get out, before they park, they are turned around so they can

18:56 jet out of there quick. It's a whole different story out there. Esther, did you see one? That's a great question. So let I share this usually a few times. So let me go over what interactions I've had so far over the last three years. So starting three years ago, my friend Tate Horoonymous is your researcher out of Florida, but he has an area in Iowa, my home seat. He finally got me to go out with him. We had some stuff happened. First time out. We had a tree get pushed over. We had wood knocks around our campsite. The next year, I heard woops from my tent. This last year I also heard whoops from my tent again.

19:42 Another tree get pushed over. What knocks all over the place. No visuals also went to Oregon this last July. Roar De screamed at No Visuals missed being led by about five hours. So I'm going up back to Oregon again. Going back to Oregon again next year. Hopefully if I keep going out there, I'll have something happen. I'm also into Oklahoma, south East Oklahoma next October. Allison, thanks for coming up. Hey, how's it going? Hey? Good? Cool? So up there in you said, Vancouver Island, Yeah, awesome.

20:22 So what's going on up there? Oh? A lot of a lot of squatchy stuff. So well, we'll date back to like one of the earlier stories, probably the first first one. So Vancouver Island, like it's you know, people think it's small, it's actually quite massive. So my boyfriend's his grandfather was like a police chief out in. It's called Tasse. It's a real small town. And this would have been probably around nineteen probably probably around the eighties. So anyways, real small town and they would go around with like a police boat. And anyway, so his grandpa he found basically this hermit. So they meet this guy and they're like, and this guy's lived out on his own for like twenty plus years, and so they developed like a relationship and he's like, hey, like, how about I bring you some supplies. Every you know, X amount of months, so you know, every few months or so, he would the guy would be waiting on the beach for him. He'd come up with the police boat and had a miss supplies and then off they'd go.

21:33 They really didn't talk much, Like I said, this guy's a. Pretty big hermit. So then anyways, one day he gets up and to the beach and the guy's like nowhere to be found, like no place at all. So then he starts looking for him. He's never been inside his house or anything. They find his trail and they find his like a frame cabin, right, and so Ken's. Like banging on the door. He's like, hey, man, like are you in there? Like what's going on? Anyways, the guy is like he looks through the. Window and he sees that he's like huddled in the corner just like looks like he like, I don't know, saw like a like a horrific car crash or something, just starstruck.

22:16 So anyways, he kicks down the door and he's like, hey, man, like are you okay? Like what's going on? The guy can make out any words, so he can cans him his police like notepad and and the guy's shaking and he draws he draws a sasquatch basically in the doorway. And that guy left with him them on the boat that day and never went back, and he lived there for twenty years. I have a ton of stories. Actually, let me know how many would like me to tell? What year is that again? Oh so I'm gonna say it's around because ken Off he's he's around, and he's in his eighties, so I would say yeah, I would probably say like around nineteen eighty ish. All in that air like Vancouver Isle, people'll call like Vancouver Island, like Ape Island.

23:06 I've actually talked to a gentleman from Gold River, which looks like is up in that area. No, it's actually on the way. You have to go to Gold River to get to tast this. Actually another one. This is around Pearl Lake. This is my boyfriend's dad. These are all it's kind of crazy. I feel like sasquatch kind of they kind of like pick and choose people. I think that they want to make themselves known to you. Right, So anyways, Pat him and his friends like they there's there's this like cabin type thing that you can get to and you have to like bushwack and then it takes less time. Like there's like a tinny that's like stashed in the bush. So if you take the tinny to this cabin, you uh, it would only take like twenty minutes to get across the lake versus like walking for like.

23:57 Two hours around. So anyways, they've they hiked up there and done all of that quite a few times. And so one of Pat's friends, I want to say, it's Burt. He he's a carpenter. He's like always got his carpenter Bell Danham. He's got dogs. They're like, you know, like like I think, like coon dogs, Like they're they're hunting dogs, right, So these dogs are you know, they're not scared of anything. They're you know, they're meant to hunt. They're meant to hunt cougars and bears and deer, you know what I mean. Like they're they're not afraid of anything. So AnyWho, they're walking and they hear noises and they hear a like it's so loud that they can feel like the vibration in their chest and they're like they're freaking out, and they're like all right, they what they ended up being able to cross the lake in like ten minutes, like they're hauling, right. So they get up to the cabin. They get in there and Bert uh nailed because he had his his his carpet belt right like, he nailed the door shut. And then for hours they had rocks like being thrown down the bluff at them, you know.

