Feb. 6, 2025

The Hunter becomes the Hunted | Illinois

Join Bigfoot Society as we dive into an intense and eerie account from a hunter named John, who had unsettling experiences over several trips to a hunting property along the Iroquois River in Illinois. From silent eeriness and strange tree formations...

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Season 1

Join Bigfoot Society as we dive into an intense and eerie account from a hunter named John, who had unsettling experiences over several trips to a hunting property along the Iroquois River in Illinois. From silent eeriness and strange tree formations to unexplained screams and mysterious languages, John recounts his chilling encounters and how these events led him to believe he might have encountered Sasquatch. His story continues with bizarre occurrences even back at his home, leaving him questioning if he was followed and if these phenomena were interdimensional. Tune in for a detailed recounting of John's eerie experiences and the emotional impact they had on his life.

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slash the big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. But the privilege

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of talking to John today. John is an individual that

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reached out to me. He is a hunter. He's got

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some interesting things happen over the years. So John, welcome

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to the show today. How's it going man, it's going great.

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Thanks awesome. You know I'd say let's go ahead and

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get right into it. I'm going to pass things over

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to you and feel free to take us back to

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when you first started to experience things out there.

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Okay, this was back in twenty eighteen. I started hunting.

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It was some family property over in Illinois along the

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Iroquois River, not too far west of the Indiana Illinois line,

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and I hadn't hunted there. I'd been to this property before,

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but I had never hunted there. So my wife says, well,

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why don't you go hunt this property because you've always

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wanted to. So I said, okay, I'll go do that.

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So I went there. I set up a stand, set

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up a trail cam. This is a river bottom, so

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usually there's quite a bit of activity and along the river.

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About a month later I went for the opening weekend.

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It was in October for bow for deer went down there.

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I went on a Saturday afternoon. The first thing I

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did was grab my trail can, went back and looked

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at it. I had seventy pictures on it, but there were

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no pictures on it, so I thought that was rather odd.

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And the camera had been turned to the opposite side

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of the tree. And found that real strange. So got

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ready started to go hunting. Went to the stand and

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I had a real uneasy feeling. It was actually silent.

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There was no birds, there was no squirrels. There was

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no bugs or anything going on. I thought, boy, this

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is really strange. Got to my stand and in front

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of my stand there was about a ten inch round

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maple tree that was bent over and cracked. I thought

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it was something from the wind. You got to realize

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I have no idea what's going on at this point.

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But then I'm thinking, get up in the stand. I'm like, boy,

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that is really strange looking at this. It's probably two

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foot off the ground, and the tree looked like it

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was cracked, and there really hadn't been any storms or

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anything that came through there. So I hunted that evening

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and I just had the strangest feeling. Now I've hunted

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all my life and I have never felt like this.

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I'm hunting. I mean, I heard nothing there was, Like

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I said, no birds, no squirrels, no bugs, didn't see

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anything that evening, kind of shaking my head, going back, thinking, well,

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just a bad night. So there's some cabins on there

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that I can stay in, So go in, go to sleep.

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That night, at three forty five in the morning, there

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were a bunch of coyotes that had surrounded this cabin.

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Is the best way I can put it, one right,

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on the front porch and they were screaming like I've

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never heard coyotes before. I jumped up out of bed

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trying to figure out what is going on here, and

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I thought, this is stranger. There's one on the front,

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there's one on the side, and there's one off the

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back and they're all yapping. So I was startled. They

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jumped up, went to the door, looked out. It stopped.

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I didn't see anything. I'm like, so now I'm up,

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and they started again, which I pinted all my life.

