The Hunter becomes the Hunted: Return of Swampdogg

0:00 Either you're listening to the Big for Society podcast and I'm Jeremiah Bron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced Sasquatch in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode with a friend. Does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. If you'd like to hear Bigfoot Society episodes early in ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes and Big for Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show, all right, Big for Society. We've got the privilege of talking to old friends Swampdog from South Jersey again and we're gonna see what's been going on over there.

0:55 So how we're doing today, Swampdog, We're doing good. I'm just sitting here, I actually sitting here in my truck having a couple of coffees. But yeah, we're doing very good. There you go. It is. So last time we had talked, you had an interesting thing happen where you had some things thrown at your truck, and you were experiencing some really wild stuff out there. But that's been a while back after that big stick of throwing in my truck, and I had called you up and we talked about it. I went back. It was a couple of days later. I went back and because I had read some comments people have said, how did I know that the stick their fall up of a tree or whatever?

1:40 And I went back there and I parked the truck exactly where it happened, and I was with the other bigfoot researcher and we were checking it out. And the trees I was near my truck, there were pine trees. And the stick that I was thrown in my truck was nothing like the trees that was near my truck. There were different type of branches. We looked around and stuff, and we hiked around that area looking for tracks and stuff and that area. It's funny because they got things that I call them ground blinds.

2:23 They're like stick structures, but they're like blinds. You know. I'm trying to say nothing with a roof or nothing. It's more like a blind, like a hunt and blind. And we were thinking and we were looking and we were trying to figure things out, and they probably was about twenty yards away from me when that happened, and we never seen it because of these type of blinds. And I keep looking at them blinds and I go back there all the time, and you can hide back there. And me and the other researcher we went back there and we got behind these structures and stuff, and we can see where something or somebody can hide back there and do what they want. Because it's like a hunting, a bland type of deal, you know what I'm saying now, Me being a deer hunter, because that bow hunt, I think these things were like excellent built, you know what I'm saying. I couldn't do no better. Oh absolutely. And this is in the area where you had the issue with the sticks ter on your truck. Correct, Yeah, yep, that's what we was because we went back there and we wanted to check it out. And but yeah, that's what There was nothing that fell up of a tree. And you know, I had heard other comments and stuff, but yeah, it's just nothing

3:53 happened. Now. A couple of days later, what I did was I went back to that same spot west Side Park, and I got there eleven o'clock at night, and I put back into that parking spot, I by myself. I shut the truck off, and I said, you know what, I'm going to camp out here tonight. And I had shut the truck off and I let the windows open about an inch on each side. I do you mean to pass your door and the driver door the truck was completely off. My truck has like a mile tent to it, so it's hard to see inside. I got nighttime if I have all the lights off inside, I went to sleep. I stood a seat all the way back, I folded back. I got comfortable and I just I took a nap.

4:48 Although that I wanted to be there all night, it didn't happen. But what happened was I finally went to sleep. Around eleven eleven thirty at night. Everything was off, nobody was in the park. I'm looking around and make sure there's nobody around and all that stuff. About two o'clock in the morning, I felt the back of my truck shake and it worked me up. But I didn't move, and it's and then my trucks like another shake. But I mean I can feel it that it was on the back of my truck, so I didn't move or nothing, and I heard like a grutting sound, and then I didn't hear no more. I didn't feel my truck shake anymore. So I'm just sitting in my seat and I'm saying to myself, it's things get weird. I'm going to hit the panic button on my keychain or the law on my truck. That was my plans, and I wanted to see, well would happen if I did that. I waited another five ten minutes after I fucked the truck shake. Last night shook again, but this time was more aggressive. I didn't start the truck up.

6:12 I hit the panic button, and my headlights and my back and my tail lights they were flashing, and then the hall was blowing me because the panic button. And when that happened, I actually heard something run away from the back of my truck back into the woods, and actually heard whatever was going through the woods was crashing through the woods and all that stuff, and I said, I'm out. I started the truck up, I turned my offload lights on, and I left and I went back home. I told Tammy what happened, and she didn't want me to do stuff like that anymore. So wow. Yeah, And as I'm coming out the woods, and it's not like a long trail, it's like a trail and it comes out to the parking lot for West Side Park. And when you come out the parking lot, that's when you hit out in the Almond Road. And I made my left and went on down back to the house. But yeah, that's what happened that night. Now, the next morning, I went back to my truck and I had to take my wife to Walmart. She had to buy dog food and stuff like that. So when she came out of Walmart, he had to put back a dog food name the water and stuff and I was gonna put it back in the truck, and she said, what's all this stuff? It was like on the passenger side, on the rear

7:45 by my tail light, it was like, I don't know, I don't want to call it like sliding, but maybe it was like oil ish, you mean, like the oil we And I was like, what the hell is that? I'm thinking? Maybe asked where they was shaking the back of my truck from the corner back there, because it was like an oily residue. But this had to smell to it. You took your index finger and you wiped it on, like you rubbed on it, and you smell it and had to smell to it. Wow, and like it was oily. After we got home and we put the stuff away, like in the house and all that stuff, we went to the car wash and I wanted to watch that stump off and that stuff really didn't come off my truck. Yes, But what I ended up, so what I ended up had it doing was I got some fine sandpaper and I set it that area down and I don't know, my truck is cameued and I could repainted that area with my camel spray paint from ustodium, but that was an oily residue and a smell to it. I can't explain the smell. But my wife, we even used to brush at the car wash to try to brush it, wash it off with the brush, and it wouldn't come off. That's why I said, I end up like wet sanded it and then I repainted it, you

