April 16, 2025

Something Was Watching Us on Mount Mitchell!

What happens when a Navy veteran and his friends take a late-night drive into the snowy wilderness of Mount Mitchell — and stumble across massive footprints that shouldn’t exist?

In this intense and thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Greg...

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Season 1

What happens when a Navy veteran and his friends take a late-night drive into the snowy wilderness of Mount Mitchell — and stumble across massive footprints that shouldn’t exist?

In this intense and thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Greg Zapp, who shares the story of a spontaneous 1993 trip into the remote North Carolina mountains that turned into a brush with the unexplained. With snow piling up and no one else around for miles, Greg and his friend found themselves face-to-face with 18-inch tracks in untouched snow — and the eerie sense that something was watching from the trees.

You’ll hear what happened as they raced back down the mountain, grabbed a camcorder, and returned to document the tracks. You’ll also hear how that night changed Greg’s understanding of the world — and why Mount Mitchell remains one of the East Coast’s best-kept secrets in the world of Sasquatch sightings.

This isn’t just a story about what they saw — it’s about what followed them home in memory, and why they can never forget it.

Featuring real locations like Buck Creek Campground, Little Switzerland, Fire Tower Road, and the Blue Ridge Parkway — this one will make locals listen twice and skeptics think twice.

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BFRO report: https://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_report.asp?id=3339



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You're listening to Bigvo Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's

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story doesn't come from a researcher or a thrill seeking camper.

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It comes from a Navy veteran just back from service

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who took a snowy drive into the mountains of western

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North Carolina and came back changed forever. No cell phones,

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no internet, just a nineteen ninety three night on Mount Mitchell,

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a jeep, a few friends, and something waiting in the snow.

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Massive footprints, deer frozen in place, and the undeniable feeling

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that they weren't alone out there. They didn't go looking

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for Bigfoot, but something was already watching them. This is

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the story of Greg'szapp in the night the mountains went silent.

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Stay with us.

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I Big That Society. We got the privilege of talking

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to mister Greg Zapp today. Greg is an individual I

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got connected to over on the x or Twitter platform

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some people might know it as and we got to talking.

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It turns out Greg has some interesting things that have

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happened over the years. We're glad to have Greg on

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the show here and how's it going today?

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Greg? Very well, Jeremy, and thank you for having me.

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I really appreciate it absolutely, sir.

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Well, you know, I want to make sure that we

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have the time for you to share what you experienced after.

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You know, we were just talking about we got a

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little blizzard coming in here in Iowa, but I think

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we're gonna we're gonna make it through. But you know,

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feel free to take take it from here, sir, and

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take us back to when this all started happening for you.

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Sure thing. I grew up in the western North Carolina Mountains,

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just under Mount Mitchell, and anyone familiar with the area

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knows they closed the parkway after probably around Halloween. They

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used to close it because it started getting heavy snows

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past the Little Switzerland all the way up to Mount

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Mitchell and then down on the other side going into Asheville,

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usually about the Weaverville where you pop off the parkway

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and go into Weaverville the back way. That's usually where

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the gate is open again, or the parkway opens up

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down south to Atville. My friends and I we used

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to love to go to Buck Creek Campground. Buck Creek

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Campground is right off of eighty, right off the parkway

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going up to Mount Mitchell. It's Carolina hemlocks that area,

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and it has a road at the back of the

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campground that goes to the Parkway. Sometimes that gate is

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open in winter and sometimes it's not. I haven't been

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there in years. I don't know what the status of

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it is now. When it would rain in Marion and

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Spruce Pond, wherever we happened to be that night, and

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it was thirty five thirty six degrees, we would always

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go up to Mount Mitchell see if we go hang

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out in snow. We never gave two thoughts to anything

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else other than seeing snow. That was our entire purpose

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for going up there. So we've done this several times

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over the years. I'd just gotten out of the military.

