Jan. 7, 2026

Staredown from the Backyard! | Alabama

Staredown from the Backyard! | Alabama
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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron on Bigfoot Society as he interviews Frank Fischer, an outdoorsman and fisherman, about his recent mysterious encounter just over the Georgia border into Alabama. Frank details his strange experience involving large glowing red eyes in his backyard near the Talladega National Forest. Listen as they discuss the possibilities of what it could be—Bigfoot or a large bear. Frank also shares past unexplained events from his life, seeking closure for these strange occurrences. Tune in for a compelling conversation filled with firsthand accounts and eerie details.

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You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,

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all right, Pick the Society. We get the privilege of

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talking to mister Frank Fisher today. Frank is an individual

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got connected to He's a fisherman and an outdoorsman. He

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had a really interesting thing happen that greatly affected him

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as we were talking a little bit before the show started.

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It really really got him curious, shook him up too.

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So welcome to the show, Frank. Carry you doing today, sir?

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Oh? Thanks man. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good, pretty good.

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I'm glad to be able to talk to somebody that

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I might be able to get some information from. I

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wish I could have talked to you about a month

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or so ago when it first halpened, you know, but

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it's still very fresh in my brain, that's for sure.

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Oh yeah.

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And man, just the fact that it's within it's like

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a month, month and a half. I mean that is

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extremely recent for this field. A lot of people I

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talked to it's like, well, it happened twenty thirty years ago,

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but I mean a month that's pretty wild. So Frank,

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can you take us to what area this happened in

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and what was going on that day?

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Well, the area is it's just over the Georgia borderline

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into Alabama off of I twenty. It's like brand Burne

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Muscadine area. Some people refer to it as Hafflin Crewver's

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It's yeah, it's it's a bunch of small towns out there.

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And uh, it was right off I twenty, like I say,

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near exit two ten. Uh. And uh, actually I had

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UH before I even moved out here. I Uh, I

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had checked into UH on the on the bfr OH

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website they have you know, sightings, and the last two

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sightings that they had out here in Alabama were in

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this area. So I, you know, I saw that I

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was like, oh man, this is wild. You know. I

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called my son because you know, we we like talking

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about you know, Bigfoot. It's it's it's an interesting comp

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you know, conversation, interesting copic and uh so like we're

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we're talking about this, and you know, at the time,

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I didn't think anything would ever come of it. Well,

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about a month or so ago, I got up, it

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was about four o'clock in the morning, and I turned

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a back light on to let the dogs out in

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the backyard. And it's just a little bug light. It's

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not a very bright light. Well, it's probably about maybe

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about one hundred and fifty feet maybe give or takes

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them a There's an area in my property. I sit

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up high at where my house is at. I'm kind

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of like on a little hill, and then the property

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dips down to a drainage and the drainage runs through

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the property and then it goes back up and it

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leads out into the woods. I mean, I'm all surrounded.

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I'm not far at all from the Talladega National Forest.

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And you've got like Talladega and then you've got it's

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like all green belt. If you look at it on

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the map. Uh it's it's a huge, just a huge

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forest area. It goes off into Georgia and it expands

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and goes out all through Alabama. This we're not that

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far from a Chehaw Mountain. It's the highest elevation in Alabama.

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I forget what it is, somewhere around four thousand and

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four thousand, five hundred feet and so. Anyways, so I

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turned on the light and out there near this drainage,

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I catch an eye. It's just one eye, but it

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was huge. It was a red maybe a reddish orange

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kind of eye glowing and the slash light. Yeah, with

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the bug light on the on the on the on

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the house. I mean, you know, a bug light doesn't

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give off much light, right, and I would imagine that

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this eye had to be pretty big and s incident

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to be able to you know, reflect the light of

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just this bug light. So I grabbed my flashlight because

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we have a flashlight right next to the door, and

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I shined the flashlight out there. Now, the flashlight needs

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new batteries. Again. I wish I would have had a

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better flashlight at the time, but I didn't. And I

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shined it out there, and all of a sudden, I

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got these two huge red glowing eyes looking at me,

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and I'm like, what the heck is that? And I

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mean they're far apart, it's not like they're close together.

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And it actually looked at me for you know, a

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couple of seconds, and then you could you could make

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out this whatever it was like turning its head because

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the way the eye shine went away, you know, you

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see the eye shine diminish. I'm like, man, where did

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it go? So I started scanning around real quick, and

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it had already made it up the hill going back

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up the other side, heading towards the wor it had

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already made it up about over half the way when

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I caught it again. So and I mean the thing

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turned around and looked at me. It didn't just get

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scared because of the flashlight and take off running. And

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that was the end. It turned and looked at me again,

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and I'm like, look at this thing, you know, what

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the heck is this? And again it turned it and

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like I say, when it turned.

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Its head, it I can't say it looked like it

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was on a neck, you know what I mean, like

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a human where you know, you have your body because.

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If it was a bear, because we have bears out here,

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We've found a few bear tracks in the yard, so

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I know there's bear out here. And that's pretty much

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what I was thinking it was at the time when

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I first started watching this thing, I'm thinking, you know,

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what is this a bear? You know, well, the way

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it turned its head just it looked more like it

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was set up, like I say, on a pair of

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shoulders and neck. Anyway, So it turned and I lost

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it again because it turned and walked away and it

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was out of its eyes were out of the shine

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of the flashlight. So I started scanning around again, and

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then I picked it up one more time. It stopped

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at the top of the hill and was turned looking

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at me again, and I'm like, God to see, you know,

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I mean that really kind of like I thought, that

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was really neat. It kind of freak me out. I'm thinking,

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what is this, What's gonna stop and turn and look

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at me? I mean, even a bear, even though it's

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a big predator, you know, and you know, I'm sure

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they are very self confident, and you know, he might

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have been looking back to see if you know, I

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was going to go after him or something. But you

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know a lot of times, even bears, they just turn

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around and run and take off from what I you know,

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a little bit I've seen of them. Yeah, so I

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caught it in the light for the second time. I

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turned back and looked at me, and then it was

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often too the woods. And you know, as far as

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like being able to tell how high it was, how

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tall it was, like I sit up on the highest

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point in my property and it was down at the

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lowest point, and then it went back up and it

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was it was at night. There wasn't any reference points,

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you know, so I tried to to, you know, think

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in my mind exactly what you know about where the

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eyes were, especially when it was on the other side

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of the property and down at the very bottom. I

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went down there, and you know, it's just it's so

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hard to say, I mean, because if it was a bear,

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it would have been obvious that it only would have

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been maybe three feet off the ground or something. But

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I just have a feeling it wasn't It wasn't that small.