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I funded coyotes. Usually that doesn't happen. So now they've

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moved off a little bit, but they're still out there,

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and then they stopped. I waited a little bit. I thought, well,

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I'm probably not going to see any deer today, but

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these coyotes going crazy. Go out to the stand, just

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a real eerie feeling. Again, got up in the stand,

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silence once again. There were no birds, no squirrels, a

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running around do nothing. Hunted for a few hours and

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I did see one dear about one hundred yards away

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running for its life. I never saw what was chasing it,

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but that was it. So I called it a day

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left called the landowner and said, hey, you have a

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serious coyote problem here. I've never heard anything like this

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in my life. He's like, well, I've never heard of

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coyote there at all. I'm like, well, okay, well, I'm

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just telling you there's there's something going on here. So

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I left. I'm still not realizing what was going on,

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but just shaking my head like something's not right there.

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Went home, told my wife that. I said, well, I'll

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go back again next the next week. Come back the

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next week, same scenario that whether it's been nice all week.

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This time I come back, I pull up. Now there

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is a huge tree broken backwards, leaning up against the cabin,

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and I'm like, you know what's going on here? So

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I called the landowner and I said, hey, you've got

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a tree down here. He's like, what do you mean

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there's a tree down? You haven't had any bad weather.

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I said, I'm telling you, there's a tree down and

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it's leaning up against the cabin. It's perfect, the top

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is just touching the side of the cabin. So once

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again I go out hunting. Same scenario, silence, and now

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I'm getting a little edgy. Didn't have any issues that night.

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I got up the next morning, same thing. Nothing around there.

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Now I'm really stunned. I don't know what to think

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about what's going on here. So I left still not

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really thinking anything about what else would happen. So went home,

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came back again the next weekend. Now, this weekend I

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did see a few deer. There was birds, there were squirrels,

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there was bugs. Everything, It was noisy, saw a couple deer.

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Didn't really have any problems, so I thought, Okay, well,

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starting to come around here. Now we're getting into the

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end of October. Came back one more weekend and the

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feeling was there again. It was just uneasy and it

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was silent Saturday afternoon, saw nothing, heard nothing. I had

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moved to it. He had another cabin there, so I'd

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moved to a different cabin. Back. Well, it gets kind

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of it gets dark down in the river bottom, So

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when i came out, it was still a little bit light,

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and I'm walking back to the cabin. Got about fifteen

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yards from the door. I heard a huge stick crack

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and a big thud, but nothing ran away. So I'm

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just standing there kind of looking into this thicket. Whatever's there.

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I know it's still there looking at me and it's

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only maybe fifteen yards away. I thought, well, it's got

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to be a deer, but it didn't run away. Nothing. Yeah,

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maybe a minute goes by, still nothing. I'm looking in

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the thicket, and then across this meadow and another thicket

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along the river, I hear a scream. It sounded like

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a young woman screaming. So now I don't know what

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to do. So whatever's still in that ticket is still there.

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I heard that scream, so I decide, well, I'm going

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to walk out in this meadow because now I'm thinking

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somebody might be hurt. But I'm also thinking, why is

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there some woman in this thicket down along this river?

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And now it's getting dark. So I walk out into

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this meadow and look around. I don't see anything. So

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I start walking down towards the river, and whoever or

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whatever it was started talking, and to this day I

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can't get this out of my head. The best way

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to describe this was it sounded like like a language

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I had never heard, almost like a I have to say,

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like a Samurai, Japanese, Chinese thing. It would start out

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low and get real high. And now I don't know

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what to do because whatever is behind me is still there,

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and now I've got something. So I'm kind of in

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a pinch point here, so I stopped walking. I'm like, yeah,

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I don't know, I better not go down there because

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and this is still the talking is still going on,

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if you want to call it talk, and I don't

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know what it was, so I decide I better go back.

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I go back to the cabin. I'm kind of sitting

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there trying to figure out what just happened, and all

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of a sudden, Uh, there's a wall right in front

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of me. There's two big knocks on the wall. So

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now I'm flipping out. I'm a red I'm a fairly

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large guy. I'm six 't six, two hundred and seventy pounds.

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I'm starting to get mad now because I'm thinking somebody's

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messing with me. So I had I did have a pistol,

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So I grabbed a pistol and I start walking to

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the door and something I don't know what it was

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that don't open the door. In my mind me telling them,

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you know, don't go out there, because now it's just

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pitch black out there. So now I'm a little scared.

