Oct. 7, 2024

The Closest Anyone Has seen Sasquatch at Lake Cushman, Lynn Gaspaire - Pt. 1

Join us for an extraordinary journey with Lynn Gaspaire as he reveals his remarkable encounters with Bigfoot, stretching from his childhood in Ocean Shores, Washington in 1959 to more recent interactions across various locations like Killen Creek,...

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Season 1

Join us for an extraordinary journey with Lynn Gaspaire as he reveals his remarkable encounters with Bigfoot, stretching from his childhood in Ocean Shores, Washington in 1959 to more recent interactions across various locations like Killen Creek, Mount Adams, and Lake Cushman. Lynn provides a detailed recounting of his initial close encounter at age six, the delicate process of building relationships with Bigfoot families, and the intricate behaviors and communication methods of these elusive beings. His narrative is not only captivating but also provides valuable insights into the intelligence of Bigfoot, the potential for interspecies friendships, and the fundamental dos and don'ts when engaging with them in the wilderness. Lynn’s profound experiences and in-depth knowledge are sure to fascinate and educate.

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've got

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the privilege of talking to mister Lynn guess Pear today.

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He's an individual that I've found from the great book

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Sasquatch Face to Face by Tom Cantrell. Lots of great

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stories in there, and thankfully he was like, yes, I'll

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definitely come on. We can chat about what I've experienced. So, Lynn,

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it's great to have you on the show today.

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Well, thank you for inviting me to be on the show.

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And it's all part of my research to help people

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understand a big understanding foot I am in the book

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Sasquatch Face to Face.

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I did write chapter.

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Nine absolutely, and we were having quite the conversation before

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we started recording. We're talking about, you know, you're involved

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with all sorts of stuff. You talked to a lot

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of really cool people and it's everyone from I mean, well,

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do you mind me saying who what kind of people

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you talked to?

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That's fine, all right?

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You talk to everyone from doctor Meldrum to Bob Gillen

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and you just have some really interesting conversations with some

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really interesting people. And yeah, I'm excited to talk to you.

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So Lynn, take me back right to where this started

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for you back to it sounds like age six?

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All right, This is a true story.

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It happened in nineteen fifty nine at Ocean Shorge, Washington,

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which is a vacation area where people go to dig clams.

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And the families were there and digging clams and doctor

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limits and came back to the.

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Duplex to clean clams.

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And being the littlest guy there, I got to go

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outside out back and.

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Looking for something to do.

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And behind the duplex was this big BlackBerry patch running

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from right to left. It was about twenty foot long

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and about seven eight foot tigh and it was just

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loaded with blackberries. So, being a six year old who

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liked blackberries, I decided I was going to pick blackberries.

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And by the shed behind the duplex there was three

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one gallon white plastic buckets that got damn when I

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went over to the blackberries bushes.

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And I started picking the low hanging.

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Clusters of blackberries. And while I was picking the blackberries,

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I would ever now and they hear like something pull

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on a vine, or i'd see a vine snatch move

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and I hear like a sucking like, like somethy was

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slurping berries or something off the vine. And I would

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look around and I didn't see anybody or anything. So

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I went back to picking the blackberries and filling the buckets.

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And there there'd be a pull.

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On the bush or a vine would push and some braking,

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and I'd hear that sucking.

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Sound and I'd look again. Nothing. So I decided to

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work higher on the patch.

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So I went over to the shed, which was about

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ten feet away from the patch, and I got this

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old fashioned wooden step ladder and I came over and

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I put it up next to the the BlackBerry patch.

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I had about a bucket and a half of berries

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left to do.

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And as I.

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Started picking the berries, i'd climb up the step ladder

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and Derek be the pull on the bush again and

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the noise, and I'd look at see nothing. And I

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got about halfway up and as I'm picking black berries,

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right up in front of me comes.

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His black hand. It's the right hand.

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It's covered with hair clear down to the fingernails. It's

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got fingernails as an opposing thumb. It looks like a

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human hand, but only bigger, and it's covered with fine

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black hair. It pulls berries over to the side. I'm

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not up high enough where I can look over the

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patch yet, and so I look at this and I'm going, well,

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was I that a person or something? And so I

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picked some more and I reach over the pull a

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cluster to me, and this.

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Hand comes up again. It's a right hand.

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It's covered with hair from the fingernails clear down the

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wrist and the portion of the arm that I can see,

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and this hair is fine black hair. It's about an

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inch or so long, and it pulls the berries over.

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And I'm picking berries and I keep thinking to myself,

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is this some person or something? Because I've seen the

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hand look like a human hand, only bigger. And so

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I'm back to picking the berries and the hand comes

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up again and it gets a hold of a cluster

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of berries right next to me.

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So I reach over.

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With my left hand and I touched the index finger

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and the forefinger on the right hand and it pulls

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back and I go, oh, that's interesting, And so I

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go to start picking and the hand comes back real slow,

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and so I reach over and I again it's the

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hair is soft and the hand doesn't pull the ways

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stays there for.

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A little bit, and then we go back to picking

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the berries.

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And I reach up to my left to get a

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higher cluster of berries. Up comes the right arm and

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it's covered from hair as far as I can see

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top and bottom.

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It grabs the.

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Cobine because it pulls it down, and I go, oh,

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that's the motion and the sound that I was hearing.

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Whatever this is on the other side of the bush

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is doing it. And so I pick more berries and

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I reach up to get a cuts of berries, which

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is almost the area with a hand.

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The hand comes up and this time it touches my hand.

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Its fingers are across my index finger and forefinger on

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my left hand, and it pulls the uh, the berries

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down to a board about it in front of me,

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and I'm just looking at this like what is this?

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So I pick some berries off with my right hand.

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It pulls them over the Meanwhile, the left arm comes

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up on the other side of the bush and pulls

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down berries.

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And this is what we're doing.

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So we keep doing this and I'm picking berries and

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I come up a couple more higher. I fill up

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the second but I'm working on the third bucket.

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Well, now I'm up.

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Where I'm about the third fourth wrong on the ladder.

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I can see over it. And as I'm picking.

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Berries, the hand comes up and gets a hold some

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berries right straight in front of me.

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And I take my right hand and I just put

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it down right on the on the hand and it

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doesn't move back, and it pulls it back and I

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reach over to get another club for berries with my

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with my right hand, up comes the left arm. It's

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covered from a hair from hand to shoulder, top and bottom.

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The hair between an inch to two inches long black.

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The skin on the fong of the hand is lighter colored.

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All the nails dark human looking nails opposing thumb and

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it gets a hold of my hand as it comes down.

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And so we're doing this back and forth. So I

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finally get next to the top rung and I reach

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up to get one to higher cup. Up comes the

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arm again and it pulls it down. It stop bombos

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right in front of my face. I pick some berries.

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It ticks some berries and I hear the slurfing noise again.

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So I go.

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So the time I come up and I'm getting ready

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to do it, and I just for some reason. I

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heard like a noise, like a grunt or something, and

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I look down down to my left on the opposite

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side of the bush of maybe eighteen twenty point story,

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there's a face.

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It has a.

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Tan colored forehead that slopes back. The head on top

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is covered with black hair. It's wider at the back

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and is that the front It goes up, but it

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doesn't have a sagular crest. I can see ears that

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are about twice the size of a average human there.

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The ears are black colored with fine, maybe quarter inch

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long hair on it. And I look right into the face.

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It has brown eyes, black pupils. There's whites in the eye.

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It has a flat and nubian's style nose with almond

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shaped nostrils. The skin is a dark tan color. It's

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got like a full beard, an inch long hair on

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its face that has longer The distance between the bottom

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of the nose and the lip is longer than a

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average adult.

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And it has no visible neck. And I'm looking down.

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It has no clothes on as far as I can

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see down.

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It is.

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Covered in the hair.

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And I'm looking at this and I'm trying to, as

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a six year old, figure out what this is. My

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first thought was, as an Afro American kid, why would

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an Afro American child or teenager be out picking blackberries nude,

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all hair covery? So I know it wasn't that. And

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it didn't have a snout, it had a face, it

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had a nose, chin, ears, no visible neck, all covered

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in black hair. So I'm looking at it and being

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a six year old, I'm curious. I'm not afraid of it.

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And I speak to it and I say, are you

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picking blackberries too? The biggest and the juiciest ones and

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the sweetest ones are up high.

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He kind of takes its.

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Head at me, and as I reach up to get

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some blackberries, it reaches up, it takes a hold of

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vine and my hand, It brings it down in front

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of me. It try it towards me, and I take them.

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It takes them, and I'm looking at this and I

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talk to it again, and I go, can you hear me?

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Can you talk? Because I'm trying to be its friend,

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I'm trying to make friends with it. It doesn't answer anything,

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and I started to feel just super sad because it

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doesn't talk, and I just for some reason reached up

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and I touched my right ear with my right pointing finger,

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and I go, can you hear? It reaches up with

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its left hand and it touches its left ear, and

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I'm going, is it mimaging me?

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I'm thinking this to myself or is it telling me

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that it can hear? And I go up and I

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touched my ear again. Can you hear me?

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It does the exact same thing back, So I'm thinking,

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as a six year old, it can hear me. Then

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I fell super sad and I'm looking at it in

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this face and I say, how sad you can hear

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but you can't talk because I thought it you couldn't speak.

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It kind of grunts and it looks at me and

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just me a six year old right from the heart.

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I say, you need a friend? Can I be your friend?

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I just ask it to be I can be his friend.

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It takes with its left hand. It gets the hold

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of a custer of blackberries like hand somebody over it,

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and it hands the blackberries to me. I take him

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with my right hand, and it puts its left hand

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kind of like.

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At the waste level out palma to the left side

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of me.

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I take the BlackBerry I picked some, and then I

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take a clump of blackberries in the exact.

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Manner that it handed to me.

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I hand it back to it and it takes it

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with its left hand, and I put my left hand

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down flat in the palm of its hand.

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We're holding hands. I'm on the ladder, he's on the other.

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Side of the blackfish, and it reaches out and we

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put At that moment, I just felt this connection.

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Like we just became friends.

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And later on through research, I learned that blackberries or

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any type of berries is a significant part of their survival.