9:18 know what I mean. But yeah, but I don't know, I don't know what that was. I don't know, you know, I'm trying to say, I don't know what that was. Any finger that's the thing I had. It was like a handprint on that my handprint, but not you couldn't see you could do. I couldn't see like a full handprint. But you mean, yeah, well maybe it was like maybe it was a palm, you know what I'm saying. But I don't know. But that stuff, you mean, I couldn't wash it all. And like I said, it did have a smell to it, but like it was oilly like if you had I'll tell you what it was. If you feel like if we WD forty, you know, oily WD forty is like you mean, like you said, that's how it was. So that was like from two o'clock in the morning and we got out of Walmart what like ten o'clock in the morning, because I came home around two o'clock and then we got up and went to Walmart. We got home at eleven and we went to the call wash. It was around twelve o'clock, let's say, from two o'clock in the morning. All the way the noontime that stuff was on my truck.

10:28 It did dry up or nothing. You know what I'm trying to say. Was there a color to it? I don't remember. It was it was like oily. It was like a brownish I could see it because, like I said, my truck is doing the camel. I got the green, the brown, the black, I got the darker green. I got ten six different colors on my truck that's cameoned, and it was i'd like a brownish color right from the because it was on the light colors. In the dark. Yeah, it was on the tan, the black, in the green, it was hard to see. But on the tan is part it was like a brownest color. You know what I'm saying. You mean a little light brownish color or it's not a perfect time. I don't know, like you have brownish color. So I mean, I don't know. You know what I mean. I don't know. Yeah, gotcha. That's really that's crazy swamp dog. If you want to look more into that kind of stuff, you can search for. People are calling it alba vernix, that it's like the oily. It's the sea bum the oily substance that people are finding, and the term that's being thrown around for is alba vernex. But was Jacob able to get a look at it or at that point, Yeah, no, Jacob. I tried texting Jacob, but sometimes his phone has problems. I don't know. Yes, I never got the chance to tell him about that. But I've been doing things on my own over here because he has way about an hour from me, okay, and sometimes it's hard

12:01 for him to get down here or you're actually sometimes it's hard to get a hold of them. But I've been laying low down here because oh yeah, I've been doing my thing down here. But when I hit the panic button that night, that's whatever it was, it scared it and it went crashing through the woods. It was like a bulldozer going through the woods. I knew what it was, but I said, it's time for me to go. I'm out, and after woods I went. Well. So when you and Jacob, you guys were able to meet up. What was that like? You guys were able to I'm sure swap stories. Yeah, the first time he came down here, we hit every spot that I had my encounters.

12:43 Wow, for my first encounter at the airport, I don't know if I did or if he was gonna send it to you, because he says it's gonna send it to you, but we videotape wood knots at the airport. Really yeah. And what happened was that was my first to stop. And it was weird because we parked our trucks at the entrance of this place, and we wasn't too short, and we was going to walk out in the little field and like you all that cause me, I was gonna show them where we were parked at that night back in nineteen eighty nine. But what happened was into the field, all of a sudden we heard all these First of all, we heard the two wood knocks. One was on the right and the other one was toward the left, and they were about twenty thirty yards apart from each other, and we heard the wood knocks. After we heard the wood knocks, then we heard all these coyotes. There must have been I don't know, I'm taking a guest, maybe ten coyotes, maybe fifteen, but they were all hound and yipping and yapping, and they were running away from the woodknox. And I looked at him and he looked at me, and my wife was like, what was that? I said, he yeah. He ran back to his car to get his phone and

14:15 he recorded like the end of that type of encounter. We heard the wood knox back during that airport. Now, that night I went back. I went back by myself. My wife was home, Jacob already left. I drove in the middle of that field and then I stopped. I shut the truck down. I didn't hear nothing, and then I drove farther up where I saw these things to standing. Remember when I said it was going right to left. I drove up to that section there, and when I did, I shut the truck off, and I reheard the same woodknox again, but they were from two different give me two different directions. Was there a pattern to the naki? Was one knock on the right if you're facing the wood knock sounds, The one on the right hand side only did one knock, and then the one on the left hand side only did one knock.

15:20 And they were each doing one knock each, you know what I'm saying. They were taking turns doing the woodlocks. And then I just started the truck back up. I turned on all my off road light song and I backed out of there and made a yuuie and I drove real slow right out of the field and I never went back gear. I mean, that was the last time. But yeah, so Yeah, that's what happened, and he was I don't know what. He still had to have that recording because he was I don't know why he was scared. My wife said he was scared. But I was just shocked, you know what I mean. I was like amaze, amazed, excited, not scared, but shocked, amazed and excited. Different people react different ways, and that there's no problem. Yeah, I told him. I looked at him and I said, I told you, because I was excited. I told you. I said, they're here, you know what I mean. He's like theez he says. But when he was there and we heard the wood knocks, all these coyotes ran away and the unning. They were yipping and yiping and doing coyote sounds or whatever they do, I mean yipping and yiping. And they were moving too, you know, I mean they were moving. By the time we stopped hearing them, they were probably at one hundred yards away from the woodnocks.