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And you don't get good phone reception out there, so

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I'm trying to rationalize in my head, well, now somebody's

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messing with me here, just relax and you know, don't

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do anything. Turn off all the lights. I'm sitting there

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somewhere in there. I fall asleep. At about three o'clock

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in the morning, I start hearing something hitting the roof

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of the cabin. It sounded like rocks and it was

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just there was like five of them that hit, and

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they were in a rhythm and then they just stopped.

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So now I'm kind of I'm actually scared. I'm thinking,

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if somebody's here, they've been here all night long, out

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here in the pitch black. No, what are they going

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to do to me here? So if I sit there

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in the dark, I wait, tell myself, I'm waiting until

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it's going to get light, and then I'm getting out

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of here. I fully expect to go to my jeep,

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which was parked I don't know, about hundred yards away,

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and my tires were going to be flat or something.

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The sun comes up and I kind of hurried up,

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gathering my stuff, went out. There was nothing, There was

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nothing wrong. All my tires were intact. I'm trying to

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figure out what's going on here. So I went back.

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I had to grab the rest of my stuff. I decide,

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I'm going to go look in this sticket where I

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first heard the stick crack, and it was about twenty

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yards away. So I go in there and there is

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a area probably ten foot round, completely flattened. And that's not

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like where a deer had been laying or anything like that.

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Big So a society who will be right back after

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these messages.

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I mean, like crop circle flattened, and I have no idea.

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I'm like, what could have done this? So I got

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my stuff when I got out of there, and I

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never went back, and I didn't tell anybody because I

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didn't want to get ridiculed. But I knew something was

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not right. So I actually didn't tell anybody for probably

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a year. Decided I kind of at this point kind

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of had a feeling what was going on, because I

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had done some research and some things popped up about sasquatch,

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and I was kind of beside myself. I had been

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listening to a few things and other people had the

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exact same thing happened to them that happened to me,

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and I just I didn't want to tell anybody, just

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because I thought nobody's going to believe me anyway what

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went on here. So I decided I did go back

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a few months, and then I did put out another

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trail camera, and I'm like, I got to know for myself,

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and I put that one out, and that one was fine.

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I had deer all over the place on it, all

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kinds of wildlife. But so whatever was there didn't go

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back there or wasn't there when I was there in

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this summer again, so I decide, well, there was another

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thing that happened, and I hadn't, Like I said, I

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hadn't told anybody this yet. So at my house now

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it's an hour and ten minutes away. My daughter had

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told me about a couple of months after this happened.

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She said the next day she's like, Dad, there was

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a baby crying outside my window last night. And I'm like, well,

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it's probably a rabbit or something going on, you know.

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She goes, no, it was a baby crying outside my window.

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And now we do have a big woods behind her house.

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So I in my mind here, knowing all this other stuff,

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I'm like, nah, this can't be. About two weeks later,

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I have this. I'm gonna call it a dream. I

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popped up out of bed in a cold sweat, and

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I had all I'm this, all I can think of

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is I had a something behind my house talking to

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me in that language. Again, now I'm thinking I'm really crazy,

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except the fact that I have a dog that is

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standing at the doorway growling like I've never heard of

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growl before. It's something exactly where I pictured this happening

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in the backyard. So now I'm kind of like, did

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this thing follow me home? I don't know, I don't know.

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I don't know what happened there. So then another strange occurrence,

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a couple probably it was probably two months later, I

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started hearing owls in the backyard every time I would

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go out the back door, and how I would hoot

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for seven days straight. Found this to be just bizarre.

