Aug. 29, 2024

Sasquatch Summer Fest Encounter Stories from Oakridge, Oregon!

In this episode I talk to SLEiA and Jersey at their campsite about the festival and share some encounters I took personally at my booth. Then, Tobe Johnson rides out on his bike and joins our interview which becomes magical.

In this episode, I also...

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Season 1

In this episode I talk to SLEiA and Jersey at their campsite about the festival and share some encounters I took personally at my booth. Then, Tobe Johnson rides out on his bike and joins our interview which becomes magical.

In this episode, I also share some recorded encounters from around the campground and at my booth from the actual witness themself.

Then, we top it all off with a ten minute preview of this week's MEMBER'S ONLY episode "ENCOUNTERPALOOZA 5"!

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Forward slash the Big for Society, and now let's get

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on with the show. I've got Slaya from Montana originally

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from Washington State. Awesome and Slay's Patreon member, so it

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is awesome to hang out with her. We have also

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Jersey here. Jersey is from Oklahoma. Are you really original?

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I thought you were from.

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From New Jersey, but it's most of my life in Oklahoma.

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I live in Seattle right now. My husband's in the military,

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so we moved around a lot.

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Okay, cool, that's good, and no, I didn't know you

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had Oklahoma background. That's really cool. Let's take a few minutes.

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This is the last day of the festival. It's Sunday morning,

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and we are in Greenwaters Park and there, let's see,

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there's multiple tent setups in back of us where the

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weekend campers I've been hanging out so Slaying Jersey have

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a sweet tent setup and table and chairs, and then

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there's vendors over there and the Amphitheater where the speaking

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has been going on. But say, what are some cool

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things that you experienced during the festival the last few days.

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I really enjoyed walking around and just recognizing people that

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I've never met in person or talked to in person

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and been able to just walk up to them and

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start a conversation or ask them questions that I've always

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wanted to ask, and I had them one on one,

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So there was a lot of time to just talk

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to people without a big crowd. Just seeing all the

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homemade gifts and things that people were selling here that

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was really fun. I think we both Jersey and I've

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both purchased some things. And there's one tent that I

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really loved. They have a bunch of leather raw leather,

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and then they have a bunch of the things that

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you can pound into the leather, like letters and pictures,

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and you can make your own or you can purchase theirs.

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And so that was a fun place to go because

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it was like a do it yourself the speakers every

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day at the Amphitheater. I've learned so much. I've learned

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so much in the last couple days that I didn't

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know and so that made it really fun and interesting.

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And everybody's just chill and easy to hang out with.

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That's awesome. Did you have any thoughts of stuff that

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you thought was cool from the festival? Jersey?

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Yes, absolutely, because I'm new to all this, so I

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have learned a whole lot and it's made me a believer.

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And I didn't realize paranormal kind of came into this

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as well, because I've had some paranormal experiences as well.

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But now I really want to go sasquatch hunting because

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of this.

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Yeah, totally. It has been a really eye opening weekend.

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We have a ton of different speakers. You got everyone

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from Cliff Berrickman to Todd Nice. We got Jason Kenzie

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who's a great individual. Chad Datma also from Searching for Sasquatch,

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Gwendolyn Guthrie, Tobe Johnson. I heard most of his and

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that was really fun. Doctor j Robert Alli, we shared

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a bunk bed in the airbnb. He's an incredibly smart individual.

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And Chrissy Sanders was there too, individual that is so

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smart when it comes to Bigfoot, and a lot of

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people might not have heard the name before, and more

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people need to. Yeah, last night, this sounds how you

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happened across the river. That was cool. It was intense,

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like they had speakers out in the forest and there

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was seer sounds. But there's a lot of people having fun,

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also taking pictures, lighting and Jason was making sure people

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could take cool pictures. But just across the river, that's

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the forest of Oakridge, and there are multiple sightings that

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have actually happened over there that I've been talking to

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it to residents about over the last five months. So

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it's a paved path, but like you still have to

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be careful, it's still stuff out there.

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I've always believed my entire life, I've always believed the

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Sasquatch a real just because I've always lived in the

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Pacific Northwest, always heard of people hearing certain things or

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seeing something, and in my heart I felt like they

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they exist, so I don't need proof. But I still

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enjoy hearing everybody else his encounters and research and I'm

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learning so much. And I knew eventually I would meet

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everybody that I follow on Instagram or listen to in podcasts,

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and so this is my first festival and I'm just

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checking off who I've met, and I can't wait for

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the next festival.

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Honestly, absolutely, I mean for first festival. Like they've been

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doing a really good job. I hope they do this again.

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The town seems to be really behind it and super excited,

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as this is byt least an hour outside of Eugene

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the will Lamme Att National Forest. But were you able

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to hear any encounters?

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Todd talked about his encounter, and I know everybody has

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heard that. Tob talked about their happenings at album Lab,

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his in person experiences, and I think, yeah, when she

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talked about the cryptid that she saw the dog man,

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which freaked me out that I think they probably all

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shared their encounters. Cliff did touch on the thermal cam,

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that's right, So I think they all touched on it.

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I didn't hear all the speakers. I didn't get to

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listen to them from beginning to end. But yeah, I

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have been asking people if they've had encounters also so

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I can hear them in person.

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That's awesome. How has the food been here? Can you

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talk about the food selects at the vessel, but what

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have you experienced food wise in Oakridge?

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So I attended the pizza little tent over there and

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we got a pepperoni and that was good. And then

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there was a hot dog vendor over there as well,

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and I got the hot dogs. We saw the shaved ice,

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but we haven't made it over there yet, but today

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we definitely will. But that's all I've experienced. But the

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hot dogs were good, the pizza was great. Check back

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in about the icies thinking about putting some rum in it.

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That's awesome. It's easier for me. There's stuff that I

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want to talk about personally. But I came over one

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to hang out with you guys, but too, like it'll

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be easier to have people present to share while I

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talked about stuff. So what I ended up doing was

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at my booth the map of the area. I went

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to the bike shop and they gave me a really

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detailed map front and backs of two copies, and I

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put it at the booth and had people start to

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mark the area of Oakridge and it's filled up considerably

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and there's been some really interesting things that have come in.

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Yesterday first day wasn't really any locals. Yesterday a ton

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of locals came in and marking spots where they've had

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visual sightings. Weird things happen in the I think it's

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called Middle Fork Ranger District. That is what the map says.

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But it's some weird things that I want to share

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with you guys. Just there's so one thing as a

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gentleman and the town came in. We're going to talk

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more later, but he's been into this and track casting

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since the nineties and he used to work at the

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Chevron in town. In This Native American gentleman would come

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in annually once to the gas station to get to

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gas up in his way through out to Summit Lake,

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and he had a big foot sticker on his car,

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and so this gentleman that was pumping gas for him

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would be like, hey, so have you seen the big guy?

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Just being funny and nice, and the Native American gentleman

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would be like, actually, we head out to Summit Lake

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as a group to summon the three Sasquatch. And that

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brought up a lot of questions for me that this

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individual did not have the answers to just because he

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was pumping gas and it was a very quick interaction.

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But he had this interaction multiple times over the years,

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and there was one year in particular where he asked, Hey,

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how's the summoning of the Sasquatch going? And he said,

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this year not so good because they were pretty aggressive.

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And so it's one of those stories where you don't

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hear all the details, but you're like, what's happening over there?

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A lot of stuff on a lot of times on

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the podcast, people calling about Spirit Lake, and I found

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out that area actually has more than sasquatch sightings going on.

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It's over by Waldoll Wilderness and every night about dusky

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way it gets dark, all the sticks go to the

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middle of the lake and then start they make a

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circle and they start going around in a circle. And

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I've had multiple hunters from the area that I've been

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hunting there in that area or hiking that can confirm that, yes,

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they've seen this happen. So now we've got things like

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not even sasquatch, but also high strangest things. And I've

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made a joke a few times. It's kind of has

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a gravity falls feeling to it. But there's an anonymous

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report that I want to share with you, you both

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that has really it's very strange. There's an individual that

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was hanging around the booth and his friend had pretty

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much forced him to come over. There's been a lot

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of that, and so he was just not really saying

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a lot, and he said that there's an area in

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the Oakridge area, out in the woods in the service roads.

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There's a lake out there where his buddy was hunting

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elk out there and looking through his scope high power rifle,

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and he saw a family of sasquatch. The sasquatch noticed

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him pointing a gun at them with a scope, and

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they got out of there. It's not too long afterwards,

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he noticed loud noises coming towards him through the tree

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line on either side of where he was at right.

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So at that point he got very freaked out and

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he immediately left using his truck. He left his gun there,

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his high powered rifle there, his backpack, everything went back

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to town. Told his buddies, what's going on. I need

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help get your guns. We're going back. I need to

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get my gun. It was worth a lot of money.

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When they get back to the area, the gun is

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on the ground. The scope looks like a huge hand

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has gone around it and just crushed it in a

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way so that the glass on either side of the

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scope is popped out and broken. The rifle barrel is bent, yeah,

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in a way, and it's almost like so the rifle

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barrel was bent, and then it feels like, from what

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he said, it was like something tried to discharge it

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and the rest of the gun just kind of blew

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apart because the rifle was bent, and then they it

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just exploded. But the thing is is that there was

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blood on certain parts of the gun, right, so they

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He's like, I think they hurt themselves. So this individual,

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his buddy took the gun and always backpack was shredded,

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just everything torn apart. So they he takes the gun,

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keeps it in a plastic bag in his house for years.