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So from a.

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Big foot a gift of blackberries or berries to you,

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that's a pretty significant gift of friendship.

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And I learned that from discussions with Tom Cantrell. So

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this is what it did.

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He went on picking berries and touching hands, hold hands

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back and forth.

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I would talk to it.

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I never thought to walk around the patch, and uh,

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we kept doing this. We were friends as far as

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I could save it. Being a six year old, I

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just made friends with whatever this was. It wasn't an

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a for American kid. It was this big hair covered

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animal creature that was about six foot six six and

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six six foot six covered with hair that picked backberries

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with me. The people that were in the opposite end

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of the of the dude flex had a lab and

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the lab come come out, fired out running.

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It started barking and growling. It could smell the bigfoot

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as all that I could figure, and the.

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Bigfoot knit went at it, growling, shaking the bushes. And

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when it came out, so I turned to the left

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and the lab they're kicked out for me and I hit.

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The ground with a thump on my bottom.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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The ladder went down one of my bucket, last buck

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of bear. It landed between the ladder legs on the

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ground and I'm on the ground and the lab is

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just I mean, it's trying to, I guess, protect me,

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and the Bigfoot's trying to protect.

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Me, and they're going at it back and forth.

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Well, it comes out from behind the patch going on

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the trail to go into the woods, and it has

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to pass under a Douglas fur and there's a dead

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branch about four inches stick that sticks out and it

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comes out, reaches up with it right hand, grabs that branch,

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just snaps it down, breaks it off, hits the other

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end on the ground and it's got like a three

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and a half four foot club and it turns so

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much waist it puts its left hand out and it's

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facing the.

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Dog and they're at each other.

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No doubt in my mind that this whatever it was,

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was fixing to walk this dog. And people are starting

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to hill and scream and come out, and I'm still sitting.

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On the ground looking right at it.

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And it goes down the path and about ten fifteen

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feet down the path there's a little swale, there's a

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dead stump and a boat down tree.

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It goes down behind into.

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The little swale there hole there and behind the stump

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and it just drops down. And I'm sitting on the ground.

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I can look and it's looking in my direction. And

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the people come out and they called it. They're calling

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the dog off. The dog didn't go aft through it.

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It came back towards my direction. And my parent, my

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mom came out, and my grandmother come out and they

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are going, what's going on here? And the owner says, well,

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the lab door went after a bear or something that

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was near your child. Now we're going to stop right

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here and reflect back. Two things. One who picks blackberries

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and the BlackBerry patch barefoot, and what bear runs on

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two feet can reach up with the red of the

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right hand, four fingers of palm and opposing thumb and

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break off a branch and break it off on the

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ground and turn while standing on two feet and look

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at the dog and have that club held about shoulder heights.

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That's not a bear. So I get escorted off into the.

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Into the duplex, and they pick up two of my

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buckets of berries, and everybody starts asking me questions about

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what I saw, what happened, and that scared me more

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than what happened outside, because these are adults, and you know,

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and I don't know truly how to explain him. In

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a park warden or a sheriff or he shows up,

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I remember the green uniform and they're describing this, and

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my grandfather comes over and he asked me. He says,

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describe to me what it looks like. And I described

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it to him and I said it had a face

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covered in hair, like a teenager with a beard, and

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one of the dolls. Maybe The warden or said, does

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he know the difference between what a bear is? And

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my grandfather says, oh, yes, he knows what a bear is.

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No problem, and I did it that age, and.

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So my grandfather is asking me to describe it, and

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he says, did it have a muzzle? Did it have

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a nose? I said, had a nose, and.

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I reached up and touched my grandfather's nose and those

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like this, and he says that I said, and he

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asked me more. I said, had ears on the side

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of it's not on top, and I said, I had

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a chin.

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I touched my grandfather's chin. And one of the adults says.

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He's describing a bigfoot, a sasquatch, And that's what I

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really connected at That's what I saw because I knew

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at that age what a bear looked like, and this

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was not a bear. So I asked him, well, did

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you bring my berries in? And I said, there's there's

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three buckets. Well, we brought two in, and my grandfather says, Patty,

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you guys variers and my grandther go out and get

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his other bucket.

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My two uncles went outside.

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They walked around the back side of the patch and

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they found thirteen and a half fourteen inch quadruple e

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barefoot footprints with a little back of dirt in the

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track going down the path. To where I said it

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stepped off behind the stuff, and then they found tracks

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of it coming back.

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So they walked back.

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And I had told them that the ladder had landed

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on its side, the legs apart, and the other bucket

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of berries was between the legs. When they got there,

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the bucket was picked up, and it's about all the

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berries were put back in the bucket, and the ladder

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was put together and laid next to the the bush.

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And they had followed the tracks back from where it

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went off up to the bucket to where the bucket.

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The berries were. What would a friend do? It came

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back and that was what started out for me.

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And I truly believe that that because of that incident

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and the physical contact with that bigfoot, led to many

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of the other encounters that I had with Bigfoot from

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then until throughout my life. I believe is you make

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friends with them, they know you. From my observations, if

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one knows you, I would put forth to the whole

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Bigfoot family, no matter where they're at or where they're

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at through the state, they'll recognize.

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You, I would agree. And I think that goes both

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ways too. If you're recognized as someone who has bad

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intentions or is not a friend that is going to

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go across the family.

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Yes, that does.

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I've listened to a lot of people in Washington State say, well,

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I've been out looking for forty years, I've never seen

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the bigfoot, And I go.

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What's your intentions? What are you doing? Well, we're trying

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to follow over during this. I said, if.

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You're doing things, you know with certain expectation intentions, they're

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going to respond to that without a doubt. A bigfoot

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can read your facial expressions, it can read your body language,

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and it can uh.

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Understand your voice inflection.

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And I had never any time felt threatened by that bigfoot.

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It kind of felt like I had a big friend

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that was going to watch out for me and see

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that I wasn't going to get hurt while we were

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picking blackberries.

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Uh, it was curious. It definitely had intelligence.

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It definitely had patience because you know what teenager would

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put up with a six year old?

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Oh, absolutely, it's It's probably one of the best accounts

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I've heard of them regards to quick intelligence. It's just

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incredible how many points in that account it shows its

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quick intelligence. Yes, I'm curious, you know there are points

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when you actually had contact, physical contact with the bigfoot.

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Do you remember if didn't have a smooth skin, or

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do you remember anything about how that felt.

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It felt soft, Its hair felt very soft. Of course

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this was a juvenile. The skin was soft. It's definitely

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a very much aware of its strength, because it never

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like grabbed me. It would touch in the hole, but

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it was not hard. It was very light and very gentle,

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and if I moved a cook to.

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Move my hand away, it would let go.

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Of course, it could probably see me more than I

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could see it, because I still had some of the

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screening from the off of the berry patch.

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Bre It standing up could look up and see.

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Me more clearly, right wow, until I'd look down.

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After you had this encounter, did it put you down

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a path right away for trying to find them again

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or having interactions or was there a time period before

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you had your next interaction.

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I was always curious about my friend and when we

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would go back there, if he went back to that

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same spot, I would look for it, especially on the

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blackbird patches. My next encounter when I saw bigfoot was

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six years about six years later, ten years later, nineteen

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sixty nine, at Killing Creek, Mount Adams, and.

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We were camping there.

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And it had been fishing, and the older people, the

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family members, had.

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Decided to take a nap. And there was a huckleberry.

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Patch down the road from where we were camp So

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I went to my mom and I asked her for her.

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Tumbleware ball.

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I was going to go down to the huckleberry patch

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and he cuckleberries. So I did that, and I got

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the ball from my mom and I up the road,

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uh maybe seventy five hundred yards, and there was a

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big sloping downhill that was covered. It was a bit

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logged off area. It was that BlackBerry huckleberries and ferns

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and stuff all the way down like one hundred and

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fifty yards to the woodline and then over maybe seventy

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five to the opposite woodline.

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And as I stepped off the road to the edge

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of the.

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Of the patch where the huckleberries were, I heard too

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high pitched, two toned, like people say a mechanic bird whistle.

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I can't whistle with like. And I just look and

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I look around, and I don't see nothing. And I

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take a step tore into the going into the patch

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and the huckleberry bushes and the grass like something's walking

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going straight away from me down the hill. So I thought,

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is maybe I walked up on a deer or something.

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And I looked at the huckleberries near me bushes, and

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here's something with what people miss.

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All of the branches on top.

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Where the berries would be were missing, like they were

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neatly clipped off or broken off.

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And I'm looking at this and this is doesn't look right.

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And I hear the whistle again from down at the

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bottom of the hill, and I look in that direction. Yeah,

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about fifty feet in front of me. The grass goes

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open and closed again. But this is going left to

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right on the brow of the little rolling skills as

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it goes down, and it's motioning, and it disappears behind

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a stump with rotten stump's got huckleberrieses have going out.

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And I look at that and I go, maybe I

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stepped on the deer. So I went a little bit

469
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:37.359
further into the patch to look for huckleberries that I

470
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:42.200
could pick, and I noticed at the bushes where there

471
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.759
were not the twigs and stuff that had the berries

472
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.319
on it next to it, there was like a pile

473
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.119
and a scattering of twigs all about the same size.

474
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.519
Maybe a berry on it or maybe a leaf on it.

475
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.920
Later, like in nineteen seventy two, I actually got to

476
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:05.799
observe a female bigfoot picking huckleberries and how she would

477
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.599
break them off and pull off with her lips and

478
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.000
then just drop the twigs.

479
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:16.240
I go. I was able to put that together, and.

480
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:20.400
So I kept picking the blackberries, and every now and

481
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.480
then I see emotion in the grass, and I didn't

482
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.720
think nothing of it. The only thing I could smell

483
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.680
was dirt grass and write huckleberries. And I looked at

484
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.000
my bucket, and I wasn't getting whold. I wasn't getting

485
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:42.039
very picking huckleberries. So I decided I had I was

486
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:46.079
going to make like a cloth or a basket or

487
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.599
something out of my T shirt. So I pulled off

488
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.400
my sweatshirt and I laid it up on the bushes.

