Jan. 8, 2026

The Missionary and the Sasquatch | Oklahoma

The Missionary and the Sasquatch | Oklahoma
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Season 1

Join Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society as he dives into firsthand Bigfoot encounters and spiritual experiences with Jason Cowen. Jason shares his remarkable stories from the Oklahoma area, discussing Bigfoot encounters, telepathy, and mystical ceremonies. Discover how Jason's beliefs and experiences intersect with his background in public school education and Christian ministry. This episode delves into the fascinating world where faith, mysticism, and the elusive Bigfoot converge.

Contact Jason here: jasoncowen31@yahoo.com

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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I pick for the Society. You've got the privilege of

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talking to Jason Cowan today. Jason is an individual that

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I got connected to that has some things to share

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from down there in the Oklahoma area. We'll go over

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that a little bit more to come, But about Jason specifically,

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he has a background in public school education and also

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in Christian ministry, specifically as a youth pastor. Correct Jason,

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that's correct, awesome And is there anything else that the

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listeners might want to know before we get going into

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what you've experienced over the years.

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Uh, that's pretty much yet, Other than I mean you know,

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part of my religious beliefs this the things I've experienced

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should never have happened. And once you experience it, you

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have a paradigm shift and you have just a few

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seconds to decide, Hey, your your thoughts and your beliefs

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have to change and can kind of make you dizzy

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when that happens.

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Man, That's that's a great place to start. I actually

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want to talk about that for a minute. So are

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you cool with saying the area that this happened into

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in Oklahoma?

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Absolutely absolutely. I'm you know, quite certain that others have

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had experiences in that area, the Native Americans. You know,

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we were part of a ministry that, you know, besides

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youth ministry, I got into mission work, and that the

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home that we live in there served as a mission

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base for many years where volunteer teams would come from

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all of the country and they would bunk there and

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have their meals and their devotions, and they would go

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and serve the Cherokee Nation people at their public schools

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and then their local churches. And so we got to

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know the Native American fellowship there quite well. And we've

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heard stories that go way back where they you know,

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hunted with Bigfoot, and I would trade with Bigfoot for

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protection and to protect from the bears and the wolves

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and the Kai, and I'm pretty sure maybe from Bigfoot himself. Right. Absolutely,

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here's some food they speak highly of and of course

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very reverently of Bigfoot, absolutely very special to them.

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So this is we're going to be in an area

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that's near the Cherokee Nation, specifically in the area of

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like Kansas, Oklahoma.

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Correct, that's correct, the town of Kansas. Now probably the

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biggest town would be Talliquah on the Oklahoma side. And

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then we have Salomon Springs, Arkansas, about thirteen miles from us.

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Fantastic. Before we get into it right off to that,

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I think the first statement that you made is extremely

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interesting because so I am also I'm a Christian myself,

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and I know exactly actly what you're talking about when

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you're saying that there are certain parts of Christianity where

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they don't really want to dig into this and deal

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with this at all. And can you, in your words,

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can you go into what you mean by by what

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you said during those statements.

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So uh, I think it's you know, in the scriptures

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that we have available to us in the Bible, it

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mentions many things that is really never touched on in

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sermons and in services that I've been involved in. It's

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like a nozone, an area that they can't really explain.

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And yet you know, if you look at other historical

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texts and you combine all of those things, it begins

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to make sense. You know, they talk about the giants

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and and the the fires in the sky and the wheels,

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you know, many things that indicate that we are not

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you know, the human race is not the only uh

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species that exists. And two to avoid that I think

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is doing a huge disadvantage to Christians and non Christians alike.

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We are, I believe, special in the creation the order

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of things in that we have the likeness of our

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Creator and his spirit in us. I'm not saying that

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all others don't, but I believe that there was something

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special about us that we we kind of never touch

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on when we ignore the fact that there are other

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aspects of creation that, in particular the Bigfoot where they're

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finding the DNA is very similar to ours with a

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few exceptions. And so you know, who's to say that

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they don't have the same type of relationship with the Creator,

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if not, maybe even a closer one because they didn't

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allow for certain things to change their spirituality, if you

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will that. I mean, I'll get on later on into

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into the discussion about some things that make me believe

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that that case that they are spiritual as well. And so, yeah,

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that's my pastor. He he's deceased now, but he was

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a rare breed in the sense that he spoke about

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the possibilities of our creation being of a extraterrestrial being,

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and spoke of UFOs being very likely impossible, and and

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so you know that kept my mind opened a little bit,

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if you would, in that regard. He never really mentioned

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Bigfoot or you know, the other creatures of the night

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that the dog man and and so forth. And I

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M it's very likely that the encounters I've had involved both,

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if not the skin walker guy. I don't think uh

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as as been something that I've experienced, But you know,

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there's lots of the cryptids that we hear about that

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I now today, after my experiences, there's no reason that

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I should doubt those who have spoken of their experiences

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in all of those areas. Absolutely, it's just too many

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to say, hey, that's not right or it's not true.

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I mean, I can't imagine being in a state like

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Oklahoma and being in ministry and the things you must

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run into. It's got to be intense. I mean, there's

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just so many stories I've heard over the years of

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everything from Bigfoot to dog Man and all sorts of weirdness.

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So you must be really up against it all the time.

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I would imagine, yeah.

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Yeah, well it's you know, I don't speak about it

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to everyone, but you know, I'm getting to the point,

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you know, I really don't care what anyone thinks about me,

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particularly you know, I'm a kind person. I'm good to people.

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I follow the word of the Lord as far as

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how I treat people, and and but if they want

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to think I'm crazy because of some experiences I've had,

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so be it. It's not going to change anything that

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I believe. And and it's certainly not going to take

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away the experiences that I've had, and and most of

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the encounters have been it's sometimes fearful, but never did

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I feel like I was in danger. Okay, so you know,

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I don't believe that Bigfoot is evil and or a demon,

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and some of those Christian circles that would acknowledge the

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existence would say that, and I just don't believe that

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at all.

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Yeah, I would say, I mean most of the interviews

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were the individual is in Christianity the I would say

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a great amount of them. It usually comes over to

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Bigfoot is some type of nephilim or perhaps demon. And

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so I think this will be a really interesting interview

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because it's going to be a viewpoint that's not really

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talked about a lot. And before we get into it

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more for my context, do you associate more with a

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certain denomination within Christianity or so it's.

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A non denomination, uh, you know, simbly of God. I've

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got that in a Baptist background, a little bit of

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Pentecostal and so. But my primary area was in a

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non denominational church and spirit field as they called it.

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Okay, that's not anything more special, Okay, I would say,

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but certainly an area that I was raised up in

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and I got to experience a lot of the different denominations,

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but that's the one that kind of.

