Terrifying Tales from the Trail: Bigfoot's Grip on Northern Georgia

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode, I talked to Amanda,

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who shares the Bigfoot encounters she has
both experienced and heard in the Blue Ridge,

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Georgia area. If you have experienced
something similar to what Amanda has,

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or have more information regarding Bigfoot or
other cryptids in the same area, please

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reach out immediately to me after this
episode. Remember, your encounter could be

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the key to unlocking this mystery once
and for all, so please don't hesitate

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to contact me at Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com. All right, Bigfoot

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Society, I'm talking to Amanda Stowers
tonight. She is an employee at the

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Expedition Bigfoot Museum down there in northern
Georgia, and it's a pleasure to get

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to talk to you tonight. Amanda, I hear you're also known as the

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Bigfoot Lady, right, Yes,
sir, that is correct. Yeah.

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I just recently started using that nickname. My husband actually gave it to me

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recently because everybody always asks, Hey, isn't your wife the lady who works

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at the Bigfoot Museum. Oh?
Yeah, my wife, it's the Bigfoot

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Lady. You should go talk to
her. So I just ran with the

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name and decided it made a good
PERSONA. So here I am Amanda the

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Bigfoot Lady. That is fantastic.
I love it. It's a perfect nickname

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for someone who's going to work at
the museum there. I've already talked to

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your boss, mister Bakera and listeners
definitely want to hit that episode after this

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one. But before we talk about
the museum for a little bit, I

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got to ask you, Amanda,
so did Bigfoot come first for you or

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was it working at the museum and
then you got into a Bigfoot after that?

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It would definitely be before. Growing
up here in the mountains of Appalasia,

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you'd hear crazy stories most of your
life growing up from my dad and

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my grandparents and just general old timers
as we would call them. Have plenty

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of stories of things that go bump
in the night and don't staying out late

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after dark and things. And then
of course you have the movies. It's

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the Legend of Boggy Creek and the
whole bunch of others and the Discovery Channel

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all things like that. Bigfoot was
on my radar before then. And then

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in about two thousand, two thousand
and one, ish, me and my

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brother apparently got ran out of the
woods by one. Yeah, that's that's

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an interesting story. Wow. Would
you mind sharing that story with the listeners

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tonight? No, not at all, I don't mind a bit. I

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actually share it a lot more now
than definitely what I used to since I

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started working at the museum. I'd
probably share it probably at least maybe once

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or twice a month, if not
more, depending on how the days or

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the weeks ago. Again, I'll
start. I grew up here in southern

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Appalasia, here in North Georgia,
and the property where this occurred is some

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of our family property, and it's
been there in the family for probably it's

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a one hundred and fifty two hundred
years at this point, and it was

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several hundred acres, and my father
and my second cousin, who we refer

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to as my uncle, were chopping
up trees for firewood, because that's how

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we supply our heat up here where
we didn't have air conditioning, we didn't

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have sexual heat in there. We
just had the woodburn and stove, so

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during the summertime we would chop up
firewood to prepare for winter. So they

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had turned us kids loose from helping
haul firewood. My uncle had recently remarried,

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so he had a new step daughter, and so there was a tree

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on the property there that we all
referred to as the Carbon tree. And

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it's super cool that over the years, over the generations, people had gone

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and carved their initials onto this tree. That's what we all called it was

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the Carbon Tree. Hey, let's
go take Kelsey down to the Carbon Tree.

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Put her name on it, since
she's family now. It was me

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and my brother and our new cousin. Kelsey traveled from where we were chopping

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firewood through the hayfield down past the
creek into the tree line where this tree

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was at, and I'd say that
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It was pretty good sized hayfield.
And I mentioned that because at the

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time it was summer, so the
hay was really tall. I was about

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fifteen years old, so it probably
came up above my waist. You know,

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it was going to be cut soon. Anyhow, we get to the

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carving tree and it is right inside
of the tree line here beside the creek,

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and it was this super super cool
tree. It was this massive tree

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that had grew up next to this
giant rock that kind of came out of

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the side of the hill side the
mountain because this creek was right in this

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valley. And then Appalachi, you
know, we have a lot of these

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big boulder outcrops, and this tree
grew up in front of it, so

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that underneath beside the tree and this
rock was this big wallered out area where

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stars, mountain, lions, you
name it. Anything could have bedded down

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in there. It was really cool. My cousin's even camped in there sometimes

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and he climbed up on top of
the rock and that was where you would

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carve your name at And I can't
the picture just because of I'm such a

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visual person. I'm remembering it in
my head painting the picture, so I'd

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try to describe it in the same
way. I was up on top of

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the rock and I was in the
process of putting my name on the tree

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or yeah, I was carving it
in there. And my brother and my

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cousin, who are both a little
younger than me. My brother is if

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I was fifteen, he would have
been twelve years old at the time,

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and then Kelsey probably would have been
close to the same age. They were

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down below the rock next to the
creek and we're just having a good time

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chit chat and doing what teenagers do
in the woods, and then all of

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a sudden, my brothers, Hey, we need to go. Well,

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I'm almost done, we'll go in
a second. No, we need to

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go, like right now. And
he's very freaked out about something. And

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at this point were mountain kids.
I'm thinking, oh, shoot, he's

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seen a bear. My dad had
mentioned he'd seen a panther in the area

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recently, so I'm thinking, oh
snap, he's done seeing that. So

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I hopped down off of the rock
and as I'm doing that, Michael and

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Kelse have done takeoff running. Oh
snap, if they're running, I need

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to be running too. Within the
time of me getting from the down around

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the rock to the creek and running
to the edge of the hayfield, when

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I got to the edge of the
hayfield, whatever this was my brother had

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seen let out the most god awful
roar, scream yell that was so loud

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it nearly knocked me to my feet
just from the volume of it and me

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being so scared. So I threw
my hands up on my ears and nearly

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fell, and I was falling into
the hayfield, almost stumbling, and as

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I did that, all the birds
and everything in the hay flew off.

