Swampdogg & the Sasquatch

0:11 We kind of spoiled our tires that we always got stuck in there, and we're panicking and I'm going out the window through my friend. He was parked in front of me. I mean even going out the trail, like in front of me. I said, yo, keet out of the way. So I backed up and I went on the grass. I went around him, and as soon as I did that, he started moving and we just got out of there, and honestly, we never went back there again.

0:57 Hight there. You're listening to the Big Fast Society podcast. I'm Jeremiah Iron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced Sasquatch in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode with a friend. Does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. Great news. I did get back from my Bigfoot expedition with Tate Horonymous and friends without an issue. You'll hear more about that much later, but I want to do a special thank you to some more people that helped support that expedition. Special thank you to Scott Dee for buying two coffees. He says, have fun going squatching. Appreciate that, buddy, and also a special thank you to someone for buying five coffees. Good luck, and I hope you come back with some great stories. I will, I mean I did. You're just not going to hear him yet because my buddy Tate is going to come out with another IOWA episode, so I'm going to wait until then. Make sure you're subscribed to Taste channel. It's in the show notes.

1:59 If you'd like to here Bigfoot Society episodes early in ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes and Bigfoot Society. I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show, all right, big Forciety, We've got the privilege of talking to a gentleman tonight. His name is swamp Dog, and he approached me letting me know that he's got some really interesting things to share that have happened over the years, and so I'm just gonna say, how's it going, swamp Dog? Everything's going okay. Sorry, how you doing. I'm doing good, having a great labor day weekend and just kind of starting to relax. But I am excited to finally talk to you. I know, we've been going back and forth for a few days, and it's exciting to get this to work out finally. So where are things? How are things going where you're at swamp Dog? The weather's nice? You mean how Bilod, New Jersey.

3:00 I live in south southern New Jersey area. I'm about an out and a half hour, forty minutes away from the Delaware Memorial Bridge and a half hour away from the Philadelphia Bridge, I mean the walt woman. So I'm I'm out. I'm outside of un do mean outside of the center city. My area is more of of like farmland and we have woods. I'm only I'm only I say, about twenty minutes away from Wharton State Bars out there by Hammonton Township and all that. And yeah, I mean I got forests and farmland all the way around me. So but uh, it's nice, hire, I mean, you know, but I am moving to eastern Tennessee in a couple of months, so I've believe in here city and so that's just that's the deal of this area here. And I'm just curious real quick how close are you to the Pine barrens? Uh? Wharton State Forest is the Pine Bearns? Matter of fact? I uh, do you mean? I'm in the jeeps and I'm in the four by fouring and that's where we go.

4:25 There's a lot of trails out there that we go. We do a lot of overland camping. I bow hunt out there. Uh do you mean? Do you mean I fish out there? It's a there's a lot of a lot of a lot of acres, a lot of acres. I forget how much it is, but it's over a thousand acres out there. I think it's like I don't know, eight thousand acres that were saying, I believe I don't know something like that. But there's other woods too, you know. I mean there's a place called U that's a winslow New Jersey. It's called Winslowe State Hours. If you if you google, you'll see it. You mean, that's a big place out there too. You know, we hang out in the woods out there too, so but yeah, but we have woods all all there around me, you know what I mean?

5:15 For the pine barons, I know that real good. Oh, I'm extremely interested to hear what you have to share. I know a little bit about the Pine Barrens. I read some books about it growing up, and there's some weird stuff that happens in us. Yere's a lot of weird stuff going on in Pine Barons. I mean, it's like I said, I've been going through there. I'm fifty two, and I've been going through there since I was like I'm seventeen, eighteen years old. So you know, I'll tell you so because a lot of weird stub goes on in there. It's a real nice place, you know during the day, but when the sun goes down, it's a real spooky area. And it doesn't matter where you go, it is spooky. I mean, you know, I mean, I'm not thought they wanted to says it. I mean a lot of my friends say it to you know. So when we build a campfire, you know, we kind of build a big one, you know what I mean.

6:15 Yeah, yeah, But there's a lot of stories coming out there, you know what I mean. I mean, Jimmy, they say, like me, they got a dream, the people have seen the sasquatch out there, and gar me, they talk about the Jersey Devil. But I really, I really don't believe in the Jersey Devil. But you mean, I heard a lot of stories and I heard a lot of people talking about that, you mean, their encounters with that. But I think I don't know as far as doing me big book goes. I can see it in that area because if I wanted to, and let's say I wanted to get away from everybody and hide, I'd be one place I can hide and nobody will ever find me. So I mean, that's how I think it is out there. So you know, and then in Jersey, you know what I mean, a lot of people say, oh, there's no rattlesnakes in Jersey.

7:17 There's rattlesnakes, and there's plenty of them out there, because like I said, you know what I mean, I walk through there. I do my full by fouring out there, you know, I mean, I look for doing different places to hunt, me for the fall hunting and all that. And you can get as back there, you know what I mean. I can see how you probably got the name swamp dog. Yes, I was always in the swamp. I was always in the swamp with my four by four is you know what I mean, And everybody just called me swamp dog. So yeah, that's how I got that. I'm loving it.

7:58 Well, let's what kind of things have you run into? Because I'm guessing if you're going out there, swamp dog, you're running into some stuff. Yeah, out there, I never had a I've never seen anything, but I heard things like as far as do I mean, I mean, like France snapping or some weird noises like howls and stuff. I did hear that out there. But do you mean I've never seen nothing out there, but you mean I did hear stuff like that. And you know, I've never heard nothing like wood knock or nothing like that, just like howls and but do mean they got coyotees out there and stuff. But it wasn't no coyote, you know what I mean. It was a look like the sounds that I used to hear out there. You had to have some real big lungs, you know what I mean. And it wasn't oko. So you know, that kind of raised the hair on my neck and my arms a little bit. But you're only here for a few minutes, or you might hear for ten minutes and then you don't hear nothing no more. But I always stay close to the truck, do you know what I mean? And I

9:30 always make sure the keys were indignition because I didn't want to if I ever counted something out that a way, I didn't want to be looking for my keys. I always had the keys indignition. So but yeah, but yeah, that area out there, it's do you mean there's a lot of a lot of people talking. I remember I always started bow hunting. U let me see how long ago was. I don't know, maybe like it's ten, I don't know about ten fifteen years ago. And I never hunted when I was a kid or nothing. I got into it because when I married my wife, her family they all bow hunted, and you mean they all they all used doing shotguns for hunting and all that stuff, and I always wanted to do it, but I never did. But then when I married my wife, I got into it because my brother in law and my father in law and everybody. And then I got into about fifteen years ago, you know what I mean. So, so I used to hunt out there.

10:41 And I have a friend of mine. I don't want to mention his store because he don't even know that that I'm talking to you right now, but anyway, he owns a gun shop. And it's a gun shop slash hunting shop, you know what I mean, Like you mean they do they do work on gun They sell guns and bows and everything and all kind of hunting equipment and that mean it's a really nice little place. But but when I first got into hunting and I got my first bow, do mean the old timers that you mean used to sit out our phone of the story, like on the ports and tell stories and stuff. I used to say that, you know, I want to I want to stalk a deer. You mean, I want to be up in a tree stand or I don't want to be like give me behind a blind. I want to actually hike and I want to be able to stalk a deer and all that stuff. And I said, and then camp out there, you know, I mean like maybe a couple of days or a week, you know what I mean, just bowl hunt, you know what I mean. And they used to tell me, like like these guys were like in the seventies and eighties, and they used to tell me when I go out there, you know what I mean, to be careful because there's things out there. And I'm like, oh, you're talking about like the Jersey Devil. He said, no, there's there's just things out there and you have to be careful and you got

12:13 to know your surroundings, you know what I mean. They were trying to get me, like one of them talks like you know and all that stuff. I'm like, okay, so you know, and I didn't when they were talking about like I said, because you mean, I've been going in there since I was eighteen years old, you know what I mean? And uh, I kind of knew what they were saying, but I never but you really got into it, you know, with them, because at that time, I really didn't want to talk about what I hear things or you don't know whatever, you know what I'm trying to say. I wasn't you know. I didn't want people to think I was crazy, you know.

