The Basement Howler! | Missouri

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0:43 Welcome to big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode, and if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes head on over to Patreon dot com forward slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Ronda tonight. Ronda is a listener from Missouri that reached out to me with some really interesting things that she has experienced over her lifetime.

1:35 But it's a privilege to have you on the show tonight. Ronda. How's it going. It's going great, awesome. We were talking a little bit before the show, and I'm excited to hear where this is going to go. You told me a few things, and you shared some photos beforehand, and as really sounds like some interesting stuff. But I'm going to go ahead and hand it over to Ronda, and it sounds like this is going to start way back when you were a little kid, you had stuff going on. Yeah, I was five or six years old whenever it all started. I was born and raised in Rogers, Arkansas, and my mother is from Rogers and my biological father was from Eldorado, Arkansas. And in the summers I would go and stay sometimes with my grandparents in El Dorado, and sometimes I would stay with my aunt and Rogers and in Elderado, Arkansas, with my grandma and Grandpa Calloway.

2:35 They lived on a highway and they had a big property. They lived off the land. They had two big gardens that went all the way down to the timber that had a timberline all the way around their property. And Grandpa Calloway had rules that were strictly enforced. He didn't allow for children, and he said no children were to be outside by themselves, period not They had to be under the supervision and under the eyes of an adult at all times. And I snuck out one time because I was always going outside, and he caught and he told me no more. I wasn't to be outside period because there was razorbacks out there in the tree lines and if I got back in there, they could get me.

3:27 And I just loosely ignored it. But at night. What was interesting was a lot of times at night he would be in the back of the house, off the back porch and he would be shooting into the tree line and cussing and just renting and raving and carry him on like some was trying to get into the yard that he didn't want there. And I asked him what he was shooting at and he said he was shooting at armadillos because he was getting in his warm bed. And I said, I have never seen an armadillo that you shot. When he said that in order the way he was shooting, there had been an army of armadilla's coming up in the yard, I just didn't find it believable. Even though I was a child, I've always been how do I put it, I understood more than what most children did. I paid attention to what was going on around me. I didn't I don't know. I just didn't.

4:16 I just new I had these I had to feel things. It was just different. And one year, whenever I was what time was it in nineteen seventy three or nineteen seventy where I was live or six years old, my great aunt she took me out into the gardens and she took me down the peanut aisle where they was growing penuts and was explaining to me how penuts grew under the ground. We didn't go all the way down, and we got halfway down to the tree line, and all of a sudden we heard something and it was walking towards us and my aunt. All of a sudden stopped, grabbed me and put my legs around her waist, my arms around her neck, and said, don't you dare to let go of me. I have to run as fast as I can and get to the house now. And she took off running to the house. And while, of course, while she was running to the house, I was looking behind her, and I was looking into the tree line, and in the tree line there was a big black shadow in that tree line. It didn't come out of the tree line, but it was there, and I wasn't scared at the time, but it was enough that it scared me. I got to thinking about it. But my real dad, but my biological father, said he was always he was always obsessed with anything to do with bigfoot.

5:41 And now that I'm an older adult, now I can understand why, because on that property there had to be on bigfoot that he knew. He either experienced them or he's seen them or both, because from my own personal experience that when you see them or you experience them, it changes you. And it caused him to be obsessed with anything was bigfoot that was on the TV or books or whatever. He was all in it. Whenever I was five or six when I was when I was eight, I think it was eight years old when my mom left him and got a divorce and I didn't see him anymore. But every time we went to Arkansas, I didn't sleep. My mom would flight with me, want me to go to sleep, and I would never sleep. I was up in the middle of the night looking out the windows and watching the tree lines because my Grandma Jones lived by the Haller. It's down at the base of the mountains over by Beaver Lake. He lives over by Beaver Lake. And I would play down in the haller and stuff during the day and I would hear like footsteps and I would turn around and see if there was anything there, and nah, there was never nothing there.

6:52 But every once in a while I got a creepy feeling and I would go back up to the house and I would go back down there. But at night I would watch the tree lines and out the windows because I had a sense that there was something there but I couldn't see it, and it was terrifying to me. And that just went on for my whole childhood. That there wasn't any more experiences or any more or anything until I was older. Whenever I became an adult, I moved back to Arkansas and there there wasn't anything that went on then. And then let's see, in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four, Yeah, that in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four, my husband and I my first hus murdered my second husband and I moved to the country out on a road called Sunnyvale Road in Bramham, Missouri, as in Caldwell County, is out by the conservation area in Caldwell County. And my ex husband I used to tell him all the time he was a hunter, and I tell him all the time, you need to be watching what you're doing because there are big foot out there.

8:04 And he would laugh at me and he would make fun of me, and it really rially killed me over it. He said, been hunting all his life and never seen or heard of such a thing. There wasn't no such thing. And I said, I'm telling you, there is no such thing. I seen one when I was a kid, but we'd moved out there on Sunny Vale and it was a two store a double wide trailer on a full basement, and there was off into the back there was a tree line with a creek, a dried up creek bed, and then on back there was two ponds that was back there, and there was a big field back there. And one night, in the middle of the night, it was really hot and my kids were in bed, and I was sitting at the kitchen table with the window open, reading my Bible, and I heard something out in the back of the house. And there was no lights out there, pitch dark, and I could seen with them, but I heard something. It was big. It was a scuffle, and it sounded like something something big got taken down out there.

9:11 All you heard was discovered, but there was a pound. It was like something who got pounded on the ground, something big. And it really alarmed me. And the next morning I got up and I got me a pistol, and I went out there and went looking for footprints. I was looking for blood. I was looking for any type of evidence that what I heard, and I didn't find anything. There was nothing, not even a place where the grass was padded down where something had been laying or whatever had went on. And I never found nothing.

9:53 And later on another night, I was sitting in the again his one bed, sleeping and snil My ex husband was working nights. So I was there by myself. I had the window open, and I was reading my Bible, and my cat was laying on the bar. There was a bar, and the cat was laying on there, curled ut, sleeping, And all of a sudden I heard something downstairs, and I stopped and I listened, and this sounded like something was ransacking the downstairs, just going through everything. And I'm like, what in the world was going on down there? And all of a sudden, what was down there howled, and it was a howl that brought the hair on the back of my neck standing up, and I had goose bumps, and I sent a chill down my spine. And my cat was fully asleep, rolled up in a ball, sat up and done a roar like a lion, like on wine king. That cat had never done that before, and he had never done that after. And the time that thing was how when the cat was doing that, and then all of a sudden stopped and everything went quiet and there was nothing else. I went and got a gun, and I sat all night long because the only thing I could think of was what if it gets upstairs?

11:14 Because there was a door down at the end that had stairs to come upstairs through the floor and the next door, next room over. So I sat there with a chair watching that door and watching the front door with a gun all nine until it got light and my ex husband come in the next morning and I finally went and laid down, went to sleep, and he asked me, he said, what went on here? Because I had a really weird feeling whenever I come in, and I said, let me tell you about my mind. I went downstairs to look at everything, and there was nothing that had been touched, absolutely nothing, but the door was left open. Now in order for that door to be opened up, it took handstones, and I knew exactly what had been down in that basement. I knew what it was. Though.

12:10 What really bothered me was nothing looked like he had been touched. And then Ron moorehead comes up and he had the same thing happened in his camp. And I just found that out, just did a year or so ago by listening to him. But when I heard him give that explanation of what went on in that camp, I was like, well, that's exactly what happened to me in my basement when I lived down on Sunny Vail. Can you just for listeners that are overly familiar. Can you talk real quick about what part exactly that Ron Moore had had happened to him that you found was similar to what happened in your basement.

12:53 Oh, whenever they went to bed at night, that it sounded like they was going through their camp like daves ransacked in the camp. That they would get up the next morning there wouldn't be nothing touched. Everything would be the same. Thank you. And you're saying that this was happening directly. This was inside your house, not outside. This was inside. Yes, it was in the basement. It was downstairs in the basement, and the only thing that was keeping it from coming upstairs was a door, and I was open, was shut and locked. But the only loft that was on it was one of them little walks that kind that goes through the eye. That's the only lot that door had on it. So it could have very easily opened that door and come up the stairs. Yeah. I was terrified. Here. I was by myself, no phone, no vehicle, and the closest neighbor was a half mile down the road, and I had something in my basement that had howled and sent my cat to acting crazy.

13:56 Have you heard any sound that comes even close to that howl that you heard that night? Oh yeah, thickfoot? Okay, wow yeah yeah, okay, thank goodness. Oh yeah. I knew what it was. There was no doubt in my mind. I knew what it was because there had been stories that they were out on the conservation land. I keep a pretty ear, pretty close ear to the ground, you know, listening to stories that people again that people were telling, you know, because where there's smoke, there's fire. It may not be the exact truth, but there are some truths to it. And I had been hearing some things like there was a some people that was working with bulldozers and it was about the evening time and they were getting ready to stop, and outcome of bigfoot from the uh from the tree line and scared them and they ran to their vehicle and was trying to get out, and it got dark on and then they couldn't find their way out, and there was a person in their house seeing that headlights in their pastor wanted to know what was going on and went out there and there was these two men that was trying to find a way out and told them that what had happened, And there was another guy that a friend of mine came and got me and her to go to a party. He just had a party out of his place. And it was way out in the middle.

