May 16, 2025

The Bigfoot Triangle Part 1: Uncovering Michigan’s Sasquatch Secrets

The Bigfoot Triangle Part 1: Uncovering Michigan’s Sasquatch Secrets
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Season 1

What happens when a skeptic hunts for Sasquatch — only to discover a hidden world of mysterious creatures in Michigan’s remote forests? In this thrilling episode, we sit down with Brian Sawyer, an investigator from the heart of Michigan’s Bigfoot Triangle, who shares chilling first-hand accounts of Sasquatch encounters. Brian recounts his experiences with the Sasquatch clan along the Black River, including a terrifying moment when a Sasquatch slammed a tree branch right near his camp. You’ll hear about mysterious footprints, eerie growls, and how a gift of carrots may have brought these elusive creatures closer than ever before. With encounters from Traverse City to the Minden City Swamp, this episode dives deep into Michigan’s Bigfoot mysteries, unraveling the connection between Sasquatch sightings and the hidden corners of the thumb. If you love cryptid stories, this episode will keep you on the edge of your seat.

Stay tuned for Part 2 coming in the next few weeks!

Resources:Brian's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@bigfootsofamerica-michigan

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Tonight's story isn't from a casual hiker or camper. This

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one's from a man who's spent years chasing the myth

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of Bigfoot in Michigan's remote woodlands. But what he didn't

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expect was to become the target of an ancient, unseen presence,

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tree branches slamming down, eerie growl's echoing through the mist.

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And this isn't just a legend. This is the real,

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unexplainable account of Brian Sawyer and his terrifying encounters with

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a Sasquatch clan deep in the heart of Michigan's Bigfoot triangle.

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So stay with us, all right, bigfot Society, You've got

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the privilege of talking to Brian Sawyer today. Brian's an

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individual from the Bigfoots of Michigan and Bigfoots of America podcast.

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You may have seen him on his YouTube channel. He's

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got some great content over there. But Brian, welcome to

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the show. How's it going, man, Oh.

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It's going good man. Thanks for having me on. Absolutely.

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You know I will start out with this. You had

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actually come up in a recent Michigan episode not that

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long ago, and I was like, man, I gotta have

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Brian on and hear what he's up to. From his

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side of things, I believe it was. It took place

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in the in a wildlife area around Lake Huron.

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Okay, yeah, yeah, that's it.

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Awesome, awesome, So we will definitely get into that later.

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But Brian, you know, I would love to here before

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I let you go for it. You know, definitely would

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love to hear what got you in to the Bigfoot

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community to begin with.

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Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm an auto worker.

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You know, I work for the UAWS. I do the

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grind every day. I'm I'm midnight shift. That's my bread

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and butter. But on the side, you know, for g

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about ten fifteen years now, I've been an actor, you know,

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Screen Actors Guild actor. So when Hollywood comes to town,

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you know, I'm usually partaking somehow in one of the

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big films you know, they come into town. I might

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be standing in for a big star. I might be

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a supporting actor.

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You know.

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The people I've met are Ben Affleck and Galgadott and

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Zack Snyder.

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You know, he's a director.

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Three hundred man hung out with John Hamm and David

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Harborough for about two weeks.

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And so yeah, I kind of make the rounds and

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do that kind of thing.

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Well out of that, you know, we kind of form

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an acting community here in Michigan. And then a lot

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of times we'll do a lot of independent films and

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we'll come up with concept ideas and we'll do what

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we call a pilot series or a pilot movie or

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something of that aspect.

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And I was on the set.

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I was hosting another pilot show called Pizza Monster, and

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I was on that show and we're kind of gathering

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information and eyewitnesses from you know, ghost eyewitnesses and just

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anything paranormal. Well, I met this guy named Aaron Young,

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and he's a guy from Gladwood, Michigan. And I'll tell you,

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We're all sitting around a campfire. We got the cameras rolling,

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and Aaron Young starts talking about his eyewitness encounter.

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And that was the.

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First time where the bells went off in my head, like,

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holy crap, Bigfoot is real.

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Now.

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Prior to this, you know, I'm just like so many

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other Americans.

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I saw the Patterson Gimlin film on In Search of

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with Leonard Demoy back in the seventies, and then that

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love kept going. You know, maybe the six million dollar

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man with Andre the Giant, you know, and every so

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often you catch wind of something and I mean at

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that level, not to insult anyone, but it's really just entertainment,

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you know. And then about ten years ago I started

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tuning into YouTube a little bit and getting more interested

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in the subject. But I'll tell you when Aaron Young

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gave his account.

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That's when the bells went off in my head.

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and I moved to Sandusky, Michigan, which is in the

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heart of the Thumb, and it's actually right down the

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street from where the Cast River sighting happened, just outside

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of Vassar, Michigan. You know, where that the supposed Bigfoot

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is crossing the Cast River and it might be holding

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a small or an infant sasquatch, and the kayaker got

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a video all of it.

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And you've seen that there's millions of views.

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I have different information on that encounter, and I'll leave

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it at that, but that got me just totally sike,

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and I said to myself, you know, we're gonna do

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this We're gonna do a TV pilot series and I'm

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going to travel around Michigan and I'm gonna interview Bigfoot eyewitnesses,

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and you know, I've got some connections with Hollywood, and

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then we're gonna we're gonna pitch this concept and we're

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gonna try to sell it the Hollywood and get it on,

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get it on a national platform or a major network.

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And so that's how I got started.

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And through meeting all these eyewitnesses, you know, I've had

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my own encounters now and what's really happened is I've

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been connecting the dots, and as I connect these dots,

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I am just my mind is blown.

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I never imagined that it was to this level.

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I had hoped so me living in a thumb, I

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had hoped maybe there was hey one sasquatch in the area,

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you know, more than likely. In the back of my mind,

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I'm like, I'm gonna be going up to the up

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a lot, interviewing eyewitnesses because you know, only four percent

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of the population here in Michigan lives in the U

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and most of it lives in the Lower Peninsula, and

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everything I'm hearing, most of the sightings are in the

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up and this is when I'm just getting started.

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But that is not the truth.

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And actually, without getting too dramatic, that is not, in

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some instances, the scary truth of it all. There are

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way more of these things than we ever imagined. And

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I've been going at it now saft for about two

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and a half years now. I'm out at least twice

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a month. My goal is once a week, and I'm

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following up on territories, I'm following up on eyewitness accounts.

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And there was this.

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Book Robert C. Brenner, he had written it, and that

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was one of the things that had kind of capitoled

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me as well. And it was by Robert C. Brenner

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as a book called something Bigfoot Sightings in the Thumb

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of Michigan, and then he has one i think for

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the rest of Michigan and maybe in the up and

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when you read that book, and of course other books,

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like you know, two of my favorite other books after

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that were The Creature by Jane Clement and and then

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of course big Foot, Wildman and Giants by David Pilate's.

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So you connect all these dots and me going out

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and really it's a big shout out to all of

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the eyewitnesses that I've met and I'm still talking to

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and guys like Matthew Sexton.

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You know, well, let's rewind a little bit.

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Let's kind of get into how we started trickling. And

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now I would call this saying a locomotive. You know,

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I had gone out to be one of my first videos.

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I'd gone out to the caf River and I just

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started snooping around, looking for footprints on the river bank,

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just looking for any kind of evidence because in the

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back of my mind, this thing's a gigantropithecus. You know,

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it's just really logical. It's just a big ape that has,

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you know, cross the Lamb Bridge. You know, I'm just

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following narrative. And so I'm out there and I'm looking

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around trying to find evidence, and then I start getting

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contacted by people. And one of the first people to

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contact me was a guy by the name of Jim Ingram,

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and he had been up along the Black River, which

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is in the Port here In State Game area here

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in the thumbl Michigan, just north of Port Hereon, and

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he had gone out there camping with his girlfriend a

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couple of times, and he had gone out in this

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one section. Now that's state land and it's heavily it's

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funny because it's heavily.

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Watched by the d and OUR Service. You know, you

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learn this.

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I mean, I've been out there, I don't know how

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many times now, and you learn the ins and outs

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of where to go, what to do, what not to do.

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So Jim is out there camping and he's kind of like,

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imagine like a rectangle. It's been mowed down by the

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d n R Service or whoever keeps up the land there,

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and it's the kind of a wrectangle. But on the

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two sides, on the southern side and the western side

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is forest. So what Jim sets up his campfire. He's

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got a girlfriend and they just get the campfire rolling.

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and you know, they're kind of settling in and all

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of a sudden, they hear a growl coming from the

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south side kind of behind them, and they're a little

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bit taken aback, and they're, hm, what's that about? And

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it gets loudered into a full fledged scream, and then

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quickly after, on the west side of them, there's another scream.

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it was so loud. You know, the best thing they

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could attribute to or compare it to is a lion

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type growl, but a a little bit different, but just

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so powerful that it was jarring and it's scared. Then

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they said they're running through the mud and they're getting

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out of there. So a few days later, a couple

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weeks later, you know, like everyone, you're kind of questioning

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yourself and you're like, hey, that that really happened.

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So they go back out there.

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And they go to a different spot and the same

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thing happens, and they get out of dodge.

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So Jim starts.

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Coming back, you know, he kind of gets up his

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nerve and he comes back in the daytime and he

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finds a couple of footprints and a couple of different locations.

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So he gets a hold of me and I go

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out there and start looking around, and let me tell you,

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immediately we started finding footprints and so and we're finding

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footprints in spots. Because one of my things is, yeah,

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I kind of want to be telling the truth as

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much as IPO possibly can. I want my stuff to

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be legit that I'm putting out there. I figure if

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anyone lies to me and anyone gets away with something

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that's on them. You know, I do always go back

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after my initial interview. One of the things I do

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is I always go back to the locations, unless it's

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private land, and we'll get to that. I always go

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back to the location. I don't tell the eyewitness when

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I'm going, and I get back out there and I

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do extensive looking around, and this area I have been

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back so many times and have fault. I found multiple

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footprints on my own. So then that leads. So that

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became our episode one of season one, and that one's

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called the Black River Bigfoot. So we're making a little

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bit kind of a little of an invent and I'm

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thinking to myself this time, I'm thinking, you know, I

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hope I can get one season, maybe two.

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Hope that's what I can tell the studios.

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Hey, I'm gonna I should be able to deliver a

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couple of seasons.

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Maybe we'll get a feature film out of it. Whatever.