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So I don't know. The one thing I can say

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is I never saw what this was, but I had

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a lot of things happen two Really, I don't know

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what else it could be. So then I decide, now

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it's a couple of years later, this is back. So

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now we're into twenty twenty three. My wife, who's putting

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up with me listening to all this stuff that I'm

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telling her. She said, well, let's take the dogs and

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go back there and you can show me, you know,

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where all this happened. I'm like, all right, now, this

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was in September, late September, a beautiful day, got down there,

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opened the gate, still had the key, go back down

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to by the river, and I had my two dogs

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with me and my daughter and my wife. As soon

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as I stepped out of the jeep, I knew something

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wasn't right again, same feeling, just silence. My one dog

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wouldn't even get out the jeep. So I was a

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little on edge. I told my wife and like, yeah,

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I'm not feeling feeling it right now. He said, well,

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let's go kind of walk the dogs around a little bit.

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You can show me where all this happened. So we

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start walking the dogs and I'm uneasy. She's kind of

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looking at me like, yeah, okay, whatever. The dogs are silent,

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which is one's a beagle, and you know beagles, they're

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never silent. They're walking just not really doing much. Take

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her show her where everything's at, and it's kind of funny.

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She starts to whistle. She goes, I heard you should

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never whistle in the woods. I said, yeah, you probably shouldn't.

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So she's whistling and I'm like, you know, stop, So

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I take her where, show her where all this is.

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There was no flattened circle or anything at this time.

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So my daughter decides she goes, well, I'm going to

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go back, and I said, okay, we're going to walk

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the dogs. And looking around a little bit more, well,

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I kind of got that uneasy feeling. I said, now

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we're going to go back with my daughter. My wife

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starts whistling again, which I'm kind of laughing. Now. I said,

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all right, I'll start whistling. So I started whistling and

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we turn this bend right around this road here, and

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at the same time, my wife and daughter say, there's

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a beagle right there and there's some somebody with it.

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Now I'm fifteen yards away from this, so I said,

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get the dog. And the dogs are silent. They're just

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sitting there looking. So I run that. They couldn't have

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taken me five seconds, ten seconds to get to where

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this is at. There's nothing there. So I'm looking at him.

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I'm like, you sure you saw something like yeah, and

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my daughter's like, yeah, I saw like black boots running.

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Now this is an open field. I would have seen

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something in that amount of time. So I said, well,

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get the dogs in the car, so we're getting out

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of here. I looked around nothing. So as we're driving

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driving out now there's no wind or anything. That day,

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there is a across the road blocking me from getting

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out the gate. So I had to stop and I

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I mean, if it would have fallen, I would have

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heard something. So now my wife and daughter are scared.

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I get out. I moved the log. I'm looking around.

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I don't see anything. I get out of there, and

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I have never been back. Now. I did talk to

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the landowner about it. I finally got the courage to

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tell him and he said, well, I've never had anything

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like that happen, he said, but I was out here

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one night building this cabin, and across the creek we

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see this light dancing through the trees. Like he goes.

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It looks like a lantern that's just going up and

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down through the trees. And he went over. As soon

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as he got there, it just disappeared. So I don't

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know if it's something at this place, if it's paranormal,

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but there is something definitely going on there. Like I said,

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I have not been back there. Don't know that I

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want to go back there again. Don't know if I

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want to see what actually is there, but pretty sure

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it's still there. So that's my story. I don't know

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if anybody else has had any issues in that area,

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but this is along the Iroquois River in central Illinois.

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John, that's absolutely incredible. Thank you for sharing what you experienced.

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When you when you're saying central Illinois, you know myself,

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I'm from Iowa, so when I think central Illinois, I'm

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thinking like Springfield, Peoria. Is that what you mean by

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central Illinois.

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No, it's more towards Watsika.

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Okay, gotcha, that's just h.

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I actually quit hunting for a couple of seasons there

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after that, and to this day, I can still hear

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that talking. That's the thing. Whatever that was H was

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not anything that I I have ever heard or no,

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and I've never felt that way anywhere else I've wanted,

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and I've hunted for forty years now, and it still

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gives me goosebumps talking about it.

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Well, I can tell you're incredibly emotionally affected by by

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what happened, even today, and thank you for being able

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to talk through what you experienced. You you have You've

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never heard anything like what you heard that day anywhere else? No?

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Never, okay, never. Yeah, it was a you know, the scream.

