The Bigfoot Triangle of Michigan, Pt. 2: Sasquatch Growled Inches From My Head

0:01 You're listening in Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Today we have the pleasure of having Brian Sawyer back on the show for part two of his interview. Brian Sawyer just wanted to document bigfoot sightings, but what he found along Michigan's lakes, woods and back roads defied reality. Voices in the night, something scratching out his window when he thought he was alone. This is the continuing story of Brian Sawyer. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of having Brian Sawyer back on. You may have heard the first episode I had with Brian where he was sharing about his journey he's had so far through having his bigfoots of Michigan YouTube channel and the really really interesting things that have happened. In fact, we had to we had to put it into a two part which is why Brian is back today. And I said this in the first episode, but if you ever want to have a great case study of what can happen when you start getting into the bigfoot field, Brian's story is an amazing case study of.

1:20 What can happen. But Brian, I'm so glad to have you back on the show today. We kind of left on a cliffhanger where your journey was about to get into some potentially weird stuff. So welcome to the show man. Man. Thanks for having me back on. Yeah, it's been a crazy ride. You know, when I started this thing, I probably said this before. I was hoping to get two seasons out of it. You know, we're doing a TV pilot series. You just recently started the podcast show. It's in the back of my mind. I'm like, Okay, if I can tell the studio people that I can get two years out of this, then maybe we can build off of that. I had no idea what I was getting into, and to be honest with you, I really didn't expect to have any sightings or encounters myself, let alone this crazy you know, I don't even know how you want to label it, because there are so many different narratives to this crazy inner dimensional is what I would call them encounters as well. One of the things I've been doing for the show is we decided to go in you know, we had kind of looked at finding Bigfoot, what's going on now with Expedition Bigfoot, and we said, okay, we want to go crazy with this.

2:48 We want to be outlandish with this because here's here's the tough part. A lot of people might be insulted by this, but I mean no insult by this when it comes down to it. To the general population, this is just entertainment. But to those who have had the actual encounters, this is life changing events. You know it was for me. I'm going back just a little bit of history of me. Sure, I'm I'm a kid growing out through my teens and all that kind of stuff. I got a Christian background, so of course I have all the dreams about demons and you know, the devil visiting me and all that kind of stuff. And then then I moved to port Here on Michigan. So mark that down right there, town right now, everybody listening, very important port Here on Michigan. Now, as I learned, I do believe that there are different areas that are more energized.

3:52 I guess you could say, you know, we've heard about lay lines. You know, you've got all the different mindsments around the world. If you watch all the ancient alien shows, you know, so there are points throughout the Earth where we think maybe these things connect and could be ancient aliens, all this kind of stuff. But for me, when I moved to Port Heuron. Michigan, things exploded. I was getting visited. You know, I'd be laying down on my bed and a black cloak figure would show up. And at first you got, oh, that's just a dream and all this kind of stuff. We'll know, it gets into the realm where I'm awake now and this cloak figure is visiting me, and you know, I'm doing the whole Christian thing.

4:41 And the name of Jesus get out of here. And then I moved from my first location and I build a house, so I kind of contributed, well, it's an old neighborhood, that's an old house. You know, they're just living there. And then I'm gonna I'm gonna move out of that situation. Well, I build a new house and this thing fin and I got to be honest, I'm like, what the heck is this. I've never had, you know, we've all had the out of the corner of our eye experiences, but I'm like, what the heck? This thing has followed me to a brand new construction house. And then the. One time I was laying on my bed, it came in and hit me in the chest where I felt it, and there seemed to be you know, whether you believe in Christianity or that whole narrative, and everybody's got to make their own decisions when it comes to religion, and all these paranormal type occurrences. Well, this thing came around the bed, hit me in the chest, and then like a white type of cloak figured tackled it. So that was my first big experience, and I'm like, man, this this is a weird area, I think. So I'm starting to formulate all this stuff. Well, then my father passes away and just north of portion here, on north northwest, there's a.

5:56 Little town in the in the middle of nowhere called sand Dusky. So I move here, and I've been here for five years, and I'm setting all this up because I want to reiterate that I do believe there are geographical locations that are more energized. So I move into my dad's house. My sister and my brother and I we're all just kind of formulating what to do with my dad's estate, and I'm like, we'll tell you what. I'll move in here, I'll fix it up, get everything back to normal and then we can sell this if we want to. So one evening, I'm laying on my bed. Now, this is not a dream sequence. I am not in between the land of awake and asleep. You know there's that little kind of gray area where people see things and have visions. No, man, I am fully awake. I'm laying on my bed and I'm thinking in my mind speeding, you know, I'm thinking about all I'm dropping a ton of money in my dad's old house that is basically almost condemned condition, and I'm laying there and my eyes are closed, and I'm thinking, I gotta do this. I gotta get a new roof. Man, I gotta fix those gutters, you know. I just got to stop rollodexing through my brain. And just as I'm starting to slow down, well, I'll tackle this and that tomorrow, I hear a voice Jeremiah, and this voice says I've heard about you. And I'm waiting there and I'm like, wait a minute. I'm pretty sure I'm in the house

7:27 by myself. And it was kind of a female tone voice, and so I'm like, who the heck is that? So I opened my eyes and I see a fairy hovering over my face about a foot away, and it's directly over my face, and it's about the size of my hand. And if you've ever talked to a dog, you know how they cocked their head left and right and they're looking at you and they're studying you, trying to understand what you're saying. Well, this theory is intently looking at me.

8:08 It's heads moving from side to side, back and forth. It's really studying me, and. It's studying me so much that it doesn't realize that I have now opened my eyes and I'm watching it, and out of my mouth unexpectedly just comes out I say, you know, I can see you right, And this thing is in total shock and gives a big ool. It flies across the room and right into whatever you want to call it a conjunction box or whatever. You know you seed your DVD player into. You need the cable into it, and then that routes it to the TV.

