Something else lived on Grandfather's Farm!

0:00 Welcome to the big for Society podcast. In this episode, I talked to Rove and Brenda from the Bigfoot Finders about their history of Bigfoot encounters in Tennessee and the unique way they're experiencing them today. If you've experienced something similar to what the Bigfoot Finders have or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same area, please reach out to me immediately after this episode. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, please contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, and also make sure you check out Bigfoot Society podcast dot com, where you can become a member and get extra episodes. A right Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Roven and Brenda Rhodes. They reached out to me about how they've experienced some really interesting things down in Tennessee over the years. We're gonna hand it right over to Rove and Brenda. Sure, thank you so much. First of all, usually it takes most people that are really into crypt it's had something happen in their childhood teenage years, and that was the case with me situation.

1:00 My grandfather had a farm I live in West Tennessee now, but he was in Middle Tennessee, right in the exact geographic center of the state, a place called Las Cassis, Tennessee, right outside of Murphysboro. And my goal in life was to spend all my life with my grandfather as much as I positively could. My parents felt I needed to attend this thing called school, so they kind of rell me in sometimes, but I spent at least every third weekend, every Christmas break, every Thanksgiving break, and every summer with my grandfather at his home from the time I was really old enough to walk, from the time I was in school, but before then, I just stayed with him all the time that I could. And I love my grandfather dearly. His farm was surrounded by hundreds of other acres of land, and really the people didn't either they didn't care if we got over on them, or they didn't know. But as long as we respected the property, my grandfather didn't care. And so me and my friends would just wander in that last cases area with just woods, and you know, did a lot of hunting, did a lot of fishing up and down the east fork of the Stones River. And I remember, even as a young child on my grandfather out in my grandfather's yard, and we would hear what I know now to be wood knocks, but we didn't know what it was. We had no idea, and I'd always ask him, I say, Pop, what's that. They must be building a barn over there, but it would always be at like dusk dark, and so there was you know that, we knew that there was no power over in those woods, no way anybody had electricity, and so therefore they couldn't possibly be building a barn. My friend

2:36 from down the street, he'd just look at me and shake his head. We were in maybe second third grade, but he was already all through those woods and he said, there's no barn over there. Nobody's building anything. But we would hear the wood knocks. You fast forward a little bit and I was either twelve or thirteen. I normally say thirteen, but I'm not one hundred percent for sure. At my grandfather's I'd taken up deer hunting, and my grandfather was my best friend. He would do anything for me. He knew that I really enjoyed fishing, and so because of that, he had dug me a pond on the back of his property. Now, when I say he had one hundred acres, it was split up into two parcels. And the parcel he lived on was about thirty nine acres and the other one was sixty one and it was at the end of the road. And so just due to proximity and not liking to walk in the dark and stuff like that, I would always go deer hunting on the land that was connected to his home. He had dug that pond, and so would I called it scouting, but I just instead of it before deer season. I never took my deer rifle. I just take a twenty gauge shotgun and go back there in the fall and just see what I could see before deer season.

3:46 And it was one particular day, probably in eighty one or eighty two, and I had went back. He would go out his back gate and through some woods, through about a million ticks and cedar trees, and come to a logging trail and go down that logging trail through three hundred yards and you walk out into what we called his sage grass field on his property was very narrow and deep, and so the sage grass field was on the back side of his property and I had went back there like I always do, probably in September. I would think, I remember some of the leaves were maybe starting to change, but not much. And as I went back there, I just remember the day was many times we see him now and it's not totally quiet, but it was just very surreal. It was like there was something off about the day, is the only way I can explain it.

4:38 And on the pond that he had dug for me in the middle of the field, I stepped up on that pond. I would always walk around that pond where I could get an elevated view of what was going on because the sage grass was maybe two and a half three feet high. In this particular day, I got to the far end of the pond or the pond bank. There was never any water into a mountain anything, by the way, because the only one hundred acres in Rutford County that would not hold water. But I get to the end of it and I looked down to the right hand side of the far end of the field, which was maybe less than one hundred yards away. And I always checked that in out really good because my deer stand was there, and it was when they had dug the pond, they had cleared off the far end. Everything had been pushed away except for about eight big trees, and it was probably eighty five yards across the field at that point. There was a fence line there, and there was these big eight trees, and instead of being tall sage grass there, there was maybe three or four inch grass that that had just sprouted back up where it had been bulldozed off. And so I looked down there, and something looks funny out of the right hand side of that field. It was the way I explained it to people, is almost like I was looking through an intense heat or maybe if you're pumping gas in the middle of the hot summertime, that wavy way that things look when you look down at the gas pump and the heat coming off of it in the fumes. It looked like that.

6:03 It almost looked like I was looking through a heat. And I remember rubbing my eye because I thought that there was something in my eye. But instead I see somebody start to walk out of that corner of the field, and my first thought was just oh no, I'm nobody else is supposed to be hunting on my grandfather. So I'm going to have to tell them to leave, And as it began to step out, I began my second thought. The first thing I saw that looked unnatural was not it was all brown, but I thought, that's brown cover alls in brown boots, even though it was a little warm for that, a brown toboggan brown gloves, which I thought was strange. But the first thing it looked awkward to me was the gate. It was how this thing was walking as it stepped out from under the shade and took two or three steps out, going very slow, almost methodical, and I've always felt that it wanted to let me see it.

7:00 I've always felt it was intentional. But as it did, I noticed that its legs, it didn't walk right. Its legs never locked completely. It was almost like it was scooting. Its arms were exceptionally long, and it was exceptionally big, and by exceptionally big, probably between seven and seven and a half feet tall based on how tall it looked when it walked right under my deer stand. But I'm looking at it, and then I realized as it steps out out of the shade, probably about three point thirty in the afternoon, a windy day, it steps out of the shade, and it had it know I was there. The wind was blowing straight from me to it as well. But I began to see that the sun listened on its hair, and for some reason I thought hair and not fur, but just hair. Just this thing looked nothing like a bear. People that say that or just they've never seen one. It looked very human, but it was just unhuman. I remember the head arched forward in an unusual way, and it was almost like the bend in the neck was It didn't really have much of a neck, but its head bent forward from a lower vertebrae than a human would, so its whole body from somewhere between the shoulder blades was just slanted at about a forty five degree angle, and it was lurching forward, but it was walking upright, long arms, almost exaggerated swings of the arms. And then as it got out into the sun and took those few steps, I remember it swung its shoulders and looked directly at me. It