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It's March of ninety three and it was thirty four

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to thirty five degrees down and Marion I was visiting

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my friend. I wasn't quite out of the military, but

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I was really close and he said, as usual, let's

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go Mount Mitche. Let's see if can get up to

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the top of Mount Mitchell. Okay, no problem, We're getting

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his jeep. He had a CJ seven, very good at

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driving in the snow, because when you go to the

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Parkway and there's nobody there. You're the only one in

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and out right, so I know the whole night nobody

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came behind us. I'm skimming ahead. Sorry. That night we left,

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we went to Bucks Creek. We got there, went to

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the back road, got up to the parkway. The gate

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was open, not an issue. Got on the parkway three

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four inches of snow. It took us probably till ten

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thirty ten forty five at night. It took us about

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an hour to get up there from Marion. It wasn't

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that bad. At the top, they usually have a gate

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that closes off going to the welcome center and the

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campground because it splits off in a couple. There's the

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one road that goes to Mount Mitchell, one way in,

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one way out up to the top of Mount Mitchell

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from the parkway. That probably mile and a half road

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is where we had our whatever happened, we go all

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the way to the top, or excuse me, we go

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as far as we can before the gate right before

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the welcome center of the gates closed. We mess around

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in some snow drifts because right there is where the

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snow drifts come over. Goofed off, got in the jeep,

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came back down the hill. As we're coming down the hill,

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you'll I've got it marked on a GPS spot and

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when you take out the trees you're able to see

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how it was in nineteen ninety three, thirty two years ago.

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It's flat right off the road, but then there's an

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embankment that goes up, and of course the hill the

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mountain continues going up because you're coming down the mountain

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at that point. Just a little bit. We come around

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the right turn and there's deer, deer tracks, deer jumping around.

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We get out. We look at the deer tracks. Oh

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that's cool. It's my friend and I. He's driving. I'm

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in the passenger's side. We go probably a quarter mile.

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We see those deer deer tracks. Get out. Look that's great.

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Get back in the jeep. Go down again. I see

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more tracks, but it looks a little bit different. And

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I told my friend to stop, and he said, no,

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I'm not going to stop. It's just deer track. And

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he stopped. I got out, he said, I instantly turned white,

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trick white as a sheet. I felt. I felt immediately frozen.

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If I just froze, I couldn't move. I was astounded, stunned,

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and what was there was a huge footprint bear. There

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are no other tracks. Nobody knew we were going up there.

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It could have been a hoax, absolutely, but I'm telling you,

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nobody knew we were there. I didn't give a crap

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about Bigfoot. I never gave two thoughts to it, never,

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never in my life. And I can just I can

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still see it. So I jumped ran back to the jeep,

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and he said, what's wrong? Because I was telling him, googy,

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get out of here, to get out of here, get

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out of here. He said what He stopped, He got out,

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he went, He looked and I saw him his face

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he turned white, white as a sheet. He come running

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back in, jumped in the jeep. We took off and

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it took about ten seconds. Wait wait, wait, wait, somebody

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is messing with us. Somebody is having somebody's hoax and us.

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There's a ranger up here. He's you know, he's messing

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with us. Somebody. This can't be real. This has got

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to be a joke. We turned back around, We go

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back up to the clearing. We only went maybe one

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hundred yards down the road before we stopped and turn around.

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So we get out. We look and that whatever it

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was with no shoes, whose feet were eighteen inches sixteen

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seventeen inches long in the snow, was standing there with

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the deer. So we had a spotlight. He took the

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spotlight and went up in the tree line above us

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and eyes flash and I crap my pants. It was deer.

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But still it was kind of funny because like, oh,

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and it was deer, but seeing that they were still there,

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and I thought that, I thought that whatever was with

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the deer and whatever was watching over was watching us,

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and it was just you just got a funny, funny,

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funky feeling. So and looking at what the deer did.

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They went up one way up the embankment, but whatever

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was standing there watching get this so you can plainly

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see it goes uphill. Now, now we did go back

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down and grab a video camera and come back up,

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and I'll get to that in a minute, because we

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had to document the strides of how far this whatever

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it was, traveled, because you can't. I couldn't hoax it

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no matter how much I tried. The the area was

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a little flat, goes up a hill on up a

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small embankment, so it had one foot at the bottom

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of the embankment, its left foot was at the bottom,

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its right foot was in the middle of the hill,

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but its right foot was pointed towards the road, and

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its left foot was just above it, pointed towards the woods,

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going straight uphill. Okay, So as we looked and discovered

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the position of everything, we think that we were so

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freaking close to seeing him eye to eye when we

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came around the corner, because his foot was pointing at

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the truck coming around the corner. You know, he was

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watching us come around. And then he jumped one more

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step up on top of the embankment, and then he

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took off through the woods. So one at the bottom,

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two in the middle, one at the top. I went

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over probably five seven feet left of him and did

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my best to get up the hill. And there's a

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foot of snow. There's more than a foot of snow

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at this point, because this was an hour later and

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on top of Mount Mitchell. So we stayed there a

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pretty good while, and it snowed pretty hard. It took

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me eighteen steps to get up that embankment. I'm six

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foot two, two hundred and ten pounds, and I was

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a heck of an athlete. Still am I'm close to several. Yeah,

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I'm not a lazy person by any means. So whatever

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it was had zero problem climbing up that hill in

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three And that would have been impossible for me in

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the dry land if it was flat impossible for me,

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maybe not somebody else but me let alone and over

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a foot of snow. So we haul back down the mountain,

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grab the video camera, Grab our other friend, Jeff comes

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with us. We all get up there and he's thinking

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it's a hope. Well we're telling him the truth. Well,

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this is it. This is blah blah blah, blah blah.