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At first I thought it was a woman. It was

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a high pitched scream, and it was down in this thicket,

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this real dark thicket, which you know kind of when

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you hear that, like what's going on there? But then

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the talking Actually, as I'm walking down to look, they

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started talking and then it was a It started out

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low and then it got real high and it was

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just gibberish and iman can hear it in my head

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right now? Have you ever heard stuff that happened at home? Yeah?

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You know, I don't. I don't know. You know, there's

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times I thought, hey, I'm I'm going crazy here, but

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I don't think.

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So big for a society will be right back after

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these messages, hmm. I mean, just the fact that your

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dog was also affected by the same thing at the

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same time. Have you ever listened to what's called the

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Sierra Sounds at all? Do you ever look at that?

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Yeah, yes, similar on some of it, but not the

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whoops or the It was more it was like it

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was it was a conversation that was going on, hm,

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but it was the same between the two or possibly three.

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But I mean, I ran this scenario through my head

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so many times. I think, now there's some fruit trees

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and things on this property. I think maybe they're coming

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in to feed there. That's all I can guess. The

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landowner did tell me, He goes, yeah, my peaches keep disappearing,

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and he doesn't know where they go at that time,

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you know, in the fall. But I think I startled

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the one that was right by the door of the cabin,

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and somehow the other ones were trying to distract me.

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But you know, all this stuff runs through your head

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and you never really I really, I'll never probably ever know.

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Well, yeah, that's that's the trick about it is, you know,

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you just there's no way to know that the actual answers,

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and then your your mind just keeps working and working.

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And do you know is this location usually empty? There's

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not people out in this location, or is it pretty

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busy in the fall.

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In the summer they use it more, but in the fall, no,

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it's it's empty, okay. And then that log across the

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road when we were going out that last time, that

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that's pretty much stealed it for me. I'm not I

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really have no desire to go back there.

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Yeah, I don't blame you, And it kind of makes

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me one of the things I always think about, you know,

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when it comes to a situation when you have a

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hunter in a area where there's some of these bigfoot

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you have food sources and and you said peaches, but

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then you also mentioned how there was the deer that

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was running for its life from something, and you almost

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have to wonder if the way that they are viewing

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you is something that's taking away there or potentially taking

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where their food source, and that's why they wanted you

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out of there, no matter what, you know.

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They definitely want me out there. Yeah good, I mean

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that just I mean, think about that first that I

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was there with those coyotes. I mean, right on the porch,

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out of a dead sleep, waking up with that screaming.

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And these were the loudest coyotes I've ever heard in

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my life. So but I at that point, I don't

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think of anything else, you know, possibly mimicking a coyote, right,

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But there was just too many strange things that happened

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over that time. And then when you put them all together. Yeah,

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whatever it is did not want me there.

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There's something that I want to clarify. It is back

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at your house. So whenever you left the house, you

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would hear owls throughout the day.

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It was in the evening. Seven nights in a row.

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I would go out on my back deck and it

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would start. It was only me. When somebody else went out,

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it didn't happen, and I thought that it was really strange.

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Especially after about the third night. I'm like, yeah, here

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we go again. So I don't know. And then when

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my daughter swears it was a baby crying right outside

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her window, brings back, you know that scream that I

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heard too. So I don't know. I didn't see anything,

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and I'm kind of glad I didn't see anything, but

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it sure has affected me.

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Oh absolutely. I do have another question about the owls.

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You know, sometimes I get people that report something similar

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to that. But then, were there any other details you

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remember about how they sounded or anything that was off

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about it? Or did it sound like pretty much a

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normal owl?

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It sounded the it was kind of a louder owl.

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Who but they were the same every night, and I

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couldn't see the owl, but it wasn't too far away

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from me, but I thought that rather out every time

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I came out for that week, it would happen, and

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then I just quit, and I had never happened.

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Since I was going to ask you that too. Is

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so after that last interaction where it was you and

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your family at the property and then you were able

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to get out of there, did anything else the ordinary

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happened since then? Or it's been pretty much cleared out.

