Nov. 29, 2024

The Day I Made Contact With Her | Fall Creek, Oregon

TJ, a female listener from Lane County, Oregon, joins Bigfoot Society to share a captivating Bigfoot encounter from her youth. TJ vividly recounts her sighting at age 13 near Fall Creek, describing the creature's appearance and behavior. As they delve...

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Season 1

TJ, a female listener from Lane County, Oregon, joins Bigfoot Society to share a captivating Bigfoot encounter from her youth. TJ vividly recounts her sighting at age 13 near Fall Creek, describing the creature's appearance and behavior. As they delve into TJ's story, they also touch on intriguing family anecdotes, including TJ’s grandfather's mining days near the famous Patterson-Gimlin film site. Dive into this detailed and compelling episode that offers a unique glimpse into Bigfoot encounters in Oregon.

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Three two one, all right, Big for Society got the

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privilege of talking to TJ today. TJ's a listener that

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reached out to me through email. TJ's from the Lane

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County area of Oregon. Specifically, we could say about thirty

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miles away from Oakridge, so that gives us a kind

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of an area of what we're looking at here. BUTJ,

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thank you for coming on the show today.

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Happy to be here. Thank you so much for having

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me on.

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Absolutely so, I think there's going to be some really

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interesting things that are talked about today. Just in the

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pre interview, you brought up some stuff that just blew

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my mind. But let's start with what you reached out

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to me about first, which is the sighting you had

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when you were a much younger individual.

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Correct, yes, I was thirteen, it's scient. Yeah.

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Is there anything that listeners would also need to know

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about you? Or is what I said enough for people

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to know? Do you think.

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Just about that? If I starter or can't find me

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and I am a three crime search survivors, give be

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patient with me here.

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Absolutely, Yeah, that's great.

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Yeah. So anyway, so I was about thirteen years old,

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lived in Fell Creek and we are real up on

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the farm and we had were specifically we raised rabbits

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for a friar. That's why we made our money for

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My dad was a robber palmer pretty much for they said,

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and we've put so rabid back then needs to sell

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robbers like chickens, server food. And we had about fifteen

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hundred rabbits and but we go barn and we had

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goats and all that things, and so we had it

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found the country. So we had cottle fields all the

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way around us. And we had a house. And then

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about hundred twenty thirty feet from the palace is the

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barn back behind us, and then we had a big

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old trail we went, say the cow fields. About one

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hundred hundred one hundred yards or so from the barn

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was the actual Fall Creek. So I would go back

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there as a kid and just wander around in the

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woods back there, and all the buses and saints about

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the creek. And our favorite thing you was to hunt

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for special rocks and things. Back then sevaguinea stones which

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for or anything at a quarts or anything like that.

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And now we can use big rocks to crash open

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and open the smaller rocks. I doing that one day

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and as big a rock and smashing the rock, and

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was about probably about fifteen twenty minutes I was doing this,

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and all funny, hear this hacking of a sound three

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behind me to the left, and to figure out it's

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the same sound I was making the cracking the rocks together.

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I thought, what the heck is going on here? I

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thought maybe and we have river others out this. I

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thought maybe the river roads were eating the river crams

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kind of thing, because they use rocks crack over the clams,

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and I thought the three advice an' like that. So

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I sat there, just steal from a minute, and his

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rock and cracked against another rock against the sea, and

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it happened again, and a little bit louder this time. Okay,

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And so reason then alten that big rock fans flying

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by me and had been in the creature in front

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of me. So I freaked out a little bit and

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to shat there and about, and now I find you.

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I'm a comboy, I'm I'm not a further afraid of

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montskret from me. I think I was raising in any

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raising any farmland. And it was three minutes. So I

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wasn't really afraid of much, because I said a lot

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of time in the woods and except out in the creek.

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But a little bit about ankle means Catholic deep. And

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I sat there and I leaned forward to look around

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the brushes, and I see this about five foot tall,

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or so I was five foot fight I at least

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I say five foot because about saying I as I was,

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And so I thought five foot tall, and I'm not

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going to have this thing as I'm now. But back

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up a little bit. We had in Falt Creek in

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the hills. We have these people. They're called the mountain people,

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and then we called that's what we called them. They're

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just people that have gone and lived in mountains, just

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regular people that would go into mountains and live and

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they would throw their hair long and all the stuff

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and just be this kind of you know, very it's

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kind of you know, and so if they couldn't afford

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to living in a home or whatever, I thought that's

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what this was. So I sat there and said hi.

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I was like, that's how my mom rated me. You

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next to me, So I said hi, and this kind

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of thing. The thing looked at me and he said

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it didn't say anything, but he I think, actually I

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think it was a shee because it had had feminine

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pieces on the face and it was it didn't look

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it looked like the person and it had and it

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was had longest reddish hair and long hair, curly long,

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curly hair. And it's nothing like I've seen portrayed in

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the videos I've seen ever and nothing. It looks for

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nothing like I've seen. And it looked like a person,

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but not a person. So I knew it wasn't a person,

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but it couldn't decide, so I was kind of conflicted,

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and so then I said hi, and the same kind

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of smirk, kind of half a mile. So I think

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it might have been a younger one. You know, it

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was only five foot tall, so I think I can't

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imagine what age it was, but I'm sure it was

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a younger one. But I didn't know then. I s

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I was like I said, if I was a mountain person,

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and I didn't even.