489
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.440
Took my T shirt off tidly a knot, so there

490
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.759
was no holes at the arms or sleeves. I had

491
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.880
like a basket. And I went As I went to

492
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.880
put my shirt back out, I'm looking through it, and

493
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.799
the brush right in front of me moves and I

494
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.880
look at it and I get the glimpse of the

495
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.160
right side of like a head, a shoulder, a fat belly,

496
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.319
and a hip going through the brush.

497
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.359
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

498
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.640
And man, I come up and just hold dead still

499
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:46.200
because black, black, shiny hair huckleberry passed. The first thing

500
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:51.680
that comes to my mind is bare like nine ten

501
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:52.559
years old. I go.

502
00:30:54.039 --> 00:31:00.319
Hold still. So I hold still, and I don't smell it. Bear.

503
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.400
I don't hear a bear, I don't see it. And

504
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:08.000
I wait and everything's quiet, Okay, nothing there. So I

505
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.480
go over to the bushes and I put my little

506
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.400
T shirt basketing into the bush and I shake the

507
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.680
and I started getting huckleberries, and I would move along,

508
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.519
and every now and then on the side of my eye,

509
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:28.200
i'd see that motion through the the brush. I catch

510
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:32.759
a glimpse of black hair a body part, but it

511
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.400
was kind of paralleling me and going towards the opposite

512
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:42.640
side of the woods. See nothing, smell nothing. Okay. So

513
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.000
I'm doing this and I'm picking in the black huckleberries

514
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.599
and filling up my bowl, and I'm looking down the.

515
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.799
Path in front of me and it goes.

516
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.000
The path goes over the little hill and into the

517
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.759
woods that I could see under the big.

518
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.240
Evergreen trees, and.

519
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.839
Right at the edge of the wood there's like five

520
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:11.160
small huckerburbs, but I can see the path between them

521
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:12.240
going into the woods.

522
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:14.880
So I get just about.

523
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.440
Twenty feet from that spot and I'm filling up my

524
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.480
bowl and there's the motion.

525
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:25.440
To my left side.

526
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.240
The bushes are open and closing, and this time I

527
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.319
can see the form and it's black.

528
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:32.839
It's on all fours.

529
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.799
I can't make out a distinguishable head, but I can

530
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:36.359
see it's.

531
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.359
Got a head. I get part of it right ear

532
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:39.839
the right side of it.

533
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.960
It's coming from left to right, and it's going towards

534
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:43.359
the woods.

535
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.119
So I just hold still, and I've like.

536
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:50.960
Squatted down, and I changed to a kneeling position, and

537
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:55.480
I checked my bowl and the blast and I look

538
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.400
up looking down this path that goes under the grease,

539
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.279
and I can't see the path.

540
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.440
Underneath the tree.

541
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.079
I go, that's odd because I previously could see underneath it.

542
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.240
And about this time, this black form rocks back into

543
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:17.200
a squatting position and I just freeze and I'm looking

544
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.720
right at it and it's looking at me, and I'm

545
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.759
kneeling down and I left foot down, right, knee down,

546
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:30.480
and I look right at it, maybe twenty faces away,

547
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:37.599
and it's looking at me and I and I kind

548
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.079
of straighten up a little bit and it at the

549
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.519
edge of these five little past it rocks up into

550
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:48.440
a squatting position. I can make out the arms, the belly,

551
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.160
and the head, and it's got the wider in the

552
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.440
back ears on the side flat nose is covered in black.

553
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.519
And I'm looking at that in my mind saying, you've

554
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:01.480
seen that before.

555
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.279
And I look at it and I know.

556
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.079
It's not a bear, and my mind is racing back,

557
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.280
and I keep going back when I was younger. I've

558
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.840
seen this before. I've seen this before. And so I

559
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.840
stand up and I take a step to the right.

560
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.960
The roads up to my right. I'm going to go up,

561
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.760
and I take a step to my right and it

562
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:31.599
stands up. It's standing there on two feet. It's more

563
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.400
of a left profile to you at this time. And

564
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.400
it takes a step forward and stands the ill and

565
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.880
it turns from the waist and it's.

566
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:39.559
Looking right at me.

567
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:45.880
The huckleberry bushes are taller where it's at, and it

568
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.159
comes up to about its hip. I can see it

569
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.159
from the left side of its head all the way

570
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.639
down to its arm, and I'm looking at it. I

571
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.239
see the head. It's got an ear on the left side.

572
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:04.599
It's got a protruding like lantern jaw, and it's got

573
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.199
eyes that can shine. It's got no visible neck. I

574
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.760
see the shoulder. I can see its chest move. It's breathing.

575
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.559
I can see its arm and it's wrist and its

576
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.760
hand is down on the bush. And I'm looking at

577
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.239
this and I'm going my mind is a constant telling me,

578
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:25.159
you've seen this before. And so I'm watching it and

579
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:29.119
it's breathing, and I start looking down the.

580
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.920
Body and I hope this is generated enough.

581
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:38.679
I see nipples and breasts and a big, fat, round belly,

582
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.599
and instantly I feel myself turned red and I look down.

583
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.639
I break contact with it because here I am. I'm

584
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.840
nineteen years old. So that was kind of an awkward,

585
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:55.039
embarrassing moment. And finally I got enough courage to look up,

586
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.119
and I look up at it and it's standing there,

587
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.760
turned a little bit more towards me, and it's smiling,

588
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.440
and it kind of has an expression on its face

589
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.760
like a mom or a woman would get, you know,

590
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.000
whether they a little child's by it got surprised or

591
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.719
I'm embarrassed by their condition. I'm going, this is something different.

592
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:23.599
This isn't you know, a person person? And so as

593
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.039
I watch and I'm watching it, it's standing there watching me,

594
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.280
and I'm and they're watching it.

595
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:31.920
And I have.

596
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:38.119
The bowl of berries in my right hand. I have

597
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.440
a shirt full of berries in my left. So I

598
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.119
take the the sack is and I take that sack

599
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.559
over the over the bowl and put the berries in it,

600
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.320
holding you the bottom of the bowl with my right hand,

601
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.239
and I smoothed it over with my left hand.

602
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.320
I look over at it and I it's smiling at me.

603
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.159
It puts its hand on the bottom of its belly

604
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.840
it's right hand, and it takes its left hand and

605
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.920
the same ocean I did over the top of the bit.

606
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:09.239
It rubs on its.

607
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.719
On its belly, and it dawning on me, this is

608
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.360
some type of a pregnant something that looks like a person.

609
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.960
And I just looking at it, and it just smiles

610
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.119
at you, almost like you know, a beaming first time

611
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.519
pregnant woman would do. And so I go, well, maybe

612
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.239
I should leave. And I'm trying to figure out, well,

613
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.119
what's it doing A different thought didn't occur to you

614
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.000
that maybe because it was pregnant, it might have been hungry,

615
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.440
and maybe it wanted to share some of the buckleberries

616
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.280
with me, which I think I could have done. And

617
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.039
so I start walking away on the edge of the

618
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.280
road and it walks along and it's watching me, and

619
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:58.960
I get to one spot and it looks at me,

620
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.880
and it turns to the right and goes down over

621
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.119
the hill. And as I walked to the edge of

622
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:11.840
the road, it pops into my head the BlackBerry patch

623
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.320
when I was six years old, and then going, Okay,

624
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.239
this is a different bigfoot, and it's obviously it's a

625
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:23.880
pregnant female bigfoot.

626
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:25.800
And I was thinking.

627
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.880
What was going on? And then later through the years

628
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.119
that I reminisceed on this, it became very simple, or

629
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.480
maybe it was something that the bigfoot was allowing me

630
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.719
to finally put together. Really, what would a first time

631
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:50.960
pregnant mom or bigfoot do? They would watch other children,

632
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:55.360
and I believe because I was a child and she

633
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.719
was an expected mom, that she was watching me. And

634
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.360
so that's what it was for me on that day,

635
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.559
was that bigfoot that was that mount Like I said,

636
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:08.719
at Mount Adams Killing Creek.

637
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:15.320
That's incredible. Do you remember anything about the details of

638
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.639
the teeth when it smiled at you.

639
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:26.159
Yes, their teeth are like ours, they are only bigger.

640
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:32.079
They do not have canines like gorillas or chimpanzees or dude,

641
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:40.400
they don't. Their teeth are like ours.

642
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:38.800
Only bigger.

643
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:44.559
I learned in nineteen seventy two where I got to

644
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.320
sit in the huckleberry patch with a family of bigfoot

645
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.920
against next to a mom who was like eight feet

646
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.800
away from me. She opened her mouth and yawned, and

647
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:55.960
then I could count her teeth and see her teeth.

648
00:39:56.599 --> 00:40:00.960
They do not have canine teeth like we would perceived

649
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.840
k nineteeth for it, teeth like girls. And you know

650
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.760
long fact, No, their teeth are like ours. They're just

651
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:08.920
sticker and bigger.

652
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:10.719
Wow.

653
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:19.679
The mitch Townshend in his book describes the teeth of

654
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.920
a bigfoot from bite marks, and what he is describing

655
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.480
in his book is exactly what I saw.

656
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.400
That is very interesting. That's a name that comes up

657
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:33.360
every once in a while.

658
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:36.119
Yes, take it to the bank.

659
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.639
When he puts in that book about their teeth structure,

660
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.400
and like I said, I have seen their mouth up close.

661
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.519
And how he described them, and from the bite marks

662
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:54.000
of their teeth, my observations to what he wrote is

663
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:54.440
a match.

664
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.599
Seeing something at age six is definitely different than seeing

665
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:10.119
something at age nineteen, did sorry age nine? Did that

666
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.679
sighting at a little older? Did that affect you in

667
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.440
a different way than your initial sighting or did you

668
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.880
kind of have the same reaction After I.

669
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:24.280
Had, I felt a confirmation in myself that.

670
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.280
This was the same animal, only a female as to

671
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.679
what I saw when I was younger, and.

672
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:39.360
I had always wanted to see them again because this,

673
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:40.719
to me was a friend.

674
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:44.599
Okay, I know that this wasn't the same one, but

675
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:50.559
it was the same being creature, animal really harmed that

676
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:51.519
I'd seen before.