15:26 I couldn't even tell you what talent it was. It was on the other side of cal Hill, Missouri. It was just one of the little old towns that just in the middle of nowhere. And he stopped and said, I want you guys to hurry up and get in the house, and I'll leave the headlights on so you get in. Big for a society will be right back after these messages. Yeah, and said, why don't you just come Why don't you just come in with us? He said, no, there's bigfoot out here, and I'll make sure you get in the house. And I'm like, what, and he said, no, there are He said they walk around the house at night.

16:10 They're always trying to look in the windows. They're always knocking on the side of the house. Okay, So I knew they were in the area, and that's the reason why I was telling my ex husband, you need to be careful because they are here. And this is all in Caldwell County, Missouri. An hour northeast of Kansas City pretty much. Yeah, wow, Yeah, it's a little town. And then we moved back to town and I had nightmares, horrible nightmares after that, horrible nightmares. They were so vivid that I would have waked up and I would be in a cold sweat. I wouldn't even know where I was at.

16:56 It took me a little bit to realize that I was in my bedroom, in my and I was Okay. That's how vivid they were after that. For years after that, I had that problem, and then there wasn't any more. There wasn't any more else that went on except for I went I well hunting. I tried going hunting with my ex husband and he would leave me and I would just He took me out at his uncle's place, and I didn't like his uncle's place. I kept telling him I don't like it out here. I don't want to be out here, and he said no, I said no, I'm telling you they're out here. I'm telling them, no, I'm not. I don't want to be out here. And his uncle would tell me, you need to come out here and get some apples off these trees, because if you don't get these apples. The deer going to get them overnight, they're gonna be gone. And I said, there ain't no way. Then then that deer are gonna eat that many apples in it, And you said, no, they'll all be gone in one night. The ones up in the top of the tree too. No, the deer couldn't reaching clear up there, but I knew what could and I didn't like being out there. And he left me, and I just went and walked myself back to the truck and sat and way the morning because now I could feel him. They just no, I wasn't doing no more of it, and I never went out hunting with him no more after that. And then there wasn't no more activity. I've no more. I've always been taking my kids camping and we go for long walks, and just

18:30 I've always been outdoors. And in twenty thirteen I left my ex husband and I moved into a little place in Hamilton, Hamilton, Missouri, and it too is not too far from not too far from Sunnyvale over by the conservation land, and I had my landlord that I moved in. She rented me her basement and we became pretty good friends. And she told me. I want you to be careful out here because I seen a bear And I said what.

19:10 She said, I seen a bear And I said, we don't have bear around here. She says, I'm telling you I know what I seen and it was a bear. And I said where did you see this bear? She said it was down down the road and I said, okay. I said, what what would you doing when you've seen this bear? She said, I was just driving down coming home, she said, and I've seen it down by the trees. It's down that creek. There's a creek down there, she says, And I seen that bear down there, she said. I stopped and I backed up, but it disappeared. She said, I don't know where it went, but I seen a bear. And I said, you don't see no bear. She said yeah. I said, no, you didn't see no bear. But you couldn't convince her of anything, so I just kept it to myself. I knew what it was. I knew a bear.

19:56 You would have seen a bear when you were stayed. It's not going to just disappear because the humans there they don't care. But I knew what did and it's there one minute and gone the next. So I'm like, okay, I just let her believe that she had a bear. And then she told me to watch the coyoks. She said, you've seen a wolf out there, and I said, oh, you just see no wolf out here. There ain't no wolves. She said, I saw what I seen a big dog. There's a big wolf, said I know where it was that I seen. Well, whatever, and then her dog. I noticed her dog every night with wanting to go run off every night at the same time, every night, at the same time. It's inger. Did you know where your dog is going? She said, I don't know. She said he always comes back. And I said, no, that dog is going every night at the same time. There is something coming on this property that he is trying to keep all of this property. That's the reason why he's doing that. And you need to figure out what he's doing because if you don't, he could get hurt or killed.

21:01 You don't know what's going on. You're telling me that there's a bear out here, and you got this dog running off like this, doll, Ain't nothing going to happen to him. He always comes back. I said, all right, And then my dog started wanting to do the same thing. But he was just a little pooval. He wasn't going nowhere, and I had him changed up anyway. But I had been't live in there for maybe three or four months, and I started working at the nursing home in Hamilton, Missouri, and I started working the night shift, and at night I was driving down the way. She'd seen this bear and I started smelling. It wasn't every night, just every once in a while, and I was like, thinks that's future.

21:47 I don't know, but but Sue is just going to be all that. You're going to smell more. Just wanting to Blue Moon, And I thought, I don't know what's going on there, but I'm going on. And I got to where I quit going that way because it just it was creepy. It was really dark, and it was just it just seemed no. I just didn't want to go down that way, so I started going the other way because I felt better going the other way. Then I come home from work and Inga started telling me. She said, I need to watch whenever you come home from work at night, or when you come home when you leave for work at night. And I said why, She said, the neighbors down the streets their little boy was home by and somebody was trying to open the doors and get into the house, and I said what She said, yeah, she said it was an intruder trying to get into the house, was trying the doorknobs to get in. And I said, I'm like, okay, this is getting real. I know what does that? And it scared the little boy. And later on I started asking that cats started disappearing out of the yard. Can't if you have all kinds of cats, all kinds of them. I said, do you know where your cats are going? Because your cats are disappearing, you don't have as many cats as you did. She said, I don't know. She said, I'm not paying no attention. And I said, well, you need to pay attention, do I. They're just out there and get out there catching mice in the field. I know it is. But then you started telling me about in

23:19 the middle of the night when she was sleeping, something large had gotten up on the front porch. It was large enough that it shook the side of the house and woke her up. And she said her explanation of that was a bobcat had gotten up on the railing and had jumped down onto the patio, the wood patio, the deck after the cats, and I'm like, okay, so you got something now that is now on the patio here, and it has stripped the side and stripped the house. Whenever it that sounds to me like the coming up on the house. But I don't never told her nothing because she wouldn't have believed me anyway. Then I started working the three to eleven shift. I got a position, a new position to work in. I was working three to eleven shifts, so I was going into three coming home at eleven. Last one it got real interesting. I come home at night and they were surrounding me. They were making animal noises at me, owls, the owl sounds, and they it sounded like they were it's coming from the ground, and I'm like, okay, owls are really not They're not alarm birds. And as it was always going on, when i'd get out of the van or out of the out of the suv, I would get out and it would start, and it scared me, and I'd get that creepy feeling like I was praying there was something there.

24:53 So I hurry up and get into the the house and I told inga saying you need to put lights out there because I'm coming in at night and something's going on out here. I need some lights. And she said she didn't want to do that, and okay, So I went and bought a solar light that were motion detectors that was really bright, and I installed it above the door. I lived in the basement and that's where I come in and out was the basement and the patio that had a big concrete patio, and I drove my started driving my SUV up there and parking it on the patio so i'd be right there by the door and get right in the door. Because every night that I come home, this is going on. And one night I got out of my suv, I shut the door and I heard thump and I'm like, oh, crash.

25:51 Now they're throwing things. I knew that it hit the middle of the yard. I knew that word. I heard where it hit. And I'm like, okay, whatever they through, it's big and I'm not going to I'm not investigating this right now. I'm not doing it. I'm getting in the house. I hurried up and I got in the house, locked the doors, made sure that everything all the windows were shutting everything, and I went to my room, which there was no windows in my room, I could shut the door, and I felt like I was somewhat saved. I got up the next morning and went outside, and there was a big chunk of wood that I had cut up and threw out into a little pastward that was on the other side of the yard, on the side of the house. In order for that to be thrown, it had to have had hands, and it had to have been something big, because this was a big chunk of wood, and as far as it was thrown, oh yeah, And I knew there was no doubt in my mind what was going on. And I'm like, okay, there's a whole family of them out here. I quit going for walks.

27:00 I would go for walks in because I would walk nothing for me to walk a mile down the road and a mile back. And I quit doing that because I could feel like I was being followed and I was being watched, and I kept looking around in the directions that I thought it was coming from, and that I could never see nothing. Of course, I wasn't going to see anything. And back then I thought they were flesh and blood creatures back then, but now I understand that they have things that they can do. I'm like, no, wonder I could never see them. But to then one night I come home from work, I had I come home and Inga says, I need you up here, I need you now. And I said, why, what's going on?

27:45 She said, Bozo, he's got he stepped on a stick and it's left clear through his foot. And my first thought was what, I've never heard of that before. And I'm like, okay, I'm coming as So I went out there and he was whining whenever he's seen me, and here, let me see your paw. And I looked at his paw. I turned his leg up, his paw over, and I looked at her and I said, okay, Jinga, I said, this is where you wake up. I said, this was shoved through the top of this dog's foot, and it is a spear. This has been sharp into a into a spear. This has been sharpened and it's been shoved through the top of this dog's foot and broke off at the top. I said, whatever he's been chasing after fought back this time. And I can't do anything about this.