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And that's what I remember in my
head is this loud noise and then all

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the birds would catch up out of
the field, catch my feet and I

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could catch up with my brother and
my cousin and asked him like, what

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was that? What is this?
Like? What is happening? Because they're

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still running, We're taking off at
full speed. He I think it was

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bigfoot. What you can't be serious. What we knew that they were around

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and that there was a possibility of
him. It wasn't something that was no

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quote unquote new to us, So
it just was insane. So apparently what

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had happened is that my brother being
down below us, he was looking up

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at me, and as he looked
up at me, he saw about fifty

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foot behind me on up the ridge
a little bit was a bigfoot creature standing

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up there watching us. And it
said it had the just his most ominous

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feeling in the split second that he's
seen it of You kids don't need to

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be around here. You all need
to get out of here. This is

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my turf. I don't like albing
here. We had walked up in his

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living room, and my brother described
it as being just your classic brownish orange

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color, but it had the most
piercing red eyes, he said he remembered.

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And what was the craziest part about
all of this is I actually was

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talking to my brother about this recently
over the holidays, because I'm sharing this

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story so much and I wanted to
make sure that I have my facts straight.

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I asked him about It's like,
Dude, that's the main thing that

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I remember about this is I didn't
see anything you did, but I heard

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that thing and that was the loudest
thing I have ever heard of my life.

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Did you hear anything that day?
And he says, no, I

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didn't hear. All I saw did
was I saw it and I started running

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until you caught up with me.
And that was just crazy. And we

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got over to my dad and my
uncle and they saw us kids was upset,

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but they didn't think too much of
is' all right you see something there?

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And I was like, yeah,
I think we saw saw bigfoot or

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something like that, and they're like, oh, they started giggling a laugh.

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Oh you kids done wouldn't see the
booger, didn't you wait? What

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So, Apparently we'd heard this story
of my whole life from my grandmother,

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dad's father mother, excuse me,
my dad's mom, who grew up on

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this property, and we always heard
stories our whole life there was a booger

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that lived out there. And you
hear a lot of people use the term

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booger in Appalachia to describe the sasquatch
creatures. Down in our area. We

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always referred to boogers as a general
term for anything that kind of goes off

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for the night, mostly anything from
your cryptid creatures to the things that shouldn't

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be there. We used hate as
more for like ghosts and stuff, but

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boogers was for anyhow. We'd always
thought that they were referring to the booger

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was just this weird apparition or something
that hung around. We had no idea

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of putting two or two together that
they were referring to quote the booger on

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the property as the bigfoot creature.
That's my main story. I have actually

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seen some other cryptid creatures. I've
seen a thing that looked like a pterodactyl

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flyover my mom and dad's house when
I was much younger. I was probably

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around seven or eight years old.
The only reason I remember that is because

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I remember this thing flying over this
particularly large tree that we had in the

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yard, and that tree cut down
later on over the years, and I

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remember that thing. But it was
very small. It wasn't like humongous like

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you hear people talk about giant thunderbird, humongous pterodactyl type things. It was

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very small, like a woodpecker or
hawk. But what made me notice that

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it wasn't just a bird was that
the wings werenimberdous. They were membranes,

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so I could actually see yellow and
the little red veins in the wings.

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And it had a little point that
came out of the back of the head

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and a really long beak on it, exactly like how you would see a

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picture of a small pterodactyl. Again, I've had so many weird things happened

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to me in my life. I
don't know if I'm a conduit or a

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sensitive. Definitely sure I'm a sensitive. So I've had that happen to me,

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the weird bigfoot encounter with my brother. I've seen several ghosts, demons,

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and angel and I've seen another thing
And whether it was a bigfoot or

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not to this day, I still
don't know. This thing baffles me.

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It would have been probably around the
same time that my brother and I saw

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the bigfoot creature at the carving tree. My parents' house wouldn't be but maybe

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ten miles as the crow flies,
as we say, from where that other

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property was. And our driveway was
pretty long, so all of the US

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and the two neighbor kids, they
would come over all the time, and

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we would all ride our bicycles up
and down the driveway, and we were

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at this little spot that we that
Mountain kids have a little fort spot that

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they've made in the woods where we
made a little makeshift tree house and everything

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like that. It was at the
end of our driveway because that's also where

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we waited for the school bus.
And it was fall and the sun was

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really bright and the leaves were fresh
fell on the ground. And I mentioned

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that for a reason because the other
kids had jumped down off of the embankment

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to go down into the driveway and
I was in the rear and I hear

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something behind me, and you could
hear the leaves rustling really allowed to as

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something was coming in a glance back
over my shoulder almost jumping, like if

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something's fixing at me. And I
turned around and there was this thing laying

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in the leaves and it was big. It was really big. And I

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always have referred to this thing as
the bear skin rug creature because that was

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the only thing that this thing reminded
me of, because it was laying there

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flatterele its stomach, with its mouth
open, eyes dark red, almost black

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eyes, laying there with its mouth
open, arms stretched out straight to the

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side like a bear rug would,
but the color of it blended in exactly

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with the leaves, like from the
waist down, I couldn't see anything.

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I could see the shoulders, the
head was really clear, and the little

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bit of the back, and I
could see parts of the arms, but

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the other parts, the from like
i'd say, middle elbow to wrist,

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was behind two trees on each side
of it. And all of this happened

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in a split second. And as
you and I both know hearing this from

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other witnessers, it happened in a
split second. It's like time slowed down

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on one of those things, like
am I really seeing what I think I'm

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seeing right now? Because it didn't
fit into anything. It didn't look like

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a monkey. It didn't look like
a human, it didn't look like a

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bear. It was like all the
things in one into this ugly thing laying

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there looking at me. And I
hear my brothers and the neighbor kids hollering,

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man, come on, let's go. I just turned up. I'm

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like, huh. We realized they're
still there, and in that second that

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I turned to look back, this
thing is gone. And I shook for

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a second. Did I really just
did I just see that? Did that

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really? Just? No? There
ain't no way, There ain't no way,

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no, And I just filed it
back. And then my brain,

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along with all these other crazy things
that I've had and seen, it happen

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to me in my brain. And
it honestly wasn't until I started working back

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at Expedition Bickfoot in twenty nineteen that
the memory of this bearskin rug thing came

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back to me. And it was
only because I had heard something from another

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witness was describing something and I was
like, oh wait, yeah, I

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think and it reminded me of it, and that memory came flooding back,

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and for three or four nights I
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wake up in the middle of the
night, and I would see this thing

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in my you know, were in
the memory of it, and it was

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just like, ough, gross,
I don't want to I don't want to

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see this thing ever again. And
so yeah, that's my other big story.