8:50 So this thing flies off, flies right into this box with a pot and sparks, and I'm laying there going, what. The heck did I just see? And what's so crazy about this is I'm not a guy who watches Peter Pan I don't have daughters. I didn't grow up watching this stuff. I wasn't a big Disney fan. You know. I've got two sons, so we're more of the man type and work and you know, getting your hands dirty and. All that kind of stuff. And so the last thing that would have been on my radar is what I would call a faerry.

9:35 So now I've got. A cloak figure that's punched me in the chest back and forth hereon. I'm in Sandusky, Michigan. Now, granted the house was vacant for a couple of years, but does that justify a faerry floating over my face? So my mind is blown and it takes me. It takes me a good two three weeks to. Come out of this. And of course I'm not telling people because you don't even now you know UFOs and bigfoots. The stigma isn't as heavy as it used to be. But now you throw in a different variable, a different dynamic.

10:18 Fairies. Yeah, okay, after that, I studied up on them, and it's an old you know, Celtic legend and all of that, But fairies the side of the size of my hand kind of like a tinker Bell type figure. It had an alien type looking face, but it was definitely female. The voice was female and it looked feminine. So that happened. So my mind is blown. I'm not telling anybody for a couple of weeks, and then a series of events happened right around there. The cast River sighting happens, and so I go check that out. And then Aaron Young contacts me, and we've talked about all this, and I get into, all right, we're going to do this TV pilot series.

11:05 But like I said in the beginning, I had no idea. I was hoping for two seasons, and so I had to talk to the studios and say, look, I can give you. Five seasons right now. And I told them a couple of the stories and it just blew their minds. So this all leads into the inter dimensional side of things. We've got the different One of my jobs is to kind of break it down. Okay, what are the different categories at Bigfoot or people with all of the eyewitnesses we're talking to that sasquatch, Bigfoot falls into, there's so many other names, you know, Harryman. This weekend, I go to Blue Creek, Ohio. Had to get permission by the Shawnee Indians through Donna Coppis, one of my eyewitnesses. We're going down there, I hopefully get to see this big black sasquatch, who, off the top of Donna's head, believes.

12:02 To be at least one hundred and fifty years. Old, because I believe there is contact with her grandfather. And then she says, this thing was attached to her father. It's like a friendship relationship. And this thing is still alive now and she's getting up in age, and she even has another sasquatch that is attached to her. So and she refers to these things as the watchers. So we've got the watchers. We've got, you know, the good old fashion which has been the main narrative up to this point, the Ji Dantatithecus so and then talking with a friend of mine, Aaron Spencer, they could be an ancient human tribe or an ancient human Indian tribe that branched off. Then you know, I've got an eyewitness and grand Rapids who's been told by his relationship with a certain plan out there that they are the star people.

12:57 And they turned from orbs to sasquatch and back into orbs. Then what's so crazy about this is even some of a pupple, I would say, of my hardcore friends who believe that these were the Nephlum, And that's a whole other narrative. They're even starting to lean towards the possible star people and miners of the earth, either the star people or they're dropped off by the star people to mind the earth for the minerals that the ancient aliens need. So that's a narrative. And then also Donakopis I'm really excited to go about this weekend, does believe that they are of the star people.

13:41 So my job is to respect all of that, is to bring this, like I said before, into an entertainment realm, but yet still respect the eyewitnesses one by one. So for me as a Christian, you know, this has caused me to holly just go okay as a Christian, how do I justify this? So then you read versus like Revelation six' eight about the pale horse and its rider's name Was death and he is given authority to kill by by the, sword by, famine by, plague and by wild. Beast, now the Ancient greek is theory on for, that and that interpretes into wild.

14:30 Beasts so part of The christian narrative. Is, that, okay part of the judgment, is you, Know god's gonna let this, death this pale horse rider unleash certain judgments upon mankind and go. OFF i believe it's like two thirds of the human, population and one of those pools to kill off two thirds of the human population will be wild. Beast so guys Like La marzouli believe this. Narrative and it's not. Specific so sure it could be a, wolf it could be a, lion but is it also these? Things and then that goes to there's another verse that connects to all That luke twenty one to, eleven where it says in The Last, Dage jesus is talking and he's breaking it, down and he, says in the last days you'll see fearful.

15:21 Sights and basically signs from the. Heavens i'm kind of paraphrasing, it but the fearful sights in the Original greek is the word boba, tribe. And that actually means. Monsters all, Right so if we just insert That jesus, says in the last days you will see monsters and of course it talks that goes on to talk about things coming down from the, heavens which is, appo and that means something that will descend from the sky and rainus from the, heavens so to. Speak so Basically. Jesus is, saying in my interpretation now with all That i've been, learning is in the last, days you know to of the signs that you will, see knowing that it's the last, days is you will see monsters and you will see UFOs.

16:11 Coming down from the. Heavens so this is my job to put this all, together to go out to get all these different narratives and to interview the. Eyewitnesses, WELL. I come upon a gal Named Angie, elizabeth so and Also Tammy krassik has been very. Helpful tammy's wonderful AND i got to get back with, her want to get her on the. Show Angie elizabeth And Tammy krassick And Matthew, sexton who we've talked about, before have brought in the narrative that, hey these things are. Interdimensional they can mind speak, now all, Right so let's jump into that right, now because in the back of my mind being a press to, go, Man i'm like mine. Speak oh come, on you, know and this is just me thinking to. Myself i'm not criticizing, them but this is.

17:09 New you. Know i've been involved in this, subject you, know until last three years. Heavily and So i'm, okay mind speak and okay With Matthew. Sexton they're opening up, Portals they're going in and. Out matthew has a great story about walking into a portal immediately getting. Sick he wasn't sure if it was the effects of the portal or the, infrasound so he backed out of. There and Then Angie. Elizabeth Angie, elizabeth oh my, goodness he's. Got him living on her. Property so she's a medium, type psychic type of. Person and there are these people who are just more in touch with WHAT i would call the other.

