Oct. 29, 2024

Shenandoah Valley Mountain Sasquatch

Join Jeremiah Byron on the Bigfoot Society podcast as Bill from Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, recounts his spine-chilling encounters with Bigfoot. During hikes on the mountain, Bill experiences strange noises, rock-throwing entities, and mysterious...

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Season 1

Join Jeremiah Byron on the Bigfoot Society podcast as Bill from Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, recounts his spine-chilling encounters with Bigfoot. During hikes on the mountain, Bill experiences strange noises, rock-throwing entities, and mysterious discoveries like dog vertebrae arranged on a plate. Despite his military background, these events fill him with inexplicable fear and doubt. Bill also reflects on how these encounters have profoundly impacted him. Don't miss this gripping account that challenges our understanding of the unknown.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Bill today. Bill is an

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individual from the Shenandoah Valley down in Virginia. He's had

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an interesting thing happen that he is wanting to come

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forward with and just pretty much get off his chest.

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So Bill, thank you for coming on the show today,

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and you're welcome to go ahead and share what you

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would like to regarding what happened.

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Okay, thank you. Jeremar Well, the long short of a

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story about me, I need to explain what led up

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to it because some of the actions that I did,

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some of the things I did. You know, it looks

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it'll it will explain why I did what I did.

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But anyway, I live in the Sandeau Valley, which is

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in western Virginia. It's a very beautiful area. It's got

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lots of mountains and rivers. It's very rocky and just

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a great place to live. I'm pretty much retired, so

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I was pretty much spent. I spend my days playing

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guitar and walking my dogs. I walk my dogs every day.

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And that's how That's what led up to this is

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I have a ridgeline near my house that I hadn't

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walked up, and then just this year I started walking up.

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And this is maybe the fifth or sixth time i'd

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been up there. It's just a really well maintained road,

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federal land. There's people out there at certain times of

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the year other times, though the first few times I

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went there, I didn't see any gun at all, so

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it's not exactly the wilderness, but but you know, it's

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there's I don't know if that's hard to explain it.

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When you get in the woods out here, a mile

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feels like ten miles from where I'm from you. So anyway,

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I guess it started with me walking my dogs. I

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decided to go out there one morning and just a

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couple of weeks ago and walk up the mountain because

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uphill trying to stay in shape and trying to train

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my dogs not to pull me, and it uphill just

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really worked out good. And it's a great road and

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it's very scenic. There's a creek that runs below it,

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and it's cutting to the side of a mountain, so

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it rises above you on your right side and your

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left side. It kind of goes down into a little

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valley in the creek. That creek is full of water.

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It was full of water at the time. I think

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it had rained five inches the night before. It was

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extremely wet and cloudy that day, so it was about

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I got there about ten o'clock in the morning, and

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the forest was dark because of the cloudiness, and then

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it just stopped rating thirty minutes earlier. But anyway, I

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had been watching a lot of things on YouTube about

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sasquatch and all that, and so I knew techniques and

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what people did. I didn't know if there was any

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out here. I just was curious about the subject. And

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so for some reason this morning, when I got I

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let I took my dogs out of the truck. After

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parking at the back base in the mountain, I decided

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to grab some I was looking for a piece of

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wood or something to hit against the tree, because it

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was just on my mind. I had been watching it,

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and I was just like, there's no one out here

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as quiet. I wonder what would happen if I did anything.

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I didn't really think anything would happen, but I didn't.

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It was really wet and I couldn't find anything that

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would work good. So I picked up two rocks and

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clacked them together in like a clack three clacks or

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so with rhythm, and then just threw them down and stopped,

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told my dogs to stop, and listened. We listened for

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I don't know, maybe a minute or two, not very long, nothing,

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and all I could hear was like the trees dripping

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and acorns falling, that kind of thing. So we went

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on our walk. We walked all the way up about

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two miles up the mountain, I think, just looking at tracks.

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I was trying to see what kind of tracks were

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crossing the road. I always something I always do. I

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like to find bare tracks if I can. They're hard

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to find around here sometimes because of the ground, but

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we was wet, and I factually did find some. There's

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a lot of deer tracks from going across the road,

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and they go up the cut of the you know

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where it rises above on the right side, and big

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an so you can kind of see what's been going

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across the road. And we walked up all of the

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top about two miles and I saw a huge boulder

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there like there's beside the road, and I decided to

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for some reason. So I picked up a rock and

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threw it as hard as I could against that boulder,

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and it really did work that time. It echoed throughout

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all the little all the canyons and little It's just

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a very rocky area. There's a lot of rock formations

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and there's not no open ground, and so I could

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kind of hear it echoing throughout. And then we stopped.