28:43 You're going to have to take him to the vet in the morning, and she took him to the vet, and the vet said the same thing I did. He told her, this dog, this is this was shoved through this dog's foot and it was sharpened. It's a sharpened stick. Had to have hands in order to sharpen a stick, had to have hands to show it through the top of this dog's foot, and had to have some pretty good aim too, and then broke it off. And she's from what I know now, she is really lucky that the dog even lives, that they even let the dog live. But after she had the dog to the vet, she brought him home. He put him on some antibiotics and told her, do not let him out running around because you don't want him to get an infection in his foot.

29:32 Take him outside and a leash and let him go to the bathroom or put him on a chain so that he's not running around. So she did, and I was at work. I had to work the night shift. I had to work over and I came home the next morning and Inga says, hey, I need you to listen to what I had to tell you. And I said what she said this morning at about four or five o'clock in the morning and Boso was doing nuts. He wanted to go outside so bad he couldn't stand it. Big for Society would be right back after these messages.

30:25 And she said, I thought he had the runs because he'd been on this antibiotic. She said, I got it, and I got dressed and I put him on his leash and I took him down. She said he was sniffing everywhere. She said. He took me out to the driveway, took me past the driveway, and he was taking me down towards the little pond when you come into the drive There was a pond there on the left hand side, that's a drive and it was surrounded by trees. He said. When he just about got me down halfway down to the pond, she said, something come at me. She said. It was screaming at me. She said, I could feel it in my chest vibrate, she said, terrified me. The dog was trying to get to whatever it was. She said, I was trying to get the dog. She said. I finally got him inside the house, and I said, why didn't you let the dog go? Do you not realize that you could have been killed whatever that was coming at you? Which I already knew what it was. I said, let me go downstairs. I'm gonna go downstairs and come back up. I'll be right back. I want you to listen and tell me if any of these things sounds like what you hurt. So I went down and come back up, and I had my computer and I was playing some bigs book sounds for I played the first one, she said no. I played the second one, she said no.

31:47 I played the third one. She said, I'm tired of listen to it on me here in the morning. That right there told me, by her reaction and by the look on her face and her body language, that was what she'd hurt. And I was like, Okay, she's got a whole whole bunch of these big foot hanging around out here. So I went digging around and come to find out that in Davies County, which is bordering Hamilton, Caldwell and Davies, which is bordering there had been a bigfoot sighting, and in fact, a BTHR researcher had come down to investigate with his daughter and they had seen a juvenile and an adult bigfoot in the area that they were investigating. That's right there on our back door, and I'm like, why are these why are they here?

32:40 I just I didn't understand why they were there. This is the funny part. I realized that I was using an alarm to wake me up to go to work, and it was a bigfoot yell. And I think they probably heard it and't come with. No way that it's incredible. That I can send you. I still have on my phone and I can send it to you. Was it like the Ohio howell? Or I can't. I don't know what it is. It's one that I didn't even tell you where I got it from. But I was using it for an alarm plot. My god, And when all of this crazy happened, that's when all the copies started to happen. But before they was already there because she was already telling me about the bear, and I knew it wasn't a bear. It couldn't have been a bear.

33:31 What's the year that this happened again? This was in twenty and thirteen, okay, thanks, And it went on till twenty and fourteen. When I moved out, I moved to Kansas City. And when I moved to Kansas City, I thought, okay, I'm now that there. There is no more Bigfoot. They are not here. I am not going in the big Foot area. I'm just flying, no problem. My dog died, my dog that I had passed away in twenty twenty one March, that's the twenty twenty one and I really had a hard time with that, and I ended up buying another little poodle, which is my little dog that I have now. Our name is Rose. And I started going and investigating places to go walk.

34:15 And I found out that there were nature areas in my area, and I'm like, hey, this is great. Even one of them, not even two miles from where I live, has a waterfall. I'm like, hey, I'm gonna go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go there and I'm going to enjoy this. I'm gonna take her for a walk and we're gonna we're gonna have a good time. I went to the one that has the waterfall first, and I pulled in and I got out on my vehicle and I started walking down the trail and I start seeing signs all around them like oh no, there is no way. I am not looking at this. I'm not gonna look at it. I don't want to see it.

34:58 I'm here to have a walk and I'm going to enjoy my walk. I'm going to find this waterfall and I'm going to look this waterfall and I'm going to have a good time. So I did. I come out of there, and I got hold of my mother and I said, Mom, I said, I don't know what to do. I said, here, I am. I'm in the city and I've already She didn't know about what went on in hambled and I never told her, but my kids did. I told my kids, but I said, I don't know what it is, but they keep showing up in my life. And I said, they've showed up again here in the city, and right here in the city. I don't know. I was devastated. Here I am, I'm terrified of them, and they keep showing up in my life. Oh here's another thing that happened. Whenever I was at ingerd I forgot about this one. I walked outside and found my fub covered in a yellow dust covered. It was nowhere else, and it was not parked near a tree to where it could blow pollen. I don't have any It was palling.

36:02 Later on I found out that it was pollen, but my vehicle was covered in it. And it wasn't on the ground, it wasn't on the it wasn't on the concrete, it wasn't on the grass, it wasn't on the side of the house. It was only on my SUV. I've always suspected that maybe they did that, But anyway, I was telling them another I said, I don't know, I don't know what to do. They are here and I'm not going to not go and walk, So here come. I started praying about it, and here comes Scott Carpenter. And when I watched his videos, it gave me a lot of understanding about how they tagged people. And I'm like, that must be the reason why they keep showing up in my life or where I go. And then they then that they are in the cities, and I watched his about where they stay in Kansas City's Full Caves.

37:04 I had a friend of mine that worked in the caves and she wanted me to come work there. And she says, at night, it's crazy there, she said. You hear things in the back of this cave, she says, and you don't know what it is. It's the craziest thing you ever heard. She was working in Lee's Summit. Well, they they was having sightings in Lee's Summit. Boy Scouts were going camping and they were having bigfoot that was coming into their camps and carrying on. So it's okay, there's caves there. There's caves all over Kansas City there are. He said. They were staying in old abandoned factories. We have lots of old abandoned factories. They like to be around the rivers. We have Missouri River that runs right through here. Yeah, and they like to sit on these nature areas and watch the people where we are their entertainment.

37:54 That makes sense. I went back to the place that had the waterfall, and it was like they was wanting me to know, Hey, we're here. I went to the waterfall and at the top of that waterfall, and I didn't send you a picture of it, but I have a picture of it, this great, big half a tree was right on top of the waterfall. And I looked at that for the longest time, and I thought, Okay, where did that come from? Because this creek is it's not deep enough to push something like that down the creek. And it didn't come rolling down the hill. There was nowhere because if it would have come rolling down the hill, there would have been because it was a cut log, it had been cut. Where did it come from? It had to have been carried in. There was no way other way for it to be put there. It had to be carried in. This is the only way. I walked up and down that whole creek area and down to the end. There was no way there. You couldn't even tell where it comes from. So I went walking on down a ways and there was a low lying area and I was standing there and I was looking up.

39:11 I had a feeling. I was looking up, and all of a sudden, I got a headache, and I'm like, okay, I need to get out of here. I told Rose that we're gonna we're gonna go back up to go back, and we're gonna go back home. We walked back to the vehicle, and when I got almost to the vehicle, a head itch quit as gone, like well that was weird. But I got into vehicle and I went back home. And the next time I came out and came there, I was walking along and the log was gone. How it disappeared, I have no idea. I don't know how they got I got taken out of there, but it was gone. And on my way back from I walked.

39:53 On my way back to my vehicle, I was walking along and I've always walked with my looking down at my feet because as I was always clumsy when I was a kid and stubbing my feet and tripping over things. In my mom what I was telling you, watch where you're walking, watch your feet. So I was always walked looking down at the ground. I was looking and over on the right hand side of the walkway, I seen a footprint, a bare foot footprint, a big one. I'm like, oh, hed, no, there is no way, no way, And I walked up on it and it was there. It was there. It was during the fall season. There wouldn't been nobody walking around bare feet, and it was in such a place that nobody would have realized that people walking by there all the time. They never would have seen it. It would be somebody like me that has seen these things enough to where when I see it, I know what I'm looking at. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. I got a I took a picture of friends.

41:00 For some reason, they don't really take good pictures. They don't show up very well in pictures. I don't know why, but anytime I find a footprint, it's always a left foot. I don't know why, what the deal is about the left foot, but it's always a left foot. I found footprints one, two, three, three or four times, and it's always been one. I don't I don't know what'scept with that, But since I've been here in the city, it's gotten real, especially in the last three years. To see. After I went out, I went to another place called the Happy Rock and it's right right downtown. It's like a nature area.

