Sept. 2, 2023

Swampdogg & the Sasquatch

Bonus Episode -

Swampdogg calls in to share his Bigfoot encounters from southern New Jersey from over the years, including one from high school during the late 1980s to 1990s.


An abandoned airport. 80’s hair metal. Ambushing bigfoot. And that's...

Bonus Episode -

Swampdogg calls in to share his Bigfoot encounters from southern New Jersey from over the years, including one from high school during the late 1980s to 1990s.


An abandoned airport. 80’s hair metal. Ambushing bigfoot. And that's just one of the encounters.

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We kind of spoiled our tires that
we always got stuck in there, and

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we're panicking and I'm going out the
window through my friend. He was parked

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in front of me. I mean
even going out the trail, like in

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front of me. I said,
yo, keet out of the way.

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So I backed up and I went
on the grass. I went around him,

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and as soon as I did that, he started moving and we just

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got out of there, and honestly, we never went back there again.

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all right, big Forciety, We've
got the privilege of talking to a gentleman

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tonight. His name is swamp Dog, and he approached me letting me know

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that he's got some really interesting things
to share that have happened over the years,

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and so I'm just gonna say,
how's it going, swamp Dog?

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Everything's going okay. Sorry, how
you doing. I'm doing good, having

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a great labor day weekend and just
kind of starting to relax. But I

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am excited to finally talk to you. I know, we've been going back

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and forth for a few days,
and it's exciting to get this to work

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out finally. So where are things? How are things going where you're at

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swamp Dog? The weather's nice?
You mean how Bilod, New Jersey.

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I live in south southern New Jersey
area. I'm about an out and a

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half hour, forty minutes away from
the Delaware Memorial Bridge and a half hour

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away from the Philadelphia Bridge, I
mean the walt woman. So I'm I'm

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out. I'm outside of un do
mean outside of the center city. My

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area is more of of like farmland
and we have woods. I'm only I'm

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only I say, about twenty minutes
away from Wharton State Bars out there by

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Hammonton Township and all that. And
yeah, I mean I got forests and

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farmland all the way around me.
So but uh, it's nice, hire,

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I mean, you know, but
I am moving to eastern Tennessee in

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a couple of months, so I've
believe in here city and so that's just

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that's the deal of this area here. And I'm just curious real quick how

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close are you to the Pine barrens? Uh? Wharton State Forest is the

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Pine Bearns? Matter of fact?
I uh, do you mean? I'm

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in the jeeps and I'm in the
four by fouring and that's where we go.

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There's a lot of trails out there
that we go. We do a

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lot of overland camping. I bow
hunt out there. Uh do you mean?

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Do you mean I fish out there? It's a there's a lot of

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a lot of a lot of acres, a lot of acres. I forget

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how much it is, but it's
over a thousand acres out there. I

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think it's like I don't know,
eight thousand acres that were saying, I

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believe I don't know something like that. But there's other woods too, you

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know. I mean there's a place
called U that's a winslow New Jersey.

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It's called Winslowe State Hours. If
you if you google, you'll see it.

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You mean, that's a big place
out there too. You know,

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we hang out in the woods out
there too, so but yeah, but

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we have woods all all there around
me, you know what I mean?

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For the pine barons, I know
that real good. Oh, I'm extremely

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interested to hear what you have to
share. I know a little bit about

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the Pine Barrens. I read some
books about it growing up, and there's

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some weird stuff that happens in us. Yere's a lot of weird stuff going

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on in Pine Barons. I mean, it's like I said, I've been

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going through there. I'm fifty two, and I've been going through there since

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I was like I'm seventeen, eighteen
years old. So you know, I'll

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tell you so because a lot of
weird stub goes on in there. It's

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a real nice place, you know
during the day, but when the sun

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goes down, it's a real spooky
area. And it doesn't matter where you

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go, it is spooky. I
mean, you know, I mean,

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I'm not thought they wanted to says
it. I mean a lot of my

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friends say it to you know.
So when we build a campfire, you

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know, we kind of build a
big one, you know what I mean.

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Yeah, yeah, But there's a
lot of stories coming out there,

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you know what I mean. I
mean, Jimmy, they say, like

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me, they got a dream,
the people have seen the sasquatch out there,

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and gar me, they talk about
the Jersey Devil. But I really,

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I really don't believe in the Jersey
Devil. But you mean, I

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heard a lot of stories and I
heard a lot of people talking about that,

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you mean, their encounters with that. But I think I don't know

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as far as doing me big book
goes. I can see it in that

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area because if I wanted to,
and let's say I wanted to get away

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from everybody and hide, I'd be
one place I can hide and nobody will

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ever find me. So I mean, that's how I think it is out

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there. So you know, and
then in Jersey, you know what I

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mean, a lot of people say, oh, there's no rattlesnakes in Jersey.

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There's rattlesnakes, and there's plenty of
them out there, because like I

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said, you know what I mean, I walk through there. I do

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my full by fouring out there,
you know, I mean, I look

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for doing different places to hunt,
me for the fall hunting and all that.

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And you can get as back there, you know what I mean.

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I can see how you probably got
the name swamp dog. Yes, I

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was always in the swamp. I
was always in the swamp with my four

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by four is you know what I
mean, And everybody just called me swamp

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dog. So yeah, that's how
I got that. I'm loving it.

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Well, let's what kind of things
have you run into? Because I'm guessing

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if you're going out there, swamp
dog, you're running into some stuff.

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Yeah, out there, I never
had a I've never seen anything, but

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I heard things like as far as
do I mean, I mean, like

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France snapping or some weird noises like
howls and stuff. I did hear that

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out there. But do you mean
I've never seen nothing out there, but

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you mean I did hear stuff like
that. And you know, I've never

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heard nothing like wood knock or nothing
like that, just like howls and but

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do mean they got coyotees out there
and stuff. But it wasn't no coyote,

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you know what I mean. It
was a look like the sounds that

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I used to hear out there.
You had to have some real big lungs,

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you know what I mean. And
it wasn't oko. So you know,

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that kind of raised the hair on
my neck and my arms a little

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bit. But you're only here for
a few minutes, or you might hear

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for ten minutes and then you don't
hear nothing no more. But I always

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stay close to the truck, do
you know what I mean? And I

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always make sure the keys were indignition
because I didn't want to if I ever

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counted something out that a way,
I didn't want to be looking for my

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keys. I always had the keys
indignition. So but yeah, but yeah,

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that area out there, it's do
you mean there's a lot of a

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lot of people talking. I remember
I always started bow hunting. U let

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me see how long ago was.
I don't know, maybe like it's ten,

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I don't know about ten fifteen years
ago. And I never hunted when

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I was a kid or nothing.
I got into it because when I married

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my wife, her family they all
bow hunted, and you mean they all

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they all used doing shotguns for hunting
and all that stuff, and I always

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wanted to do it, but I
never did. But then when I married

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my wife, I got into it
because my brother in law and my father

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in law and everybody. And then
I got into about fifteen years ago,

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you know what I mean. So, so I used to hunt out there.

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And I have a friend of mine. I don't want to mention his

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store because he don't even know that
that I'm talking to you right now,

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but anyway, he owns a gun
shop. And it's a gun shop slash

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hunting shop, you know what I
mean, Like you mean they do they

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do work on gun They sell guns
and bows and everything and all kind of

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hunting equipment and that mean it's a
really nice little place. But but when

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I first got into hunting and I
got my first bow, do mean the

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old timers that you mean used to
sit out our phone of the story,

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like on the ports and tell stories
and stuff. I used to say that,

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you know, I want to I
want to stalk a deer. You

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mean, I want to be up
in a tree stand or I don't want

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to be like give me behind a
blind. I want to actually hike and

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I want to be able to stalk
a deer and all that stuff. And

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I said, and then camp out
there, you know, I mean like

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maybe a couple of days or a
week, you know what I mean,

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just bowl hunt, you know what
I mean. And they used to tell

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me, like like these guys were
like in the seventies and eighties, and

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they used to tell me when I
go out there, you know what I

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mean, to be careful because there's
things out there. And I'm like,

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oh, you're talking about like the
Jersey Devil. He said, no,

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there's there's just things out there and
you have to be careful and you got

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to know your surroundings, you know
what I mean. They were trying to

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get me, like one of them
talks like you know and all that stuff.

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I'm like, okay, so you
know, and I didn't when they

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were talking about like I said,
because you mean, I've been going in

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there since I was eighteen years old, you know what I mean? And

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uh, I kind of knew what
they were saying, but I never but

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you really got into it, you
know, with them, because at that

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time, I really didn't want to
talk about what I hear things or you

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don't know whatever, you know what
I'm trying to say. I wasn't you

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know. I didn't want people to
think I was crazy, you know.

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But they were trying to tell me
too. But I guess they felt the

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same way. They didn't want to
get into it or just say I was

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just be careful out there because there's
things out there, you know. Sure,

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sure, but you didn't press the
issue to find out exactly what they

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were saying. You want to be
cool, you know, yeah, right

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right? You know, And I
mean I didn't want you know, at

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the time, I was like,
you know, I didn't want people to

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think I was crazy or not or
have I mentioned it I've seen stuff,

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or have I her stuff. I
don't want to think I was crazy,

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you know, because around here and
you know what, I noticed that too.

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It don't matter where you go,
like in this country, if you

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try to bring something up to a
hunter, they will always deny it and

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they will always call you crazy a
lot of times, you know what I

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mean, Like you know, it
seems like they don't want to hear about

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it or or give mean, they
don't want to talk about it, you

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know what I'm saying. Like you
know, I used to get that a

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lot, you know what I'm saying, like you know, or or we're

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talking around the campfire, you know
what I mean. And let's say somebody

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had mentioned something big foot. Nobody
wants to talk about it. That's a

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myth, uh, you know,
and then you will change the subject.

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So I mean, I noticed that
with hunters, so you know, absolutely

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it's it's hard to get hunters to
talk. And usually they are not with

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their buddies when they finally talk,
because you know, they want to keep

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up that appearance and not be looked
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yeah, well you mean I'm the
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got told you. You know,
I don't want to talk about it or

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say anything about it, you know
what I mean, because I don't want

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people to think I was crazy,
you know what I mean? So but

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yeah, do you mean I can
understand it, you know what I mean?

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But yeah, they're mean Jersey is
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connected to Pennsylvania, New York,
upstate New York. Uh, we're connected

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to Delaware. You know it's I
got Delaware, I got the different Pennsylvania,

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and then you know I got like
New York. So so we're connected

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going to those three states, you
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it's it's like, you know,
we had signs, I mean about like

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twenty years ago. I mean they
had signs. Different people have seen the

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you know, cougars out of here. We'll be back with more bigfoot society

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after these words from our sponsors.
And it's kind of weird because you know,

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I've never seen one, but I
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They'll be like a new deer stand
and like you know, fifty yards

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away. I mean they'll see they'll
see like a cat well back well by,

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you know what I mean. And
you know I have never seen one,

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but I mean I heard people talk
about it, you know. So

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you know, it's so assuming.
It's a lot here in Jersey that people

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will say, oh, that's New
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City, but it's not because I
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I say, it's all woods and
farms, you know what I mean,

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And it's you. I mean this
A lot goes on down here, you

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know that. You know, people
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like a lot of hidden stuff.
Has there ever been a time when you

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were out in the woods and you
know, stuff started happening. You're like,

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I don't know if I really want
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There have been times where I'll be
I'll be walking through a trail or I'll

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be walking through a game trail and
my wife is with me, and you

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know, I mean we're just going
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and I'll have a bad bad do
me, like, give me like

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a feeling, give me bad feelings, and it's just I know there's something

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there. I look around, I
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But did you mean I feel something? You know what I mean?

