The Bigfoot Beast of Wallowa, Oregon

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Welcome to the Big fut Society.
In this episode, I talked to d

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from eastern Oregon about his bigfoot encounters
in the Wallawa area of the state.

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the show, all right, I thik

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that society. I've got the privilege
of talking to D tonight. D's a

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listener from the Great state of Oregon, and he has a few encounters to

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share. But how's it going tonight, D Going real good? Jeremiah awesome.

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I'm excited to hear. I've heard
a little bit about what you've experienced.

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But you know, I'm going to
go ahead and give it right over

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to you and feel free to share
what you'd like about what you experienced.

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Sure, well, I'd like to
start out and give a little background.

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I grew up grew up in eastern
Oregon. I was out in the woods

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a lot. My grandpa was a
logger and he I had it and fished

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with him, and he took me
everywhere out in the woods and with the

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experience, and since I had there, you know, at that time,

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very little known about Bigfoot, but
never experienced anything. I've been around bears,

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cougars, you name it. I've
had cougars within five feet of me.

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I've heard him scream. Bears have
been even closer. So going into

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the story, I wanted to bring
the same thing to my kids, and

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I had my son and he took
him everywhere with me, and we were

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out in the woods a lot,
getting wood. We were hunting, fishing,

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and this one time him and I
we're going to head out hunting.

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My brother, oldest brother was going
to bring his fifth wheel up in the

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woods and we're going to use it. Well, my son and I decided

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to go early, so we went
a day early, and we were just

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going to wait for my brother out. I've been out in the woods before.

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I've camped, I've dry camped,
I've had tints, I've slept in

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pickups and everything else, So it
was nothing unusual if brother didn't show up

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or just stay out in the woods. Well, we got up there,

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started getting dark. We were up
above a laura and I told me,

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know, let's stop. Let's build
us a fire and get something to eat.

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And at the time, my son
was pretty close to ten years old.

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He hadn't quite he was nine nine
and a month ago or nine years

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and a month ago. And so
we sat down. We found a spot.

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It was a winde a road and
we pulled up in this clearing and

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we just kind of parked and let
us a fire and got out some stuff

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to eat and we were eating and
the forest. Now what was weird?

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When we were there. We had
our fire going, but it was just

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completely quiet the minute the sun went
down. Not a sound. And to

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me that was strange because I hadn't
encountered much of anything like that. Usually

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you hear something, crickets or something. You just hear something. It's just

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not that quiet. So we ate
and we were talking, and you know,

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the son kept asking me, is
Uncle David get to show up?

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And I said, well, he'll
show up when he gets here. It's

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no big deal. And we talked
for a couple hours just by the fire,

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chatting well about nine thirty at a
distance. Now, if I had

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to gas, i'd hate the gas
because there's lots of draws around there in

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canyons, and something can sound far
away and it's not far away, or

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you hear it and it sounds like
a close, but it's far away.

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It's just the way that the sound
echoes through those draws. And we heard

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something, a scream, and I'll
tell you once I heard a big foot

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scream. I said, that was
it, that was it? Just,

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Oh my goodness, loud but far
away. My son looks up at me

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with these big eyes, and he
says, Dad, what is that?

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Ah, I said, don't worry
about it, just I don't know animal

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holl are no big deal. Now, if you kind of looked inside of

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me, you would have seen me
going, oh man, what is that?

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This is? This is awesome and
scary at the same time, because

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you don't know what it is.
I mean, it's pure darkness around us.

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So he kind of he guys,
says well, I said, it's

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far away anyway, don't worry about
it. It's no big deal. So

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we were we were talking some more
and it was pretty close. And the

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reason I know the times is I
was waiting for my brother, so I

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kept looking at my watch. But
about a half hour or two an hour

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later, somewhere in there, another
scream came and it was just absolutely positive,

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the same scream as the bigfoot ones
I've heard. And I was just

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and he looked at me this time
and he says, Dad, this is

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scaring me. I said, don't
worry about it. We're fine. I

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mean, there's nothing out here going
to get us. And of course inside

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I was saying, let's getting closer, and my first thought was let's get

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out of there, you know,
I just something inside me just didn't want

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to stay. And I thought,
now we got it gotta We just got

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to stay here because I want to
meet my brother up there. And it

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was eleven thirty. Because I looked
at my watch, it was eleven thirty

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and that thing was right across the
road and it screamed, and right now,

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even talking about it, I get
chills up my back. It was

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horrendous. And my son jumped out
up and he almost started crying, and

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he wanted to get in the truck. I says, well, let's get

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in the truck and we'll drive down
to town. And you could hear it

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rustling in the brush a little bit, not real loud, but rustling.

