The Agawam Bigfoot Returns | Massachusetts

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails in remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, I pick the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Chet today. Chet is an individual from out there in Massachusetts who I reached out to in the YouTube comments on a recent Massachusetts episode, and I believe it was specifically episode nine oh six where we talked to a witness from Agawam about a white creature that she saw galloping on all fours across Schools Street in Agawam, and Chat, I believe had left a very interesting comment. I reached out and so we were thankfully connected. But welcome to the show. Chat, how are you doing today?

1:10 I'm doing good man. Glad to be here and have a platform to speak about it. Absolutely. I always like to mention that I did grow up in western Massachusetts. It was up in Franklin County and Northfield. So if any listeners are listening to this and know about stuff around Northfield to do with Bigfoot, reach out to me please. It's a Bigfoot Society gmail dot com. But down in your area, there's more and more stuff coming out recently on the show everywhere from Cobble Mountain. We talked to the Vogel Brothers recently, and then we just mentioned this siting in Agoam that was referred to, and I'm really interested to hear what you had experienced in this area as well, Chet, So I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to you.

1:58 Feel free to take us through what you experienced that day and then we will chat about it. Yeah, absolutely, thank you, thank you. So Yeah, listen to the one you had on a few weeks back about the woman in Agawam on School Street. This happened to me probably, I think it was twenty ten or eleven, and I believe hers was two thousand and nine. But I just maybe want to talk about it. But I was driving from She knows that area, and I'm sure you might know someone of that area. Franklin County does have a lot of wooded areas around there too, by the way, I've been up there plenty of times. But yeah, I was driving home. I lived in Southook at the time, and I was passing through Agawam, the Feeding Hills area. The people in Nagawam probably understand that. But I was on the highway. I was on fifty seven and probably like five six car lanks ahead of me. There was no one in front of me with this one car, but it was about five six cars ahead of me, and it was a nighttime. I was driving with my friend, and like the highways, I think it was like a three lane highway at that point. No, it turns to a two lane on each side. It starts off as a three and about halfway down the highway there's some wooded areas on both sides. Out of nowhere, seemingly we're driving to Southwick area from like the Springfield area. Out of nowhere, like in front of us, we see on the media and this giant creature. I don't know what it was. It didn't look like a bear didn't look like a moose. It was probably in between those sizes.

3:17 It was bigger than the front of the car. So it pops out of the median, jumps and runs across the highway. The car in front of us had to completely swerve out of the way. I'm talking like dramatically swerve, cut the wheel and they regained themselves, but they kept going and all that, and me and my friend were like in shock. This thing like galloped on. It seemed like an all fours. The back end was like higher than the front end. It didn't. It was a lot bigger than a bear. It was in between the sides of a bear and a moose. And when it came out of nowhere, the car swerved around it, and it just galloped across the highway and flew into the woods next to us, and me and my friend were just in shock. I honestly wish I caught up to that car up there to maybe try to flag them down and ask them what it was. But yeah, that's pretty much the story. It's not a lot. But when I heard that woman's story, I was I was curious to see where it was, and she said School Street, which is near there. Obviously it's the same agone as a small town, but yeah, it made me think of that.

4:13 And it wasn't like white, though it was definitely a darker color it was. It seemed like a dark gray to me. The way it galloped across, like the back end was like higher than the front end, and it had like a strange gait to it, like it wasn't a bear. The thing was fast. It wasn't like it wasn't like lightning fast like a lot of the stories I hear about people saying they gallop through here there in the short amount of time. But it was fast. It definitely wasn't. I don't I really don't even know what it was. I can't even explain it. It was the craziest thing I ever seen, and me and my friend were in shock about it. And I actually called him like last week to ask him if he remember this, and he was like, oh yeah, he told me thinks about it all the time. And I asked him like all the same, like everything about what he saw, and it was everything I saw. So all of our details lined up, and so we both saw the thing and I just no idea what it was. It was massive, It was massive, and it was just the way it galloped like it was very strange, very strange, and it was gone in an instant once it across the highway.