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The lessons heard nothing. So I started going back down

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the mountain, which is an unfortunate thing because we were

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going down and I remember almost running and I ran

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and my keys fell out of my pocket. This is

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not related to this story, but it's just it made

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the things made things worse. But anyway, sometime my keys

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fell out of the pocket while I was running down.

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We were pretty much jogging down the road and I

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get back to the truck and my door is one

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foot open. I knew how. I was sure I closed it,

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but it was just hanging open, which was weird to me,

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but I wasn't quite sure. I knew I left it closed,

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but I didn't know somebody messed with it. I didn't

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know what had happened. But I loaded up the truck.

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I opened it up, loaded up the dogs, and closed

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the door. I was standing outside trying to get in

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my pockets, trying to find the keys, which weren't there,

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when I noticed at the corner of my eye, about

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I don't know, just a few feet ahead of my truck,

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I noticed a pebble hit the like hit in the

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center of the road and bounced across the road. And

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I mean see, it was just all happened split second.

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So at the time I thought it was weird, but

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I was worried about where are my keys? Where are

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my keys? And just literally a second later, I heard

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some crash from the right side of the road through

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the trees, and I looked up in time to see

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a rock or you know, I could see the blur

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of it or whatever go over my head and land

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on on the other side of me, Like it went

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over my truck, over my head and let it on

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the other side of me and just bounced and kind

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of rolled a little bit, so it was like lobbed,

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not thrown. You know. That's when I was like, Okay,

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that first rock was a rock, because I know it was.

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I just I just I don't know. I didn't register like, okay,

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someone's out there throwing rocks whatever, and but this is

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a bigger rock and it was felt more aggressive, and

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so I turned around the direction that came and yelled.

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I just yelled, hey, like, you know, why are you

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messing with me? Or whore? What's going on? What is this?

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And immediately I was met with very hard to describe

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low grunts or like or whooping or it's like, I

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don't I haven't been able to find exactly an exact

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match online or anything for what it sounded like. But

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it was more just and there. I could feel it

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like I was looking up and I could I couldn't

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see them, but I could feel that there was two

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of them because they were both facing me when they

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were making this noise, and there was one that was

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a little bit higher than the other one, and it

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was all at the same time, and it felt like,

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you know, I knew where they're at. I could see them,

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but I couldn't see them. I could just tell from

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the noise that there was two of them. I belief anyway.

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So at that exact time is when the fear really

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really gripped me, because my mind was trying to figure out, Okay,

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what's making this noise and it didn't sound I mean,

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it didn't sound human at all. I can't replicate it myself,

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and I'm a pretty large guy, and so I was

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really freaked out by that point. So I unloaded my dogs.

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I couldn't find my keys, and I looked under the

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truck everywhere as fast as I could, but I decided

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it was better to unload the dogs and get down

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the hill because I didn't know what was making this

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noise and it was freaking me out. And so I

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got the dogs out the truck and the same thing.

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They went off again, like six or seven times, and

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at one point it felt like you could hear it

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turn or whatever it was turned towards the other one.

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The higher pitched one always was at me, but they

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could feel the lower pitch was felt like it turned

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away from me and was still making the noise, just

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by the sound coming out of the woods. My reaction

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was to go down the hill to the gate, because

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there's the blacktop starts and there's houses. There's somewhere to

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run if I can. I can't get my keys, I

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don't I can't drive out of there. There's somewhere to go.

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If they come at me, and pretty much once I

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got down to the gate, I hooked the dog's leasious

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on the gate and I just turned around and watched

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that area and I heard too quick crashes like crashing

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in the brushes, crash, crash, crash, crash, and it sounded

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for sure that it was going away from me, And

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so that was pretty much it. They that was the

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last I heard. I got on the phone and called

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for help. Someone came out there and we walked the

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whole route again, armed looking for the keys. I was

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looking up like trying to hear anything, trying to see anything.

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I was out there. I called a locksmith and got

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my key situation fixed. I was out there for a

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couple hours, just watching, never heard or seeing anything after that.