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We get up there, we film it. We filmed the

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whole site, and it snowed a little bit. It was

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a little rough. I mean, this is nineteen ninety three,

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so it's not you know, four K ultra vision. But

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my friend has downloaded that to Google and you get

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a sense of you can see where it went up

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the hill and went up to the embankment and how

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big the size of the prince were compared to my shoe.

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And I was wearing a size twelve boot at the time,

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and it just was one and a half the size

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of mine. Five distinct toes huge man. It was huge,

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and it sank all the way down. You know, I

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did not even at two ten, two twenty. I didn't

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sink all the way down, but it did. We filmed

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it and put it on Google. Forgot about it. My

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friend found the tape after his mother passed, found it

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in the garage, and ever since then I've been fascinated

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with it. I never gave it two seconds salt. It's

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just not been my thing. But ever since then, I

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can't help but think how to this we came to

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seeing one and how it really changed changed my view

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on a lot of things. But it was pretty cool.

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Either somebody pulled a really good hopes or we saw

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something up there that was unexplainable at the time.

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Wow, Greg, that is man. It's one of those stories

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where it's like it's so so close, man, But it

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sounded like it really did change the rest of your life.

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Did you did you get involved with trying to go

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out again and have another close encounter after this at all?

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Well? I sure did. As long as I was in

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the area, I always would go to Mount Mitchell. That's

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where I proposed to my wife. I would always ride

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my motorcycle up there. It's just a really special place

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because there's nobody around for miles. Well, what you don't

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understand is when you get to Mount Mitchell there are

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no businesses, there are no homes, there are no streets,

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there are no turns, there are no lights, none of that,

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and it's completely shut off in the winter, so there's

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nothing there. And it racked my brain on who or

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what could that do. Now we did in the summertime,

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we went back up to speak to a ranger and

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I said, Hey, have you ever had And I asked

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him just a roundabout question, you know, and I said,

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we came up here in the winter and saw something

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rather questionable. And he kind of looked at us kind

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of funny, like, what do you mean questionable? And I said, well,

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you know, we just saw tracks and he said really

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big tracks and I said yeah, and he just kind

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of chuckled and didn't say anything else about it. I

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I've never had another experience. I've never come close. I've

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never heard anything. You know, I never did before, I

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never did after, but I certainly do look listen and

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you know, Thinker Thunker is one of my He's one

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of my one of the guys that I love to

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listen to his reason and his logic and how he

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breaks it down. And I've always had something of that

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nature in me. And we actually have a friend who says,

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if he ever sees bigfoot, he's gonna shoot him, and

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I said, if you shoot him, I'm gonna shoot you.

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And we kind of go back and forth at it,

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but we thought it'd be a good reality show to

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take him out and see if we couldn't find one.

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But uh, you know, it's it's something that I just

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believe as wholeheartedly as there we don't know everything that's

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on this place, and that's very I don't know, that's

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very grandiose if we think we know everything that's going on.

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So I try and leave an open mind and who

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knows what's out there?

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Oh, I agree one hundred percent. You know, you always

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see the reports of what new animals are discovered in

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the year and all the things down the rainforest, and

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I don't think it's out of the question to, you know,

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think we've got something in North America as well that

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we still haven't got down yet. That that's what my

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hope is. But is this footage available to watch anywhere?

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Well, I'm one hundred percent sure I can get it

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for my friend. I mean he he did download it

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to Google Drive and he sent it to me. Okay,

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I since moved and let me look real quick because

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I might have it if I can, I could just

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you know, you know, I did Google Earth the location

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and you can certainly see what I'm talking about where

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we come around the corner.

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Yeah, it's pretty cool. Sometimes. You know, people I talked

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to they have they actually have, you know, a video,

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and I've started to actually put it in some of

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them our recent episodes. I mean, if if it's something

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where you would be up for that, or if not,

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that's that's fine too.