12:54 But they were trying to tell me too. But I guess they felt the same way. They didn't want to get into it or just say I was just be careful out there because there's things out there, you know. Sure, sure, but you didn't press the issue to find out exactly what they were saying. You want to be cool, you know, yeah, right right? You know, And I mean I didn't want you know, at the time, I was like, you know, I didn't want people to think I was crazy or not or have I mentioned it I've seen stuff, or have I her stuff. I don't want to think I was crazy, you know, because around here and you know what, I noticed that too. It don't matter where you go, like in this country, if you try to bring something up to a hunter, they will always deny it and they will always call you crazy a lot of times, you know what I mean, Like you know, it seems like they don't want to hear about it or or give mean, they don't want to talk about it, you know what I'm saying. Like you know, I used to get that a lot, you know what I'm saying, like you know, or or we're talking around the campfire, you know what I mean. And let's say somebody had mentioned something big foot. Nobody wants to talk about it. That's a myth, uh, you know, and then you will change the subject.

14:18 So I mean, I noticed that with hunters, so you know, absolutely it's it's hard to get hunters to talk. And usually they are not with their buddies when they finally talk, because you know, they want to keep up that appearance and not be looked at as crazy or something. But yeah, yeah, well you mean I'm the same way. I mean as I got told you. You know, I don't want to talk about it or say anything about it, you know what I mean, because I don't want people to think I was crazy, you know what I mean? So but yeah, do you mean I can understand it, you know what I mean? But yeah, they're mean Jersey is a small state. As you were connected to Pennsylvania, New York, upstate New York. Uh, we're connected to Delaware. You know it's I got Delaware, I got the different Pennsylvania, and then you know I got like New York. So so we're connected going to those three states, you know what I'm saying. And you know it's it's like, you know, we had signs, I mean about like twenty years ago. I mean they had signs. Different people have seen the you know, cougars out of here. We'll be back with more bigfoot society after these words from our sponsors. And it's kind of weird because you know, I've never seen one, but I mean I heard people talk about it.

15:50 They'll be like a new deer stand and like you know, fifty yards away. I mean they'll see they'll see like a cat well back well by, you know what I mean. And you know I have never seen one, but I mean I heard people talk about it, you know. So you know, it's so assuming. It's a lot here in Jersey that people will say, oh, that's New Jersey. Everybody thinks it's like New York City, but it's not because I don't hear where I live. It's like I say, it's all woods and farms, you know what I mean, And it's you. I mean this A lot goes on down here, you know that. You know, people doesn't know about you know, so sounds like a lot of hidden stuff. Has there ever been a time when you were out in the woods and you know, stuff started happening. You're like, I don't know if I really want to be around here right now.

16:48 There have been times where I'll be I'll be walking through a trail or I'll be walking through a game trail and my wife is with me, and you know, I mean we're just going for like a nature walk, you know, and I'll have a bad bad do me, like, give me like a feeling, give me bad feelings, and it's just I know there's something there. I look around, I don't see nothing, I don't hear nothing.

17:30 But did you mean I feel something? You know what I mean? And I just like, let's just go back to the truck, you know. And and yes, she'd be like, wow, what happens. I'll just go back to the truck. And I don't feel right, you know. So but you know that happens sometimes to me, you know. So, yeah, I mean, and the reason why I feel that sometimes and you know, I don't know it's good my sightings and I know they're here, but I don't know if and I get like spooked because my because my fightings in the past, So you know what I mean. So you know it's kind of weird, you know. I mean, I mean, you know, it's just I mean, I just feel things, you know what I mean. I just feel it, and it feels like somebody's watching you, or it seems like somebody's watching every move you make, and it's like, you know, I just like, let's go back to the truck.

18:40 Oh, I get it. It's like you're you're opened up to realizing what's really going on around you. It sounds like you've had a few sightings in the past, and and those must have affected you in some way. I'm curious what kind of things did you experience. Okay, back in nineteen eighty nine, I was a senior in high school. It was it was in October, and I had a girlfriend, and I was with my friend of mine, my best friend at the time, and he was with his girlfriend.

19:25 So at the time, I had a Poniac what was that, the Fierro. You remember the Poniac Fierros, Those little cars kind of looked like Corvette's two theaters. Oh yeah, okay, I had one of them, and he had a Camaro. So up the road from me. Amount of fact, it's about a mile as about a mile away from where I'm not right now talking to you. It was it was an old abandoned airport that you mean they used to have the crop planes, you know, I mean those those little planes that's fraid the farms and stuff, you mean, the fields, And they had a garage over there where they used to work on these crop planes. And I mean they used to have like, I don't like three or four of them over there park. But they had a little dirt trail on the other side of the airport, and this was almost around a corner from the industrial park. But I mean they had a couple of warehouses back there. And I don't know whether you know how the the ground

20:55 is over here, but when you go out in the woods, it's like a they call it. They call it sugar sand. And we should have known better, because you know, we don't. At the time. We didn't have no four by four's, no trucks or nothing. And if you remember the Faeriro, it was only maybe two or three inches off the ground, you know what I mean. This as a set, you know, And I guess the Camaro was the same way. But we were dumb, and we took the girls out there to the airport, you know what I mean, and we're doing what teenagers do, you know, listening to music, but then you mean making out stuff and all that stuff, you know, And so we went down this trail, almost got stuck going in, but we made it to the grass spot and we were all right. So we parked and we were hanging out and all that stuff and talking and all that stuff, and we were there, i'll say about twenty minutes and no more than a half hour, and we were hanging outside the cars. My girlfriend at the time, she was leaning on my door and we were like,

22:29 how getting kissing all that stuff. And my friend of mine who was parked like catty corner and he was doing the same thing. And I think we were listening to Moli Crew or something, you know, back in the day, back in the day. But anyway, it was a full moon that day, and I remember this like it was like yesterday. Something caught my eye and I looked up and at the airport, they had like a little hill that went up I'm making like six feet high, you know what I'm saying, Like you mean, And I looked and I see something moving and I'm like, oh, well, what I'm saying to myself, what is that? You know what I mean? Because and you mean, I would say that just like dumb thought. Again, you mean, at first I thought it was a person and it was standing there and I could see it because of the move was bright. It was about I don't know, maybe fifty to eighty yards away from me, you know what I'm trying to say. And I'm looking at it, and then I started walking towards the

24:03 left and then was walking towards the right. Like going back and forth, back and forth, and I'm thinking myself, what this guy doing? This guy, this guy on drugs or you know what I mean, as you are a drunk, or what is he? I mean, you know, because it was like a game warden or something, I'm pretty sure they would be coming straight to us, you know. But this thing was walking right to the left, right to the left. And I did it like four or five times, and then I said, my friend, I said, yo, I said, what is that. That's a guy over there walking back and forth. Then and he comes walking towards me, and he said, I don't know what he said. Whatever it is this it looks like a big dude, you know, I mean, this is how he used to talking. And I said, yeah, he's big because I'm six two and I think i'm big. When I saw that thing, I said, that's big. You know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, And we kept looking at it, and I says, yo, I don't feel right. Let's get out of here. So when we were getting ready to open the doors to get in the vehicles to all right about forty yards

25:37 away to all right now, I'm looking straight at this thing and towards my right. I heard a tree branch break, and when we heard that, everybody jumped on the cars and I jumped in the cars and we just started the cars up and we took all and we have remember the circus saying that, Like I mean I was telling you about. Yeah, well we kind of spot our tires that we always got stuck in there, and we're panicking, and I'm going out the window to my friend. He was parked in front of me, I mean, even going out the trail, like in front of me. I said, yo, keet out of the way.

26:22 So I backed up and I went on the grass. I went around him, and as soon as I did that, he started moving and we just got out of there, and honestly, we never went back there again. So, like I was telling you, one time, I was talking to carry Arnold and he was telling me, well, that sounded like that guy was trying to get her attention. So there was one on the right about forty yards away that was coming towards us, and I don't know whether they wanted to jump us or what, you know what I mean, but this guy wanted our attention. So so you know, Carrie was telling me that most likely it was trying to get our attention, knowing that they had another one of these creatures on the right of us that was coming towards us, you know what I'm saying. But then when we heard the tree branch, let you break, and it snapped, like it wasn't a little give me a twig or something, it was a big you mean, like I don't know, it sounded like a shotgun. That's how a lot of was.

