Something else lived on Grandfather's Farm!

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Welcome to the big for Society podcast. In this episode, I talked to

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Rove and Brenda from the Bigfoot Finders
about their history of Bigfoot encounters in Tennessee

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and the unique way they're experiencing them
today. If you've experienced something similar to

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what the Bigfoot Finders have or have
more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in

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the same area, please reach out
to me immediately after this episode. If

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you've had an encounter and you'd like
to be on the show, please contact

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me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot
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extra episodes. A right Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to

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Roven and Brenda Rhodes. They reached
out to me about how they've experienced some

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really interesting things down in Tennessee over
the years. We're gonna hand it right

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over to Rove and Brenda. Sure, thank you so much. First of

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all, usually it takes most people
that are really into crypt it's had something

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happen in their childhood teenage years,
and that was the case with me situation.

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My grandfather had a farm I live
in West Tennessee now, but he

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was in Middle Tennessee, right in
the exact geographic center of the state,

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a place called Las Cassis, Tennessee, right outside of Murphysboro. And my

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goal in life was to spend all
my life with my grandfather as much as

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I positively could. My parents felt
I needed to attend this thing called school,

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so they kind of rell me in
sometimes, but I spent at least

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every third weekend, every Christmas break, every Thanksgiving break, and every summer

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with my grandfather at his home from
the time I was really old enough to

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walk, from the time I was
in school, but before then, I

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just stayed with him all the time
that I could. And I love my

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grandfather dearly. His farm was surrounded
by hundreds of other acres of land,

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and really the people didn't either they
didn't care if we got over on them,

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or they didn't know. But as
long as we respected the property,

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my grandfather didn't care. And so
me and my friends would just wander in

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that last cases area with just woods, and you know, did a lot

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of hunting, did a lot of
fishing up and down the east fork of

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the Stones River. And I remember, even as a young child on my

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grandfather out in my grandfather's yard,
and we would hear what I know now

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to be wood knocks, but we
didn't know what it was. We had

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no idea, and I'd always ask
him, I say, Pop, what's

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that. They must be building a
barn over there, but it would always

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be at like dusk dark, and
so there was you know that, we

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knew that there was no power over
in those woods, no way anybody had

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electricity, and so therefore they couldn't
possibly be building a barn. My friend

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from down the street, he'd just
look at me and shake his head.

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We were in maybe second third grade, but he was already all through those

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woods and he said, there's no
barn over there. Nobody's building anything.

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But we would hear the wood knocks. You fast forward a little bit and

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I was either twelve or thirteen.
I normally say thirteen, but I'm not

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one hundred percent for sure. At
my grandfather's I'd taken up deer hunting,

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and my grandfather was my best friend. He would do anything for me.

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He knew that I really enjoyed fishing, and so because of that, he

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had dug me a pond on the
back of his property. Now, when

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I say he had one hundred acres, it was split up into two parcels.

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And the parcel he lived on was
about thirty nine acres and the other

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one was sixty one and it was
at the end of the road. And

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so just due to proximity and not
liking to walk in the dark and stuff

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like that, I would always go
deer hunting on the land that was connected

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to his home. He had dug
that pond, and so would I called

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it scouting, but I just instead
of it before deer season. I never

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took my deer rifle. I just
take a twenty gauge shotgun and go back

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there in the fall and just see
what I could see before deer season.

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And it was one particular day,
probably in eighty one or eighty two,

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and I had went back. He
would go out his back gate and through

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some woods, through about a million
ticks and cedar trees, and come to

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a logging trail and go down that
logging trail through three hundred yards and you

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walk out into what we called his
sage grass field on his property was very

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narrow and deep, and so the
sage grass field was on the back side

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of his property and I had went
back there like I always do, probably

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in September. I would think,
I remember some of the leaves were maybe

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starting to change, but not much. And as I went back there,

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I just remember the day was many
times we see him now and it's not

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totally quiet, but it was just
very surreal. It was like there was

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something off about the day, is
the only way I can explain it.

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And on the pond that he had
dug for me in the middle of the

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field, I stepped up on that
pond. I would always walk around that

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pond where I could get an elevated
view of what was going on because the

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sage grass was maybe two and a
half three feet high. In this particular

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day, I got to the far
end of the pond or the pond bank.

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There was never any water into a
mountain anything, by the way,

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because the only one hundred acres in
Rutford County that would not hold water.

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But I get to the end of
it and I looked down to the right

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hand side of the far end of
the field, which was maybe less than

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one hundred yards away. And I
always checked that in out really good because

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my deer stand was there, and
it was when they had dug the pond,

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they had cleared off the far end. Everything had been pushed away except

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for about eight big trees, and
it was probably eighty five yards across the

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field at that point. There was
a fence line there, and there was

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these big eight trees, and instead
of being tall sage grass there, there

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was maybe three or four inch grass
that that had just sprouted back up where

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it had been bulldozed off. And
so I looked down there, and something

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looks funny out of the right hand
side of that field. It was the

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way I explained it to people,
is almost like I was looking through an

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intense heat or maybe if you're pumping
gas in the middle of the hot summertime,

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that wavy way that things look when
you look down at the gas pump

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and the heat coming off of it
in the fumes. It looked like that.

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It almost looked like I was looking
through a heat. And I remember

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rubbing my eye because I thought that
there was something in my eye. But

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instead I see somebody start to walk
out of that corner of the field,

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and my first thought was just oh
no, I'm nobody else is supposed to

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be hunting on my grandfather. So
I'm going to have to tell them to

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leave, And as it began to
step out, I began my second thought.

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The first thing I saw that looked
unnatural was not it was all brown,

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but I thought, that's brown cover
alls in brown boots, even though

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it was a little warm for that, a brown toboggan brown gloves, which

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I thought was strange. But the
first thing it looked awkward to me was

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the gate. It was how this
thing was walking as it stepped out from

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under the shade and took two or
three steps out, going very slow,

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almost methodical, and I've always felt
that it wanted to let me see it.

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I've always felt it was intentional.
But as it did, I noticed

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that its legs, it didn't walk
right. Its legs never locked completely.

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It was almost like it was scooting. Its arms were exceptionally long, and

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it was exceptionally big, and by
exceptionally big, probably between seven and seven

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and a half feet tall based on
how tall it looked when it walked right

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under my deer stand. But I'm
looking at it, and then I realized

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as it steps out out of the
shade, probably about three point thirty in

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the afternoon, a windy day,
it steps out of the shade, and

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it had it know I was there. The wind was blowing straight from me

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to it as well. But I
began to see that the sun listened on

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its hair, and for some reason
I thought hair and not fur, but

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just hair. Just this thing looked
nothing like a bear. People that say

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that or just they've never seen one. It looked very human, but it

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was just unhuman. I remember the
head arched forward in an unusual way,

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and it was almost like the bend
in the neck was It didn't really have

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much of a neck, but its
head bent forward from a lower vertebrae than

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a human would, so its whole
body from somewhere between the shoulder blades was

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just slanted at about a forty five
degree angle, and it was lurching forward,

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but it was walking upright, long
arms, almost exaggerated swings of the

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arms. And then as it got
out into the sun and took those few

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steps, I remember it swung its
shoulders and looked directly at me. It

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almost seemed like it shoulder shifted too, because it didn't just turn its head.

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It wasn't all the turn of the
neck, but it was like those

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shoulders just shifted. It looked straight
at me, but it never stopped walking

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in the direction it was walking to
the other side of the field. And

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when this thing looked at me,
I just I don't know how to explain

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it, and I don't claim it
was mind speak, but what I do

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tell people is I felt this overwhelming
and press of don't mess with me,

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and I won't mess with you.
Mess with me, and you will regret

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it. And it took about two
or three steps as it continued to look

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at me. It wasn't looking the
direction it was going, but it was

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walking. And then it turned its
body and head straight back the way it

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was going, which was falling directly
under that fence row, and just kept

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right on walking. It just it
seemed like that it was just saying,

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hey, I'm in charge here,
don't mess with me, and you'll be

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all right. But I've always felt
it it meant to reveal itself. I'm

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standing there on the bank of that
pond. I've got my twenty gage shotgun

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with one it's a single shot,
it's got one quail load in it,

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and I've got two more quail looad
in my hunter's jacket, and that's all

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I've got with me, and I'm
holding that gun into forty five degree angle

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pointed upward, and I'm looking at
this thing. And I don't even tell

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people. I don't even feel like
I breathed, because I was just frozen.