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The issue with it is is the noises. I just can't.

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We talked about well, could have been people, well, where

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they were at at the time they were on it

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was extremely rocky, extremely wet. I just and the noises

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that came out of there were just I didn't I

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don't know how a human can replicate them. And that's

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where the fear came from, I guess. But that's pretty

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much it. That's the story that happened. There's a little

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more to it as far as some things that were

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out there that I saw that don't make total sense

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to me. There's there's a plate out there sitting on

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a rock with some dog were very very on it,

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arranged in a circle as it was or something, and uh,

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there's yeah, I don't I don't know. That's pretty mu

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that's what happened, Bill.

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That is extremely intense one. Thank you for Sharon. I

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know that this is hard for you to recount. We

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were talking about this beforehand, that this is one of

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the only times you really talked about it.

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It's still affected me because there's you know, I could

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see the place where it happened from my backyard, you know,

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and not for days. I just I couldn't even stand

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to look at it. It brought fear to me, and so

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I got this idea that I was going to conquer

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my fear. So I waited a week and I took

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my dogs up there, and there was people up there.

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There was there was some hunters that were getting ready

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to go hunt, and there was a camper that was

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loading up his stuff and he had been camping out there.

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So I felt I got some nerve to get my

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dogs out of the truck and try to go up

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there and just look see what was up there. And

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my dogs I didn't talk about their reaction, but I

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don't know about the reaction when it happened, because the

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one is she's real, she loves people, she's all I

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gotta be like around Discovery, around me all the time.

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And I don't know she was going off by fear,

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but she was afraid at the time.

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Big for Society would be right back after these messages.

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My other dog just looked. She didn't bark, she didn't anything.

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She just looked up. She looked at the direction. She

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didn't go crazy like she would have if there was

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a human up there and doing that thing. Anyway, this

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ties into this week later, when I brought the dogs

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back up there, I tried to go up a deer

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trail into there, and my dog pulled against me and

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would not go in there. So I brought her down

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and went around the road and up the hill to

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a spot where it wasn't so steep, and there was

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there was another deal for deer trail, but it was

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more open now and the same thing she pulled me,

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she pulled me she would not go up in there,

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and I couldn't hear anything, see anything. She just wouldn't

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go up in there. We went across the road and

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she went straight into the woods. So that's another part

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of it. So she just didn't want to go in there.

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It's really strange because I go in the woods everywhere

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and she loves the woods, but that section is not

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where she wants to go.

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Did you get a chance to talk to the camper

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that was up there, yeah, asked him.

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He said he didn't hear anything. He was he was

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down the hill from there against the almost the creek,

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and the creek right now it's full and it's a

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bunch of step waterfalls, so it is really loud down there.

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But he said the same thing he said. He said,

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he said, if if there was and he he didn't

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hear anything, but he said, if it was a king

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pointed to where I was talking about. He said, we

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would come from over there. That's all he said.

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Oh wow, I wonder what he meant. That is very interesting.

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No, he just said he said, if it's if there's something,

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you know, it's gonna be coming from over there. And

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that could make sense in a way that on. On

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one side of the road is you know, there's a

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creek and that's where the people go. You know, there's

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you know, there's just you know, people that just drive

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out there and just want to get out in the

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wood a little bit. There's trails and stuff. The other

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side of the road would be where the people aren't.

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So, yeah, that makes sense. Do you mind if I

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ask us some questions about sure? No, Okay, did you

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notice a smell when you were up there during the

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actual situation that happened?

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Okay, No, But like I said, I don't Yeah, I

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didn't mention it in the story, but they were probably

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fifty feet away from me. I'm just it felt like

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I could tell exactly where they were at when they

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were wooping or hooping or grunting or whatever. But I

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would guess fifty fifty yards ahead of me, above me.

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Maybe there's rock formations up there, But no, I didn't

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smell anything.

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Maybe natural caves up there, stuff like that.

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Well, I mean there are in that area. Yeah, I

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still haven't been where they were with.

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Yeah, right, I can understand how you might not want

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to when when you were up there were there other

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sounds that you heard that didn't really make sense either.