27:49 Yeah, I mean, I mean this thing went cratch, I mean boom, And I'm like, that's when we jumped in a car that we took off, you know, and we never back there again, and you know, we like you actually, you know, we just so then what happened was we dropped the girls off at the house and we met up at a diner and and I was like, yo, dude, what was that? And he said, I don't know, but he said, whatever that thing was, that thing was big. Because I'm six two, like I said, and my friend he's about six one. I don't know, maybe you're six two two, But he says that thing was big. And I said, yeah, that thing was huge. But the trees, the branch that snapped, that sounded like a gunshot. I mean, let me just have a tongue. It's not like a rifle or something. You know. I just went boom, like you know, I'm like, what the heck?

28:52 And we, like I said, we jumped in our cars and we took off like we looked at wild rabbits learning around. That's you know what I'm saying. It sounds funny now to me, but you mean, like at the time, it wasn't funny because, like I mean, we're trying to get in their cars fast, you know what I mean. It's like, you know, but that was my first encounter, and I had never said nothing to nobody. My friend of mine, me and him, we never talked about it ever again, and we just never went back there, you know what I'm saying. But the funny part is about this area here where I got my first sighting. When I met my wife that I'm married to now, her father used to live in Violin, and he moved the Gloucester City, New Jersey, but when he was a kid, he was a teenager, he lives in Violin. So I I never told my wife's the story until after my fallow told me his story and We're sitting arm around the table having coffee in bagels, and my wife told my follow out, well, you know, we were a boyfriend and girlfriend at the time, but you know what I mean. But you mean I went over to meet the

30:23 parents, you know. So he's like, well, She's like, dad, I'll tell you about the thing you saw when you were a teenager out there. We'll be back with more big Foot society after these words from our sponsors. And like, I'm like, what do you talk to me? I forgot all about my first encounter. So he was saying, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. And and so my wife was like, ahead, I tell him, tell him what the story. So he said, when he was fourteen years old. Now he was sixty seven at the time, I believe when he was telling me that this is the story.

31:18 But he said, when he was fourteen years old, him and his friends used to camp at that airport where I'm telling you about. But like at that time, when he was a kid, it wasn't an airport, you It was just all fifty olds and goes all the way around. So he was telling me that the Jimmy they were pitching their tent and it's like eight nine o'clock at night. They made a little camp fire because they were gonna do you mean that they were cooking hamburgers or something or or hot dogs.

31:59 And my father in law at the time, he looked up on the same exact hill that I was telling you about where I got my first encounter, and he saw this thing walking and watching them, walking and watching them. And when he was telling me this story, every hair on my body just went up, and I was like, I don't know that, Like, it's scared the hell out of me, because I knew what he was talking about, because they saw what I saw. But he was fourteen years old at the time, and he said and when he was telling me that, he was sixty seven, so you know. So then I told him, but I what had happened to me and what I've seen and what my friends seen, and he was like, yeah, there's stuff out there, and you know, and uh, but he said, it walked away from them, But but I hung around for about three or four minutes, he said, and I walked away. But he said it was walking along this hill, like on top of the hill, and and it was watching them,

33:30 and then it walked away. And he said he never saw it again ever. And then after that, a couple of weeks later, I guess they had moved to Gloucester City, him and his mom and dad or whoever. So, but yeah, that's so, I see that's two encounters in the same same exact area. That's that's incredible. So he has a part. He has his encounter in the late thirties. You have yours in the late eighties. Yep. I'm guessing if if my math is correct, he would have his would have been in the late thirties, I think, because you said there was about fifty years all that's wild and so I brew in my mind, I was shocked. I never I went to meet them, and I never thought that I would ever hear the story and at all.

34:22 Booke, it all came back to me, so you know what I mean. I was like, yeah, boom, I said, oh man, So you know so that's when like after I told him my encounter, and he just looked at me and he's like, yeah, there's things out there. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I said, I guess. So you know that we didn't talk about it no more. We talk about all the things. I totally get it, so a few, a few questions for you about that, because that was just a fascinating story. You know, the mental picture of like you guys hanging out in the late eighties at this aband An airport, listening to the Motley Crew. There's probably like kickstart in my heart or something, and then all of a sudden, you're just burning rubber or whatever, trying to get away from these big fat which they were trying to sneak up on you, I'm pretty sure on the one side of the car. And it was almost real bad for you guys.

35:17 Yeah, if we would have stayed there, it would have been real bad. I believe that because I'm gonna tell you about this thing that was on the hill. It was all going right to the left, right to the left, and he wanted us to keep our eye on him. And I'm telling you about forty yards away to all right, I heard that brand snap and it wasn't like a big snap, you know what I mean. So I know, with a big branch. And when that happened, we hauled as we hit, you know what I mean. It's like we were trying to get out of there, you know what I'm saying. I mean you know, oh yeah, it's like there's something on the hill. And there was definitely something on the hill. Did you get a good luck at the creature? Do you remember any details or was it it kind of too far away to see the details. The one on the right that was forty yards away me about forty yards away, well, we never seen that. All we did was hear that one, the one on the hill. That thing was big. It's like I'm telling you, I'm six two. He was about six one six two and up on the hill he was tall. I'm guessing he was between seven I had to eight be tall. That's why I'm guessing, gotcha. He was like fifty to eighty yards away, and he was big and he was wide because when we were first looking at him,

36:51 we were thinking, like, this guy was wide, not just tall, but his shoulders, like we could see the silhouette, you know what I'm saying. But he was wide at the top, and we know he was tall. I was, I'm guessing because to me, I'm always trying to picture that in my mind. And I know he was about seven a half eight p tall, that's I know. And he was big, and he's like, you know, I keep thinking about it and back in the past, and like even up to a year after that happened, I was always thinking about it. And I'm saying I'm myself that thing was big. That thing was huge. If me and my friend, if we had to defend ourself against this one big thing, it will never happen. It would have never happened. We would have been toasted. I know that for effect to send with a powdering to us, we will probably have a better chance fighting a bull than fighting this thing. That's how big this thing was. And this is in South Jersey. This is not Washington State. This is not in northern California or Texas. This is in New Jersey, South Jersey area,

38:23 and you know, and so you know, it's it's it amazes me because you know, I listened to a lot of podcasts, you mean, like I told you earlier, and everybody's always talking about Florida, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, California, Washington, but nobody ever said another about Jersey, you know what I mean. I hear in New England, I hear Rhode Island, I hear a story about Connecticut, but nobody haven't said another about New Jersey, and it's like, I don't know if I've seen it. I know a whole lot of other people had to seen it, you know what I'm saying. So then I started, but Jimmy googling my area big fool sightings and filing New Jersey and or in South Jersey, and you mean they had been you mean, but they mean like encounters in this area back in the sixties and the fifties. You know what I mean.

39:27 Google, You'll see it, you know what I mean, Like all I do with jim Google bigfool sightings in Billing in New Jersey, or during bigfool sightings in South Jersey. Then you mean they had a few sightings, you know what I mean. There's a farmer down here that has seen it. One day, I think I was some time in the sixties. And at the same day it was a teenager guying girl. They seen it down at the sand Wash. So you know there they're here. You know what I'm saying. It's just you know, and it's gonna get more crazy when I tell you now. I graduated in nineteen ninety and I started driving a truck. My father was a truck driver. He passed away a year ago and he was a truck driver, and I became a truck driver right out of high school and I started driving a truck and all that stuff. So two years after my first siding, I was driving for my father and I used to go to the same place, like down the street, maybe I'm a half a mile away from our first sighting. There was a warehouse that they used to ship like aluminum products like aluminum foil or ran a luminum box

41:02 to make stuff out of aluminum, you know. And I used to go to Charlotte, North Carolina at least him three times a week. So one day and now Stralote got jumped in the truck. It's eight o'clock at night out of be in Charlotte for six in the morning. So I get to the Whitehouse and it's like I'm saying, it's about a half a mile away from my first sighting. I get to the Whitehouse and nobody's there. It's all dark. It's only one light post. It's kind of back in the woods, Like I said, this is all woods back here. And I found my trailer that I had to hook up too. Hooked up to the trailer, I jumped out the cab. I was going to. I hooked up my airlines and I wanted to go crank the landing gear up. As soon as I touched the landing gear, I heard these screams and howling and screams and screams, and I froze, and I I just felt I couldn't move. I could not move them. And these screams was so loud.

42:21 They just went right through you. And I couldn't move, and I don't want to turn my head to the right, and I didn't want to turn my head to the left. I just kept straight, looking right to the trailer. You know. I read the wall right there at the trailer walls, you know what I mean. I was just looking at the trailer walls. I couldn't move, so following I was getting louder and louder and louder. And what I did was I left the landing gear there. I pulled a pin on the tractor on hook the lines didn't even bother the hooking up to the cab, you know, like we had hooks where like you know, we used to hook up the airlines and electrical court. I jumped in the truck and I took off and I didn't go back. I parked the truck in front of the house and I told my father, I'm not going back there. He said, why why happened? I said, I'm not going back there. I don't want to talk about it. I'll pick it the load up in the morning when the sun's up. And that's what I did. So I went back like eight o'clock in the morning, and you know, they had a rescheduled appointment. And I hooked up to the load and I went to Charlotte, North Carolina. I didn't talk to nobody for two or three days. So and uh, I didn't. I didn't want

43:53 to be bothered by anybody. I just wanted to deliver this load. And I wanted to sit in Charlotte, North Carolina. And I didn't want to move you, I mean, because it's scared the hell out of me. That scared me. That scared me ten times more than that first encounter. And and then I told the broker, I said, listen, I'm not going back in there at night no more. If you guys can't have the load ready about five pm, I'm not picking it up. I'll pick it up the next day. So they had made arrangements because I was the only one corner struggle in North Carolina because nobody wanted to go there. So because nobody wanted to go there, they had to make sure that load was was loaded by five pm because I wasn't going in there at night anymore. And I did that for about a year, and so that was about a half half a mile away from our first sighting. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these were it's from our sponsors. I was just about that.

45:07 I was just about to ask that man, Yeah, that's scared of hell out of me. That's scared of hell out of me. A matter of fact, I'm by now telling you this. I'm getting my hairs on, my arms are standing up. Stop bothering the hell out of me. And you know what it's was like And it kind of sounded like the Ohio sound, but ten times louder or its or like ten times I don't know how to explain it, but like, you know, louder, like you know what I mean. When this thing screamed, it was like this thing had a paralongs on it, I mean, you know, and it went right through I didn't know where it was. I heard it. It was loud.

45:57 It was getting louder and louder. I mean, that was coming and as like I said, I froze. I couldn't move. I actually could not move my body. It was like something like I felt like something was holding me there and then like I snapped out of it. In all that ass you know what I mean. And like I said, I made arrangements. I never went back there at nighttime. The trailer wasn't loaded about five o'clock that love was sleeping the next morning. I wasn't going to go back there at nighttime. And everybody always kept on asking me why why and what did my mother tel that I heard this scream and it's scared the hell out of me. And I'm like going back in there at night. You know what I'm trying to say. I mean, you know, I was a young guy. I mean, what was the first thing they're gonna say, Oh, this guy was looking due, you know what I mean? You know what I'm trying to say. I mean, you know, and I just, uh, I went back to night. I didn't care, you know what I mean. I was at the point where my dad wanted to fire me and hired somebody has to drive the truck that was fired with me, how about it? Yeah, I mean that's how I felt. I didn't care. I wasn't going back during night. So and you mean, it's just like I mean, the only one that I told about that story was was goose to my wife, you know what I mean, So you

47:31 know she was only all I knew about that. Yeah, but but see I have met my wife, I don't know, like like eight nine years later after that, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, but that's what I mean. When I was telling you about my father on law, when he was telling me about his encounter, and you mean, I was just so like, you mean, that just came right back at me, you know what I mean. I was like, man, it's the same place, the same spot, the same hill saying everything. And you know, I don't know whether it was the same creature. I don't know how long they live, you know what I mean. I don't know how don they hang out in the same area. I don't know, you know, but you know, basically, the same thing happened to me happened to him. And then like two years later after my first account of this thing happened with the screaming and the howling. And I want to tell you something. It sounded like a dynasaur was coming. It was it like a coode or anything like that. It sounded like a dynasaur coming. That's scared the hell out of me. That's scared as I don't tell you right now what I'm telling you it is. All my hairs are standing up on my arms. So you know, that was no joke that there. I was there by myself and the only thing I had in my pocket was a little going A little buck lives here. I mean, you know what I mean,

49:02 That's all I had, you know, And this thing sounded like a dinosaur comings, and it was coming, and I knew it was coming, you know, but I never you know, and then uh, you know, just you know this area here, and then like if you say something, you know, it's like people look at you like you're crazy. That's why I really never said anything to anybody. All my friends at the hunt shop, I never saidden, you know. I mean, like you know, I was, I'll start something little and then you mean I just let it go, you know what I mean. But uh, you know, it's not just in I just want to say you. I mean, it's it's not just in the Pacific north West, it's here in Jersey too, you know. Oh absolutely, swamp talk, can you can you repeat the name of the town that both of these things happened in? All right out violent v I N E L A N B New Jersey, Okay, Vineland, New Jersey. I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's a listener out there who's listening to this and it's like that sounds like Vineland, and then they're gonna be like, oh, it is Vineland, and then they're gonna say, like, I've had a similar situation happened in that area.

50:31 I just I have a feeling that we're going to hit something with this one. It just feels like it. So let me know. Email is Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, or you can always drop it in the YouTube comments, but the best ways to email me directly. But man, swamp talk, these are these are nuts. Man. Yeah, well it just gets better. Uh uh About seven years ago, I don't know, maybe eight years ago, I was running back and forth like the Boston, Massachusetts and then when I used to get unloaded in Boston, Massachusetts, I used to go up in the state of Maine, and I used to pick up water at the Poland Spring, but in a warehouse. I mean, I don't know, you guys got to in Owa, but I mean we have Poland spring water. It's like bottled water. I mean, so anyway, I mean I used to I used to be my back hall. And it was kind of funny because like me and my wife. My wife used to ride in the truck with me ever since we met and we've been together like like twenty three twenty four years, and then she always rode in the truck with me, and you know, we used well out forty eight states.

52:04 But like at that time, I always going to run in Jersey to Boston, Boston to Maine and then Maine back to Jersey. And once in a while we used to talk about you know what I mean, the self a big foot and all this stuff. And I used to listen to your shows and stuff as I'm going up the road, and then shows like we've always been going through the woods. You go to Maine, we go Massachusetts, New Hampster, and we never seen nothing. And I used to tell my love, I says, how many times do you go to Maine. She goes, uh, we go to Maine. I mean like two or three times a week. I says, have you ever seen a moose?

52:50 No? So there was your sign if you never seen a moose? How you and you know this moose in Maine, and you know there moves in New Hampshire, but you've never seen it. It's the same thing with bigfoot. You may know they're there, but you may never see it. You know what I'm trying to say. I mean, you know makes sense? Like yeah, I mean and all the years I drove a truck in the state of Maine, I never seen a moose never. I've seen white tail deer, I seen black bear. I never seen a moose never. And we used to go all the way up to the Potatoes part of Maine, I stop in northern Maine by the Canada line, and never seen a moose never. And till to today, I haven't seen a moose in person.

53:45 You know what I mean? I mean, you know, so how you know there's no big foots there? You've never seen it. But it's like, how do you know? I mean, you know what I'm saying, because just because you don't see it and don't there there. It's like moose, you know what I mean, you know that there, but you don't see it, you know. So yeah, that's why I mean, I try to explain to my wife, you know. But so so what happened was I went up to Maine and I picked up a lot of water dot of poland Maine and uh, I'm we're headed back to Jersey. And I got lucky that day because I had to deliver and violent New Jersey to to a grocery historical shop, right and it's a big uh out of grocery stores, you know what I mean. And so I had a six am appointment.