16:41 That's what's going on down here. It would be interesting to be able to look up that area and figure out who who owns it, and then asked those owners if they've ever experienced anything. I got lucky because I about a couple of weeks ago, me and my wife we went into the wildwalk one of the girls that we know in there. We found out that she her backyard bucks up against the airport from Garden roadside. So I never mentioned anything about Bigfoot or anything like that. She was telling me, oh, you hunt, I said, yeah, she goes. Yeah. We have a guy that he used to hunt a property and he used to hunt turkeys, but we let him do it only if he killed the coyotes in the area, because I guess they had a lot of coyotes. And he went back there doing turkey hunting. I think he did twice and he never went back why. I don't know. I can't say why. You know what I'm saying, Wow, but hunters in turkey hunting, that's popular. I will never walk away from a turkey hunt, you know what I'm saying. But the guy only turkey hundred twice and he never came back. Is Santa by a lake? Nah, it's by the river, the Morris River there,

18:11 Like you were talking about that river that goes give me through Westside Park, that goes all the way through that area, maybe about a half a mile away. You I mean from that waterway and it goes all the way through that lake up in Malaga where the Jacob was talking about the people were feeding. They never took me over there, but I was going to ask you about that. If so, you never got a you never were able to go over there. No, No, we tried. I asked him about it, and he never went, not that I know, but he told me he never went over there. And I wanted to go because I wanted to see what was going on over there, and I wanted to know why they were feeding these things, you know what I mean, you know what I'm saying. But and that that waterway goes all the way up to Mulika Hill. Yeah, that's I don't know what about twenty miles away. The waterways and all that stuff, Well, see it all give me fingers out, you know what I'm saying. Goes from lake to stream, the lake to stream. So sure. But yeah, and then I mean after the airport, after we calmed down, and then I showed them the spot where I had that encounter when I was hooking up to that trailer when I was a truck driver and I it was howling and coming down at me and all that, and then I took them to the spot where I'd seen it on

19:44 my motorcycle. And you mean, but the encounter up to two ninety five with the rest area. We didn't go there because that's like an hour away. And then after that we went up. But give me, we went our own ways and he called me up. I don't know, I'm thinking maybe two weeks later him and his wife came down the violin and we went in the West Side Park and we saw eye Shine and all that stuff, and we sat at a truck. Jacob was in the back seat and his wife was sitting up front with me, and we shut the truck down and all I had was my flashlight and we had nothing on anything. But we actually did see eye Shine and we got out of there because eye shine one eye Shine, I remember, was about seven feet tall and the other one was about eight. And when I seen the eight, I started the truck up. I said, we're out, and I went out of it because it was like ten yards away or less from my truck, and we had the windows down and I looked back to Jacob. I said, Jacob, do you think this is a good idea? Because we can't like you can't see your hands in front of your face. That's how darker was back in there. And he said, yeah, we'll be all right. I said, okay, so we're hearing noises and I said, you know what, I grabbed my flesh right out of the side of my door and I shined

21:15 it. And that's when we seen the eye shine. And I started to truck up and we left and there was red eye shine. The eye shines was red like you remember, I told you before, every time I seen these things, I've never seen no eye shine. That night we saw red eye shine, and you know that's that's when we left and she got I don't know she got nervous or whatever, but they jumped in their cars and they took off. And actually I was the last I've seen Jacob. So I talked to a guy from North Jersey a little bit ago named Mike fam a lot. It would be really interesting if you were able to talk to him someday. I think that would be. Yeah. I mestaged I message him because he did a video on it on his channel and he was saying something about he was out in north some words doing some research and you mean, I texted him on the video and I told him, I don't know if you see anything in North Jersey, but if you want to see something, come to South Jersey. But I never heard nothing more, you know what I mean. So that was the guy that was the guy that he said he I got. He has a vehicle that I guess his truck is a bigfoot truck or something. I don't know. Yeah, he's a cool guy. He goes all over the US doing different spots and making videos for YouTube and stuff. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard the podcast.

22:45 I heard that all that. Yeah, But I don't know. It's just I don't think it's weird. Because give me like all fall, give because I was I'll do a bow hunting off fall and right now I'm the winter both season here in Jersey. It's from January first and January thirty first. But when I was going into the woods, let's say, can like in September and I'm looking for a place to hang my blind or you know what I mean, or in place to give me bake the deer and stuff, because in Jersey you're allowed to bake deer and every once in a while you get to know the hunters that go in and out of there, and I met up with six, seven, eight, but nine the ten hunters that mean I talk to every week at the beginning, and now I'm the only one that hunts in this area. But anyway, like in September in October, they see my truck and some guys that I never talked to just wait high. But if I'm like walking down the train or something and they're walking opposite direction and say, hey, you're the big foots researcher, I'm gonna know. I'm not a big foot researcher. I said, I'm just hunting. He said, why, So you're swamped though, right, I said yeah. He said you were on a bigfoot show. I said,

24:15 yeah, but I'm not a researcher. Now I'm just so okay, here's the thing, swamped. I still don't believe that people listen to this. So are you for serious? Yeah? So funny dude. Yeah, people walk up to me and say, oh, so you're the big foot researcher. And it's not just in my hunt spot where I go hunting on that type of that area. I go through another area that's the power lines and I met up with a guy that he lives I made a quarter a mile away from the power lines. And he has gay trail cameras everywhere. He's got a lot of ten or fifteen gamecare He's seen my truck was games trail camera. And the one that he has is when it goes off and automatically goes to a cell phone and he sees what goes and he sees what went to buy his gay trail camera. And Jenny saw my truck, and he saw swamp Dog. He comes out on an e bike, give me those bikes that are motorized by battery, and he says, are you the swamp Dog from the podcast from Big Small Society. I said yeah, He said, you're the big foot researcher. I said, no, I'm not a bigfoot researcher. I was just on the show a few times and talking about but I'm not a research Everybody thinks I'm a researcher. Remember when he swamp

25:45 dog. Oh yeah, yeah, Oh my god. Here I am not a red light. I'm at a red light. I'm just sitting there at a red light. Now I'm smoking a cigarette, wait for the light to turn green. This kid rise alongside my truck. He's in his car and he's blowing his horn and what the hell's this one? He said, swam dog, he says, talking about bigfoot? What you said something? He said, you were Yeah, And then he told us I don't know whether his wife or his girlfriend. He goes, that's the bigfoot researcher right there. I'm like, no, I'm not a big researcher. Said. I says, yeah, but yeah, but it was a young kid, you know. I mean, I don't love you're in it now. Yeah, that's I'm sorry. Yeah, everybody's oh, that's a bigfoot researcher. I'm like, no, I'm not a bigfoot researcher. Here's a question for you.

