April 6, 2026

Something Lived Behind Their House for 13 Years | Oregon

Something Lived Behind Their House for 13 Years | Oregon
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the long-term experiences of Jay from the northern Oregon coast, who spent over a decade living on a remote property near Arch Cape where unexplained activity became part of everyday life. After his family built their home along the edge of the coastal forest, strange events began to unfold—something powerful moving through the trees, heavy footsteps striking the deck, and unseen presences circling just beyond the tree line.


Over the years, Jay describes repeated encounters marked by chilling vocalizations, coordinated movement in the forest, and multiple sets of glowing red eyes watching from the darkness at varying heights. What began as a single unexplained moment grew into a pattern that returned season after season, with his entire family experiencing the phenomena in different ways, including daytime incidents that left a lasting impact.


As the encounters continued, Jay shares how the activity shaped his understanding of what might exist in these remote landscapes, touching on the deeper atmosphere surrounding the property and the way the presence seemed to observe rather than engage. His account offers a detailed look into what it’s like to live alongside something unknown for years at a time.


Join us as we explore Jay’s experiences on the Oregon coast and the enduring mystery of what was moving through the forest just beyond their home.


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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. I pick the Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Jay today. Jay is a

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listener based on the northern Oregon coast and wanting to

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share some interesting things that have happened out there over

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the years. But welcome to the show. Jay. How are

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you today?

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Good? How are you doing?

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Jeremiah doing great. I've got a lot of I mean,

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we're talking before recording, and I'm doing interviews outside of

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interviews because we've got a flap going on of Bigfoot

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sightings in northeast Ohio, So I'm talking to people and

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then talking to other people. So I love it.

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But that sounds exciting.

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It's really exciting. I love what I do. So you

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know you are going to be sharing some interesting things

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today that have happened to you over the years. I

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think that we were able to share that. You know,

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not a lot of background needed for this show. Just

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you're a listener from northern Oregon coast and I think

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we're going to leave it at that. There might be

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one or two other details, but that's about it, but

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sounds good. Feel free to take us back to when

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you started noticing the weird things going on out there

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on the Oregon coast. Oh wow, it's a good thing.

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I have a backup audio.

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Are you there, Jay?

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Are you there? Hello?

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Jay? Yeah, I'm here.

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Okay, Sorry, that was weird. Right as I handed it

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over to you, the connection it might be on my

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side or somewhere, it just went click and it was

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just like, yeah, to reconnect. That was really weird, man.

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Well things happen. Yeah, I know, as you.

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Were saying, there's been some weird things that have been

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going on over the years.

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Definitely definitely yep. All right, So you may take it

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from the.

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Top or yeah, I feel free to do so.

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Yeah, all right, so my parents bought the property I

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think in eighty nine, and they didn't develop it all

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at once, but eventually we had seven acres and eventually

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we cut a road in and then built the house.

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But that didn't happen.

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We didn't move in until two thousand and one, and

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so it's kind of a process to get, you know,

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to that point. But this house, I kind of have

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to explain. It was built into the side of a

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hill and then and then the hill extended back beyond

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the property kind of like all of the coastal ranges

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just kind of like big rolling hills in a way,

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and so you could hear everything that was back beyond

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the house in a way, because you know, whether it

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was elk bugling or coyotes going off or whatever it was,

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you could hear kind of everything. But the house was

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extremely well built. My dad made sure it was planted

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into the side of that that hillside, and so the

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first experience that so we moved in in two thousand.

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And one, I guess that should be the first thing.

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We moved in two.

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Thousand and one, and that next everything happened seasonally. This

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was an archcape, and yeah, so everything happened seasonally it

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would happen once. We ended up living there for about

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thirteen years in total, so from I moved out in

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June of thirteen, so yeah, about thirteen years.

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And yeah, so.

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I don't remember anything happening that first fall. It was

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the next spring, and the very first event was so strange.

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It so I was home alone. It was a Monday,

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and it was a beautiful day. It was a beautiful

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spring day, kind of this time of year, actually early March,

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late February. I didn't have any classes, and I was

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upstairs and I was working on a paper for a

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class and in the office, and all of a sudden,

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I heard this. You know, we backed up against the

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coast range, so that was that was literally our at

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the back of the area. I heard this crazy commotion

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coming from east side of the house and it sounded

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like I was like, is it heard of elk?

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Is it is it?

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You know, something charging, But it was coming towards the house,

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and so I was really confused by it. And I

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just heard branches breaking. And again this house was extremely

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well built, so it was just like, out of the blue,

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this thing just started charging through the forest and the

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next thing I know, it so I'm trying to figure

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out if it's elk or if it's a you know,

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earthquake or something. You know, my adrenaline just kind of

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dumped at that point. I jumped up.

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And this whole.

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Event was probably all like thirty five or forty seconds

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in total, but it broke through the tree line. And

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then I start hearing boom, boom, you know, something running.