8:31 almost seemed like it shoulder shifted too, because it didn't just turn its head. It wasn't all the turn of the neck, but it was like those shoulders just shifted. It looked straight at me, but it never stopped walking in the direction it was walking to the other side of the field. And when this thing looked at me, I just I don't know how to explain it, and I don't claim it was mind speak, but what I do tell people is I felt this overwhelming and press of don't mess with me, and I won't mess with you. Mess with me, and you will regret it. And it took about two or three steps as it continued to look at me. It wasn't looking the direction it was going, but it was walking. And then it turned its body and head straight back the way it was going, which was falling directly under that fence row, and just kept right on walking. It just it seemed like that it was just saying, hey, I'm in charge here, don't mess with me, and you'll be all right. But I've always felt it it meant to reveal itself. I'm standing there on the bank of that pond. I've got my twenty gage shotgun with one it's a single shot, it's got one quail load in it, and I've got two more quail looad in my hunter's jacket, and that's all I've got with me, and I'm holding that gun into forty five degree angle pointed upward, and I'm looking at this thing. And I don't even tell people. I don't even feel like I breathed, because I was just frozen.

9:56 Whether it was fear or just frozen some way, I don't know. But I just remember hearing my heart beat in my vein, in my neck and just watching this thing. And I didn't even move my head. I just moved my eyes until it walked completely across that eighty or eighty five yard wide field and out of sight. The moment it got out of sight, my thought process was very simple, and that was, hey, either I take off running because we were going to crisscross if it followed that fence row didn't cross any fences and then followed another logging trail. I was going to crisscross with this thing on my way back to my grandfather's. Or I could run in the direction that it came and hope it just wasn't sitting there waiting on me, and go circle around and go back home the other way.

10:45 So I remember thinking for just a split second as soon as it went out of sight, but I thought, I'm going to go for it. So I took off, running as fast as I could, just as fast as I could with that shotgun, back the way that I came, and I thought it was There were no videos on YouTube, there was nothing. There was very little information about bigfoot, and I didn't know that were as fast as I know there are now. But I'm thinking I can outrun this thing, and so I took off back towards my grandfather's house as fast as I could, and I could just see it stepping out of that logging trail and intersecting me because the two trails intersected, so I didn't even look. I didn't even look to the right or to the left when I ran down through there. I just ran as fast as I could, probably close to half a mile maybe a third of a mile home, and went in the door, just panting prayer. And they said, what's wrong? And I had heard a bigfoot? And I told them I said, I I think I saw a big foot back there, and my grandfather belied me. I think he knew that we're out there. And my grandmother said, all of a sudden, you just saw slew foot or old she had a name for it, but she believed me. And I never really I told a friend about it, I didn't tell a whole lot of people about it. Became somewhat interested in the subject. That same fall, I was back there in that same field. Now I would not even though that happened in the daytime, my dear hunting going back there at night, early in the morning or late eat coming home late and evening was over. From that point forward, I thought, I'm not going back in those woods unless I have my Marlin thirty

12:16 thirty and it's completely loaded. I'm not going back in those woods unless I can see everything, unless it's daylight. And I pretty much quit hunting. But I went back a few more times, so that same fall, I go back there to the same field. A little bit later on in the year, it is dear season. I have my Marlin thirty thirty, it's loaded, it's got one in the chamber. And as I get back close to the field, probably one hundred yards from it, I can hear what I thought was two men talking, but it was very loud and very boisterous, sounded like it was coming from massive lungs, And as I got closer to the field, I realized that whoever was talking they weren't on some adjoining property. They were right there beyond the woodline in that field. And I realized too, I thought that it was just maybe it was out in the woods. There was an echo. I'm like, why can't I understand them?

13:11 And as I said and listened, I thought, they're talking in a foreign language. They're talking in Chinese, is what I thought at the time. I said, And they sounded big too. They just sounded like two. I'm like, what in the world are two big Chinese guys doing out here in the woods on my grandfather's property. And I was just confused. I never forgot that day, did not know that was the samurai chatter until I heard the Sierra sounds later on and heard I think it was M. K. Davis big put in a shed or something like that, and I'm like, parts of that sounded just like, but it was a distinct language that I heard. Never made the connection, didn't know what it was. I was just confused. And anyhow, that kind of ended that. So if you fast forward maybe three years, I was either sixteen or seventeen, think I was seventeen, and this is quite the experience here. And it happened within three miles of my grandfather's farm. But this when I had a friend with me. He had just bought a boat of mine, as a fourteen foot b bottom boat, and we decided to put that boat in on the east fork of the Stone River in Las Casas, Tennessee. And guys, if you know where I'm talking about, there's the whole place has changed now, but the mill pond that was there was Brown's mill. Brown's mill has collapsed. There's been a lot of building around there. But anyhow, this was in April of eighty six, and we decided to go down the river smallmouth bass fishing, and he says, hey, let's just make a

14:41 weekend out of it. So we were going to spend Friday night potentially Saturday night there and come home on Sunday. So the first night we put the boat in, and if you're familiar with that, anybody's familiar with that stretch of the river, you can almost you can wage most of it now, but back then, before the mill collapsed, you couldn't. And so we float the boat down the river's a little higher than normal, it's up maybe a foot, and float down to a gravel bar that I'm aware of It's about a mile and a half down the river there from the bridge, and we set up camp and the guy was with. He was a rugged outdoorsman. He was just an amazing guy. He was a good friend at the time, but he was much older. He was I think twenty nine.

15:24 He was married and lived next door and he had children and stepchildren as well. And we set up camp. He started a fire. He could He was really good at just the outdoors, everything outdoors. I just like a fish. Mainly I hunted a lot, but I loved to fish. And I won't give his name if I don't let it slip out of respect. But this affected him in a very deep way. That night, we were sitting there on the gravel bar and we were just we had the fire going and we were just looking at the water. It was really chilly. I normally wouldn't have wanted to camp out with it that cold, but we just decided to make a weekend of it. And he looks at me. It's probably about nine thirty nine or nine thirty and he says, and he had a very deep voice, he said, it sure has gotten quiet outside.