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Well, the next thing I know, I'm starting to get contact,

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you know, social media. You know, we didn't have this

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stuff back in the seventy in the eighties and the nineties,

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and social media.

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Is is to me, it's the best. I love it.

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I love people. I love getting to know people on

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an individual basis.

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Well, people start contacting me, and the next guy that

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contacts me is a guy by the name of Danny Skinner.

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So Danny Skinner. Now, now I love Danny Skinner. And

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the reason I love Danny Skinner is because at least

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once or twice a year, I get contacted by some

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hunter somewhere. And look, all due respect to hunters, especially

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here in Michigan. You know, it's basically an annual holiday.

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How everybody heads north. You know, in Michigan, everybody's got

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cottages up north. You work down around Detroit and then

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you migrate up north into them in the summertime, up

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to cottages. You know, come fall is the big rush

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for hunting season, and you know a lot of population

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runs up north and starts hunting, and big shout out

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to these guys. So I do have a lot of

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respect for hunters. What I don't have respect for the

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guys who call now that I've learned. What I've learned

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is the guys who call me and they're very cocky

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and they're like, hey, you know, I've been out in

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the woods for a forty years now, and I ain't

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never seen nothing, and Bigfoot don't exist, and you're full

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of crap. So when you approach me like that, then

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I'm gonna come back at you. I'm gonna be like, well,

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what do you hunt at? Okay, So you sit in

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a tree stand, the same tree stand that you and

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your father hunted at, on the edge of a cornfield,

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and you sit in that tree stand and you come down,

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you get drunk, and it's basically a party for you,

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and you're the guy who's telling me that Bigfoot doesn't exist. Well,

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let me tell you about Danny Skinner. Now, Danny lives

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off the land.

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You want to.

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You know, down south, we call them mountain men. He

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is in the woods every day. He's out there killing stuff,

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and what he kills, he eats and provides for his family.

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I had at this point. Look, let's be honest. I'm

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a city boy. You know. I grew up in the

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suburbs of Detroit.

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And my father passed away and that's why I migrated

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up to Sandusky, took over his estate, and I've been

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living up here over the past five years now. But

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you get up here in the boonies. You know where

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you're driving. Sometimes I'll drive anywhere from ten to twenty

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minutes and I won't see another car. And then you

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throw in nighttime and you're not seeing anybody. You throw

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in when I'm driving around because I'm up at all

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hours of the night, at two, three am and there's

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no one to the scene.

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You got to watch out. I'm not for one or.

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Two deer crossing the road. You got to watch out

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for herds of deer crossing the road. So back to Danny.

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Danny's that guy who's out there every day. He lives

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off the land. He doesn't he's not an autoworker like

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half of us here in Michigan. He eats the squirrels,

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he eats the raccoons. This guy is hardcore. So Danny Skinner.

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His episode is called the Butternut Creek Bigfoot out of

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season one, and Danny takes me out, and it's funny

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because Danny's got an accident and he's not even from

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the South.

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He's from the woods. He's a woodsman.

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And he takes me out and he says, you know,

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I've been out in these woods for you know, every

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day in my life. About you know, and my father

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before him and all this, and you know, my father

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had one story one time, but you know, you hear stuff.

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He said, book this one particular day, I didn't have

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my hounds with me, I didn't have anything loud on me.

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It wasn't carrying any bags. I wasn't carrying any guns.

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I was just going out deep into the woods to

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check one of my beaver traps. And he said, I

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was being quiet, whatever reason, and I came up over

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this little burn, this little hill, to see a huge

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black kind of like a brown, dark brown bigfoot just

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finishing up tearing apart a beaver dam. He said, I'm

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going out there to check my beaver traps. And he said,

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this thing just got done tearing apart a beaver trap.

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Had maybe heard me coming and had started to move away.

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He said, Now this thing's in the beaver pond.

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And he said, it's about up to its chest and

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it's moving as it's moving away from me.

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He said, it moved through that.

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Like it was nothing, he said, and it's kind of

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looking back at me, keeping an eye. I mean, he

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gets to the other side, the other bank, opposite me,

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and he grabs a little sapling and pulls itself up

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out of the water, looks back at me and gives

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a huff hump, and then walks off into the forest.

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He said, now, I'm a guy who's been out here

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every day in my life, and he goes, I gotta

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be honest. I didn't really think they were real, you know,

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like I said, I hear stories.

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But he said, until I saw it, he said, I

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didn't think it was real. He said, Now.

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I'm a believer, and he's like, I just want to

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get my story out because you know, these things are scared.

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Their presence, they're very being, is threatening to us because

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of their size, because of their abilities. You immediately recognize

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that you were out of your league when you're standing

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in the same room with these things. So Danny Skinner

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right off the bat, I kind of, I don't want

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to say I needed them, but I needed Dan. I

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needed Dan to kind of wake me up to the

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reality of Bigfoot, the reality between him and Aaron Young.

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And we'll get to Aaron in a second.

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Between him and Aaron Young, you know, it had to

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register to me that, Okay, this isn't just entertainment anymore.

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I'm making a TV show. That is meant to be entertainment.

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But there is a reality aspect to these things. In

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a way, when you're going out and looking for these things,

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you're looking for a wild creature or being that may

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or may not come at you, and you're not.

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Going to be able to do it about it.

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If they come after you, You're basically going to stand there.

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I mean, you're not even going to be able to

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run with all what. I could go on for hours

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about the things I've been learning. So Danny established that,

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Aaron established that, Jim Ingram establishes, Hey, we've got some evidence.

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Now we've got some.

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Physical evidence because too, you know, we have some very

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dramatic people out here, especially me with an actor background.

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You meet people, you know, you can.

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Imagine things, you can fantasize things. You can tell yourself

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that you saw a bigfoot when you really didn't.

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You just saw the rear end of a deer or

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something like that, and.

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You can fantasize that you saw a bigfoot. But when

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you start meeting the eyewitnesses, as I said before, it's

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very jarring and the reality of these being, so these creatures,

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really comes into play.

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So right after that, I get a hold of.

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Aaron Young, who I had initially met on the set

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of the other TV pilot show, and I get out

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to Bladwin, Michigan, and I do an interview with Aaron Young. Now,

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it was so cool and with all due respect Aaron Man,

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one of my favorite guys, love him to death, but

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all due respect to Aaron. It was very interesting, not funny,

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very interesting to see his reaction as we went through

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the interview because he had never been back to the

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spot where he had his encounter.

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Now.

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His encounter goes back so when he was in high

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school and I think he said he was a junior

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in high school if I remember correctly, might have been

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a senior and he was its Basically, him and his

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bodies were partying down, you know. They had a couple

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of buddies and they're going out and they got their

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favorite spot outside of town. They got a campfire, and

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one night they're around the campfire and Aaron's looking across

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the fire and his buddy, and his buddy has this

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look of terror on his face, and Aaron's like, Hey,

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what's going on? And his buddy's looking over his shoulder,

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and his buddies kind of squinting now and goes, do

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you guys see that big biker guy over there? And

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everybody turns around, Well, it was behind Aaron. So Aaron

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turns around to see this quote unquote big biker dude.

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Kind of squatting down.

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Oh, it's actually sitting Indian style, you know, kind of

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like legs crossed. You know, you sit on your butt

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and most times, you know, I don't sit like dan Aymar.

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I'm getting older, but you're sitting on your button. Your

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legs are cross And they see this thing and they're

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trying to focus as to what it is, and this

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thing stands up and starts screaming at them, and once

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again like the Jim Ingram story, Aaron is like, this

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thing is so loud, it's so jarring. It's shaking our

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bodies as it scream and something that was myth has now.

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Stepped into reality.

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And they're standing there and they're they're they're in full

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Terram mode. They're petrified, and this thing is screaming at them.

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She's more like a roar, and so they high tail

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it out of there and they get to the car

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and as they speed off, this thing is still there

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screaming at them. So this is his account, and he

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hasn't been back in this location. Aaron's about my age,

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and he hasn't been back to this location and since

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he was seventeen or eighteen years.

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Of age, and now he's in his fifties.

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And as we're doing the interview, and this is what

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I was kind of alluding to before, Aaron is still shaking.

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So this is very serious. He's still shaking.

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He's starting to react to every sound that's going on

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in the woods behind us. And when you see that episode,

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that's episode three, and that one's called the Mosquito Alley Monster,

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and the place where it happened is called Mosquito Alley.

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Now it's been kind of transformed into sand dunes and

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a lot of four wheeling and you know buggy doombug

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what we would call doom buggies out there. But now

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the all the razors are out there racing around. But yes,

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so he is just looking around and he's petrified. And

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then that was an eye opener to me about the

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depth of how.

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These things affect you.

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So going back to Danny real quick, his I think

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his episode is called a Butternut Creek Bigfoot. So Aaron

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is kind of the first example of someone who's been deeply,

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deeply affected.

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You know. Jim Ingram was very scared, got out of there.

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Danny Skinner was more of the jaw dropping, like, what

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the heck am I seeing? But Aaron's got full on

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you and really let me think here, I think the

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distance between Aaron and his buddies in this sasquatch man,

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what maybe twenty five yards. I'm gonna be able to

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see it in that episode, but yeah, maybe twenty five yards.

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So his is more of a closer encounter where he

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actually gets.

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Eyes on and so he's deeply affected.

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So as a filmmaker, I'm processing all this and I

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am moving my thought process out of entertainment to how

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serious this subject is.

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So now.

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I am no longer I don't think I could be

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a skeptic anymore anyways, just because of how I see

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how these creatures affect everyday people like ourselves. So after that,

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I actually get a guy from Kentucky, Hazard, Kentucky, just

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outside of Hazard uh slump, Kentucky. I'm looking at I

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got a little key from the mayor of Hazard, Kentucky when.

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We went down in film.

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But this guy name is Hank Krest and he's a Shawnee,

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Indian and his episode, of course, is called the Shawnee

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Sasquatch and he's from slump Kentucky. He gets hold of

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me and he's like, you know, he's got the deep

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Southern accent and almost to the point where I can't

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really understand him.

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And he's talking to me about Yeah.

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He's got thirteen or fourteen sasquatch down where he lives.

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And he's talking to me like if I was talking.

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About my kids, you know, like, yeah, I got you know,

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I got two boys and you know, the older ones

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doing this and the auger ones doing that, and yeah,

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they're doing good.

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Well, this guy starts talking to me.

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Yeah, and there's this sasquatch and that sasquatch and the

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little ones come up to my house and I got

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a gifting spot right by my house.

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And this is the first time.