54:54 Well, I'm coming down to Jersey Turnpike. I get off ex to seven Boordingtown and uh I used to get off extra seven. I go to wawall get my coffee, my hooghie or you know. I mean like a store called wah Wah has a real popular store around my area. And uh, I'm going down the road after we eighty drinker coffee and I'll be tired, you know. I mean, this is like my third round. And uh, I mean back in the days moving there have electronic law books. So I'm running the row with three law books, because you know what I mean, I'll go back and forth, back and forth, and uh, well, anyway, I jumped off two ninety five in Bordingtown. It's uh the mean, howich ninety five about a mile away from the truck stop and wadwa and all that it used to be arrested area. That's on the right hand side, on the south wound side. So I pulled in there and I took out of me like an hour nap because I had time. I was only sixty miles away from my hometown. So what you mean about an hour ride? I was there, So I wake up an hour in an hour, I waked my wife up. I said, come on, we gotta go. I jumped in the driver's seat. I turned my lights on,

56:30 I turned my material lights on, and I'm doing my law book real quick. And my wife was still in the bunk and she's putting her shoes on. And I just happened to look up and on the right side of the rest area, I saw something running very very very very very fast. It was on my right, it was very sores my left, and I thought it was gonna go across the highway. And what I saw was about eight to nine feet tall. It was only thirty yards away from the front of my truck. Well, I popped my head out because I was doing my law book. I had my book on my life on my lap.

57:29 I'm drawing the lines on the law book and doing my numbers and all that. And I looked up and I've seen this thing running. And then, like I said, it was it was very very tall, eight nine ft tall. But the way it was running, it was so fast. But you know when you dog or you're running that your head bops up and down. You know what I mean, when you run. If you see somebody running, the head goes up and down, you know what I mean, as they're running. This thing wasn't doing that. This thing looked like it was on a skateboard going across the parking lot doing like sixty mile an hour because it was smooth. He was like it was on the ice skates, smooth going across the parking lot. My headlights hit it, and like I said, it was like thirty I said, about thirty thirty five yards away from my truck. And you mean I was driving a Peter boat at the time. I was at three seventy nine and I was kind of, you know, right there, and I've seen this thing and I said it.

58:43 My wife's, yo, you see this. I told you they're here. And she's like, what are you talking about. I said, pig foot just right across the truck. She said, you're crazy, and she said you're tired. I said, no, I asked, you said? And then when it ran across the parking lot and it that's my truck, like towards it, like it was going towards the highway. It kind of jumped, but it turned towards me in the air and it landed in the ditch. And I just stood there, and I'm arguing with my wife. I said, you had to see that, and you mean and you mean I'm arguing whether. I said, if you wasn't so damn slow put your shoes off, you would have been in the front seat and you would have seen it. And she said, I didn't see nothing. I said, well, guess what. I've seen it again and so on. But do you know the spotlights of the police cars have Okay, I had one on my truck, so I turned it on. I turned it towards the highway, like down to this ditch. I put the truck at first gear and I let it roll real slow. Ever seen nothing. So I don't know whether right across the highway on the northbound side, or it was behind trees and I couldn't see it, but I showed my spotlight and never see nothing.

1:00:14 But I did see it running across the parking lot, and I'm telling you, it was like it was on the ice skates. The head was above in it was so like smooth. It was like, I can't explain it, but it was like it was like on a skateboard going across. It wasn't going up and down, you know what I mean. Like when people run, the head goes up and down and you see the shoulders going up and down. This thing wasn't doing. This thing was smooth. It was like it was like it was like on a skateboard, or it looked like it was on the ice skates. But it was coming across the parking lot quick and it was running fast, and I never see nobody ever run that damn fast, you know what I mean. And but the way when it jumped into the ditch, it kind of turned towards me and it landed and kept going, and that's when you know. I mean, I freaked out.

1:01:15 I was like, like, you know, holy ess. I was like, you know, I'm telling about why did you see that? Did you see that? She said no, I didn't see nothing, and she's like, it probably was a bear. I said, there's no way in hell this thing was a bear. I know what a bear. A bear do not move like that. I don't care if a million people tell me that was a bear. I will deny it. That was not a bear. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. I know that wor fact it wasn't a bear. I know that, I know what bears look like. I'm not stupid, you know what I mean.

1:01:59 So when I left, I was I was, I was like up, you know what I mean, Like, I couldn't sleep. When I got to Violin, unloaded my trailer, I went back to the yard, I parked the truck and trailer and I went home. I usually crash, you know, I mean, because I'm tired, you know what I mean, Because I only I just drove six tehund miles in like twenty four hour period, and I mean I was tired and I couldn't sleep. I couldn't eat. All I did was smoke circles and drink coffee. I was thinking about this is it going through my mind over and over and over and over, and I'm telling, oh, I just saying it was a bear.

1:02:40 Now it wasn't a bear. A bear, don't run like that, you know what I mean? You know, but that was that was account and that was at that time. That was the third encounter. That was the closest one that I had eyesight, you know what I'm saying, Like know what I mean that that I saw with my eyes and you know, and since I was like said, thirty thirty five yards, so you know, that was sixty miles away from my hometown, violent north of me. And if you and if you talk about Warring State farest let mean the pine barrens.

1:03:25 It's only from where I go to Warren State Forest and there's probably violent though, uh you know, thirty miles away, you know what I mean, if you went up to H six, it would be like thirty miles away to Bordentown. Let me let me tell, let me to that rest area. So you know, about twenty five thirty miles away. So now I'm thinking, Okay, Violin to Barrenttown and then all the stories I heard of Warren State Forest. That's like a little triangle, like a sixty mile triangle. Like you know, I'm trying to say, you know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, I got you. Yeah, so you know I'm thinking this area here, and I mean, and it's not like you know, I was tired, Yes, I was tired. I admit I was tired. Like I said, I mean, I used to go hard as a truck driver, you know what I mean. I was the guy who overnight at Florida or you know what I mean. You know, but when I took an hour and nap, I was good. I was good to get home, you know. But I saw this they running across.

1:04:35 It just happened. I just lifted up my head and looked, and my headlights and all my market lights were all on the truck, and I saw this thing running across and I just blew my mind. And then on my way home, like like I said, I'm about sixty miles away from my hometown, I'm margin with my my wife. I was like, you gotta let me be a little quicker, you know what I mean. And you know what I mean, I'm telling her what I've seen, and she's saying, it's a bear. Not to see there a bear? You know, I know what a bear looks like, you know, so you know it's just like everything's always a bear, and this is worth the bed, you know what I mean. And I'm saying to myself, I give me, and give me. I'm arguing with my wife and you know. So that's how that went. Stag When you when you had a visual, did you notice anything weird about the eyes at all, anything that stood out? That's the one thing. I don't see. No eye. Okay, I saw the thing. I saw the body, and the eyes were black because when my headlights hit it when it jumped into the ditch, it turned towards me as I was jumping into the ditch, so his right leg would have landed first into the ditch when my head lights hid it and he turned or I

1:06:13 saw the black eyes. I didn't see yellow. I didn't see green, I didn't see red. It was just black eyes. This thing was tall, so I know it wasn't some idiot in a monkey suit, because I never seen somebody eight nine feet tall. You know what I'm trying to say. I mean, this thing was tall, and it wasn't like a bodybuilder. That's another thing too. It was like it was like real skinny. Everybody always talked about the real skinny ones that kind of look like a basketball player. But this was more skinnier than a basketball player. But it was tall, so you know. But I mean, I didn't see no eyeshinker when my head lights hit it. I just see no eyeshiner or nothing.