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I can always just yeah, I would be Yeah, I

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got zero problem doing that. That would be I think

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that'd be really cool. Yeah, yeah, totally yeah. I can

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tell him to send that to me right now. Actually,

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I just get him on sure.

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Have you ever heard anyone else in that Mount Mitchell

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area having interactions or seeing weird things like what happened

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to you guys?

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Oh yeah, that's uh, it's pretty much. Uh. In Bakersville

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towards the Rhone, they have the same thing and people

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are a lot of people are putting up their their

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their trop cam's or ring footage, you know, and they're

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getting some really funky stuff in the woods at night.

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The the closest one that we have here is Little

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Switzerland and fire Tower Road. They have a couple of

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people that have been there for generations, you know, a

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few hundred a couple of hundred years probably, And this

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guy swears up and down that bigfoot comes up, takes

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his food, takes his trash, runs through it because of

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what he does. And it's pretty funny because it's it's

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something that I could I could get behind here and

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the guy speak, you know, I'm just thinking, yeah, I

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can see this, and and you do get a lot

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of questionable footage as what as to what that is?

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People hunting? The big one is the North Carolina hunter

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and Thanksgiving. I'm sure you've you've had to have seen

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this footage. But he's in a tree stand and one

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comes underneath him. And he's in Bakerfield, which is seven

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eight miles away from us, and it's crazy what went

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right underneath him, huge and hooping like a like an owl,

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excuse me, like a monkey.

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I believe I know the one you're talking about. So

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do you know the indi sedule that was involved with that,

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or just it's one that.

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Gets past it. I do not. Yeah, it's just one

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that gets past I know. I know several people that

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claim they have it on their their ring cam, and

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it's just you gotta you gotta wonder what's what's out

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there because anything is possible.

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So oh so I just kind of realize what you said.

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So you know actual people that have the like the

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ring cam where you just have it on your back

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door and they've captured stuff. Yes, oh man, that's not stude.

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I wonder if a ring cam has I R.

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I know, I'm trying to think somebody else said the

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reason what it was here and over what I've heard,

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and I'm not sure which one is which, but it

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seems to be somewhat true. The they have a trouble

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or excuse me, they don't have a problem seeing infra

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red light. But a man in Texas was with a

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sniperscope inside of his house and he said every time

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he was inside using his scope and using IR he

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could see him, but when he went outside he couldn't.

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And he thinks that they have some they have somewhere

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of detecting what light. I don't know. I think anything

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is possible at this point. It's it's just blowing my mind.

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And I've vacationed in Siberia, traveled there several times, lived

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in Japan, and they just know it's a it's a fact.

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It's just something that lives out in the wild, the

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wild man, and it's you you want to talk about.

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They talk about the Almaski. That's him. Yeah, yeah, they

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they yeah, they don't have any problems saying, yeah, we

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know it is we leave alone.

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Yeah, exactly. I h this is years and years ago.

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I interviewed a lady, her name is Jackie Talks. She's

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a researcher from the UK, and she would go to

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that area, you know, Siberia and Russia and looking for

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the Almasti and it was so funny that the farmers

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were just like totally confused. They were like, why are

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you guys spending all this time and money looking for

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something that obviously exists and we see it all the time.

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It was just the craziest thing to them. So I

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thought that was the coolest thing ever. But yeah, it's

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good to show you perspective. But when you're in some

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of these areas like Siberia or Japan, So you were

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talking to people over there like, Okay, what kind of

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weird stuff you guys got over here or things like that.

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Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And I'm a cold and snow guy.

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I've always been a cold and snow guy, which is

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why we would go up to Mount Mitchell. It was

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never about Bigfoot or anything else. It was just cold snow.

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So one of my places I've always wanted to go

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to Siberia, and when I got there, I had already

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had my incident. So I asked around when I was there, Greg,

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everyone knows this exists. Why you ask, you know, the

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common knowledge like, not even a big deal.

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Wow, was there any any conversation like that over in

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Japan at all? Any any weirdness?

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Oh? Yeah, you know, Japan doesn't. They don't have I

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think that's one of the few places that does not

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have some kind of forced giant, but they still have

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the Kappa, which is this extreme. I don't know how

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to I don't know how to describe it, but it's

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it's a it's a weird animal sprite kind of I

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don't know, man, I've never had any of those experiences.

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So yeah, you forget them.

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Yeah, yeah, but I never heard of big foot or

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anything like that being in Ja man.