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Think about it.

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So then I just sat there, and it pays anything

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to me, but walks together in front of himself herself.

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So I croughed my walks, and again he said, oh

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to And so I found one that was really pretty

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that wasn't like a gem story. I found one was

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ready pretty and set it away from me to get

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it for her. And she didn't get clothes to step

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back a little bit of she prayed to me, and

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I thought, okay, I'm still thinking my mind that this

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is a mountain person. I just couldn't get that out

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of my head. I now know today that was probably

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a sasquatch. Ended the sasquatch, because and now I know

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what I saw, I know, And so I said the

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rocket there towards her, and she stopt back away from

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me like she afrayed us. Okay, gods, I it's just

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when I leave them to grabbing, he cab yourself, talk

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to yourself, she said. She didn't say thanks, sorry, came

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like a conversation, but the fellow grabbing called station. I

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got up a little bit again, and then I made

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for you guys my rock so I had rest for myself,

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and I said, you have a good game and I'll

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see you later. Because I was inside, it was scary

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because I was sure what you can do or what

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mom got were close forever, and because I didn't know,

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I didn't, so I locked my rocks together. I had

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my little pouch and I got fully back to way

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and making eye content whole time. And I saw it

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back way and it walked fully through the wood to

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the clearing and I ran my butts in the house

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because I didn't, and I got in my room at

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my house. I got my room just I had that

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breathe for a while. Okay, not sure why I saw

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what I saw, but I think it was that person

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that was scary because I was a thirteen year old kid.

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You're not especially any people I think you're lonely, live

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on loan on this property. You think you're lonely, I'll

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think you see anybody in the works with you. So

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that's how that hope went out.

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That is absolutely fascinating. So I'm gonna say a few

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things back to you. So it was a five foot

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tall long curly hair. Now was the curly hair just

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on top of the head or was it all curly

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hair that was covered we're.

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Coming off the head, yes, And then high was a

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sworder and but it was all blondish colored with like

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don I think in myself now that I wanted for

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tack it down by no kind of because you really

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liked blonde. It was almost white, but there was a

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redstaurant streaks to it though too. But yeah, it was

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mostly off. The top of the head was wrong. The

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head was the conco and there was a round. I

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think that's why I was a person because I'm around

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around their head. And the face was not a black

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at always walk a person's. They had a bigger nose,

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bigger stock, your greater nose that'smissed down a little bittle bit.

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And then I got a wider mouth and this but

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with a red lips like a prison. So yeah, I'm

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not sure what I mean now I know now cl

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I was a junosqu.

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I remember, did you notice anything about the eyes in particular?

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They were but that's I think that's why I thought

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it was female, because they were more rounder and more

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feminine looking, and they're dark town of black, and they're

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dark brown. I had really long eyelashes, Like I thought

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she was this there was not. I was not twenty

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twenty twenty five feet away from me, very close. So

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I was like and now thinking to myself, what the

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hell is that? But didn't know then I thought it

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was perfect. I thought it was worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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And I know that I went and got in trouble.

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Mom and Dad, there was a person in the woods

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with me, and I got in trouble quick for myself

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a kid.

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We wouldn't want that. Were there any white, any white

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parts to the eyes at all? You said it was

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a darker eye.

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Yeah, it was that their eyes were really round and big,

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and and I didn't know if there was any white

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to the eyes, and that she did look around, but

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I didn't really. Maybe I'm not remembering correct because it's

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been fifty three years ago, four years ago, not fifty

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forty four years ago, So I don't know's I can't

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remember really if there was me white and then the

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eyes were big and black, but they were really more

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more round and more and more the old corners that

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came out woman's eye. So I thought she from a

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woman a girl because said more feminine looking eyes, more

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stand out on the corners, company and a big long eyelashes.

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Yeah, and this happened. It sounds like in the in

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nineteen eighty ish.

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Eighty eight, okay, no, eighty three, eighty three, sorry, eighty thirteen,

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I suppose, yeah, got it.

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Did you notice anything about the length of the arms

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or the hands at all?

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Yeah, that's one things that I didn't notice that I

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couldn't really I didn't see her whole valley because she's

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leaning out. But yeah, I seen you seemed that I

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had longer, longer arms, and I didn't know how kid things,

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I thought, And that's crazy. And if I lived in

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the wood when all my hair growing right back too,

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and I thought, I never thinking that to myself. It

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was like, oh wow, my arms, and I was crazy,

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but I didn't know it all Laine much. But I'm

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pretty sure now that I think that. Yeah, the lanky

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and kind of spin leak.

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Yeah, were there air? Sorry, were their ears visible?