1:07:06 All I saw was brought through the black eyes. The face was covered in hair, black from head to toe. This thing was covered in hair, and it was tall, and it was lanky. That's the word I want to use, lanky, you know. I mean, it wasn't as big as a basketball player, but it was tall as a basketball player, gotcha. You know what I was thinking of myself? Man, this thing must have missed a couple of meals, because this thing wasn't like you know, everybody talks about the three four football with shoulders and you know what I mean, big barrel chests and all that sudden. This wasn't like that. Like, give me, this wasn't like that. This one I seen was tall and lanky, but he was fast. This thing was fast if he was chasing you, you wouldn't have a chance. I'm thinking if the way this thing moved, he was so fast that if you were out in the middle of the woods and you had your rifle in your hand, I think he would have got to you before you even raised your rifle. That's how fast this thing was. I just blew my mind. I'd never seen nothing that fast. I think, like cheetahs and tigers and stuff on TV. This thing was moving fast, you know, And give me that just brew my

1:08:41 mind, you know, I mean I was, I wasn't scared. I was more excited than scared of what I saw. Absolutely, but I couldn't believe because I couldn't believe how fast this thing was moving, you know what I mean. It's just you know, I just you know, I mean, it just blew my mind. It just blew my mind. What kind of have you ever thought to yourself? You know, what kind of creature are are we dealing with? Here? Like? How is it you explained it? Do you explain it more as like a big ape or maybe a forgotten relative or I hear a lot people say ape. I hear a lot of people say human. I hear a lot of people say these things come from space, and I don't believe that one bit. While I've seen that day at thirty five yards from my truck with my lights hitting it, this thing was human, more human. I'll put it to you this way.

1:10:02 If they ever get one of these things and put it on a slab, they're going to come up with this is the third type of tribe in America. This thing was human. The face when this thing turned at me, and I saw the face because I'm telling you my on my head lights that's hitting this thing, this is human with hair all over it. I believe this is that these creatures are human. I know people always say ape or half ape, half human these things. In my eyes my opinion what I see this thing's human or more human with something else. I don't know, but I'll put it to you this way. And I see one and I'm in my tree stand, I couldn't shoot it. There's no way possible I could shoot it. The only way that I would shoot something like this is if it was attacking me, my pets, or my wife and then he's going to meet Jesus. But if I'm in a tree stand and it's walking by, I can't shoot it because in my mind, that's a human, some kind of human, and I've seen it up close and personal in my

1:11:34 truck. Now, the last encounter that I'm gonna tell you, I was on my motorcycle and this is two years ago. I had a big Yamaha, but a big bikes for the pharynx, and I'd like to write at nighttime. This is about one o'clock in the morning. They have built a brand new truck stuff. And this is on Garden Road. If you look it up on Google, you'll see Garden Road and across this route fifty five. If you if you're looking on Google, you'll see that old abandoned airport and all the warehouses back in the industrial park. And you'll see the warehouse where like I had the howling screen that was coming at me. That's all in the same area, just maybe half a mile maybe three quarters of a mile away from each other. Well, I was on my bike and I like going through the woods were not the wood but you know, I was on blacktop and I'm riding. I'm passing the trucks up on my right handside.

1:12:45 As like I said, there's trucks are not even rolled and I'm on my bike and there was still building most of the parking lot, because half of the parking lot was done like for truck parking, and they were working on the other side. So I'm riding and I never told this one to my wife, but I'm riding my bike and I'm doing about thirty five forty mile an hour. Because it's doctor Rose, I'm looking for deer jumping out in front of me. So I mean, I wasn't going too fast.

1:13:29 I'm riding. I got the high beams on my bike, and what I seen, what I thought it was. I thought that when they were clearing the land, they got these they got these tree trunks. And what I was thinking, I must have fell off of a dump truck and landed on the side of the road. Half of it was on the road and half of it was on the shoulder. So I slowed down. I get about twenty yards from this thing and it wasn't a tree truck. I stopped.

1:14:17 I stopped the bike and like, what the helth is this? Right? This thing stood up, had a deer under his arms. It kind of turned I'm thinking, like from the waist up it kind of turned at me. Looked at me and ran across the street into the woods. But when this thing stood up, my legs turned the jello. And I'm riding a motorcycles like nine hundred pounds, and I'm thinking to myself, what the f and I froze. My legs were jello. My arms felt like jello, and I swore I was going to drop my bike right there. But this thing, as like I said, had turned, looked at me, had a doll under its right arm, looked at me. He did a little growl, and he ran into the woods. And I didn't see it no more. And I stood there. I couldn't turn. I was so scared.

1:15:45 I couldn't turn my bike around to making you turn. I couldn't go forward because I didn't know it was there. You know what I'm trying to say. I just stood there for about ten minutes, and I didn't know what to do. And I said it myself. I'm here, I'm not moving, my biker's running, my lefs are on, and this thing comes out of the woods. I'm not gonna be able to control my bike. I'm gonna die right here. This is it, This is done. I was twenty yards away for this thing when I came to a complete stop, and when it turned, I didn't see no monkey face. I hadn't seen a gorilla face. I saw a human face, kind of like an Indian face. That's what I see. And I see these twenty yards away.

1:16:33 We'll be back with more big Foot society after these words from our sponsors. And I wear glasses when I ride my motorcycle. And I got these these type of glasses. They're like goggles, but they have do mean my my prescription from my eyesight on these goggles. And I saw this thing up and personal. That was the closest encounter and my last encounter. That was my last encounter. That's why I say these things are human. But when this thing turned around, it showed teeth. I didn't see no fangs. I didn't see no monkey face. I didn't see no gorilla face. I saw eyes, nose in the mouth like a human being. But much much, but dream bigger. And I came back at home. Well, no, after I got myself together, I kind of walked my bike into a U turn because I'm telling my legs are still jello. And I went to that convenience story Walwatan when I was telling you earlier. I got a coffee.

1:17:57 I sat on the on the GI me like to GI mean, I got to parking lot, you know what I mean. And I'm drinking my coffee. I was shaking that my cup was shaking and I had to hold my coffee with two hands in order for me to drink it. My cigarette, I lit up a cigarette and I could hardly light my cigarette up. I was had to do that with two hands too. So and I mean, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting up by my bike, and I'm talking to God. Why are you doing this to me? Why are you doing this to This happens since I was a teenager until now. Why are you doing this to me? And give me? That's why I kept telling myself.

1:18:49 I'm I'm actually talking to God. Why are you doing this to me? This is your fault. Why are you doing this? Why are you tormenting me? You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, because you're going through it. A billion things are going through your mind. You go twenty yards away from one of these things, it's going to change your life. If you don't believe in Jesus, You're gonna believe in Jesus, that day. You know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, it's just that was my last encounter. And it's like, you mean, two years later, when I came home, it was a couple of hours later, my wife's like, where you been? I said, I want to talk about it, And you mean, I've never told my wife I parked my bike in the driveway. The next morning, I told my wife put it up in the internet. I might run on my back anymore. I sold my motorcycle and I was two years ago. I sold my motorcycle.

1:19:47 I sold it and I've never been on a motorcycle ever again. Because when I was away from this thing at twenty yards, I had no protection. Nothing can protect. I have no roof, I didn't have no door, I didn't have anything, just me and the bike. That scared the hell out of me. It just scared me so bad that I sold my bike. A week later. My bike was gone, and I never rode a motorcycle ever again. Never that just that messed me up. I was riding a motorcycle and I love riding a motorcycle. You know what I mean, It's just I couldn't do it no more. That just I mean that's you know how everybody says, oh, you shouldn't ride a motorcycle because you get in the car accident, you got nothing to protect you. Well, I never thought about that, But when I saw this thing, I'm saying to myself, this thing could have snagged me off this bike, and I had nothing nothing to protect me nothing, no doors, no roof, no windshield, no nothing. I sold my bike and I never rode a bike ever again. And it's been two years since I wrote a motorcycle. I's how bad this thing messed me up. So that is wild that you actually sold your motorcycle. It affected you so much, motorcycle. I sold my motorcycle, and I don't want a motorcycle over again. I don't want to ride a motorcycle. I don't. This thing just messed me up. It's like

1:21:21 I was telling you. Everybody always talking about, oh, you shouldn't ride a motorcycle because the car accident, you got no protection, you fall, you're d I wasn't even think about that anymore. I'm thinking about So I don't want to ride a motorcycle over again because I got no protection off of these things. This think you're ride up against you and you're going into back country roads. This thing will snag you off. This is what I This is what I had in my mind. This thing has snagged you off your bike and you're done because there's no protection. This is how my my mentality was at that time. So I wrote a motorcycle. Where Ever, again, never, my wife always asked me, when we want a good bike.