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You know, it seemed like it it might had some

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some height to it, just because of the way that uh,

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you know, the the eye shine was, like I say,

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and at the bottom, at the top, it seemed like

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it was more, especially at the top, it was more

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like the background of the woods, not so much the

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background of the ground that it was standing on, because

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you know, if it's small and you're looking at it,

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it's gonna look like it's it's it's small, and you're

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going to see the ground all around it, not not

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the the oft in the distance where the woods and

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the sky is starting and everything. You know what I'm

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trying to say.

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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know so.

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Uh and that that was. That was pretty much it.

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And I, you know, I I went ahead and uh,

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you know, brought the dogs in and uh oh yeah.

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And and before that had happened, I got I got

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a little uh, I got a little pitfull. And she's

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not afraid of anything. She's she's a tough little dog,

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and she was there was a couple of nights before

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I had I had had this, you know experience. She

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was like throwing herself at the back and again that

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could have been you know, if there was a bear

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and it was in the back yard there, I'm sure

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that would have freaked her out too. But you know,

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she really had me wondering it was it was. It

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had happened two nights in a row where she was

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just like out there, and because usually she just sits

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at the back door and doesn't do anything, she might

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paw off the back door a little bit. But there

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was something out there was that was spooking her. And

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we got a lot of coyotes around too, that you

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know that that could have been it possibly, uh, And

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I've seen plenty of coyotes at night. And I mean

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I looked, I just scoured the internet trying to find

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anything on eyeshine, and I looked there was a finding

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big foot. It was called the Kentucky Eyeshine And I

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looked at that video and I compared in my you know,

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in my mind, of course, uh, what I had what

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I had saw for what they had, and the spacing

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was about the same, but it just seemed like what

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I saw had had bigger eyes. And you know, I

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was talking with some people and they said, well, maybe

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it was an owl, because I mean there's some huge

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rats and all kinds of you know, little garments, skunks

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and rats. We're not skunks probably, but rabbits and ramadillos,

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all that kind of stuff that's you know, just a

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little native animals that that owls could pick up at night.

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But I just can't see an owl turning back and

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looking at me and a bear possibly. But if it

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was a bear, it was a lobber, I'm gonna tell you,

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because those eyes were set far apart, man far apart,

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and uh so I didn't really come up with much

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of anything as far as uh you know, the internet

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goes that bears on trail cams and owls and stuff

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like that, and uh so, I was just hoping to

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talk to somebody that could help me make a little

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sense of you know what, I'm what I saw. I'm

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lost on.

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It, absolutely, uh it is.

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It is really interesting, especially that it was. It was

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it looked at it looked at you a few times.

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So you said the dogs were acting weird the first

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like the nights before, were they also acting weird that

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same night when you had them outside.

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Too, Well, what happened was they were out in the

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backyard and I was looking at this and I honestly

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couldn't tell you that there was there was. I can't

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even remember how many were out in the backyard because

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once I started looking at this thing, they were pretty

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much off my mind. Now I do know they they

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all came in with no problem because I had the

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door open and I was looking out there. It was

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starting to get cool, but it wasn't that bad yet.

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And uh, yeah, they they they didn't know they did.

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They didn't. They didn't go freaking out and throwing a fit.

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But they all came running in with no problem. Because

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a lot of times I can't get them in, they

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stay out in the backyard. They love it out there,

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so I'm not going to tell you. Yeah, you know,

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they came running in with their tails tuck, but I

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wasn't really paying attention to that, and they did all

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come in really quick, So they didn't stay out in

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the yard and nose around back there. They didn't go

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running down to the back of the us either, because

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it's a it's a fairly decent sized fenced in backyard,

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and they all just kind of stood up around near

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the house with me, and yeah, when it was time

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to come in, they all came in.

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Gotcha, You've kind of alluded to it a few times,

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but it sounds like we don't have a definite what

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you think the height of the eyes off the ground

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might be, or how far away from each other they.

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Were, Yeah, they were, they were far apart. I know

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that much. Okay, No, I mean not not ridiculously. And

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as far as height goes, now, it's so hard to

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say because it was one of those nights where it

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was really dark out No I don't know, you know,

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if the moon was just covered up, but I think

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it was one of those almost moonless nights or a

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really small moon. So everything was really really dark out there,

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because I mean, we're we're pretty mu much out in

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the middle of nowhere, and uh, you know, when there's

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a clear sky, you see stars everywhere. There's not a

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lot of uh, no city lights, no, no neighbors much

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to speak of. I have one neighbor that's about it,

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and uh, all of that is just like, uh, you know,

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there's there's there's no lighting to mess with anything, you

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know what I'm trying to right, it was really dark

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and where the eyes were at it was so hard

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to tell if it was if it was really tall

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or not. You know, standing up at the very top

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of the hill where it right before it went into

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the woods, it seemed like it it was up high

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enough so that it wasn't like looking like it was

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down on the ground that looked like it was up

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in the air more how much, you know, Like I said,

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I just I couldn't say. I couldn't say. That's that's

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why I was after I saw it, because you know,

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the eyes were so big and like I've said, it

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a bunch of times already spread so far apart. It

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had me wondering what the heck I had saw? And yeah,

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I just I don't know as far as hythe reference,

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I didn't have anything to reference. It too too dark,

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and the and the ground is just so irregular. Yeah,

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I wish, I wish I could have. Let me tell you,

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I got I got some night vision goggles for Christmas

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after after this happened. So I'm ready if if if

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I ever see anything out there again, I'm going to

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have those and I'm going to be able to you know,

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my luck it won't come back. But yeah, and if

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it is a bear, it could possibly come back, you know.

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Oh yeah, and absolutely so that that's actually a good

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conversation to have. Is so after this expan, How did

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this experience affect you in the days afterwards?

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Oh, I mean, I was, I was. I was totally

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taken by it. I was, I was, I was obsessed

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with seeing this thing again when I when I was

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I wake up a couple of times a night and

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I get out of bed instead of trying to roll

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over and go back to sleep, and i'd I'd be

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out there looking through the property trying to see something,

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you know, no, l no, Well, one night I think

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I saw a coyote. And I see the neighbors dogs

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every now and then we got some dogs that kind

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of run the neighborhood, you know, and their little tiny,

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small yellow eyes, you know, And that's there. You can

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you can definitely tell the difference between coyotes and dogs

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and and and what I saw there was no comparison.

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I mean, uh, what what what does do you know? Off?

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Can I look? And it said that bear do have

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like a red eye shine sometimes?

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Yeah, so the question is.

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Like what will have red what would have red glowing

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eyes at night? I'm guessing yeah, okay, so yeah, absolutely

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so there is actually and these guys are great. I

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just talked to Marie a few times on the show.