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So it what's so neat about this subject, which is

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so captivating about this subject of sasquatch is there are

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so many different dynamic levels to encounters two people's experiences,

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and so this is the first time now where I'm

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coming across I witness and I don't even want to

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call this guy and I witness because he has more

464
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of a family relationship with these beings. So this is

465
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.599
my first guy where I'm thinking, Okay, this guy's got

466
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.519
to be pulling my leg. So we hop in the

467
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.440
car here in Michigan and we're like, you know what,

468
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.799
let's do an outside of Michigan episode. And we cruise

469
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:25.720
down there to slim Kentucky and this is this is Appalachia.

470
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.720
So I always joke because you know, I've gone down

471
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:32.319
to Appalachian Mountains a few times. My mother grew up

472
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:37.279
in Virginia. I'm kind of in the foothills, but to

473
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.799
deep back in Appalachia.

474
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.880
I really hadn't been exposed to that.

475
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.079
And we get down there to slimp Kentucky and I'm

476
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.400
white knuckling at you know, I'm just to Michigan, where, yeah,

477
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.240
it's going to be flat. We might have rolling hills

478
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.000
and stuff like that here in Michigan, but not to

479
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.480
the extent of the Appalachian Mountains. So I'm white knuckling

480
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:04.200
on these snake turns, these serpent turns, these serpent roads,

481
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.680
and me and my girlfriend are making it back that's

482
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:14.079
slim Kentucky and we meet Hank Cress, and he's a

483
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:19.119
mountain man, you know, he is. My goodness, this was

484
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.160
an eye opener for me. And we get to his

485
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:27.079
place and he starts talking about all the Sasquatch and

486
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.359
we got to get up to the top of the mountain.

487
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.799
You know, this big, huge, twelve to fourteen footer.

488
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.839
He comes out every day about about noon and he's

489
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.599
just kind of telling there's this other one and oh yeah,

490
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:44.839
And then we gotta be careful because there's a woman's.

491
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.119
A lady's ass watch and she got it.

492
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:50.039
She's got a youngin and she just beat up two

493
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.440
of our tribe kids.

494
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.680
You know, they're Shawnee Indians.

495
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.880
She just beat two of them up because they got

496
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.440
too close to her. And she's protecting her young and

497
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.359
so we gotta be careful by her.

498
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.839
You know, she might come at us. And my mind

499
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:03.680
is gone.

500
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:08.000
You know, I'm kind of laughing inside, and I'm like,

501
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:13.000
I can't believe this guy he's got you know, it's

502
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:14.480
a whole different.

503
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:15.759
World, is what I'm trying to say.

504
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.079
So we get out. Oh my goodness. You know, my son,

505
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.680
to this day he had loaned me his f one fifty.

506
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.319
You know, I've got a truck, which I actually should

507
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.799
have taken my ranger because it was smaller up on

508
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.759
those mountain trails, but you know, his better for the highway,

509
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.920
so we took his truck, and to this day I

510
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.680
have not told him what I put his truck through.

511
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.920
His FORID f point fifty on the side of a

512
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.480
mountain with a cliff on one side. So we get

513
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.039
up there as far as we can, and I can't

514
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.480
go any farther I'd get the trucks stuck. And we

515
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:55.039
get out of the truck, and this particular you know,

516
00:29:55.400 --> 00:30:00.279
two track winds around this particular mountain until you get

517
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.400
up to the peak. So we got about three quarters

518
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.440
of the way up in the F one fifty and

519
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.519
then we had to hike it from there. And we

520
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.559
hike back up to the top, and it's beautiful up there.

521
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.960
We're finding black bear prints and just every kind of

522
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:22.079
critter out there. And Hank Cress, Shawnee Indian, shows us

523
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.279
where this big outcropping of rocket is and how this

524
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.400
one particular twelve or fourteen foot almost like a silver

525
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.920
back type bigfoot comes out every day, and we're like

526
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.920
getting up there, you know, we get up there about

527
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:37.640
one o'clock and he's like.

528
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.440
Well, I think we missed it. So in the back of.

529
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.400
My mind, I'm like, all right, is this guy pulling

530
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.559
our leg? And he's like, well, they're all around here,

531
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:50.640
and he said and I figured, I've counted about thirteen

532
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.720
different ones. And so he says, let's get out and

533
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.680
give out a yell, and I'm.

534
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.920
Like, oh, okay, So this is my first experience.

535
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:01.799
You know, you've heard of the tree knacks, you've heard

536
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.400
of the yells or the whooping, and you try to

537
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.240
get an answer. So by this time, I've seen Finding

538
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.200
Bigfoot and I understand what's going on. So Hank gives

539
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.519
out a big yell and you can see this in

540
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:18.160
the episode and there's no response, and so I'm like, oh,

541
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.799
there you go, you know, because it's still in the

542
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.160
back of my mind, I'm like, man, I don't know.

543
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:24.319
If this guy's telling the truth.

544
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.279
And then he says, well, why don't you have your

545
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.920
girl give out a yell?

546
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.839
And they like females, so they'll respond to her.

547
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.359
So in the back of my mind, I'm still like, okay, whatever,

548
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.400
pal and my girlfriend kind of giggles a little bit

549
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.880
and she's like like well, I've never done one, and

550
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.160
he's like, no, just just yell out, and so she

551
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:53.559
does wha type of deal and immediately we get I

552
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:57.359
think it's a rock clap down just down to the

553
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.839
right at about one o'clock, and then a big grunt

554
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.680
down to the left, maybe at about ten or eleven o'clock,

555
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.759
and my mouth just drops and you can faintly hear

556
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.960
both of these in the episode. And my girlfriend and

557
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.200
I look at each other and we're like, okay.

558
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.279
There's some evidence.

559
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.839
Now. Is Hank setting us up? We're not sure. So

560
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:26.920
he's like, well, let's gift him. So at that time

561
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:31.519
I brought I brought a watermelon, I brought pineapple, you know,

562
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.480
the cliche, apples, all of that, and he's he has

563
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.240
a gifting spot up there on the peak, and so

564
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.720
we dropped those off and after that we didn't much

565
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:42.559
hear anything.

566
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:44.920
Well, then we start heading.

567
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:53.240
Back and I hear a yell, more like a scream,

568
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:59.319
and it was something I've never heard before. And afterwards, yeah,

569
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.279
I looked up. You know, me being a city boy,

570
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.559
I gotta look up. Okay, what does a podcast sound like?

571
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.759
What does a cougar sound like? Here in Michigan. You know,

572
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.440
our populations of black bear and cougar are raising, and

573
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:15.240
so but I hear the scream and Hank's like, oh,

574
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.440
that's a female, and he's like, we need to get

575
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:20.000
out of here.

576
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.960
So we start coming back down and I turn around.

577
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.920
And my girlfriend's like, hey, I think I saw something move,

578
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.000
And I turnaround. I get off a couple of pictures,

579
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.279
and unfortunately, nowadays, unless you have something that rivals to

580
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:40.000
Patterson Gimlin film or the Paul Freeman footage, you know,

581
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.400
you're kind of out of lock. But we do spin

582
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.079
around and we get a couple of what I believe

583
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.319
are individuals, these dark shadows, and they're kind of following

584
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:50.319
us out.

585
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.359
So we get an see man.

586
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.279
Another half hour, forty five minutes down the mountain, and

587
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.799
we're not being yelled at anymore. No more pictures were

588
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.559
back in the f one fifty and we're driving down

589
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.000
and I'm thinking to myself, Okay, did that come all

590
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:11.599
this way for that? I would like some more evidence,

591
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:13.440
but you know, it is what it is.

592
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:14.000
It's neat to.

593
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.480
Hear Hank and his account and his relationship with these things.

594
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.639
So I'm like, okay, you know everything that happened could

595
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:22.239
have been.

596
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.159
Possibly Sasquatch. I can't confirm it.

597
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.920
But as we're driving down, something happens and it's very

598
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.559
slight and off the cuff. And as we're driving back

599
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.039
down the two track, Hank says, oh yeah, and he

600
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:38.480
said and.

601
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.960
That's and it's real quick. It's only a momentary thing.

602
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.960
He says, Oh, that's a that's a side of a

603
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.280
mountain where they cut through all the time, right here

604
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.320
and there. And so my mind, you know, bell goes off.

605
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.960
I'm like, okay, we might have evidence. And I look over.

606
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.800
At the slope side of this hill.

607
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:56.559
It's you know, there's like a hill on top of

608
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.480
a mountain or on the side of a mountain, and

609
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.039
I see all these impressions and my mouth is dropping.

610
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.599
I'm like, you gotta be kidning. And this was just

611
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.239
something that Hank, you know, I'm always careful about being

612
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.239
orchestrated or pointed in the right direction, and.

613
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.199
Hey, we got to be at the top of this mountain.

614
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.159
This is when the sasquatch, because that's when you can

615
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.760
get set up. Well, this was something that was very slight. Oh,

616
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.159
that's where they come up and down. So I get

617
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.639
out of truck and I walk over there and this hole,

618
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.159
I'm flabergacid. This whole side of the hill is covered

619
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.920
in footprints. And then the episode you can see where

620
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.880
I measure out a footprint between twenty and twenty two

621
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.840
inches long, maybe twenty three inches long, and it coincides

622
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.119
with a straight line, you know, not like us humans

623
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.119
kind of a little bit side to side our walking path,

624
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.159
but their footstrips are straight in line, and it's going

625
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.559
up the side of this hill and destrid between the

626
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.599
two footprints I'm now looking at at twenty two inches

627
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.360
is six feet going up and beautiful footprint impressions, and

628
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.000
they show that indiep Vilo, and then there's multiple other ones.

629
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.719
So something that Hank has said just kind of off

630
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:14.280
the cuff. So unless he ran out there and put

631
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.480
all these impressions, and I'm talking a lot of impressions

632
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.400
too many to count, you know, there was some more

633
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.000
evidence from me. So I'm highly intrigued by this and

634
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.599
very happy by that. So then we get back to

635
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.239
Michigan and I meet Kim and John, former members of

636
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.599
the BFROL, and we'll make this one a little bit quicker,

637
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.599
but they have multiple encounters which needed about Kim and John.

638
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.280
There are episodes five and six out of season one.