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But that screen, Like I said, I've been around cougar screens and never

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ever have I had chills up my
spine like that. And it was so

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loud. So we got in the
truck and I started up the truck and

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we made a loop around to get
turned around to go out the road.

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Well, the trees weren't that far
away from the road, if I had

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to say, it was about fifty
yards. But we turned around and when

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our headlights came across that there was
hands and the top of a head looking

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through a couple of the trees.
It was just I stopped for a second

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look just because I'm not seeing this
am I and my son just looked at

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me. He says, Dad,
let's get out of here. That thing's

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huge. You saw the hands,
and they had two trees split apart,

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two smaller trees. They were pretty
close to when I stood under them,

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because we went up the next day. But I stood under it. There

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was about I was not even halfway, so they were probably ten ten to

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eleven feet tall. He had him
spread apart, was looking through him.

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And then when we sat there for
a few minutes, the hands went back

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and the trees were swaying, and
we got out of there. And at

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first I wanted to stay. I
wanted to see more, but then I

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thought for the safety my son.
That's you know. I got to protect

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the kids more than anything. And
when it comes to wild animals, you

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don't really know what they're going to
do. I don't trust them. Don't

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trust wild animals whatsoever, because they
could be really good, but then they

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can turn on you. So anyway, he saw that my son had tears

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in his eyes because he was just
I think he was going into shock myself.

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And we got down to town and
down into the town and pulled off

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somewhere. And you know, neither
one of us slept that night to wake

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up the next morning to go hunting. And my brother finally made it up

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and we went back up in the
woods where we were camped, and like

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I said, I walked across the
road and stood by those trees that were

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right next to the road, and
I was a bidget to those trees.

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And when I looked, I looked
up to see how high they were.

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That the thing had to be nine
to ten feet tall, if not a

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little taller. And started scouring for
tracks, and there's there was. The

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ground was real hard, but the
tall grass. The only thing you could

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see was the pathway to where it
came in. And I took my son

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with me and we tracked it.
We tracked the wall as far as we

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could. And I'm no amateur tracking, I'm not an expert, but I've

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tracked a lot of game. And
we actually followed it to where it went

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up over the hill and then went
down into this draw and we never found

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there was never a good track.
Like I said, the ground was pretty

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hard, but you can see the
grass being laid over. And the only

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reason I say I know it was
it was a bakefoot was because the grass

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that was laid over was huge compared
to my foot. I tried to show

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my son. I said, see, you put your foot down, and

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he says, well, yeah,
but yours is only half of what that

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one is. I said, that's
what I'm saying. I know what we

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saw and I know what we were
following, and we tracked it down as

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far as I wanted to go,
because it got real thick and steep,

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and you could you could see through
the brush where the grass was, where

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it was laid down, and you
could see it where it went down into

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the draw. Well. The biggest
thing about this was number one, I

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wasn't looking for bigfoot, and number
two is it was the least expected thing

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I would ever see. There was
we weren't. We weren't. I wasn't

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prepared to see it as far as
like we're out hunting bigfoot. We were

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out deer hunting or going to be
deer hunting the next day or two.

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And I think that's what surprised me
the most. And in the area that

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we saw it in What was it
doing there? There's there's so many people

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out in the woods at that time, and it was just just a stranger

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currants, and I know that I'll
never forget it. That's exactly, never

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forget it. That was the hands. I saw the fingers. I didn't

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see thumbs. I just saw the
fingers holding the trees back was looking through

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them. And the hands were just
huge, were dark colored, that had

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wrinkles on the knuckles, just like
a human. And the top of the

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head was covered with hair. It
was just hairy in it. Oh,

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and the thing was just I can't
imagine how tall it was because it had

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to be ten eleven feet tall.
And I was just I was shook up,

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I think just as much as my
son. But I wasn't showing him.

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I didn't want it. I didn't
want him scared of the woods is

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the main thing. And that's the
last thing I wanted him to be scared

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to go out in the woods.
But we followed it. I looked for

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tracks, couldn't find anything, not
the track to where you could do it,

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any casts or anything. But it
had a big stride. Now,

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this is like I said, with
the grass lad over it was just almost

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three strides of buying, which my
stride is exactly three feet, and so

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his stride was about six foot five
foot six foot strides and that was that

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was all we saw the all time
we were up there, because I was

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hoping to see it again but never
did. So we're in northeast Oregon.