5:13 And the strange thing is we didn't even see it come from the other side too. It just all of a sudden, and neither did the car in front of us. All of a sudden, it just popped out and the car had to cut the wheel to go around it, and the thing just kept galloping across and it was gone in the woods. And it's only it's like us, a little small section of woods, but I know Robinson State Park is over there in Agaalam, which is pretty big. And then you go further towards the Southwick area you get to Grandville, definitely some miles away, but you go from Agalon to Southwick to Grandville and it's all massive amounts of woods up there. But that's pretty much my story. It's nothing crazy, it's not a lot, it's not a big story, but it was definitely interesting and I never left my mind. I've been thinking about it all the time, and hearing her story from aga about the white albino that was really really interesting. Just maybe want to talk about it a check.

6:07 That's some wild stuff, man. I would love to go over some things just to get a better viewpoint of where this happened in the Agawam area. Do you think it was? So was it near Robinson where you were driving or if you. Have I don't know if you have, if you're on a laptop or anything, or if you can pull up a map real quick if you google, I guess you can just google Agaalam Mass and you can go over to the highway area. It's right on fifty highway is fifty seven. It's definitely north of it. It was definitely running in that direction. So just Henry bouderta Hall Highway, Henry eboderta Highway. Do you see that? Let me take a look here, like it's one of the moon roads or yes, so that that is fifty seven. Yep, that's the highway I was on. So if you look to the north of that, like northwest a little bit, you'll see like Robinson State Park. Yes, so that's where the park is. But so he was I was like literally like southeast of that, like slightly before the end of the highway, and it came across from the south and was going north up towards that way. I guess it's a little ways away, and you can see there's no wooded area. There's a little small wooded area actually right off the side of the highway and that's literally that's like where we were. But look, if you could see it, that's a small area. If you got the terrain set on your map, you can see like the wooded area in the middle of that stretch of the highway, okay,

7:38 and that's where it was, like literally in between there. It came from the south part of the woods and went to the north and it's just a small wooded area past that. I guess it's like between you can see the Garden Street and the Mill Street exits, gotcha, and you can travel if you travel south from there, you can see there's woods and there's like a line of woods. But whatever it was could have came through all that, but it was going north and if you look north, it's all like neighborhoods. There's small sections of wood until you get to Robinson State Park, which is right there. Yes, I okay, I totally see it. Now I'm on on X and I'm able to see it a lot better then. Yeah, there's a lot of little kind of wooded areas on either side of the highway.

8:24 Yeah. So if you can see where the high school is, do you see the high school on your map, Aglon High School? Yeah? So south of that, like southwest, southwest of that a little bit like where the highways all surrounded by woods. That's where we were. So he if you follow that south, you can see there's wooded areas where he could have came from, or he or shere or whatever. But and then if you go further north, which is the direction it was going, there are little patches until you get to State Park and it was nighttime. I just it's so weird. I don't know where he would have gone or come from. It's not it's not like a crazy wooded. Area really makes a lot of sense when you look at it with that particular view. It lines up with exactly the other stories that you hear from other major cities about like the green belts or the sections of wood that Bigfoot or other animals could follow into a city, or in this case, trying to get to a larger area like Robinson State Park where you have the Westfield River as well. So that's pretty cool. Thank you for walking me through there.

9:32 Yeah, And if you look further north, like towards the State park, like pretty much the road that runs like west and eat to east or whatever, that's North Street right where that woman said she I think she said it was North Street right. Let me check on my. I'm sorry, yep. So School Street is over over by the Connecticut River across from Forest Park. What time of day was that sighting? Again? It was about eight thirty nine o'clock at night. It was dark out. It was like summertime, definitely, remember that. Yeah, it was dark out, but we could see the thing like like to me, my friend said, he remembers it being black. I remember being like a dark gray, like it was offset from the background of the dark the dark out. It stood out not like a glow to it, but because of the color, like I could see like the whole everything. It was like five the car was like five six like lengths of a car ahead of us, And that's that's how far away it was. But and then the back end stood up like higher than the hood of the car, like actually the whole thing did.