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And I was overlooking the driveway. No one had driven up,

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there was no one there, but I'm hearing this thing,

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you know, just charging, and.

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I'm like, what in the world is this?

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You know. So I I'm on the opposite side of

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the house, if that makes any sense, And so I

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leave the office and I'm in the hallway and then

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I'm still hearing this. I'm trying to process what in

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the world could this thing be, you know. And then

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the next thing I know, we had these big wrap

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around cedar decks, and the next thing I know, it's

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on the lower deck. It was literally literally running on

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the lower deck. And so I'm hearing this footfall, which

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doesn't sound quite right to me. It doesn't sound like

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a human pattern of like how feet would move. And

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I haven't seen anybody come up. And then I'm also

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hearing this like I don't know how let's describe like

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a slap, like a slap of a foot on the

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lower deck. And I'm like, what in the world is

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going on? So I ran to the closest window, which

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was in my parents' bedroom, which was just down the hallway.

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So I ran in there because that overlooked the lower deck,

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and so I looked at but it already it was gone.

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It was it had literally I don't know how anything

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could move that fast or.

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I don't know. It was just it was crazy. It was.

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It was really just the weirdest thing. But that was

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the first experience, and that's weird.

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Yeah, it was.

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Really it was really strange, and I didn't I really

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you know, I wanted to get a glimpse of whatever

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it could be. But that was and I didn't tell

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anybody about it because I was like, well, I don't

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know what it was, and I didn't want to freak

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my parents out about like some strange person running running

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through the woods and like running around the house. But

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then over the years, the the the next experiences were

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just the vocalizations and then the eye shine. I never

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got I never got a visual on anything, but other

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than the eye shine. I did see the eye shine

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many many different times. But and I swear those eyes

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were glowing red. I don't And at the time I

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didn't know anything. Well, you know, growing up in Oregon,

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you you know, you grew up with the lore of Sasquatch,

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and I'd heard different stories, but I I really wasn't

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associating it with Sasquatch because I didn't know that that

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was something that people you know, reported or saw or

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anything like that. So I thought they were demonic like

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that was you know, being a Christian, I just thought, well,

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glowing red eyes can't be anything good, right, that was

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that was.

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That was just my take on it. So so we saw.

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I did see those through the different years, uh, and

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there was at least but I will say that the

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group or the troop that would come through were never real.

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They never they never did anything, you know, towards like

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towards the animals. I had a I had a big

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german shepherd at the time, and he was really funny.

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If I'd be out at the hot tub or something

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like that, which ironically was kind of on the edge of.

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Like the the area where they could just pick me

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right out.

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He was he was always and he had no problem

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standing down bear cougar or anything like that. But he

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would just go and turn towards the house like he would,

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and I would be my signal.

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I'm like okay.

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Well, and so I feel like we kind of had

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a tent with you know, with them. They would just watch.

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That was the main thing, Like those glowing red eyes

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would just watch and watch and watch, whether inside or

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you know, whether we were inside or or they were

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you know, outside or whatever. But yeah, it was really

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strange in that respect. But as far as the vocalizations,

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I mean, I feel like I heard.

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Just about everything.

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I mean I definitely heard the the you know, sharp

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whistles and the the you know, whoops and even screams,

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but they were way back, like they would be way back.

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The one that I think was that the kind of

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maybe the creepiest to me was the one that they

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make that sounds like howler monkey mixed with a whistle,

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and that would be in movement. It would always be

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in tandem with others, and I feel like that is

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something where they're driving prey or driving.

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Elk or deer. Whatever.

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We had all kinds of you know, everything out there,

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this area is very plentiful, so you know, whatever they

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were going after, I felt like that that's something that

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they did in tandem while they were they're hunting. And

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I've even heard a couple of times where I live now,

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But yeah, those would be the I guess that would

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be the highlights kind of everything. But yeah, those glowing

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red eyes. I really did.

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Not like those at all.

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The glowing red eyes. Do you remember anything like how

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high up they were off the ground or how wide

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they were to each other?

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So what was odd?

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So I would see them sometimes if I got home

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late from work, I would see them in the tree line,

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and the tree line wasn't too terribly far back behind

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the house, and they would be up high. They were

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up high, and they the eyes were kind of spread apart,

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and a lot of times it would be like three

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of them together and then another one elsewhere. But I

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but they weren't afraid. After we were there for like

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three four years, they weren't afraid of just being out

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there like they didn't. They didn't seem to mind us,

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and I guess we didn't seem to mind them. But uh,

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but then so where I'm area was in the in

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the daylight basement, so I had my own kitchen, my

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own everything down there. But they would they and we

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always had we had this yard that kind of went

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out a little ways and the property kind of dipped

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down and they would be out there. But then this

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is what confused me at the time too, where maybe

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I thought, you know, it's more demonic or whatever. I thought, uh,

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they would be lower than like my eye line. But

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there was always one that was much taller than the

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other ones. I don't know how tall, yeah, because that

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the property kind of dipped down by you know, five

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six feet, which once you were past that yard, so

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I don't know, you know, how tall, but he must

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have been very tall compared to the other two that

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would be next to him most of the time, which

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was weird too. I don't know why they wouldn't always

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be together. Sometimes they'd be spread apart, but a lot

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of times it would be like the three would be

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kind of like almost shoulder to shoulder to shoulder, if

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I you know. And I actually got pictures of that shine,

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but then I don't have that camera anymore and it's

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gone anyway.