677
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:58.079
Gotcha, it's extremely interesting, it sounds like. So that was

678
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.239
nineteen sixty nine, and just just a few years after

679
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.480
that than you had an even more.

680
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:12.840
Yes, Yeah, that was let's see, that was okay.

681
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.000
In sixty nine, the day that.

682
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.480
Armstrong landed on the Moon, that I was up at

683
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.440
the same spot, only I was on the other side

684
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:24.159
of the creek.

685
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.119
It's killing creek, and I was fishing.

686
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:32.039
And I'm fishing, you know, and there was birds and

687
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.079
stuff and all of sudden it went quiet, and I hear.

688
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:41.119
That whistle again. But I'm kind of facing the creek.

689
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.719
Off to my right, about thirty feet is this big

690
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.800
dead first nag about four foot across, and I never

691
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.880
thought to look in that direction. And I look around

692
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.320
and I don't see anything. So I go back to fishing.

693
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.440
I catch a fish throat on the bank and back

694
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:03.000
to fishing, and I.

695
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:09.280
Hear like a rock on wood and I turn and I.

696
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:10.880
Look, and I don't see anything.

697
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.440
And again I don't pay attention to a snag and

698
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:16.960
I look and I look and I look, and I

699
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.920
don't see anything. So I go back to fishing, and

700
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:27.480
all of a sudden, dirt, pine cones and rock go

701
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.559
across the ground in front of me and next to

702
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:31.119
my foot.

703
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:34.719
Say go, okay, who's throwing stuff at me?

704
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.039
And I turned a little bit to the right and

705
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.480
I look and I look at the dump that snag

706
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:39.840
around it.

707
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.920
I don't see nothing, and I go, this is, you know,

708
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:46.360
back to fishing.

709
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.280
And I'm back to fishing, and I get pelted again

710
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:55.360
with pebbles, rocks and dirt. At this time it goes

711
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:59.880
across my foot and I know somebody's.

712
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.039
Playing with me or trying to get my attention.

713
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.480
So I turn even more to the right, so the

714
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:10.000
creek is on my left side, killing creek. I'm facing

715
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.440
right as a clear cut areas puckleberries, and there's that

716
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.920
big stump again on my right, and I look and

717
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.599
I don't see nothing. So I go back to fishing,

718
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.239
and about this time, out of my right I see

719
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.760
motion and I look up and there's this sofker sized

720
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.679
rock flying through the air and it hits in the

721
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:37.960
water in front of me, and I go, something, they

722
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.199
threw something at me or something through something. So I

723
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.679
turned to the right, and for some reason, my attention

724
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:51.320
focused on the big snag, and I see the left

725
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:57.679
arm come back, and I uh, so I turn and

726
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.920
look facing directly at the snag.

727
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:03.719
And I see this.

728
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.920
Head and body lean out from the left side, its

729
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:14.280
left side, from towards me on this big dead snag.

730
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.639
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

731
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:38.440
And I'm looking at that, and I go, that's big.

732
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.159
And it puts hicks a side step and it puts

733
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:49.760
both its hands up on this snag and it's kind

734
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.320
of like a bear would sidewalk or on the snag

735
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.719
and I'm looking at this, and I.

736
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.320
Go, you don't fool me. You're not a bear.

737
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:02.599
There's no snout, there's no ears on top of the head. Now,

738
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:06.679
if you remember the old time wrestler Haystat Calhoun, he

739
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:11.079
was six four and six hundred and fifty pounds, this

740
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:16.079
critter is three foot bigger AND's got him by three

741
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:17.000
hundred pounds.

742
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.000
So this is big. And being a at that time

743
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:22.880
a little older, I.

744
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.360
Turn and look at it, and the first thought that

745
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.719
comes to my mind is who is this throwing rocks

746
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.400
at me? And then it dawns on me. That's not clothes,

747
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:40.159
that's hair. It's brown, it's black. It's got some lighter

748
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.360
streakings on the torso it's a male.

749
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.159
I can see that it's not closed.

750
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.840
And this thing, like I said, is about nine foot tall,

751
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:55.199
a good nine hundred pounds, and he's just standing there

752
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.800
looking at me, and I'm standing looking at it, and

753
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.000
it sways a little bit and it goes.

754
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.800
Now I go back at it, and I stand up

755
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:06.480
and look at.

756
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:12.119
It, and it has its right hand up on the

757
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.199
dead snag in it brings its left arm over and

758
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:17.840
crosses over in front of it and puts it on

759
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.480
its left arm, and it'sh standing there looking at me,

760
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.079
and I'm watching.

761
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:26.440
It, and.

762
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.039
I got a pretty good idea of what it is.

763
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.320
It's a male bigfoot, and like, what's he doing there?

764
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.320
And I could see the path. The only thing I

765
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.360
can figure is it was coming down that path to

766
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.360
get maybe get a drink of water. And I was

767
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.079
sitting there in front of it, but it was curious

768
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:44.920
as to what I was and what I was doing.

769
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:46.639
I was fishing.

770
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.719
So I watch it and eventually it kind of rocks.

771
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:52.920
A little bit.

772
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.559
Then from the waist it turns to its left and

773
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.079
then the body turns around and it starts walking away

774
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.320
from me. So I go, I'm going to see this.

775
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.840
I should start walking behind it. I'm not afraid of

776
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.719
I got an idea and I'm pretty sure what it is.

777
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.199
I just walk behind it. And as I walk behind.

778
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:18.760
It, I get to the snag and it stops and

779
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.119
it turns and looks to its left and looks back me.

780
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.679
I stopped the standing side still. I don't tell me,

781
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.079
don't follow it. I'm watching it as it walks away.

782
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.199
I can see the muscles in his back move. I

783
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.519
can see the muscles and his legs move. I can

784
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:40.079
see the bottom of its foot as it comes up,

785
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.119
it comes down on the ground, how the weight transfers.

786
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:44.519
I'm not close to it.

787
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:48.079
I'm maybe thirty five feet behind it, walking a little

788
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.960
bit behind it. And I get to where the stump

789
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.079
the stag is and I look down and I can

790
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.000
see on the ground where it pulled the big rock

791
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.320
out of the ground and threw it at me into

792
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.920
the creek. And there on the ground in the path

793
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:07.679
is about an eighteen to nineteen inch track. About six

794
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.599
feet in front of it is another going straight to

795
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.079
that creature. So I do this was a male bigfoot.

796
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:18.840
And that was on the same day that Neil Armstrong

797
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.760
landed on the Moon. I saw mister Bigfoot up close

798
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.840
and personal. And again I believe I saw it not

799
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.559
by so much by coincident, but because I had seen

800
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:36.280
and interacted with them before. It could have been a coincidence,

801
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.480
or we just happened to be at the same place

802
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:39.360
at the same time.

803
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.199
But I never felt threatened.

804
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:44.599
I felt that the whistle and the rock clock, and

805
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.599
even the throwing the stuff at my foot and the

806
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:49.719
big rocket in the creek, it was trying to get

807
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.679
my attention. It was trying to get me to look

808
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.400
at it. I don't think it was trying to scare

809
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.880
me away. It made no aggressive most it was more

810
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.119
a curious like I'm here, do you see me? But

811
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.360
then it turning walked away. I guess I had occupied

812
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:10.840
its time spend enough.

813
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:19.119
And that was July twenty first, sixty nine. Yeah, okay, yeah,

814
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.320
why do you think you returned the same noise it

815
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:23.039
made to you.

816
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:26.960
Through the.

817
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.920
Years that I've been around him, I've learned that Bigfoot

818
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:34.239
make certain vocalizations, right.

819
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.480
They also make certain noises with rocks and sticks.

820
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.079
Most people that are around Bigfoot don't put two and

821
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:48.280
two together, or haven't heard him make rock clacks, you know,

822
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.440
wooden knocks, or vocalizations, whistles.

823
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:53.280
They don't know what it is.

824
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.000
I've heard it before, I've seen him do it, so

825
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.239
I know in my mind it's like, guys, I can

826
00:50:59.320 --> 00:50:59.960
recognize it.

827
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:06.239
This is what that is. And over the years I've

828
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.239
learned to look and listen for that.

829
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:15.320
I've had them walk along side of me through the woods,

830
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.960
juveniles and adults, And when I'm aware that there's ones there,

831
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.000
it's like I can feel them there there.

832
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:24.920
I hear them there.

833
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:26.639
By the sounds that they make, by the sounds that

834
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:31.239
their foot makes when they're walking. People that say you

835
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.800
can't tell the difference between the deer walking and the bigfoot,

836
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.079
that's other nonsense.

837
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:36.800
You sure can.

838
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.880
A hard cloven hoof makes a different sound hits the

839
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.719
ground as compared to that big, flat, flappy foot of

840
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.360
a bigfoot.

841
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.280
And people say, well, we don't see the tracks.

842
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:57.079
You've got to understand the area of that foot can

843
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:02.400
display seven hundred and fifty pounds of weight per square inch.

844
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:07.599
So you got a fifteen inch track, which is basically

845
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:11.000
a eight foot tall bigfoot that six hundred and fifty pounds.

846
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:16.519
Unless there's snow or soft ground, you're not gonna see

847
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.440
complete tracks because that foot can displace that weight on

848
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:26.639
the ground. It's the makeup of the soil that they're

849
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:27.239
walking on.

850
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.400
I've found tracks that were quite clear.

851
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:36.599
I have found tracks on hard big clay that you

852
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.079
might find a toe print, but if you look in

853
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.320
the general direction, you'll pick up scuff marks. And it's

854
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:47.079
because of that big foot that you don't see a

855
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:48.159
lot of tracks.

856
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.960
Because they can displace that body weight.

857
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.639
You see that there's that progression still as a young

858
00:52:56.239 --> 00:53:00.239
and I still believe it's because of the meeting that

859
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:05.280
one when I was six, that they were there and

860
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.159
maybe this bigfoot was checking up on me like I

861
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:12.800
was a friend. I believe the family, the family's the Bigfoot.

862
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.119
If they see one person, it appears that they all

863
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:23.280
seem to recognize that person, they choose that person to befriend.

864
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.199
And through research and reading a lot of reports and

865
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:32.800
other people's observations, I believe that that is true, that

866
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.840
they'll check up on a friend, see how you're going,

867
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:36.960
what you're doing.