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I guess you want to call it, Amanda. That's incredible. All

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this has happened in northern Georgia.
You said, yes, sir, right

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here where I'm from. It's in
Gilmour County. If we want to be

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exact. I won't go into any
other exacts to it, just because there's

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all my family and everybody still lives
here. Most everybody knows who I am

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and my family and everything. But
yeah, I'm not the only one who's

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seen and heard crazy things. You
know. My brother part two to the

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story of when the Bigfoot ran him
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he told me over Christmas. Okay, we've rewind So unfortunately my me and

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my brothers, I'm being the old
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I was eighteen, so I didn't
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time. And the life and stuff. I moved cross country for a few

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years. He moves to Florida,
and all this stuff. So we hadn't

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really got to like just sit this
talk and especially talk about these kind of

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things other than just hey, how
are the kids doing and stuff. Over

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the holidays, me and him really
got to sit and talk, and I

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was again asking him about the details
of this encounter where it ran us out

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of the woods, and he said, oh, yeah, I'm going to

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tell you. Me and Brian went
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cousin. I have many cousins.
I come from a very large family.

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So they went back up there a
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two later, they said, and
they were going to hunt this thing.

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they took one of the little in
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cabin. They said that they went
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walked up the creek up going towards
where the carbon tree would have been,

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and sure enough they were flanked.
You know. They would walk, it

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would walk, they would walk,
it would walk, they would run,

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it would run, they would stop, it would stop. And they got

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freaked out and went back to the
cab. The camp that they had made

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in the barn, and that night
they had something circling the barn and coming

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up to the sides of the walls
of a sniffing and making rat rookus,

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hitting on the walls and everything.
Needless to say, them boys didn't go

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back up and mess with with that
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is that two years ago apparently somebody
in that general area captured a bigfoot call

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on their ring camera in that exact
area. It just validated everything and put

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it all together and like, oh
my goodness, So this is mostly either

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like a perpetual habitation or this is
a hole where they come through all the

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time. If something says as my
family had been talking about seeing this thing

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for fifty years ago to us seeing
it to modern day people are still having

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encounters in this area, it's just
it's truly fascinating, it really is.

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When we get reports that come into
the museum will, depending on the witnesses

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comfortable with us putting anything out there. A lot of times we'll put out

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on our David Wills put out on
the Facebook page a particular siding with a

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few details in general location, and
next thing, you know, the comment

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section will start blowing up with oh
in this area, I've seen this,

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or all these different little stories will
start coming up out of these areas,

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and it's so neat, and it
gets people talking about these things and people

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connecting in those different areas, and
it's just a really cool phenomenon to watch.

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The Facebook page for the museum is
incredible when you guys put up,

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when you guys put up some accounts, and yeah, it really does go

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viral for sure. The comment section
in there is pretty incredible. I wanted

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to ask you, are you religious
at all? I am very I try

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to be. I should say,
okay, yes, I'm a born again

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Christian. I don't really claim a
particular denomination. I grew up a Church

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of God Protestant, and so up
here where I'm from is the buffalo of

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the Bible belt, as they would
say, this is where a lot of

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the big what's the word I'm looking
for? The big revivals happened at the

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turn of the from eighteen hundreds to
the nineteen hundreds in this general area.

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And my great grandfather, on my
father's excuse me, my mother's side,

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actually started the church that I grew
up in. We were in church all

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the time, whether it's regular Sundays
on Wednesdays. My mom was the youth

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group leader and everything, so we
were all the time busy with that stuff.

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And I bring that up saying because
a lot of the stories that I

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heard growing up about things that go
bump at the night actually came from a

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lot of my family members who were
members of this church. They had many

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experiences with different ghosts, panthers,
who know, all these kinds of things.

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So they were actually very open to
a lot of this. They were,

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you know, if they believed a
very hardcore that if Jesus is real,

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the devil is very real, and
not saying necessarily that all these things

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are quote unquote evil, but they
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So I was very open and susceptible
to a lot of that's not susceptible,

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but I wasn't sheltered right from all
of this knowledge, it feels like it

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is definitely a part of your upbringing
and the culture that you were in,

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for sure. It's just a really
interesting thing to think about. Sometimes I

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contemplate if there's some sort of connection
there. I don't know. I'm not

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sure how to formulate it. Into
words. I think there are certain types

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of people that are definitely more open
to seeing things like this, maybe that

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might distracted by other things. Yeah, and I think a lot of mine

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not only was it a spiritual gift, but also genetics in a way.

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Because my mom's mom, my grandmother, she was a seer. She could

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almost predict the future. Sometimes she
would have prophetic dreams of different things,

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especially whenever my grandfather was in the
military. He was in Vietnam and twenty

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years in the military, and she
would have prophetic dreams about like his ship

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getting blown up and all these kinds
of things that she would just get on

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her knees and then pray and pray
about it. And back then, telephones

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and things wasn't really a thing,
so he wouldn't tell her any of the

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spooky stuff that, you know,
hey I was in a battle or anything

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like this, until after he came
back on shore leave that hey this happened.

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She's like, oh, yeah,
I know, I know what happened.

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Wow. And her mom was the
preacher's wife, and she had twelve

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kids of her own, so she
was a very preyed up woman and she

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all the time helped perform miracles and
all kinds of things, like she'd ever

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count a story of her casting out
a demon, seeing ghosts and getting rid

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of them out of people's houses,
and blessing the water and the food in

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everything, and then even going farther
back than that. Her mother, which

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would be my second grade mother,
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She was one who could go out
in the woods and find any kind

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of herb and any kind of thing
that you could think of to heal and

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to Basically, there wasn't modern medicine
back then. She was the midwife.

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She was the healer and everything.
And they shared stories about ghosts and things

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that go bump in the night and
bookers that they ran into, and those

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are the stories that they shared with
us. Whenever I was little, I

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would get off the bus and go
visit her before I would walk on up

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the hill and just go have story
time. And those are some good fond

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memories. So I think that definitely
molded me to being the person that I

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am today, to being a lover
of stories and a collector of folklore and

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all kinds of fun things. Our
stories and the folklore of our ancestors is

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so important that isn't forgotten or erased
because we didn't take the time to listen

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to it and then to share it
with the next generation. You'd mentioned it

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really quickly. You're starting to talk
about spiritual gifts for a little bit.