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And did you say north of Wallawa? Willawa, Willawa, the city of

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Willawa. Yeah. Is this like
a wildlife area or a state park or

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no. There's a lot of Federal
Force service up there, and it used

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to be a lot of it owned
by Boise Cascade, but I think they

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sold it to a land company,
Handcock or something. But it's mainly you

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know, public. Anybody in the
public can get up in it. Yeah,

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gotcha. I let people in the
patreon read through what you submitted,

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and if they have a question as
well, they can submit the question and

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there's a chance I might use it. So Scott and the patreon. He's

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got a question, and it's a
good one. What was your relation to

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the concept of bigfoot? Were you
a big foot believer before this event happened.

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I think they'd put it this way. I was, and wasn't okay,

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I got an open mind, always
did. And I first remember my

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grandpa having a some type of wildlife
magazine where they had the film from Gosh,

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I can't think of it now,
or they had a picture from the

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Patterson Giblin film about Bigfoot. Well
I read the article, but I looked

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at my grandpa and says, hey, Grandpa, what do you think about

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Bigfoot? The very go Bigfoot,
that's all he said. But then I

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started learning more about it as I
went along, and even back then they

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didn't have much on it. There
was a few books out there, and

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of course I went to the library
and got a few books and read about

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it. But the way I looked
at it was, you know, I

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got an open mind, but until
I see it, I'm not going to

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believe it. Fully I saw it, I believe it. So I wasn't

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a full believer, but I wasn't
a total skeptic either. If that makes

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sense, Yeah, no, it
definitely does. And this wasn't like you

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and your son were like, Okay, we're going on a big Foot hunt.

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Like you were just trying to get
out and enjoy nature, and this

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just happened to happen. And that's
the whole thing about it. And that's

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why I think sometimes when would anybody, whether it be me or anybody else,

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Sometimes I think when we go out
looking for bigfoot, I don't think

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you're gonna I've not seen one go
out there looking for it. All might

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have happened when I'm not out there, bigfoot, honey, I'm just out

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in the woods and enjoying some time. And that was that's the thing that

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got me the most, because I
this wooded area I'm talking about. I

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started hunting and get in the wood
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old, and I'd been through all
those woods with him. He logged them

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all, so he took me everywhere
up in there, all over. There

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wasn't a bit of that country I
didn't see. And I figured, well,

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it's too close to a town.
You know, it's probably thirty miles

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to the nearest town out of the
woods, but you know it's kind of

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close to town, so you'd never
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It was kind of my shot growing
up. And why as he had

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started hunting at eight years old with
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walks and said walk down this hill, and I'll eat you down at the

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road, you know type thing where
nowadays I wouldn't have let my kids do

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it because I'd be too scared to
get lost. But it was not it

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was not the perfect setting to go
find Bigfoot. We weren't thirty miles or

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forty miles back in the wilderness where
nobody this is, this is where where

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people are, which really had me
just just had me amazed at the chance

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I had to see it. Oh, absolutely, Man, do I think

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there's a chance your grandpa probably saw
something at one time or another. I

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just have a feeling, but that
I've got, you know, I'm just

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kind of kind of guessing. Well, I'm thinking he started logging out in

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those wood out in the woods in
nineteen thirty and got his own log in

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company in forty one and sold out
in sixty nine. I believe he was

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doing what I was doing to my
socks, and I think he was wanting

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to not make me scared to go
out in the woods. He knew,

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if you know, he knew if
I told him, yeah, there's Bigfoot

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out there, they're big, you'd
never know what's going to happen. Blah

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blah blah. You know, at
eight years old or so, I would

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have been scared to go out in
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Yeah, he probably you know,
he probably was doing something like that.