868
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:39.159
That's my belief.

869
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:45.079
That's really interesting was then the next interaction you had

870
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:46.800
with the family.

871
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.000
This was in nineteen seventy two.

872
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:54.960
This one was verified by the BFRO because another people

873
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.079
that were there at that day saw two of the

874
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:00.000
four that I saw.

875
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:03.760
We had went up to Lake Cushman and again this

876
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:04.119
was in.

877
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:09.039
July, the beginning of huckleberry season, and there were four

878
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.320
of us and we got to camp before late in

879
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.280
the afternoon and made camp and fire and it was

880
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.760
getting on towards dark and people were coming in and

881
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:23.440
out of the camps and we were listening and it

882
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:30.280
was dark and we heard this high pitched like hysterical scream,

883
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.159
like a woman screaming and hysteria like everybody just kind

884
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.920
of freezes and looks up the hill, like what on

885
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:38.599
earth is this?

886
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:40.440
And it's followed by a.

887
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:45.639
More like baritone scream waw and then like a child screaming.

888
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.719
And this is going on back and forth, and we're

889
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:51.840
talking there in other camps, they go and they thought

890
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.320
it was kyots, and I go, no, that's that's too loud.

891
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.519
And it doesn't have that yap yap that kyotes do

892
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:03.360
when they're in there howling.

893
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:08.519
And there's other prison well maybe it's a cougar screaming.

894
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:14.719
I go, no, that's not a cougar screaming. It didn't

895
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:18.119
have that wawet a cat in it when the cougar screams.

896
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.880
And I've been out in the woods a lot. My

897
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:22.719
dad had hunting dogs.

898
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:26.440
And they'd hunt bear and cougar and with the dogs

899
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:30.039
and out deer hunting, and I have heard bear noises,

900
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.320
I've heard cougar noises, deer noises, elk noises. Just about

901
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.440
anything that's out there that makes a noise, I've heard it.

902
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:42.360
So this is going on, and people start adding a

903
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:46.000
little extra woodlar fire, and about this time this woman

904
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:49.119
comes in and she says she was walking up and

905
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:53.119
she heard the screams. She says, I thought I saw

906
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:55.559
a mountain gorilla cross the road.

907
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.519
And I look at the people, look at myself.

908
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:05.199
There's no gorillas in Washington State around Lake Cushman. And

909
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.840
she's seeing something. Maybe she saw a bear or something.

910
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:11.440
And so we're all talking. And I told my friends

911
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:13.719
and said, I'm pretty good at hunting track, and I'm

912
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.400
going to get up at the morning in the morning,

913
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.519
and I'm going to walk up the old road up

914
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.880
towards where I heard that sound coming from. So it

915
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:28.199
got first light, and I got dressed, and I was

916
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:35.000
wearing khaki pants and brown sweatshirt and had a hat

917
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:41.079
on and had long brown hair, and so I start

918
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.679
walking up. I crossed this wooden bridge and this is

919
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:48.440
a major Kent site on Lake Cushman, and there's a

920
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.800
little bridge with a rusty gate. And I go across

921
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.440
the bridge to the main road and I start walking

922
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:59.119
up the road and I hadn't gone fifty seventy five

923
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.880
yards down in the gulch, which is stick with ferns

924
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:08.119
and trees and huckleberries, I hear branches breaking.

925
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:09.880
Something's moving below.

926
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:15.760
Me, and I hear it sounds like squirrel chatter them

927
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:20.159
and I just stop because I'd never heard that before.

928
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:21.719
What is that?

929
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.400
And I got I'm on the high ground above it

930
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.920
that I don't They had no idea I was above.

931
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:31.639
Them, and so I listen and I.

932
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:33.960
Hear it move, and I move with it, going up

933
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:38.239
the road, and I keep hearing the chatter, branches breaking

934
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:39.920
and stuff like that, and.

935
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.800
I'm looking at my watch. It's maybe five thirty in

936
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:43.400
the morning.

937
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:48.760
It's light, but I don't see anybody, and I keep

938
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:52.079
walking and it stops. It would break a branch, it

939
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.119
would stop, and I'd walk when it moved.

940
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:59.000
I moved. When it's stopped, I stop, and I keep looking.

941
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:02.039
Down, trying to look down through the trees and the brush,

942
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.159
the ferns, the huckleberrys, to.

943
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:05.599
See what's blown me.

944
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.079
And as I'm coming up, I come to a tree

945
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:13.480
and I stop and I look down and I see

946
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.760
two figures turn around and go down over the hill

947
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:21.440
and I'm looking at it. It's a blonde color phase.

948
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:26.360
It's like a boufont hairstyle from the back, and the

949
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:28.719
other one short comes up to about its waist.

950
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.880
And it goes back down in the gulch and I go,

951
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:33.679
wait a minute.

952
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.119
I know I was the first one out of camp

953
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.400
that morning, and you know by the HAIRSTI I says,

954
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.039
what would a girl be doing out here, a mom

955
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:44.840
and her daughter bush whacking at this time of the morning.

956
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.480
It disappears, and pretty sure I hear the chatter again,

957
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:53.719
and I hear the branches breaking, so I parallel them again.

958
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:55.599
I got the high ground. I'm going to keep the

959
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:56.960
high ground on them.

960
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.599
And as they're coming up almost to the crest of

961
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.960
the of the road, I'm standing there by this tree

962
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:07.320
and I'm looking about seventy to fifty seventy five yards

963
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.440
in front of me, and the shadow moves and I

964
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:13.519
just stand still and hug that tree. And it steps

965
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:15.599
up to the edge of the road. And this thing

966
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:20.880
is nine foot tall. It's black. It is huge, and

967
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.519
my mind goes, I know what that is, no doubt

968
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:25.039
about it.

969
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:26.480
That's a bigfoot.

970
00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:29.400
It turns from the waist, it looks up the right

971
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:31.599
towards me up the road. It turns to the left,

972
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.440
looks down the road. It goes across that road in

973
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.199
two steps ten percent grade thick brush and it goes

974
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:42.280
up that like it's walking on flat ground, and I go, naha,

975
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.639
I know what that is. I've seen that before. That's

976
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:46.360
a big foot.

977
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:51.320
But then I don't know what's on the left side

978
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:51.559
of me.

979
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.519
So I walk a little bit further and I hear

980
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.159
it again, and I go, where's going We to find

981
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:03.039
out If a human steps on a branch or breaks

982
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:06.360
a branch, don't take that next step. So I reach

983
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.119
up and grab this dead branch and I go snap,

984
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.920
and I stand still. Everything blow me stops and I go, okay,

985
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.840
if it's the person, they're gonna take that next step nothing.

986
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:25.800
I go, okay, this is not personal. A little while later,

987
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:31.400
I hear it moving again, so I move and I'm

988
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.719
at this a clearing. It's got stumps and huckleberries in it.

989
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:39.639
It's got old girls huckleberries. And I step off the

990
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.719
road and I sit down on a stump behind like

991
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.360
three little huckleberry bushes, and there's a little four inch

992
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.480
stump next to my left foot, and I just sit

993
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:55.639
down and I'm eating huckleberry, just picking them. It's quiet,

994
01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:02.480
and to my left, about eight ten feet away, this

995
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:07.360
blonde brown arm comes out grabs a hold of the.

996
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:11.360
Huckleberries and pulls it back, and I saw that arm.

997
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.039
That arm was four and a half five foot long,

998
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:20.800
big long hand. Blonde brown hair coloring on the hair

999
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:25.880
looked almost like the bleach color of an Alaskan grizzy,

1000
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:27.840
But there's no grizzly in this bar of the country.

1001
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.920
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1002
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.519
And I'm watching it and it pulls back and I

1003
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:54.800
can see a form just inside the edge of the

1004
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.400
brush line. And I look and I see like a

1005
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:04.760
tan hourglass looking in my direction. I just sit stead

1006
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.320
still and watch. I don't know anything but my eyes,

1007
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.400
and I'm watching it, and pretty soon I pick up

1008
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:19.800
another like an hourglass on its side, mask bah tan colored,

1009
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.519
and I pick up the eyes. They're in front of

1010
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:26.000
whatever that face is. And I'm looking and I can

1011
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:29.400
make an outline of two figures.

1012
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:30.800
It's inside the brush.

1013
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:35.159
So I just sit still, and pretty soon the one

1014
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:38.800
that's a little further away, it turns to its left

1015
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:41.119
and it's on off and it kind of goes over

1016
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.800
the crest of a hill, and I pick up the

1017
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:44.679
back of the head.

1018
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.719
It's blonde colored. There's no neck.

1019
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.639
I can see ears on the side covered in fine air,

1020
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:56.199
and it disappears over the over into the brush, and

1021
01:02:56.199 --> 01:03:02.480
I go, what was that about? Time on the left,

1022
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.320
About eight feet away from me.

1023
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.639
This big animal comes out.

1024
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:12.639
On all fours and sits down eight to ten feet

1025
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:13.239
in front of me.

1026
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.639
I am sitting just behind.

1027
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:18.800
Its right shoulder, like I said, eight to ten feet away,

1028
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.159
and my head comes up to the bottom of its armpit.

1029
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:26.280
And I'm five nine and this thing is sitting down,

1030
01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:31.079
So it's I figure sitting down on the ground. This

1031
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:34.320
thing has to be seven seven and a half foot tall,

1032
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.119
and it's got that Beauffont hairstyle.

1033
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:39.480
There's no visible neck.

1034
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.239
Its head is about twenty inches wide twenty two inches high.

1035
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.840
It's wider in the back than the front, and I

1036
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:49.800
can see its back, its shoulder.

1037
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:53.639
Blades, it's side cheeks, sitting with its feet and legs

1038
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:56.840
kind of pulled up to the right side. It's sitting

1039
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:59.119
on its left cheek, and I can see the feet

1040
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.599
in the legs. I go, I'm gonna just sit still

1041
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:03.480
and watch to.

1042
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:04.440
See what this is.

1043
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:11.960
So I just sit there and I'm watching, and I said,

1044
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.000
I'm wondering if this is the two animals that I

1045
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.760
saw come up the road that was done in the bush,

1046
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.519
that turn and went back down. So as I'm watching,

1047
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:24.400
it straightens out and turns a little bit more to

1048
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.079
the right, looks in my direction, and I don't move

1049
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:27.440
it all.

1050
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:31.199
I just sit still. I think, well, it doesn't know

1051
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:32.199
I'm there.

1052
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:36.880
And again I'm behind its right shoulder, and it turns

1053
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:38.639
a little bit more to the right and it starts

1054
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:44.280
picking the huckleberrys, snap off the trigs, suck them off

1055
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:49.360
off the twig, the berries and the leaves, and there's

1056
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:52.360
that same sucking sounds I'd heard before, and it drops

1057
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.000
those twigs right straight down.

1058
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:56.519
So I go, okay, this is eating.

1059
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.840
And as I'm watching, it runs a little bit more

1060
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.400
to the right and it flips its eyes towards me,

1061
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:06.000
but a little bobby and I just looked out.

1062
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:08.360
I go, is it looking at me?

1063
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.199
And it looks away, and I look at it and

1064
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.400
it looks back, and I look down, and we do

1065
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:16.239
this about five or six times that I figured does

1066
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:20.280
it see me? If I'd looked just past it, I'd

1067
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:23.239
have found the answer to that question. So it turns

1068
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:27.679
a little bit more and it's feeding and then it.

1069
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.280
Turns and looks in my direst Again, I don't look

1070
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:29.639
at it.

1071
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:35.760
I just sit still, and then I go I think

1072
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.519
it knows I'm here. And I remember what Jane Goodall

1073
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:42.719
in her studies with chimp said, Act like you're part

1074
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:43.519
of what's going on.

1075
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:49.280
So I start picking huckleberries and eating.

1076
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:51.599
Them, and I look over and there's the eyeballs looking

1077
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:53.920
right at me, and it kind of looks at me,

1078
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:58.360
and it reaches over and it picks up, picks a

1079
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.599
prig of huckleberry, does the suck them off bit and

1080
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.800
drops it. And I kind of look at it and smile,

1081
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:10.119
and I'm tired. And it stretches and yawns. And when

1082
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.079
it yawns, like I said, I'm eight to ten feet

1083
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.159
off to its side. It opens its mouth and I'm

1084
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.920
looking full into its mouth. I can see its teeth.

1085
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.920
It has a tongue like ours. It's teeth are like ours.

1086
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:29.239
They're bigger, no big long caneides and it's yawns and

1087
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:32.440
I try to cover my face and not yawn, and

1088
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.039
I yawn at it and I go, oh no. Diane

1089
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:40.960
Feinstein says in her studies of mountain gorillas showing your.

1090
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.159
Teeth as a sign of aggression. I go, oop, I

1091
01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:46.440
don't want to do that. I look down. I cover

1092
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:48.079
my face and I.

1093
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:54.159
Yawn again, and I well slip my eyes to the left, and.

1094
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:54.880
There she is.

1095
01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:00.599
She's yawning, covering her mouth, looking at me, and I go, oh,

1096
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.039
my gosh. She knows I'm there, and she's looking at me,

1097
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:07.079
and she's mimicking what I'm doing. And she sits up

1098
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:12.960
and I sit up and I can see it's a female.

1099
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:18.000
It's got breast blonde brown colorformation. And she turned a

1100
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.320
little bit more and she's sitting kind of on the side,

1101
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:23.800
and she's eating, and so I'm eating, and she'd look

1102
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.280
at me, and I'd look at her, and all of

1103
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:28.559
a sudden, she kind of straightens up and she rolls

1104
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:34.039
her eyes up and she looks behind me, and she

1105
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:37.320
buries her teeth and like a grimace, and I go, oh,

1106
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:38.719
is she telling.

1107
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:39.960
Me I'm too close or something.

1108
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:43.199
I just look down and I turn and I looked

1109
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.400
to the right behind me, and across the road, on

1110
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:50.880
the edge of the brush, there's this big black form

1111
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:56.679
like it's sitting there like a stomper. And I should

1112
01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:00.199
have paid attention to it. The male had walked up

1113
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.360
the hill, turned around and come back down and sat

1114
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:07.199
down behind me. And he was there all the time watching,

1115
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:09.599
I found out when I did some tracking later.

1116
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:11.440
So I'm watching her.

1117
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:18.119
And she goes back to feeding and she comes up

1118
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.760
to the left hand to her mouth, and she puts

1119
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:24.520
a bunch of chewed berries and leaves in her left arm,

1120
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:29.279
and she reaches out towards these three clumps of that

1121
01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:32.760
has like a little stump in it, off to her left.

1122
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:35.359
My eyes are right on that hand. I'm watch in

1123
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:39.640
that hand, and as it gets towards the clump, that

1124
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.720
little stump goes over into all four and the hand

1125
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:48.239
comes out and it takes the berries and the two

1126
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:50.960
leaves from the mom's hand and pops it in his mouth.

1127
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.920
And I go, ah, that's a toddler. But it's not

1128
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:58.239
the same one that I saw, And so I'm watching it.

1129
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.479
She does this a couple of times, and I'm just

1130
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.600
sitting there, and I decide I'm gonna sit still and

1131
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:06.239
watch or did the other one go? Because this little

1132
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.279
one is not the same one that I saw. It

1133
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.119
was just a little further over. And so I'm watching

1134
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:17.119
it and I sit there and I take my left

1135
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.199
hand and I put it down on my left knee

1136
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:23.359
next to the bush, and all of a sudden, this

1137
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.359
little doll like face with golf ball sized eyes, a

1138
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.760
little bit of hair on its face, like a crew

1139
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:31.479
cut black.

1140
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:33.960
You could see the skin.

1141
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.800
Color of his belly, and it's under its arm kind

1142
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:39.800
of like a natural tan deer and a pasty white.

1143
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:42.000
It's looking right at me and smiling.

1144
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.000
And it takes its right hand and puts it on

1145
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:46.760
the bush to the right of it, and I go,

1146
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:51.920
it's watching me, and so it pulls it back, and

1147
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:54.039
I pull mine back, and then it takes its left

1148
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:56.720
one puts it over on the brush, and it looks

1149
01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:59.039
at me, and I take my left hand and I

1150
01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.079
do the same back it.

1151
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:03.560
It gets excited, man, you can see the excitement. And

1152
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:05.359
we start doing this.

1153
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:08.159
It sticks its left foot out the one side of

1154
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:08.479
the bush.

1155
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:10.079
I stick my left foot out.

1156
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:12.640
It sticks its right foot out, and I stick my

1157
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.479
right foot out, and I'm aboupulated to die. I'm playing

1158
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:19.800
with whatever this is. And we're mimicking each other, back

1159
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:25.039
and forth, back and forth, and I bent down behind

1160
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.439
the bush. I'm gonna look up, and it drops down

1161
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:29.880
behind the bush, and I look out of the corner

1162
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.479
of my eye, and the mom does the exact same thing,

1163
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.439
and I'm going, are they mimicking me? Are they playing

1164
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:39.079
with me? But occasional this year do the same thing.

1165
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:43.279
So it comes up, he does that, and the sun's

1166
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.119
getting a little brighter. And I got my hat, so

1167
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.159
I go down and I put my hand over the

1168
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.960
brim of the hat baseball hat, and I look up

1169
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:53.359
and I look across. He comes up, but he's doing

1170
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.359
the exact same thing, and I'm trying not to laugh.

1171
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:58.520
I am so excited this.

1172
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:03.119
Little one and I are playing back and forth, and

1173
01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:05.319
it ducks back down.

1174
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:07.760
I ducked down. Mom ducks down.

1175
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:10.800
And I raise up and I point at it. He

1176
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.960
raises up and points back at me, and I go,

1177
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:18.399
this is interesting. So I decided, well, maybe I can

1178
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:19.119
talk to it.

1179
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:22.520
So I very quietly when it come up, and it

1180
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.880
comes up and I point at it and it points at.

1181
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:30.279
Me, and I go very softly, I see you, and

1182
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:33.720
the mom said, and right she whirls around towards me,

1183
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:37.359
throwing dust and dirt and backs up, and I go,

1184
01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:41.039
I stared it. I never thought dawn on me that

1185
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.159
it probably has never heard a human speak that close.

1186
01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:46.680
I think because of my appearance, she thought I was

1187
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:51.840
another juvenile bigfoot. And she backs up and the little

1188
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.680
guy drops on all fours and it lets out a whimper,

1189
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:56.520
and she.

1190
01:11:58.199 --> 01:11:58.439
Tuned.

1191
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.399
He later puts out its hand, palm up towards its mom,

1192
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.640
and I go, I've saw that before and again watching

1193
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.960
Jane Goodall on the Chimps and Diane Bonci. The mom

1194
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.760
reaches out with her left hand and she takes its hand,

1195
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:18.399
and there's some communication back in from more like grunts,

1196
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:22.399
and I take a deep breath, and I said, I'm

1197
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:26.319
gonna try this. The minute she looks back, I reached

1198
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:28.640
my hand out towards her, palm up the.

1199
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.560
Same thing as I see the baby, not going. I'm

1200
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:33.680
gonna hold steal. I'm not gonna make eye contact with her.

1201
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:38.880
She comes up to me on all six She's on

1202
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:43.079
her feet, her knees and her hands coming towards me,

1203
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:46.920
and they have a med tarsal break in their foot

1204
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.079
or joint where you want to call it. And I

1205
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.399
could see the front part of her foot is flat

1206
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:53.800
on the ground, but the back.

1207
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.039
Part and the heels up off the ground. There's that

1208
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:57.359
flex there's that joint.

1209
01:12:57.720 --> 01:12:59.800
And she comes over and I still have my hand,

1210
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.760
and I'm thinking to myself, is this a wise idea?

1211
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:04.840
She could grab me and throw me in the lake

1212
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:10.199
from here. She reaches over and she takes my hand

1213
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.920
in hers. Now, my hand is five inches wide and

1214
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:18.439
nine inches long, and my palm in my hand fits

1215
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:22.079
between the the knuckle of her thumb and the first

1216
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:25.600
finger joint, and her fingers could wrap around and touch

1217
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:29.039
the back of my wrist, and I go, okay. She

1218
01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:32.319
holds my hand and I look at her and I go,

1219
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:35.800
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. And I

1220
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:38.479
take my hand slowly and just put it on my

1221
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:42.560
lap and she's looking at me like, how did you

1222
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:45.760
do to do that? She had just calm, surprised look,

1223
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:51.239
and she backs up and sits down. I just holds

1224
01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:57.640
still and I'm watching her and she reaches out.

1225
01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.640
And the stump is next to my left foot. She

1226
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:00.279
taps on.

1227
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:05.000
It three times, and I go, I think she wants

1228
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:05.560
my attention.

1229
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.680
And I reached down and.

1230
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:10.960
I tap it three times back at her, and she

1231
01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:15.560
comes up on all fours and she looks me right

1232
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:18.039
in the face, and I look her right in the face,

1233
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:23.399
and I figure, I'm looking at a prehistoric human, not

1234
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:27.319
a giant wood ape. This is more human looking, even

1235
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:30.000
though it has ape like behavior and features.

1236
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:31.479
This is a human.

1237
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.640
It's a prehistoric ancestor. It doesn't smell bad. It has

1238
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:38.359
a very expressive face. And she's looking at me right

1239
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.840
in the face. And I look at her and I

1240
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.079
talk to her again. I say again, I'm sorry. I

1241
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:50.600
didn't mean to frighten you. And I figure she's going

1242
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:55.079
to leave, and she sits down almost next to me,

1243
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:57.520
and I'm look at I'm nineteen years old, and I

1244
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.840
am just bought ready to burst.

1245
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.800
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1246
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:23.960
Here's this animal that people say it does not exist.

1247
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.640
It's sitting with an armed length of me. There's a

1248
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:31.840
toddler twelve feet away from me, and it's playing with me.

1249
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:37.239
And I am really trying to stay calm, not jump

1250
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.279
out of my skin with excitement because I am here

1251
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.720
having an up close and personal encounter with a mother

1252
01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:48.720
sasquatch and a toddler. And she sits down and watch me,

1253
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.319
and she starts feeding and I start feeding, and all

1254
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:53.960
of a sudden, the brush with a little one. He

1255
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:56.560
grabs the bus, he goes, he shakes it at me

1256
01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.159
and I grab the bus and I go back at.

1257
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:02.079
Him, and he starts.

1258
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:06.840
We start doing this, playing back and forth, arm leg puss,

1259
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:10.000
this wis this way up down, and the mom sitting

1260
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:11.760
there and she kind of looks over at me and

1261
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.760
rolls her eyes and looks at the little one who

1262
01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:17.479
rolls her eyes and I look at her, go you obnoxious,

1263
01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:20.880
big sister. And we just keep playing like this and

1264
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:24.960
find I get tired, and I said, well, maybe I

1265
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:29.399
should let them go. And I put my arm on

1266
01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:32.600
my elbow, on my knee and my hand in my chin.

1267
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:35.199
The little one does the same thing, and the mom

1268
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:38.840
does the same thing. And she turns from the waist

1269
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:41.319
and she shows me her backside and she crawls away

1270
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:42.960
from me, and I think, okay, she's going to go.

1271
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.479
And she reaches out and she pulls up the youngster

1272
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.159
and she goes over the bank behind this tree, and

1273
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.680
I figure, she's going to put this tree behind me

1274
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:53.680
and go down.

1275
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.520
Or she's going to cut to the right. And as

1276
01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:58.000
she goes over, all sh she comes up.

1277
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.640
She stood up the walk and as she stood stands

1278
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.560
up against eating with a tree. Here comes the bond

1279
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:07.079
head and shoulders across like, well, there's the other one.

1280
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:08.840
It was just over the hill.

1281
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.920
From where it crosses over joins the mom and they

1282
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:15.720
disappeared behind the tree. When they disappeared behind the tree,

1283
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.279
I move on down on like all fours, and I

1284
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:22.079
shoot about twenty feet to my right because there's where

1285
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.000
the trails intersecting. One comes up the road and I

1286
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:30.600
get over there to the edge and I kneel down.

1287
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:34.520
And as I kneeled down, and it's grinding pine cones

1288
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.840
and dirt, and I go, there's something.

1289
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.960
I knock something loose. And I turned and looked to

1290
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:44.399
my left and.

1291
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:52.079
About fifteen feet away five foot tall female blond brown

1292
01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:57.000
as a juvenile female bigfoot, and she just she has

1293
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.000
this look like a bashful little girl, like who you saw?

1294
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:01.960
I mean, I just look at it. And about this time,

1295
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:03.199
off to.

1296
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:06.640
My right, I hear, whoaw this crash goes a tree

1297
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:08.920
and I turn and I look to my right and

1298
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:12.560
I go distraction and I see it. I turned back

1299
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:18.119
to the left and the juvenile pew words run and

1300
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:20.279
takes off, running full tilt down the hill.

1301
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:22.880
And I look over and the male.

1302
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.760
He goes up the bank into the woods, and I go,

1303
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.359
why did he do that? He's been watching me. I

1304
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:35.239
didn't realize, but there were four other people. The other

1305
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.520
people that verified they saw him and the female coming.

1306
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:39.960
Up, and he saw them.

1307
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:42.960
I guess there were too many people around because I

1308
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:46.439
was well within its comfort zone of the mother, the toddler,

1309
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.600
and the other one. And so I turned and I look,

1310
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.520
and this blonde brown streak comes firing off the corner

1311
01:18:54.000 --> 01:19:00.359
running through There's a group of Douglas first saplings ten

1312
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:03.039
twelve foot tall, and she goes through them like a

1313
01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:04.039
D eight cat man.

1314
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:06.159
She goes right through them, and she's.

1315
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:09.960
Jumping and stepping over logs and steps stumps and logs

1316
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:11.279
that we'd have to jump over.

1317
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.319
And she goes down about sixty.

1318
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:16.800
Five yards or seventy yards blow me and stands still

1319
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.159
and turns up and looking at me, and she has

1320
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:23.560
that slope like appearance at the and she's standing there

1321
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.960
looking at me, and I go, Okay, there's and I

1322
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:30.039
watched the juvenile running around and go behind the mom,

1323
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.680
and I'm looking, where's the toddler? Where's the baby? And

1324
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:36.920
I go, did I scare them? Did she lose the baby,

1325
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:39.960
and I'm looking herround. I looked the area that she

1326
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:42.399
ran with the other one ran and I couldn't see nothing.

1327
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:48.359
And she makes a vocalization. I can't hear it, but

1328
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:51.720
I feel like a vibration on me. That's that role

1329
01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:56.800
infra sound line of sight. And so I look at her,

1330
01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.920
and she's looking in my direction but trying to see you.

1331
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:03.039
It's like she's looking below me. And so I come

1332
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:06.640
up to as and I look down ten feet below me.

1333
01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:10.479
About two feet away, there's some huckleberries, and I see

1334
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:15.119
this little butt in the fetal position sticking out from

1335
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:15.600
behind it.

1336
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:17.199
There's the toddler.

1337
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:20.880
It's on the ground and I'm looking at it, and

1338
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:25.239
I kneel down and I say very soft to it,

1339
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:31.399
I can see you, and it jumps up and stands up,

1340
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:34.239
and it's looking to my right across in the direction

1341
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.760
of the mail. It sighs and it's looking around, and

1342
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:41.119
I go, it's looking for its mom, but it's looking

1343
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.560
at me at the other and its.

1344
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:44.760
Mom is straight down below it.

1345
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:46.399
So I take my hand, I put my hand up

1346
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:48.319
and it washes my hand and I make like a

1347
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:52.600
pointer and I point really slowly down at it's mole.

1348
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.359
It pulls its hand up. It makes it like a pointer.

1349
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.399
It turns from the waist, it points and sees it mom.

1350
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.720
It whips you around, and it has this big expression

1351
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:08.399
on its face, like you found my Mommy, I'm chucking

1352
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.159
and I go, hey, I didn't scare you. That was

1353
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:12.760
your dad or whoever that was. It threw down the

1354
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:15.560
tree and growled and it looks at me. But then

1355
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:19.119
it kind of got its nerves too much, and it

1356
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:22.479
ticks off running down the hill and there's a log

1357
01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.760
about twenty feet in front of it. It's about five

1358
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:28.760
foot and the stumping hits it with its left hand

1359
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:30.359
and it bolts it and it comes up.

1360
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.680
Its feet are apart. He running down that hill. Sometimes

1361
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:35.399
he would swing on a branch. It would.

1362
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:38.520
It could teach Marshall and Lynch broken Field running. It

1363
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:43.600
goes down and it's stopped by the mom, and I

1364
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.680
hear the vocalizations again, and it's got its arms up

1365
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:48.720
and the mom touched it, and I can read that

1366
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:49.399
by language.

1367
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:51.359
Mom picked me up. Mom doesn't pick it up.

1368
01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:56.399
And it's there and I'm watching it and like a

1369
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:58.520
toddler holds onto its mom's dress.

1370
01:21:58.600 --> 01:21:59.279
Or pant leg.

1371
01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:03.680
It does that, and it steps in behind it. It's

1372
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:07.880
mom and she's standing there left profile and it's to

1373
01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:11.640
her in front of her, but walking it's behind him,

1374
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:16.560
and I keep watching, and pretty soon it like he

1375
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.279
does tree peak. It peeks out from behind its mom,

1376
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.640
and I point at it and I go, I can

1377
01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:26.680
see you. And it pops back up and I hear

1378
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:32.359
some more vocalizations, and all of a sudden, she turns

1379
01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:35.800
and he turns and he points up the hill at me,

1380
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:43.279
and I hear a definite four syllable vocalization. And I

1381
01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:46.399
discussed it with Scott Taylor, who talks to doctor Johnson,

1382
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:51.119
the vok Uh linguist, and according to what they told

1383
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:56.239
me the native megaicine, what the vocalization basically meant was

1384
01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:00.880
and so it is or so you do, I see you?

1385
01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:05.079
And it was answering back, and so it turns.

