Feb. 5, 2025

The Original Residents | Wisconsin | Nebraska

Dive into a fascinating journey on the Bigfoot Society Podcast with Andrew as he recounts a series of chilling Bigfoot encounters in Northern Wisconsin and the Omaha Reservation in Nebraska. From unexplained activities at his family cabin in Sawyer...

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Season 1

Dive into a fascinating journey on the Bigfoot Society Podcast with Andrew as he recounts a series of chilling Bigfoot encounters in Northern Wisconsin and the Omaha Reservation in Nebraska. From unexplained activities at his family cabin in Sawyer County to spiritual experiences with the Rez Squatching Research group, Andrew shares a wealth of compelling stories. Hear about eerie sounds, mysterious footprints, and spine-tingling interactions that span decades, all tied to Bigfoot lore. This episode is rich with local history, sightings, and the unique cultural perspectives of Native American beliefs surrounding Sasquatch.

Resources:See a picture of the "Primitive Fisherman" here - https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2244

BFRO report referred in interview here: https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=75457

Rez Squatching Research - https://www.facebook.com/p/Rez-Squatching-Research-100064514029621/

Ci'Tonga: Bigfoot, Spirits and Faith | Cryptids Documentary | Full Movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0lkBb3CkNQ

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slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoo's Society. We've got the

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privilege of talking to Andrew today. Andrew's a member of

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the Patreon community and he's reaching out to share some

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interesting experiences that have happened up there in northern Wisconsin,

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but also some experiences that he was part of on

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the Omaha Reservation out there north of Maha, Nebraska. So

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welcome to the show today, Andrew.

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Thanks Jerem. I appreciate it. Really excited to talk to

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you tonight.

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Absolutely, I remember having part of this conversation with you

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in a I think it was a Patreon special meeting. Yeah,

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it was the end of the month thing we do.

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And I remember you sharing all about the Northern Wisconsin

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stuff and I was like, man, this is I wish

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this was recorded right now. So I'm glad that you

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know we have you back in a kind of a

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different setting in order to get things documented about what

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happened up there in northern Wisconsin. So is there anything

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that the listeners would need to know about you context

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wise before we get into things?

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Andrew, No, don't. I don't think so.

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I think my context comes in my family history and

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in the history of the area in which my family

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owns a vacation cabin, a tiny little cabin on Callahan

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and Mud Lakes in Sawyer County. And of course, through time,

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my interest in the subject has taken me elsewhere in

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Sawyer County, Wisconsin and is with me at home now

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in Omaha, Nebraska. And I definitely wanted to share an

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experience that I had, like you mentioned, on the Omaha

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Reservation working with Reds Squatching Research.

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Shout out to Barry Webster.

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I will get into my conversations briefly that I've had

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with Barry as it pertains to my experience as well.

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Perfect, well, Andrew, let's go ahead, and you know, let's

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not wait any any longer. I'm going to have you

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go ahead and take us up to northern Wisconsin and

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feel free to start where you would like to.

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Great, thank you.

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So my immediate experience and history with Bigfoot starts on

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Callahan and Mud Lakes and Sawyer County, Wisconsin. And the

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first settler on that on Callahan Lake was a famous lagger,

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Bill Strassus. He built his first home on the lake

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in nineteen fourteen. And at that time people would have

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to fish Callahan and Mud Lakes separately because there was

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so much vegetation and muck just separate, you know, separating them.

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So in nineteen thirty seven they created a system of

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spillways and dams that flooded the area in order to

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combine Callahan and Mud Lakes, which created kind of a

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flowage from the I believe Northwest Tiger Cat flowage goes

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into mud goes into Callahan.

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Callahan.

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This dam, one of the dams that they built, drains

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into what is the North Chief River.

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So my.

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Father's mother, So my grandma my dad's side, her father

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built one of the first resorts on Callahan Lake.

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It was called North.

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Holme Resort, and then he built a few cabins to

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the south with the help of his children, which would

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be my grandmother my great uncle, and they built it

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all by hand. They you know, they and they were

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children at the time. So my grandmother would tell us

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stories about, you know, putting up the logs, and she

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was the one who was inside, chinking on the inside

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and applying the lacquer and things like that, and a

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majority of the structure remains original structure remains intact today

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it's a tiny little shack that is now amidst you

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know a number of more modern homes and large vacation

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cabins and it's a beautiful area, lots of great fishing,

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lots of wildlife. But that's kind of my family's initial

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history into it. Now, my great grandfather, the story is

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he lost the land in a poker game and he

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also ended up passing away nearby. I'm not aware of

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a real conclusive cause of death or anything, but that

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happened right near the property. And in the nineteen seventies,

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my grandfather. So my grandmother who built the cabin, her

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husband was able to purchase two plots of land that

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her father had originally settled, if you will, So this

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is the only the two plots of land. One is

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on the west side, which is Callahan Lakefront property, and

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the other plot of land is across the street which

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is leads down to the dam where the dam spills

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out and the North Chief River. So if anyone's in

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the audience is familiar with Hayward, Wisconsin, Sawyer County, Wisconsin,

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you know fishing is a major part of life there,

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and the National Freshwater Fishing Museum and Hayward, Wisconsin is there.

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My grandfather and my great uncle, my grandmother's brother, who

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helped build the cabin back in the nineteen thirties early forties,

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they actually helped fund the building of the National Freshwater

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Fishing Museum. And the reason I bring that up is

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because within the National Freshwater Fishing Museum there are two

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statues that are labeled the Primitive Fishermen, And you might

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think that would be a nod to the local indigenous

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a Jibwe the band of a jibwey up there is

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the Lacuteret and that's what you think it might be.

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You know, something a little bit more primitive fishermen, you know,

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you with thin human fishermen.

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Well, they're bigfoots. They are, without a question, statues of bigfoots.

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They're hairy there, they're huge.

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I do have photos, and I have photos of I

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put together an experience map for the listeners and some

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other related photos pertaining to my experiences that I will

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actually post on the Patreon episode as soon as soon

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as that's released, so people will get to see what

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those what those.

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Things look like. They are not fisher men. They are sasquatch,

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without a doubt.

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So now as it pertains to Bigfoot and my family's connection,

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one of the first stories that I remember hearing was

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about how my grandpa and my great uncle would try

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to scare the children by pretending to be bears. But

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what they did was they put black garbage bags over

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themselves and then got on the roof of the cabin

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and would stomp around. That's not that you know, and

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a lot of these experiences that I'll be sharing, it

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didn't I'd never realized what it really could have been

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or been symbolizing until much later when I got really serious,

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seriously interested in bigfoot. But that just always, you know

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now today that strikes me as odd. That is bigfoot activity.

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That is not what bears do. Bears do not crawl

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on people's roofs and stomp their feet around. So that's,

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you know, that is a little anecdotal thing. The second

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story that I remember from hearing from this was a

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story that my dad told me when we were kids,

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and my mom verified. They were staying at the cabin

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in August back in the nineteen eighties.

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It was their anniversary.

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That's why we know it was August. Well, they ended

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up hearing what sounded like a woman being murdered in

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the woods, and they were terrified and they didn't know

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what it was. They legitimately thought that there was a

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woman being murdered in the woods, and they it was

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getting it was. They said it was extremely loud, and

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it was getting closer and closer to the cabin, and

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so they're sitting there, you know, late at night, trying

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to go to sleep, and they're just filled with terror

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over what they're hearing outside.

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So obviously nothing comes.

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Of it, thankfully, But they went and spoke to one

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of the local business owners who really was a family

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friend for generations, and he kind of laughed at him

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and he told them, He asked them, haven't you ever

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heard of bobcat in heat? Yeah, a lot of times

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people may misidentified sasquatch screams with bobcats or mountain lions,

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things like that. But this was a bobcat and heat.

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This was in August, so bobcats and I looked this up.

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So this is how I this.

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Bobcats are in heat, you know, five to ten days

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at a time during mating season, which technically can occur

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year round, but is usually from December to May, with

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the peak in January and February, and this was August.

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So was it possible that it was a bobcat and heat.

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Sure, But we've as the listeners, we all know anyone

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who's into this topic knows that that is, you know,

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a prime example of bigfoot behavior, the screaming. So that's

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kind of that was kind of the second.