25:09 And in the. Morning, these dogs didn't leave the porch to take a piss. They pissed on the porch Like that's got to be something, you know. Oh wow, So. Yeah, you know, it's uh, it's pretty crazy. I'll tell you another story. So this one is pretty recent. So my also my boyfriend's uncle, like he's he's a pretty like well known guy around here. He's got like a lot of friends, a lot of guys like in the like the chartering business, like that kind of thing. Right, So his friend tells them the story about uh. So he flies like a helicopter and anyway, so there's like a government like geologist he's coming to somewhere, was somewhere around like the tip of the island to study like this like.

25:56 Thousand year old bear trail, you know. AnyWho, so you know, they'd set up like a thing for him, like that he knew he was going to be out here for like a month, like obviously he's not unfamiliar with like being in the woods, like what's in the woods, Like he knew that he was there to like take samples, study this bear trail, et cetera. Right, AnyWho, so he gets dropped off. And mind you, this guy has like thousands of dollars worth of like equipment with him, like he's prepared to be out there for a while. So I guess this guy is, uh, he's taking samples out of the water, and all of a sudden he has got uh like boulders being thrown at him, like full on, like not rocks, boulders.

26:39 So then he like and then he you know, he sees sasquatch, right, and he runs to his cabin. He's freaking out. I guess these things screamed at him for like eight hours. And any who, he calls. You know, the the helicopter guy, and he's like, you need to pick me up. Like right now. And the guy's like came out like it's I can't like it's it's dark, like it's whatever time it was, right, He's like, Okay, I'll come like first thing in the morning, and even like the helicopter pilot he's like all right, like he. Didn't get any sleep that night, YadA, YadA, YadA. So anyways, he flies over to him and you know, I don't know, lands the helicopter and gets out and turns around.

27:21 He's like looking for the guy. The guy's already booking it into the helicopter and he's like okay, and he's like, hey, like what about all your stuff. He's like, let's just get me out of here. Right. So anyways, you know, the helicopter pilot like he has a pretty good idea of like what's going on, so he uh, you know, the guy just like looks like he's you know, like seeing something horrific. So he kind of turns them and so a little squatchy out here, eh, And I guess the guy turned at him like why the id's like what. Do you know? You know? So he told him what he knew from like the local like indigenous people and just being in that area, right, and so that's why he told him the story that I just told you. And yeah, so like thousands like he was just like, you know, he like somebody who's out there. You know, they know what they're you probably just wouldn't account for seeing something like that.

28:10 But anyways, Yeah, that's just a few of the stories. Did that happen in Duncan then, or was that a different time? I know that I think would be like I want to say, like they said, like around the tip of the island, so I'm going to say, like around like Cape Scott area. But you know, it seems like actually just in the summertime, my boyfriend's parents went out camping. I think it was around Catherine Lake, and I want to say that's near like Port McNeil, just any anywhere out that way, right. They they also had like another like kind of sasquatch experience. I didn't really hear the story. I just know like they Yeah, anyways, I didn't hear the full story, but I know that they recently had one as well. And honestly, like you know, these stories have been passed to me, and like I'm probably not doing them as much justice as you know, as them telling them, but super interesting, Like I never really put a whole lot of thought into sasquatch before. But you know, I'm not somebody who needs to see them. I'm like they're for sure real like that, I'm good.

29:15 Oh yeah, I mean that whole island is I've heard stuff from all over Vancouver Island, like Nanaimo, the other I just Gold River, all that stuff. But thank you for coming up and for sharing. It gives definitely some new areas to look into, and I appreciate you sharing. Yeah, no problem. I hear a ton of stories, like I feel like I go looking for them too. Like I'm a hairdress dresser, so any of my clients that come from like the more rural areas, I always ask them if they have any stories. So it's it's pretty neat. But yeah, thanks for having me on here. Yeah, my emails up there. If you ever want to pass it on to anyone, feel free to do so. But yeah, thank you for chatting.

29:55 Okay, okay, see thanks encounter. You hear me. Hey, Michael, thanks for coming up. So what happened up there in Canada? Man? Well, I was up there on a trip with my grandparents in nineteen sixty seven. We went to the Calgary Stampede was where we first started, and we stayed in a teepee with a tribe of Indians for four days at the Calgary Stampede. Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

30:53 After we left there, we went to My great uncle lived in hillcrewt Canada, and he was the superintendent of the schools there, and him, my grandfather, my grandmother, my great aunt Helen, my uncle's great uncle Steve, and two of their kids and I rode horseback from their place in Hillcrest up into the mountains to go on a fishing trip fly fishing Mountain River up in Jasper Park.

31:37 It was. We're there for three days and we got there late in the afternoon on the first day, and the kid's job was to go along the edge of the river, turning over rocks and getting what's called devil scratchers they're using for bait their nymphs. On a section of river that had an upper waterfall and a lower waterfall, And our campsite was at the bottom of the upper waterfall, which was a little larger than the bottom one, and the pool at the bottom of it was about twenty foot deep, and the water was so crystal clear there that you could flip a dime into the water and when it hit the bottom, if it was facing heads up, you could read the date on it. You could see the fish swimming around. It was so fantastic. So it was late afternoon, We had dinner and we went to bed that night, got up the next day and started fishing this hole. And I was too young to work a fly ride at that time. I was only eleven, and the two other kids that were there were slightly younger than me, one girl, one boy, and we fished

33:11 for the better part of that morning into the afternoon. It was a real hot day in August. Temperature got up close to ninety degrees. I was in cut off blue jeans, a T shirt and my tennis shoes with no socks. So when we finished our fishing for the day, the women were cleaning the fish and cooking shore lunch. I asked my grandfather if I could go for a swim, and he said, well, there's a couple of rules you have to follow. One, when you jump in, you have to jump in far from shores you can get because I was jumping in above the up or waterfall, going over the waterfall down the pool to the second waterfall over that one, and then there was rapids probably another one hundred yards down the river from that there was a gravel bar. On the far side of the river was a rock island, and he said, once you get down to that, you have to get out and come back up again, because past that area the river turned to the right around the mountain, and that's where the rapids got shallow and the grizzlies fish down down in

34:43 that area. So I jumped in to get off my tennis shoes. I ran, and I pulled my shirt off. I ran. I jumped off the bank and hit that water, and it was like getting cut by a thousand razor blades all at once. That water is so cold. It's coming right off a glacier melt from up in the mountains and running down. That's how they you know, they took all the beer and the pop for us kids on the pack horses, and when we got there, we made a little pool for it on the side of the river and they would set the bottles of the warm beer and the warm pop in there, and within a half hour it was ice cold. So the water temperature was probably just a little above thirty two degrees.

35:42 So I went over the first waterfall and went down to the second waterfall over that one, and as I'm going down. The water's carrying me down, the currents carrying me down. The two other kids were running along on the bank, climbing them boulders and hopping boulder to boulder and hooting and hollering and having a blast. We were just being kids, you know. So I get up and I get out at the rock bar. And as I get out and we come back up to where the camp is at, I went and I did it again and jumped off and hit that water again and over the waterfalls. I went down, and those kids ran down with me again, hopping boulder to boulder and hooting and hollering.

36:39 And I get down to the rock gravel bar, and I didn't realize just how cold my body was getting. By that time. I was getting real close to the point of hypothermia. But I got out and we climbed our way back up again. And this whole run is probably somewhere's between a quarter mile and a half a mile. So when we get back up to the top, I wanted to do it again. I didn't, Like I said, I didn't realize just how hypothermic I was getting. So when I jumped off this time, I didn't get out far enough from the bank, and when I went over the first waterfall, there was a big rock, flat rock that we were fly fishing from that overhung and went down into the water. I didn't know it at the time that it was hollowed out underneath. And when I went over the waterfall without jumping too far out, Eddie took me along the edge and I got slammed against the edge of that rock and drug underneath it, and I grabbed a hold of the edge of the rock with my fingers and my feet and my legs swung down river and now I'm laid out and my nose

38:12 is underneath this big, huge, massive rock, and I'm fighting the current and pulling myself back to where I got my nose to the edge of the rock, and my great uncle and my grandfather were at the top of it looking down at me, and I'm looking up at them, and my great uncle made this real funny face where his eyes got real wide open, and he points and he's like, oh, there he is, because they were wondering where I disappeared to because I went underneath that rock, you know. So about that time I was getting low on breath, and he made me laugh so Now I blew a whole bunch more air out, and I'm still fighting this current, not knowing what to do. In a voice came in my head and said, use your feet, find a foothold. And I started running my feet on the underside of that rock, and sure enough I found a little crevice and I was able to get my toes up into there. And it said, now I'll let go and push hard with your legs, this voice in my head. So I did that, and I came popping back up into that lower pool below the big falls,

39:44 and I went down the river. But now I've been underwater for almost a minute, and I was hypothermic to begin with. Now I can't feel my hands. I'm not able to swim very well. I go over the second waterfall. I don't know how I kept from drowning. I mean, I swallowed so much of that river water it was it was amazing that I survived it. But I get into the rapids area. I'm approaching that rock bar, that gravel bar, and this time those two kids that were running down with me, they got too tired out from the first two trips that I made, and so I got down to the gravel bar, and I'm I can't stand.

40:38 I can't use my hands to swim. So what I'm doing is there's big boulders in the river, and as I'm going by one, I'm hitting them with my legs because my legs are out in front of me and my body's back up upstream side. I'm grabbing them with my arms because I can't use my hands or my fingers they're too numb. And I'm holding on, hugging onto these rocks. And. I would hold on as long as I could, and i'd lose my grip and I'd go down river or another ten fifteen yards and I'd get a hold of another one. And this happened like three times. And then I got down to the end of the gravel bar and disappeared around the corner from where all the grown ups were. And right about that time, I looked over my shoulder as I'm holding onto this rock, and there's about a thirteen hundred pound bore grizzly bear sitting in the water fishing right in line with where I'm coming down the water stream. I'm going to end up right in this thing's mouth. Oh my goodness, So I said a little prayer in my head, I said, please Jesus, I don't want to die by the teeth of this

42:10 grizzly bear today. And right after I said that in my mind, this big loud roar scream came from up the mountain side on the other side of where that gravel bar was, so it was the opposite side of the river that we were camping on. There was a finger ridge that came down there to that gravel bar location that kept us from seeing past that point because it was higher that finger ridge. This sasquatch came running down the side of that mountain carrying two rocks that were bigger than bowling balls. He was palming them in his hand, and he came right down to the edge of the river. And when he let out that scream roar, that grizzly bear didn't even look to see what made that noise. It turned and high tailed it out the opposite side of the river and disappeared into a willow thicket.

43:32 So now I'm laying in the river freezing my little bones off. I mean, I'm probably eighty pounds soaking wet at that time, at age eleven, you know, And here's this big hairy monster that was probably a foot maybe two feet taller than that bear if that bearwerd stand up, and it's holding onto these two rocks, and I'm looking at it and it's looking at me, and this thing says to me in my head, are you okay? And in my mind I said back to him, yeah, And he says, well, why aren't you getting up? And I said, I'm too cold in my mind to him, I am too cold to even talk. I was too cold to talk once I got plucked out of the water. But then I kept looking at him in the face, going down his body, looking at those rocks that he was carrying, looking back up at him, and he kind of knew what I was thinking. I was thinking, you know, I was scared of him having those rocks. What are you planning on doing with those rocks? And he says, oh, those were for the bears, And so I said, are

45:05 you a monster? In my mind? What's eleven year old kid in a say to a gigantic, hairy person standing there. And he says, no, I'm the same as you. And I was thinking, to my mind, okay, if you say so, But I've never seen anybody that looks like you. And then about that time I heard my great uncle and my grandfather were running with their bear rifle and the shotgun down the bank of the river, coming to get me.

45:45 They had heard scream roar, but they didn't see the thing. And when I turned to look to see where they were at, and then I turned to look back to see where the subsquatch was, he was disappearing through a portal and my great uncle was wearing hip waiters that came up to his crotch. My grandfather didn't have his waiters on it at the time, so he came out in the river and got me, while my grandmother she ran down too, and she's in big.

46:26 For society, who will be right back after these messages. Intuitive she had a towel with her because she knew I was going to be cold and wet, And so my uncle picked me up, plucked me out of the water, carried me over to the bank, helped me down. My grandmother wrapped me up in the towel, dried me off, and tried to get me as warm as she could, and then they picked me up and carried me back up to where we were camping, and I was throwing up water. I was just shaking and shivering. My teeth were chattering. I couldn't talk. They carried me back up there and laid me down next to the fire that the women were using to cook the fish that we had caught. And they laid me down there. They covered me with all kinds of blankets and sleeping bags, got underneath the covers with me and wrapped me up in their arms and rubbing my body and trying to get me warm again. About thirty five minutes after they did that and got me out of the water, I was

47:58 able to talk again, and I said, did you see my Savior? And they thought I was talking about Jesus and I said, no, I'm talking about that big ten foot, hairy guy that was probably a thousand pounds. And they said what And I said, didn't you hear that scream roar? And they said, yeah, we heard that, but we never heard anything like that before in our lives. And then yeah, that was It was amazing. Then after that we stayed with my great aunt my great uncle for I think a week after we got back from that fishing trip.

48:54 And after we left their place, we went we went all the way up through Alberta, went from the Jasper area up into Banff. Then we went all the way up into the Northwest Territories. We were there for three months, and we were my grandfather had a sixty five Buick Wildcat at the time, and I was always riding in the back seat. We went all the way up into the Northwest territories. Then we went further west and we came back down the British Columbia, the east side of British Columbia, right close to the Alberta border, and then we went all the way back down and cut back to the west again and went north and we went all the way up into the Yukon territories. We were between I think it was Austin City and Beaver Creek, and we were fishing a river there, and every time we would go to one of these locations. My grandfather had grown up in British Columbia. He was from the Ukraine originally, and when he and him and his brother were like one in two years old, his father defected

50:26 left their mother in the Ukraine. He took the two boys and fled to British Columbia. So my grandfather grew up there for the first sixteen years of his life, and he wanted to show me all the things that he experienced as a kid growing up out there. He knew so many native people. Every time we would go somewheres to take another fishing trip, take me to a different river to go fish. He would leave the keys to his sixty five Buick Wildcat, and the man would give us like four or five horses three to ride, and then couple the packed gear and we would go for a week and stay on a river in different locations.

51:24 All throughout this area, I spent time around Lillouette. I didn't realize at the time that this happened to me in Jasper Park, that I had this ability to be able to mind speak with these beings. But when I got to the Yukon, we were camping again on the river, and you don't camp right on the river because it's too much noise from the water to hear any approaching grizzly bears or anything like that. We're just sleeping on bedrolls on the ground. We didn't have no tent or anything like that, but you had a fire going at night, and the first night that we were there, I heard some whoops and some wood knocks coming from the other side of the I mean, this was a big river that we were on. You couldn't wade across this one.

52:35 You wouldn't want to go swimming in it. It was that big of a river. We were on the Canadian side of it and on the opposite side was Alaska. So while we were there, we had the horses tethered. We had a rope tethered between two trees, and we had the reins tied to that rope. On the second night we were there, we came under attack about I think it was probably close to midnight where these this group there. I guess you call them clans because they running in like a family group they call it. I guess they call themselves clans. And they started throwing rocks and throwing trees, small trees at us, And so in my mind, I'm trying to talk to them, and I can't get through to the ones that are doing this attack.

53:51 But the one that I had to encounter with in Jasper Park was picking up my iron speak and he showed up through a portal there in the Yukon and he went and had a parlay with the had one from the clan that was throwing the things at us, And when he came back and talked to me, he told me that it's under control. You guys are safe, but you have to leave this area now. So we went to leave, and my grandfather and grandmother were picking everything up and packing them into the pack horses. We tried to untie the reins from the horses. They had been spooped so badly and were jerking on their reins that the knots got so tight. We had to cut the reins with knife because we couldn't get or or you would have had all three horses tied together with this rope, you know. So we got that all set and we started leading the horses out. And this is like one o'clock in the morning now, and trying to maneuver through mountainous areas is not the thing you want to be doing. And I'm only eleven years old at

55:26 the time. I asked him, why did you help me when I was in the river freezing? The first time I saw him, I asked him, why did you help me? And he said because you're worthy, And at eleven years old, I didn't know what he meant by your worthy and I was thinking, well, was it because he seen me swim in this river that he's never seen a person do that before, or was it that I was praying to Jesus to not let me get eaten by the bear. But then I found out when we were in the Ukraine that that's what his name for me was. That's just what he called me, like a name. So we packed up. He went back to Alberta through a portal.

56:28 We packed up the horses and let him out, went back and gave the guy back his horses and his equipment. My grandfather had to replace the reins that we had to cut, give him money for that. We left there and we went south again along the coastal BC, the west side of BC, went down to Jasper or Vancouver. We went to vancouverover Island, went to Victoria on Vancouver Island, and my grandfather, me and my grandmother were walking a trail that goes along through the middle part of the island.

57:18 The further to the coasts that you get, the closer to either coast you get the I mean, it becomes unnavitable on foot. But in the middle part of it there was areas where you could you walk fairly easy through. We were heading for a river that my grandfather wanted to fish. It was a good Steelhead river. And as we were walking along, I got mine spoke to again by a different plan of these things, and they told me that not to keep going because there's danger ahead, to turn around and go back. And I didn't want to tell my grandparents at the time that these things are talking to me and telling me what to do, so I just made up a thing. I said, you know what, I'm really hungry. Can we go get something to eat? And I'm kind of cold and hungry. And I got my grandparents to turn around and take me back to Victoria on Vancouver Island. But that's I mean, that's three times in nineteen sixty seven that I had encounters with them.

58:47 That is intense. I feel like we could. I feel like there might even be more to this, but. There is there is. Yeah, absolutely, would you be able to reach out to me through my email? I feel that it would be cool if we could have like a follow up. Interview because I also had encounters in Ohio, Okay. I had an encounter in Georgia, one in Florida, and one here in Michigan.

59:27 Mackerel. I believe that. I don't know if you've ever heard of the term being tagged. Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely well. I believe that that's what happened to me on the river on that first encounter. When he asked me why I wasn't getting up if I was okay, and I told him I was too cold. I could feel it's hard to describe, kind of like a magnetic or electrical type of stimulation in the back part of my head.

1:00:12 Absolutely yeah, through my body that I think he was warming me up. Through infrasound, intrasound or something like that. I believe that he kind of like saved my life that day on that river. But I don't know if he did this on his own validity or whether the Savior, Jesus Christ asked him to do it for him following what Jesus wanted him to do. I don't know. In early nineteen eighties, I went to Cleveland, Ohio to become a bricklayer. My uncle he was a general contractor in Willoughby, Ohio, and Salt Fork State Park is just northeast of outside of Cleveland, near Willoughby, and I had an encounter there where I saw one of these things. And then in nineteen eighty three, I was down in Georgia working on a high rise on the Chattahoochee River and I met this marine guy, a fresh out of the Marine Corps. He was from Michigan.

1:01:45 I was from Michigan. So we hung out a little bit, and one Saturday we went to Kennesaw Mountain in Georgia. It's a little north I believe, northwest, a little bit of Atlanta. And we were in the parking lot drinking beer and he smoked cigarettes. I didn't smoke. And he said, you know, I could beat you in a foot race up that mountain. And I said, yeah, not on your best day, you couldn't. And so we took off for a foot race and I made it up to the top of that mountain, and he was probably only a quarter of the way up from the bottom by the time I made the top. So I was up there just catching my breath and trying to rest, and here was a female subsquatch doing the tree peeping where she would lean out and look at me, and then when I would look back at her, she would duck back behind the true So I did the mind speak thing with her. But the thing is a female like that is never going to be alone. There's always going to be a big male nearby as a protector for her. Yeah.

1:03:20 Absolutely, you don't see them by themselves from what I've heard. Yeah, No, they are in clans, and there's clans all over because I've experienced them in three different locations in Canada, but I like to hunt different locations and check out new areas. At this point in the interview, Michael lost connection and was unable to continue his account here. A Big for Society art goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot com.

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