17:51 Side SO i go over to. Meet Angie elizabeth and she's explaining her, encounters and. She asked these, creatures this whole. Family she's got a whole family of three, sasquatches but actually four. Sasquatches the daughter moved From angie's land across the, street so there's another hint that these sasquatch day together in family. Clans But angie starts communicating with these. Things they initiate it because she's new in the. House it seemed to be that they didn't like the former, owner a former residents of this. House And angie picks, up you, know as she hears sounds and she is getting she starts hearing mind speak and one of them say stupid human And angie's, like, HEY i can hear, you and the things like What you're one of the humans who can hear. Us so he's, like, well what do you?

18:55 Want so she's, like, Well i'd really like to see. You you, Know i've heard this sounds around my, house so there are physical sounds going. ON i. Believe the first one was like this large kind of train whistle that came from across the, street and, well snita bout. Angel let me insert this is she is an urban bigfoot. Eyewitness these bigfoot are living just, outside not far outside Of detroit, everybody so these things are everywhere to. Me the key aspects are water and. Food here In, michigan we just have a ton of, deer so they love. It but her first encounter she, has she hears a whistle like a train whistle coming from across the street and by the side of her house and then the back and then she's hearing, sounds other. Sounds she's picking up on very strong smells coming out of her.

19:50 Garage and then she gets picture of. Footprints, okay and she has the mind speak, incident and this thing lets her see him and. He steps out on the side of. The road and she's able to get a good view of, him and he walks by the down the side of the road and this Is. This is in the McCombe. County area Of, michigan so just north Of. Detroit and this thing walks on the side. Of the road and then back into the. Woods so she's finally seen. One but the communications starts to pick up from there and a terrible.

20:34 Situation so she's got a nice bigfoot family living on a. Property she also says there's a dog, man which is a nice dog. MAN i want to elaborate more on. That and she has names for all of these. Things one that the child, Bigfoot she's Named, olaf and he will WATCH tv. Through her. Window she'll leave A tv on in one of her. Bedrooms and this small sasquatch will well he's getting bigger, now will watch HER tv through through the. Window so she has a full on relationship with The sasquatch family and she's seen him more than once, now but she had an.

21:15 Encounter so this is where we come. In this is the big argument in The sasquatch world is all, right are they all good or are they all? Bad are they like? Humans some, good some? Bad and that's kind of kind of What i'm settling into the summer good some are. Bad, well she has an. Encounter so she's getting along great with This sasquatch. Family they're letting her see her and she's she's got all the evidence. Footprints you can see that in our episodes on our YouTube. Channel but one night she. Has an, encounter a mind speak, encounter and she hears a voice and speaking to her and telling her that it's an Elder. Sasquatch all, right so kind of Like indian tribes think that how the elders are really revered and all of. That so she hears this Elder sasquatch speaking and he starts saying this over and. Over tom, Outside i'm, hungry and she's, like, where, well where's? Naboo NABOO i believe is the correct name for The sasquat family male that she has a great, relationship and this Elder sasquatch, says, well he can't hear. You i'm an Elder, sasquatch So i'm blocking. Him tom, Outside i'm. Hungry so she's, like,

22:46 well you, KNOW i only feed you, know my friends on the. Holidays she's made an agreement to feed her family on the, holidays so she'll get them and all that kind of. Stuff and she, says, Well i've only agreed to feed them on. Holidays, no you guys know how to. Forage you, know you can feed yourselves better THAN i can feed. You and he, says come, Outside i'm. Hungry and she's starting to kind of get what's going. On and she, goes wait a, minute have you ever tasted human? Flesh and this Elder sasquatch, responds, yes come, Outside i'm, hungry and so she is very.

23:31 Fearful she's, like, No i'm not no, Way i'm not coming, outside no. Way so this thing, leaves. Okay and she Is angie is one of the most wonderful People i've ever met my. Life gentle, spirit very, kind you, know doesn't want to hurt, Anybody. No ulterior. Motives she just is who she, is so she is. Devastated you. Know it kind of. Registers to her, that, wow not all of these creatures or these beings are our. Friends well after, that.

24:15 Other sasquatch come and visit her house and tell her that they will protect. Her from this one individual who wanted to eat. Her, basically so that is my First, like So i've got The Matthew sexty walking to a. Portal he's telling, me, YEAH i believe they're, interdimensional all this kind of. Stuff so that was easing me into. It Angie elizabeth is dunking me under the, water And i'm, like, what, okay, okay all, right that's gonna make for GREAT. Tv i'm going with. It so one thing leads to, another and THEN i start having occurrences. MYSELF i get invited to A i have a. PROPERTY i might have mentioned this. Before i'm not allowed to say where this location. Is WHAT i can say is it's along The Lake huron shoreline up by The thumb Of, michigan so that's a lot of.

25:15 WATER i have to be vague about it because the owner of this land is a government official and he does not want to be associated with any narrative having to do With. Bigfoot he does want his superiors to know that he believes In. Bigfoot and what is so crazy about this is every member of his human, family there's four people have seen their own, sasquatches so and they figure what they've seen is anywhere between two and four different. Sasquatches SO i get out there AND i start taking a look around and one of the pictures is in the.

25:55 Episode there's orbs on their. Property there's footprints that appear and, reappear there are what's crazy about it is when we're talking a, dimensional it's like these things are able to stay outside of our, dimension but then they come to our dimension. To, eat to, drink to do. Whatever and SO i went back into this property AND i found these little huts and it was almost like a. House each sass watch as kind of their own little, area like you know our. Families you go into the, house everybody's got their own, bedroom their own little, areas, workstations.

26:40 Whatever and this is how this property is laid. Out so after doing more, DIGGING i realized it's an old apple orchard and it's berries and, nuts multiple. Beer there is a this is very. Important there is a natural, spring said. Pod but one of the Things i've learned about is the cleaner the, water the better for these. Individuals high flowing, rivers not too much like the. Swampy you, know maybe they're, there but it's probably there to find. Food but they're they're not going to be drinking the. Water they're looking for the precious water they can. Find SO i get out there and my girlfriend's hearing. GRUNTS i finally hear a, grunt And i've got the tripod and camera in my, hand AND i set this sucker down real, quick AND i do a one eighty pan with the camera and you can see this picture in one of our, EPISODES i think it's episode it's episode, eleven and that episode is Called The watchers among The.