16:17 And within ten seconds of him saying it sure has gotten quiet outside. It literally sounded like a bomb hit the water right upstream from us. Just words cannot describe the impact that whatever had just hit the water had. It wasn't something being thrown in the water. It was honestly, it sounded like something was dropped in the water from a high altitude. And so my friend and I we did not get up. We launched to our feet, landed on our feet, shaking. It was like dead quiet out there. He says, it sure has gotten quiet. And then here this massive splash from right outside of our fire's light. So we're probably seventy five feet away from where this happened, and probably fifty feet of this or so maybe sixty seventy feet of this is gravel bar, and we know which direction it came from.

17:18 And so he grabbed his flashlight, which was it wasn't much of a flashlight, but it was all we had, and he grabbed it and we start making our way down the gravel bar. I'm just looking over his shoulder, and we go to the end where we know this thing hit, something hit the water, and we look out and the first thing that you can see is these massive red eyes. When I say massive I'm talking unnaturally huge, the size of silver dollars, and they were solid red. They were like a bright red. And he put his light on it, but they were almost what I would call self illuminating. These eyes were like they were so big, but I would not my brain would not allow me to comprehend the fact that they were eyes. So I'm making all kinds of excuses in my mind, and then I think, what could it be? It was These eyes were probably six inches apart, and we were just trembling and shaking.

18:14 And my friend who's with me, who I've seen do things that were absolutely fearless that I was afraid to do. He starts saying, it's a monster. It's a monster. It's a monster. And I told him, I said, it can be a monster. And I knew that cows came down to that area to get water, and I said, it's probably a cow that just fell in the water. But by that time, we could see, not just because his flashlight was really weak, but we could see not just see not just the eyes loin, but we could see the silhouette of the head, and the head was so big. And remember, at that time, no YouTube know anything, no internet had no idea bigfoot got in the water. Nothing, And my friend just kept saying, it's a monster, it's a monster. And he was out front, he was maybe three feet in front of me, and I was just peaking over his shoulder.

19:00 He had the flashlight. He was right at the corner of the water, and this thing was no more than twenty twenty five feet out in the water, past the edge of the gravel bar. And I know the water there was seven feet deep or so at the time, with the river up like it was, and this thing was just looking at us. It just looks at us. And my friend keeps saying it's a he's cursing, it's a monster. It's a monster. And I told him, I said, it just can't be. And then it tilted his head. It's like it tilted its head to the right and to the left, both of them, just slowly. It tilted its head and then it straightened its head up and then it tilted its head to the other side. And it was like, I felt like, whatever this thing is, it's examining us as the light as we begin to adapt to the lighting and see a little bit better. With his really bad flashlight, you could see the silhouette of a head, and there was at least fourteen sixteen inches of head that was sticking out of the water, and the eyes were just right above water level, so probably its mouth and its lips were right on the water. And still there was maybe sixteen, maybe even eighteen inches a head sticking up. This thing's head was just absolutely ginormous, and we could start to make out the brow ridge and maybe the nose you could see a little, but you couldn't see everything.

20:15 And it just stared at us, and we watched it for probably probably two and a half minutes right there, and we were just My friend was just shaking. He was shaking, and he was far braver than me. I was far dumber than him, but I was in denial. I was just simply, it can't be. There's God a biological explanation for this. Somebody's prankness. I don't know what this is. And then the strangest thing happened. It pushes out toward the center of the river, not all the way to the center, but it pushes out toward the center, and it starts to go downstream toward where we're camp, towards where the fire is, and it goes in this zigzag pattern super fast, much faster than the current.

20:56 The river was up, the current was moving. This thing is far exceeding the speed of the current. But immediately I thought, this looks like I do if I'm in three and a half feet of water and I'm using my feet to push off as a six foot tall person. This thing looks like it is pushing or propelling itself on the bottom. And I know how deep that water is, as it just shifted back and forth, and the whole time it went downstream, so it had probably seventy feet or so to go downstream to end up right in front of our campfire. The whole time it went downstream, its head and eyes were turned directly toward us. So it's moving, there's a zigzag pattern going on, but it's looking directly at us, and it goes down really fast until it comes to an abrupt stop directly in front of our campfire. And now because of the light of the fire, we can see it better, we can make out more, and we're those big massive eyes are still there, and it does the head tilt thing again, and we're just looking at it, and we're both in shock and awe and fear. And my friend looks at me and he says, we had forgot, totally forgotten. He had his twelve gay shotgun there as loaded with a double lot buck and he said, lend me my shotgun, and he handed me the light. He said, hold this light, and he took his shotgun. And the moment he pulls the shotgun up to his shoulder, this thing go massive bubbles, It goes straight underwater. Blah blah blah blah, booh, just massive bubbles. It vanishes and we're just left there.

22:29 Nobody says a word. I don't even know if we were breathing. We were just like, what did we just see? And we waited probably five minutes. We don't see anything. Nothing comes up. Nothing. We listened for it coming out of the water. We listened for nothing. The river probably turned maybe fifty sixty yards down. The river took a crook, but we and so I assume it swam underwater and came up around the corner. But we never saw it again. So we're standing there on the bank of that river and my friend we're just shaking. We're just shaking. But yet he's more afraid than I am, because I'm just my brain's just not letting me perceive that. It's trying to fit it into every logical box I can. And finally, after about ten minutes, he says, it's got to come up for air. And in retrospect, I believe it did somewhere we couldn't see it, but at the time he said it's got to come up for air. And then he said, we're going to stay up all night and we're going to take shifts and we're going to watch for it because that thing could come out of the water and kill us. If he would have used the term bigfoot, I would have been I'd probably just laid down on the gravel bank and in the fetal position and started to shake and cry.

23:41 But he didn't. He just said he just kept calling a monster, and he said it's going to come up. It could kill us. And so I told him, I said his name, and I said, I'm not staying up. I don't know what we just saw, but it wasn't a monster, and I'm not staying up because he said, we're staying up all night. And so the next morning when I got up, he had been up all night with his shotgun across his lap. He had kept the fire going all night, and instead of spending the weekend their fishing, he said, let's load up, and we loaded up, never set The only thing he said that morning about it he said it never came up for air, and then we never talked about it again. I don't think we said a word on the way home. We left a day and a half early from our fishing trip. Never spoke about it again. And this is one of the reasons that I do this, because I'm not saying that this was the motivating factor, but I know that my friend had major PTSD on that trip home, and he did take his life within two years of that event.