639
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.280
One of their accounts is when they see the sasquatch,

640
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.960
and the sasquatch have eyes that are almost like flashlights,

641
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.840
and that is one of the encounters that stands out

642
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:58.760
to me, and I believe that was up in the

643
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:04.039
northern part of the Lower Peninsula. So after them, I

644
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:09.159
meet Chipewah Indian Aaron Spencer, and I'm getting out to

645
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:16.280
the woods. Aaron has had many encounters. He had when

646
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:20.960
he was a kid, a big auburn colored sasquatch, and

647
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.000
then he's seen a white one and then but his

648
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:27.320
most prominent sighting was he when he was fishing, this

649
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.280
particular sasquatch had kind of snuck out behind him and

650
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.079
then had gripped a log with its foot, almost like

651
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.199
an orangutan foot, and had made a sound. And Aaron

652
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.960
turned around and this thing, I think this thing was

653
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:45.199
grinning and showing its teeth. And Aaron streaked and just

654
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:48.719
rightfully so, and ran across through the water, across the

655
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:52.559
river and ended up coming back the next day and

656
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.440
his string of fish had been taken.

657
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:55.559
Well.

658
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.159
Aaron Spencer is where the light bulb went off in

659
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.079
my head and I realized that me living here in Sandusky, Michigan,

660
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.280
that I was in the middle of what I now

661
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:11.159
call the Bigfoot Triangle. And what that has to do

662
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:15.599
with is where Aaron's sighting was was along the Cast River.

663
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.000
Going back to Jim Ingram's sighting, and we'll talk about

664
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.079
Matthew Sexton here in a minute.

665
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.079
Their sightings were along the Black River.

666
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:32.119
Now, the Cast River runs from southwest to northwest and

667
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.599
the Black River runs from you know, southeast to north west,

668
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.000
so it's basically a triangle. And they meet in this

669
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.400
place called the Minden City Swamp. Well, after some research

670
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.159
talking to a guy by the name of Valsavalla, who

671
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.440
does a lot of.

672
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:49.880
The data collecting here in Michigan.

673
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:55.119
Great guy, former police detective, private investigator, just has an

674
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.639
immaculine database of sasquatch sightings and evidence and has had

675
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:00.960
his own sighting as well.

676
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:04.599
He had helped write the book.

677
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.079
And so, long story short, there had been a DNR

678
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.880
siding with a d n R official in the Minden

679
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.480
City Swamp and he had come face to face with

680
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.199
an eight foot black Sasquatch.

681
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:18.199
So I've got two sides of.

682
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:21.239
A triangle, and the point being the Minden City Swamp,

683
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.760
so the western side of the triangle being the Cast River,

684
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:28.639
of the eastern side being the Black River. So we'll

685
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.119
get off track a little bit from the episodes. I

686
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.320
get a call from a guy south of me, and

687
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.679
this guy runs a new diest camp, and evidently they

688
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.480
had some sightings in this newest camp.

689
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.599
They're out there partying nude.

690
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.920
In Emmett, Michigan, which is along the I sixty nine corridor,

691
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.719
and evidently they're having a party one night at newdist

692
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.920
party and all sorts of music and dancing, getting kind

693
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.440
of crazy out there, and all of a sudden, a

694
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.199
group of Sasquatch start moving in.

695
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.599
So I go out there and.

696
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.360
I interview them and take a look around. But I

697
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.719
start connecting the dots, and then I find out there's

698
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.039
another sighting just down the street in a place called

699
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:19.320
good OL's, Michigan. And I start realizing that as I

700
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.480
dig into this more and I'm pulling out all these

701
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.880
eyewitness encounters that I'm actually in the middle of, like

702
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.639
this triangle where the Sasquatch either moved back and forth

703
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.639
or there is a large population of them. And when

704
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:41.440
I say large right now, I'm thinking, with everything I

705
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.039
know right now, just in the Thumb of Michigan. And

706
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.679
this is one of the mind blowing things. There's way

707
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:48.920
more of these things than we ever thought. Where I

708
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.840
originally thought, hey, maybe there's one sasquatch in the Thumb

709
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:59.199
of Michigan, there are This is gonna sound crazy, but

710
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.960
off the top of my head, in the Thumb of

711
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:11.159
Michigan alone, there could be anywhere between twenty and thirty sasquatch. Now,

712
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.440
if you know the Thumb of Michigan, that's a lot

713
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.039
because we've got a ton of farmland here. So the

714
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.880
question is is they're here and you know where are they?

715
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.400
And well, they're by the rivers. They're staying by the rivers,

716
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:29.440
and their main food source is deer. They also, as

717
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.480
we found out with Mayland skinner, they like beavers, they

718
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.000
like small rodents. They're eating whatever they can. I think

719
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:40.079
they've been taking chickens from some of the farmers as well.

720
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.599
So I'm starting to collect all this evidence. Aaron Spencer's

721
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.880
taking me up and down the cast River, giving me

722
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.400
a lowdown of all his sightings, and then so being

723
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.440
here in the thumb of Michigan, living here now and

724
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:57.280
driving so much, and now see twenty minutes of forty

725
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.199
five minutes between towns. I'm like, how come somebody just

726
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:06.400
hasn't seen one of these sasquatch walking through a farmer's field.

727
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.960
And I swear I say that.

728
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.760
And within two weeks a guy by the name of

729
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.480
Gals La Fave contacts me and he gives his account

730
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:21.400
and he's an episode looks like eight, episode eight where hey,

731
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.119
gals of Fav is driving to work and all of

732
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.599
a sudden he comes up over this little hill and

733
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:30.039
there's a big kind of like an orangutan color, you know,

734
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.960
if you know, He explains that. Giles says, if you

735
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:35.199
know the car hearts suits where they're kind of tanned

736
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:36.119
but kind of reddish.

737
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:37.559
He said, that was the color of it.

738
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.199
And it was walking through a farmer's field, and when

739
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.480
he came up over the hill, this thing stopped. And

740
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.679
so we went to in that episode, we went to

741
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.559
that location we filmed it. I believe that one's around

742
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:53.039
eight nine feet and gals was just taken aback about

743
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.719
the size because they literally looked like a tree stump.

744
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.159
You know, he had seen it moving and then stop

745
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.440
and he said, you know, this thing's as big as

746
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:04.400
a tree trunk standing there.

747
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.159
And so we start connecting the dots.

748
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:14.320
And there's a place called the Petroglyphs just north of

749
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.840
gals As sighting and I go there later.

750
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:19.960
I've been there on two different accounts.

751
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:26.119
I've found footprints, I've actually had a whoo right in

752
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:30.960
front of me, and so that is an amazing, amazing

753
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:31.760
spot there.

754
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:34.800
So as the season's.

755
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.519
Going on, I get, you know, we finished up a

756
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.280
couple more episodes. We've got a guy from Colorado who

757
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.239
comes into town. Guy by the name of Garrett Grimm.

758
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.760
He's a great tracker. We go out and we go

759
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.719
to the Black River area where Jim Ingram and Matthew

760
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.239
Sexton have had their sightings, and we go out and

761
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.719
we find footprints and we castle in those footprints, and

762
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.800
I've got that sitting in my podcast studio. And so

763
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:04.000
the dots are just connect and connecting. And so now

764
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.599
I finished up season one and the phone is ringing

765
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.360
off the hook, and I got people lined up for

766
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:15.199
season two and bleeding into season three. So we start

767
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.079
filming season two and then I start getting head up

768
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.960
to traverse city and I meet Sherry Redu and Cherry Redo.

769
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:27.519
Her encounter is really cool because she's someone else who

770
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.639
didn't believe in Bigfoot, and she's walking along the shoreline

771
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.119
of Lake Michigan and some activity starts happening. Things are

772
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.000
thrown at her, and she comes up the bank and

773
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.519
there's a sasquatch. She can see the outline of it

774
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.280
because it's getting kind of dark outside, and it's shaking

775
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.519
this tree violently, and so she runs to her truck

776
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:50.119
and as she's driving off, this thing throws a branch

777
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.199
at her, so she hadn't.

778
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:53.519
Been back and she is shaken.

779
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.880
And so in season two episode when we get out

780
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.559
there and we take a look around and she's talking

781
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.400
this is soon after this is man was that a

782
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.880
week after she had her sighting. So I'm like, well,

783
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.519
if you had this sighting, there's probably some footprints around,

784
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.039
And sure enough, we get a footprint out of that one.

785
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:15.239
We get some evidence, and her encounter is a very

786
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:22.320
dramatic Encounter two, and her sighting is the first time

787
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:26.719
we start talking about that these creatures could be inter

788
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:32.639
dimensional and something spiritual. So then after that, I meet

789
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.440
a guy by the name of Jerry Lentz, and he

790
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.079
had seen Orbs on his property back in the Thumb

791
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:41.039
of Michigan we filmed that episode. He believes he's seen

792
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.280
him Sasquatch out of the corner of his eye. And

793
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.400
I'm kind of connecting all the dots to the Black River.

794
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:51.039
And then finally Matthew Sexting gets a hold of me,

795
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.559
and I think Matthew is the guy.

796
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.079
You know, I need to jump in for context so

797
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.480
my listeners get what it's about to be said. So

798
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.119
matt is the individual I talked to most recently in

799
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:09.519
episode seven from the port here on State Game Area. Okay,

800
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.280
so go ahead.

801
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:12.280
Yeah.

802
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.280
So, so now our minds are about to be blown

803
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.159
because up to this point, Sherry redus episodes getting a

804
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.840
little bit, you know, on the spooky side with some

805
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:26.719
of the things, and a lot of that we didn't

806
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:29.840
put on film because we were Arry didn't know a

807
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:33.119
few wanted it out there in public, and I totally understood,

808
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.880
so we kept it pretty much a generic episode for that.

809
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.920
So here comes Matthew section and Matthew, you know, I

810
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.480
wish I could see that guy every day. I consider

811
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.559
him one of my best friends, one of my most

812
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:53.800
authentic eyewitness, And Matthew starts telling me about his twenty

813
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:59.639
year kind of relationship with these with a Sasquatch clan

814
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:00.239
out the.

815
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.840
Port here in state Gearing area.

816
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.559
And Matthew's talking about how, you know, I think his

817
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.599
apartment complex was shutting down and getting remodeled. So matt Man,

818
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.079
being the kind of the camper he is, he gets

819
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.440
out there for one summer and he's, you know, he's

820
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.159
going to work, but he's spending the night out in

821
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:18.960
the tent out in.

822
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:23.239
The woods along the Black River. And he starts hearing.

823
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:29.360
Growls, he starts hearing noises, he starts hearing woodknock And

824
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.639
what I love Matthew is in so many different accounts,

825
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:38.039
Matthew is an eye opener because he's the one who

826
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.800
points out to me first of all that you know,

827
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:44.760
I when I'm out overnight, I start hearing these wood knocks.

828
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.079
And so when I hear these woodknocks, I'm running to

829
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:50.920
the tree where I think the wood knock is coming from,

830
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.480
but I'm not seeing any marks on the tree. So

831
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.440
Matthew is like, hey, man, I think these wood knock

832
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:01.079
sounds could be coming from their vocal cords.

833
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:02.079
This is a.

834
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:07.079
Sound, some kind of location method that they use from

835
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:11.079
their vocal cords. And now thinking on the big scope,

836
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.679
this huge subject of sasquad and this can be used

837
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:19.880
for locating one another, like if the Bigfoot are in

838
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.000
the Klan and they're trying to locate one another and

839
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.440
they don't want people to know, you know, with necessarily

840
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.400
a howl if people are around. And the port of

841
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.800
your state game area is not too far out of town,

842
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.480
this what I still consider an urban area. So Matt

843
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.480
is out there and he starts hearing these wood knocks,

844
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.079
and then he starts seeing strange things like clams stacked

845
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.000
up on the river bank. And Matt does it better,

846
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.440
of course a storytelling about all his encounters. But he

847
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.480
starts seeing clams stacked up on the side of the river.

848
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:59.159
He sees deer stacked you know, two or three high,

849
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:04.159
and then finally he knows they're there, but he can't

850
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.239
see him. So he gets a little bit frustrated. He

851
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.480
finds out that Hey, Lucerne, Michigan is one of the

852
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.119
places where you can see sasquatch, So he goes out

853
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.360
there and he has his first eyes on can encounter

854
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.639
within ten feet. This huge, and I think that was

855
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:27.360
an a ring attained colored reddish colored sasquatch too, he said, huge.

856
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.440
Where it took one step and it you know, it cleared,

857
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.960
you know. He at one moment it's on the right

858
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.880
side of Matthew and the next moment it's on the left.

859
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:41.639
And one of the things that Matthew points out, Matthew

860
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:46.360
really describes these things in a deeper way, you know.

861
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.719
He describes the finger of these sasquatch, that these creatures

862
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:55.880
are built for cold weather and durability. He noticed that

863
00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:00.880
when this thing looked at him, Matthew rightfully he lowered

864
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.039
his head as to nat challenged this what I would

865
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:08.480
call an alpha male. And with that that alpha male,

866
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.960
even though it was so close, it kind of left

867
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.440
him alone. And I think it was even stopping Matthew because,

868
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.360
like matt said, you know, the rest of the clan

869
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.360
might have been in just nearby feeding on a deer

870
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:20.360
deer that he.

871
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.079
Thinks they may have just hunted.

872
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:26.000
So that's Matt's first big, you know, kind of sighting.

873
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.199
So then he's re energized, so to speak, because he

874
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.320
had been disappointed in the foot in.

875
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:32.480
The Black River area.

876
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:35.360
So he gets to the Black River area and he

877
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:41.480
starts seeing finally the Sasquatch clan there, and I think, man,

878
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.800
he sees what maybe when I think two to four

879
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:52.559
different individuals, there could be two adolescents and an older

880
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:56.039
brother or an alpha male, which I think maye. You know,

881
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.880
this is me kind of connecting the dots. You know,

882
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:02.679
it's a hierarchy in these clans. It's about male dominance,

883
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:05.679
you know, kind of like a lion pride. These things

884
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.719
are predators. And I got the feeling, and you know,

885
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.519
and I'm putting together all the different footprints I've found,

886
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.559
so I think there may be two adolescents, maybe in

887
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.800
their late teens, early twenties, and then you've got a

888
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.719
bigger alpha male which could be the yelpha male of

889
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.800
the klan, which is maybe in its thirties or forties,

890
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.639
so to speak. And then Matt had talked about one

891
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.400
time where he came out of his tent and was

892
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.400
crawling out and he saw a huge sasquatch.

893
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.320
With a young kind of a child sasquatch.

894
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.119
And when Matt came out, this huge sasquatch but MaTx

895
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.480
said it was the size of a rhinoceros Matt said,

896
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.639
he came out fell this huge thing and it kind

897
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.199
of drew in the younger one closer to its side,

898
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.039
and Matt just put his head down and kind of

899
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.920
scooted back into the tent. Well, I think that that

900
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.639
huge sasquatch, the size of a Ryan Ashworth may have

901
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.119
been the female, because I had just recently prior to that,

902
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:10.400
had heard about one of my other eyewitnesses where the

903
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.360
female was actually larger than the male. So I'm not

904
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:17.519
saying that's all the time, but sometimes the female could

905
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.559
be larger than the male. So I get out there

906
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:25.280
and this is when I first start having my experiences,

907
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:29.559
you know, the reality For me, I'm seeing the different

908
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.719
footprint we came up. We didn't know overnight, and we

909
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:39.000
came up to one of Matthew's favorite camping spots and

910
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.159
we just went down to the river bank and immediately

911
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.719
found somewhere between definitely two, but I would say up

912
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.920
to four different sets of footprints. Now, with all the

913
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:55.119
footprints and the pictures I take, I always separate the footprints,

914
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.239
but these footprints were together. And what freaked me out

915
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:05.920
is it almost had looked like the sasquatch had jumped

916
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.199
so it's hard to explain. There's kind of like a

917
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.480
small cliff which is about fifteen feet up I think

918
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:14.519
where the campsite is, and then to get down to

919
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.920
the river bank you gotta kind of climb down this

920
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:21.199
little cliff. But in this particular area, it's anywhere from

921
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:25.960
ten to fifteen feet high. And it looked like the

922
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.239
smaller sasquatch, which could have been And this is what

923
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.920
I believe. So this is going back to the Jim

924
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.840
Ingram accounts, the Matthew Sexton accounts, me getting out there

925
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.400
on my own all the different footprints. This is I

926
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.639
had found a baby squatch footprint at one time.

927
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.400
And so this is over a period of two years.

928
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:52.360
And now I believe these things grow extremely fast. You

929
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.880
know when they're key, when they're a toddler, you know,

930
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.320
they're the size of the ten twelve year old.

931
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:01.840
They're growing fast.

932
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:07.079
When their adolescents, they're six to eight feet funy way,

933
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.800
if we get down to the river bank, and it

934
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.320
seemed like looking at all the footprints, it seemed like

935
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.960
what had freaked me out. It seemed like the adolescent

936
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.719
had jumped from fifteen feet up in the air down

937
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.239
to the river bank and landed on two feet.

938
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:29.159
And side by side.

939
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:33.320
Because the footprints I have the pictures, they're about an

940
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:38.159
inch sunk into like an inch into the river bank.

941
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.559
And at that time Matt's like, hey man, he goes,

942
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:43.559
I know this sounds crazy. He said, take off your

943
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.760
shoes and socks. I want you to kind of experience.

944
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.400
You know what I've done before, so you know on

945
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.519
my mind, I'm like, hey, Matt, Matt, you are the man.

946
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.840
Whatever you want, I take off my shoes and socks

947
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:58.639
and I put my one foot to next next to

948
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:04.159
one of the male what I would think adult footprints.

949
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:09.400
And what I realized what was so mind blowing was

950
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.159
that I could barely stand on the river bank. It

951
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.119
was at a slight slope. It was so slippery, slippery,

952
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.079
I could barely stand up. And then I couldn't make

953
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:25.360
an impression. It was like this hard clay. So I'm

954
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:29.000
looking at all the footprints at different levels of indentation,

955
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:30.320
and I'm like.

956
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:35.519
It's that that child sasquatch had to jump off the

957
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.800
fifteen high cliff and land on the river bank to

958
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:40.599
make that.

959
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:41.639
Deep of impressions.

960
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.000
Because even a couple of the adults, I think I

961
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.920
had two adults impressions. They weren't as deep as the

962
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.679
as a child, but they still were, you know, maybe

963
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.639
half inch into the soil. I've got one. Yeah, that's

964
00:55:55.679 --> 00:56:01.280
pretty deep too. So I'm like, fully, you know, my

965
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.880
mind's getting blown. So now I'm experiencing my own.

966
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:08.719
Encounters.

967
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:11.800
You know, I'm starting to its starting to really sink

968
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:16.920
into me the reality of these things. I can't stand

969
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:20.639
up on this river bank, but they can. I can't

970
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:26.119
make an indent in this hard clay bank, but yet

971
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:29.599
they're gripping there. They're standing there, and then you could

972
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.840
see where they in Matthew Sexton's episode in season two,

973
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:37.039
I call it the river Walkers because to me, they

974
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.800
had come off the soil, off like the normal force,

975
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:44.360
onto the river bank, and they had walked into the

976
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:47.360
river bank. I believe they walk up and down the

977
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:51.400
river bank. So we're camping out, we're doing this whole episode,

978
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.760
and we're filming, so we do an overnight and this

979
00:56:56.079 --> 00:57:08.079
is where I you're a sasquatch talk Now, it is

980
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:15.440
an experience like I've never had before in my life.

981
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.639
This up to this point, I'm still.

982
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:27.639
Leaning physical biological creatures. But now I've met Matthew Sexton.

983
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:33.280
We're talking about portals. We're talking about these things, zapping in,

984
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.960
zapping out. Yes, you do have the footprints that appear

985
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:40.920
out of nowhere. I've got those footprints where you've got

986
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.960
one footprint and there's none around, or it looks like

987
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:51.079
they shimmied up a tree. But when you start experiencing

988
00:57:51.199 --> 00:58:00.800
these things physically, it changes your opinion and outlook on

989
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.519
these things. You can be an armchair quarterback all you want,

990
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:09.480
and sit in your frickin lazy boy and watch YouTube

991
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:15.760
videos and have your opinion about about bigfoot all you want,

992
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:23.920
But until you experience these things, you don't really know.

993
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.679
And I try to be respectful, but you don't really

994
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:34.480
know what you're talking about. So we've got camp set

995
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:39.119
up and we've got a fire going. Matt and I

996
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:44.320
are both hard working men, you know, we're hands on,

997
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:48.239
blue collar guys. You know, Matt is a camper, he

998
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:51.000
knows what he's doing, but yet I'm still a city boy.

999
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:53.119
He's got to help me set up my tent.

1000
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.480
And so the night comes and you know, we're just

1001
00:58:57.519 --> 00:58:58.880
hanging out having a good time.