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And I just like, let's just
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And and yes, she'd be like, wow, what happens. I'll

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just go back to the truck.
And I don't feel right, you know.

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So but you know that happens sometimes
to me, you know. So,

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yeah, I mean, and the
reason why I feel that sometimes and

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you know, I don't know it's
good my sightings and I know they're here,

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but I don't know if and I
get like spooked because my because my

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fightings in the past, So you
know what I mean. So you know

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it's kind of weird, you know. I mean, I mean, you

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know, it's just I mean,
I just feel things, you know what

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I mean. I just feel it, and it feels like somebody's watching you,

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or it seems like somebody's watching every
move you make, and it's like,

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you know, I just like,
let's go back to the truck.

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Oh, I get it. It's
like you're you're opened up to realizing what's

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really going on around you. It
sounds like you've had a few sightings in

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the past, and and those must
have affected you in some way. I'm

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curious what kind of things did you
experience. Okay, back in nineteen eighty

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nine, I was a senior in
high school. It was it was in

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October, and I had a girlfriend, and I was with my friend of

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mine, my best friend at the
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So at the time, I had
a Poniac what was that, the

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Fierro. You remember the Poniac Fierros, Those little cars kind of looked like

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Corvette's two theaters. Oh yeah,
okay, I had one of them,

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and he had a Camaro. So
up the road from me. Amount of

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fact, it's about a mile as
about a mile away from where I'm not

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right now talking to you. It
was it was an old abandoned airport that

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you mean they used to have the
crop planes, you know, I mean

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those those little planes that's fraid the
farms and stuff, you mean, the

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fields, And they had a garage
over there where they used to work on

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these crop planes. And I mean
they used to have like, I don't

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like three or four of them over
there park. But they had a little

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dirt trail on the other side of
the airport, and this was almost around

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a corner from the industrial park.
But I mean they had a couple of

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warehouses back there. And I don't
know whether you know how the the ground

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is over here, but when you
go out in the woods, it's like

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a they call it. They call
it sugar sand. And we should have

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known better, because you know,
we don't. At the time. We

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didn't have no four by four's,
no trucks or nothing. And if you

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remember the Faeriro, it was only
maybe two or three inches off the ground,

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you know what I mean. This
as a set, you know,

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And I guess the Camaro was the
same way. But we were dumb,

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and we took the girls out there
to the airport, you know what I

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mean, and we're doing what teenagers
do, you know, listening to music,

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but then you mean making out stuff
and all that stuff, you know,

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And so we went down this trail, almost got stuck going in,

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but we made it to the grass
spot and we were all right. So

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we parked and we were hanging out
and all that stuff and talking and all

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that stuff, and we were there, i'll say about twenty minutes and no

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more than a half hour, and
we were hanging outside the cars. My

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girlfriend at the time, she was
leaning on my door and we were like,

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how getting kissing all that stuff.
And my friend of mine who was

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parked like catty corner and he was
doing the same thing. And I think

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we were listening to Moli Crew or
something, you know, back in the

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day, back in the day.
But anyway, it was a full moon

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that day, and I remember this
like it was like yesterday. Something caught

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my eye and I looked up and
at the airport, they had like a

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little hill that went up I'm making
like six feet high, you know what

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I'm saying, Like you mean,
And I looked and I see something moving

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and I'm like, oh, well, what I'm saying to myself, what

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is that? You know what I
mean? Because and you mean, I

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would say that just like dumb thought. Again, you mean, at first

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I thought it was a person and
it was standing there and I could see

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it because of the move was bright. It was about I don't know,

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maybe fifty to eighty yards away from
me, you know what I'm trying to

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say. And I'm looking at it, and then I started walking towards the

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left and then was walking towards the
right. Like going back and forth,

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back and forth, and I'm thinking
myself, what this guy doing? This

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guy, this guy on drugs or
you know what I mean, as you

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are a drunk, or what is
he? I mean, you know,

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because it was like a game warden
or something, I'm pretty sure they would

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be coming straight to us, you
know. But this thing was walking right

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to the left, right to the
left. And I did it like four

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or five times, and then I
said, my friend, I said,

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yo, I said, what is
that. That's a guy over there walking

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back and forth. Then and he
comes walking towards me, and he said,

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I don't know what he said.
Whatever it is this it looks like

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a big dude, you know,
I mean, this is how he used

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to talking. And I said,
yeah, he's big because I'm six two

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and I think i'm big. When
I saw that thing, I said,

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that's big. You know what I'm
saying. I mean, you know,

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And we kept looking at it,
and I says, yo, I don't

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feel right. Let's get out of
here. So when we were getting ready

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to open the doors to get in
the vehicles to all right about forty yards

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away to all right now, I'm
looking straight at this thing and towards my

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right. I heard a tree branch
break, and when we heard that,

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everybody jumped on the cars and I
jumped in the cars and we just started

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the cars up and we took all
and we have remember the circus saying that,

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Like I mean I was telling you
about. Yeah, well we kind

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of spot our tires that we always
got stuck in there, and we're panicking,

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and I'm going out the window to
my friend. He was parked in

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front of me, I mean,
even going out the trail, like in

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front of me. I said,
yo, keet out of the way.

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So I backed up and I went
on the grass. I went around him,

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and as soon as I did that, he started moving and we just

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got out of there, and honestly, we never went back there again.

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So, like I was telling you, one time, I was talking to

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carry Arnold and he was telling me, well, that sounded like that guy

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was trying to get her attention.
So there was one on the right about

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forty yards away that was coming towards
us, and I don't know whether they

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wanted to jump us or what,
you know what I mean, but this

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guy wanted our attention. So so
you know, Carrie was telling me that

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most likely it was trying to get
our attention, knowing that they had another

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one of these creatures on the right
of us that was coming towards us,

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you know what I'm saying. But
then when we heard the tree branch,

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let you break, and it snapped, like it wasn't a little give me

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a twig or something, it was
a big you mean, like I don't

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know, it sounded like a shotgun. That's how a lot of was.

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Yeah, I mean, I mean
this thing went cratch, I mean boom,

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And I'm like, that's when we
jumped in a car that we took

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off, you know, and we
never back there again, and you know,

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we like you actually, you know, we just so then what happened

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was we dropped the girls off at
the house and we met up at a

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diner and and I was like,
yo, dude, what was that?

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And he said, I don't know, but he said, whatever that thing

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was, that thing was big.
Because I'm six two, like I said,

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and my friend he's about six one. I don't know, maybe you're

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six two two, But he says
that thing was big. And I said,

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yeah, that thing was huge.
But the trees, the branch that

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snapped, that sounded like a gunshot. I mean, let me just have

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a tongue. It's not like a
rifle or something. You know. I

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just went boom, like you know, I'm like, what the heck?

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And we, like I said,
we jumped in our cars and we took

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off like we looked at wild rabbits
learning around. That's you know what I'm

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saying. It sounds funny now to
me, but you mean, like at

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the time, it wasn't funny because, like I mean, we're trying to

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get in their cars fast, you
know what I mean. It's like,

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you know, but that was my
first encounter, and I had never said

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nothing to nobody. My friend of
mine, me and him, we never

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talked about it ever again, and
we just never went back there, you

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know what I'm saying. But the
funny part is about this area here where

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I got my first sighting. When
I met my wife that I'm married to

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now, her father used to live
in Violin, and he moved the Gloucester

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City, New Jersey, but when
he was a kid, he was a

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teenager, he lives in Violin.
So I I never told my wife's the

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story until after my fallow told me
his story and We're sitting arm around the

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table having coffee in bagels, and
my wife told my follow out, well,

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you know, we were a boyfriend
and girlfriend at the time, but

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you know what I mean. But
you mean I went over to meet the

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parents, you know. So he's
like, well, She's like, dad,

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I'll tell you about the thing you
saw when you were a teenager out

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there. We'll be back with more
big Foot society after these words from our

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sponsors. And like, I'm like, what do you talk to me?

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I forgot all about my first encounter. So he was saying, yeah,

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I don't want to talk about it. And and so my wife was like,

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ahead, I tell him, tell
him what the story. So he

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said, when he was fourteen years
old. Now he was sixty seven at

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the time, I believe when he
was telling me that this is the story.

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But he said, when he was
fourteen years old, him and his

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friends used to camp at that airport
where I'm telling you about. But like

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at that time, when he was
a kid, it wasn't an airport,

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you It was just all fifty olds
and goes all the way around. So

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he was telling me that the Jimmy
they were pitching their tent and it's like

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eight nine o'clock at night. They
made a little camp fire because they were

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gonna do you mean that they were
cooking hamburgers or something or or hot dogs.

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And my father in law at the
time, he looked up on the

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same exact hill that I was telling
you about where I got my first encounter,

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and he saw this thing walking and
watching them, walking and watching them.

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And when he was telling me this
story, every hair on my body

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just went up, and I was
like, I don't know that, Like,

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it's scared the hell out of me, because I knew what he was

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talking about, because they saw what
I saw. But he was fourteen years

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old at the time, and he
said and when he was telling me that,

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he was sixty seven, so you
know. So then I told him,

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but I what had happened to me
and what I've seen and what my

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friends seen, and he was like, yeah, there's stuff out there,

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and you know, and uh,
but he said, it walked away from

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them, But but I hung around
for about three or four minutes, he

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said, and I walked away.
But he said it was walking along this

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hill, like on top of the
hill, and and it was watching them,

388
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.920
and then it walked away. And
he said he never saw it again

389
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:39.319
ever. And then after that,
a couple of weeks later, I guess

390
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:44.480
they had moved to Gloucester City,
him and his mom and dad or whoever.

391
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.839
So, but yeah, that's so, I see that's two encounters in

392
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:54.920
the same same exact area. That's
that's incredible. So he has a part.

393
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.640
He has his encounter in the late
thirties. You have yours in the

394
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:05.440
late eighties. Yep. I'm guessing
if if my math is correct, he

395
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.239
would have his would have been in
the late thirties, I think, because

396
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:15.039
you said there was about fifty years
all that's wild and so I brew in

397
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.840
my mind, I was shocked.
I never I went to meet them,

398
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.800
and I never thought that I would
ever hear the story and at all.

399
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:28.079
Booke, it all came back to
me, so you know what I mean.

400
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.280
I was like, yeah, boom, I said, oh man,

401
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:37.440
So you know so that's when like
after I told him my encounter, and

402
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.119
he just looked at me and he's
like, yeah, there's things out there.

403
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:43.920
Yeah. I was like, yeah, I said, I guess.