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No, I couldn't see your ears because their hair was

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so long. Come out the top of her head, and

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it's almost like they weren't like ringless coming out, but

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it's just long and wavy, curly come off on top

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of her head. And at first I could spend it

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better for you, but and then the hair went down

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the back like that I could see. I only saw

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in front of her backet looks like here when they

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down in the back, But then there's some hairs going

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hanging down in front of her face as well. I

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can It was up, I would say, from the eyebrow,

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from the from the forehead coming down. I think the

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hair I'm coming off her head was like agents and

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that's really oh wow. Yes, yeah, we're actually very pretty.

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And that's not the reason if I was saying, because

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she had long pretty hair. So yeah, craziness.

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So it sounds like the entire entire subject was covered

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in hair. Would you were you able to see anything

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like muscles or any other features under the hair at

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any time?

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Yeah? Yeah, her hair, her hair was not long over

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and mostly ill her head like I said, but hair

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on the legs and eyes were shorter but against like

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blonde hair. And then I could see her calf her,

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I mean her legs leaned out. I see her calf

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muscles were cuge, but like I said, against Stingley, very cute. Yeah,

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very muscular also and arm muffle. I couldn't see because

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you said that were back and leaning forwards unless I

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was a left left foot calf and then I didn't.

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And because I was, because I got s getting around,

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I didn't think about looking for a printer name because

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I was just gagging back out there. Sure, kidnap a

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mountain person exactly.

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You mentioned already that the mouth was pretty wide. The

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area above the upper lip but below the bottom of

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the nose is called the phil trump. Did you notice

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anything particular about that, like how long that length would

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have been? Was it longer than a humans would be,

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et cetera?

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A little bit? And her face was longer period than

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a person's of course not. This is I'm coming to

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this now. Looking back now, I think about these things,

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and I think her face a little bit longer than

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a person's parts the nose, the upper lips. I guess

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it was a little bit longer. I wouldn't say it

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was like overly long, but I guess I didn't know

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all that much except the same three years ago. But

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I think I get lost in oh goody, But yeah,

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I think I don't think it was not much longer,

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A little bit longer, not much. But she had, like

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I said, regular lips, and she she was longer to

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let you judged you out forward a little bit. I

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remember that part too, And she had about an inch

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tattoo and strong beard hair off. She sure that's why

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it competing thought he was a female. I mean, it's

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got beard.

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How long again, do you think you had a time

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frame of actually looking at it?

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I would say, between me saying hi and me getting

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it out and backing up and go in this black

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and woods, I think about maybe it's that's pretty actually

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from my hearing, I've been long encounter by about maybe

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two minutes, three minutes. Maybe yeah, it's greet Yeah, because

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we said, sat there for a while and just judged

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each other. And she can smirch her a half now,

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not no tea showing, but her mouth went up. But guy,

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she's saying high back of me kind of thing. It

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was really for people kind of get serious that time

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was and then again as I was the person on them,

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so I thought, okay, now I did think it was

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personally because I probably wasn't even more freaked out if

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I know it, squirt, No, it's just like I said

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that pulls mouth smirk because all shamy.

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Got it, got it?

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Yeah?

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And did you smell anything? Oh?

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Yes, that's right. I thought we have tons of grown

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clue stuff out there, and I thought I smell sc

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like I'm smell different. That's weird. And so I didn't

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offense because we smell scirgl some all time, so I

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didn't think and I didn't have blued off the name

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think about it, but yeah, we have the smelest you know.

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And then they thinking back on actually I was back

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home and then think about that, I can I smell terrible?

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What what was up?

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So?

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Yeah, it was terrible. It was like a like a

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dog poob you're in dead meat? Ye yeah, yucky pigs for.

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Society will be right back after these messages. Were there

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any other sounds that you heard it make at all?

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Oh?

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Yeah, she kind of did this suck though, just kind

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of I thought she kind of I told that when

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she made kind of it like she's trying to say

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or I'm not sure that's what she's tried you. But

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she just m and she did it quite freakily, just

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a little tiny just grudged. That's oh God. And that's

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the reasonhy I didn't think she was that's not reas

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why I didn't think she was very aggressive. And she

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was just acknowledged me. I think there's this acknowledgment high here.

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I am bubbles here working, look at each other, king,

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I'm looking at you.

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You could be okay, well, okay, what would you say

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that the number one thing would be that told you

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that you were looking at a Sasquatch and not one

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of these mountain people of Fall Creek.

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Back then, I didn't think any a different mountain person.

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But now that I'm thinking back and looking, I'm thinking myself.

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Now I'm thinking it would see this stance, the way

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she stood and being forward and not like a person

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would stand. That got upright kind of back in versonal

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stand was was I play with a person will stand?

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And that and the longer hair, all that hair, and

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the way her face was shaped so it was not

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personal shape, the jutted out chin and that the big

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er foreheads and things like that, and just I have

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to see all the other examples of not necessarily not

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just give me, I'm sorry, not necessarily the Patty footage.

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But seems nothing like Buddy. It's very a lot lighter skinned.

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And I won't say it wasn't light skin like white

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people skin, but I think it was more like a

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darker tan skin. And then and then I know, I know,

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I think that's noe reason. I think I thought maybe

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she's more like a person because she just looked she

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had testing not anything else.

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Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, it sounded like you were able

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to see I'm just going to say, see her move around.

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Did you notice out of the ordinary about the way

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that it was walking or the gate of it as

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it walked around.

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I didn't really walk around. She stayed there. Froze it

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with me for those streamingutes, because yeah, she didn't really

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walk around. She was there, and they want befriend the

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moods we could stay together and didn't really other than

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me say, hid her grunting her the things she did,

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And then I felt she didn't really move much other

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than that so other than the leaning forward is just

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over see me. That's pretty much all she did. And

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there was no really walk in movie.

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Anything, So yeah, gotcha. It reminded me, howsy the encounter

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ended again?

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Oh, I stooped up my rocks. I left the rock

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for her, because I said, were you go, here's rock.

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You can have one of my rocks. It was pretty

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rock with anything, especially al fars pretty. So I gave

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her one of my rocks and laid on the bank

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next to me. You can have this one. And I

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got it up my little rock for my pouch, and

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I had spot with me and I backed away. Give

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me eye contract, But there's sure what's gonna happen? Then?

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And I was scared, not scared. It's just an easy,

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not really scared. It's an easy. That was some shree

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And so I backed up in the woods and then

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and backed up and walked fully fully back to the

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clearing up behind my house, and then ran the house

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and run my room.

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Gotcha. You mentioned before that the area you were living

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at was a rabbit farm with about fifteen hundred rabbits. Yeah,

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did you guys ever encounter do you think any of

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these coming close to where the rabbits are or was that?

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Did you ever notice anything weird happening around the house.

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The only thing we ever and again we saw it

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was just regular sure what what that was, but we

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would we had gays. At one point we stopped coming

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gates because they kept getting missing and we'd hear the

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gates and I'm honking not crazy, freaking out and then

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we get to say we have a gift missing and

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then but they never really bother at the rabbit Brown,

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which I'm surprised because I figured they would be in

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there and my dad would have a mineer pile back

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up the front that we would have the revenue because

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we sold that to for Furtilizer for gardens and they

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have a number high pile and you noticed that there's

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people there was some day digging in it all times.

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So I didn't know what it was. But the back

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then we didn't have the cameras we'd put out or nothing,

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but they would talk some respect then. But so he

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just was someday digging the renewal pile. So I don't

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know if they were idiots hurt taking it first, I

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know what they were taking it for. But even if

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it was that tecon It, I know, but Sary was

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digging in the moon New pile all times. If we

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knew and that and the gift Nissine, and we never

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I never Brook I said, we never thought to look

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for any kind of friends or anything because we know

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they exist out there, because this is not like in town.

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But it's not. It's out of the country, yes, but

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it's not like in the actual force or anything. It's

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like we have Ne's the Creek and it's you know,

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Oakridge's hope it's done in it for us kind of

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but down we go down for there. You probably drove

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past Fall Creek when you drove up to Okridge, So

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I took I.

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Took fifty eight down from Eugene, so I would have

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been driving through Dexter. But I didn't go up on

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that Jasper Lull Road or whatever it's called.

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Not throat I lived on. Was that Fual Road?

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Okay?

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Back then? Yeah, yep, so you know what's that?

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Yeah, I'm it might be an area I need to

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check out next time I go out there, for sure.

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There's so many different things I could check out. Were

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you saying.

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Right?

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Were you saying that? How many times have you shared

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this story before.

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This one other time. Oh wow, okay, so my best

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friend to my best friend, I didn't find my family

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or anything about because by the back then I thought

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I was in trouble for being by the creek by myself.

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I talked to a lot of people when I was

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at that festival in Oakridge about sightings in the area,

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and there were more than a few of them that said,

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I had something happen over by Fall Creek or by Windberry.

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Oh okay, no, that's good.

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Growing up, did you ever hear any other things happening

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in this area as well?

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Never?

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No, never, wow, not there No, extremely interesting.

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It's just such a stigument. It's more so than there

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is now. You've just got crazy. If you back then,

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if you thought, if you thought it.

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Was sasquatted something else, something that got mentioned to me

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in passing at that festival. They said that there was

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actually a study that was done, I want to say,

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in the seventies in that area about the was it

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wild Man of Windbury. I don't know if I'm saying that,

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but oh well, I don't know if any listeners have

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any info about that. But it was just an in

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passing thing that I heard one of the larger universities

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out there.

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Yeah, I was born and raised out there, and I

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heard anything about that guy, So.

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I know, yeah, any other just asking passing any other

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things you've heard about Bigfoot in that area of where

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east of Eugene, down in Fall Creek or even down

462
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:52.000
to Oakridge, that whole area.

463
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:57.160
Yeah, And that's the funny thing is my cousins were

464
00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:01.079
raising Oakridge. They went from Bursford. This is one of

465
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.680
us hopes that was there. And I asked one of them,

466
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:06.640
one that lives here in town by me, and asked

467
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:08.799
if people have seen anything out there? But I like

468
00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:11.240
this when he said nope, never And so I said,

469
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:12.960
awesome street because I know they spent a lot of

470
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.599
time in the woods and the boys they have there's

471
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.680
four three boys and four girls and they all spend

472
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.759
all the time there all time, boys like me, and

473
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:24.839
so the girls were anyway and that, Yeah, they said

474
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.279
they never saw anything. Any sad question, there's nothing, which

475
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.319
I thought was maybe they had not taught me the truth.

476
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:32.039
You never know that.

477
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.039
That's because they don't know what for either.

478
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:41.279
There's a lot of people where I would talk to

479
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.440
them and it took them a while to open up,

480
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.359
which is is understandable, but yes, that that happens sometimes

481
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.079
where it takes people a while to open up. Now,

482
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.640
you had mentioned something really interesting in the pre interview

483
00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:59.480
that came up, and I was actually, oh, let's talk

484
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.599
about that later because this sounds pretty wild. And it

485
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:07.279
was a story about your grandfather. Uh huh do you

486
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:07.960
mind sharing that?

487
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:12.559
Yeah, yeah, I kind of tell the investor's soul. He

488
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.319
was the best guy. He's just closely nice and some

489
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.319
a lot. He he used to be a minor down

490
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.599
in They lived in Happy It was called Happy Camp.

491
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.759
It's gone by Hoopoc, California, And so they lived in

492
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:27.960
Hats Camp on the roset vers there and he and

493
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.039
the group of guys were miners down there they Minds Creek,

494
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.039
and he had told story to me allegedly that he

495
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.480
and his buddies were miney on the side of the

496
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.920
creek when passing them and filmed their partty and and

497
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.960
I didn't never realize what that was until these days

498
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:50.839
now I see them filmal partty and like what back

499
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.319
that I never saw those contacts. We've been watching all

500
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:56.240
TV back then. We have a TV backen because that's

501
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:01.119
how old I am. Yeah, yeah, it's so, and so

502
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.000
I thought that was cool and so he I never

503
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:05.720
thought he was crazy or anything that I thought that

504
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:09.240
was pretty interesting. And my uncle had confirmed that he

505
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.079
has told us for him as a kid as well,

506
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.640
so that was his son, and so I thought, I

507
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.359
tell him you to think, I said, he has no

508
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:18.960
reason why me. He his grundaughter. So but yeah, and

509
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.079
he just didn't say a whole lot about it than

510
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.440
he heard the whoop and the cleaning it while they're running,

511
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:25.839
and they looked over and they saw Paris of Gumman

512
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:28.799
had this on their horses, and then they saw their

513
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:31.480
film from looking across the creaking they saw and then

514
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:33.480
he looked over and said, oh my gosh, that's what

515
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:34.960
they say. He didn't know what it was. And then

516
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:36.920
after then the news came out and I was saying that,

517
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:40.119
I thought, then he knew what it was the chastcars

518
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.960
they saw. So that's cool, my my klind of fame.

519
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.440
So absolutely. So this is where it gets really interesting

520
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.319
because I want to clarify a few things because the

521
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:53.279
Patterson Gillen film does not have sound to it, right,

522
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.519
you've always seen it, There's no sound However, what you're

523
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:01.960
saying is that your grandfather was mining in an area

524
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.240
that was close to where the filming was happening, and

525
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.200
they heard a scream.

526
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:13.799
Scream, I heard the killments hollering you the carol here

527
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.680
was older, and then heard the craft and apparently that

528
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.319
was when Patterson fell, because they they fell up. Yeah,

529
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:24.960
and so he grassing and then he has are you okay?

530
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.960
And there's all that kind of stuff and things got that,

531
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.240
and then he looked and then that when he looked

532
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.079
over on the other side kick and saw Patty, he said,

533
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.039
if they hitched off on the back, So if you

534
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.079
look at Patty Chilm, she's looking directly at the camera,

535
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.000
and then grandfather would be down downstream to left, but

536
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.559
then he left more down probably.

537
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:50.160
Yea, my goodness. So you're saying, so they didn't hear

538
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.599
like a bigfoot scream, but they did hear Patterson and

539
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:59.519
Camlin yelling at each other. Hey yeah and yes, okay, okay.

540
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.000
Are you all also saying that your grandfather looked over

541
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.480
and saw Patty as well? Yeah, yeah he did, oh

542
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.920
my goodness, but from a different viewpoint.

543
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.519
And my grandma didn't believe him, and so my Grandma's like,

544
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.359
I'll stop telling that for it. And here's a really

545
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.839
crappy part. Jeremiah said, my grandfather, my grandmother there away

546
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.119
all his pictures and all the stories when she's when

547
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.079
he died, she was all craps. I know, Yeah, my

548
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.039
grandmother was very nice.

549
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.640
Kind of things did she throw away?