26:42 So you have been poking around Vineland in areas. Have you heard of any other sightings or any historical things. I know you had mentioned a while back that there was the older couple that you talk to the time. I also, I made a video on my YouTube channel. You know what I mean. I got a little bit of YouTube channel. It's really not about Bigfoot. It's about overland camping and trucks and stuff like that. But I mean, I put the thing on there. I can't in vain sure he was a bow hunter. He don't bow hunt no more. He told me that he went a bowl hunting, and it was in the beginning. I think it was October. I forget what day it was, but anyway, I think it was the first week of October. He went on a bow hunt and he had one in Millville, New Jersey, at a place called Mananaco Ponds, and he had one that terrorized him and he didn't get out of the stand till noontime. And he never went back bow hunting ever again.

27:55 And I asked him to take me to where it was, and he wouldn't even go back in there. He told me as he was walking to his stand, it was like four o'clock in the morning, and he heard something I guess was like pacing him. And he had maybe about a mile walk from where he parked his truck to his stand. And when he got to his stand, he was already like his head was on a swibble. But he didn't want to turn his flashlight off because he didn't want whatever it was. He didn't know what it was, a hobo or it was a person or give me or what. He never even thought about vickfoot or anything like that. He actually thought that it was a person trying to cause trouble, so he didn't want to sign the flash flight and give whatever it was an idea where he was at because of the light of the flash flight.

28:52 This is for four o'clock in the morning, anyway, he said. By six o'clock in the morning he saw what it was, and he said it was about six and a half feet tall and and harass him so bad that he didn't get down from his stand till about noontime. And when he got down from his stand, he actually, I guess, he grabbed his dough and he ran to his truck and he never went back into woods ever again. And he said he bought a thousand dollars doll that season and he never used it. Oh wow, So I asked him he went to go get his stand. He said he never went back to get his stand or anything.

29:33 And he drew me a map where he was and I went there. The stand was still there. Really, Oh my god, goodness, it's that kind of stuff. And you see that stay and you're like, oh boy, me and my wife we actually knocked his stand down. We took it apart. It was like a fifteen foot high stand. We took it apart. We dragged it to my truck and I dropped it off of his house. Good for you. Yeah, but I went back there. Actually, we went back there yesterday. We went back there, didn't we yesterday?

30:14 We went back there, and you mean and you mean I wasn't hunting or nothing. Me and my wife, we just took a little hike through there and we went I sec when we took the stand down, I marked that tree and I can remember which tree it was. And and actually we had lunch there and everything at me and my wife. We went to Wildwick got some hogies and so it was and we went there and we and we sat there and we had our lunch. We were there for that good two hours. Like we didn't hear or see anything, but and we're looking for tracks and stuff and we didn't see nothing. But yes, definitely that kid everyone went bow hunted ever again. Yeah, and I see that you have a video about it on your channel. I'll definitely have that link in the show notes why comes out for sure shore. Yeah, you can go on my channel. It's called swamp Dog over Land Adventure and it's one of them.

31:17 I do videos, not shorts, but the videos, but you can hear about it. But that kid, I feel back for them. Have you ever thought of, let's say you're out in the woods bow hunting, and what if you actually do come across one of these creatures again face to face. It happened. It happened two or three weeks ago. Bring us through it, Okay. I wasn't And the first of all, I don't want to say where it was. But the only thing that I can say is it is not too far away from west Side Park, Okay, but I don't want to say where it was. And a lot of crazy stuff happened there in the past two or three weeks. The past two or three weeks, a lot of crazy stuff had happened. I didn't want. I had put a brand new blind up where I hunt, and usually when you put a new blind up, I like to leave it alone for a week or two. I don't want to be around up blind. I put my corn out, I put some of your apples. My wife got at the store and you kind of baited, you know, me about twenty yards away from my blind, and we walked away from it. Because you mean a lot of times when you put something like that on the ground and when a deer walks in, they look at it and said, wait a minute, that wasn't there yesterday. You know what I mean. I sid if you walk in your living room and somebody moved your chair, that chair was moved.

32:50 You know what I'm trying to say. We think that deer do. So when we put the blind out, we baid it and everything. We walked away from it, and I said to my wife, I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna hunt the power lines. So I left that area alone. It was raining that day, raining off and on, and the deer really wasn't moving. And I had walked, I say, about a mile and a quarter and there's a spot on the left side of the power line as you're walking up to it where I like to sit on my little hunt stool because I got trees, I got pine trees, I got bush.

33:34 I'm covered up pretty good. I could suck myself in there, real good. I'm texting my wife and I'm telling her where exactly I am in case something happens, and I wish she knows where I'm at. I was there only three four hours and I haven't seen no deer. I haven't seen no movement. I haven't even heard the kyro. Nothing, not even a squirrel. I haven't even I haven't even heard any birds. And I'm thinking maybe because it's raining off and on, maybe everything's just laying down. But every once in a while on the other side of the power lines, and it's about I don't know, I'm guessing fifty yards on the other side the power lines. I keep hearing like little snicks, like sticks are that are snapping, like somebody's walking and they're walking on sticks and the sticks are snapping.