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Yes, do you think in your
viewpoint, could any of those be connected

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to the things that you are seeing
or if you have any thoughts about that?

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Oh, yes, I one hundred
percent beliefs so because I used to

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be plagued with nightmares and stuff as
a child, and I would see,

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you know, monsters in my dreams, or I would see shadow people and

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all kinds of things almost like I
could sometimes I could see things that other

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people couldn't see. And it's just
I've seen a demon on my brother's bed

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once. My youngest brother had just
graduated from his crib up to a toddler

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bed, and we had just gotten
this toddler bed second hand, and he

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used to scream and scream and scream
and scream at night once we got in

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this bed. He already was a
crier a little bit before then, but

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man, he would scream. And
we were playing hide and seek once and

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I went to go hide in what
would have been his room at the time,

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and I could have swore to you
there was a light, but not

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like a lamp light, but was
shining on the bed, and honestly,

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goodness, there was a silhouette of
a human type figure sitting on this bed,

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and it turned and looked at me
with the most evil red ember eyes

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I have ever seen, and it
scared me so bad, and I went

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and we told my mom and she
got out the holy water and the oil

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and her and the other church friends
came over there, and one of them

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was very discerned. She's, oh, yeah, you know, there's a

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demon attached to this bed because something
terrible happened from the previous owner that it's

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attached to it. And so we
all prayed over it and the problem went

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away. We rebuked it and it
left and the problem with that bed went

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away. And that's only one example. We used to at the church have

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holy ghost revivals and laying hands on
people. You would see sickness come out

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of people. And I would see
angels at the altar, different lights and

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things standing there. And it wouldn't
be like a fool like I could see

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a whole persons standing there. Was
more like a light shape kind of thing.

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I just knew that there was something
there, but it was a white,

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a light presence, not necessarily anything
dark. I could really tell when

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there was dark presences around. So
I was like, you're talking at more

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maybe about the gift of discernment.
Yeah, probably, Yeah, probably,

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that's cool. That's awesome. I
am totally on board with that, for

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sure. I think is very interesting
to talk about stuff like that. For

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sure, it is, and I
think people we should talk more about that.

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I know there's a lot of divide
within the cryptid world of trying to

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incorporate some of the more paranormal aspects
of things into cryptids and mysterious creatures and

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things. And I think that if
we were able, if we could all

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come together and discuss these things more
openly, we see how much more all

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of it connects, way more than
what people try to want to avoid in

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some cases. And I don't know
if that's maybe just my personal opinion from

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personal experiences and sort of listening to
so many people and other stories, but

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like I said, I do believe
there's way more to this than just some

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kind of unknown things out there.
I absolutely agree. Thinking back of back

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to how you've heard your relatives talk
about that property and how there was the

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booger sighting over the years. Were
there any aggressive interactions or was it a

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thing like if you leave it alone, things are going to be okay type

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deal. From one I remember of
the stories I heard, we never really

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put two and two together that it
was a big foot. We actually thought

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it was they were talking about a
ghost because we had heard stories about there

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being ghost in there from Civil War
battles and we had a lot of Native

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American deaths and stuff due to the
trail of tears being in that area.

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So we'd always thought that they had
talked about like, oh, carbon just

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seen him a ghost up there,
and that's why he didn't want to go

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back in the woods, because the
fog would settle in the creek bed there

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real heavy. Sometimes it would be
super spooky. So you're like, oh,

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better watch out, the ghost is
out there, but the booger's out

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there. Never thinking it was bigfoot, never thinking that never came together until

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that incident happened. From you've talked
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and you've talked to more than a
few people. It sounds like over the

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years, what do you think when
we talk about Bigfoot, what do you

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think it is that we are dealing
with. I personally think it's a combination

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of both of flesh and blood and
spiritual creature. And I say that in

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a very broad strokes, not necessarily. I'm trying to think of the vocabulary.

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To forgive me, I'm a mountain
girl. I don't have that much

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on vocabulary. So there's just way
too much of these things in the paranormal

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aspects that go along with these things
for it to be just a flesh and

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blood Now us people, there's people
who have different abilities telekinesis, reading people's

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minds, somebody being able to touch
and heal somebody, all these kind of

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crazy things that us people can do
when we're flesh and blood, and once

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we die we can. There's the
theory of purgatory and ghosts and all this

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kind of craziness that goes along with
it. Why can't they be the same

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thing with these creatures as well?
If we are susceptible to possession and things

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of that nature. People talk about
the ones that are just so mean and

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so evil, can if they're just
as human as we are, can these

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creatures not also have some of the
same problems that we do in the spiritual

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world, not to mention that you
could go down the whole rabbit hole of

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these things being from another world,
much less ourselves being from another world.

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So I personally don't have an exact
answer. I'm open to any of these

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theories because nobody has the answers,
and looking at all the puzzle pieces,

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it's a big puzzle that's going to
take a while to try to put together.

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You just said a whole lot that
I'd never thought of before, and

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that's very interesting, Amanda, to
think of. The thing about Bigfoot is

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we don't know because we haven't been
able to actually have a specimen that can

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be studied so far from what we
know right exactly, not anything that we've

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been allowed to know anyways. Yeah, when I talked to David, he

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was saying that he had stories that
were locked up, that it was just

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stuff that he couldn't even tell.
It was absolutely wild, and I believe

408
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.519
f one hundred percent. Let's talk
about the museum for a little bit.

409
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.720
Do you have a favorite artifact that
you're able to have in the museum.

410
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:46.519
Oh, good question, there's so
many of them there recently, I had

411
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.440
a customer come in and ask and
say, Okay, if you could pick

412
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.000
one thing, one thing out of
the entire museum, out of all this

413
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.880
evidence, say all the rest of
is fake, and he could say,

414
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.839
this one thing that could prove that
the whole thing is real, which one

415
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.000
would you pick? I was like, Oh, that's a good question,

416
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.200
and so I thought about it for
a second, and I came back with

417
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.359
the Elkins Creek cast one. Because
it was cast here in Georgia, Georgia

418
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.519
represent and at the time it was
cast, it was the largest print ever

419
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:27.039
found east of the Mississippi. People
always associate Bigfoot in Sasquatch with the Pacific

420
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:32.200
Northwest. They don't think about it
being a whole United States don't even go

421
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.400
into the whole possibilities of that this
is a global phenomenon. But at the

422
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.759
time, this was the biggest one
east of the Mississippi, and it had

423
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.720
the police report to go along with
it, so you had the validation there.