550
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.839
There's just a story the journal he had, cat tells

551
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.079
about minding and things like that, things he saw and

552
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.559
stuff like that. But then he sees her all the way,

553
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.920
not just because not just we pushed all that and

554
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.440
she's just journaling and things like that. There were some

555
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.920
pictures of him in the game, and I would try

556
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.039
to pictures to see if there's anything in the background,

557
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.680
to see if there's anything there to see, because guys,

558
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.960
we're hearing now that they saw a couple other ones

559
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:05.079
back in the background in the woods behind Patty from wondering. Now,

560
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.480
if I had those pictures, I could see see if

561
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.039
there was anything in background those pictures that there's any

562
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.200
other question, that's pictures he had that area, and think

563
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.279
so and I remember being in there your ard things

564
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.599
because Happy Camp is very proaway from Love Creek at all.

565
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.680
I'm sure I'm sure they were in her their house

566
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.519
as well. I'm sure they used to go down there

567
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.119
and visit with them all the time, about drive from

568
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:29.680
where they lived.

569
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.960
Yeah, that's incredible. Oh my goodness. So even if there

570
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.519
was something that would have proved that your grandfather was there,

571
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:41.319
it was thrown away when your grandmother cleaned house.

572
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:47.240
Nick. See, my grandmother was one of those studies that

573
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.880
just did did her duty by the man she was with.

574
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.559
And and then once and they're gone. That's what they

575
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:58.400
did back because they they born in one and anasing team.

576
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:01.640
So they like, that's just what they did back then.

577
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:03.279
As we're gone, he's gone.

578
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.640
What an incredible story. That's part of that story. Did

579
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.759
your grandfather ever describe Patty in all at all or

580
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:12.359
what he saw or anything like that.

581
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.400
I don't remember. He only never described much of anything.

582
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.799
I think scared to say anything about it at all

583
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:22.839
because he told my cousin and I when we were

584
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.119
alone with him, and because he's afraid of my grandma

585
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.640
walking and said, I was shut up that.

586
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:52.599
Big for society will be right back after these messages. Okay, yeah, yeah,

587
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.079
scared my grandpa.

588
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.799
Yeah I'm not comfort Oh yeah, she want for sure

589
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.759
my grandpa. He's the sweet guy though, But my cousin

590
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.400
I was he hitn't down the flap, and he did

591
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.880
tell stories at the stories at all kinds of different ways,

592
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.519
and I should miss that guy. He's fun, he's fun.

593
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:12.400
It's a good grandpa.

594
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.400
He sounds like he had probably the best stories.

595
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.119
Just one of those gosh, yeah yeah, And I don't

596
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.400
matter what they matter? What what he told you that

597
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:28.000
we were on his kneels? What? Absolutely wow, he's great.

598
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.599
Yeah, incredible. And then how crazy is it that he

599
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.000
had to he was part of that famous sighting and

600
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:39.480
then you about less than twenty years later, have your own.

601
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:40.960
It's wild.

602
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:47.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really wish. No, I don't know

603
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.200
if I wish now that I knew or not, And

604
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.559
I better live in hindsight. I'm not sure. But if

605
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.920
I knew, if I had known, if that was as

606
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.680
I'm not sure how it would have felt if after

607
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.440
that my grandparent had told our stories about that. So

608
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.240
I didn't know, you know whatever, So I didn't know.

609
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.200
I think being cofort in my story for Grandpa, I

610
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.000
didn't know because, like I said, if he loves nothing

611
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.720
that Patty, it's totally different, different face shape different, longer,

612
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.319
little blond hair. So that's why to this day, I

613
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.319
believe that there's different species of that big I think

614
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.279
there's different types. I believe that now because we constant

615
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.920
to having long long hair and did different face shape

616
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.880
got posed to these morest quadier black hair, short hair,

617
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.920
and they more quishy short face like that. I don't know.

618
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.440
I really believe that there has to be just like animals,

619
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.799
I guess, and a dog casting though the same same

620
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.920
species that just different breeds kind of thing. That's the

621
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.440
case with catchwash too.

622
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:59.279
Just a double check, just a double check. As part

623
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.240
of the story, you're grandma, You're sorry your grandfather would

624
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.400
share with you. Was there. Did he ever say anything

625
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.000
like yeah, afterwards we went over and talked to Roger

626
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.720
and Bob or like we would talk to him afterwards,

627
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.000
we had any sort of interaction with him.

628
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.240
No, I think it happened so quick. And like I said,

629
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:18.680
they were on the crew. I think they were on

630
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.920
a time link. I'm not sure what it was, but

631
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.319
they had a crew off all kind of stuff for

632
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.319
the back then. They because the actual business and mining

633
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.599
businesses back then. If my grandpa worked for so that's

634
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.720
it wasn't just. It just wasn't just. How do you

635
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:33.799
think it was like a job?

636
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.160
Oh yeah, exactly?

637
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he I think he they've heard

638
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.759
the home heard the I'll watch what happened everything like that.

639
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.240
And then he didn't say they talked for anything like

640
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.400
that or I don't know if his mom boss sorry

641
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:50.519
did that.

642
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:53.000
That's funny.

643
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.039
When talked about I don't know about that, but they.