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It's one of those things yeah, that's too bad.

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Yeah, I know, but okay, so I'm hearing you were

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seeing probably multiple individuals out there, multiple lights at the

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same time. Yeah, definitely gotcha. Did other people in your

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family also hear vocalizations? Oh, or see these things?

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Oh? Yeah, yeah through the years, Yeah, we definitely did.

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I know, my mom even in daylight hours, she got

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screamed out a few different times when she get home

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from work, and that was during daylight hours two and

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of course creaked her out and she'd get in the

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house very quickly.

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And yeah, we all heard you.

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No, we all heard the vocalizations. But one thing that

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always confused me too was my dad had been a

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forester for twenty five years in his first career, and

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he worked all over Oregon and Washington and all of that,

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and that's a whole other story.

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But he, you know, he never.

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Experienced anything, you know, with him, he's got all kinds

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of bear stories and every other thing, but he doesn't,

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you know, he never encountered sasquatch or anything else like that. So,

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you know, that was always one thing that really confused me.

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Although he was very open minded to the idea of it.

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We we did watch a lot of those kind of

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nature programs and shows, you know, over the years growing up.

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But you know it was kind of like, well maybe

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maybe not, who knows, you know, but yeah, no, we

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all after like I said, after about four or five

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years of hearing these crazy almost sometimes it would sound

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like it was a you know, like you were in

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an ape exhibit or something, you know, out in the woods,

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like you just hear all these weird, weird, weird noises.

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You know, we all just kind of accepted that must

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be what was going on. But we just kind of

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left it with what it was. You know, we weren't

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going to go out I wasn't going to go out

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there and shake a hand, you know, I'm not I'm

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not an outdoorsman or anything like that.

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But then we lived in the middle of the.

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Outdoors, so you know, we were we were on the

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edge of forest. So you know, I don't know, it

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was Yeah, it was crazy.

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And just so you guys had built this house on

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the property, and then did you have neighbors around you

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at that time.

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There were neighbors that were way below us, but there

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was a lot of forest in between.

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And when you say a lot, are you saying like

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miles or you could know the house acres.

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Yeah, we were on some acres, but it was still

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where we were on the edge.

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And then there was a creek on the.

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Other side and that that wasn't part of our property,

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but we had access to the creek and all that.

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So yeah, yeah, as part of putting the house up, then,

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was there a lot of like clearing brush and cutting

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down trees and stuff. Yeah.

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Yeah, And one of the things that I think maybe

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was good, you know, and listening to a lot of

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these you know You're podcast and Sasquatch chronicles and others.

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You know, my daddy cleared because he was a forester, right,

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so he had cleared a very large area for the

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house because he didn't want a tree coming you know,

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they're big trees.

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He didn't want a tree.

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Coming down on the house. And so and then my

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mom on the other side insisted on always she's from California,

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always leaving lights on around the house at night. So

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I don't you know that even though I think they

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creeped around the edges, I don't think they ever got

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you know, other than that first experience, I don't think

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they ever got that close.

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But okay, so yeah, that paints a story too. So

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I am here's what I'm getting. I'm getting that some

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a family shows up, they clear out a ton of

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a good amount of woods to put up a house,

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and then not only that, but there's lights on all

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the time, and so eventually potentially whatever is out there

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gets fed up and rushes through the woods and just

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is like I'm gonna jump on top of this house

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porch and make some racket and then you start getting

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screamed at. And I mean it kind of it kind

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of makes sense.

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Yeah, And and and it was only you know, like

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I said, it was only in the fall and in

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the spring that they would come through.

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I don't know.

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And you know, the whole energy would change when they

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would come through, like you could feel when they were

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out there. And like I said, my you know that

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my German shepherd. I don't know if I finished that story,

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but he absolutely knew when they were around, and he

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would just head for the house. You know, he didn't

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want and he was not afraid of anything at all,

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but he knew, he knew better, and he you know,

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but they also didn't mess with you know, any of

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you know, we had other other other dogs dogs and

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kids around at times, and they never they never messed

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with anything, you know, and as far as that went,

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so I feel like they kind of just accept up

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to us at the point, and it was all, you know,

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hunky dory.

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I don't know.

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Sure, were there any any conversations ever with neighbors about

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what was going on or anything?

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I thought, No, no, no.

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Not that I not that I can recall.

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Gotcha. You mentioned earlier at the beginning that you do

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have a Christian background, M and so, and so I

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I as well, and so I can you know, we

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we have a very similar mindset on things, I would assume,

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and so what I am curious about then is You've

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mentioned a few times where there was a thought that

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what was going on was demonic, and I'm wondering how

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you got to that that thought.

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Well, yeah, I mean I was experiencing I mean, whether

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whether they were around or not. It was a beautiful property,

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you know, it really was. It was an you know,

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it was incredibly peaceful most of the time, but there

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would be times where there would just be a lot

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of uh spiritual activity, you know, things would be it

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never felt like anything lasted. It just felt like things

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could move through. And I don't know how else to

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put that. I don't I don't like the term portal

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because I think that's.

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Really not quite right.

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But it felt like things could just move, I don't know,

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could move through. I would have the craziest dreams I

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would have, I mean, vivid, vivid dreams. I had constantly

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sleep paralysis, that sort of thing. And for a while

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when we first got there, I mean I was only

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eighteen when we first moved in forty two now, but

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you know, I thought I was going crazy because I

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was like, why am I seeing all you know, why

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am I seeing these things? Why am I experiencing all this?

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And then you know, I ended up with a good

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friend of mine whose dad was really into spiritual warfare.

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His dad was, and so you know, I was able

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to talk to him about stuffing. He's like, oh, well,

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I think you're just you know, you have you have

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the gift of discernment. You're able to see into that

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world and that's what's that's what's going on, and you're

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in an area where you can understand that, and you know,

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so that's I began to kind of I really delved

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into that, and I think you need to be really

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careful when you dive into that, because it's really uh,

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I don't know, I don't know how far I should

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go with that, but.

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You have to.

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You just have to be careful. You have to be

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careful of what you're entangling with. But some of it

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was really amazing too, Like there was I know that

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I saw angelic presence, I saw demonic presence.

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I saw a lot of different things there.

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And you know, the funniest thing to me is I've

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i've before and now after I've lived other places, and

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I haven't.

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I will still.

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Experience things from time to time, but I haven't had

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those experiences that I had there. And those experiences were just,

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I don't know, they just they definitely developed my my

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spiritual needs, if you will.

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You know, I had to.

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I had to figure it out and figure out how

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to navigate it.

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Yeah, okay, Yeah, that that really does put a whole

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another spin on it. If at any point I'm bringing

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up stuff that you're not comfortable with, just say, hey,

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can we move on?

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You're good?

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I think it's important though, can we Because we had

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talked before about the certain denomination of your upbringing when

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it comes to Christianity, and then I also shared, Hey,

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I I'm also a Baptist. Here's the thing. And maybe

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this is because I grew up Baptist on the other

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side of the country. They they don't play with with,

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you know, like spiritual warfare and stuff like that. It's like, no,

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I mean, my goodness, if you if you're in church

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and you like raise your hands like you're you're out

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of there, you know what I mean. Like, and that

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was Northeast where I was growing up. But it's like

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there's not really you do not play it. And it's

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it's crazy because it's not like the spiritual stuff in

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the Bible stopped happening in the Bible. It's like you

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don't play around with the spiritual stuff. Well, well, I mean,

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come on, guys, it's like, what what's going on? There's

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this whole spiritual background we can't see or it sounds

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like in your case, you were able to kind of

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see what was going on.

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Yeah, I definitely I could.

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I could feel it, I could sense it. I could

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you were living there, Yeah, I could definitely see it.

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I mean from you know the little I don't know,

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like black balls you know, going through you know, like

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those sorts of things or or even you know, the

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and the angelic presents differently. It presents as like, uh,

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sphere almost like spheres of light. It's very different, but

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it's it's the exact opposite and the exact opposite feeling

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that it gives as well. But yeah, it was very

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it was very present. There after I was able to

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really figure it out and figure out, Okay, this is

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this is what I'm dealing with, this is what's going on,

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and I've got a well especially with I think the

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thing that bothered me with the most was the sleep paralysis,

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you know, because I would have that and I would

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it was like at least once a month, at least

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once a month, and you know, you couldn't. I couldn't.

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It would be holding me down so hard that I

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couldn't speak, you know, I couldn't even and the only

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thing I can get out was in the name of Jesus,

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you know, leave and then it would go, you know,

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but I but it would.

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It would.

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I would have to work up to being able to

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even get that out, you know, and yeah, I don't.

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I don't know.

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It was that was the thinking back on it now,

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is my older self I don't know. I mean, it

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was the weird because I haven't experienced it in so

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many years. But but that was that was the worst.

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I hated it and I would literally have to.

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I would go to.

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Bed and I would I would, you know, you know,

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say a prayer. Oh, I just need to be looked after.

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I need you know, I need protection, you know all of.

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That, because I I just had to. There was no

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other way around it.

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Okay, there's a few things from that. So you were

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you were actually seeing You're saying black orbs of light?

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Oh yeah, yeah, okay.

