Feb. 19, 2025

Sounds Like a T-Rex Up Here! | Georgia

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society for an enthralling episode featuring Ed, a U.S. Army veteran and former police officer, who shares his extraordinary Bigfoot encounters from various locations. Ed's background as a trained observer...

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society for an enthralling episode featuring Ed, a U.S. Army veteran and former police officer, who shares his extraordinary Bigfoot encounters from various locations. Ed's background as a trained observer provides a unique perspective on his experiences, which range from eerie wood knocks in Georgia's Chattahoochee National Forest to unexplained lights in the woods and mysterious scat in Washington State. Along the way, Ed recounts spine-chilling events that have left him questioning the existence of these elusive creatures. Don't miss as Ed reveals the strange happenings that could suggest Bigfoot is closer than we think.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show, right Pickfoot Society. You've got the privilege

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of talking to Ed today. Ed's an individual that reached

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out to me after he stumbled upon the Big for

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Society YouTube channel, and he has some interesting things to

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share from his past years. So Ed, welcome to the show.

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Thank you, Thanks for having me absolutely.

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You know, we've got some really interesting ground to cover today, Ed,

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and you do actually have a very interesting background as well,

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and you know we were talking about that a little

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bit before the show started. I'd love if you could

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spend a few minutes kind of sharing about that background,

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and I think it plays in very well with the

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other things that you'll be sharing right afterwards.

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Right, Okay, not to go too deep into the weeds,

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but I was right after high school, when I was nineteen,

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I joined the Army. I was in the infantry for

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about eight and a half years. And the reason I

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think that's important is because I'm a United States Government

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trained absorbed I'm a desert storm veteran, and my job

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was to destroy enemy tanks, and so I know how

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to look for things that are trying to hide from

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me very well, either the highs binoculars, normal scopes, all

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that kind of stuff. That's what I did, right and

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a half year is looked for things to shoot. Basically,

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as far as the desert storm thing goes, I didn't

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have any bigfoot anything happening out there, but I did

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have some uh, some other things that are kind of related.

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I'm not sure it had something new the balls of light.

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After getting out of the Army, I was I returned

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to Hawaii. I was stationed in Hawaii in the Army,

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so I went back over there for other reasons and

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I became a police officer over there, and I was

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a police officer for twenty five and a half years.

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And if anybody is an trained observer in this world,

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it's police officers. They see things that other people will

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never see. Just driving down the road, I tell my wife,

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did you see that? You see that? Guy? You see that?

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And nobody ever sees it. They're like, how do you

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see all this stuff? I was like, you know, it's

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it's you can't unlearn it. And then the last thing

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I like to throw in there, as far as my

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you know, being able to see things. I have a

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licensed private pilot, and you constantly have to look for things.

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I mean, yeah, you're up in the air. You know,

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I can see big from the air, but you're constantly

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looking for anything and everything. And then if you're playing,

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you got to look on the ground too for places

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of land. Just think takes the plane craps out, So

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they're constantly looking for this kind of stuff. So and

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on top of that, I've been in the woods ever

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since I was a kid. I grew up just south

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of Atlanta, and I retired back in twenty seventeen and

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moved up here to North Georgia. I live in Towns County,

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right outside of a little bitty town called Hiawassee, and

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I live up here on ten acres on the side

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of a mountain. I got like two neighbors, and if

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it's summertime, I can't even see them. So that's that's

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basically my background. I just turned sixty one this month,

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so you know, I get out in the woods as

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much as I can, but I'm not umping down these

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mountains like it would be when I was when I

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was a kid. I'm going to go kind of in

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a reverse chronological order of what has why I'm on

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there here today, and I'm going to go from the

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the latest one back to back in time years ago,

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if that's all right with you, absolutely, okay. So when

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I retired in twenty seventeen and we moved up here

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about a year so maybe twenty eighteen, I took up

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turkey hunting. And for the other guys up here they're listening,

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you know, turkey hunting is one of the hardest that's

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one of the hardest animals there is to kill. I mean,

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you got to be to sit there and be completely still,

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and most of the places that I turkey hunt up

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here are within the Chattahoochee National Forest. So the Chattahoochee

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National Forest is of course regulated by the federal government,

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and within the National Forest are things called wildlife Management areas,

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and those are maintained and regulated by the state of Georgia.

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So the main one that I hunt in up here,

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and it's only about five six miles away from my

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house really as a crow flies, it's called the Swallow

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Creek WMA. And I finally killed a turkey this past year,

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in twenty twenty four in right at the end of

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the season, which was I think May so right say,

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May fifteenth, end of the season May sixteenth, they start.

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It's I think it's called a fox and bobcat or

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a fox and hog or something like that. Anyway, for

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the last two weeks of the month you can hunt

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you know, fox and bobcats, and if there's anything in season,

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you can hunt hogs. And I like to hunt hogs.

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So I went back up to this food plot where

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I had killed my turkey. Now this food plot is

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on the end of a road. It's called Mill Creek Road.

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It's one way in and it's one way out. It's

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a gravel road, and it's two miles up to the

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end where I was hunting. And so the reason I

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tell you that is when I drove in, I went

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up there that day to look for pig signs or whatever,

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and there was there was nobody else up there, because

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there's not really anywhere you could hide a vehicle. You

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just you can barely pull off the road at some

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of these little spots they have for you to park

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at the food plots. And there's no other vehicles on

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it road that day. And it was probably, oh, I

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don't know, three four in the afternoon. It was a

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nice day, sunny day, and I went up there and

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I had my AR fifteen just in the case I

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run across the pig and you could drive almost up

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onto this field. It's about one hundred meters one hundred

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yards in the their direction, and this field is in

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between two ridge lines. There's one that's the closest mountaintop

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is maybe an eighth of a mile north of the field,

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and then there's another one about a quarter of a

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mile away, and there's no trails or anything going up

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off of this field. It's I mean, it's thick as

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peanut butter. Up there. I've heard some of your other

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guests on here from North Georgia talk about the Mountain

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Laurel and if you want to get through it, you

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got to crawl under it. Well, they're not lying. That

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stuff is thick. And so I was up there and

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I didn't see any signs of hogs or anything, which

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is another point that I need to come back to later.

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But while I'm standing there from the closest ridge line,

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I hear just out of blue two consecutive wood knocks,

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and the only I can describe it is this somebody

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was up there, had a Louisville Slugger, baseball bat or

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something and just, you know, whack the hardwood tree like

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twice as hard as they could. And I'm just standing

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there in shock, because honestly, all my life I had

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been like on the fence about the whole bigfoot thing.

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And I'm just thinking to myself, oh my god, did

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I just hear what I thought? It hurt? And about

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ten second later, on the other ridge, which I said,

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it's got to be a quarter mile away, I hear

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another knock, a return knock, an answer sort of. It

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wasn't as loud because it was further away, but it

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was it was a wood knock, and so I just

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stood there for a minute and just I was in shock,

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basically because I've been hunting up there for several years

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and I've been all around the world, and like I said,

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I kind of didn't really know what to believe about this,

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but I heard this, and I'm thinking, there's there's no

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trails going up there. I didn't see any trucks or

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cars on my way up there, so there, I mean,

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could it have been a person up there? Maybe technically,

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I guess, but they would have had to hike all

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the way up the road for two miles, and then

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they would have had to hike for the better part

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of a day at least to get up there, and

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then their buddy that answered the call would have had

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to high I don't know how I'm going to take

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it hike to that other location because there's nothing over there.

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I mean, they have they have signs on the side

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of the road that says Wilderness area, and they're not

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kid it's it's seriously thick. They're I'm betting nobody's been

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over there since the Native Americans, probably because most of

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the guys that hunt out here. They're like me, and

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they're kind of lazy. They don't want to, you know,

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bust bush any more than after. That's why we hung

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all these these big fields that the the state makes

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for us. You know, you could just walk right out

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there and sit on the edge of them. So to

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get up there and to just randomly, I don't know

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if you're if you're be hoaxing somebody or what, but

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I just can't believe that people would have walked all

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the way up there. They would have had to take

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backpacks and stayed up there for the night, because there's

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no way they're going to get down that mountain in

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the dark like that. There's just no way. So I'm

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just standing there a shock, like what else could it be?

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The only other big thing that lives out there that

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would have the strength to do that would be a bear,

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And you know they can't hold a stick like that

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and beat on the side of a tree. So I

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was just in shock, and I decided to get my

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truck and leave. So I got my truck and I

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went home, and I told my wife about it quite

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and she doesn't really care that much about it. And

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so the next day I go down to the the

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dump nearby to dump my trash, and there's a gentleman

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that works there and he's he's always been working there,

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and so I thought, you know, if anybody knows what's

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going on up here, maybe this guy. So I asked

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him and said, hey, how how long have you? How

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long have you here? He goes, I've lived here all

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my life? And I said, have you do you go

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out and hunt and feace? He goes, yeah, I used

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to quite a bit. So I asked him the same

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question I ask everybody. I said, what, so, what's the

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weirdest thing you've ever seen? Out? And before I could

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finish it, he goes, I've seen Bigfoot. And my jaw

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just dropped and I was like what, And he said,

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I was driving up to Hazel of North Carolina the

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other day and I seen this thing walking through this

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guy's yard and he went on to tell me about it,

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and I thought, oh, my god, that's And then he

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tells me that he's seeing these giant tracks right outside

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the dump over here, and dump's only like three miles

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from my house. That kind of gave me the you know,

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the chills. I was saying, Oh, that's just great. Because

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right across from my property here is National Forest, I

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mean hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of ac ors, so

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I can just sit there and look across, and nobody

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lives up there because it's just National Forest. So I

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was like, oh my god, this is the only guy

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I've talked to that has, you know, told me they've

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seen stuff like that. So later that day I couldn't

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stand it. I just I had to go back up there,

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just for my own you know. I don't know why.