27:50 Trees AND i get a picture of a sasquatch peeking out from behind a. Tree AND i believe This sasquatch's name Is. Scout And i'll. Tell you, why because right after this, INCIDENT i start getting visitations at my. House, okay the first one upset me BECAUSE i wasn't. Home so there's an old thing when it comes to. Sasquatch if you go and say their territory and you're looking for them and trying to check them, Out they're going to follow you home and come to your, area your. House and check you. Out DID i believe that WHEN i was first told and not.

28:33 REALLY i think it Was Scott. Carpenter you, know he's he's since passed, away and that was the first TIME i. Heard it was from one Of Scott carpenter's. Videos So i'm at work the first, Night i'm at work and the girlfriend calls me and she's, Like, Hey i'm hearing banging on our. Camper i've Got i've got, house And i've got like a side, lot so to, speak and we've got a camper. There and she calls. Me she's, like, Hey i'm hearing the bangs on the. Camper so she goes out, there she gets her, gun she goes out, there and she takes a look. Around everything falls. Silent so Then i'm like starting to, Remember, okay maybe maybe something's going on. Here we go down to The West Virginia Bigfoot museum and we also figure visit The Mothman. Museum and then what coincides with that IS i catch something on my security cameras When i'm not there, again, Okay.

29:32 AND i Have. JEREMIAH i have tried. And tried to analyze this video and figure out what this thing. IS i have all the other Videos i've. Got you, Know i've got deer walking through my, yard, plossoms, raccoons anything you can, imagine straight, dogs, coyotes, whatever at one time or, another if it's an, animal it's been walking through my yard and it's been caught on cameras. WELL i catch this spider and we've now if you're interested in bigfoot and, sasquatch you have heard about the spider. Crawl and there's this thing that quickly and it looks like basically have a camera trap. System if you get away from one, camera you're gonna get caught on the next.

30:19 Camera so any if you're approaching my, house you're gonna get caught sooner or. Later so it looks like this thing is evading the first, camera and then the second camera captures the tail end of this. Thing it's only about g about a second. Long and this thing is like a spider crawling and it's. HUGE i saw that that WAS i think Because i've been very animal analytical doing this WHOLE tv pilot. Series you, know my concern has always been is WHEN i finally do see a, bigfoot you, know five feet from, Me i'm gonna be asking him to move a little bit more to the left because the light's not.

31:00 Good but WHEN i saw this, thing AND i. Haven't released that video yet Because I'm i'm very there is enough criticism in this, industry and so it takes me a while to process, things whether it be the ferry or this thing caught on my. CAMERA i have to be settled in my own, mind, soul and spirit BEFORE i release, it and So i'm ready for. The backlash and ANYTHING i. Do you don't want to be construed as crazy either in this business when you're trying to do A tv, Show so you. Don't want to be let the crazy take you.

31:42 Over BUT i can see this thing on my camera And i'm going to release it, sometime but it's doing the spider crawl and it's so, fast and this one almost looked like it had a tail, too and so that freaks me, out all. Right so we've got the banging on the, camper we've got the spider, crawl both When i'm not. There SO i had heard you, know, hey you can ask these things what their name. Is you can speak to, them not to say you'll get a, reply. You, know give it a. Try SO i go back out. To WHERE i got the picture Of, scout And i'm, like, hey what's what's your? Name you, KNOW i don't know if you're the one visiting my house or. Not if you have a, name please let me.

32:34 Know SO i give them some. More i'd left carrots, before you, know, apples. All that kind of. Stuff, well then finally right after, That i'm at, home like this is a, conception just a line of, events you, know all coupled. Together But i'm laying in my bed and my girlfriend AND i were laying there And i've got the window cracked about half, open And i'm fully, awake AND i start hearing oh and one of the THINGS i, SAID i, SAID i WHEN i, said, hey what's your? Name AND i, said please don't bang on the camper? Anymore and please don't bang on the house because it's so. Old So i'm, like, okay, well at LEAST i communicated to them. THIS i don't know If oliver hear.

33:14 ANYTHING i don't even know if those things are at, Bis like you know your mind doubts. Yourself, well Then i'm laying in, bed the windows, cracked AND i start hearing a light scratching on my, window still just above my, head and it gets thicker and. Thicker So i'm, like, well here it. IS I i asked them to, not you, know to come When i'm, home to not bang on. Stuff And i'm hearing the. Scratching but Then i'm, like, okay well you're not. Seck it could be a, bird it could be a, bat it could be. Whatever and, Then, JEREMIAH i hear this freaking.

33:54 Growl. Perr so it wasn't, mean but it was letting me know it was. There and it is this. Thick it really. Is they really are like a low tiger infrasound type of. Thing and it's. Growling and, well WHEN i hear the window still, SCRATCHING i, SAY i hear. You as soon AS i say, THAT i hear the, growling And i'm, LIKE i hear, you thank. You for being, nice and it moves away and it's. Gone all, Right So i'm Freaking i'm, like all, right that could have been. It i'm still not. Sure i'm still doubting. MYSELF i still can't let the crazy take me.

34:43 Over and then the next incident happens normal. Night not too long after, This i've kind of settled. Down i'm, Happy i'm. Normal it's turning in the, night you, know interacting with my girlfriend and my, son and, Hey i'm gonna take the garbage. Out now you've got to walk out my back. Door and then you've got to. WALK i have a detached. Garage you gotta walk behind the garage to find the garbage. Can SO i wrap up the. GARBAGE i literally come out the back door and got it over my shoulder and dopey dopey dough normal everyday freakin'. Life AND i hear.

35:24 IT i hear my WHAT i would call my one and only mind speak. Incident NOW i didn't necessarily believe in. It i'm, like, WELL i have to respect my eye. Witnesses anything could be. Possible but THEN i freaking hear, it AND i hear a very monotone, voice very. Powerful Now i'm in the light of the porch, light so maybe the thing was, there because but. THEN i went and, looked so it's. Not. Now, NO i, WENT i walked the whole property, line AND i couldn't. Anything but, Anyways i'm walking out And i've got the garbage over my, shoulder AND i hear this very monotone voice say.