41:46 It's you got to you can walk a mile out and a mile back. And I heard rock clacking one day. I was walking along and I was like, okay, I know what I'm hearing. That is not somebody with a hand, that's a that's rocks being clacked together. It was just one, two three, but I knew what it was whenever I heard it, and there had been the first time I had been there. I got for wherever you go far enough they don't want you to go any further, is you can't go any further. You get this intimidated fear feeling that comes over you and you just want to go back to where you come from. That's that happened whenever I was out there. But other than that, ain't nothing else happened in those areas. But I don't go there much anymore. I got COVID and twenty twenty two or no, it was twenty twenty one. I got COVID and I was in the hospital and come out with some oxygen, and I it was. It took me over a year to get over it, and I felt like I needed to get out and live life because all I was doing was going to work, coming on, going to my parents, coming home. So I started praying about it, and all of a sudden, van life videos started coming up, and I thought, hey, I want to do that. And I had been watching Scott Carpenter, and I'm like, okay.

43:15 In order to keep them away from my because I already know wherever I go they want to show up, and so to keep them away from my van at night, I can put lights up around the vehicle. I started out in my suv, and I output in my suv and whatever I needed. And my first year, which was in twenty twenty two, yeah, twenty twenty two, and I decided to go to a lake that's nearby. And my first day there, I knew that they were out there because I had found reports that they had been seen in the area. And I'm like, Okay, I know they're out here, so I'm going to do what Scott Carpenter suggested.

44:04 And I spoke out and I said, I know you're here, and I'm just here to visit. I'm just going to enjoy the atmosphere of the lake. I want to take some walks, I want to enjoy the water. I just I'm not here to harass you. I'm not here to seek you out. I'm not here to manipulate you or anything. I'm not here to harass you or torment you in any way, shape or form. And I would appreciate it if you would give me the same courtesy. Please do not be coming up on my camp. Don't be throwing things in my camp, don't be making animal noises at me, don't be scaring me. I don't want you to scare me, because I don't want to be made to be afraid and not want to camp anymore. And after I got done, I finished setting up my camp, I got my bed made in the suv and I got everything step the way I wanted it. A little pathway that was down from my It was right there by my camp site, but it goes down to the water's edge.

45:09 Big for society will be right back after these messages. And I sold Rose. I said, come on, we're gonna go down here to the water, and we're gonna wait in the water for a little bit. So we went down there and on my path and on me on my path there was a gift. Now, how they got that there without me seeing them? I had no idea. This was the first time I'd ever experienced anything of this sort and that law, and it was a half of the law and had six stones. It had three on one side and had three on the other, and there were two feathers in front of it on the right hand side of it. I sent you a picture of that. That was the first gift that I had ever got from it. In my mind, what I felt whenever I seen this was Okay. They are entering into an agreement with me, and they're saying, okay, we agree, and I don't go out there and search them out.

46:28 I don't go out there. And I told them it's okay. I understand your watchers, and you like to watch. I don't have a problem with that. Just please keep it at a distance because I don't want to be scared. And they always and I could always feel whenever I was playing with my dogs. We play soccer. I had a teaser stick and I played with or with and we play fetch and just we just had a good time and we go for walks and we're active, and I just had this feeling that they watching us play, which later on I found out that was the case. But that was that was the first time that I had had experienced them out there at that lake, and I'm like, okay, they're out here. And then I started traveling in August of that year, twenty twenty two, when I started Van Life, I got my van and I fixed my van up and we had it all with my mother and I had it fixed by February. And I started doing van Life in twenty twenty three in March, and I really started going other places then. And let's see they have left me. Let me get into the pictures that I sent you.

47:53 I'm looking at I'm seeing the gifts that you were referring to earlier. The feather feather and the stick and the rocks, which is really incredible. Yeah, that's what they sent me back. That's what they left me that time. Okay, another time, whenever I was there, I had been. I started I started camping up by the bathrooms because I wanted to get closer to the bathrooms and not down there around the poison ivy and stuff, because I'm highly allergic to poison ivy and poison oak. So I carry poison ivy and poison oak killer ever where I go or where I was staying at down by the water, there was a lot of it. So I started staying up by where the bathrooms was. And I always stay at this mater of fact I go.

48:41 There's so much that the people that work there know me, and they all talk about I always stay in this one spot and how I keep the clean there. They watched me, of course, and they know where I'm going to walk. And I was walking along one time and they had left an old banana that was all black and dried up and put two small stones on that, and I'm like, what in the world are two white stones mean? What does this mean? I don't I don't understand it. In a podcast, somewhere I had heard somebody was talking and they was talking about when you get that had they knew the big Foot ways they had been they had been taught by them, and two small stones meant friendship. I found out later that was later on down and I was like, h that's pretty interesting.

49:36 So I figured that's what they was trying to convey to me. There they have left me gifts at my workplace on the rail beside the beside the back door, there's a pardo, there's some steps that goes up and they leave them right there on that rail. At first, whenever it started happening, I kept asking everybody at work did your kids? Were your kids here and left these stones out there on the rail, or did you you guys lay these stones out here on the rail? And they say no, we don't even know how they got there. They just appeared. Then I realized what was going on. But I had went to lots of places in my van. I went to Ralla to see my son. My son was going to college at Rala. He was going to school to be a civil engineer, and I went there to visit him two years in a row. First year I went, he took me to a place. What is that place called? Oh Man, it's east something is right there by Ralla. It's east side garden or a natural spring.

50:40 It's part of the it's part of the Mark Twain area. It's a day area. See if I can find it. Lane Spring Recreation Area, that's what's called. He took me there because he loved to go there and he wanted me to experience it. When we was there, I felt weird and I'm like, okay, I'm okay because I'm with my son. But I enjoyed it so much. Is the next day I went back by myself, and I did go back by myself, and I was okay, but I was really cautious. I kept looking around. I had my head on a shrivel, and I thought this is I was fine. There was other people there, so I thought, I'm okay. But next year I went back and I wanted to camp out there because they have camping out there, and I started. I drove out there and I drove the camping areas and there was other people there. Because I want camp anywhere unless there's other people there, because I know that they're going to come around and I don't want to be by myself and have them doing things I don't want to. I just don't want to put myself in that position. So I was watching and I thought I could stay out here, and I went to go fill out the paper and I just had a feeling. I just I don't know why. I just had a feeling, and I thought I'll go back. I did the day area, and I'll think about it. I

52:10 need to think about it a little more if I want to stay out here or not. Tonight, I took Rose and we went down to We went down to the spring, and they people trout fish in that spring. It's a natural fed spring, and it's really nice. It's all stone at the bottom, and it's nice cold water all year. And those were places that I seek out a lot because I really liked the clear water. I decided to go back and try to fill out the paperwork. I had the money in the envelope and was getting ready to put it in there, and above there is said bears. There was bears in the area, and I'm like, oh, crap, I don't have I don't have what I need for bears.

52:55 I don't have the I don't have anything to wore them off. I don't have the bear spray, I don't have what I need, so I'm not going to stay here tonight. But I went back to the spring area and when I was down there, Rose and I was playing with fetch with the water. I was throwing the ball and she was going after it and it got out of her reach and she didn't have her life jacket on, and I said, come back to me. We'll wait for it to go down and we'll go down and get it where we could reach. And she came back to me, and we was walking down and the ball reached a shallow area where I could walk right over and get it. And when I reached over to get that ball, I heard a tree break. I'm like on my head flipped. I'm like, oh no, I ain't staying.

53:50 I definitely ain't standing here now. And I was down there by myself. There was not a soul around, not one soul around me. And I said, Rose, and go back to the day area when you get up out here, because I know exactly what that is. That's a sign of aggression. And I'm not No, I'm not going to be here by myself. So I high tailed it back to the day area, and there was people that had just come in and we was talking and visiting and they had a little girl and was playing with rosies, playing fetch with her. And after a while they said, we're going to go down to the spring area and I said, I'm going to leave, and I told Rose, let's go see what Dusty's doing, see if he's home from school yet. I was driving on my way out and there is no gravel roads. There is none that it is all paved and there's all it's all treed and driving. I drove to the highway and I looked both ways. There was no vehicles coming, not one vehicle.

54:52 And when I went to turn left, a rock not well, it wasn't a big rock, but it was a rock kind of flying out of the tree line and hit my vehicle. And I'm like, I guess that was my side. I not to come back, let alone. They doing the tree break thing, but they're throwing rocks at me too. Were you able to see how big a rock it was? No, yeah, I know I heard it. I heard it hit. Sure, it hurt. The hit the corner of my windshield and I'm like, And then right after I got on the vehicle, a car come over the hill. But yeah, I'm like, nah, I probably won't be going back there. And I got to thinking about it. Sometimes, according to Robin McCrae, I listened Robin McCrae and Arla Williams has helped me a great deal in what I have been going through, and I understand I've gotten a little more understanding, and I'm thinking that me being there was not good for me, and they was probably just saying, hey, get out here.