24:41 He was dealing with other demons and a good guy, but he had some problems, and so I'm not contributing his suicide to that event, but I know that on the trip home and our relationship was changed forever. We seldom talked after that. He moved away and everything was different, and so that obviously years later, I get, you know, and I'm very technically challenged. Thank God for Brenda. She's not a tech superstar, but she's the best we've got. But long before we were together, we've just been married for a little over a year now. Just celebrated our one year anniversary on March the third. Yah, Brenda, I love you. But long before then, back in the mid twenty fourteen fifteen, I finally graduated from my old flip phone, and I started to look up things about bigfoot.

25:37 And I never knew that anyone had ever seen another bigfoot in the South other than me, and I thought it was so strange, and I started to look it up, and I realized there were all kinds of bigfoot and even other cryptids that had been seen here in the South. And then I started to dig a little deeper, and a lot of people are talking about these huge red eyes, massive glowing red eyes, and I thought, wow, maybe that was a bigfoot that my friend and I saw that night in the East Fork of the Stones River. And it was close to my grandfather's house anyhow, And he kept saying monster. He could see it more than me, better than I was a little bit behind him and shaking in my boots.

26:18 But then I did some more research and I found that these things are very good in the water. Listened to Tim Coombo Baker talk about one swimming to a three hundred yards underwater in the Mississippi, and I put two and two together and I said that he was right. It was a monster, and at least it was a sasquatch. And it was massive. This one, the first one that I saw, was seven to seven and a half feet tall. I've always guessed at about three hundred and fifty pounds. This one, from the size of the head, was three times bigger than that first one. It was just unbelievably large. It's just it's hard to even wrap your brain around. But I sat on this stuff for years and years. I'm fifty five years old now, started to look on YouTube with my former i'll just say my former wife and not really like me talking about this stuff, so I didn't. And when Brenda and I got together, I said, hey, there's something I got to tell you upfront. I saw bigfoot, a couple of bigfoot in my life when I was younger, and I want to I'm interested in this stuff, and I want to go out and see if we can find one and actually photograph it. And she was like, yeah, let's do it. Sounds fun. She said she's always loved UFOs and the paranormal, and it was just an amazing fit. But that's how I found out what my second encounter actually was. And it's only been now a year and probably a year and three weeks, maybe thirteen months since Brenda and I have been out photographing these creatures, and we're just blown

27:52 away, Jeremiah with the amount we've been able to photograph in that time. So that's a little bit of the story of my early childhood started in what I saw. It obviously kept me very interested in this. That's incredible. Oh man, Revin, thank you so much for sharing all that I do before I asked some questions. In all seriousness, I'm sorry that you did lose such a good friend. Suicide is a very serious topic. If anyone's listening, I'm going to have the suicide hotline number in the show notes. There's always someone to talk to you. It's a very important topic to me. You're yeah, you're in your encounters is some really incredible things. I did have a few questions that I wrote down along the way the wavy figure on the edge of the field and then the creature walked out of the corner of the field. Do you think there might have been perhaps a portal involved or I didn't until Brenda and I started researching for ourselves, and we don't really research like most people. We do everything wrong compared to most people.

29:03 But until we did, I totally thought Bigfoot was just gigantapithecus. I thought this was just a giant thought to be extinct, a black creature that was still out there. Did not make the connection in retrospect with what we photographed of what we've seen, absolutely positively think it walked out of a portal or something similar. I don't know there are many names for this type stuff, but yeah, based on our current experience today, that's what it was. It was like I was seeing it through that kind of heat at first, But I always thought, as a you try to rationalize everything, and I always thought, hey, maybe it was maybe it was just something in my eye eye was blurry or it was windy that day, and so I remember rubbing my eyes. But yeah, in retrospect, I definitely think it was a portal that it was walking out of. It's very interesting in that situation like that, and you've probably heard of the situation that happened in sc to walk a ranch way back there was like they saw a portal type thing open up on top of the ridge and they saw like a big Foot type creature come out of the portal. You know, personally, it's not what I hold. But the cool thing about this podcast is I talked to people from all different views of there's no right or wrong about Bigfoot yet we haven't gotten the specimen to study yet, and it's just fascinating to see the different viewpoints of what makes up this creature from how different people view it. But I've actually got a question for Brenda. Did you ever have any encounters with Bigfoot

30:37 growing up? Or was your journey kind of started over this last year with Roven. I had never even thought about Bigfoot or dog man or any cryptids before I met him. I was always interested in UFOs and aliens and ghosts, never saw one. Matter of fact, I moved from Michigan after I graduated from college to Arizona partly in hopes of seeing an alien but in the UFO, but I never had. So yeah, my thoughts of I never even thought of Bigfoot or dog men or anything until Robin came along and spoke of his experience. And I know this man for years, and he is not one to tell a story for any reason to get a girl or for glory or anything. He just does not lie whatsoever. And when he told me the story, I said, yeah, I know, I haven't seen a UFO or an alien yet, so I'd love to see a big foot.

31:48 And yeah, that's how it started with us. With myself too. What a perfect match it sounds like. For sure. Over the last year, you guys have gotten it really into some interesting things. I've watched some of your videos on TikTok and it's just it's such a fascinating thing that you guys are getting into and I'd love if you'd be able to share what's the deal with the bigfoot finders and what you guys have been doing over the last year together. Sure, thank you so much. And what we've been doing is it just we can't even believe we're living as ourselves. That's how overwhelming it really is to us. In our wildest dreams, we never thought we would see the results we're seeing, and we're humbled by it. I sincerely mean that we don't think, hey, we've got this all figured out, but yes, one thing that the first thing that blew our mind was our first day out ever, and we got the Bigfoot on the cover of the book The Bigfoot Finders. There's a juvenile out front. You'll even see like a scar or some sort of a marking on his head or something where maybe there was an injury. It just all these things that you can't and the other one looking over his right shoulder, and we had if you're I'm sure you're familiar with Scott Carpenter, we'd heard of some of Scott's stuff and we're like, we're gonna go out and see if we can get a picture of Bigfoot. At the end of that first day, if you've seen our videos on TikTok, a lot of the weird cryptids that we photographed, stuff I've never seen, never heard of a far beyond dog man and little people and