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It's been pretty calm. I have not had any more instances.

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And your daughter as well too. Yes, okay, interesting. Have

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you ever done any research to see if there's been

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other encounters reported near that area?

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I did look up. I saw one that was actually

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along the Iroquois River there, but it was further west

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and south, and somebody had seen had actually seen them

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a couple of nights in a row along the road.

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But then that was that. But no, I've seen I

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have heard other instances more in southern Illinois. People have

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seen them.

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Oh absolutely. I mean you get down to southern Illinois

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and it does get extremely wild down there. It's come

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up a few times on the show recently. There's some

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00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.400
that aren't even out yet. But yeah, southern Illinois is interesting.

449
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.679
That's why it's special to hear about this area of

450
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.519
the state. You don't hear a lot of it. Usually

451
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:12.039
hear around Peoria or down near Shawnee. So it's very

452
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:13.800
cool to hear about this area.

453
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:19.519
Although there are some big woods there. Yeah, and like

454
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:26.400
I mean, there's a river. Yeah, I don't know.

455
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:34.760
You know, John, it sounds like you've you've thought about

456
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.239
this a whole lot over over the years. And I

457
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:44.199
don't blame you. I would as well when you think

458
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:49.800
about Bigfoot, and I know you didn't have the chance

459
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:55.639
to see anything, but you really experienced some intense things.

460
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:01.000
So when you're thinking about that in your mind, what

461
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.400
do you do? You have any thoughts about what Bigfoot

462
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:05.679
might be that's out there.

463
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:17.079
Well, I do believe it is an entity that maybe interdimensional.

464
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:24.199
I mean, there's so many people have seen them and

465
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:32.800
experienced things. There's got to be something there. Uh got

466
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:33.840
to be a lot smarter than me.

467
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:45.280
It definitely knew where you were on the property and

468
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.719
where you were headed, which is pretty wild. How it

469
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:54.159
had the the trees against certain areas.

470
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.840
Yeah, two trees down, one right in front of my stand.

471
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.760
I mean, it was a green tree just broken half,

472
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.480
and then the one the big tree, and it was

473
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:18.519
perfect and it came back. It was backwards and it

474
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.760
was perfectly lined up to the cabin. The tip of

475
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:28.039
the top of the tree was touching the cabin. At

476
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.039
that point, I thought, oh, this is how lucky can

477
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:32.519
you get that it didn't.

478
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.280
Destroy the cabin right exactly?

479
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.679
But then I was looking at it. There's no lightning

480
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.679
strikes and it was just broken.

481
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:51.519
At any time, did you see any anything that looked

482
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:57.760
like it could be like tracks or you know, disturbances

483
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.320
in the ground anything, I thought did.

484
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.599
Along the river, it looked like something had been walking

485
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.400
and it sunk deep down. I thought, you know, maybe

486
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.760
it's a deer because you can't tell, but it was.

487
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:17.800
It was rather large, but I couldn't at that point.

488
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:23.280
I'm not really when I saw this, I wasn't. I

489
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.800
wasn't really thinking of that, right, but you know, it

490
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.719
could have been somebody walking through the mud down there.

491
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.480
But I didn't really see anybody fishing or anything along

492
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:35.199
the river either.

493
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.840
Yeah, And that's that's a good point to bring up,

494
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.880
because you know, you're just you're just a hunter out

495
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.840
there trying to figure out what's going on and trying

496
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.079
to to get what you're out there for, and you're

497
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.880
not in the mindset where, Okay, how long are the tracks?

498
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.559
How long between the tracks? Are the tracks in a

499
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.199
straight line, or are they by themselves? You're not thinking

500
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.559
like that, You're just like, what what is going on? Yeah?

501
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:05.599
I get it.

502
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:13.119
Yeah, it was something I don't ever want to experience again.

503
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:21.519
I'll tell you that, would you ever want to to

504
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.639
see what one looks like if you had the.