1:22:12 Never, I don't want nothing to do with motorcycles. I want nothing to do with anything like me. Get me as far as a motorcycle, because I said, there's no protection for these things. You stop about a stop sign and you're in the middle of the road. You know what I mean. This is what where my mentality was. You know what I mean? You know how you know how sometimes you hear hunter goes. I don't hunt no more. I sold my guns. Well, this is how it was from me with a motorcycle. I sold my bike. I sold everything and I want no parts of it. And I don't know why, because you mean I was on blacktop. I wasn't you know what I mean, I was on both sides of me. But you mean I was on black top doing give me back roads, you know what I mean? So, but I mean this, that's me up, you know what I mean.

1:23:00 I just I didn't want no parts of it. I throw my bike and I never wanted to buy another one ever. Yet, you know, I feel like there's got to be some big foot researchers that check out Vineland, New Jersey. I mean, you got I want to play stuff. Man, I'm gonna tell you, like I tried calling it like years ago. I tried calling it beat RFL in New Jersey, sure, and there was like nobody on the other line. I mean, I don't even know if they exist, you know what I mean. But I know, and I know the other people, old timers, old farmers, hunters. I know that they know that they're there because I'm telling you, I know that I'm not the only one that ever seen these things. And you mean, these guys telling me, oh, I'll be careful when you go out in the woods and you go camping this, you know, blah blah blah. You know what I mean, make sure you got protection and you know, just keep an eye or just your surroundings and stuff like that. You know, they have to know something they just ain't telling you, you know what I mean. And sometimes that kind of aggravates me, because if you know there's something out there, you should tell somebody. That's you know what I mean.

1:24:30 So that way, like like they're prepared and they won't get hurt or give mean they're go missing, you know what I mean. I mean, you know, it's just I don't know. Knowledge is everything, yea, And every night it's I was telling you, I listened to your your podcast. I listen to sess watch chronicles, I listen to but give me, doctor Meldroom. I listened to give me a whole lot of people. And I mean, you know, and you mean I'm learning. And when I hear stories, I stop and think about it, and I think about my encounters, and then I think about their encounters. And I'm always thinking, always thinking, always thinking. These things are all over, you know what I mean, They even say they're they're down South America. You know absolutely absolutely what you know? And then I think about all the stories I hear about the government. Now, well, I wasn't finished with the last encounter the lady. And you mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mention the company. But I known her for many, many years, many years, and I felt comfortable talking to her. And a couple of days after this

1:26:08 thing was with the motorcycle of me and her whilst hot smoking, and I said, Bob, I gotta talk to you anyway, I gotta talk to you, and then she said, yeah, go ahead. So I told her what had happened to me. And the reason why I told her was was because her son's a game warden in New Jersey in our area down here, and I said, you know, can you just this is what happened to me. I wasn't drinking, I don't do drugs, but this is what happened to me. Can you relay this story to your son since he was a game warden or or is the gate warden? And asked him if he wants to look into it, or if he wants to call me and talk to me. And a couple of states went by and I had asked her again. I says, you know, did you talk to your son?

1:27:25 And he said yeah, he says you're crazy, you were seeing things. He said he never seen nothing like that, blah blah blah. And I left to the alone. I never said nothing no more. I left to the leone and that's when I I stopped talking about it. I was gonna tell my wife about it, but I didn't want to after that, after what she told me, while her son said, you know, I don't want to talk about it, you know. And well, that was up and close. It's about twenty yards away, and I'm thinking, this is a tree truck, you know, you know how when they dig it out of the ground and and then you need to put it on the back of a a dump truck or something. I'm thinking, like, this thing fell up a truck and the land on the road. So you mean I stopped. I was gonna go around it. But before I was gonna go around it, the things stood up. And this was a big boy.

1:28:26 This was a big boy. And I just don't you know what I mean. And I'm sitting in my truck right now. I'm about ten minutes away from all this that I'm telling you, you know what I mean, except the one on two ninety five or sixty miles away, but everything else that I'm telling you, I'm only ten minutes away from it. If I jump and I start my truck up right now, I could be in those areas in ten minutes. So you know, I don't know that I've seen it. If I've seen it, I'm pretty sure everybody else seen it. I mean, my follow up told me he's seen it, you know what I mean, when when he was fourteen years old. So yeah, I mean, like you said, that was like the thirties, thirty five, nineteen thirty five, nineteen thirty somewhere around there, because he was like sixty seven when he was telling me. So, I don't know, I just and I mean, you used to upset me too, I give me. I don't know why it did, but but it used to, you know what I mean, because every time I hear I hear like a podcast, and I always talk about other states. Nobody ever talked about Jersey. And I'm saying to myself, isn't there anybody in New Jersey? I ever seen one of these things? And it used to piss me off, you know what

1:29:56 I mean, because I know what I see. I know what I'm going through. You know, I think I smoke more cigarettes now but I did before because of this ship that happened, you know what I mean. It's like, you know, you know me, and and I think I think about it too much because I dream about it sometimes. I get these dreams I wake up three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, and I'm sweat And if my wife's to tell you, my pillows would be silking wet. And you know, she used to have to change the best cheese and the pillows and all that stuff because my side of the bet would be silking wet, especially when I have these dreams, I mean of these things. So I don't know if I have ps what they call it, PSTD or or whatever you mean, I don't know. I don't know, like if I had that, because I never talked to anybody about it, not even a strict or my doctor. But you know, I don't know. I get these bad dreams about stuff like that. You know a lot of people do get PTSD from encounters that that is definitely a real thing. Swamp dog for sure.

1:31:12 Yeah. So you know, well, you mean I still go into woods, I still bowl hunt, and you know what, this is another thing too. You know, I'm I'm not the guy that goes through a bud A dealership and you have to buy a new geeb or you know, buy a new truck. I'm the guy that buys the twenty three year old truck and I like to build my truck, and I like to build it so it would last in the middle of the woods and all that stuff. I make my own bumpers. I don't order bumpers. The only thing I order on my truck is my suspension with for tires and wheels. When I make a bumper, and when I build a bumper, I build this bumper.

1:32:00 And when I'm thinking when I'm building this bumper, I want to build this bumper that's strong enough that if I remember going through a trail and I run into one of these things, I want that bumper and my friend into my truck to last. I want no damage. Is so like a lot of times my friends be like, yo, man, you building a bumper. Kind of over killed, don't you think? I said, well, there's reasons to see you know what I mean? And you know I mean, but like, but everything I do, when it's building the bumper, frug her back, it's for this creature. It's weird. If I'm building something on my truck, I'm building it. I tried to do it like a big foot proof, you know what I mean. It makes sense, and it's crazy that I shouldn't be thinking like this, but I do think like this is how I think, Like you know, I mean, like you know, and it's it's weird. But this is how I think.

1:33:01 I brought my truck for bigfoot proof. You know what I mean. If I'm gonna build the rocaides, you know what I mean, I built for bigfoot proof. You know what I mean. And it's it's weird, and you know what I mean, it's kind of messed up. I think you know what I mean. I mean, you know, because I do everything overkill, like my front bumper, my back bumper, my rock slidders on the side of my truck at the bottom. Everything is bigfoot proof. And I go overkill on steel pipe, whatever, my well dings, my wells, everything. And you know, now I moved into Tennessee, Eastern Tennessee.

1:33:43 I have bought property out there. I don't want to mention where where you mean I bought property, but it's up in the mountains eastern Tennessee. And like I told my wife the other day, I'm gonna be honest with it. This is what I told her. Fifty percent of the reason why I bought this property up in the mountains, it's because of big Foot, and the other fifty percent why I bought this that piece of property on the side of the mountain is for us. And she looked at me. She because you're serious. I say, yes, I'm serious, you know what I mean? And then you know, she's starting to come around and she started to think, you know what this guy's telling her the truth? You know what I mean. I mean, I never told her why I sold my bike because I was I was kind of afraid to tell her why.