1002
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:03.280
Matt is tired, he works day shift, gets up early.

1003
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:05.440
He passes out.

1004
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:09.480
I'm on midnights, man, you know, I'm feeling pretty good,

1005
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.039
and so I'm just hanging out. He goes to bed

1006
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.800
in his tent, and I'm still hanging out by the fire.

1007
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.679
And finally I start getting a little bit tired. But

1008
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.719
I know in the back of my mind that every

1009
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:27.239
eyewitness I've been talking to in Michigan is telling me

1010
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.239
that these things come out at night. And when they

1011
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:33.760
do come out at night, it's not the latter midnight.

1012
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:39.719
And one of the I want to insert this real quick.

1013
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.480
It's not that we haven't had other sightings here in

1014
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.639
other months of the year, but let me tell you

1015
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.960
right now, July, August, and September here in Michigan, that's

1016
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:52.360
when you're going to see these things.

1017
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.280
That's when you're going to experience these things.

1018
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.599
I always think about the connection to everybody knows the

1019
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:03.000
Predator movie, the original one with Ernest Schwarzenegger, and then

1020
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:07.760
you've had the other ones. But in that movie, the

1021
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.800
young Hispanic gal, when she's explaining the Predators.

1022
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:13.159
She says something.

1023
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:20.800
He says, they always come in the hottest years. Okay,

1024
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:26.519
here in Michigan, July, August and September are the hottest months.

1025
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:31.199
So I have been kind of doing a diagram connecting

1026
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:33.719
the dots, and I'm realizing that these things, they'll come

1027
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:40.920
out till after midnight, and they're more active seemingly in July, August,

1028
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:47.039
in September, at least here in Michigan. And Matthew falls asleep,

1029
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.480
I climb in my tent and I'm laying there.

1030
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:54.840
And I'm just thinking.

1031
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.440
And honestly, I'm not thinking I'm going to experience anything,

1032
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:05.320
but in the back of my mind I know about

1033
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:09.960
the Jim Ingram encounter. Some of the things that Matthew

1034
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:13.960
has told me about this particular plan is they're a

1035
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:15.400
little bit rambunctious.

1036
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:19.559
They're gonna let you if they don't want you in

1037
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.199
their area, you're gonna get chased out, you know.

1038
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.800
So I'm laying in my tent and I'm thinking about

1039
01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:32.639
all this, and it is just like so many people say,

1040
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:37.639
all of a sudden, it's like the air changed.

1041
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:40.519
And the stillness comes.

1042
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:46.880
In, and my physical body is reacting to what I

1043
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:56.679
would call a presence, a presence of stillness, and it's

1044
01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:02.280
very quiet, and then all of a sudden, right over

1045
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:11.480
my tent, a huge smash.

1046
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.320
Like somebody had taken.

1047
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.800
A big, huge branch and smacked it over the tree,

1048
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:21.440
across the trunk that my tent was tied to. And

1049
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:29.840
immediately I'm jarred. And then I hear a couple of

1050
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:34.920
twig snap. Now I'm still inside my tent. I hear

1051
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.880
a couple of twig snap kind of what I would

1052
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.719
just easily say to the left and the right of me.

1053
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.960
So I'm getting the sense there could be two things

1054
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:51.320
out there, but it's quiet. And then, just like so

1055
01:02:51.480 --> 01:03:01.599
many people has said before, this across my tent, like

1056
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:06.639
something had run its hand across the length of my tent.

1057
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.559
And then I hear something.

1058
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.960
I have never heard, and I don't know if i'll

1059
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:18.519
I hope to hear again.

1060
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:22.360
I can't explain.

1061
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:26.880
It only in the sense that it was a sound

1062
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:32.239
that I've never heard before. It was lower in tone

1063
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:36.039
in frequency than I'd ever heard before.

1064
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.039
But I knew immediately.

1065
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:43.880
That it was a language, and it was a two

1066
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.920
It was either two words or a two syllable word.

1067
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.320
And I'll try to mimic you here, but I never

1068
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.639
do it, just but I want to get a few

1069
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.400
give you a feel for what I heard, and the

1070
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:05.079
sound was this, but so much lower.

1071
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:08.000
The frequency.

1072
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.400
All I can say is it was out of this world.

1073
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:18.719
And my chest immediately clenched up. I'm like, I'm pulling

1074
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.320
muscles in my chest, in my back and I'm clenching up.

1075
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.599
I'm laying on my side in the tent and I'm

1076
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:30.559
listening to this and so and that sound came from

1077
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.719
over by Matthews tent. But I feel like I've got

1078
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:39.719
something to the left and the right of me, and

1079
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:44.280
it's just quiet. And then all of a sudden, what

1080
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:50.800
I call this presence slowly moves away and the normal

1081
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:57.119
forest sounds come back back into play. I'm scared to death.

1082
01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:02.639
I gotta admit, you know. I have tried to prepare myself.

1083
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:04.480
One of the things I do on a daily basis

1084
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:09.199
is try to prepare myself for when I do have

1085
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:10.360
a close encounter.

1086
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:18.880
But this had changed me. The reality had changed me.

1087
01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:24.039
And in the episode, which is episode ten The River

1088
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.760
Walkers of season two, you will.

1089
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:29.400
See where I explain what happened.

1090
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.760
And the night before we had set out kind of

1091
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:37.960
on the perimeter of our camp apples. Matt had said, hey, man,

1092
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.800
these things love the big red apples and so that's

1093
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.960
what we had left out and what was so crazy

1094
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:46.119
when we came out the next morning. And part of

1095
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.360
the reason, let me get back to this, I didn't

1096
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.760
want to come out of my tongue. I didn't say this,

1097
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:54.679
you know. I was just a little bit too scared.

1098
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.920
I knew what Jim Ingram had told me about these things.

1099
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.599
I knew some of the explanation that Matthew had told me.

1100
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.639
But reassure me the hete you know, well, first of all,

1101
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:06.760
you're with me. They know me really well. They know

1102
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:11.800
my smell. So remember I said that, And they're not

1103
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.960
gonna bug it. In fact, we're probably safer than any

1104
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:16.800
spot we could be in. No bear going to come

1105
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.079
in here, no cougar gonna come in here, because this

1106
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:22.000
Sasquatch clan will take care of business.

1107
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.320
So I was too afraid to come out of my tent.

1108
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:28.239
And to this day I hate saying it, but I

1109
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.639
remember that moment when I heard what I believed to

1110
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.679
be a Sasquatch voice from the alpha male. Because when

1111
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.280
we come out next morning, we've got apples that we

1112
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:41.079
had set the night before kind of in a perimeter.

1113
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:46.719
The only apple that was taken was the apple that

1114
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.840
was at the location where I heard the voice by

1115
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:58.000
Matthew's tent, and that blew my mind. Now, later talking

1116
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:05.360
to Myerokee Indian friend Sean Pattick from Oklahoma, he's got

1117
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:10.000
a great encounter. His sasquatch looked was huge and looked

1118
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.599
it had a human face. So we'll talk about that sometime.

1119
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.199
But so when we came out the next morning.

1120
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:23.360
Only that apple is gone, and Sean had told I

1121
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:26.239
kind of explained to him what I thought I heard,

1122
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.199
and he said, well, that could have been wood dock,

1123
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:33.000
which means thank you in Cherokee.

1124
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.239
And he, you know, he's like, well, make that sasquatch.

1125
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:38.800
And this was something I was thinking. Took that apple

1126
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:43.000
and said thank you to matt Now, this is just

1127
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:47.559
me trying to connect the dots that alpha male they

1128
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:48.519
know Matthew smell.

1129
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:49.519
Because here's the thing.

1130
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:52.199
Don't just go on into the woods think you're going

1131
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.199
to find something, because you're not going to find something.

1132
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:59.400
These things are in certain areas for reasons. Number one,

1133
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:03.599
they always have to be near water. Number two, they

1134
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:08.800
are always hungry, so if they're near water, they're getting

1135
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.360
their water intakes for the day. And they're in an

1136
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.239
area where all the local prey are going to come

1137
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:19.079
in to drink water, excuse me, and so it's easy

1138
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.680
for them to pick off pray, whether it be beer

1139
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:23.720
or beavers or whatever.

1140
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:30.399
But Sean had said that if it was Wouda, I

1141
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:31.319
thought was why do.

1142
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:36.119
He said that could have been thank you in Cherokee,

1143
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.560
and that this alpha male might have been thanking Matthew

1144
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:45.319
for the apple because they knew Matthew's smell, but they

1145
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:46.720
didn't know my smell.

1146
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:49.000
So I was wondering.

1147
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:52.560
Okay, so they knew Matthew, Let's say they knew Matthew,

1148
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.119
they took the apple, said thank you to Matthew.

1149
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.079
But they didn't know me too well.

1150
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:01.960
And they were kind of intimidating me a little bit

1151
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:05.960
by crashing because they were broken branches. You know, it

1152
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.039
was near the fire, so it was hard to tell.

1153
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:12.439
They were shocking me a little bit a little bit

1154
01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:15.840
of intimidation there when they broke the branch over the

1155
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:19.560
tree where my tent was tied to the twig snaps.

1156
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:22.119
I believe they know everything they're doing, They know their

1157
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:28.479
intimidation tactics, and then they stroke my tent. But yeah,

1158
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.039
you can see all of that in that episode ten

1159
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:34.239
the River Walkers with Matthew Sexon.

1160
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:37.199
So now fast Watch is.

1161
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:43.800
Coming into my life in physical reality, and man, I

1162
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:47.159
will never I will never forget that voice I heard,

1163
01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:49.760
and I, like I said, I hope I get to

1164
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:54.600
hear that again, and I believe I will. So now

1165
01:09:54.720 --> 01:10:00.399
I've got footprints, you know, I've experienced what footprints or light?

1166
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:02.880
I've heard a voice.

1167
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:10.399
And soon after this, I get contacted by what I'm

1168
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:12.600
allowed to say. So I have an agreement with these

1169
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:19.880
Sasquatch eyewitnesses. I'm allowed to call them landowners off the

1170
01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:24.239
coast of Lake Huron up by Port Sanilac, is what

1171
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:25.359
I'm allowed to say.

1172
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:29.119
I got invited to a private location.

1173
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:34.960
By a human family, four different four different members of

1174
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:38.760
a human family that have seen what we figure to

1175
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.159
be two to four different Sasquatch.

1176
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.159
So they invite me out to their property.