644
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:02.440
Didn't know what if what absolutely fascinating story that alone

645
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.759
could be just I could put you down a rabbit

646
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.559
hole to try to do you think I know, yeah,

647
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.000
you're like, I've been doing it. So you did mention though?

648
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:12.480
That was it?

649
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:16.159
Your uncle was the one that would talk to him

650
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:16.760
a lot about it.

651
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:23.719
Yeah, it was sip Son so yeah actually son, so yeah,

652
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:24.559
they grow with him.

653
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:29.800
Yeah, okay, is that individual with us anymore or not?

654
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.000
I don't know. I don't know that. We haven't talked

655
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.519
to you years, so I don't.

656
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:41.079
Absolutely. Yeah, if fate has it, if they're listening, reach out,

657
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.639
stuff like that happens on this show. It's really weird.

658
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.760
Connections will come out of nowhere.

659
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.920
Yeah, I know, it's crazy, how and so me maybe

660
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:55.519
it's sober Mindora say, how dare you is what it is?

661
00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:01.719
Right? Yeah, I'm sure your grandpa would be tickled too

662
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.440
or ecstatic to hear that his story is being shared

663
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.000
with tons of people that appreciate it.

664
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.000
Right, And I have to thank you because it went

665
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.599
pretty people like you and it feels so comfortable in

666
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.280
telling the stories. And so I've got that for a

667
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.679
long time. That company is his story told he needs

668
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.559
honestly thought, I run a boo book on my grandpa

669
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:30.360
and how those stories it's all fascinating, not just this one,

670
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.559
but all fascining. Also, I think he went through and

671
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.760
went many days and grown up as kid and things

672
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.239
like that, and it's just so awfo interesting. So but

673
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.039
I think I appreciate having the platforms to tell the

674
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:45.960
stories and get them out there. And you're right, he

675
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.480
would think it's great and he yeah, finally for me.

676
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.920
Here and they're all really excited about it and they're

677
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.679
going to be probably talking about it for a while. Wow.

678
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.400
Thank you for the kind words. That's why I do

679
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.440
this show is so people can get their stories out,

680
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.880
and even people that aren't with us anymore, they can

681
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.079
get their stories out as well through their relatives that

682
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.440
are still here and t J, I just appreciate you

683
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.039
coming on. Did you have any you know, just to check?

684
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:18.880
Did you have any other things that you would want

685
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.199
to share before we start to wind down our time together.

686
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:25.239
I don't think so.

687
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:27.400
I think that's pretty muchee it. I just from my

688
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.159
appreciation for you and have me on and they must

689
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.039
get enough phrase out there. And like I said, I watched,

690
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:35.960
I've been to watching a lot of shows. We just

691
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:39.159
get catch up on thasy done. And one comes out

692
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.519
and all the locations set and where I can see

693
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.320
whenever time he comes out, and I love all the

694
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.519
prasons And this is here's the thing I want to ask,

695
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.000
and I want to ask the listeners too. You once

696
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:54.480
you have had this encounter, some people are like, I

697
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.840
have seen one. I don't want every want to see

698
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.519
one again, simply oh gosh, I can't wait to see

699
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:01.920
one again. And I'm on the fence about it, and

700
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.800
I sell one. And my experience was so calm and

701
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.400
just not frightening. I think I could go ahead and

702
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.760
have one to see one again, but I'm not sure

703
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.079
how I would feel it would now, No, it was

704
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.639
flash blassed. If I want to feel about it something

705
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.800
I feel one importunate that I did see her, but

706
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.880
the same inspectime, I just needed that, and don't go

707
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.719
see any more do I just go out seeing if

708
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.000
I could see one again. But then what I've heard

709
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.039
though too they go out look for it, you won't

710
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.119
see it, and a few are just turning out throwing

711
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:34.880
up being defineum.

712
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.280
TJ that that is such a great thing to bring up.

713
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:41.159
And I've talked to so many people over the years,

714
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.159
and I think what it comes down to, and I

715
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.039
experienced this oak ridge in the woods as well, is

716
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.840
that it's really not about going out.

717
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:53.079
Man.

718
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.039
Five years ago, I wouldn't even I would listen to

719
00:37:58.119 --> 00:37:59.840
myself now and I'd be like, what are you talking about?

720
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.960
But for now, what I'm learning is it's not about

721
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:09.239
going out there and hitting the trees or making the calls.

722
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:16.480
It's about literally just have a chair, sit down, enjoy

723
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:21.960
the nature, have the right motivation, and then just let

724
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.639
it happen. And I'll tell you, if the right people

725
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:29.039
are there with the right attitudes, you're going to experience

726
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.000
stuff and it will come to you eventually and it

727
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:34.400
will just blow your mind. I had it happen to

728
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.960
me personally. And I know some people are listening to

729
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.960
this and be like, you're crazy. I experienced it. I'm

730
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:41.599
telling you, yeah, you could do that.

731
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:42.639
I know what it's all.

732
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.000
Yeah. Absolutely, And I haven't had a visual yet, but

733
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.440
I think if I keep going to especially at this

734
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:54.960
corridor area, this fifty eight quarter from like Eugene down

735
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.679
to Oak Ridge and even past it, maybe down to

736
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.400
Odell Lake and over to Crescent, this whole area is

737
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.119
just crazy. I think eventually there'll be something that happens.

738
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:04.760
So we'll see.

739
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.559
Yes. Yeah, And the Upper Frall Creek a place called

740
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.039
the Little Fall Crak too, is Upper Fall Creek is

741
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.199
more back in the woods where the mountain people live.

742
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.480
I would say there's primars settings up there too, but

743
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:19.719
I would like to hear from people out there if

744
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.119
they have any sends out there, they live out there.

745
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.440
Oh okay, So you're saying Fall Creek and then you

746
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.679
take the road out to Little Fall Creek. That's pretty

747
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.480
far out there, but it's still a community.

748
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.880
Yeah, yeah, you take it's not community, but it's more

749
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.719
just more country and it's going down to Jest for

750
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.519
a little road, just a little road, and then through

751
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.159
once you get to the intercession to go towards Unity

752
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.920
or all you keep going and then that's up the

753
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:49.880
little Fall Creek here.

754
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.360
Now are the roads up there? Are they like they're

755
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.280
probably like dirt roads or that is still paved up there.

756
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.920
They're paid, they're prettyick. Yeah. Yeah, if you come up,

757
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.440
if you come out to pray, I love to show

758
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.440
you around to take out there. Get the fun. Yeah,

759
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.760
you can't different way out their way again.

760
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.360
I well, I'll keep it in mind. That whole area,

761
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.079
and thank you for the offer. There's so there's so

762
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.760
much wild stuff, even down in the Dexter area, and

763
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.800
like Elijah Bristow ye low that whole area is just

764
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:21.760
seems wild too.

765
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:29.320
Low is at that price and set Yeah Lowell Bot

766
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.480
Lowell Little Bot. And it's right up above Dexter, up

767
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:37.519
above Gester. Yeah, okay there, and that's pretty much that's

768
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.079
there's a lot of housing projects of that now. But

769
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.039
I'm sure there people that have had terns up there.

770
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.239
I'm pretty sure, because I know there's one back in

771
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.239
the day's heard at now and not recently, but I

772
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:51.840
know that back in the day of us had sign

773
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.519
me out there. We've heard about it recently. Somebody saw

774
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:56.039
one out there.

775
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.400
Oh wow, just off to the side. Do you think

776
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.119
that the whole mountain people of Fall Creek are that's

777
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.119
still a thing that might happen up there.

778
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.719
Oh yeah, definitely, just and and and Codge Grove as well.

779
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.119
They have people up there to the people in the hills,

780
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.639
call people that live and cog go to calling people

781
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:23.239
the hills, and we called mountain people. Yeah, wow, crazy,

782
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:27.320
I know. It's just just it's very interesting. It's very

783
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.400
really just not sure. And I'm not sure now I

784
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.400
here still here of them, and I'm not sure that

785
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:35.440
if they're and it's a lot of stuff going on,

786
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.760
just whatever happens with them, and they don't go to

787
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:41.760
school and Todas live up there.

788
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.039
Oh wow. Okay, so it's a whole different world and

789
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.960
the rules don't apply. And be careful when you go

790
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:50.639
out there. Okay, I got it.

791
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.239
You never know, right, Okay, your morning, right.

792
00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.960
This is called foreshadowing, right, But yeah, I when I

793
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.960
go out there, you definitely want to have people with

794
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.199
you that know the area. And I'm not just going

795
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.719
out in the woods by myself, especially out in this area.

796
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:12.639
American not a smart idea.

797
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.840
Great, Yeah, take a big man with a bat with you.

798
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.719
Out there, it's a whole different world.

799
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.679
And that's saying I was running too, And I think

800
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.079
I said email about this before. Why don't hear a

801
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.880
lot of studies in Hawaiian.

802
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.920
I think it's because it's on it just on an island.

803
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.679
That's a good question, right, because there are stories from

804
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:48.400
cultures on other islands, Papua New Guinea, I believe there's

805
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:52.079
other examples of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

806
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.519
That's a good question. If anyone has any ideas, feel

807
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:57.840
free to share them. But I've never actually really thought

808
00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:59.880
of that before. I've just been like, that's a thing

809
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.119
where they're just not there, right, yeah, who knows?

810
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.960
Even interesting to hear somebody just talk to talk about it,

811
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.079
or they're after you there and just going to live

812
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.199
alone wherever. I don't know, because they're the native natives

813
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.760
who go out there too. Beginning try about.

814
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.599
That it is TJ. Has been a pleasure chatting with you.

815
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.719
Thanks again so much for coming on the show. If

816
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.480
if you stumble upon anything else, any other stories or

817
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.000
things you remember later, feel free to reach out. I'd

818
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.480
always love to chat with you and maybe our paths

819
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.400
will cross someday, so I.

820
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:35.079
Think it'd be great.

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