36:09 Thanks for, Friendship. Scout AND i always joke about this because. It wasn't Some englishman talking, saying, ohbrien thank you so much for your communication and all that you've done for, us being nice and gifting us and all of this and, cheerio Old. Chap it was nothing like. That it was broken a little. Bit not thank you for your, friendship but thanks for, Friendship. Scout AND i knew it was thanking me for the gifting it had, done the. Interaction i'd, had and it was telling me its name Was.

36:52 Scout SO i believe the picture we have in our episode eleven of season two Is. Scout he's the only one that's let me see. Him, well there was another. One we'll get to. That so my mind is. BLOWN i WHEN i hear the, VOICE i spin around And i'm looking for. It drop the, garbage you, Know i'm walking, properly lying looking for. IT i don't see, anything SO i do attribute that to being my mind speak. Incident so THEN. I get a hold Of matthew Sexon i'm, like, hey, man you know got mind. SPEAK i want to go out you know where The Black river bigfoots are is what we call.

37:37 Him and so we get out there and we're doing it. Overnight AND i THINK i mentioned this in the first episode WHEN i heard That sasquatch, speak and it's. Just like nets From Sasquatch, ontario. Just so, low and we believe it might have been saying thank you for taking neapple and all of. That so then the next, INCIDENT i get out to this private land. Again i've been out there a couple of, times and Now i'm doing an overnight. And i'm up all.

38:18 NIGHT i work, midnight so it's no problem for me to be up all. Night but like back through, section he passed out WHEN i heard The sasquatch. TALK i get to this property and the guy's out, there and you, know it doesn't take him but a couple of hours and he passes. Out and there is the witching, hour what's out a Doubt and when these things move into an, area the air. Changes there is a presence about. It so if he passes, out we're in the. Tent i'm laying there AND i here and the tent is right next to the naturally spring natural spring fed pod AND i hear big splash And i'm, like, well that was too big.

39:02 To be a. Goose you, know the biggest things we have landing in the water here In, michigan or gooses and the herons and all of that here in the. Thumb you know, It we've been hard pressed to have any kind of black bear sighting or cougar. Sighting, yes there have been rare, sightings but years, ago. IF i hear a big splash And i'm, like, Well i'm gonna get out there And i'm gonna take a look. Around i've got my new thermal imager video, camera And i'm gonna get out there And i'm gonna use that. Thing i'm gonna do WHAT i SAID i was gonna. Do this is Why i'm, here, Right SO i get, Out i've got my head lamp on taking a, piss and THEN i started messing with the thermal imager And i'm, like, OKAY i got to learn how.

39:47 To use this. Better AND. I take the thermal imager AND i got it on video recording And i'm looking at the pond AND i can't really see. Anything in the pond and THEN i. Panned so let's say the pond is twelve o'clock on the. Clock WELL i, panned AM i right at about two or three o'clock AND i see. Something So i'm. All, RIGHT i got to practice with this thermal, imager video machine. Whatever And i'm focusing in And i'm focusing, out and FINALLY i realize it's. Deer Now i'm going back and forth from the pond to see what initially made that, big huge splash and back to the. Deer so twelve o'clock to two, o'clock twelve o'clock to two, O'clock i'm just going back and fourth AND i kind of dial into focus a little, bit And i'm, like, yes that is two maybe three deer over. There and ONCE i kind of settle that in my, BRAIN i spin.

40:45 AROUND i Do NOW i hadn't done. THAT i had. Twelve o'clock and two, o'clock and so SUDDENLY i shoot to ten three o'clock AND i touched this, thing and at FIRST i was unsure what the heck it. WAS i could see the back of something and it's moving through the. Field NOW i didn't include this part of the video a lot of, times if people want to rip you, off you, know they'll they'll steal stuff and climb it for their own in this whole bigfoot world. Thing so WHAT i try to do is IF i have one, footprint a lot of times there's two, footprints But i'm only showing one of the. Footprints so in this VIDEO i only show part of.

41:29 It in that, EPISODE i didn't show WHAT i thought could have been a bigfoot spider crawling Because i'm really kind of unsure at this. Point, well then it disappears BEHIND i don't. KNOW i call it a tree. Bush i'm a city, boy So i'm still learning about the. Outdoors you, know some of these guys can well that's a cedar, tree and that's a that's an, oak and you know they've been out in the woods their whole. Lives, Me i'm. Learning So i'm trying of tree bush, there but it's very thick and this thing that is maybe. Crying, heck it could have been a deer's. BACK i don't. Know at this, Moment i'm not sold on. Anything it disappears behind this big tree, bush but when it comes out the other, side it. Stands it has stood up already it's standing and walking out from behind this tree.

42:27 Bush and these these are the moments when you, go, ho what the you, know your your mind spikes and your current reality changes and what used to be fantasy or myth comes into. Reality and this thing steps out one or two feet and it's very, quick and it it immediately does about face and walks back. In Now i'm, freaking And i'm, like, okay wait a, minute what the heck was? That that looked like a bipedal creature and it's. GONE i take a couple of steps in that direction to kind of, look AND i don't see, anything And i'm, like why.

43:13 The heck did it turn? Around why did it? Leave you, know my mind's, going, SHOOT i needed MORE i needed more, footage all this kind of. Stuff and THEN i, realized like an, IDIOT i still had my head lamp, on. SO i formulated That i'm not saying this thing couldn't see. Me it probably saw, me and maybe it was the original thing that jumped in its. Pond in the pond AND i had my head lamp on at the. Time but THEN i started focusing on the, deer and NOW i now believe that this was a sasquatch that worked its way around and was coming up behind, me not necessarily to attack, me but was coming up behind me to check me. Out but like an, IDIOT i had my head lamp, on and once he saw THAT i was looking in his, direction he didn't a ball face and turn. Around so then people, say, well how do you know that was a? Sasquatch, well because we measured it the next morning and the branch where the head was.