10:43 But the back end was like real definitely probably like a foot or two above the hood, and the front end of it was still above the hood too. You can see it just galloped across. Okay, so you see gallop across. Both parts front and back are above your hood. What's the car that you're driving again. I was driving a Mazda three like a little I guess. I guess the Dan and the car in front of me. I remember it because it was it was one of those Subaru wagons like the Foresters. Okay, I just remember it. I remember clear today because I just it's rained in my head and I remember the whole thing.

11:24 Let's see five to six car lengths that would probably be well like seventy five ninety feet you think. Yeah, definitely is definitely I would say, yeah, that's accurate. Okay, definitely, no more than one hundred feet away. So you're seeing the profile of it definitely as it's running across the road. How many seconds in all do you think what you saw took? Maybe four or five seconds tops go. I'm just trying to map and think about it. Yeah, it had to be about that because if you could see you see the overhea, there's like a median. There's obviously two parts of the highway, and it came from the median when we first seen it, like I didn't even see it come from the left, and there was it was a nighttime, there was no cars on that side. It's not a busy highway as it is in less during work hours, but it's like a small stretch of highway that just connects you from Magua on the springfield. So it's like there was no cars coming on the other way. So when I it started in the median and there's a guardrail, I don't even remember seeing it jump the guard I just remember seeing something out of just split second, and then the car in front of us swerved it had it like swerved left towards the median around it because the thing was coming from the left to the right.

12:36 So the car like swerved over and like we've seen the whole thing. It just didn't even stop, really, it just kept galloping the way it did so four or five seconds because the stretch of there's like a stretch of grass probably like actually another about one hundred feet if that that before the woods hits. So it cleared that and it like forced four to five seconds from the median. Yeah, that's really quick in that time. Did you were you able to notice anything so like the hair of it, was it flowing as it was running across, or seemed to be short enough that wasn't really flowing as it went. Well, it was like strangely seemed patchy. When I was thinking about it, after it almost had, I started looking up bears with mange because it reminded me almost of something like an animal that would have mange where it's scraggly looking a little bit. But it definitely wasn't a bear with mange from all the pictures I seen, But it just seemed it had It just seemed patchy like the thing itself wasn't scraggly like a thing was big, but it like the fur on it or hair or whatever like it. It was covered like most of the body, but it seemed like patchy in areas from what I can remember.

13:54 When you saw it go across in front of you, were you able to notice anything about the head part of it, the shape of it, or any details at all. And not specifically because it was too far away, and like by the time and it was going across, it was already passed us. We seen the side of it, in the back end of it I did see it seemed like it like a round kind of head, like a typical like big foot type thing you would think of, like a gorilla type head. And that's why I know it wasn't a bear though, because that's part of why I know it wasn't a bear. For one, the sheer size of it, but for two, the I didn't see like a snout. We've seen the side of it, and it looked like I didn't see a snout or anything like that. That's what confused me and my friend too, because we're like, is that a freaking bear? What's going on?

14:41 And yeah, that confused us. So I know for sure it wasn't a bear, and it didn't have a huge snout or anything like that. It's a great detailed chet to throw out there, so no snout, which would have been the dead giveaway that it's a bear. So instead of that snout, then what are you seeing in that side view? Just like I guess the only thing I could think of is like if you picture the side of a gorilla's head or like a monkey head or something like that, but proportionate to the size of the body, like. It probably would have been hard to see because of the viewpoint you had in your car, But at any point could you see down the lower part of whatever was running like what would have been hands or that part of the body at all.

15:34 Unfortunately, No, I didn't get a good enough look at it to see that. It was too dark. It was like dark down like towards the bottom. Fortunately, the car in front of ust the headlights hit it too, so that helped me see it obviously. But when the headlights were on, it was obviously in front of the car, and so when I served around it, we could still see it, and we were getting a little closer as it like shot off to the right. But no, I didn't get it. Didn't really get to get a look at it feet really. No, did it seem to have a tail or anything at all when you saw it go past? No, no tail, We didn't see a tail. I didn't, gotcha.