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I just felt it, like I felt the need to

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go back up there. And the funny thing is, I

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took a couple of apples with me. I thought, you know,

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I'll just put them on a stump up there in

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case they're watching, and just let them know that I'm

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a good guy and don't please don't try and kill

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me when I'm hunting. I'm I'm not here to mess

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with you. So I'm driving back up that road again,

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Mill Creek Road, and I get within about twenty yards

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of the little turn offer I need to go up

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to that field, and now there is a tree bent

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across the road. Not broken, not blown down by the

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roots or anything. I mean, it was bent that tree

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had to be as big around as my leg. I

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think I sent you a picture of it. So I

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stopped right there and I was, I was like, what

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what in the world is this. This wasn't here yesterday

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when I left, and there was no you know, rough

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weather override or anything. It was just you know, calm.

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It was spring weather. We didn't have any windstorms. And

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none of the other trees around this tree were molested

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or touch They were all fine. And the base of

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this tree where was growing had to be a good,

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don't know, ten twelve feet off the road down the

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side of the hill, and it stretched all across the road.

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So I got up. I gotta see how the stays

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being held in place. And the funny thing is there

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was nothing holding this tree down. It looked, you know,

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for it should have just sprung right back up, you

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would think. And I pulled on it and everything, and

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I couldn't get it to the pop out there was.

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I said, there's nothing holding it. And so for a

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person to be able to pull that tree over, you

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you'd't need like a football team gorillas out there, and

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somebody climb way up that tree with a rope and

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you know, a whole bunch of guys pulling on it

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or a wench. And then still I don't know how

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to this day, I don't know how it's being held down.

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I haven't gone back up there since, but I thought

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that was really odd that right after I heard those knocks.

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The next day I come up here and there's this

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this tree across the road which I've seen on you know,

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some of the different shows and stuff like that, and

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I've encountered that one other time up here when I

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was out hunting with my son in law on the

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Chattahoochee part of the forest.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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It was a road that we were walking down the

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surface road and there was another big tree just pulled

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all the way across the road like that, just out

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of the blue. None of the other trees were affected,

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and I just I just kind of put it in

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the back of my mind, going that's weird, but you

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know whatever. But now I kind of think back about it,

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it's wall who knows. So that was really odd. And

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the next thing going back, oh, let's see about it.

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A year or two ago, my son in law and

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I were hunting hogs up there in the same area,

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on the same road that mil Creek Road. We were

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just at a different food plot. There's one at the

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very beginning the park and then you it takes you

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about a half hour to walk up to this field.

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It's it's pretty far up the mountain. And I think

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it was in like it was small game season. Is

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it was like August and Georgia. Heree, funny season for

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small game open as August. They've take him. So you

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got to take a twenty two or something like that

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up there. But you can say, what if there's anything

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in season, they let you hunt hogs. So we were

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up there looking for hogs. And we walked way up

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there with our califlies and our Orange fast and everything,

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and so we finally get up to this field. It's

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a pretty good sized field, and I told him, I'm

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gonna post up down here on the bottom. I'm gonna

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treat it set up against it. He went further up

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to the top of the field and I see him

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disappear up into the bushes and he was going to

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wait up there, and so we said, And the thing

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about up there is there's there's no phone service anywhere,

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so you can't text, call, nothing. Your phones just don't work.

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Come there. So I'd been sitting over there, you know,

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twiddling my thumbs, waiting for about an hour, maybe an

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hour and a half, sitting against this tree. And my

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rifle had a scope on it so I could watch

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the whole field. And about that time I see him

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coming out from the top of the field of his

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orange vest, and he keeps stopping and looking back up

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the mountain as he's walking down towards me and everything.

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About every twenty feet he stops and he looks back

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up again like he's looking at something. Wonder what was

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he looking at? So I came out down the road.

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I was starting to get late and we forgot flashlights.

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So when he comes down there, he says, were you

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were you beating on a tree down here, trying to

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signal me? And I said what, and he goes, I

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heard somebody. It sounded like you were down here with

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a big wooden branch or something smacking a tree. And

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I thought you were trying to signal me to come

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back because we don't have phone service. I said, no, dude,

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I haven't moved. I've been sitting here, you know, quite

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as church wise and he goes, well, I heard it.

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It was coming from down here by you. I didn't

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hear a thing. That's the odd thing about it. I

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didn't hear anything. I didn't fall asleep either, And then

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he tells me, he said, when I got up and

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started walking out right after I heard that noise, it

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sounded like somebody was further up the mountain yelling at something.

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Except he said, he couldn't understand what they were saying.

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It wasn't like, you know, they were enunciating words or anything.

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It was just like he just he thought initially that

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somebody who had hunting dogs up there baby and was

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yelling for their dogs, trying to find them. And I

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told him, well, there's nobody else up here but us.

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There's no other trucks down here on the road, so

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how would they get in here if even if they

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came from the other side of the ridge. I mean, man,

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they would have been walking for days to get up there.

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And he goes, yeah, but he goes, I didn't hear

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any dogs, but it was just he said, it sounded

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like a person yelling. And I said, man, that's that's

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kind of creepy because there's once again technically somebody could

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have walked up there. I've never seen anybody do it.

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Everybody drives in there. But you know, it's started to

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get dark. Dude, we forgot our flarelights. Let's let's get

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on don and mount because we've got really small caliber rifles.

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So that was the next thing that I thought was

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really odd that he heard wood knocks that I didn't hear,

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and then he hears something up there yelling. Now, this

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food pot was within a mile of the other one

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where I had first heard those knocks that I just

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told you about. One of the other weird things about

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this area that I have encountered while I'm up there,

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and I'm not sure if it has anything to do

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with with sasquatch so much or not, but I've heard

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other people talk about it is these balls of light.

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I have seen those things going through the woods out there.

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Like So, like, if I go turkey hunting, you can

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hunt legally a half hour before sunrise. Well, it's like

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I said, it's first come, first server on the spot's

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up there. So I'll go there an hour or two early.

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I'll be up there, like three thirty in the morning,

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parked just so I can get my spot and I'll

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just sit in my truck and wait. And I've seen

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these lights going through the woods or down the road.

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It looks about the size of a softball. And it's

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not like a flashlight or it's projecting light. It's just

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it's just a light and they just kind of, you know,

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fhase out. It's a steady light.

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And we are getting some really weird feedback. I don't

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know if that's on you're aware of that on your

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side or anything. Really, it was when you were trying

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to describe the balls of light, all of a sudden,

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it was just went crazy on your side of the phone.

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I don't know if you could restate that part at all.

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Okay, yeah, let me move over here to the other

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end of the room. Sure. Yeah. So, like I said,

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there was there was these balls of light up there

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in this area where I've heard the wood box and everything,

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and I see them. I've seen him a couple of

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times going through the like through the woods and or

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down a road. Like they're about the size of maybe

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a baseball or a softball, and they're just uh. The

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first time I saw it, I thought it was a

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guy on a bicycle coming through and then he never

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passed me, and I jumped out there and turned on

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my flastide and there's nothing there, and I was like,

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what was that? It was? It was a you know,

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a ball of light. And then a couple other times,

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I'll be sitting on a stand, you know, waiting for

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pigs or whatever, and I see these things moving through

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there and I rub my eyes and I see them again,

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and you know, I don't know what that is. That's

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the most bizarre thing. But I've heard other people talk

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about that in connection with sasquats. And one of my

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neighbors up here, we have a campground close by where

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I live, and one of the guys over there said

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he's seen those down by this creek that's next to

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my property. And I'm like, oh, that's that's crazy. I

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thought I was the only one, but he goes, no,

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I've seen them. I've seen these balls of light, so

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we don't really know what that is. I saw something

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like that a desert storm while I was out there,

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a ball of light, me and a couple other guys,

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and it was just in this big thing of woods.

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I don't think it's a big foot Saudi Arabia, but

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that's the only other place I saw these lights like that,

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and they just disappeared, and it was really odd. One

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of the other things was my son in law and I.

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My son in law and my stepdaughter moved here from Hawaii.

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My wife is from Hawaii, and so they moved up

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here to live with us. And he's a big hog hunter.

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That's why I ended up, you know, got out and

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learning how to hunt hogs and stuff, because that's all

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I had to hunt in Hawaii's hogs. And one of

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the other times that and this is something that one

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of your other guests have I have noted that they experienced,

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and when they said this, it just came rushing back

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to me and I remembered it. But my son in

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law and I we were hog hunting off of Highway

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one eighty up here right right near Brasstown Ball. Brass

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Town Ball is the highest mountain in Georgia. So you

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get there via Highway one eighty and it's all National

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forests out there, which means you can hunt out there.

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It's a public hunting area and there's a couple of

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roads and stuff that you can you know, you can

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park and get out there. And so he and I

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had found a place where the hogs had just been

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tearing the tearing the you know, the grass up on

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the side of the road. They will it looks like

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someone goes through with a plow and just plows everything up.

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So we had gone out there and we were following

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this hog signs down this old service road. It was.

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It was a good enough road where you could walk

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on it. You couldn't drive because there was little trees

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who were up in it and everything, but we could

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tell the hogs had been through there. And we had

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been walking, oh, I don't know, maybe half hour. So,

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like I said, I'm not as young as I used

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to be, and East in his thirties. So we came

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across an area where there's a tree had fallen over

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the road, and I thought it was just perfect. I

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can sit down and take a break. I told him.

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I said, I'm gonna sit down and you know, take

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a break for a few minutes. And he was like, okay,

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I'm going to go on up ahead and I'll be

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back in like fifteen minutes. I said, okay, great. So

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I'm sitting there and after I don't know, five or

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ten minutes or so. The only way I can describe.

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It is up up the side of the mountain aways,

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maybe about fifty yards up from where I was sitting.