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Yeah, I could definitely see that. But what year again was this

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that you and your son had the
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Okay, Thinking back to when you
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did you get a chance to see, like what kind of the shape of

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the head was at all, or
do you remember anything that you saw about

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the head for details? The head
part I saw was just covered with hair,

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if I remember, I had had
a little bit of a code shape,

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but it wasn't prominent, you know, it wasn't like a pyramid sitting

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on somebody's head. But it was
raised a little bit. But I,

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like I said, with the hands, I was concentrating on the hands because

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I could see them just clear's day. I mean, they were wrapped around

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the tree, pulling, pulling these
two small trees apart, and I know

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it was looking over him, but
I just caught it when I came around

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with the lights and stopped to where
he had enough time to put it up

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over his face. But yeah,
I did. I didn't really. I

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saw the hair and it looked like
maybe a code shape, but I was

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looking at the hands because they were
just right out there in the open more

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or less. The screams you said, you've heard this. You heard the

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screams a few times? Are those? Can you describe? You know,

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there's a few different you know,
we hear the bigfoot sounds on the different

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types of media, there's different types. Is there any way you can kind

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of describe maybe what type of scream
or is like how ohio howl or anything

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like that. Now I'm trying to
think it kind of mimicked some of this.

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There's a couple sounds on I think
Fighting Bigfoot that they had tapes of

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that were were really close, not
exact, but it was the low tone

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or it was high, then low
and then kind of low high again.

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It was just kind of a but
it was the duration that killed me,

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because usually Kyle, you know,
they'll they'll howe when it's a few seconds.

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This seemed like it was for about
eight to ten seconds, and it

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was it was a loud scream,
loud and it didn't and it wasn't like

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a cougar scream either. And I've
heard them plenty of times, and it

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was nothing even close to too short
of a call. Cougar is too short

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of a call to match this.
All I know is when it got across

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the road and it screamed, every
hair on my body stood up. It

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didn't shake you, but you are
physically shaky of just hearing that scream that

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close. It was awesome, and
now I think it's awesome. Back then

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I was scared to death. But
your son is around thirty five right now.

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I think, if I do the
mast, how did this affect him

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later in life as an adult?
If it did, you know what it

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hasn't. He does bushcraft survival things. You'll go out in the woods and

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with his knife and a hatchet sometimes
and just stay for three or four days

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out in the woods, just living
off the land and what's there. It

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didn't affect him in a way.
In fact, I think it made it

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the other way. Now he's not
afraid and he wants to find it type

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thing. So it actually did good
instead of bad. That is extremely interesting.

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So I'd guess he's probably out in
Oregon doing his thing, bushcrafting out

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there. Yeah, he lives in
the southern part of Oregon southwest. Yeah,

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he's actually I had actually you know
now that I never thought of it

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that way, but it's kind of
with the opposite way. And he's he's

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not afraid of anything. He just
he just wants to see it again.

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He just well, if I see
it, I see it. Dad,

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I says, yeah, we all
will hopefully someday again. But that's really

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really interesting. If he ever does
have any encounters, you know, keep

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me in mind for sure. Sure, now I will. I'll let you

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continue with what happens next, which
the listeners are probably like, Okay,

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what happens next? Yeah, And
this was this was this was awesome.

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I mean you know that, it's
the few occasions I've had that this was.

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This was incredible, and I was
thrilled. But now jump forward to

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two thousand and seven. We were
we decided a wife wanted to take up

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some hunting, so I took her
up there to go hunting. And so

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we get up there, pits her
tamp, and get all camps set up,

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and we have a we have a
cabin tent that's ten by twelve and

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it's seven and a half feet tall, so we could stood up. We

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could stand up in our tents and
everything. So it's just her and I

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and the dogs. So we had
I think five dogs at that time,

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four dogs at that time, and
they were four chihuahwas believe it or not,

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and we were We got up there
the first night and like I said,

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it was again quiet. It was
just the forest was too quiet.

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No coyotes, don't nothing, kind
of strange, but oh well, we

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just went out our way. The
first night was just nothing hadn't happened.

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Second night, nothing happened. And
then the third night it was quiet again,

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and we got done with the fire, got done with dinner, and

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we decided it, well, it's
time to go to bed. And it

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was supposed to rain that night,
so we took a tarp and laid it

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over half the tent on the backside
and halfway over the front so that we

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could still get out the the front
of the tent without messing with the tarp.

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Well, the wind blew it blew
the tarp off the tent, of

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course, and this was later I
was getting ready for bed, so I

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said, oh, well, if
it rains, I guess we'll hope the

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tents waterproof whatever. I'm tired,
but we were sitting there and I was

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getting ready for bed, and on
the tarp you heard a footstep and the

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tarp crinkled and then crinkled again,
end up going. I looked at my

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wife, said, should be real
quiet. Something out there. She goes,

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oh, it's probably someone just messing
hers. It's the cows, because

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there were some cows around camp.
And I says, if a cow was

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stepping on that tarp, you'd hear
all four legs, you'd hear all four

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feet. I've been worked on a
cow rance for a while and you can

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hear cows covin you. I know
their steps. This is not a cow.