424
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.880
And on top of that, it
also is one of the ones that

425
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:57.119
they used to determine that these creatures
have dermal ridges or fingerprints on the soles

426
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:02.119
of their feet, the same way
that US and other apes. Would this

427
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:08.039
had to be able to disprove that
all that evidence combined to that one artifact.

428
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.480
That's my lynch pin for me.
I think I remember hearing about it

429
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.719
that Jimmy Chilcut was involved with that
as well. I think it was back

430
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.920
in nineteen ninety seven. But yeah, that is yes correct. Some that

431
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.559
I think are cool that we have
there is we have one of the massive

432
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:31.000
handprints that Paul Freeman got out of
Washington and this thing is massive is looking

433
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:37.199
at it. And then of course
we have the Tom Slick's gear there.

434
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:44.360
David has talked about he got the
opportunity to get a hold of to Tom

435
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:50.400
slicks stuff, so he has all
these first hand pictures, the original pictures

436
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:57.719
of the original notebook of his journeys
into Nepaul looking for the yetti. So

437
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.280
I think that is just super super
cool to have. And then of course

438
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:07.800
you have Raven, our big guy
that we have in the museum. He's

439
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:14.159
our full size replica that is the
main face on our page. And people

440
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.760
look at it's like, oh,
it's cool, but it's more do you

441
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.679
know that a police officer made this
thing? I look at these pictures right

442
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.159
here, these are the ones where
he took the time. Nobody's gonna believe

443
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.559
me. He took the time to
rebuild this thing to show this is what

444
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.320
I saw, all the way down
to the detail of it having that little

445
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:36.320
white tough of hair on its chin, to show Lord, this is what

446
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:37.920
I saw. This is how tall
it was, This is how broad the

447
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.960
shoulders was, this is how big
it is. The police officer took the

448
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.039
time to do this through the ridicule
of it all, and here he is

449
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:52.960
our main attraction inside of the museum. I just I'm like a kid in

450
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.480
a candy store. I just think
the whole thing is cool. That is

451
00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:00.079
incredible. Is speaking of Bigfoot recreations. I have to ask, because I'm

452
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:07.559
based out of Central Iowa, have
you been privilenged enough to have seen Clifford

453
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.559
Lebrex Bigfoot? No, I'm not. It's still in storage. And trust

454
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.639
me, as soon as I see
that, I am like gonna be just

455
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:23.519
gobsmacked because I remember seeing pictures of
that thing in magazines and on documentaries as

456
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:29.880
a kid. And I wasn't working
at the museum at the time. I

457
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.840
had moved out of state for a
little while, and I happened to see

458
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:39.760
somewhere on a Bigfoot group post,
somewhere where somebody the family was getting rid

459
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:45.440
of this thing. And I messaged
David about it, and I never heard

460
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:51.159
anything from him. And the next
thing I see later that he's getting u

461
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.119
hauled. He's going to Arkansas and
he's going to be surprised, and I

462
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.599
see all these pictures. He actually
got it. That is so awesome.

463
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.519
All the people in the world to
get it, for David to get it

464
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.519
and add it to his collection,
that's perfect. Couldn't have asked for a

465
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.400
better person for it to go to. Yeah, the whole story is wild,

466
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.960
and David shares a little bit more
about it in the episode that I

467
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.480
did with him a while back ago. But yeah, I actually was just

468
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.840
listening to that recently. It's some
of the only evidence that still remains from

469
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.880
the whole period of the Iowa Bigfoot
Information Center in the late seventies, which

470
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:31.079
was a group of gentlemen that we're
investigating all the Bigfoot reports in Iowa in

471
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:36.920
the late seventies, and unfortunately,
from what I've heard, most of the

472
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:42.400
reports, the tracks no longer exist
unless a listener knows that they exist,

473
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:46.119
and you have them then please reach
out to me. But I believe that

474
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.719
that Bigfoot is one of the only
things that exists from that time period.

475
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.480
But anyways, there's other Big for
Society episodes you can listen to on that

476
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:57.360
where I go deep into it.
I bet you have a sweet gift shop

477
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.719
too. Oh yes, yeah,
our gift shop is off. If there's

478
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.760
anything and everything you can think of
that's Bigfoot, you'll find it there in

479
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:10.079
our gift shop. And Melinda and
David they've done a fantastic job of procuring

480
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.639
different items for that, and it
was funny. David'll share the story like

481
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.119
when he opened the museum, he
talked about the museum part was the main

482
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.079
attraction, and he had a few
things from the gift shop. I think

483
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.000
he might as maybe I had a
T shirt or a few odd things.

484
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.360
Nothing big than of coming in after
they would visit the museum be like,

485
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:31.880
oh do you have this? Oh
do you have this? And he realized

486
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.719
like, oh no, the gift
shop that might actually be a big deal.

487
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.360
And I'm like, oh yes,
yeah. People are definitely picking back

488
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.440
up on the tourism aspects of things
and souvenirs and things. So yeah,

489
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.519
definitely had to pick up on the
gift shop and yeah, they've done a

490
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.199
great job. And they're all the
time bringing in new things, and it's

491
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:58.639
like Christmas for all of us employees. Whenever they bring in new merchandise,

492
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.599
that's awesome. I mean, if
I visited and if you guys have a

493
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.000
sweet book selection, I'm going to
be in trouble because it's hard to find.

494
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.360
Oh, yes, you will be
in big trouble. Absolutely, as

495
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.199
books are my downfall, for sure. I am right there with you.

496
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.400
Thinking over the years that you've been
able to work at the museum, you

497
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.159
have been able to hear a few
stories. Do you have any that that

498
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:30.679
stick out in your memory? I
have several I've spoken to you have your

499
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.880
one hundred dime a dozen as you
want to call them, classic road crossing

500
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.280
reports that will get in all the
time, or people who have just heard

501
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.480
something or had rockstone in at them
from their tree stand. One of my

502
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:51.400
ones that comes to memory right off
the top of my head that's not necessarily

503
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.480
wu or too paranormal, was I
was. It was one of my early

504
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:59.000
days I was working there, so
I was actually working by myself at the

505
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.599
time, and this really nice old
mountain Feller came in, Big Beard,

506
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.199
Big Overalls came in with his wife. And the first thing you tay,

507
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.920
you welcome to the museum. I
can help you the street get tickets.

508
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.760
First thing he asked me, he
was, do you got any sounds in

509
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.159
here that I can listen to.
I was like, yes, sir,

510
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.440
we have an entire audio station back
there. When you get to that section,

511
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.039
let me know and I'll help you
get the volume in and everything so

512
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.639
that you could hear it. He's
okay, he was real quiet, and

513
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.039
I'm already my wheels already turned into
my head to go like he's heard something,

514
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.119
all right, And so I give
them their tickets and let them in

515
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.880
the museum, and they spend a
long time back in there. He comes

516
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.719
back out and sure enough, one
of the audio stations that we had back

517
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:44.320
there, one of the howls or
the ars, I don't remember exactly which

518
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.280
one it was. He's like,
I've heard that up at my my hunting

519
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.079
camp up here in Cash's Valley.
He was an older man, so he

520
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.519
didn't have a tent rything. He
had a little pup camper that he took

521
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:58.599
up into the woods, and that's
what he camped and hunted out of so

522
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.440
he had went up there to his
camp and he was walking to wherever his

523
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.559
tree stand was, and it was
by the creek, and he kept hearing

524
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:15.840
the dunk, the dunk, the
dunk of someone throwing rocks into the river

525
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:19.559
or the creek, and he's thought
that was weird, and it spooked him

526
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.880
enough to where he decided to go
back and set in his camper for a

527
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.920
little bit and just sit and waiting. He just kept listening and listening,

528
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:32.800
and then he could hear he started
hearing the chatter going on, and then

529
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:39.800
he hears a massive boulder get thrown
into the creek right behind his little canter.

530
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:46.039
And then that's whenever it howls and
roars as he's driving off, because

531
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.199
he said, nope, I'm not
going to stay here anymore. And sure

532
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.800
enough, he said, one of
those roars that we had back here on

533
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.519
the audio station sounded exactly like what
he heard. So that's one that comes

534
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.119
off the top of my head that
I always remember, and it's always it's

535
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.760
so nice to have some of those
good local faces come into there and share

536
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:13.400
their encounters and experiences. And another
one that comes to mind is a gentleman

537
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:19.199
who was on the army base down
in South Georgia near the Valdosta area,

538
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.519
and this was in the sixties or
early seventies, I believe, and he

539
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:30.159
was actually the photographer for them and
for the local newspaper, and he got

540
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:37.079
called out to a scene one night
on the military base and he was writing

541
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.840
in the jeep. It was him
in the passenger seat and the MP in

542
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.559
the driver's seat, and they were
just briefing him on we just want you

543
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.519
to take pictures of this and then
you know nothing else, don't ask questions,

544
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.599
Okay, this is weird. And
they get to the scene and it

545
00:42:52.719 --> 00:43:00.840
is just a jeep in the ditch
and from the ditch, across the ditch

546
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.320
you can see the fence line and
then the military barracks. And he's already

547
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.440
thinking, you know, is this
all you brought me out here for?

548
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.599
This? Is it? Why was
you making such a big deal about it?

549
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.480
So he gets out to start taking
some pictures and sure enough, there's

550
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:22.480
tracks around this jeep. And as
they're taking pictures of this, and he's

551
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.760
talking to the other MP's the skunk
ape as they call him in South Georgia

552
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.639
and Florida, and that's what the
guy called it. He said, the

553
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.679
skunk ape was over there in the
barracks and you could see it running back

554
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.760
and forth between the barracks, and
then it charged towards us, jumped the

555
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:45.280
fence and then ran pasted all not
past them, but diagonal of the fence

556
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.159
line and into the woods. And
he didn't, of course, even get

557
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.840
any pictures of any of that,
because they were all just gobsmack that he

558
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:59.119
was this thing and same thing.
He had to go to his superiors and

559
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.800
they told him, you'll talk about
this, this is hush. You say

560
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:06.840
anything and you'll get court martialed and
everything. So he just wrote up his

561
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.639
little report that you know, oh
it's a jeep wrecked for some audre reason.

562
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.119
I forget what he said he made
up, but that was one of

563
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.639
a super interesting one for me because
it was one of those same ones that's

564
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.840
very similar the ones that David gets, because you hear him talk about these

565
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:27.119
are this is there's something I just
got to get off my chest before I

566
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:31.880
die because and so this gentleman was
much older as well, since this has

567
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.559
happened in the sixties and seventies,
and so it was super cool and I

568
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.159
felt almost honored. I was like, oh my goodness, this is one

569
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:44.559
of my first big stories. Somebody
wants to get off their chest before it's

570
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.880
too late that they can't share this
story with anybody else. Thankfully, I

571
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:51.920
was able to get the guy's information, and him and David, I think

572
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:57.519
chatted after that. So that was
one of my favorites. And then one

573
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.840
of the craziest ones I've heard that
I've personally taken about a bigfoot, because

574
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:09.280
I've actually taken reports about mothman,
and I even talked to somebody about a

575
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:15.880
gollm Rake type creature they saw one
time in tons of dog man stories as

576
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:22.079
well. But one of the most
bizarre bigfoot stories I ever took was earlier

577
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.079
this year when I came back to
work at the museum. These two ladies

578
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:32.000
from Colorado came in, and one
of them was Native American and the other

579
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.679
wasn't. And they were just like
two peas in the pod, two sisters,

580
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.119
and they were having a good time
already when they came in, and

581
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:44.400
I'm doing my usual thing, Welcome
in, how are you ladies doing.

582
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.960
Let me introduce you to the museum. Here's the things to look for as

583
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.199
you walk through, and of course
they start asking me different questions about these

584
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.679
different things. Right off the bat
is popping off questions and so I'm trying

585
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.840
to answer what little bit I can, and so they start sharing a story

586
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.480
with me about this is something you're
not going to believe, like, oh,

587
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.559
try me, let me see what
you got. And us at work,

588
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:13.000
we are required to wear our logo
shirts. So I had our logo

589
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.239
on. On one half of the
logo, it's round, it has the

590
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.519
Sasquatch face, but it's in one
of the tribal masks, and on the

591
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:29.239
other half of the face is a
Sasquatch but it's like just an outlined creature

592
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.599
of it, and then that's what
forms the full face. The lady said

593
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:40.480
that the dreadlocks they called them on
the drawing of the on our logo looked

594
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:46.719
exactly like the dreadlocks on the Sasquatch
creature that they saw. And they told

595
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:53.039
me the story that they were at
a spiritual gathering or whatever tribe this one

596
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:58.599
lady was a part of out there
in Colorado and they were doing the whole

597
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:02.519
like drum circle thing. There was
tons of people there and they were in

598
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.119
the back of the group, and
they were there together and it was dark,

599
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.199
and they get this kind of like
ominous hair standing up on the back

600
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:16.360
of their neck feeling, and they
both turn and look to their right and

601
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:23.920
there is this six or seven foot
tall sasquatch looking at them, but it

602
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:29.679
is wearing clothes it has looked like. And she said, it wasn't like

603
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.719
it just got dressed or something fancy. It looked like something that they just

604
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.400
pulled up out of the woods because
it was muddy, it was button funny,

605
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.039
the buttons wasn't lined up quite right, and I really regret and I

606
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.800
forgot to ask them if the arms
were whipped up like the Incredible Hulk or

607
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.440
something, so I don't remember if
they said the sleeves were torn, because

608
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:54.880
they said it was a business type
button up man's shirt and cans and they're

609
00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:00.880
gobsmack looking at this thing, and
it looks back at them and smirks,

610
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.360
yeah, you saw me. That's
right, you saw me, And it

611
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.840
proceeds to walk on past them into
the crowd, and as it's walking,

612
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:15.679
it's continuing to trance into a human
form, and they the two ladies are

613
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.880
looking at each other and they look
over to their left, and the guy

614
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.920
who was standing beside them, whom
they didn't know, saw the exact same

615
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.800
thing, because he was standing there
with his chin to his knees. And

616
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.280
both of the ladies as they're talking, one of them popics it sounds so

617
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.800
crazy, it sounds so crazy.
I don't know, I don't know.

618
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.639
And the other one is talking to
her. It's like, it's okay.

619
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.199
I mean, you can talk to
her, you know, gil't have to

620
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:42.400
be scared to talk about it.
And I'm encouraging her as they're talking.

621
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.639
You know, you can tell me
about these things. It's okay. And

622
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.000
at the same time, I'm also
trying to keep a straight face and that

623
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.639
going through the craziest story I've ever
heard in my life. This is amazing.

624
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.920
And they got all those details out
to me, and they went on

625
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:01.400
in through the museum, had a
great time, enjoyed the evidence, and

626
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.239
then we talked a little bit more
as they came out, and of course,

627
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:07.280
like any other day, it was
really busy, so I didn't get

628
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.960
to talk to them that much.
And I'm about ninety nine percent sure I

629
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.599
got their name and number, So
that's one of the ones I'm pretty sure

630
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:20.039
that David has locked up in the
vault somewhere. What do you do with

631
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.719
that information? That's just crazy.
It just makes your brain go in so

632
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:29.239
many different directions. It would be
hard for me to work there because I

633
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.719
would just be like, oh man, it would be awesome. Actually it'd

634
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.320
be really fun too. But yeah, that would be like the coolest job

635
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.320
ever. It is the coolest job
ever, and I'm so blessed. Yeah,

636
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.119
there, you talk to people that
have seen bigfoot all over the US,

637
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.599
then pretty much correct. Yes,
Yeah, we even had the opportunity

638
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:53.000
to talk to somebody who saw rock
apes in Vietnam. Really, that's been

639
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.599
super cool too. Yes, that's
so rare to be able to talk to

640
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.920
someone about that. It is,
and it's he's such a nice gentleman too,

641
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.000
And that's one of the nice things. The cool things about a lot

642
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.840
of these witnesses is just like me, just that they're just normal, average

643
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:13.280
people. They're not people who are
out here asking for this. Ninety nine

644
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.360
percent of these people aren't these people
going out in the woods and knocking on

645
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.920
trees and setting up croud cams looking
for them. They don't ask them this

646
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:25.599
to happen to some of them,
it really messes with them. Like even

647
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.039
for myself, it was very hard
for me to talk about this. I

648
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:34.960
didn't talk to anybody, including my
own husband, until after we were married

649
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.119
and I started, you know,
watching Bigfoot documentaries on and things like that.

650
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.960
So just soon you know, this
thing happened when I was younger,

651
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:49.320
and I don't actually think I've ever
told you before. It's these crazy things

652
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:54.559
in this world that's wild. So
you mentioned that you have people that come

653
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:59.159
in that also are telling you things
that are not Bigfoot related, so you

654
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.360
get a lot of people talking about
dog Man as well. Correct. Yes,

655
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:08.199
I've actually taken several dog Man reports
one, two, three, four

656
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.119
that I can remember off the top
of my head, and then we get

657
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.400
them a lot more often than we
would like, because as much as many

658
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.679
things go bump in the night,
out of everything, those things scare me

659
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.400
the most. Oh sure, yeah, same here. I would much rather

660
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:27.000
see a big Foot than a dog
man, no question. Oh yeah,

661
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:31.079
any day the accounts that you're taking, is Bigfoot usually involved with these stories

662
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:37.800
or is it just the dog man
by itself or any connection there? Good

663
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.599
question. Most of the ones that
I remembering off top of my head that

664
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.760
I've taken recently was just dog man. I can't think of any off top

665
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:52.719
of my head of more than one, meaning one both dog man and bigfoot

666
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.119
together. Nothing like the Martin Groves
kind of story or anything like that comes

667
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.400
to mind. I have talked to
somebody who had a big creator encounter that

668
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.360
involved with the orbs and stuff once. That was a pretty neat encounter.

