March 23, 2025

The Most Treacherous Bigfoot Road | Oregon

In this episode, host Jeremiah Byron sits down with Jeff Rone, a prominent figure in the Bigfoot research community, known for his appearances in the 'A Flash of Beauty' documentary and numerous outdoor expeditions. Jeff shares his experiences from...

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Season 1

In this episode, host Jeremiah Byron sits down with Jeff Rone, a prominent figure in the Bigfoot research community, known for his appearances in the 'A Flash of Beauty' documentary and numerous outdoor expeditions. Jeff shares his experiences from the Sasquatch Summerfest in Oak Ridge and his deep involvement with the Oregon Bigfoot Highway book. He recounts chilling encounters and evidence gathered in areas such as Estacada, Detroit Lake, and Bagby Hot Springs in Oregon, as well as the mystical Camp Broken Arrow and Antler Creek in Idaho. Jeff also delves into the supernatural phenomena he's experienced, including a recent mysterious healing encounter. Don't miss Jeff's vivid descriptions of hearing Bigfoot's footsteps, discovering giant footprints, and witnessing extraordinary light phenomena. This episode is a must-listen for anyone intrigued by Bigfoot and the paranormal activities surrounding their habitats.

Resources:

https://www.oregonbigfoot.com

Jeff Rone full interview with Flash of Beauty - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgVuXvVn2kc

Oregon Bigfoot Highway book (Amazon Affiliate link that helps support Bigfoot Society) - https://amzn.to/3QNR7JE

Jeff Rone Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@SaabAholic

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. We've

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got the privilege of talking to mister Jeff Rown today.

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He's an individual that I have had the pleasure of

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meeting actually last year out there in sasquat Summerfest at Oakridge.

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You may remember him from the Flash of Beauty documentary,

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but he's been involved with many other things over the

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years that we will probably end up talking about with Jeff.

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How are you doing today, sir.

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Doing great? Jeremiah, Thanks for having me.

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On, absolutely so I've talked about the Oregon Bigfoot Highway

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book before and how much I really like to read it,

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and listeners probably remember that. But what I just recently

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found out is that you're actually one of the individuals

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that were involved with the events of that book, which

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is the area of road from Estacada going down to

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Detroit Lake, Oregon, and it's a very, very wild bigfoot area.

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There's a lot of really interesting encounters and interactions in

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that book. So pretty much what I've decided to do

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is I'm going to try to interview the individuals that

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are called out in that book that are still currently

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with us. So, Jeff, you are. You are the first

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one on the docket, So I'm thankful that you were

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able to come on the show. But let's start out

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with this, Jeff, what was it that got you into

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the wild world of Bigfoot? To begin with?

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Well, I think it was the first time I saw

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the Patterson Gimlin clip at a movie theater when I

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was young, and you know, they were watching a different

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movie and that they showed a little clip and I

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instantly was like, yep, they're real, And I think from

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then that was the get go for me.

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That's awesome. When was the first time that you actually

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crossed I feel like there's there's a there's a barrier

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that you cross, or there's a you kind of cross

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a bridge where you go from Yeah, bigfoot school too.

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All right, now I'm going to go out in the

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woods and try to look for this thing. What was

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the time that you you crossed that bridge?

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Yeah, I think it was. I think in like two

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thousand and nine, everything really took off for me. I know,

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when I was in high school, my buddy Scott and

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I would say, hey, let's go to Mount Saint Helens

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and bag us a big foot and joke around about

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that a lot. And uh and when I was younger,

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we had a one acre piece of property not too

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far from Mount Saint Helens. But uh so, you know,

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I was kind of familiar with like the Bigfoot country.

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It was kind of by aerial Washington where Dbe Cooper

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supposedly landed from the plane that he hijacked or you know,

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got the money and all that. Anyway, Uh, yeah, two

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thousand and nine, I think things really amped up for me.

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I joined a website called Oregon bigfoot dot Com for

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you know, like five bucks a month, you can become

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a member and then there's like a you know, chat

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rooms you can get into and people leave messages and

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you can talk chat back and forth. And so I

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met a group of people from that website and it

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we kind of grew into a family and had a

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lot of outings together after that, And so that's kind

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of what propelled me into this a little further and

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deep I am grateful for her in that website. She

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brought together a lot of good people in my life

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and was a big help to me to move away

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from Leah. Let's go back a big foot to Okay,

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these are people in the forest, you know what I mean?

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Oh, okay, So that's interesting, Jeff. So when you say

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bag us a bigfoot in high school, you were actually

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trying to get a specimen with your buddy.

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Yeah, we never did. We just talked about it. We

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were too chicken to do it. But you know, I

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just always thought, you know, we could go out there

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and catch one, you know what I mean. I didn't

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have the knowledge or the respect for these forest people

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back in the day. And uh, you know, once I

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started doing more research and reading a lot of people's

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you know, first hand accounts and you know, and then

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the videos came out on YouTube and stuff like that.

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That's when I kind of got serious about, uh, you know,

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the Susquatched people and what it's all about. And I

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met other people who were very wise and had spent

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kind of a lifetime living amongst them on their properties,

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and you know, I listened to people who knew more

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than me, and and uh, I just gained the respect

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for you know, Bigfoot that they're actually people. And it

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didn't take a long time to go from you know,

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their ape running around the woods to they're they're actually

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uh forest people that have families, culture, you know, they

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have language and and all that. I mean, there there

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are people. So I'm kind of rambling.

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I answered the question that is, you absolutely did. Actually

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that's fascinating. So now when you and your buddy when

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you were doing stuff around Mount St. Helens, did you

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have anything out of the ordinary happen when you were

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in there trying to get something done?

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Okay, Well, like I said, we never actually went went

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out there. Oh so it was it was all talk.

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You know, we never did go out there. And uh, oh,

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I know I probably drove out in areas, you know,

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thinking I wanted to find one and I would well

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like for instance, and when I got my first car,

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I drove out to Estacada, Oregon, and then I thought,

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I was like, well, man, I'm way out in the country.

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And then the next time I drove out there, I'm

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driving down the clack and was the river corridor, and

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I'm like, wow, I'm really out in the country. And

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then every time I went out, I went further and

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further and further. And I remember one time, it was

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around two thousand and nine, I drove, I drove past

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bag the hot springs, the parking lot area, and I

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hit a gravel road and I turned and got all

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the way down to where another gravel road spurred off

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of that one, and I got out and I had to,

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you know, take a pee break, and I felt like

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I was being watched. And I didn't walk very far

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away from my vehicle, and I just got the weird

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feeling that I was being watched, and I was like,

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it's coming right from that spot, right there in the woods,

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and I kind of got scared, hopped on my rig

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and took off. Well, I don't know if it was

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a year or two later down that other gravel road

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is where I ended up finding this spot that I

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call Camp Broken Arrow, and it's like another mile and

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a half from that spot I just talked about. But

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h and then oh so so, once I got a

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little more daring and had another person with me, I'm

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chicken when I'm by myself, but if I have someone

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else with me, I feel perfectly fine. Well, I went

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back to that spot where I'd parked my car, and

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I walked into the woods where I thought I was

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being watched, and there was the perfect blind made from

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little trees that were probably I don't know, ten twelve

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feet tall with broken tops. They're all lined up, and

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in my mind it looked like that was a spot

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where someone was tall could have hide in there and

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watch people come down that road. And that's exactly where

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I felt like I was being watched.

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That's why.

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And yeah, I even took Tom Powell, a friend of mine.

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He's written a couple of books and he's kind of

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well known in the bigfoot world out here in the

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Pacific Northwest. I took him to that spot and I

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showed him and he said that was the best blind

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that he has ever seen in the woods, and you know,

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we both kind of agree that, yeah, that possibly is

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a blind that you know, the forest people could use

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to hide and watch.

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So that's fascinating. That was by Bagbee Hot Springs.

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Yeah, it's past bag Hot Springs. Yeah, instead of yeah

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yeah wow.

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So yeah, I am. Actually I'll be talking to Tom

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in two weeks. I have something set up because you know,

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just also talk about his new book. But also he

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is also one of the members of the Clackamis Squatchians

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that we're part of the Oregon Big Foot Highway. But yeah,

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what is Do you mind spending a few minutes talking about?

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What is the Oregon Bigfoot Highway?

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Yeah, well it's Joe bel Art his idea and uh

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is co author Cliff Wilson. And anyway, they they came

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up with a with a well kind of made it

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into a club where to become a big part of

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the Oregon Bigfit Highway group, you had to spend x

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amount of nights per year out in the woods out there,

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and I think there were a couple of other qualifications

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that you had to you had to meet. And so

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I was chatting with Joe one time and he was

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asking me, well, I guess he was writing the book

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at the time, and so anyway, we chatted and apparently

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I made the grade, and so he put me in

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the book.

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You have a few instances that are talked about in

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that book that are that are pretty interesting. I do also,

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I'll probably end up saying this in every episode where

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I talked to someone from it. So the actual route

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is so it's primarily like forty six to two twenty four,

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which are I believe they're both forest roads. You can

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correct me if I'm off on that. But the this

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is not just like a like you don't just simply

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walk into it, Like there are some very strongly worded

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if you're gonna go near this area, you need to

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have your stuff together. You may need to make sure

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your tires are full, you have enough gas, and you

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have all the tools.

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Like.

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This isn't just you know, someone's listening to this and

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be like, oh, this sounds fun. You need to have

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your stuff together. It's uh, it's pretty pretty far out

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there from from what I've never been out there myself,

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but it sounds like it's it's quite a trip to

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get out in this this areas that you're you're referring.

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To, Yeah, I mean there you can go from Messicada

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straight down to Detroit, Oregon, and uh, you know it's

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a tricky little highway. Uh you know, you you always

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fill up, you top your tank off in this Deicada

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before you head down. And yeah, you better have ten

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ply tires. You better, you know, have all the survival

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things that you need if you get stuck, you know,

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for a couple of nights. Always let somebody know you're

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going before beforehand. And I think the only uh there's

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an old Ranger station several miles down that road that

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is sometimes open. It's a little store now I think

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privately operated store, but it's seasonal and they have a

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Wi Fi signal in there and a landline phone if

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you need help. Tom and I use that one time.

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That's another story. Uh maybe we'll get into that later.

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But uh yeah, so you've got to be prepared, and

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you got to be you just don't go down in

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there and you never in the weather is something you

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gotta worry about. I was driving around there, it might

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have been wintertime, and I was trying to get the

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bag of the hot springs, and something told me that

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because when you go to Bagby, you got to take

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two right hand turns and go down a different road

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to get there, but you follow the Clackamus and then

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you turn right where the calla wash River is. Well.

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I decided to go further down the clack in this

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river corridor toward Detroit, just just because there was a

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woman and a young child in a car trying to

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make it to Detroit in the wintertime. When the highways

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close a couple miles down from where they were, it's

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blocked off, and they were stuck in the snow, and

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they were ill prepared. And something told me to go

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down there and check it out, and I ended up

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helping her get unstuck and told her how to get

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back to the main roads and go all the way

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around and anyway, it's really foolish for her to do that.

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But yeah, no, it can be very treacherous. I mean

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when rain, you always carry a saw of some kind

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because you never know if you go down to gravel road,

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there might be a tree down owing to trying to

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get back out, so you got to be prepared.

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You're talking about like a handsaw.

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All chainsawn.

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Yeah, I mean, especially especially right right now where I

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mean some of the some of the ranger stations are closed.

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I mean, you go out on roads like this, you

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gotta be prepared because you might be in a situation

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where man, it's just you. But I think that's a

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good idea to have that stuff. Anyways, were you talking

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about ripple Brook?

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Yes?

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Gotchah, Okay, okay. Interesting there's a part in the book

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where they talk about the ripple Brook station and how

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allegedly there is a log book where they've been writing

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down all of the Bigfoot encounters and interactions in that area,

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but it's never been proven. It's it's it's just like

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a little part of the book and in pretty much

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the author, which is either Joe or Cliff, is like, yeah,

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you know, we're not gonna go try to find them,

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but hey, if one of you guys wants to, there's

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a little quest for you. So I was like, oh, man,

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that sounds kind of fun. But yeah, you never know, right,

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I guess there could be, but you know, probably not.

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Can you talk a little bit about the instance where

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you felt like or you were getting summoned to bag

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b Hot Springs. I think that's something we haven't talked

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about big for society. Who will be right back after

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these messages.

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Yeah, oh yeah, okay, yeah. It was October twelfth, two

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thousand and nine. I believe it was Columbus Day. It

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was a Monday, and working for the Post Office, I

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had that day off of work, and for some reason,

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I got up really early and I probably got online,

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was looking up bigfoot stuff and having some coffee, and

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I was by myself in my apartment and I got

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this voice inside my head that said, go to Bagbe

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Hot Springs. I kind of looked around and I went

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out to the living room to see if a TV

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was on or the radio came on or something. And

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I was like really shocked that I heard this voice.

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And it was like it wasn't a voice from the outside,

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it was a voice on the inside of my head.

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And I had actually heard this voice before telling me

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to do something, and I did not do it, and

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a lot of bad things happened because I didn't obey it.

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So after about a couple hours, I said, you know what,

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I've driven to Bagbe Hot Springs a lot, but i've

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never gotten out and that did the mile and I

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have hype up to it. But I'm going to obey

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this boys, So I'm going to do it today. And

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I thought for sure, as I was hiking up that trail,

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I'm gonna see Bigfoot. There's gonna be a family standing

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there there. We're gonna hug each other and fine and

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and all that kind of funny stuff. And it took

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me forever to hike up there because I was taking

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my time, and I was going off the beaten path

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a little bit, and I was looking every I was

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just looking everywhere for clues, you know, I was looking

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for prints, I was looking for bodies. I was you know, uh.

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And anyway, I finally get up to where the where

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all the hot springs is, uh and the and the tubs,

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and I'd never been up there before. So I get

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all the way to get all the way there, and

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I I just kind of like, well, okay, nothing happened.

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I give up whatever. I'm just gonna enjoy the uh

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the hot springs and look around and check things out. Well.

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I checked out the big, big hot tub, the community

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hot tub, checking it out. And I turned around and

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looked and there's a little bit of ground, a little

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slope that went up of hard ground. It hadn't really

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rained much yet, and there's a lot of pine needles

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on the ground, and it was hard packed dirt, and

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it looked over there and I could see all these footprints.

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So I walked over and I found my first set

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of tracks, and I got down on my knees. I

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took some pictures, crappy pictures, and I even sniffed the

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ground and I was saying, thank you, thank you, And

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that's how I found my first tracks.

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That's incredible. Do you remember, like roughly how long they

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were or anything like that.

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Yeah, I didn't. I didn't bring anything to measure it,

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but I have a I can send you a picture later.

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But uh, ok, yeah, I mean they were I mean

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if they were probably at least fifteen inches long at least.

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I mean, I can't remember for sure, but i'll shoot

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you off the picture later. But yeah, they were good

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eyes and you can see like where they must have

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been kind of running down that little slope, and they

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were really I think I had to take two huge steps,

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uh to match their you know, one step and you

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can see like you can see a left footprint and

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then you can see like where the right toe kind

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of dragged on the ground and the pine needles were,

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uh moved like it. I called a toe drag, and

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then it ran down to some bushes and it was

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like it seemed like whatever was walking on that ground

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had like ran back and forth behind those bushes because

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that all the pine needles were just pushed all over

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the place like it was like somebody got in a

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fight or something, you know what I mean. And uh,

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but the the ground was kind of it wasn't real wet,

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but it was damp. And you know, if you had

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bare feet and you were walking on these pine needles,

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as you lift your foot, those pine needles are gonna

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come off, come up off your foot and you can

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see the uh footprint that left behind because of pineal

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removed from the ground. And so that that's what I saw.

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And part of me thinks that maybe when I was

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looking at the big main h tub, maybe it was

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watching me.

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I don't know absolutely. I mean, I've I myself have

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gotten a few reports from that area over the years,

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used to do a call in show. Someone called in

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one time regarding that. I think I've even seen some

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on Oregon Big Fat Highway that website as well. What

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was the what were the sounds of the forest and

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the smells like at that.

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Point oh boy, I don't know, just your typical.

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Okay, October day, gotcha? Gotcha? So nothing nothing super crazy, No,

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like deafeningely quiet, you know that kind of deal.

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Yep, Yeah, not that I remember. I mean I don't remember.

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I don't remember what I was hearing as I was

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walking up the trail. I mean, I think I was

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so intent on finding something walking up that trail that

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my memory just hasn't served me about any of that.

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I didn't know. I guess I just didn't notice anything

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weird like that. But that's happened to me before.

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Yes, but yeah, gotcha. Did you ever get to go

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out and do any research with Henry Franzoni?

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No? I never went in the woods with him. Yeah

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he did. Yeah. He did speak at my paranormal bigfoot

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conference that I held about fifteen or thirteen, fourteen years ago.

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I called it Footstock Northwest, and Joe Bilert urged me

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to call him and have him come out and speak

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one day. So he came out and talked, and he

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probably could have talked the whole weekend. And he came

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to my house one time when I had a group

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of people over and sat around with fire and listen

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to some of the stories and stuff that. Yeah, never

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did go out and the with Henry.

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He was he was a great, great dude. I never

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got to meet him personally, but man, I enjoyed talking

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to him. Let's talk about footstock for a little bit.

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So that was a Was it a one day conference

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that you had put together?

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It was a two day I think it was a

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short Oh no, maybe it was a one day. You

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think I'd remember. I think we had I think we

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had to get together on the Friday afternoon and evening

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and in the next day we just had a little conference.

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So yeah, maybe forty people showed up. I was on

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Facebook back then and I didn't really advertise it because

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there was a lot of local people that were going

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to be involved. And then a couple of friends drove

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all the way from Idaho to be there, people that

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I'd met on the Oregon Bigfoot dot com And uh,

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yeah it was it was a fun time. I mean

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we were able to talk about, you know, a little

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bit more of the weirder stuff, and uh, Tom Powell,

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Tom Contrell, Joe bial Art, and Henry showed up. Yeah,

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there was there was a few people there and I

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don't think I had that many experiences to share at

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the time, but everyone that went there thought it was

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a pretty cool deal. I enjoyed it. I want to

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do it again sometime.

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Where did that Where did that take place at?

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That took place at Fiala Farms uh in West Lynne, Oregon,

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YEP on John Johnson Road. I had, okay, there's a

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funny story behind that too. So uh years ago, I

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read this uh eye witness account of these two pheasant

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hunters out in the Canby, Oregon area on the I

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think they were on private property that I think the

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Molala River was on the property. And I read this

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account of these two guys pheasant hunting and they were

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heading back to the jeep after hunting that morning, and

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they saw something coming at him at an angle quite

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quite a ways away, and they thought, oh, look at that,

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there's a horse walking toward us. And they kept walking

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and that thing was gaining on him pretty fast. And

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then they realized that's not a horse. There's no rear

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end to that thing. And then they and then they

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uh actually stood like within like several feet of it,

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face to face. It was a younger bigfoot and they

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they were standing there, you know, in shock and the

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so one one guy took off running and and the

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other guy just stood there for a while. And uh yeah,

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his name was Rich Rich Fiola. He stood there and

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and and the bigfoot took one step toward him and

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and Rich took off running after his buddy. And he

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didn't even know his buddy had run off. And so

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it was a very very well written encounter. And I

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rem remember that was my favorite one. Well, I was

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on my mail route out in the West Lynne area,

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out in the country and I just happened to run

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into Rich Fiela finally, and the topic of bigfoot came up.

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And he was the one who actually wrote that encounter

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and sent it into the df R O. So that's

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kind of how we hit it off. And then we

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he'd always wanted to do a little conference type thing

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and so we did it right there at the fiel

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of Farms.

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That's really interesting, so that that is that interaction literally

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came up on when you were doing one of your

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male roots. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah, that's so cool. How

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often would that happen where like you'd be doing mail

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and you'd be like, oh, hey, do you you in

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a bigfoot or was that kind of a one, one

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time deal.

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It happened a couple of times. I think I think

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I had been talking I had been talking to well,

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I had a I knew a guy who his in

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laws lived just down the road. And I remember when

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we were this guy named Jean. He and I were

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managers for Domino's Pizza, and he was telling me about

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his girlfriend at the time and now his wife. His

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girlfriend's parents' house was right on the to Wallaton River

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in West Lynne and and they would hear these crazy

459
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.640
screams at night sometimes in it and uh and it

460
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.359
and then it ends up I ended up getting the

461
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:32.000
mail route delivering to that family for years and uh.

462
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.599
And then like one thing led to another, I would

463
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.039
I talked to another neighbor and asked about, had you

464
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.559
ever heard any weird screams? And and then they said, yeah,

465
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.119
we we did. The kids used to camp down by

466
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:44.720
the river, and they'd all always end up in the

467
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.720
house because they were all scared. And this one guy said, yeah,

468
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.920
you should go talk to rich Fiala. And so I

469
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.240
ended up like the next day I ran into rich

470
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.680
Fiala and we had that conversation, and you know, I

471
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.920
told him about the well, he told me about his

472
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.440
siding and the hell and I knew his sighting because

473
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.160
it was my favorite one I ever read on the

474
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:04.200
BFRO site.

475
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.039
That's some crazy synchronicity going on there, Jeff.

476
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.359
And holy man, that's just that's just a day in

477
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:14.640
a life.

478
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:20.519
Jeff Browner, That's awesome and it's it's very cool you

479
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.799
bring up the west Land area. I had an episode

480
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.559
way back in the day where an individual came on

481
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:31.519
and shared about his experiences in the west Land area

482
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.960
and just so much feedback from listeners like, nah, that

483
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.079
would never happen. You'd never have bigfoot in just across

484
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.000
the river from Portland, blah blah blah. And I mean

485
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.039
that feedback is okay, but it's like, man, this stuff

486
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.079
can happen close to bigger cities.

487
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.839
I mean, oh for sure. And I think that might

488
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:52.480
have been the very first episode of years that I

489
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.799
ever came across. I heard the guy talk about that,

490
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.160
and I think that's why, Yeah, I remember this need

491
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.599
to that, and I think I made several comments in

492
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.440
the comment section myself. But uh, you know, right right

493
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:13.279
in West Lynne, there's the there. Well, the willamt Rivers

494
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:17.119
right there, and there's the Oregon City Falls, there's a

495
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.519
there's a you know, they have locks there, you know,

496
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.240
for boats to go through the locks channel. Well, and

497
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:27.759
there's the Willlamott Falls right there. Anyway, legend has it

498
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:32.960
that the white man used to have to share those

499
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:42.200
the waterfalls to catch fish. And maybe it was a

500
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.119
Native Americans that shared it. But uh, but yeah, I

501
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.400
mean there's there's stuff, a lot of history a big

502
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:50.359
Foot in that area.

503
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.839
That's why I want to clarify some real quicks because

504
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.240
we had a weird interference for a second. So you're

505
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.640
saying that the white men would share that area with

506
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.119
uh the big Foot or.

507
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.319
Yeah, well yeah you could fish, you could go fishing

508
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.599
right there at the Wlanet Falls and so yeah, the

509
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.119
legend has it that they had to share the falls

510
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.079
with the Bigfoot people.

511
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.319
That's fascinating. Holy Macro, I got I gotta look more

512
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:22.519
into this area. For sure. There's something you alluded to earlier.

513
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:28.519
And just so that it doesn't not it's just so

514
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:33.359
it doesn't happen, not happen. Would you this story about

515
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.960
Tom and the phone call in Ripplebrook, is that something

516
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.920
you can actually share that story or.

517
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:45.359
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well let me just one real quickly. Okay.

518
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.559
I know a guy named Joe, a friend of mine

519
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.240
named Joe. He lived in West Lynne up on Peet's Mountain.

520
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.000
There's a road called Schaeffer Road and it's on the

521
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.359
other side of the Twalton River and goes up five six,

522
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.039
seven hundred feet. He and his buddy when they were

523
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.920
in high school, we're building a tree fort and you

524
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.160
got this whole side of the mountain which faces toward

525
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.599
the actual town of Westland. Basically, well, he's in a

526
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.839
tree and he hears something walking through the woods and

527
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.400
he looks down and there's some reggae looking Harry dude

528
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:20.960
walking underneath the tree. And so you know, this is

529
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:25.960
probably in the late nineteen eighties, early nineties maybe, But

530
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.960
and his friend saw it too, So yeah, there's more

531
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.119
than one big foot sighting in that Westling area over

532
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:32.559
the years.

533
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.960
BIG's a societyho will be right back after these messages,

534
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.319
did we okay, did he say why he described it

535
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.160
as a reggae looking guy?

536
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.680
Yeah, because it was all Harry and it's yes, hair

537
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.319
was sort of you know, you know, Braiden and all

538
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.279
that we have.

539
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.319
We had the discussion about Spirit Lake. Did this happen

540
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:13.240
out in Oakridge?

541
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.400
I don't know if I talk to you about any

542
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.880
of that, but I have heard other people say that

543
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.519
they saw that same kind of hairstyle on their big

544
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:24.240
foot sightings.

545
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.839
Yeah. Absolutely, So that's really that's crazy you brought that up. So, yeah,

546
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.759
there's I had a call in once where an individual

547
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.599
got chased out of the Spirit Lake, Oregon area by

548
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.960
a few bigfoot that looked like they had dreadlocks, pretty

549
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.720
similar to how you were just describing. So that's awesome.

550
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah, dreadlocks. Yeah. I had a friend named

551
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.640
Dale who told me that he was driving out in

552
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.160
Ido somewhere and the roads will curvy and and he

553
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.119
saw something walk across the road that had dreadlocks and

554
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.839
it was all dark and hairy, and by the time

555
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:58.440
he went around the corners to catch up to it,

556
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:02.839
it was gone, but he dreadlocks thicknness.

557
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.079
There could be there could be something there. Man, that's

558
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:06.920
that's interesting.

559
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:08.400
Yeah.

560
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:14.279
Yeah, m hm, that's awesome. Yeah, you're thinking about that

561
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:19.079
for a while. Yeah, So what do you think Tom story?

562
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.720
Oh? Oh yeah, well yeah, Tom Palell, Tom Powell and

563
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.759
I went to my camp Broken Arrow for a couple

564
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.559
of nights, and in one of the days we hiked

565
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.440
up to bag the hot springs. We hiked up there,

566
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.200
and then as we were coming back down the trail

567
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.000
wasn't very wide, but it was well traveled, we see

568
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.720
we see something laying on the ground. We see like

569
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.039
a white belly and white legs, but you can't see

570
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.640
the head. And he goes, Tom goes, that looks like

571
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:51.920
a dead body. Jeff, I'm like, what the heck. Well,

572
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:58.079
some eighty something year old man had hiked up there

573
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.200
by himself and he I guess he'd been over to

574
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.279
tie his shoe and he had a backpack on. Well,

575
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:07.200
he fell backwards and he broken off stick that was

576
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.039
in the ground completely cut the side of his head

577
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.319
wide open, and he was all bloody, and we thought

578
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.599
he was dead. And then we we ended up helping

579
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.440
him up. And so I ran down the trail and

580
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.880
hopped into my rig and went to that Ripple Brook

581
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.279
store and called nine to one one and and uh

582
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.680
and they you know, they set an ambulance and this

583
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.559
guy should not have been driving. He said he almost

584
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:34.680
drove it into the Clacus River like three different times.

585
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.039
I don't know if he had medication he wasn't taking

586
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.319
or or something, but it was a wild ride. I mean,

587
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.680
it doesn't sound like much of an exciting story, but

588
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:44.880
it was pretty weird.

589
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.960
No, that's extremely exciting, Jeff. How many times have you

590
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.480
saved people from almost are probably dying in this area?

591
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.160
I mean I'm counting two so far. That's that's intense, dude.

592
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.640
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you get

593
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.079
you get older, and you know, you even if you's

594
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.440
going for a hike through the woods, you want to

595
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.480
be with somebody. You got to have a partner, because

596
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.440
like Tom and I were walking through the woods that

597
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.760
weekend and it's hard to walk through the woods because

598
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.480
there's so much underbrush and broken limbs and pieces of

599
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.440
you know, wood and stuff, and I kind of I

600
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.320
kind of jammed my ankle and it still bugs me

601
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.880
to this day. You know, you know, if I couldn't walk,

602
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.400
I would have been kind of stuck, you know.

603
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.480
Yeah, I mean absolutely, and that I mean another reason

604
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.639
probably why you wouldn't want to go out by yourself

605
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.760
in these areas is there's always the possibility where you

606
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:43.559
could stumble upon individuals that are are not the most

607
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.159
They're not wanting you to be there because of their

608
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.440
let's say they're growing things or whatever. Who knows. But

609
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.400
I mean you really don't want to be out there

610
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:53.800
by yourself usually.

611
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.679
Yeah. Yeah, we were worn by We were worn by uh,

612
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.760
the couple we're running that Ripplebrook store to not go

613
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.119
up Fish Lake Road. And and if you went up

614
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.920
there and you left your car there and went for

615
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.119
a hiking came back, your car might not be there,

616
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:16.000
or just the just the chassis would be there. Oh wow, Yeah, yeah,

617
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.400
there's a lot. Was went up there a few years

618
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:23.719
ago in late at night and there were people and

619
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.599
campfires all over the place. It was a lot of

620
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:30.719
homeless people up there. It was it was scary. That's

621
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:32.840
that's when I started carrying at all times.

622
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.360
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean you need to do what you

623
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.079
need to do in order to protect yourself out there.

624
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.800
You know you had mentioned Camp Broke an Arrow a

625
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.960
little bit. Do you mind sharing about in the book.

626
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.039
There's an expedition that's that's written about that had some

627
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.519
really interesting things happen. I think.

628
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.960
Yeah, a group of my group of my friends that

629
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.000
I met on Oregon bigfoot dot Com. We got together

630
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.960
there and he met and mister Kaid and headed out there.

631
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:09.400
Jim Domain of Idaho, let's see, was Greg Walker with us.

632
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.360
I can't remember everybody was there, Sue and Tom Contrell

633
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:17.559
was one of the main characters. So Tom, Tom Control, Uh,

634
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.039
we get we get the camp broken arrow and Tom

635
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.880
wasn't feeling good and he had some medical issues and

636
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:25.639
he had a little walker that he used to get

637
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:27.719
around and he didn't get around very quick at all.

638
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.719
And our friend Sue kind of was taking care of him,

639
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.599
making sure he was okay and just looking after him. Well,

640
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.199
we kind of set up camp and I looked at

641
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.639
my friend Jim and I said, Jim, we might be

642
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.440
hauling Tom out of here in the back of your pickup.

643
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:48.159
He looks like death. And and that night I think

644
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.199
it was a three yeah, three nights, all three nights. Well,

645
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.239
I think the first night, I'm in a tent a

646
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.280
little bit aways away from where Sue and Tom Control

647
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:02.480
were sleeping in their tan at and we heard their

648
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.840
tent zipper unziped, and we heard them get out and

649
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:12.360
walk and talk stop and talk, walk stop, talk, and

650
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:14.760
we're like, what what our Sue and Tom doing up

651
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.960
at like, you know, two o'clock in the morning, in

652
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.000
the middle of the night, walking around when he could

653
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:24.320
barely even move, you know, that evening before. Well, you

654
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.360
could hear them talking. It was their voices, but you

655
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.920
couldn't make out what they were saying. And I remember thinking, Okay,

656
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:32.800
this is very concerning. I need to go find out

657
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.559
what's going on. And I reached for the tent zipper

658
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.280
and I started unzipping it and I went, ah, they're fine,

659
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.480
zipped back up and went back to bed. Well, Jim

660
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.039
said he did the same thing, because he and I

661
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.440
were in the same tent. He did the same thing. Well,

662
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.559
next day, Tom's the last one to come out of

663
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.519
the tents, and we had all already had coffee and

664
00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:00.760
started breakfast. I see Tom walking down real slow. He

665
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.519
wasn't using a walker. I said, hey, Tom, what were

666
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:05.159
you and Sue doing walking around in the middle of

667
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.559
night last night? He goes, He goes, hell, ha, wasn't me.

668
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.199
I this is the first time I've been out of

669
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.920
my tent since since I hit the hay. He goes, well,

670
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.119
I'll tell you. I'll talk to you later about this. Well,

671
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.559
it turns out that I think they had heard I

672
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.039
might get some of the details wrong, but I thought

673
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.199
they said they heard something walk up to the tent,

674
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.360
and then Sue could hear this vibrational sound, and I

675
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.159
think there was a light. Well anyway, Tom says, well, yeah,

676
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.840
that vibration's coming from my chest. Well, whatever it was,

677
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.360
it was working on his heart, healing up his heart,

678
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.000
so that next day he looked like twenty years younger.

679
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.440
And I believe it happened all three nights and by

680
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.400
the end of the trip he was like a new man.

681
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.679
It was absolutely unbelievable.

682
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.519
Do you have any thoughts about what could have caused

683
00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:59.559
that that experienced?

684
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:08.079
Jeff Well, I think the healing powers that possibly the

685
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:12.480
forest people can can can do on other people, other beings,

686
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:13.960
I think I think that might have been it.

687
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.480
Mm hmm. It's you know, it's it's not the time.

688
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:19.960
It's not the first time that something like that has

689
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.960
come up in this this show is it's very very

690
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.880
interesting to consider that and to look at all the

691
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.360
different reports about like you know, this happened in my house,

692
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.039
or this happened when I went out, and yeah, yeah,

693
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.239
just some some really interesting stuff.

694
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.760
Well, I got it something like that just happened to

695
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.440
me last week. If you want to hear.

696
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:45.679
About that, yes, definitely.

697
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:55.360
And so, uh so, a couple of weeks ago, Priscilla,

698
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.599
you know from Oak Ridge, she texts me, messaged me

699
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.800
and she said, hey, my friend Pam watched one of

700
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.760
our videos, you know, the Area fifty eight museum videos

701
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.119
that Priscilla's been putting out. And she said, yeah, I

702
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:16.039
saw the video you just put out, and she said

703
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.880
she was looking at me in the video and was

704
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.480
concerned that I was having some health issues. And so

705
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:26.719
Pam had texted that to Priscilla, and I guess I

706
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:33.320
texted Priscilla at the same time. So Priscilla was forwarding

707
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.440
all the messages Pam was giving her about me. And

708
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.199
then all of a sudden, I got really concerned about

709
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:40.960
my health because I had been kind of feeling like,

710
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.079
feeling really down, not feeling very good, and I felt

711
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.599
like I was having stomach issues. My dad died of

712
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.159
stomach cancer six years ago, and it's always kind of

713
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.880
bothers me that. Yeah, and in my stomach and my

714
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.000
guts were kind of hurting, and I was getting really concerned.

715
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.920
And so then you know, Pam's kind of been intwo

716
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.079
of gal and relaying that her feeling her message to me,

717
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:10.000
And so about a week goes by, maybe two weeks later,

718
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.480
this just this just happened the other day where I was.

719
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.360
I went to bed and I felt my stomach was

720
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.039
kind of screwed up, and I remember laying on my

721
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:21.000
side thinking, heal me, heal me, and I fell asleep

722
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.599
saying that to myself, heal me, heal me. Well, a

723
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:27.320
couple hours later, I woke up to a jolt. I

724
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.800
felt like my body was full of like electricity or

725
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.760
something or vibrating, and I kind of felt like my

726
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:38.159
whole body just jumped off the bed and and it

727
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:43.440
was the weirdest feeling. And then I don't know if

728
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.800
it was like an how the body type experience where

729
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.239
some people talk about how where their soul these their body,

730
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.719
they can they feel a separation of some kind, and

731
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.000
then when they get slammed back into their body, there's

732
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.760
sort of a shocking feeling. That's kind of what it

733
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.920
was like. And I woke up and I was kind

734
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.400
of scared and I and I just said heal me,

735
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.880
heal me, and I went back to sleep, and then

736
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.679
a little while later, I feel my whole all my

737
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.679
my stomach and my whole belly area vibrating and sort

738
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.320
of electrified or something that's kind and hard to explain.

739
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:17.280
And and then I felt like something just like there

740
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.800
was a string attached to all that sensation, and something

741
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.239
just like ripped it right out of my body. And

742
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.039
I woke up. I was kind of scared again, and

743
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.480
I laid there and I said, heal me, heal me.

744
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.079
And then I felt the same thing happening to my

745
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.079
right shoulder and I had I had a major surgery

746
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:39.159
on it a year and a half ago, and I

747
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:45.000
could feel my the surgery area doing the getting tingled

748
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.800
and vibrating or whatever kind of an electrical impulse, and

749
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.400
just like somebody had a string attached to it, yanked

750
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.559
it right out of my shoulder and it was gone.

751
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.159
And I woke up and I fell back to sleep,

752
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.599
and I haven't felt I feel so much better now.

753
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:05.599
It's like I got healed or something. I don't know.

754
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:07.679
I don't have any pains in my stomach or anything

755
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.559
like that. And so then I so then I started

756
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.440
I texted Priscilla, and I guess Pam had just texted

757
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:18.480
her at the same time, and so she relayed my

758
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.519
messages to Pan and it was just really weird. Dude.

759
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:26.239
I don't know what that was, but I feel one

760
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.519
hundred percent better than I did, like just a couple

761
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:29.559
of weeks ago.

762
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.440
That is. That is incredible, Jeff. It reminds me of

763
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.920
a gentleman I've been talking to from the Mount Rainier

764
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.440
area who had it's a very very similar thing happened

765
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.840
with the different parts of his body, specifically his back

766
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:52.079
being affected, but then healed. The difference between his account

767
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.360
and yours is afterwards then he had to deal with

768
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.639
some weird stuff happening around his house. And hopefully that's

769
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:03.159
not the case for yourself. But that I've noticed, that's good.

770
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.239
And that just happened last week, he said.

771
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:06.880
Yeah, just a few days ago.

772
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:11.199
Wow, Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's very very interesting. It'd

773
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:19.920
be interesting if so. The area is very interesting, as

774
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.239
we both know and listeners know, because you know, we

775
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:26.880
just I just talked to Priscilla and it's come up

776
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:32.920
in different and man, hmm, I wonder oh boy. Yeah, Okay,

777
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:34.719
I'm going to keep that in mind to you because

778
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:36.840
you are an individual that's going up to the Oak

779
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.159
Cole area quite a bit with that with the group.

780
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.840
Be interesting, something like that happens to anyone else in

781
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:49.440
the group as well. So well, we'll see. Yeah over

782
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.760
the years, Jeff, what do you think the closest that

783
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.119
you've gotten to a big foot when you've been out

784
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:55.840
has been.

785
00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:58.679
Right next to it?

786
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.440
Okay?

787
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.400
He protected. Yeah, how's that for an answer?

788
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.840
That's cool? Big for society. Who will be right back

789
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:08.920
after these messages?

790
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.320
Yeah. Uh so my buddy Jim Demaine, he's some or

791
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.760
female Idaho. We he has a spot out there we

792
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.960
call Antler Creek and uh uh, I want. I didn't

793
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.320
make it out there the first year that he was

794
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.000
going there, but I got there the second year and

795
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.719
we I think we stayed three nights up there. Well. Uh.

796
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:47.880
He had set up this great, big canvas tent that

797
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:49.760
he used to use when he went Elk country all

798
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.960
the time. And uh and so I had a cot

799
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:54.559
at the back side of the tent and he had

800
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.519
a cat on the toward the front on the on

801
00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:59.599
the left side if you're looking out the front door.

802
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:06.760
And the first night, we everybody crash and everyone's sleeping

803
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:11.039
and I'm laying there on that cot, and beyond the

804
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:12.840
cot on that end of the tent was a dead

805
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:18.760
end road, and I hear this incredible crashing sound coming

806
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.800
through the woods, like a train going through the woods,

807
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.639
and it woke me up. And then I could hear

808
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:27.360
something big and heavy walking toward the tent, and I

809
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.880
thought to myself, Oh, they're here. And I sat up

810
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.280
on my I sat up in bed, I sat up

811
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:37.000
on the cot, and whatever it was walked right up

812
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.119
to the edge of the tent and stood right next

813
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.800
to me on the other side of that canvas, and

814
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.480
I could hear it breathing and handling and exhaling, and

815
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:48.840
I thought, whatever that is, that's got to be at

816
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:50.960
least ten feet tall, because you can hear the breathing

817
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.880
way up high. And then then I hear like the

818
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.239
bitter pattern of little feet running down the gravel road.

819
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.440
And then you could hear our like pots and pans

820
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.480
and coolers being opened and shut and played with. And

821
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.039
then whatever was standing next to me at the end

822
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.400
of the edge of the tent walked around the tent

823
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.480
and walked into the camp. That happened all three nights

824
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.079
that we were there. So I mean, can I say

825
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.880
that was really a forest person, big foot, sasquatch, whatever,

826
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.079
stating in there. No, I can't really say for sure

827
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:29.320
because I didn't see it, but it certainly seemed like it.

828
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.000
I don't know what else it could have been.

829
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.840
Did you ever get the did at any time where

830
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.639
you're like, man, maybe I should look at the tent?

831
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:39.599
Maybe not?

832
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:48.119
No, isn't that the weirdest thing? Yeah, it's like you Well,

833
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.039
I sat up, it walked up to the tent, I thought, oh,

834
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.679
maybe I better lay back down. And once I laid

835
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:56.920
back down, pin pot or pinner patter, and then the

836
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:58.679
big guy walked around the edge of the tent and

837
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.079
into the camp. And then next thing I know, I'm

838
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:02.639
dead asleep.

839
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:06.719
Okay, oh my goodness. It's like, okay, I'm gonna ask

840
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.400
him next. Did he fall to sleep immediately?

841
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:10.760
Yeah?

842
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:15.800
Yeah, Because like through I talked to people multiple times

843
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.440
daily and so, and I'm also like really good at

844
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:23.400
finding patterns, and I'm like, do everyone who has these

845
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.519
encounters like you're saying, it's like boom, they go to

846
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.400
sleep immediate, and like why is that? I'm trying to

847
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:30.519
figure out why that is?

848
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.639
You know, oh they put you out?

849
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:35.000
Yeah, you think so.

850
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.119
Oh yeah, no doubt in my mind. Yeah, it tapping

851
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.400
several times to me, So yeah, it's crazy.

852
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.400
Did because you had other people in that campsite with you? Correct?

853
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:46.880
Correct?

854
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.000
Did they have similar experiences where they were hearing stuff

855
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.719
and things?

856
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:56.000
Uh? Well, at this Idaho camp there were probably four

857
00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:00.320
or five tents set up, and uh well, I'll tell

858
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.800
you whatever. Another thing that happened one of the nights,

859
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.920
after the big guy walked up, little ones ran in.

860
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:10.880
I fell back to sleep. I woke up because I

861
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.239
thought the cops had showed up. They were like these

862
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.920
swirling these lights. I could see through the canvas, like

863
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:21.039
these orange and yellowish lights, and I thought, what the

864
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.280
heck are the cops doing here? There's lights everywhere. And

865
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.559
then I put my glasses on and realized that I'm

866
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.360
seeing what look like fire in the sky all around me,

867
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.800
you know, around the tent. And then I looked out

868
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.239
the front of the tent and our fire had started

869
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:41.199
up all by itself. And I stared, and I think

870
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.960
I rubbed my eyes and I said, Jim, wake up.

871
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.079
He's like huh, I said, Jim, our fire started up

872
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:49.960
all by itself. And he leaned forward and looked toward

873
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.119
the front, and he's like, oh, it did well. There

874
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.599
were two dancing flames side by side, just going up

875
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.400
from like three or four feet low to ten or

876
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.199
twelve feet tall, just side by side, two flames dancing

877
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:09.400
dancing away, and there were two ten foot tall dark

878
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:16.000
beans walking around it clockwise. And we sat there. Well,

879
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.079
we both agreed. It was like fifteen twenty minutes. We

880
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.639
sat there and watched. None of us even thought about

881
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.039
getting out and you know, walking out there. We just

882
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.840
sat there on our cots. And then the fire completely

883
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:30.280
died down pitch to pitch darkness, and we both were

884
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.719
out instantly. I heard Jim snore, and Jim says he

885
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:38.400
heard me snore first. That's the only difference in our

886
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.199
account of that happening that is different.

887
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.360
Oh wow, so you you with your eyes actually saw

888
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.480
these two things walking around.

889
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:56.159
Yes, oh, man, Jeff well in, Jeremiah. It took a

890
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.679
year for that to sink in. Jim and I would

891
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.800
talk on the phone. Jim and I would talk on

892
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.000
the phone, you know, like once a week for a

893
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:08.800
whole year, and and uh, one time I called him up.

894
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.159
I said, hey, Jim, remember the dancing flames He's like, yep,

895
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.480
because I've been meaning to talk to you about that.

896
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.039
I said, there's more to it, right, He's like, Yep.

897
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.639
It took us a year for our brains to allow

898
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.079
us to remember that we saw the two figures walking

899
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.639
clockwise around the dancing flames.

900
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.239
What do you think it is that that those two

901
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:32.440
figures were that you saw?

902
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:38.079
Well, I want to say they were forest people. Other

903
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.239
people have told me that that might not be such

904
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:45.920
a nice entity, but I don't want to go there.

905
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.000
I mean, I don't discount that it could have been

906
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:54.039
something else and uh but anyway, uh, in my mind,

907
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:55.599
I want to I want to say it was some

908
00:51:55.639 --> 00:52:01.119
type of some type of ceremonial uh thing that we

909
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.039
were allowed to watch, some kind of ancient ceremonial type

910
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:10.360
of you know deal. I don't know. I've asked a

911
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.440
lot of people what they might think this is, and

912
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.039
that's pretty much the best answer I can come up with.

913
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.880
Yeah, that's interesting. It would be really interesting to know

914
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.360
if the area that you guys were in had a

915
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:26.079
history of like being used by Native Americans in the

916
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:30.519
area for things like that, or just what the history

917
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:31.480
of it was, you know.

918
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:37.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you off air a little.

919
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:38.360
Bit more about that, gotcha.

920
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.199
Got I don't. I don't want to give the location.

921
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:42.280
I don't want to give the location away completely.

922
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.880
I totally get it. When you would wake up the

923
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:51.679
next morning, would you see anything outside that you're like, oh, man,

924
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.280
well look at that right there.

925
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.280
No, it's funny because like after okay, something happened. I

926
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:04.440
think every night that over that three night span, and

927
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.280
it like the next morning it was like, you know,

928
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.840
I get up, make coffee and you know, start bowl

929
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.119
crappling with some of the other guys that were there,

930
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.400
and an hour or two goes by it and it's like,

931
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.719
holy crap, I just remember what happened last night. You

932
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.800
guys got to hear this. It's like I woke up and,

933
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.960
like you forget all about it for a while and

934
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.960
then all of a sudden, bam, your memory comes back.

935
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.280
But like the after the dancing flames, we looked in

936
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:31.239
the fire pit. There was a paper plate, I want

937
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.360
to say, a plastic spoon or a fork in a

938
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.320
like a plastic or a paper cup in the fire.

939
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.800
So the fire wasn't real. Although some of the gals

940
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:46.159
that were in their their own tents. They didn't really

941
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.760
see the flames, but they could they could they could

942
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.639
hear the fire crackle. I mean, they could tell there

943
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:53.800
was a fire going on, but nobody got out to

944
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.199
look at it. But they didn't see the flames like

945
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.719
Jim and I did, but they knew there was a fire.

946
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.719
I don't remember hearing the crack lean of the fire,

947
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.719
but other people in the camp did hear the crackling

948
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.960
of the fire, but it wasn't a real fire that

949
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:06.440
I know of.

950
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:12.920
M's that's that is so extremely interesting. Idaho has some weird,

951
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:17.239
weird stuff happened out there, just weird stuff.

952
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:17.519
Man.

953
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:20.840
Do you think that's the one time where you've had

954
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.880
potentially a visual sighting of something that could have been

955
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:26.719
like a bigfoot forest person.

956
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.760
Well, I've had a couple maybe if well, we did

957
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.400
see in twenty twenty one. It was July first, twenty

958
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.559
twenty one. Jim, Jim and I went to that spot

959
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:40.360
and it was during we had a heat wave out

960
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.840
here in the Pacific Northwest. I mean it was like

961
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:43.639
one hundred and fifteen plus out here.

962
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:44.519
Oh my god.

963
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.119
And we stayed one night and the horse flies are

964
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.519
so bad. It was just miserable. We got up. We

965
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.199
got up the next morning kind of early, and Jim

966
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:56.519
looked at me. I looked at him, and you said,

967
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:57.920
you want to get out of here. I'm like, yeah,

968
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.440
this isn't working. And we I think it was two

969
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:04.599
tenths of a mile down the road, following a creek.

970
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:08.360
We see it about a twelve foot tall male sasquatch

971
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:18.719
standing in the creek. Really yep, yeah, well I first

972
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:20.800
saw it. I think it was bending over, but it

973
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.119
was massive. When it was bent over, it was massive.

974
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.360
And then I told Jim to stop. I just saw

975
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.760
a big sasquatch. So he had to back up a

976
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.360
little bit because the trees were blocking the view. And

977
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:33.840
he backed up a little bit and he goes, oh,

978
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:35.559
I see it too, And then it stood up all

979
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:40.079
the way and I believe it realized there's a truck

980
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:41.559
with a couple of guys in it staring at me,

981
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.320
and it was exit stage left in a hurry. I

982
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.239
mean it was gone in an instant.

983
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.880
Wow, you're saying around twelve foot tall.

984
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:57.079
That's that's what I think in my home. Man, Yeah,

985
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:57.880
it was massive.

986
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.280
Did it look similar you know? Uh? Well, I'll ask

987
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:05.039
you this so what you saw that day. Have there

988
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:09.440
been any other representations that have come close to what

989
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:10.440
you saw that day.

990
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:13.800
That I've seen personally?

991
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.440
Yeah, like in media or you know things like that.

992
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:22.679
Oh no, not really, because you know, you got you

993
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:26.400
got the Patty and the Patterson Gidman film. You know

994
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:33.719
the female. This was way taller, way bulkier, uh, massive shoulders.

995
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:36.480
I could stretch my arms or my hands from side

996
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:40.280
to side, stretch out my arms and it was probably

997
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:45.519
that wide the shoulders. And we were we were gosh,

998
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.480
we were less than two hundred feet away from it.

999
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:51.159
That's that's pretty close, man.

1000
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.480
Mm hmm. Yeah, it was. It was amazing. It was.

1001
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:56.320
It was pretty cool.

1002
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:02.039
So well, it walked off by itself. It was you guys,

1003
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.039
you probably would have watched it forever. I'm guessing, Oh yeah.

1004
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.119
We I think maybe. I think maybe I saw it

1005
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.440
for a whole ten seconds, and Jim saw it for

1006
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:15.000
maybe a whole five seconds. Seemed like eternity. But it

1007
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.800
didn't walk away. It just was swosh gone. It went

1008
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:24.599
to its left and it was just a blur like

1009
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:25.719
like in the Flash of Beauty.

1010
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.039
It was gone, there you go, he shout out, Flash

1011
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.199
of Beauty. Guys, check it out if you haven't checked

1012
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.159
it out. Jeffson Jeffson the first documentary.

1013
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:35.960
Right, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's how I got in there.

1014
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.039
We got to town and I ended up texting a

1015
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.000
bunch of people and I called Joe bil Art told

1016
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:43.760
him about it, and he had just gotten interviewed by

1017
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:47.159
by the Flash of Beauty team and told them about me,

1018
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.199
and they interviewed me a couple of days later.

1019
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.440
Oh that's amazing. Wow. Did you notice anything out of

1020
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:56.519
the ordinary when it walked away about its gate or

1021
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:57.239
the way it moved.

1022
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.960
Yeah, well, it didn't walk away. It was just swush gone.

1023
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:06.119
I mean it like it went like floated to it's left.

1024
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.679
Like I don't even ever seen it take a step.

1025
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:09.480
It was just gone.

1026
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:17.159
It's like a blur, a swosh and it was yeah,

1027
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.079
And it was standing in the creek in the water

1028
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:21.159
and it was just gone.

1029
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:31.199
M How often do you think about what you saw

1030
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:31.599
that day?

1031
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.960
Well? I think about it quite often. Yeah, I mean

1032
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:37.840
I don't dwell on it. I don't really dwell on it,

1033
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.920
but you know, you know from time to time.

1034
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:45.760
Would you ever want to see what you saw that

1035
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:46.519
day again?

1036
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:53.039
Oh? Absolutely, yeah, sure.

1037
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.960
Did you get a pretty good look at the face

1038
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:56.679
of it then.

1039
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.000
Uh no, it was like seven point thirty in them,

1040
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.599
and the sun was coming and if the sun was

1041
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.519
at an angle, and there's a lot of trees around,

1042
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.840
so I wasn't able to make out any distinct features.

1043
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:14.360
It was like a solid black mass, is what I saw.

1044
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.519
I mean, it was so thick through the midsection and

1045
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.159
the legs. It was just you could tell it was

1046
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:23.239
super muscular, but you couldn't make out any facial features

1047
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:26.360
or anything like that. But it was. It was quite

1048
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:27.280
the sight, I gotta tell you.

1049
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:33.679
I mean, logically, there's nothing else in that area that

1050
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.960
fits the whole, like very muscular, super wide, twelve foot

1051
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.039
tall and just glides like swishes away. I mean, there's

1052
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:45.559
nothing else that could have been man like.

1053
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.119
I don't know, no, no, I know, I've been up

1054
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.079
in an area before, you know, saw a moose down

1055
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:55.199
below in a creek or a river, and you know

1056
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:58.199
other you know, saw some wolves and stuff like that.

1057
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.400
But uh yeah, nothing like that. I mean, there's nothing

1058
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:02.079
else that could have been.

1059
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.360
Nothing that's wild, dude, wild wild. So I gotta go

1060
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.920
back and rewatch your your interviews on the Flasher of

1061
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:13.639
Beauty channel, guys, which you can. You should go do it.

1062
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.639
I'm sure all my listeners are are already subscribed to

1063
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:21.960
Flash of Beauty, but they should be. I'll have links

1064
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.599
in the show, yes to that. I wanna we're gonna,

1065
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:32.840
We're gonna kind of transition to something completely different. What

1066
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:36.079
do you think is going on up in the Oak

1067
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:36.800
Hole area?

1068
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.119
Well, I think it's a magical place.

1069
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.719
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1070
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:09.400
Whatever is there, it doesn't seem like us humans are

1071
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:13.400
really bugging bugging them. I know you've had experiences when

1072
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.840
you were there last July, you know, and Ronnie Roseman

1073
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.719
has been going to that spot for I don't know

1074
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.960
what ten years or so. He has never had a

1075
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.400
side anybody's had heard a lot of a lot of

1076
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:28.639
vocalizations and had a lot of weird stuff happened to him.

1077
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.639
And uh, you know, we we were up there one

1078
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.119
time and Alicia and Priscilla heard these wooden knocking sounds,

1079
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.599
and so Steve and I and their son Ben we

1080
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:41.079
walked up to where they were and and we even

1081
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:48.639
heard some of these wooden knocking sounds also, and uh,

1082
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.679
Alicia was walking by herself one night down the road

1083
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.760
and heard something like step toward her, and then she

1084
01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:58.280
asked it to take another step toward her, and it did,

1085
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:02.000
and she turned her around and was screaming and freaking

1086
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.519
out and ran back, ran back toward us and Steve

1087
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:08.360
and I heard leaning up against their minivan thing like, oh,

1088
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:12.880
wonder what's going on over there? And so we kind

1089
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:14.719
of let the girls just walk off by themselves because

1090
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:17.159
they seem to be a magnet. You know, We're we're

1091
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:20.599
kind of there for moral support, but there's you know,

1092
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:23.719
it just seems like every time we go up there,

1093
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:28.679
something weird happens, either to our electronics. And I think

1094
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:32.880
Alicia and Criscilla told you about how Alicia's voice recorder

1095
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.840
went flying off her car and landed on hit Steve

1096
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:38.440
in the foot while I was standing on the side

1097
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:41.159
of the car at the back end. And yeah, there

1098
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.400
went just whosh bam right down by his feet. I

1099
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:48.800
was a witness, and uh, you just you know, phones

1100
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:52.440
were locking up or running out of memory, and I

1101
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:57.239
don't know that it's a magical area, and and uh, yeah,

1102
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.079
I don't know what's going on up there, but it's

1103
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:00.000
going on. I'll tell you that.

1104
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:04.800
Yeah, there's uh, there's it's affecting car batteries too, right.

1105
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:07.639
Oh yeah, it affects their car batteries sometimes.

1106
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:12.559
Yeah, man, that's it's it's a weird, weird. It is

1107
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:17.000
a magical place, though. I mean, that's really the perfect

1108
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:23.039
way to say it. I hopefully get it, you know,

1109
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:30.079
able to go up there again this July, of you

1110
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.639
will thought many a time of it thought, dude, let

1111
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.760
me tell you this. When I got back from there,

1112
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:40.960
I was having the most vivid dreams about that place.

1113
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:44.360
It was insanity. I've never had vivid dreams like that,

1114
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.199
to the point where like I could see things like

1115
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:51.480
walking around in the meadow and dude, it was. It

1116
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:54.679
was messing with me for a few weeks, some really

1117
01:03:54.679 --> 01:04:04.360
weird stuff, Jeff. But yeah, yeah, yeah it it definitely once,

1118
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.239
you bet, yeah, once you've been in that area, you're like,

1119
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.039
I gotta go back. It's kind of like, do you

1120
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:13.960
remember the old show Lost that was out, Like, you know,

1121
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:15.679
I don't think I ever thought, oh man, you never

1122
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:20.079
saw it. Okay, well, okay, here's here's the spoiler for

1123
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.039
anyone who has this Lost Skip ahead. But so they're

1124
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:25.599
trying to get off this island, and then they get

1125
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:27.440
off the island and then they're like, oh, we got

1126
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.480
to go back, you know, and then they try to

1127
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.599
get back to this place. It's like it just draws

1128
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.079
you back in. And I've talked to other people that

1129
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.079
have been up to that area and they're having the

1130
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:38.559
same thing. They're like, they're just being drawn back in.

1131
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:41.840
I'm like, well, don't go by yourself, you know, go

1132
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.480
go with someone else, just in case, because you're way

1133
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:45.400
way out there.

1134
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:50.639
Right. Oh yeah, well that's how can't Well that's exactly

1135
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:53.079
how cant Broken Arrow was for me and Antrick Creek

1136
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:55.920
up in Idaho. You just you're drawn to it. I mean,

1137
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.239
you miss it, you need it, you know, it's like

1138
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:00.519
a party of you is there?

1139
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.559
Do I need to cut out the name in Idaho?

1140
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:11.239
The name it's not really called it. That's a made

1141
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:11.639
up name.

1142
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:16.719
That's the thing I love about Bigfooting is that people

1143
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:19.840
in the Bigfoot we always have our made up names

1144
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:21.679
for areas, love it.

1145
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.719
Yeah. Yeah, well, well you you have the location. I

1146
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:30.480
sent you the location, right, yeah you did. But yeah, yeah,

1147
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:31.239
it's just magical.

1148
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:36.760
I tell you, good stuff, Jeff. It has been a

1149
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.639
pleasure to have you on the show. I mean we've been,

1150
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.519
we've we've talked about so many different things, and uh,

1151
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.719
it's just it's been really fun to see to be

1152
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.679
able to get your your whole story. And other people

1153
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.039
may have already known the whole Jeff story, but you know,

1154
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:56.199
now I have much more than just an individual I

1155
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:58.880
met at at Oakridge. So it's been a pleasure.

1156
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:01.920
Yeah, you got you got the tip of the iceberg.

1157
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:04.679
All right, we'll talk.

1158
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:08.480
Yeah, maybe we'll have to talk again sometime. But is

1159
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:12.960
there anything that uh, you know, you uh, if people

1160
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.880
want to reach out to you or or or you know,

1161
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:19.800
follow what you're doing or anything like that that you

1162
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:20.920
want to shout out.

1163
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:24.519
Well, I mean I have a YouTube channel, but it's

1164
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.400
not really dedicated to anything other than just silly things

1165
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:31.320
that I post. But I would say if if people

1166
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:36.039
wanted to follow uh, Priscilla and Alicia's website Area fifty

1167
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:40.559
eight Museum on YouTube, you can you can find me there.

1168
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.320
Yeah, absolutely, because like they do these awesome vlogs where

1169
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.320
they go out and there's plenty of Jeff stuff in

1170
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:50.400
those those vogs of people are like, man, I want

1171
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:52.800
to watch Jeff get into some Adventures. I mean, that's

1172
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:54.360
that's the place to do it, so make sure you

1173
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:55.280
subscribe over there.

1174
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.360
So yeah, yeah, we may mainly just go out there

1175
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:02.559
and goof off and then have fun and nothing too serious,

1176
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.920
but we're gonna, i think, one the weather gets nicer,

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we do a little bit more serious type stuff with

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the YouTube channel up there at PoCA Pole. But you know,

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can you never know what you're going to run into

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on the way home, like a big blue cloud of smoke.

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Man, Yeah, that's a little that's a little in joke

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for those that watch the channel. But are you going

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to be at the Oakrid Sasquatch Summerfest maybe, Jeff, Oh,

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I am for sure. Oh awesome. Well, there you go, guys.

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If you want to say hi to Jeff, you can

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probably find them around that festival this year in July

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eleventh through twelve. But man, Jeff, thank you so much

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for coming on this afternoon and for sharing what you've

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experienced over the years. It's been a pleasure.

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Yeah, you're very welcome. I had fun. Thanks.

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Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

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you to you Holman listeners for listening to the podcast.

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Please take a minute to help out the show by

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you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

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all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

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McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

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see you back next time. Listeners. SASA Summerfest this year

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July eleventh through the twelfth. It's going to be fantastic.

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July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park and Oakridge, Oregon,

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and listeners, if you're going to go, you can get

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a two day ticket for the cost of one if

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you use the code b F S like Bigfoot Society

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but BFS and I'll get used some off your cost.

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Priscilla wasn't nice enough to provide that for my listeners.

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So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there,

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so make sure you head over to www Dot Sasquatch

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Summerfest dot com and pick up your tickets today