56:06 You don't need to be here because this is not the area for you. If that makes sense. Yeah, No, that definitely does. And I've talked to both of those individuals are very smart about the subject before. Sure. Yeah, And so I got to thinking about it, and I don't think it was really so much aggression as it was saying, hey, you don't need to be here because this is dangerous for you, kind of like looking out for me exactly. So I think of it in that way because they've never it finally dawned on me after Scott Carpenter was they've never hurt me, And it never really dawned on me the whole time. I was in terror of them. The whole time. I was in terror of them. They had never hurt me, and I never really it never really hit my mind that way.

56:56 So now I've gone from being in fear to being intrigued because now they have flipped it and now they're I know, they're around me all the time now, So I go to these places now. And just not too long ago, I went to Baxter Springs, Kansas on a road trip and I was going to they have a they have a park there that they have a camping area in the back of the park and it's first come for serve. So I had went there to stay the night and I got out. It was it was getting back close to dark, and I got out of my I got out and got my van all set up, and I took roads to go for a walk, so if you could go to the bathroom, and I like to.

57:45 There was a waterfall there, there was a river. It's on a river. It's called Spring River. And I was admiring atmosphere that I was in, and all of a sudden, I thought I need to introduce myself. So I said, hey, I said, I know there's probably some of you out here, said I'm just letting My name is Rohnda and I am from out of state. I'm just passing through. I'm just staying the night. I'll be gone tomorrow. And all of a sudden, I hear welcome. We know bother, but we watch. I'm like, okay, you know you watched, and yeah, they were around. I can feel them. You just get that feeling. And I was playing the ball with Rose and letting her get some exercise for the night. And we got it the next morning, and I made coffee and I just told him thank you for the hospitality, and I went on about my way.

58:49 Was that a voice that you had heard tepathically mine speak? Okay, that's cool. Wow, Oh yeah, this is something new for me. It's a Robin McCrae has helped a whole lot with that, because you know, I'll tell you about Jocko and a little bit we'll get into here. Okay. Yeah, he's the one that's opened me up to it. You were just about to talk about Carthage. I think, yeah, I was. I went through Joplin and Carthage. I often go on road trips and I'll make a circle. So I went down through Baxter Springs, down through Galina, Kansas, and I crossed back over into Missouri and come up to Joplin. I stayed the night in Joplin and out of Creek and but I wasn't around any tree areas or anything. There was really nothing there. And I went to Carthage and I went out to the Precious Moments Chapel, and you go in the back and there's a treat area back up in there. It's way out in the middle of nowhere.

59:55 Big for society, who will be right back after these messages. And I was standing there and I kept backing up and backing up, and all of a sudden I heard a thump, like turning my hair around, like Okay, I know you're there. I think you're just letting me know that, Hey, I'm here. You're getting too close, because if you get to I've noticed that I've heard them stomp. And I used to not know how to explain the stomp until mguil I watched sast Watch Theory, and Miguel had explained it perfectly. I couldn't have put it better myself. It sounds like somebody throwing a piece of wood down on the ground, a large piece of wood on down on the ground, that's what it sounds like. I've gone to Perry State Park. That one I got growled at there and woke up the next morning with a tree brick above my van. Matter of fact, I had sent you the picture of that treat brick above my van. There's two together and you can see that it's fresh, and I took a close enough picture that's fresh right above my van. There. We first got into is Perry State Park is what is called Perry Lake in Kansas, and

1:01:28 I stayed there for the night. I went there in the afternoon and we would standing the whole day there. And when I first got there, I was staying in a primitive area. There was other people there, and I thought, okay, I'm going to stay here tonight. And I was there was a bunch of trash in my area, and I said, I got to clean this up. So I cleaned it up. And there was a dumpster at the top of the hill, and so I walked up to the dumpster to throw the trash in, and when I threw it, it overshot them the dumpster, so I had to walk around the dumpster and pick it up. When I walked around the dumpster, and I picked it up. I heard a growl behind me, and I said, okay, I got out of there. I was like, oh, we ain't going to do this. No, I'm not doing this. Everybody had laughed. So I went and found a different place to stay, and I backed my van in and there was a tree. There's trees behind me. And I woke up the next morning and there was that tree break and there was it was not one, it was two. And we didn't have there was no there was no storms or high winds or anything that would do that. That was done in the night.

1:02:37 And how I didn't hear it. I have no idea that, yeah, that was behind my I woke up to that. I'm like, okay, let alone did the growl at me? But I don't know what the tree break means above my van. See, that was in Kansas, and I went and done some research and on that lake and kind to find out that some professors were walking in one of their their trail areas and sound footprints out there. But that's the only that's the only thing that had been reported out there. And my son tells me whenever I what I said where I was at, he said something about don't let the don't let this osqua I can get you or something like that. I said, don't worry. There's only been one report out here now that exit that that great big X, that's the one that's out at that lake that I go to. There's a road that goes back to the shelter areas and there's that big X and back in July twenty four. July twenty four of this year, it was really hot. It was that day. It was so hot and rose and I was driving around with the air conditioning going, and usually people people aren't out in the middle. This was on a Wednesday, so in the middle of the week, people aren't out, and when it's really hot, people aren't out. And so I know that.

1:04:09 But then again, when they do things, they do things intentionally from what I understand. But I had been thinking if I seen one in the distance, I think I would be okay. That particular day, I went driving back in the back where the shelters were, and I seen a man. And it's from where I was at shelter is a shelter that was way on down and I specifically seen a man, and I was thinking, is that a man? And I kept asking myself, is that a man? Because it looked like a man that had a very beautiful tan in tan color. It had very beautiful tan. And this is the crazy part is I thought this man was sweeping the shelter. Now, why would a man be sweeping the shelter down there? Then down Domie, there's no car down there. There was absolutely no car down there, and I'm like, is that a man that I'm looking at?

1:05:10 And then it dawned, Domiti, this man didn't have clothes on, and then all of a sudden it clicked, that's a big foot. So I was trying to whip my van around because I was driving very slow, and this was like I had probably a good fifteen twenty seconds. I got a really pretty good eye from a distance. I'm like, what would a man when I thought, by the time I get my van turned around and get there, it's going to be gone. If it's a bigfoot, If it's a man, that's going to still be there. That was my thinking. Okay, if I'm really if that was really a man, that the man is still going to be there. But it was a big foot, it's going to disappear.

1:05:51 It's not going to be there. And sure another's gone. Whenever I got back, and what I seen was seven a half eight foot tall, and look, I did the measurements. I measured and sure enough it's seven about eight foot tall. And I'm like, okay, I plainly seen this. Well, last time I was at the lake, I was driving back there and there was an actual person down there. It was a man in a car. He got out of the car. I watched him walk because in my interest, I was like, what I seen compared to what I'm seeing now, I was doing in comparison what I seen plainly, and it looked like a man that was shape, that was sweeping the floor. The movements they sway unlike. That's the reason why I was thinking, I've seeing a man that was sweeping the floor. Because he was swaying. I think what was going on was he or she? Because it had back to me here she was going through the trash because there was a trash can there. But really the kind of adrenaline wore off, and this was what was weird was I went back. I was going back to my camp site and I was trying to calm down. I was calm that I was coming down off the adrenaline, and all of a sudden, I got this weird feeling. It was like a wave of pure, unadulterated love wash from my head down my body, and

1:07:24 the only word that could come to my mind was beautiful. I'm like, wow, that was really cool that when I started coming down off with that the rush of what had happened to me and I was finally sinking in, I got really tired, so I left the lake and went home early. I did. I usually go home on Thursday morning, but I went home on Wednesday evening. I just wanted someplace cool, and I wanted a comfortable place to lay down and sleep in the cool because of what had happened. Wasn't that I was afraid, It was just it was a lot. It's a lot whenever you see them like that, especially out in the open. It doesn't happen in daylight out in the open.

1:08:09 Yeah, that's a pretty pretty rare event, pretty special event too. I went down there after the sighting. I went straight down there and I sat there in my van and I kept looking for a person to be walking around that fits the description of what I seen, or a boat going away from the shore that with somebody in it that fit that description. But then when I really questioned myself until I seen that man down there, and he was sitting underneath the shelter, and the only thing I could see was his red hat. That's the only way I knew he was down there. But what I seen I seen plainly. I plainly seen it. So it was large, and it was as tall as the shelter, and it was naked. It was a naked, beautiful man with a beautiful tan. That's the only way I could describe it. Was a beautiful tan because it was that color.

1:09:00 That's what color it was. It was pretty special. I thought it was pretty special. Anyway. Oh, I'm sure that's a memory that will stick with you forever. Forget it, I'll as we get to date it was. It was one thirty in the afternoon, and that its one and a quarter to two in the afternoon. That's what time it was. I'll never forget it. I called my kids and was telling them about it, and they just had whatever. Mom. I raised my children to know about it, And my third son has experienced one, and my youngest son has seen one not even five miles from where he now lives. That was. He was driving home from his girlfriend's house at two and three o'clock in the morning and he calls me and Mom, he said, you're not gonna believe what I seen. And I said, what did you see? He said, I seen a big foot when he come out of the tree lining and was hauling across this across this field and disappeared in the tree line on the other side. And it was a moonlight night, and he plainly seen what he was seeing.