669
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.920
I don't remember too much of the
details about it. That was when I

670
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:13.480
first started working there back in twenty
nineteen, and he was seeing the orbs

671
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.079
of this dry creek bed around his
property or his hunting property. And it

672
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:21.320
wasn't long after that he had a
bigfoot encounter. And the one that really

673
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:27.320
stands out to me as far as
non Bigfoot related ones was the gollum type

674
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:31.440
creature. But this witness came in
and I don't remember how the conversation got

675
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:36.840
and started, but it was him
and several other people. Was either some

676
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:42.239
siblings or some friends. They all
grew up together. And this was also

677
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:47.239
in North Georgia, but a little
farther southeast of us, like just for

678
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:53.360
a general area, I'll say,
in the Rome Cartersville Calhoun area for people

679
00:52:53.639 --> 00:53:00.760
for listeners, and they said that
they were coming in from school and they

680
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:07.320
were walking up their driveway and they
seen this thing in their driveway and they

681
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:13.880
said it looked exactly like how Gullham
from The Lord of the Rings looked in

682
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.599
their driveway looking back at them,
and it took off into the woods.

683
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.920
And apparently they seen this thing several
times, didn't tell anybody about it,

684
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:30.119
but somehow another they were in class
and somehow another that got brought up,

685
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.840
and this girl sitting in the desk
beside him said, oh, yeah,

686
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.639
we've been seeing this thing on our
property as well. We've actually been leaving

687
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:44.800
it out food and stuff. And
he just what And I said the same

688
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:45.800
thing. I'm like, oh my
goodness, So like, how long did

689
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.199
this go on? He's honestly,
After that, after we talked about it

690
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.000
together, we didn't really see it
much more after that, and we never

691
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:59.320
really talked to anybody about it.
So that was one that was super cool

692
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.920
to me, because you have your
main man Cryptis, you have dog Man,

693
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.800
Bigfoot, Mothman, and lake monsters, so to hear and get a

694
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:14.239
report from somebody of something super obscure
was just that was super cool to be

695
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.079
privy to be the one to take
that report from that person. Yeah,

696
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.760
those encounters always get me with either
pale Crawler or whatever you like to call

697
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.199
them. It's just really thank you, Jeff. Yeah, not my cup

698
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.039
of tea, But if anyone wants
to talk about it, I will definitely

699
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:36.559
talk about it. Man, Amanda
is such a fun chat. You're doing

700
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.320
some incredible work down there, you
and Cam and all you guys together.

701
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.199
And I would just recommend, even
though I've never been there, I'd recommend

702
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:50.800
if listeners are able to go to
that museum, definitely check it out.

703
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.000
From everyone I've absolutely it's worth checking
it out. Yeah, And I'll chime

704
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:59.119
in on that point as well,
because even though I'm a little privy there

705
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.159
because I am an a, I
highly recommend it because even before I work

706
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:07.119
there growing up in that area,
Saul, if you're opening a Bigfoot museum

707
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.039
in Blue Ridge, at first,
it's like, oh man, really,

708
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:13.400
our area hasn't been starting to be
a little bit more touristy. So I

709
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.280
was thinking, oh man, this
is gonna be something corny. It's gonna

710
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.760
have all these things in there.
It's just gonna make fun of it,

711
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:24.960
it's just gonna be something awful,
and it's the exact opposite that David has

712
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:30.800
done an amazing job of putting this
thing together. He does use it as

713
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.599
a hub to run his research out
of, so that it is a safe

714
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.239
place for people to come and if
you're just curious about the subject matter,

715
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.679
or even if you're just looking for
something fun to do, if it's not

716
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.559
necessarily your cup of tea. I
tell people all the time of hey,

717
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.400
if it's not your thing, you
can how many times can you save into

718
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.119
a Bigfoot museum? And I usually
get a good laugh out of people from

719
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:54.920
that. Amanda, thank you so
much for coming on. What's if people

720
00:55:55.199 --> 00:56:00.440
want to I always ask this,
if people want to reach out to you

721
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:06.159
and maybe they have something they want
to share with you about your encounter,

722
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.760
is there any way they can reach
out to you or anything like that.

723
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:12.840
Yeah, they can reach out to
me on any of my social media's.

724
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.360
Again, I just made the online
personality of Amanda the Bigfoot Lady as a

725
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.400
way too I can do exactly that
so that I can interact and talk with

726
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:27.920
witnesses and our customers in the museum. So you can see me on any

727
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:32.079
of the social media accounts TikTok,
Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. You can

728
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.800
even throw in my email address in
there if you want, which is just

729
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:40.119
Amanda the Bigfoot Lady at Gmail.
And of course always hit up the museum.

730
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:44.079
You can just look us up.
If you just look up Expedition Bigfoot

731
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:50.559
dot com on any web search,
it'll pull up our museum and we'll be

732
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.480
more than happy to talk with you. We are a safe place for people

733
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:58.480
to share any kind of encounters and
stories, anything or even if you just

734
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.480
have questions about it. That's what
we're here for. We're here to help.

735
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:06.280
That's fantastic. The more places we
have, the better where it's a

736
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.400
safe place for people to share what
they saw and have questions answered. But

737
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:14.480
thanks so much for coming on tonight, Amanda. Oh, it's been a

738
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.599
pleasure to amur. I absolutely just
wanted to take a few minutes to say

739
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.920
thank you to you all my listeners
for listening to the podcast. Please take

740
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If you've had a bigfoot encounter related
to the following or know someone who has,

746
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:55.960
please reach out to me at Bigfoot
Society at gmail dot com or pass

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on my email. Here's the list. Number one encounters from Franklin County,

748
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:07.159
Texas. Number two encounters from the
entire state of Iowa. Number three encounters

749
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:12.719
from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding
area. Number four any individuals that know

750
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.280
about bigfoot being flown off after the
Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five.

751
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:22.360
Individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter
while in the military. Number six those

752
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.239
that have had a bigfoot encounter in
the southern New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts

753
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.760
area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts. Number seven individuals that have had a

754
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:36.639
bigfoot encounter in a Bible camp or
boy Scout camp setting. Number eight individuals

755
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.360
that have had bigfoot try to enter
their house forcibly while they were living inside.

756
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:45.679
Number nine individuals that have actively have
a bigfoot living on their property.

757
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:52.960
And lastly, any sightings that are
in the Wachitaw National Forest area of Oklahoma

758
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:58.039
or Arkansas. A special thank you
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