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Stuck with me, gotcha.

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Yeah, Okay, Okay, that's good to know. I think that

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helps out, That helps out a lot for context for

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some listeners. Well, Jason, I think that's a great kind

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of intro into things. But you feel free to take

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us back to when things started kicking off for you,

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when you started to maybe notice what was going on.

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Sure, So when it comes to just bigfoot in general,

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my first introduction as a child to bigfoot maybe even

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for a lot of people my age. I was born

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in nineteen seventy seven, and so there was a time

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when I was young that this movie came out called

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Harry and the Hendersons, and before that I'd never heard

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of My parents didn't speak about bigfoot, you know, it

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wasn't stories that we heard growing up, and so my

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impression of a bigfoot. Of course, at that time, we

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wanted to believe he was real, and so me and

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my siblings would talk about it and talk about one

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day seeing a bigfoot because we believed he would be

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like the one on Harry and the Henderson's real, funny

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and caring and and jolly at times, and and harmless.

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And but there was nothing really that, you know, solidified

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our belief, my belief in particular at that time, just

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the curiosity was aroused by by that, and growing up

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it was just something in the back of my head

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at times, and then we would. I would see documentaries,

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you know, on TV, and one in particular was the

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first where I began to become more seriously interested. Was

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hearing about the muddy, boggy creature and and but that

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wasn't that was more of a frightening tale, and that

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he was dangerous, and and that wasn't you know something

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that that I stuck with. My first introduction was, like

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I said, Harry from Harry and the Henderson's, and I

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wanted to believe if he was real, he would be

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more like that. And so but my belief really became solidified,

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and it wasn't even an encounter with Bigfoot necessarily. My

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mother and I were standing on her porch outside, and

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I happened to notice because at the time I was

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living in the city and when I would go to

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the country, I could see the stars a lot. Here

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they're much brighter and more vivid. And I pointed out

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to her, I said, look how bright and brilliant everything is.

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And I saw amongst the stars, way way up there,

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this what appeared to be a star. I mean, from

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that distance, it looked like a star, but it went

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from one point and zigzagged back and forth on a

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dime what must have been thousands of miles an hour,

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and then shot off like like I mean, it just disappeared,

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you could. I saw it go a certain direction, but

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then it vanished. And immediately everything I believed, everything I

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was taught, came into question. And it's like an instant

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where all of your beliefs suddenly you have no option

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but to you change what you believed. And I became

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warm and kind of dizzy. It's like the that paradigm

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shift where you just have no choice but to call

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into question now and have certain things where you acknowledge

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I've got to start looking into some things. And I

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looked at my mother and I said, did you see that?

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And she says, you tell me what you saw. Neither

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one of us what we wanted to see. Hey, did

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you see what I saw? And we both saw it.

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And it was at that moment I realized that everything

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that I've heard about, all these other sightings from Bigfoot

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to the Luckless Monster and all of these cryptids that

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I now. It was like it solidified my belief in

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those and they had to be real. If this was real,

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then all of these people can't be wrong and we'll

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get to now the Bigfoot encounter. This began shortly so

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where we live. Like I said, it was part of

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the Cherokee Nation. They owned this land and then they

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sold it to a developer I think in the seventies.

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And so there are a lot of you know, from

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arrowheads and different artifacts that I was finding just below

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the surface our land there. And so I began to

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excavate the property from time to time and it would

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carry on until the evenings about nine ten o'clock and

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I'd have these very bright lights on. And before that,

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we didn't stay at the property. We had multiple base

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locations around the country and in Puerto Rico and in

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Cuba where we would take teams of volunteers, and so

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these properties they weren't lived in all the time, and

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so there's maybe three months out of the year where

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it was used. Well, we were now staying there full time,

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and we had neighbors behind us, but that was kind

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of their camp house. They were hardly there maybe twice

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a year, and so it was really a zone where

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people weren't around much of the time. And so I

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believe that that is why when we moved in full

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time and I begin to do some work on the

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grounds and it would carry on to the night that

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it created a disturbance, you know, for big And at

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this moment, I had no inkling that they were around,

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at least up there. And but a few nights after

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I had a few late nights at nine ten o'clock

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at nights started being thrown from the woods. Now we

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have neighbors, but they are maybe quarter a mile away

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on another road in each direction. We have neighbors on

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our road, but they're further down. And but they were

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coming from a part of the wooded area that nobody

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lived and nobody was at. But I thought, well, maybe

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there's somebody, you know, that's pranking me. But I began

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to notice they were with accuracy. I mean, I knew

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that if they wanted to hit me with these rocks,

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they would have they could have. That's that's the feeling

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I got. I didn't feel frightened necessarily, although there were

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times I felt like I was being watched. I would

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hear things coming from the woods. Now there are a

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lot of deer, and so I always put it off

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on you know, that's probably what it was. Many times,

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and I always tried to, you know, rule things out

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and and and and because if if something is real,

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I wanted to make sure. I wanted to rule everything

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out as much as possible, and and so, but these

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rocks kept being thrown, and this went on for a

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couple of weeks, even after I turned off the lights

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and was finished with what I was doing, and I

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became angry and I began to shout out to whoever

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was throwing these stones. I said, look, if you're gonna

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throw rocks at me, next time, you better hit me.

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It started off kind of light and funny, but that's

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at that point I was like, this is no game.

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And because they were being thrown with force, and I

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kept telling my my he was my boss at the time,

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and then I became his caretaker. He retired and the

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mission work ceased, and so I told him about it,

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but he hadn't experienced anything. One night, we were outside

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and I was cooking on the grill and this was

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outside on a deck area that is exposed, and out

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of nowhere here comes the rock and it was thrown

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at him and landed right next to his feet, and

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it was probably three inches in diameter, pretty good size.

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And I said, see, I told you, somebody or something

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has been throwing rocks, and when we looked at I said, what,

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who or what could it be? And it was interesting

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because it was like, at the same exact time we

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both had I don't know if it was telepathy or what,

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but we both said bigfoot. And from that moment on,

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it was like we had some kind of connection and

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things begin to increase. And so there were times just

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out of nowhere. I would be working in the shop

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and would walk out. I was also working on an

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RV and I would hear these deep guttural growls. Sometimes

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it would be hisses, noises I've never heard before. I

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became familiar with the different sounds of the night coming

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from the woods out there, and these were things that

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sent chills down my spine. Again, I never felt like

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I was in danger, but I felt like I was

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interrupting something and I should go inside. And I later

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came to believe that that was their hunting time and

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I was potentially scaring off their food. And so you know,

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there are other times where and this went on. It's

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like seasonal, if that makes sense at all. It's almost

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as though they would travel through that area. And I

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also believe at some point there was a family of

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them who would travel and we had the sense and

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we never have seen them. We've never visually seen the Sasquatch,

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but we knew as we begin to research and look

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into people's encounters and experiences, that we were having the

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same experiences and encounters that they were having. From the

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sounds we would hear. I mean, at times the entire

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house would shake like a giant stomping through the grounds.