34:36 And I'm saying to myself, that's not a deer, that's not a kyo. It could be a bear, because we do have bears here in South Jersey, up and down the pine barrens. There are bears down here, you know what I mean. And I'm thinking, maybe that's a bear because that's heavy enough to walk through the woods. It's not sticks, you know what I mean. Your deer ain't gonna do that. The squirrels ain't gonna do that, even if it was like a fifty or sixty times coyote. So we got that big down here and they're not gonna do this. I keep hearing sticks snapping, and you mean. I'm texting my wife, I says, I think there's a bear near me because I keep hearing the stick snapping, and so she just said, keep a lookout all that stuff.

35:22 And I'm looking. I got my brot, I got my binoculars, and I'm glassing, you know, I mean, all over the place, and I'm blasting behind me across the power of lines. I'm blasting down the powder of lines and all this stuff. And I don't see nothing, no sign of life anywhere, not even another hunter. I'm sitting there and eat my lunch. I had it. What do you call them little sausages? Oh yeah, I had a couple of cans of the Piana sausages and I'm mon, sit on them with crackers, and I'm having my coffee because maybe I can thun this a coffee. And everyone in a while I hear give me a little stick snapping. And that was bugging me because you usually don't hear that sometimes, and it was I don't know. I don't know about other like other states that they got bigger animals, but here in South Jersey, the only thing that's that will do that as a black bear or another human and a hunter is not gonna do that because they're trying to going to be trying to be as quiet as possible because they don't want to learn no deer like they're in the area. You know what I'm saying, I'm under a tree. I'm getting web, but not to that bad about those are like about three o'clock in the afternoon, I said, you know what, I had enough. There's nothing out here. I don't see nothing, I don't hear nothing except for these sticks snapping. I tacked up. I put my bag on the back of my shoulder. I grabbed my bow, and I

36:54 started walking down the power line. And I was right smack in the middle of the power line, just in case. I don't know, you know, saying, something come out the woods and charge me. I don't know. It could be a bear, whatever. I don't know. I don't see nothing. I'm in the middle of the paralyze and I got my head on a swivel. I get halfway down the para lines. I could see my truck. My truck's about halfway down the para line from me, and I caught something on my right side and I looked and I saw something dark but whatever it was a tree. I was knocked down. And you can tell the tree has been like that like for a couple of years, because the tree looked like it's rotted, you know what I mean. And so when I'm looking and looking, and I said, what think is that?

37:46 So you mean? At first I'm thinking, I was right, that's a bear. So I notched a narrow just in case. When I notched the arrow, I completely turned towards this dark object. It was squatting behind this tree that has fallen. And when I turned, it was about seventy five yards away from me. And when I turned, it stood up, and then I knew what it was. But the funny part is I didn't have an inch of fear in me. I was scared. I wasn't startled.

38:32 I just looked at it like the hell already again, like it's happening all over again. And I stood there and my arrow was notched on my bow and I shoot with a release, you know what I mean. And I was ready to shoot something if I had to. But I can't explain it, Grandma. I wasn't afraid. I wasn't scared, I wasn't startled. I was just like really like, and when it stood up, I named him the eight footer because that's what he was. He was eight foot and au we measured it. About three days later, me and my wife went back to the spot and she stood up there and actually she stood on the tree that fell, and we measured and it was around eight foot. I called it the eight footer. But what happened was that day it was about seventy five yards away and when I turned completely towards it, it came down towards me, and at fifty yards away from me, I started walking towards it, and when I started walking towards it, it stopped. And when it stopped, I stopped, and it looked at me, and you know how when adult's head left to right, that's what he did. And then I sick. This is weird because I said to it, I said,

40:08 I'm just hunting, just like what you're doing. I want to eat just like what you want to eat. And as I'm talking to it and I'm saying this, it was tilting its head okay, And all of a sudden, I got emotional and I started having tears coming down my eyes. And as I started getting tears coming down my eyes. It turned around and walked away and I stood there for about now I make two three minutes. I started walking towards my truck and I'm sweating and it wasn't wet because it was raining. I was sweating like like on my head because I was sweating, and you mean. And then what happened was I got to my true truck.

41:00 I put my bow and my backpack. I threw everything on the hood of my truck, opened the door, and I lit up a cigarette and I sat in my truck and the door was opened. As I'm smoking a cigarette, this other guy comes here and he was going to do some mozza loading hunting, and he parked next to me, and he asked me if I seen anything, and I said, I haven't seen anything all morning. I've been here all morning and I haven't even seen a scuroll. He said, yeah, I'm only able to hunt maybe two times a month. And I took a half a day off of work and I'm hunting today. I don't care. My phone's off. So he took his mosa loader out of the sock. I call it a socket. It looks like a long sock that you put your mosa loader in and he got it. He has a climber stand. He got it back. He says, have a good one, and I don't say nothing. He walked up the power line, sixty seventy yards up the power line, he stopped. Now min you this guy with gun ho about honey. He said he's only able to hunt maybe twice a month because of his jobbing this and that. He walked sixty seventy yards.

42:27 I'm watching him. I have my eyes on him all the way up. He walked sixty seventy yards. He stopped. He looked towards the left. He stood there maybe two or three minutes, turned around, and walked back to his truck. Threw everything in the back of his truck. He put his mother letter back in his sock, and he left. Never said a word to me. Really, yeah, he's seen what I seen, and he went home. Before he started walking up the paralyze, he was an all gun. No, he wanted to go bustle loading. He didn't care. He took a half a day work all this and that. He only walked sixty seventy yards up to paralyize. Stop. He stood there for about two three minutes, turned around, walked back to his truck and he left, never said a word to me, and I've never seen that truck ever again. Well, it might be a fun thing for you to try, is have you tried contacting local law enforcements and like the fish and wildlife in charge of that area. I became I don't want to say, very good friends, but I became friendly with a current servation officer I called gayboard.