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It sounded like an elephant just stomped his foot on

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the ground as hard as it could, or like someone

453
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:50.160
was way up in a tree and dropped a huge

454
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:53.160
bowling ball or something. I mean, I felt good to

455
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:57.599
my mind. It was just this big thud like boom,

456
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:00.559
and it scared me. I jumped off that lawe, the

457
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.079
safety came off my rifle and looked up there. I

458
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.079
didn't see anything, but I mean, it was just this

459
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.759
big thud, like there was an visial elephant up there

460
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:16.880
and it had just stomped the ground. So the whole time,

461
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:19.720
I'm waiting for my son Alain to come back, because

462
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.960
like I said, there's there's no phone reception out in

463
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.759
these areas. So I'm standing there the whole time with

464
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:30.759
my rifle, just watching like what was that. Because so

465
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.039
he comes, he finally comes back. I told him what happened,

466
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.640
and we went up to the point where it sounded

467
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:41.240
like it came flog. There's nothing disturbed there, no, I mean,

468
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.839
if if a limb had fallen out of a tree,

469
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.640
you'd hear it coming down. I've heard trees fall, I've

470
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.400
heard limbs falling out of trees, and you all hear

471
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.319
it busting other branches on the way down or something,

472
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.480
and when it hits the ground, it'll crack. That's not

473
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:03.079
what this was. This was just this big food. I mean,

474
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.519
just I saw, I can describe it. It's just this

475
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.279
big bud hit something hitting the ground like that. And

476
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.279
we went up there and looked around and there was nothing.

477
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:18.319
There was no trees, you know, recently broken off or anything.

478
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.720
So I'm not sure what that was or how I

479
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.640
have no idea what it was, but I've heard a

480
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.920
couple of other guys that had that was up here

481
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.960
in North Georgia. Then it described something similar to that,

482
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.640
and I was like, man, I've heard that and it

483
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.599
just creeps you out because you look around, like what

484
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.920
was that? Just out of the blue. So that was

485
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.400
one of the other things. And like I said, I'm

486
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.039
not going to say any of this was bigfoot, but

487
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.720
I'm gonna say it wasn't because I don't know what

488
00:28:55.880 --> 00:29:00.640
else it could have been. I mean, bears, bears don't

489
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.960
make you know the biggest thing that lives out here

490
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.400
that I'm aware of that. I have seen. I've got

491
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:12.599
one on my my webcam, not letting camp, my game

492
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.160
camp out of my front yard.

493
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.519
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

494
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.480
I got a bear on it that that's easily six

495
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.559
seven hundred pounds. But I don't even think that bear

496
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.880
could could make a noise like that unless he was

497
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:44.599
way up in the hunter foot up in a tree

498
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.039
and just fell out, in which case I would have

499
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:52.240
seen him, which I didn't. So there was that. That's

500
00:29:52.319 --> 00:30:00.240
that's a really odd thing. The other thing I've experienced. Yeah,

501
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.240
that's a point notes here. It was probably back in

502
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:10.359
two thousand and eight. And this one is really to me,

503
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.160
this is the most bizarre of all of them because

504
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:20.960
this is where I grew up south of Atlanta. This

505
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.759
is basically a suburbia. I mean, there's a lot of

506
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.680
woods and stuff around. This is right at my parents' house,

507
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.720
and there's some big swamps that looks like Cambodia back there.

508
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:33.720
I used to play in when I was growing up,

509
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:38.759
hunting fishing. But there's a lot it's a very populated

510
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:44.400
area and I was there I think it was May.

511
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.519
There's my parents wedding anniversary. I was there visiting him.

512
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.839
I had flown in from Hawaii, and at that point

513
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.440
in time, my mom and dad still didn't have air

514
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:59.119
conditioning in their house, and it was kind of warm

515
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.359
for what may. And I was sleeping in my whole

516
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:08.920
bedroom and that room had a big window that went

517
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:13.599
from the floor to the ceiling, and then back behind

518
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:18.319
the house was woods for about oh an easy mile

519
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.799
before you hit the next subdivision, you know, like I said,

520
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.440
creeks and swamps and stuff. And I'm laying there asleep

521
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.720
and something wakes me up. And it was the most

522
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:35.680
ungodly sound I have ever heard in my life. The

523
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:39.160
only way I can describe it is if you took

524
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:48.480
a roaring African lion and a mountain silver backed mountain

525
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.240
gorilla roaring as loud as he can, and then you

526
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.960
take that t Rex from that Jurassic Park movie that

527
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.240
sounded that t Rex makes, and you combine all three

528
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.319
of those and you run it through like a big

529
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.119
marshal ample like a kiss concert, and you turn the

530
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.920
hamp all the way up and you let that noise

531
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.880
go for about a good fifteen seconds. I could feel

532
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:17.359
it through my bones. I mean, my body was vibrating

533
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.079
when I heard this thing, and it did it two

534
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.240
or three times, and I had a three fifty seven

535
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.319
magnum revolver in on the night stand next to me,

536
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.680
and I didn't even think about reaching over for it

537
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.039
because I was like, oh my god, whatever that is,

538
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:39.119
this isn't even going to tickle it. Because to be

539
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.200
able to make a sound like that, you would need

540
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:45.359
some gigantic lungs. I mean, I don't know how big.

541
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.119
But it just went on and I'm just like right,

542
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.519
I mean just went on and at least a good

543
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.079
fifteen seconds each time. And they did it two or

544
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.880
three times, and it sounded like it was only I

545
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.039
don't know, maybe one hundred yards down my parents' backyard.

546
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.519
It scared me so bad that I just lay there

547
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.759
and I tried not to move. I mean I did

548
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.000
that thing where I opened my mouth and I tried

549
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.319
to breathe real shallow. So because I thought this thing

550
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.079
could walk right up to the window. The only thing

551
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.319
between me and it is the screen from the window,

552
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.319
and it could just you know, pop that out and

553
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.960
be in here. And I was just I couldn't believe it.

554
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:29.920
I had never heard anything like that in my life.

555
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.880
It was horrifying. And like I said, it was like

556
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.960
if you took that sound and you pumped, if you

557
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.680
were in front of the speakers up on a stage

558
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.559
at a Kiss concert and they turned the speakers all

559
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.079
the way up. That's what it felt like going through

560
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:51.000
my body. And I had grew like that. I grew

561
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.359
up in those woods. I had never heard anything like that.

562
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.480
And so finally it stopped at It made that sound

563
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.079
that scream how old yellow thing two or three times

564
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:04.960
and it finally stopped. And I just kept laying there

565
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.440
listening as hard as I could, just wait to see

566
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.599
if I could hear anything moving. And I never heard

567
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.400
anything else, and I finally fell asleep. And so the

568
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.000
next morning I get up and I asked my dad,

569
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.800
I said, did you hear that thing last night? And

570
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.719
he goes, I didn't hear anything. I was like, oh

571
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.840
my god, you must have been in a coma. How

572
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:30.480
could you not hear that? It was ungodly. So I

573
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.639
didn't go down there in the woods to look around

574
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.360
that day. It was just me. Like I said, three

575
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.960
fifty seven was the biggest guy I had at the

576
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.920
time over there, and I wasn't going to get my

577
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.920
dad to go down there with me because he was

578
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.360
getting older, and so I had one more night to

579
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:51.159
stay there, and the next night it happened again. I mean,

580
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:55.840
it was just unbelievable, the volume on this thing and

581
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.920
how long this kept going. And in my mind, I'm like,

582
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.280
how big do you have to be to generate that

583
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:09.280
much's noise for that long of a period of time.

584
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.679
I mean, a human being, you know, you could scream

585
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.480
as loud as you could for maybe I don't know,

586
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.440
ten seconds or so, and then you'd be like out

587
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.280
of breath. But this thing just kept going. It was

588
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.559
just unbelievable. So the next morning I got him ask

589
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.320
my dad again, did you hear it? He goes, yeah,

590
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.559
I heard it last night. I said, what why was that?

591
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.039
He was, I don't know, I've never heard anything like

592
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.119
that in my life. And my dad was like, he'd

593
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.639
been basically to all the states in the country, and

594
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:40.719
he was he was in the military, he'd been around

595
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.559
the world, and you know the same thing. He was like,

596
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.199
you know, you've never heard anything like that. You've been

597
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:47.880
all the way around the world, You've experienced a lot

598
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.360
of stuff, and for you know that, that's just so crazy, bizarre.

599
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.360
So my sister came to pick me up later that afternoon.

600
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.800
I was going to go to her house and I

601
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.400
told her, I said, come with me. We got to

602
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.159
go down the woods behind the house. I want to

603
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:06.840
see if there's any tracks down there, because there was

604
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.480
like a real sandy area where the water bubbled up

605
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.880
on the ground down there. And had a gun stuck

606
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:15.280
in the back of my pocket. And so she's going

607
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.320
down the hill with me. She goes, why do I

608
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:19.960
have to go with you? I said, in case something

609
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.559
happens to one of us, the other one can run

610
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.360
back and you know, get some help or tell people

611
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.400
what's going on. She goes, well, why do you get

612
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.519
to carry the gun? Is my gun? I'm not letting

613
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.559
you have it. But anyways, so that was just I

614
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.920
never figured out what that was. And then I can't

615
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:45.320
say that it was bigfoot, but it's I don't know

616
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.760
what it was. I mean, it was unbelievable. Whatever it was,

617
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:57.599
it was just this crazy, crazy, loud. And then one

618
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.039
of the other things this was I was when I

619
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.920
was in the army. I was stacing up in Fort Lewis, Washington,

620
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.480
and this was before I went to desert storm, so

621
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:14.119
I think it was in about nineteen ninety. So the

622
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:18.280
way the divisions in the Army works, or at least

623
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.840
the way they used to work, was about every month

624
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:26.039
a unit would be the duty battalion, and you got

625
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.360
stuck doing all the the thirty jobs around the base,

626
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:35.039
picking up the trash and mowing grass in different places

627
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.920
and all kinds of you know, crap like that. So

628
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.320
we were on that duty, and the fourth sergeant gave

629
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.800
Michaeltendent's ergeant, who was the guy I was pretty close with,

630
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.639
we were pretty different. He gave him a they call

631
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:54.039
it a detail that this one training area needed to

632
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.480
be have a they call it a police call. All

633
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:57.800
that means is you're going to go out and pick

634
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.360
up trash. If God didn't put it there, it up.

635
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.760
So there was this training area somewhere out on the

636
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:08.039
outskirts of the base that needed a two day police call.