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But shout out mid Florida bigfoot dot com. They have

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a really good post where you can actually look up

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and they have it all written out. You know, what

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what things make the different colors of eye shine. So

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if we're looking at red eyeshine, it's going to be

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things such as alligators and crocodiles, different types of owls, nighthawks, woodcocks,

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black bear, gray red fox, river otters, seals, possums, rabbits, porcupines.

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Yo, Well, all of that would be totally out of

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the question, except for maybe if it could have possibly

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been a huge owl. But I don't it would have

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add to have been a monster owl. And I'll tell

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you something I would have I think I would have

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noticed it being closer to the ground because it was dark,

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and like I say, there was no real reference points

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for me to say, well it was as hall as

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that tree, or as hall as the branch on the tree,

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or or anything like that. But like I said, when

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it got to the top of the hills, my pupp

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like I say, I sit up high, and then my

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property goes down to drainage, and then after the drainage,

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it goes back up and up and up and up,

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and it goes off into the woods. And whatever it was,

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it covered a lot of ground really quick, So an

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owl could have done that possibly, But I think I

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just think I would have noticed it being an all

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and I don't think it would have turned around and

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looked at me, not twice, you know, the first time

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I shined a light. And it's I think if it

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was an awl, it probably would have would have taken off,

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you know. I mean it's it's it's just a bird.

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And it might be a bird of prey. But it's

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just a bird. It's not really uh you know, it's

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not a huge bear. It doesn't know it's its size

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a bear. It could have possibly been a bear. That's

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that's the only that's the only other thing I could

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I could have thought it was all the little things.

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No way, no way. It's especially you know the way

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it kind of almost slowly turned its head. It didn't

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it didn't seem like it was it was afraid of anything.

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You know. A long time ago I had I had

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a huge Burmese python and a monster size retick. And

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they knew how big they were. You could tell once

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they hit a certain size. When you went to pick

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them up. Sometimes they got a little uh, especially the

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reticulated python got a little nasty with me and would

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try to bite me. After a while, I put it

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in a cage. Do visuous but when it was small,

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it was fine. But once it got big, it it

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was uh yeah, it was. It knew its size, and

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I believe animals like bears, know their size, and it

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could have possibly been and you know, turned and looked

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at me because shining a light in its eyes, you know,

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it wasn't uh you know, it didn't. It didn't encourage

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it to stay around, so it started moving off, but

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to turn back and look at me twice like that.

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And then, like I say, at the top of the hill,

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it just from what I could when I could, I could,

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you know, imagine after after looking at that area the

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next morning, you know, because I was trying it because

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after you know, at first I didn't look at it

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and go, oh wow, this is a this is a

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big foot. You know. I was just more enormed with

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the eyes, the size of them, the color of them

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a distance apart, and you know, like I was saying,

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my dogs, I didn't I couldn't really tell you what

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they did. I know, they didn't run down there at

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the back fence and start barking. They do that a

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lot of times whenever they see something out in the yard.

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You know, they're you know, protectular their property.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, did you notice any or what were the sounds

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and smells of the backyard like when you were out there?

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Well, sound wise, the wind out here is since since

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they cleared this area and where I sit, I sit

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up pretty high, and uh, right after, right after this

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had happened, a lot of rain came and it was

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it was windy. It was real windy. And the way

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my house is facing, it blows from the north a

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lot of times and it hits the front of the

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house and goes out, so any any kind of when

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I say it goes out, it goes you know, out

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towards the back of my property, because I was in

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the backyard standing there looking out over my property and

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whatever I saw was out there pretty far. Like I said,

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at least, you know, it's hard to say too because

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again it's everything's that's it's it's such a rolling, hilly area.

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And as far as any smells, I can't say that

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I actually smelled anything, but it would have been hard

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to with the with the wind, because it that's one thing.

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We get some some some pretty decent wind blowing through

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out here. And I didn't hear anything either, you know,

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But yeah, that's about that.

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Gotcha the next.

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Day blame it all on the wind.

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Exactly the next day, did you take any time to

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go out in the backyard and did you notice anything

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out of the ordinary.

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Oh, I looked all over the place. I looked all

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over the place. I didn't notice anything. You know, the

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ground out here, this well, this was this was woods

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up until about a year year and a half ago

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because they had just freshly cleared this property. And I

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I've been trying to, you know, turn it into a

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yard out there, mowing and trying to trying to get

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some grass growing. And it's, uh, it's just a big field.

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It's full of weeds and stuff. Really, but this this

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this red clay, it packs down so hard, so hard,

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and the weeds are so small because it's it's it's

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a new property. It isn't like there's really you know,

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any kind of dense vegetation where something was a step

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in it. I could see footprints. Uh, we had we

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had we had seen some bear tracks out there, but

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that was after it had rained. And that that drainage area.

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When we first moved out here, it was a really

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wet area. If it would have if it would have

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been the way it was when we first moved here.

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I mean there was earthworms there, catch worms to go

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catch brim to go fishing for catfish, and I mean

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it was just it was a disaster back there. It

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was so muddy, and uh I worked on grooming a

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real deep drainage and I think it helped dry that

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area up back there, but uh, yeah, the ground is

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just so hard. There's a yeah, there was. There was

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no no prints, no nothing. I looked. I looked everywhere.

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I looked everywhere, you know, and I've seen bear prince,

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but that's usually after it rains. It was just it

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was just a bad time because the drainage back there

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had dried up and it hadn't rained in a while,

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and his front was getting ready to come through. It was,

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you know, things were cooling off, it was getting real windy,

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and then right after that it stormed. And you know,

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it would have been great if it would have rained

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right before, because this clayll stay wet for a while

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and even then there isn't many places they could step

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where it's just you know, open open clay. There's there's

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weeds and uh, you know, just all kinds of vegetation

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growing on the ground. Like I said, I've been trying

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to mow it and get it, get it looking decent,

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turn it into something like a yard. But yeah, I

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didn't notice anything. Didn't notice anything, then checked and looked.

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I was, I was. I was tempted to go out

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back and see if I could get anything, you know,

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maybe get some wood, do some wood, knocks or something,

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see if anything knocked back. Maybe do a call or something,

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see if I'd get anything. Answering me that way a

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few nights after. But my one neighbor might think I'm

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a little eccentric.

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I don't think so, you know, right, D speaking of

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your neighbor, have you ever had a conversation with that

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neighbor about if they've experienced anything weird on their property

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or is it not come up yet?