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And then occasionally like somebody would would be speaking outside

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the walls, but not in English, I mean, and very

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clearly it was chatter, some some form of communication. At

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at times we've heard our names being called and it

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wasn't clear English. But you know, we would be out,

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you know, working on the property and we would call

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to each other, you know, hey bring me this tool,

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or Hey, what's your your status on this? And we

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would use name our names, and and uh what we thought, Well,

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who who's out there that's calling our name? And my friend,

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my roommate, he heard as he his side of the

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the the housing there he said it was a hello,

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but not again, not in in plain English, but it

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was like somebody trying to speak English, and it was

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clear enough he heard hello, but you know, he was

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like me. He would just get the feeling of just

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go inside, and again, never felt like we were in danger,

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but there was that sense of fear. You know, you

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would get shields up and down your spine, and many

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times it would begin with the smell of a skunk

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mixed with a wet dog, and that you would have

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no activity, You would just smell that, I mean heavily

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in the area. And and so you know, that was

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some of the the more tangible, if you will, experiences

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that we've had that I've had, especially I spent most

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of the time outside in the summer and in the

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spring and early fall, and a lot of these things

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were the more physical side of my experiences. And then

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one night in particular, it was a late night, I

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was reflooring my RV and I was working in the

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bathroom area, and you know, those windows in the bathroom

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are pretty high up in my RV, I would say,

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eleven feet off the ground, and I heard it sounded

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like somebody ran by and slapped the side of the RV,

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and I thought, well, they had to jump pretty high,

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and so I run outside to see who it was,

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and there was nobody there. I did hear any footsteps

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running from the scene, but it was at that moment

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this would be the first experience where I became frozen,

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and I had my phone in my pocket, but it

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was like I couldn't if I really really wanted to.

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I think I could have moved to reach for my

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phone to make a call, to call for help, but

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I didn't feel like I was in danger. It was

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like I was put in a trance and a very

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mystical feeling came over me. It wasn't long, maybe fifteen

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twenty minutes, and finally I thought, man, I really need

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to come out of this. I need to make myself

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come out of this. And I texted my former boss,

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my roommate man I was being caretaker for, and I said,

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I need you to come out here. I'm kind of stuck.

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And so he came out and grabbed my arm and

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helped me up the stairs. And it wasn't like I

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was disable old or completely not able to function, but

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it was just a mesmerizing experience. And and that was

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really the first what I would call like a spiritual

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or a I mean, it's hard to explain, and I

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didn't really relate that to being Bigfoot. In fact, it

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wasn't feel about a year later where I begin to

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hear the telepathy side of things, And but I had

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other experiences that were very spiritual, and I would almost

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say that Bigfoot had, you know, and other other things

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in that area. Rather that ground was a religious ground

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or a place where they did conducted ceremonies, whether it

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be the Native Americans at the time, were even well

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beyond that where it became very mystical, and I was

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very peaceful. The air was filled with electricity, and the

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sounds of the forests were just filled with energy, and you.

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Could see I saw what I wouldn't say shadow people,

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but I saw images coming out of the forest, but

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they were like silhouettes, and all of these images came

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out and they were there surrounding the area.

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Having the same experiences and I had. In fact, this

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went on for about two hours, and it was about

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one in the morning when all everything subsided and I

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said out loud, I said, thank you for allowing me

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to be part of this ritual. I mean, it was

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it was like I without ever hearing about anything like that,

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It's like I sensed that that was what was taking place,

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and either it was connected to Bigfoot, but I always

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had that sense that that he was connected there were

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they were connected to those things. And I had that

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experience multiple times, and that generally happened in the summer

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summer days, and those those I will never forget and

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and and feel very privileged because you know, in the

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Christian world, having you know where the quotes, the spirit

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moves in those services, those were always the good services.

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And this was like the Creator was part of it.

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Like it wasn't the same, but it wasn't different. It was.

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It was just it was more of nature involved in

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in this, in the in the worship, if you will,

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of creation of the Creator and a oneness unification of everything,

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and and it was almost a sense of of that

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that is a very very real spiritual experiences without all

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of the denominational attachments and preconceived teachings of what it's

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supposed to be. I had something that was very what's

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the term not generic, organic, if you will, Because I

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wasn't expecting that. It just began and I I chose

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to stay. I felt like, hey, we want you to

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be a part of something, is what it was. And

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so I consider myself if that is what it was.

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I consider myself very very fortunate and somewhat unworthy of

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having that encounter, having that experience, because it showed me

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a side of things that, you know, God the Creator

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is much bigger, his his camp is much bigger than

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what we believe it to be, and is much more

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real than the preconceived religious services that we as people

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have come to know as true. And so not saying

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that it's not real or true, but there's just much

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more than we don't know. And it's because we aren't

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taught and told of these things that are in scripture

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that really should be dealt with, and some you know,

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the churches need to acknowledge those things, I think. And

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so there are other experiences that we've had. In particular,

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I had a friend over and I'd been telling him

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about some things taking place. He lives in the same

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area just outside of the gates, and he was assisting

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me with some repairs to the engine of my ORV

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and I said, watch this. And I had never done

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this before, but I had heard of the wood knocks.

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So I picked up a big, big, large branch that

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was laying there on the ground, and I slapped a

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tree with it twice, and I really wasn't expecting anything.

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I just wanted to. I thought maybe somewhere in the

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distance we would hear wood knock, and probably with the

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twenty yards from us, what was a very large guttural growl,

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and that that I did since fear. It was like

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the wood knock was probably something I shouldn't have done.

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I don't know what it is communication wise, if it

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was good or bad. I just had heard about it

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on these shows. And my friend left immediately and has

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never been back, and so he says that wasn't. I

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have a very bad feeling, he said, but he believes

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me now that these things have been going on. And

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the very next night, I thought, you know, whatever, if

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I offended them with that, I would I don't. I

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don't want them to be offended or feel threatened or

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anything of that nature. And so I made peace offering,

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and I cooked on the grill a couple of steaks,

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and I walked them down toward that area. I was

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going to hang them from a branch on one of

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the trees, was really my intention. And before I was

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able to do that, I heard and it was much

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much stronger than I could have ever attempted. It had

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to be a much larger branch, but it was two

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wood knocks that came from that general area, and of

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course I frozen my steps and I said, okay, I

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won't come any closer, and I just threw those steaks

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that direction, turned around and walked back up to the house.

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And it's it's interesting they have a way of putting

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that sense of fear, but for me, it was not

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a sense of deadly fear. It was it was just

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a warning, Hey, don't come any closer. You know, you're

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in a erupting is what it felt like. But I

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didn't feel like it hated me or wanted to harm me.

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It was just a sense of you're messing up what

465
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:18.559
we have going on here. And I really believe it

466
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.079
was a matter of that's the time they hunt, and

467
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.840
as humans, we have the dayline hours and they get

468
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:32.519
the nighttime hours. And so the few other things that

469
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.960
that we've experienced are these orbs. And this is not

470
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.440
just myself but other visitors that have been there, These

471
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.960
blue orbs that go through the woods and just slowly

472
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.320
move about. It's around that same time when we would

473
00:35:49.400 --> 00:36:00.400
have these other experiences things disappearing and reappearing UFO sidings. Again.

474
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.320
I turned my eyes to the sky at some point

475
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:09.559
and began to notice these fast moving objects and zipping

476
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.440
across the sky up there and the other last thing

477
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:17.800
to touch on. Lots and lots and lots of paranormal activity.

478
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.679
Of course, I come to expect that that it is

479
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.440
more likely related to the fact that lots of people,

480
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:31.079
a lot of lives many years ago in the Native Americas,

481
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.199
due to the fact that there were lots of battles

482
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.360
that took place, and lots of slaughtering that that took

483
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:46.440
place in that area. And the paranormal activity I also

484
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:53.960
attributed to that experience, that very spiritual experience. It wasn't

485
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.440
it was It wasn't just a bigfoot thing. I believe

486
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:05.119
it was also those souls that would come back almost

487
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:10.719
seasonally and have these these religious ceremonies, if you will,

488
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:18.400
and and these these things are reoccurring. Uh. Now we

489
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:22.199
have now neighbors behind us, where it was maybe twice

490
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.280
a year, now we have full time neighbors, so a

491
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.119
lot of the physical activity has subsided. But we still

492
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.320
smell the smells, we still feel the feelings and we respect.

493
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:38.679
We have a lot of respect for uh sasquatch and

494
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:44.039
and and the the creatures that live in the area.

495
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.440
At one point we put up cameras to try to

496
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.760
capture them, and I thought, you know what, that's the

497
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:55.119
last thing we need to do is drum up a

498
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.719
lot of attention where they could be hunted. And so

499
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.280
you know, we just do that and decided we want

500
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:08.159
to be peaceful, cooperative neighbors. And so that's kind of

501
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.079
the story of it all. And you know, I've asked

502
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.360
him not to show himself to me. I now know that,

503
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.719
based on others experiences, you can speak with your mind

504
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.920
to them and they can hear you. And if that's

505
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.519
the case, I've told them many times I'm not ready

506
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.599
yet to see you, but one day I would like

507
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.119
to see you. I'll let you know when i'm ready.

508
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.960
Right now, I think I would mess my pants and

509
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:44.119
and it wouldn't be a good thing. But other than that,

510
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.159
that is has been my experience, and I'm looking forward

511
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:55.559
to to more of them. I'm very intrigued and and

512
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.639
would like to to at some point. I don't want

513
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.159
to go hunting for bigfoot, but I do know that

514
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:07.159
if you are open to him and just pay attention

515
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:12.800
a little closer, you might see signs, especially if you

516
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:18.599
live in an area that he has a potential bigfoot spot. Yeah,

517
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:26.159
so that pretty much. I'm sure there were other other

518
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:30.960
incidents that took place that kind of weave in and out,

519
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:39.079
but I wanted to point out the bigger, more memorable.

520
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:43.079
Ones to you, Jason, That's that's really really interesting stuff.

521
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:52.400
I don't think I've ever had anyone from I guess

522
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:58.360
you could say Christianity side even come close to describing

523
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.599
stuff like that. It's really interesting because and I want

524
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.360
to make sure I even heard it right, because pretty

525
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:13.400
much you were saying that like when you have when

526
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.039
you have like a church service and the Holy Spirit

527
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.800
is really moving and some of the listeners will get

528
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:26.800
this where you tell like Holy Spirit is there, right,

529
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:31.039
you're saying that pretty much the same thing happened in

530
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.960
this area out in the woods with the bigfoot activity.

531
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:42.079
In a way, yes, yes, very very very peaceful. Yeah,

532
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.480
very energetic, and it was like all of nature was

533
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.320
silent but humming. It was like a buzz of excitement

534
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.559
and oh yeah, I get that. I didn't want it

535
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.840
to stop, but it was like it at its beginning

536
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:05.119
and then it had its conclusion, and it lasted for

537
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:11.480
a couple of hours, and I kept telling my friend Mick,

538
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.119
I said, you know, this is happening, and I would

539
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.239
he would do, well, next time it happens, come in

540
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.199
and let me know. I said, Well, when it happens,

541
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:23.559
I kind of don't want to leave. And so one

542
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.639
night I was able, Hey, come on out if you

543
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.679
want to, it's happening now. And so he stood out

544
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.000
there with me for about forty five minutes and experienced

545
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:39.280
that with me, and so it was both nice that

546
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.719
somebody else got to be a part of that, but

547
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:46.760
also confirmed that what I was experiencing wasn't just in

548
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.119
my mind. It wasn't just I wasn't in need of

549
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.320
a straight jacket and put in a padded room, which

550
00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.960
you know, the first time I thought, am I going

551
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.519
crazy here? So, and I'm sure everybody the first thing

552
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:09.320
they think is, oh, I might need some help. But

553
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.920
when you have others, you know, especially somebody that that

554
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:17.840
is having some of these experiences along with you, And

555
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:24.559
then you have guests who, like many times I wouldn't

556
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.679
bring it up, but they may would say I feel

557
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.039
like somebody is watching me, and it's coming from this direction.

558
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:33.960
I just I keep looking over here. One of them said,

559
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.960
my attention keeps getting drawn to that area over there,

560
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.559
and I said, well, interestingly enough, and I dive into it,

561
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:51.320
and it's just the feeling. It's very, very real, And

562
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:59.199
without ever seeing him physically, he lets you know he's there,

563
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:06.960
and I say he because the dominant one, the male figure.

564
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.280
And we have since decided, the two of us, that

565
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:15.199
there's a male and a female and a young one,

566
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.519
and the young one is the one that kind of

567
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:20.000
likes to play tricks on us, that he has fun.

568
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:24.079
He has a good time with this, and you know,

569
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:28.760
we'll hear, you know, like one minute he'll be at

570
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.840
the front part of the property, the next minute he's

571
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.920
the backside of the property. And really, before I knew

572
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.480
it was going on, I would go through the house

573
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.280
and I say, well, now, whatever it is is in

574
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.280
the backside of the house, and Rocks would be through,

575
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.199
and then it started coming from the front side, and

576
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.360
he'd have me going through the house back and forth,

577
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:53.159
and I'd never see anything. But I believe that that

578
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.159
was a young sasquatch that he was being allowed to

579
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:02.480
play games with us and have a good time at it.

580
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.760
And of course at the time we we were we

581
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:10.280
were we thought maybe it was a person, but no

582
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.159
one can move that fast and especially that fast and

583
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.960
without being detected and seen. We had very bright lights

584
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.679
that we could use, and it was like avoiding those

585
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:27.760
lights very easily. Uh. And so but the more uh

586
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.599
dominant feeling, you know, we would we would sense that

587
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:37.199
that was the male sasquatch, the father or grandfather, very

588
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:44.599
very uh you know, more serious ones, if you will.

589
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:52.079
And then at times we would feel that we were

590
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.800
just being watched, and I think that possibly was was

591
00:44:56.199 --> 00:45:00.840
a female taskquatch, just observing from the distance, and never

592
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.119
felt a threat. In fact, many times since I would

593
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.920
be outside and I would just talk out loud and say, Hi,

594
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.880
how are you doing, You're welcome here, thank you for

595
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.760
not making me afraid. I'm not here to disturb you,

596
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.119
I'm not here to harm you. I'm just doing some work,

597
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.880
and I would just continue with my work. But other

598
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.960
times I believe again he was hunting, where I felt

599
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.760
immediately the need to go inside and shut down what

600
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.639
I was doing, and so I would just out of

601
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:43.519
respect and so have very spiritual in those occasions, and

602
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.840
unlike anything that I'd ever experienced at church, that's for sure,

603
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:48.599
for sure.

604
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:56.440
Wow, you've mentioned telepathy a few times. Do you feel

605
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.840
like there's been a time when there's been a back

606
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:04.559
and forth communication at all.

607
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:09.800
So I would send down, you know, you know, messages

608
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:15.360
just with my thoughts, and I would get responses in feelings,

609
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.039
if that makes sense. It was never that I heard

610
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.679
a voice in my head, but it would respond in

611
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.920
a feeling. It would send a feeling into me, okay,

612
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.519
And he let me know that he wasn't there to

613
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:33.920
hurt us, but that you know, he didn't want us

614
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.920
around at times, he didn't want us out there, and

615
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.880
you know, I just assumed, you know, and the feeling

616
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.559
was Again I could say that it easily was something

617
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.320
that I came up with, or it was a feeling

618
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.000
he gave me and communicating that this is my hunting time,

619
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.800
this is the time where we we collect food, and

620
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.559
I didn't want to be any part of that food.

621
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:07.039
And so I certainly obliged and would call it a

622
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:13.119
night and and go inside and do whatever I need

623
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:17.599
to do to do there. And so it was, but never,

624
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.639
never anything that was like a voice that I heard,

625
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.199
and I'm not sure if that's how telepathy works or

626
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.280
if you you know, that was something that was new

627
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.119
to me. And so I've heard some people say they

628
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.159
heard a voice and other people are feeling. And certainly

629
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:38.079
how I received the messages was through a feeling and function.

630
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:46.800
I definitely understand that. Would you say, oh, I'll ask

631
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:51.679
it this way. Have there been individuals in this same

632
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.239
area that have had visual sightings of something?

633
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:02.320
Yes, many of the native and in the fellowship that

634
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.920
we worked with, the individuals would would tell of So

635
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:10.400
they were very cautious, you know, it was something they

636
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:16.519
didn't speak of much and uh, but you know, occasionally

637
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.480
I would get one of them too, because I would ask,

638
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.840
you know, we're having these experiences and we we we

639
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.000
we not only believe, we just kind of know it's

640
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.960
it's a sasquatch. What what are the stories? What what

641
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.360
can you tell us? And they would tell us of

642
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.559
whether they saw it personally or if it was uh,

643
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:40.760
you know, a sibling or a grandparent. Uh. And it's

644
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.159
like a common knowledge of of those in the area.

645
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.559
Now we do have some people that live in that

646
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.440
area that have those cut out images of Sasquatch, those

647
00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:00.280
large metal sil silhouettes and have stopped by and left,

648
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.000
you know, notes, hey, does this mean that there's big

649
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:09.159
foot activity that you're experiencing? And they never responded, But

650
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:16.599
we believe there's there is a you know, at least

651
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.239
a few in our area who are willing to talk

652
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.440
about it, but most of them are Native American folks,

653
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:29.000
and that our neighbors anytime, the new ones especially, we

654
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:33.840
kind of hinted at the cause that you know, where

655
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.920
you live now is the direction where we've had some

656
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.000
experiences at least the rocks being thrown and the noises

657
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:47.000
and such, and that there could be bigfoot, and they

658
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.239
laugh it off. It's it's not not that they mock

659
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:55.960
us over it or shun us. But none of our

660
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:01.559
immediate neighbors have told us of any encounters.

661
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.079
This is it's extremely interesting. What would you say is

662
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:11.079
the most recent that you've experienced any of the activity

663
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:12.719
that we've gone over so far.

664
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.320
So a lot of the activity now has because of

665
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.360
now full time neighbors directly behind us where most of

666
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.039
In fact, I sent a photo to you of a

667
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:32.000
small tree that at some point had to have been

668
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:35.800
attached the tip of it was bent over and attached

669
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:45.719
to the ground. And you know, I've examined how that

670
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.360
happened or had to consider. I don't even know what

671
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:52.320
it is, but I had the sense that and other figure,

672
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.119
you know, where tree limbs and entire trees were laid

673
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.840
upon each other. It wasn't mother nature. But you know,

674
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:06.239
a lot of the activity has now come to the

675
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:10.880
smell of a wet dog and skunk combination. And so

676
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:17.360
when we and and occasionally the the telepathy, if you will,

677
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:23.880
letting us know that they're there and sometimes. In fact,

678
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:28.119
I think one of the first connections that we made

679
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:32.840
was through a Facebook messenger group where I had posted

680
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:40.280
a sound. It was there were coyotes doing their thing,

681
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.079
and then there was another sound and some that heard that.

682
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:48.920
I sent that recording that I made and shared it

683
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.719
with the group, and somebody mentioned that that sounded like

684
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.679
a dog man, and but they said it was definitely

685
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:01.960
not the coyotes. But we will hear that in the distance.

686
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.719
And so I think now that there's full time neighbors

687
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:10.159
back there where there was not before. He may go around,

688
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.960
they may travel around that area, but there's still they're

689
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:21.639
still there. This was probably three months ago when when

690
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:26.880
we had the scent, and so you know, we just

691
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:32.760
we just acknowledge and say hello in our minds. And

692
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:37.840
you know, I told my friend doctor Mika, said, you know,

693
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.960
you don't have to speak out loud. I believe they

694
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.440
can hear your thoughts, so you can communicate with them,

695
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.079
especially if you don't want the neighbor to hear you

696
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.360
talking to somebody that's not there. It's okay to to

697
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.840
say hello in your mind and acknowledge that they're there

698
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.719
and that you still mean peace with them and no harm.

699
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:04.440
And and so we have since removed cameras, but still

700
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.840
very real presence in the area. I mean, this is

701
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:14.280
again six acres and of that there may be two

702
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:19.719
hundred properties, and then may be of that fifty to

703
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.679
seventy five that live there full time. And so there's

704
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:30.039
lots of area that in fact many lots that have

705
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:36.519
no structures and nobody owns them. It's just very very

706
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.119
thick wooded area. So there's still lots of areas that

707
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.519
they can roam and travel. And again there's a few

708
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.400
smaller lakes in the area, but their primary I believe

709
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.639
area of getting water and food is down by the

710
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:56.039
Illinois River in about seven miles of that comes through

711
00:53:56.480 --> 00:54:03.480
this private area, and in fact they take if you're

712
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.760
a member of the POA, you're allowed and able to

713
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.639
float that area for free. In fact, they have canoes

714
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.440
and rafts that will take you to a star point,

715
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.519
a drop off point, and then meet you at the

716
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:18.880
end of it and take you back to your car.

717
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:24.679
But that goes right through and it's very kind of

718
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:29.239
what we call mountainous in Oklahoma. Of course, the states

719
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.960
with real mountains would just call these large hills, but

720
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:37.880
lots of deep crevices throughout. And then we live up

721
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.880
on top of one of those mountains, one of the

722
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.639
higher points in that area, and a lot of the

723
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:50.079
activity comes down from the crevice just behind our home there.

724
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:56.199
But he's still very active, they are, and just a

725
00:54:56.199 --> 00:55:00.639
lot less more visibly. And you know, I don't I

726
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:02.880
don't get that. I don't get the sense that he

727
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:10.840
hates human beings but just doesn't trust and and so

728
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:15.440
he would rather not disturb or be seen, uh and

729
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:21.559
will avoid at all costs for the most part. And

730
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.960
these folks, they have children and and handicap children at

731
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:29.400
that and so and I think Bigfoot smart enough to

732
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:33.480
ask watch is smart enough to know that, and and no,

733
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:37.639
I get it. There are people that have had bad experiences,

734
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:43.320
and that like people. You have people who do bad things,

735
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:47.039
and you have people who are smart and know to behave,

736
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:51.320
and there are people with mental illnesses. I'm sure it's

737
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:57.039
it's the same in in that species. And so those

738
00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:01.360
that do have done harm have heard stories of people

739
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:05.519
being injured or killed, but I've also heard stories of

740
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:13.039
people being protected and saved by Bigfoot and so but

741
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:16.079
I believe for the most part, the species is is

742
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.719
able to, and has been able to for all these years,

743
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:28.199
to live alongside us and conduct their life in a

744
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:33.000
way that is not intrusive to us. It's just sometimes

745
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:38.119
when we get close to their home, they let us know, hey,

746
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:42.440
this is this is where we live, and we leave

747
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.800
you alone, leave us alone. And so that's that's kind

748
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:52.920
of where again I've asked you, please don't show yourself,

749
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.239
not yet. You don't have to. I believe you're there.

750
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.400
I believe fully, with out ever needing to see you.

751
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.719
But you know, it would be interesting one day to

752
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.760
see physically. But I don't need that to believe. I've

753
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:15.280
already had enough experiences where I just know in my knower,

754
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.400
as what my past used to say, you know in

755
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:23.960
your knower that something is real, and after what I've

756
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:29.119
experienced that I have no doubt and just knowing that,

757
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.719
you know. At the same time, we both looked at

758
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.880
each other, what could this be? And we said Bigfoot

759
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.880
at the same time. It was like he spoke through

760
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.639
both of us and introduced himself right then and and

761
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:51.039
so it's unique experience. But I also think there are

762
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.119
a lot of people that have had these experiences that

763
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.360
haven't said it and are afraid to say it. And

764
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:00.400
I totally get it. I understand where they're at, and

765
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.880
I don't shame them for it, but you know, at

766
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:06.280
some point they should contact you. This is a safe

767
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:12.320
place to to acknowledge those experiences, and it's to help

768
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:17.239
educate everyone that these aren't beings that need to be

769
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.559
hunted down and killed or put in a cage. These

770
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:26.880
are people, I believe very much so, that share our

771
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:33.599
DNA and our our closest relatives and our spiritual beings

772
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.239
just as much as they are in the physical realm.

773
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:42.039
And even now I'm diving into the possibility that they

774
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:47.119
are interdimensional and have some supernatural powers. You know. I

775
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.960
haven't got there yet, but I'm hearing about it and researching.

776
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.920
But I certainly believe and and and the fact that

777
00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:01.360
he is very very real and not anger like some

778
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:08.519
would think. And so definitely, if you ever have an encounter, respect, respecting,

779
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:13.480
and don't don't feel like you have to, especially if

780
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:18.840
you're out hunting, don't shoot him, you know, stay stay

781
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:23.960
calm and and remain peaceful and just think to yourself

782
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.039
in your mind and communicate with him in that way

783
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:32.119
that that you don't mean any harm. And and I

784
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.559
truly believe that you will have a good encounter if

785
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:37.599
if one is to take place.

786
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:45.199
It is man it when when I get into conversations

787
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.920
like this, there's so many questions that get brought up,

788
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:56.320
and the whole telepathy thing just really it really throws

789
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.880
me for a loop because it comes up a lot.

790
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:05.800
And to think that possibly there could be if you're

791
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.239
looking at a certain way of some kind of you know,

792
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:18.159
physical individual that has the ability to communicate telepathically on

793
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:22.480
top of everything else, it's it's very very wild stuff.

794
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:30.960
Yea, this is this is absolutely wild.

795
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.719
Yeah, It's just one one thing I had to I

796
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.760
had to recognize as a form of communication, because that's

797
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.559
we would get just feelings and unctions. Uh. And occasionally,

798
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.199
like I said, we've heard our name be called or

799
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:54.039
and and and you know, something saying hello, and the

800
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.320
chatter that we heard a few times, just like it's

801
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:03.920
right outside the house, very very certain and very clear

802
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:10.000
that there was communication taking place between them. But overall

803
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.920
with us so far, it's been mostly this you know,

804
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:21.159
telepathy or you know, where they're sending messages through feelings

805
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:25.360
and very very hard to explain. But you know, as humans,

806
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:30.119
you're able to see body language and other forms of

807
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:34.519
communication other than verbal and you know, we have that

808
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:38.880
sixth sentence if you will. You know, many times in

809
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:42.440
the city I have felt I was in danger and

810
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.599
so I knew to leave the area. And you know,

811
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.480
you can't really explain these things. It's just knowing that

812
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:52.559
you have. And you know, if people would just open

813
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.239
themselves to recognize that that is something we were designed with,

814
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:02.880
you know, and I believe we have this third eye

815
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:07.400
that exists in our brain. I've been told is very

816
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:11.199
very similar to the eyeball. But it was a way

817
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:16.000
that we used to communicate, you know, our ancestors and

818
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:20.599
way back in ancient times. And so I still believe

819
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:25.400
that that is a tool that we don't use, but

820
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:29.840
it is something that it's because we don't tap into it,

821
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:34.000
we don't recognize it. And if people would learn to

822
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.679
rely on that sixth sense more often, I think we

823
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:42.960
can grow spiritually, we can grow as a society. And

824
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:48.320
you know, people would make wiser choices when they're in

825
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:53.079
an unsafe situation. They learned to recognize sooner hey leave

826
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:56.920
this area rather than become a victim of a crime

827
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:01.239
something of that nature. And so I think that they

828
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:06.719
having not been exposed, if you will, to the technology

829
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:10.320
that we've had all these years, you know, beginning with

830
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.960
radio and television, where we begin to move away from nature,

831
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.599
we use it less and less and less as humanity,

832
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:23.960
but it's still something that's available to us, I believe

833
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:29.599
one percent. And we just have to get quiet and

834
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:33.639
get still, you know, even in scripture, be still and

835
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:37.840
know that I am the Lord. And it's in that

836
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:42.599
silence where you can hear everything around you and realize

837
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:48.920
how everything is connected, everything is all one, and we

838
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:50.719
are in the creator.

839
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:56.599
The thing that one of the weirdest things to me

840
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.559
so far that I've been doing this for a few years,

841
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:05.159
is that the the terminology, well, the way that people

842
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.199
speak about man, I don't even I don't know if

843
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:14.159
I'm even going to keep this in the way that

844
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:18.840
the Holy Spirit and how it moves in Christians, and

845
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:22.840
then also telepathy and Bigfoot, the way that those are

846
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:27.119
talked about are so so similar, and it scares me

847
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:27.599
to death.

848
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:29.719
I'm not sure to think about.

849
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:35.119
It right right, It's very very scary. I don't know

850
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:38.280
why it's scary, but to me, it's like the parallels

851
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:44.079
are very very close, you know, yes, I know, yeah.

852
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:47.719
It's again, it's almost as those they have maybe a

853
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.679
closer connection to the Creator that you know, they they

854
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:56.000
know what what it really means for the spirit to move.

855
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.519
You know, you take away all of the emotional stuff,

856
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:04.480
you know, and Pentecostals or the non denominational experience a

857
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:07.719
lot of times you have people during prayer or they'll

858
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.280
fall down and they have catchers and things of that nature,

859
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:13.719
and you know, you can attribute a lot of that

860
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:19.079
stuff to emotions and people becoming familiar with it thinking

861
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:22.920
that that's what must happen, and that that is you know,

862
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.960
if that happens, then God really has moved on you.

863
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:31.599
But this organic experience was more spiritual in so many

864
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:41.320
ways that I felt closer to the Creator than in

865
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:45.440
those moments. You know, those were very powerful moments. I'm not,

866
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.760
you know, doing away with them, but they were nothing

867
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:55.400
like this. It was life changing where you'll be. You know,

868
01:05:55.480 --> 01:06:01.599
I recognize that even the trees worship him, even the

869
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:06.840
the the the insects. I mean, everything at those moments

870
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:11.320
in that time was silent and just buzzing with energy.

871
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:17.320
And you know, I was just grateful that I was

872
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.079
able to be a part of those And that happened

873
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:24.079
maybe four times in those two and a half years.

874
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.239
And I've just not been outside as much. I've become

875
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:33.000
more of a caretaker and and and working maintenance inside

876
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:40.400
the property and so and then having the neighbors and

877
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:47.159
new neighbors. It's just you know, something that I've not

878
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:52.960
had the experience. Maybe it's been a year, but you know,

879
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:55.960
I'm more than willing if if it happens again, to

880
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:00.320
be a part and just you know, it was they

881
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:05.320
were allowing me to to to experience that, and I

882
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:10.679
was so grateful, you know, just to to have the feeling,

883
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:14.119
you know what it must have been like. Uh, you know,

884
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.800
if it was something part to do. And I really think,

885
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:20.039
you know, Jeremiah, that a lot of it was a

886
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:26.400
combination of the Native American experience where uh even even

887
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:33.360
before them, where everything just came out to acknowledge the

888
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:39.519
Creator and too to be at one. And it was

889
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:43.039
like a recognition of everyone is one, everything is one,

890
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:47.440
it's it's it's all connected in the Creator. And I

891
01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.960
don't even like to call him God anymore, even though

892
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:55.119
he is God. Uh, it's his source. He's the universe.

893
01:07:55.159 --> 01:08:01.559
He's the creator of all and put so many divisions

894
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:06.679
up and dividers where we separate ourselves from one another,

895
01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:11.960
and he is the unifier. You know. We are all

896
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:17.159
his children. Everything that has life is his creation. And

897
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:23.359
I just think, you know, we're somewhat different, if you will, special,

898
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.720
if you will, in the way that we were created

899
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:32.520
to be creators, you know, and and where we are

900
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:37.880
able to we are in control of our destiny. It's

901
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:40.640
not just things happening to us. We're we're allowed. We

902
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.760
we have the ability to create for ourselves a life

903
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:48.399
and to create things by speaking them and and so

904
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:52.439
in that way, I think we're unique, but that does

905
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:56.680
a discount that he uh. You know, he loves all

906
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:03.199
of his creation, and even those that people aren't acknowledging

907
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:09.439
or aware of, even those spaceships that fly around and

908
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:14.560
zoom unbelievable speeds and stop on a dime. You know,

909
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:19.960
I didn't see what was piloting them, but whatever was

910
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.000
was able to withstand the g forces and the sudden

911
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:28.359
stops without becoming mush. And so even they are part

912
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:33.039
of his creation. And I believe, you know, there is evil.

913
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.079
I understand that, and there you know that there's dimensions.

914
01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:41.439
At least I've come to recognize for myself there are dimensions,

915
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:44.520
and there are beings in those dimensions that are very dark.

916
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:50.079
And some of these entities very well could be that.

917
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:53.479
But I don't believe Sasquatch or Bigfoot is one of them.

918
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.840
I don't believe he is an evil side of things.

919
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.840
I believe he can be mad, you can upset him.

920
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:05.079
I believe that they were around when the Native Americans

921
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:09.640
were forced all over the place and slaughtered. As things

922
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:15.760
begin to move forward in this land and with indigenous

923
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:20.039
people all over the world, as quote progress was being made,

924
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:22.880
I believe that their friends were taken from them, and

925
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:28.000
they watched and observed what took place, and may have

926
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:32.039
some resentment and some bitterness, you know, it's it's it's

927
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.439
one of those things. This is my own thinking as

928
01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:39.680
I've pondered and looked inside it. You know, what really

929
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:45.640
is going on here, And just from the stories of

930
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:49.000
the Native Americans and their ancestors and going way way

931
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:52.479
way back, they had to see it, they had to

932
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:56.520
to to and who knows, there may be stories that

933
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.880
were not being told where they were part of round

934
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:04.319
and being moved. You know, one thing I've come to

935
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:07.920
know is the history we've been taught, much of it

936
01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:13.279
is either left out or completely changed, or just to

937
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:18.880
flat out lie. And so I've learned, like Thomas Jefferson said,

938
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:23.079
question everything, even the existence of God. For if there

939
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:26.560
is a God, surely he would rather you honestly questioned

940
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:30.800
than just to blindly follow and believe. And so you know,

941
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:35.399
it's with that questioning that if you question the right source,

942
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:40.279
you'll get the truth. And so I'm at peace with that,

943
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:44.319
and I'd never have lost my faith in God just

944
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:49.119
because now I've now believe in these other things. In fact,

945
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.680
it feels more intact, It feels more complete and makes

946
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:57.520
more sense because it was always there kind of if

947
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:01.800
you will, and now to acknowledge, and I have to

948
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.880
admit it was through experiences. You know. I don't know

949
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:08.000
if if it had never been for that movie Harry

950
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.880
and the Henderson's, if I ever would have gone down

951
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:13.880
a certain trail, or if it wasn't for the UFO

952
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:17.920
encounter with my mother, if I hadn't it wasn't you know,

953
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:20.800
maybe I never would have been open to these things.

954
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:24.039
But it was like one thing after another led to

955
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:32.000
where I'm at today. And you know, it's certainly have

956
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.880
it had to go hunt when foot is your neighbor.

957
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:39.279
And I acknowledged, you know, to tell many people. I said, well,

958
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.640
our neighbor is a bigfoot family and literally just across

959
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:47.840
a little fifteen foot wide gravel road just on the

960
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:52.199
other side is all wooded area, and we're surrounded up

961
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:58.840
there by very very thick and tall trees, and just

962
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:03.760
our neighbor is a bigfoot and and so uh you know,

963
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:08.760
many many, uh many many things that and we're comfortable

964
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:14.520
with with what we're going with our experience. We're fine

965
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:18.359
with whether people believe or not, and we kind of

966
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:22.640
like that it's our own little experience and and in

967
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:27.600
some cases unique to us. But it still is nice

968
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:32.960
to hear others share their stories and and again some

969
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:36.399
of them haven't been so pleasant. I realized that. But

970
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.239
I don't at all that that means Bigfoot is an

971
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:45.680
evil entity. And you know there there's you know, the

972
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:50.800
skin walker uh thing I believe could be even a

973
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:57.000
dog man quite frankly could be. But I don't at

974
01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:04.039
all believe Bigfoot sasquat, which is one of those evil entities.

975
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:13.239
Just to speak on the fascinating conversation Jason, it's been

976
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:17.399
really eye opening for me. I'm sure a lot of

977
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:21.520
listeners have probably will listen to this one more than once,

978
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.279
I would guess, but Jason, thank you for coming on

979
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:25.680
the show.

980
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:30.319
I really appreciate it. Jeremiah, It's been a privilege and

981
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.880
I've looked forward to it for a long time and

982
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:36.520
finally glad to have the chance to chat with you.

983
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:41.159
Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity

984
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:44.439
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I

985
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.319
would love to get out in those woods and experience

986
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:51.840
it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can

987
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.479
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

988
01:14:55.520 --> 01:15:00.399
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

989
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:04.520
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

990
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:08.399
better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be

991
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.560
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

992
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:16.840
I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard

993
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:23.000
anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you

994
01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:25.239
just got to be there. We'll leave it that more

995
01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:28.000
about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check

996
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:33.640
this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

997
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:38.000
series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not

998
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:42.239
only go to the festival, but you can also sign

999
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:49.199
up for a track deep in the wild forest outside

1000
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:53.920
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to

1001
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.600
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

1002
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:01.680
for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for

1003
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.880
the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching

1004
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.439
for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1005
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:10.720
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1006
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.840
To get a ticket head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1007
01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:20.439
dot com and listeners can use the code b SP

1008
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:25.239
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

1009
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:28.199
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1010
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:33.319
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1011
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:39.800
that you guys can can get a little help with

1012
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:43.159
the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

1013
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:47.399
you at the booth in Oakridish this year we can

1014
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.720
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

1015
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:53.439
many people last year and the year before. It is

1016
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:56.399
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

1017
01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:01.119
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

1018
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.760
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1019
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:07.319
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1020
01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:10.319
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1021
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.560
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

1022
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:17.199
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're

1023
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.640
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1024
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.800
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1025
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.399
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1026
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:30.479
to talk about, and if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1027
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.119
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1028
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:37.239
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1029
01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:41.119
on a remote oil field or a trucker with government

1030
01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.840
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1031
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:48.479
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1032
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:52.039
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1033
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:55.800
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1034
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.079
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1035
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:01.560
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1036
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:06.119
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

1037
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:09.920
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

1038
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:15.800
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

1039
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:19.039
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

1040
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:23.279
what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

1041
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:29.239
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1042
01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:31.800
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1043
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:35.039
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

1044
01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:37.640
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1045
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:40.560
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

1046
01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:43.840
tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

1047
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:46.439
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1051
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1053
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.359
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1054
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:07.319
know has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to

1055
01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:10.359
hear from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at

1056
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:13.800
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1057
01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:16.359
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1058
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1059
01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:23.560
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1061
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:30.720
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1062
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.600
the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again

1063
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:36.319
for following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time,

1064
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:39.159
keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

1065
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.359
asking what else might be out there? And see you

1066
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:41.920
in the woods.