637
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:09.480
So we're gonna go two days in a row and

638
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.199
pick up trash. So it was me the Politican sergeant,

639
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.360
and they saw a private who was our driver. We

640
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.079
had a humpee and so we drive way out there

641
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.000
and we got these trash bags and everything and all

642
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.360
our mr used to eat and there was a They

643
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.360
had a gate across this area, believe or not, and

644
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.840
you had to unlock it and go inside. And if

645
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:38.719
you've never been up to the Pacific Northwest, especially the

646
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.159
Tacoma Salle area, I think it's a temperate rainforest is

647
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.519
what they called it. It's like it's like a Jurassic

648
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.840
park back in there. The trees are just gigantic. They

649
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.039
have ant hills that are three or four feet tall

650
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:58.840
made out of pine needles, and it's I mean, it's beautiful.

651
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.480
There's ferns that are I'm six one and they were

652
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.519
these ferns has towered over me. It's just the only

653
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.000
thing I could think it was this Jurassic park. So

654
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:13.519
we pull in there and we immediately can tell that

655
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.000
this is just a sham job. There's there's not any

656
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.480
trash back here to pick up. Nobody's been back here

657
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.840
since you know, Moses weren't private. So we figured, okay,

658
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.039
we get we basically get two days off. We just

659
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.079
sit out here, hang out, and as long as First

660
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.079
Startiant doesn't find out that we were just out here,

661
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:35.480
you know bs and around what, we're fine. We had

662
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:40.159
two days offer away from the company. So the three

663
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:43.400
of us decide we're going to go out and walk

664
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.199
around because I told the platoon started and said, you know, Bob,

665
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.000
this would be a great place to bring the platoon

666
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.920
up here for like jungle train, because it basically looks

667
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.880
like a big jungle and said, yeah, so let's let's

668
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.280
go and check out the area. So we're walking around

669
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:06.119
and we find this game trail going up. It's not

670
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.440
really that mountains over there, but there were some pret

671
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:12.119
good hills. We're going up this hill and at some

672
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.119
point across this game trail, we come across this big

673
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:26.000
pile of poop and it looked like a person, except

674
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.239
if it was a person that was like ten feet tall.

675
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:33.239
Maybe it wasn't like, you know, regular person poop. It

676
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:37.559
was gigantic person poop. It wasn't a dog, It wasn't

677
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.679
a coyote or a wolf or a bear, I know

678
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:42.559
what all that stuff looks like. That wasn't what this was.

679
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.119
This stuff was huge, and we're all just standing there

680
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.280
looking at it, and we're looking at each other and

681
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.800
we're all thinking the same thing. I know. We are like,

682
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.639
oh my god, this this can't be you know, bigfoot

683
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.480
but that's what we're thinking, I know, because we're like,

684
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.719
what hell could it be up here? Is it's not deer,

685
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.280
elk or anything else like that. That their poop doesn't

686
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.480
look anything like that, And so we're looking at it,

687
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.960
looking at it, and we thought, well, maybe we should

688
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:17.400
head back already, because not of us wanted to being

689
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.679
scared or anything. But you know, there's no point in

690
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.159
this challenging whatever out that we didn't have any guns

691
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.880
or anything. So on the way back, I told my

692
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:32.199
little I said, hey, I got a nine millimeter pistol.

693
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:34.320
I think I'm going to bring it tomorrow just for

694
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.599
our own safety. And he goes, yeah, I think that's

695
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.000
a good idea. So we kind of stay close to

696
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.000
the home being the rest of the day, and the

697
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.360
next day we come back out there with the pistol.

698
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.760
This time will feel a lot safer with a you know,

699
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.519
even though it's a nine mionmeter pistol, it's better than nothing.

700
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.599
So we go and we start to explore in the

701
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.360
opposite direction, going down the hill, and there's a river

702
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.239
down there and I don't remember the name of the

703
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.519
river that saved my life, but it was it was

704
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:12.719
a pretty good size piece of water. I don't know,

705
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.559
it was maybe fifty forty fifty feet across, and it

706
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.039
was running pretty good. It had salmon in it. It was,

707
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.239
you know, that kind of a river. It had salmon,

708
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.199
because as we walked down the river, we found a

709
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.239
salmon that was kind of almost up on the bank

710
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.199
but just barely in the water, and you can still

711
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.280
you could tell it was it was still fresh, you know,

712
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.760
just you know, it wasn't rotten or anything. And the

713
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.559
thing about it was there was this huge bite mark

714
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:45.360
on the belly of it. And we were standing there

715
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.400
looking at that, going, what do you think bit that

716
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:54.800
big chunk of salmon? Because it wasn't like a bear

717
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.639
has a kind of a pointed muzzle, a coyote, you know,

718
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.159
they got there kind of canine shaped muzzle. This wasn't

719
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:09.440
shape like that. This was shaped like a person, except

720
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.159
a person that was whose head would have been two

721
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.960
or three times bigger than ours, you know, that's what

722
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.960
it looked like. It was kind of a half moon shape.

723
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.519
And so we're standing there looking at that, and we're

724
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:26.800
thinking about the poop from the day before, and we

725
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:30.639
walked maybe about ten or fifteen yards further down the river,

726
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.840
and on the other side of the river, the bank

727
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:39.280
went up drastically, I mean, almost like a cliff, up

728
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.920
about I don't know, fifty sixty feet up, and there

729
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.519
was a lot of brush on the side of it.

730
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.719
And as we going down, we heard something I don't

731
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:55.480
know what it was up there in that brush, moving around,

732
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.400
and the next thing you know, there's rocks hitting river

733
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.760
right out in front with us, like if I don't

734
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.599
know if somebody was throwing rocks, and they weren't you know,

735
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.079
like basketballs or anything. They were just maybe the size

736
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:16.039
of your fist or something. But so I'm not sure

737
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.760
if whatever it was was scrambling up that mountain, would

738
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.519
a person. I guess a person could get up it,

739
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.639
but it would be really hard. I wouldn't have even

740
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:27.280
back then I was young and you know, in the

741
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.280
army and everything, I wouldn't have wanted to try it.

742
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.679
But we weren't sure if it was somebody something scrambling

743
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.400
up there and kicking rocks loose. But I don't think so,

744
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:41.199
because they would have hit closer to that the foreshore,

745
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.920
and most of them were hitting out in the middle

746
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:48.760
or on our side of the shoreline, and so we

747
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:53.079
were like, we couldn't see what it was. But when

748
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.559
that happened, we put that together with the salmon that's

749
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.039
just right upstream a few few yards, I want that

750
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.360
giant bite out of it, and then the poop from

751
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.079
the day before, and we were like, oh, that's it.

752
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.639
I took off running up the side of the mountains

753
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:11.960
and then they goes like, hey, wait, wait for us,

754
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:12.760
wait for us.

755
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.000
Bikes for the Society will be right back after these messages.

756
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.480
Why because you've got the gun. And so we got

757
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.239
back up to the Humbie and we we stayed up

758
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.280
there like for the rest of the day, and we

759
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.119
didn't really you know, we didn't really talk, like we

760
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.679
ate our lunch and stuff, and it was almost like

761
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.599
we were on guard. We were we were sitting around

762
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.400
and standing around right outside the vehicle and just watching,

763
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.719
waiting to see if something was going to show up

764
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:01.159
out there. And it never did. And you know, when

765
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.679
the time came, we we went back to the company

766
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:07.199
area and we didn't really discuss it with anybody, but

767
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:11.320
it was really really odd. Uh. Like I said, I

768
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:16.320
can't say that it was bigfoot, but I've never seen

769
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.880
any proof like that since except that the uh, the

770
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.000
Bigfoot Museum over here in Terry Loge, Georgia, which is

771
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.760
about half far down the road from me. They've got

772
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.239
the I don't know if it's fake poop or whatever

773
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.559
it is, but supposedly Bigfoot poop on display. And I

774
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.039
looked at that. As soon as I saw that, I

775
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.519
was like, wow, that looks just like what I saw

776
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:45.079
up up in Washington. And since Washington is, you know,

777
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.559
kind of the Bigfoot central up there according to everything else,

778
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:54.039
that's that's the first thing I thought of. So that's

779
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:59.679
that's basically some of the stuff that I've experienced.

780
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.320
And that's that's incredible. My goodness. Thank you for Sharon.

781
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.880
I was actually going to ask you the question you

782
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:11.239
pretty much just answered, which is what was the orientation

783
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.599
of the scat that you saw? And it sounds like

784
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.599
it was kind of in a straight line, because I'm picturing.

785
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.199
Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. It was right there on that

786
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:26.079
trail of all places, and like I said, there's no

787
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:30.000
homeless people out there. There was a military training area

788
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.320
on the base, and it was just plain as day.

789
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.320
We were just walking and boom, there it is. I mean,

790
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:40.400
you couldn't miss it. I love the Honting fish. So

791
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:41.840
I'm out in the woods a lot out here, and

792
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:46.679
I see bear scat all the time, and it doesn't

793
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.039
look anything like that I had hogs. I've never seen

794
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.800
anything like that ever again, except for that stuff that

795
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.639
they have in this little museum over here, but that

796
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:04.280
was kind of bizarre. And the whole tree thing I've

797
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.920
now that I remember right down here on my property,

798
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.199
I go deer hunting. Like, here's the other thing I

799
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.599
want to get to about the pigs and the deer

800
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:18.840
on the wildlife management areas. I've been up there. Like

801
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.320
I said, turkey hunting. I always see turkeys out there.

802
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:26.079
There's tons of them out there, and up until about

803
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.519
two years ago there was there was lots of hogs

804
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.199
out there. I mean you would see signs of them

805
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.119
even driving down the road down here in the mountains.

806
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.280
You know, there's always a grassy area on the media

807
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.320
in the side of the road or whatever, and you

808
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.039
can tell where the hogs have been because it looks

809
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.079
like someone took a row tiller and just went out

810
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:50.079
there and filled up a garden plot. Even in the woods,

811
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.559
they go through there and they'll be fifteen or twenty

812
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.559
of them, and they just take their noses and they

813
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.760
just turned the earth over and just tear it up.