1:34:36 But you mean, I never told her, which I know she's gonna know now if you put this on your podcast, you know what I mean. But but then she's gonna know why. You know what I mean. But I mean, I never told her. I never told her anybody. You're the first one and only one that I told why I sold my bike. That was too years ago. The Eastern Tennessee property. Have you done research tend to see if they're reportings on that property or you just had a good idea that you were in the right area. Well, listening to other encounters Eastern Tennessee, around the Kentucky area and all that, I kind of got an idea. And then I started looking into it, and they had where I bought my property. They had four encounters in that town. I'm not saying all my property, but like I mean, in that town, they have four encounters because I googled it. I don't want to say the name of the town, you know what I mean. And but but that what I bought property in Tennessee. Fifty percent of that reason why I bought that property was because Bigfoot. Now I want to get down and dirty, you

1:36:06 know what I'm trying to say. I don't want to say that I want to be a researcher or anything like that, but I don't know. Just I want to get down and dirty with this creature. I'm gonna say killing it or anything, you know, But I'm just saying I want to. I want to. I cannot put it. I want to be like you, a close or I want to be around of all this feels like you want the truth. You're trying to figure out the truth. Well, I know the truth. I've seen the truth, sure, But I just I don't know. I just can't explain it. You know what I mean, the reason why? But I mean I both this probably like I said, you know what I mean, how the reasoning is because of this creature.

1:37:06 I want to know more about this creature. I want to know everything about this creature. I want to know everything. When I was on my back and this thing turned around and looked at me, that thing looked human. I don't care what anybody in this country says, Oh they looked like gorillas, they look like apes, they look does this? That thing looked human. And I know it's part human or I don't know, three quarters human and a quart of something else. But this thing was human. This thing looked at me. It kind of at growled. The way he opened his mouth and he looked at me. It's like, what the app are you looking at? That's what his eyes was telling me, What the app are you looking at? And he took off with the deer under his arm, and that right there, you know, And I got told you. I went back to I went, I went to that convenience store. I got my coffee, lit up a cigarette. I'm talking to God, Why are you doing this to me? Why are you doing this to me? Why are you tormenting me? You know what I'm saying, Like, you know,

1:38:38 that's some moments where you talk to God. That was one of my moments, you know, asking him why he's doing this to me. You know, that's I thought it was. You know, I get to swat diet. It feels like your story is just beginning. Really once you moved on to Tennessee. I think I think things are gonna get pretty wild for you. Yeah. You know the really thord that I talked to do you mean I dealt with when I bought my property. You know, her husband hunts a lot and stuff, and and you mean, I was asking her what kind of wild animals we have out there and you know, and all that stuff. And she was telling me, and you know, and I'm like, oh, that's good, that's what I like to hunt this and that, blah blah blah. And I kind of made a joke with her.

1:39:30 I said, I hope there ain't no big foot on the property. Let me just joking around with her. And she's like never No. I was like, okay, you never know that, You'll never know She said something. Yeah, she knows something, yep, yep. So you know that's just it's like, I don't know, that's the way. Yeah, that last time there was a guy we talking to God moment, I was him why and you know what I mean, And it's like I don't know, but from what I've seen, how how these things act, what I've seen, I believe these things are more human than anything else. Now, you mean I hear they. I hear these guys talk about they that they came out of a spaceship. And I don't believe that this is a flesh and blood I say person, because that's what I seen, just hair all over it, you know what I mean. That's that's what I've seen.

1:40:43 And I mean that's I will stick with that. I'll tell I see someone. It was like a monkey or a Nate, the single human. And you mean I was talking about why I said these things are human. I can't shoot one if I'm open to tree stand or if I'm on the groundbline, I couldn't shoot one. The only way that I would shoot one it was harming my family or my animals. And like I said, don't meet Jesus, that's guaranteed. But I couldn't shoot one just to shoot one, you know what I mean. I just couldn't do it. There's no way. I hear you, I hear you, Swant Doug Man. It has been an incredible conversation with you. I'm so glad that you you contacted me because this has been incredible. Thank you. Yeah. I just I mean, it's like I was telling you earlier, you know. I mean I I listened to your shows all the time, every night, every night, every night, you know. I mean, like, you know, two or three shows at night I listened to. And it's like I was telling you, a lot of these guys that have these podcast shows, it's like like they know everything and like, I don't know, it's just I'm not gonna try to say they're cocky or something or but they act like they know it all and they know everything. And you know, I mean, all

1:42:14 these guys are doing wood knocks and all this other stuff. That stuff don't work. If you're going out there looking for one, you'll never find one. Every encounter that I had, every time I heard one, I never was looking for one. And all these guys going in the woods, they're howling and whooping and doing three knocks, They're never going to find one. These things are intelligent. For this thing to stand up with a deer under his arm, turn around at me and he was looking like, what the app are you looking at? And he ran. This thing's smart, like you know what I mean, They're not like a bear, you know, I mean, because the bear would have just stayed there, or you mean, Kyle would have just stayed there. You know what I mean. This thing took off and it knew I was scared. I had a feeling that this this last time. It knew that I was scared, and he knew I wasn't gonna do nothing. It was like it was like he was head hacho and he and he knew he was the ship. You know what I'm trying to say, Like you know about yeah, and you know it just

1:43:45 it's just accuracy with people say like oh, like God give me. Like the other day I heard I heard somebody saying that they saw these orbs going through the woods and inside the orb they saw it book book face. You can't me, I don't think so you know, that's kind of stuff that that kind of upsets me, you know what I mean, because I don't know what they're joking about this this issue or what. I don't know. But you know, I mean when I can't say that didn't happen because I wasn't there, but I saw these things up and close. Like I said, the last two times, I've seen it up and close. This is not no spaceship. I don't care what anybody says. This is more human than anything. And the eyes, it's like I said, I've never seen no eyeshine. When I was on my bike, I didn't see no eyeshine.

1:44:45 I saw black eyes. And when I was in my truck and I looked up and I've seen this one running across the parking lot, I didn't see no eyeshine. It had black eyes. The hands, the hands were like my hands, but three or four times bigger than my hands. Everybody's talking about like a catcher's net. I think it was bigger than a catcher's met. This thing was huge. And I was saying myself, this thing I ever grassed somebody. That's it. They're done, you know what I mean? You know, but I don't know. I just that's I don't know what I was cursed with this, you know. I mean, I don't know. But eighty nine was the first year I see one. As the last time I've seen it was like two years ago. I don't think it's the last time either. If you're headed to East Tennessee, man, yeah, yeah, I know that's what you think you know what I mean.

1:45:53 Yeah, I mean, you know and like you know right now right because it's kind of funny because I'm mostly but I'm mostly both hunt. But then now i'm looking at since i'm moving to that area I'm looking at I'm looking at big guns, you know what I mean, fifty caliber, you know what I'm saying. I'm thinking, this is what I need. If I'm on my property and I come across one of these things and it's you're men trying to harm us, I need a fifty caliber. I don't know.

1:46:39 I don't know. I'm a forty seven is going to do it. I don't know. You know what I mean. I've seen him like like on videos. I've seen him knocked down brown bears and grizzly bears, you know what I mean. But I gotta get me a fifty caliber. I even looked up how much the box of pullets for. That's something her ninety five dollars for a box of bullets for a fifty caliber, you know what I mean. It sounds investment for sure, But yeah, yeah, this is how I'm thinking. This is how I'm telling you. I'm thinking this way. Everything I do, I think about this creature, like from my truck all to my property. What kind of handguns do I need? What kind of rifle will put this thing down if it comes at me? If I'm on my property and I'm in a tree stand and this thing's coming at me, What do I need to put this thing down before it, like it gets to me? You know what I mean? These are the things that go through my head. You know what I mean, Like you know what I'm saying, Like you mean, I'm just I'm trying to prepare myself, you know. And you my wife, you know, she's she started, uh like I mean, she knows this is no joke, you know what I mean. And it's just it's like, I don't know, this is a part of my lot. I guess her eyes are starting to get open for sure. Yeah yeah yeah, swamp talk. Thank you, Yeah,

1:48:11 thank you so much for contacting me again, Like this has been awesome. Please keep in touch with I mean, you're going to have further interactions. I just know it being in that area. But you know, man, I just want to thank you for what you do. I want to thank you for everything that you do and everything you do and all the learning that we're all doing out here, and it's like I said, I would like to listen to you because, like to me, you're just one of the good old boys. It's not you know what I mean this All the podcasts are like it seems to me they're looking for stardom. You're just looking for the truth. I'm just trying to figure it out along with you, you know what I mean. I appreciate that. I feel that. Yeah, all right, brother, I will stop you later. And do you mean any questions I'm here, you know. I mean like I said, but you're a Bigfoot Society art goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1:49:31 Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening