The Cabin Creature of Sevierville, Tennessee

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Thanks for listening to Bigfoot Society.
In this episode, I talked to Don

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about how a knight at a cabin
in the Tennessee Woods turned into a series

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of events that would haunt him to
today. If you've experienced something similar to

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what Don has, please reach out
immediately after this episode. Remember your encounter

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could be the key to unlocking this
mystery once and for all. Please reach

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out to me today using the email
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. All

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right, big for Society. I've
got the privilege of talking to Don.

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He reached out to me from Eastern
Tennessee about some interesting things he experienced a

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few years back. Don, how's
it going today? Ah, it sounds

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sounds good, Deremi, And everything's
going great, man, Today's it's been

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a field day. I've been relaxing
and getting things done around the house.

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That's great. I remember when you
reached out to me, and it's a

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very interesting story. All right,
man, do I have the floor?

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Yes, sir? All right,
it sounds good man. Okay, Like

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Jeremiah was saying, my name is
done. I've been living in East Tennessee

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for the past two going on three
years now, and not the last year

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of twenty three. This was twenty
twenty two. In November, I decided

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to rent a cabin and go spend
some time with my fiund say, for

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her birthday in the mountains. And
exactly where we were is about two and

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a half, no, about two
hours north of us, and we were

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in the Gatlinburg, Severville and Pigeon
Forge area. And for anyone who is

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familiar with this area, it's three
different cities, but they're literally ten minutes

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apart from each other. So that's
where everything started and that where we had

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our first experience. So just to
get started, man the day of that

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we had the cabin, we decided
to go ahead and head down and get

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there while it was still daylight because
like I said, this was in November.

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Actually it was November. It was
the first. Okay, it was

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November the first, but it was
in celebration of her birthday for the seventh,

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and I'm pretty sure the seventh was
like just it wasn't a weekend where

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we were gonna have time anyway.
So we head up to the cabins and

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everything, and it was just me
and my fiance who went out first,

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her brother and his girlfriend. They
came out a little bit later. So

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what ended up happening is we got
there at a pretty decent time. It

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was still daylight, and after we
got comfortable with the cabin, we wanted

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to go and grab a bite to
eat. So we drove about twelve minutes

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up the road to Gatlinburg. Right
Gatlinburg, yep. So we went to

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Gatlinburg, sat down at a nice
Mexican restaurant. About nine o'clock, we

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headed back to the cabin. It
was dark, not pitch black, but

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it was pretty dark. Like I
said, we were up in the cabin

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area. We're just in there hanging
out or whatever, just trying to stay

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up, and we're just checking out
things and seeing how things are going.

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So we decided to go to the
back on the back deck, there was

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a deck overlooking a valley and you
can see for miles man a long ways.

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We went out, decided to go
and get in the hot tub,

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just killing and things like that.
We did have wine, but this is

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when things got weird. Okay,
So we're sitting out in the hot tub.

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Had to be about ten minutes at
the most. We're just out there

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hanging out and enjoying the time being
spent together and next thing, man,

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just out of the blue, my
fiance she just lost control of herself.

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And what I mean by that,
for a lack of better term, she

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almost fainted. So what happened is
I just went right away and I grabbed

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her and I'm like, what's wrong, and she's like, I'm lightheaded.

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I need to lay down. So
I helped her out of the hot tub.

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I go take her to the room. I'm just gonna lay down now.

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Like I said, we had wine, but we had never even drunk

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it. It was still actually defrosting
on this little table area which is on

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the back deck, and there's two
rocking chairs back there. Also, I

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get her in the house and everything
and all the way up until this point

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meant nothing happening. Like I said, h got her in the house.

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In the cabin, she laid down
or whatever. So I said, hey,

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babe, I'm gonna go and get
this line and put it back in

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the freezer for later. She's okay
now, Jeremiah, I didn't mention this

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part, but earlier when we got
to the cabin, when we first got

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there, we did see a black
bear. Now, looking off the deck,

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if you look to the right,
there's the hot tub on the deck.

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Actually, if you look off over
the deck to the right, there's

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a cabin there, but the cabin
was unfinished. You could tell that it

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was being renovated or it was probably
new getting finished. Now, if you

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look to the left, we had
one neighbor who was right there and we

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never really even saw them. But
back to the initial part. When I

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walked to the back door, there's
a double door like the I don't know

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what they call it, but it's
the big door, the wooden door with

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the big glass, like the five
foot glass or whatever, and it's a

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double door. So I walked to
the door and I opened the back door.

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When I opened the door, I
stepped one foot on the balcony and

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man, I heard the largest when
I say largest of the largest footsteps I've

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ever heard in my life. And
what was crazy is logically, because I'm

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a logical think of first and like
I told you earlier, I've always known

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about sasquatch and things like that,
But that was the furthest thing from my

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mind. Like I said, I
stepped one foot out and I hear some

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big footsteps. And what happened is
whatever it was to this day. I

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don't like to just say bigfoot,
but man, trust me, I know

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exactly what it was. Those footsteps
ran from under this deck. Now,

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this deck is about twelve to fifteen
feet off of the ground, but since

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it's on the I guess the elevated
area. The right side of the cabin

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is like ground level to the deck, but the left side of the cabin

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is like I said, that distance
of about twelve to fifteen feet. So

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I paused in my foot I paused
in my tracks when I heard those footsteps.

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Now, keep in mind, we
saw a bar earlier that day and

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we saw it come up the valley
and go over there to that abandoned cabin

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area, and it was just fundling
around, man, maybe for about fifteen

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minutes. We just literally just saw
it. We never heard that bear taking

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its steps, So that had already
went out of my mind. And what

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was more even crazier about the situation, whatever it was it took, it

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ran from under that deck and it
stopped in some tall weeds. If I'm

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looking off the back of the deck
down into that valley, if it was

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a regular person, you couldn't walk
no more than twenty feet without literally sliding

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down that valley, and for a
person to actually get up that valley,

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you would definitely need climbing gear,
cleaps in the something that will support your

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weight, because man, it's just
folly. It's leaves and trees. And

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later on, man, I would
definitely see you the pictures and the views

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and things like that. And another
thing I didn't tell you is we actually

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caught something on camera, and Jeremiah, when you see these pictures, man,

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you're gonna be freaked out. And
what I did was I did a

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lot of comparison of that picture that
I did capture to a lot of not

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tired standing. Man. It's the
other guy. He just recently passed.

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I can't think of his name right
now, but he's also from East Tennessee.

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But anyway, so what was the
craziest part about this is whatever that

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was ran from under there and it
stopped cold dead in his tracks. So

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I'm frozen, man, because the
footsteps. It just freaked me out.

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So I closed the door. I
didn't even grab the wine. I closed

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the door. I was like,
hey, I need you to come hear

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this. Something just ran from under
the deck. So she's what do you

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mean? I said, Babe,
I just saw I just heard some loud

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footsteps. Something just ran from under
this deck. And so after that or

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whatever, like I said, whatever
it was, it stopped. So I

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get her. I gathered her.
She felt she was feeling better at the

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time, so I said, just
come sit out here. Now. We

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had this led disco ball light and
we had it plugged up and it's actually

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a Bluetooth speaker and these lights.
Man, I'm pretty sure you could see

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these lights for a good distance.
I'm pretty sure this was the root cause

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of all of this encounter of what
happened. So back to the part.

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So I gathered her. I said, look, we're gonna go out here

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and sit down. I want you
to be real quiet and just tell me

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what you hear. Unknowingly to me, whatever it was had got back under

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the dick from the time I went
in the house to get her, because

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like I said, I never stepped
fully on the deck. I only put

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one foot out there, and it
ran from under there. So, like

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I said, onto the next part, we're sitting out there and we're just

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hearing like footsteps, We're just hearing
footsteps. And after that part, just

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a distance away, because like I
said, you can see a different mountain

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piece and everything. Further in the
distance, you can hear something. It

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sounded like someone yelling, but it
didn't sound normal, if that makes sense.

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She's sitting out there on my lap, she said. We're both sitting

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in one of the rocking chairs.
We sat. We actually sat in a

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rocking chair close to the door.
At this point, I unplugged the lights

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because I was freaked out. I
unplugged the lights, not even thinking that

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the lights was the cause. At
this point, I just unplugged the lights

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and went back there and sat down. So we turned off the porch light

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also. So she's sitting there and
she steady hearing something under us moving and

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she was like, Bay, I'm
scared. I'm about to go in the

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house. So she was like,
I got to go use the restroom.

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So she went in the house and
she used the restroom. So I call

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her brother and around this time,
man, this is like around ten thirty

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eleven o'clock. So I call her. I'm like, hey, Jay,

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where you guys. They're like,
man, we're in Knoxville now, We're

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probably like another hour and a half
away. I was like, man,

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listen, I don't know what this
is bro, but I just heard something

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big run from under this deck.
So him and his girlfriend I had just

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moved here, so she her excuse
was, you're not from here. It's

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probably just bears and you just so
you're not comfortable with the mountains yet.

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I was like, okay, I
know how a bear sound. We saw

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a bar earlier. The barrett was
at least three hundred pounds somewhere in there.

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I'm not really good with weights.
I'm gonna say three hundred some pounds.

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We couldn't even hear this bear when
it was walking. And we watched

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this bear for about fifteen minutes.
Toldal I'm on the call. I like,

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listen, man, y'all just let
us know. When y'all close,

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we can be up and getting around, hung up with them or whatever.

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I go back in the house.
My girl, I'm like, baby,

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you're coming back out. She was
like, all, I'm okay. So

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I was like, you know what, forget it. Let's just try to

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lay down or whatever and relax until
your brother gets here. We go in

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the house and we fall asleep.
I think he called us like around what

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almost two o'clock, and he was
like, hey, man, I'm headed

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there. I turned off the main
script. I'm coming up the mountains now.

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I was like, okay, tell
me what you see now. At

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this point, I got back up. I plugged the lights, the LED

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light back up, but the back
porch area where the deck is, that

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light stayed off. I never turned
that light back on, So those lights

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are just being and just being in
the LED lights. He's coming up the

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mountain and they're like hey, him
and his girlfriend. They're like, man,

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we keep we're seeing these lights,
bro. And I was like,

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what kind of lights. He was
like, they're colorful. I was like,

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okay, man, that's the other
speaker. That's the Bluetooth speaker.

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He was like, for real.
I was like yeah, he said,

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bro, we got to be close, y'all. But he drove at least

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another seven minutes, seven and ten
minutes to actually get up there, and

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he was like, man, I
saw those lights when we first started actually

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coming up, and I was like, man, that's weird because I didn't

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think that you could see it from
that far. So him and his girlfriend

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get there at this time, it's
a little after two. The cabin had

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it was I don't know the name
of this game. I guess it's called

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shuffle board, and then they had
a lot of little board games. We

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brought out the wine drink. I'm
not a big drinker. I never been

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was to celebration. So we're celebrating. So they come, we're all hanging

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out or whatever. We're just out
there chilling. So I said, look,

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y'all, I want y'all to come
on this deck with me and tell

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me what you guys here. They're
like, okay, his girlfriends still out

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man, I told you bears this, that and the thing. I was

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like, okay, cool, fine, let's just go sit out here.

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I said, look, we're all
gonna go out here. I want everybody

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to be quiet. Now. My
brother in law, his girlfriend she smoked

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cigarettes, so she was standing out
there smoking a cigarette and everything. We're

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just all standing out there, just
chilling. I said, listen, every

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body, just get real quiet.
Let's try not to talk to each other.

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But we still were whispering to each
other whatever it was. At the

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time. You could hear something moving
slightly through the freaking on whatever it's not.

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But they're not bushes. They're like
tall weeds and grass, so you

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could hear something like sneaking through,
just moving around, and so what ended

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up happening is I didn't see this, but my brother in law, he

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said. And the reason I didn't
see this is because every time I heard

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a noise from a different area,
I was looking in the area, just

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pointing. Y'all hear that, y'all
hear that. All of a sudden,

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they break off and running the house
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why the heck are y'all running that? What are y'all doing? He was

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like, man, I saw something
rising up right there in those tall grass.

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He said. I saw like half
of a head or something, and

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it was rising up. He said. I ran, I said, bro,

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are y'all serious or are y'all playing? He's bro. I swear I

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am not lying. I saw something. He said. He saw the head

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in like the shoulder area. So
I'm like, for you, so,

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let's say the bottom of the deck
is ten feet give or take two or

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three feet. For him to be
able to see something down there, it

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would have had to at least been
egging and half feet tall. You see

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what I'm saying. Because the distance, because we actually walked back there when

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we initially got there while there was
still a daytime just to see how everything

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was in my head. Even if
I reached my arm up, man,

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I was nowhere near the bottom of
that deck, So that right there it

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freaked me out. We all in
the house and we're talking about we're talking

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about it. At this point,
his girlfriend is like, what the was

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that? What was that? Like, I said, I think everyone saw

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it but me. But the reason
I didn't see it is because when we

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were out there, sitting out there
being quiet, we just different areas,

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like from the right where an abandoned
cabin got abandoned, the empty cabin was.

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We were hearing noises over there.
We were hearing noises to my left,

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over there where we did have neighbors
and there cabin, and also we

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were hearing noises coming from out of
that deep valley. Everybody come down and

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I said, y'all, let's go
back out here. I was like,

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let's not make a lot of racket
and stuff because there's something out here.

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So this time, when we all
go back out there, my brother in

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law's girlfriend said, hey, you
guys want me to record to see if

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we can catch anything. I was
like, okay, cool. But what

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she did she didn't record. She
did an audio recorder, so she went

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back out there. She was finishing
her cigarette that she had put out before

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they ran. Before we all ran, I walked in because I didn't see

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what they initially saw, so they
ran in. So she fired back up

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her cigarette, she said, her
phone on the top of the deck,

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and he just turned the speaker towards
where we were hearing these sounds. Now,

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Jeremiah, this right here freaked me
out, and it freaked everybody out.

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To the right, you're hearing,
to the left, same thing.

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Straight ahead, you're hearing all this. It had to be at least I'm

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thinking three or more I heard.
We all heard a freaking branch, not

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a stick, possibly a log man, it's cracked. And when I tell

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you, Jeremiah, everything just see
all that noise we was hearing. Everything

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ceased, and it was so crazy
because I called to their attention. I

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said, listen, I'm not the
smartest person in the world, and I'm

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not even just that avid of a
person in the woods. But no animal,

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wolves, bears, coyotes, whatever, if they break something while they're

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walking, like if they step on
something, they're not going to stop.

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And what was crazy whatever that was
when it stepped on that. We actually

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have this on recording. We haven't
enhanced it or anything. It's just on

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recording. That freaking stick just not
stick the law whatever. Man branch it

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cracked so loud like someone something either
broke it or stepped on it. I'm

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thinking something stepped on it, because
when it did that, like I said,

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every all of the other motions around
us it stopped. So we're all

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looking at each other. Did you
hear that? Did you that? And

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we're like yeah, We're like yeah, So at that point I think we

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did we go back in. At
that point, yeah, we everybody,

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we all went back in the house. They was like, man, this

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is too freaky for me. This
is too creepy. So the night goes

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on, we forget about it.
We're playing shuffle boards, just hanging out,

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having fun, listening to music.
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this is a little bit after three. At that point, we decided to

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go ahead and lay down because you
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already betten up waiting on them and
took a little nap, so we decided

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to lay down. So in the
room laying down, you know, I'm

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sorry I skipped apart before that while
we were all in there playing the game

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and everything, like in the living
room area. My fiance went to the

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bathroom. Now, there's two rooms
in this cabin. On the side that's

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elevated off the ground, real high. That's the side of the cabin.

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Me and my fiance slept on.
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that if you're at their window,
you're right their ground level, Like you

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can walk over there and you can
be right there at the window like a

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regular level house. I told you
that specifically because of this point. So

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my fiance was in our bathroom.
Now our bathroom, if you walk out

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of our room and go toward the
kitchen area, you're looking at the front

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deck. That front deck is connected
to the bathroom. You see what I'm

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trying to see? What I'm the
picture I'm trying to convey. So she

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came out, she was like,
did you were you guys tapping on the

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walls? And we were like what. She was like, I just heard

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something tapped on the wall. Was
it the wall of the window, the

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wall? Okay, she said it
was the wall. So she said something

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that was tapping. We blew that
off. We weren't even thinking about it.

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Later on in the night when we
decided to lay down in everything,

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we dozed off. Man, I'm
in a dead sleep, Jeremia, I'm

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in a dead sleep, man,
And I swear to you I heard this

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freakish tap now I want. I'm
trying to paint this picture for you on

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the side of our cabin where we
were sleeping. The bed is made of

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pure wood. I don't know what
kind of wood, but it's literally was

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made of pure wood. The cabin
is a pure wooden cabin. Now what

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happened is I heard a freaking tap
right above my head. Now the only

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thing on that side of the whole
cabin is the ACU, the outside ac

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unit, and Jeremiah, just for
just for me to paint the picture.

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The only way a person could get
up there and tap where I heard that

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tap above my head in that bed
you would probably need one of those real

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big ladders, And to be honest, I don't even think that you could

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do that with that. My point
is I heard something tap. Now do

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you know how hard something have to
tap for me to hear it through this

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wooden cabin in the wooden bit like
I felt the taps on the headboard of

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the dead. So the tap was
like tap, and I woke up out

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of my sleep. So I'm like, baby, did you around this time?

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It's about four in the morning.
I'm like, babe, did you

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hear that? She was like here
what I was like, Okay, don't

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worry about it. So my logical
mind is thinking, this is a new

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place. I've never been here before. It could be something on the roof,

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something following on the roof or whatever. Man, Jeremiah, this exact

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same cadence again. After I dozed
off. It was like three minutes later.

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When you know how, you wake
up and you almost back in their

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sleep, tap tap right above my
head again. Bro, I lost these

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earbody, And when I woke up
the first time, I forgot to mention

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this when I woke up. Man, as a child, when you wake

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up in the middle of the night
and it's pitch black and it's just this

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lingering feeling, it's just just super
scared. For some reason. When I

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first initially woke up, you know, woke up from those that first cadence

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of taps, Man, I was
just I was bro. I was pure

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just scared. I couldn't tell you
why. And it's something I've never experienced

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before. But the crazy thing about
it is, like I said that when

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the second initial when the secondary taps
happened, after that initial tap, I

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knew it was something freaky going on. Man. I just knew it was

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because there's no way someone is out
here tapping on someone's cabin and four in

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the morning. It just don't It
didn't make sense, man, So I

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did. I always carry when when
I'm traveling, and I was sleeping with

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an ar pistol, and then I
had my glock pistol. There was never

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any time in my mind I was
thinking about discharging the weapon. But my

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thing is, man, I just
you know, when I grabbed it closer

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to me, like sleeping, it
just gave me a sense of comfort,

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you know what I'm saying, because
in my head, I'm trying to gather

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how can any even if someone stood
on that unit, you would still need

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a ladder to reach right above where
my head is in his bed. Man.

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After all of that or whatever,
man, I just I couldn't sleep.

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So we got up and I go
over and my girl's brother and his

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girlfriend they're gamers, so they were
up gaming. So I go out and

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I'm like, hey, man,
have y'all been hearing something tap? And

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his girlfriend was like, when I
was in the bathroom earlier, and this

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was way after my fiance She's like, when I was in the bathroom early,

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I heard something tapping. What we
did was we turned off all the

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lights and we started looking out of
their window over there towards the empty cabin,

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but we couldn't see anything. And
I'm like, man, it's just

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super freaky, man, what happened. But it was just when you experienced

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something that you never experienced before,
you don't know how to grab your mind,

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grasp your mind around the concept of
what's really going on. And then

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so pretty much after that, man, I think we initially went to sleep,

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but my my fiancee's brother, no, his girlfriend, they said that

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they really didn't go to sleep that
night because they just felt uncomfortable. And

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like I said, she was the
one before she got there. Yeah,

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it's just bears and you're not used
to it or whatever, But I mean,

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to this day, man, she'll
tell you. I know what was

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out there, man, and it
wasn't no dangone bears. Man. That

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was pretty much the night man.
Trying to just jog my memory and make

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sure, there's not anything that I
missed, but just in a nutshell,

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man, that's pretty much what happened
at first night, and just the experience

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and what I felt in general.
Man, it was crazy. Oh yeah,

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Jeremiah, this is something. This
is something immediate also that I need

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to tell you. While we were
out there on the deck, we had

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neighbors that were adjacent to the unfinished
cabin. But so I want you to

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because I'm trying to give you a
perspective. So if we're on our deck,

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if we're looking amediately, there's the
unfinished cabin, but if you look

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at the two o'clock away from that
cabin, there was other people in a

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cabin, but they were hiring elevation
in us. So what was crazy is

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the whole time when we were sitting
out there on the deck recording those sounds

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and stuff like that, whatever was
messing with us was had to be over

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there messing with those people. Because
at the time, it was between two

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and three in the morning while we
were out there on the deck, and

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those people were on their deck with
flashlights flashing it down into the valley like

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they were looking for something, and
We're like, what could these people be

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looking for down in that valley at
two three in the morning. It was

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so crazy, and that just verified
what was happening to us. We just

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chalked it up to whatever it is, it's over there missing with those people,

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because come on, man, what
could they be in looking for at

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two three in the morning down in
the valley. It was I think it

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was like two dudes and maybe a
woman because you could see them. If

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we had binoculars, we probably could
look in their cabin. But we're looking

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up in elevation at them on the
deck and they're just they have flashlights and

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phones shining down into the valley,
and we're like, man, that it

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just it just blew our mind.
Man, it was so crazy. Man,

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it was so crazy. Jeremiah Ton, that is that's an incredible account

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for sure. I don't know how
you guys didn't just leave the premises.

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I paid that money, Jeremi,
I didn't want to get back. I

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love it. I have a few
I'm working through a few questions. If

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I can ask you some questions about
the night ahead go ahead, the tapping

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that you guys heard, so just
playing like Devil's avocate for a bit.

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So was it a different than like
a noise you would hear, like a

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woodpecker or can you describe what it
sounded like? Perfect? Perfect, Yeah,

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no problem. I didn't hear the
taps, the taps on the house

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or it was never the window,
it was like taps on the cabin itself.

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I didn't hear the taps that my
fiance's brother in law girlfriend heard,

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And I also didn't hear the taps
that my fiance heard. But she's right

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here with me, and she could
how what did those taps sound like?

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It was really hard, like just
just someone like, how many taps was

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it? It was just one?
One tap? She's just like a tap,

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okay, okay, So she said
it was just one tap that she

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heard. Now me, the taps
that I heard, it was two of

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the same cadences. And the thing
is if the first tap was tap tap

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tap tap tap, and then the
second tap was like tap tap tap tap

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or something like that, I still
wouldn't know how to explain it. But

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it was so freaky because Jeremiah,
when the taps happened, it was a

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cadence tap tap tap tap tap.
And what I've chalked it up to be

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was something was trying to get my
attention in general, because Jeremiah, the

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taps were right above my head.
So I heard the taps through this pure

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wooden cabin and through this pure wooden
headboard. The taps were right above my

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head, like it knew where I
was laying in the bed so it could

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tap. And like I said,
the first taps were like, hold on,

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it was like that, could you
hear that, Jeremiah, Okay,

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I'm sorry, well I'm not.
I'm not gonna bang on the wall.

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But it was tap tap tap tap
tap. That was the first one,

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like I said, So that initially, you know, woke me up.

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And you know, I asked my
feeling and say, hey, did you

408
00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:57.359
hear that? She was like here
what I'm like, Okay, don't worry

409
00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.160
about it. Like I said,
I'm thinking, okay, it could be

410
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.119
the heat or whatever. You know. I'm just I just blew it off

411
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:08.559
when I those back off, Man
three, It couldn't have been three to

412
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:15.960
five minutes later I hear the same
exact Haydence, the same exact tap in

413
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.799
the same spot that I heard it
right above my head. Man, No

414
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.440
way, I never heard a woodpecker
go tap tap tap tip tap. I

415
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.759
mean, it's it's always that,
you know what I'm saying. And I

416
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:33.240
don't know if woodpeckers are even out
at that Sorry I'm telling tweet. I

417
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.279
don't even know if woodpeckers are out
in the area in those times. Like

418
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.400
I said, this was the first
of November in celebration for her birthday,

419
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.599
which is November the seventh. Man, it's no way possibly it could have

420
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.279
been a woodpecker. And if it
was a woodpecker, it had to be

421
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.680
super intelligent for it to do the
same cadence twice. It just had to

422
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:59.440
be. Man. The other thing
that that really is interesting is how you

423
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:04.279
mentioned the neighbors in that area.
We're looking down in the valley with their

424
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:11.160
flashlights. That's at three in the
morning. Wow three? Why man at

425
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.039
three in the morning, Jeremiah.
And like I said, I'm pretty sure

426
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.079
the whole reason that we even had
this encounter, there's a okay, just

427
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:23.519
a little half half a circle disco
ball, it's like a little bluetooth and

428
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:29.279
the lights shining all over the cabin
and also out of that back window it

429
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.039
broadcast. It had to broadcast pretty
high in the air. And I'm pretty

430
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.480
sure a lot of people saw those
lights, because, like I said,

431
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:40.119
it took them ten minutes, seven
to ten minutes after they got off the

432
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.599
main strip to come up to where
we were. They were telling us that

433
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.960
they saw the lights before they even
got on the road to actually come up

434
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.200
there. So I'm knowing that these
lights had to be going they had to

435
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.039
be seen for at least a mile, Jeremiah, And we're up in elevation,

436
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.200
and man, when I get a
chance, and maybe after this call,

437
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:02.680
after we're off the call out,
definitely seeing you the pictures we have

438
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.240
the video of that bear also,
right, I'll seen you some just pictures

439
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.960
and videos of that whole thing.
But what is really crazy, Jeremiah,

440
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.079
I can't remember exactly what time it
was when I walked out there and I

441
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.400
shot that little with eight second video. Was that before or after your brother

442
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.680
then came? It was before,
Yeah, so, Jeremiah, at one

443
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.519
point of time before they came or
whatever. I think this was actually right

444
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.119
after we got back from the Mexican
restaurant. I go outside and I'm just

445
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.359
bs and I'm in the woods.
I'm happy. So i just go out

446
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:33.920
there and I'm just you know,
I just shoot a quick video of the

447
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.200
It's not I wouldn't call it a
tree line, but it's just a row

448
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.279
of trees. Next, let me
see if I'm walking, if I'm on

449
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.440
the front deck, it was to
the left, so it was on the

450
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:48.119
left, So it was over there, close to what my fiance's brother and

451
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.440
his girlfriend's room was. There was
a row of trees right there or whatever.

452
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.200
But I just shot a quick video. And I didn't even notice anything

453
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.079
in that video when I first shot
it. But due to all of the

454
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.240
strange things that we encountered later on
that night and stuff like that, maybe

455
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.839
a week or so later, something
was just telling me to go through the

456
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.640
video. So you have an iPhone, Right when you shoot a video on

457
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.480
the iPhone, you can go to
the video. At the bottom of the

458
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.799
video, you have a little script
part down there. You can take your

459
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.039
finger and scrub it and it'll slowly
pain through the video. Man, Jeremiah,

460
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.240
these pictures that I'm going to see
you. I've only ever sent these

461
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.799
pictures to one guy. And the
reason being is because this guy he has

462
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.599
a real unique name. If I
needed to find him, I probably could

463
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.440
again. But this was the only
guy that I've ever sent these pictures to

464
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:41.359
besides my fiance and her brother and
his girlfriend. But the guy he reached

465
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.599
out. I reached out to him, and he finally reached out to me.

466
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.160
I sent him the pictures and just
asked him what he thought, and

467
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.119
he was like, man, you
definitely have something here. And I just

468
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.640
told him, I don't mind you
sharing these pictures with any just give me

469
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:57.359
feedback. He never gave me feedback
on anything, and hopefully he's not using

470
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.240
my pictures just for anything. It
is what it is. I don't care

471
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.319
the whole My whole thing was I
needed to reach out to someone at that

472
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.359
time, man, because like I
said, I've been following this whole topic

473
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.440
ever since about I graduated in twenty
thirteen. I was working at a private

474
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:19.119
speech school in twenty fourteen, So
from about twenty fourteen all the way up

475
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:25.640
until now, I was very aware. I followed Jeff Meldrum of Scott Carpenter,

476
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.519
that's the guy I was mentioning,
who's actually from East Tennessee. Also,

477
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.160
I follow all these people, and
like I said, my first perspective

478
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.440
when I got into it back in
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, it was

479
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.240
more of the lines of Okay,
it's an unknown ape of primate that hasn't

480
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.519
been discovered. But after what I've
experienced, and even before all of this

481
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.759
information, like I said, I
drive trucks, man, and I see

482
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.720
the vast amount of land that is
out here, and just in one or

483
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:56.599
two states. It's mind blowing for
the masses not to believe that something could

484
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:03.599
exist that is just as much for
more intelligent and not technically advanced, but

485
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.400
in a sense of just being out
in the wilderness. It's right here in

486
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.240
our faces. Man. You just
have to get out here, and you

487
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.960
have to get out here and experience
things. But Jeremiah, Man, I

488
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.720
promise you, I've never experienced anything
like this ever in my life. Man.

489
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:19.599
I mean, it was amazing and
all, man, But it just

490
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:23.160
pushed me to want to look more
into the topic and do more research.

491
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.359
But I do follow and read a
lot of credible people's work and stuff like

492
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.240
that, man, And I know
for a fact what I experienced. Like

493
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.119
I said, I've never seen one
personally in real life, only off of

494
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.640
that picture that I saw. But
in real life myself, I didn't see

495
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.200
it. My fiancees brother, he
said he saw half of a face and

496
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.640
some shoulders, And this was twelve
to fifteen feet off of the ground.

497
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.039
So I'm just projecting that if the
bottom of the deck is ten to twelve

498
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.359
feet, then the top part of
the deck where we were sitting in the

499
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.799
phone and things like that, it
had to be fourteen to fifteen feet.

500
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.440
So for him to be looking straight
ahead or downward in the angle and see

501
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:07.720
something rising up shoulders and stuff,
I'm like, man, bears don't do

502
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:09.799
that. And if a bear stands
up, it's real sloppy. He said,

503
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.920
it was rising, real slow.
And he said, the crazy thing

504
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.200
about it is, he said,
the crazy thing about it is it wasn't

505
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.559
even fully erect. It was just
like gifting itself up. So it's crazy.

506
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.319
Man. It was crazy. Man. I tell you. You mentioned

507
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:30.880
that your brother in law's girlfriend,
I believe had some audio recordings that were

508
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.200
taking. Yeah, that would be
interesting. I don't know if it's possible

509
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.319
to hear those at all, but
I get those are pretty interesting. Yeah.

510
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.599
I think it was maybe one or
two recordings, if I don't want

511
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.319
to say the wrong thing, it
was one or two. I know for

512
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:49.240
sure it was one. But on
that one recording when we heard that branch

513
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.920
or log or whatever it was whatever
when it stepped on it and everything got

514
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.839
quiet. On that recording, you
know how on audio recording you can see

515
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:01.160
spikes to where sound it's played,
Like I saund there's a real small fight.

516
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.160
You can faintly hear something was yelling. It was one or two.

517
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.640
Something was yelling, but it wasn't
right there where all where we were hearing

518
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.119
all this motion around us. This
was like far away, like you could

519
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.680
faintly hear something like and I'm like, who in the hell would be out

520
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.799
here at two three in the morning
yelling like that? It's oh in,

521
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:30.519
Jeremiah. The next morning this was
crazy, Jeremiah. We heard someone It

522
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:36.960
sounded like they were having a gunfight. And then also the next morning when

523
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:42.359
we go out, we see huge
turkeys just walking up the driveway. And

524
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.680
then may what time? Okay,
the next morning we went outside that bear.

525
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.680
This had to be after we saw
the bear and it went about his

526
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.559
business. So when we left the
Mexican restaurant earlier that day around and I'm

527
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:58.160
gonna say around nine ten o'clock whatever, And I'm gonna say more nine o'clock

528
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.640
had to be about nine we had
food in the car, but we took

529
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.640
it out, so the smell of
the food was in the car. We

530
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:08.360
saw prints on the window in the
car door, but we just said it

531
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.159
had to be the bear that we
saw. We just chopped it up to

532
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.880
the bear. But that whole night
we kept hearing something over there by the

533
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.760
car. So the car is parked. The car. Okay, if you're

534
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.880
pulling to this cabin, you're coming
up like a mountainous road. It's not

535
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.519
like the road where you're almost about
to run people off the road. But

536
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:30.599
it is a small road only two
cars can fit. But my point is

537
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.519
when you drive up that driveway to
the driveways to the left, when you

538
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.239
pull directly beside the cabin to park, there's the ac unit. You look

539
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:43.159
up, there's a big circle window
about eighteen feet off the ground. This

540
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.599
is above the bed area where we
were sleeping in our room. And then

541
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.079
over there in that area, we
just kept hearing something. So let's just

542
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.400
say I get out of the car
and I'm standing right there on side of

543
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.760
the cabin. If I walk straight
back, we have the bends right there,

544
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.360
the bearproof bends, and you can
literally walk under the back deck right

545
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.039
when you walk past there. Now, there were two doors, like some

546
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.639
utility doors right there by that ac
unit, but it was locked from the

547
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:14.239
outside. Right that possibly that thought
went through my head, like I know,

548
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:20.039
God's during, nobody's out here under
here in this utility area. But

549
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.360
you could tell that the lock hadn't
been funded with or anything, because I'm

550
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:28.159
pretty sure the oh, I'm skipping
around because things are popping up in my

551
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.159
head. There was also a door
inside of my fiance brother's room. It

552
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.199
was locked. I don't think nothing
was too creepy about that, but it

553
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.559
was just a locked door in the
room, and I'm guessing that it went

554
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:44.079
to maybe like a hot water heater
or something like that that they didn't want

555
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.320
someone to have access to. That
was crazy. But those double doors,

556
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.440
it's not anything that I think they
had to do with anything. I'm sure

557
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.400
of that. But my point is, man, if you were to walk

558
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.440
from under that deck, let's just
say you just say twelve feet after that

559
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:06.719
twelve maybe fifteen feet, you're going
to slide down that valley. Man,

560
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.400
That's how much of a steep decline
it was coming from under the back of

561
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.519
the deck area. And whatever that
was initially when I first heard that when

562
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.239
I went I stepped out there.
When I stepped one foot out there to

563
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:23.199
grab that wine bottle, man,
something rain and it stopped right in the

564
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.840
area, right at that point where
you're about to go down, And I'm

565
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.679
like, man, this is is
this doesn't it doesn't make any logical sense.

566
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.400
Who would be out here messing with
people in a cabin. It's just

567
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:39.320
crazy, man. Don The next
morning, did you happen to before you

568
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.199
left, did you happen to look
around the outside of the cabin to see

569
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:49.639
maybe if you found any tracks on
the ground around where the tapping was happening,

570
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.880
or anything to do with the wall
on the outside. See, this

571
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.599
is the thing. I did check
out that wall area, and it made

572
00:36:54.679 --> 00:37:00.480
me even more uncomfortable because the area
right there is basically a driveway, so

573
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.599
there's no way any footprints could have
been seen. And even back when you

574
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.960
walk back there under that deck area
where we were hearing all of this commotion,

575
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:14.440
it's so much leaf foliage because of
the location we're at. You know

576
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.639
what I'm saying, This was like
the beginning of fall. This was fall.

577
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.079
You got orange leaves, red leaves, brown leaves, green leaves.

578
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.320
Man there wouldn't have been a way. It wasn't the type of soil or

579
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:30.840
anything where there's like mud or it's
just hard packed, just a wooded area

580
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.360
with foliage. And that little area
away from under the deck area was just

581
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.639
like it wasn't bushes, it wasn't
thick like that. It was almost like

582
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:44.840
that tall grass, that tall brown, thin grass. It was like just

583
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.719
full of that. And like I
said, I have pictures I didn't take.

584
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.400
I have videos and pictures. I'm
gonna go through them and see you

585
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.079
everything that's significant pertaining to this.
But the only thing that we did see

586
00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:00.239
what we suggested it to be was
maybe the smell from that food was in

587
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.400
the car and the bear, I
guess the bear put I'm sure whatever the

588
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.159
bear, I think it was a
bear. I'm gonna say it was a

589
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.320
bear. It put his hand on
the window like it was trying to press

590
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:15.760
up against the window. But we
saw a muddy print on the window and

591
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.880
a muddy print on the on the
car, like on the car door,

592
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.760
and not like it was pulling it. It was just like something stood up

593
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.400
against the car basically, And they
stood out so much because before we went

594
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.880
to the cabins. I had just
washed her car, so a muddy freaking

595
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.440
print on the car is just it
sticks out like a sore thumb. But

596
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.519
I'm gonna just say that was the
bear because we did see that bear later

597
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.480
again in the night, like when
we were out there, but when we

598
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.320
were hearing all of these this other
commotion that was around us, that bear

599
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.320
was nowhere in sight. I can
guarantee it was nowhere in sight. Yeah,

600
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.760
I agree with you, don Some
of it sounds like potentially a bear,

601
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:58.519
but some of it definitely I'm saying
not a bear from that I'm hearing

602
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.960
from your story, man, it
just feels like there's a lot more that

603
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.119
could Man, I would, yeah, talk to the brother in law,

604
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:12.800
talk to the brother in law's girlfriend. I'd love to hear there what because

605
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.840
they saw some stuff that you did. So I'm gonna ask you something,

606
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:22.119
Jeremiah, my brother in law is
actually he's actually here. Is there anything

607
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.960
against like him just saying a couple
of words on the show real quick?

608
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.679
So there's not. I'll just I'll
have to get I'll want to do releases

609
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.199
before i can air the episode.
But if you want to ask him,

610
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.480
if it's if they're up for it. Okay, Yeah, he'll definitely be

611
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.880
up for it. Now, I
haven't talked I haven't I'm going down here.

612
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.239
I haven't talked to him about any
of this. So I want you

613
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:51.159
in the audience to generally here.
I want you guys to generally here,

614
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.599
and I watch this. This is
authentic. Just watch this. Jay,

615
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.519
all right. So you you remember
when we went to the cabin, right,

616
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.039
I got a guy on the phone. He got a podcast. It's

617
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.480
called big Foot Society. I reached
out to him a while ago. He

618
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.920
wants to know what it was you
saw when we were on the back of

619
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.079
the day. His name is Jeremiah. Jeremiah. This is my brother in

620
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:17.760
law, Jordan big what's up man? It was like a big fuzzy girl

621
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:22.760
like gray. It was like coming
up our force. It was like standing

622
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.519
up. But I went inside before
even shut shoulder his face or anything.

623
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.960
And then and then let me see. Okay. I told him about that

624
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.599
part, and then he was just
okay, what about we were hearing all

625
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.199
that movement around. Yeah, it
was like coming from different type of different

626
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.159
areas of the woods and shit.
And then one was stuck, stepped on

627
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.400
a big ass logs and it snaps. Yeah, and everything went quiet,

628
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.000
right, Everything just went quiet after
that. Now, initially before y'all made

629
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.360
it, when I called you,
tell him about the call. Tell him

630
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.119
how panic I was telling about.
I thought you were just seeing a baron

631
00:40:54.159 --> 00:41:00.719
shit. Then I saw that big
ass gray whatever it was it was.

632
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.119
And then for your girlfriend, does
she still think it's a bear? No,

633
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.159
she believes it. And what you
were talking about, and then you

634
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.960
and my sister she her and my
sister su. Yeah, that's why I

635
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.039
said. I told him I was
the only one who didn't see it,

636
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.360
only looking on the other side.
Yeah, I kept looking everywhere else when

637
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.639
we were hearing those noises and then
the damn tap. And then I told

638
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.679
you all about the wonder on the
cabin door, on the wild wire on

639
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.519
the walk man like. And I
was just telling Jeremiah, I haven't even

640
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.800
talked to you about any of these. You know what I'm saying. And

641
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.679
then the picture that I found in
that little video that I sent right,

642
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.079
you can see the phase and shit, man, it's now Jeremiah, you

643
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.039
and the audience. Man, y'all
just heard that live. This is not

644
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.039
anything that was initiated. He's in
here playing the game right now. Man.

645
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.440
But I know he has more to
say. Man, But like I

646
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.039
say, I know you have to
have the release forums and all of that,

647
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.000
but I just wanted you guys to
just hear this for yourself. Man.

648
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.079
Like I said everything that, I
just stay here and told you guys,

649
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:57.000
he just initialized it because he was
there. Man. And like I

650
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.920
said, I didn't get to see
anything. They everybody else saw it.

651
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.719
Him and his girlfriend. They all
saw something and they freaked out and ran

652
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.079
in the house. And I was
frustrated because I'm like, why would y'all

653
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.480
do it? You know what I'm
saying. But I could understand. He

654
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.320
was like, man, I wouldn't
about to see I wasn't about to look

655
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:19.000
and see what it was. So
is Jordan's still there? Oh? Oh,

656
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.400
give me one second. I'm sorry, give me one second of my

657
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.119
house. I think you got a
question for you, bro. All right,

658
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.880
Jordan right here? He is,
Jordan when you and your your girlfriend?

659
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.840
Correct you, you said you actually
saw the face of whatever it was.

660
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.320
I saw the body it was standing
up. I seen it on the

661
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.519
verse of stand up, but I
went inside before I could see the face

662
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.800
I got a little scared. I
ain't die. Did you notice anything about

663
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.159
the body that you could see that
you remember? It was like it was

664
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.199
very furry big, like the arms
were huge, and it was way bigger

665
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.360
than the bear. And like I
said, it was still standing. We

666
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.880
were on the second like on the
second story, and it was still standing

667
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.920
on this way to stand up before
I went inside. It wouldn't even it

668
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.960
wasn't even fully stetting up. It
was still like it was just on all

669
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.320
fours And you're just getting on Tuesday. When you say the arms were huge,

670
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.199
what do you mean by that,
Like the size of a big branch,

671
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.880
the width of them, like muscular, very muscular. Yeah, okay,

672
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.159
did you see anything about the length
of the arms at all? Oh?

673
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.880
Yeah, they were. They were
like at least six feet long.

674
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.960
And what I told him is where
we were is about fifteen feet off the

675
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.400
grounds for you to be able to
see him. Yeah, it would have

676
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:45.400
to have been at least eight to
nine feet tall bro or taller, because

677
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.480
like I said, he was just
still. He wasn't even standing up fully.

678
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.719
He was just getting like rising from
all fours to his feet. One

679
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.719
last question, Jordan, I appreciate
you being ambushed like this. Do you

680
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.000
remember anything about that? Did you
see the head of the creature at all?

681
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.480
Like that shape of the head.
I mean, that's like it was

682
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.480
a big It was like at least
like the size of like two basketballs or

683
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.360
anything. I saw that. I
didn't see the face. I just didn't

684
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.840
see the face. That's pretty awesome, Jordan, thank you for sharing that,

685
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.519
Yes, sir, I appreciate that. J Yeah, Jeremiah. Man,

686
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.719
I'm not gonna say I wish I
would have seen it how they reacted.

687
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.760
But man, I'm just still blown
away about it. Man, it's

688
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:35.440
wild, don this is a wild
one. I'll be very interested once you're

689
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:39.559
able to send some of the different
evidence over. I'm interested to see what

690
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.559
it looks like for sure. Man, listen, I tell you what,

691
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.840
Jeremiah, Oh, how much time? How much more time do we have?

692
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.360
Oh? I got time? It's
really you know, if you have

693
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.639
other things to share? Okay,
Actually, before I forget, I had

694
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:59.039
another question. Is some people Okay, so a lot of listeners really like

695
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:04.159
the area you're talking about, this
whole Gatlin Bird, pigeon forge, blah

696
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:08.840
blah blah. Are you able to
share like specifics as to it sounds like

697
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.119
it's just a place you rented out. Are you able to share specifics about

698
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.519
it? If I needed to get
like specific as in exactly how to get

699
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.440
to it this specific cabin, I
would love to do that, but that

700
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.199
would be something that I would do
offline because we have a lot of crazies

701
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.440
out here and I don't want this
area being ambushed at bar. But all

702
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.119
of that information we can definitely I
can give it to you offline, but

703
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.320
I don't feel comfortable doing it on
here. But what I can tell the

704
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.559
people is we were just in that
literally in that we passed right by the

705
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.119
cabin, and I don't mean like
physically passed by it. But this strip,

706
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.400
there's a strip in Gatlin Bird.
The cabin is located in Severeville or

707
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.119
Severville, however you want to pronounce
it is spelled see I V E R

708
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.480
V I lead. And this is
past Dollywood and all of that out there

709
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.679
with the main attraction. But so
you have Cevervillevilleville, you have Pigeon Forders,

710
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.599
you have Gatlin Bird. Man,
I forgot why we're going to this,

711
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.960
Okay, So we were just there. So we actually spent Christmas Eve

712
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:14.320
and Christmas in that's literally in that
same area. The only difference is the

713
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.519
first cabin where we experience all of
this. So if we're heading toward Gatlin

714
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.519
Bird, you have to turn down
this middle and then go back the opposite

715
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:28.360
way like you were coming to turn
right to go up that mountain. Now

716
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.400
where we stayed at this time,
If you're going to Gatlin Bird, you

717
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.360
just go right up this road and
pass this there's it's like what do you

718
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.400
call it, the little station whatever
with the forest ranger station or whatever.

719
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.840
You go up past that. The
difference in where we stayed this time.

720
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.800
We were actually higher up in elevation
than the first cabin, but it was

721
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.119
more populated. Like I have videos
and pictures from that also. But the

722
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.039
thing is the other cabin is high
in elevation, but it is at the

723
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.559
time. Now I can't speak for
today because, like I said, this

724
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.159
was not last year. This was
November of twenty twenty two. That area,

725
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.360
Like I said, we had abandoned
unfinished cabin to the right of it.

726
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.039
Okay, hold on, if I'm
looking at the front of the cabinets

727
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.199
to the right, and we had
one neighbor to the left of us,

728
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.920
and we never saw them the whole
time we saw the car, but we

729
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.880
never saw them. Now, the
people who were back on the deck flashing

730
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.639
down into the valley, they were
our neighbors also, but they were only

731
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.519
our neighbors because of the location that
we were in and we could actually see

732
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.639
them if I were to guess they
if let's just say we were thirty feet

733
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.480
in the air, they had to
be about sixty because the cabin that they

734
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.320
had was a little bigger than ours. Because our hours was only a two

735
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.639
bedroom. Their cabin they looked like
they had maybe a five bedroom cabin,

736
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.559
and they had a super nice deck
on the back. But all of this,

737
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:53.760
Man, if you're ever in this
area, jre Maaya, if you're

738
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:59.239
interested, man, because there's a
lot of people that I've heard on your

739
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:05.480
podcast that I would love to get
out and just do some researching or whatever

740
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.320
you want to call it with man. But yeah, but if people are

741
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.159
interested in this area as far as
just traveling, not just the Bigfoot or

742
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.880
both, man, it's a great
area to come to actually for people who've

743
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.320
never been there. If they do
decide to actually go to Gatlinburg or Christmas

744
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.119
or something like that, the whole
town of Gatlinburg is open for Christmas.

745
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:27.679
That nothing's closed down. If it
is, there's maybe one or two spots,

746
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.159
but they make all of their money
around the holidays. So that is

747
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.880
definitely something that people should look into
if they want to come out. They've

748
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.400
never experienced being out of the mountains
in the cabins. I will not share

749
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:44.400
the location with anyone but you where
we stayed at, but if people wanted

750
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:47.360
just a general area, I would
definitely be willing to share that part,

751
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.320
which you would say general. The
general area you can share on the podcast

752
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:59.199
is like Severville severe severe, Yeah, severe, yep, gotcha because I

753
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.519
know I'm going to get dude.
After every episode I get you. Guys

754
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.079
are always like, hey tell me
where I can't tell you. Yeah,

755
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.639
but listen, I swear, Hey, look, that's confidential. But there

756
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.480
there's this older guy, Jeremiah from
a while ago, and I'm gonna just

757
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.440
bring it to you to make the
only way I could probably make you remember

758
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.159
because I know you man, you
have so many episodes. There was this

759
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.719
guy who I think he had a
girlfriend, and he was like, I

760
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.440
just want them to go away.
They slapped the house, They've killed dogs

761
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.519
and all of this was that kind
I know exactly. Man, I would

762
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.519
and you're talking about you. I
would love to was that guy from Tennessee.

763
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.360
Yeah, man, Jere, I
don't know if you've ever done it.

764
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:45.360
Man, if you can try and
see if he's okay with someone who

765
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.119
else who's had an experience. Man, I'm not trying to go and stir

766
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.880
up anything. I would love to
just go out and just explore they guy's

767
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.760
property. Man, if ever possible. Man, I know he will be.

768
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.960
I know he listens, but yeah, that would be very interesting,

769
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.519
I think because from what it sounds
like, stuff is still happening off and

770
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.320
on. It's a pretty wild area
for sure where he's at. I hate

771
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:12.320
that. I hate that for that
old guy. Man. That's no way

772
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.960
for anyone to live. Man and
his neighbors too. It's the crazy thing.

773
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:21.400
It's not just him, but don
it has been. It's such a

774
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.119
fun, fun time chatting with you, and I feel like there's gonna be

775
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:30.000
more that comes out about this whole
night. I just have a feeling that

776
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.159
the story's not done. But I
appreciate you ritching out to me. Yeah,

777
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.679
Man, no problem, I appreciate
too. Man, And I must,

778
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:37.880
I have to give you your flowers. Man. What you're doing,

779
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.559
man is great. Keep up the
great work man, full force ahead.

780
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.960
Don't let anyone stop you. Man. If you seem like an honest guy,

781
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.639
hopefully you and your family had a
great Christmas and things like that.

782
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.519
Man. And it may be a
push man, but hopefully man. One

783
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:54.719
day, Man, we could sit
down and talk about something man and maybe

784
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:59.679
just set up a camping trip or
something. Man, because I live maybe

785
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.079
about twenty minutes from Okoy River and
then my fiance we'd like to take our

786
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.719
bully puppy and go up into the
mountains, get fresh air and just look

787
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.559
over and we're just gonna wind up
there. Man. But if you're ever

788
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:15.760
in East Tennessee, you're in a
Missouri. Where are you Jeremia, Central

789
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.400
Iowa? Yeah, Central Iowa.
Okay, if you're ever in East Tennessee,

790
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.239
Man in this area, Man,
you do have my contact and my

791
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.440
email. Man. If you want
to set something up, man where we

792
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.119
can just get out and do something
fun. It doesn't even have to be

793
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:34.639
Bigfoot related. But if you ever
need some guidance or something fun to do,

794
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.280
or me to point you in a
direction in this area. Man,

795
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.920
please feel free to reach out to
me. Yes, Sarah and Don,

796
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.760
thank you so much for coming on. I am going to stop recording here.

797
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:52.239
You're a Big for Society. Art
goal is to provide a platform for

798
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:58.239
those that have encountered Bigfoot to share
their encounter in a safe environment. But

799
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.639
we need to hear your story.
If you've experienced something that you just can

800
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:08.280
explain, please send me an email
at Bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot com.

801
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.840
Then we can start the conversation.
And I know a lot of you have

802
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.960
not shared your encounter at all.
It's been twenty years and it's time that

803
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.159
you get this off your chest and
then you can get some well deserved rest

804
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:28.679
because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through,

805
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.000
and I appreciate every one of you
listening