She Wasn’t Alone: A Coast-to-Coast Bigfoot Encounter from Maryland to Alaska

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Pick for Society. Get the privilege of talking to Andrea today. Andrew is a listener of the show that we got connected about her wanting to share some things that she's experienced over the years, and really one side of the US to the other, from Maryland over to Alaska and West Virginia as well.

0:52 So we'll be chatting about a few different places today. But welcome to the show, Andrea. How are you doing. I'm doing great. Thank you Jeremiah for having me, and thank you for all that are listening. Absolutely, it is a fun, fun time. As we were talking about before, I really enjoy being able to talk to people from all over really all over the world now and we've had some fun conversations. But you know, Andrea, feel free to take us back to when this first started for you, when you first started realizing that you were involved with something out of the ordinary. Yeah, it definitely was out of the ordinary for sure.

1:33 Okay, So yeah, the one in West Virginia definitely. Is my highlight. But Ion, and thank you for all of that. I've called in and told your stories because it gave me, you know, some ideas of maybe what was happening with me, and the courage to come forward with my story as well, and also to identify that in Maryland, this definitely seems to me was an encounter of a sort. So I'll take you back. It was like the end of May of twenty twenty one, and since then he and Cock Maryland down on Hickson Road, which is on Sidling Hill. To vadel Geological thing. Check it out. It's pretty cool.

2:15 AnyWho this property I was on, it was there for three years plus. It was a horrifying property to begin with. To pull up it's like your first building to see is just very dilapidated. It's called Hicks and Feed. It's very known there and it's been around for a long time. It used to be a feed store, like a truck stop. It had kind of like this old hotel type of situation that was dilapidated. There was a small cottage and then the main cottage we lived in. The property was set on six point six six acres, and I, being a sensitive person and I have other friends that are sensitive, would come to the property and just knew something was a miss to begin with. There was this instance a gentleman had dropped off a car, was a tow truck driver and he was a paranormal investigator and had been to Penhurst. It had been to like really terrifying places, and that guy literally dropped the car.

3:16 At the end of the drive. When we got down there was like, I need to get out head. This is the scariest place I've ever been. And I definitely saw some weird stuff. I experienced some weird stuff throughout the years of being there. I was getting out of there because I was in a pretty terrible situation in the relationship and it was towards the end, and you know, I hadn't really broke the news to the person I was leaving, But we were all sitting around the fire. There was a couple there's a woman and her boyfriend, and then then a person that rents from us was there. My ex was there. So it was like five of us around this little fire down by the lower cabin. So when you come from the main road, to your left. Is like this broken down home, and then you get up a little bit further there's a yellow workshop shed.

4:02 Next to that, there was a lot of giant black walnut trees. I don't know if any of your listeners are familiar. With black walnut, but they're big and they're huge anyhow, and then next to that was the kind of hotel and that was dilapidated. Across from that it is the cabin that we stayed in. So the cabin before our cabin is where we were sitting around the fire, which was to me directly, I'm facing the yellow building. This girl's kind of got her back to it, and then the the rest of the people, so I'm kind of the only one facing the building, the tool place, the shed, the workshop shed, the big yellow one with the big walnut. Next to the big walnut tree. So there's saying. There were conversating and talking, and I kind of just carved into the dirt, you know, amc out because I was, you know, I was leaving, and I knew I was leaving, and I was just kind of like, I'm out.

4:49 Of here kind of thing, like my last message to the land, I guess. And all of a sudden, I. Started hearing the black walnuts getting like rhythmically thrown at the side of this yellow building that I'm facing now. Mind you, it's about twenty five yards from me, and it's raised up so there's a retaining wall and then the yard and then the building, so we're down below, so it's like you know, angular up. So AnyWho, it's it continues to throw these wallets, and I'm like, man, that's one talented raccoon man. And it was so much that even like the sound was so rhythmic and intentional that the girls setting next.

5:37 To me with her back to the situation, she. Kind of turned and she looks back and then she kind of looked at me, you know, looks like what's that And I just kind of gay a look back, like I don't know. Well, the sound continues, these walnuts continue to get tossed against that building the side of the building, and it raises the attention. To my dog blue nose pit at the time. There, and so she goes up and around because she can't get up over the wall, so she goes up the driveway and then up to the yard part and starts getting closer to the building. So I'm like, well, if my dog's checking this out, I need to check out this raccoon. So as soon as. I get up, I take like, I don't know, it's probably like ten steps, and I'm I'm you know, I'm still in front of the retaining wall, so you know, I am only five four so you know another's six seven inches above it, you know, kind of dow. So I get closer to the wall and I'm kind of like skiing in the tree.

6:36 And all of the sun, all of the branches in this tree violently and viscerally start shaking like I'm like, I ain't no raccoon, Like that doesn't happen with raccoon. There's not enough weight a bear. I'm like, oh, maybe it's a bear. But then I'm like, how does a bear take a way walnut? And be like Dirk Dirk Dirk and just keep doing something like that. That's not what they're gonna do, you know what I mean, they're gonna You're gonna hear them get into that tree to begin with climbing up. We're not that far. I'm gonna hear that stuff. So anyway, I just want you your listeners will know and people will know that.