505
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:34.199
Chance, I guess I would, just out of curiosity. But

506
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.239
I don't know that. I you know, I don't know

507
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:42.639
what I would have done if I would have saw one,

508
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:52.920
know that that one night. Yeah, I don't know. I

509
00:42:52.960 --> 00:43:00.599
guess it would be interesting to see one, But with

510
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.639
the stuff that's happened to me, actually, I don't know

511
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:04.000
if I do.

512
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:09.719
Sure. Yeah, it's a tricky one, for sure. I mean, yeah,

513
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.519
definitely you can say that that you do. But then

514
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.159
there's the old saying where it's it's be careful for

515
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:22.719
what you wish for, and I get that too. Do

516
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.840
you have any thoughts as to do you feel that

517
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:33.159
it's helpful for an individual that's had an experience like

518
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:38.480
this to share to someone rather than to keep it

519
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.599
all in. Was that something that you had to work

520
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:45.440
through or was there a difference in how you felt

521
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:46.880
after you finally shared it.

522
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.199
Well, at first I was I didn't think anyone would

523
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.159
believe me when I if I told them, so I to,

524
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.039
you know, I just kept quiet, But then it kept

525
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:03.639
eating away at me. And then once they finally did

526
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:08.719
say something, it did feel better. And it does feel

527
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.920
better to talk about it because I know there's other

528
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:14.320
people out there that have probably had some type of

529
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.599
similar occurrences that might be like I was, and they're

530
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.280
not saying anything about it. So I would tell them

531
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.360
it is good to tell somebody about it and talk

532
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:31.559
about it. It kind of helps with understanding what happened.

533
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:40.960
Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent it is. I've never

534
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:45.920
found it where it is not helpful to the person

535
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:48.960
that's sharing it. It always seems to be helpful in

536
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:49.519
some way.

537
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:57.239
Yeah, And you know, our government has to know someone

538
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:03.960
about this. Why they're quiet, I don't I don't know,

539
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.559
but I guess they don't want to panic people.

540
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.840
But well, you know, John, I don't know, because, like

541
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:19.920
you know, we're recording this on the day of the inauguration. Correct, yes,

542
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:25.280
and I mean not to get overly too political, but

543
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.840
there's a chance that some things, well some things are

544
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.519
definitely going to be released if if the current president

545
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:40.000
has his way, and I don't think it's too far

546
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.679
out of the picture that potentially, I mean, if there's

547
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.639
ever going to be a time, it is going to

548
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.639
be you know, President Trump, that he's going to see

549
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.320
the folder as his bigfoot and he's going to say,

550
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.960
just put out there. I don't care, like it's all

551
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.000
about getting the right person that can be like, yes,

552
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.320
why don't you throw that out too, you know, And

553
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.920
I don't know, man, it could happen, It could happen. Yeah,

554
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:10.639
we'll see, we will see. But man, John, it has

555
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.239
been a privilege having you on the show tonight. Thank

556
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.840
you for reaching out. I'm glad that you're able to

557
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:24.119
respond to me after I put a comment on your comment.

558
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.519
I'm still at the point where I'm able to read

559
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.039
through all the comments. A lot of the interviews come

560
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.960
from those comments on YouTube, and I just appreciate you

561
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:35.880
coming on the show and sharing something that I can

562
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.960
tell is still very fresh in your mind.

563
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.519
Yes, it definitely is. And thank you for having me

564
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.559
on here and letting me express myself. It does help.

565
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:51.400
Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

566
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.639
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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Here's the list. Number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas.

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Number two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number

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three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number

580
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four any individuals that know about bigfoot being flown off

581
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.679
after the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five. Individuals that

582
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.880
have had a bigfoot encounter well in the military. Number six.

583
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.039
Those that have had a bigfoot encounter in the southern

584
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:02.360
New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

585
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.079
Number seven individuals that have had a big foot encounter

586
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.400
in a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number

587
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eight individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their

588
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.679
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589
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that have actively have a bigfoot living on their property.

590
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And lastly, any sightings that are in the Watchitaw National

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