43:50 I don't think he liked it that colon a gateboarding, but he's a conservation officer. I got friendly with him. Matter of fact, I got friendly with him enough that I got a cell number and he has mine. But I never mention it to him. I really don't want to mention it to him. I was going to beat him on the bush, yeah, I mean picked out his brain to see what he had to say. But I never did. And I've just seen him. I texted him Happy New Year and he text me back, Hey, Happy New Year. A swamp. So if he's here, just you know, like you who I am and all this stuff. So but now where I have my blind I have.

44:37 I don't say that my friends, but I know that because I see them all the time, and I don't know if I'm saying this right. But there was six Mexican Americans or American Mexicans, I don't know sure, but they do mean Dave bot hunt and they also use some mosa loads. And I've been seeing them and talking to him, and I've been given them information, and they'd be giving me information. Give me since you know, just dear give me, give me dear herself. Okay. So after I had that encounter, I never said nothing of it. I came home and told Tammy what happened, and then she said, well, you're gonna do You're gonna you're gonna keep bow hunting or what you wanna do. I said, yeah, I'm gonna keep bow hunting because this thing didn't bother me, and for some reason, I wasn't afraid. And when I tell you, this thing was eight butter. He was an eight butter wide, and he was thick. When he turned around, he was I'm thinking of myself, this thing's three feet thick. If I shot him with my arrow right, my arrows thirty inches, and my arrow if I ever shot something like that in the chest, my arrow would never go through. And my arrows are thirty inches exactly like it won't go out the back, you know what I mean. And I shot it and it got stuck and it what never went through. This thing was like me. That's like the width and the thickness

46:10 of this thing. It was like mind boggler, Like this thing will pick you up and rip you limb by limp and there's nothing you can do about it. Sure, did you get a good look at the face of the creature? The face? Then that's another thing too, Okay. My wife asked me about the face and I told her it was the same type of face that when I was on my motorcycle encounter. It was like ingred, the giant type of look face, but more like an Indian. That that's why when I hear people say, oh no, when I seen this thing up closed, I don't know what made me do this, Because they were seventy five yards away, and it was walking towards me. For what reason, I don't know, but for some reason in God's creation or whatever, I walked towards it, and it was walking towards me. And when it seen me walking towards it, it stopped. And that's when I said to it, look, I'm hunting just like you. Honting, I gotta eat, just like you gotta eat. As I'm talking to it, it was stood in its head and give me like a dog does. And I said, is that okay? And it did one tilt to the right, looked at me, and turned around walked away. And then that's when I walked towards the truck. But this thing had like a person's face, like an

47:45 I can say that kind of looks like Andre the Giant's face, but more Indian. So I don't know, you know what I mean. That's very interesting. Have you heard any any woodnocks or any like vocalizations in that same area? That's the thing when I hunt. This is all this I'm telling you happened two two and a half weeks Spand okay, now, one Saturday morning I couldn't go to my blind early because I had something to do. That's Saturday. It was a week after that encounter. So like that Saturday afternoon, me and my wife who went to my deer blind just to make sure everything was still up. Everything's good and Tammy she put coin out and stuff like that because she likes now be bait and stuff like that. When we pulled into my spot, when me and Tammy pulled out the six guys that I've been talking to sharing information with me about deer hunting, they were all there and they were all knocking just stands down, and they wasn't putting nothing neatly in the back of their truck. They were actually throwing stuffs in the back of the truck, their stands, their spikes they use, you mean, to hang their butt. They was just throwing everything, and they

49:15 were like scared. They were like really worried. And I'm like, yo, what's going on? You know what I mean? And they're like, oh, like I mean, they were telling me, like in Spanish, oh, that the devil's walking through here. There's something ebo going through here. It's the double And they were saying that the whole woods exploded, that the devil was in there making all kinds of noises like breaking tree branches, yelling, screaming, And they all came down the stands and they ran to the truck and they took off, and then that afternoon they came back with all their guns. They didn't have their bows, they had all their guns and they were knocking stands down one by one as one or two guys were knocking one stand down. They had maybe three or four around the tree watching and I'm thinking, what the heck's going on, you know, But they were telling me that the devil was running through there. The one kid told me it was like the woods exploded, and all they heard was screams, like evil screams and yelling, and it sounded like women was being ripped apart.

50:40 And these guys were scared. They were really scared. And then my wife looked at me. I looked at my wife. We knew what it was. We didn't say nothing. They just threw their stands in the back of their trucks and they took off. And they told me, if I knew any better like me, They said it in Spanish, that if I knew what was good for me, I would pack myself up to go hunt somewhere else. And I didn't say nothing. I just remember letting go and all that stuff. And I haven't seen not one of them guys in that area. And I've been at the power lines and I haven't seen them over there either, which is the power line and where I hunt is basically the same area. So you mean I can actually walk from my blind I had to walk through some thick woods, But you mean I could get to the power lines because I've already done it, and I haven't seen them guys no more. But they were then, guys were scared of these six guys, like they came there with guns just to knock your stands down. And I haven't seen them no more. That's wild. All this is happening in just the last few weeks. Yep, yep. And I'm the only one in that area that is hunting. I'm the only one and that area that's hunting.