16:15 And just to check, so you mentioned that one of the things that made you think this is definitely not a bear, you were able to talk about that. Were there any other things that stick out in your mind that make you think, Okay, this is definitely not a bear. What I just saw, well, definitely the size of it. I live in right now where I live in the woods, like I see bear often, like the house where I live. In my house, it's surrounded by woods and our driveways like a long dirt road. There's a main road off, not a main road but a side road. But so I've seen plenty of bear come through. I obviously know what bear looked like. It was huge. That was the first thing when I knew it wasn't a bear. And then talking about my friend, We're like, dude, we didn't see it fronts now, the whole thing. We were talking about it the whole, and we talked about it for weeks after that obviously, but no, the size of it, like the whole, the fact that it stood out. You could see the whole upper part of its body, like from as it was bent down, you could see like the torso whole section of it basically, and it was just stood up over the car as it was bent down on four legs or whatever. And it just did not look like a bear. There's from that alone, and then had not having a snout, how fast it was going compared to a bear bear. Bears can run fast, I know that, and they can climb a tree real fast.

17:33 But it was just way too big. And if I'm if I remember correctly, I believe a bear actually ran into the side of a car on that same highway like years back. You'd have to double check that. But if I remember correctly, when I first moved out here, I remember hearing about that, but that's not relevant here. But that alone, though the size of it, I knew it wasn't a bear. Me and my friend were joking around calling it a choop of kabra, just like jokingly, and but obviously it wasn't that or anything. But yeah, just the sheer size of it alone, We're like, what is that? That is not a bear? I mean it just galloped the way it moved like, it just galloped almost like a horse, I guess, but like with the back end a lot higher. Wow, the back end could have probably been about five feet because if the front of a Subaru Forester was like, I don't know, maybe three and a half four three and a half feet, I don't know the front end four feet, but it definitely was about a foot or two above the front of the car for sure.

18:31 If you can imagine what you saw run across the road, stop and then stand up, how tall. Would you estimate that to be when it's standing up. I'd have to say eight feet maybe maybe a little, probably closer to nine feet. It was big. It was big. It definitely eight to nine feet, closer to than nine feet, because if the back end stood up a couple of feet tops over the front of the car, the station wagon there, the forest there. Yeah, I would have to say another four feet. It was big. It was long too, so it basically was as long as when it was on all fours. It was as long as wide as the car, like the side of it.

19:17 Oh, okay, gotcha. Interesting you said that there are parts of it like it was covered in a patchy here. Were you able to see any muscles at all as it ran or anything like that? Not definitely, not like any definition of muscles. But it was thick. It was definitely like a thick thing like its arms and legs and all that, and its body was like really beefy. And but I couldn't see any type of definition or anything like that, any muscle definition or anything. After you had this sighting, of course, you had someone else with you there in the car, which is awesome.

20:00 Is your friend who you mentioned? Is this a story that you started to share around people that you knew, or is it something that you really haven't talked about a lot about. I have a small circle as it is. I did tell my family my family is interested in this stuff too, and they believe in this stuff, like my parents and I have a one brother. I did mention it to them, talked about it definitely my friend all the time. I may have mentioned it to a couple other friends in passing and just talking about it, and but nothing to this point or extent. But I've just been watching more of this stuff and more of your show than hearing people talk about it, and I feel like it's time I can talk about it. Not that I didn't feel like I couldn't before, but I just hearing the woman from talk about the albino one like really made me like I want to talk about it too, because that's it's close to home.

20:52 Absolutely. I think a lot of people are starting to feel that they hear from shows like this and like it's for some reason it's okay to start sharing what what they've experienced. It's helping other people in the same area. And how did so you mentioned that you do you listen to some shows. And after you had that sighting, how did that? How did that affect you after that? Did you Some people will react in different ways in the days afterwards. No, I just it just made me believe more, really, And I don't know if it was a bigfoot really, I don't know, but it made me just more believing I did already at that point. I wasn't into all the YouTube shows there are actually there wasn't like it is now on the internet obviously, but I wasn't into I was into like like that stuff like bigfoot and stuff like that, but I didn't follow shows or anything like that. I've watched stuff here and there, but I never had anything happen to me or never had any experiences.

21:56 And but I'm not an avid. I like to go hiking and stuff, but I haven't got to like deep mountains and slept overnight and stuff like that. And yeah, absolutely, And did you ever take any time in the years afterwards to look around the area or to see if you could find any other things that had happened people having sightings or encounters in this area of Massachusetts. I actually didn't. I don't know why. I know, I think about it, but I actually didn't know. I didn't do any searches or anything. Really, I don't know. I really don't know why I didn't, but I didn't really think about that. What was it like when you had seen that, probably the episode of this same show where another person had a sighting of something very similar but a different color.

22:47 How did that affect you? I was like, actually excited when I was just scrolling my feet and I seen as I follow your show and I see it in the post on AGONALM. I was like what I And then I closed my YouTube hour. I was like crap, and I had the research and I was like I finally found it, and I was like, oh yeah, And then it just got me excited because I was like very extremely interested. And then she said the timeframe and I was like that was a little bit before. But then I was like, you know, what if that was the same same thing and it was the baby of it or something, or hearing more of her story, I don't guess it could have been, but it wasn't white, so that disappointed me. I was like, oh man, I was hoping there was more of a connection, but I still think there could be a connection. Who knows, But hearing her talk about it and mentioned that it was really cool, and it got me like excited to want to tell my story too, and at least tell you guys what I've seen.

23:44 Absolutely, chat, I appreciate you spending some time this afternoon talking about what you experienced in Eguam, Massachusetts that day, what you saw across the road in front of you. Thank you so much for coming on the show to talk about that. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you would want to share today about your encounter. Yeah, I believe I did so. I did want to mention I don't know, I've heard a lot of you bigfoot stories where there'll be UFO connections and stuff like that. Sure, I don't know how much you've delved in or heard about. I'm sure you've heard things like that. I just thought that it was strange because when I moved out here, it was it like two thousand and one or two or no, two thousand and four. But anyway, when I moved out here, there was a show I think it was called UFO Hunters on TV and they actually had a segment about Southfolk, Massachusetts and how there was a UFO siting. It was actually feature on the show. I found that to be really interesting when I first moved out there, I never seen anything like that on a show that was like from where I am, so that was interesting. I don't know if there's any connection between UFOs and Bigfoot or anything like that, but it was interesting to me. There's nothing to do with it, and if you cut this out, that's fine.

25:00 No, you're good. It's important, I think to know that kind of stuff because a lot of times, if you dig deeper into the areas where there are sightings like this, you're going to find other stuff happening too. You're going to find either UFO stuff or strange lights in the woods orbs. You might even find encounters with other cryptids like dog mam, all sorts of weird stuff, and that kind of is a whole thing in its own. It's like, why does the weird stuff happen in all these areas has always happened? There is it happening now because some kind of you know, veil is thinning. There's so many hypothesis that one can do, but it is very interesting, I think to look into other stuff that's happening in the areas where now we know there's two sightings of something weird Bigfoot related that across the road in front of two different people, and not two just years apart.

26:02 So pretty interesting. Chef beat Chet, keep us in the loop if things do, if you do experience things in the future, or if you do hear about other things happening in the same area, we'd love to hear about it. You're welcome to reach out and we'd love to talk to you about that. Absolutely, man. I appreciate the opportunity, man, and it's been great, and I love that you do this and give people this chance to talk about it and feel comfortable about it, and it's just a great community. Appreciate it, man, Absolutely, thanks for hanging out today. Chet. Before we go, here's a voicemail update about another recent Massachusetts episode.

26:44 Yes, I just listened to the North Shore Bigfoot encounter in Croveland, Georgetown area, in the Swamp area. I know exactly what the persons talking about my income. I shouldn't say encounter. It's still unknown. But what happened was me and my wife are on a motorcycle. We've had to travel a back road and we had to see a man about a horse and we drove up that road. It hadn't been blocked off yet with the gate with the fire road gate poking loon wasn't there yet. At the top of the hill, I turned the motorcycle around. She got off to do every thing. I got off to do mine, my hair and my next stood up in the back of my neck, and if I was totally freaked for one second, and about twenty feet away, my wife says, somebody's watching us. And I kept looking around.

27:38 In our minds, we saw something. She has a description of what she saw. I have a description of what I saw, and only my mind. It wasn't in reality. But we got on that motorcycle and scooted it right out of there. Since I've blocked off that road, they did put a parking lot in that we've been back there. It's definitely area where I would think that these types of humans would live. Thank you. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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