7:18 Fear of that's cold and starts from like the pit of your stomach. It just goes outwards to all of your body, like your limbs, like basically your brain saying get out of here and now. So I didn't want to, I. Guess, you know, And also self preservation and instinctual survival kind of kicks in two. I knew not to like turn around and run, so I literally just do this super sual turn about, but my body is just screaming to run, so you know, I kind of, like, you know, kind of hustle back to the fire. And the girl looks at me, and I didn't realize she was watching this entire thing unfold. I was so afraid I was gonna be the only one.

7:59 So as I get to the fire, and. I mean, I have what I'm talking about now, and the girl just I mean her face. I saw the fear in her face as well, and I was like, did you see that? And she's like, yeah, what the heck was that? And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. And I just kind of like sat back down, and you know, there wasn't much more I could do just kind of accept it, and there was enough of us around that I'm. Like, well, I could be faster and jumped down this wall. I don't know. So anyway, I mean, nothing really came a bit, just you know, the violent shaking. Within a few minutes after that event, the girl sitting next to me kind of like nudged her boyfriend and was like.

8:41 You know, we got to go, and I was like, yeah, that's cool. I'm going to go to bed. You know. I kind of went in, and then you know, the. Neighbor and my ex at the time, they you know, they hung out by the fire, and you know, I didn't hear any kind of weird scenarios about that. But that was the one in Maryland that I didn't really at first come. Up with a bigfoot in my brain, you know what I mean. I was more of like I was thinking more supernatural because I had so many supernatural things happen, Like I had actually seen, you know, this black figure in my house and it was all of like I don't know, four foot tall, and uh, it was just all in black. A black veil. There's a couple of times like I thought a cat had jumped from like one of the closets to the other closet, and you know, I'm looking for the cat, like there is no cats. There was just like an ample amount of super paranormal stuff that was happening there.

9:31 So I kind of, you know, blamed the paranormal on that one until I heard, you know a few of. Your callers, you know, call in and explain their. Stories in situations such as that, you know, with the branches you know, shaking so violently and in that So in that regard, that one was, you know, I would say my first thing. And that was in May, the end of May in twenty twenty one. So as I was getting out of that relationship, I was a friend of mine. It basically got me into. West Virginia at a mutual friend of hers who had an extra room. Lovely gentleman uh TC was his name, Older gentleman. So I get out into West Virginia and like probably I don't know, first second week in June, and it was hot.

10:17 It was super super hot. And this this guy was like a real off, gritty kind of guy in the sense like you know, we. Never had our hot water heater turned on. For you know, electrical classes and you definitely know ac unless it was like over ninety eight degrees. So I knew I was moving to Alaska. So I was like, this is a great opportunity then for me to like learn survival camp And I was always a camp from always. I've always been an outdoor girl always all my life. I spent my childhood in the woods. We all did the last of the feral children of a gen xer, so you know, we. We were out there. We were always out in the wilderness. So AnyWho, knowing I was coming here, I wanted to you know, really dial in my survival techniques and you know, just stuff.

10:58 And I really enjoyed Hammock camping. I thought that was really fun and very free way of camping because you know, it's very minimalistic and light, so you can kind of get into anywhere walking and stuff. So anyway, in West Virginia, I get there and I get settled in and I was like, all right, you know, and you have this nice little. Backyard that so in the backyard the pine trees, a nice open space, great spot, couple of trees together for a perfect setup for a hammock. And then there was a couple other really cool trees. That on so the end of his property there was this really established game trail. I mean, it was great. And I'm one of those chicks too that when I hike, I find game trails. It's probably not the safest thing to do sometimes.

11:43 But whatever. Anyway, I like to follow off the beaten path and see where the animals go and. What they're up to. So AnyWho, I decided, oh, wouldn't it be a treat to string my hammock up along this game trail, and it will be really cool if like any animal walk by and I get to hear it and see it. And that would be really, like so cool. So my wish came true. I that morning I woke up to uh, the snort of a buck, you know, and they're like mad or whatever, and they're. Like and it was wild. So I was like, this is so cool. So I get but I got my you know, my camera out and my phone and I recorded sound and I'm like, oh, this is so cool because I couldn't quite get a visual on it, but I definitely heard it.

12:26 And I was like, ah, you know, it's gotta be what. It is, but I trust but verified. So you know, later on that morning, I had coffee with TCU, who was I was renting from. And I was like, oh, listen, you know, I got. This recording that happen last night and this morning. It was probably like around four in the morning, five in the morning, just that time, and he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's a buck cool. I was like, all right, I said that's awesome. And I was like, tonight, I'm going to move my stuff over so the poor tin can walk by it. And I want to anger the critters man, So I decided to bring my hammock up so that my feet were facing the game trail with my head was up towards the house, up towards the property. And I also wanted to learn about like how to use a tarp, and there was like different things on YouTube.

13:09 I was learning like different ways. So I had one that was like I had the back to it. The tarp is on the on the ground to the back and then over youo, so like I don't know what they call it, but like a sea if you will. And then my hammock's in there, and it was a deeper hammock, so when you got in it, you were really down there and nothing could see you. And I was like, oh, that's you know, that's really cool. It's kind of like a little hunting blind, if you will. So anyway, I had my friend Tec was like, listen, you know, here's a you know, it's a firecracker in case the bear combs you. Just like that, I'll hear, I'll come. To the balcony up top with the gun and I'll scare the bears off or anything weird like apple and. So anyway, I also had a metal rake. You know there's rinks with the metal fingers on them, and anyway, so I had that.

13:57 Yeah, so I had that at the end of the foot where my hammock is. And I did this intentionally for like, oh, if an animal decided to like walk through, it would tri a bit scared away, you know, kind of a booby trap, you know, a very innocent, non harmful booby trap. So I have that at the end of the hammock and. I'm settling into to bed that night, and it was Pollie around I don't know, seven thirty ish. Around that time. It was just just about getting dark. So I'm all in and I'm in for the night, you know. The tarp's over me said, I'm in there, and I'm all excited. And there was a lot of internet you could there's nothing there, like there's no Wi Fi you can get signals.

14:39 So it was just I used to download, you know, podcasts. To listen to. So I'm just listening to that to drift off. So anyway, I'm just about you know, I'm super relaxed, and I hear. Like the like the heaviest running you've ever heard, like a really long stride, Like I mean this persons there are hauling it, but like they are running. I start get really nervous because I'm like, maybe it's TC. But then I'm thinking, wait a minute, TC uses the kne he definitely ain't running. Man, I've seen the man walk. He barely could do that. He's definitely not running. But I'm thinking maybe it is. So I remember, like I hear it coming from you know, I don't know how far the distance was, but you know, you start to hear it coming. It's coming towards me, It's coming closer, it's coming closer. Now it's in the fricking yard and it's basically right in front of me. So I sat up still, I'm not being seen in mind you this turp is over me and I'm in the hemick, so you can't see me.

15:35 I'm inside this like you know, silver capsulated tarp. And I sat up and I yelled his name. I'm like TC like are you you know, kind of like an are you okay? What's wrong? Like why are you running up here? And it just dead stops, silent, quiet done. Just whoever it is is now standing within and you can feel it as far as like you know, human you know, you can feel when someone's been in your room or you know, close by, you know, when someone's near you. So I feel that they are they are here high. So I go kind of quiet and I don't say anything, and I kind of slink a little bit back down into my hammock, like. Oh, okay, well maybe this is a bear, you know.

16:17 I'm like, okay, now, now now what do I do? Okay, Well, I'm just going to sit here and just be quiet for a second. So I hear this thing now, and it must have been, you know, from the moment that I called out saying, you know, hey, t see to the next moment. I hear it walk. It was maybe like five seconds, you know, it. Wasn't It felt like an eternity, but it was probably shorter than probably five seconds. But AnyWho, I hear it walk to the end now of my hammock and around the tree now where this raak I speak about, that was my booby trap. The tongs are down on the ground, so the handles leaning against the tree, the tongs are on the ground. So I hear, Oh my god, I hear this rake in each of the fingers of this rake goes tink tink tink.

17:10 Now, the human. Brain will do a survival mechanism on you where it's gonna be like, this is an innocent thing. This is just a very cute, little fuzzy fox, and know it's how to play the guitar. That's where my brain went for like a half second, because I'm like, oh, and I remember giggling. I remember giggling out loud, like that's cute. And then reality floods in. There's no animal in the planet that's gonna go and. Like take a stick down, you know, a fence and like thing think for you, like this just doesn't happen. So now I'm getting nervous. Now I'm getting really nervous. Now I'm thinking, well, geez, is this like a neighbor person messling with me? Like is this a human interaction like messing with me?

17:51 So I just the whole you know. I've heard so many people say that, you know, the hair on the back of your neck sticking up, and I never experienced until that day. And it was just that absolute primal fear of like ancestors, just like this is the dangerous situation and you're in trouble. So I just laid there, you know, and I'm just like, well, and I did have a switch play like you know, switch knife kind of thing that I had, So I had that in my hand, and I'm like and I opened it up just in case, Like, well, I'm not going to go down, you know, not fighting. You know, I'm inside basically to go back right now, you know what I mean, Like I don't really have much of a chance, but at least I could try, and so at this point it's it's going out, it's making a full circle, like this completely came around me, and it's now getting towards the end of my feet, and I at this point, I'm mad now.

18:44 And now all of a sudden, I go into kissed because I'm like, who is this and what is this? And if this is any I'm not mad now. So I get I sat straight up and I hissed. I hissed at this thing like a cat, like I did not expect this response. So there iss I got was this. Deep, internal, weird growl that like I've heard stuff growl. I've heard brown bear growl. I know what those sound like. I know what black bears sound like. I know what dogs sound like. I know what cats sound like. I know them, you know, I know, I know what the normal nature animal sounds are. This was so not normal and it was deep and it was basy and it was.

19:27 Big, and I was just like it was kind of like one of those growls back like oh little girl, you're so cute. You have no idea what I am. Kind of thing now, the weirder part was like, okay, now that happens, and I'm just like, Dirk, you got it, sir, have a good night. And that's like basically what I was thinking in my mind. And then the weirder part for me also was that now where this situation is, where the game trail is, and my setup after this game trail. I mean, I'm not kidding, it's got to be less than a foot wide. From that foot wide, it is a straight like gully and it's I'm both sides. So it's this very deep. Gully to meet like a little stream that goes, you know, to the back. It's called the Back Creek.

20:08 It's called Back Creek, and Back Creek runs like seventy something miles like up to Frederick, Maryland or something. Crazy like that. So anyhow, it's all bush, it's all bramble, it's all noise. I heard the deer, you know, I've heard I've heard the critters walking. And make sound. There wasn't a sound after that, like the thing just like levitated or swung from branches, I don't know, but there was a sound afterwards. And so that at that point, I'm like, well, I'm not getting up because my all, my whole body was like just grab run inside that's all. Just go inside, you know what I mean, Just go inside. But then I'm like, well, what if it's sitting out here waiting for me to go do that? Like so there was a real internal battle going on. And I don't know, by the grace of God or with guardian angels or whatever, they just like, put my butt to sleep, and they're just like, sleep child, and said I did.

20:54 I fell right to sleep, but had no problems for the rest of the night. On the next morning, I got up and I went in and I you know, I talked to TC and I was like, hey, I was like, did. You come running down last night? I mess with me? He just kind of laughed and we looked in this Katie's like huh. I was like, yeah, I didn't think so. And I was like, you know, do you think anybody in your neighborhood, you know, knowing I'm here, would mess with me like that. He's like, we don't do that to people around here, because that's one way to get yourself shut. And it's just true, you know what I mean, Like, you don't go mess around, not not in this neck of the woods. I was in, not with these kind of people. So Okay, So anyways that that happened, and then I decided, well, let's stop being a tough girl. Let's try and spend a night inside with no drama. Well, color me funny.

21:37 That didn't happen because the night I go the next night, so I had that runner. I call it the runner, the runner and incident. Now I move into the house the next night, you know, to sleep inside, get into my bedroom. It's you know, same kind. Of time a night whatever, like eight o'clock, and I got my door shut. It's very very very dark. In my room. But the light in the hull, the night light in the hallway to see, you know, to walk around at night if you want to cast enough light under the door jam that you could see you know, a good you know, couple of feet in you know, you could kind of get the shadows of the dresser, do you know what I mean? Like dark, but you've got one spot that's got some you know, significant ambient light. So I kind of like look over and I'm just you know, just kind of staring at the light and look at all of a sudden, this incredibly black, very very black mist just comes up from that like the not it didn't seem like it was coming from under the door, but it was like inside the door already.

22:40 In that corner, like when the door can just meet like in that corner and just kind of raised up. And I'm looking at this thing and I'm like. Okay, and it starts to kind of like do this weird kind of like like a snake motion of just kind of coming at me. It's and it's you know, it's getting longer and it's getting darker, and it's just coming right for. Me, not literally frozen in time. I'm just like, okay, act whatever this challenge is. And I'm not even kidding this is a sound, not even of this, but it. Comes in and it's like right to my eye and it just goes right and I just am like accepting this. I'm like, bare fosh, my fate. It goes right into my eye and I'm. Like okay, cool. And there was no la like any kind of like mind thing going on. There was no like communication. It was just like Okay, this is happening, and I'm like is this happening? So now I'm my gaslight in myself, like what is going on? Like I don't do drugs. I wasn't high, I wasn't drink, and I wasn't doing anything weird. So I'm like, I'm looking at the late at the bottom of the door, and I can only see out of my right eye.

23:42 I cover my left eye. I'm like, yep, I can definitely see with my right I okay, cool, I cover my right I can't see. I think I cover it again. I'm doing this for like minutes on end, and now I'm like, what do I do? What do I do? I wake this guy that you know, I'm renting from and be like, yeah, bro, I think it ghosts in my I, you know, take me to the er. Like how do you even play that one out? I'd be in a looney bed. So I just, once again, you know, just this calming kind of like thought process washed over me, Like, well, if it's like this tomorrow, I guess you're going to have to figure out some excuses why you're blind and your left eye. So, anyway that happened, and I had actually asked TC, you know, I told him everything that happened, and you know, he was, you know, definitely not disbelieving me about the runner incident and definitely.

24:35 Support Well, I don't even know if that's the word I want to look for. But he definitely validated what had happened to me, because I didn't expect this response. After I spoke to him about the detail of what happened, and he's like, oh, you met I think he called him Harry or Henry or something. It was with an age. He's like, oh, you met so and so, And I'm like there, I guess, so what. Does that even mean? And there was like no real conversation. Wh I don't know why I didn't try and like, you know, find out and we're backstory on why I would have a black apparition enter me my left eyeball and then just leave me alone, because the next day, I mean it was fine, I could see and all that stuff. So but yeah, those are the two major ones that had happened. And that was in you know, the span from May of twenty twenty one to June or twenty twenty one, and then.

25:24 I moved here to Alaska. In December of twenty twenty one, so all of this is like in a short span. So I got to Alaska. And I was here for the winter when I moved, so spring summer, I was doing vending over in clam Gulch and this local farmer guy and I would chat in and he was like, oh you camp. I was like yeah, to tell him all the places I had already been. Here in Alaska, like starskis Ski Ski, like Lake YadA YadA, And he's like. Oh, there's this really great place, beautiful views, blah blah blah blah blah. I was like, I'm totally down. And it's off this road call why is Owl And it goes out into like lots and lots and lots of territory out back, like if you keep going, you'll end up in like Caribou Hills area and all this stuff.

26:10 So anyway, I have a. Golden rule of anywhere I go camping off grid or whatever. You know. Camped in Piscoff Forest before North Carolina, and my limit is ten miles. I figure I could walk ten miles to get out if anything weird goes down. So you know, I always kind of give myself that rule. So I drive about ten miles. In to this like crazy Catacombi trail, you know place that you know, I just kept sticking on one main road because there was so catacomby that I'm like, I will get lost in here. So I get in. I look at my O Dominus. It's nine point eight and I'm like, all right, this seems very fun, a cool spot. I'm like, all right, this looks fair. I'll you know, camp here. It was just me and my dog and so I'm on the loaded my truck. I have a camper truck I converted used to be like an old utility truck, like an ey Ps truck, but I converted into a full blown camper and.

27:00 Some of my stuff out and I'm like, god, it's a great full of fire. You know, read a book is It's going to be awesome, so relaxing. So I'm getting everything out and I'm just like I just get this really hinky. Being watched feeling, and like, yeah, I'm in the woods. There's animals. They are going to be watched, and so I kind of like brush off. I'm like whatever. And so I get everything kind of set. Up and I sit down and I'm like, I don't know why I feel so exposed. So I kind of move everything back over to where my truck is so I have more of a quick get into my truck and shut the door in. The back and so. I'm inside my truck at that point, I'm getting stuff ready to you know, cook, and I hear whistling like a person whistle, not like a bird whistle. Again, you know, I know the bird sounds. I try to burse myself in any area and I've been to and I've been to a lot of them because I love wildlife and I love animals, and I do wildlife photography, so it is my point of interest to learn them to be able to label them. So anyway, this this whistling is is just carrying on and it's constant, and it's constant, and it's constant. So I call one of my friends to be like, yeah, do you guys sound like tree frogs?

28:09 Because maybe that's what it is, because that's. What my mind is like, it's got to be, you know, let's let's let's knock off the list of what it is or isn't, and let's go with what it could be. So start with no, definitely not a tree frog. And I'm like, you know what other animal knows how to whistle? And someone's like, oh, a lynx can whistle, And I'm like they're okay, Well, this is the very different kind of whistle man, Like this is one that you and I can do that you would have to be able to do with like intention and purpose, with lips and movement, do you know what I mean? Like it's just a whistle you can't imitate in nature. It's somebody or something has. To do it. So my mind goes, oh, crap, this is probably a freaking human then.

28:50 And you know they're falling and they can't get up and they're hurt, and the soul they got. Left to do is whistle. So I'm like, oh, come on, dog, you know, like, screw. My scary feelings I had ten seconds ago. Let's go into a rescue mission for whoever's down in the woods. So her and I walk and it's probably I don't know, six sixty seventy yards down, and then there's a left hand turn for another like trail road and it's up and it's definitely up in this area. I'm like, I'm getting closer to the sound. It's getting more and more and more, and I'm like, okay, okay, I'm getting closer. And now the closer I'm getting, the less it's becoming. I'm like okay, And so I am looking I'm scanning inside those wods, and I'm just looking for any slight movement. I'm looking for just anything, you know, to.

29:32 A bird looking up, just any anything like by now, whatever's whistling, that's an animal that is afraid of humans, as they're conditioned to being in their own nature in DNA would have left, you know, they would have scurried off, and you know, the ladies here gotta go. None of that happened and just went dead dead, silent, And I got that whole feeling again of like the wash over your body, like this is none of your business. I want you go back to your truck. I did it about face. I went right back to my truck and I locked it down, and again, you know, I stuck it out. I stayed all night long. I don't recall any kind of strange incidences that happened or any noises throughout the night. But the next morning I did hustle out of there. When I got out and started packing my stuff up to the right of me and into the woodline, I noticed there was this thirty.

30:26 Foot tall I don't know the technical. Name, but the thing that you would you would hang like your moose or your bear, you know, to dress them out, you know what I mean, like those things that it was thirty foot tall. I kid you, not huge. So this thing is there and I'm like, oh, so I basically camped under like the kill station all night long, like no wonder why, I feel like watched, you know what I mean. So anyway, there was that one. And then on my very very last it was very recent. It was in October. We had a super mild summer here. It was probably the most bang or summer a lot of us have seen, especially if you lived here longer than me. I've only been here four years, but it was amazing and it went all the. Way out until October the warmth.

31:06 So I decided to do one last camping trip with my dog and myself, and I went back to Skilac. Now, the Skilac is one of my favorite. Most peaceful, most calming places I've ever been to in my life. I love this wise. I can't speak enough of it. I always go to Upper Skillac Campground. So I go there in October. It's like, you know, near end of October and there's nobody there, just day trippers, you know, in and out, in and out whatever I'm paddle born. And I'm doing stuff out in the lake because it was that nice in that warmth. Well, it wasn't more of anything that just physically truly happened, but it was an overall super uncomfortable feeling that I had that I've never experienced there before, Like just something that was like why do you got to be here too?

31:52 Like we need this space right now? Can you just go? Do you know what I mean? Like that kind of like like a frustration feeling, a kind of like it's time for you guys to go now, like this is you know, this is a habit we have or whatever. And I just always felt like watch like I'd be outside, you know, the dog, you know, trying to enjoy myself. But it was just I kept being like I was just driven inside more. I stayed inside my truck more than I normally would have. So that was like that was my only weird thing. And I know when I looked. On the BRFO of the Bigfoot research, you know, thing I noticed, oh I'm sorry, not on that. It was on you know, I'm sure Fred. I think it's grol the Subarctic sasquatch.

32:36 Yeah, yeah, yep, roll yeah, so. I checked out his site and yes, there has been sightings. There's a sighting and SKILEC and it is at upper SKILEX. So that kind of confirmed that. Yes. And then on the BRFO one, if you look in the jared'stown where I was Tony that I was at, on the exact location, they actually have a reporting. There was a couple and it was called on Swinging Bridge Road. Now I was on Hemlock Lane and now Hemlock lay into this road I speak of is a half an hour drive, but you would have to go down the mountain back up and around. But as the crow flies from exactly where it was, it's a straight line north on this ridge line to where this sighting was. So that kind of gave me a little like a little validity on that where it was like no flipping way and like as big as they are and they can move the movement that would take them no time. If it's a half an hour drive, that's a ten minute walk for them. Yeah.

33:34 I mean, if people haven't been falling along with the map or just any map, I mean, this is you're talking about keen I Peninsula, which some wild wild stuff happens out there, when it comes to p Yeah, my goodness, I can't believe you're out by yourself like that. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah, well it's funny because I hear too, Like, you know, I am in the firm believer. We're that you know, there's good and bad everything, just as I believe. There's a boatload of them that are very very good. But it seems like the ones in Alaska are just super grumpy. Yeah, especially like the friend's stuff and like his experiences, Like I don't think he likes somebody'll hold no love for them.

34:18 I'm like, I do I care. I think they're pretty cool, like I never like in my life, Like I remember being a small kid and you know, hearing you know, the Patterson Gimble film come out, and it was like on the news and stuff. So to me and my little brain, it was like, oh cool, that's a. Washington problem, the East coast off, you know, and you're taught as a little kid like the darker than scary, there's no monsters, will low and freaking behold, apparently there's a whole bunch of them. That man, you have really lived through a lot of wild stuff already. Andrea, my goodness, that's just a few years. Wow. Can you not to put you on the spot, but the whistle that you heard, are you able to imitate that at all?

35:09 I mean yeah, I mean I could give it a try. It was more like a okay, do you know what I mean? Like that, It wasn't like a birdie call. It was like a. It was literally like a come hither call, Come here, you were calling your dog? Okay, gotcha. I was just curious because I'm always when anyone brings that up, I'm always like, man, I wonder, what if it sounds like what I heard in Oregons And it almost sounds like what you heard kind of went up and pitch at the end. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah definitely. And I know too, like I feel like. Obviously if you are a you know, they don't have the pollution like weeds. They're super more in tune to things, and I think that they can limit much of the wildlife around them to communicate with each other.

35:59 That's only that they would not, you know, to distinguish. So sometimes I even wonder, like half the stuff I've heard in my past, you know what I mean, Like maybe that knock wasn't a wood packer, you know what I mean, like or you know maybe that you know dog Birk wasn't a dog. Marks, you know what I mean. It's just it's very. Wild, absolutely. I mean, mimicry is such an interesting thing. I mean, even in some humans, the mimicry that can happen is incredible. I think I remember seeing a news report about a young boy with autism that could mimic something like thirty or thirty or fifty different birds. So it's just it's incredible, incredible stuff that certain certain individuals or you know, types of beings can do. Man, that your story in West Virginia, I mean, that's gonna bug me because I want to know more from what TC knew.

36:52 I mean he knew. Something, Yeah, yeah he did, and I wanted to like reach out and talk to him again about it, but I just I just haven't because. I don't know. I just I just haven't, probably because he's only has a cell phone and the recession there is bad. I remember, you would have to go outside to a certain part of the yard to be able to get phone calls, so you know, one of those things like I would have to make the poor old guy walk outside and I talked to me for half and hour. Some people, I'll just write him a letter and see what they'll write me back. Absolutely, it's just weird. After you had the black mist uh enter your eye, did you after that point any weird health issues come up or did you have any eye appointments where they noticed anything.

37:43 Or no, No, I nothing, nothing of like I'll you know, a fete kind of thing. The next day, I felt fine, I could see fine. I was just more of like, what in the actual heck just happened to me? Like what did? What did I just go through? And it was so mind vending that you know, that's what really put their trajectory for me on the ever ending. Knowledge and thirst off for anything doing with the forest. People like I listened to you guys religiously. You there's a few of you guys only that I. Listened to because I feel like some others are just a little bit and not everybody and that's just kind of want make money out or whatever. But I care because you guys care about what we've gone through and really loved.

38:26 I just love how you interview style. Thank you, and I love hearing the people that call in and talk and they've helped me through that. And again, like I say, I thank all of them that have shared their experiences because it helped me to understand that AA wasn't crazy. Because you gaslight yourself so bad for days and weeks and months, and you don't want to tell anybody because of the fear of just like you first, you don't want that reaction. That's the last thing you want somebody to do, is like laughing at you or telling you what you didn't see. You know, it's like, no, man, I was there and I know what experienced please, So. Yeah, I mean, I've you know, I have talked to Miguel. I did do his podcast not too long ago, but I don't know if it was a good enough.

39:07 Story for him or not. But I haven't heard it, but I'm sure he's got tons and we'll probably come out next year and that's really cool. But he is the only other one and like two of my friends that I've told. So it's a very small circle of people and now will be bigger and maybe some people in West Virginia. I was hoping, like, hey, West Virginia folk, you know, if you guys have ever experienced anything like that, as well, I would just like to have the you know, the ballad. It's it's such an important thing. I mean, I'm right there with you when you can get that just hearing about someone who's experienced something like you have. And you know, if listeners don't know who Miguel is, he's a great guy.

39:48 You can check him out his show. Yeah, yeah, so good. We talk every once in a while. But the black Missed thing, the missing in general is a wee thing, and I really hope it doesn't become a pattern, but it might, so the one that's out on the show, and I was literally just talking about this with the person I talked to before you. But there's the episode where I talked to the individual out by Mount Hood in zig Zag, Oregon and where they pretty much saw a cougar panther type creature turn into black mist and then go around a go over the creek, which is wild.

40:32 And then I brought that up earlier today because there was another individual I talked to from Virginia and she was having all sorts of really interesting, just weird things happen on her property that are Bigfoot related but also perhaps paranormal, and what she described is seeing something very similar on her porch, and that's the one time that she's seen a physical manifestation of whatever is going on on her properties. So I don't know if this is a thing where it's it's something else or it's something related to Bigfoot. Who knows. I mean, that's kind of part of trying to figure this out, right. It's just it's such a weird, weird thing. And the other thing I wanted to point out to you is you said that you immediately fell to sleep after you had been growled back at, after you kind of hissed at it.

41:27 And it's just it's very interesting when you have these individuals that have something happen to them in a similar situation. Almost all of them always say I immediately fell asleep. I went right into a deep sleep. And it's like you, I can just like check it off on I can make a list and check it off like Okay, they're going to say they fell to sleep quickly next, and they always do. It's just it's the weirdest way. Oh yeah, that's wild. I've never heard it out loud spoken before, and that's why it almost makes one to say that they. Couldn't believe you because what do you mean you didn't get up and run into the house? What do you mean you fell asleep? Right? You know what I mean? So you get kind of like that to gas light youers like what the heck?

42:10 Kind of like what wild? That's very wild. I wonder if it's like, you know, like a weird infrasound thing that they maybe send out like sleep shy or you'll fine. Now, I think it could be that, or perhaps it's even like it might be some weird type of like adrenaline dump where your body's. Just yeah, that was actually my first thing, Like your body was just like just play dead. It's like pert fainting. Goat right there you go crazy stuff. Would you ever? Are you the type of person where you would want to have an actual sighting of a big foot? Are you okay having these kind of peripheral things happen to you in this way?

42:59 You know, it's such an awesome question because you know, I've heard you ask your guests out before and I definitely have always been like yes, yes, which totally love to see you on and just you know, because here's why, Because I'm a believer, but I'm not a knower. Do you know what I mean, Yes, in the sense that like, yes, I totally had these weird experiences. And it totally I can. Tell you everything that it wasn't but I can't tell you exactly what it was. But if I saw it, I'd be like, oh, yeah, totally, this is what it was. So for that, yes, but here, no, I don't want to though me being saying that I this summer for my birthday, I'm going to Poor Chatham just.

43:42 To go see it. I don't think I'm going to camp. I'm not gonna do something weird. Man. I have a healthy self preservation going on at fifty two. So I just my friend's got a boat, so he's you know, we could drive by it. And I just I just want to get the overall vibe, do you know what I mean? Because there's such controversy of like, oh, it's just because the cannery down, bro, it's not because of scary monsters. But then the scary monster stories are like, now it's scary monsters. I just want to because again, you know, I'm a very intuitive human, like I pick up on a lot just I'm. Like, I'm just a dish for it. And I can walk by a house and tell you if it's haunted, because my spine does this weird tingly thing like it just goes right up into the brain and just get the goosebumps down the shoulders. It's pretty wild.

44:24 But yeah, I can absolutely feel those things. So I just I for my own self, just want to, you know, go buy that place and get the vibe of the overall vibe. But uh, And it's funny because I do watch a lot of the small Town Monsters, those guys, and I know that they've been going to Area A, and I totally feel like I know exactly where that is. And I won't say it out loud, but I I if it is where I think it is. I have been camping down in those areas quite a bit as well, and would love to. Yeah, yeah, I have a good feeling of where it is because I saw one of the episodes where they pulled out of Harbor, and again I've been there enough to know certain places. Yeah, there's there's so many, so many things that have happened on the Kenai Peninsula. And I'm thinking of another person I talked to, uh, and they had it was in Port Graham, which is kind of you know, down in that same area as Port Chatham and his daughter saw what she said was like a large ape like creature growling by the house and they found footprints and there's screams and whoops from nearby lakes. That's nine thirty if people haven't listened to that. But yeah, the whole area, I mean, you could spend a whole lifetime I think exploring just that peninsula and looking at big footstep.

45:41 Oh yeah, no, it's really and I would you know, and again like I would love to see you on like you know, all real in front of these but I don't. I don't know what I'm loved to do by myself. But if there's people down here in the Kenai Peninsula that are listening to me and any way that they can reach out in contact me, and if they do do like you know, explorations or you know, like go out and camp for a few days, I am so down. I bring good snacks. I would love to go, but be surrounded by people in safety, because yeah, I mean, you are vulnerable when you're by yourself, and I know that there's kind of like a little more of an interest at least of what I've heard with your viewers calling them with women alone with them out about it seems that we draw them in more, whether it's like the smell of our pheromones or our actual you know, energy, feminine energy, and I you know, and again I kind of feel that, you know, I defend them in the sense where it's like, bro, they've been here, like way long time. I think they've been here for a very very long time. I believe the dog man. Now I'm starting to believe more than that guy. They have been here for a long time.

46:49 And I feel like they were soldiers of some sort back in the time, and there's some unwritten rule that they're not allowed to kill us. I mean if they get into a scuffle. Obviously, because men or a lot of men and women too, we do packed. And go for walks because we have to be gouse of the bear. And I don't think. They love the violence parts of us. And I think that's why they'll be a little territorial. If we're getting close to their like stomping grounds or their breeding ground or their nursery or whatever, that they're going to be like get out of here. You know, they're gonna scare the crap out of you. But I don't know, you know, you know what I mean, Like they could come into the in the middle of the night. Those guys could come into a town and decimate a town and no problem. They could send four or five of them in and they could take out so many people.

47:31 Think about it. You tell you hear these people talk about how they they bang on the wall. Do you know how big these guys are. They can lift your home and take it with you, Like if they wanted to get in and harmonied, they will. And like listening to your show last night, they spoke to what we spoke about earlier, you know, with her saying that they're more like tricksters. They want to be harassing, like and I almost feel like toe like if that's like the juveniles, you know what I mean, like coming out to harass the no hairy people. Right exactly. I think there's definitely oh yeah, it's it's be prepared for the worst. But also I mean there's just because as you said, there's areas where there's predators like bears outside of Bigfoot, but you know it's it's don't try to trick them, you know, have respect. Those are are the main the main things that that I think of. But it's like, my goodness, Yeah, once you start just having the right attitude and you're doing this for the right reasons, you can have some really really interesting things happen. And I think that there have been maybe there's definitely been a short or a small amount of times where I mean you've got like the story of Port Chatham, where you know, the town was pretty much run out. But I mean, as you said, and I agree with you, if they were really wanting to take us out all the time, the guy can't image and the number of stories that we would have where

49:02 it just we would be constantly being you know, really messed with. And so I think a lot of it is just you know, leave us alone and get out of our area. As you shared in a few of your stories. Yeah, they're like just stay in your lane, we'll stay in ours. And I guarantee, I'll put money on. The government absolutely knows everything about these creatures that are out there, and this is why so many places are restricted or band to going. And it's just kind of like an unwritten rule of like, yeah, they're there, but we're not going to admit it because then think about the ramifications of once they admitted it, do you know what I mean, there would be full on hunting parties, so going massacre them all or whatever, and there's you know, I feel like there's a finite balance somewhere that's you know, either universally written, godly written, spiritually written, whatever you want to call it. But there's just some rule that's I would love to find. I looked it for the book the Manual of What's going on here, because it's so inquisitive, but also it's just you know, and also what a beautiful thing because it keeps us all so engaged and keeps us all in conversation, whether it's you know, not the same, the same and different, different, whatever, but it's engaging us and we're all in a community. I mean, I think, you know, Bigfoot has made a bigger, wonderful society than anything else.

50:18 I think they're doing something right. Right absolutely, And I agree with you that you know, the government does know something. I mean, there's a conversation that will be out in a few days from recording, so listeners of this will have already heard it. But I mean, I was able to have a guy come on camera who is a veteran who talked about how he was in briefings at Fort Lewis and up in somewhere in Alaska. He wouldn't say where, but they were actually briefed on what to do if you see a sasquatch and how that goes down.

51:02 And I was just, no, I can't wait for that one. It was wild. I mean, and he's actually on camera. I mean, the people that are starting to come forward, it's absolutely intense. So it's cool stuff. Yeah, I love that, But yeah, I love that, and I thank them as well, because you know, watching listening to it is a wonderful, but watching them relive their experience give so much more detail because it's you know, you read their body and you see, you know how they are, and you just you just know. It so genuine, you know. And I do enjoy that. And I apologize that I didn't necessarily want to be on camera, but my. Story is true. Oh absolutely, And I really like either either types of interviews are are fantastic. But I wanted to also point out you kind of had alluded to if people want to reach out to you, it's okay. And I know that you had put down when you signed up for the interview that you're okay for people to reach out to you through your email, right, Yeah, yeah.

52:02 That's great. I would love that. I guess what. I love the community and I. Would love to you know, I always say, I'm like, I would just love to go out there and you know, look and you know, and again, like when I go out and on any walk into the woods, I always do set intention and it's you know, I'm here for a peaceful walk. I respect and honor all of the nature here. You know, anything I can do to help, I'm here, you know, And that's I just set intention every time I go in, and I feel like, you know, I feel like, you know, in the sense that they can pick up that frequency and that vibe, that energy that you know. That low key vibe of like cool, this one's non threatened out a problem. So oh absolutely, yeah.

52:42 I would love to buy more people like that to hang out with and go do adventures around here, because this is the most magnificent state I have ever ever lived in, and I've lived in quite a few and people here are just really cool and there's a lot to do and there's a lot to adventure, and yeah, really excited. So listeners if you want to reach out to Andrea, the email for her will be in the description of the show episode show notes. It's also critter sitter seventy three at yahoo dot com is what she put down, so good stuff there. Thank you for being willing to do that, Andrea, and definitely keep us in the loop with if anything else comes up in the future, and if people listening have experienced things in the same areas or states that she's been talking about, I'd love to hear about as well. You can reach out to me at Bigfoot Societygmail dot com to share. I've got people reaching out all day long to share what they've been experiencing, and I'd really appreciate that. But Andrea, thank you so much for reaching out to me and for having a conversation and sharing what you've experienced so far.

53:56 Well, thank you Jeremiah for having me. And again, thank you to anybody and everybody who has called in and shared their experiences that have legitimately helped me a lot, and I thank them and I thank you all very much. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.

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55:40 It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code b SP like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two day pass for the price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

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