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I think uh, I think turtle sprite is probably a

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good way to put it. It's it's a weird it's

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a weird crypt I remember reading and seeing about it

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in Lauren Coleman's museum out in Maine, and there's some

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weird stuff.

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You know.

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Listeners can can do some research check that out if

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you want. But it's it's interesting Japanese crypti culture is

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is a interesting time. But you know, based off of.

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This.

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Okay, so a few things this area, this Mount Mitchell area.

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First off, was it was it hit pretty hard by

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the hurricane that went through a few years ago.

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I would imagine six months ago. Yeah, I would imagine

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it was yeah, oh my goodness, it was last September. Yeah,

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so it's I would imagine they got hit. But man,

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that place gets stormed all the time. So it's it's

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nothing new for Mount Mitchell. But there's not many people

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up there. I think actually it was worse at lower

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lower elevation. I don't know, I could be wrong, but

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it's the perfect place for one to be if you

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think about it, in the area. You were in the

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area I am where I am. It's it's the only

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place where there isn't a population of people anywhere. There's

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nobody there, you know. It's that's what gets me, is

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is is the fact there's no one around and nobody

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knew we were going there that night. We didn't even

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know we were going there that night and that happened.

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It's it's it's just confusing.

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Are there any any stories or legends that get passed

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down in this area about them? Do you think this

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is a creature that's been seen for for quite a while.

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Yeah, when you go back and look in North Carolina

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in this area since the nineteen early nineteen seventies. One

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one lady here in Bakersville, which is the next town

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over I mentioned before, same things, she saw one through

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her backyard and for about a couple of weeks there

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in nineteen I don't know what year it was, seventy one,

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seventy two. There were a lot of sightings in Bakersville,

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like there was one that was just you know, walking around.

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But it's sporadic at best. And I always thought the

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best place to have it, do do a recrin and

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do a research would be Mount Mitchell because there's just

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nothing there. But you know, you've got to stay in

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the winter time, get special permits and be allowed to

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stay there and camp there for a couple of weeks

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because you're not just going to walk up on something.

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It has to find you. You're not gonna we're not

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gonna find get you know, we all know if it's

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gonna find you, it'll find you. But I'm not gonna

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be able to track something down like that. There's no way, no.

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I I agree with you. You know, people think that they're

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gonna do some some sneaking up on it. You're gonna

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the moment that you're in that area, like it's it

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already knows already.

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It knows, it knows. It's It's very interesting to see

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how many they have the Bigfoot Festival and Marion every year.

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I think that's coming up in May, uh and they

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they always have that, and my friends have We've talked

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about it for years, about telling our story, but I don't.

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I don't tell many people. I just don't. You know,

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that's not I tell a few people, few of my

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good friends know, and a lot of my good friends

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don't because I don't. It's not that I'm embarrassed. I

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just didn't. It was tough to tell people because they

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instantly think you're pulling their leg or you're full of crap,

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you know, and it's just it's I don't need that attention.

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It's kind of it's unsettling to realize there's something there

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that could snap me in half. And I'm just I

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don't know. He's just I was really yeah, I was

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freakiously aware in my I still to this day, my

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hair stands up and I can remember it instantly, you know.

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It's it's something that you don't forget. I never want to.

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Did you guys send in a report to the BFRO.

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My buddy did. He gave the same report to the

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North Carolina Bigfoot Researchers and he sent it to me.

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He said, hey, here's what I wrote. And you know,

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we've never collaborated or collaborated or told stories. It's everybody,

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all four of us have the version, and it's just

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it's pretty cool to hear them tell their side of

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the story because from what they saw, their perspective, you know,

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we all had that different view. But Marty made us

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take him up there the next day and we took

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him up there and showed him and he was completely

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blown away because the tracks were still there and nothing left,

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you know, and the snow stopped, so it was preserved

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for quite some time.

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It's there's some intro. It's very so this is such

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a cool example of I love it when there's a

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person I'm talking to but then there's a report, but

454
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the report is from a different person in the same party.

455
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.559
It is so cool just because there's different ways of

456
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:53.680
looking at things, and sometimes there's other details. For example,

457
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.920
you know, he does call out the length of the

458
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:01.119
tracks are about fourteen inches long, but also is seven

459
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:06.640
inches wide, which is a really interesting detail for him

460
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.960
to throw in.

461
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:14.079
Interesting. Well, so you're looking at it right there.

462
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:15.359
Oh yeah, yeah, I got it.