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Whether it was fear or just frozen
some way, I don't know.

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But I just remember hearing my heart
beat in my vein, in my neck

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and just watching this thing. And
I didn't even move my head. I

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just moved my eyes until it walked
completely across that eighty or eighty five yard

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wide field and out of sight.
The moment it got out of sight,

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my thought process was very simple,
and that was, hey, either I

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take off running because we were going
to crisscross if it followed that fence row

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didn't cross any fences and then followed
another logging trail. I was going to

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crisscross with this thing on my way
back to my grandfather's. Or I could

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run in the direction that it came
and hope it just wasn't sitting there waiting

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on me, and go circle around
and go back home the other way.

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So I remember thinking for just a
split second as soon as it went out

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of sight, but I thought,
I'm going to go for it. So

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I took off, running as fast
as I could, just as fast as

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I could with that shotgun, back
the way that I came, and I

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thought it was There were no videos
on YouTube, there was nothing. There

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was very little information about bigfoot,
and I didn't know that were as fast

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as I know there are now.
But I'm thinking I can outrun this thing,

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and so I took off back towards
my grandfather's house as fast as I

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could, and I could just see
it stepping out of that logging trail and

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intersecting me because the two trails intersected, so I didn't even look. I

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didn't even look to the right or
to the left when I ran down through

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there. I just ran as fast
as I could, probably close to half

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a mile maybe a third of a
mile home, and went in the door,

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just panting prayer. And they said, what's wrong? And I had

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heard a bigfoot? And I told
them I said, I I think I

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saw a big foot back there,
and my grandfather belied me. I think

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he knew that we're out there.
And my grandmother said, all of a

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sudden, you just saw slew foot
or old she had a name for it,

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but she believed me. And I
never really I told a friend about

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it, I didn't tell a whole
lot of people about it. Became somewhat

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interested in the subject. That same
fall, I was back there in that

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same field. Now I would not
even though that happened in the daytime,

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my dear hunting going back there at
night, early in the morning or late

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eat coming home late and evening was
over. From that point forward, I

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thought, I'm not going back in
those woods unless I have my Marlin thirty

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thirty and it's completely loaded. I'm
not going back in those woods unless I

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can see everything, unless it's daylight. And I pretty much quit hunting.

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But I went back a few more
times, so that same fall, I

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go back there to the same field. A little bit later on in the

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year, it is dear season.
I have my Marlin thirty thirty, it's

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loaded, it's got one in the
chamber. And as I get back close

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to the field, probably one hundred
yards from it, I can hear what

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I thought was two men talking,
but it was very loud and very boisterous,

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sounded like it was coming from massive
lungs, And as I got closer

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to the field, I realized that
whoever was talking they weren't on some adjoining

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property. They were right there beyond
the woodline in that field. And I

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realized too, I thought that it
was just maybe it was out in the

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woods. There was an echo.
I'm like, why can't I understand them?

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And as I said and listened,
I thought, they're talking in a

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foreign language. They're talking in Chinese, is what I thought at the time.

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I said, And they sounded big
too. They just sounded like two.

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I'm like, what in the world
are two big Chinese guys doing out

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here in the woods on my grandfather's
property. And I was just confused.

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I never forgot that day, did
not know that was the samurai chatter until

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I heard the Sierra sounds later on
and heard I think it was M.

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K. Davis big put in a
shed or something like that, and I'm

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like, parts of that sounded just
like, but it was a distinct language

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that I heard. Never made the
connection, didn't know what it was.

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I was just confused. And anyhow, that kind of ended that. So

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if you fast forward maybe three years, I was either sixteen or seventeen,

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think I was seventeen, and this
is quite the experience here. And it

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happened within three miles of my grandfather's
farm. But this when I had a

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friend with me. He had just
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fourteen foot b bottom boat, and
we decided to put that boat in on

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the east fork of the Stone River
in Las Casas, Tennessee. And guys,

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if you know where I'm talking about, there's the whole place has changed

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now, but the mill pond that
was there was Brown's mill. Brown's mill

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has collapsed. There's been a lot
of building around there. But anyhow,

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this was in April of eighty six, and we decided to go down the

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river smallmouth bass fishing, and he
says, hey, let's just make a

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weekend out of it. So we
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night there and come home on Sunday. So the first night we put the

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boat in, and if you're familiar
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of the river, you can almost
you can wage most of it now,

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but back then, before the mill
collapsed, you couldn't. And so we

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float the boat down the river's a
little higher than normal, it's up maybe

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a foot, and float down to
a gravel bar that I'm aware of It's

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about a mile and a half down
the river there from the bridge, and

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we set up camp and the guy
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He was just an amazing guy.
He was a good friend at the

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time, but he was much older. He was I think twenty nine.

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He was married and lived next door
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And we set up camp. He
started a fire. He could He

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was really good at just the outdoors, everything outdoors. I just like a

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fish. Mainly I hunted a lot, but I loved to fish. And

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I won't give his name if I
don't let it slip out of respect.

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But this affected him in a very
deep way. That night, we were

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sitting there on the gravel bar and
we were just we had the fire going

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and we were just looking at the
water. It was really chilly. I

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normally wouldn't have wanted to camp out
with it that cold, but we just

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decided to make a weekend of it. And he looks at me. It's

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probably about nine thirty nine or nine
thirty and he says, and he had

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a very deep voice, he said, it sure has gotten quiet outside.

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And within ten seconds of him saying
it sure has gotten quiet outside. It

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literally sounded like a bomb hit the
water right upstream from us. Just words

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cannot describe the impact that whatever had
just hit the water had. It wasn't

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something being thrown in the water.
It was honestly, it sounded like something

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was dropped in the water from a
high altitude. And so my friend and

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I we did not get up.
We launched to our feet, landed on

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our feet, shaking. It was
like dead quiet out there. He says,

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it sure has gotten quiet. And
then here this massive splash from right

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outside of our fire's light. So
we're probably seventy five feet away from where

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this happened, and probably fifty feet
of this or so maybe sixty seventy feet

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of this is gravel bar, and
we know which direction it came from.

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And so he grabbed his flashlight,
which was it wasn't much of a flashlight,

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but it was all we had,
and he grabbed it and we start

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making our way down the gravel bar. I'm just looking over his shoulder,

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and we go to the end where
we know this thing hit, something hit

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the water, and we look out
and the first thing that you can see

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is these massive red eyes. When
I say massive I'm talking unnaturally huge,

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the size of silver dollars, and
they were solid red. They were like

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a bright red. And he put
his light on it, but they were

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almost what I would call self illuminating. These eyes were like they were so

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big, but I would not my
brain would not allow me to comprehend the

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fact that they were eyes. So
I'm making all kinds of excuses in my

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mind, and then I think,
what could it be? It was These

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eyes were probably six inches apart,
and we were just trembling and shaking.

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And my friend who's with me,
who I've seen do things that were absolutely

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fearless that I was afraid to do. He starts saying, it's a monster.

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It's a monster. It's a monster. And I told him, I

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said, it can be a monster. And I knew that cows came down

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to that area to get water,
and I said, it's probably a cow

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that just fell in the water.
But by that time, we could see,

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not just because his flashlight was really
weak, but we could see not

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just see not just the eyes loin, but we could see the silhouette of

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the head, and the head was
so big. And remember, at that

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time, no YouTube know anything,
no internet had no idea bigfoot got in

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the water. Nothing, And my
friend just kept saying, it's a monster,

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it's a monster. And he was
out front, he was maybe three

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feet in front of me, and
I was just peaking over his shoulder.

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He had the flashlight. He was
right at the corner of the water,

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and this thing was no more than
twenty twenty five feet out in the water,

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past the edge of the gravel bar. And I know the water there

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was seven feet deep or so at
the time, with the river up like

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it was, and this thing was
just looking at us. It just looks

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at us. And my friend keeps
saying it's a he's cursing, it's a

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monster. It's a monster. And
I told him, I said, it

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just can't be. And then it
tilted his head. It's like it tilted

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its head to the right and to
the left, both of them, just

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slowly. It tilted its head and
then it straightened its head up and then

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it tilted its head to the other
side. And it was like, I

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felt like, whatever this thing is, it's examining us as the light as

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we begin to adapt to the lighting
and see a little bit better. With

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his really bad flashlight, you could
see the silhouette of a head, and

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there was at least fourteen sixteen inches
of head that was sticking out of the

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water, and the eyes were just
right above water level, so probably its

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mouth and its lips were right on
the water. And still there was maybe

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sixteen, maybe even eighteen inches a
head sticking up. This thing's head was

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just absolutely ginormous, and we could
start to make out the brow ridge and

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maybe the nose you could see a
little, but you couldn't see everything.

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And it just stared at us,
and we watched it for probably probably two

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and a half minutes right there,
and we were just My friend was just

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shaking. He was shaking, and
he was far braver than me. I

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was far dumber than him, but
I was in denial. I was just

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simply, it can't be. There's
God a biological explanation for this. Somebody's

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prankness. I don't know what this
is. And then the strangest thing happened.

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It pushes out toward the center of
the river, not all the way

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to the center, but it pushes
out toward the center, and it starts

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to go downstream toward where we're camp, towards where the fire is, and

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it goes in this zigzag pattern super
fast, much faster than the current.

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The river was up, the current
was moving. This thing is far exceeding

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the speed of the current. But
immediately I thought, this looks like I

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do if I'm in three and a
half feet of water and I'm using my

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feet to push off as a six
foot tall person. This thing looks like

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it is pushing or propelling itself on
the bottom. And I know how deep

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that water is, as it just
shifted back and forth, and the whole

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time it went downstream, so it
had probably seventy feet or so to go

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downstream to end up right in front
of our campfire. The whole time it

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went downstream, its head and eyes
were turned directly toward us. So it's

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moving, there's a zigzag pattern going
on, but it's looking directly at us,

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and it goes down really fast until
it comes to an abrupt stop directly

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in front of our campfire. And
now because of the light of the fire,

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we can see it better, we
can make out more, and we're

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those big massive eyes are still there, and it does the head tilt thing

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again, and we're just looking at
it, and we're both in shock and

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awe and fear. And my friend
looks at me and he says, we

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had forgot, totally forgotten. He
had his twelve gay shotgun there as loaded

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with a double lot buck and he
said, lend me my shotgun, and

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he handed me the light. He
said, hold this light, and he

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took his shotgun. And the moment
he pulls the shotgun up to his shoulder,

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this thing go massive bubbles, It
goes straight underwater. Blah blah blah

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blah, booh, just massive bubbles. It vanishes and we're just left there.

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Nobody says a word. I don't
even know if we were breathing.

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We were just like, what did
we just see? And we waited probably

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five minutes. We don't see anything. Nothing comes up. Nothing. We

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listened for it coming out of the
water. We listened for nothing. The

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river probably turned maybe fifty sixty yards
down. The river took a crook,

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but we and so I assume it
swam underwater and came up around the corner.

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But we never saw it again.
So we're standing there on the bank

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of that river and my friend we're
just shaking. We're just shaking. But

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yet he's more afraid than I am, because I'm just my brain's just not

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letting me perceive that. It's trying
to fit it into every logical box I

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can. And finally, after about
ten minutes, he says, it's got

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to come up for air. And
in retrospect, I believe it did somewhere

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we couldn't see it, but at
the time he said it's got to come

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up for air. And then he
said, we're going to stay up all

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night and we're going to take shifts
and we're going to watch for it because

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that thing could come out of the
water and kill us. If he would

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have used the term bigfoot, I
would have been I'd probably just laid down

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on the gravel bank and in the
fetal position and started to shake and cry.

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But he didn't. He just said
he just kept calling a monster,

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and he said it's going to come
up. It could kill us. And

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so I told him, I said
his name, and I said, I'm

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not staying up. I don't know
what we just saw, but it wasn't

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a monster, and I'm not staying
up because he said, we're staying up

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all night. And so the next
morning when I got up, he had

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been up all night with his shotgun
across his lap. He had kept the

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fire going all night, and instead
of spending the weekend their fishing, he

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said, let's load up, and
we loaded up, never set The only

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thing he said that morning about it
he said it never came up for air,

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and then we never talked about it
again. I don't think we said

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a word on the way home.
We left a day and a half early

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from our fishing trip. Never spoke
about it again. And this is one

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of the reasons that I do this, because I'm not saying that this was

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the motivating factor, but I know
that my friend had major PTSD on that

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trip home, and he did take
his life within two years of that event.

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He was dealing with other demons and
a good guy, but he had

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some problems, and so I'm not
contributing his suicide to that event, but

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I know that on the trip home
and our relationship was changed forever. We

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seldom talked after that. He moved
away and everything was different, and so

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that obviously years later, I get, you know, and I'm very technically

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challenged. Thank God for Brenda.
She's not a tech superstar, but she's

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the best we've got. But long
before we were together, we've just been

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married for a little over a year
now. Just celebrated our one year anniversary

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on March the third. Yah,
Brenda, I love you. But long

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before then, back in the mid
twenty fourteen fifteen, I finally graduated from

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my old flip phone, and I
started to look up things about bigfoot.

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And I never knew that anyone had
ever seen another bigfoot in the South other

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than me, and I thought it
was so strange, and I started to

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look it up, and I realized
there were all kinds of bigfoot and even

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other cryptids that had been seen here
in the South. And then I started

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to dig a little deeper, and
a lot of people are talking about these

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huge red eyes, massive glowing red
eyes, and I thought, wow,

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maybe that was a bigfoot that my
friend and I saw that night in the

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East Fork of the Stones River.
And it was close to my grandfather's house

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anyhow, And he kept saying monster. He could see it more than me,

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better than I was a little bit
behind him and shaking in my boots.

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But then I did some more research
and I found that these things are

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very good in the water. Listened
to Tim Coombo Baker talk about one swimming

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to a three hundred yards underwater in
the Mississippi, and I put two and

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two together and I said that he
was right. It was a monster,

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and at least it was a sasquatch. And it was massive. This one,

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the first one that I saw,
was seven to seven and a half

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feet tall. I've always guessed at
about three hundred and fifty pounds. This

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one, from the size of the
head, was three times bigger than that

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first one. It was just unbelievably
large. It's just it's hard to even

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wrap your brain around. But I
sat on this stuff for years and years.

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I'm fifty five years old now,
started to look on YouTube with my

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former i'll just say my former wife
and not really like me talking about this

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stuff, so I didn't. And
when Brenda and I got together, I

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said, hey, there's something I
got to tell you upfront. I saw

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bigfoot, a couple of bigfoot in
my life when I was younger, and

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I want to I'm interested in this
stuff, and I want to go out

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and see if we can find one
and actually photograph it. And she was

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like, yeah, let's do it. Sounds fun. She said she's always

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loved UFOs and the paranormal, and
it was just an amazing fit. But

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that's how I found out what my
second encounter actually was. And it's only

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been now a year and probably a
year and three weeks, maybe thirteen months

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since Brenda and I have been out
photographing these creatures, and we're just blown

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away, Jeremiah with the amount we've
been able to photograph in that time.

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So that's a little bit of the
story of my early childhood started in what

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I saw. It obviously kept me
very interested in this. That's incredible.

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Oh man, Revin, thank you
so much for sharing all that I do

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00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:12.920
before I asked some questions. In
all seriousness, I'm sorry that you did

411
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:19.799
lose such a good friend. Suicide
is a very serious topic. If anyone's

412
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listening, I'm going to have the
suicide hotline number in the show notes.

413
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.160
There's always someone to talk to you. It's a very important topic to me.

414
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:37.759
You're yeah, you're in your encounters
is some really incredible things. I

415
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.079
did have a few questions that I
wrote down along the way the wavy figure

416
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:48.240
on the edge of the field and
then the creature walked out of the corner

417
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.920
of the field. Do you think
there might have been perhaps a portal involved

418
00:28:52.119 --> 00:29:00.759
or I didn't until Brenda and I
started researching for ourselves, and we don't

419
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.119
really research like most people. We
do everything wrong compared to most people.