404
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.719
So you know that we didn't talk
about it no more. We talk about

405
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:51.559
all the things. I totally get
it, so a few, a few

406
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.159
questions for you about that, because
that was just a fascinating story. You

407
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:59.119
know, the mental picture of like
you guys hanging out in the late eighties

408
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.280
at this aband An airport, listening
to the Motley Crew. There's probably like

409
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.880
kickstart in my heart or something,
and then all of a sudden, you're

410
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.079
just burning rubber or whatever, trying
to get away from these big fat which

411
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.760
they were trying to sneak up on
you, I'm pretty sure on the one

412
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.639
side of the car. And it
was almost real bad for you guys.

413
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.360
Yeah, if we would have stayed
there, it would have been real bad.

414
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.559
I believe that because I'm gonna tell
you about this thing that was on

415
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.360
the hill. It was all going
right to the left, right to the

416
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.719
left, and he wanted us to
keep our eye on him. And I'm

417
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:43.639
telling you about forty yards away to
all right, I heard that brand snap

418
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:45.960
and it wasn't like a big snap, you know what I mean. So

419
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.960
I know, with a big branch. And when that happened, we hauled

420
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.119
as we hit, you know what
I mean. It's like we were trying

421
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.159
to get out of there, you
know what I'm saying. I mean you

422
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.280
know, oh yeah, it's like
there's something on the hill. And there

423
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.039
was definitely something on the hill.
Did you get a good luck at the

424
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.280
creature? Do you remember any details
or was it it kind of too far

425
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.360
away to see the details. The
one on the right that was forty yards

426
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.000
away me about forty yards away,
well, we never seen that. All

427
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.360
we did was hear that one,
the one on the hill. That thing

428
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.719
was big. It's like I'm telling
you, I'm six two. He was

429
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:32.360
about six one six two and up
on the hill he was tall. I'm

430
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:38.199
guessing he was between seven I had
to eight be tall. That's why I'm

431
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:44.159
guessing, gotcha. He was like
fifty to eighty yards away, and he

432
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:50.159
was big and he was wide because
when we were first looking at him,

433
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:58.079
we were thinking, like, this
guy was wide, not just tall,

434
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:04.440
but his shoulders, like we could
see the silhouette, you know what I'm

435
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:09.920
saying. But he was wide at
the top, and we know he was

436
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.599
tall. I was, I'm guessing
because to me, I'm always trying to

437
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.480
picture that in my mind. And
I know he was about seven a half

438
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:27.760
eight p tall, that's I know. And he was big, and he's

439
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.159
like, you know, I keep
thinking about it and back in the past,

440
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:40.079
and like even up to a year
after that happened, I was always

441
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:45.679
thinking about it. And I'm saying
I'm myself that thing was big. That

442
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.840
thing was huge. If me and
my friend, if we had to defend

443
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.639
ourself against this one big thing,
it will never happen. It would have

444
00:37:54.679 --> 00:38:00.199
never happened. We would have been
toasted. I know that for effect to

445
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:06.559
send with a powdering to us,
we will probably have a better chance fighting

446
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.960
a bull than fighting this thing.
That's how big this thing was. And

447
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.000
this is in South Jersey. This
is not Washington State. This is not

448
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:22.239
in northern California or Texas. This
is in New Jersey, South Jersey area,

449
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:29.920
and you know, and so you
know, it's it's it amazes me

450
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.239
because you know, I listened to
a lot of podcasts, you mean,

451
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.800
like I told you earlier, and
everybody's always talking about Florida, Texas,

452
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:43.519
North Carolina, South Carolina, California, Washington, but nobody ever said another

453
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.599
about Jersey, you know what I
mean. I hear in New England,

454
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.280
I hear Rhode Island, I hear
a story about Connecticut, but nobody haven't

455
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.639
said another about New Jersey, and
it's like, I don't know if I've

456
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.440
seen it. I know a whole
lot of other people had to seen it,

457
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.840
you know what I'm saying. So
then I started, but Jimmy googling

458
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:15.599
my area big fool sightings and filing
New Jersey and or in South Jersey,

459
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:22.039
and you mean they had been you
mean, but they mean like encounters in

460
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.679
this area back in the sixties and
the fifties. You know what I mean.

461
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:32.159
Google, You'll see it, you
know what I mean, Like all

462
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.159
I do with jim Google bigfool sightings
in Billing in New Jersey, or during

463
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.039
bigfool sightings in South Jersey. Then
you mean they had a few sightings,

464
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.760
you know what I mean. There's
a farmer down here that has seen it.

465
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.480
One day, I think I was
some time in the sixties. And

466
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:55.480
at the same day it was a
teenager guying girl. They seen it down

467
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.360
at the sand Wash. So you
know there they're here. You know what

468
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:07.000
I'm saying. It's just you know, and it's gonna get more crazy when

469
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:15.119
I tell you now. I graduated
in nineteen ninety and I started driving a

470
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.519
truck. My father was a truck
driver. He passed away a year ago

471
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:25.599
and he was a truck driver,
and I became a truck driver right out

472
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.920
of high school and I started driving
a truck and all that stuff. So

473
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:40.440
two years after my first siding,
I was driving for my father and I

474
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:46.239
used to go to the same place, like down the street, maybe I'm

475
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:52.159
a half a mile away from our
first sighting. There was a warehouse that

476
00:40:54.360 --> 00:41:02.239
they used to ship like aluminum products
like aluminum foil or ran a luminum box

477
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.360
to make stuff out of aluminum,
you know. And I used to go

478
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:13.639
to Charlotte, North Carolina at least
him three times a week. So one

479
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.039
day and now Stralote got jumped in
the truck. It's eight o'clock at night

480
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.239
out of be in Charlotte for six
in the morning. So I get to

481
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.800
the Whitehouse and it's like I'm saying, it's about a half a mile away

482
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.800
from my first sighting. I get
to the Whitehouse and nobody's there. It's

483
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:36.079
all dark. It's only one light
post. It's kind of back in the

484
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.760
woods, Like I said, this
is all woods back here. And I

485
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:44.079
found my trailer that I had to
hook up too. Hooked up to the

486
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:50.000
trailer, I jumped out the cab. I was going to. I hooked

487
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:57.119
up my airlines and I wanted to
go crank the landing gear up. As

488
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:06.199
soon as I touched the landing gear, I heard these screams and howling and

489
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:15.320
screams and screams, and I froze, and I I just felt I couldn't

490
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:21.440
move. I could not move them. And these screams was so loud.

491
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:30.360
They just went right through you.
And I couldn't move, and I don't

492
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.960
want to turn my head to the
right, and I didn't want to turn

493
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.199
my head to the left. I
just kept straight, looking right to the

494
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:38.679
trailer. You know. I read
the wall right there at the trailer walls,

495
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:40.960
you know what I mean. I
was just looking at the trailer walls.

496
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:47.920
I couldn't move, so following I
was getting louder and louder and louder.

497
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:54.199
And what I did was I left
the landing gear there. I pulled

498
00:42:54.239 --> 00:43:00.360
a pin on the tractor on hook
the lines didn't even bother the hooking up

499
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.960
to the cab, you know,
like we had hooks where like you know,

500
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.800
we used to hook up the airlines
and electrical court. I jumped in

501
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.679
the truck and I took off and
I didn't go back. I parked the

502
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.840
truck in front of the house and
I told my father, I'm not going

503
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.719
back there. He said, why
why happened? I said, I'm not

504
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.480
going back there. I don't want
to talk about it. I'll pick it

505
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:29.599
the load up in the morning when
the sun's up. And that's what I

506
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:37.679
did. So I went back like
eight o'clock in the morning, and you

507
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.320
know, they had a rescheduled appointment. And I hooked up to the load

508
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.760
and I went to Charlotte, North
Carolina. I didn't talk to nobody for

509
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:53.400
two or three days. So and
uh, I didn't. I didn't want

510
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.760
to be bothered by anybody. I
just wanted to deliver this load. And

511
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.119
I wanted to sit in Charlotte,
North Carolina. And I didn't want to

512
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.079
move you, I mean, because
it's scared the hell out of me.

513
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:07.960
That scared me. That scared me
ten times more than that first encounter.

514
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:15.920
And and then I told the broker, I said, listen, I'm not

515
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.719
going back in there at night no
more. If you guys can't have the

516
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.760
load ready about five pm, I'm
not picking it up. I'll pick it

517
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:29.280
up the next day. So they
had made arrangements because I was the only

518
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:35.519
one corner struggle in North Carolina because
nobody wanted to go there. So because

519
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.360
nobody wanted to go there, they
had to make sure that load was was

520
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.719
loaded by five pm because I wasn't
going in there at night anymore. And

521
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.960
I did that for about a year, and so that was about a half

522
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:58.719
half a mile away from our first
sighting. We'll be back with more Bigfoot

523
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:07.239
Society after these were it's from our
sponsors. I was just about that.

524
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:12.599
I was just about to ask that
man, Yeah, that's scared of hell

525
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.480
out of me. That's scared of
hell out of me. A matter of

526
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:21.519
fact, I'm by now telling you
this. I'm getting my hairs on,

527
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.480
my arms are standing up. Stop
bothering the hell out of me. And

528
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:30.760
you know what it's was like And
it kind of sounded like the Ohio sound,

529
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:40.039
but ten times louder or its or
like ten times I don't know how

530
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.760
to explain it, but like,
you know, louder, like you know

531
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.480
what I mean. When this thing
screamed, it was like this thing had

532
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.400
a paralongs on it, I mean, you know, and it went right

533
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:57.079
through I didn't know where it was. I heard it. It was loud.

534
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:02.239
It was getting louder and louder.
I mean, that was coming and

535
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.599
as like I said, I froze. I couldn't move. I actually could

536
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.360
not move my body. It was
like something like I felt like something was

537
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.320
holding me there and then like I
snapped out of it. In all that

538
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:22.119
ass you know what I mean.
And like I said, I made arrangements.