1386
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:10.279
And the monitor and it starts walking down the bank

1387
01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:12.640
towards the woods, and I got my right horn and

1388
01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:14.800
by my side, and I just raised my arm and

1389
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:17.720
I waved at it at the two and he's looking

1390
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:21.079
back and like a togther would wag at you, it

1391
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:24.600
weighs back at me and it disappears over the bank,

1392
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:30.479
and I go, all right, I'm gonna do two things.

1393
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.800
I'm gonna walk over to where that tree got thrown

1394
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:35.600
down and see what I can do. And I walk

1395
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:40.000
over there, and this tree was dead, snags thrown down,

1396
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:43.800
it split almost like a twenty five foot tall spear

1397
01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:46.640
is on the ground. And as I walk back towards

1398
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:49.680
the where the stump would be, it smells like someone

1399
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:52.199
we turned an outthouse over and I walk a little

1400
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:57.039
bit farther and there on the ground is two piles

1401
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:01.000
of fresh, steaming poop, and then on one side of

1402
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:04.560
the water drainies on the side of the road a footprint.

1403
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:08.520
On the other side is another footprint the size.

1404
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:08.479
Of a.

1405
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:11.199
Like a football bigger.

1406
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:14.600
The male had been sitting behind me all the time

1407
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:18.239
he got up he threw down that tree. I think

1408
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:22.560
that was a warning, and I looked to see what

1409
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:25.319
he was looking at. From that position, I could see

1410
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:27.520
he rise sitting and as I'm looking over the bank,

1411
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.720
I see the tops of the heads of four people

1412
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:31.239
coming up.

1413
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:35.800
He had seen seen them and did the did.

1414
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:38.520
That one bar for the family, and I talked to

1415
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:40.680
them as we walked back to camp and they said

1416
01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:47.479
they saw him go up the hill to the there

1417
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:52.840
left my right, and the daughter said she saw one

1418
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.319
or two that were like a light brown colored go

1419
01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:57.840
the other way and go, yeah, that's with the other ones.

1420
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:00.960
So we walked out and I them what I'd seen,

1421
01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:03.600
and I got back to my where I can't My

1422
01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:05.840
friends go what did you see? I said, if I

1423
01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:08.960
told you, you wouldn't believe me. But I eventually did tell them,

1424
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:10.640
and that.

1425
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:13.119
Is now that written.

1426
01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:16.239
Indeed, that's the one siding that I get the most

1427
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:21.600
questions about, because like the first one and the other signings,

1428
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:27.079
those were all first time encounters with a bigfoot. The

1429
01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:30.319
later ones I would have in eastern Washington are with

1430
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:34.199
a family of bigfoot that is camped, that live in

1431
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:35.199
the area that we camp at.

1432
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:39.079
Lenn This is absolutely incredible. It's probably one of the

1433
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:43.840
most incredible accounts that I've ever heard. We had talked

1434
01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:47.720
about those pages you have written. You have got to

1435
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:52.600
make this into a book so it's not lost to

1436
01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:54.239
time events.

1437
01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:56.640
No, it took me a while to get all my notes.

1438
01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:58.760
I got took me a while to get all my

1439
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:00.439
notes back together.

1440
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:05.239
I don't type, it's all can written. They're all very

1441
01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:06.960
descript of.

1442
01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:13.479
What I've seen. I have drawings and pictures of glyphs, and.

1443
01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:20.399
They do communicate with you and with others with glyphs.

1444
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:26.000
Also, they make the wood structures glyphs.

1445
01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.600
Some are for you, ones that they leave for you,

1446
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:34.279
you'll know it. Others are between them. Some are art,

1447
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:38.479
some are like a map Tom Cantress's. I shouldn't be

1448
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:41.640
able to read them, oh, extra general ones, but I've

1449
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:44.279
had the ability since I've had that contact with them.

1450
01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:48.079
Too. It's like I'm reading something and it will jump

1451
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:49.560
up off the page. I know what that.

1452
01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:56.760
Means, and it comes from the interacting with the bigfoot.

1453
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:01.479
They choose who they will be friends with. They choose

1454
01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:06.159
who they will show themselves with. Most people that are

1455
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:07.439
out in the words to see a big foot, the

1456
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:09.800
first thing you do is point at scream yell, point

1457
01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:17.159
a gun. Uh, They're gone. Are you talking about habituated bigfoot?

1458
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:22.640
Are a non habituated bigfoot? I've seen both. Looking glassing

1459
01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:26.239
across a canyon, I see this black form by a rock. Okay,

1460
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:29.239
I put the glasses on it. It's an animal sitting there.

1461
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:31.680
I crank it up. I get a little reflection off

1462
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:33.560
my think, it turns and looks at me and stands up.

1463
01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:36.479
It was over a mile away looking at me, and

1464
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:41.319
I was looking at it. That was an not a

1465
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:45.359
habituated bigfoot. They're very, very elusive. They'll see you before

1466
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.159
and they're generally gone. The ones that most people have

1467
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:54.279
encounters with are habituated people. Being habituated to people who

1468
01:27:54.319 --> 01:28:04.039
has both positive and negative consequences. You got to leave

1469
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:07.479
your fear at home. If you show fear, you're going

1470
01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:13.159
to get a negative response from him. I, for the

1471
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:16.840
most tart have just been either sitting down or stop

1472
01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:22.760
walking and then seeing him. One in the Eastern Washington

1473
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:25.479
family that I interact with, Lord's juvenile.

1474
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:28.960
He used to walk along and follow me walking through

1475
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:29.439
the woods.

1476
01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:31.159
Every now and then he'd peek out at me where

1477
01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:34.760
I could see and when I walk in the area

1478
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:37.920
and I'd become aware that he was there. In a

1479
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:43.000
very calm, quiet voice, I would say, come walk with me.

1480
01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:47.399
And after a while he would step out now and

1481
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:52.000
see me, and I would walk along and I would say, hey.

1482
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:55.520
Company, are you there. I've got company again, and.

1483
01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:01.479
I was walking out and eventually he walked up next

1484
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:06.600
to me, and that was a lifetime thing.

1485
01:29:07.279 --> 01:29:08.840
I was going to try and take his picture.

1486
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:12.159
I took my phone up, turned it on, put my

1487
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:14.399
hands in front of my body and turns. And then

1488
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:18.239
I realized, no, that's a defensive thing. And their body

1489
01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:20.239
length that means go away. He backed straight up away

1490
01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:24.840
from me, and a lot of people gotta if you

1491
01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:27.680
see when you gotta learn their body language. You see

1492
01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:31.680
pictures of people describe a bigfoot brings its hands up

1493
01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:33.760
in front of it and kind of like push away,

1494
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:36.560
and then it turns that's go away or I'm gonna leave.

1495
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:43.359
That's that body language. They reach out a palm up

1496
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.520
like mother, just a baby. That's that's a greeting. That's

1497
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:52.720
a comfort thing. Woodlocks are a form of communication. Rock

1498
01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:55.680
clocks are a form of Sometimes you can get away

1499
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.000
with imitating what they do, like I shake a bush

1500
01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.720
and shake a bush back at him, But to keep

1501
01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:05.960
your personal security and responsibility, because as one friend of

1502
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.279
mine found out up there, he heard a bigfoot banging

1503
01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:12.359
rocks back and forth, and he started banging the rocks

1504
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:17.359
and the same thing. Well, I guess in bigfoot culture

1505
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:22.920
he would just he just challenged the big dom male and.

1506
01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:25.680
He said, like in the God, that's the King Kong movie.

1507
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.000
He said he came down that hill towards him, and

1508
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.039
he said, I got on my claw and I was out.

1509
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:31.960
Of there before he got there.

1510
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:35.840
You hear that whaw like a bark, that's some that's

1511
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:38.119
a communication that.

1512
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:41.279
A male will do.

1513
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:45.760
You hear like squirrel chatter, that's generally between a mother

1514
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:49.319
in juvenile I've been up at night and I put

1515
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:52.359
some beans and stuff out on the rock and I

1516
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:58.840
kept hearing like turkey calls. Turkeys don't puck at night,

1517
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:00.720
turkeys are in the tree.

1518
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:02.960
And I got up and went over there. In the morning,

1519
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:03.640
I went over there.

1520
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:08.399
All the beans were gone, There was no feathers, there

1521
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:11.239
was no poop, but a lot of the brush had

1522
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:12.159
been pressed down.

1523
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.840
Okay, And it's like, yeah, they were there.

1524
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:22.199
There's lots of pros and cons about gifting and leaving

1525
01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:23.039
food for them.

1526
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:26.399
I leave food gifts for them. Some they'll take, some

1527
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:27.600
they won't.

1528
01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:34.159
Lynne, I I could talk to you four absolute hours.

1529
01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:37.239
I would love to continue this conversation on a later

1530
01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:38.800
date if possible.

1531
01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:42.319
That's possible. Yeah, they're problem. I'll be gone. I'll be gone,

1532
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:44.039
and yeah, I'll be gone in.

1533
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:47.760
October from like the tenth to the twenty seconds, that's

1534
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:49.800
when I go over hunting, and that's when I go

1535
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:53.000
over and do some work and research with the Bigfoot

1536
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:54.000
family that's over there.

1537
01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:57.560
Yeah, we definitely need to continue this. I feel you

1538
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.800
have probably some of the most detailed information I've ever heard.

1539
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:04.520
But thank you so much for sharing. Okay, you've learned

1540
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.920
so far, and I look forward to chatting with you

1541
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:08.560
at a future date as well.

1542
01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:12.119
Lynn, Okay, I had fun. It's all for to help

1543
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.000
you and others understand Bigfoot.

1544
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:19.319
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1564
01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:25.920
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1565
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:14.720
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1566
01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:18.039
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

1567
01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:21.000
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1568
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:23.720
them the courage to come out. And now it feels

1569
01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:26.840
so bad about it, Who cares what anybody's thinks. I

1570
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:30.119
know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

1571
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:49.479
all I care about. Please let people know, Please let

1572
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1573
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If you ever see.

1574
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:54.399
One of these things, you need to tell.

1575
01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:57.279
Because if you don't, be shame on you. You know,

1576
01:34:58.039 --> 01:35:48.279
shame on you.

1577
01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:52.159
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