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So just sat real quiet, and
it kept coming around. They kept

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coming around the side of the tent
real slow, but you can hear it.

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She my wife says, this is
a bear and I says, no,

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it's not a bear. This is
this is something else. So I

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just sat there and as I was
listening, it made its way around to

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the front of the tent, which
was kind of strange, and I thought,

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well, my first thought was maybe
someone's out there bested with us.

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And I just stayed there and watched. Uh. I did have a shotgun

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in the tent with me, and
I thought, well, I'll just wait

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and see what's going on. And
it kind of was like those creepsh I

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was like, maybe what's going to
happen next? What's going on? Because

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you heard it walk all the way
around in the front of the tent,

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and all of a sudden, up
on clear of the top of the tent,

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not far from the center, probably
maybe six to eight inches from the

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center, you see a finger scratching
the tent, like the feel of it.

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And you could see the figure through
you know, not through the tent,

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but the way the an folds,
you know with tents, that nylon,

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and it was scratched the tent like
feeling something or something. And I

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looked at my wife. I says, well, enough's enough, and I

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think I racked the shotgun and I
heard it run off, So why,

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I says, well, somebody's messing. I says, you saw that,

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and she goes, yeah, I
did. I said that was a finger

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does it pushed down on the tent
and rubbing it, like scratching it with

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its fingernail And she says that,
yeah, I did. I saw it.

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No big deal. I says,
no, that was bigfoot and she

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says, no, it wasn't.
I said, yeah, it was,

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because we'd seen him up here before. And I says that was him,

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and she goes, I'll think so. So the next morning, oh,

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we went. We went out hunting
that morning, but came back early,

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and of course I went look for
tracks, and I could find some.

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It was dusty where we were at. I could see some dust spurred up,

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but I couldn't really make out nothing
but maybe a heel track, being

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a heel part of the heel.
So then I thought, okay, I've

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got to try this. I went
over to the tent and if that was

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somebody's finger, they had to be
pretty tall because I have only five nine

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five to ten and I couldn't even
hardly reach up over the well. I

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could just reach over the edge of
the tent. Okay, that's far from

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the head. Now, this is
ten foot ten foot at length that tent

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is, and it was reaching halfway
over six seven foot high, six foot

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over, and I started. I
grabbed a stick and I said, now

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you get in the tent. Look
up. So I took a stick,

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put it down on there and moved
it. She goes, that's not even

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close to what it was, And
so I tried different things to see if

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you know, if I was being
best with and I couldn't. I couldn't

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do the same thing that we saw. And I told her, I says,

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you know, this is the same
thing that happened before. The force

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was quiet for those three or four
days. The force was just dead quiet

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at night, built kyotes know nothing, and it's the same area. And

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I just come to the conclusion that
it just happens when you least expect it,

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because that bigfoot was the last thing
on my mind. Blow we were

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up there. But what I heard
walk around that tent, I mean it's

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almost you you could seal it,
but you couldn't see it, and you

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could hear it. And just the
steps, the steps, it was,

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I like it was sneaking up because
you could just hear it hit that thing.

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And to reach over across the top
of that tent, there's no way.

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There's no way anybody could have done
that without falling in on the tent,

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even if they were standing on something. But that was that was the

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second experience in the same area just
ten years later. D that is that

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is wild? So after that was
that enough? So you're like I'm not

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going back there anymore? Or is
it a thing where I might go back

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there again someday? Now it came
to the point to where it was,

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I'm going back there again. I
got excited that time. I got excited.

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I just I had the dogs and
the wife with me, but I

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was I was like, I've got
crazy. Okay, you know that was

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kind of my thing. It was
like in my own brain, it was

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I'm not crazy. There is actually
something up here and it's bigfoot, and

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I want to see it again.
Would you go back there again for a

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third time? Oh yeah, oh
yeah, to have one more experience.

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I think it would be worth it. Now, do I want to keep

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my distance? Yeah? I really. I really don't want to come face

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to face with her, you know, I mean I do, and I

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don't. Like I said, it's
it's an animal. You don't know what

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might happen. I like the distance, but I am not afraid. I'm

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more curious than afraid to see it
again. I want to see more of

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it. People that have actually seen
their faces that type of thing. I'd

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love to experience that part. But
it hasn't made me scared to go in

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the woods. Kull it's made me
more curious. Absolutely, would you be

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able to mark on a map the
general area where this happened. I feel

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like there's got to be other people
that have experienced stuff in the same area.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I can't. I can mark it on the

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map and send it to you.
I just I have a feeling that would

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be that would be great. Scott's
a good guy. He's got a very

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similar way of thinking as I do, so we both have the same question.

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Do you know if there's been stories
of others activity in that area either

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prior to you camping there afterwards?
You know, I haven't heard of much

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activity, but I'll tell you people
over there really don't talk about it.

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If they if they would, people
think they're crazy. It's the old way,

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I think, and I think it's
just like my grandpa was. I

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mean, you know, they just
don't talk about those things. You know,

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you guys are crazy, blah blah
blah. I do know of a

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couple of reports back to the THEND
that happened in the Minum Canyon, which

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is where those reports took place.
That I could find out or understand where

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they were at was probably I don't
know, maybe to twenty miles away,

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so I mean, it's not not
an outreach of them movie that far.

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And I'm kind of on the I
don't know. My theory, if I

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could say it, is that I
think they move around. I think they're

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almost a small migration, not a
I don't think they're going from Alaska to

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California. I don't really think they're
going that far. But I think they

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have their high ground and then they
have their low ground and travel with the

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food, I really believe. And
where we camped at is kind of the

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mid range between high and low,
and I kind of wondered if it wasn't.

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It was around in October, early
October, and I almost wondered if

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they weren't starting to move down from
their high ranges and it was just kind

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of a migration path. You know
my theory, we're both times in October.

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Yeah, okay, yeah they were
because I hunted in those woods,

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but also by sudden I went up
there and did some hike, and we'd

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go up there and just do some
scouting around, just hiking. Never had

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never saw anything, never had any
interaction, never felt anything. Because sometimes

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if you get out in the woods
enough you kind of feel things, Uh,

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you know, like, eh,
maybe we should go down there,

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or you just you got a gut
feeling that maybe that's not good place to

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go. Uh. We hiked all
over up there. Never I never got

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that feeling of something there or some
you know, watching this or anything.

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But that's what kind of amazed me, because I'd been in the woods and

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been around those woods so much,
and then have both these things happened in

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the same place. Was It was
kind of shocking because the last thought in

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my mind I'd ever be able to
have those experiences that close to where I

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was living. I was living in
the Grand at the time. But now

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it's in my area. I don't
have to read books about it being in

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Washington, California and place else.
It's right up there. And of course

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as my son got older, we'd
go looking for it, but we never

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never found anything. Oh, So
that that is very interesting. So the

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times that you weren't looking, but
the times that you were, that's that's

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very interesting. Mm hmm. And
that's why I've told some people that I've

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talked to. I says, they
say, well, I want to find

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Bigfoot. Let's go Bigfoot. And
I says that you'll never find it.

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I says, you need to,
you need to go into the places not

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expected it and not be prepared for
it. And I said that that's what

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you see it, that's what it
all happens. And that's what's happened every

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time. And I saw. Now
when I go out in the woods,

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I hide the cameras and everything,
so I'm not expected to see bigfoot,

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but I'm sure going to get picture
of it this time. Yeah, you

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said you're good to go with you
have a camera with you and maybe even

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audio recorder, who knows, but
yeah, yeah, audio recorder. And

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and then what was it about.
I guess ten years finally got night vision

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and so and that's been real handy. Uh So, yeah, I'm not

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I'm not the richest fellow. I
can't afford the the all the fancy toys

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they have for bigfoot hunting. So
yeah, Sunday Subday all have them?

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Well do It has been really really
interesting chat about an area I haven't really

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talked to a lot of people about. So it'll be interesting to see what

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comes of this interview. And you
have we talked a little bit earlier today

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that you agreed to stay on a
little bit longer. We're gonna talk about

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some other subjects for the Patreon kind
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kind of non Bigfoot related subjects,
but it'll get interesting. It's kind of

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a new thing that I'm trying out. So yeah, well we'll chat about

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that. But I just want to
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you next time. Hear and I
can get out of here, We can

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tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody
else out there listening it's too afraid to

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tell their story. Maybe this will
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And I don't feel so bad about
it. Who cares what anybody's thinks.

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I know what I saw, I
know what's out there. That's all I

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can. Please let people know,
Please let them know. If you ever

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see one of these things, you
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then shame on you, you know, shame on you.