539
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.480
I never went back there at nighttime. The trailer wasn't loaded about five

540
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.440
o'clock that love was sleeping the next
morning. I wasn't going to go back

541
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:38.599
there at nighttime. And everybody always
kept on asking me why why and what

542
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:43.840
did my mother tel that I heard
this scream and it's scared the hell out

543
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.800
of me. And I'm like going
back in there at night. You know

544
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.000
what I'm trying to say. I
mean, you know, I was a

545
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.480
young guy. I mean, what
was the first thing they're gonna say,

546
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:52.760
Oh, this guy was looking due, you know what I mean? You

547
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.440
know what I'm trying to say.
I mean, you know, and I

548
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.280
just, uh, I went back
to night. I didn't care, you

549
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.280
know what I mean. I was
at the point where my dad wanted to

550
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.599
fire me and hired somebody has to
drive the truck that was fired with me,

551
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:13.320
how about it? Yeah, I
mean that's how I felt. I

552
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.440
didn't care. I wasn't going back
during night. So and you mean,

553
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:24.199
it's just like I mean, the
only one that I told about that story

554
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:31.039
was was goose to my wife,
you know what I mean, So you

555
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.960
know she was only all I knew
about that. Yeah, but but see

556
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.719
I have met my wife, I
don't know, like like eight nine years

557
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.119
later after that, you know what
I'm saying, Like, you know,

558
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:46.679
but that's what I mean. When
I was telling you about my father on

559
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.320
law, when he was telling me
about his encounter, and you mean,

560
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:53.519
I was just so like, you
mean, that just came right back at

561
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.000
me, you know what I mean. I was like, man, it's

562
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.800
the same place, the same spot, the same hill saying everything. And

563
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:07.320
you know, I don't know whether
it was the same creature. I don't

564
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.519
know how long they live, you
know what I mean. I don't know

565
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.679
how don they hang out in the
same area. I don't know, you

566
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:21.199
know, but you know, basically, the same thing happened to me happened

567
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:24.800
to him. And then like two
years later after my first account of this

568
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.920
thing happened with the screaming and the
howling. And I want to tell you

569
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.719
something. It sounded like a dynasaur
was coming. It was it like a

570
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:39.039
coode or anything like that. It
sounded like a dynasaur coming. That's scared

571
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:43.559
the hell out of me. That's
scared as I don't tell you right now

572
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.079
what I'm telling you it is.
All my hairs are standing up on my

573
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:53.880
arms. So you know, that
was no joke that there. I was

574
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:59.440
there by myself and the only thing
I had in my pocket was a little

575
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.119
going A little buck lives here.
I mean, you know what I mean,

576
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:07.360
That's all I had, you know, And this thing sounded like a

577
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:12.159
dinosaur comings, and it was coming, and I knew it was coming,

578
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:23.199
you know, but I never you
know, and then uh, you know,

579
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.440
just you know this area here,
and then like if you say something,

580
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.360
you know, it's like people look
at you like you're crazy. That's

581
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:37.280
why I really never said anything to
anybody. All my friends at the hunt

582
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.639
shop, I never saidden, you
know. I mean, like you know,

583
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.960
I was, I'll start something little
and then you mean I just let

584
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.239
it go, you know what I
mean. But uh, you know,

585
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.719
it's not just in I just want
to say you. I mean, it's

586
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:59.639
it's not just in the Pacific north
West, it's here in Jersey too,

587
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.960
you know. Oh absolutely, swamp
talk, can you can you repeat the

588
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:07.519
name of the town that both of
these things happened in? All right out

589
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:15.320
violent v I N E L A
N B New Jersey, Okay, Vineland,

590
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.360
New Jersey. I feel like,
yeah, I feel like there's a

591
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.559
listener out there who's listening to this
and it's like that sounds like Vineland,

592
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.800
and then they're gonna be like,
oh, it is Vineland, and then

593
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.800
they're gonna say, like, I've
had a similar situation happened in that area.

594
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.719
I just I have a feeling that
we're going to hit something with this

595
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.960
one. It just feels like it. So let me know. Email is

596
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.840
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com,
or you can always drop it in the

597
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.800
YouTube comments, but the best ways
to email me directly. But man,

598
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.400
swamp talk, these are these are
nuts. Man. Yeah, well it

599
00:50:52.559 --> 00:51:06.360
just gets better. Uh uh About
seven years ago, I don't know,

600
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:13.719
maybe eight years ago, I was
running back and forth like the Boston,

601
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:19.480
Massachusetts and then when I used to
get unloaded in Boston, Massachusetts, I

602
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.480
used to go up in the state
of Maine, and I used to pick

603
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:29.599
up water at the Poland Spring,
but in a warehouse. I mean,

604
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:31.400
I don't know, you guys got
to in Owa, but I mean we

605
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:37.239
have Poland spring water. It's like
bottled water. I mean, so anyway,

606
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.119
I mean I used to I used
to be my back hall. And

607
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:49.519
it was kind of funny because like
me and my wife. My wife used

608
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.760
to ride in the truck with me
ever since we met and we've been together

609
00:51:53.920 --> 00:52:00.719
like like twenty three twenty four years, and then she always rode in the

610
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.760
truck with me, and you know, we used well out forty eight states.

611
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.960
But like at that time, I
always going to run in Jersey to

612
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:15.320
Boston, Boston to Maine and then
Maine back to Jersey. And once in

613
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.320
a while we used to talk about
you know what I mean, the self

614
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:22.119
a big foot and all this stuff. And I used to listen to your

615
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:29.719
shows and stuff as I'm going up
the road, and then shows like we've

616
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:34.840
always been going through the woods.
You go to Maine, we go Massachusetts,

617
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.199
New Hampster, and we never seen
nothing. And I used to tell

618
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.920
my love, I says, how
many times do you go to Maine.

619
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.159
She goes, uh, we go
to Maine. I mean like two or

620
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.199
three times a week. I says, have you ever seen a moose?

621
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.760
No? So there was your sign
if you never seen a moose? How

622
00:52:54.840 --> 00:53:00.239
you and you know this moose in
Maine, and you know there moves in

623
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:04.119
New Hampshire, but you've never seen
it. It's the same thing with bigfoot.

624
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:07.880
You may know they're there, but
you may never see it. You

625
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:12.920
know what I'm trying to say.
I mean, you know makes sense?

626
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:20.440
Like yeah, I mean and all
the years I drove a truck in the

627
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.920
state of Maine, I never seen
a moose never. I've seen white tail

628
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.280
deer, I seen black bear.
I never seen a moose never. And

629
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.639
we used to go all the way
up to the Potatoes part of Maine,

630
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:39.320
I stop in northern Maine by the
Canada line, and never seen a moose

631
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:45.079
never. And till to today,
I haven't seen a moose in person.

632
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:46.800
You know what I mean? I
mean, you know, so how you

633
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:54.039
know there's no big foots there?
You've never seen it. But it's like,

634
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:55.639
how do you know? I mean, you know what I'm saying,

635
00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.239
because just because you don't see it
and don't there there. It's like moose,

636
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.199
you know what I mean, you
know that there, but you don't

637
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.119
see it, you know. So
yeah, that's why I mean, I

638
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:13.559
try to explain to my wife,
you know. But so so what happened

639
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:20.679
was I went up to Maine and
I picked up a lot of water dot

640
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:27.760
of poland Maine and uh, I'm
we're headed back to Jersey. And I

641
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:34.239
got lucky that day because I had
to deliver and violent New Jersey to to

642
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:49.679
a grocery historical shop, right and
it's a big uh out of grocery stores,

643
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:53.519
you know what I mean. And
so I had a six am appointment.

644
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:59.480
Well, I'm coming down to Jersey
Turnpike. I get off ex to

645
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:06.360
seven Boordingtown and uh I used to
get off extra seven. I go to

646
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:08.719
wawall get my coffee, my hooghie
or you know. I mean like a

647
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:15.119
store called wah Wah has a real
popular store around my area. And uh,

648
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:22.719
I'm going down the road after we
eighty drinker coffee and I'll be tired,

649
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.440
you know. I mean, this
is like my third round. And

650
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:31.519
uh, I mean back in the
days moving there have electronic law books.

651
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.559
So I'm running the row with three
law books, because you know what I

652
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.519
mean, I'll go back and forth, back and forth, and uh,

653
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:45.480
well, anyway, I jumped off
two ninety five in Bordingtown. It's uh

654
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:52.400
the mean, howich ninety five about
a mile away from the truck stop and

655
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.719
wadwa and all that it used to
be arrested area. That's on the right

656
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:02.519
hand side, on the south wound
side. So I pulled in there and

657
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:08.159
I took out of me like an
hour nap because I had time. I

658
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:13.079
was only sixty miles away from my
hometown. So what you mean about an

659
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:21.159
hour ride? I was there,
So I wake up an hour in an

660
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.119
hour, I waked my wife up. I said, come on, we

661
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:29.400
gotta go. I jumped in the
driver's seat. I turned my lights on,

662
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.960
I turned my material lights on,
and I'm doing my law book real

663
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:40.880
quick. And my wife was still
in the bunk and she's putting her shoes

664
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:49.480
on. And I just happened to
look up and on the right side of

665
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:58.239
the rest area, I saw something
running very very very very very fast.

666
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.880
It was on my right, it
was very sores my left, and I

667
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:12.840
thought it was gonna go across the
highway. And what I saw was about

668
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:19.639
eight to nine feet tall. It
was only thirty yards away from the front

669
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.519
of my truck. Well, I
popped my head out because I was doing

670
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:28.639
my law book. I had my
book on my life on my lap.

671
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.440
I'm drawing the lines on the law
book and doing my numbers and all that.

672
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:37.000
And I looked up and I've seen
this thing running. And then,

673
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.400
like I said, it was it
was very very tall, eight nine ft

674
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:45.559
tall. But the way it was
running, it was so fast. But

675
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:51.559
you know when you dog or you're
running that your head bops up and down.

676
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:55.440
You know what I mean, when
you run. If you see somebody

677
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.480
running, the head goes up and
down, you know what I mean,

678
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:05.159
as they're running. This thing wasn't
doing that. This thing looked like it

679
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:12.480
was on a skateboard going across the
parking lot doing like sixty mile an hour

680
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:17.880
because it was smooth. He was
like it was on the ice skates,

681
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:25.639
smooth going across the parking lot.
My headlights hit it, and like I

682
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:30.039
said, it was like thirty I
said, about thirty thirty five yards away

683
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.360
from my truck. And you mean
I was driving a Peter boat at the

684
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:38.280
time. I was at three seventy
nine and I was kind of, you

685
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:43.199
know, right there, and I've
seen this thing and I said it.

686
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.039
My wife's, yo, you see
this. I told you they're here.

687
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:50.599
And she's like, what are you
talking about. I said, pig foot

688
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.199
just right across the truck. She
said, you're crazy, and she said

689
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.719
you're tired. I said, no, I asked, you said? And

690
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.400
then when it ran across the parking
lot and it that's my truck, like

691
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:06.639
towards it, like it was going
towards the highway. It kind of jumped,

692
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:12.880
but it turned towards me in the
air and it landed in the ditch.

693
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.840
And I just stood there, and
I'm arguing with my wife. I

694
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.800
said, you had to see that, and you mean and you mean I'm

695
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:27.360
arguing whether. I said, if
you wasn't so damn slow put your shoes

696
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.119
off, you would have been in
the front seat and you would have seen

697
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:32.800
it. And she said, I
didn't see nothing. I said, well,

698
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:40.280
guess what. I've seen it again
and so on. But do you

699
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:46.159
know the spotlights of the police cars
have Okay, I had one on my

700
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:52.119
truck, so I turned it on. I turned it towards the highway,

701
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:57.239
like down to this ditch. I
put the truck at first gear and I

702
00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:01.639
let it roll real slow. Ever
seen nothing. So I don't know whether

703
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:08.639
right across the highway on the northbound
side, or it was behind trees and

704
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:14.079
I couldn't see it, but I
showed my spotlight and never see nothing.

705
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.719
But I did see it running across
the parking lot, and I'm telling you,

706
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:24.199
it was like it was on the
ice skates. The head was above

707
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:30.679
in it was so like smooth.
It was like, I can't explain it,

708
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.239
but it was like it was like
on a skateboard going across. It

709
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.000
wasn't going up and down, you
know what I mean. Like when people

710
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.880
run, the head goes up and
down and you see the shoulders going up

711
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:45.119
and down. This thing wasn't doing. This thing was smooth. It was

712
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:49.599
like it was like it was like
on a skateboard, or it looked like

713
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:52.960
it was on the ice skates.
But it was coming across the parking lot

714
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:59.000
quick and it was running fast,
and I never see nobody ever run that

715
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:04.440
damn fast, you know what I
mean. And but the way when it

716
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:09.760
jumped into the ditch, it kind
of turned towards me and it landed and

717
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:14.519
kept going, and that's when you
know. I mean, I freaked out.

718
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.039
I was like, like, you
know, holy ess. I was

719
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:21.159
like, you know, I'm telling
about why did you see that? Did

720
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.440
you see that? She said no, I didn't see nothing, and she's

721
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.840
like, it probably was a bear. I said, there's no way in

722
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:34.559
hell this thing was a bear.
I know what a bear. A bear

723
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.400
do not move like that. I
don't care if a million people tell me

724
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:40.760
that was a bear. I will
deny it. That was not a bear.

725
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.960
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726
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:54.920
I know that wor fact it wasn't
a bear. I know that, I

727
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:59.079
know what bears look like. I'm
not stupid, you know what I mean.

728
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.960
So when I left, I was
I was, I was like up,

729
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:08.719
you know what I mean, Like, I couldn't sleep. When I

730
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:13.320
got to Violin, unloaded my trailer, I went back to the yard,

731
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:19.320
I parked the truck and trailer and
I went home. I usually crash,

732
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:21.239
you know, I mean, because
I'm tired, you know what I mean,

733
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.880
Because I only I just drove six
tehund miles in like twenty four hour

734
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:30.760
period, and I mean I was
tired and I couldn't sleep. I couldn't

735
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.679
eat. All I did was smoke
circles and drink coffee. I was thinking

736
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.199
about this is it going through my
mind over and over and over and over,

737
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.119
and I'm telling, oh, I
just saying it was a bear.

738
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:44.000
Now it wasn't a bear. A
bear, don't run like that, you

739
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.760
know what I mean? You know, but that was that was account and

740
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.880
that was at that time. That
was the third encounter. That was the

741
01:02:54.960 --> 01:03:00.239
closest one that I had eyesight,
you know what I'm saying, Like know

742
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:05.639
what I mean that that I saw
with my eyes and you know, and

743
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.000
since I was like said, thirty
thirty five yards, so you know,

744
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:20.679
that was sixty miles away from my
hometown, violent north of me. And

745
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.280
if you and if you talk about
Warring State farest let mean the pine barrens.

746
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:31.800
It's only from where I go to
Warren State Forest and there's probably violent

747
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:38.559
though, uh you know, thirty
miles away, you know what I mean,

748
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:40.800
if you went up to H six, it would be like thirty miles

749
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:45.039
away to Bordentown. Let me let
me tell, let me to that rest

750
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:51.480
area. So you know, about
twenty five thirty miles away. So now

751
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:57.000
I'm thinking, Okay, Violin to
Barrenttown and then all the stories I heard

752
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.920
of Warren State Forest. That's like
a little triangle, like a sixty mile

753
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:04.360
triangle. Like you know, I'm
trying to say, you know what I

754
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.639
mean, Yeah, yeah, I
got you. Yeah, so you know

755
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:13.719
I'm thinking this area here, and
I mean, and it's not like you

756
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.639
know, I was tired, Yes, I was tired. I admit I

757
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:18.719
was tired. Like I said,
I mean, I used to go hard

758
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.199
as a truck driver, you know
what I mean. I was the guy

759
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:26.280
who overnight at Florida or you know
what I mean. You know, but

760
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:31.320
when I took an hour and nap, I was good. I was good

761
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.400
to get home, you know.
But I saw this they running across.

762
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:41.639
It just happened. I just lifted
up my head and looked, and my

763
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:45.159
headlights and all my market lights were
all on the truck, and I saw

764
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:54.320
this thing running across and I just
blew my mind. And then on my

765
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:58.199
way home, like like I said, I'm about sixty miles away from my

766
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:01.559
hometown, I'm margin with my my
wife. I was like, you gotta

767
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.480
let me be a little quicker,
you know what I mean. And you

768
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:09.400
know what I mean, I'm telling
her what I've seen, and she's saying,

769
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.440
it's a bear. Not to see
there a bear? You know,

770
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:15.599
I know what a bear looks like, you know, so you know it's

771
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.039
just like everything's always a bear,
and this is worth the bed, you

772
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:23.400
know what I mean. And I'm
saying to myself, I give me,

773
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:27.639
and give me. I'm arguing with
my wife and you know. So that's

774
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.239
how that went. Stag When you
when you had a visual, did you

775
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:38.000
notice anything weird about the eyes at
all, anything that stood out? That's

776
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.800
the one thing. I don't see. No eye. Okay, I saw

777
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:50.039
the thing. I saw the body, and the eyes were black because when

778
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:57.119
my headlights hit it when it jumped
into the ditch, it turned towards me

779
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:03.559
as I was jumping into the ditch, so his right leg would have landed

780
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:13.519
first into the ditch when my head
lights hid it and he turned or I

781
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.360
saw the black eyes. I didn't
see yellow. I didn't see green,

782
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:21.559
I didn't see red. It was
just black eyes. This thing was tall,

783
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:29.760
so I know it wasn't some idiot
in a monkey suit, because I

784
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:32.840
never seen somebody eight nine feet tall. You know what I'm trying to say.

785
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:38.239
I mean, this thing was tall, and it wasn't like a bodybuilder.

786
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:43.679
That's another thing too. It was
like it was like real skinny.

787
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.280
Everybody always talked about the real skinny
ones that kind of look like a basketball

788
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:55.639
player. But this was more skinnier
than a basketball player. But it was

789
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:02.480
tall, so you know. But
I mean, I didn't see no eyeshinker

790
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.960
when my head lights hit it.
I just see no eyeshiner or nothing.

791
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:13.199
All I saw was brought through the
black eyes. The face was covered in

792
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:18.519
hair, black from head to toe. This thing was covered in hair,

793
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:23.599
and it was tall, and it
was lanky. That's the word I want

794
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.920
to use, lanky, you know. I mean, it wasn't as big

795
01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:31.800
as a basketball player, but it
was tall as a basketball player, gotcha.

796
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:38.039
You know what I was thinking of
myself? Man, this thing must

797
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:41.599
have missed a couple of meals,
because this thing wasn't like you know,

798
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:47.480
everybody talks about the three four football
with shoulders and you know what I mean,

799
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:53.960
big barrel chests and all that sudden. This wasn't like that. Like,

800
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.679
give me, this wasn't like that. This one I seen was tall

801
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:02.840
and lanky, but he was fast. This thing was fast if he was

802
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:13.079
chasing you, you wouldn't have a
chance. I'm thinking if the way this

803
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:18.279
thing moved, he was so fast
that if you were out in the middle

804
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:23.479
of the woods and you had your
rifle in your hand, I think he

805
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:27.479
would have got to you before you
even raised your rifle. That's how fast

806
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:31.199
this thing was. I just blew
my mind. I'd never seen nothing that

807
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:36.039
fast. I think, like cheetahs
and tigers and stuff on TV. This

808
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.600
thing was moving fast, you know, And give me that just brew my

809
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.640
mind, you know, I mean
I was, I wasn't scared. I

810
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:51.119
was more excited than scared of what
I saw. Absolutely, but I couldn't

811
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:58.319
believe because I couldn't believe how fast
this thing was moving, you know what

812
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.640
I mean. It's just you know, I just you know, I mean,

813
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.039
it just blew my mind. It
just blew my mind. What kind

814
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.960
of have you ever thought to yourself? You know, what kind of creature

815
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:13.079
are are we dealing with? Here? Like? How is it you explained

816
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.159
it? Do you explain it more
as like a big ape or maybe a

817
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:30.600
forgotten relative or I hear a lot
people say ape. I hear a lot

818
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:36.479
of people say human. I hear
a lot of people say these things come

819
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:45.279
from space, and I don't believe
that one bit. While I've seen that

820
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:51.920
day at thirty five yards from my
truck with my lights hitting it, this

821
01:09:53.159 --> 01:10:00.239
thing was human, more human.
I'll put it to you this way.

822
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:09.199
If they ever get one of these
things and put it on a slab,

823
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:16.159
they're going to come up with this
is the third type of tribe in America.

824
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:21.960
This thing was human. The face
when this thing turned at me,

825
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:28.680
and I saw the face because I'm
telling you my on my head lights that's

826
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:34.720
hitting this thing, this is human
with hair all over it. I believe

827
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:41.439
this is that these creatures are human. I know people always say ape or

828
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:46.640
half ape, half human these things. In my eyes my opinion what I

829
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:54.319
see this thing's human or more human
with something else. I don't know,

830
01:10:55.119 --> 01:11:00.479
but I'll put it to you this
way. And I see one and I'm

831
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:05.079
in my tree stand, I couldn't
shoot it. There's no way possible I

832
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:11.079
could shoot it. The only way
that I would shoot something like this is

833
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.399
if it was attacking me, my
pets, or my wife and then he's

834
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.880
going to meet Jesus. But if
I'm in a tree stand and it's walking

835
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:26.119
by, I can't shoot it because
in my mind, that's a human,

836
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:34.520
some kind of human, and I've
seen it up close and personal in my

837
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:40.439
truck. Now, the last encounter
that I'm gonna tell you, I was

838
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:45.239
on my motorcycle and this is two
years ago. I had a big Yamaha,

839
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:50.720
but a big bikes for the pharynx, and I'd like to write at

840
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:58.520
nighttime. This is about one o'clock
in the morning. They have built a

841
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:02.720
brand new truck stuff. And this
is on Garden Road. If you look

842
01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:09.119
it up on Google, you'll see
Garden Road and across this route fifty five.

843
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:16.359
If you if you're looking on Google, you'll see that old abandoned airport

844
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:23.000
and all the warehouses back in the
industrial park. And you'll see the warehouse

845
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:27.479
where like I had the howling screen
that was coming at me. That's all

846
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:31.439
in the same area, just maybe
half a mile maybe three quarters of a

847
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:35.199
mile away from each other. Well, I was on my bike and I

848
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:39.720
like going through the woods were not
the wood but you know, I was

849
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:45.800
on blacktop and I'm riding. I'm
passing the trucks up on my right handside.

850
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:50.760
As like I said, there's trucks
are not even rolled and I'm on

851
01:12:50.880 --> 01:13:00.600
my bike and there was still building
most of the parking lot, because half

852
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:04.800
of the parking lot was done like
for truck parking, and they were working

853
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:12.399
on the other side. So I'm
riding and I never told this one to

854
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:20.279
my wife, but I'm riding my
bike and I'm doing about thirty five forty

855
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:25.239
mile an hour. Because it's doctor
Rose, I'm looking for deer jumping out

856
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:28.520
in front of me. So I
mean, I wasn't going too fast.

857
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:35.359
I'm riding. I got the high
beams on my bike, and what I

858
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:44.840
seen, what I thought it was. I thought that when they were clearing

859
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:51.640
the land, they got these they
got these tree trunks. And what I

860
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:58.279
was thinking, I must have fell
off of a dump truck and landed on

861
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.359
the side of the road. Half
of it was on the road and half

862
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:09.199
of it was on the shoulder.
So I slowed down. I get about

863
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:16.800
twenty yards from this thing and it
wasn't a tree truck. I stopped.

864
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:23.600
I stopped the bike and like,
what the helth is this? Right?

865
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:31.159
This thing stood up, had a
deer under his arms. It kind of

866
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:41.880
turned I'm thinking, like from the
waist up it kind of turned at me.

867
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:48.880
Looked at me and ran across the
street into the woods. But when

868
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:56.439
this thing stood up, my legs
turned the jello. And I'm riding a

869
01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:03.479
motorcycles like nine hundred pounds, and
I'm thinking to myself, what the f

870
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:12.039
and I froze. My legs were
jello. My arms felt like jello,

871
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:17.960
and I swore I was going to
drop my bike right there. But this

872
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:25.840
thing, as like I said,
had turned, looked at me, had

873
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:33.479
a doll under its right arm,
looked at me. He did a little

874
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:40.000
growl, and he ran into the
woods. And I didn't see it no

875
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:44.680
more. And I stood there.
I couldn't turn. I was so scared.

876
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:49.319
I couldn't turn my bike around to
making you turn. I couldn't go

877
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:53.640
forward because I didn't know it was
there. You know what I'm trying to

878
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:58.159
say. I just stood there for
about ten minutes, and I didn't know

879
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.720
what to do. And I said
it myself. I'm here, I'm not

880
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:05.960
moving, my biker's running, my
lefs are on, and this thing comes

881
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:10.520
out of the woods. I'm not
gonna be able to control my bike.

882
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:15.479
I'm gonna die right here. This
is it, This is done. I

883
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:18.640
was twenty yards away for this thing
when I came to a complete stop,

884
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:24.520
and when it turned, I didn't
see no monkey face. I hadn't seen

885
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:30.479
a gorilla face. I saw a
human face, kind of like an Indian

886
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.039
face. That's what I see.
And I see these twenty yards away.

887
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:38.640
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888
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:48.520
And I wear glasses when I ride
my motorcycle. And I got these these

889
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:57.680
type of glasses. They're like goggles, but they have do mean my my

890
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:04.720
prescription from my eyesight on these goggles. And I saw this thing up and

891
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:11.760
personal. That was the closest encounter
and my last encounter. That was my

892
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:15.680
last encounter. That's why I say
these things are human. But when this

893
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:20.119
thing turned around, it showed teeth. I didn't see no fangs. I

894
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:25.319
didn't see no monkey face. I
didn't see no gorilla face. I saw

895
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.840
eyes, nose in the mouth like
a human being. But much much,

896
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:38.800
but dream bigger. And I came
back at home. Well, no,

897
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:45.800
after I got myself together, I
kind of walked my bike into a U

898
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:51.239
turn because I'm telling my legs are
still jello. And I went to that

899
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:56.640
convenience story Walwatan when I was telling
you earlier. I got a coffee.

900
01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:05.279
I sat on the on the GI
me like to GI mean, I got

901
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:10.159
to parking lot, you know what
I mean. And I'm drinking my coffee.

902
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:15.119
I was shaking that my cup was
shaking and I had to hold my

903
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:19.720
coffee with two hands in order for
me to drink it. My cigarette,

904
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:25.199
I lit up a cigarette and I
could hardly light my cigarette up. I

905
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:30.920
was had to do that with two
hands too. So and I mean,

906
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:35.039
I'm sitting there, I'm sitting up
by my bike, and I'm talking to

907
01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:39.800
God. Why are you doing this
to me? Why are you doing this

908
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:45.479
to This happens since I was a
teenager until now. Why are you doing

909
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:49.319
this to me? And give me? That's why I kept telling myself.

910
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:55.119
I'm I'm actually talking to God.
Why are you doing this to me?

911
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:59.880
This is your fault. Why are
you doing this? Why are you tormenting

912
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:02.479
me? You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, because you're

913
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:05.680
going through it. A billion things
are going through your mind. You go

914
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:10.760
twenty yards away from one of these
things, it's going to change your life.

915
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:15.600
If you don't believe in Jesus,
You're gonna believe in Jesus, that

916
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.199
day. You know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, it's

917
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:24.000
just that was my last encounter.
And it's like, you mean, two

918
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.199
years later, when I came home, it was a couple of hours later,

919
01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:29.560
my wife's like, where you been? I said, I want to

920
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:31.560
talk about it, And you mean, I've never told my wife I parked

921
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:38.760
my bike in the driveway. The
next morning, I told my wife put

922
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.479
it up in the internet. I
might run on my back anymore. I

923
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:46.920
sold my motorcycle and I was two
years ago. I sold my motorcycle.

924
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:53.039
I sold it and I've never been
on a motorcycle ever again. Because when

925
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:57.439
I was away from this thing at
twenty yards, I had no protection.

926
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:00.520
Nothing can protect. I have no
roof, I didn't have no door,

927
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:04.159
I didn't have anything, just me
and the bike. That scared the hell

928
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:08.520
out of me. It just scared
me so bad that I sold my bike.

929
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.079
A week later. My bike was
gone, and I never rode a

930
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:19.079
motorcycle ever again. Never that just
that messed me up. I was riding

931
01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:23.880
a motorcycle and I love riding a
motorcycle. You know what I mean,

932
01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:28.039
It's just I couldn't do it no
more. That just I mean that's you

933
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.079
know how everybody says, oh,
you shouldn't ride a motorcycle because you get

934
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:34.039
in the car accident, you got
nothing to protect you. Well, I

935
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:38.840
never thought about that, But when
I saw this thing, I'm saying to

936
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:42.640
myself, this thing could have snagged
me off this bike, and I had

937
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:48.279
nothing nothing to protect me nothing,
no doors, no roof, no windshield,

938
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:54.000
no nothing. I sold my bike
and I never rode a bike ever

939
01:20:54.079 --> 01:21:00.239
again. And it's been two years
since I wrote a motorcycle. I's how

940
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:08.119
bad this thing messed me up.
So that is wild that you actually sold

941
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:13.520
your motorcycle. It affected you so
much, motorcycle. I sold my motorcycle,

942
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.239
and I don't want a motorcycle over
again. I don't want to ride

943
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:21.119
a motorcycle. I don't. This
thing just messed me up. It's like

944
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.079
I was telling you. Everybody always
talking about, oh, you shouldn't ride

945
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.359
a motorcycle because the car accident,
you got no protection, you fall,

946
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.319
you're d I wasn't even think about
that anymore. I'm thinking about So I

947
01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:38.119
don't want to ride a motorcycle over
again because I got no protection off of

948
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:44.399
these things. This think you're ride
up against you and you're going into back

949
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:47.800
country roads. This thing will snag
you off. This is what I This

950
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:51.119
is what I had in my mind. This thing has snagged you off your

951
01:21:51.199 --> 01:22:00.920
bike and you're done because there's no
protection. This is how my my mentality

952
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:08.840
was at that time. So I
wrote a motorcycle. Where Ever, again,

953
01:22:09.479 --> 01:22:12.039
never, my wife always asked me, when we want a good bike.

954
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:15.239
Never, I don't want nothing to
do with motorcycles. I want nothing

955
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:19.239
to do with anything like me.
Get me as far as a motorcycle,

956
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:24.399
because I said, there's no protection
for these things. You stop about a

957
01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:26.520
stop sign and you're in the middle
of the road. You know what I

958
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:30.880
mean. This is what where my
mentality was. You know what I mean?

959
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.760
You know how you know how sometimes
you hear hunter goes. I don't

960
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:38.279
hunt no more. I sold my
guns. Well, this is how it

961
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:43.239
was from me with a motorcycle.
I sold my bike. I sold everything

962
01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:46.239
and I want no parts of it. And I don't know why, because

963
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:48.920
you mean I was on blacktop.
I wasn't you know what I mean,

964
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:53.359
I was on both sides of me. But you mean I was on black

965
01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:57.960
top doing give me back roads,
you know what I mean? So,

966
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:00.079
but I mean this, that's me
up, you know what I mean.

967
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:04.680
I just I didn't want no parts
of it. I throw my bike and

968
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:11.079
I never wanted to buy another one
ever. Yet, you know, I

969
01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:15.439
feel like there's got to be some
big foot researchers that check out Vineland,

970
01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:18.159
New Jersey. I mean, you
got I want to play stuff. Man,

971
01:23:19.159 --> 01:23:26.399
I'm gonna tell you, like I
tried calling it like years ago.

972
01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:32.760
I tried calling it beat RFL in
New Jersey, sure, and there was

973
01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:36.159
like nobody on the other line.
I mean, I don't even know if

974
01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:43.720
they exist, you know what I
mean. But I know, and I

975
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:50.640
know the other people, old timers, old farmers, hunters. I know

976
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:58.239
that they know that they're there because
I'm telling you, I know that I'm

977
01:23:58.279 --> 01:24:03.560
not the only one that ever seen
these things. And you mean, these

978
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:05.800
guys telling me, oh, I'll
be careful when you go out in the

979
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:10.399
woods and you go camping this,
you know, blah blah blah. You

980
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:13.720
know what I mean, make sure
you got protection and you know, just

981
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:16.479
keep an eye or just your surroundings
and stuff like that. You know,

982
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:23.439
they have to know something they just
ain't telling you, you know what I

983
01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:27.279
mean. And sometimes that kind of
aggravates me, because if you know there's

984
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:30.439
something out there, you should tell
somebody. That's you know what I mean.

985
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:36.039
So that way, like like they're
prepared and they won't get hurt or

986
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:39.840
give mean they're go missing, you
know what I mean. I mean,

987
01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:45.399
you know, it's just I don't
know. Knowledge is everything, yea,

988
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:51.359
And every night it's I was telling
you, I listened to your your podcast.

989
01:24:51.640 --> 01:25:00.600
I listen to sess watch chronicles,
I listen to but give me,

990
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:05.159
doctor Meldroom. I listened to give
me a whole lot of people. And

991
01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:11.680
I mean, you know, and
you mean I'm learning. And when I

992
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:15.800
hear stories, I stop and think
about it, and I think about my

993
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:20.439
encounters, and then I think about
their encounters. And I'm always thinking,

994
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:25.119
always thinking, always thinking. These
things are all over, you know what

995
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:29.039
I mean, They even say they're
they're down South America. You know absolutely

996
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:38.720
absolutely what you know? And then
I think about all the stories I hear

997
01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:44.640
about the government. Now, well, I wasn't finished with the last encounter

998
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.880
the lady. And you mean,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mention the

999
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:56.520
company. But I known her for
many, many years, many years,

1000
01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:08.560
and I felt comfortable talking to her. And a couple of days after this

1001
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:15.399
thing was with the motorcycle of me
and her whilst hot smoking, and I

1002
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:19.399
said, Bob, I gotta talk
to you anyway, I gotta talk to

1003
01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:24.960
you, and then she said,
yeah, go ahead. So I told

1004
01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:29.119
her what had happened to me.
And the reason why I told her was

1005
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:36.439
was because her son's a game warden
in New Jersey in our area down here,

1006
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:45.399
and I said, you know,
can you just this is what happened

1007
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:49.600
to me. I wasn't drinking,
I don't do drugs, but this is

1008
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:57.800
what happened to me. Can you
relay this story to your son since he

1009
01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:09.359
was a game warden or or is
the gate warden? And asked him if

1010
01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.880
he wants to look into it,
or if he wants to call me and

1011
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:21.479
talk to me. And a couple
of states went by and I had asked

1012
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.039
her again. I says, you
know, did you talk to your son?

1013
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:30.920
And he said yeah, he says
you're crazy, you were seeing things.

1014
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.720
He said he never seen nothing like
that, blah blah blah. And

1015
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:40.640
I left to the alone. I
never said nothing no more. I left

1016
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:46.000
to the leone and that's when I
I stopped talking about it. I was

1017
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.359
gonna tell my wife about it,
but I didn't want to after that,

1018
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:54.279
after what she told me, while
her son said, you know, I

1019
01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:58.960
don't want to talk about it,
you know. And well, that was

1020
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:01.680
up and close. It's about twenty
yards away, and I'm thinking, this

1021
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.079
is a tree truck, you know, you know how when they dig it

1022
01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:08.119
out of the ground and and then
you need to put it on the back

1023
01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:12.079
of a a dump truck or something. I'm thinking, like, this thing

1024
01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:15.680
fell up a truck and the land
on the road. So you mean I

1025
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.960
stopped. I was gonna go around
it. But before I was gonna go

1026
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:25.039
around it, the things stood up. And this was a big boy.

1027
01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:30.920
This was a big boy. And
I just don't you know what I mean.

1028
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:38.319
And I'm sitting in my truck right
now. I'm about ten minutes away

1029
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:44.399
from all this that I'm telling you, you know what I mean, except

1030
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.399
the one on two ninety five or
sixty miles away, but everything else that

1031
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:51.159
I'm telling you, I'm only ten
minutes away from it. If I jump

1032
01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:56.439
and I start my truck up right
now, I could be in those areas

1033
01:28:56.479 --> 01:29:04.520
in ten minutes. So you know, I don't know that I've seen it.

1034
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:10.039
If I've seen it, I'm pretty
sure everybody else seen it. I

1035
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:12.680
mean, my follow up told me
he's seen it, you know what I

1036
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:16.600
mean, when when he was fourteen
years old. So yeah, I mean,

1037
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:21.319
like you said, that was like
the thirties, thirty five, nineteen

1038
01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:26.720
thirty five, nineteen thirty somewhere around
there, because he was like sixty seven

1039
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:35.680
when he was telling me. So, I don't know, I just and

1040
01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:38.880
I mean, you used to upset
me too, I give me. I

1041
01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:42.840
don't know why it did, but
but it used to, you know what

1042
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.439
I mean, because every time I
hear I hear like a podcast, and

1043
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:49.279
I always talk about other states.
Nobody ever talked about Jersey. And I'm

1044
01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:53.920
saying to myself, isn't there anybody
in New Jersey? I ever seen one

1045
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:56.840
of these things? And it used
to piss me off, you know what

1046
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.880
I mean, because I know what
I see. I know what I'm going

1047
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:03.840
through. You know, I think
I smoke more cigarettes now but I did

1048
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.840
before because of this ship that happened, you know what I mean. It's

1049
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:14.319
like, you know, you know
me, and and I think I think

1050
01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:16.279
about it too much because I dream
about it sometimes. I get these dreams

1051
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:23.760
I wake up three o'clock in the
morning. Yeah, and I'm sweat And

1052
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:29.960
if my wife's to tell you,
my pillows would be silking wet. And

1053
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.199
you know, she used to have
to change the best cheese and the pillows

1054
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.840
and all that stuff because my side
of the bet would be silking wet,

1055
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:43.399
especially when I have these dreams,
I mean of these things. So I

1056
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:48.600
don't know if I have ps what
they call it, PSTD or or whatever

1057
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:51.600
you mean, I don't know.
I don't know, like if I had

1058
01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:56.560
that, because I never talked to
anybody about it, not even a strict

1059
01:30:56.680 --> 01:31:00.760
or my doctor. But you know, I don't know. I get these

1060
01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:04.199
bad dreams about stuff like that.
You know a lot of people do get

1061
01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:11.239
PTSD from encounters that that is definitely
a real thing. Swamp dog for sure.

1062
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:15.119
Yeah. So you know, well, you mean I still go into

1063
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:18.800
woods, I still bowl hunt,
and you know what, this is another

1064
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:24.640
thing too. You know, I'm
I'm not the guy that goes through a

1065
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:29.600
bud A dealership and you have to
buy a new geeb or you know,

1066
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:32.600
buy a new truck. I'm the
guy that buys the twenty three year old

1067
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:38.239
truck and I like to build my
truck, and I like to build it

1068
01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:42.279
so it would last in the middle
of the woods and all that stuff.

1069
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:46.680
I make my own bumpers. I
don't order bumpers. The only thing I

1070
01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:51.279
order on my truck is my suspension
with for tires and wheels. When I

1071
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:59.800
make a bumper, and when I
build a bumper, I build this bumper.

1072
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:02.600
And when I'm thinking when I'm building
this bumper, I want to build

1073
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:09.439
this bumper that's strong enough that if
I remember going through a trail and I

1074
01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:13.920
run into one of these things,
I want that bumper and my friend into

1075
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:18.600
my truck to last. I want
no damage. Is so like a lot

1076
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:21.119
of times my friends be like,
yo, man, you building a bumper.

1077
01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:24.039
Kind of over killed, don't you
think? I said, well,

1078
01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:27.159
there's reasons to see you know what
I mean? And you know I mean,

1079
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.800
but like, but everything I do, when it's building the bumper,

1080
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:39.600
frug her back, it's for this
creature. It's weird. If I'm building

1081
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:43.760
something on my truck, I'm building
it. I tried to do it like

1082
01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:46.880
a big foot proof, you know
what I mean. It makes sense,

1083
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.920
and it's crazy that I shouldn't be
thinking like this, but I do think

1084
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:56.600
like this is how I think,
Like you know, I mean, like

1085
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:00.800
you know, and it's it's weird. But this is how I think.

1086
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:05.399
I brought my truck for bigfoot proof. You know what I mean. If

1087
01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:11.119
I'm gonna build the rocaides, you
know what I mean, I built for

1088
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:14.439
bigfoot proof. You know what I
mean. And it's it's weird, and

1089
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:16.000
you know what I mean, it's
kind of messed up. I think you

1090
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.479
know what I mean. I mean, you know, because I do everything

1091
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:23.720
overkill, like my front bumper,
my back bumper, my rock slidders on

1092
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:28.399
the side of my truck at the
bottom. Everything is bigfoot proof. And

1093
01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:33.079
I go overkill on steel pipe,
whatever, my well dings, my wells,

1094
01:33:33.199 --> 01:33:42.479
everything. And you know, now
I moved into Tennessee, Eastern Tennessee.

1095
01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:47.119
I have bought property out there.
I don't want to mention where where

1096
01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:51.560
you mean I bought property, but
it's up in the mountains eastern Tennessee.

1097
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:57.520
And like I told my wife the
other day, I'm gonna be honest with

1098
01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:00.359
it. This is what I told
her. Fifty percent of the reason why

1099
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:04.319
I bought this property up in the
mountains, it's because of big Foot,

1100
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:10.920
and the other fifty percent why I
bought this that piece of property on the

1101
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:15.439
side of the mountain is for us. And she looked at me. She

1102
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.640
because you're serious. I say,
yes, I'm serious, you know what

1103
01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:24.640
I mean? And then you know, she's starting to come around and she

1104
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:27.520
started to think, you know what
this guy's telling her the truth? You

1105
01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:30.239
know what I mean. I mean, I never told her why I sold

1106
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:35.680
my bike because I was I was
kind of afraid to tell her why.

1107
01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:40.760
But you mean, I never told
her, which I know she's gonna know

1108
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:44.159
now if you put this on your
podcast, you know what I mean.

1109
01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:48.399
But but then she's gonna know why. You know what I mean. But

1110
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.119
I mean, I never told her. I never told her anybody. You're

1111
01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:56.199
the first one and only one that
I told why I sold my bike.

1112
01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:03.119
That was too years ago. The
Eastern Tennessee property. Have you done research

1113
01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:08.600
tend to see if they're reportings on
that property or you just had a good

1114
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:14.479
idea that you were in the right
area. Well, listening to other encounters

1115
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:21.479
Eastern Tennessee, around the Kentucky area
and all that, I kind of got

1116
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:29.199
an idea. And then I started
looking into it, and they had where

1117
01:35:29.359 --> 01:35:39.439
I bought my property. They had
four encounters in that town. I'm not

1118
01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:44.159
saying all my property, but like
I mean, in that town, they

1119
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:47.239
have four encounters because I googled it. I don't want to say the name

1120
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:54.000
of the town, you know what
I mean. And but but that what

1121
01:35:54.199 --> 01:36:00.079
I bought property in Tennessee. Fifty
percent of that reason why I bought that

1122
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:06.880
property was because Bigfoot. Now I
want to get down and dirty, you

1123
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:10.800
know what I'm trying to say.
I don't want to say that I want

1124
01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:15.159
to be a researcher or anything like
that, but I don't know. Just

1125
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:19.800
I want to get down and dirty
with this creature. I'm gonna say killing

1126
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:25.600
it or anything, you know,
But I'm just saying I want to.

1127
01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.640
I want to. I cannot put
it. I want to be like you,

1128
01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:42.800
a close or I want to be
around of all this feels like you

1129
01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:45.680
want the truth. You're trying to
figure out the truth. Well, I

1130
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:53.439
know the truth. I've seen the
truth, sure, But I just I

1131
01:36:53.479 --> 01:36:55.520
don't know. I just can't explain
it. You know what I mean,

1132
01:36:56.840 --> 01:37:00.760
the reason why? But I mean
I both this probably like I said,

1133
01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:05.800
you know what I mean, how
the reasoning is because of this creature.

1134
01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:11.359
I want to know more about this
creature. I want to know everything about

1135
01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:15.359
this creature. I want to know
everything. When I was on my back

1136
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:20.920
and this thing turned around and looked
at me, that thing looked human.

1137
01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:28.800
I don't care what anybody in this
country says, Oh they looked like gorillas,

1138
01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.359
they look like apes, they look
does this? That thing looked human.

1139
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:39.680
And I know it's part human or
I don't know, three quarters human

1140
01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.039
and a quart of something else.
But this thing was human. This thing

1141
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:55.880
looked at me. It kind of
at growled. The way he opened his

1142
01:37:56.039 --> 01:38:00.880
mouth and he looked at me.
It's like, what the app are you

1143
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:05.640
looking at? That's what his eyes
was telling me, What the app are

1144
01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:11.720
you looking at? And he took
off with the deer under his arm,

1145
01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:19.359
and that right there, you know, And I got told you. I

1146
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:26.439
went back to I went, I
went to that convenience store. I got

1147
01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:30.479
my coffee, lit up a cigarette. I'm talking to God, Why are

1148
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:32.479
you doing this to me? Why
are you doing this to me? Why

1149
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:36.880
are you tormenting me? You know
what I'm saying, Like, you know,

1150
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:41.439
that's some moments where you talk to
God. That was one of my

1151
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:45.600
moments, you know, asking him
why he's doing this to me. You

1152
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:50.439
know, that's I thought it was. You know, I get to swat

1153
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:55.720
diet. It feels like your story
is just beginning. Really once you moved

1154
01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:59.800
on to Tennessee. I think I
think things are gonna get pretty wild for

1155
01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:04.760
you. Yeah. You know the
really thord that I talked to do you

1156
01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:09.800
mean I dealt with when I bought
my property. You know, her husband

1157
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:14.760
hunts a lot and stuff, and
and you mean, I was asking her

1158
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:19.359
what kind of wild animals we have
out there and you know, and all

1159
01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:24.600
that stuff. And she was telling
me, and you know, and I'm

1160
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:26.880
like, oh, that's good,
that's what I like to hunt this and

1161
01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:30.720
that, blah blah blah. And
I kind of made a joke with her.

1162
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.119
I said, I hope there ain't
no big foot on the property.

1163
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:38.319
Let me just joking around with her. And she's like never No. I

1164
01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:44.239
was like, okay, you never
know that, You'll never know She said

1165
01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:48.920
something. Yeah, she knows something, yep, yep. So you know

1166
01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:55.600
that's just it's like, I don't
know, that's the way. Yeah,

1167
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:59.680
that last time there was a guy
we talking to God moment, I was

1168
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:03.159
him why and you know what I
mean, And it's like I don't know,

1169
01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:14.520
but from what I've seen, how
how these things act, what I've

1170
01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:21.520
seen, I believe these things are
more human than anything else. Now,

1171
01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:26.520
you mean I hear they. I
hear these guys talk about they that they

1172
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:30.199
came out of a spaceship. And
I don't believe that this is a flesh

1173
01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:38.359
and blood I say person, because
that's what I seen, just hair all

1174
01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:42.760
over it, you know what I
mean. That's that's what I've seen.

1175
01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:47.520
And I mean that's I will stick
with that. I'll tell I see someone.

1176
01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:54.439
It was like a monkey or a
Nate, the single human. And

1177
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:58.560
you mean I was talking about why
I said these things are human. I

1178
01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:01.920
can't shoot one if I'm open to
tree stand or if I'm on the groundbline,

1179
01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:06.079
I couldn't shoot one. The only
way that I would shoot one it

1180
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:11.279
was harming my family or my animals. And like I said, don't meet

1181
01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:18.720
Jesus, that's guaranteed. But I
couldn't shoot one just to shoot one,

1182
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:20.840
you know what I mean. I
just couldn't do it. There's no way.

1183
01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:27.439
I hear you, I hear you, Swant Doug Man. It has

1184
01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:31.680
been an incredible conversation with you.
I'm so glad that you you contacted me

1185
01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:36.800
because this has been incredible. Thank
you. Yeah. I just I mean,

1186
01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:39.920
it's like I was telling you earlier, you know. I mean I

1187
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.880
I listened to your shows all the
time, every night, every night,

1188
01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:45.479
every night, you know. I
mean, like, you know, two

1189
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:49.960
or three shows at night I listened
to. And it's like I was telling

1190
01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:55.720
you, a lot of these guys
that have these podcast shows, it's like

1191
01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:05.960
like they know everything and like,
I don't know, it's just I'm not

1192
01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:11.199
gonna try to say they're cocky or
something or but they act like they know

1193
01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:14.680
it all and they know everything.
And you know, I mean, all

1194
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:18.159
these guys are doing wood knocks and
all this other stuff. That stuff don't

1195
01:42:18.199 --> 01:42:23.680
work. If you're going out there
looking for one, you'll never find one.

1196
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:30.039
Every encounter that I had, every
time I heard one, I never

1197
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:35.520
was looking for one. And all
these guys going in the woods, they're

1198
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:41.560
howling and whooping and doing three knocks, They're never going to find one.

1199
01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:47.840
These things are intelligent. For this
thing to stand up with a deer under

1200
01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:53.760
his arm, turn around at me
and he was looking like, what the

1201
01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:59.119
app are you looking at? And
he ran. This thing's smart, like

1202
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.079
you know what I mean, They're
not like a bear, you know,

1203
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:05.039
I mean, because the bear would
have just stayed there, or you mean,

1204
01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:10.720
Kyle would have just stayed there.
You know what I mean. This

1205
01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:16.199
thing took off and it knew I
was scared. I had a feeling that

1206
01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:25.840
this this last time. It knew
that I was scared, and he knew

1207
01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:33.600
I wasn't gonna do nothing. It
was like it was like he was head

1208
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:38.720
hacho and he and he knew he
was the ship. You know what I'm

1209
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:45.039
trying to say, Like you know
about yeah, and you know it just

1210
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:47.920
it's just accuracy with people say like
oh, like God give me. Like

1211
01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:54.920
the other day I heard I heard
somebody saying that they saw these orbs going

1212
01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:59.640
through the woods and inside the orb
they saw it book book face. You

1213
01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:03.800
can't me, I don't think so
you know, that's kind of stuff that

1214
01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:06.720
that kind of upsets me, you
know what I mean, because I don't

1215
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:11.520
know what they're joking about this this
issue or what. I don't know.

1216
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:16.439
But you know, I mean when
I can't say that didn't happen because I

1217
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:21.880
wasn't there, but I saw these
things up and close. Like I said,

1218
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:25.720
the last two times, I've seen
it up and close. This is

1219
01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:30.479
not no spaceship. I don't care
what anybody says. This is more human

1220
01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:40.079
than anything. And the eyes,
it's like I said, I've never seen

1221
01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:45.720
no eyeshine. When I was on
my bike, I didn't see no eyeshine.

1222
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:49.199
I saw black eyes. And when
I was in my truck and I

1223
01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:54.399
looked up and I've seen this one
running across the parking lot, I didn't

1224
01:44:54.399 --> 01:45:00.680
see no eyeshine. It had black
eyes. The hands, the hands were

1225
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:09.000
like my hands, but three or
four times bigger than my hands. Everybody's

1226
01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:12.399
talking about like a catcher's net.
I think it was bigger than a catcher's

1227
01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:18.239
met. This thing was huge.
And I was saying myself, this thing

1228
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:23.720
I ever grassed somebody. That's it. They're done, you know what I

1229
01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:30.920
mean? You know, but I
don't know. I just that's I don't

1230
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:32.199
know what I was cursed with this, you know. I mean, I

1231
01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:40.399
don't know. But eighty nine was
the first year I see one. As

1232
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.279
the last time I've seen it was
like two years ago. I don't think

1233
01:45:44.319 --> 01:45:46.840
it's the last time either. If
you're headed to East Tennessee, man,

1234
01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:51.920
yeah, yeah, I know that's
what you think you know what I mean.

1235
01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:58.920
Yeah, I mean, you know
and like you know right now right

1236
01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:04.920
because it's kind of funny because I'm
mostly but I'm mostly both hunt. But

1237
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:16.199
then now i'm looking at since i'm
moving to that area I'm looking at I'm

1238
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:19.479
looking at big guns, you know
what I mean, fifty caliber, you

1239
01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:27.760
know what I'm saying. I'm thinking, this is what I need. If

1240
01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:32.199
I'm on my property and I come
across one of these things and it's you're

1241
01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:38.359
men trying to harm us, I
need a fifty caliber. I don't know.

1242
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:42.239
I don't know. I'm a forty
seven is going to do it.

1243
01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:46.359
I don't know. You know what
I mean. I've seen him like like

1244
01:46:46.479 --> 01:46:50.199
on videos. I've seen him knocked
down brown bears and grizzly bears, you

1245
01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:57.359
know what I mean. But I
gotta get me a fifty caliber. I

1246
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:00.800
even looked up how much the box
of pullets for. That's something her ninety

1247
01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:04.600
five dollars for a box of bullets
for a fifty caliber, you know what

1248
01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:12.159
I mean. It sounds investment for
sure, But yeah, yeah, this

1249
01:47:12.359 --> 01:47:15.239
is how I'm thinking. This is
how I'm telling you. I'm thinking this

1250
01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:19.319
way. Everything I do, I
think about this creature, like from my

1251
01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:24.119
truck all to my property. What
kind of handguns do I need? What

1252
01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:28.439
kind of rifle will put this thing
down if it comes at me? If

1253
01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:31.760
I'm on my property and I'm in
a tree stand and this thing's coming at

1254
01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:36.880
me, What do I need to
put this thing down before it, like

1255
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:42.239
it gets to me? You know
what I mean? These are the things

1256
01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:44.399
that go through my head. You
know what I mean, Like you know

1257
01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:46.880
what I'm saying, Like you mean, I'm just I'm trying to prepare myself,

1258
01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:51.399
you know. And you my wife, you know, she's she started,

1259
01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:56.840
uh like I mean, she knows
this is no joke, you know

1260
01:47:56.880 --> 01:48:00.479
what I mean. And it's just
it's like, I don't know, this

1261
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:03.920
is a part of my lot.
I guess her eyes are starting to get

1262
01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:11.199
open for sure. Yeah yeah yeah, swamp talk. Thank you, Yeah,

1263
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:15.479
thank you so much for contacting me
again, Like this has been awesome.

1264
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:20.680
Please keep in touch with I mean, you're going to have further interactions.

1265
01:48:20.760 --> 01:48:25.920
I just know it being in that
area. But you know, man,

1266
01:48:26.199 --> 01:48:29.640
I just want to thank you for
what you do. I want to

1267
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:35.560
thank you for everything that you do
and everything you do and all the learning

1268
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:41.279
that we're all doing out here,
and it's like I said, I would

1269
01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:44.920
like to listen to you because,
like to me, you're just one of

1270
01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:46.760
the good old boys. It's not
you know what I mean this All the

1271
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:54.680
podcasts are like it seems to me
they're looking for stardom. You're just looking

1272
01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:57.640
for the truth. I'm just trying
to figure it out along with you,

1273
01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:00.279
you know what I mean. I
appreciate that. I feel that. Yeah,

1274
01:49:00.840 --> 01:49:04.479
all right, brother, I will
stop you later. And do you

1275
01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:08.920
mean any questions I'm here, you
know. I mean like I said,

1276
01:49:09.079 --> 01:49:14.760
but you're a Bigfoot Society art goal
is to provide a platform for those that

1277
01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:19.800
have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter
in a safe and respected environment. But

1278
01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:25.359
we need to hear your story.
If you've experienced something that you just can't

1279
01:49:25.399 --> 01:49:30.680
explain, please send me an email
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1280
01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:35.319
Then we can start the conversation.
And I know a lot of you have

1281
01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:42.520
not shared your encounter at all.
It's been twenty years and it's time that

1282
01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:45.439
you get this off your chest and
then you can get some well deserved for

1283
01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:49.880
rest, because I know you haven't
been sleeping. I understand what you're going

1284
01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.520
through, and I appreciate every one
of you listening