814
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.960
So basically, every time I would go or me and

815
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.119
my son law would go out here into the wm

816
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.960
a's or even in the National Forest, we would find spots.

817
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.440
It was pretty easy. Just you go out here and

818
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.360
start walking and you'll find a spout where the hogs

819
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:18.719
have been. Until about two years ago and suddenly we

820
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:22.400
just didn't see hogs anymore. There was no signs anywhere.

821
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.880
I mean I used to get them on my twelve

822
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.840
cameras over here on my property. We even sat down

823
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.280
here at the bottom part of my yard a year

824
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:32.159
or two ago with our bows one night in the

825
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.679
summer and our green lights because we had about a

826
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.800
two hundred and something pound hog kept coming through. And

827
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:45.440
then suddenly they were just gone. And I just wondered,

828
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.039
I thought, well what And I've never seen a deer

829
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.320
on those WMA's, not maybe one. I don't even go

830
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:53.960
deer hunt nobody. I just I come down here on

831
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.239
my property here. My next door neighbor lets me hunt

832
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.440
on their property, but I have never seen a deer

833
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.880
other than maybe just one on there. And and then

834
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.960
the hogs just suddenly It's like it's like, you know,

835
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.000
star trek came and beamed them up or something. And

836
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:17.800
after hearing those wooden knocks up there, I kind of wondered,

837
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.039
did are these things nomadic? Did they move into this area?

838
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.199
And then did they eat all the hogs or did

839
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.440
they run all the hogs off? And then oh, there

840
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.280
was one other thing I almost forgot when I was

841
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:36.320
talking about the turkey hunting. I met a guy a

842
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:40.480
couple of years ago out here. We met up we

843
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:44.199
were out hunting turkey in the same area, and we came,

844
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.880
we came friends, and we were up there in the

845
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:52.199
Chattahoochee Wildlife Management Area, and uh, we had decided to

846
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.159
basically call it a morning, and we knew that there

847
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.519
was these two guys camping at this one camp spot

848
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.159
and this spot is the only place up on the

849
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.280
mountain where you can get a phone signal, so they

850
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.320
call it the phone booth, oddly enough, and they had

851
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.719
a fire going, and so we kind of meandered over

852
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:13.599
there and started up the conversation with him and kind

853
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.400
of an excuse us to stand by the fire because

854
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.800
it was cold that day, and so I was going

855
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.079
to ask them the same thing. Whenever I meet anybody

856
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.360
out here in the woods hunt their fishing, I always

857
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.920
ask them, are you from up here? And they usually

858
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.840
it's always yes. And I'd ask them kind of around about,

859
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.039
beat around the bush, what's the weirdest thing you've seen

860
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.480
out here in the woods? And I'd usually ask him

861
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.559
to find have you ever seen big food? They always laugh.

862
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:46.000
Everybody laughs and says no. But these guys were a

863
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.239
little bit different. So they were camping. Apparently they come

864
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:51.800
up here every year to get away from their wives

865
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:55.000
for a couple of days. And so while we're standing

866
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.280
there putting the dogs and standing by the fire, I

867
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.599
asked the guy, what's the weirdest thing you guys have

868
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:05.800
ever seen up here? It's one guy tells me he'll

869
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.639
back down here in such and such hollow, which I

870
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:11.480
had a specific name, and I don't remember what it was.

871
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.079
He said, I was hunting back there, and I've heard

872
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:21.440
children laughing, giggling, and there's no children back there. I thought, well,

873
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.760
that's that's pretty creepy, you know. So I don't know

874
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:31.679
if that's a residual, you know, Native American thing, or

875
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:38.079
is it you've all sasquats that he doesn't see and

876
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:40.960
they're I don't you know, I don't know if they

877
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.760
laugh or not. Because I was listening to a different

878
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.519
podcast the other night and there was another guy from

879
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.639
up here in Georgia and he said he heard one

880
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.679
sound like it was singing, which I was like, singing. Wow,

881
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.079
that's that's different. So I guess if you could sing,

882
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.840
possibly you could maybe make something that sounds like laughter.

883
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:04.320
I don't know, but he seemed to think it was

884
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.599
a kind of a honking sort of thing. I was like, okay,

885
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.400
well that's that's kind of strange. I'll try to avoid

886
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:15.760
that area. And then he tells me, he said, I

887
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:21.440
haven't seen Bigfoot, but and he goes, you remember when

888
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.000
you was a kid, used to watch the Pink Panther cartoon.

889
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:26.719
And I was like yeah. He goes, remember how the

890
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.719
Pink Panther walked in that funny goofy walk. I was

891
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.039
like yeah. He said, well, I was down here coming

892
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.800
off of whatever highway was just right up in this

893
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:39.400
area somewhere. I forget what's one it was, and he said,

894
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.920
and this thing stepped out on the road, and he

895
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:48.920
said it had to be seven plus foot tall, had

896
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:53.400
a real long tail, walked on through legs, and he said,

897
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:55.639
walk across the road. He goes. The funny thing about

898
00:53:55.679 --> 00:54:00.440
it was it walked just like that pink Panther tune

899
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:03.519
and that little bebop kind of thing as it walked

900
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:08.280
across the road. And I'm looking at him. I was like,

901
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.599
what I'm thinking, this guy just you know, yank in

902
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:15.480
my tin. But he was deadly serious, and he said,

903
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.559
I it went across the road, he goes, I turned

904
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.400
around and I came back, he goes. I thought there

905
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.800
was some kids or somebody here playing a joke on me,

906
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:24.559
and I wanted to catch him, so he said, I

907
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.880
turned around, came back, and he goes, I stopped where

908
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.840
I saw go into the woods, and I didn't see anything,

909
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.679
and I thought, you're serious, and I just, you know,

910
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:35.960
you know, just bs me. He goes, no, I'm deadly serious.

911
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.159
I saw this. I thought, okay, that's that sounds like

912
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.360
one of those dog men things, because I've never heard

913
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:44.320
seen anything about a sasquatch with a big, long, bushy tail.

914
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:49.559
But anyway, so that's something else that someone has related

915
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.480
to me up here. And then, like I said, the

916
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.440
guy down here at the dump. That told me that

917
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:57.920
he'd seen the one in Hazel in a guy's yard,

918
00:54:58.400 --> 00:54:59.880
and he said it was it was like been over

919
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.199
making something up as they walk by. And this was

920
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.360
like at eleven o'clock in the day, and you know, daytime.

921
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.760
And I said, well, you know the thing about that

922
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:15.039
is if somebody was trying to hoax somebody people driving by,

923
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.880
or say the guy that lived at that house, they're

924
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:22.920
taking their life in their own hands. Because everybody up

925
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.079
here is armed to the teeth. I mean, everybody up

926
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.679
here in the mountains has guns. It's just a culture.

927
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:33.119
You know. We're not not out looking for a fight.

928
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:38.039
That's just everybody carries guns. And sooner or later there's

929
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.639
going to be some good old boy redneck. And I

930
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.840
don't use that as a disparaging term. I'm a redneck myself,

931
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:48.639
I'm pretty sure. But sooner or later, you know there's

932
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:50.719
going to be somebody sees one and goes, there's a

933
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.960
money foot, and I'm going to shoot it, and they're

934
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.159
going to shoot at it. So if you put on

935
00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.000
a big furry costume and start walking through people's front

936
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.960
yards trying to scare him, either that guy that owns

937
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:05.199
the house is going to come out and put some

938
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.079
hot lead on you, or somebody's going to stop there

939
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.519
their f one fifty pick up on the side the

940
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:14.079
road and pull out his rifle and put some lead

941
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:18.159
on you. You know. So it's either that a crazy person,

942
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:21.719
which you'd have to be mental to do something like that,

943
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:28.360
or it was real. So I don't know, but that's

944
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.679
that's what he told me. And then the other neighbor

945
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.199
over here where the campground is, there was a guy

946
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.719
over there and he's from Florida, and he claimed that

947
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:41.119
he was going to the everglade and there was one

948
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.440
standing right out on the side the road. He said,

949
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.800
traffic came to a stop and him and his wife

950
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.159
both saw it. So he when I talked to him

951
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.280
about it, he doesn't laugh. He's like, yeah, I saw one.

952
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.079
And he said, well, I'm not the only person that

953
00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:00.920
you know, encounters this. But then so this year, like

954
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.039
I said, I deer hunt back here right on my property,

955
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.960
and my next door neighbors said giving me permission to

956
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.639
hunt their property. So during the rut, I was putting

957
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.320
up cameras back there, trying to, you know, see what

958
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.920
time the bos are coming. Through. So I go down

959
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:20.800
through to every day and check these cameras, so I

960
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:25.000
know what's what in the woods right in that area.

961
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:29.920
So I go down there one day and there's a

962
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.679
tree that's about, I don't know, about as big around

963
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:37.039
as my arm, maybe about fifteen twenty feet tall, and

964
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.519
I thought it had been pulled well, I guess it

965
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.960
was pulled over, but it was pulled over and broken

966
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:49.360
off down by the base. And I thought, now, why

967
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:51.320
the world would have done that, because there wasn't any

968
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:55.280
windstorms or anything last night, and nobody else goes down

969
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.840
there hunts but me. I mean, I'm the only person

970
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:02.079
who goes down there. Now, I guess it could have

971
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:06.800
been a bear that did it. I guess maybe I've

972
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:11.079
never seen bears pulling trees over like that before, but

973
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:14.719
I guess it could have been a bear. But I

974
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.119
don't know, because down in that area is where the

975
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:20.000
guy said he saw the balls of white. And then

976
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.719
the next thing you know, I got this tree down

977
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:26.679
there that's pulled down. Out of millions of trees, there's

978
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.079
just this one tree right there, and it's along the

979
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:33.519
avenue that I was traveling to go check the cameras,

980
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.639
which is kind of creeps me out because it's almost

981
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:41.159
like in your face, like hey, letting you know that

982
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:47.119
I'm over here. So to it may sound strange to people.

983
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.440
I don't know, but it makes me feel better because

984
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:53.119
I don't know. Like I said, I listen to all

985
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.239
this stuff. I see the shows on TV, and some

986
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:59.639
people think that they're telepathic and whatnot. Maybe they are,

987
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.360
they're not. I don't know, but just in case, they

988
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.800
are just all the odd off chants that they are.

989
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.159
When I get out of my truck to the hunting now,

990
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.320
I say a little not a maybe a prayer, but

991
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.159
a little message to them in my mind. You know,

992
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.599
I'm like, Hey, I'm not here to bother you your family.

993
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.360
I'm just out here hunting deer, big sturky water. The

994
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.679
case may be, I don't really want to see you,

995
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:26.039
I don't want to be bothered by you. And as

996
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:28.119
soon as i'm done, I'll take all my trash with

997
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.480
me and I'll leave. So I don't know if that

998
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:33.920
helps or not, but it can't hurt, you know what

999
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:41.679
I mean. So I do that. But yeah, so I

1000
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:43.719
don't know, Like I said, with the hogs, they're just

1001
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:46.440
suddenly disappeared up here, So I don't know if it's

1002
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:52.800
if Bigfoot is wipe them out, or if they've decided

1003
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.920
Bigfoot is something they don't want to deal with so

1004
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:58.360
they've left the area. But I haven't seen one up

1005
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:02.159
here really in about two years, and I think that's

1006
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:05.119
just so bizarre because there's not too many guys up

1007
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.880
here to actually hunt hogs. I asked guys that to

1008
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:11.800
you seeing hogs or hunt hogs? All they like one

1009
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.599
or two other guys and actually, you know, dedicated to

1010
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.239
hunt hogs. And I'm pretty sure they didn't mike them

1011
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:21.760
a lot, because there's must be thousands, hundreds of thousands

1012
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.639
of them up there. Probably they breed like roaches.

1013
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.039
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1014
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:50.280
It's extremely interesting. You have a ton of really interesting

1015
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:56.119
anecdotes from all over the place. I had no idea

1016
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:58.599
you're really going to go all over the place. This

1017
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:03.079
has been a very cool conversation. It's it's very unique

1018
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.719
to have someone on the show that, or at least

1019
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:09.320
for my show. I've only been able to talk to

1020
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:14.679
a handful of individuals that have been involved with out

1021
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:20.519
there in Fort Lewis in Washington. It's such an interesting

1022
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:21.960
area out there.

1023
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:26.719
Yeah, it's it's crazy out there. So I've never seen

1024
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.079
angels like got in my life until I first got there,

1025
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.159
and you can just see the ants crawling all over.

1026
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.800
The whole thing is pulsate. Oh man, no way. That's

1027
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:38.639
the only place I ever slept in an igloo overnight too.

1028
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.920
It snowed on us, start snowing one night and we

1029
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:45.199
didn't have tents and made it in like a sleeping

1030
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:50.079
inside the vehicle. So we actually built a snow shelter

1031
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.719
and our whole squad of was got in there like

1032
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:57.199
sardines and we were very comfortable. So it was I

1033
01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:01.960
experienced quite a few things out there. You go to

1034
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:03.840
the eastern part of the state and it's a whole desert,

1035
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:07.639
and we did lots of training out there, and yeah,

1036
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:11.760
it was different, really different. But so so when I

1037
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.400
moved here, when I moved back home to Georgia and

1038
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:16.559
the whole Bigfoot thing was I blame it on my

1039
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:20.880
father because when I was a little kid, they didn't

1040
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.280
have all these shows on TV. There was no internet

1041
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.960
back there in the late sixties, thirty seventies. Like I said,

1042
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:29.880
I'm older than dirt, but you had to go to

1043
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:34.960
the theater to see these documentaries about Bigfoot, and every

1044
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.519
time one came on, my dad drugged me to the

1045
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:41.880
theaters to see him. So I always kind of blame

1046
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:48.639
him for that. But I never I never really thought

1047
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:52.239
that Georgia would be a place where there was bigfoots.

1048
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:55.960
I mean, you know, there's I believe in polar bears,

1049
01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:59.559
but I don't think there's any living in Georgia because this,

1050
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.119
you know, that's not where they live up in the

1051
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.079
Arctic Circle. So I believe in moose, but I've never

1052
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.440
seen one in Georgia, so that was my rationale. And

1053
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.000
you know, they they all live up in the Pacific

1054
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:16.400
Northwest or Canada or somewhere far up north. And I

1055
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:19.840
even talked to a guy right down the road. I

1056
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.159
think it was last year. I was going to go

1057
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:23.639
turkey hunt, and in this case, I got a lot

1058
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.599
of national forests around my property here, and I was

1059
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:28.599
going to this one spot and there was a couple

1060
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.360
walking down the road and when I came back out,

1061
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.760
they were going the other way, and I figured they

1062
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:35.360
must live over here in one of these houses. So

1063
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:39.519
I'm going to ask him about the turkeys, and so

1064
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.719
he said, oh, we don't live here. We're here with

1065
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:47.599
my wife's parents live over here. We're from Ohio. And

1066
01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:50.920
so I told him about, you know, the turkey. He goes, oh,

1067
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.000
I'm a turkey hunter too. I loved the turkey hunt.

1068
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.880
And I said, oh, really, so here we go. He

1069
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:58.199
opens me up. Now I know he's an outdoorsman. I

1070
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:01.159
can ask him my question. To ask him, I said,

1071
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:04.880
you're from Ohio, I said, so, I just came out

1072
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:06.760
and asked him. I said, have you have you ever

1073
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:11.119
seen Bigfoot? Because it's some you know, pretty popular thing

1074
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.320
up there. And he goes no. He goes no, but

1075
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.039
I believe in it. He goes, I live on the

1076
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:18.119
wrong side of the state. All the Bigfoot lives on

1077
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.800
the other side of the state. And I was like, what,

1078
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:25.039
I had no idea that there were, you know, segregated

1079
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:26.679
like that where they only live on one part. But

1080
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:29.679
I guess, I guess that's you know whatever. But he goes, yeah,

1081
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:31.480
I believe in it. I was like, you're the first

1082
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:35.079
guy I've talked to at this time it has ever

1083
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.239
told me yes, I believe in this, because everyone else

1084
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.199
says I asked him, they just start snickering, laughing and whatever.

1085
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:46.280
So for me to experience these things up here. And

1086
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:48.320
you know how a lot of these people will tell

1087
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.079
you I was out here and the hair stood up

1088
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.480
on the back of my neck. Well, I don't have

1089
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:58.840
hair anymore, but if I did. There's only one place. Oh,

1090
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.000
I almost I have to tell you this one. This

1091
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.920
is I'm not really sure, but I got to tell

1092
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:09.320
you this. It's another It's also part of the Swallow

1093
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:14.199
Creek Wildlife Management Area that it's that that some people know.

1094
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:21.679
This Wildlife Management Area encapsulates about nineteen thousands square acres

1095
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:26.079
up here. It's a pretty large area and there's lots

1096
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:29.039
of little feeder roads to go into it all around

1097
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.519
it kind of uh, you know, you got a spider

1098
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:33.559
and then all the legs come out those roads. The

1099
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:37.239
legs would be the roads going in. So I had

1100
01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:42.800
found another road that wasn't even marked. It was just

1101
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:45.719
off of another road, and I went down and come

1102
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:49.559
to find out that's the service road for that part

1103
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.840
of the WMA. And then I found a trail to

1104
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.079
go down the mountain. It takes about ten minutes to

1105
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:58.679
get all the way down this mountain, and there's three

1106
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:00.840
food plots down there, and I find him on this

1107
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.519
map on this hunting app that I got, and I

1108
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:05.920
saw him on there, and I was like, okay, I

1109
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.079
had to find the trail. Finally found the trail and

1110
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:12.360
sure enough, turkey's down there are stick as peanut butter.

1111
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:15.079
So I decided I'm going to start turkey hunting down there.

1112
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:22.880
So getting down there in the dark, it's it's creepy

1113
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.719
to say the least. And I'm you know, I'm heavily armed.

1114
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:27.880
Not only do I carry my shotgun and I got

1115
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.239
a ten millimeter pistol with me in case the bears

1116
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:33.159
want to, you know, try to eat me for lunch.

1117
01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:37.880
I have been paced by a coyote going down there before,

1118
01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:40.280
you know, I'd be walking and I hear something walking

1119
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.079
next to me and then I stopped and they would stop.

1120
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:44.280
I walk a little more and they were all I thought,

1121
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:47.639
what does that turn the light? Streaky coyote, he's got

1122
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:53.039
the balls to you know, he's pacting me better run.

1123
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:57.880
So I'm down there one one morning and I get

1124
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:01.920
down there before sunrise because the sunrise is when the

1125
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.000
turkeys come off the roost and they're gonna fly down

1126
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.000
onto these shields and that's when your best chance again one.

1127
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:09.320
So I get down there, and like I said before,

1128
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.000
there was no truck in the area, so I felt

1129
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.840
comfortable to stop there and go down and figure this.

1130
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.599
And nobody else down there. Well, I get down there,

1131
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:22.199
and I have to pass through two other fields to

1132
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:23.960
get to the very last one to where I want

1133
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.800
it to be. And I'm sitting down there and this

1134
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.320
field is long and it shaved like a football. I

1135
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:34.119
feel long and skinny. And the very back end is

1136
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.199
the service road where the dn R comes in and

1137
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.119
they'll plow these things in the summer or whatever, and

1138
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:42.639
they plant different food for the animals. And I had

1139
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.039
talked to another gentleman who lived back there. He goes, yeah,

1140
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.760
that road goes through my property, so the DNR has

1141
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.800
come through my property to get to their road. And

1142
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.440
I thought, okay, that's interesting. So I'm down there this

1143
01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.800
morning and I'm sitting there, waiting, waiting, waiting, and from

1144
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:05.079
across this field further down from me, towards where that

1145
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.599
guy said his property was at, I see what I

1146
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:14.320
thought at the time was a person emerged out of

1147
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:18.439
the woods and he kind of walked out into the

1148
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.159
field a little bit and then went down towards where

1149
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:25.640
that guy's house was. The thing is, I couldn't really

1150
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.439
see clearly because the sun was just starting to come

1151
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.319
up a little bit, but I know he didn't have

1152
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:35.159
a gun, which I thought was kind of odd because

1153
01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:38.880
I'm thinking, who else comes down here on this field

1154
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.000
first thing in the morning, Turkey season and is not

1155
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:49.239
packing a shotgun? That's just odd. And you know, it

1156
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.560
just he was. I couldn't see if he was wearing

1157
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:53.359
camel or whatdy. It just it was like a black

1158
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.600
figure and it came out of the bushes, and I

1159
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.399
kept thinking about it and thinking about that, why would somebody

1160
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:04.199
be over there if you know there was And when

1161
01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:05.920
I got back up, when I left, I went back

1162
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.279
up to my truck, there was no trucks up there.

1163
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.520
So if he came from up on the road, he

1164
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:17.000
had to walk down a pretty hazardous decline through all

1165
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:19.920
that brush that we've talked about, I think I would

1166
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:24.279
have heard him coming down, and I don't know it

1167
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:27.439
just I didn't hear anybody out there. And to get

1168
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:31.359
there that way, I mean, you're you're really working hard

1169
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:33.119
to get through that stuff. If you're gonna come down

1170
01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:35.720
there just to go and get on that road and walk.

1171
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.239
And then I thought, well, if it's the guy that

1172
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:42.680
lives here, what's he doing over there in the woods

1173
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:47.319
in the dark, you know, And he doesn't have a gun,

1174
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:51.119
not that I could see, but it just it came out.

1175
01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:53.159
So the more I thought about it, the more I

1176
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:55.720
kind of wondered, you know, after I heard the max

1177
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:59.680
and if I thought, was that really a man that

1178
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:04.279
I I don't know, but it just you know, makes

1179
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:09.079
it gives me pause to wonder, because, like I said,

1180
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:11.279
I went back up, got in my truck and there

1181
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:15.680
was there want any other trucks up there. It was

1182
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:20.279
just me. It was kind of odd. So I don't know,

1183
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:25.079
And honestly, to be honest with you, I don't I

1184
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:28.359
don't want Bigfoot to be real because I enjoying going

1185
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.359
out in the woods and the thought that I'm going

1186
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:34.319
out there and there's some eight nine foot thousand pound

1187
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:38.119
gorilla out there that could rip my head off, it's

1188
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:42.079
kind of kind of freaks me out. Now, you know,

1189
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:43.880
I don't want to see it. I don't want to know.

1190
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:45.560
It's like I said, when I go out and say

1191
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:47.920
my little thing, I don't want to know you're anywhere around.

1192
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:49.359
I don't want to smell you. I don't want to

1193
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.279
see you. I don't want to see your head peeking

1194
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.840
out from any tree or anything of that kind of stuff.

1195
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:55.920
I just I don't want to. I don't. What I

1196
01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:58.359
really don't want is the people that I hear them

1197
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.439
when they say they're coming up and whacking side of

1198
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:02.439
the houses at night and stuff like. I'm not gonna

1199
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.319
put up with that. I mean, I I have more

1200
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:08.760
guns than God would allow a parent that that kind

1201
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:11.159
of stuff starts. You know, I'm going to take you're

1202
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:13.800
a business, but you know, do you stay out of

1203
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.119
my yard and I won't bother you. But so far

1204
01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:20.119
I haven't had any you know, problems with stuff like that.

1205
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:23.159
Knock on wood. Yeah, I don't. I don't want to,

1206
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:26.600
but uh, you know, just the thought that you're you're

1207
01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:29.840
going out there and there's this thing that could just

1208
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:34.840
rip your arms off, It's kind of this kind of

1209
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:35.439
creeps me out.

1210
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:40.359
The good thing though, is that I like, how before

1211
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.479
you go out hunting, you even though you may not

1212
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:49.600
entirely believe in the communication, you know mentally you are

1213
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:53.199
still having that you know you're sending that out, you know,

1214
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:57.560
and so your intention is correct, you know.

1215
01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:02.119
Yeah, let them know my very respectful. When I go

1216
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.479
out there, I see places. I mean sometimes I walk

1217
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:08.239
for a couple of miles out there and I'll find

1218
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.560
beer cans and trash. I'm like, who walks way out

1219
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:17.119
here to drink beer? You know? Who brought a six

1220
01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:20.199
pack two miles up the side of a mountain to

1221
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:21.960
drink beer? And then there's a store on the ground,

1222
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:24.840
And I'm like, you know, you have no respect for

1223
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:28.600
the woods and you know, Mother Earth and all that

1224
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:33.000
kind of stuff. Because one thing I learned in the

1225
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:38.720
army was trash is the enemy can tell a lot

1226
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.800
about you by your trash. So if you leave trash

1227
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.439
on the battlefield and they find it, they can tell

1228
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.520
a lot about you. So I learned early on in

1229
01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:50.159
my life when you're out in the woods, everything that

1230
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.600
you bring out there with you basically goes back out

1231
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.800
with you. I mean, I went through a school when

1232
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:01.439
I was in the Army, which was I don't want

1233
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:03.640
to mention the name of it because I don't like

1234
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:07.520
the politics involved with it. Now, one phase of it,

1235
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:09.640
most of it that is actually here in Georgia one

1236
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.000
phase of it is actually up here in the North

1237
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:18.479
Georgia Mountains, and so they would give us a certain

1238
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:22.239
amount of food to take out on the patrols and say,

1239
01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:26.680
if it was a seven day patrol, you got seven meals.

1240
01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:30.359
When you got back, you better have either the meals

1241
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.640
that you didn't eat, which was basically most of them,

1242
01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:36.000
or you better have the trash, because they would check

1243
01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:39.560
to make sure that whatever you took out you brought

1244
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.720
back because otherwise people can you know, hey, I found

1245
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:46.439
this toilet paper, and I found the candy wrappers. These

1246
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.920
guys are very well supplied because they got candy, toilet paper,

1247
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:52.399
they got cigarettes where they did their cigarette butts down

1248
01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:55.199
up you know, all those little things. I've learned, you know,

1249
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:59.079
over the years. So I don't leave stuff out in

1250
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:01.640
the woods like that habit. And when I see people

1251
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.079
leaving trash and stuff out there, just it just burns

1252
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:06.359
me up. I'm like, you know, you're just destroying it

1253
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:10.039
for the next generation or the animals that are out

1254
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:14.279
here and whatnot. So like I said, I try, if

1255
01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:16.840
they are real, if they really are out there, I'll

1256
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:20.760
let them know, Hey, I respect you, and I'm not

1257
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:24.000
out here to cause you any problems. You know, if

1258
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:25.920
you really don't want me out here, you throw a

1259
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:27.600
couple of ocks ors and sticks at me, and I'll

1260
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:32.119
believe me goutch because I don't want to. I'm not

1261
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.000
the redneck that says I'm going to shoot one because

1262
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:39.119
I don't believe that there's just one run around by itself.

1263
01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:43.199
I have a feeling that they're probably family units, and

1264
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.800
if you, I just I just get the feeling if

1265
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:48.840
you mess with one of them, that the rest of

1266
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:50.279
them are just going to gang up on you and

1267
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:52.720
that's going to be a real bad day for you.

1268
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:52.960
You know.

1269
01:14:54.000 --> 01:15:00.800
No, I have the same thought where you know, and

1270
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:03.600
I think there's a lot of other people that also

1271
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:05.720
have the same feeling. It kind of kind of like

1272
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:09.479
in you remember Jurassic Park, the first one, and you

1273
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:13.039
have Muldoune, you know, tries to take down the raptor,

1274
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:15.840
and then the other two raptors show up on either

1275
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.760
side of them. Big for Society will be right back

1276
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:19.880
after these messages.

1277
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:37.600
Yeah, it's gonna be.

1278
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.680
It's gonna be like that pretty much on a lot, or.

1279
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.760
Like uh or it would be like uh, you know

1280
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:47.119
how mountain gorillas live there there are big family units,

1281
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.000
and there's not there's not this want of want there

1282
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:55.039
a matter of fact, pretty much everything out here except

1283
01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:57.800
for the bears. The bears are pretty much the owners

1284
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:02.760
unless you have a slow or ubs. But everything else

1285
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:07.000
out here. I kid people, I tell them I basically

1286
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:10.039
have a deer farm, a deer and a turkey farm

1287
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:13.760
out in my front yard. Because it slopes away, we're

1288
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:15.920
kind of up on the side of the mountain and

1289
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:17.960
sometimes I have to hank the horn on my car

1290
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:21.520
to get the deer to move off my driveway. They're

1291
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.359
just standing there looking at me, and they're like, what

1292
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.119
what do you want? You know, I would like to

1293
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.159
I would like to get by. Please, Can you just

1294
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:31.600
move out away? And then you can come back and

1295
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:33.520
eat all the grass you want. The more you eat,

1296
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:37.319
the less I have to mow. But uh, you know,

1297
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.720
and like I said, we've had hogs and stuff out here,

1298
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:45.119
But I do think it's strange about the hogs and

1299
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.199
the deer. As a matter of fact, this month there's

1300
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:53.039
a I think it's called Georgia's Sportsman Magazine something like that.

1301
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:57.159
It's a Georgia specific hunting and fishing magazine and on

1302
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:02.000
the front cover is a wild boar, and so you know,

1303
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:03.800
I want to grif stot flipping through it while my

1304
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:08.439
wife's shopping. And you don't have to report killing hogs

1305
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:10.760
up here, there's no limit, but the game warden told me,

1306
01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:13.239
I want tom kill as many as you can, you know,

1307
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.560
because there's just so many of them. At that time

1308
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.800
they were and they have this state divided up into

1309
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:24.319
different sectors. So I looked on my sector up here

1310
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:28.000
in Towns County, and like I said, I don't know

1311
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:32.239
who's reporting to the DNA that they kill hogs, but

1312
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.319
for the whole hunting season, I said, like either one

1313
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:41.479
or two had been reported killed. And that's odd. That's see,

1314
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:43.720
every time I tell you something like this, it makes

1315
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:48.399
me remember something else. So my son in law, the

1316
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:54.239
big hog hunter from Hawaii, is taking my granddaughter to school,

1317
01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:56.439
and the school's just right around the corner down here.

1318
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:02.079
One morning, and apparently someone had hit a hog out

1319
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:04.920
on the road out there, and he threw it on

1320
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.319
top of his jeep. Turkey brought it back to our

1321
01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.840
house and threw it out here on the side of

1322
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:12.520
the yard because he wanted to see how his dog

1323
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.600
would interact with it. Well, he didn't tell me about it, So,

1324
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.000
you know, he goes to work, my granddaughter goes to school,

1325
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:23.439
and I come outside, let my dog out. I got

1326
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:27.039
a Rottweiler, and then my son Wall's healer, and I

1327
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:28.800
see this thing out there in the yard. I'm like,

1328
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:31.079
what the world is that. I go down there and

1329
01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:34.720
it's a dead hog. How did this hog get in

1330
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.760
the yard and just fall over dead? So anyway, long

1331
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:40.920
story short, he tells me what happened, and I said, well,

1332
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:42.880
we can't just leave that hog laying out here in

1333
01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.239
the yard. It's going to start to stink the place up.

1334
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:48.239
So I put it on the back of my truck,

1335
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.720
and I had an idea, said, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1336
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:52.560
take it down to the other end of the property

1337
01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:56.000
where there's a power line cut that goes through our property,

1338
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.000
and I'm going to stake it down and get a

1339
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.279
metal steak and I'm going to tie it down to

1340
01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:02.840
that and I'm going to put a camera on it,

1341
01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:05.199
and I'm going to watch and see what comes over

1342
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:11.199
there to eat it. So for about I don't know,

1343
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:14.399
three or four days or so, I can drive by

1344
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:16.359
there and I could look with my binoculars and see

1345
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:19.960
the hog laying there. And I checked the camera a

1346
01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:23.039
couple of times, and it was like nothing wanted to touch

1347
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.520
that hog. For some strange reason. Once in a while

1348
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.640
there'd be a crow or a buzzard come down. Nothing.

1349
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:31.520
And then in the afternoon, I usually go and pick

1350
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.079
up my granddaughter from school, and so on the way home,

1351
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:37.880
she says, Papa, let's drive by and see if the hog.

1352
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.119
What's going on with the hog? Because I had already

1353
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:42.720
pulled the camera off of it because I needed it

1354
01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.239
somewhere else, because I was like, nothing's touching that hog.

1355
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:47.520
I'm not wasting camera time. I've only got a few

1356
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:50.399
of them, and you and I've had bears take my

1357
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:54.119
cameras and chew them up before. And so the camera

1358
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:55.880
was gone. But we drive by and I get to

1359
01:19:55.880 --> 01:20:01.560
buy it. No, look, the hog is gone and completely gone.

1360
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:05.800
And I was said, wow, is it's gone? I mean

1361
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:09.439
overnight was gone. Now when I took that hog out

1362
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:11.680
of my truck and I had to drag him over

1363
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:15.039
there to that power line. You know, okay, probably weigh

1364
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.640
about fifty pounds. Maybe I had drug him through the

1365
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:20.600
leaves and had left a trail a big drag mark

1366
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:25.199
through the woods. So I go down there after I

1367
01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:27.479
dropped my granddaughter off, you know, at the house, and

1368
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:32.359
go down there in my truck. The cord, which was

1369
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:36.279
it was like a almost like parachute cord, real high

1370
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.840
kncel strength cord had been broken. It didn't look like

1371
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:41.560
it had been chewed through. It looked like something had

1372
01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:46.159
just snapped it and the hog was gone. There were

1373
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:49.560
no drag marks anywhere. It's like that hog just stood

1374
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:53.720
up and walked off, or something came over there, snapped

1375
01:20:53.720 --> 01:20:56.319
that cord, picked up that hog and left with it.

1376
01:20:57.119 --> 01:20:59.880
Now we have a bear out here, like I said,

1377
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.439
we have about a six on a plus pound blackbrother.

1378
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:05.560
We call it big Gym. I guess big Gym could

1379
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:08.720
have picked it up in his mouth and walked off

1380
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.960
with it. I don't know, but I thought that was

1381
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:16.359
really odd that there wasn't a drag mark anywhere, and

1382
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:18.039
you can see the drag marks where I drug it

1383
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:21.880
over there. But so whatever, I had no idea what

1384
01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:25.239
picked that plog up and ran off with it? There

1385
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.239
was there wasn't any pieces of it laying around nothing.

1386
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:29.760
You know.

1387
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.520
That's that's so weird because I hear man, I hear

1388
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.800
people tell me stuff similar with like elks they've shot

1389
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:41.600
out in uh Idaho where they come back real quick.

1390
01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:44.439
The elk is entirely gone. It's like where to go,

1391
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:48.079
It's there's no drag marks. It's just it's crazy stuff.

1392
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:48.279
Ed.

1393
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:52.840
You've got some really interesting things that have happened over

1394
01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:54.560
the years. And I think if you keep doing what

1395
01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:58.520
you're doing, stuff is just gonna keep happening to you.

1396
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:00.039
And I'd love to keep in touch with.

1397
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:04.399
The Okay, maybe I'll stop doing because I don't really

1398
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:04.880
want to do.

1399
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:09.159
That's that's true. I forgot most people are like, well,

1400
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:10.199
this isn't really my thing.

1401
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:14.680
So I mean, I I'm fascinating by me. Like I said,

1402
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:16.399
I've since been a part of me since I was

1403
01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:21.520
a kid. I watched every TV show there's one on there.

1404
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.279
I watched just the Heckle because I think it's kind

1405
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.079
of funny. Yeah, this is this will be my last

1406
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.880
little story. Is when I was still a policeman in

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01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:35.600
Hawaii a few years before I retired, I said, my

1408
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.479
wife was from Hawaii. I brought her back over here

1409
01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:41.680
to Georgia and we came up here to North Georgia

1410
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.680
for a day, she and I and my sister to

1411
01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:46.000
drive around and I said, this is where we're going

1412
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.840
to live. And she was like, there's there's no how

1413
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:51.399
do see any houses up here? Where are we going

1414
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:53.520
to live? But most of the place were going through

1415
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:56.600
was national forest. Still, of course there's snow houses and

1416
01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:59.640
in Hawaiian people live on top of each other basically,

1417
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:04.399
so she was like, wow, this is there's nothing up here.

1418
01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:07.000
I was like, yeah, it's perfect. There's no people up

1419
01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:09.439
here to bother me, nothing, because after being a copy

1420
01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:11.119
you just don't want to be around people no more.

1421
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:15.199
But anyway, so this was the first year that the

1422
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:19.640
show Finding Bigfoot was coming on, and we had gone

1423
01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:22.479
back to Hawaiian went back home and the very first

1424
01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:24.479
episode was going to come on, and I was I

1425
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:28.119
couldn't wait to watch it, you know, And my wife

1426
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.199
was laying on a little sofa in front of the

1427
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.960
TV and she had fallen asleep. And so the show

1428
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:37.960
comes on and what do you know, they're right up

1429
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.359
here in Helen, George. It's a little alpine village thing, right,

1430
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:46.199
It's like fifteen miles from my house. Tonight, we're in

1431
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:50.760
the North Georgia Mountains looking for a sasquats and I thought, oh, oh,

1432
01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:55.640
my wife sees this. She had never moving to Georgia,

1433
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:57.840
so I tried to stink. I turned the volume down

1434
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.319
a little bit, thinking she won't wake up. And you

1435
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:04.039
know they do their their little town hall meeting things. Well,

1436
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.279
they had their town hall meeting right there in Alpine Helen.

1437
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:10.560
I don't know if you've ever heard of her word.

1438
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.359
It looks like a little German town. They have October Festa, right,

1439
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.800
so they're having their little town hall right there, right

1440
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:20.199
where we went through, right by where we had lunch

1441
01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:23.600
and everything. Right when that was that part of the show

1442
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.359
was airing, my wife wakes up and she looks up

1443
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.239
at the TV and she watches it for like about

1444
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.680
thirty seconds. So she goes, hey, that looks like that

1445
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:37.920
place we went. And I'm sitting out there going oh no,

1446
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.439
and she goes, I said, it is that's Helen Georgia.

1447
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.560
Because what show is this? I was like, here we go.

1448
01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:51.319
I said, it's it's Finding Bigfoot. Oh that was it.

1449
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:56.960
She does lost it. There's big cut, George. I am

1450
01:24:57.079 --> 01:25:00.520
not moving over there nowhere. She just kind of lost

1451
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:02.680
your right about the whole Bigfoot thing. But she got

1452
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:07.800
but I was like, what the odds she would wake

1453
01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:09.840
up right when that was on, you know, and I

1454
01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:10.560
got to tell her.

1455
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:18.560
Larious, Oh my god, oh good stuff. Uh absolutely, man,

1456
01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:23.319
thank you for for coming on the show and for

1457
01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:27.279
for sharing what you've experienced over the years. And you know, definitely,

1458
01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:29.960
you know.

1459
01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:33.279
If anything else happened, dog, you will be the first.

1460
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:38.119
One please reach out. Yeah. Absolute, but thank you, thank

1461
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.319
you for coming on. I greatly appreciate it.

1462
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:44.279
I appreciate it too, Thanks for having me.

1463
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:47.399
I just wanted to take a few minutes to say

1464
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:51.279
thank you to you allman listeners for listening to the podcast.

1465
01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:54.960
Please take a minute to help out the show by

1466
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:58.560
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01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:08.439
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01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:15.880
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1472
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.800
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

1473
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:23.079
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1474
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:26.560
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1475
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:32.199
Here's the list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1476
01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:37.880
McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1477
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:41.680
the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

1478
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:45.199
see you back next time. Listeners. SASA Summerfest this year

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