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He decides somehow he gets a connection with the Smithsonian

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and tells them about what's going on and says, I

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would love to send this to you. For you guys

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to test it, and so they set up a way

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for them to send it in and the gun supposedly

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never makes it there. And if I had heard that

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account by myself, it's one of the most intense accounts

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I've ever heard. And the things is that an individual

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that I had been really involved with over the last

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few days with the festival immediately came over and said,

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did he tell you that all is true? And then

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another individual came over that is involved with the town

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said did that guy talk to you yet? And I

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was said, yeah, I mean I I don't even know

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what his I didn't even ask for his name, and

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he was like, I'm not going to give it, and

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I respect that, but yeah, multiple people Hunter's previous law

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enforcement have verified that, Yeah, that is an actual true story,

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and I want to be I don't know if I

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had believed it unless I had taken it personally, So

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that is I don't do what do you think about?

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What do you think about that?

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I don't think he would have given that encounter unless

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you were here in person, So I'm really glad you're

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traveling now. But also I can only imagine the amount

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of DNA that was left on that gun, especially if

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he sorted it in a bag. And as soon as

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you said they had a contact with the Smithsonian, I

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knew they arrest that story. It was going to end

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up missing.

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And it's just it's a tragedy because if it had

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happened in current day, they could have easily sent it

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off to Darby orcut with North Carolina State and done

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a no cost DNA study. But this was years ago,

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and this is before Darby stepped forward and started that study.

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So it's unfortunate. But the amount of There's a gentleman

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that was camping for the festival way out in the

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woods on service roads. Very cool guy. I believe his

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name is Kent, and he was sharing with me how

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the same day, yesterday, seven oh seven am, he woke

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up and was immediately there knocks around his campsite and

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then the sound of rock clacking and he's like, yeah,

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I was like, what is going on? And then another

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local guy July thirteenth, which is like a week or

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so ago, he was like, I was on mile marker

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forty two driving out of Oakridge on fifty eight and

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I look over and there is there's a guardrail above

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a culvert and there's a sasquatch that just like has

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both his hands on the guardrail and I see his back,

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but he's like holding onto the guardrail and as I

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drive by, he just launches himself up the side of

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the mountain. That was a very interesting encounter. Did I

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tell you about the campers and Diamond Peak Wilderness? Okay,

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there's this guy. There's this guy and his wife who

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were tent camping and they wake up the next morning

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and that their tent had been ripped to shreds while

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they were in it, and the tent wake up well,

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and it gets weirder because they said the tent was

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covered with urine and there's a court of urine on

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the top of the tent, and so he sees it,

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his partner sees it, and they're like immediately like we're

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out here. They were way out in this wilderness area.

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So that was crazy. There's another gentleman who was up

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north of that and he was working at a resort.

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There's an evacuation, so the company asked, can you stay

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with the resort make sure no one loots it. So

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he's there all alone and then he says what he

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and this is not a bigfoot guy, just a local guy.

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He's like, I heard what I can only say sounded

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like an elk bugle that then transitioned into Gibberish language.

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And then later that night, I was trying to go

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to sleep and there was a ground hit that sounded

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like someone took a two thousand pound wrecking ball and

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just smashed it into the ground. And immediately he's like,

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I'm I'm gone, I'm just out of here. Those the

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map is I'm going to take time to really analyze.

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There's probably a good thirty thirty of things over there,

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and people have been coming over and talking, and it's

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really I think every festival I go to from here

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on out, I will be doing that because it really

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allows people from the area you're in to figure out, yeah,

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there's stuff going on in this area and big for

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society who will be right back after these messages. I

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would say a good ninety five percent of the things

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on the map are not like we were saying earlier.

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They're not on BFRO, they're not on any of the websites.

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People in Oakridge just do not talk about their big

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foot encounters unless it's a face to face thing, and

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they I think there's a feeling of trust there. They're

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not going to just call up an organization and be like, yeah,

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we got weird stuff going on. I don't know.

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Yeah, yeah, they probably don't need the Yeah they know

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it's here and it's going to keep going on. They

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probably don't want big crowds.

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Or yeah, Jersey, do you have any thoughts about the

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bigfoot activity you've heard around this area and things like that.

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I mean, it's crazy.

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Pretty much.

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I just I want to experience it, but I don't

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want to be I don't want to be in a

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situation where they're aggressive.

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I just want to I want to hang out with them.

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But it's crazy all these stories that people have. And

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when I was going to bed at night here, knowing

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that these people experience this stuff, I just would listen

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closely out in the woods.

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Just to hear.

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And also what I think is really weird. And I

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don't know if y'all don't think this is weird that

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we're out in the middle of nowhere in nature. Why

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am I not hearing a lot of birds in wildlife?

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That's what's weird to me. Are they that close by?

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I don't know.

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Yeah, that's a good point. There are times like I've

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been able to go in the woods a little bit here,

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and there are times when is gotten extremely quiet to

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the point where I've never experienced it before, and just

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every a lot of witnesses will say that to me,

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and I've experienced it, and it's just like nothing. It's

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just dead quiet to the point where it's like you

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can't hear yourself, like you can hear yourself think, but

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it feels weird to have that kind of silence, and

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you're just like, I don't like this. I want to

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hear a bird. And then you start hearing a bird chirp,

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but it's half a bird chirp, and it's what Dwayne

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and Ronnie would hear, because it was the same area

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that Dwayne and Ronnie were and we started hearing that

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chirp and yeah, have you talked about your tongue? I haven't.

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I don't think I have. Yeah. So Dwayne and Ronnie

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took me up to their spot from when I interviewed them,

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and it was really interesting. There was a group that

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went up the day before and had an actual visual

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on the side of the meadow where one jumped out

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of the tree like they think it's a younger juvenile

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and then the actually the group was chased out of

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the area. Dwayne tells me that multiple times there a

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large what he says is a large alpha that will

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run out of the woods towards people that are in

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that area. On the way up is a lot of

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service roads that you have to switchbacks, and it takes

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forever to get up there. And they're individuals that actually

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when they were driving up there, they saw a large

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sasquatch just running down the side of the mountain. There's

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a lot that's happened in the last few days. There

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was a group that went out just looking for moss

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and there was a sighting of three individuals and individuals

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sasquatch in the area and it was a thing where

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they were just looking for moss. Of course, they didn't

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have the equipment set up to record, and that's usually

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how it works, right. But so Dwayne and Ronnie want

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to take me to the area. They're like, you need

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to experience this since you have talked to us and

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you need to see what's going on. So we go

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out them with Dwayne, Ronnie myself. They take us to

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an area. Take me to an area outside fifty yards

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outside of the meadow area where they had been camping,

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and they're like, let's go into the woods. I want

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to show you the area where this creature usually rushes out.

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And then, okay, this sounds like a really terrible idea,

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that is what I was thinking. I was like, this

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is it? No cell service? Say yeah, that's why we

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have life insurance. We go in there, and Duane is

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such a good individual. We start we just start looking

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around because we're in there. We went in a little

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bit off the road and there was a how tall

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do you think this is? Like a few feet off

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the ground. Two feet off the ground there was a

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twisted off tree like something had gripped it and twisted

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it and broken it, and it's about, I would say,

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the length of your thumb diameter across, so a few inches.

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And I started looking around in there were multiple twist

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broken trees in the same area, like five to six

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and they weren't rubbed on deer or an elk might do,

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so that was really interesting. And they took us over

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to the meadow and I had known there had been

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one on that jumped down in the meadow than the

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day before, so I was like, I'm going to walk

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across the meadow, which I was very apprehensive about in

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the tree line, and I was like, there's probably a

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track over there, or I hope there is. And I

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found like when I go out in Iowa and it

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was me and my kid, like, there is a lot

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of like things where I was like, Eh, I don't know,

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it's probably just because I'm like, I'm here for Bigfoot.

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But what I saw there was a fifteen to sixteen

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inch track with like toes in the exact spot where

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it would have jumped down from the tree. And I

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was like, oh, man, no, the way that it was,

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the material it was in, it would not have been castable.

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We were on a trail on the other side of

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the meadow and it was a trail a steep incline.

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We actually saw a track on the side of that

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incline which is uncastable too, but you could see the

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toes and so there's that. And then we were the

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first ones back. Sorry. The group before the day before

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had left an apple, orange and banana impaled on sticks

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on the side of a pine tree in an area

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where Ronnie had left fruit before. Like the whole the

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cobbler in the tree from the interview, so we checked

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that out. The apple is on the ground untouched. The

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orange that was impaled on a stick, the stick had

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been broken off and it was on the ground uneaten,

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and the banana was taken off the tree and the

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peel was on the ground and so it was appealed banana.

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Something had peeled it and eaten the banana inside, which

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to me just really freaked me out. And there were

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for a few days after that. I'm still trying to

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work through it. And it's like for something to peel

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that has to have hands and fingers and thumb and

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like what you know, I've been talking to people about

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Bigfoot for years, but like when I started experiencing this

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in real life out in Oregon, it's like this is

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a different this. Now I'm involved with things and it's

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very it's wild. Because right after that we had we

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were coming starting to come back to try to help

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put up tents for the festival. So I had my

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recording stuff away, and then Ronnie was like, I want

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to play another song for them, because that's how he

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connects to them up there as he takes his guitar

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and he plays he's really good, and so he's starting

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to play his guitar, and a minute into it, we

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hear this like loud roar from the woods, and it

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was that that messed me up, like all the blood

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from my head rushed down fell into my feet. And

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I only heard half the roar because when the blood

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rushed down my head, my ears turned off, which is weird,

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but it happened. I only heard half of it. I

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looked over at Dwayne, and Dwayne was like pale, pale face,

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and he's like, dude, it's happening again. And I was like,

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oh man, this is and so I was like wow, man,

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like where I was feeling guilty because we need to

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help and Bigfoot was it was getting weird, and I

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was like, well, maybe it's time to go because I

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was just like fight or flight and then Ronnie's like, nope,

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they need one more Beatles song. So a minute into it,

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after Ronnie starts playing, we hear a roar from the

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woods that transitions into a scream, and I looked out

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over to Dwayne and his daughter Denise is there too,

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who was in the interview. She's doing the bird chirp

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mimic sound back and forth to the Sasquatch because whenever

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she's there, stuff goes off too. It's really weird. But

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the scream and at that point we're like, man, it's

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time to go. And so it just like things started

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to turn and we're like, oh man, so that's me

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being able to talk about what happened when not Wednesday,

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but Thursday and the day before that.