52:13 If you walk through the woods, you don't see a deer stand. There's one blind at the entrance. But I haven't seen that guy hunt there. I don't know. I'm the only one that goes in there and hunts. And I go in there three four o'clock in the morning, and I don't use a flashlight, norguse me. I get out of my truck, I get my bow, I get all my hunt gear, and I walk to my blind at three four o'clock in the morning, and I'm in the and I'm in I complete darkness, and I don't hear see anything. I go right to my blind, zip it. I get in, I zip it and I don't open up my windows until maybe I've half houred before, like sunset. So now whatever this thing is knows that I'm in there.

53:10 And this is how I'm gonna tell you, because I don't know if he knows my truck. I don't know if he knows me. But it was a few times that I hunted all day and all afternoon, and I'm in my blind about four point thirty the sun goes down. I get out of my blind about five o'clock and it's dark. When I get to my truck, I find maybe rocks on my hood, or I find maybe sticks on my hood. Something's telling me that they know that I'm there, or they're gifted me. I don't know. I don't know. But every time I come to my truck, I find something on my hood. Not all the time. Once in a while I find something on my hood and they leave me alone. It's the creatures that's leaving stuff from my hood. They know where my blind is, and they're leaving me alone. They don't bother me or nothing. Now I do hear wood knocks, and I hear a couple of wood knocks from different areas, like when I hear the first wood knock.

54:28 Then a few minutes later I hear another wood knock and another area but not too far and it's not too hot, and it's not too far from my hunt blind. I know they know that I'm there, and they know that I know that they're there, but they haven't bothered me. I can tell you they haven't bothered me. And actually, when I get out of my truck or five o'clock in the morning, I have a GPS on my phone, and my wife can see when I'm walking through the woods that little blue dot and blanks blinks, blinks, planks as I'm walking. And when I get my blind, I unfold my front chair and I sit there.

55:12 I checked Sammy, I'm in my blind. I'm okay, so that she goes back to sleep. But they haven't bothered me. Now me and my wife go back there all the time. They haven't bothered us. One time it was actually it was the other day when we last faded my blind. There was rocks on my hood when we came back. Now, mind you, my truck's about I'm about what sixty seventy yards away from my blind where I parked my truck and then I walk down to my blind. I'm about sixty seventy yards away from my blind where I parked my truck. I didn't hear or see anything and were and when we came back to the truck after we got dumb to baton with corn and stuff like that, there was rocks on my hood that people must say that, oh, he's bullshit or he's crazy. This is what's happening. And I'm the only one hunting in that area, and you're keeping this area under wraps, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to mess in this area because I don't want I don't want a hundred people going through there, you know what I mean, Because one, I've been working this area hard. Because you know what I mean, I don't know, I don't know. It's hard to say, but like when I seen it at seventy five yards and that day happened, I got very emotional and a lot of things were going through my head,

56:45 like my dad dying and all kinds of weird stuff going through my head, and I got very emotional. And when that encounters ended, I walked back to my truck. I just had to sit down and I was then when this guy came up in his truck, the one that was muzzle loading, and he was talking to me for a while, and I was like maybe five minutes he was talking to me, he started walking up and then he came back and never said a word to me. It's weird because you're having a conversation with a guy, you walk halfway up to power line, then you turn around, walk back, and you don't say nothing to the guy you were just having a conversation with. You throw everything in your truck and you take off. Yeah, it's very suspect. Yeah, and he was gone hole about going mozzer loading, haunting, you know what I mean.

57:37 And I just I grabbed my bow, I grabbed my bag, I throw in the back of the truck in my back seat. I took off and I was very emotional that day. I mean after I got home, I was really emotional because I was thinking about it, and then all this stuff was going through my head, like when my dad passed in a way, and I mean, all the bad things that happened to me in life in the past. All this stuff was going through my head. But yeah, so, I mean, this is what's been going on with me, Absolutely wild that's a wild update. I would hope that someone listening to this maybe they've experienced something similar in the same area. And like, I just have a feeling someone's going to put something in the comments, dude, or even like they'll check out your channel and you'll get a comment like the same.

58:30 Yeah, I only got sixty one subscriber because I haven't really gotten into my YouTube channel. That hard because I don't know which direction I want to go with this, you know, I mean, it just make it swamp. Yeah, but this stuff's been happening to me, and honestly, I know they're there. I've been noised since eighty nine, but I have my person cap. But now I'm going in these woods, like I said, three four o'clock in the morning. Sometimes I go in there at five, And you mean, I just want to go in there before the deer wakes up, and you mean they get out of their bedding area. But I'm telling you, I walk through there like I'm in peace. I feel safe, and I don't have my flash light on or nothing. I know exactly where my groundblind is. I get in and I'm quiet. I got my phone on mute, and all I do is text my wife back and forth, you know what I mean. And but they I think they're leaving me alone. I don't know. I don't know if they know my truck, if they know me, or they're saying this guy's okay. I don't know, because I'm gonna tell you. These six guys, they're good guys, but they like to tear up the property area. Sure, they're always throwing trash on the ground. They're cutting this, they're cutting that. You know.

1:00:00 Me, I just they don't treat the public land like it's supposed to be treated. You know what I'm saying. I pick up after myself. So I don't know if that's it. I don't know. But they whatever happened to these guys, they got the hell out of there and they never came back. So yeah, so that's what's going on there. I don't know. You got to keep your head out, swivel out there, swamp dog for sure. Yeah. But you know what though, I don't know. I mean, it's hard to explain. But like I'm telling you, like that day when I saw it and it stood up and I was like, I'm looking at his eyes and he's looking in my eyes. For some reason, I can't explain why I had no fear. And when it was walking towards me, as like I said, I walked right towards it.

1:00:57 And when I did that, it was like, what the hell? You know? I mean, this guy's not running away or you know what I'm saying. This is what I'm thinking, you know what I mean. And then I got frustrated and said, look, i'm here. You know what I mean. I had to eat just like you. So I mean, I'm hunting. I'm not doing nothing wrong. I'm not breaking nothing, I'm not disturbing nothing, I'm not destroying anything. This is what I'm saying. His thing and was tooted in his head left her, But this is what's going on, and it just turned around and walked away. Yeah, smiled, smiled, Yeah, I'm you know what I mean. I wanted to mention something to the conservation officer and see what he had to say. I was gonna make maybe make a joke about Bigfoot and see what he had to say. You know, I mean, trying to try to bait him and see what he had to say. But next time, if you ever did, you should Yeah, because I mean I see him at least once a week, you know what I mean, because he goes to all the places too, that's not just this area, but it's I want to ask him to see what he has to say for sure. But these six guys, I haven't seen them no more. And then, like I'm saying, the other two guys that I was talking to, I haven't seen them either.

1:02:14 I'm the only one that goes there and I'm the only one hunting that area. So I don't know what happened two guys. But these guys, they are spending a lot of money on corn, apples and all this stuff, and all of a sudden they disappear. That don't make no sense. I'm not gonna buy one hundred dollars worth of stuff to bake these deer and not come back. I'm not gonna do. Yeah, yeah, I don't make no sense, you know what I mean. But like I said, I haven't seen anybody in their hunting, And like I said that, they can't give me. The conservation officer. I see him once a week and he's in there maybe about an hour and he's gone. Yeah. I don't know, but yeah, that's what's going on. I just it's weird because I watch other shows on YouTube, and I'm not gonna mention no names or nothing like that. And I don't want to do upset anybody. I don't care, Okay, I don't want to upset anybody that's out there. But I just can't understand. I'm in southern New Jersey. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm in a small state, small area where I'm at, and I'm seeing these things. There's people traveling all over the country and they never seen nothing. I don't know how that can be. And these guys are going into Alaska, they're going all over Canada, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, and they've never seen anything. And here I am, I'm just bunding my own business, doing what swamp Dog does and I'm having

1:03:49 these encounters and you, I don't know if they're getting me by leaving stuff from my hood, like I said, rock sticks or whatever. But I don't know. I don't know. If I don't know, I'm thankful that you're able to keep updating me with what's going on. But I appreciate talking to you guys. Yeah, I just I don't know what it is Deremaha. But it's like I said, I know they're there, they know I'm there. They haven't bothered me. Really, that that's the God's on his truth. They haven't bothered me there. I do hear one knocks. I do hear sometimes I hear like a howl or a scream, but not often.

1:04:30 Once in the blue moon, same place. But I'm just sitting there, you know what I'm saying, And I'm hoping they're not coming through here and you're trying to run down my blind. Wow, I'm in it, you know what I'm saying. But I have They haven't bothered me. They haven't bothered me. But I haven't seen no deer either. I haven't seen Okay, I've hear a couple of squirrels, couple of birds. I haven't seen anything. The only time we see one dough, it was like eight o'clock at night, and that's because I was driving through there to make sure my blind was all right because it was a weddy night the day before, and we went in there about eight o'clock at night and I seen one dough.

1:05:15 So I don't know. I mean, I don't know if that's messing with my hunting because they're in there. I don't know, you mean, I can't say, but I haven't seen anything. It's definitely. It's a developing story for sure, and I definitely And the thing is, we're moving to Tennessee forty serious. Remember I'm leaving New Jersey. So you know, I don't care what happens in New Jersey because I really don't like to state. I like the people, I just don't like to state, and I like the government in New Jersey. But I'm not trying to make New Jersey famous because I'm leaving New Jersey. I'm going to eastern Tennessee and that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life. I willing. I'm not trying to make New Jersey famous. But you know what I'm saying, this is what's going on. It's big Foot Central down there. For sure.

1:06:05 I believe people should be coming down here and doing some kind of research or something, because I'm gonna tell you so everywhere I go, like in the beginnings, everybody's like, oh, that's a big foot researcher. That's one dollars. No, I'm not a bigfoot researcher. I'm not not at that. I'm just like you. I'm hunting fishing, enjoying life, you know, I mean, but everybody's oh that's a big foot researcher. I mean, I go down the street, Oh that's a big foot researcher. I don't know a lot of people listening to your show down in South Jersey, So I don't know I appreciate it or like you. But I know they're listening because they're hearing like me. They so that's what it is. But it's been fun as always chatting with you, sir, Yes, sir, please keep me. Oh I always do you. I mean, whenever I or something or find out something, I always leave a message. I don't know you get my messages or not. But I gotta start email again.

1:07:08 I'll be honest. I get a lot of day swamp dog email is the best way, because dude, it is getting to the point where it is overwhelming. But I love it. You can't you can't even imagine. But I wake up every day and there's tons of emails. But yeah, that is the best way, definitely to reach out. But dude, it's getting I know it's getting laid out there. I'm gonna let you. Oh no, we're good. I'm up all night. I know you're not. A matter of fact, actually, when I get the phone with you, I'm going to head back in the woods and down down on my Yeah. Oh jeez, be careful. I'm not going to get out of the truck.

1:07:48 I'm just gonna sit here and look, just sit in my truck and just sit there. I'll tell you what. I still got a nine to five and it's the early one, so I gotta jet out. But you guys are I'll be chatting with you later. Okay. Oh yes, sir, thank you, and you mean, have a good night, all right. Be safe. You're at Bigfoot Society. Our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and is safe. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest. Because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening