June 5, 2024

Something in the Woods Did not Want Us There.

Jeremiah invites Lauren Smith from Nite Callers Bigfoot Radio to join him for an unprecedented episode filled with raw emotion and gripping tales. This time, the focus shifts from the usual to a personal narrative as Jeremiah recounts a recent and...

Jeremiah invites Lauren Smith from Nite Callers Bigfoot Radio to join him for an unprecedented episode filled with raw emotion and gripping tales. This time, the focus shifts from the usual to a personal narrative as Jeremiah recounts a recent and harrowing weekend trip in Iowa (6/2/24) with his son. Lauren lends her empathetic ear as Jeremiah details an unexpected Bigfoot encounter and the ensuing chaos involving hounds, mysterious noises, and an overwhelming sense of fear. They discuss everything from the oddities of "MindSpeak" to the unnerving experience of feeling watched and the heart-pounding moments of the night in a secluded wilderness. Lauren provides invaluable insights into interpreting these experiences, grounding the conversation in the reality of cryptid research's emotional toll. They delve into psychological impacts, the importance of corroborative witnesses, and the protective instincts of a parent amidst potential primal threats. As they unravel this spine-tingling story, Lauren and Jeremiah explore the broader implications for Bigfoot researchers, touching on the balance between skepticism and belief, and the role of infrasound in such encounters. Join Jeremiah and Lauren in this captivating and emotionally charged episode as they navigate through terror, curiosity, and the ever-present mystery that drives the pursuit of Bigfoot.

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Forward slash the Big for Society,
and now let's get on with the

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show. The following interview is myself
talking to Lauren Smith from Night Callers about

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what happened this prior weekend June second, twenty twenty four. Took my son

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on an overnight and we had some
events happen that I'm still processing through.

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I think it's important for listeners to
hear this interview and to know that I

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do understand you all in a much
different way now, and I'm very thankful

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for that. So, without further
ado, here's the interview. Of what

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happened this past weekend. Thank you
for listening. Okay, So, and

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just just to start this off,
this is not going to be like a

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normal episode. So I have Lauren
Smith here from Night Callers, and she

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is going to listen to me then
about what happened this weekend or I don't

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know, maybe some people call it
trauma dump. I really don't know.

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And then if she has any questions
along the way, she can definitely ask.

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But how do you want me to
start? Lauren? Just tell me

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you know whereabouts you were and who
you were where of the kind of what

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you had planned for the weekend.
That way, when we get to what

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happened you know, So have you
seen Tate's documentaries? Yes, okay,

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you know the two where it's the
Iowa one. Okay, so it's the

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same area, which is a place
that's in Iowa. We just can't really

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say where it is, right.
And so my kid is old enough now

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that it was I asked him at
the begend of the year, Hey,

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if you want to do an adventure
in Iowa, what do you want to

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do? And he was like,
Hey, let's go on a big foot

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adventure. I was like, oh, that's awesome. I'll totally take him

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to the spot, right because it
just would work out fine. It's not

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too wild. That's all I can
really say about that. So this weekend,

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we left Saturday morning, got to
the place, and then it was

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going to be in only a one
day thing and it turned out to be

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an overnight thing, so you know, tent camping, all that good stuff.

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So that's kind of the background of
what was going on. So what

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transpired, Okay, So I get
how people get nervous about saying everything.

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Now. I really get that a
lot because there's a lot of there's some

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stuff in this where I might so
I'm just going to say it all.