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No? Well, I I talked to them and they told

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me that that something happened to one of their dogs

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one time, that something had tried grabbing it because it

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was it was a big like cash in it, And

463
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.559
I mean that could be anything, you know. And then

464
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.359
I started asking them about bears and stuff like that,

465
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.599
and uh, his dogs run around the property, they're they're

466
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:14.680
out about all the time. And man, some nights they

467
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:20.559
are carrying on marketing stuff like that. Could be coyotes

468
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:25.839
or bears. I don't really know. Nobody's ever really seen anything,

469
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.119
you know, me or them, but like I say, it

470
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.240
has this property hasn't been cleared for too long. And

471
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:35.680
he's a lot younger than I am, and he's always working,

472
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.920
so you know, other than something happening to one of

473
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.519
his dogs, which you know, of course, could have been anything.

474
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.200
I don't even know if it was, if it was

475
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.920
a big foot, if they would have bothered going after

476
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:54.839
a dog or not. But the a bear might have

477
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.319
been able to you know. I like to I like

478
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.799
to I like to have things explain. I don't I

479
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.160
don't like the I don't like to not know. I mean,

480
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.400
let me just tell you something real quick. A long

481
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.640
time ago back and I grew up in South Florida,

482
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:18.519
you know, always out in the Everglades fishing, camping. Well,

483
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.599
one night, and this was probably back in like the

484
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.359
early eighties, I was just hanging out front with a

485
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.400
couple of my friends. We were drinking some beer, just

486
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.039
hanging out talking, and up in the sky, all of

487
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.240
a sudden, out of nowhere, there was this illuminated object,

488
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.119
big like oval, and we've everybody just looked up there

489
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.359
and like what is this thing? You know, we just

490
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.000
all stood there and we were just checking this thing

491
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.799
out in the sky, and then all of a sudden,

492
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.599
it just like disappeared. And you know when you when

493
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.240
you look at a light and then you shuck the

494
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.200
light off and you're in a dark room, you kind

495
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.680
of see an image in that light real briefly. Well,

496
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:08.720
that's like what this was up in the sky, and

497
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.960
it just disappeared and they left this this like light image.

498
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:18.279
Well years later, years later, after I had moved to Georgia,

499
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.039
I was watching a documentary and it was about UFOs

500
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.279
being explained. And I'm telling you it might be hard

501
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.920
to believe that they said one of their sightings, you know,

502
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.119
they were talking about all these different sidings, said the

503
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:35.160
next sighting is from Miami, Florida, you know, and so

504
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.200
I'm like, oh, cool from Miami, and it was it

505
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.759
was what I saw. It was what I saw. Somebody

506
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.240
got their camera out and back then, you know, you

507
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.519
didn't you didn't have a phone to record anything on

508
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.799
andy get their big movie camera out and they claimed

509
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.400
it was a blimp. Lit up from the inside. That's

510
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.200
the way it was explained away on this show, and

511
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.079
which it could have been, because you know, if it

512
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:03.720
was lit up and they shut the light out, I

513
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.000
could see seeing this image of this, you know, this

514
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.559
blimp up in the sky. But the problem was was

515
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.240
where I lived in Miami. I mean I've lived there

516
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.839
my whole life, and out in the Oka Laca Oka

517
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.680
Laca Airport they had a blimphanger and that was for

518
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.240
the Goodyear Blind and I mean this thing was sober

519
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.319
and it said Goodyear on the side of it, and

520
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.920
you know, I just had a hard time believing that

521
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.759
that was a you know, then it was a blimp

522
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.160
lit up from the inside. But it was explained away,

523
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.680
and I was happy with that, you know. And then

524
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:48.519
years later, right before we left Georgia, Oh no, no,

525
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.240
this was when we first moved. Yeah, this is when

526
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:55.079
we first moved to Georgia. Our home was built on

527
00:31:55.839 --> 00:32:02.680
a Confederate battle line, and one night I woke up

528
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.160
and I saw these illuminated figures in the in the

529
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.799
in the in the bedroom. They were like the head

530
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:13.640
and shoulders of what it looked like somebody back from

531
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.960
the Civil War era. Two guys and and one woman,

532
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:21.720
and they were just kind of lit up in the dark,

533
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.200
not blowing bright like a light, just lit up, almost

534
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.240
similar to the way the thing was I saw in

535
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.480
the sky. You know. It wasn't a bright light, but

536
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.000
you could see it in the dark. And they turned

537
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.839
and went through the wall as I was looking at him. Well,

538
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.920
my wife had told me. I told her what I saw,

539
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.599
and she said, oh my gosh, the boys were describing

540
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.279
something just like what you saw, you know, except they

541
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.240
saw the whole woman. They didn't see the guys. And

542
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.799
so years later, before I left Georgia, I saw this

543
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.319
special and it was talking about a waking dream and

544
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.240
it described exactly how I felt was when I woke up.

545
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.400
It felt like I couldn't move, but I was visually

546
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.720
looking at this stuff. And then I got up and

547
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:11.920
I was like, oh man, I wish it would happen again.

548
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.759
And that was explained away. So I had a waking dreams.

549
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.119
So the first one was an illuminated blimp and the

550
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.359
second one was awaking dream. So that's what I'm hoping

551
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.000
to find out with this. I want to try and

552
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.680
explain what I saw to myself. You know, I got

553
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.079
to have like a closure or something on it. And

554
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.640
you know, chances are it probably was you know, a bear,

555
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.160
because there was more bear than there was bigfoot in

556
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.680
the area. I'm pretty sure of that. But you know,

557
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:48.079
I just don't know, man, I just don't know.

558
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:53.559
You know, the Confederate ghost thing is interesting too, because

559
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:58.640
it's not just you that had that incident. It's also

560
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:04.640
the children, right, yeah, yeah.

561
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.559
Yeah, it was. It was the kids. They had saw it. Also.

562
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.519
One night I came home from work. We uh, I

563
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:15.480
worked for a huge grocery store chain up there in Georgia.

564
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.800
And I came home and the kids and the wife

565
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.679
are downstairs watching TV. I was I was wiped out.

566
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.280
I went upstairs and I laid down in dead. I

567
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.360
just you know, kind of just needed to relax for

568
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.400
a little while. And I felt the bed. After I

569
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:33.719
was there for a while, I felt the dead, like

570
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.760
like somebody pushing on the bed. And I'm thinking, oh, man, canting, people,

571
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.360
leave me alone. I just want to get a little rest,

572
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:46.599
you know, And it happened again. You know, it was

573
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:48.400
you know, a slight pause and and I felt this,

574
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.199
you know, shaken on the bed again, and I never

575
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.119
opened my eyes I just laid there and then that

576
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.719
was that. Thinking back on it, I was like, oh, man,

577
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.320
I wish I would have just opened my eyes. You know,

578
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.400
if I would have to opened my eyes, I might

579
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:10.000
have seen something, you know, because I saw these two figures.