33:22 all that stuff. We get all that stuff, but a lot of that stuff was in the same round of pictures that we got our first Bigfoot in. And when I say our first Bigfoot. The first day we went out, Brendan and I had a discussion and we were like, it could I told her, I said it could. Literally, it may take us ten years to get some sort of a picture. And we came back and we just had old Samsung Galaxy S eight actives that was my phone and her phone was worse if you can imagine. And we didn't have quality anything. We didn't even know what we were doing. We didn't think we were going to get pictures. We just knew were We have fun with everything we do. It's never just about finding Bigfoot or getting pictures Cryptig or dog Man. With us, it is literally about the journey. We love each other dearly, we love life, and we're living where we got started together in our fifties, and we're living more in a year and two years than a lot of people live in a lifetime. So we're so blessed. But we go out and we have a lot of fun, and we're about to wrap the day up, and I told Brenda about what Scott Carpenter had said and just to put just to make a long story short, at this point, we photographed well over sixty Bigfoot and sixty dog Man last year, which I understand people being skeptical those statements, but just check out our TikTok, check out our website and listen to our hearts, because there's no it's almost too much for us to believe, but it is true and accurate. But this first day we're out there, we smell something. It just smelled. Brenda describes it as a mix between dead animals. Dead animals and lack gym socks. Dead

34:55 animals have let gym socks. We stopped at that point and I'm just looking around, Oh what do I do now? And Brenda starts taking pictures. And by the way, she's standing forty fifty feet away from me, and she got If she would have had a decent phone, it would have been probably the best dog Man picture I have ever seen in my life. That day, she got two of them, and I am fifty feet from her same area and start photographing. Now, we didn't know we had photographed anything, but a lot of the weird and strange cryptis were in that same round of photos as the bigfoot in dog Man, So all this stuff was together. It's if I was trying to convince people, I would do it totally different. I would maybe get one clear, good bigfoot shot and that's it.

35:43 But instead we're getting all this stuff together. We didn't know it. We go back to the car. We looked through the pictures real quick. We're having a great time. We went on home, and we were set to be married a week later, and I was going out of town. Now two weeks later, I was going out of town in the interim for one week for some training work. And so this man is training on an iPad because he's technically challenged. He couldn't get a seeing this program that the company went to on the iPads, and he couldn't figure it out, so they sent him out of state to get additional training. So we do not know how to photoshop or put anything in pictures, or even take anything out of a picture. So we're not technically inclined whatsoever. Sure, and we haven't had many people say but they're like, they think this is I think.

36:35 I'm like, I can't even we can barely figure out. If it was for Brenda, we would even have a TikTok because I can't figure out how to do any of this stuff. But I'm on an airplane looking through because I'm in airplane mode. I can't do anything else. I'm in airplane mode. So I started looking through some pictures from our trip the weekend before, and I looked through the pictures of Brenda and not just having fun and having a blast and then I start zooming through the pictures where we had that horrid smell, and within a probably the second photo I looked at, I zoom in and bam, I'm looking at the cover the bigfoot on the cover of the bigfoot finders just hidden back there. You wouldn't even know they were there. I took a screenshot and I pulled it up more we didn't know.

37:15 Now we know how to light in the background a little bit and do some very simple things like that. We have much better phones. We still photograph with just our phones, but we didn't know any of this stuff. In A chill came over me as I realized I'm looking face to face at not just one, but multiple bigfoot, kind of all crashed down together, looking straight out at me. And by the way, ninety five percent of the ones we photographed are looking straight at us. By the time I got done looking through all those photos, we're seeing not just bigfoot, all kinds of weird stuff in there with bigfoot. We realized we've gotten about by the time we looked through Brenda's photos, we'd gotten six bigfoot that one day.

37:57 And I know, if I was a skeptic out there, this is the kind of stuff that used to drive me nuts. I wouldn't even listen to somebody that said things like I'm saying because it seems too absurd. And it does to us too. The problem is we just keep getting pictures of these things, and so it just absolutely blew our mind away and run over Virginia and I'm calling Brendan, I'm like, look at this picture, Timmy, what you see and just kept sending her stuff and it just kept getting bigger and bigger. And then if you saw the TikTok video, the one that we blew to life size eight feet tall. We call him Pat and he's walking away a big, muscular bigfoot. We got that one in the same round, the same day, same place. And then Brenda sent me her pictures and I started looking through them, and holy moully that I'm looking at She's got dog men in her pictures standing up bipedal just blows your mind.

38:45 And so that was kind of our introduction, and we thought we thought our first thing. It changed our mind. It changed our worldview big time because we had thought these were just natural creatures and there was a lot of other weird things unknown cryptids. One cryptied with a skeletal type face. It was only three and a half feet tall, but it looked like a bigfoot. We got just the weirdest stuff, one little owl like creature that Brenda says, the most evil looking thing that we've ever taken a photograph of. It has arms as crazy as and you can check out our TikTok if you don't believe us. We don't make this stuff up. But anyhow, we got all this stuff and we thought, wow, we must have just walked into the day of all days, the lucky If you call it luck, it's either good luck or bad luck, but whatever you call it, we called it luck, the luckiest day of our life photographing something's up. We'll never do this again. So about a week later we decided, Hey, we're going to go to this other place. It's at the other end of the state from Actually we were in Kentucky and this is in West Tennessee. Today we photographed Bigfoot in Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Kentucky.

39:54 But we live within an hour and fifteen minutes of most of those states for us to do. But one thing we do different, Jeremiah. We don't have a research area. We don't like going to the same place over and over. We like going to different places where people have never seen bigfoot, just so they beat our criteria. That's where we wind up photographing most of our bigfoot is it new places. But we went to this one place and I just all I know to tell you is you just get after you've been around them, You get where you fill in your gut when you're around them, and you just know. And something told me, hey, let's go to this area. We went to this area and we got two bigfoots that are in our book, The Bigfoot Finders. The second day we ever went out looking for bigfoot, we got two more bigfoot and we're like, wow, this has got to be like two flukes in a row. There's no way and by the way to catch people up to speed. If you haven't heard of us, or heard of our book, or checked us out or saw anything on TikTok, we ninety percent of the cryptids, ninety percent of the bigfoot we photograph we don't see. Maybe ninety five we don't see in we get home and zoom through the photos. Last year we saw seven sasquatch in real life, but we photographed well over sixty, so most of the ones we find we and the best pictures we get we find after we get home. The best ones are normally not the one we see because they've already removed or shifted by the time we photographed. But we did photograph well over sixty we don't see most of the ones just where. Everybody will understand that

41:24 until after we get home in zoom or we get back to the car in zoom. Sometimes we do, though, so we do get to see them from time to time. But Brenda and I continued on this journey, we realized that one thing that we found is is people that have to understand all this naturally just by wrapping their brain around it, by logically thinking through it. They're like, Wow, you can't have bigfoot in dog men together. That doesn't make sense. You can't go out and get so many pictures of bigfoot. That doesn't make sense. You can't where do the people always ask? Where do they put the body? We started to get photographs that we have honestly learned more from photographing these creatures than I could ever imagine possible.

42:07 The photos, once we look at them and zoom through them, they tell a story of their own and whether people believe it or not. Like I said, we've got the pictures to back it up. I'm nervous saying some of this stuff. I don't want somebody showing up knocking on my door. If you know what I mean, is not somebody wanting to know about the pictures. I don't want the men in black showing up and saying, hey, we've heard about you guys. But we've got pictures of portals, doorways, things coming out of them, just crazy stuff and things that don't make sense. And I wish I could say, hey, this is just a natural creature, but we've seen too many of them, and we've seen them do too many weird, weird things to see it from that angle ourselfs. But we continued on our journey, started getting a lot of dog man dog men. We had the same place we got the Bigfoot, about a mile away that beefrom where I just come up in my gut it was time to go. We go out hiking that same spring and we hear we're probably two hundred yards from the end of a small gravel road beside a what do they call those ponds with the is Oxbow Lake is one of those where the river cuts off and makes this U shaped big pond. And we're right beside one of those in this same area, and we're just talking and having fun like always, but we're back away from everybody. The water is just receded and we hear a massive snort. I mean it literally sounded like a rhight osprous or something, just snorting as well as it could. Brenda at that point jumped so high jumping was I almost wept myself. It scared the living daylights

43:43 out of me. And of course then we turn and start taking pictures and lo and behold what if we find When we got back to the car, we were right up. We were within probably one hundred feet of these, and it was a female dog man Shoe's standing by looking out from behind a tree, and a baby dog man out for I say baby, a juvenile out front. And that's what we saw in the pictures after we got back from that big snort. Had a second when we're fixing the post, it a second time on TikTok. But it's a very much a bipedal canine. It doesn't have the claws, it has elongated Paul looking and I think it's a female because there's a juvenile over to the side, but it doesn't show.

44:23 But that one we heard a grun and maybe some stitch breaking or some Sometimes we hear sticks breaking. Sometimes we have things thrown at us, nothing serious, rocks acorns, anytime anything weird happens, anytime we smell anything, hear anything, or there are just certain areas that we've learned to look for, and we take photos of those areas. We do not wait. I think where most people mess up when they're trying to photograph or video bigfoot or dog man is they wait till they see something, and then you're usually too late. There are some good videos out there, but our best pictures especially come from it's just either something sounds like something's there, we smell something there.

45:04 And by the way, no matter what anybody has said, we get some of our best photos when all of nature's sounds are going. It doesn't always go dead quiet. It does sometimes. I think that's more when they're in a predatory mood, maybe out hunting. But sometimes everything's going on, we'll still take pictures and still get some of our very best pictures when everything's happening around them, and sometimes it does go dead quiet. If it goes dead quiet, we always take pictures. But sometimes we had a juvenile bigfoot in Hunstville, Alabama, and we had friends out with us just we said, hey, we want to show hey, we can get these pictures with people with us. We can show you how to get the pictures. And we come back. It was throwing acorns at us. We never saw it, but we got a great picture of it. It's in the book as well, but we got a great picture of it. And after we zumed it when we got home. And so just the little juvenile sizequatch and then they're throwing photos at us. So that's some of the stuff we run into.

45:55 I think Brenda's got something to jump in with a lot of the times, why we're out, I'm busy taking pictures of butterflies and flowers and waterfalls and ook, there's a bigfoot. Got to take a picture of that now that I see it. But it's just a sunset, or it might accidentally get in my flower picture. It's just it's so strange that we see so many of them, and I feel that they know that we're not there to harm them. We're just having fun. We're just having fun work, and so they show themselves. I'm not sure why, but I just know that I don't want to hurt them. I hope nobody else wants to hurt them as well. Yeah, we don't believe that one should be captured or taken down for science or whatever. One last thing I will throw out of the seven visuals we had last year, which I know sounds extraordinary. And I don't blame folks if they said. I get people to say I've same Bigfoot, but you're lying. We're not. We've got the pictures to prove it.

46:55 No, we didn't get good pictures off well, the seven we saw. We got pictures of a lot we didn't see, but we did get some good pictures of some of the ones we saw. But every single one of those, every single one. It was maybe where we were going one direction and we felt like maybe we need to turn around and go another. Maybe we just felt very strongly we needed to be in a certain area where at the crossroads in a trail and we're taking one way and we say, nope, We've got to take that other way in the trail, and we wind up just looking straight at one it's just amazing. It's almost innate. It's just almost something that if you'll really just listen, listen to your inner compass, there you learn how to It's not just natural. There's some natural things we look for. We always look around water. We love long trails that we take the small trail off the big trail every time, and then we look for where there's a long shot and then there's a twist in the trail. We look for down to trees. They love to hang out around down trees. We get some of our best pictures there. But really it's just going with your gut. Has a lot to do with it too, But we enjoy every stuff. This is the funnest journey of our life.

48:04 And Robin said earlier than that we do everything wrong. We don't do the wood Knox, we don't do the woomps, we don't do infrareds. We don't go out at night. I mean, we get all of our pictures during the day because there's no way in heck we're going to go out in the woods at night knowing what's in there during the daytime. That's right. We would make for a good reality TV show. We're pretty boring. To see all these big fop man. Well here here's a hot take. It might that might be why you're getting all this stuff is because you're not doing all that stuff. I mean, I'm sure i'll get some comments back about that, but you're not doing the normal stuff. So I don't know. I do have a few questions for you. I'm sure that listeners are going to be like, hey, can you share the general area where there were like bigfoot in dog Man hanging out because that's not really a super normal thing.

48:54 Sure, sure, Yeah. What we don't do is we don't tell absolute specifics and there's a reason for that, but it's more about my concern of copyright and pictures that we would use here and there. And yeah, I don't want anybody, especially landowners, want anonymity, but I'll be glad to and I will tell you straight up. Another thing that really we do different from everybody is we actually thrive. We love to look for areas where nobody's ever We've never heard, there's the bfros, never reported, nobody's ever seen or heard of one that we know of, just so it meets our criteria, and our criteria is simple because we found them all the way from the Mississippi River on the very west end of Tennessee. We love rivers.

49:39 We love larger rivers, smaller rivers, anywhere there's water. Water is the number one thing we look for. Obviously, it's best when that's when that's around a large amount of woods. But we love to see how urban we can get. If you did get on our website, I don't know if we have him named, but I know there's a TikTok that we talk about him a lot. But the Jackson big which is probably the second best facial that we've ever gotten of a Bigfoot. He's you can see the skin shine, you can see the eye with you can see the width of his mouth. You can just see things that just aren't you know, you just can't make that happen on the Jackson Bigfoot. We love to see how urban we can get with Bigfoot too, because we don't always go deep into the woods.

50:22 We truly do everything wrong. But up here in West Tennessee, I'll give you some rivers. We photographed him around that people will know them. We photographed him as far east as far as we've went is Kotville Crossbow area around the Caney Fork River, the Rock Island area. We photographed there. There's one in the book from there. We've photographed all around the Obion or Obien River here. And I've only lived in West Tennessee for about a year and a half, but it's just two years. Brenda's been here for about a year and so not for different. People pronounced that river different. The Hatchie River's got a bunch, but the forkid Deer River here. Of course, that one was on the east fork of the Stones River. We did go back, haven't told a lot of people. We went back Murphysboro city limits and got a decent picture. It's not what we would call it a Grade A, but we got a decent picture there on the westbook of the Stones in Murphysboro. But just really anywhere there's water and a good amount of land. I like going to places that have been also one thing we really like to hit as if say, an area has been there's been a lot of trees there, but they've went in and messed it up and cut the timber down and piled the trees up just so it's been pretty fresh and there's woods around it. We'll get a lot of pictures of cryptage right there where trees have been downed. I think they're out there because they're mad. But we get a lot of them there, but primarily around any major river.

51:46 If I were to tell someone to start looking, i'd look for rivers down the trees, rockout croppings. We find some there. Those are just some of the natural things we look for. But then if you have maybe parks or wildlife refuges that have trails cut out in them, but trails that very few people walk, and we'll even get them all the way back to what we call we love the areas that are what we call the overlap areas, and that's where it's pretty much as far as people go mad. At the end of a little video country gravel road where there's a gate and a long trail or something. I always take a picture down those long trails and look in those areas because I think there's a place in the book Jeremiah where I say we are the bait, but we're their entertainment. They're very curious about humans. They don't show themselves very much. But ninety five percent of the ones we photographed are looking straight at us. But yet, I answer your question, any of those rivers we photographed at the Tennessee River as well, got some really good ones there. Photographed down in Tishumingo County, Mississippi.

52:46 Got a really good female bigfoot down there with that's obviously female. And we get bigfoot and dog man and everything else almost everywhere we go, as long as it meets the criteria and we look for that water and we look for we're in a state park that's pretty busy. We'd like to go in the winter when nobody's there. But that's just some of the things we look for in some of the places we've been, Revan, have you ever considered going to maybe some of the hotspots like Bankhead in Alabama or like LBL, or you hit the maybe not as well known areas, But have you ever thought of So, Yeah, we have, we went. We've been to the LBL before, and our experience at the LBL we got we had one fantastic day at the LBL of photographing. I'll just say for clarity because I'm concerned about their copyright stuff. Nothing obviously that was used in the book, but just a fantastic day of taking pictures. Since then, though, the LBL for us has really hit has been hit and miss. It's about two hours from the house. We try to say a little bit closer than that.

53:50 But we did get another picture that we've used on one of our videos. It's just like a bigfoot crawling straight down And the weird thing is on this one he was crawling straight in front of us, like in an army crawl or a spider crawl. We photographed him. We got down there, and that's one of the times we walked right past him pass where he was. We photographed him on the way down. Didn't know he was there because it was maybe his so far off and blended in We get back seem in the photos, but we realize, hey, these are the photos we went when we walked down there, and when we got right down to the bottom, I looked at Brent and I said, we've got to go. This is just one of them. We've just got to go. And so we turned around and left there real quick. I don't know what it was about that, but yeah, other than that, we haven't been to We did pick up a juvenile bigfoot in a place where it was known for bigfoot sidings, but for the most part, we thrive on places that most people have never seen one. We don't consider it a detriment. We consider it and not just a challenge. We almost considered it an advantage if there haven't been a lot of sightings there. I know that sounds crazy and against the traditional norm.

54:52 We would like to go to what is it, Salt Fork, you know, we'd like to go up there. We've got some of these places on our radar, but we have people you know, on tiktoking on YouTube and reaching out to us. So you got to check out our hot spot. And we don't even have hot spots. Man, We find them pretty regularly, so it's not really important to us as to whether most people have a lot have been seen there a lot, But we'd be willing to do that for sure, just for kicks. It'd be fun. Absolutely. Do you think there's any spiritual aspect or connection to these creatures at all? Absolutely? And I can tell you one right now that no. I believe they are multi dimensional. Personally, I have a biblical worldview, which but I think you have to dig deep, and I do believe it's tied into the Nephelom in the attempt to contaminate the DNA of the planet before Noah's flood, and the Bible says before the days before those days and after the days of Noah's flood as well. But I will tell you something that I wasn't going to mention, but since you asked that directly, absolutely, you can go to our website right now www. Dot the Bigfootfinders dot com. You can go to the speaking Engagement page. You can scroll down to the bottom picture on the speaking engagement page. If you go to it, and you'll see a picture of me standing behind a podium. It was the press conference we did to release the book and let the world know, Hey, these things are real. We're having trouble getting people's attention. And we get photographs of these things all the time, in good ones. Not all of them are that good. But if you go to the bottom of that speaking engagement page

56:23 and you look at the podium and you look at my pants, that photo was not like that when we took it. We made every effort to make sure everything was perfect. But you look at the podium on the speaking Engagement page, the very bottom you scroll in, you're going to see a face that's appearing on the bottom of that podium. And if you'll take a screenshot of that on your phone, and then you'll zoom in. You'll see very much an evil and devious looking face. And all I can tell you is, we would never put that there. Our web guy still doesn't even know it's there. And these things we've seen, the weirdest things we've seen photo manipulation. I know we're going to start to sound crazy. I won't go too deep into that because it's a whole other realm. But yes, there is absolutely a spiritual aspect to these beings, not just a sasquatch, but all cryptis. That's why there's in my opinion, there's no body or it's hard to find one. That's why they can be seen many times in very urban settings. I believe they're one hundred percent natural when they're here. I believe they eat, they smell, they leave tracks, they hunt, they have a scent, they make noise. But I believe there is definitely a spiritual, multi dimensional element to these creatures, and we've got a lot of photos that would back that up. So that's awesome. I guess same question for do you think that also applies to dog Man as well, that there's some kind of spiritual connection we talked about the nflon and that's some really wild stuff you can get into. You can. It's a deep rabbit hole.