44:13 At is eight to nine feet. Tall SO i am, like holy, crap everything that these people are telling me about their property is. True i've got the picture of the orb right after we gifted THEM i had, left and then a couple of days later we got a picture of one or the. Landowner let me be clear about. This the landowner got a picture of one standing in the. Trees you can see its face that's in the episode as, well watching. Her and it was a day AFTER i gifted a pile of carrots and the. Landowner let me go back real. Quick the landowner originally started seeing these beings is because they grew had a meat rabbit farm and they were piling the innerts and the skins out in one particular, pile and one day that pile was, gone and suddenly sasquatch starts showing.

45:09 Up so they stopped doing. That, well when they started showing themselves, AGAIN i had gifted a whole pile of carrots and left them in their huts and all this kind of. Stuff so then we get the picture from the landowner of the one watching from the. Trees but then also there's a quick little video of a sasquatch in the distance slamming down a big stick that the landowner got as. Well and then on top of, IT i have heard the. Audio so right, now think About sierra, sounds think about Sasquatch ontario nests in that the landowner brings to me what he has audio of two or three sasquatch on this private property, talking and.

45:57 It is very similar to The Sierra. Downs it is very similar to naff and the loneliness of WHAT i had heard from the port The Black river. Dateslink but then what's neat about this audio is the landowner is sitting on. His deck when he's doing, this and you can hear him going talking back and, forth. And then they do some whooping and the landowner does a. Whoop, well The sasquatch immediately respond to the landowner the first. Time when the landowner whoops again the second, time you can tell that The sasquatch realized that that's not one of, them and their whole turn tone.

46:43 Changes they're they're like they do the, whoops and then it's like they get. Upset they're like they're saying back to this, landowner, hey knock it. Off we realize that you're not one of. This and that is next to The sierra sounds and nets, singing that's the freakiest Thing i've ever. Heard and then of course WHEN i heard the ones. Speak, still we've got these things and they are inter dimensional. Beings i'm trying of settling in on. That and those are my encounters. Up to this.

47:23 Point and Now i'm going To Blue, Creek Ohio Shawnee. Indians donna coopis and she says she mine speaks with. Them i'm gonna go Through shawnee type ceremony headget permission to be there Through, donna and she says that like she'll be able to touch, me and she says she can see them and she'll be able to touch. Me and Then i'll be able to see. Them so when we get, there we're excited to find that. Out but there's too much information out there that says that these things are? Interdimensional are they the star?

48:08 People? Me you, know with My christian, BACKGROUND i try to be faithful through my, upbringing AND i lean towards the, nephylum you, know their generations down the, line The Falling angels, came they got it on with the earthly, women they spawned The, nephlum and now these beings could be you, Know Melvick techum did THAT dna study that it was a human mother and an unknown. Father so WHEN i think about, things you, KNOW i think about if you've got A google and you punch, in, hey how many different types of insects there are there? Are WHEN i looked. At, it was nine hundred thousand to three million different types of. Insects so if you throw that in the, mix if you throw in even like let's say the feline or the canine type animals that have so many different, variations and even us human you, know from black White, asians all of, THAT i do believe that some of these could be interdimensional. Beings BUT i also believe That, hey maybe some are more, diluted maybe they lost their powers over. Time maybe some are more, gigantipithecusts because there's definitely a biological aspect where they leave physical, evidence you, know of their own choosing a, cheams and they seem to do that only to certain individuals who quote unquote might have the. Sight SO i tend to think that

49:40 there are just different levels of abilities with all these different types of. Sasquatches and here in the thumb Of michigan, ALONE i have accounts from eyewitnesses of every different color of sasquatch here In michigan we have. Seen we've got reports of ones that look like a. Range but, then you, know the upper peninsulal account will just past her driving down the road where he sees the one feeding on the deer, carcass and it looks up and it's got the face of a. Man and Then sean pettittt From, oklahoma he, says this was just a giant, man and, yes it has an air from brown, air but it was bill Like. Arnold and THEN i got the guy down the street here who saw a fourteenth footer and he said it was more of A Lebron james or, lanky tall type of. Preacher and then that wasn't that led to the next, encounter which was at the. Petroglyphs you, Know i've got one wooing and responding and since then this sounds, Crazy this sounds, crazy BUT i will find and it started With Angie. Elizabeth there is a gifting and retrieval type relationship With Angie elizabeth and these creatures which is now kind of pressed on to me WHEN i go into and LIKE i always, say you just can't walk into the woods and find. Sasquatch you got to go to the locations where they're, at where they commute back and, forth maybe even. Migrate but now WHEN i go to a, LOCATION i will be gifted from the.

51:13 Sasquatch this is crazy, stuff right, Know. JEREMIAH i will be gifted what's called a why Stick and, yes other of it's just a. Branch. LOOK i come out of my tent AND i find a y. Branch stuck into the. GROUND i walk down a trail and then two minutes Later i'm walking back and there's a why stick prop right in the middle of the. PATH i go to the petroglyfs AND i hear wool right in front of, me AND i see a y stick that was dragged and the trail dragged from the river and set nicely on the. Bank it's. Crazy so NOW i believe every so OFTEN i get gifted from these. Creatures Because i've been friendly to, them BECAUSE i show respect to, THEM i will get gifted why.

51:59 Sticks And i've got two or three of them here in my podcast studio right. Now so what DO i, Believe. Jeremiah it comes back TO i don't, know and no one, knows and there are no experts in this. Field what we know is that there are multiple different types of beings or creatures with different capabilities in different. Levels LIKE i, said think about insects or, tigers or felines or cats or. Dogs some can be more Like. Gigantipithecus others they might be their own species for all we. Know are they part of The nasalone? Bloodline are they The star? People we don't exactly know what they. ARE i do, BELIEVE i do lean towards A some are, good some are.

52:54 Bad but now we're ramping up for season. Three oh oh, gosh you get time through one more. Story Cherry REDEE o great. Woman you, know here's another non. Believer AND i love these because there are people who are not expecting. Anything there are people going through their normal daily lives and doing their normal daily, thing and then an encounter. Happens Cherry, redew who's the first episode of our season two on our YouTube, channel ran into a huge sasquatch who left a footprint that's in the.