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No, this is this is the place I've been and

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nothing was out of place. Ever when I was there

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it was nice. Other times far as quiet, and it's beautiful,

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you know with the all the step waterfolos. And you

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know that's part of it too, is when that when

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the water was up like that, it's pretty loud coming

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off from that one side. The water is all the

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all the steps that it's coming down, the rushing water

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so on that on that one side. And you know,

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the times I've been there, I would have been near

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that and I would have you know, so I didn't

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really hear anything when I was in there.

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Gotcha. When you were hearing the sounds at the different times,

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how did those sounds affect you.

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Fear. I'm not going to talk about myself too much,

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but I was. I used to be in the military,

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and I did serve in Iraq, and I did almost die,

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and I felt the fear of that long that and

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this was this close to that or worse. I don't

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know why. Some of it was maybe not being able

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to have my keys. The other part of it was

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it was enough vocalizations that I had time to think

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about it. And listen to it and realized that this

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isn't some kids throwing rocks at me from the woods,

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so that I just remember, I remember the fear watching

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over me when they first started, and I listened to

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it for a split second.

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Thank you for sharing about your service, and also thank

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you for your service. Were is there any time when

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when you heard those noises those sounds did they affect

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any physical part of your body at all?

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No? No, I didn't have anything like that. I was,

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I was, yeah, I think everything was on just it

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was just I was just wondering what this was, and

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I didn't know if I was in danger or not,

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and so I was. I never did make an aggressive

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move towards me other than the rocks, but I didn't

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want to see or find out. I got out there

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pretty down the hill pretty fast because I just didn't

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know what I was doing with.

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It's really interesting in situations like this, you always I

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always wonder if if you had been up there, and

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if you hadn't done the things with the rocks initially,

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if the same response would have happened. And I'm sure

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you probably think same thing, or I.

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Thought I thought of everything. That's why I tell up

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at the story. That's why it's over. But I did

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do this. I did try to do something, and it's

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part of the story that but I don't know if

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it caused it to happen or not. But it's strange

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that I've never done anything like that before. The one

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time I do it, something happens. I don't I feel

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like it is. I feel like it caused a reaction

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of some time, but I don't know.

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You mentioned it really quickly that there was some weird

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stuff that you've you've found up there, and so you

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mentioned you found a plate with dog vertebrate on the

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plate in a circle. Is that correct?

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Right, yeah, right, there's That's the strange thing, and almost

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I don't know what it is. There was a dog

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that day, the day that it happened, there was a

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dog that it looked like somebody had dupped or something.

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It was just a skeleton. There was no flesh, but

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it was a large dog, or at least the best

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I could tell. And you know, it was a large dog,

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full skeleton, like somebody had just stomped there or something.

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Because anyway, this like a time I went back, there

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was plates sitting on a rock. I thought it was

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a stop, but as a rock with the vertebrae arranged

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in a circle.

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So that was the second time that you went yeah.

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Yeah, when when i the vertebrae had been moved from

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across the road to onto a plate in the on

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the edge of the woods, on the right side of

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the room, the other side of the room.

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Okay, that's really interesting. So the first time, and so.

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Somebody had moved it. Somebody had moved somebody had gathered

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up them vertebrae and put them on a plate across

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the road at the edge of the woods, on a

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sitting on a rock.

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The initial time, the first time you went up there,

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where was the skeleton in relation to where the noises

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were coming out from the woods.

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It was not too far. It was I don't remember exactly.

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I know it was ahead of my truck because we

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found it when we were looking for the keys, so

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we were off the road a little bit. I'm thinking,

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you know that maybe they had slung on my pocket

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and rolled down the hill a little bit or something,

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and that's where we found this dog. It was it

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was on the side of the like someone had thrown it,

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just like pulled over and just thrown the dog out

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or else. It died there naturally, but it didn't look naturally.

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There was other trash around and it just looked like domps.

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It was a full skeleton. But then too just you know,

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just a couple or lately someone had moved it and

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put put on a plate in a circle and across

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the road. They hadn't moved the dog, they just took

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the vertebrae and it ranged them in a circle and

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put them on the edge of the woods on a

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rock on a plate. That wasn't it close? Yeah, I

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was close. I was at the base of where I

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had my encounter.

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That's really interesting.

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I don't know if somebody's out there missing with them,

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or we're trying to communicate or work out from you two.

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I've seen things similar to that, or they can see

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if it's been rearranged. When I first saw it, I

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didn't think that, but then later I thought, I was like, wait,

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I've seen that kind of stuff. It was strange. It

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was just caught first time. When I first saw it

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was like, that's strange, Well would anybody do that? But

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who know, there's there's stuff out there. I mean, you know,

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it's it's applay for you know, there's all kinds of

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stuff going on there or around here. Crazy.

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So was it a throwaway plate or was it like

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an ornate plate that you wouldn't throw away.

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Yeah, it's a glass plate.

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Last plate, okay, And approximately how many vertebrae were on

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the plate in order to form the circle?

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Three or three or four? Maybe I'd have to look

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it was actually pictures.

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You have pictures of this, well, I have.

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A picture of it now. I was checking it out

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this morning. I don't want to say anything. It's not

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like right because my my, my memory had it. There's

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so many on there, and I went and checked it

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this morning and they were in a more of a

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jump old part and there's about three or four on there.

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But I couldn't really see any signs of any there's

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leaves on it, and I didn't see any signs of

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anybody messling with it, right like, I don't know. The

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leaves are falling pretty fast right now. I don't know.

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But I couldn't see any sign of anybody being around there.

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Oh so you went back up there to look at

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it again? Yeah, okay, see anybody.

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I hadn't messed with it, and I can't really tell.

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I can't really be sure because you know, I just can't.

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I just there's too much. There was too much going

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on in my mind. Even the second time I went

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up there, when my dogs were afraid, I was afraid.

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I don't know. There was something about this thing that

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just scares me. I don't even want to be around

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that area anymore. I went in there today and it

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was creepy, and I'm like, no, no, I stay out

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of here.

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I appreciate you talking about this because I I mean,

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I'll be honest, if there's anyone that has never wanted

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to talk about what they experienced, I mean, you definitely are.

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This isn't something that you're wanting to do, but you

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are getting it out there, and I appreciate that.

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It messed with my hand a lot, is fruit. It

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scared me so bad, and I don't know, I think it.

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Maybe it was because I was paying attention to the

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subject or whatever that I just felt like somebody should

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know about it. I used to think that I would

459
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.519
like to do some of that kind of stuff. You know,

460
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.000
I'm a musician, and I'm like, I'm gonna take my

461
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.720
guitar out there. I'm just gonna play, you know, because

462
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.240
I hear stories, you know, just playing music up there,

463
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.599
and now I'm just like, oh no, I don't. I

464
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.200
don't know if I want anything to.

465
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:39.359
Do, Yeah, I would.

466
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:41.039
It's scary.

467
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.640
I would say, if you don't want to have stuff happen,

468
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.319
I probably wouldn't recommend you go out there with your

469
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:51.599
guitar and start singing, because I've experienced in Oregon a

470
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.000
gentleman playing guitar in the woods and stuff totally happened

471
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:55.960
and it was intense.

472
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.480
So I mean, it's gonna like if some they hear

473
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.160
and you know, I can tell you a story I

474
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.319
don't have, Like I grew up in the woods. I

475
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:12.160
grew up in the the middle of nowhere and in

476
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.480
the Deep South, and I never had an experience like this.

477
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:19.839
I heard stories, but I just don't, you know, I don't.

478
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.640
I don't know if it's you open your mind to

479
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.720
it and then it happens, or I don't understand it.

480
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:30.440
I don't really know, because I've had friends tell me,

481
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.880
you know, things, and they think they might have an

482
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.599
experience or something like that, but I've never had anything

483
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:43.599
until after I studied it and did that rock clocking

484
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:45.599
and somehow I don't know.

485
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.960
Were Is there any other things that were like that,

486
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.759
the plate was out of place? Was there anything else

487
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:58.079
up there that you noticed that just was kind of off,

488
00:29:58.279 --> 00:29:59.200
shouldn't have been there.

489
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.000
No, not really that The way the plates are is

490
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.799
just on the edge of private versus federal land. There's

491
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.640
been people out there burning trash, not in the not

492
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.720
in the federal land, just out and on the edge

493
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.880
of it. Where wherever my experience happened, it was in

494
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:22.119
frederal Land, which is clean, very well taken like. It's

495
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:27.799
a very well maintained area. It's not this crazy wilderness.

496
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.359
Big for a society will be right back after these messages.

497
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.559
It's just I mean, there's plenty of people who live

498
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.599
around here, right but I don't know any time to

499
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.920
get the mountains around here, it feels feels like you

500
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.200
are I don't know, I didn't really notice anything.

501
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.200
The next question I'm going I'm going to say you carefully.

502
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:05.799
You mentioned that you are talking to a researcher. Already,

503
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.559
we're not going to say who it is or where

504
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.440
this area is. But when you talk to the researcher,

505
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:16.160
what was their reaction to you when you mentioned where

506
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.079
the location is, because I'm sure you mentioned where the

507
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:20.799
location is to whoever it is.

508
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:27.400
Well, yeah, their reaction is is because there's there's reports

509
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.799
that I know about that anybody can find out about.

510
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.519
I'm not going to give it to the location. But

511
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.759
from my location, there are reports from where this happened.

512
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:43.319
There are reports within there's a cluster reports within ten miles,

513
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:50.359
eight miles, there's I'm basically surrounded by reports. As far

514
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.039
as that goes. The researcher does believe that there's something

515
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.799
going on in that area because of some of their research,

516
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:02.240
the things that they've had. It wasn't in their area

517
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:08.960
or where they're researching it. It was just close enough, right, Wow,

518
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.319
that they believe that there's something out there. But yeah,

519
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.440
I just don't want to talk about anybody that I

520
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.559
don't have permission to or anything like that. Oh absolutely, yeah,

521
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.160
Well I didn't do that whatever they're going to do.

522
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.279
But they do believe there's something going on there.

523
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:31.200
But oh, I sorry, I've got I've almost forgot to

524
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:31.599
ask this.

525
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:32.440
And uh.

526
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.839
So after after you had this happen a few weeks ago,

527
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.000
did anything weird happen at your home or did you

528
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.920
start having any really intense dreams before.

529
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.200
Okay, this is the part I don't want to talk about.

530
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.960
Okay, and we can leave it there. That's fine, No, I.

531
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.839
Yeah, I guess what I mean is I don't you know,

532
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:05.039
I don't I had a I saw two UFOs right

533
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.799
before it happened, like within a week, one one UFO

534
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.720
one night, and a week later another one, and then

535
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.519
a couple of weeks later this happens. So I had

536
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.880
three crazy things happened to me, all in a short

537
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.599
amount of time, and I don't really know how. I

538
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.440
don't want to sound crazy. I don't want to anything,

539
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.039
so I'm just like, I know what I saw. I

540
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.160
don't know what happened, but it's just it's strange from

541
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.519
the same area. One of them flew right over it, wow.

542
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.759
The other one was a little fucking down the ridge,

543
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.839
and one was crazy, and one was just a unexplained light.

544
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.160
I mean, you know, it's just a light that flew

545
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.480
over the ridge and over my house and then straight up.

546
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.319
And when it was straight up, I'm like, okay, that's

547
00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.880
not that's not right, and it disappeared. The second one

548
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.799
was much more enchance and crazier, and it came straight

549
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.719
from that area. I don't know what to think about

550
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:12.000
that subject because I'm not I just can't. And I

551
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.320
have my own ideas of what these are, you know,

552
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.039
I don't I don't know if I can. Yeah, I

553
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:23.320
don't know. I don't know. The UFO thing will not

554
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.559
make me sound crazy, so I don't even Yeah.

555
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:32.360
So and building no one everyone here is definitely on

556
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.599
your side. And I have experienced that as well. I mean,

557
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.840
it doesn't make sense, absolutely not.

558
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.280
Yeah, you know, Yeah, here's the thing. It's just that

559
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.880
when either of these things happened, my phone, Well, when

560
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.480
the UFO, I didn't have my phone, but I went

561
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.599
and got my phone, if anyone's too late. And when

562
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.360
this happened, you know, when I got the rocks for

563
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.199
I mean I had my phone. I used my phone

564
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.519
to call somebody use my phone too. I was scared.

565
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:07.480
And so I don't have like visual evidence the one UFO.

566
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.519
If I had gotten visual evidence, it would be it

567
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:16.159
would have been crazy. I mean, you know, I've looked

568
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.280
online to see something similar and I can't find something.

569
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.719
It was crazy, and I don't know how to explain it.

570
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.880
I don't. I mean, I can explain it. I can

571
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.760
talk about it, but it makes me sound crazy to

572
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.559
say it. But you know, if you want to hear it,

573
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.760
i'll tell you. I don't. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

574
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.079
I guess it doesn't really matter.

575
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.360
No, I mean, whatever you want to share, I am.

576
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.440
I am here to listen for sure.

577
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.519
Okay, Well I'll just tell her real quick. Just didn't

578
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.639
shorty kail. It didn't scare me. It just made me.

579
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.639
I kind of tranced out and just stared at it.

580
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.679
I don't know, I just couldn't believe that I was

581
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.800
looking at figure out what I was looking at. And

582
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.159
then the time I got out of it and then

583
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:08.480
got my phone, it had pretty much gone away. But

584
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.400
it was. It was just right above the mountains, and

585
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.840
it was about a long line of blue lights. That's

586
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.239
the way I saw it, because I was playing guitar

587
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.519
outside and I stepped out in my backyard away from

588
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.320
my porch light, and I could see like they were

589
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.639
they weren't protruding out. The lights weren't like weren't out protruding,

590
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.039
weren't shining out. It was more like shiny inward into

591
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.079
whatever this was. And there was blue, just a long

592
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.639
line of blue blue lights, like as, oh, this is

593
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.119
what the problem is. How big it was it was

594
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.239
It was every bit two football feels a long one

595
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.440
football fielding. I don't even know how to say how

596
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:56.400
long it was. And you could see in between what

597
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:03.039
looked like windows and metallic something so look a long,

598
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:10.480
long ship of some sort. And it just moved across

599
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.320
the sky flower than a plain wood maybe like a helicopter.

600
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.639
And it flew over my neighbor's house and kind of

601
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.960
turned a little bit and just went up. And when

602
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.599
it when it turned, I could it turned the lights

603
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:29.320
away from me, like towards the up towards the sky,

604
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.079
I guess, and I could see more of a rounded

605
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:36.239
bottom and dark no lights at all. It's a dark

606
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:41.440
silhouette and just kind of descended up into the clouds.

607
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.920
There was something. There was a few clouds around me.

608
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.000
It went straight through a cloud and out of sight.

609
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.079
But the size of it is just unreal. I just

610
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.239
don't know how. I don't know how to even process

611
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.719
what it was. It wasn't lights, It was a ship

612
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:03.639
of some kind. So yeah, that's it. It's incredible crazy,

613
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.559
it's crazy, and that's clewe right over where that issue

614
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.840
was gotcha, but I don't. I don't. I can't put

615
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.920
it together. I don't know. So strange that it happened, and

616
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.960
it all happened like within you know, a short amount

617
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.559
of time, same area. I can see why people say

618
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.639
that there's a connection maybe, though I don't know right right,

619
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:30.519
I don't know if I can get there or not

620
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:31.880
for where I believe there is or not.

621
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.360
I want to say thank you for spending your time.

622
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.800
There's just a few more more questions, and there's there's

623
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.519
what I'm going to ask, and you know then I

624
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.760
won't really push a lot after it. But so after

625
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:49.840
you had your your encounter with with the what we

626
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:54.000
think we're bigfoot, did you did you start to have

627
00:38:54.039 --> 00:39:00.840
any other things happen around your home or any vivid

628
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.880
dreams or anything like that.

629
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.000
I had a dream about about the noises and all that,

630
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.119
but just once. It's not really anything. I don't drink,

631
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:18.239
I don't. Everything's pretty normal. I've been I've been looking

632
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.719
out that way. I mean, I can't really I don't

633
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.239
know if i'd ever hear anything out there or not,

634
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.559
because there's there's some catafags between me and you know

635
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:31.039
where it happened, and you know, there's just noise other

636
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:36.280
animaloids and stuff that's scared animals, and I don't yeah,

637
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.559
I don't think. I can't think of anything. Nothing really happened.

638
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.480
It's been pretty normal. That's great.

639
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.280
I checked just because sometimes I don't know if it's

640
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:50.039
a trend or it's just a thing I always I've

641
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.119
started to check on in the last month or so,

642
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.840
just to kind of get more data on it. It's

643
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.719
just very interesting how it can happen.

644
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:04.039
Sometimes the a phototing I was told the one person too,

645
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:10.119
and that person was talking. I'm not sure it happened,

646
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.280
but anyway, apparently I was not the only one that's

647
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.559
seen it. Someone else had seen it on a different night,

648
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:19.719
very similar to the same thing, in the same area.

649
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.280
So it wasn't the same, but it was the same

650
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:29.480
type of citing, the same description, almost the same except

651
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.159
for a few small details. I did find somebody else

652
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:38.320
that had seen something like that several years ago in

653
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.760
between now, and it made me feel a little better.

654
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.840
But I'm still like, I don't know, I don't know

655
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:50.559
what it is. I don't you know, there's there's there's

656
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:55.400
military training or you know, everywhere and you know, I've

657
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.159
seen military helicopters training, which I used to be in

658
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.719
the military. It doesn't that's what happens. You know, they

659
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:08.559
train away from where we are at, so it doesn't

660
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.159
bother me if I see military, you know, training or

661
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:15.360
doing something there in that area too, but not on

662
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.559
the ground, I don't think. I just see helicopters a

663
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:20.800
lot military helicopters.

664
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.639
Gotcha, But.

665
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.480
I don't know, Bill, I have no clue.

666
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:31.360
I appreciate you taking the time to talk this afternoon

667
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.639
before we end out our time here today. Were there

668
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.440
any other things that you had wanted to share that

669
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.400
you haven't been able to share yet.

670
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.360
No, I'm probably there's probably something I'm leaving out or forgetting.

671
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.559
But you know, this has been a whirl wind as

672
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.880
far as that goes, because it's taken me a little

673
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.400
bit to get over it, and being in the woods

674
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:55.880
is a big part of my life and I don't

675
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:57.519
want to give it up. And where I met it

676
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.880
is beautiful, and so I'm trying to deal with that.

677
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.239
But not that I can think of. I think that's

678
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.920
pretty much what I everything. All the pertinent details.

679
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.159
Yeah, do you feel it's important to share what's happened

680
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:18.000
to you, like how you're talking to me today, Is

681
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.960
that something you would recommend other people to do or

682
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:22.719
I would?

683
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.719
I would exactly. For the reason why I told that

684
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.760
UFO story was when I heard someone else say that

685
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:31.760
they had seen the same thing. It made me feel

686
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.840
less crazy. It made me feel better. And as far

687
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:41.599
as some you know, people out here researching or trying

688
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.480
to find out the truth, every little bit of information,

689
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.199
you don't know what it's going to lead to or

690
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.840
what could happen, and it could turn into, you know,

691
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.360
being the little clue that gets it started to discover

692
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.079
you and some answers some of that stuff. I just

693
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.159
believe that we as humans don't know everything thing and

694
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.639
the stuff about our world that we're not quite privy

695
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:09.840
to yet. And I think people just yeah, that's all

696
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.559
I really wanted to say. I believe it's important ton't

697
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.079
share it, to share the stuff. So so if there's patterns,

698
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if there's if it just even if it just helps

699
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somebody where they don't, they feel a little luck, a

700
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.719
little less crazy. If something happened, it did help me

701
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.639
that there's someone else had seen something similar, because I

702
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:33.239
was like, I can't I didn't even want to tell

703
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.679
a story because I got these two stories that are crazy.

704
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:41.119
All happened back to back, and I'm like, you people

705
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:46.119
are going to think I'm crazy, but that's what happened.

706
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I think it's important.

707
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Thank you for coming for coming forward with with what happened.

708
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You are always welcome, more than welcome. If you, you know,

709
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.000
need to ask any questions or you want a touch

710
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.719
base at a later time, you can now reach out

711
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And yeah, I mean hope of the future. Yeah goes well,

712
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especially with the researcher.

713
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if I want to

714
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.280
be looking for things to happen, but if something does happened,

715
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.320
I let you know, all right, But you know because

716
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.400
I'm I'm out here all the time, but I just

717
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.360
don't Yeah, I'm trying to struggle with myself, like to

718
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.239
just like see what I want to do with it,

719
00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:29.679
because it stays on your mind and you want to,

720
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.079
you want to. I don't know. I never thought, you know,

721
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that I might research, but then I was thinking about it.

722
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:41.280
Now I'm thinking I'm scared of it. But now I'm like, well,

723
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maybe I do want to. I don't know, We'll see

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what happens.

725
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.679
Absolutely well either way. Feel free definitely to keep in

726
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.559
touch and Bill thanks again for coming on the show today.

727
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Yeah, thanks so much for letting me come on. I

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