463
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.799
I got it right. So the years, the years have grown,

464
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.680
the fish has gotten bigger, would I say, like sixteen

465
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:23.680
or sixteen or seventeen inches?

466
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.680
Well, I mean, and that's I don't think, you know.

467
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.960
It could have been dependent upon a track as well.

468
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.279
I mean, a different track of different spot, snow melt,

469
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:34.920
several issues.

470
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.720
And that's the thing is, it's like, you know, I've

471
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.519
I've experienced this myself personally, like just being out in

472
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.440
Oregon because I didn't make notes like I can't. I

473
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.359
found tracks way out in the woods, and I would

474
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.400
have to say they were either fifteen or sixteen inches.

475
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:54.200
I can't say one hundred percent because I didn't write

476
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:54.559
it down.

477
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.200
And that was just this last July. So wow.

478
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.480
Another cool thing is that he does say that the

479
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.119
four wheeling in a jeep, no one in the vehicle

480
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.039
had a drop to drink anytime that evening, which is

481
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.079
that's actually a super huge detail.

482
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.920
So I couldn't. I couldn't be a part of any

483
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.440
drugs or any type of none of that. And my

484
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.079
mother was hit by a drunk driver. I never drank

485
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.960
and drive never. I still don't drink to this day.

486
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.720
I just don't.

487
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.079
Sorry, sorry to hear that.

488
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:31.359
Yeah, that is.

489
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:42.680
Yeah, you know, it's it's funny how you mentioned what

490
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:48.680
you had said to the the ranger, because you know,

491
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.000
I hear you hear just different versions of that. But

492
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:57.920
it's almost like the guy is saying in his mind,

493
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.839
you know, come come back when I'm retired. You know,

494
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:05.359
we'll have a chat, because you would have You wouldn't

495
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.720
even believe the stuff that I've experienced and heard up

496
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:09.319
up here.

497
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.440
But I can only imagine I let those guys see

498
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:13.960
all kinds of stuff.

499
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.119
When after the hurricane happened. This is just off to

500
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:24.480
the side. I don't even know if I'll leave this

501
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.920
in But did you did you hear any any stories

502
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:34.880
going around of people having sightings after the hurricane hit

503
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:35.279
up there?

504
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:37.839
I did not.

505
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.240
Okay, that's something I joking once in a while, because

506
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.640
I did have someone reach out to me once. I

507
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.480
used to do a call in show and actually it

508
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.920
was weird, man. They reached They reached out during the

509
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.359
call in show and they were sharing about how they

510
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.880
had left their house and there was there were like

511
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.920
these volunteers that come in to try to help out.

512
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:04.880
They weren't there the homeowners, and they were finding all

513
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.400
sorts of stuff. And then as she's sharing all this,

514
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.480
the phone gets disconnected and I couldn't get back in

515
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:11.960
touch with her.

516
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:16.680
I was like that kind of.

517
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.640
Thing, That kind of thing makes you wonder. It happens

518
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.039
a lot to me. Actually, yeah, it's it's pretty wild stuff.

519
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:30.400
So this Mount Mitchell, when you say that there's a

520
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.039
lot of space up there where just people aren't around,

521
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.240
can you give us a rough estimate as like how

522
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:39.920
much of an area is it where there's just not

523
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.559
people out there, and it's a perfect spot for this

524
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:44.480
guy to be up there.

525
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:52.599
You go from you go from about thirty eight hundred

526
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:59.759
feet thirty six thirty seven hundred feet just above the

527
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:08.559
little Switzerland to where they they close it off. From there, nobody,

528
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.960
no business is four thirty five forty miles up to

529
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:18.440
the top. And if you continued on and went down

530
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.759
the other side, you're looking again at another twenty twenty

531
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.759
five miles, So it would probably be fifty five sixty

532
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.480
miles of nothing on a one way in, one way

533
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.160
out road right, just one road. There are no branches,

534
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.799
there are no other sub roads except for the occasional

535
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:43.279
fire road. And that's the state park. So I don't

536
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:47.400
know the exact square mileage of that state park. But

537
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:55.079
nobody's there, No businesses, no homes, nothing, it's not allowed. Man.

538
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.079
That's that's that's the kind of thing that makes you wonder, because, yeah, okay,

539
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.000
you got like forty fifty miles. That's a nice little

540
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.920
east of land, especially for the East Coast, where something could.

541
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.240
Just hang out and not have to unprotected.

542
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.119
Yeah, especially since you're saying it's a one way in,

543
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:16.039
one way out road, so very easy to keep an

544
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:16.440
eye on.

545
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:24.039
For sure. I really think it would be worth the

546
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.359
worth the effort to to have some type of reconnaissance

547
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:34.920
or show up in up at Mount Mitchell and just

548
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.640
have you know, the ability to stay there for a

549
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.319
couple of weeks. I think you could get a really good,

550
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.359
surprising result. It's not a well known place. People don't

551
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.079
really go looking forward up there, that kind of thing,

552
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:54.759
So you know, the less it's sought after, I guess

553
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.480
maybe the better off it is remaining hidden. I don't know.

554
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.000
It's kind of a twenty.

555
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.799
Two Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, it's it can

556
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.680
get so interesting because it's like as humans and I

557
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.839
guess I'm just speaking for myself, I mean, we have

558
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:18.039
that curiosity if there is you know, living in a

559
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:22.759
culture where we have so much information and we think

560
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.680
we have all the information in the world, and then

561
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.160
if you find out no, there's this big thing where

562
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.759
you guys have no idea what's going on. I think

563
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.799
it just it just eats at us as a culture

564
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.640
and we're like, no, we have to know exactly what's

565
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.960
going on. And then another side you have to think

566
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.319
is it really the best for whatever is going on.

567
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.119
If we go in there and mess it up, I

568
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.160
don't know, man.

569
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.279
Yeah, I'm a little I would be a little weary

570
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.000
of doing that. Just just do to why mess up

571
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.119
his home? Yeah? I mean if it is and this

572
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:00.359
is a species, I think why he doesn't of that?

573
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.279
You know, I can let it exist without having that issue,

574
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.599
But it's something I'd love to see and I'd love

575
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:08.840
to get more into.

576
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:17.079
Absolutely the other individuals that other individuals that were with

577
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.199
you in the jeep, did this affect them at all? Either?

578
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:25.079
Did they start becoming really interested in the subject or

579
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:25.760
not so much?

580
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.480
Yeah? They do. And we still, you know, we still

581
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.679
talk about it and make jokes about it and send

582
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.920
bigfoot stuff to each other all the time. It's funny,

583
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.119
but you know, we we all have our own lives.

584
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.679
We lead our lives. But still none of us stopped

585
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:45.639
everything and became a complete, you know, big pootoholic. But

586
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.920
we certainly have, yeah, the ability to turn it on

587
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.519
and listen and be aware of other stories and encounters

588
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.880
because it makes it all tells a story when you

589
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.239
start putting them all together, that this many people can't

590
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:04.559
be in on something like that. It's just it's too convenient. Oh,

591
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.039
it's too easy.

592
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.679
In this kind of show, you know, it will it

593
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.280
will bring out other people that have had things happen.

594
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.719
And the way that you're talking about this area like

595
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.440
there have been other people that have had stuff happen.

596
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.039
I guarantee it, like it is just an absolutely area.

597
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:24.800
You know.

598
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.679
I'm sure that you've you've played over that night a

599
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.840
lot over the years. You probably you know, thought of

600
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.239
it a few times. Is there if you could go

601
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.320
back to that that time, is there anything that you

602
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.719
would choose to do differently or have things play out

603
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:41.719
as as they did?

604
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.639
Uh? You know, I went up when I went up

605
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.719
the embankment, I've followed through the woods a little bit.

606
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.480
I went through I don't know, maybe twenty five thirty

607
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.960
feet and I can still see the light from the

608
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:04.440
jeep down at the ball them. But it stepped, it

609
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.400
took one step, and then it cleared a branch that

610
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.000
was about four feet high and it was three or

611
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.880
four feet on the on the other side of it,

612
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.920
you know, and I had to go under it, and

613
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.639
I just remember looking up at the trees and the

614
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.199
snow was cleared eight feet now whether or not it

615
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.400
was using its hands when it was walking through or

616
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.679
its head or whatever the case was. I just thought, man,

617
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.159
I really don't need What am I going to do?

618
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.000
What am I going to do if I stop and

619
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:36.039
see it, you know, crap my pants and then what's

620
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.960
going to happen then? So I didn't have to ride

621
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:44.880
home with that? Yeah, I can't think of anything else

622
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.400
I would do different other than I wish. I just

623
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.000
really part of me wants, part of me wants to

624
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.840
go back and just arrived five seconds earlier with the

625
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.760
lights off and bang, turn them on and see what

626
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:02.079
he looked like. Just see what it look like, you know,

627
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.639
just was it white? Was it dark? Brown? Was it red?

628
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.079
Was it black? Was he you know? What was he?

629
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:11.719
Because he lives up on the mountain Mitche when it

630
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.079
snows all the time. Did he have whiter skin or

631
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:19.039
whiter hair, grayer hair, whatever the case may be. It's

632
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.280
It's something I would love to have seen. Maybe it

633
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:25.599
would have affected me different.

634
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.519
The cool thing is that you are still going up

635
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.159
there at different times of the year. When you're up there,

636
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:37.840
do you ever hear any noises that don't belong or

637
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.039
smell anything of the ordinary when you're up there.

638
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.559
I know I don't. And the only few times that

639
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:48.920
I've really stopped and you know, listened, I think to myself,

640
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:53.360
am I doing this? Am I wanting something? Am I

641
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.440
wanting to hear something? Am I going to make up

642
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.639
in my mind that I did hear something this time?

643
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.400
You know what I mean? Because it was so full

644
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.519
fetched for us to see anything like that whatsoever. The

645
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.440
odds are just through the room that that would happen.

646
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.960
And it's yeah, I I want to say, yeah, I

647
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:15.199
grew something, but I've never I never have never seen anything,

648
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.400
never even come closed, never heard anything. It's crazy. It's

649
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.039
just that one time and boom been looking ever since.

650
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.559
The really cool thing though about this, this whole thing,

651
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:31.800
is that you do have footage of what happened. It

652
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.320
sounds like and and so often you know people that

653
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.840
share their encounters, it's just it's just a memory they have.

654
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.000
But you have something tangible, if it's still you know, uh,

655
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.440
it's if it still exists. You have something tangible that

656
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:47.079
that he does.

657
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.400
He's going to send it. You were there, so I'll

658
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.639
email it to you. Yeah, so make sure you send

659
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.320
me an email and I'll email it to you. Sure. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

660
00:38:58.360 --> 00:38:59.920
that was that, you know, that was the tale to

661
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:03.920
sign because he said, my friend said, nobody's gonna believe us.

662
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.559
We got to go home and get the video camera.

663
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.559
We got to go get the video camera. We got

664
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.639
to go get the video and he loved camera. So

665
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.480
bang we went go. Now instantly we went down so

666
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.119
fast and that it was raining by the time we

667
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.000
got the buck Creek, so we were able to make

668
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:19.239
it down the mountain pretty quick.

669
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.000
Man, that would be very interesting. Uh, I'll get you

670
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.639
that information so we can hopefully you'll be able to

671
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.840
get sent over and then maybe we can even put

672
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.920
it in this this video. We'll see if I can

673
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.119
get all the text stuff to work out. But Greg,

674
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.039
it's been it's been a real fun time chatting with you.

675
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.239
I want to make sure is there anything else that

676
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.800
you wanted to to to share or make sure you

677
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:50.199
share before we we finished out our conversation today.

678
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.480
Nothing I can think of, Nothing I can think of.

679
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.519
I just if you're out and about, just stay alert,

680
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:59.119
stay vigilant, and I think if you do come across something,

681
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:04.599
I really believe it has the ability to to know

682
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.079
our intentions and know our thoughts and I've always I've

683
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.519
always kept a happy mind on those trails so that

684
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.599
you know there's no issue, and I don't. I make

685
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:18.320
sure I'm not invading someone else's space. It's to be respectful, right,

686
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.039
no matter what it is, you can at least be respectful.

687
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.280
Absolutely, Well, thank you so much for chatting.

688
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:30.559
It's been with you. I appreciate it. Jeremie, you have

689
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:31.679
yourself a great day, sir.

690
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.119
Just wanted to take a moment to say thank you

691
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.280
truly for listening to this episode of the big Foot

692
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.360
Society podcast. Greg's story is one of those rare encounters

693
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.639
that sticks with you, not just because of what was

694
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:43.679
found in the snow, but because of how close it

695
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:47.639
came to being something more huge. Thanks to Greg for

696
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.480
sharing his memories from that chilling night on Mount Mitchell,

697
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.320
and for reminding us that sometimes the unexplained finds you

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If you are someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter,

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especially in western North Carolina around places like Buck Creek,

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Little Switzerland, Bakersville, or anywhere near Mount Mitchell, I'd love

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to hear from you. Shoot me an email at Bigfoot

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the Bigfoot Society, and until next time, keep your eyes open,

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trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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be out there just to see you in the woods.