1:10:06 I mean, he plainly seen it, and he'll still tell you, know, I asked him. I went to like I said, I could feel him. And when I went to he got married in their first year that they had a Halloween things going on. It was a harvest, a harvest party, and I went there. He asked me to be there, so I went down to the same road, and when I got in that area, I had a really I mean I could feel it. And when I got to his place, I pulled him the side and I said, Cole, I said that that food sighting that you've seen. I said, did you see it in this field? And he said, yeah, that this field. It's not only five miles from where he lives now. And I told him that he needs to be careful out there because he has two children now, and I told him, you don't ever let them put them babies out, so I had to play by themselves ever.

1:10:54 And you need to be watching your van at your barn. He has a big red barn, and I told him, you need to be watching that barn because they like to get up in the barns. And he don't ever watch that barn. He don't even care about that barn. And I'm like, you need to be caring about that bar. Yeah. When I've been out there one night, I went through, I went and stayed at his place. He goes. He goes out in the country, and his dog won't leave my van at night whenever I'm there, and she will. She was out there barking three o'clock in the morning, and she was looking out towards where the barn was, and she was waving her wagging her tail, like I'm friendly, but this is my place. It was like she was looking at some person. It was like there was a person out there, not an animal. Whenever a dog sees an animal, they're gonna usually give chase to the animal and chase it off the way she was looking was like it was a person, and I'm like, okay, they're out there. I just okay, they're out there, so anymore, it's okay, they're out there. But I keep telling him, you got to watch. Don't be letting the kids out there by themselves. Stockton Lake. Okay, this is the other one.

1:12:05 I went to Stockton Lake on one of my expeditions, my road trips, and out there I have a decal over the back of my van that says staying in Faith. And I had you I'd made a decal and I had sprayed it on there, but I hadn't went over it with a paint brush yet to smooth it out and make it look nice. I was at Stockton Lake. It was extremely hot, and I had Rose was laying down under a shade tree, and I had some music going, and I thought, I'm going to get up there in the back of my van. I'm going to paint this. I had bought the painting stuff to do it with, and my mom and give me the paint brushes. I was up there and I wasn't paying a bit of attention.

1:12:49 Usually I could feel them when they're around, and when I got there, and I backed my van in. I looked back there and I thought, yep, they're here. Okay, whatever, I know, they're here, a big deal. I'm just going to move on with my life. And I had no idea they was out there watching me. And I told Rose when I got done, I said, come on, I said, let's take the trash that I always take my trash to the dunster at night because I don't want it in my van to attract coons or whatever could try to get in the van. Whenever I put her on her leash, and I seen something out of the corner of my eye. What in the world. And they had left a paint brush on the corner of the grill in the middle of my campsite. How they got that there without me seeing them, I had no idea, but it was there, and it was an old paint brush that had hardly any bristles, and it had paint on it.

1:13:49 I guess that was their contribution. They enjoyed what I was doing so much that they gave me a brush to use. They were paying such close attention to what I was doing that they see that I had a paint brush in my hand, and they had one and wanted to give it to me. And I still have that paint brush. I keep it in my Vand that was that was pretty cool. But whenever I went back home, when I went to work, I had a hitchhiker from Stockton, like, I know that's where it come from. Oh really, oh man. Yeah. I worked three to eleven, eleven to seven. But that night I had went into work later and it was dark and I was in the kitchen cooking, and my clients were in bed, and I was in the kitchen.

1:14:38 I had music going and I was cooking and getting things ready for my weekend and I was doing dishes, and all of a sudden, in front of my face, there was a knuckle wrap on the window in front of my face. I sucked there and I backed. I was like, oh, heck no, no, this cannot be happening. And I went in to check on I went in to check on one of my on my clients, and I went into the room. I stepped into the room of the one that's in the back, and on his window was another knuckle rapped on two knocks on the window, letting me know they knew where I was at in the house, and I'm like, oh, this cannot be happening.

1:15:27 And I went into the bed, back in the kitchen and I was doing dishes. I went back to doing some dishes, and again it happened right in front of my face, right in that window. And at that time I said, in the name of Jesus, you do not belong here, and you need to. Leave right now, big for society would be right back after these messages, you go. In Jesus name. And there was nothing else that happened for a good long while. But then in the middle of the night one night, my dog was laying on the carpet in the living room. I was sitting there, and all of a sudden something hit the side of the house so hard it rattled the windows, and my dog running up out of that floor and got up on the couch and stood there in front of the door, staring at the door, growling and mumbling at the door.

1:16:38 He stood there for a good long while, be where she finally settled down after that, and I was like, o're hitting side the house. I can't be having this. And I went out the next day and I said, I don't want you hitting on the side the house no more. You don't need to be doing that. Scared men, scared of my dog. I want no more of that. And so never did that again. But one morning I told Rose, I said, I'm going to go take our stuff out to the van. It was still dark outside. It was during the transition time, it was like the fall, and I heard a knock on the front door on the front port patio two as I was. Two knocks, so like that, I'm like, okay, I'm not going out there, Just like I went out there and I said, no more.

1:17:26 I don't want you doing. I don't want you doing all of sudden, it scares me. I don't like it. It scares me. And so they don't knock on the windows anymore on the even though now it wouldn't bother me. But back then, whenever all this first started, it bothered me. And then here it comes Robin McCray and Arla Williams, and it's okay. I don't need to be afraid of them. They haven't hurt me. They're not going to hurt me. And anytime I've asked them to not do something, They've been gracious enough to not do it anymore. When I've asked them not to. And then Robin McCrae says, oh, you want pictures of them, all you got to do is go take random pin and they'll they're there, They'll show up. So here we are. I went out there.

1:18:07 I thought, I'm going to test this theory out. So I went out on my back door and I started taking some pictures, and sure enough, there they were. There was a whole family of them out there. I'm wow. So I sent you some of the pictures. There was a there's a baby up in the tree, and there was another one that's in the bush. And the one that's in the bush I wouldn't have seen had it not been the glow of the eyes. And I got to really looking at it, and you can see the hairline. And then there's the other one that was hidden that you've seen his eye and his eyebrow and the top of his head, and I call him the little Peeker. And I got a and so I started taking pictures and I sent you the one of the Neanderthal looks like and he looks like a Neanderthal.

1:18:58 Yes, yep, I see that one. Yeah, yeah. You can see the scars on his face and his nose and his lip, his chin, his ear. He looked pretty intimidating there. So these are different than the Choco once free. Yeah, Jocko, he's the one that he's bold. And I've gotten more than one picture of him. And the first picture that I got at him, I was so thrilled. I was so thrilled, and I said, Wow, I got it. I have This picture is plainly you can see you see his skin, his leathery skin. You can see his hairline. If you really zero in, you can see his hair, the texture of his hair. And I was really thrilled, and so I needed to give this I needed to give him a name. So I thought, I'm gonna name him John. I'm gonna call him big John, Big John Henry because when I looked when I did the measurements that fourteenth foot where it was standing that fourteenth foot, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna call him big John. And I started calling him big John. And every time I looked at that picture, I thought, oh, that's big John.

1:20:10 Pretty special picture. And one day I was in the house and I heard no John Jocko, and I'm like, okay, that's just my imagination. I just missed things in my imagination. I'm like, okay, that's just my imagination. I'm just hearing things. And I went on out my way and then I heard it again, no John, Jocko. And I ignored it again. I know, just my imagination, And all of a sudden, he started saying Jocko, and he said it so loud it literally rattled my brain. And it was at a point I said, okay, I heard you. I hear you want your you want to be called Jocko. That's your name.

1:20:55 I will not ever call you John again. Your name is Jocko. You got it. I just don't yell. I didn't want them to know. I could hear them, but he knew. You can't. Like Robin said, you can't hide anything from them. They already know. So I'm like, okay, I said, one day, so I'd like to have another picture of Jocko. I would really like to. Sure enough, this fall, he gave me another picture of him, and he comes in one day. I heard him channing his name, he loves his name, and I heard him channing his name, Jocko. He was singing it, o Jocko, and I'm like, okay, whatever, I just ignore it. And he came in on me a couple of weeks ago at work and he was howling his name like a dog. Because I had said, I had told him, when you're here, could you give me some sort of indication that you're here so I can at least say, hey, buddy, how you doing? So I know you're there and I can just say hi, how you doing? That's it. I said, you can make any kind of tree knock, or you can make a sound that only I would know, that nobody else would know, just something. He chooses to do it petelepathically and he come in howeling his name like a dog. But it was Jock. I heard it the first time, I ignored it, and I heard the second time. I ignored it. Well, the third time it was. He did it again. He raddled my brain and I said are you here? And he said yep, okay, how do you doing? Boddy went

1:22:26 on out and nothing more. And Yeah, he's pretty special. He's pretty pretty brave to be just standing there allowing me to get that picture. That was pretty cool. And that's extremely recent. That's as of this year. Ray. Yeah. Yeah, one was in July and the other one is in September. Yeah, the one in July is that you can see the green that's his tree. I guess he likes to hang out underneath that tree. He's the only one that that that I have any kind of I don't. I have one out of the out the lake that caused me a little foot. I was one day I was going down. I was at a shelter area and they have going down there, they have a little path that goes down to the water, and I would have rows and moves going down to wade to walk in the water. I walked the shoreline and when I was halfway down there, I heard careful, little foot, and I'm like, okay, I just ignored it and went on.

1:23:29 When I got down at the bottom, there was something in the water and it looked like it could potentially be a snake. It was. It was a snake that was laying on the bottom of the water. It was a water mossin that was warning that I was being worn to be careful. Wow. Yeah, that was extremely that could have been extremely bad that kind of snake for sure. October the twenty of the twenty two four or October No, that's not October twenty twenty twenty four in October twenty twenty three, I hurt myself. Now, I was making coffee and the coffee pot head fell over. I was sitting.

1:24:16 I was sitting on a seat and the coffee maker fell over with the coffee and it burned in front of me. And I threw open the doors and I had water and I washed it off, and I put a dress on to get me where I was going, and I left in a hurry, Like I said, they always watching, and I left in a hurry, and I went to get something to put on the burn so it didn't become a big problem. And I was at home at that night, and at two o'clock in the morning, I woke up and the burn was really burning me, and I medicated it and got me a drink, went to the bathroom, and I went and laid down and had the air conditioner on, so it was hot. And I was laying there and I started hearing a loud bang, bang, and I'm like, what in the heck is going on out there? And I heard it again, bang, So I got up and I looked at my clock. It was three ten in the morning, and I went looking out the window because I have an apartment complex. It's right on the other side of the house, and there's a dumpster.

1:25:31 I sent you that picture where I said, I think that where they were sitting and hanging out watching my house, watching where I lived, and they had been they was beaten on that dumpster, and I thought, there is no way that they are doing the trash at three o'clock in the morning. Because after the second time I went bang, I heard and this was literally like what it sounded like wasp. I'm like, what, and the heck are they doing out there? At that point, I knew they were out there. So I opened up the back door and I looked out there expecting listening for a diesel truck and looking for a yellow light that was flashing. There was none of that, so I knew then. I knew absolutely it was them. So I stepped out and I said, what are y'all doing out here? You're gonna wake up the whole neighborhood. So they quieted down after that, and what it was they was getting me outside to check on me. I know that's what they was doing because I had hurt myself and they knew I had hurt myself, and they knew that I lived here, and they had been here, and that was their way of getting me out of the house so they could look at me.

1:26:42 And I told them, I said, thank you for coming and checking up on me, because my own family doesn't even come check up on me. I appreciated that. And then there was another. Before that. There was another time at the lake was whenever the acrens were falling off the trees and then the fall I was sitting and I was literally put my chair where I wouldn't be getting hit by any of the acre as it was falling out of the tree. And I was sitting there and something hit me in my left shoulder blade and it hurt and it rolled down and I reached around to grab what it was and it was a big old acren and I know what it was. One of the juveniles had come up behind me and had thrown an acre and it hit me with it. It hit me so hard that I was looking to make sure this next year I didn't have brutes.

1:27:33 That's how hard it hit me. So that didn't come out of no tree that was thrown. Wow. And I turned around and I said, oh, there'd be no more of that. It don't be hitting me with that hurt. And then this summer that this was just a few months ago, and actually back in September, matter of fact, Rose and I was out there and I laid down under the tree and take a nap. And I had laid down and I couldn't sleep, but I was just laying there Rosy quick playing. When I get down in the ground with her, she wants to play it first, and then she lays down. She was laying down, and I rolled over and was laying on my left side to have my eyes closed, and in my right ear I heard a little girl's voice, the sweetest little boy you ever heard, and said, what you doing in my right ear? I'm like, okay, that's interesting.

1:28:37 Well, Rohnda, you have some You've had some incredible experiences over really your entire life, and thank you for sharing those. Two days that didn't scratch it serves I got of it. Oh yeah, we have a gifting stone and the doritos. I gave them doritos the fourth of July week this last time, and that come home that that night and I was looking through Facebook and there's a picture of a big foot with big old bag of doritos in the other hand, eating gritos. I don't get. It's like they can manipulate things. It's like I was driving drowned the road and I was going to work and a dourrito bag. I seen it and it blew right in front of my vand and said. The first thing come in my mind was I want I'm like, okay, asking for doritos. And when I did put them on the gift I have a gifting stone. There's a story behind that one. And they had stomped whenever I left it, and I'm like, hey, you gotta wait a minute. I gotta get these stick tights off of my dress. My dress is fulled stick tys. I don't want to take these back to my camp. So when I'm done doing this, I'll leave. And the next time I went back, they had cleared that whole area all the way to the gifting stone. I could walk to that gifting stone and not get one, not get one couco bird or one

1:30:07 stick tight on anyone. They've completely little flattened it clear. I said, thank you very much, that was nice of you. Yeah, they do do some amazing things. Big for society will be right back after these messages. And when I go to my mom's. There was one day one morning I got out of my van, I heard and I think they throw their voice. I don't know, but when I got out of my van, I heard a tree knock and this is just one hit, and I'm like, okay, that evening. When I come now to go back in my van to retire for the night, I heard another one and it sounds like it's off in the distance. I think they can throw their voice to make themselves sound like they're because they had to be right there watching.

1:31:14 Yeah, I would agree, there's definitely and they could definitely do mimicry. And that's a really interesting thing to think about, as well as throwing their voice. I don't think it's the question for sure, but do you have, let's say, if there's someone's listening and they're wanting to try to have their own experience, do you have any advice as to what they could do to try to initiate that. I wouldn't initiate anything. All you gotta do is just be there. They don't want to be harassed, they don't want to be bothered. I just really don't if you're not out there chasing around in their home. Yes, they're home. Would you want somebody to come and chase you in your home? That's the way I look at it.

1:31:56 That's a good way to put it. Yeah, it makes sense. That I didn't. I've never had I never even looked for them to come to me. They just they've just been there in these last three years. It's they're determined they're going to be in my life. And I don't know why. I have no idea. I don't understand it, but it is what it is. They even showed up one time. And have you watched Paranormal Highway? I don't think I've actually seen that one. Okay, they have they have one that's called Paranormal Highways on Amazon Prime. I remember that's where I watched it at or it was on Paramount is one on one or the other? I think I'm pretty sure they have it on Amazon Prime. But on the very last one, it's called the Where the Beast of Railroad? That road Brick Road?

1:32:45 Is that in Wisconsin? Yeah? The Beast of Bray Road in Bigfoot is the very last one, the very last episode, and they were investigating and they were having rocks thrown them. The cameraman kept going, putting the camera where it could be seen, trying to look for it where the rocks were coming from. And there was two guys in front of the camera, was looking and they couldn't see him. I seen them, both of them, and the first one I wouldn't have been able to see had he not blinked because he's so well hidden. I sent you the two pictures. The first one he's brown and he's got his head and he's got two big black eyes. But if he wouldn't have blinked, I wouldn't have seen. And the second one I seen him, and I both times I paused the show and I took pictures that I know that they don't even know that they got him on camera. There's no way that they know where they would have said something.

1:33:47 But they're there. They're hidden, but they're there. It's once you start seeing them. It's like your eyes are open to them and you see them now. I can see them. They're like I can look in the tree. I could see shadows move every once in a while. I've seen him do that. And that's where I got a picture of the mom and the baby. I sent you a picture of mom and baby and the mom is looking down and the baby is on her head, and I had to have been a newborn. And daddy was right there, closer. He's blurry, but that was the daddy, and I think he was moving, probably whenever I took the picture. I might have gotten too close or something. I don't know, but I think he was moving because they was right there in one picture. But I zeroed in on her and then I zeroed in on him, but they were right there together.

1:34:36 That was at the lake, the same lake we've been talking about. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, very interesting. Yeah, I get it, after my life has radically changed, but I'm not afraid of them like I was. I'm more intrigued now and I can relax. It's like Arla says, Yeah they're big, and yeah they're noisy, but I've never heard them how I've heard them make allen noises. Like one night at the lake, I heard the coyotes going crazy and right along with them, and it sounded like it was running with them. There was an owl mimic and it was a mimic. It was the funniest thing ever. And I was sitting there laughing, Yeah, I hear you, but yeah, I don't. I don't ever hear them. They're they're pretty quiet around here. They don't, you know, I don't make a whole lot of noise. Of course, they don't want to draw attention to themselves either, being right here in the.

1:35:31 City, which is that's one of the wildest things, is that you're in the area of Kansas City. There's a there's an apartment complex just right on, just right here, right next to me. They And matter of fact, there was one day I was sitting out in my backyard and I heard the weirdest sound. It sounded like an electrical sound, I don't know, it was a little boom, and I turned my head and I seen a blue flash. It's on the side of the house, and I seen it looked like from the knee to the ankle of some something walking towards the trees. And I'm singing, I wonder if they're using a portal, because I do believe that they. I do believe in portles. I do believe in it, and that that may be what they're how they're getting in and out here. I know a work where I work, there's a ditchline that's a creek that runs through and there's I sent you a picture of where I live or where I work. The big that's where they hang out where I circled it in big red.

1:36:34 They hang out down there. And I've gotten out at three o'clock in the morning at work and I heard birds singing to me. I have the recording of that. You can hear the crickets, you know, in the middle of summer, and you hear the birds singing to me at three o'clock in the morning. And I'm like that it didn't happen anymore. And I said, I missed that bird singing to me at three o'clock in the morning when I come out. And I come out the next time and the birds was a singing to me. Oh yeah, so it's okay. And I think that hit my dog one night with in forsound. Oh yeah, I told him. I told him, don't do that again. Don't hurt my baby. I wouldn't hurt your babies for the world. Don't hurt mine.

1:37:16 Absolutely. But she runs out, she goes out, she runs to the end of the light, to the end of the chain link fence, and she marks when she comes back up, I think that's probably down there, and probably didn't realize you've just seen her coming. But yeah, she was healthy all day long and eating all day if you were just fine, and all of a sudden, then she started throwing up. She threw up all night and all the way up into the next morning. She threw up, And I'm like, okay, I bet I just almost a bit that's what happened to her because she was just fine before. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy to hear how different things are affected by infrasound. But Rand, I feel like we'll probably be hearing more from you in the future. It sounds like things are going to continue to keep happening to you.

1:38:05 They've all of a sudden stopped kind of lightly. Then there's not been nothing going with been here is Jocko. I don't see him. We're in the foreseeable six feature future. The way he goes that, Yeah, they've been around, and I just take pictures every once in a while, or I've gotten to where I don't even take so many pictures anymore because I know they're there. I don't have anything. My curiosity has been satisfied. I know they're there, and I know they're coming around me, and they leave me give Someone'm fine with it, and I just told them, Okay, if you don't have a good heart or good intentions, you don't need to be here. So ever since I've said ever since I've been I've said that they've really not been coming around except for at work. It works sometimes that it's mainly been Jocko Rhonda.

1:38:54 This has been just just a bunch of information in this conversation. I'm gonna have to go back and listen to it a few times. I think so many different areas of Missouri were mentioned. People can just pretty much fall along with the map as you talk. But I just want to say thank you for coming on the show. If anything does happen in the future, feel free to reach out. And oh yeah, I'll keep you posted on buying and send you pictures every once in a while. Absolutely, I don't, like I said, I don't take pictures much anymore, but I do like to record the gifts that they give me because it is interesting some of the things that they do. They leave me the little they left me the cross on one side of the yard and the little the star looking thing on the other side, and they left an X beside the in between the windows of my clients at work, they they just do things.

1:39:49 They just do what they do. They communicating and communicating so many different ways. I just got to be ready for anything whenever they start in some new But I'm a little more I'm a little bit more relaxed with it. Now. I can go outside at night and I could sit and not be afraid. Exactly, which I think is a good place to get to. I can travel in my van by myself with my dog, and I can go different places, and I'm okay, I'm not afraid anymore like I was. Like I said, I'm I'm just as like they've adopted me. Oh. Whenever I went to North Carolina to my son's, that was a scary one. Now that one scared me. He had me sleeping in his back room and I told him before, I said, now, when I've been here within twenty four to forty eight hours, don't be surprised if we have some sort of activity around here with the big Foot.

1:40:44 And I was laying in bed at like one o'clock in the morning, and I was laying there and I heard and I felt the presence out there, and I heard something sniffing through the air. Conditioner that he had in the window was sniffing. It sounded like a dog would be sniffing underneath the door, but it was through the air conditioner that was like six foot off the ground. And I'm like, oh crap, please do not rip that out of the window, because my foot was right there by that window. I laid there and I held my breath the whole time that was sniffing, and finally it just quit and walked on And there was nothing else that happened the rest time I was there, So I think he just come by, got a sniff, didn't like what he smelt, and went on. I don't think they really have much care for humans in North Carolina. That's in Jacksonville, North Carolina.

1:41:39 Did you see any any tracks outside the next time I. Went out there? No. I went out there and looked the only thing that was out there was a smell. And my daughter in law made a call about that. She said, did you smell that out there? She said, it's sphink's out there. She said, I've never smelled that since I've lived here. We've been living here for five or six years and we've never smelled that. And I said I had a visitor last night. I let them know I had a visitor last night snipping through the window. So that's probably the remnants of this stinch. You never know when they're going to show up, is what it sounds like. You just got to be right within twenty four to forty eight apps. And sometimes they meet me there. They're already there. They're already It's like they know when you're coming.

1:42:24 They just have that, like said, they just know. They know where I'm going to they know where I'm going to walk, they know where to leave things. It's just it is what it is. I don't question it anymore because I'm not going down that rabbit hole. I'm not interested in going down that rabbit hole. I just take it as it comes. Sure, it's a learning experience, that's what I see it as. Yeah, I think that's the important thing is we look at this as a way you can learn from anything, the experience in this field. But I think that's a great way to put it, for sure. But I'd enjoy them now. If they're not around, it's weird to me. If I don't feel them around anywhere, it is weird for me. It was weird when I was in North Carolina, and I did that. That was the only thing that happened all the time I was there.

1:43:15 It was Okay, this is weird. I'm used to feel in the presence of at least one of them that No, they wasn't nothing. There, absolutely, Ronda, as we start to get towards the end of our time together, do you have any final thoughts for people that are listening at all? Or you don't have to be as afraid of them. I know there's people out there that do have that do have bad experiences with them that, like Arla Williams says, if you think you're going to have a bad experience, you will, and if you think you're going to have a good experience, you will. But there are places that I won't go in Missouri until I have somebody that can travel with me. That I won't go into the Ozarks by myself. I'm sorry. There are too many reports that they are aggressive. No, I'm not going to Table Rock.

1:44:10 I'm not going to the Lake of the Ozarks. I'm not going in them areas by myself. I will not And I'm not going into Mark Twain and camping by myself unless I have somebody that are there with me and there's other people around me. No, I won't because I don't want that kind of I don't want that kind of experience. They've chased people out. Oh. I've taken reports myself from from Mark Twain where things get. Probably bad with me travel and the way I travel. I keep an eye out in these areas that I'm going to. And I watched the reports and I watch I watched all of that because when I pay attention to how I feel, pay attention to how you feel, watch your back because this life out there, it ain't what we think it is. I have learned that is not what we think it is. I even have pictures of things that look like I sent you a picture it looks like a hyaena or a dog that looks more like a hyaena th to me than it does a dog. But they're out there and you need to be careful, especially whenever you're hunting and whenever you're fishing, and because they see it as we're in their territory and we're taking their food, and they do become aggressive because they're protecting their food source, they're protecting their home.

1:45:33 And I just always announced myself and let them know, Hey, I'm here, this is what I'm here for. I've even fished and I had a problem and if I was to catch anything, I probably would have left them one. And I don't feed them. No, that ain't gonna happen either. But they do get little goodies every once in a while when I go to the lake and before I leave, I'll leave them a little something. We have a gifting stone. Oh sure, gotcha. Yeah that makes sense, Randa. I appreciate you coming on and sharing a lot of things that I think people can learn from. And uh, it's it's been a pleasure chatting with you tonight.

1:46:15 It's been fun. It's been good, and it's good to talk to somebody who is going to listen and hear what you're saying and somebody's going to sit back there out you're full of it, because I get that all the time. I get people said they look at me like, yeah whatever. I had one of the girls at work, she said, there's something going on back there, and my dog was I was working nights and my dog would leave back there. He was back there at the back to back. He said, I don't know. I couldn't get him to come back up back there, barking and barking, and I said, let me tell you something. I said, there was somebody. There wasn't somebody out there. There was something out there. I said, there's a big food that hangs out back there. I've got pictures of him, I said, And that was probably what he was barking at. And he said, oh whatever. He just blew me on. And it's like, okay, that's what you want to believe. Most people, it's like they're going to have to come up tap him on the shoulder before they're going to believe it.

1:47:08 And even then they probably wouldn't. There you go. You gotta at the end of it all, you got to have an open mind and be ready to see what you might see. But oh, this is a new experience to me. This mine speaks stuff. I didn't ask none of that. But Jocko was, don if you're going to make sure that I acknowledged him. He knew that I could hear that I was going to acknowledge him. He was not going to go without acknowledgment. There you go, you know, yep, I told. Him I was going to frame I was going to get Prince print off. So this pictures and I was going to frame him and put him on my wall so I could look at him every day. He was just that special.

1:47:54 Well, Ronda, thank you so much for being on the show. We'll definitely keep in touch for the future. But thanks so much for the check. Yeah, that'd be good. Thank you. You have be n you too, It's been fun. You're at Bigfoot Society. Our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation.

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