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Yeah.

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So I know you've interviewed Ronnie a couple times and

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I have heard where he has gone and played his guitar.

455
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:55.160
Was it the same location?

456
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.839
Sorry, that's a great point. When they took me to

457
00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:02.400
the area, I thought they were just taking me to

458
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.759
certain areas in the woods. They and they made sure

459
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.000
I realized this when we were there. They're like, you realize,

460
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.720
this is the same exact spot where we camped out

461
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.759
and we almost died that night. And when I realized this,

462
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.200
and this is before the vocalizations happened and everything, I

463
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.759
was like, oh no, this is a terrible idea, Like

464
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.680
we're going to die today. And it's a thing where

465
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.240
you know, Jason Kenzie and Chad, his manager, they are

466
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.319
going to stay overnight in a tent and they're going

467
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:35.039
to interview Ronnie and Dwayne in that same area after

468
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:36.839
the festival, and they're going to stay overnight in a tent.

469
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.440
And I'm like, guys, have you heard my interview? And

470
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.759
they're like, now, but we'll get the story. And I'm like, guys,

471
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.880
you need to really be prepared for what is probably

472
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.039
going to happen. They're going to yeah, they're going to

473
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.119
rush up the mountain. They're going to sound like large

474
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:55.279
ravens and coyotes and the You need to be prepared

475
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.400
for the insanity that these guys experienced. So, yeah, that's

476
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.440
a great question. And I realized that halfway through that, Yeah,

477
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.759
this is the same exact area, and it's weird. When

478
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:09.480
it gets quiet out there, it's really intense. So now

479
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:14.160
I have a much better understanding of when someone says

480
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.680
they're in the woods and just things start shutting down

481
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.599
and they start hearing aggressive sounds and what it does

482
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.759
to them physically as a person. Yeah, that's a good question.

483
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.799
Oh, I was kidding, but I said, if they had

484
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.480
told you that was the same spot that he had

485
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.559
spoken about before, would you have actually gone?

486
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.319
I would have.

487
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.039
I just would have been really nervous on the ride.

488
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.559
But it was really cool because they showed me all

489
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.480
the different spots they've had things happen at over the years,

490
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:46.079
and they actually allowed me to record our entire conversation

491
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.319
for about five to six hours. Is there some really

492
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.119
interesting things that will come from that in the future

493
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.559
And we'll see how that is used after I get

494
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:58.279
back home and analyze through everything. But yeah, this whole,

495
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:03.079
this whole experience has been wild, I hope, do you wonder?

496
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.480
But the cool thing about this is there's people just

497
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.359
hanging out in Tob Johnson from the al Moon Lab

498
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.359
and Flash of Beauty has ridden his bike over you

499
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.799
comfortable with talking for the podcast? Top cool? All right?

500
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.400
So how have things been for you guys at the festival?

501
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.440
Tobe, thanks for noticing the bike.

502
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.519
I just bought this awesome bike for forty dollars down

503
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.759
the road as I love riding a bike. I haven't

504
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.519
had one for years. What a perfect way to research too,

505
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.759
as you just roll along those old loggin rows with

506
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:37.039
a GoPro. So for me, this is a homecoming. Jeremiah,

507
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.640
I was born and raised about a half hour down

508
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:45.200
the road. Oakward was like where it all became apparently

509
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.119
real to me as far as witnesses describing the truth

510
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.759
instead of just really cool campfire stories. And so in

511
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:57.359
and around this area here are extraordinary claims that have

512
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.160
extraordinary evidence. And one of those areas is over here

513
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.599
off of Highway nineteen, a section of Desolate Highway that

514
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.960
goes from Highway fifty eight to one twenty six. So

515
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.720
Scucum Creek is there, Hell Hole is there. Then you

516
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.519
have Baboon Creek nearby.

517
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:16.119
So all these.

518
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.640
Areas here is where the connection for sasquatch and the

519
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.759
supernatural was just too profound that I couldn't ignore it.

520
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.759
And so I chased it down from Oak Ridge all

521
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.680
the way to the town of Rainbow.

522
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.599
And did what you did.

523
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:34.880
That was the first thing I did, is I want

524
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.480
to talk to people that's seen it, that nowhere it is,

525
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.079
that have been changed by it. And so I started

526
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.119
to put them in a little local bar called Ike's Pizza,

527
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.720
and once a month we'd do Bigfoot and Beer, and

528
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.119
everyone would show up from all over Highway one twenty

529
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:56.519
six and tell their incredible stories over pepperoni shaped bigfoot

530
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:01.119
pizza and really bad cocainey beer. Yeah, in the little

531
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.200
town of Lieberg, Oregon.

532
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:03.400
Yeah.

533
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.519
And so this is like their first conference here, and

534
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:11.160
it's about downtime because everybody loves the subject matter for

535
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.200
the most part. Priscilla brought up the fact that it

536
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.839
actually strikes anger and a lot of people sometimes when

537
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.559
you bring it up, especially alpha males Hunters in particular.

538
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.400
But I heard an incredible story about it hunter. While

539
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.359
I was here. A gal came up to me. She goes,

540
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.279
my brother's such a skeptic about the subject matter and

541
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.240
makes me feel like I'm just a complete koop. She goes,

542
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.000
he was up the road near where Adam Davies had

543
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.599
his experience in southern Oregon. He has no idea about

544
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.880
the story, and so as he's driving along with his

545
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.359
wife in a remote area there, I believe they were

546
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.799
looking for a house, and he said, hey, turn around,

547
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:52.920
I saw a huge statue of Bigfoot. I want to

548
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.519
take a picture for my sister. And so the wife

549
00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.680
turned around and they didn't see a statue, and the

550
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:01.559
guy said, wait a.

551
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:05.359
Second, big for Society will be right back after these messages.

552
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.759
So he got out of the car, looked all around

553
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.440
the field for this really realistic statue of sasquatch and

554
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.319
it was gone. And so these are kind of really

555
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.160
quick moments, right that change these alpha males lives. And

556
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.359
there are alpha women too, Like I've met plenty of

557
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.160
alpha women just like. They get extremely emotionally angry about

558
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.519
it because it shatters their worldview and they just aren't

559
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:47.920
comfortable with a gray area. And Sasquatch is like primarily

560
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:52.759
a giant gray area of ability of location, a behavior

561
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.799
of culture or origin, and the future. We know nothing

562
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.680
except what they give a little glimpses of telling us.

563
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.960
But personally I see them as a land spirit. So

564
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.759
they're in between the layers of being, not only flesh

565
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.240
and bud, but a spirit being of some kind that

566
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.960
is attached and perfectly. As Sonya Zohar says, they're one

567
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.880
with nature. They're the ultimate nature spirit. They're the green

568
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:26.880
men of old right of like Nordic and English traditions.

569
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.279
You see the relief of the man with the purse lips,

570
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.000
with the foliage around him that dates back to the Celts,

571
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.640
also known as pan and so that is a nature spirit.

572
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:38.720
You go to the Cystine.

573
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.599
Chapel, you see the wild man hiding underneath the crucifix

574
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.519
of Christ of Calvary, and there are two Sasquatch in

575
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.400
the caves and the Sistine Chapel, so all of these

576
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.480
things just I don't know how they look past that

577
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.359
stuff except to say they don't know about it. But

578
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.279
if you do know about it, how do you ignore that.

579
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.759
There's an area that I've gotten a lot of reports

580
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.039
from around here, and I'm curious just because you have

581
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.079
been in this area. We have a ton of bigfoot

582
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.480
things happening in this area, but are there also have

583
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.680
you seen high strangeness related things things like those sticks

584
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.799
in this lake in the Waldo Wilderness area where they're

585
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.799
just starting to move in a circle by themselves. Have

586
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.240
you ever heard anything like that?

587
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.720
So as earlier as I was describing Highway nineteen, there's

588
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.599
what's known as the Box Canyon guard station right off

589
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.200
the side of the road. I think it's closed off

590
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.920
due to wildfires, but if you can get up there,

591
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.559
pasted it as an old logging road that goes up

592
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.880
to a horse camp where you tie off the horses.

593
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.240
And that really was one of the places that changed

594
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.440
me forever. We were out there with some extended experiencers,

595
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:55.000
some Sasquatch contact ees, habituator types actually ron Moorehead's daughter,

596
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.319
Ronda Morehead. Her boyfriend Todd Bailey was sitting in as

597
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.279
jeep with me and his cousin John Bull, both experienced bigfooters,

598
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.719
and we saw what looked like a little headlamp as

599
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.920
the sun was setting, and so the headlamp was on

600
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:11.639
the other side.

601
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:12.280
Of the elkfield.

602
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.239
It glided through the tree line as the sun set.

603
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.239
We had a cannon, a rebel cannon camera with us,

604
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.719
and we got extraordinary photos that evening of what looked

605
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.559
like Christmas lights like we had ear in the amphitheater,

606
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:33.000
filling up the trees, red lights, green lights, blue lights

607
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:35.679
all within like I could throw a frisbee and hit him,

608
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.639
and so to capture photos. It doesn't change anybody's mind really,

609
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.960
just given the fact of where we are with AI

610
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:43.079
and being able.

611
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:43.920
To photoshop stuff.

612
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:48.239
However, it let me know I was chasing after something

613
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:52.039
really incredible that had this connective tissue to it, which

614
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.360
is the paranormal on Bigfoot.

615
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:55.400
Because as those lights.

616
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.920
Came in on us, it was abundantly clear that sasquatch

617
00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:58.400
are nearby.

618
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.400
They threw rocks at the tree.

619
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.880
I had a flash of light spark over the top

620
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.800
of my brim and my baseball hat as a rock

621
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.119
struck the side of my car. And so this is

622
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.440
the connective tissue that keeps happening. One of the stories

623
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.679
that happened at the Almon Lab was never told, and

624
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.119
it was by a bowhunter that is in the Dock

625
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.480
part one, Mark Parker, and he didn't tell what happened

626
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.280
when he came to the al Moonlab. My buddy Daryl

627
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.920
got to know him, and he was totally a flesh

628
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:37.000
and blood guy, totally flesh and blood. Like it's hard

629
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.079
enough for an alpha male bowhunter to see this, let

630
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:41.760
alone to see something crazy.

631
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:43.480
And so he came to the.

632
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.679
Al Moon Lab and by the end of the night

633
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.480
he was a little bit shaken up to the point

634
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.119
of like getting a little bit misty in the eyes

635
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.000
because it was so profound. Left his camp chair, had

636
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.599
a manic episode, and so I was talking him down

637
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.800
as Hill. But what he'd described what happened with Daryl

638
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.079
is as they were looking in the ravine at the

639
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.239
al Moon Lab, they saw a red light about fifty

640
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.199
feet up and he had a fleer monoscope without a

641
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.559
record button, unfortunately, and.

642
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:12.719
So he's watching this light.

643
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.760
What is that, so as it glides through the forest,

644
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.920
only about twenty yards away comes a ten foot tall

645
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.159
sasquatch walking at them. It was so big, so close

646
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.639
that it was obviously super frightening at eleven o'clock at

647
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.320
night in the woods to have a sasquatch come at you,

648
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.840
let alone. What's the connection with this giant red light?

649
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:35.119
Is that a distraction?

650
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.800
Was that it? If you watch flash of Beauty sasquatch

651
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.159
or the lights like the box of yellow light?

652
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.639
Five different witnesses have told me in connection to their event,

653
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.800
are these boxes of yellow light that streak off but

654
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.239
are also sasquatch.

655
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.480
There's been multiple people from the town that have noticed

656
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.000
the name Baboon Creek and they've made why would this

657
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.320
be called Baboon Creek? I never got that. Do you

658
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.719
know any stories about that area that are related to

659
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.480
sasquatch or maybe that could shine a light on why

660
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:11.920
it's called that.

661
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.400
Henry Franzoni wrote the book Valley That not Valley is Skukum.

662
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.480
But I can't remember the name of Henry's first book.

663
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.920
It'll come to me, but he describes place names as

664
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.440
being an important thing, and so Baboon Creek Skukum Creek,

665
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.480
Spirit Lake, Devil Mountain, Booger Road. All these things have

666
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:32.119
a reason for the name. So Baboon Creek. I heard

667
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.679
about it based upon two gold miners that were prospecting,

668
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:38.960
and so they're getting ready to wrap up there. They

669
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:41.519
had a field dredge because it's pretty remote down to

670
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:43.840
get in there, you got to really hike down in there.

671
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.840
From what they said, I've never been. And as they

672
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.559
were packing up their stuff, they had two sasquatch noticing

673
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.360
the pans getting clinked together, if I remember correctly. And

674
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.679
as they're walking up the ridge, one of the guys

675
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.440
know not the sasquatch. The other guy didn't, and he

676
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.800
didn't want to say anything because he's just like super

677
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.320
freaked out, and I think he had noticed weird stuff

678
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.920
throughout the day as their gold mining. And so as

679
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.679
they were leaving, the sasquatch were jumping up the ridge

680
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.559
like tigger at them. And I've heard this time and

681
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.960
time again that they have. Even Wes and Witty describe

682
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.280
almost a trampoline effect that these things have, like jelly legs,

683
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:30.039
like they're just springing around. That just really struck a

684
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.159
chord at me. The fact that they were approaching these

685
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.119
two guys, but they were jumping up the hill without

686
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.199
the use of really any inertia, just picture like Superman

687
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:40.719
or Clark Kent. Oh, this gravity means nothing to me.

688
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.280
And so when we found the knee impressions circa two

689
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.519
thousand and eight, they were in a clay deposit off

690
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:50.079
the side of the road, incredibly fresh right plus or

691
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.400
minus fourteen hundred pounds in weigh. Anomalous hair is attached

692
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.400
to the kneecaps. All those tests done through a Boeing

693
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:02.719
engineer and Cindy Doson from the Olympic Price Regardless, after

694
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.639
Cindy did the analysis on the hair, she goes, did

695
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.360
you look in the trees? And I said, why would

696
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.719
I look in the trees? She goes, when they leave

697
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.840
the impressions their mid spring, she goes, go back and

698
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.079
look in this tree for hair, and we found red

699
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.559
clay and hair about seven feet up on the ridge

700
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.199
of that tree, as though something had sprung from the

701
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.519
clay deposit on the old road and then jumped up

702
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.679
just like the guys described in Babin Creek.

703
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.840
Thank you for providing that background. That's amazing. Have you

704
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.760
yourself gone out into the surrounding woods of Oakridge, and

705
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:41.840
had any encounters yourself gone out on a forest road

706
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.800
and these forty minutes out crazy areas. Has that happened

707
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.880
to you? Yeah? Is that anything that you'd be able

708
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.159
to share?

709
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.679
Lights were the first thing that happened near this Box

710
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:57.679
Canyon guard station. The second thing that happened was the

711
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.320
lights beyond the line. It was an old trail, and

712
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.679
I thought, well, I kind of want to repeat what

713
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.440
Ron did and have a remote camp site that I

714
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:09.519
can get into with my.

715
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.119
Son and a few friends. Yeah.

716
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.159
Ron more ahead of the Sierra sounds. And so I

717
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.239
carried a fifty gallon drum and empty fifty gallon drum

718
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.320
and buried it in the woods with all my camp

719
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.320
supplies water knives, tent tarps, whatever, so I'd never have

720
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:24.760
to hike it.

721
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.039
I only had to do it once. And so we

722
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:28.559
built a giant teepee.

723
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.400
Structure, like a fifteen foot tall teepee, twenty foot tall teepee,

724
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.559
and then we had our little tiny semi fir ring

725
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.639
for the winter, and we knew we'd only have access

726
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.239
to it for a little while, but on a couple occasions,

727
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:44.519
as soon as we would turn off the lights. We

728
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:52.199
would have trees tossed around us. Now everybody describes tree

729
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.920
toss as being something intimidating, But when you're at camp

730
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.239
in the dark and something throwing trees, it's like, well,

731
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:02.039
I love God, I've I worship Jesus right now, please

732
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.880
help me God. No one's an atheist at that moment, right, Yeah,

733
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.800
so we all became saved in a minute, like, oh God,

734
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.679
no matter how big and tough you are, to throw

735
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.760
a tree, or to hear a tree even get pushed

736
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.639
down and hear the full weight of the earth move

737
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.199
the trunk of that tree, and then the slapping of

738
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.199
a giant dug fur and then the thud. Well, there

739
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.760
were no trees that ever fell. There was no trees

740
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.280
that were down. There was no trees to be found

741
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.800
that were uprooted. This is a thing, right and bumping

742
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.480
lake people describe trees getting knocked down. Bob Gimlin last

743
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:42.800
year with Kevin Carney and Sandy Nelson, as he was

744
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.280
leaving camp, a tree fell down. They actually found that tree.

745
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.679
Previous to that, in an area called Twilight Zone, they

746
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.239
heard a giant, huge dug fur get drugged up the

747
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.880
road by hand. There was no tree to be found,

748
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.679
no scrape on the logging road. Graves researcher from Anachi

749
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:05.679
has a recording of what must be I don't know,

750
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.559
one hundred and fifty foot tall old growth falling through

751
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.480
the Wenatchie forest. There's no tree that he ever found.

752
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:20.199
These earth sounds like I tried to tell people as

753
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.360
much as I can about these really weird sounds and

754
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.920
do it in a way they can understand, especially like

755
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:26.840
the new people that are.

756
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:27.480
Getting into it.

757
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.920
But sounds like that are hard to get over. They

758
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.599
have no explanation. It's obviously like an intimidation thing. We

759
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.239
just were up in the Macaw Reservation in Nia Bay

760
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.760
with Kevin Karney and Sandy Nelson and a Macaw elder

761
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.119
and his wife.

762
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.079
This was two weeks ago.

763
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.760
Now they've been on this property for ten years and

764
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.239
they have activity. But when we walked out of the woods,

765
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.119
it sounded like someone picked up a frigidaire, like a

766
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:03.800
giant old frigidaire refrigerator and hucked it through the trees.

767
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.760
And this was like twelve o'clock in the afternoon. It

768
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.119
waited for us to walk out of the tree line

769
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.760
to get maybe a safe distance, and they said they

770
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.039
hadn't ever heard anything like that in ten years, and

771
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:18.519
they have all this stuff happen. So would we have

772
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.159
gone back into the Mosquitoy woods and found a tree. Maybe,

773
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.199
but sometimes you don't and you should.

774
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.320
Told it's been a pleasure being able to chat with

775
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.519
you again. I'd our first interview is one of my favorites,

776
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.320
but I do want to make sure before we head out.

777
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.480
How have things been here for the Flash of Beauty crew,

778
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.159
and are there so maybe interviews you guys have been

779
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:43.760
able to do so that we can expect to see

780
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.800
in the future. Any teasers about that?

781
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:47.440
So sure?

782
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:51.159
Yeah, we got two interviews. One I guess was really spectacular.

783
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.360
We interviewed Jerry Hine. If you haven't had a chance

784
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.199
to meet the living Jack Sparrow of California, which is

785
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.880
Jerry Hine, go see him over in the Green Tent.

786
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.760
So they got two extra interviews. But someone showed up

787
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:03.639
from Flash of Beauty.

788
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:04.079
Jack.

789
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:06.840
Jack's the one that saw the white deer shape shift.

790
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.199
I never met Jack, and Jack's to me a rock star.

791
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:11.480
He's total.

792
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.000
He has nothing to do with the community, and I'm

793
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.960
like begging him, Please, Jack, come to a conference with me,

794
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.760
get on stage and tell your story because he's so cool.

795
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:22.480
So I got to meet him.

796
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.840
But so next month we're going into the Voice of

797
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.480
the Wilderness for seven days. And I've never been up

798
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.559
to the Sierras ever, let alone Ron's old camp, and

799
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.599
I've never ridden a horse. So this is going to

800
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:41.239
be like really funny on camera for people, and we're

801
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.039
going to talk to people that never gone on the

802
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.440
record about what really happened up there beyond what Ron knows.

803
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.840
And so it's a very multi layered story. It's probably

804
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.719
the most important Bigfoot story never told. And the way

805
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.960
Brett shoots, it's going to be spectacular to watch because

806
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:03.280
the way he shoots. It's twenty twenty five Flash of Beauty,

807
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:04.679
Voice in the Wilders Man.

808
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.119
Thank you for that toad real quick? How can if

809
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.880
people want to reach out to you or make sure

810
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.519
that they can check out Flash of Beauty, are there

811
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.559
any places that they should be aware of where to go?

812
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.400
So our next function is going to be something that

813
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.119
we call the Olympic Strange Days. It's a thirty I

814
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.440
think there's thirty people coming. That's sold out on two days,

815
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.679
not many people, So that's September twenty sixth through twenty

816
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.920
ninth in the Olympic Peninsula. We'll have doctor Simeon Hine

817
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.599
of Dark Matter Monsters teaching remote viewing. This is a

818
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.760
super squatchy area we're going to, Like my girlfriend was

819
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.239
hit in the face with a light from a UFO

820
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.559
in this area, and so Jill and Brett are going

821
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.519
to be there, Mike's going to be there, Rich Drama,

822
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.519
Barb Shoop, myself, maybe a guy from Skinwalker Ranch that

823
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.800
works with Flear that lives in town, and then maybe

824
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:58.760
a guy from blind Frog Ranch is going to pop

825
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.639
in Ryan's skin. That's what we got going and look

826
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.920
forward to hanging out with you again, dude, and maybe

827
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:06.760
we'll have something happen.

828
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.079
Thank you to Pleasure to have you bike over to

829
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:14.280
the campsite and and chat with us. Thank you so

830
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:24.559
much and have fun. And thank you to Slaya in

831
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.679
Jersey for letting me invade your campsite and do a podcast.

832
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:33.639
It's our pleasures.

833
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.559
Special thank you to Slaya in Jersey for allowing me

834
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.400
to hang out with them at their campsite during the

835
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.320
Sasquatch Summer Fest. And also special thank you to Toab

836
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.559
Johnson for biking over on his new bike and hanging

837
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.599
out with us for a little bit. Big for Society

838
00:46:54.599 --> 00:47:15.559
will be right back after these messages. Up next is

839
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.199
another campground interview, one of the early mornings with someone

840
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.039
whose voice you may have heard before, but special thank

841
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.920
you to Josh for allowing me to interview him about

842
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:31.679
what he experienced that weekend. It is currently recording. All right, guys,

843
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.800
you've probably heard Josh before in the Hatcher pass Alaska episode.

844
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.559
And then I talked to him about his things that

845
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.360
have happened just south of Portland. He is actually here

846
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.719
at the Sasquatch Summerfest festival. There's this prize to meet him.

847
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.320
When I heard his voice, I immediately knew who he was.

848
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.280
But he wants to share a few things that have

849
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.920
happened recently. Josh, how's it going this morning? Oh?

850
00:47:56.039 --> 00:48:00.199
It's both terrifying and wonderful. I would say that much.

851
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:03.480
So we let's set the scene where we are. You

852
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:07.960
are camping out here over by the river, which is beautiful.

853
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.199
There's a bridge where you can walk across the river.

854
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:15.760
There's actually I mean it's a quite fast, fast flowing one.

855
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.320
You walk across the bridge, there's beautiful moss covered trees,

856
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.559
and you've got a great tent here, small, one person

857
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.079
it looks like, but it's a special tent. Correct you

858
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.440
were mentioning that it's actually a tent that we may

859
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:27.760
have heard mentioned before.

860
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.239
It was actually the tint I used in Hatcher and

861
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:36.039
Montana Creek when I had the encounters along the roadside,

862
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:42.760
and I usually take it hunting with me. And the

863
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.599
thing about the tent is real tight, real tight, and

864
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.559
if something's coming up to sniff you or say anything

865
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:51.800
at all, you're going to hear it, and it's gonna

866
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.119
be real up close and personal.

867
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:56.760
I'm I'm looking at it. I imagine if I was

868
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.000
in there by myself. There's not a lot of room.

869
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.920
And it does add a lot to the story to

870
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.719
know that if there's something on the other side, it

871
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:05.960
is extremely close to you.

872
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:11.800
Yeah, extremely like inches away from your face. And I

873
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.199
look around at the other tense. There is that false

874
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:18.239
sense of security in like a bigger, like three person

875
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.840
tent or a six person tent where it just looks bigger,

876
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.199
and so whatever animal might be coming up to you,

877
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.719
be a squad or bear, whatever, they're not gonna be

878
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.199
as like close to your face. But in this one,

879
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.880
it's like a coffin. It's nice, it can get into

880
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.760
tight spots, but it's just very up close and personal.

881
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:41.800
If something figures out where you are and it wants

882
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:45.840
to just check you out, and it's been an intense

883
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:46.480
at times.

884
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.800
I didn't want to mention that myself, but I agree

885
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.159
with you. It probably does have the feeling of almost

886
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.880
being in like a mummy sleeping bag of coffin, or

887
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.480
even a maybe a sarcophagus. It's yes, it's very close quarters.

888
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:02.079
But so you said that even around this area, there

889
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.039
may have been some things you've noticed.

890
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.519
Yeah. When I first got here, I asked around from

891
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.639
some of the locals, and I checked out across the bridge.

892
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:19.360
I walked across the bridge and I just like slowly

893
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.840
walked and just kept my ears open like a hunter,

894
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.760
like a good hunter does, and I'm just like listening

895
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.840
to the deep brush. I'm like, I got my feelers out,

896
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.679
and I'm just like walking along. And then I hear

897
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:38.000
little footsteps, like bounding footsteps, and about two different pairs,

898
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:40.320
So then I knew that they were in there. So

899
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.159
I turned around and on the other side of the

900
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.800
bridge there's this rock out cropping. I went out and

901
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.840
stood on top of the rock and just let them

902
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.920
see me. And what happened was the two sets were coming.

903
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.920
One was coming up from up higher on the ridge

904
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:58.280
and the one was coming directly to my left hand side,

905
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.920
and they were closing in. And then another one was

906
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.119
up in the cliff side way up high, coming at me.

907
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.760
And I just stood there just for about two minutes,

908
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.119
just to let them see me. And that night the

909
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.800
festival went on most of the day, and that night

910
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.719
last night they as the movie. They had a movie playing,

911
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.880
and I got real tired, so I decided to come

912
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.519
back to my tent to put things away before it

913
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:30.719
got too dark. And in my truck and I've set

914
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.039
up my sleeping bag and everything, and I get inside

915
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.440
and I'm just laying there listening because I'm always listening,

916
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.880
and I hear the deep thud of a big pair

917
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:47.159
of feet, like thud approaching in the trail just behind

918
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.280
me that like hugs the river the river bank, and

919
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:56.079
it stops at my tent and then it and I

920
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.800
start hearing it like move through the grass. I don't

921
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.840
know if it's found a bug or if it's just

922
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.119
coming to check me out directly. So then it gets

923
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.880
close and I can hear it, probably like maybe it's

924
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.480
five or six feet from my tent, and I can

925
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.960
hear it just give a and then like it starts

926
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.440
milling around and like I hear it going back and forth,

927
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.599
and I finally decide I don't I can't sleep with

928
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.599
this going on right next to my tent. I get out,

929
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:30.679
I go immediately go to my truck and I sit

930
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.920
in the truck and I have a blanket. I'm ready

931
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:35.239
to sleep in the truck.

932
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.159
Because real quick, sar, can you explain how far away

933
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:39.239
your truck is from the tent?

934
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:44.199
Oh, it's about thirty feet. And I get get to

935
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:48.199
go through the past the other tents to my truck.

936
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.920
I get into the truck and I sit down, and

937
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.800
for after about fifteen seconds of sitting in my truck,

938
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:01.119
I look up on the ridge line in the darkness,

939
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:03.119
because the sun had completely gone down and it was

940
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.760
extremely dark, I saw a pair of glowing eyes rip

941
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.000
across the ridge line through the trees and a straight line.

942
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.280
I would I would say, within like one hundred feet

943
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:19.360
in about two and a half seconds. Yeah, And then

944
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:28.000
then uh third, then I then I see it. I

945
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.760
get out, I see a couple of campers going down

946
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.920
to their tent, and I tell them, hey, I just

947
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.320
saw some pair of eyes go up there, pass up

948
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.800
over on the ridge line, just to let them know

949
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.760
so they're not at least give them a little tell

950
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.039
them what's going on, because I'm like just standing out

951
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.000
there staring at their tent. So I didn't want to

952
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.800
be a creeper, but you know the feeling where you're

953
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.199
just like something innocen's happening, but it looks bad. But

954
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.800
I let them know. And I get back in the

955
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.719
in my truck and I just start trying to take

956
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.679
pictures and I'm looking around. All of a sudden, I

957
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:08.920
see another pair of eyes dart from along the bank

958
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:12.639
to their tent, that the people that I just talked to.

959
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.679
And it stopped, and then I can't see it, but

960
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:20.960
I can hear something moving through the brush working its

961
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:25.880
way around to the backside my truck. And then like

962
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.039
maybe a few seconds later, the back corner of my

963
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.880
truck just like drops. Somebody had just jumped on the

964
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.840
bumper or something, and the whole truck shook. And then

965
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.159
I put the phone down and I just put the

966
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:47.519
blanket on, laid down, and I could hear a hand

967
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:52.280
put its digits right on top of my truck. Here

968
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:58.639
it pressed down and then it just disappeared. And two

969
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:03.719
policemen actually came walking pass right at that moment. Really yeah,

970
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:08.000
it just and they were like either patrolling the campground

971
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:10.800
or whatever, but they happened to just like pass by

972
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.119
when that happened, And like then I didn't have any

973
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.440
more problems for the night, but I was definitely not

974
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.440
sleeping great. I was like like a menagerie of nightmares

975
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:21.840
all night long.

976
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.840
Absolutely, that's that is wild to hear that has been

977
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.559
just the first night that's happened. Did you notice did

978
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.039
you look at your truck afterwards and notice like any

979
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.840
like fingerprints or handprints or anything of the out of

980
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:37.320
the ordinary like that around I did.

981
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.039
I did notice that since the fires are going here,

982
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.880
there's a lot of ash in the air. And I

983
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.239
did see one handprint, but I can't prove if it

984
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:49.280
wasn't my own, so I'm up in the air about it.

985
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.599
But I didn't see any like real big, like out

986
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.679
of the ordinary prints. And I looked at the top

987
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:56.400
of my roof. I looked all around the truck and

988
00:55:56.440 --> 00:56:00.320
I couldn't find any spots where they had grabbed, thinking

989
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.360
then maybe they grab the liner bit and just like

990
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:05.039
push my truck down.

991
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.440
Absolutely, thank you for sharing that. Do you have any

992
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:10.320
thoughts about how the festival has gone so far?

993
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.480
Just as an attendee, I think Friday Fridays are usually

994
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.679
a little There was like a few people, but in

995
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.280
high spirits. I such a great crowd, so positive, like

996
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.159
just a good positive energy with the people camping here.

997
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.960
Every is so nice. Everybody's willing to chat, and there's

998
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.840
been a lot of stories like passed around. There's just

999
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.199
been a great atmosphere. I think this would probably be

1000
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.800
a good like family activity if you were ever thinking

1001
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:38.039
about it. My experience aside, like if you're not, if

1002
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:39.599
you stay in your lane, you're not going to get

1003
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.920
too much action for the kids. But I think it's

1004
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.599
it is a little exciting to just have the magic

1005
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.800
of like nature is still like alive and well and

1006
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:51.719
like you can experience it if you just go out

1007
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:52.239
and touch it.

1008
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:54.840
I agree, it's such a I mean being in the

1009
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.880
park and being in a group of like minded people,

1010
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:02.960
plus being in such close proximity to just to elaborate

1011
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.559
on what Josh was explaining earlier. We're close to the river.

1012
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.039
There's a bridge that goes across, and if you talk

1013
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:10.920
to people from the town, which I've been doing for

1014
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.920
a few months, most of the sightings in the town

1015
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:18.159
actually happened across that bridge in that forest area. Dwayne

1016
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.519
was telling me. Across that bridge, the wilderness actually comes

1017
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:26.280
right up to the river. So you're looking across that's

1018
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:30.280
the forest wilderness of Oakridge and it is extremely close

1019
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.719
to where this festival is happening. Most people don't realize

1020
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:34.119
that right now, so I.

1021
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.159
Didn't know that. I thought maybe there was going to

1022
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:40.559
be much more campsites down the trail, but it's pretty

1023
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.840
it's looking pretty raw. There's some old growth trees out here, rugged,

1024
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:47.159
but I just had no idea.

1025
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.400
Absolutely, so, not just what Josh has experienced, but for

1026
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.840
years there have been documented sightings in that forest area

1027
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:58.400
just across the bridge, so which is pretty amazing to

1028
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.719
hear that, not just in past years, but current day

1029
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:03.800
as well. But thanks Josh again, it's a pleasure to

1030
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.559
meet you in person and you chat with you for

1031
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.480
a little bit about what you've experienced recently.

1032
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.480
Yeah, the whole reason I came out here is because

1033
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.719
you mentioned this festival existed and I looked it up

1034
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.960
and I was like, oh, this looks great. I got it,

1035
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:21.280
I got I'm coming, I gotta go. And yeah, it's

1036
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.400
been aside from last night, it's been pretty pretty good

1037
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:25.840
event awesome.

1038
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.079
We'll see what happens in the next few days. But

1039
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.159
thanks for chatting, Josh.

1040
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:31.320
Oh yeah, thank you.

1041
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:33.320
What you're about to hear are a few interviews that

1042
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:37.000
I actually did at the booth itself, so you will

1043
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:41.519
hear a lot of background noise, but these are pretty special,

1044
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:48.360
all right. So I've got Veronica here at the Sasquatch Summerfest.

1045
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:51.400
She came up to the booth and she's got some

1046
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.400
very interesting things to share. She said that it's taken

1047
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.639
about twenty years to share that. So Veronica, thank you

1048
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.400
for coming over. Go ahead, Low.

1049
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:04.519
I went hunting and I had a three eight rifle

1050
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.760
in my hands and we went on up Windberry Creek

1051
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:12.760
Road and that's an organ and Windberry Creek it's when. Yeah,

1052
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.400
it's just Winberry Creek area. And we were going hunting

1053
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.519
up there, and we decided we had a big four

1054
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:22.320
wheel drive truck, big one that was lifted and all

1055
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.719
the roads had been chained off, and we went around

1056
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.119
the chain and drove up this one. It looked like

1057
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.280
an abandoned road that nobody had gone up for a

1058
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.960
long time. And we went up there, probably about five

1059
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:37.760
to ten miles. We went way up there, and it

1060
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.360
looked like something out of a story book. It was

1061
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:45.239
this beautiful field, all these flowers, you know, wild flowers

1062
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.760
and stuff. And then right in the tree line, I

1063
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:52.039
hear and I smell something. First I smell something, and

1064
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:56.159
it smelled horrible. It smelled like sweat and dirty, just

1065
00:59:56.199 --> 01:00:02.679
like dirty, sweaty, stinky animal. They kind of sweat and

1066
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.079
if there's even I don't know how to describe it,

1067
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:09.360
but it's not really bad. And then I heard this

1068
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.920
wrestling round and stuff, and I looked forward and there

1069
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.559
was something that must have been at least ten feet tall,

1070
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.440
at least ten feet tall, and I could tell that

1071
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:22.159
only when it stood up and it ran away, and

1072
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.920
it was like from here to right there from me,

1073
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.559
and it screamed bloody murder right in my face. And

1074
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.320
I had a three eight, so you think i'd feel

1075
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.800
pretty comfortable, but I was frozen. I couldn't move. The

1076
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:36.840
people I was with couldn't move. None of us could move,

1077
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.440
And it took us so long just to conceive what

1078
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.039
we were seeing and what was screaming at us. And

1079
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.960
it was not a man. It was not some feral

1080
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.079
drug addicts in the woods acting like he's some kind

1081
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:51.079
of mad man or somebody in a costume. It moved different,

1082
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.559
its mannerisms were different.

1083
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.199
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

1084
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:18.039
The face was real set back. How would you put it?

1085
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:20.679
The forehead was different than like a person, and it

1086
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.760
was like the cheeks or different. I mean, the whole

1087
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.440
face wasn't like a person at all. I mean it

1088
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:29.920
was different shape than like a human face. Nothing. I

1089
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.960
can't even put into words what it is that I saw,

1090
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:34.639
because I still don't know what I saw, but I

1091
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.840
know it was huge and it scared me and I

1092
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:42.800
just couldn't move. And when it ran away, it screamed first,

1093
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.320
and I was like, and then it ran away, and

1094
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:48.440
then when I walked back in the bushes or whatever,

1095
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.079
I saw how crunched everything was. It was huge and

1096
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.960
this thing was huge. I mean it was wide and

1097
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:58.880
it was huge, and I mean it must have, I'd say,

1098
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:02.480
where I stand it just the torso here must have

1099
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:05.840
come up to about here on me easily, if not more. Yeah,

1100
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.360
does that make sense. I'm not good with height for audio.

1101
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:14.079
Let's see. I'm like five seven, maybe right six, something

1102
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:17.840
like that, and it was way I mean I was

1103
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:22.719
looking up at it when it was yeah, I was

1104
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.800
looking at wow. Yeah, And it was enough to scare

1105
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:27.519
the heck out of me. Later I found out there's

1106
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.519
other people that had seen things up there. I had

1107
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:33.480
people with me when this happened, and so it wasn't

1108
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.039
just me that witnessed it. But they didn't talk about

1109
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.320
it for twenty years too. None of us could talk

1110
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.719
about it till this guy came through Eugene asking for

1111
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:44.639
bigfoot stories and we finally talked about it. We had

1112
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.119
told our parents about it years ago, but it took

1113
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.320
five ten years just to tell our parents. So we

1114
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:54.480
were that scared. And that's about it.

1115
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:57.360
So if you're looking at the face, sometimes people can

1116
01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.679
try to categorize it as different things. Would you say,

1117
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:04.960
maybe something that is more manlike, ape like neanderthal, or

1118
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:06.239
just something completely different.

1119
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.679
To me, it looked neanderthal. Honestly. It didn't look like

1120
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.119
a feral man or anything, or like a man with

1121
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.679
a lot of beard. It had more of a divine

1122
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:21.119
chiseled kind of I mean, real, how would you put it? Really,

1123
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:26.119
the facial points of the face were really defined, more

1124
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:29.800
so than with our persons is round. This is more chiseled.

1125
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.840
Look, do you remember any details about the mouth at all?

1126
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:36.320
Gosh, I don't really. I was just scared to death

1127
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.440
and just in shock. I was in shock. But when

1128
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.239
it screamed, I had never heard a scream like that

1129
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.119
in my life. It was a bloody, murder, you're gonna

1130
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.599
die kind of scream, and it scared the heck out

1131
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:46.840
of me.

1132
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:51.519
I appreciate you talking your habit so this is I

1133
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.800
usually do this over the phone, and you're definitely having

1134
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:57.840
a very visceral reaction from your memories right now. And

1135
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:00.239
I appreciate you actually being able to go back to

1136
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.039
that time. And I don't want to. I don't want

1137
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.559
to have you back in that time anymore. Let's get

1138
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:08.480
back to the current time. Good time. So, yeah, it.

1139
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:12.119
Was really just a life changing experience for me, because

1140
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:15.199
you know, I just everything just seemed a little different

1141
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.800
after that. But yeah, I kept it to myself because

1142
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.119
but I appreciate what you guys are doing. So you

1143
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.199
make people like me that have had those experiences feel

1144
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:24.519
like we can come out and talk about it.

1145
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.239
Thank you so much. All right, guys, we got Donna

1146
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.400
and Dave here first, people at the booth that Sasquatch Summerfest,

1147
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.519
and they have an encounter they would like to share.

1148
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.320
So I'm going to go ahead and give it over

1149
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.519
to them. Donna, Dave. Great to meet you today.

1150
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:39.679
Nice to meet you.

1151
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:41.880
And Dave. I can have you move a little bit closer,

1152
01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:46.199
all right, go on ahead, guys, go ahead, you go.

1153
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:50.519
Okay. This was about maybe three years ago or so,

1154
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:54.480
and we were going down Highway thirty four towards the

1155
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:59.199
coast and we went to camp at Horton Ponds and

1156
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.280
there's somewhere near High Pass, Low Pass Road or wherever.

1157
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.480
And they we got the tent ready and everything. I

1158
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.280
had my cats with me. There was my cat with

1159
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.920
little kittens, and we got the tent set up and

1160
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:17.239
we started.

1161
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:21.159
No not then. It wasn't that not raining.

1162
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.079
They were screaming, there was hollering, and it was dark

1163
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.119
and I heard there was a bunch of to me,

1164
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.559
it sounded like a bunch of guys set by a campfire,

1165
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.880
and I don't know, it was just eerie. My cats

1166
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.360
were scared. I finally got brave enough to go outside

1167
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.000
and get my put my black cat in the car.

1168
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:44.199
He went under the car seat and stayed there until

1169
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:47.480
we were the next day and miles away from there.

1170
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:52.280
They were just freaking out, and Dave kept looking and thinking.

1171
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.000
He goes, he goes, no, I don't think it's a

1172
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:56.679
group of me, and I don't think it's guy. I

1173
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.639
don't think it's people. And I go, what kind of

1174
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:03.599
ann mom would be doing that? And he just listened

1175
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:05.880
and listened, and then we went outside and he stood

1176
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:07.880
there and all of a sudden he let off this

1177
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:10.880
really loud noise. Say what you did?

1178
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:12.280
Look at you like that?

1179
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.400
And all of a sudden it sound. We just started

1180
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.000
running for the tent because it sounded like someone was

1181
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:22.280
coming or something. And then it went who like that

1182
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:28.000
and landed right outside the tent and didn't say anything.

1183
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.280
Hold on, So Dave just said, he beat you guys

1184
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:34.000
to the tent, yeah or something.

1185
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:35.960
He beat us to the tent. And I don't know.

1186
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:42.280
I thought I heard it go land outside by the

1187
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.360
tent or something, just there on a rock or something.

1188
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.119
We went out and looked for Prince and didn't find anything.

1189
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:51.639
And I just couldn't screeched.

1190
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:51.800
Still.

1191
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:53.760
I never heard nothing screeched all out in my life.

1192
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:55.880
Bid g norly growl.

1193
01:06:55.679 --> 01:07:00.360
Behind it the sound he made for him though he

1194
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.320
didn't like that.

1195
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:03.760
He didn't.

1196
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:04.960
He wasn't a fan of the Beatles.

1197
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:09.840
One thing, we go back there.

1198
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:13.360
Have you heard of other things happening in the same area,

1199
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:15.199
guys some.

1200
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.320
Yeah, I don't know. That's the only thing I know about.

1201
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:22.920
Oh well, that's that's something different I know up to

1202
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:23.840
you guys.

1203
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:25.599
That's that's huge.

1204
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:27.719
That is out Blue River.

1205
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:31.199
No, it wasn't there. I was coming back from the

1206
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:35.239
planet falls and we started the salt Water waterfall, all right,

1207
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.000
talk Creek waterfall. And then I took a picture of him.

1208
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:40.480
And then when I got home in the friend of mine.

1209
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:40.760
Blew it up.

1210
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.559
You can see half of the sasquatch in his picture

1211
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.079
blowing up.

1212
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:46.519
Really, yeah, really?

1213
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:47.800
How tall?

1214
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:49.920
Could you get a feel for how tall they were

1215
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:50.280
or anything?

1216
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:53.960
Different different sizes? And one was standing right down by

1217
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.519
the bottom of the waterfall, nig old Beard, and I

1218
01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:58.159
could't see him up there when I took a picture.

1219
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.440
Wow, thank you guys for sharing what you've experienced. The

1220
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:04.559
first people at the Boots, so I appreciate you guys

1221
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:10.960
coming over. Stay tuned for a special sneak peek of

1222
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:17.279
this week's members only episode, Encounter Polluca five, where it's

1223
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:21.159
about an hour of different encounters I recorded for the

1224
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:24.319
members only section. You can get access to the whole

1225
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.720
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1226
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:31.439
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1227
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.079
member over at patreon dot com. Forward Slash the Bigfoot

1228
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:35.239
Society Enjoy.

1229
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:38.800
He wakes me out of a dead sleep, literally grabs

1230
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.000
me by my arm pits and pulls me up, and

1231
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:42.279
he does get outside.

1232
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.079
Now that screaming thing.

1233
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:48.159
Is back, and I'm still like, I'm still by half asleep,

1234
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.880
and I don't think anything. I just I grab of

1235
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:56.079
a flashlight. I'm outside with him. I'm shirtless, in my

1236
01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:58.960
underwear and in my gym shorts. I did think enough

1237
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:00.359
to grab some house shoe.

1238
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.560
But so I go.

1239
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.039
Out and I'm looking around and I'm just like, what,

1240
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:10.560
What's what's going on? Why'd you get me on here?

1241
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.439
And he goes I heard the scream and I said,

1242
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:15.920
what are you talking about? He goes, remember that time back?

1243
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:17.560
He told me I heard that low bellow and we

1244
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:19.119
sat out here all night and wait and we didn't

1245
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:23.359
hear nothing. I'm like, yeah, he goes, it's back. And

1246
01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:25.880
I said, okay, so what do you want to do?

1247
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:27.640
What do you think we should do right now? And

1248
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:32.720
he goes, let's all let's get uh dress, let's all

1249
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:36.399
get scored away, Let's grab some weapons, and let's go

1250
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.319
see if we can find this thing. I'm like, what

1251
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.680
do you what are we gonna Are we gonna hunt it?

1252
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:42.399
Are we gonna hunt it?

1253
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.079
He goes, no, if anything, we're just gonna scare it off.

1254
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.600
And I was like, so what do you think it is?

1255
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.880
He goes, I don't want to admit this, but I

1256
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.920
feel like it might be a sasquatch or a bigfoot.

1257
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.119
And I'm like, okay, if that's what you want to do,

1258
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:00.840
let's get dressed, let's go. So we get dressed, we

1259
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.079
have a side by side and loads it off with

1260
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.199
the trailer. We get it gassed up, have our weapons

1261
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:08.720
just for self defense, go out there, spotlight and just

1262
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:13.359
looking around the distinct thing. I do remember is the

1263
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:18.079
fact that that back of your neck someone's watching you

1264
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:22.920
type feeling where your hair stands up. So that type

1265
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:27.520
of feeling happened whenever we got near where where my

1266
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.159
stand was, where we had moved from the previous location

1267
01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:32.359
like they had the first stand set up, and then

1268
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:34.680
where I'd moved it since I started seeing more deer,

1269
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:37.079
I just left it all there. And after all the

1270
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:38.840
time of waiting and waiting, so we got to the

1271
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.840
new the quote unquote newer spot where my stand was

1272
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:46.760
and looked around looking and I just had this feeling of, man,

1273
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.800
someone is watching me right now. I didn't say nothing,

1274
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.720
but at first I was looking around and something is

1275
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.520
watching me, something is staring me down. I get just

1276
01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:01.560
shining around and looking and he doesn't have the spotlight

1277
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:05.199
that's hooked into the side by side. He has a

1278
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:08.319
big almost magnum Pias style flashlight, one of the long

1279
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:09.760
one takes the big D batteries.

1280
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:11.960
He's shining around and.

1281
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:15.840
He lets out this blood curling scream at the top

1282
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:19.600
of his lungs. Freaked me out, made me drop the spotlight,

1283
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:23.439
which somehow turned it off. And when I looked over

1284
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:24.239
towards him to see.

1285
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:26.800
Why is he screaming? He goes, I saw it. I

1286
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:29.000
saw it. I saw it. And I'm like what.

1287
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.720
I'm like, what, what did you see? He goes the blur,

1288
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:35.720
It's just the blur. I don't I just and I'm like, okay,

1289
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:38.359
calm down, you got to catch yourself.

1290
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.600
Tell me what happened. And he said, I see the blur?

1291
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:44.239
What just seeing on the camera? I was like, what

1292
01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:46.039
did it look like? He goes some type of.

1293
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:52.159
Weird man thing, and I say, okay, it was it

1294
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.159
a guy? Is it a guy running out here? Is

1295
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:59.479
he poaching the deer? And he goes, no, it's not

1296
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:01.319
a guy because he didn't have any clothes on.

1297
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:06.520
So was it a bigfoot? Was it a sasquatch?

1298
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.359
And his hand is shaking, his whole body is shaking,

1299
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.680
but I can remember distinctly his hand that was holding

1300
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.640
the light was shaking so bad. And I looked in

1301
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:20.239
the area where he's seen it. He said he's seen it,

1302
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:23.800
and I don't see anything. I'm looking around and I

1303
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:26.960
don't see anything. And I can't really see quite that

1304
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.279
great with the light in the trees because.

1305
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:29.880
He's shaking so much.

1306
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.079
So I grabbed the light from his hand, make him

1307
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:34.000
sit down the side by side, and I'm just scanning,

1308
01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:37.600
looking over the tree line, looking near where the bushes are,

1309
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:42.319
and I don't see anything. And I'm like, okay, let's

1310
01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:45.000
get you back to the house, to the cabin. Let's

1311
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.079
get you back there and get you calm down, and

1312
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:50.720
let's think about this and see if we need to

1313
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:54.840
call somebody, talk to a park ranger or call a

1314
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.199
game warden and see what they think is going on.

1315
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:01.960
So we get back to the cabin. It's one of

1316
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.840
those I don't know what to say, tight drives. It's

1317
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:08.520
only like a five minute drive to my stand. It's

1318
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.800
only maybe a quarter mile from not even a quarter

1319
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:15.119
mile from the cabin to where I got everything set

1320
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:19.279
up in my spot. We'll we get back to the cabin.

1321
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.840
I help walk him up, send him on the bed.

1322
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:26.000
He's just shaking up really bad, very scared. Is obvious

1323
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.520
that this man has seen something as shook him to

1324
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:33.000
the core. I'm trying to make sense of all this.

1325
01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:36.520
I don't want to believe that we actually or he

1326
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:41.159
actually just seen a sasquatch in an area where I've

1327
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:45.359
never heard any bigfoot stories. But if you think about it,

1328
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:48.600
Why wouldn't that be the perfect spot?

1329
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:50.079
You know what I'm saying.

1330
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:52.920
If there are no stories or you don't really know

1331
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:58.079
of any stories of these creatures in this deep thicket wood,

1332
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.600
with all these trees and all this somewhat on charted

1333
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:05.920
land of national forests and private property small towns, why

1334
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:08.600
wouldn't it be a good spot for them to be

1335
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:12.760
traveling through or for one to be hanging out. So

1336
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:16.920
I try to get some sleep. Obviously, between cat naps,

1337
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.399
I don't get hardly any sleep. Next morning, it's my

1338
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.159
alarm goes off at I think it was five AM

1339
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.359
something like that, like an like a thirty or forty

1340
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:26.359
minutes before daylight.

1341
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:27.680
I get up.

1342
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:29.920
I go wake him up, and he's I'm not going

1343
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:33.199
in the woods. So I say, okay, you want to

1344
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:33.720
stay here.

1345
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:34.479
Fine.

1346
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:39.079
And the crazy thing about it is, whenever I walked

1347
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:43.560
out the door to put my stuff in this side

1348
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.359
of beside, I'm heck with it. I came out here

1349
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:47.720
to hunt. I'm gonna hunt myself. There's not too many

1350
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:51.000
things in the woods that will scare me off. I

1351
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.359
want you to remember that I said that there's not

1352
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:56.640
too many things in this woods that will scare me off.

1353
01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:01.159
So as I'm starting to leave, I hear him lock

1354
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:05.600
the door behind me. That's how terrified he is. So

1355
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:08.880
I'm just okay, whatever, let's go sleep it off.

1356
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:09.439
I don't care.

1357
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:11.840
So I go drive to my stand. I've parked a

1358
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:14.680
side by side some waist back. I go climb up

1359
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:21.359
in my stand and relatively not much activity that first

1360
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:24.920
opening morning. I seen one little dough that had a

1361
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.239
fun whether let her pass. This is about twenty thirty

1362
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.680
min hit a day light. Nothing crazy. I like to

1363
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.239
sleep till about or excuse me, like to stay till

1364
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.359
about nine thirty ten o'clock if I don't see anything.

1365
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:38.840
If I see a lot of deer moving, I'll stay

1366
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.680
till about eleven or twelve. It all just depends on

1367
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:43.840
what I see. So I see if you deer here

1368
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:45.720
and there, I see a couple of small bucks that

1369
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:51.960
are too small to take and sitting here listening to

1370
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:55.880
the birds chirping. Okay, despite this creature being seen, it

1371
01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:01.439
seems like the wildlife is back. Awesome, great, fantastic cool,

1372
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:05.680
and that's virtually it. I get down from my stand,

1373
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:08.479
I get back in the side by side. I go back,

1374
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:11.399
take a quick little nap get something to eat. I'm

1375
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:14.960
going back out for my evening hunt, and I ask him,

1376
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.079
do you want to go with me? He said, like

1377
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:19.520
I said, I'm not going out in those woods. I

1378
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:22.680
will leave with you whenever we go home Sunday night,

1379
01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:25.760
but other than that, I am staying right here.

1380
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:30.680
Okay, fine, I respect that. Go ahead. So this is

1381
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:32.359
the evening hunt of this Saturday.

1382
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:35.960
I go in, I sit, I don't see anything, and

1383
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.520
then about twenty minutes before dark, whenever we like to

1384
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:45.039
call prime time, like whenever it's just about to be dark.

1385
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.960
In my experience, the biggest bucks I've ever shot, the

1386
01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:51.119
most deer I've ever shot, is right after daylight or

1387
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:55.560
right before it gets dark, and I to call it

1388
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.079
primetime for that reason. Twenty minutes so for dark, my

1389
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:04.840
target walks out, and I'm like, holy crap, I don't

1390
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:08.399
even I'm not even remembering about the creature at this point.

1391
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:11.920
That's gone from my mind. As crazy as that sounds,

1392
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:17.199
it's gone. So I see the buck come out, and

1393
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:19.560
I grab my bow and I stand up from my stand.

1394
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:22.439
I get my arrow at loard, have my arrow knocked.

1395
01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:25.000
I get my release knocked on the back of my

1396
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.920
string right, rock and roll, I get it pointed up.

1397
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.760
I'm about to draw back on him, and I hear

1398
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:39.159
what sounds like an elephant come crashing through the brush,

1399
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:43.039
probably ten to fifteen yards behind me.

1400
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.039
And when I hear this, I freeze.

1401
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:47.880
Now.

1402
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:54.640
Initially, in my experience, if there's two bucks in brut

1403
01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:57.640
and if one sees another, and if he's really riled up,

1404
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:01.479
he will tear through helen back to fight this buck.

1405
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:03.600
It's just what deer doing a rut. But it's not

1406
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:06.359
time for the rut yet. So the first couple of seconds,

1407
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:07.680
I'm like, dang, is that a bigger buck?

1408
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:08.479
Joe chased them out.

1409
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.039
Wait a minute, they're not in rut yet. What is

1410
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:13.800
that a big old hog? What is that going on?

1411
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:17.399
And where my dear stand is set up is like

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my back is towards tree line. There's an opening and

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then there's it's almost like a skylight amongst the trees.

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There's a little circle.

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01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:29.960
That's been cut out naturally from the trees, opening with

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01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:31.880
the oak trees and everything else. And that's where I

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01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:33.279
plant on my food plot, my corn.

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So I don't see what's going on, and my hunter's

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01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:38.640
instinct is kicking in. Hey, don't turn quickly.

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01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:41.560
If it's something you're gonna want to take, then leave

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01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:43.960
it be or try to be still with it. So

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01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:46.600
I'm looking, I can't see, but I hear this thing

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01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:48.279
crashing through the forest.

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01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.000
And at this.

1425
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.960
Point, when it's crashing and crashing through, my target buck

1426
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:55.760
runs off and I'm like, dang, there goes my target buck.

1427
01:18:58.119 --> 01:18:59.159
And this thing.

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01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:08.920
Runs out perfectly in the dead center of my food

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01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:10.119
plot and stops.

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in organ

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01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.279
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1449
01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:21.119
you there, and again, thanks for listening.

1450
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:12.439
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

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01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:13.079
our stories.

1452
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:15.960
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's.

1453
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.680
Too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will.

1454
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:21.159
Give them the courage to come out. And now it

1455
01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:24.439
feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks.

1456
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:26.800
I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

1457
01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:28.640
That's all I care about.

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01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:48.079
Please let people know, Please let them know.

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01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:50.039
If you've ever seen one of these.

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01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:53.800
Things, you need you tell, because if you don't, you're

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01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:54.800
shame on you.

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You have shame on you.