Sasquatch Terrors in the Woods: Dewayne's Bigfoot Encounters in Oak Ridge, Oregon

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Society and now let's get on with the

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show. Three two on all right, Big for Society. I've got the

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privilege of talking to Dwayne today.
I need to give a little bit of

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background first before we get into this. So if you've heard my interview with

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Ronnie Roseman, which is about a
year or so ago now, and you

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know it's an episode that's gotten pretty
popular where you know, I'm not leaving

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even if they tear me apart in
the Okrage, Oregon area, And in

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that story that Ronnie shares, there
was the individual, Dwayne. Now,

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what happened is Dwayne actually reached out
to me the other day and he's okay

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with discussing what happened along the years
from his point of view. So this

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is an interview that I never thought
what would happen, but I'm so incredibly

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excited that it is happening. So
Dwayne, how are you doing today,

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sir? Good? Thank you very
much. And yourself. Oh, I'm

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having I'm having a great day.
I'm looking forward to coming out to Oregon

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in about a month, a little
over a month and having a good time

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out there for the Sasquatch Summerfest.
Dwayne, Let's let's get right into it.

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So I'm going to ask you right
off the bat. You know,

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being from that area, what was
the first thing that you remember hearing about

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Bigfoot when you're in that area.
Oh, you know, every once in

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a while somebody would say something about
it, but usually it was pretty quiet.

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You know, people didn't want to
admit to nothing or anything like that.

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But you know, over the years
of just being in the woods itself,

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you know, you hear these noises
and you can't really explain it.

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I mean, you try to write
it off, but you know, just

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more and more builds up over time, and it's until something you know,

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amazing and terrifying happens that you know
it's it's crazy, but you know it's

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like we go out camping and we're
hunting, me and my dad, my

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brother, and we're always in the
woods. I started getting into the high

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lakes, like when I was one, my dad would he made me a

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special life best and he'd packed me
up there with his rubber wrapped up into

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these lakes above that you got to
walk between thirty and seven miles to get

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to. So I've always been in
the woods, but it probably started up

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there with we'd hear knocking and we're
seven miles up in the woods, and

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then all of a sudden you get
knocking and noises and can't ride it off.

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You know, you don't know what
it is, but it's just weird

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builds up. And one time we
went into Devil's Lake. You got to

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hike up over a hump and then
down into a bowl to get in there.

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And we went in there and caught
some brooke trout all day long,

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picked salmon berry's to bring home,
and we were coming out of there and

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my friend he had a bear tag
and he sees his black hair. It's

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kind of skimming through the brush really
fast. So he bails out the truck

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and starts pursuing, and this thing
is moving unbelievably fast. But it gets

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to the end of this thing in
the trees. So there's kind of a

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clearing in a little ledge there,
and the thing just kind of raises up

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and one hands it like you're hopping
a fence and ran off on two legs.

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I'd like, I can't go after
this out there. It just didn't

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look right, But you know,
that still wasn't too terrifying. And then

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once I gave a friend the dog
and it was up on Tire Mountain.

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He was going the back road home
and he got a flat tire up there,

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and the dog got out and it
wouldn't come to him. So I

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had to go up there to get
it and my wife and we're, you

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know, tapping on the hood the
car and haullering for him, and all

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of a sudden, this roaring starts
really loud, and she was getting nervous.

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I was getting nervous because you know, I just kept getting closer and

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closer and closer, and next thing. You know, I got this little

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jack Russell. You know they bark
at everything, I mean everything. It

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was under the seat, crying and
shaking, and my wife was streaming getting

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the car, getting the car now, and this thing was just coming up

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over the ridge. And so she
sped off down this dirt road, round

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the corner, down and around another
corner and pulls over because she can't contain

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herself too well. And then she
says, I don't feel safe. But

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I don't feel safe, and I
mean she was crying the whole time.

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So she took off again, cried
all night at home, and then went

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up and the next morning me and
my nephew and her to go try to

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find the dog. We found the
dog, but right where we pulled over,

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the tracks had come down the hill
from the top where we were,

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and it was like eighteen inches long
or so i'd say seven to nine inches

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wide at the heel, I mean, just massive track. And she stopped

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going in the woods with me,
So nowhere really running around the woods.

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And so I went up here camping
abobocreage where I always go as a kid.

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And I'm up there by myself and
I'm camping, and then my dad

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comes up and then my son he
wants to go hunt, and so he

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comes up and he you know,
breaks out the guitar. He's singing,

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he writes song. He's incredible,
and we're having a good time and we

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hear these noises. I'm like,
do you hear that. It's like monkey

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sounds kind of And my son's friend
he says, no, that that's an

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owl. He said, that's an
owl. I said, no, not

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that, not the owl. Listen. And then they heard that. And

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the next morning they went down into
the swamps and they were hunting down to

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the edge of the water looking for
gear or elk or whatever they were going

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after, and they come across the
bigfoot track down there, and then so

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my son they left the hunting trip. His friend didn't want to do that

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and he went and got some plaster
of Paris. But we're in Okreage,

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Ore Agan. So by the time
he got back, the rain had you

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know, ruined the ability to cast
the track. So my daughter, she

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works at a bar and this guy
named Ronnie comes walking in there and he's

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asking all about bigfoot. You know, a nice guy. But my daughter

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says, you know, my dad
hears these things up here, you might

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want to talk to him. And
that's how I met Ronnie. I went

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down and my daughter introduced me to
him, and he wanted to know so

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I told him all this stuff and
he says, well, I'd like to

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go up there with you, And
so I took him up there. And

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first he's wanting to go down by
the swamps, and I kept trying to

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tell him that it's all is happening
up here, man. But we went

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down there, and this other old
guy that come with him, he's another

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wonderful guy. He lives in Montana
and he's into research and all that.

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So they decided we're gonna spin the
night down there, and we set up

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a bug screen, and you know, cause there's swampy down there, a

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lot of mosquitos, and uh,
we're hearing things and whistles, little whistles,

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I mean, nothing extravagant, but
whistles, and nothing big really happens

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down there. So we pack up
and we're getting out of there, and

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we get these little rocks and stuff
being thrown at us all the way out

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of there. And so we get
to the top and I finally talked ron

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into going up to this other spot
where I camp at. And we get

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up in there and there is all
the old logging unit. There's an old

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road that goes down through there,
and I mean it's old. So we

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walk down in there a little ways
and there's a trail coming across, and

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there's these these small, big foot
tracks, barefooted tracks. You know,

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you could have said they might even
have been a person if they weren't so

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wide, but they were small.
And I said, look at this man,

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and he's checking it out, and
he decides to say, you know

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what, I'm going to town.
I'm gonna go get some bananas and stuff.

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And he starts feeding them and you
know, there he's going to make

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friends with them, and everything's good, and we need to spend the night,

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and so we do, and my
dad he's he was like eighty two

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or so at the time, right
in there, and he goes with us,

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and my dad he went to bed
early, you know, he always

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does, gets up early. And
I talked round as long as I can,

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but I'm just able. Then I
got to get off my feet.

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I can't sit for a long time
because it hurts, so it's like real

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low in my back, so I
can't sit very well. So I go

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laid down, but I'm still talking
to Ronnie and he's telling me this stuff

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that happened in the Sierra Nevadas and
stuff. And he lets out this horrible

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sound, man like what he had
heard right behind his tent. And I

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said, man, that was kind
of intimidating out would have scared me.

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And we're talking and pretty soon he
says, he says, Dwayne, he

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says, are those those monkey sounds
you're talking about? And I said,

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that's them and he said something like, oh no, get ready for the

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coming attraction. But they just kept
coming closer. And this this shoe were

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on is steep on both sides of
it. You to dead end road.

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You just can't make it up it
very well in the daytime, let alone

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at nighttime. And there's all this
noise coming and it just keeps getting close,

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man, closer and closer, and
pretty cern Ronnie comes into tent with

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us, Man, and these things
come up into our camp like in a

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single file group line, and completely
circled our tent up there, and they

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were screaming at us for I'd say
an hour and a half to two hours,

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I mean streaming. They were making
sounds like owls, which goes back

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to where it started, where I
said, not the owl. They were

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sounding like coyotes, and this big
one, he sounded like a raven or

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a crow. He'd make these noises. They had these weird monkey sounds that

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I don't know what gibberish are talking. I don't know what was going on,

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but I was in panic mode.
I'm telling you, panic mode.

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I was just bringing this guy up
there, you know, and all this

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just happened at once. Nothing like
that's ever happened. My poor dad.

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He was praying all night. He
said, I can't believe this has ever

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happened to me. And so this
big one that sounds like the raven,

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he's uh, he's stomp it up
to the tent and you could feel it.

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I mean you could feel their voice
right through your body. And I'll

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talk louder and get back up,
and they all make noise, and all

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make noise, and he stomp up
closer, and I'll talk louder again.

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It was incredibly intense, I mean
intense. You just would never think that

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something like that could ever happen.
Ever, and there it was. So

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when I, you know, heard
Drawnie tell him everything that was going on

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in my name, I just and
how how much everybody was interested in it.

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I I wanted to U weigh in
on that a little bit. There

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was moonlight out, and I was
conscious enough that and and terrified enough that

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I wouldn't even raise up enough to
see my silo weete on the edge of

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the tent. I wanted to give
no clue where where I was at in

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there at all, so I didn't
even look. But by the sound I

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could tell, and they were on
the ground, and they were right next

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to us. It was it was
a little clearing there where I camped,

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and all around it was you know, viny maple and trees, and so

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there was like a little kind of
barrier and then the road and then some

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more trees and then another open field, and so it was no way except

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for sound. But they were close
enough that you couldn't mistake the sound at

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all, that you could tell where
they were coming. You could hear the

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individual voices of these different Ronnie says
about five. I say, probably more

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like a at least bigs. So
society will be right back after these messages.

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Really, yeah, I mean,
we differ very little on it at

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all. He was pretty spot on
tell him from you know what, I

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believe. I just believed there was
more. I don't know. He he's

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like they're gonna be friends or something, and I'm with the other group that

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says, man, I don't think
I ever want to do that again.

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But you know, as it was
horrifying, it was terrifying my dad,

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you know, he's got a little
problems with his memory and when he doesn't

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like talking about it much, but
once in a while he'll say something about

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it. And it was just unbelievable. The whole experience was unbelievable. It

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was more than other creatures. In
fact, you know, when I didn't

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mention when me and my dad went
up there to camp before this had happened,

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we went up and set up a
camp up there, there was this

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big general roar. I mean ruar. I'm thinking bear maybe, but now

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I'm pretty sure it wasn't. My
Dad's like what is that? And I

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roared back. You know, I
was younger than a little bit and he's

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like, what are you doing?
And I'm letting him know I'm here.

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You know what things a younger man
will do. But if I'd only known

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then what I know now, I
probably never would have. And and after

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getting way more experienced with the bears, I learned what they found like real

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well, and it was definitely not
a bear, but I didn't know that

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then, So you know, I
had to move around the mountains. I

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moved. I went to Montana.
I had to hunt up there. We

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the Galla Valley and the bridge or
mountains. It's just it's beautiful, and

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but you have to contend with animals
up there. You know, there's bears,

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grizzlies. And my brother and I
we went up there and we went

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there's a place up there, Highlight
reservoir, and we were catch twenty four

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inch cutthroats out of that lake.
So we're looking around and we'd come over

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this hill and there's this beautiful bond
grizzly bear with a cub and she took

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immediate offense. Now, this bear
crossed probably a football field length at least

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in I'd say maybe three seconds flat. It was on top of us that

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fast, and it abruptly stops kind
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or something, you know, and
it slaps dirt and chunks the ground all

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at us, you know, through
it and her ears folded back and she's

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bouncing on our front legs and just
wolfing up the storm. And that was

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you know, that was panic,
but it didn't bother me too much.

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That was I knew what a bear
was, and I could live with that.

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I knew about bears. We just
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I had a shotgun and on us. We were definitely not too worried.

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I never put a strap on it, because if you have to reach for

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something in those cases, you don't
have any time. So but we backed

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out of there and nothing happened.
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going into the woods. And it
was another occasion did a grizzy come on

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us. My father in laways,
want to videotape a moose, and then

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he flashes over to a bear and
he mentions it. He goes, look

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at that bear. I said,
no, no, no, no,

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that's a cub. That's a cub. Yeah, you know, we had

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to get out of there in a
hurry too, and get up in a

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point. And then I said,
look that's her and she was coming dead

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at us. So you know,
I'm used to wildlife, and in fact,

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the moose scare me more. They
flat all the way across the field,

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can look up at you chewing a
cut of grass or whatever and then

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come at you with a raide.
You would never believe. It's just amazing,

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so kind of. The moose terrified
me a lot more. But this

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thing up here, man, I
was just going to ask you how you

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felt with those large predators over in
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these creatures in Oakridge? Or was
it even more? No, it was

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it was Uh, the other animals
were all less. This thing. I

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can't I've only slept out in the
woods twice since this has happened, and

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I'm still I have a hard time
going up there. When Ronnie said I

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had PSD, he wouldn't lie,
and I try, I want to go,

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and it just gets to me,
you know, I can't run.

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I can't, you know. I'm
hobbling around on a cane, and and

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there's a group of them out there. You know. It's not like one

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bigfoot or or a happy little family. It's like there's a tribe of them

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out there. And I never thought
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I was dumbfounded. And and ron
you know, Ronnie is the next

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day. He's like, huh,
he says, Man, I wonder what

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cost all that I said? You
did? Man, he made that noise,

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man, And within fifteen minutes they
were on their way and they were

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mad. So I don't know what
he said to them. And I hope

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anybody else that just are playing games, you know, and and bowing noises

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out in the woods, that you
know, they might end up getting a

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little bit more than they want someday. Absolutely. So you were in the

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you're in the tent, and you
hear them come up in a circle around

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the tent. What happened the rest
of the night then, well, they

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eventually, you know, started fading
out in the distance. They you know,

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that they were leaving. I don't
know how far they were going,

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but eventually we couldn't hear them anymore. I'm panicking. Nothing like this has

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ever happened, or or the thought
of something like that never happened, you

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know, I was panicking all night. Man. I don't know if ron

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slept. They didn't say nothing.
My dad he started snoring. I stayed

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awake all night. I couldn't even
get up and go pee until in the

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morning when somebody got up to watch
the other way. You know, I

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just didn't. I just didn't feel
safe. But the whole night, I

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was awake all night long. I
laid there just listening for every sound that

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I could hear. Uh, because
it was it was unbelievable. There's no

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way you could have got away.
I felt like they wanted us to get

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out of the tent and run.
But that's just how I felt, you

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know, that they wanted I don't
know. It was. It was a

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devastating story, and uh, I
uh, I'd like to get over that,

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but I still try. In fact, I tried to call round it

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the other day, but my number
isn't work, and I'm gonna have to

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go up to his house. And
I want to go up there and look

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around again. And you know,
more time I spend up there, maybe

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the easier it might get. But
I don't know. I'm open still trying.

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When you were up there in that
area, did you experience anything else

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of the ordinary, any weird sounds
that didn't belong, or see anything that

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was strange. Over the years,
always heard strange sounds. I've never seen

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any orbs. Me and my brother
saw what we thought might be a UFO

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once we was up there with a
friend hunting, and that's you know,

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that's about it, you know,
But I will say that, you know,

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when I was younger, after all
this and hearing things, there was

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a guy that he was talking about
some book. I don't know. He

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was trying to sell a book or
someone wish i'ld have bought it. I

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can't remember the name of it.
It was a long time ago, and

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it was about that area that would
always hunt in and it was the Indian

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you know, you know how a
little things to get started in town.

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There was another time on the bottom
where we were up there. I was

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with my brother in law and another
guy. They were trying to get a

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deer up there and havn't never got
one, so I took him up there.

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And it's steep ground and you have
to work when you get one to

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get it out. The beautiful country
and I had my walten up there.

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The fire going in and I was
just kicked back, you know, resting

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away for the next day, and
this noise of breaking branches and uh,

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you know it's it was just being
tore up, all kinds of crazy noise.

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And my brother in law and the
other guy, Mike, he was

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panicking. So I said, we'll
just shoot around off up in the air,

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and you could hear this thing come
in making all this noise. But

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as soon as they shot, you
heard not one sound at all. The

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rest of the night. We got
out flashlights and looked. We could find

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nothing. But we heard it come
in right close to the camp. And

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that's kind of right underneath of where
we would camp at the top, and

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all this stuff would happen if through
that I'd told Ronnie about, But that's

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probably a I mean, it was
normal. Me and my brother would hike

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up there at twelve years old,
would hike up that trail all the time.

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You know, we'd run up and
down the mountain and up and down

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the river. Nothing weird really happened. I've been up there my whole life,

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even before I could drive. We
would my brother and I would hike

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that trail and go up there,
and we were always always up there,

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always maintime. When something happens,
it sounds like it may have been because

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Ronnie made that sound. Then I'm
assuming that that's the only thing I can

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think of that was I That's how
I seen your podcast, you know,

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I watched I watched these things after
that happened, all kinds of things over

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and over again. I try to
make sense of it. I I try

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to get a clue to understand it. I you know, it's like other

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animals that you know. You you
know their habits, you know the what

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to do and what not to do, how to camp, how to you

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know, not take toothpaste and underarm
deodorant in your tent, you know,

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around a grizzly bear. That's not
a smart idea. To always change your

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clothes into sleeping clothes after you cook
and eat. You know, all vital

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important things to know. But this
thing, don't even know what it is.

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How do you prepare? How do
you wrap your mind around that?

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I don't know. It makes you
wonder what might happen if someone was to

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play sounds like that for an extended
period of time in the Oakridge area.

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Yeah, you know, it could
be interesting. I would say, be

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prepared, and you know, try
not to hurt him, try to get

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away first. You know, I
don't think they would deserve that. So

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we'd like to know more about what
they are. And you know, I

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hear all these different things, like
one thing I'd seen on there where a

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guy had been, you know,
camping on property. Got from his dad

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building a cabin and him and his
son was camped out on an a tent

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and to think drug him through the
woods for you know, god knows how

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far and you know, things like
that is like wow, I mean,

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what could have happened? You know? Maybe I don't know. I just

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I can't wrap my head around it. Still, I'm still trying to figure

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it out. I wanted to ask
you about the monkey sounds you heard that

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one night with Ronnie. Have you
ever heard any other monkey that sounds similar

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to it? No? No,
No, That's why I say monkey like

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it was, you know, because
my kids always hated me. I would

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like to watch documentaries on you know, everything, animals and all kinds about

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all kinds of things. I like
history and you know, interesting things,

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and so I've been around a lot
of animals and then the ones I can't

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be around, you know, like
I've been to the wildlife so far as

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you see, and then the rest
I watch on you know, Natural,

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National Geographic or something like that.
But I'm always watching things on even the

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small all of a suden. At
one time I was up in the High

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Lakes. We were up there fishing, me and another friend of mine,

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and we're just fishing away, but
then all of a sudden, the silver

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mic crawls out of the water and
up a stem and you know, and

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starts cracking open. So, you
know, we focus on this thing,

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and we watched this dragonfly crawl up
the stem and dry itself off, and

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then you know, it flutters its
wings a bit and it takes off and

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this tree big bee zooms down and
swoops it up, and it was gone,

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done that, and we watched it
forever. So I'm I'm just interested

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in even the smallest things, you
know, bigs. So society will be

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right back after these messages. But
I have never heard I've never heard anything

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like it. It was, you
know, he got some tapes out from

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oh I think Ron Moore hit or
something like that. Yes, I'm not

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the guy that's even looked for him
or paid attention to any of that,

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so I'm kind of bad on the
names, you know. So some of

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those sounds that I heard on there
were kind of similar to that, and

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and then somewhere a little different too, as unexplainable, but the mimicking the

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other animals and you know, incredible
incredible. So I just want to clarify.

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So you're saying some of the things
you heard were similar to the Sierra

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sounds that Ron Moore had recorded,
sounds like yeah, wow, yeah,

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definitely, and and and then just
you know the tracks the next morning when

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we got up and looked around,
man, it was different sized tracks,

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but that big one that kept coming
back to the the tent back and forth,

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it was it was like twenty three
inches long. It was. It

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was so huge that it would just
looking at the track freaked you out.

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You know, I'm glad you brought
that up, because that's actually a question

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I wanted to ask you, is
when you woke up the next morning,

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were there things you noticed that that
made you think, Okay, what happened

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last night actually did happen? Oh
yeah, yeah. You could definitely see

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the where they came in, and
when went around the camp, and you

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know a lot of the spots it
was either solid or pine needles and didn't

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think any good. But every once
in a while you'd find a place where,

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you know, a fern had been
kicked out the way, that was

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fresh dirt there, and you would
find a little print or two, you

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know, but that Uh, that
print was unbelievably big, man, unbelievably

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big. Did you see situations where
there was like kind of a trackway where

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you saw print and then maybe a
few feet ahead of it, you saw

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another print from the same animal potentially? Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's

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happened through there, definitely, like
where he was feeding him, where I

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found that track coming out. He
put it in there, and then we'd

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go back up there to check it, and I said, hey, look,

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Ron, there's a track coming out
here the other direction, and the

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bananas would be gone, I mean
just gone, nothing there. And one

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time he put this up pastry in
there, right like he buy it a

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box those clear boxes at the at
the bakery at the store, you know,

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yeah, he uh, he put
one of them up there, man,

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And I was, I was,
I was simply amazed. We got

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up there and things were gone,
and this box was empty and it was

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sealed again, not broken, stuffed
back in the bag. I couldn't believe

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it. I just couldn't believe it, because I went up there once with

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him in a bear. He'd left
peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and stuff,

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and a bear got into it,
and you could tell, you know,

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things were chewed up, and you
could tell it was a bear from the

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tracks and everything else, and it's
like, bron you're beating bears. Wow.

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But I just I was just blown
away, and you know, his

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dedications, thinking that you know,
he's gonna get close to him, he's

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you know, it's kind of amazing. But little we'll see in the end

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if he if he is. I've
heard stories of that same thing happening with

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other people, and I maybe he
will. I don't know. Yeah,

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hopefully there was a time when you
guys were out there and then Ronnie decided

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to stay there by himself. Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there

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was. We went up there to
to check the food and stuff that he's

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left up there and looked around,
you know, and my daughter went with

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us, and so we're get up
there and uh, we're I'm with my

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daughter and her jeep and Ron's got
his car up there. So I had

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my daughter turn her jeep around,
you know, because after that happened,

408
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:07.360
it's, like I said, as
a dead end road and I don't feel

409
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:14.039
safe anyway, So I had her
turn around facing the other way and leave

410
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.480
the keys in the car, you
know, just in case we have to

411
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.519
make a quick escape or whatever.
But we're walking around up there, and

412
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:29.199
then that same whistling starts, and
my daughter starts whistling back. Then the

413
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.760
thing whistles back, and my daughter
whistles back, and she's walking around and

414
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:40.559
getting getting a little bit closer to
this whistling. Well, these things started

415
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:46.719
getting excited, and it started getting
hopped up pretty good, and a few

416
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.039
sounds went off, and then then
all of a sudden, this squirrel starts

417
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:59.760
just freaking out. That's down over
the edge a little bit, which tells

418
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:07.599
you that something has disturbed that squirrel
and is either walking towards you or walking

419
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.079
away from you if you can't see
it. But something right there is moving.

420
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.800
Because you know, if you ever
have, you know that those squirrels

421
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.039
will tell on you all the time. You know, you're trying to stalk

422
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.320
up on an animal, and all
of a sudden they start chattering and going

423
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:28.440
off because you walked under the tree
or whatever, and well they do the

424
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:35.800
same thing to everything else. So
you know, this squirrel starts chattering off,

425
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:42.280
and then all of a sudden you
hear this other noise and then the

426
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.880
raven noise. He starts I was
like, oh no, that's the big

427
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:52.159
one. And so me and my
daughter he want to go, and I

428
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.639
really didn't want to stay, and
I tried to talk Ronnie into going,

429
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.159
but he says, I'm going to
stay. And I said, okay,

430
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:05.039
man, that's on you. But
you know, if you don't come home,

431
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.400
I'll come look for you. I
know where you're at. And we

432
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:13.599
left. He said he going to
stay, and then when I seen him

433
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:19.079
the next day, he says they
were roaring there. He was. He

434
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.800
says, man, I almost wanted
to run. I almost wish I did,

435
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:30.280
and it was quite the amazing day. But yeah, we go there

436
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.119
every once in a while and see
how far I can, you know,

437
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:43.760
go up in there and move around. It's a it's a quite a place.

438
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.239
It really sounds like it. And
if listeners haven't heard Ronnie's episode,

439
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.920
you need to go listen to it
because his part of the story after Dwayne

440
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:59.079
leaves gets very intense. But so
it sounds like since that time, you

441
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:04.480
haven't actually been a you haven't been
up to that same spot again. Because

442
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:12.079
of I've been up there a few
times. In fact, that was my

443
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:20.440
daughter happened after that, I've been
up there with Ronnie only during the day,

444
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:27.400
maybe maybe three times or four times. And that's why I tried to

445
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:32.880
call him the other day. I
want to go up there again and see

446
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:38.480
how I can maneuver and feel.
Have you ever been up there without Ronnie

447
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:45.000
that there's and there's been a situation
happened with any of these creatures. You

448
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:51.159
think, well, do you have
the time when like before that, Look,

449
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.039
when I was up there with my
son and the monkey heard the monkey

450
00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:02.960
sounds, but they never they never
harassed me or tormented me. And I

451
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:09.719
never thought twice about it, but
I never really thought about it. But

452
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.239
after you know the build up and
all the things, and you know,

453
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:20.199
you start understanding. Sometimes you'll get
a smell on these things, and sometimes

454
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:25.199
they won't smell. I don't understand
that either, But what does the smell

455
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:35.159
like. It's kind of like a
dirty garbage bear. Like we used to

456
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.559
our dump used to be on the
ground. Now it's all in big containers

457
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:45.239
that they haul off to the recycle
whatever center. But when I was growing

458
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.320
up, our dump is just a
place they dumped all the bags and you

459
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.960
know, molded over with a cat
after it got full or whatever. And

460
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:59.119
all these bears would come in there
and and heating the garbage. The garbage

461
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:04.400
bears, okay, kind of it
was like them that may be a little

462
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:09.519
more musky and rancid, but really
strong, kind of like I don't know

463
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.079
what animals you got there, if
you're into the outdoors, but you know,

464
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.039
I can. I can smell a
moose, I can smell an elk,

465
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.320
and and I can. I've smelled
deer. They're a little harder,

466
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.880
got to probably be closer, and
a little bit of rain helps with them.

467
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.239
But I've never smelled the cougar.
I don't know what the smells like,

468
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.320
so I don't know if I've smelled
one in the woods or not.

469
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.360
But uh, everything's got its own
little smell. I always could tell the

470
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:45.880
difference in the smells, like you
can smell when you're walking into a herd

471
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.920
elk. You know it's a hurd
elk. The smell is intent the musk,

472
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:59.280
And I think the smell of these
things is just gnarly. But then

473
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.400
sometimes when they're around, you don't
smell them. It didn't I don't know.

474
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.280
That is very interesting. I've heard
that from other people too, Whereas

475
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:13.199
sometimes there's a lot overpowering smells.
Sometimes there's not. But have you been

476
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.440
ever been to the Spirit Lake area
east of oak Ridge? Oh yeah,

477
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:22.079
oh yeah, yeah, I've been
all over all these lakes. My aunt,

478
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.719
she worked for the poor of service, and in fact I got old

479
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.679
maps I haven't gone through. She
died not too long ago, and I

480
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:35.480
kept the maps. But the old
maps that she has has you know,

481
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.880
little lakes and things on them that
aren't on the new maps at all.

482
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.320
And some of them are like right
off the road. You can go in

483
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.440
there and catch a fish. And
if you drive by that lake a million

484
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.199
times and never know it was even
in there, and it's just right off

485
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:58.599
the road. But I love the
Spirit Lake is a thing that's come up

486
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.079
in a few cover stations with people
I've talked to from the Ochreage area,

487
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:08.800
where they say there's been some pretty
interesting bigfoot encounters that have happened up there.

488
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.320
Is that anything Did you experience anything
weird when you went to that area

489
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:21.239
or you know, I wouldn't say
weird, maybe once in a while something

490
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.800
you couldn't you know, and sound
you couldn't explain, or or a knocking

491
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:29.920
and you know, you could ride
it up as somebody else, but there

492
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:35.800
ain't There ain't nobody else around,
but you know, nothing real big.

493
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:42.880
It was, you know, pretty
most of my life it was. You

494
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.880
know, it could be, it
couldn't be. I don't know. I

495
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:54.119
wasn't into it. But some sounds, you know, that are just repetitive

496
00:43:54.239 --> 00:44:00.920
and you hear everything else and you've
got to kind of analyze what it could

497
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.760
be. And it could be something
else, but highly doubtful, you know.

498
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:13.280
When you're like when you're packed into
the lakes, it's very seldom have

499
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.920
I ever seen anybody when I was
back in there. I've seen a wolverine

500
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.079
in there up in Eddie Leo's base
in one time. It's the only time

501
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:28.920
I ever seen one in life except
on TV. And it was a beautiful

502
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.360
and a fisher too. Not many
of people who even seen a little fisher,

503
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.800
but they're a vicious little crater theirselfs. But fishing on the bank,

504
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.400
man, I was. It was
a chipmunk over there chirping and I'm trying

505
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.800
to catch a brown or a brookie, I mean, and the next thing

506
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.559
you know, this little fisher comes
swooping in there and grabs that chipmunk and

507
00:44:51.599 --> 00:45:00.119
it's just wailing and screaming, and
it goes running off and of creatures.

508
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:07.960
Uh, I mean nobody around except
for those little animals. Wow, so

509
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:15.159
you hear noises. And I really
appreciate your time talking today. There's just

510
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:21.239
uh one more question I got for
you. Thinking back over the years,

511
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.440
you know, you living in that
area, have you ever heard of a

512
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:30.840
time where there's been an individual that's
actually had a face to face sighting where

513
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:37.639
they have actually had eyes on the
creature itself and they're like, yeah,

514
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.760
I saw one, Oh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I

515
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:49.639
got a couple of people I know
that they've got casts, they've got all

516
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:57.079
kinds of things and documentation, and
I mean they've kept it forever. You

517
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.199
know, as a guy and his
dad. I knew the younger guy.

518
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.559
Well I knew his dad too,
you know, does a lot around no

519
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:13.400
carriage, but uh uh my dad
and a guy named Ron Maycock. Uh

520
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:20.119
one time said that after this encounter, my dad had said that they were

521
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:27.159
going up a bubble cariage you know, past the lake area up there,

522
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:32.320
and uh one that was like a
gray one that ran across the road and

523
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:39.199
freaked grown out. And they never
spoke of it ever. Uh than that

524
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:45.679
one that I had seen that it
hopped up on that lege and ran off

525
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.119
on two legs. We wouldn't chase. Now. I don't know what it

526
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.880
was, but I'm pretty sure that
wasn't a bear that he was following,

527
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.639
because I could see it clear as
day one handed up to the top of

528
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.440
that that we had to work to
get up and help each other to get

529
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:05.960
up. I wouldn't going after that
bear, said, I don't think that

530
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:14.360
was a bear. I'm going back. But there's there's other people. I

531
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.840
think when you get here you might
be amazed. There's quite a few people

532
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:25.760
probably that have had to encounters that. It's just all over the place.

533
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.639
I think I'm going to be ready
to talk to some people, for sure,

534
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.719
Dwayne. I will be ready.
Man. It's it's been such a

535
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:43.039
such a pleasure of chatting with you
this afternoon, Dwayne. I never thought

536
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.039
I'd be able to actually talk to
the guy and the other guy in the

537
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.599
story. But just thank you for
reaching out to me. This has been

538
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.119
a real fun time, and I
hope to maybe run into you when I'm

539
00:47:54.159 --> 00:48:00.840
out in Oakridge in just a few
weeks. Yep, you got my number,

540
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.480
man, Just give me a call. Please take a minute to help

541
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546
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547
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548
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549
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550
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.679
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551
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.639
trying to interview people that have had
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552
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:59.119
Oregon area or surrounding and you've had
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553
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554
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562
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:34.679
Her and I can get out here, we can tell our stories.

563
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.079
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening
it's too afraid to tell their story.

564
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:43.000
Maybe this will give them the courage
to come out. And now I feel

565
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.679
so bad about it. Who cares
what anybody thinks. I know what I

566
00:50:45.719 --> 00:51:06.480
saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please

567
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.239
let people know, Please let them
know. If you ever see one of

568
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:15.880
these things, you need to tell
because if you don't, then shame on

569
00:51:15.000 --> 00:52:02.400
you, you know, shame on
you.