1177
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:51.399
Now read it out there, and immediately my girlfriend's very intuitive.

1178
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:55.319
She believes she's seen them looking out from behind trees

1179
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:59.640
at the Aaron Spencer location. There's so much information to Jeremiah.

1180
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.560
I'm sorry, you know, it's information overload since I've been

1181
01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:06.439
doing this, but so I've got my girlfriend out there

1182
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:11.520
with the landowners, and we get to this spot and

1183
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:14.800
it is an amazing spot.

1184
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:16.279
There's everything there.

1185
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.960
There's water, there's fresh water springs, there's every type of

1186
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.199
animal from here in Michigan. There are fruit and nut

1187
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:28.039
trees out here, and I gotta be I have to

1188
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:31.119
be vague about it. So anyways, we get out there

1189
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:39.520
and we hear grunts. This is episode eleven, so our

1190
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:42.560
season finaleous season two. I've skipped over a bunch of

1191
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:47.399
the other ones, and there's so many other encounters in

1192
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:49.159
the Thumb of Michigan. I can't even.

1193
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:49.760
List them all.

1194
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.600
And some of those I've gotten some of the episodes Dianne, Sweet, Angie, Elizabeth,

1195
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:58.920
Jerry Lenz, all of that, but it all plays into

1196
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:03.000
this kind of the sea is a finale, and they

1197
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:07.439
get to this location and yeah, we've got evidence of footprints.

1198
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:16.119
There are these huts type structures. Really cool is we're

1199
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:20.720
finding branches stacked like pouring down from trees. There's no

1200
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:24.720
cut marks, and they're stacked in these piles. And then

1201
01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:27.399
you'd come back the next day and there'd be a

1202
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.680
new hut and that stack of branches is gone.

1203
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.079
So in episode ten.

1204
01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:34.199
I've got a couple of pictures of those what I

1205
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:37.960
call huts. They're like these bushes, but they're hollowed out.

1206
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:42.600
And this one particular area on this private landowner's location

1207
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:47.399
almost look like a living like a house where you

1208
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:52.000
could see each sassquatch had its own little area, you know,

1209
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.520
like my family walk into my house. Everybody's got their

1210
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:57.640
own space, their own bedroom, you know, their own corner

1211
01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:58.159
of the house.

1212
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:00.000
And that's what this area looks like.

1213
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:05.399
So how this all started out by Lake Huron par

1214
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:07.640
in Michigan, which is actually just.

1215
01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:08.560
A half hour from me.

1216
01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:15.760
I love it. It all started the landowner was raising

1217
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.119
meat rabbits and they threw the pulse and the ergs

1218
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:23.239
that they weren't using all these meat rabbits into a

1219
01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:29.039
big pile. The next thing they know, they start seeing

1220
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:34.479
sasquatch walking around. And this is explained more in the episode.

1221
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:41.760
And one of the first encountered landowners and it's kind

1222
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:43.880
of in a very wooded area. I call it the

1223
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.520
watchers from among the trees because these things are always

1224
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:52.479
watching you. The landowner is cutting a path with the

1225
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:55.039
mower that we'd whacked their trying to do new paths

1226
01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:59.119
through all the property and gets back out there and

1227
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.399
realizes that that where they're throwing all these rabbit pelts

1228
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.479
and enters that the pile's.

1229
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:08.279
Gone, and it's kind of curious.

1230
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:10.520
And then I don't know if it's that day or

1231
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:14.680
the next day, catches the landowners back there doing more

1232
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.479
field work, and catches something catches this landowner out of

1233
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:24.119
the corner of their eye, and there's a sasquatch eight

1234
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:29.439
to nine footer lives a dark brown one. I'm standing there,

1235
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:33.760
but it's a little bit squatted and looking at the landowner.

1236
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:38.640
And the landowner didn't necessarily believe in bigfoot before this,

1237
01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:41.760
but it's like, holy crap. And so this bigfoot is

1238
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.119
not too far from the rabbit pile, and this is

1239
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:45.920
an important aspect.

1240
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.840
And it's showing itself and they start hearing more.

1241
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:53.680
Now I've also heard audio from this property and it

1242
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.640
is very reminiscent if you were to take the Sierra

1243
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:02.960
Sounds and then Sasquatch Ontario. I believe the guy's name

1244
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:06.039
is Mike who runs that, and the bigfoot that's talking

1245
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:07.319
there is Nef.

1246
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:09.119
So if you were to.

1247
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:13.159
Pick the vocal of Nef talking, singing, I believe NEF

1248
01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:17.039
is and then mix that with these Sierra sounds. This

1249
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:21.079
is the audio that I've heard from the landowners. Now

1250
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:25.000
I'm allowed to see this. The landowner works in a

1251
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:32.000
government position and does not want their identity revealed because

1252
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:36.279
of the backlash and the concern for their position in

1253
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:39.119
the government. So that's what I'm allowed to say it.

1254
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.239
And that's why they don't want their location given out.

1255
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.520
They don't want the audio given out. But I've heard

1256
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.720
the audio, and it's very reminiscent. If you were to connect,

1257
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:52.159
you know, just combined nef and the Sierra sounds, that's

1258
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:54.760
what you get. And we'll so neat about this audio

1259
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:59.560
that I heard is you can hear the bigfoot talk

1260
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.800
in the one another. There's two or three of them, right,

1261
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:09.119
and then the landowner starts chiming in and is mocking them,

1262
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:14.119
and the sasquatch respond to that the first time, and

1263
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.800
then it kind of works, and then the landowner does

1264
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:22.960
it again, and the sasquatch recognize that the landowner is

1265
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.560
not one of them because they're like they started. So

1266
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:29.720
the landowner like there's a howl or a grunt, and

1267
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:33.079
then you get a response and then the landowner does

1268
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.920
it again, and there's like a quiet pause and then

1269
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:42.359
the Sasquatch are like, I'm like, they're yelling at the landowner.

1270
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:46.119
That was freaky. I've heard Dan on the audio. So

1271
01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:50.960
I'm out there, my girlfriend's here at grunts. We're seeing

1272
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:55.119
all the physical aspects. We've got footprints, we've got you know,

1273
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:59.439
this is a bigfoot paradise. It's in a depression, so

1274
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:03.119
they're also able to keep cool from the summertime. There's

1275
01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:06.000
a canopy now over what I called their house or

1276
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:09.359
their you know, living quarters, there's a canopy as well.

1277
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.119
Worked so underneath this canopy from the sun because these

1278
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:17.560
things love the more darker areas of course where they

1279
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:21.560
have their little hot so this is a perfect area

1280
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:28.279
of what I can see. So I do an overnight

1281
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:35.319
and once again the land the landowner passes out, kind

1282
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:38.199
of like magic sex that you know, get about one

1283
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:41.159
two o'clock and they just can't hang in there and

1284
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:44.479
they pass out. So I'm up because I'm used to

1285
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:46.760
being up all night, and now I'm laying there and I

1286
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.680
got a picture of me laying there. I took it

1287
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:55.159
on purpose, and I hear a big splash in the pond,

1288
01:17:55.359 --> 01:18:01.079
which is a fresh water pond nearby. There's no in

1289
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:04.920
feed to it, there's just an outfeed. So I'm like, okay,

1290
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:09.079
there's another aspect these ancient fresh water ponds.

1291
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:11.560
I hear huge splash.

1292
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:14.880
It's not like, you know, you hear the geese land

1293
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:18.399
and the ducks come in, but this is a very

1294
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:23.159
heavy splash. So recently, i'd just gotten a thermal imager

1295
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:26.039
and I pulled that out, and you know, I'm trying

1296
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:26.439
to use it.

1297
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:30.039
So let's say the pond is twelve o'clock. And then

1298
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:33.600
so I'm looking at the pond and I don't see anything.

1299
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:36.760
I'd come out from my tent, got the thermo working,

1300
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:40.399
and I'm looking to my right. You know, I think

1301
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:43.079
I'd taken a fist or whatever, and I'm just starting

1302
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:44.039
to play with the thermal.

1303
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:47.000
I'm at this point I'm like, man, that was pretty big.

1304
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:48.279
That could be a sasquatch.

1305
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:51.680
And so the ponds at twelve o'clock, let's say, and

1306
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:54.199
I'm looking at one or two o'clock and I got

1307
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:55.520
a heat signature.

1308
01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:56.520
So I'm like, ooh, what's this.

1309
01:18:57.159 --> 01:19:01.239
So I started focusing in and man, it's two or

1310
01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:05.880
three deer and so I'm panning back between the pond

1311
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:09.039
and one or two o'clock and just getting my focus in,

1312
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:11.920
trying to learn how this, how to use this thermal better.

1313
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:17.359
And I finally focus in and I'm like, okay, this

1314
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:22.840
is clearly a deer, at least two deer, maybe three.

1315
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:28.399
And then I pan back at the pond and there's

1316
01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:29.119
nothing there.

1317
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:32.039
But then in my mind, I'm like, well, I haven't

1318
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:35.199
done like to my left. I've been looking straight ahead

1319
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:37.680
and to my right a little bit. I'ven't done to

1320
01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:44.479
my left, and I pan to the left. Now, this

1321
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:49.239
thermal video is very quick, and it's in our episode

1322
01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:53.239
eleven of season two, called The Watchers among the Trees.

1323
01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:56.159
So I pan.

1324
01:19:56.159 --> 01:20:01.479
To the left, and as I was gonna say, I

1325
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:06.760
don't show the first part of the video, but I'll

1326
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:10.800
describe it because I didn't know what it was at

1327
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.600
the time. I didn't understand it. You know, I've got

1328
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.199
I've got deer to my right. I knew what deer

1329
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:25.319
looked like in the thermo, but there's something big, kind

1330
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:26.359
of crawling.

1331
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:31.119
And like what is that? You know? I'm like, what

1332
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:31.840
is this thing?

1333
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:39.119
And it goes behind this kind of like a bigger

1334
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:42.039
bush you know here, I'm not sure. I got to

1335
01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:44.000
get out to the property again and look at this

1336
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.359
particular bush. I'm been invited to come out as many

1337
01:20:47.399 --> 01:20:49.520
times as I want, so I'm gonna.

1338
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:50.680
Get out there. I don't know if it's a huge

1339
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:52.720
lilac bush or what kind of plant. You know. I'm

1340
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:54.439
a city boy. I don't know what these things are.

1341
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.199
So this thing to the right, I can see if

1342
01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:03.039
it's back and it's obscured, and it looks like it's krawn.

1343
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:07.680
But then it disappears behind this big bush, pre bush,

1344
01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:08.960
whatever you want to call it.

1345
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.960
But then it comes out to the other side and

1346
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:20.520
it's huge, and I'm now I'm like, oh my gosh,

1347
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:25.640
what the heck is this thing? This thing comes out behind,

1348
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:28.720
takes two.

1349
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:33.520
Or three steps, I think it's two, and then immediately

1350
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:37.920
turns around and goes back behind this thing like it

1351
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:42.319
knew it could hide behind it, and disappears.

1352
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:48.399
Clearly it's walking bipedally.

1353
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:53.640
We measured that the next morning was eight to nine

1354
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:58.640
feet tall. To this day, I don't know exactly, but

1355
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:04.319
the only thing I figure out is that thing was

1356
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:05.399
I don't want to.

1357
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:09.520
Say, sneaking up behind me. But it was getting a

1358
01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:11.520
better vantage point because.

1359
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.680
Remember I'm focusing at the pond at twelve o'clock. I'm

1360
01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:17.439
looking to my right constantly at the deer, back and

1361
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.279
forth to beyond the deer, the byond, the deer. And

1362
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:27.800
then this thing was working its way behind me, maybe

1363
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.680
on all fours, I hear, and the more you hear,

1364
01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.760
they're on all fours just as much, or you know,

1365
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:38.039
maybe not as much as they are Bipeally, I think

1366
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:40.279
this thing worked its way around and this is just

1367
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:45.239
me guessing. And then when it thought it got to

1368
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:49.640
a place where it was hidden, it stood up and

1369
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.840
then was going to continue working its way behind me

1370
01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:57.720
to get a better look at me. And then when

1371
01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:01.039
it saw me came out from behind me the tree bush.

1372
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:05.119
It realized that I was watching it. Now here's I

1373
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:07.680
don't like to call myself an idiot, but here's one

1374
01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:12.960
time where I was an idiot. It came out and

1375
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:17.159
turns back around and goes back and disappears, and I'm

1376
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.239
like why, well why, So I'm a little bit thinking

1377
01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:20.479
to myself, why did you do that?

1378
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.640
Why do you turn around? Why do you turn around? Well,

1379
01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:25.960
like an idiot, I had my stinking headlamp on.

1380
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:29.760
I got on the tent, I'd taken a fiss, I

1381
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:32.239
got my head lamp on. I'm looking at the thermo,

1382
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.319
you know, setting up the thermo, and I forgot to

1383
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:39.399
turn off my headlamp, so this thing could see me

1384
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:42.840
a whole freaking time. So think about it that. Hey,

1385
01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:45.880
maybe it wasn't the pond. It was there cooling off whatever,

1386
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.479
getting this water source. It had seen me and started

1387
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:52.000
working its way around from say twelve o'clock to nine

1388
01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:54.880
o'clock while I'm still looking at the deer to my right,

1389
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.640
and then I'm looking over there so we.

1390
01:23:57.640 --> 01:23:58.159
Can see me.

1391
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:00.119
You can see my headlamp, and so it's working this

1392
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:02.800
way behind me. It comes out from behind this tree

1393
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:06.199
bush and realizes because my head lamp's looking right at him,

1394
01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:08.920
and I'm standing over my thermal, and this thing's like,

1395
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:13.319
what's the daisy and turns back around and goes off

1396
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:17.760
into whatever never never land. And so anyways, we got

1397
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:21.399
out there. We measured it to eight to nine feet tall,

1398
01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:25.720
according next to the tree branch where it was standing,

1399
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:30.199
and there was like a path through the dew and

1400
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.119
in the morning hours.

1401
01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:34.079
So that happens.

1402
01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:37.479
And so now I'm kind of for me, I want

1403
01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.119
to see a sasquatch, you know, I want a Matthew

1404
01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:44.720
Sexton encounter where that fanks ten feet in front of me.

1405
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:49.039
You can see the thermal imaging. Yes, it's it's blurry

1406
01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:51.479
all that kind of stuff because I'm focusing trying to

1407
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.079
get it in. But I'm confident that that was a

1408
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:58.039
big foot that came out, and so yeah, so that's cool.

1409
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:01.399
So then that will go on a little bit. So

1410
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:06.159
that day I'm leaving and in where the spot was

1411
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:08.880
where all the rabbit house and the inners were that

1412
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:14.560
the bigfoot had taken before I left, a big polyo

1413
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:19.560
carrots and in other locations. Well, so I leave there

1414
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.840
and the landowner had gone back out the day after

1415
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.960
and got a bunch of pictures and a video, and you'll.

1416
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:30.279
See this in the episode.

1417
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:35.279
The day after I'm there, I see the thing on

1418
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:35.880
the thermal.

1419
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.399
I got a polo carrots there.

1420
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.680
The day after, the landowner gets a video of a

1421
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:46.920
sasquatch slamming like a branch down. Now this one is

1422
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:50.479
an authentic tree neck where it's very small, but you

1423
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:53.159
can see it in the episode where this sasquatch is

1424
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:57.279
slamming down a tree branch, and then the landowner's got

1425
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:02.079
a picture of the sasquatch ending there watching the landowner

1426
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:03.800
from kind of the trees.

1427
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:09.359
So what I had put together, it's all about food.

1428
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.039
After the rabbit energs and the Bigfoot had eating them,

1429
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:16.039
the Bigfoot show themselves as if to say, hey, we

1430
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:18.960
would like some more food. All those rabbit enters and

1431
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:21.600
pelts are gone, and then I leave the carrots and

1432
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.239
they show themselves again, and all the carrots are gone,

1433
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.840
and they're like, hey, you know you got anything more?

1434
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.880
So this sasquatch plan. You feed them and then they're

1435
01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:34.920
going to show themselves. But with that said, we got

1436
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:37.680
to be careful about that because I've also heard of

1437
01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:43.159
the stories of the Sasquatch becoming too dependent on gifting

1438
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:48.560
and that sort of thing. Yeah, so that was the

1439
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:54.199
last episode of season two, and now we are off

1440
01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:55.159
to the races.

1441
01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:01.880
Let's touch on the inner dimensional side real quick. Oh

1442
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:04.880
my goodness, go ahead, but I know I'm overload, you man.

1443
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:08.720
So this is this is going to be the episode

1444
01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:12.479
where if anyone ever asks me, what what is the

1445
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:17.199
journey that one takes and what can happen? This is

1446
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:20.439
what people are to expect. It's an incredible case study.

1447
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:26.000
I mean, your story is amazing. I'm honestly going to

1448
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:29.279
have to ask you if if you would be cool

1449
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:31.600
with coming on for a second time, because I have

1450
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:36.119
like questions about Michigan to ask you as well. But

1451
01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:38.720
I've just been letting you share your story, which is incredible,

1452
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:44.479
and it sounds like we're just getting into like the Okay,

1453
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:46.840
I knew it was coming. I was like, I knew

1454
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:51.359
it was coming. Listeners are like, oh, what are you doing, dude?

1455
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:54.920
Would you be I think, I mean we may have

1456
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.439
to do a cliffhanger on this one. Would you be

1457
01:27:57.520 --> 01:27:59.920
okay with coming back on for a second time?

1458
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:01.319
Oh?

1459
01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:03.119
Yeah, let's do it because I got to tell you

1460
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:06.600
about the fairy experience and all the inter dimensional qualities

1461
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:09.720
of sasquatching. Everything is going on in here in Michigan.

1462
01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:12.239
There's an explosion going on in here in Michigan. But

1463
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:13.359
of course I would love it.

1464
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:17.760
Thank you, oh man, and your your story is just

1465
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:22.199
so incredible. It has parallels with my own. But but

1466
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.840
out in Oregon when I've been out there and it's

1467
01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:30.439
just man, I would say, guys, if you're not already

1468
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:33.920
checking out the Bigfoot of America YouTube channel. You need

1469
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:37.680
to go over there right away, subscribe to it, check

1470
01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:40.479
out all the videos, watch them. There's a few people

1471
01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:42.880
that are over there. I've noticed that I've gotten to

1472
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:45.279
talk to you too, so you'll be able to actually

1473
01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:48.199
see them see a different viewpoint of their story, and

1474
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:52.560
that is very cool. But yeah, Brian, I can't wait

1475
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:55.159
to have you back on again so we can we

1476
01:28:55.199 --> 01:29:01.239
can dig a little deeper into what happened after the

1477
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.159
other side of Sasquatch started to come into play, which

1478
01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.359
it always does, it always does.

1479
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:09.000
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. It's an honor, man, thank

1480
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.279
you for having me on your show. It's an honor.

1481
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:15.840
You're one of the pioneers, and we the general Sasquatch

1482
01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:22.319
population lovers of Bigfoot, we disrespect you and honor everything

1483
01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:23.000
you've been doing.

1484
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:27.159
Brian will be back on Bigfoot Society soon for part

1485
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:32.439
two to continue his accounts with Bigfoot in Michigan. Just

1486
01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:34.159
wanted to take a minute to say thank you for

1487
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.800
listening to this episode of the big Foot Society podcast.

1488
01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:39.760
Brian's story is one of those encounters that stays with you,

1489
01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:42.079
not just because of the terrifying moments he shared, but

1490
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:44.800
because of how they shifted his understanding of what might

1491
01:29:44.840 --> 01:29:48.479
be lurking just beyond our reach. So huge thanks to

1492
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:50.359
Brian for coming on the show and giving us an

1493
01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:53.880
inside look at the hidden world of Michigan's Bigfoot. If

1494
01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:56.520
you enjoyed this conversation, please subscribe to us on YouTube,

1495
01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:59.039
hit the bell icon so you don't miss any new episodes,

1496
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:01.319
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1497
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:05.640
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1498
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:08.800
Podcasts or Spotify, be sure to follow the show and

1499
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:11.199
if you'd leave a review, it really helps others find

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01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:14.119
us now. If you or someone you know has had

1501
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:17.079
a big Foot encounter, especially in Michigan, the Black River area,

1502
01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:20.119
Midden City, Swamp, or even Traverse City, I'd love to

1503
01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:22.079
hear from you, so please shoot me an email at

1504
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:26.439
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's talk. Also,

1505
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.279
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1506
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1510
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Thanks again for being part of the Bigfoot Society. Until

1511
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:49.000
next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and

1512
01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.319
never stop asking what else might be out there, And

1513
01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:52.439
see you in the woods.