420
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.799
But until we did, I totally
thought Bigfoot was just gigantapithecus. I thought

421
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.880
this was just a giant thought to
be extinct, a black creature that was

422
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.720
still out there. Did not make
the connection in retrospect with what we photographed

423
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:23.759
of what we've seen, absolutely positively
think it walked out of a portal or

424
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:29.119
something similar. I don't know there
are many names for this type stuff,

425
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.240
but yeah, based on our current
experience today, that's what it was.

426
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.519
It was like I was seeing it
through that kind of heat at first,

427
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.599
But I always thought, as a
you try to rationalize everything, and I

428
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.279
always thought, hey, maybe it
was maybe it was just something in my

429
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.519
eye eye was blurry or it was
windy that day, and so I remember

430
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.359
rubbing my eyes. But yeah,
in retrospect, I definitely think it was

431
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:56.039
a portal that it was walking out
of. It's very interesting in that situation

432
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.119
like that, and you've probably heard
of the situation that happened in sc to

433
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.759
walk a ranch way back there was
like they saw a portal type thing open

434
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.279
up on top of the ridge and
they saw like a big Foot type creature

435
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.759
come out of the portal. You
know, personally, it's not what I

436
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.759
hold. But the cool thing about
this podcast is I talked to people from

437
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:22.359
all different views of there's no right
or wrong about Bigfoot yet we haven't gotten

438
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:27.519
the specimen to study yet, and
it's just fascinating to see the different viewpoints

439
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.880
of what makes up this creature from
how different people view it. But I've

440
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:37.000
actually got a question for Brenda.
Did you ever have any encounters with Bigfoot

441
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:42.039
growing up? Or was your journey
kind of started over this last year with

442
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:49.640
Roven. I had never even thought
about Bigfoot or dog man or any cryptids

443
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:57.920
before I met him. I was
always interested in UFOs and aliens and ghosts,

444
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.240
never saw one. Matter of fact, I moved from Michigan after I

445
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:10.680
graduated from college to Arizona partly in
hopes of seeing an alien but in the

446
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:15.039
UFO, but I never had.
So yeah, my thoughts of I never

447
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:23.200
even thought of Bigfoot or dog men
or anything until Robin came along and spoke

448
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:29.400
of his experience. And I know
this man for years, and he is

449
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:34.279
not one to tell a story for
any reason to get a girl or for

450
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:41.160
glory or anything. He just does
not lie whatsoever. And when he told

451
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.839
me the story, I said,
yeah, I know, I haven't seen

452
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.799
a UFO or an alien yet,
so I'd love to see a big foot.

453
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.680
And yeah, that's how it started
with us. With myself too.

454
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.920
What a perfect match it sounds like. For sure. Over the last year,

455
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.640
you guys have gotten it really into
some interesting things. I've watched some

456
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:06.720
of your videos on TikTok and it's
just it's such a fascinating thing that you

457
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.720
guys are getting into and I'd love
if you'd be able to share what's the

458
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:14.480
deal with the bigfoot finders and what
you guys have been doing over the last

459
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.839
year together. Sure, thank you
so much. And what we've been doing

460
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:24.200
is it just we can't even believe
we're living as ourselves. That's how overwhelming

461
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:30.920
it really is to us. In
our wildest dreams, we never thought we

462
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.200
would see the results we're seeing,
and we're humbled by it. I sincerely

463
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.960
mean that we don't think, hey, we've got this all figured out,

464
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:44.480
but yes, one thing that the
first thing that blew our mind was our

465
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.839
first day out ever, and we
got the Bigfoot on the cover of the

466
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.960
book The Bigfoot Finders. There's a
juvenile out front. You'll even see like

467
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.640
a scar or some sort of a
marking on his head or something where maybe

468
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.640
there was an injury. It just
all these things that you can't and the

469
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.039
other one looking over his right shoulder, and we had if you're I'm sure

470
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.599
you're familiar with Scott Carpenter, we'd
heard of some of Scott's stuff and we're

471
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.559
like, we're gonna go out and
see if we can get a picture of

472
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.599
Bigfoot. At the end of that
first day, if you've seen our videos

473
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.720
on TikTok, a lot of the
weird cryptids that we photographed, stuff I've

474
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.559
never seen, never heard of a
far beyond dog man and little people and

475
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.960
all that stuff. We get all
that stuff, but a lot of that

476
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.400
stuff was in the same round of
pictures that we got our first Bigfoot in.

477
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.759
And when I say our first Bigfoot. The first day we went out,

478
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.880
Brendan and I had a discussion and
we were like, it could I

479
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.000
told her, I said it could. Literally, it may take us ten

480
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.160
years to get some sort of a
picture. And we came back and we

481
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.440
just had old Samsung Galaxy S eight
actives that was my phone and her phone

482
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:51.559
was worse if you can imagine.
And we didn't have quality anything. We

483
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:52.680
didn't even know what we were doing. We didn't think we were going to

484
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.960
get pictures. We just knew were
We have fun with everything we do.

485
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.680
It's never just about finding Bigfoot or
getting pictures Cryptig or dog Man. With

486
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:06.240
us, it is literally about the
journey. We love each other dearly,

487
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.159
we love life, and we're living
where we got started together in our fifties,

488
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.280
and we're living more in a year
and two years than a lot of

489
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.639
people live in a lifetime. So
we're so blessed. But we go out

490
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.559
and we have a lot of fun, and we're about to wrap the day

491
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:27.000
up, and I told Brenda about
what Scott Carpenter had said and just to

492
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.199
put just to make a long story
short, at this point, we photographed

493
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.239
well over sixty Bigfoot and sixty dog
Man last year, which I understand people

494
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.199
being skeptical those statements, but just
check out our TikTok, check out our

495
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.760
website and listen to our hearts,
because there's no it's almost too much for

496
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.360
us to believe, but it is
true and accurate. But this first day

497
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.920
we're out there, we smell something. It just smelled. Brenda describes it

498
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:55.599
as a mix between dead animals.
Dead animals and lack gym socks. Dead

499
00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:00.639
animals have let gym socks. We
stopped at that point and I'm just looking

500
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.679
around, Oh what do I do
now? And Brenda starts taking pictures.

501
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:09.320
And by the way, she's standing
forty fifty feet away from me, and

502
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.719
she got If she would have had
a decent phone, it would have been

503
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.239
probably the best dog Man picture I
have ever seen in my life. That

504
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.400
day, she got two of them, and I am fifty feet from her

505
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.480
same area and start photographing. Now, we didn't know we had photographed anything,

506
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:29.840
but a lot of the weird and
strange cryptis were in that same round

507
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:34.199
of photos as the bigfoot in dog
Man, So all this stuff was together.

508
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.360
It's if I was trying to convince
people, I would do it totally

509
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.960
different. I would maybe get one
clear, good bigfoot shot and that's it.

510
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.840
But instead we're getting all this stuff
together. We didn't know it.

511
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.719
We go back to the car.
We looked through the pictures real quick.

512
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.880
We're having a great time. We
went on home, and we were set

513
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.760
to be married a week later,
and I was going out of town.

514
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.679
Now two weeks later, I was
going out of town in the interim for

515
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.880
one week for some training work.
And so this man is training on an

516
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:09.159
iPad because he's technically challenged. He
couldn't get a seeing this program that the

517
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:14.679
company went to on the iPads,
and he couldn't figure it out, so

518
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.559
they sent him out of state to
get additional training. So we do not

519
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:25.119
know how to photoshop or put anything
in pictures, or even take anything out

520
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:31.760
of a picture. So we're not
technically inclined whatsoever. Sure, and we

521
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.760
haven't had many people say but they're
like, they think this is I think.