53:34 Episode but he mind spoke to, her long story short that he was the guardian and cheaper of the children of the. Forest she didn't know what that. Meant we do a. First part episode after. That this thing starts visiting your house and Then sherry find a graveyard Of American indian children who contracted some disease from some missionaries that had come Into. Michigan so this thing had mind spoke to, her referencing that he was a guardian and keeper of the children of the. Force now these, children These Native american, children had, died you, know one hundred years, ago you, know and so it's, like oh my, goodness the narrative that these things live anywhere from fifty to three. Hundred, now somebody just told me five hundred years they, think and that goes back to grandfathers and fathers and then children seeing the same sasquatch multiple. Generations so everyone has to decide what they want to Believe bigfoot Or sasquatch.

54:57 Is And i'm here to tell you there's multiple different, kinds multiple different they're their own, species but multiple different kinds of that species with multiple different, abilities with a hierarchy of. Elders and then you know they. Have the biological fact where they fight alpha males fight one. Another you, Know we've got a story which is only a year old here In, michigan and the up long story, short a guy took some shots at A sasquatch clan and ended up being killed for.

55:39 It you. Know so, yeah in my, opinion you don't go out. On in the woods and try to shoot one of these. Things you're gonna lose every. Time more likely they are going to move away from. You they love watching, us just like we watched them multiple sightings from. Playgrounds, well the Big foot will stand in the trees and watch the kids on the. Playgrounds but then you, do you've got the darker, side you, know the four one one mysteries and all of. That, yeah so that's that's a lot on my. Story which is which is on. GOING i don't think IF i had the fairy. Sighting the fairy sighting blew my mind LIKE i could ease into the. Sasquatch but then when the mind speak, happened that took it to an another. Level hearing one speak and then WHAT i believe the one sneaking up behind me on the, thermal but the fairy one blew my mind THAT i need to be careful of WHAT i THINK i know and just kind of take things as they.

56:48 Come, Oh, brian it's this is also a really good case study of the whole thing. Together what will happen, guy if you get into it. More just the STORIES i hear are very very, Similar, brian has It has it gotten to a point where you trying to shut it down because it goes too? Far because sometimes that can come. Up, yeah, okay so let's let's get into The christian. Wealm everybody's got to decide if they want to be A christian or not or follow the. Hierarchy this is where my, religion my personal relationship With Jesus.

57:30 Christ comes into. Play when it got a little bit overwhelming at the, HOUSE i did, say, hey look. Guys you Know i'm. Concerned so in the name Of, jesus if you're not of The, lord. Don't come around. ANYMORE i haven't had encounters at the house since, then but since, THEN i did hear the bigfoot. SPEAK i did catch the one on. Thermal I'M i can't say they're. ULTIMATIC i can't go into that, realm AND i don't want to label that because There i've got A. JEREMIAH i got an. Eyewitness Uh Sheryl green and hers is a wonderful. Story he was rescued by a couple of.

58:19 Bigfoot she was about to be buy a couple of school kids when she was a girl in, school and these sasquatch came out and thrown stone started throwing stones at these boys and chased them. Off and then for a while there they would kind of follow her home from school in the tree. Line and now wherever. She, goes she'll kind of communicate with a different sasquatch clan here. There it's almost like if you seek these things, out these things are going. To seek you. Out you. Know it's that old Moth. Man if you've seen The Mofman prophecies movie With richard. Gear there's a saying in there that one these things know that you know that they're. Real they make themselves, known they start showing. Themselves and that might not be every, case but that's what it's been for.

59:14 Me, yeah it's been. Crazy but on the on the flip, side, MAN i don't want to be a too dark a picture because it's been a it's been a ton of fun learning from the eyewitnesses and this is a serious subject to the. Eyewitnesses and yet right now we're, scheduled we're starting our third season right now. Filming we're gonna do a total of Five that's ALL i know right. Now and of course we've got the podcast. Show and really there's a lot of competition and at a lot of saturation now with the, subject And. I'm not interested in. That i'm really interested in bringing people, together kind of collecting the data because on a on a simple, level you, know LIKE i tell my, boys you, know my one kid's Like, dad you're just getting old and you want something to do when you, retire and it's no when you go out in the, woods make sure you take somebody with you.

1:00:11 When you go out in the. Woods if you see one of these things just move away because they're. There they're. There your story is there's parts of it that's very similar to, mine where trying to think of how to say. This you are very much drawing a line in certain, areas but in other areas you're going for it, too h WHICH i think is important BECAUSE i also HAVE i have A christian background as, well and there ARE i think as part of. This it's a thing where you st art it's almost like you become a, beacon right or. Something And i'm not quite sure how it, works but it's, like you, know you go out into areas where there's a lot of big foot, activity and then after it, like, yeah you're going to start to notice weird stuff happening around your, place, right and, uh you know you gotta be you gotta be careful that sometimes you got to shut it, down, Right.

1:01:24 Oh, exactly you can't Go, yeah. It's just it's a very very. Interesting there's no there's no book to read that tells, You, okay here are the, rules you, know but you just you don't have to be careful because it opens up stuff that is weird and you're just In, michigan. Right, oh it's, weird what's out of? Doubt and then NOW i gotta. GO i gotta film an episode next At june where a lady has a relationship with Dog. Man so what do you do about? That there are multiple different creatures out there.

1:02:05 That we are now being exposed. To for, me it is about getting the word out, there just for safety's, sake you, know for safety's, sake if. Anything and, TWO i don't want the big thing for, me you, know when you have. KIDS i didn't want my boys like freaking out one, day like having an encounter and then losing their minds over. It NOW i can, say all, RIGHT i don't care if you call me. Crazy here's what's happened in my. Life so in the back of your, mind or like my dad used to, say just put it on the shelf so you're not. Overwhelmed if something ever does, happen.