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Yeah, because that's going to be depending on your world

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word worldview that you're listening to this with, that's going

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to be interpreted multiple ways, because you know, as as

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you've listened to these shows, I mean, that's that's part

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of what people are seeing when they have Bigfoot around,

470
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.359
which is you're seeing orbs of light and it's it's

471
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.680
very interesting. So you're you're more interpreting them as a

472
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:24.799
like an angelic type of presence.

473
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.680
Well, I don't know if I'm I don't know how

474
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.359
I'm interpreting them is I don't know what they are?

475
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:31.839
That's what.

476
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:35.319
Yeah, I feel like that's the question. I feel like

477
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:39.359
there's so much circumstantial evidence at this point that like

478
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:41.759
the question is what what are they?

479
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.039
Or what are certain ones?

480
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.640
Because it could depend on what area you're you know,

481
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.680
you're in I don't know, you know, but I don't.

482
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.599
But they weren't around all the time, you know. I

483
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:57.359
come back to that. The other stuff happened like all

484
00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:02.079
the time, so you know what, you know, what piece

485
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.519
is this and what piece is that? I'm not really

486
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.559
sure sure, okay, And that makes any sense?

487
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.839
Yeah, it does. Are they were they different colors or

488
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:15.200
different shapes or sizes or were they pretty much uniform?

489
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.799
Oh well, I mean when when I would see, well,

490
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.119
the demonic was always dark. Sometimes I would see you know,

491
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.519
I could see more in my dreams than other things.

492
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.640
But the Angelic was always light. The Angelic was always

493
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:31.519
beams of light.

494
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:32.000
You know.

495
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:37.440
That's that's how they presented. Was were as beams of light.

496
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.920
But at the same time, and and I could sense them,

497
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.200
you know, sometimes I didn't see them, but I could

498
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:45.880
sense them around and back and forth.

499
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:46.240
You know.

500
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.480
It was kind of it was it was a very yeah,

501
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.440
strange thing in that sense, but yeah.

502
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.960
Okay, was there any correlation of they would show up

503
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:00.240
around times when there might be Bigfoot activity, or did

504
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.319
they not really seem to be connected at all.

505
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:05.680
I suppose they did, but I don't.

506
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:06.759
I mean I wasn't.

507
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.400
Unfortunately, I wasn't documenting, and I think back on that

508
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.000
and I'm like, why wasn't I writing all this down?

509
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.880
But you know, in the very beginning, I wasn't thinking, well,

510
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.079
I don't know. Well, at in the beginning I thought

511
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:23.079
I was going crazy. But then but I realized, okay,

512
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.640
then we're all experiencing things, you know, as a family,

513
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.599
and it's like, okay, well you know there's more going

514
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:29.039
on here.

515
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:33.960
So so sorry, I remember why I brought up the

516
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.160
Baptist thing. I was like, yehy did I bring that up?

517
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.960
I just remembered why. So this might ruffle a bit

518
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:46.799
of feathers for certain listeners. So you got to understand.

519
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:51.519
So most Baptists, they don't get into the spiritual warfare

520
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:54.480
stuff or like like no gifts of the spirit. That's

521
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.519
like we don't talk about that. It's not whatever. But

522
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.559
so I bring that up because it's not like you're

523
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.720
in a denomination where it's more like assembly of God.

524
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:11.440
Per chance, where you're constantly that's in everything you're talking about,

525
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.519
you know, like the spiritual warfare and demons and angels,

526
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.440
so you're like really immersed in that. So that kind

527
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.680
of it gives your account a whole different viewpoint because

528
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.279
you're you're Christian, so you had that worldview, but you're

529
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.599
a part of Christianity where you're not really playing around

530
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.440
with that stuff, and for it to start to happen

531
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:32.599
to you, that's pretty wild.

532
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.119
Yeah, But I also grew up in a family that

533
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.039
was very okay with that. I had a grandfather that

534
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.920
was it had the gift of healing and so a

535
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.839
great grandfather and so I he lived bee hundred and

536
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:48.559
six years old.

537
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.839
So I you know, I kind of.

538
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:55.960
Grew up with knowing that this is maybe how we're

539
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.640
being taught, but we're not being taught everything. I also

540
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.079
have a little bit of Cherokee Chocta in my blood,

541
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.160
so maybe that affects something somehow. I don't really know.

542
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.920
I don't have that much, but I have a little bit,

543
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.279
So I don't know. I mean, all again, one of

544
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.839
these it's a puzzle piece as far as all that goes.

545
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.160
But I was never taught to not be okay with

546
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.079
the spiritual. And I think because I did experience things

547
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.400
when I was a kid as well. You know, I

548
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.599
did experience certain things, So you know, I think I

549
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.960
always was aware and and you know, had I had

550
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.599
siblings that had experiences too, so I think it was

551
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:37.720
always just kind of there.

552
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:38.799
I don't know.

553
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.200
Yeah, now that makes sense, especially when you have that

554
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.200
other pieces of information. It may have been something where

555
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.200
it was more dormant in a way, but which you know,

556
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.559
if you listen to other accounts sometimes if you have

557
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.359
things in the family history that can that can affect

558
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:02.920
as well. But why do you think that utilizing or

559
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.400
saying the name of Jesus was the only thing that

560
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.480
would like stop your sleep your sleep paralysis episodes.

561
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.039
Well, there's power in the name, amen, that's it. There's

562
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.119
power in the name. I think that's what it comes

563
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.039
down to. And you know I would when those eyes

564
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.759
I would see them out outside that lower basement, I

565
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.519
you know, I'd pray against them because I didn't you know,

566
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.240
I literally thought it was something demonic at the time,

567
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:38.279
and they'd go away. So there's some sort of there's

568
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:43.359
I'm not saying that bigfoot are spiritual necessarily or what

569
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.920
they are, but there's some sort of connection, there's some

570
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.440
sort of I don't know.

571
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.079
That I would, I would, I would testify to that.

572
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:58.319
I think there's there's some sort of connection between them

573
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.720
and God.

574
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.880
You know, I don't know.

575
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:12.640
And at the very least anything that is on the

576
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.599
earth or or there is under you know, the power

577
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.440
of the namages, as you said, right, So it's like, yeah,

578
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.799
we may not know exactly what they are, but that's

579
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.119
just fascinating. So you were able to get the glowing

580
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:28.480
red eyes to get out of there, but yeah, praying

581
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.000
and yeah, yeah.

582
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:34.519
They would leave, they would leave, and so yeah, and

583
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.559
I you know, and so that maybe, well that made

584
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.880
believe even more that they were obviously well they had

585
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.319
to be demonic then, you know, I didn't. Again, this

586
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.799
is back in the early oughts, so like you know,

587
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:50.240
like there just wasn't that much information about you know,

588
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.440
I mean, obviously there were books and things out there,

589
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.920
but there wasn't as much information as there is now.

590
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:55.640
Now.

591
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.839
Hearing other people's accounts and stories, it's like, oh, well

592
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.920
that kind of you know, matches what happened with us

593
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:09.519
and what happened there and all that. So so yeah.

594
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:11.640
There's at least one other episode I've done about Archcape,

595
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:18.960
which is interesting because it it kind of goes into

596
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:25.079
it a little bit where the witness received a like

597
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:28.599
telepathy or telepathic message to leave the area while sitting

598
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.880
near the tree line. So that's kind of like, well, yeah, there,

599
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.680
you know, that's something else that might be going on.

600
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:38.039
But did you guys ever, did anyone ever report having

601
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:44.599
any any messages or or telepathic type things happen or

602
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.759
weird thoughts or no.

603
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:48.400
No, nothing like that.

604
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:53.680
I did, you know, I would have various times friends

605
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.680
come over, spend the night or whatever, and they there

606
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.680
were different people that'd be like, I am coming back

607
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.039
to that house because whatever, you know, whatever experience, dream

608
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.480
they had, whatever else it was, they were just uncomfortable

609
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:08.839
with it.

610
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.000
And then I had a friend.

611
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.599
Of mine that he had driven up, probably was towards

612
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.119
the end of when I was living there, but anyway,

613
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.960
he had driven up and he was there a little

614
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:20.680
bit before me.

615
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.119
It was later at night, and.

616
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:29.920
He saw all these orbs, you know, glowing or I

617
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.759
never saw that. I never saw like the you know,

618
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.359
round glowing orbs. I never saw that, but he saw that. Anyway,

619
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.839
he was. He was charging down the driveway as I

620
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.200
was heading up, and I was like, what's going on?

621
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.400
I thought you were coming over and he was like,

622
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.480
oh no, I you know, he was like I just

623
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.279
explained exactly what he saw, and I was like, oh, okay, well.

624
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.480
That's really strange. I've never seen that.

625
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:56.400
And so I, you know, drove up and nothing was there.

626
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.440
Nothing was in that that side of the forest. But

627
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:01.240
I just had the.

628
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.720
I just had the weirdest feeling being there, and I

629
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:06.440
was like, I was trying to like kind of pray

630
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.400
it away whatever, and it just wouldn't go. So after

631
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.920
about I don't know, thirty minutes or so, I'm like,

632
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.280
I'm going to go stay somewhere else.

633
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:14.679
So I went.

634
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.280
I went to another friend's place and spent the night

635
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.880
because I just couldn't. I don't know, the feeling was

636
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.159
just the the energy was just too off.

637
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:28.519
But yeah, absolutely, so. Yeah, I'm trying to remember exactly

638
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:32.920
how you put it. You're saying that you don't you

639
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:38.760
don't believe in in portals, but you think, well, I

640
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.239
don't think it's going on there for definite Yeah.

641
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.480
Yeah, I don't know, I don't. I mean, I don't

642
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.840
like the term. I just don't like the I don't

643
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.039
like the term I think, but I do think. To

644
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.960
put it another way, the atmosphere was very thin, if

645
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.320
that makes any sense, to where I felt like there

646
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:05.119
there could be positive, negative, whatever energy movement through that

647
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:11.000
area where we lived, that just could move through. And

648
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:16.199
that's what it felt like, because it didn't feel like, yeah,

649
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.960
I didn't feel like it could necessarily be exercised from

650
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.199
the place. It just felt like this was a fault

651
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.960
line where things could just move through.

652
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.639
Don't Yeah, no, it makes sense. I've been in areas

653
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.599
where I'm trying to think of how to put it.

654
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:40.239
You can feel almost like the atmosphere shift, yeah, and

655
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:44.519
you're yeah. A few times I've had it happen. I've

656
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:50.280
been like, uh, oh, yeah, get ready because it's I mean,

657
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.760
it's either bigfoot or or if it's happening somewhere else

658
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.039
and you're not out in the woods, then you need

659
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:01.960
to be ready for whatever be in the place where

660
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.239
you're at with you, you know, right.

661
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:10.119
Right, that's yeah, and that's exactly how it was. Yeah.

662
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:12.239
Yeah, I don't know, and I don't know that that

663
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:13.880
whole area is that way.

664
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.159
I mean, we we.

665
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.920
We really did butt upright against the forests. So I

666
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.079
don't really you know, I've been I've driven through there

667
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.239
a million times, but I've never and I've been to

668
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.719
other friends homes that live down in that area, and

669
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.440
I've never really.

670
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.239
Felt that same kind of energy.

671
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:35.760
So I don't know that it's like that whole area

672
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.719
of arch Cape or anything like that.

673
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.519
But I do know that.

674
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.599
It's very remote. It's you know, it's it's a very

675
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.639
very rural area.

676
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.679
You know, you're right along the one on one.

677
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:50.880
There's not much that goes up towards the towards the

678
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.360
trees in that sense. Most of it's right along you know,

679
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.519
the beach, which is where the multimillion dollar homes are.

680
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.679
But you know, there's there's not a lot that's on

681
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.880
that other side. So I don't I don't know.

682
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:03.480
I don't know.

683
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:06.960
It'd be interesting of other people have other, you know,

684
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.679
other experiences from that area.

685
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:09.159
For sure.

686
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:15.159
It is a fascinating story, or it's a fascinating account,

687
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:16.840
I should say.

688
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:17.079
And.

689
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:24.199
It's just it is, man, it's really interesting. It's come

690
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.960
out a few times lately, stuff that's not out yet.

691
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.760
Where talking to this one guy in Oregon over by

692
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:36.239
Mount Hood and he was having all sorts of oppression

693
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:44.039
and to do with bigfoot and spiritual stuff. He got

694
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.320
a Jewish footground, so he was using all these Jewish

695
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.800
names and he didn't really know anything about, you know,

696
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.719
but he just happened to use the name of Jesus

697
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.199
and it like made it all get out of there

698
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.440
and he's like, oh what, what what's up with that one?

699
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:00.400
Right?

700
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.960
Yeah, well, yeah, there's something up with that one for sure,

701
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.480
but yeah, that's awesome.

702
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.679
So well, I do know that, you know, on on

703
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.880
West's site, you know, he has he has some accounts

704
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.360
of that as well, because that's where I first started

705
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:19.760
listening to, you know, bigfoot things, and uh, you know

706
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.639
he has he does have multiple accounts of people.

707
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:25.800
Like praying it.

708
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.599
Off, you know, and it's like it is it's a

709
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.239
really what's what's the I don't know. I don't know

710
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.639
what's the connection there, but I do think that there's

711
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:39.639
a connection there, and I think it's something that I

712
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.719
don't know, you know how I don't know. I mean,

713
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.719
I'm not one that's a researcher or a woods person

714
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.519
to go out and you know necessary look for them.

715
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.719
Especially not on my own property, but you know, I

716
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.280
would definitely I wouldn't mind seeing one, you know, somewhere else.

717
00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:00.280
But yeah, I don't know. I don't know to say

718
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:00.679
about the.

719
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.480
Rest right And I was going to ask that as

720
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:07.159
well here near the end, which so it sounds like

721
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:11.239
you're at the point where you've had all this stuff happen.

722
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.320
But at this point, you know, you're kind of into

723
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.039
the Bigfoot stuff. You'll listen to this stuff, but you're

724
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:22.039
not actively looking to try to figure out the mystery. No.

725
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:26.599
I mean, I I like the idea. I like the

726
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.599
idea of it, but then at the same time, I'm like, well,

727
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.159
I don't know, I don't know if I really I

728
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:34.559
feel like I know enough and I don't know. I

729
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.079
don't know that I really want to do more digging.

730
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.199
I guess yeah, but maybe I don't know. I'm kind

731
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:41.960
of fifty to fifty.

732
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.599
I guess I get. I definitely get. I think it's

733
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:49.719
it's important that listeners get that because there's a lot

734
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:54.079
of people that listen to shows like this where they're like, oh, yeah, Bigfoot,

735
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.800
I love the encounters and stuff. I'm going to start looking. Well,

736
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.480
you need to be aware so a lot of the

737
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.679
old time would tell me when I first got into

738
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.519
this to be be careful. I would be like, I

739
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.320
just want to have an encounter. I'm still like that,

740
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.079
but I just want to have something happen, and be

741
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.480
careful what you wish for and like you get it,

742
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:13.719
because if you start to get into it and you

743
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.039
start to get out there in places like organ or

744
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.320
or wherever, and like, it does get weird. And as

745
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:21.880
I'm saying.

746
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:27.320
It's more, it's more the mental stuff. It's that you know,

747
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.239
whether you look at that is you know, you know,

748
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.960
people have all different labels. I look at it as spiritual,

749
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.639
but you know, energy or whatever you want to say,

750
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:42.880
there's something really different about whatever these are, these this

751
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:49.440
you know sasquatch are that needs to I don't know.

752
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:55.559
You just have to be kind of wary on it.

753
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:58.440
I don't know how else to put it. But but careful,

754
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.960
careful what you want, and careful what you wish for.

755
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.239
And that's what I would say. And and again I

756
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:10.320
never had a bad, you know, experience by any means.

757
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.840
I definitely didn't. Other the first run around was kind

758
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.519
of weird, But other than that, I mean, you know,

759
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.239
we didn't really have anything bad and nothing happened. But

760
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.920
at the same time, you know, these things are very powerful,

761
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.039
and you know, if you do end up with you know,

762
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.440
say a rogue one or whatever else, I mean, they

763
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.079
could do some real damage.

764
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:32.679
I would think.

765
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.559
You know, absolutely, I agree with you. I mean, it's

766
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.960
it's a fun topic, but yeah, you got to be

767
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.039
aware and prepared and whatever you find your strength and

768
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:48.239
you need to be prepared to rely on that. And uh,

769
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:49.960
because you never know what's going to happen. It could

770
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.840
get really really wild out there, and it could get

771
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:54.519
wild in your own home too afterwards.

772
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.800
So yeah, yeah, but don't be afraid to use. This

773
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.280
is what I would say to your listeners is, don't

774
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.880
be afraid to use If you're a Christian, don't be

775
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:05.320
afraid to use the name of Jesus, because it will

776
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.719
it does do things, it will shift things. I can

777
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.000
promise you that.

778
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.599
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent on that.

779
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.039
But Jay, thank you so much for spending some time

780
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.840
and sharing what your experiences were. And I just want

781
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:27.079
to make sure that you were able to share everything

782
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.559
that you came to the show to share about today.

783
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.199
Yeah, absolutely, thank you. Jeremiah. I appreciate it and appreciate

784
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:33.679
all you do.

785
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.320
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

786
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.599
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

787
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.480
would love to get out in those woods and experience

788
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.039
it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.

789
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.639
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

790
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.880
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming uply tenth through

791
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.039
the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even better

792
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.719
than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one

793
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:13.119
of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll

794
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:17.880
say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else,

795
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:23.719
because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just gotta

796
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.119
be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for

797
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.320
Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You

798
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:36.000
may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

799
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:39.719
this year you can not only go to the festival,

800
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:47.960
but you can also sign up for a track deep

801
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.320
in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

802
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.920
to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

803
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.119
eight spots to sign up for this and yes, this

804
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:03.079
will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

805
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.519
documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

806
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.039
once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going

807
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.880
to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

808
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:18.239
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

809
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:23.800
can use the code b SP like Bigfoot Society podcast

810
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.400
in order to get a two day pass for the

811
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:30.599
price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

812
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.639
for giving me that code so that you guys can

813
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.159
can get a little help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

814
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.840
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

815
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.280
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

816
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.599
to talk to so many people last year and the

817
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.800
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

818
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.679
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

819
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.280
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

820
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:05.559
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

821
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:09.320
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

822
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.199
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

823
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.519
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

824
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.519
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

825
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.800
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

826
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.440
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

827
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.679
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

828
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:32.119
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

829
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.440
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

830
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.800
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

831
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.960
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

832
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.440
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

833
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.360
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

834
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.719
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

835
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.760
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

836
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.960
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your face,

837
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.079
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

838
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.480
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

839
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.320
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

840
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.599
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

841
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.480
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

842
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:26.280
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

843
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:30.679
We've got the mic see you in the woods. Thank

844
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.559
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

845
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.039
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

846
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.199
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

847
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.119
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

848
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856
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.039
a bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

857
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.719
so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

858
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865
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.559
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866
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.360
trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

867
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.079
be out there, And see you in the woods.