522
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.559
I'm like, I can't even we
can barely figure out. If it

523
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.639
was for Brenda, we would even
have a TikTok because I can't figure out

524
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.480
how to do any of this stuff. But I'm on an airplane looking through

525
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.760
because I'm in airplane mode. I
can't do anything else. I'm in airplane

526
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.960
mode. So I started looking through
some pictures from our trip the weekend before,

527
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.039
and I looked through the pictures of
Brenda and not just having fun and

528
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.360
having a blast and then I start
zooming through the pictures where we had that

529
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:04.440
horrid smell, and within a probably
the second photo I looked at, I

530
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:08.199
zoom in and bam, I'm looking
at the cover the bigfoot on the cover

531
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.840
of the bigfoot finders just hidden back
there. You wouldn't even know they were

532
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.840
there. I took a screenshot and
I pulled it up more we didn't know.

533
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.719
Now we know how to light in
the background a little bit and do

534
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:23.000
some very simple things like that.
We have much better phones. We still

535
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:28.480
photograph with just our phones, but
we didn't know any of this stuff.

536
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.159
In A chill came over me as
I realized I'm looking face to face at

537
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.000
not just one, but multiple bigfoot, kind of all crashed down together,

538
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.960
looking straight out at me. And
by the way, ninety five percent of

539
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:44.079
the ones we photographed are looking straight
at us. By the time I got

540
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.559
done looking through all those photos,
we're seeing not just bigfoot, all kinds

541
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.000
of weird stuff in there with bigfoot. We realized we've gotten about by the

542
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.519
time we looked through Brenda's photos,
we'd gotten six bigfoot that one day.

543
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.400
And I know, if I was
a skeptic out there, this is the

544
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:01.840
kind of stuff that used to drive
me nuts. I wouldn't even listen to

545
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.360
somebody that said things like I'm saying
because it seems too absurd. And it

546
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.960
does to us too. The problem
is we just keep getting pictures of these

547
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:14.800
things, and so it just absolutely
blew our mind away and run over Virginia

548
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:15.880
and I'm calling Brendan, I'm like, look at this picture, Timmy,

549
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.679
what you see and just kept sending
her stuff and it just kept getting bigger

550
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.199
and bigger. And then if you
saw the TikTok video, the one that

551
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:28.719
we blew to life size eight feet
tall. We call him Pat and he's

552
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.519
walking away a big, muscular bigfoot. We got that one in the same

553
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.159
round, the same day, same
place. And then Brenda sent me her

554
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.519
pictures and I started looking through them, and holy moully that I'm looking at

555
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.199
She's got dog men in her pictures
standing up bipedal just blows your mind.

556
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:51.119
And so that was kind of our
introduction, and we thought we thought our

557
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.159
first thing. It changed our mind. It changed our worldview big time because

558
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.880
we had thought these were just natural
creatures and there was a lot of other

559
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:05.039
weird things unknown cryptids. One cryptied
with a skeletal type face. It was

560
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.360
only three and a half feet tall, but it looked like a bigfoot.

561
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.960
We got just the weirdest stuff,
one little owl like creature that Brenda says,

562
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.840
the most evil looking thing that we've
ever taken a photograph of. It

563
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.679
has arms as crazy as and you
can check out our TikTok if you don't

564
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.880
believe us. We don't make this
stuff up. But anyhow, we got

565
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:28.880
all this stuff and we thought,
wow, we must have just walked into

566
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.119
the day of all days, the
lucky If you call it luck, it's

567
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.599
either good luck or bad luck,
but whatever you call it, we called

568
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.559
it luck, the luckiest day of
our life photographing something's up. We'll never

569
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:43.800
do this again. So about a
week later we decided, Hey, we're

570
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.159
going to go to this other place. It's at the other end of the

571
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:51.159
state from Actually we were in Kentucky
and this is in West Tennessee. Today

572
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.079
we photographed Bigfoot in Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Kentucky.

573
00:39:54.760 --> 00:40:00.320
But we live within an hour and
fifteen minutes of most of those states for

574
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.800
us to do. But one thing
we do different, Jeremiah. We don't

575
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.199
have a research area. We don't
like going to the same place over and

576
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.920
over. We like going to different
places where people have never seen bigfoot,

577
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.840
just so they beat our criteria.
That's where we wind up photographing most of

578
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.599
our bigfoot is it new places.
But we went to this one place and

579
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:22.440
I just all I know to tell
you is you just get after you've been

580
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.119
around them, You get where you
fill in your gut when you're around them,

581
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.079
and you just know. And something
told me, hey, let's go

582
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.880
to this area. We went to
this area and we got two bigfoots that

583
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.960
are in our book, The Bigfoot
Finders. The second day we ever went

584
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.280
out looking for bigfoot, we got
two more bigfoot and we're like, wow,

585
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.880
this has got to be like two
flukes in a row. There's no

586
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:46.519
way and by the way to catch
people up to speed. If you haven't

587
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.440
heard of us, or heard of
our book, or checked us out or

588
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.480
saw anything on TikTok, we ninety
percent of the cryptids, ninety percent of

589
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:59.920
the bigfoot we photograph we don't see. Maybe ninety five we don't see in

590
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.559
we get home and zoom through the
photos. Last year we saw seven sasquatch

591
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.199
in real life, but we photographed
well over sixty, so most of the

592
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:13.360
ones we find we and the best
pictures we get we find after we get

593
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.480
home. The best ones are normally
not the one we see because they've already

594
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:21.760
removed or shifted by the time we
photographed. But we did photograph well over

595
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.760
sixty we don't see most of the
ones just where. Everybody will understand that

596
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:28.480
until after we get home in zoom
or we get back to the car in

597
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.639
zoom. Sometimes we do, though, so we do get to see them

598
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:35.280
from time to time. But Brenda
and I continued on this journey, we

599
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.800
realized that one thing that we found
is is people that have to understand all

600
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:45.920
this naturally just by wrapping their brain
around it, by logically thinking through it.

601
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.079
They're like, Wow, you can't
have bigfoot in dog men together.

602
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.360
That doesn't make sense. You can't
go out and get so many pictures of

603
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.280
bigfoot. That doesn't make sense.
You can't where do the people always ask?

604
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:00.320
Where do they put the body?
We started to get photographs that we

605
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:07.199
have honestly learned more from photographing these
creatures than I could ever imagine possible.

606
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:12.079
The photos, once we look at
them and zoom through them, they tell

607
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.840
a story of their own and whether
people believe it or not. Like I

608
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.480
said, we've got the pictures to
back it up. I'm nervous saying some

609
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.880
of this stuff. I don't want
somebody showing up knocking on my door.

610
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.480
If you know what I mean,
is not somebody wanting to know about the

611
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.960
pictures. I don't want the men
in black showing up and saying, hey,

612
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.800
we've heard about you guys. But
we've got pictures of portals, doorways,

613
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.800
things coming out of them, just
crazy stuff and things that don't make

614
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.320
sense. And I wish I could
say, hey, this is just a

615
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.119
natural creature, but we've seen too
many of them, and we've seen them

616
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:45.840
do too many weird, weird things
to see it from that angle ourselfs.

617
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.360
But we continued on our journey,
started getting a lot of dog man dog

618
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.159
men. We had the same place
we got the Bigfoot, about a mile

619
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.840
away that beefrom where I just come
up in my gut it was time to

620
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:04.000
go. We go out hiking that
same spring and we hear we're probably two

621
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.719
hundred yards from the end of a
small gravel road beside a what do they

622
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.800
call those ponds with the is Oxbow
Lake is one of those where the river

623
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.639
cuts off and makes this U shaped
big pond. And we're right beside one

624
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.079
of those in this same area,
and we're just talking and having fun like

625
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.719
always, but we're back away from
everybody. The water is just receded and

626
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.519
we hear a massive snort. I
mean it literally sounded like a rhight osprous

627
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.239
or something, just snorting as well
as it could. Brenda at that point

628
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:43.519
jumped so high jumping was I almost
wept myself. It scared the living daylights

629
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.400
out of me. And of course
then we turn and start taking pictures and

630
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.440
lo and behold what if we find
When we got back to the car,

631
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.679
we were right up. We were
within probably one hundred feet of these,

632
00:43:55.719 --> 00:44:00.280
and it was a female dog man
Shoe's standing by looking out from behind a

633
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.679
tree, and a baby dog man
out for I say baby, a juvenile

634
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.519
out front. And that's what we
saw in the pictures after we got back

635
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.360
from that big snort. Had a
second when we're fixing the post, it

636
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.360
a second time on TikTok. But
it's a very much a bipedal canine.

637
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:21.679
It doesn't have the claws, it
has elongated Paul looking and I think it's

638
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.679
a female because there's a juvenile over
to the side, but it doesn't show.

639
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.679
But that one we heard a grun
and maybe some stitch breaking or some

640
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.519
Sometimes we hear sticks breaking. Sometimes
we have things thrown at us, nothing

641
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:37.320
serious, rocks acorns, anytime anything
weird happens, anytime we smell anything,

642
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:42.159
hear anything, or there are just
certain areas that we've learned to look for,

643
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.280
and we take photos of those areas. We do not wait. I

644
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.000
think where most people mess up when
they're trying to photograph or video bigfoot or

645
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.800
dog man is they wait till they
see something, and then you're usually too

646
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.119
late. There are some good videos
out there, but our best pictures especially

647
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:04.119
come from it's just either something sounds
like something's there, we smell something there.

648
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.519
And by the way, no matter
what anybody has said, we get

649
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.039
some of our best photos when all
of nature's sounds are going. It doesn't

650
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.920
always go dead quiet. It does
sometimes. I think that's more when they're

651
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:20.239
in a predatory mood, maybe out
hunting. But sometimes everything's going on,

652
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.639
we'll still take pictures and still get
some of our very best pictures when everything's

653
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.920
happening around them, and sometimes it
does go dead quiet. If it goes

654
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.239
dead quiet, we always take pictures. But sometimes we had a juvenile bigfoot

655
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.320
in Hunstville, Alabama, and we
had friends out with us just we said,

656
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:37.480
hey, we want to show hey, we can get these pictures with

657
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.280
people with us. We can show
you how to get the pictures. And

658
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.199
we come back. It was throwing
acorns at us. We never saw it,

659
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.599
but we got a great picture of
it. It's in the book as

660
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:49.480
well, but we got a great
picture of it. And after we zumed

661
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.400
it when we got home. And
so just the little juvenile sizequatch and then

662
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.320
they're throwing photos at us. So
that's some of the stuff we run into.

663
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:59.039
I think Brenda's got something to jump
in with a lot of the times,

664
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:05.639
why we're out, I'm busy taking
pictures of butterflies and flowers and waterfalls

665
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.400
and ook, there's a bigfoot.
Got to take a picture of that now

666
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:14.360
that I see it. But it's
just a sunset, or it might accidentally

667
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.320
get in my flower picture. It's
just it's so strange that we see so

668
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.519
many of them, and I feel
that they know that we're not there to

669
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:27.880
harm them. We're just having fun. We're just having fun work, and

670
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.800
so they show themselves. I'm not
sure why, but I just know that

671
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.159
I don't want to hurt them.
I hope nobody else wants to hurt them

672
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.400
as well. Yeah, we don't
believe that one should be captured or taken

673
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.280
down for science or whatever. One
last thing I will throw out of the

674
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.360
seven visuals we had last year,
which I know sounds extraordinary. And I

675
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.119
don't blame folks if they said.
I get people to say I've same Bigfoot,

676
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.880
but you're lying. We're not.
We've got the pictures to prove it.

677
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.519
No, we didn't get good pictures
off well, the seven we saw.

678
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.000
We got pictures of a lot we
didn't see, but we did get

679
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:06.920
some good pictures of some of the
ones we saw. But every single one

680
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.679
of those, every single one.
It was maybe where we were going one

681
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.239
direction and we felt like maybe we
need to turn around and go another.

682
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.280
Maybe we just felt very strongly we
needed to be in a certain area where

683
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.840
at the crossroads in a trail and
we're taking one way and we say,

684
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.199
nope, We've got to take that
other way in the trail, and we

685
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:29.679
wind up just looking straight at one
it's just amazing. It's almost innate.

686
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.199
It's just almost something that if you'll
really just listen, listen to your inner

687
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:38.039
compass, there you learn how to
It's not just natural. There's some natural

688
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:43.159
things we look for. We always
look around water. We love long trails

689
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.519
that we take the small trail off
the big trail every time, and then

690
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.400
we look for where there's a long
shot and then there's a twist in the

691
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.920
trail. We look for down to
trees. They love to hang out around

692
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.599
down trees. We get some of
our best pictures there. But really it's

693
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.119
just going with your gut. Has
a lot to do with it too,

694
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.719
But we enjoy every stuff. This
is the funnest journey of our life.

695
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.199
And Robin said earlier than that we
do everything wrong. We don't do the

696
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.519
wood Knox, we don't do the
woomps, we don't do infrareds. We

697
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.599
don't go out at night. I
mean, we get all of our pictures

698
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.440
during the day because there's no way
in heck we're going to go out in

699
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.639
the woods at night knowing what's in
there during the daytime. That's right.

700
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.480
We would make for a good reality
TV show. We're pretty boring. To

701
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.599
see all these big fop man.
Well here here's a hot take. It

702
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.039
might that might be why you're getting
all this stuff is because you're not doing

703
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.360
all that stuff. I mean,
I'm sure i'll get some comments back about

704
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:42.199
that, but you're not doing the
normal stuff. So I don't know.

705
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.280
I do have a few questions for
you. I'm sure that listeners are going

706
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:50.719
to be like, hey, can
you share the general area where there were

707
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:54.239
like bigfoot in dog Man hanging out
because that's not really a super normal thing.

708
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.840
Sure, sure, Yeah. What
we don't do is we don't tell

709
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:05.480
absolute specifics and there's a reason for
that, but it's more about my concern

710
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.920
of copyright and pictures that we would
use here and there. And yeah,

711
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:13.519
I don't want anybody, especially landowners, want anonymity, but I'll be glad

712
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.079
to and I will tell you straight
up. Another thing that really we do

713
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:22.000
different from everybody is we actually thrive. We love to look for areas where

714
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.159
nobody's ever We've never heard, there's
the bfros, never reported, nobody's ever

715
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:29.320
seen or heard of one that we
know of, just so it meets our

716
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:34.480
criteria, and our criteria is simple
because we found them all the way from

717
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.960
the Mississippi River on the very west
end of Tennessee. We love rivers.

718
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:44.079
We love larger rivers, smaller rivers, anywhere there's water. Water is the

719
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.239
number one thing we look for.
Obviously, it's best when that's when that's

720
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:52.760
around a large amount of woods.
But we love to see how urban we

721
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.679
can get. If you did get
on our website, I don't know if

722
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:58.559
we have him named, but I
know there's a TikTok that we talk about

723
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.800
him a lot. But the Jackson
big which is probably the second best facial

724
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.159
that we've ever gotten of a Bigfoot. He's you can see the skin shine,

725
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.599
you can see the eye with you
can see the width of his mouth.

726
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:14.000
You can just see things that just
aren't you know, you just can't

727
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.159
make that happen on the Jackson Bigfoot. We love to see how urban we

728
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.000
can get with Bigfoot too, because
we don't always go deep into the woods.

729
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.679
We truly do everything wrong. But
up here in West Tennessee, I'll

730
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.440
give you some rivers. We photographed
him around that people will know them.

731
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:35.199
We photographed him as far east as
far as we've went is Kotville Crossbow area

732
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.519
around the Caney Fork River, the
Rock Island area. We photographed there.

733
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.599
There's one in the book from there. We've photographed all around the Obion or

734
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.880
Obien River here. And I've only
lived in West Tennessee for about a year

735
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:50.400
and a half, but it's just
two years. Brenda's been here for about

736
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.239
a year and so not for different. People pronounced that river different. The

737
00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.480
Hatchie River's got a bunch, but
the forkid Deer River here. Of course,

738
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.280
that one was on the east fork
of the Stones River. We did

739
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.719
go back, haven't told a lot
of people. We went back Murphysboro city

740
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.280
limits and got a decent picture.
It's not what we would call it a

741
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:14.360
Grade A, but we got a
decent picture there on the westbook of the

742
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:19.679
Stones in Murphysboro. But just really
anywhere there's water and a good amount of

743
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.719
land. I like going to places
that have been also one thing we really

744
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.679
like to hit as if say,
an area has been there's been a lot

745
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.119
of trees there, but they've went
in and messed it up and cut the

746
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:35.480
timber down and piled the trees up
just so it's been pretty fresh and there's

747
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.159
woods around it. We'll get a
lot of pictures of cryptage right there where

748
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.960
trees have been downed. I think
they're out there because they're mad. But

749
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.199
we get a lot of them there, but primarily around any major river.

750
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:51.599
If I were to tell someone to
start looking, i'd look for rivers down

751
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:55.239
the trees, rockout croppings. We
find some there. Those are just some

752
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:01.079
of the natural things we look for. But then if you have maybe parks

753
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.639
or wildlife refuges that have trails cut
out in them, but trails that very

754
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.320
few people walk, and we'll even
get them all the way back to what

755
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.719
we call we love the areas that
are what we call the overlap areas,

756
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.400
and that's where it's pretty much as
far as people go mad. At the

757
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.480
end of a little video country gravel
road where there's a gate and a long

758
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.280
trail or something. I always take
a picture down those long trails and look

759
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:28.519
in those areas because I think there's
a place in the book Jeremiah where I

760
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.039
say we are the bait, but
we're their entertainment. They're very curious about

761
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:35.840
humans. They don't show themselves very
much. But ninety five percent of the

762
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.000
ones we photographed are looking straight at
us. But yet, I answer your

763
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:42.519
question, any of those rivers we
photographed at the Tennessee River as well,

764
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.920
got some really good ones there.
Photographed down in Tishumingo County, Mississippi.

765
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:51.719
Got a really good female bigfoot down
there with that's obviously female. And we

766
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:55.280
get bigfoot and dog man and everything
else almost everywhere we go, as long

767
00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.239
as it meets the criteria and we
look for that water and we look for

768
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.880
we're in a state park that's pretty
busy. We'd like to go in the

769
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:06.639
winter when nobody's there. But that's
just some of the things we look for

770
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.400
in some of the places we've been, Revan, have you ever considered going

771
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:16.159
to maybe some of the hotspots like
Bankhead in Alabama or like LBL, or

772
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:22.039
you hit the maybe not as well
known areas, But have you ever thought

773
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.920
of So, Yeah, we have, we went. We've been to the

774
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:30.480
LBL before, and our experience at
the LBL we got we had one fantastic

775
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:36.159
day at the LBL of photographing.
I'll just say for clarity because I'm concerned

776
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.360
about their copyright stuff. Nothing obviously
that was used in the book, but

777
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.159
just a fantastic day of taking pictures. Since then, though, the LBL

778
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.400
for us has really hit has been
hit and miss. It's about two hours

779
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:50.079
from the house. We try to
say a little bit closer than that.

780
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.480
But we did get another picture that
we've used on one of our videos.

781
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.960
It's just like a bigfoot crawling straight
down And the weird thing is on this

782
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.199
one he was crawling straight in front
of us, like in an army crawl

783
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:06.239
or a spider crawl. We photographed
him. We got down there, and

784
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:07.960
that's one of the times we walked
right past him pass where he was.

785
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.840
We photographed him on the way down. Didn't know he was there because it

786
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.679
was maybe his so far off and
blended in We get back seem in the

787
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:17.440
photos, but we realize, hey, these are the photos we went when

788
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.719
we walked down there, and when
we got right down to the bottom,

789
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:22.559
I looked at Brent and I said, we've got to go. This is

790
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.199
just one of them. We've just
got to go. And so we turned

791
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.639
around and left there real quick.
I don't know what it was about that,

792
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.719
but yeah, other than that,
we haven't been to We did pick

793
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:36.679
up a juvenile bigfoot in a place
where it was known for bigfoot sidings,

794
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.840
but for the most part, we
thrive on places that most people have never

795
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:44.920
seen one. We don't consider it
a detriment. We consider it and not

796
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.519
just a challenge. We almost considered
it an advantage if there haven't been a

797
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.519
lot of sightings there. I know
that sounds crazy and against the traditional norm.

798
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:57.360
We would like to go to what
is it, Salt Fork, you

799
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.679
know, we'd like to go up
there. We've got some of these places

800
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.599
on our radar, but we have
people you know, on tiktoking on YouTube

801
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.239
and reaching out to us. So
you got to check out our hot spot.

802
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.239
And we don't even have hot spots. Man, We find them pretty

803
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:14.039
regularly, so it's not really important
to us as to whether most people have

804
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.039
a lot have been seen there a
lot, But we'd be willing to do

805
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.239
that for sure, just for kicks. It'd be fun. Absolutely. Do

806
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.920
you think there's any spiritual aspect or
connection to these creatures at all? Absolutely?

807
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:30.320
And I can tell you one right
now that no. I believe they

808
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.440
are multi dimensional. Personally, I
have a biblical worldview, which but I

809
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.480
think you have to dig deep,
and I do believe it's tied into the

810
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:43.920
Nephelom in the attempt to contaminate the
DNA of the planet before Noah's flood,

811
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.960
and the Bible says before the days
before those days and after the days of

812
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.639
Noah's flood as well. But I
will tell you something that I wasn't going

813
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:53.920
to mention, but since you asked
that directly, absolutely, you can go

814
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:59.880
to our website right now www.
Dot the Bigfootfinders dot com. You can

815
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.159
go to the speaking Engagement page.
You can scroll down to the bottom picture

816
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:07.159
on the speaking engagement page. If
you go to it, and you'll see

817
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.079
a picture of me standing behind a
podium. It was the press conference we

818
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.039
did to release the book and let
the world know, Hey, these things

819
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.320
are real. We're having trouble getting
people's attention. And we get photographs of

820
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.519
these things all the time, in
good ones. Not all of them are

821
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:23.639
that good. But if you go
to the bottom of that speaking engagement page

822
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:29.239
and you look at the podium and
you look at my pants, that photo

823
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.199
was not like that when we took
it. We made every effort to make

824
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:36.119
sure everything was perfect. But you
look at the podium on the speaking Engagement

825
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.480
page, the very bottom you scroll
in, you're going to see a face

826
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:44.239
that's appearing on the bottom of that
podium. And if you'll take a screenshot

827
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.360
of that on your phone, and
then you'll zoom in. You'll see very

828
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:52.480
much an evil and devious looking face. And all I can tell you is,

829
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.440
we would never put that there.
Our web guy still doesn't even know

830
00:56:54.480 --> 00:57:00.360
it's there. And these things we've
seen, the weirdest things we've seen photo

831
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.559
manipulation. I know we're going to
start to sound crazy. I won't go

832
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.000
too deep into that because it's a
whole other realm. But yes, there

833
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:13.960
is absolutely a spiritual aspect to these
beings, not just a sasquatch, but

834
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.840
all cryptis. That's why there's in
my opinion, there's no body or it's

835
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:21.880
hard to find one. That's why
they can be seen many times in very

836
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.639
urban settings. I believe they're one
hundred percent natural when they're here. I

837
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:29.159
believe they eat, they smell,
they leave tracks, they hunt, they

838
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.639
have a scent, they make noise. But I believe there is definitely a

839
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:37.480
spiritual, multi dimensional element to these
creatures, and we've got a lot of

840
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.800
photos that would back that up.
So that's awesome. I guess same question

841
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:45.920
for do you think that also applies
to dog Man as well, that there's

842
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:52.800
some kind of spiritual connection we talked
about the nflon and that's some really wild

843
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:57.199
stuff you can get into. You
can. It's a deep rabbit hole.

844
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:01.119
But I will tell you absolutely,
yes, we have seen. I was

845
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:05.239
in Manila, and usually Brenda's with
me, and I try not to do

846
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.400
anything without her because it's our thing
we do together. But I travel a

847
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:14.360
lot with my job, and so
I'll get to stop at different places.

848
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:20.440
And I was in Manila, Arkansas, and stopped it a certain just a

849
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:27.280
certain body of woods there and actually
just walked right and I just felt like

850
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.400
I was going to stop there once
again. There's one of the seven I

851
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.840
saw last year. And I look
at walking down a little trail beside a

852
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.039
lake, and there's a siequatch and
it walks up real fast and just stops.

853
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:43.639
And I've got pictures. There's a
TikTok of it too. But I

854
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:45.159
wish sometimes I just wish. I'm
like, man, I just wish I

855
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.119
could sit down and show you the
stuff on my phone. Zoom in.

856
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.360
It'll just blow your mind. But
it's a sidequatch. It's a solid creature.

857
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.559
Now, by the time I took
the first picture, it was still

858
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:59.360
very solid. Is very solid.
You couldn't see through it. It was

859
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:04.800
solid. And then the thing morphs
into its background and turns into the vines,

860
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.559
but you can still see the outline
of the sasquatch. And then there's

861
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.599
nothing but vines. And then there's
a dog man coming out of that same

862
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.360
bunch of vines. And so there
is a that would not that could not

863
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:22.039
happen where it's just a natural creature. And so it makes me nervous to

864
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.840
you know, be But we're very
transparent and we feel like we're honestly as

865
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:29.880
we're Christians. We feel like we're
called by God to bring this stuff to

866
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:36.800
light. But there's definitely a spiritual
element. And yes, if this were

867
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.400
just natural creature, you wouldn't find
bigfoot and dog man. We find little

868
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:45.760
people all these at the very same
get great photos of all this stuff at

869
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.400
the same place we photograph bigfoot,
So that alone tells me we've got a

870
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.719
picture of a bigfoot with a fox
looking thing on its shoulder. We get

871
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.360
pictures of these things with all kinds
of other just things that it's just not

872
00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:00.719
natural, and creatures that maybe you
know they live like a real creature,

873
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.119
but there's just something off on them. We get that all the time when

874
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:06.920
Bigfoot's around. It's just crazy.
I don't know if that answers your question.

875
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.000
I can't remember I ramble so much, man, but this stuff is

876
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:14.400
just so exciting to me. But
if overloads your brain sometimes too, there's

877
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.480
a spiritual element. I definitely agree, and I feel like the crazier things

878
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:27.280
get out there. It seems like
there's a there's been a real increased focus

879
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.519
on paranormal cryptids in the last few
years, and I think it's important.

880
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:37.960
I mean, I'm a Christian as
well. It's important that Christians they're able

881
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:44.679
to know what's going on with those
fields and not be I think there was

882
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.280
a time frame a long time ago, or maybe fifteen twenty years ago,

883
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:51.480
where people would be like freaked out
or be like, oh, we don't

884
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:55.320
talk about Bigfoot or dog Man.
But it's important, and there's a lot

885
01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:00.280
of podcasts that are into that as
well. There's like Blurry Creatures as a

886
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:06.280
confessional as those guys. It's important
that there's people in Christianity that are also

887
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:10.760
talking in the field of Bigfoot,
encryptids, and dog Man, and I

888
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:14.679
just think it's important. I wish
this were just a natural creature. I

889
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.679
wish it were a gigantapithecus. I
wish dogmen didn't exist and there was just

890
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.840
Bigfoot and people could wrap their brain
around that a whole lot easier. It

891
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:27.639
would be easier for the public to
receive. But so you know, it

892
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.559
wasn't. We've had a total on
the cover of our book. It says

893
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:35.360
warning, this book will rock your
worldview. And our book doesn't even go

894
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.920
deep into this stuff at all.
It's just how we photograph Bigfoot, that's

895
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:42.639
all it's about. So if anybody's
being afraid of all this stuff, we

896
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.119
don't go into that in our book, but I will tell you learning the

897
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.400
truth will rock your worldview, and
that's what most people are so frightened of.

898
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.320
Tell people all the time. Science
changes in every generation, and I

899
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.599
think this stuff will one day be
scientifically proven. It's just beyond what we

900
01:01:55.639 --> 01:02:00.719
can comprehend or know now. But
the idiots of one generation and somehow become

901
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.880
the heroes of the next, you
know, And so so I think that

902
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.199
this stuff will be proven as technology
increases and we continue to, you know,

903
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.719
do what we do, and many
others, you know, continue to

904
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:14.559
do the great work they're doing.
So hopefully the truth will come out.

905
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:20.519
And that's one thing that when we
were younger, we were taught that this

906
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:25.320
stuff is not real. There was
no other planet or other life on other

907
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:31.079
planets, and there was no such
thing as ghosts or Bigfoot or dog man.

908
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:37.280
So when we grew up believing that
this wasn't real, and so when

909
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.920
you do see it, your mind
has no place to put it. You're

910
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:45.719
trying to figure out what that was
because you weren't taught that, you didn't

911
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:52.199
grow up with it. And now
the generations are growing up with Bigfoot's real.

912
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.480
Aliens are real, UFOs are real, and maybe it's a little bit

913
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:01.199
easier for this generation to wrap them
brain around it. Oh, I agree,

914
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:07.360
Brenda, definitely. It's it's way
easier for current generation to wrap their

915
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:10.199
mind around it, no question.
I tell people all the time, when

916
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:14.000
I saw my first bigfoot, I
wasn't trying to see a bigfoot. I

917
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.159
was trying to unsee a bigfoot.
I wasn't thinking that's a bigfoot. I

918
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:22.800
was thinking it can't be and trying
to rationalize and justify every way. And

919
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:24.599
it's like your brain is a library
and you're looking for a place to file

920
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.800
it but there's no word to file
it, and so that's why I believe

921
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.320
the truth is always the best policy. Absolutely, And something I didn't mention

922
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:36.199
before, I just want to say
rest in peace, Scott Carpenter. I

923
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:38.800
never got to talk to him,
but it's very interesting and Releven and Brenda,

924
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.519
I just want to say thank you
so much for coming on. It

925
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.760
has been a really fun and enlightening
chat. Do you mind taking a few

926
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.639
minutes just to remind people how they
can keep up to date with what you're

927
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.199
doing, how they can pick up
the book The Bigfoot Finders and all that

928
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:58.559
good stuff. Absolutely, thank you
so much, Srema, And really what

929
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.079
we're looking for it's not those sales, it's just connections. It's great to

930
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:06.119
know people like yourself and your listeners
out there, because sometimes you can fill

931
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:11.079
all alone doing this. But yes, the best place to get our book,

932
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.599
and it's available on just about every
format out there, but the best

933
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.199
place to get it is to go
and to connect with us in any way

934
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:24.559
is to go to our website www
dot Thebigfootfinders dot com. It has links

935
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.880
to purchase the book, it has
all about speaking engagements, it tells about

936
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.400
it. We have our newsletter and
you can sign up for that. It

937
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:36.079
has links of places that we've been
available and spoken and things like that.

938
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:41.519
But more than anything, it's just
great to be able to connect. But

939
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:44.320
yes, the book is called The
Bigfoot Finders. You can get a straight

940
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:48.559
on Amazon, KDP, Lulu,
and we just found out to say that

941
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:53.440
it's available on Walmart dot com,
but it costs twice as much there,

942
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.679
so don't fight on Walmart, you
know, so I have. There's also

943
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:01.679
links out our website to our YouTube
channel, our TikTok channel, and Facebook.

944
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.440
We do most on TikTok as well. We're not that good at this

945
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:11.599
social media thing. But yeah,
www dot the Bigfootfinders dot com is the

946
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.400
best way to reach us. So
that's awesome. Yeah, definitely, guys,

947
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.079
check it out, check out their
stuff. It is very informative and

948
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:23.599
very interesting. And I just thank
you so much for coming on guys.

949
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.519
Oh you are so welcome, truly
our honor Jrema, thanks for all you

950
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:30.159
do. Man. Just wanted to
take a few minutes to say thank you

951
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:34.559
to you all my listeners for listening
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952
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:40.599
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956
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.360
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957
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:01.360
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958
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:08.360
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959
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.639
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All right, I'm going to use this

960
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:16.039
space this week to announce that I'll
be at the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge organ

961
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:20.199
as an atender. I won't be
presenting or anything, but I'll be hanging

962
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:25.880
out trying to interview people that have
had bigfoot counters. If you're from the

963
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:30.760
Oakridge, Oregon area or surrounding and
you've had a bigfoot experience, please contact

964
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.039
me directly Bigfoot Society at gmail dot
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965
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:39.639
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966
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969
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970
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