1:02:45 It will be interesting to see what happens after you do. That Dog man focused, one because so my personal belief is that there's nothing good at all with the whole Dog. MAN i give it to, me what what are? They what are they an? Experiment give it to me for a. SECOND i don't know what they are But i've never ever heard anyone that's, like oh, yeah like it was a great, experience and it's always been like a, terrible, terrible dark experience with these, guys unless you've heard something. Else, okay, no, No, Well Angie elizabeth, says there's the one that is friends with The, bigfoot you. Know for dog man sightings real, quick So, Sandusky. Michigan i've got an account of sighting just south of.

1:03:36 Me. Adolescent all, right so let's bring in this. Aspect an, adolescent a smaller dog. Man so that brings into the whole breeding population, question males. Females so adolescent been for just south of. Me then last Year i'm talking within the last, Year, Carol. Michigan dog man standing in the middle of a church parking. Lot one of the patrons of the church is cutting the. Lawn they are making their, lines they're paying attention to the lines in the, lawn and they look up and there's a dog man standing in the parking lot glaring at. Them what do you do about. That that's a town where people are all. Around i've been to the. LOCATION i don't.

1:04:24 KNOW i don't know how to handle, it which is kind of WHY i Just i've got my hands full with the whole bigfoot. Thing but you, KNOW i had a Specific michigan question for, you And i'm just curious if you, know maybe you've already been out to this, area but have you been out to the area just north OF i guess it'd be On Google. Maps It's Huron Manistee National, force like Around marilla and interlocking and all. That, no we're not, yet But i'm sure we're gonna get. There i've got two. Sightings, well sure you reduced sighting was just north of, there, okay and then the other guys at Bear lake or. Something then there's another sighting by.

1:05:10 There BUT i have not been, there BUT i have. Heard, man can you tell me one of the encounters. Off the top of your, Head i'll tell you this must so if you want to hear some crazy stories THAT i talked to these, two these two cool older gentlemen from around the area about their crazy bigfoot. Adventures but it is so active in that area that the town Of marilla had the name for the bigfoot around the. Area is The Marilla. Gorilla not even, kidding, Dude. Oh, yeah, Back i'm, Right i'm writing this. Down, yeah so Now i'm gonna go investigate. This you. REALLY i, mean, man if you could EVEN i got.

1:05:53 It i'll look up which particular episode it. Is but, man these, guys, yeah but, Uh, Marilla gorilla and. Just. EVERYONE i, mean it's it's so. Crazy it's like messing around with the garbage and back of the bar in one of the town's around, there like it's some crazy crazy. Stuff and you, know like Dog man is over there In Mannistee National forest as. Well oh you know, What, OKAY i got it on the map right. Now that is not too far If i'm, correct From, Barryton. Michigan and there's another story. There one of my eyewitnesses when she was a, girl there's a campground, there he got into a relationship with the Young. Sasquatch every summer she'd go up there and would hang out with this Young sasquatch and then she would throw steaks to the male who would the big alpha male who would stay just outside of the.

1:06:52 Camp but that is By So i've Got marilla on the. Map. Fantastic, yeah it's it's episode seven forty. Three if you want to check it out all about that, area you'll love. It but, dude, man you are getting to some some wild. STUFF i love how you are just going for. It and you, know, guys if you haven't checked out the YouTube, Channel i'll have the link again in the show, notes so you can go directly. There but you know everyone needs to go there that's listening to. This check it, out subscribe. The YouTube channel On bigfoots Of. America nice and THE tv pilot show Is bigfoots Of.

1:07:35 Michigan so, anyways. Perfect, Perfect well, Man, brian it has been Just i'm glad we're able to have you back on and to get the whole, story which if you put it, together it's an INCREDIBLE i mean really hopefully you thinking about putting together a book one day at the end of all. THIS i, mean it would be a pretty cool. Story but. You just started thinking about. That you, KNOW i am kind OF i like the social media in the, films but it's just what you just said that it needs to be more organized and laid out to me in a chronological. Order and, yeah SO i do have a name for the BOOK i will.

1:08:19 Write i'm starting, it But i'm not going to complete it until we're done with this five year. Project and Then i'll compile all the information in a. BOOK i just have the title for. It so, anyways. That is that's a super super good. Idea but, man thank you so much for coming on the. Show is there anything else that people would need to know about you that they can you, know ways that they can reach out or other ways to follow you besides the YouTube? Channel. Yeah, yeah you can go To bigfoots Of michigan dot. Com so That's bigfoots with an s Of michigan dot. Com if you want to get a hold of, me go to Either bigfoots Of michigan at gmail dot com Or bigfoots Of america at gmail dot.

1:09:06 Com if you've. Got a siting In michigan and actually now anywhere in the, nation let me know and we Might we're planning on going To, oklahoma Maybe, Alabama North carolina to do some out of state. Filming so if you've had an, encounter contact, me we'll see what we can. Do we'll take it from. There that's, Fantastic, brian definitely stay in. Touch it'll be exciting to see what comes up next for. You but you are going down a pretty cool road and you're going to have a lot of fun while you're doing, it that's for. Sure so thanks again, Man. Thanks jeremiah for letting me be on and share all this. Information just wanted to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot society.

1:09:50 Podcast brian's account takes us far beyond the usual trail cams and tree knocks into the realm of interdimensional, beings mind, speak and the haunting idea that some of these creature might know where you. Live it's a huge thanks To Brian sawyer for opening up about such personal and intense experiences and for reminding us that once you start looking into the, mystery the mystery sometimes looks. Back if you enjoy this, episode please subscribe to the channel on, YouTube hit the bill icons who don't miss a, thing and share this one with a friend who's in The Bigfoot michigan lore with the paranormal side Of. Bigfoot and if you're listening On Apple podcasts Or, spotify make sure you're following the show if you'd leave a review that goes a long way to help new listeners discover. Us and, hey if you or someone you know has had A bigfoot, encounter especially In michigan or The Great lakes. AREA i would love to hear about. It please shoot me an email At Bigfoot society at gmail dot. Com and also don't Forget Sasquatch summerfest is coming Up july eleventh through the twelfth At Kreenwaters park In, Oakridge. Oregon Big Fust society listeners can grab a two day pass for the price of one day ad mission with CODE bfs at.

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