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Yeah, just take a deep breath
and tell your truth as you experienced it,

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because unless somebody was there, they
can't they can't know what you went

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through. So let's just all right
here what you went through. So,

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and I'm not saying like all this
is right here. So I've heard a

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lot of stuff when I've interviewed people, and sometimes I'm like, oh,

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well, maybe I'll just try that
and see what happens. Right, So

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we're we're on the way to the
area. This is before we get to

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the area, and I said,
okay, I've heard a few people talk

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about mind speak in my interviews,
so why don't I just try to reach

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out see what happens? Right,
So I say ask them, hey,

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can you show yourselves to myself or
my son? And we have no negative

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intentions. Okay, so pretty straightforward. We get to the place. When

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we get there, and this is
it's a long ways to get inside the

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remote wooded area, let's just say. And so we get in there and

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there's there's dogs barking everywhere in the
woods, and so we I'm like,

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I don't remember dogs being this close
to this area, which is kind of

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weird because I was just here last
year. There's a gentleman. So we're

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in a camping area, primitive camping
area. But you have to like put

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in a registration in a way,
and usually when you do this, the

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forestry workers show up really quick to
check it. There's already a gentleman parked

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in a truck in that corner and
he had a big metal cage in the

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back of his truck. So me
and my son, you know, you

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want to like show you know,
hey, this is how you treat people

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nicely and talk to him and stuff
like that. So we fill out the

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thing, put the money in there
with it, and then I'm like,

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hey, man, how's it going. So we go over and talk to

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the guy. I'm like, hey, you work in the area today,

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and he says, no, actually
i'm and I can't even do the guys

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the way he talked. He was
from deep South Missouri, and he's I'm

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here. I'm here for the dog
hunt. And I'm like, a dog

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hunt? What's with that? And
then it's started starting to click. He's

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like, well, there's this big
dog hunt going on where there are these

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hounds. There's about thirty hounds loose
in the area right now, and so

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they're going to be everywhere and the
hunters are going to be coming through to

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try to track them down and to
get the hounds back. We're like,

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okay, this is kind of interesting. So we're trying to set up camp.

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All of a sudden, like hounds
are running all over the place,

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running through camp, like these big
hounds with like spray painted numbers on the

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side, and I'm like, oh
my goodness, get in the car.

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So we I was more concerned about
him. I was like jumping the car,

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so like the hounds aren't going to
hurt anything, but we're like watching

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them from inside the car, and
like all of a sudden, they start

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fighting each other. I'm like,
oh my goodness. So we're jumping in

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and out of the car meeting me. I would have just been like,

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I came out here to find Bigfoot, and this is the exact right,

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like perfect storm of what you would
think would drive big Foot out of the

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area, and like really not make
for a conducive night of researching. If

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you're recording audio or anything listening for
sounds like, you're not going to hear

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anything over baying hounds exactly. You
and I had different reactions. That's been

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quite just you would have been out
of there. So yeah, So eventually

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the hunters start showing up. They're
beeping their horns like crazy on their trucks,

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try to get their dogs back for
like hours. About after two or

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three hours, they finally are out
of the area and we're like, okay,

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so we have camp set up,
we have the tent set up,

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all that good stuff. We start
looking around the camp checking stuff out.

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We have to pick up sticks for
the fire, all that good stuff.

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And I'm going to say we start
finding what some individuals would say is evidence,

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but I kind of say it could
be misconstrued bigfoot evidence because I didn't

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want to be, you know,
the type of person where it's just jump

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directly, like you have to analyze
that stuff. Yeah, like Mike in

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does and like you do and stuff. So yeah, potential footprint. It

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was not a footprint. It was
the heel of a horse shoe stuff like

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that. But it was like,
if you looked at it a certain way,

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it was like seventeen eighteen inches long, all that stuff. And it's

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like ben over sampling on the side
of the camp that had like a tree

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break or like it was broke off
and then it would bode over stuff like

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that. So that was kind of
like I was. I was showing him,

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Hey, this is how certain people
in the community will look at it

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this way. We're probably not going
to view this as evidence just because it's

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there's not other stuff around it.
So this is like twelve thirty and I'm

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like, hey, maybe we should
start playing, you know, let's play

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some sounds. Let's see what happens, right, So I'd played like the

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Ohio howl and the Sierra sounds on
a bluetooth speaker I have, and there's

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a bathroom area on the edge of
the camp site. So I'm I'm in

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the bathroom and while I'm in there, I'm like, oh, man,

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if i hear my son outside say
something like hey, what's that, I'm

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going to go crazy and kick down
the door and stop missing four and one

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to happen. Like thirty seconds after
that, I hear my son say,

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hey, that's weird. And I
was like, oh, my goodness,

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it's actually happening. And so jump
outside the bathroom and he's like looking across

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the cleared area fifty feet and pointing. I said, what's up, dude,

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and he's I just saw something peak
behind a tree. I was like,

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okay, well what did you see? And he's like a brownish black

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color, had a hairy head.
And I was like, well, do

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you know what the shape of the
head is? And he didn't use words

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like because he doesn't know the vocabulary, you know, like he doesn't listen

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to a podcast. He's eight,
right, but he made the shape of

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a conical figure with his finger and
I was like, oh, okay,

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great, And I was like,
how high up on the tree was it?

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And he was like, well,
he kind of pointed towards it,

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and we went over and it was
like eight to ten feet and I was

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like, well, what did it
look like a person or it looked like

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an ape? And he was like, kind of looked like both. And

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then as we talked more, he
was like, well, I mean I

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was maybe I was just imagining it. And so at the end of it

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he was like, I think I
was just imagining it, but he was

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kind of like you could tell he
was weirded out by something. Yeah,

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So we walked and that could have
been like first bigfoot experience, right,

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I don't know, but we walked
twenty feet into the woods from the tree

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line to that tree, which I
was like, this is this is a

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really bad idea, but we did
it anyways, and we went to the

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tree, looked around. Didn't see
anything around the immediate tree, but we

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did see like an area in the
leaves where it looked like something been scrounging

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around. Other people would say that's
a footprint. I'm going to say,

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it's probably something scrounging around. Even
though there was an area about sixty seven

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feet away something else had been scrounging
around too, right, right, because

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what kind of critters do you guys
have there? Do you have hogs?

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Armadillos? Have to be a little
bit careful, No, I mean in

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the general vicinity of okay, So
like here we have hogs and armadillos,

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and so if you keep scrounging around
you basically think armadillos, hogs, possums,

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squirrel demon will get you know,
looking for nuts, they'll leave little

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yeah you know. So that's why
I didn't jump to like, oh,

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it's there, it is, No, it could be something scrounging. Okay.

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So then we went for a hike
in the woods for about an hour

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or so, one to two miles
a lot of trees across the path because

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the tornado winds from recent no tree
breaks, no stretchers. We get back

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to camp, it's early afternoon,
start doing tree knocks. I was doing

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groups of three at one point,
so I hear a response knock of two

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from a far distance away. We
didn't have the talk where it was like

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if you hear something, don't freak
out. And he freaked out. He

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was like, whoa, what is
that? I was like, did you

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hear that too? And he said
yeah, there was some knocks over there

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after you did that on the tree, and I was like, oh,

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oh boy, okay. And it's
the same area where the year before I

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had heard whoops from in my tent. There are normal bird sounds in the

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forest at this time, it wasn't
super quiet, so dusk kicked in around

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six thirty to seven. It is
something weird about dusk there because it gets

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really dark really quick, and the
whole mood changes very quick, right,

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So yeah, it starts to get
a little interesting again. So I'd been

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talking to other people at the same
time, and now I was talking to

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you. Around this time, I
was talking to some other people. This

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one guy that I talked to,
he has suggested that a gentleman has suggested

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to him that there's a phrase you
can say that is cherokee, and it's

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I think it's oeo sitanga, which
is hello, great forest elder. You

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beat your chest over your head heart
three times, and you raise both your

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hands. So I don't know.
That was the first time I ever heard

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that. I was like, hey, why not, I guess you heard

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that from Darryl Denton. It was
a guy named Harley. So after I

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did that, I was like,
okay, feel great, feel cool,

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and this is awesome in control.
However, five to ten minutes later after

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that, my heart started racing like
really bad, and I was got like

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extremely scared of this situation, and
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of nowhere. It feels like I
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to calm down. I wasn't even
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I was feeling right so at the
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moving around quickly, stuff like that
normal kid stuff. So then I

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got up out of my chair to
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going on. As I did,
started to have the heart racing stuff again,

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and I was like, Okay,
this is really weird. So I

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sat down in my chair again to
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point it like things got really weird. It was a mixture of feeling like

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we were being watched or something's about
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the situation. You're like, I
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If something's gonna I'm not going to
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you've seen nature documentaries, it's like
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when someone's frog hunting and they shine
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just there. Right. It kind
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like you felt, did you feel
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It's just going to jump in so
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I've been a victim of it for
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can count. Did you feel a
pressure on your chest, like on your

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breastbone? Was there kind of it? Was it anxiety or was it more

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just absolute fear? It was kind
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really bad anxieties. It wasn't fully
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and there was definitely a fear,
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like I've been in this situation,
and when I was with the other guys,

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it was like, it's always fun, it's great, And now when

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to be here. I feel like
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hurt. I am afraid. It
just it totally changed the whole thing.

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I was like, if this is
what people are feeling when I'm talking to

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them, Like what they're like,
this is this is insanity? You know,

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like it definitely adds another layer to
when you're interviewing people. You know,

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when you go through it, you
kind of you get another layer added

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to how you're interviewed because you realize
you have a responsibility to these people.

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They're sharing the possibly the worst moment
of their lives with you. Absolutely,

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and yeah, yeah that was like
I just need to talk to someone from

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here on out, Like, if
someone needs to talk, I don't care

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what. And I've never been like
this, but I know some people are

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like it has to be a certain
type of situation. I don't care.

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It can be yeah they saw Bigfoot
at the circus if they are like freaked

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out and they just need someone to
talk to who won't which I've tried to

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always be that right, right,
I get that because it's I just felt

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the whole morning this morning, until
we drove away from the place I felt

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terrible. I was like, like, impact, it's very impactful. It's

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when you were when you got to
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headlight and my experience, what I've
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the fight or flight. Oh my
gosh, showing my heart's racing, I'm

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terrified, Let's get out of here, let's set out here, Let's get

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out of here. And then it's
it morphs into this extreme lethargy, like

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just I don't care if it eats
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even want to run, I don't
even care, Like I'm still scared,

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and I know I should be scared, but and it's almost I've wondered in

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the past if if it is a
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if it's something that they can do
to get their prey to be still,

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which is utterly terrifying when you're in
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Yeah, but you know that's what
I'm thinking, Lauren, because it's and

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the other thing I had in the
back of my mind is, Okay,

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these creatures had dogs perhaps chasing them
through their territory for hours, and now

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they are just ripped. They are
they could be mad, and we're at

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this point, Lauren, and I
can't tell you. I'll tell you how

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big this area is off the air, but we're the only campers in this

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entire area. We're it. So
you guys had to catch the fallout of

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those hounds because even if let's say
the hogs are hogs dogs, I'm not

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sure the dogs would chase the big
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I'm not going to chase a predator
that could rip me to shreds, you

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know. But what if they were
chasing the prey out of that area and

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it might have upset the big Foot
because I could see that. Oh that's

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that. I didn't even think of
that, Lauren. That's really good because

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they're, yeah, there's deer everywhere
in there, and what we're what if

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they were chasing the deer away and
that would get them met because they're like,

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I got to work more for dinner
now. Yeah. So, yeah,

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the way you explained it where it
was like you get like very relaxed

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hard stuff and then you get relaxed. That's exactly how it happened. That's

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a great way to put it.
It's exactly like that. Yeah, so

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you were relaxed and basically a buffet
at that point. So what happened then?

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kid goes to bed early, so
he's okay, time for bed, all

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right, I don't care. Yeah, let's so fine. So we get

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things already. I'm still kind of
dealing with not really caring a lot,

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but trying to care because I'm in
charge of It's a weird dicho on me,

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right, I still am wanting to
protect my son, but it's like

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there's the whole I don't know if
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then we get in the tent and
it's eight thirty, and you know,

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just he goes to sleep right away. I'm up until two forty five.

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Cannot get to sleep and I don't
I don't have caffeine or coffee or

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anything. I'm just like I can't
get to sleep. And you know,

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owls all over the place, coyotes
all over the place, normal normal stuff

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for this area. I didn't hear
any basic you know, bigfoot sounds you

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would hear at night. The only
weird stuff that happened is the tent broke,

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so like, you know, how
do you have the big poles that

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go across, like the tension on
one of the poles snapped it. And

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so this was at like one in
the morning. I was like, oh,

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this is it. We're done.
Something's I just freaked out and I

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was like, whoa, easy,
it's just the pool. It's fine.

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a point where we got and I don't

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know. I'm going to say it's
probably off of the oak tree that was

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above us. There was some oak
trees, but it was like something was

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thrown really hard at the area where
the entrance of the tent is like maybe

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acorn sized, but I can't prove
it right, Like it could have been

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something falling off a tree, but
it was like the way it was it

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hit the side of the tenets,
that's kind of hard for it to do

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if it's falling off a tree.
I don't know. I'm either way on

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that. And then I mean I
haven't gone through audio, but I finally

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just passed out at two forty five
probably, and then we got up.

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I mean we were up like when
the sun got up, when the sun

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rose, I was like, we
just got to go and we were out

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of that. We were probably packed
up by seven seven thirty. I was

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like, I want to get out
of here. I don't know if I

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want to if I ever want to
come back, like I was in a

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bad place. So right, talking
all this out is really helping because I

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want to go back, right,
It's very whenever the go back, Yeah,

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absolutely, when the fear recedes a
little bit and the adrenaline, then

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you're going to have this. You're
going to have this feeling, maybe most

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most Bigfoot researchers, this is why
we do what we do, right,

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We're actually adrenaline junkie inside, and
you're going to have this regret of I

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wish I had stayed later. I
wish I'd gone and looked at this.

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I wish I had, you know, gone into the woods and seeing what

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was breaking sticks or whatever. So
that's, you know, something that you

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might feel. Just be prepared for
that feeling, and if you feel it,

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you know that you can go back
and safely try again. Or if

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you don't feel like you can safely
do that, that's up to you.

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I was going to ask the tent
pole, Yeah, so is it a

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newer kint? No, it's well, it's I got it from well,

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it was an older model from ARII
outlet, and I'd gotten it for the

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when did I get it. I
got it last year for when we went

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to the same area, So not
really old. Yeah, because those those

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eyberglass poles, you can break them
with tension, but usually it takes a

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pretty good They either have to be
old and dried out to snap, or

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there has to be some pretty good
tension put on them. My mother had

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an experience where she had gone to
town, she left her tent and they

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had gone to today were having a
really active weekend there with you know,

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activity of the sasquay variety, and
she came back and it looked like something

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had grabbed on either side of her
top of her tent poles and just snapped

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them, and the whole tent was
just dilapidated at that point. And so

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I don't want to scare you,
but is you know how hard would it

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have been for something to reach over
and just and then you wake up and

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it's already gone, or it's just
standing there waiting or something like that,

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or do you really do something to
think about I don't know. Yeah,

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it would be interesting too on your
recording at that point of where it's now

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to see what you hear before and
after, to see if it you know,

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also the you know whatever hitting your
tent. That would be interesting.

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And then you mentioned when you were
texting me about stick brakes, you heard

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something walking and there were stick breaks
also, yeah, we heard a total

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oh yeah, yeah, the total
of two. And there was the one

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that was in the same direction that
the two knocks, and then there was

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one that was behind us at a
later time to the southeast of us.

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Actually, that would have been the
same area where my kid said. It

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would have been the same area as
that tree. Okay, yeah, I

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think about it. It's weird.
I don't know. And it's always interesting

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to have someone else there to corroborate
the what you see are here. And

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when it's a child, you know, a lot of people may not take

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what a child says, you know, they'll take it with a grain of

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salt because you know. But to
me, this is something that I say

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in my presentation all the time.
Right, Children notice things that we do

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not. We go into the woods
and we're thinking about our dentist appointment we

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have coming up, the laundry.
We didn't finish starting the fire when we

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get back so we can roast hot
dogs. Kids are like, that's a

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cool flower. I like that rock. Look, there's something looking at me

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behind a tree. Oh hey,
I'm going to go down this path.

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They have no worries except what they're
seeing, and so they can notice things

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that we would never notice. And
also, because kids are not threatning,

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they usually attract the attention of these
creatures because they're not threatening. And honestly,

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I don't know if if bigfoot knows
this, but who's going to believe

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them? If they say it's all
a big foot? Who's going to believe

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them? They're not they're not as
threatening as mankind obviously. So the fact

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that your your child does not listen
to your show, does he not know

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whose dat is onion? Really?
But the fact that your child does not

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listen to the show really does not
really know about the bigfoot? You know,

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stuff like that. You know,
that's something to jot down, and

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I would have him, honestly,
try to draw it. Get him some

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crayons and paper, have him draw
what he saw the human brain above the

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age of seven. Whenever we see
something outside the norm, we try to

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talk ourselves down a bit and not
too long after, and so encourage him

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to draw what he saw him.
You know, nothing if it's weird.

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Draw it. It's not work matter, you know, just draw what you

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saw. I want to see what
you saw exactly how you saw it.

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It's not a big deal. If
you don't remember, it's okay. If

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it looks funny, it's okay.
Just can I see what you saw and

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see what he comes up with?
Yeah, I'm going to do that,

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definitely. Yeah, Yeah, I
will be very interested to hear what you

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got on your recorder. And I'm
hoping that your recorder worked. Could the

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entire night also, I really hope. So yeah, I won't be surprised

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if it died. But that's the
curse of the big sult researcher. If

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you pull up to a place,
there will be a noise as soon as

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you get out of the car because
you didn't have your recorder going. We

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did do that. We did record
it because Chris Spencer is like, you

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need to do that every time,
like, yeah, you just start recording.

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Yes, this really and this yeps
so much and as annoying as all

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the dogs barking and everything is,
be sure to listen in between the dogs

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barking. You never know what you
might catch in between all that chaos,

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because it could might be a good
time for them to be on the move

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because those the chaos of all the
dogs is covering it up, so it's

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gonna do. Yeah. Well,
I'm sorry that you had kind of a

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weird wonky experience, but I do
appreciate you sharing it with me, And

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selfishly, I'm really excited that you
had that experience because you know, I

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know that you've been doing this for
a while now, and I feel like

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it not that you need a validation
for what you do, but I'm happy

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that you have some validation on what
you talked to everybody about. And then

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also, like I said earlier,
podcaster to podcaster, it will bring another

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layer to your interviewing. Yeah,
I think I needed it to get almost

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a swift kick, to be like, hey, dude, this is this

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is real and like the people,
this can mess with people, and you

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need to be aware of that,
and you need to be aware of what

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you're getting into, because yeah,
this isn't going to be the craziest thing

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that I get into. This is
going to be like the least tamist.

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So yeah, thank you Lauren so
much for for hanging out a little bit.

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I really appreciate it absolutely, and
I can't wait to hear when you

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go back or what audio you get. I can't wait to hear the follow

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up to that. Absolutely, all
right, I'm going to stop recording.

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All right. Again, a special
thank you to Lauren for coming on the

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show and facilitating that interview with myself. I did ask my son after this

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interview took place. I asked him, why do you think you imagined what

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you saw? And he did say
because it is so rare to see something

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like that during the daytime, which
puts an entirely new spin on that whole

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situation. As always, thank you
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thanks for listening. Her and I
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tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody
else out there listening it's too afraid to

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tell their story. Maybe this will
give them the courage to come out.

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And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I

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know what I saw, I know
what's out there. That's all I care.

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Please let people not Please let them
know. If you ever see one

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of these things, you need to
tell because if you don't, then shame

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on you you know, shame on
you.