57:57 But I will tell you absolutely, yes, we have seen. I was in Manila, and usually Brenda's with me, and I try not to do anything without her because it's our thing we do together. But I travel a lot with my job, and so I'll get to stop at different places. And I was in Manila, Arkansas, and stopped it a certain just a certain body of woods there and actually just walked right and I just felt like I was going to stop there once again. There's one of the seven I saw last year. And I look at walking down a little trail beside a lake, and there's a siequatch and it walks up real fast and just stops.

58:37 And I've got pictures. There's a TikTok of it too. But I wish sometimes I just wish. I'm like, man, I just wish I could sit down and show you the stuff on my phone. Zoom in. It'll just blow your mind. But it's a sidequatch. It's a solid creature. Now, by the time I took the first picture, it was still very solid. Is very solid. You couldn't see through it. It was solid. And then the thing morphs into its background and turns into the vines, but you can still see the outline of the sasquatch. And then there's nothing but vines. And then there's a dog man coming out of that same bunch of vines. And so there is a that would not that could not happen where it's just a natural creature. And so it makes me nervous to you know, be But we're very transparent and we feel like we're honestly as we're Christians. We feel like we're called by God to bring this stuff to light. But there's definitely a spiritual element. And yes, if this were just natural creature, you wouldn't find bigfoot and dog man. We find little people all these at the very same get great photos of all this stuff at the same place we photograph bigfoot, So that alone tells me we've got a picture of a bigfoot with a fox looking thing on its shoulder. We get pictures of these things with all kinds of other just things that it's just not natural, and creatures that maybe you know they live like a real creature, but there's just something off on them. We get that all the time when Bigfoot's around. It's just crazy. I don't know if that answers your question.

1:00:06 I can't remember I ramble so much, man, but this stuff is just so exciting to me. But if overloads your brain sometimes too, there's a spiritual element. I definitely agree, and I feel like the crazier things get out there. It seems like there's a there's been a real increased focus on paranormal cryptids in the last few years, and I think it's important. I mean, I'm a Christian as well. It's important that Christians they're able to know what's going on with those fields and not be I think there was a time frame a long time ago, or maybe fifteen twenty years ago, where people would be like freaked out or be like, oh, we don't talk about Bigfoot or dog Man. But it's important, and there's a lot of podcasts that are into that as well. There's like Blurry Creatures as a confessional as those guys. It's important that there's people in Christianity that are also talking in the field of Bigfoot, encryptids, and dog Man, and I just think it's important. I wish this were just a natural creature. I wish it were a gigantapithecus. I wish dogmen didn't exist and there was just Bigfoot and people could wrap their brain around that a whole lot easier. It would be easier for the public to receive. But so you know, it wasn't. We've had a total on the cover of our book. It says warning, this book will rock your worldview. And our book doesn't even go deep into this stuff at all. It's just how we photograph Bigfoot, that's

1:01:37 all it's about. So if anybody's being afraid of all this stuff, we don't go into that in our book, but I will tell you learning the truth will rock your worldview, and that's what most people are so frightened of. Tell people all the time. Science changes in every generation, and I think this stuff will one day be scientifically proven. It's just beyond what we can comprehend or know now. But the idiots of one generation and somehow become the heroes of the next, you know, And so so I think that this stuff will be proven as technology increases and we continue to, you know, do what we do, and many others, you know, continue to do the great work they're doing. So hopefully the truth will come out. And that's one thing that when we were younger, we were taught that this stuff is not real. There was no other planet or other life on other planets, and there was no such thing as ghosts or Bigfoot or dog man.

1:02:31 So when we grew up believing that this wasn't real, and so when you do see it, your mind has no place to put it. You're trying to figure out what that was because you weren't taught that, you didn't grow up with it. And now the generations are growing up with Bigfoot's real. Aliens are real, UFOs are real, and maybe it's a little bit easier for this generation to wrap them brain around it. Oh, I agree, Brenda, definitely. It's it's way easier for current generation to wrap their mind around it, no question. I tell people all the time, when I saw my first bigfoot, I wasn't trying to see a bigfoot. I was trying to unsee a bigfoot. I wasn't thinking that's a bigfoot. I was thinking it can't be and trying to rationalize and justify every way. And it's like your brain is a library and you're looking for a place to file it but there's no word to file it, and so that's why I believe the truth is always the best policy. Absolutely, And something I didn't mention before, I just want to say rest in peace, Scott Carpenter. I never got to talk to him, but it's very interesting and Releven and Brenda, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on. It has been a really fun and enlightening chat. Do you mind taking a few minutes just to remind people how they can keep up to date with what you're doing, how they can pick up the book The Bigfoot Finders and all that good stuff. Absolutely, thank you so much, Srema, And really what we're looking for it's not those sales, it's just connections. It's great to

1:04:01 know people like yourself and your listeners out there, because sometimes you can fill all alone doing this. But yes, the best place to get our book, and it's available on just about every format out there, but the best place to get it is to go and to connect with us in any way is to go to our website www dot Thebigfootfinders dot com. It has links to purchase the book, it has all about speaking engagements, it tells about it. We have our newsletter and you can sign up for that. It has links of places that we've been available and spoken and things like that. But more than anything, it's just great to be able to connect. But yes, the book is called The Bigfoot Finders. You can get a straight on Amazon, KDP, Lulu, and we just found out to say that it's available on Walmart dot com, but it costs twice as much there, so don't fight on Walmart, you know, so I have. There's also links out our website to our YouTube channel, our TikTok channel, and Facebook.

1:05:02 We do most on TikTok as well. We're not that good at this social media thing. But yeah, www dot the Bigfootfinders dot com is the best way to reach us. So that's awesome. Yeah, definitely, guys, check it out, check out their stuff. It is very informative and very interesting. And I just thank you so much for coming on guys. Oh you are so welcome, truly our honor Jrema, thanks for all you do. Man. Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that you're subscribed share the show with a friend.

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