580
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.000
I mean, it was it was really cool because when

581
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.920
I got up out of bed, it was like, oh

582
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.039
my god, I can't believe what I just saw. Man,

583
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.320
you know, come back, you know, please come back. You know.

584
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.599
Of course, nothing ever happened as far as actually seeing them,

585
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.320
but then I had the bed shaking. And then also

586
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.239
out in the front yard again it was a new home.

587
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:41.079
I was trying to get grass growing, and there was

588
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:47.719
a huge X, perfect X thing, probably hard to think back,

589
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:53.000
twenty thirty foot long X that died in the front yard.

590
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.639
And my neighbor across the street he came over and

591
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.119
he was like, Frank, what are you doing to your yard?

592
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:03.280
And I'm like, man, I don't know. I didn't do anything.

593
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.880
I'm trying to get grass growing, you know, And this

594
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.519
X came back two years in a row, the first

595
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:11.239
two years we were there, and I'm thinking, maybe, you know,

596
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.239
they buried something under the ground and it's close to

597
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:19.559
the surface. That's what's causing the ground to die, the

598
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:23.599
grass to die. I don't know. And now I'm thinking

599
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.000
back on I'm like, man, I should have Maybe I

600
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.360
should have dug where the X was at. Maybe there

601
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.239
was something down in the ground, you know. I don't know,

602
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.519
but I know it was a Confederate battle line because

603
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.199
there was a blackout on the road out in front

604
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:43.199
of the subdivision commemorating the the area. So and there

605
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.800
was this one guy he used to come around with

606
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.719
a metal detector and he'd scanned the trees, these big

607
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:53.159
old oak trees, you know, and and tell me that

608
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.159
he used to find bullety. Well he didn't actually like

609
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.199
dig them out, they were, you know, they were way

610
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.159
too far in there. But he said it was just

611
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.559
cool to scan the trees with his metal detector and

612
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:10.679
find these these old you know, Civil War you know,

613
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:15.719
uh bullets and in the in the trees. So it

614
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.559
was definitely an all competitive battle line. And uh yeah,

615
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:25.559
it had me going, man, I'll tell you that, I actually,

616
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.519
yeah it it it all had And that was in

617
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.159
a span of like just a couple of years, because

618
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.199
after we were there for about three or four years,

619
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:41.039
the kids quit see in this. In fact, what it

620
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:44.039
was was it would stand in the hallway. I just

621
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.519
talked with my son just recently about it because he

622
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:51.519
you know, I I was going to be talking to

623
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.880
you and I I wanted to refer back to this,

624
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.719
like wanting to find out what the heck you know

625
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.400
I saw. I loved things getting explained to me. So

626
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:07.239
I don't know I want closure on it, but h yeah, yeah,

627
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.159
it was something. It really was. It had me going

628
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:13.880
for a while.

629
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:21.159
So the Bigfoot, I'll start with this. Conversations like this.

630
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.840
Usually I have a lot of these conversations that usually

631
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:29.440
happen unrecorded, believe it or not. And it is wild

632
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:33.840
because so many people, like in the Bigfoot field, you

633
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.880
want to have some sort of closure, but it's like

634
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.800
one of those deals where like you just you can't

635
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.760
get the actual answer right, because it's one of those

636
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:48.199
last great mysteries. Now, if I'm looking at like what

637
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.599
you have provided to me so far, I'm trying to

638
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.440
think through it. There's some really interesting things that stand out,

639
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.320
and one of them is, you know, you've got the eyes.

640
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.000
But the other really interesting thing is that you have

641
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:10.039
a property where you've recently started to you know, try

642
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.280
to turn it into something else, and it's you know,

643
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.800
maybe trees are getting taken down or you're doing stuff,

644
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.960
and so the woods is maybe turning into something else. Right,

645
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.760
So there's that. But then the big deal is that

646
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.079
this area, as you already said, has a lot of

647
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:33.519
history to it, and like the Talladega National Forest is

648
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.639
one of the craziest bigfoot areas. I mean, there's if

649
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.960
you go further south in Talladega, you've got the Hollands Hunting,

650
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.320
the Hollands Hunter camp where I mean you had that

651
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.000
hunter that was found under his tree stand where his

652
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.079
like his arms were pulled out of his sockets. And

653
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.119
it's just it's a really intense one that's not near

654
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.039
your area, but it's further south in the same forest.

655
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.039
So if you're gonna ask me, like what do I

656
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.119
think it is or or how concerned do I need

657
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:18.360
to be? Unless unless you start to hear where other people,

658
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:20.440
like someone has a sighting in the area or someone

659
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.840
else has weird stuff happen. I might put it at

660
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:30.559
like a fifty percent and one thing you could do,

661
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.440
like if you were you're like, I really just don't

662
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:39.320
want anything around here, and just to make sure, like you,

663
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.840
a lot of people will put like game cams around

664
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.639
the corners of their house or like in the backyard,

665
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.960
you know, where you you have the like you saw

666
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:55.440
the eyes, because usually most people will think, hey, there's

667
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.519
something with the ir in these cameras and they don't

668
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.000
like it, and they just they just get out of there.

669
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:02.880
It's weird.

670
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:10.280
But that's that's pretty much what the community has has

671
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.639
been looking at so far when when it comes to

672
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:20.000
that with the game cameras. But man, because it's it's like,

673
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.400
I'm just kind of thinking freely out out loud here

674
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.519
because you didn't see any tracks and did you have

675
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:33.320
any trees where like they were broken weird or woven

676
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:39.199
weird or or or arched over anything really strange?

677
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.320
Like that didn't sound like.

678
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:46.760
Actually there's there's it's kind of like I just call

679
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.440
it the property line. It's it's it's not actually my property.

680
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.239
But because there's there's uh, there's a big open area

681
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.039
that I live on. Somebody bought some property off next

682
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.760
to me and they keep lot of they keep a

683
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:07.960
lot of like uh, construction equipment there. And then uh

684
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:16.599
uh so there was the longest longest this this particular line,

685
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.679
there was an old tree that had broke and uh

686
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.280
it's it's kind of like and it probably just fell

687
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.280
and it's it's landing that it landed this way, but

688
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.719
it was it was an old dead tree and it

689
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.360
broke somehow, and it happened just recently. My wife pointed

690
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.039
it out to me because she used to see these

691
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.199
woodpeckers that were in it. There was a couple of

692
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.320
uh pilated to lated whatever woodpeckers that would go over

693
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.480
there and you know, prepare this tree up and it

694
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.440
fell over and it's it's like sitting up. It fell

695
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.960
into the crooked two trees, so it almost looks like

696
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.800
a like a fence, like like somebody almost kind of

697
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.480
marked this this property line. You know. I looked at

698
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.000
it and I said, oh, yeah, look at that. You know,

699
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.360
the I did see a big foot and that it

700
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:10.920
picked it up and it's marking. It's telling me, you know,

701
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.519
don't go past this this tree. I just set here,

702
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:18.920
you know, And uh yeah, So that that's that's the

703
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.400
only thing that I saw there with with something like

704
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.119
that where you know, and as far as I say,

705
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.719
like I say, the ground, you know, yeah, you're you're

706
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.719
you're not going to make an imprint in this clay.

707
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.599
When it's when it's dry and it's hard, there's there's nothing.

708
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.239
And the grass is well, it's not grass, it's it's

709
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.360
just you know, stubs and weeds and stuff like that

710
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:48.039
cut real short, so there's no there wouldn't be anything there.

711
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.639
The bear prints that we had seen were down around

712
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.360
near the down around near the drainage when it was

713
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.599
when it was still wet, and then I had filled

714
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:03.280
some holes on my property and one of them happened

715
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.920
to step into the into the into the clay. I guess,

716
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.079
I don't guess it would have had to have been wet,

717
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.199
because I was out there walking the dogs and oh, man,

718
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.320
look at this a bear print, you know, and uh,

719
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:18.719
it was a big one too. It was it was

720
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.239
a pretty big bear print, so that, you know, that

721
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.079
could have been what I saw was this, you know,

722
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.320
very large. Uh. I guess it'd have to be a

723
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:28.280
black bear, right.

724
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.880
I would think so based on the area you're in,

725
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.079
it would probably be if you're if you're thinking a bear,

726
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:44.159
it'd probably be a black bear, is my guess. But yeah, man, yeah,

727
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:50.760
if I if i I'm and listeners are this is

728
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.920
is very it's a different show, which is it's a

729
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.360
different episode, which is a okay with me. I would

730
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:02.519
think there's a likelihood you may have a bear going

731
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.559
on in the back based on what you have presented

732
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.679
to me. Uh, if you're at the point though, because

733
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.920
sometimes it's like, well, I just don't know, and I

734
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.400
might want to take a little extra precaution, maybe throw

735
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.400
a game cam up there. The worst thing that happens

736
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:21.440
is you get a picture of a bear and then

737
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:22.119
you really.

738
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:26.519
Know, right, yeah, yeah, well I plan on doing that too.

739
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.639
I should have told everybody to get me some game cam,

740
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.440
you know, trail cams for the for Christmas, instead of

741
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.440
the instead of the you know, the night vision goggles.

742
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.400
But I want those because I like looking out over

743
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.559
the property and seeing what's out there at night, you know,

744
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.119
and uh yeah, if it's a bear, it's it's definitely

745
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.519
a big one. And the uh you know, I'm glad

746
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:55.599
I got my fence up and the dogs are around

747
00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:00.000
and stuff like that. But yeah, it's just like I said,

748
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.159
the way it wouldn't have it wouldn't have alarmed me

749
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:07.840
as much as it did. If the thing wouldn't have

750
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.320
stopped so many times, well twice and looked back at me,

751
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.000
you know, and and like I say, the size of

752
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.760
the eyes and the you know, the the spread on

753
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.000
the eyes. I just got a lot of things working

754
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.119
against me. I need to get us. I've always said

755
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.639
I needed to get a stronger flashlight. They've got some

756
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:36.400
of these flashlights out there, you know, they're whatever, super powerful. Yeah. Yeah,

757
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:42.280
And trail cams. I wanted to set up a deer

758
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.519
feeder or you know, put something out there, maybe a

759
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.760
salt lick, but probably a deer feeder and a trail

760
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.079
cam to see what comes around at night, because there's

761
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:56.480
a bunch of deer on the property too. And you know,

762
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.400
I've only I've only lived here for about ten months,

763
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:06.039
so everything is still in the development stage. Now.

764
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:11.039
Something that might be that might happen, and it happens

765
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:16.199
a lot once the episode gets out, is it could

766
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:21.400
be a thing where people watch this and then they're like, dude,

767
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.159
there's a ton of bigfoot stuff happening in Muscadine or

768
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.800
fruit Hurst or wherever, and that could be if that

769
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.320
does happen, that could be something to take into consideration.

770
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.519
But we really can only go off of the stuff

771
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.880
that we know so far, right, and and going off

772
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.639
of that, I would that's where I'm kind of leaning

773
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:49.599
is probably more a really big black bear. Yeah, that's

774
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:51.440
what I would do if I was in your situation, like,

775
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.280
I would lean probably more towards that and maybe throw.

776
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.599
Up a game cand Yeah. I've watched a lot of

777
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:05.639
trail cam stuff, game cameras of footage on YouTube, and

778
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.760
some of the stuff you get at night is just

779
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.400
so cool. The guy up the street for me, he's

780
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:12.840
got one, and he was telling me that he got

781
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.960
this big bobcat on his you know. And now that

782
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.079
I since I know that there's a bear in the area,

783
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.119
I'm thinking, yeah, I'd definitely like to get one that

784
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.519
and all the deer and you know, possible bobcat. Who

785
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:29.599
knows what else you get?

786
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.440
M h, Yeah, that's really mean.

787
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.639
You know, one thing I've always wondered is why they

788
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:41.320
haven't gotten better pictures of if you know, there was

789
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:43.760
a big foot in the area, and it was to

790
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.320
go buy a trail cam, you know, because I see

791
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.280
perfectly crystal clear pictures of bear and of beer and

792
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.599
you know everything. You know, I saw this one guy

793
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.800
he got some really awesome stuff on a Florida panthers,

794
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.280
you know, and they're pretty they're they're pretty elusive. I

795
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.480
mean there's game wardens that have been working in the

796
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:09.559
other plades for you know, twenty thirty years and they've

797
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.639
never even seen a Florida panther and this guy had

798
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.440
some on his trail camp. You know what, why do

799
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.159
you think that is? Why? It is? Because I've heard

800
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:24.119
something about that bigfoot can can like hear maybe because

801
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.920
I know bears will walk up and buy trail cams,

802
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.559
so there's there's there's something to them. What.

803
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.960
Yeah, so what I've what I've so the bear bearer

804
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.760
attracted to it, from what I've heard, because of the

805
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.800
lithium batteries usually and that's why they're going to go

806
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.159
after the game cams. That's just what I've heard. A

807
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.960
lot of people in the community will think that, you know,

808
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:49.079
there's something to do.

809
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.119
With the ir.

810
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.280
Perhaps the bigfoot can see it, and that's why we're

811
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.760
not getting cameras or we're not getting photos of it.

812
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.760
The other thing that is always brought up is that, yeah,

813
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.679
there are really good photos that people have up out there,

814
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.360
but they are not sharing them because either they're afraid

815
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.480
of what will be the fallout, you know, if they're

816
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.840
the person that has a really good photo.

817
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:13.760
I mean I've talked to.

818
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.159
There's a few people that I've talked to where they're like, yeah,

819
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.199
we saw a photo at a conference and the guy

820
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.400
was like, I can't put it out there because it's

821
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.280
it's gonna ruin everything for me and my property. So

822
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.559
if you take that as being truthful, yeah, there could

823
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.039
be some good photos out there, just they haven't really

824
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.639
been shared to the public. But yeah, for game camera stuff,

825
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:46.039
pretty much going with the it may be able to

826
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.000
see the ir and that's why we're not getting.

827
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.760
A lot of photos. But at the end of the day,

828
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:52.559
it's a tricky thing.

829
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.400
A lot of it is hypotheticals, you know, because we

830
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.119
haven't been able to actually study a specimen yet and

831
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.119
see how it does react to different things like I

832
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.800
are so yeah, but or they're just.

833
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.400
More intelligent than you really give them credit for.

834
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.920
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, it's it's.

835
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:17.000
I've heard a lot of speculation on them, you know, like, uh, oh,

836
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:23.320
well they're you know, Gigantapithecus or an offspring of giganti Pithecus,

837
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.679
and with some of the other stuff.

838
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.119
There's there's all sorts of things.

839
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:35.519
Yeah, yeah, you know, and I mean I believe that

840
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:41.079
there there's just so much out there. I mean I've

841
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.800
I've watched a ton of stuff on on on the

842
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:48.199
on the on YouTube about documentaries and everything, you know,

843
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.079
stuff from like Jeff Meldrum and I know you you've

844
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.920
you've heard of him. Uh, And I mean some of

845
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.480
the footprints that he's got, like the crippled footprint. You

846
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:06.000
know how anyone can fake that? Some tracks of some

847
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.320
footprints have dermal ridges on them. I mean, there's just

848
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.280
some stuff that can't be faked.

849
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.639
Oh man, if you ever get a chance to see

850
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.800
one of those casts in person that have dermal ridges.

851
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:19.639
I have one of those from the mount Hood area

852
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:21.920
and it will just blow your mind.

853
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.719
Dude is.

854
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.880
Oh yeah, it's awesome.

855
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.599
Have you ever seen the pictures of the Mayaca skunk Gate.

856
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.360
Yeah, the one that looks like inn Irngu Tan sort of.

857
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.079
Yeah, yeah, it kind of looks like in irang.

858
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:40.920
It's weird, right, It's really weird.

859
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.960
Yeah, it sure is? It? Sure is? What what? Because

860
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.559
when I had looked at the pictures, I I looked

861
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.400
all over the internet. I googled a bunch of different stuff,

862
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.280
and I finally found something where they were using the

863
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.440
picture and they were trying to figure out what it was.

864
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:06.639
And they had somebody that said it was some kind

865
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:12.360
of primatologists from maybe the Miami Zoo or somewhere down

866
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:18.000
there in South Florida, and they were saying that they

867
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.159
thought it was a hoax picture because it definitely wasn't

868
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:25.320
an orangu thing and it looks close closely to one,

869
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:29.079
you know, but they were claiming that it wasn't and

870
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:32.519
that picture just doesn't well, that's one of the you know,

871
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.559
talking about getting good pictures. That's that's where someone went

872
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.039
out on their back porch and actually just took a

873
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.239
picture of it. I think that wasn't from an actual

874
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:42.960
trail camp. That was a regular photo. And they had

875
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.400
two of them, and I mean the teeth, you know,

876
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.880
the eye shine that that it wasn't a cost and

877
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.480
it was a definite animal. Sometime, I just you know,

878
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.559
found that thing to be really really really interesting. Yeah.

879
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.480
I think if I remember this the story right, it's

880
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:06.119
from way back in two thousand and I believe it's

881
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:10.679
an anonymous woman sent the two pictures. This Sarasota County

882
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:17.480
Sheriff's Department. Yeah, so exactly, it's weird. I mean if

883
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.719
it was out today, I would be like, it'd be

884
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.039
easy because we just would be like, oh, like that's Ai.

885
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.199
That it's because AI is so good.

886
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.679
But like the fact that it's well, it's twenty six

887
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.960
years old now, I mean that was a different timeframe

888
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:38.719
when it comes, you know, for graphics and things.

889
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:40.159
And I don't know.

890
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.400
I wish that we knew the actual person that turned

891
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.039
it in. That would be really cool. But the area,

892
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:48.760
I mean, the Mayaka River area. I've taken so many

893
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:51.920
reports from that area. I mean it is extremely active area.

894
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:59.519
So yeah, it's a very very interesting photo. People need

895
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:01.480
to check it out as they've never looked at. Just

896
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.239
look up my act a skunkcape photo. It's pretty cool.

897
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.320
But yeah, it was that was That was a heck

898
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:11.880
of a photo there, that one there, and uh, there

899
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:14.079
was another one that I had seen where it was

900
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:21.519
it was a white skunky it no, well I shouldn't

901
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.079
call it a skunk. A big foot from up north

902
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.360
somewhere and a guy was out on his property. It

903
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.639
was at night because he kept saying that he was

904
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.119
hearing something and he was out looking with he had

905
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.559
a camera and a light, and he caught a picture.

906
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.519
He got a quick glimpse of uh, got a quick

907
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.760
glimpse of something. And I mean the face on it, man,

908
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:48.719
that that was. That was something. It looked at him.

909
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.199
He caught it in the in the in his in

910
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.119
his flashlight, and it turned around real quick and just

911
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.679
darted off into the woods. But the face on it,

912
00:55:57.800 --> 00:55:59.800
it was, you know, and I don't know how old

913
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.199
it is, you know, if it was AI or anything

914
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.679
like that. But that was the only other picture that

915
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.079
I had seen that was like, Wow, what was that?

916
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.440
I think like the I think I might know the

917
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:14.079
one you're talking about, but yeah, if you could, if

918
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.440
you could email me a link to that, just to

919
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:18.719
just to double check. I'm pretty sure I know which

920
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:20.559
one it is, but I'm not one hundred percent sure

921
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:21.079
on that one.

922
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.599
But it was. It was. It was white. It was

923
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:30.599
real white. It had Yeah, it was. It was really

924
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.360
really really good, really good picture, you know. But the

925
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.599
footprints I wish I wish, man, I'm telling you, I

926
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:40.920
wish that ground back there wouldn't have been dried up.

927
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:43.639
I was happy to see it dried up because it

928
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.360
was terrible to try and mow around it. But whatever

929
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.599
it was was just it was just standing down there.

930
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.079
That's you know, that's that's the whole thing. When I

931
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.679
when I turned my back porch light on and that

932
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.840
you know, that bug light was able to illuminate its

933
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:01.840
thighs from well, I'm just gonna say, from way over

934
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:06.800
one hundred feet away, and so it had to have

935
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.760
been something really big. And then when it turned and

936
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.440
I could see how far the eyes were, it was

937
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.760
definitely some really really big And you know, to know

938
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:19.880
that there's a black bed out there that big, it's

939
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.159
kind of kind of cool to kind of unsettling a

940
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:26.679
little bit. I don't go tucking around at night out

941
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:27.480
there too much.

942
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.119
So I would say, I mean, if I was there,

943
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.760
I'd I'd definitely be aware and i'd probably try to

944
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.679
get a picture of it. But it's definitely a thing where,

945
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.039
you know, I don't think we know one hundred percent

946
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.360
either way, right, And I mean I would say if

947
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:44.440
you do experience other stuff out there, I would definitely

948
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:45.719
like to hear about it.

949
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:48.400
It can be very interesting.

950
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:57.880
Oh yeah, well, I've I've always liked kind of well,

951
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.039
like back in the where I moved up here. I

952
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.519
lived in North Florida, and uh, there was woods all

953
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.400
around us there. We've always lived more rural areas. And

954
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.480
uh I always used to put like if we had

955
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:17.679
old food, the turkey carcass from Thanksgiving, any any old

956
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:20.920
food or junk like that, if I went and went

957
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.760
fishing and brought the fish home and cleaned the fish,

958
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:26.280
I'd take all the heads and guts and everything, and

959
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:29.480
I'd take it out behind my house and put it

960
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.559
out there. And and uh never did get a trail cam.

961
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.079
I should have gotten a trail cam, and uh, just

962
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.280
to see what was out there eating the stuff at night,

963
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.159
because the next day everything would just be gone, you know.

964
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.880
I mean there was tons of coyotes. And one of

965
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.480
the neighbors said that they saw a big giant cat

966
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.599
of some sort. And uh, I had a buddy that

967
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.039
had he had a trail cam on his property, and

968
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:56.719
he said he had gotten pictures of some uh some

969
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.119
kind of big cat out on their property. And know,

970
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.000
all that stuff is really cool. So I was thinking

971
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:06.480
of getting like maybe a couple of bags of apples

972
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.119
and trail cam, you know, and trying to set up

973
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:14.480
something to debate things in, because I think it's easier

974
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.280
to bring things into you than to have you go

975
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.199
trying to look for it. If it's possible to.

976
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:25.559
Do, yeah, i'd agree with that. I would agree with that. Yeah, absolutely, And.

977
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:31.840
Possibly, you know, possibly get some pictures of the big

978
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:37.760
bear on my property, because that's that's you know. After

979
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.000
I was over my even kind of freaked out about

980
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.639
what I saw, I was like, yeah, you know, it

981
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:50.199
probably is a bear. You know, it probably is, but

982
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:53.559
I man, I gotta get I gotta get a camera

983
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:54.679
out on my property.

984
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.280
Absolutely, I would say, I'd say it'd be a good idea.

985
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:03.880
We'll frank, it's a good conversation. We talked about a

986
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.280
lot of stuff that really doesn't come up on the show,

987
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:08.920
and I think I think that's a good thing. But

988
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.039
as I said before, you know, feel free to reach

989
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.840
out if you notice anything else weird happening, or if

990
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.800
you get a picture of a bear or anything else.

991
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.440
I'd love to see it. But I just hey, thank

992
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:23.559
you so much for coming on the show today and

993
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.559
for sharing what you've experienced so far in your property.

994
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.840
Oh yeah, hey, thanks for talking to me. Man. I

995
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.280
feel like you know things are more conclusive in my head.

996
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:40.400
I feel better about it. You know. I really like that.

997
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:43.440
Like I say, I like the things. I like to

998
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.280
have explanations. I like things to be explained away, and

999
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:50.679
I feel like I have that done. So thanks for

1000
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:51.199
your time.

1001
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:55.719
Man, you got it, Jem, Thank you, Frank, and it's

1002
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:57.840
good chatting with you. And we'll be in touch.

1003
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:02.480
Man, all right, thanks a lot. Man. You have a

1004
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:03.239
good day you.

1005
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:04.559
Too, Man, have a good one.

1006
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:05.679
All right.

1007
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.280
All right, but have you ever heard all the accounts

1008
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:13.760
of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man,

1009
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.280
I would love to get out in those woods and

1010
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.320
experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1011
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.000
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1012
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.920
pretty cool. Sasquatch summery Fest is coming up July tenth

1013
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:33.159
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1014
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:37.840
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1015
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.519
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1016
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:46.079
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1017
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:52.280
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1018
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.400
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that

1019
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.079
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods.

1020
01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:57.880
Now check this out.

1021
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:03.840
You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching

1022
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:08.119
for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go

1023
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:12.400
to the festival, but you can also sign up for

1024
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:19.360
a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge

1025
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:24.440
with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot.

1026
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:28.519
There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes,

1027
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:32.320
this will also be filmed for the next chapter in

1028
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.800
his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is

1029
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.400
a once in a lifetime deal. It's just it's going

1030
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:43.239
to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

1031
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:47.599
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

1032
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:53.119
can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

1033
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:55.719
in order to get a two day pass for the

1034
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.880
price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

1035
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:04.920
for giving me that code so that you guys can

1036
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:11.519
can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

1037
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.159
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

1038
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:18.639
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

1039
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:20.960
to talk to so many people last year and the

1040
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:25.199
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

1041
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.000
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

1042
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:31.599
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1043
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.920
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1044
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.679
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1045
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:41.599
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1046
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:44.840
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1047
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.840
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1048
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:51.159
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1049
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.840
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

1050
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:58.039
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1051
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.400
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1052
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:04.760
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1053
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.119
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1054
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.320
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1055
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.840
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1056
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:19.679
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1057
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.039
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1058
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:26.079
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1059
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.599
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith.

1060
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.400
Or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

1061
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.840
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1062
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:41.559
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1063
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.760
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1064
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.800
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1065
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:54.599
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1066
01:04:56.199 --> 01:05:00.119
We've got the mic see you in the woods. Thank

1067
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.880
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1068
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.400
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1069
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:08.519
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1070
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.440
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

1071
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1078
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.280
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1079
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:38.280
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1080
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.760
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1081
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:44.639
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1087
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:04.519
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1088
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.960
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1089
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:10.239
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

1090
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:11.400
And see you in the woods.