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Anecdotal thing that happened with my father's generation and the

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generation before that I did not you know, obviously directly

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witness well the first time that something strange happened that

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I remember personally, we had a yellow lad. His name

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was Sprite, and there was an incident where my parents

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had to rush him to the vet because something had

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happened to him. And I remember that he came back

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with a shaved neck and I believe there was stitches,

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but there was also definitely a rash. No one really

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knows what happened to him, but I'm I'm curious, you know,

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this was all this dog was pretty wild. He used

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to even when when we were you know, back home,

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he he used to like bring home full deer legs

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and and you know, possums and things like that, so

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he he could fend for himself.

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He got messed up by something.

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There are bear in the area, there are supposedly bobcats

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in the area, and other wildlife. But the story that

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we got was that he was he got into a porcupine. Oh,

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if you see what happens to animals, dogs in particular,

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when they get into porcupines, they have the quills all

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in their face and it's, you know, it's all over.

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It's He had nothing wrong with his face, it was

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his neck.

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And a little theory that I've just kind of come up,

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you know, if this were possibly bigfoot activity, you know,

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if he had a rough encounter himself. Was I wonder

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if a bigfoot grabbed his collar and yanked down. It's

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so hard, like we've heard from countless encountertails, you know,

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they you know, you hear about dogs being pulled so

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hard from their chains that it leaves fur behind from

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their necks. And when I think back on it and

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remember what I saw of my dog, you know, that's

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a little theory that I came up with, was that

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he was maybe picked up by the collar or swung

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around by the collar so rough that you know, it

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caused that rash on his neck and you know, sasquatch

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fingernails cut him up.

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I don't know, but that is definitely something strange.

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So he would come back with full deer legs.

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Yeah, at back at home.

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I grew up in Manituac County, Wisconsin, and yeah, we

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we lived on you know, we would move around a

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little bit, but we typically lived on like farm properties

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and and no no bigfoot encounters there that that I'm

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aware of.

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But yeah, he was. He was a wild dog. He

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we he was.

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He always had a collar around, but we never chained

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him up, so he would roaw him around.

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He would, but he would always come back.

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And there were times growing up where I remember walking

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out to get on the school bus and there was

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a deer leg citty sitting on the front stoop. So yeah,

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he was an interesting dog for sure.

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Do you know if if Sprite was the one that

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got the deer legs or do they just randomly show up?

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They would I suppose that's a fair question. They would,

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they would randomly show up. We always assumed it was him.

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So that's interesting. It just there's an interview I just

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did where a lady shares this really interesting interactions they

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would have on their property around Silverton, Oregon. And one

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of the things, well, they were having UFOs all over

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the place. But the other thing was that there would

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be deer legs showing up all over the place that

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were just you know, clean cut, not torn off. It

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was very, very strange. But I just jogged my memory

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because I just had that conversation. So yeah, that's that's

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I don't know, that'd be an interesting thing to think about, Andrews.

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You know, how did those deer legs get there in

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the first place? Who knows, you know.

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But yeah, that's that's a great point, I guess in

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all fairness, I haven't done much research about Manitowac and

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Sheboygan Counties, which were the We lived in a small

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community right on the border between those two, So maybe

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that's some homework.

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For me decide who would be right back after these messages.

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But I feel free to continue with what happened next year.

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So the next core memory that I have is that

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I was my brother Glenn and I he's my younger brother.

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We were fishing on the pier down at the lake

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and we were fighting.

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You know, we had six kids in our family.

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We were always fighting, always getting at each other, always

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picking on each other. And one time my parents were

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out of town, so my grandma was watching us at

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the cabin and we were fighting, ticking on each other,

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screaming at each other, and my grandma yells out, if

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I if I hear you boys fighting anymore, you're gonna

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come up here and go to bed, and you're gonna

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wait until your parents come home to come out right.

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And so we stopped.

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We stopped fighting, and all of a sudden, we started

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hearing something coming through the woods, and.

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At first we were like, what is that? Who's walking

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towards us?

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So the property Immediately to the southwest of our cabin

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at the time was a small little cabin that was

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the same size as ours, and there was never anyone

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up there.

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I mean, we would go up during peak vacationing season.

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Memorial Day and Labor Day were the main times we

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would be up there, and there was no one up there.

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We've never seen anyone up there until a new property

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owner came and built a nice cabin on that property.

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But this was before all of that, so there was

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no one there. And at first we thought, oh, my gosh,

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is at a bear and it stopped, you know, we

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we we were talking about it. We were looking, we

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didn't see anything. But then we really started to hear

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heavier footfalls crashing through the trees the brush, and it

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got progressively worse where it sounded like full trees were

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being snapped in half. And we got really silent as

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it was getting approaching us. The cabin is situated on

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a small little bay right by that damn, and we

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got really quiet, and then something caused both of us

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to simultaneously drop our fishing poles turn around. We got

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our butts up those stairs up toward the cabin, and

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we were in hysterics, crying, screaming, and you know, we

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we go barging into the cabin and my grandma, of course,

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is immediately furious at us, because you know, we were

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we were fighting again, and we were like, no, no, no, no, no,

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we weren't fighting. We promised, and we told her what

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had happened, and you know, she just kind of brushed

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it off and said, all right, well, you two calm down,

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you know, get your wits about yourselves, and just you're

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staying up here for now.

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I was getting dark, it was it was getting dark.

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This was right at twilight, and so that scared the

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crap out of us, and we both we I've had

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conversations with my younger brother Glenn, because as as we'll

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see as we progress.

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Here, he seems to be a focal point.

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Every time I seem to have an experience, he's he's

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also around. So that was really the first strange, really strange.

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You know thing.

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And at the time we didn't know what any of

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this was. We had no idea, We had no idea

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what it was. We still don't really know. But as

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we get into the subject, you know, a lot of

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this is aligning with what we're hearing, you know, bigfoot

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encounters around the entire United States. So the next thing

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that I remember, our cabin had it has a screened

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in porch, and it was nighttime and I was watching

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two of my uncles fish on the pier, and all

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of a sudden, there was a massive splash right by

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that damn, and they came bolting up. They came bolting

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up those stairs, just like my younger brother. And this

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was probably a year later, all of this really kind

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of taking place in the early to mid nineteen nineties.

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But they came bolting up and I remember them shouting,

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you know.

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What was that? What was that?

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And my other uncle said, I don't know, but it

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was big, And my other uncle then followed that up

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with it was huge, and so, you know, they came.

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I was standing right next, you know, standing right next

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to the door, watching them fish. They came running up,

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barging in, just like my brother and I had done.

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And unfortunately, neither of them seemed to remember what it

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was they had seen. They don't remember the experience at all,

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but that is certainly one of those core memories, you know.

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And so.

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In doing some other research around and having conversations and

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reading stories around Sawyer County, Wisconsin, we've seen examples of

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that where something jumps in the water or is crashing

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through the water, and you know, if it was a bear,

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they would have said, we ran upstairs to get away

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from that bear, because the dam is pretty close, so

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you know, it's probably only forty fifty yards away from

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the end of that pier. And if it was a bear,

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if it was a bear, they would have said.

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It was a bear.

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But they didn't say it was a bear. They had

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no clue what it was, but it was huge. So

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that was the next kind of experience that I remember

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as a child at the cabin. I think the next

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thing that I'll share is we have that property across

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the street that's you know, comes out where the dam

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spills out and it turns in, you know, goes into

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the river, and there are times where it just goes silent.

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It goes silent, it gets very eerie. And I'm very

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close with all of my cousins. We had thirty or

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some cousins grown up where we would get together on

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Memorial on Labor Day weekend and it was a huge

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family event. A lot of my cousins, who are you

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closer in age to myself. You know, they definitely report

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that eerie feeling the woods going silent. One time, I

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was down there by myself and I got that eerie

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feeling the woods went silent, and for whatever reason, my

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eyes kept drawing me up toward the south end of

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you know, it's kind of the hill. There used to

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be some trails that go through there there.

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They're kind of grown over now, but there would be

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you know, we would walk down there, people would you know,

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to get down further down river, and I just remember

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being drawn to this log and looking at it and

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feeling really weird about continuing fishing. Turned my head again

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and the log that I was had been drawn to

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was gone.

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So that is something I've never been able to explain.

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Didn't see anything, didn't see limbs, didn't see you know, eyes,

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I didn't see anything, but I saw a shape that,

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at the time I was probably twelve thirteen years old,

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I thought was a log, and for whatever reason, I

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was feeling creeped out, and I just you know, when

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you have that sixth sense, or you've a lot of

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times it feels like you know when something's watching you,

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that feeling of being watched. That feeling of being watched

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and the overall eerie feeling, the silence in the woods

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kept drawing my eyes to that log. Tried to push

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it off. I look back, the log is gone. And

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that's actually something that I haven't outside of the general

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eerie feeling, haven't really shared with even my brother or

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my cousins.

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Who who we talk about Bigfoot with.

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So that was that to me, started to make things,

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you know, and with all the other things that had

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happened up to that point, started to really kind of

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turn being alone, fishing alone out there, whether we were

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on the pier or fishing down by the river bank,

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I'm not comfortable going, really comfortable.

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Going down there alone anymore. I don't know what it.

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Was, but again, when you're when you don't know anything

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about bigfoot, and then you do, you.

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Just have to wonder.

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So that that was kind of the next thing that

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I experienced growing up. Another at another item, with my

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brother Glenn, there was one time that my dad took

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just the two of us up there in the It

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was it was March or April. As you probably know,

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Jeremiah and the Winters go in northern Wisconsin, can go

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basically up.

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Until you know, early May.

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So we were up there March or April and the

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lake was still frozen over and there was snow on

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the ice, and we were there to do some repairs

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on the cabins before people were coming up for Memorial Day.

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And my brother and I remember looking out from the

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screened and porch down at the lake and we saw.

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Footprints that were coming out from the woods. And when

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I share them.

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The encounter the experience map that I put together, this

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will become a little bit more clear, but it came

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out of the woods to the north and they crossed

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to the east toward the dam, and they did this

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weird circling thing, you know, We're kind of looped around

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a couple of times and then went back out closer

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to the dam. Out the other side to the north,

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there was there were no ice, fishing holes drilled. And

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the thing that my brother Glenn actually reminded as and

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not necessarily discussing things, you know, in light of you know,

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coming on the podcast Wheremiah, but this was these have

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been conversations for you know, several years where we were

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recounting these things. They were they looked like one single

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foot going around, walking around, coming out of the woods.

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It looked like one foot track. And again.

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When you examine the evidence of bigfoot track ways, they

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walk one, you know, one foot and next footfalls directly

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in front of the other. And it did this strange

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looping motion. Came out of the woods. Now there is

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another cabin directly to the north nearby. However, they came

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from the.

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Woods that it didn't come from the from the neighboring property.

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It came from the woods a little bit to the

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west of that.

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And that'll kind of on this map that I'll share,

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I'll have it noted with with where that area was.

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So it circled around, went down toward the dam, circled

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around and went back up more toward the east, right

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by the road that separates that the road that goes

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over the dam.

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And then there you know.

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Of course the roads are plowed and the snowspecks, so

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we didn't notice, you know, we didn't see where the

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foot where the footprints had led to. We were overly

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cautious kids, I would say, and didn't go out out

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and you try to venture out on the ice and

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check them out any further. But just just hearing what

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you hear about Bigfoot and the tracks that they make.

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You know, I just thought that that was a potential

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opportunity there.

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So that was the That was the next encounter with

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my with my brother, and then the next time was

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was several years later. We were up there, my brother

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Glenn and I.

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We were out on the boat fishing on on Callahan Lake,

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kind of went back into where there's a lot of

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bogs and that's really where a lot of the prime

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fishing is.

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We were kind of back in, you know, in between bogs,

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toward the east.

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End of the lake, and we were you know, everything

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was completely normal, and we were we were talking, we

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were having a great time. We were telling jokes, you know,

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we were catching some fish and having a really good time.

465
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.599
And then we were back in this little little cove

466
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:58.960
area and again the woods go silent, and again we

467
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.079
went silent, and we're both staring off in the same direction,

468
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:12.200
and just like what had happened years ago, we simultaneously

469
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:18.480
got freaked out and we just looked at each other

470
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.440
and I said, we need to get out of here,

471
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:23.880
and he.

472
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:24.640
Was like yep.

473
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.720
We started up the motor and we went back. We

474
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.160
got off the lake. We went back in the cabin

475
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.559
and stayed inside for the rest of the night. And

476
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:35.960
that was another thing, you know, just another one of

477
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.319
those strange things, strange experiences that you know, we always

478
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:47.720
kind of questioned growing up. And you know, there was

479
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.000
one more experience that that happened after that.

480
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.559
Big for society. Who would be right back after these messages.

481
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.960
Before you know, there was the next experience that happened

482
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.759
where it was. There was another time my dad had taken.

483
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:19.759
Us up up there.

484
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.240
We were meeting up with a friend of my dad's

485
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.079
and his son and they had taken us out fishing.

486
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.039
We stayed at a.

487
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:32.680
Cabin at a resort on the Chippawa flowage great fishing,

488
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.599
and we were off school.

489
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:38.720
I believe it would have been spring break or.

490
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.480
There was some other reason we you know, it worked

491
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.400
out to go up there and extend our trip. So

492
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.759
we extended our trip. And my brother and I were

493
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.079
a little bit older now probably we're a year apart,

494
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:55.599
so probably fourteen and fifteen years old, and I remember

495
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:58.960
we were in the cabin. There's a nice old stereo

496
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:03.359
there and we were blaring our music and.

497
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.519
I think we were playing cribbage or something like that.

498
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.960
And all of a sudden, we started hearing something outside

499
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.240
the cabin even you know, we.

500
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.559
Could hear it even over the music. You know, we

501
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.720
listened to loud nu metal at the time, right.

502
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:23.079
So something caught our attention over that music, over our

503
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:28.599
game of cribbage, and we turned the music off to

504
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.079
get a better listen.

505
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:34.400
To it, and we heard this. We were hearing this

506
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:41.680
strange sound that it's hard to It almost sounded like

507
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:48.440
the bleeding of a goat, just kind of a mumbly whiny,

508
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:57.079
almost like a cry. I'm going to embarrass myself trying

509
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.440
to replicate it, but it was kind of like a yeah,

510
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:00.680
I mean.

511
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.359
And we had no clue what that was. It didn't

512
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.279
sound like any of the wildlife that was you know

513
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:18.440
that is common up there. And this thing got was

514
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.559
getting closer and closer to the walls of the cabin

515
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.640
and we were getting freaked out, and it was toward

516
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.440
the front of the cabin, and we could hear it

517
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:39.359
moving along the outside wall of the cabin back toward

518
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:48.079
the lake, and we heard scratching all along as it

519
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.039
was going back to the.

520
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.359
Back of our cabin, and it.

521
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:08.880
Was making these weird noises. The entire time, very strange.

522
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:13.119
We were so terrified. Anytime we would go up there,

523
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:13.680
we would.

524
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:18.079
Buy, you know, firecrackers, that's just part of what we

525
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:23.079
do up there. And we don't have guns up there,

526
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.000
and we certainly didn't carry guns when we went up there,

527
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.319
never owned guns ourselves at the time.

528
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.960
But we were so scared. We were trying to scare

529
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:41.599
this thing away. So I opened up the window in

530
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:43.559
the kitchen of the cabin.

531
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.079
And I cut a hole.

532
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.319
I cut a hole in the screen, lit a fire,

533
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:54.119
you know those black cats that are multiple shots, lit

534
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.000
one of those off, chucked it toward the toward the

535
00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:59.200
front corner.

536
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:05.039
Of the cabin. They go off, and this thing runs

537
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:09.599
away and again.

538
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.000
It was just one of those experiences where we're so

539
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:16.000
terrified by what's going on, not knowing what it was,

540
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:22.480
the strange vocalization, and we had no clue.

541
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.679
It was freaking us out. My dad was out with

542
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:29.000
his friend at the time, so we were there alone,

543
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:29.960
and when he.

544
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.880
Came back, he was so many He was so mad

545
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.599
at us for cutting a hole in the screen. You know,

546
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.880
because especially in the summertime, there's mosquitoes, there's bugs and

547
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.480
everything else. Squirrels, could get in, you know, all that

548
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:47.239
fun stuff. And he said, if you ever hear or

549
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.840
see anything outside the outside the cabin, all you need

550
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.519
to do is flip on the front light and they'll

551
00:34:54.559 --> 00:35:02.000
that will spook them away. So that was another experience

552
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.400
that we really, you know, we we can't explain it.

553
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.800
And especially back then, you know, all these things are

554
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.800
starting to build up, and you know, we never knew

555
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:23.079
what it was. But my brother Glenn is he hunts.

556
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.079
My cousins are also avid hunters. They hunt up there

557
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.119
or would for years.

558
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:36.360
And we know enough about.

559
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:42.760
Bears, you know, skunks, raccoons, things like that. This wasn't

560
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:46.440
any of that, we both agree, and so but we

561
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:47.480
didn't know what it was.

562
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:49.280
That really kind of.

563
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:57.239
Were the earlier childhood experiences. And you know, growing up,

564
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.039
we would watch things like, yeah, a lot of the

565
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.880
listeners always go back to Leonard Nimoy in search of

566
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:11.239
For us, it was unsolved mysteries and sightings, right, and

567
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.440
so that's really where you know, we would see Bigfoot.

568
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.960
You know, a lot a lot of you know, rehashing

569
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.079
of the Patterson Gimlin film and and hearing things about that.

570
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.519
We never connected any of these strange things that we

571
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:33.920
had experienced growing up to possible Bigfoot activity. And so

572
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:38.079
years had passed where you know, late high school, early

573
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.760
on into my college years bigfoot and shortly thereafter, in

574
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:47.880
the years following even graduating from college, Bigfoot started to

575
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.039
become a little bit more of a cultural phenomenon. You know,

576
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:56.239
finding Bigfoot was was I think maybe just starting and

577
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.760
messing with sasquatch. You know, we loved the messing with

578
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:06.039
squatch commercials. And jack Lynx is actually headquartered in manag Wisconsin,

579
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:11.400
which is in Washburn County, the county immediately to the

580
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.000
west of Sawyer County.

581
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:18.239
So you know, we're growing up. We like having a

582
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:19.840
good time when we go up to the cabin.

583
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.039
I in particular had really gotten into big full bigfoot

584
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.159
as a cultural phenomenon.

585
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:31.119
And you know, so there was a time we went

586
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.480
up there for my older brother was it was his

587
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.639
his you know, very conservative bachelor party, and he had

588
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:44.880
brought a couple of friends.

589
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.920
My younger brother had caught up brought a couple of friends,

590
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.440
and and I went up there, and you know, we're

591
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.199
up there, we're sitting around the campfire. This was even

592
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.119
during the day, you know, just the sun hadn't even

593
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.719
started to go down, but you know, we start talking

594
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:06.039
about Bigfoot and I did a whoop.

595
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.679
And that got a big laugh out of everyone.

596
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.360
And one of my brother's friends started talking and I

597
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:21.199
would say six or seven seconds at least about ten

598
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:29.840
seconds had passed and from the north east across the

599
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:34.679
road there's there's a there's a swampy area.

600
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:43.800
We got a return whoop and everyone went silent, and

601
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.360
I was like, did that just happen? And everyone was

602
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:49.079
kind of incredulous about.

603
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.119
It, but we all got kind of quiet, and you know,

604
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.920
we decided to go inside and figure out how what

605
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.039
we were going to do for the rest of the evening,

606
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.800
you know, go out on town and and leave.

607
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:06.119
It at leave it, leave the area the next day.

608
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:08.960
So they had gotten up there a day or two

609
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.360
before I had gotten up there for my brother's bachelor party.

610
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.920
And the next day.

611
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.119
My younger brother, Glenn, asked my older brother, did you

612
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:29.239
did you tell Andy what happened the night before? And

613
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:33.079
he said no, and they started kind of laughing, like

614
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:41.000
a nervous laughter, and my older brother goes, what was that?

615
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:46.159
That was all they could say. So I asked, well,

616
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.440
what did you what happened. So if they had brought

617
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.159
a boat up, they were out boating on the lake

618
00:39:53.599 --> 00:40:00.360
and they saw a tubular light starting to follow them

619
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:06.920
as they were just casually boating along the lake, and

620
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.440
they had no idea what it was. I think they

621
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.840
described it as maybe two to three feet long, tubular,

622
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:22.280
ovular shaped and it was essentially following along the boat.

623
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.480
And the strangest thing about it was they said it

624
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:35.440
didn't fly off, it didn't just disappear. It submarined underwater

625
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:43.760
into the lake. And it wasn't until I was actually

626
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:48.559
watching Missing four to one one the hunted, and they

627
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:52.519
have Ron Moorehead, you know, they do a reenactment of

628
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.559
the orbs that Ron Moorehead had seen up there, and

629
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.400
there was a scene I free doubt.

630
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:03.960
I was like, this is what they saw? And so

631
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.719
I took a video of it on my phone, you know,

632
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.639
rewelmd it, took a video of it on my phone,

633
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.119
sent it to my brother Glenn, and I said, is

634
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.199
this what you guys saw? And he said, that is

635
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:19.800
exactly what we saw.

636
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:30.559
So moving forward, you know, Bigfoot was certainly a topic

637
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.960
of conversation after that, if nothing else, because we knew

638
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.159
more about bigfoot behavior, not nearly as much as I

639
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:41.719
do today, but had really started to I started to

640
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:46.679
get more and more into it. Yeah, we would make

641
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.320
a joke out of it when our family would get together.

642
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.840
I would, you know, may get some laughs out of

643
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.519
people doing Howl's tree knocks. And there was one time

644
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.719
where it was kind of a strange transition where we

645
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.679
were talking about big Foot inside the cabin. My grandma

646
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.679
was there, a lot of our cousins, we were all adult,

647
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:08.199
you know, adults at the time.

648
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.079
We're talking about it, just kind of goofing around talking

649
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:15.000
about bigfoot and which of course leads to beliefs about

650
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.920
big what is bigfoot things of that nature, and my

651
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:20.280
grandma shared a story.

652
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.599
My grandma kind of interrupted the conversation, but it kind

653
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.280
of seemed to be a transition where she started talking

654
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.079
about how her father, who had built the cabin, built

655
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:38.039
the resort, had a friendship with the Laocouterae chief John Frog,

656
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:44.199
and she got into some stories there, and it just

657
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.840
seemed interesting how she brought it up in the middle

658
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:55.119
of a conversation about Bigfoot. So that kind of led

659
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.760
me on a different path. I love that area up there,

660
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.880
That place is Sawyer County, Wisconsin is absolutely beautiful going

661
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.239
up to our cabin while you know, you get that

662
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.800
eerie feeling when you're alone and things like that, anyone

663
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:11.480
rarely was.

664
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:16.920
But I.

665
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:24.039
I started to get into kind of the Native American

666
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.440
history of Sasquatch, trying to find out more about what

667
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:33.920
the Lacuterrey believed and taught, what their culture was, what

668
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.320
their oral history was about Bigfoot, and really really started,

669
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.960
you know, just getting into it on a personal interest level.

670
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.000
I never really I tried to do deep dives, but

671
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.559
you know, there's not a whole lot you can do

672
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.639
when you live five hundred miles away and you're trying

673
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:52.880
to do research on a local band of Native Americans

674
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:53.960
and their beliefs.

675
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.519
You know, there's what you can find on the internet.

676
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.159
So I try, you know, I had tried to get

677
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.760
into the history that the indigenous history of the land

678
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.360
and started getting into it a little bit more seriously

679
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:16.760
and kind of how Native American culture, how their beliefs

680
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:21.400
in Bigfoot, and and all of that became part of it, right,

681
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.519
like became part of my interest in Bigfoot. That was

682
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:26.519
kind of an angle that I was really interested.

683
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:30.119
In, you know, in around twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,

684
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:37.280
I subscribed to another bigfoot podcast, popular Bigfoot Podcast, and.

685
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:44.639
Was, you know, starting to hear stories from Native Americans

686
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:48.639
about their beliefs and the things that happened.

687
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:52.239
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

688
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.079
You know, not only you know, around the country, but

689
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.639
I was really looking for you know, Wisconsin, and ended

690
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:24.239
up hearing actually encounters from here in Nebraska. And I

691
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.199
never believed that there was Bigfoot in Nebraska.

692
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:28.880
It just doesn't.

693
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.679
The one gripe about the difference between you know, the

694
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.039
landscape of Nebraska and the north Woods of Wisconsin is

695
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.559
there's not a whole lot of forests nearby, at least

696
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:46.519
certainly not nearly as expansive as in Wisconsin. All of

697
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.079
our the majority of our lates, probably ninety percent of them,

698
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:55.320
are man made reservoirs, And so I just never really

699
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:04.079
thought that Nebraska could be a prime location for Bigfoot.

700
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:08.559
But there was one episode that I heard featuring Barry

701
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.559
Webster and his brother Derek Webster from resquatching research on

702
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:14.519
the Omaha.

703
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.719
Reservation, about an hour north of.

704
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:23.360
Omaha, and so you know, I'm I'm more much more

705
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:28.239
seriously into Bigfoot. I've attributed, you know, all of these

706
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.760
strange encounters that I've shared up to this point as

707
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:38.840
at the very least potential Bigfoot activity. There's an element

708
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:44.719
to in doing the research on and hearing encounters from

709
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:48.400
from Native Americans and First Nations people in Canada and

710
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:49.800
of course.

711
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:54.000
All around the world. But there is a level of.

712
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:01.719
Spirituality that's involved, you know, what is commonly dismissed as

713
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:02.599
the WU factor.

714
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:07.559
And I was getting getting to a point in.

715
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.239
My life where, you know, I needed to take a

716
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:17.320
break sort some things out, and so I had heard

717
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.519
about an encounter in Wisconsin in the forums of this

718
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:26.519
Bigfoot podcast from another area in Sawyer County, Wisconsin that

719
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.480
I was actually familiar with. I'm not going to name

720
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.599
the property, but what I will share with the audience

721
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:35.960
is that it is the I'll just say it's the

722
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:42.519
BFRO report from Sawyer County, Wisconsin in September of twenty

723
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.440
twenty two. That's when it was reported. I believe the

724
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:51.400
encounter happened in May of twenty twenty two, and it

725
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.920
was reported in September. So I needed to take a

726
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.760
break from work. I needed to, you know, just decompress,

727
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.559
and I wanted to take a trip by myself. Well,

728
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.960
as it turns out, I had to take my dog.

729
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.280
We have a four year old Siberian Husky, and so

730
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.360
my wife didn't want to deal with him and his

731
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:15.360
ball of energy and his neediness while I was gone,

732
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:18.719
so I had to take the dog with me.

733
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.079
So I wanted to go up there, and because of

734
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.880
what I had read about this encounter.

735
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:30.960
I stayed at the location where this encounter took place,

736
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.679
a Class B experience Class B report. Had my dog

737
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.639
with me, so it didn't necessarily get out in the

738
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.079
woods as much as I would like, but I did

739
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:45.000
get out and there were some strange things and some

740
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.320
some environments that are so closely.

741
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.239
Associated with bigfoot activity.

742
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.199
The first thing I noticed when I arrived at this

743
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:01.159
property was there is a very large power line clearing

744
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.920
that basically cuts across the drive down to the cabins.

745
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:11.400
This is a resort that is on a lake, and

746
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:15.000
so that's the first thing that I notice, so snapped

747
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.760
a picture of that. Got there, got settled in, they

748
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:25.039
I went and had dinner on site, and you know,

749
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.719
I had met the owners of the property and very

750
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.880
nice people, and they I waited until everyone had cleared out,

751
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.400
and I said, I'd like to share with you why

752
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:37.920
I'm here.

753
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:39.920
And she was like, oh, yeah, why is that?

754
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.199
You know, having conversations with all the locals you know

755
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.599
about you know, my life story and growing up there,

756
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.480
didn't get into any of the big bigfoot stuff with

757
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.800
strangers from up there. But after most of the people

758
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.960
had left, I said, you know, I am interested in

759
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:56.920
telling you why I'm here.

760
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.679
And I and she said, oh why is that? And

761
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:03.480
I that, well, are you aware that this property is

762
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:10.639
the last reported bigfoot encounter in Sawyer County?

763
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.559
And she kind of slaps her hand down on the table.

764
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.639
She goes, I did not know that. You should tell

765
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.119
my husband. He's really into he's really into bigfoot too.

766
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.960
And just the other day he was talking with a

767
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:26.920
friend who owns.

768
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:28.119
A a.

769
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:34.079
I believe the friend owned a local tavern and they

770
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:40.639
were on another lake and people came and reported that

771
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.079
they were out fishing on the lake and had boulders

772
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:50.079
thrown at them from the woodline. I say, yeah, you know,

773
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:54.480
that's that's you know, if you if you believe that

774
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.960
and if you're if you know about these things, you

775
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.960
know that that is something that happens, and it happens

776
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.960
a lot, specifically with people who are fishing out on

777
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:05.400
the water.

778
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.840
So I was staying there, I believe, for you know,

779
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.760
four or five days. I went out. I went all

780
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.400
around that lake.

781
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:18.519
And the surrounding lakes and this is really this is

782
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:23.280
this is backcountry, right there are some resorts.

783
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.239
This was June and one of the things that I

784
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.280
found kind of surprising was there weren't a whole lot

785
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:29.920
of people there.

786
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.960
I didn't see anyone out on the lake while I

787
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.519
was there, on boats or anything like that. I went

788
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:41.400
to other lakes in the area. I you know, I

789
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:42.800
didn't see anything.

790
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.760
There are some cabins.

791
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.519
I was up there for four or five days, and

792
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:56.360
there was only one time I saw someone just kind

793
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.400
of out and about on the drive. Passed a couple

794
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.760
of trucks, you know, driving away or driving past me

795
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:03.320
on the road.

796
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:05.880
And the only other the only other.

797
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.880
Person that I saw up there at the time was

798
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.320
an elderly woman who was taking a walk.

799
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:12.840
That was it.

800
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:18.800
So the reason I bring that up is because I

801
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:23.159
found two things that I find extremely interesting that I

802
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.679
took photos of. And actually I had reached out to

803
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:31.480
the to the person who had submitted that BFRORO report.

804
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:34.480
We had had some conversations and showed him some of

805
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.079
these photos, and you know, he he, he was certainly

806
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:42.880
of the mindset that this was potential Bigfoot evidence or sign.

807
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:46.559
And I have these photos and i'll and again i'll

808
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:48.599
share them with with the members on Patreon.

809
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:53.039
But there is I was driving, I had I was driving,

810
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:56.599
I parked along the road in an area that kind

811
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:59.400
of had a It was near a clearing that kind

812
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.239
of went back to the swamp area. A lot of

813
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.039
pictures I took were from going back into these swampy

814
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.960
areas and looking for footprints and things like that. And

815
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:17.880
I came across there's a huge boulder and it's just

816
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:19.960
off to the you know, it's just kind of sitting

817
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:24.519
there in the middle of the woods, and there is

818
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.519
a trail that in the in the photo goes it's

819
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:35.119
to the right of this huge boulder and on top

820
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.880
of this boulder. I mean, this boulder is probably four

821
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:45.360
or five feet tall. And it was really what really

822
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.920
interested me about what dra drew my attention to it

823
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.679
in the first place, was there's not like mountains. You know,

824
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.480
you when you hear about big boulders like that. You're thinking,

825
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.599
you know, mountainous terrain or things like that, but.

826
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:01.519
There's just this huge, out of place boulder. Well, sitting

827
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.840
on top of this boulder was a football shaped rock

828
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:11.280
that was probably slightly bigger than a football, and that

829
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:13.519
was really strange.

830
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:18.880
And you know, you hear about sasquatch stacking rocks, but I,

831
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.760
you know, there's also this trail right here, and I'm thinking, well,

832
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.199
that would be potentially a prime spot next to a

833
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:32.079
game trail for you know, the bigfoot to hide behind

834
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.400
this rock and use this smaller rock that's sitting on

835
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:37.960
top of this.

836
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:43.519
Boulder to potentially hunt for deer and other wildlife that's there.

837
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.159
And the weird thing.

838
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:48.480
About this rock is it was very clearly picked up

839
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.679
and moved and put there intentionally. The bottom half of

840
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:53.679
it was.

841
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:58.559
Wet and kind of muddy, and I thought that that

842
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:02.039
was so out of place next to this game trail

843
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:03.079
on top of this.

844
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:09.480
Random boulder in the middle of woodlands. I just found

845
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:10.920
it very intriguing.

846
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.719
Took a photo of it, which which I will share.

847
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.760
And then the next item that I saw was I

848
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.760
went I was traveling a little bit further down a lot.

849
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.679
A lot of the.

850
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.800
Areas I went to kind of encircled an area around

851
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.880
this lake and some of the smaller surrounding lakes where.

852
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:36.280
This the BFRO encounter took place. And I'm hearing these

853
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:40.559
other stories right in that area. So I'm I'm going

854
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:43.599
all over the place trying to find the general areas

855
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:48.360
where these stories are being told. And I got a

856
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:49.360
little bit further down.

857
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.159
It was kind of along a stretch where there were

858
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.760
no you know, no houses, no nothing, And there again was.

859
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.719
Another out of place boulder, this one directly on the

860
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:05.320
side of the road and about eight feet up.

861
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.760
So this bowlder was right next to a tree, and

862
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:11.719
about eight feet up there was a branch.

863
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:18.119
That had very clearly been broken. So I get out,

864
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:20.239
I take a look. You know, it looked like, you.

865
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.239
Know, I'm thinking it's a snap, right, I'm thinking, oh,

866
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:27.440
maybe a bigfoot snap this branch. So I'm walking around,

867
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.239
I'm looking for signs of damage to other you know,

868
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:36.000
branches could have been you know, a larger fallen limb

869
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:39.000
had hit it, broke it snapped it. But it wasn't

870
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:43.039
just it was and people can see and judge for themselves,

871
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.559
but it certainly looks to me like it was twisted

872
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:53.320
and snapped and not just snapped. There's no rough edges.

873
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:57.320
It certainly appears to be a twist from other photos

874
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:58.679
I've seen of you.

875
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:03.880
Know, suspected. Yes, so I took a photo of that.

876
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.719
I'll share some other photos of, you know, the general

877
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:12.760
landscape of the earth, very swampy, very marshy, some prairies.

878
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:15.199
It's it's beautiful up there, and I, you know, it's

879
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.719
it's it's part of part of what draws me back

880
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:21.119
and part of why I went up there to, you know,

881
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.239
to see if I could find some evidence of bigfoot

882
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:30.360
from this BFRO report. Something strange happened the second to

883
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:36.480
last night I was there. My dog was potty train.

884
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.760
My dog's potty trained. He hasn't ever since we had him.

885
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:42.280
We got him. He's he was a pandemic puppy.

886
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.400
Ever since we got him, he's never had a single

887
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.440
incident in the house unless he was extremely sick. He

888
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.519
doesn't even go number two on our walks. He waits

889
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.000
until I let him out in our backyard. Very strange,

890
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:01.280
but that's his m that's his behavior. Never just goes

891
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:02.400
to the bathroom.

892
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:06.320
In the house the second to last night I was

893
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:06.880
up there.

894
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.800
And the other thing I'll say is, and my wife

895
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:11.840
will certainly attest to this.

896
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:13.760
When he wants to go out, he will let you know.

897
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:20.159
It doesn't matter if it's nine am or two am,

898
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:21.039
he will let you know.

899
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.280
Well, I woke up in the middle of the night

900
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:30.360
to the cabin I was staying in had all laminate floors,

901
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.599
maybe some tile. I woke up to him. He was

902
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.599
sleeping out on the couch in the living room area

903
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:41.880
of this cabin. And I woke up to him jumping

904
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.000
off of that couch which was along the wall, the

905
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:47.800
outside wall of this cabin.

906
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:51.440
I don't know what led up to it. I heard

907
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:52.760
him jump off the couch.

908
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:57.320
He was his nails and were just slipping and sliding

909
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:02.519
on this wood floor. And he runs into the bedroom

910
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.119
that I was sleeping in and just.

911
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.840
Proceeds to just pee all over the place.

912
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.199
And you know, I'm living Why didn't you wake me up?

913
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.199
I would have let you out. You know.

914
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:23.599
I'm cleaning it up, and I am trying to He's

915
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:28.840
hovering near me and I'm trying to get this cleaned up.

916
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.360
He's hovering near me. I'm trying to like, I take,

917
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:33.920
I would I would take. I took a break or

918
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.840
two from cleaning up the mess walked him to the door, tried.

919
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.559
To get him to go outside.

920
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.960
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?

921
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:02.079
He was pulling back. He didn't not want to go outside.

922
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:07.480
And then I realized that he was shaking, and I'm mad.

923
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.400
You know, he's never done this before. We're staying in

924
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:14.119
a rental cabin. You know, I'm just looking on the

925
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.400
walls to see if he had gotten on the walls

926
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.639
or any of the furniture. And it was just the

927
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:23.440
strangest thing. He was spooked by something so bad he couldn't.

928
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:27.880
Control himself and didn't even attempt to wake me up

929
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.119
because he did not want to go outside.

930
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:36.519
And he's seen wildlife. Will go on drives and especially

931
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:38.679
you know, during this trip, he would go on drives

932
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:41.840
and we would see deer and he would just look

933
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:42.280
at the deer.

934
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:43.400
He would get real interested.

935
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.400
And we saw at the time there were there were

936
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.239
turtles that were laying their eggs. They were calling up

937
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.079
out of the out of the water and laying their eggs.

938
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:52.119
He was real interested in that.

939
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.159
He doesn't get spooked by things.

940
01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:01.880
So something spooked him at this location where you know

941
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:06.000
there's bigfoot activity. I'm finding potential bigfoot sign in the

942
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:14.159
immediate vicinity and again nothing conclusive, very strange, and he

943
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:14.880
did not want.

944
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.880
To go outside. He was freaked out.

945
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.039
And you know, again do I know, no, But if you,

946
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.400
if you, if you pay attention to the stories that

947
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:30.400
people tell about dogs and bigfoot in particular, like we

948
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.199
were kind of talking about before, you know, they don't

949
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:37.840
necessarily get along, and dogs will hide under porches, they'll

950
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:40.679
they'll shake, they'll try it, they'll crawl.

951
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:43.400
Between your legs. And my dog was doing exactly that.

952
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:45.440
He had never done it before, he has never done

953
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.159
it since, and just.

954
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:50.679
Had to put it in the back of my mind,

955
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.960
you know, really take it out of the back of

956
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:56.440
my mind and can't help but wonder if if that

957
01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:03.039
was part of it. So that was that encounter I

958
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.480
came back from that trip. That was when I had

959
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:11.519
joined the Bigfoot Society, and that was about then shortly

960
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.480
I believe it was in you know, June or July

961
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.000
of twenty twenty three that we spoke first Jeremiah on

962
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.039
that on that on that chat, the member chat and

963
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:25.559
about a month later again and I'm I'm I'm after

964
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.960
all this. You know, I'm sharing these pictures with people,

965
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.159
and I'm I'm I'm telling them, like, compare this photo

966
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.039
to this, you know photo that someone posted about apparent

967
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.000
bigfoot evidence or whatever, and you.

968
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.119
Know, it's I think it's pretty convincing. So I'm in

969
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:43.559
full fledged bigfoot mode.

970
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.000
And I get back to you know, I'm thinking about

971
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:49.800
the area. I'm thinking about Sawyer County, Wisconsin. I'm thinking

972
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.119
about its history. I'm thinking about my family's history, and

973
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:57.519
I'm thinking about the Native American experiences there. And I

974
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:02.360
try reaching out to locals Sawyer County experts, if you will,

975
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:07.559
and and tried reaching out to the LCO lacouterae and

976
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.599
tried reaching out to that community.

977
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:12.400
Never got a response from anyone, And.

978
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.559
I'm thinking, man, if you know, I remember hearing about

979
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.760
this resquatch and research from that episode of the other

980
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:23.519
podcast and Barry Webster, and so I reached out to

981
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:32.320
Barry Webster and he's He's a very intense but wonderfully

982
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:37.400
spiritual person. And where I was at with my head there,

983
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.559
you know, I had just gotten back from this trip

984
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:44.280
to clear my mind you know, destress and all this

985
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.800
all this other stuff and and really start thinking about

986
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.760
spiritual things for myself and where I'm at in life.

987
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.159
And it was a stressful time in my life.

988
01:03:54.199 --> 01:04:00.000
And you know, I shared with Barry my interesting sasqua.

989
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:05.159
I shared with Barry my you know, the quote unquote

990
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:07.679
spiritual journey that I was trying to really get on

991
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:13.760
track and in my general interest in in Native American culture.

992
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.360
So Barry was very welcoming of me.

993
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.480
I Barry, if you ever hear this, thank you so

994
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:25.960
much for even just having the conversations, because it's very

995
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:32.880
it's very hard to get someone who's very busy with

996
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:43.320
with the activity and the advocacy surrounding their community, their

997
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:44.360
their you know.

998
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.719
The reservation and and things that are going on in

999
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.360
the reservation. Barry is very involved there and I think

1000
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:58.079
so highly of him. So in our conversations, Barry ended

1001
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:02.079
up inviting me to a campfire storytelling event that they

1002
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:06.880
were having on the reservation. And so I went there

1003
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:12.639
and we're listening to Barry tell his stories and and

1004
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:13.280
you know.

1005
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.519
It's it's there there.

1006
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:21.480
If you are not familiar with the Missouri River, the

1007
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:27.519
stretch of the Missouri river from really you know, south

1008
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.639
southern South Dakota all the way down into Missouri.

1009
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.960
It's there. There are bluffs and there's lowest hills which were.

1010
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:41.239
You know, essentially you know, they're they're not mountains, but

1011
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.880
they're they're they're pretty big bluffs and they were formed

1012
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:47.679
by ancient winds blowing the sediment and silt, you know,

1013
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:51.280
back and forth across the landscape there. The river there,

1014
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:56.320
and there's apparently some cave structures all along the area.

1015
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.880
It is much more heavily wooded than even if you

1016
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.760
go only a few miles to the east or to

1017
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:07.480
the west. And so, you know, we are at this

1018
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:10.039
campfire event right along the river.

1019
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:12.280
And it was weird.

1020
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.800
It was you know, Barry's telling his experience and he's

1021
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:21.360
teaching people, you know, his people's beliefs and the stories

1022
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.079
that they have here. I'm not going to you know,

1023
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.800
I put together an experience map of near my Sarah

1024
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:33.000
County out of respect for for Barry and the tribal

1025
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:33.800
traditions there.

1026
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:39.000
I'm not going to do that for the Omaha Reservation

1027
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:42.719
area that we were in, or speak too much more

1028
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:44.559
about some of the other things.

1029
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:49.320
Out of confidence and assurances to Bury. But we're right

1030
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:54.639
along the river and Barry's telling his stories and to

1031
01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:00.599
the west, towards a set of bluffs, wooded bluffs, we

1032
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:05.559
heard what I have heard numerous times to be a

1033
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:06.440
bigfoot howl.

1034
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:12.000
And this was that night. The event didn't start until

1035
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:12.519
nine pm.

1036
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.760
This was probably closer to ten thirty eleven o'clock when

1037
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.880
we hear this howl. We hear this howl off to

1038
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.039
the west in the wooded bluffs during a like a

1039
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:30.360
break in Berry's storytelling, and obviously it caught everyone's attention,

1040
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:37.440
and you know, Barry said, there, you know, there he is.

1041
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.719
So that was my first time I heard a whoop.

1042
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:45.559
Now I clear as day whoop, you know, all those

1043
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.000
years ago, and now I'm hearing.

1044
01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:52.719
My first howl. And immediately after the howl across the

1045
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:59.360
river into Iowa, there's a wildlife management area nearby. The

1046
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:04.920
coyotes just start going off like crazy, and it's just

1047
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:09.000
it's like the typical, like you you almost don't want

1048
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.360
to believe it, because it's like this, this is what

1049
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.519
everyone you know, These are things that everyone says happens

1050
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:21.159
in bigfoot encounters where there's at least coyotes nearby, you know,

1051
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:25.039
in the environment, in the wildlife areas there. So that

1052
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:30.880
was really cool. So after the event, I was helping

1053
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:33.239
clean up, and.

1054
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:37.640
Again I'm so appreciative of Barry and again I respect

1055
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:42.960
him so much. He invited me to go out with

1056
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:48.520
him and another member of Resquatching research into the woods

1057
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:50.239
along the roads.

1058
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:56.079
To the hotspots. And I, you know, it's eleven o'clock

1059
01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:58.439
at night. I live an hour away.

1060
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.479
I text my wife like, hey, I'm not going to

1061
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:05.920
be home for a while because Barry wanted to take

1062
01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:10.279
me out and try to get me an experience, and

1063
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:11.800
you know, wife was cool with it.

1064
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:16.960
I So I go out with Barry and we stop

1065
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.119
at a few a few hotspots, not a whole lot

1066
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:22.960
of activity. They're telling me what to look for there

1067
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.880
if Barry.

1068
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:32.560
Barry's approach is a spiritual one and also a traditional

1069
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:38.159
Omaha nation approach. He combines the two with his faith

1070
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:43.199
and with with and their culture. So you know, Barry's

1071
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.960
telling me, you know, what to look for. He's out there,

1072
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:50.319
he is speaking in his native language. And because they

1073
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.399
do believe, and he shared this, this is this isn't

1074
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:55.600
like a secret. And he believes, and you hear it

1075
01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.800
from other indigenous peoples, but he believes that they I

1076
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.880
can understand that they've grown up around the people in

1077
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:04.439
the area.

1078
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:06.640
And I won't tell any.

1079
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:09.920
Of those stories because they're not necessarily mine to tell.

1080
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.000
And I've already probably given a lot of secondhand and

1081
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:18.479
hypothetical potential bigfoot encounters here. But the last spot we

1082
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:21.119
went to, you know, the first the first few spots

1083
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:25.600
we went to, nothing nothing. The last spot we went

1084
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:30.960
to was very interesting. The one thing that Barry has shared,

1085
01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:35.279
and this is in the documentary see which Jeremiah we've

1086
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:35.840
talked about.

1087
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:37.119
You had RPG.

1088
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.159
On one episode and he was, you know, getting into it.

1089
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:44.399
And what was really what I did not know at

1090
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:49.279
any point before really was RPG on when I when

1091
01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:54.960
he's talking about his experience there filming the Sea Tanga documentary,

1092
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:59.640
was he mentioned like a disco in the woods, how

1093
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:03.520
it would light up. And one of the things that Barry.

1094
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:10.079
Has said of a specific bigfoot that is referred to

1095
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:14.920
in the This Setana documentary as Stevie Wonder. If you

1096
01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:19.119
want to know why they call him Stevie Wonder, go.

1097
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:24.239
On Facebook, check out res Squatching Research watch the Satana documentary.

1098
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:26.119
It's it's you get to.

1099
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.399
See Barry reenact why they call this sasquatch Stevie Wonder,

1100
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.600
And you can maybe put two and two together if

1101
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.439
you're old enough to know who Stevie Wonder is and

1102
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:38.720
appreciate his music. Anyway, one of the things Barry said

1103
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:43.479
about this Stevie Wonder is that he would have these

1104
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:50.640
blue lights that looked like led Christmas lights blue led

1105
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:53.079
is you know, you know those little one inch thin

1106
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.840
led Christmas lights. He had him in his fur, in

1107
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:03.359
his hair, and that's like, that's really weird, right, Like

1108
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:07.760
you don't think that that's it's like, oh, that's interesting, right.

1109
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.920
You kind of scratch your head thinking why a sasquatch

1110
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:17.319
would have lights in his hair that like that and that.

1111
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:20.359
But then you hear RPG talking about how the whole

1112
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:24.039
woods lit up like this. So maybe you know, as

1113
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:28.159
as these creatures are walking through the woods, the lights

1114
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:29.119
are attaching to them.

1115
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:29.800
I don't know.

1116
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:35.520
But we get to the last spot and we get

1117
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.039
out of the truck and it's pitch black.

1118
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:39.000
It is.

1119
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.920
There is no light pollution. You can't see a thing.

1120
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:49.560
We took a one not technological approach. I had brought

1121
01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.600
a headlamp. I opted not to use it.

1122
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:58.039
I did not take my cell phone out of the car.

1123
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:00.319
I wanted to be very respectful of the.

1124
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:05.119
Process that Verry has and that the research group has.

1125
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:08.720
So we get out of the truck. It's pitch black.

1126
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:11.880
I can't see where any I can't see where anyone

1127
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.239
is other than I know. The three of us are

1128
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:18.640
standing directly in front of the truck, and we.

1129
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:29.800
Within a minute hear a very sharp whistle. And again,

1130
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:37.399
when you hear whistles that are reported in other people's

1131
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:42.159
accounts of bigfoot activity, this was that whistle. It was

1132
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:47.760
very loud, very shrill, and it was but it was

1133
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:51.159
just a single whistle. So we kind of that kind

1134
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:52.680
of perked us up.

1135
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:53.079
It is.

1136
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:56.840
I wouldn't even say it was quiet. We could hear.

1137
01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:59.920
We could hear, you know, crickets and things like that.

1138
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:05.920
It didn't get that eerie dead silent. But we started,

1139
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:08.920
you know, we're standing there in the in the dark

1140
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:14.960
and in the silence, and we start hearing absolutely positively

1141
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:22.760
heavy bipedal footsteps to both our left, to the left

1142
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:26.399
of us and to the right of us, and directly

1143
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:30.319
in front of us. There's like a small clearing, and

1144
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:34.000
probably twenty to thirty yards.

1145
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:40.239
Of a slight clearing. We're not hearing anything in front

1146
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:46.840
of us. We're hearing these heavy footsteps to the left

1147
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:55.479
and to the right. And this is great. This is

1148
01:14:55.479 --> 01:15:02.359
gonna sound crazy, I know. All of a sudden, these small.

1149
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:11.680
Blue lights start going off around us, all around us,

1150
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:17.880
both sides, both sides, right about where we in the

1151
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:22.239
direct area, probably twenty to thirty yards off to both sides.

1152
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:30.039
And they were not fireflies. We were seeing fireflies out

1153
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:31.159
during the campfire.

1154
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.680
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

1155
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:59.000
Fireflies have a greenish yellowish whitish glow. These things were blue,

1156
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.640
and they they were not blinking.

1157
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.640
They did not go off and go on. They appeared

1158
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:16.359
to shift collectively shift from you know, our three o'clock

1159
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:18.920
May three to four o'clock.

1160
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:22.920
Is where I noticed them starting to light up, two

1161
01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:27.000
our three and four o'clock, and to our eight and

1162
01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:34.560
nine o'clock. And they started moving forward in an organized manner,

1163
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:44.680
blue small blue lights moving in a coordinated way.

1164
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:51.840
Around us out to the front of us. And then

1165
01:16:51.880 --> 01:17:02.119
they just kind of dissipated. And I will tell you

1166
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:08.520
you know, when you're talking spirituality and you're talking about

1167
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:12.520
weird things. When you're talking about light rods and you're

1168
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:17.840
talking about orbs, and you're talking about the Wu. Well,

1169
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:18.960
that's part.

1170
01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:26.520
Of the experience that indigenous peoples have been having for

1171
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:33.000
five hundred years before we came here. They've they've told

1172
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:36.159
us their experience. They've told us that these things happen.

1173
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:42.960
I witnessed it for myself. Others have witnessed it for

1174
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:48.359
themselves because they were welcome to take part in an

1175
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:54.680
effort to witness these creatures and this activity that surround them.

1176
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:58.039
So is it woo woo? Yes?

1177
01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:04.000
But I I think that anyone in this conversation, this

1178
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:07.279
is not a new conversation, But I definitely believe you

1179
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:11.199
have to believe people at this point. No one's putting

1180
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:17.520
themselves out there telling crazy stories that for no reason

1181
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:20.960
and these things all line up. At what point is

1182
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:31.239
the general Bigfoot enthusiast, the scientific researchers, at what point

1183
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:39.239
will there be an effort to understand instead of dismiss

1184
01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:45.399
It's something that I think has to happen in order

1185
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:51.640
to move this the study of this subject forward. People

1186
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.439
who believe the WU are also interested in the science.

1187
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.000
I really wish that there was a collaborative.

1188
01:18:58.399 --> 01:18:59.479
Effort to do both.

1189
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:03.920
And the only ones that I'm aware of that are

1190
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:09.800
really doing that, who who embrace both both sides, if

1191
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:15.039
you will, a comprehensive aspect of Bigfoot, are.

1192
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:20.159
The indigenous peoples and the Native Americans, And so.

1193
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:29.119
I wanted to share that I had that experience, and

1194
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:37.079
I believe in this shared experience of these indigenal as

1195
01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:40.600
we get closer to disclosures of other types that are

1196
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.680
like in the news every day and all the craziness

1197
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:48.439
that's happening in the world around us uap Nhi, where

1198
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:52.319
disclosure really seems like it's knocking on the door. I

1199
01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:58.239
do think that Bigfoot is next, and from there.

1200
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:02.600
Maybe dog Man and the van meter Visitor and all

1201
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:05.960
of the other crazy things that people have seen and

1202
01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.199
witnessed and swear by over the course of history. I

1203
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:12.439
think some of this is going to start coming to light.

1204
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:19.800
And I think, just like with whistleblowers today who are

1205
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:26.159
coming out and sharing their experiences dealing with UFOs UAPs

1206
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:31.119
non human intelligence, this is being taken seriously now by

1207
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:33.239
members of our government.

1208
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:34.520
That's being investigated.

1209
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:40.720
It's slowly happening. I don't know what version of the

1210
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:45.199
truth or to the degree of total disclosure will get

1211
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:52.520
but we wouldn't be getting there without people sharing their

1212
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:59.439
experiences in that community and being believed and for those

1213
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:04.800
things to be taken seriously and studied. That's finally happening

1214
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:08.840
now with non human intelligence. Think about what that means.

1215
01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:20.079
And now, if there's a community of sasquatch enthusiasts who

1216
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:23.640
will listen to the stories of the people who have

1217
01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:29.880
been telling us the same thing for centuries, maybe we

1218
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.880
can make some progress. I love the scientific aspect of it.

1219
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:38.159
I love seeing photos of footprints and hair and tree

1220
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:43.000
brakes and you know, but no one's gotten anywhere with it.

1221
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:46.199
And maybe the reason we haven't gotten anywhere with it

1222
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:50.319
is because we haven't accepted the full potential reality of

1223
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:57.079
what these things are, and even though that's being shared

1224
01:21:57.079 --> 01:21:59.960
with us by the people who've been around these creatures

1225
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:05.479
the longest. So that's my soapbox. That's the experience I

1226
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:09.079
had with resquatching research. Shout out to all those guys,

1227
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:14.239
really respect them, and I think, just to wrap things up, Jeremiah,

1228
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:20.800
I wanted to go back to my family cabin and

1229
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:26.399
Callahan Mud Lakes and Sawyer County because right now, the

1230
01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:33.119
dam that my family's properties basically you know, surrounds whereas

1231
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:36.680
on both sides of where the dam goes for the

1232
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:37.760
lake to the river.

1233
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:43.840
It's in really poor condition. There is an effort to repair.

1234
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:45.640
The dam, rebuild a dam, put a new dam in

1235
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:50.079
to maintain the integrity of the lakes that are formed.

1236
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:55.600
If they cannot get that done through the county by

1237
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.399
forming a lake district, et cetera, that that dam is

1238
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:03.680
literally it's at risk of literally being torn out, which

1239
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:09.319
would completely change the environment and the habitat and the

1240
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:15.039
wildlife in that area. And I think we all know

1241
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:18.439
what happens when you mess with sat when humans mess

1242
01:23:18.520 --> 01:23:24.239
with sasquatch habitat, things can go south very quickly.

1243
01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:26.079
And I don't want that for any of the people

1244
01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:27.960
up there. And I don't know about that would happen.

1245
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.720
But I believe those these creatures are in Sawyer County, Wisconsin.

1246
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.720
I believe. I've experienced things.

1247
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:37.439
That have led me to believe that they're in the

1248
01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:40.479
area of my family's immediate vacation property.

1249
01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:47.720
And so, you know, I think we need for.

1250
01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:52.560
The people of Sawyer County Callahan Mud Lake Protection Group.

1251
01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:59.399
Please continue to take care of the environment. Take care

1252
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:03.439
of the don't destroy sasquatch environment. It won't end well.

1253
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:12.479
Please believe the people who have generations hundreds of years,

1254
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.560
even hundred, you know, a couple hundred years before Europeans

1255
01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:19.960
even came to this continent. This was part of their

1256
01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:22.920
belief system, their culture. Believe them.

1257
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:24.039
I think we can.

1258
01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:27.840
I think I truly believe that we can move this

1259
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:32.359
thing forward and discover a lot about more about these

1260
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:35.760
creatures than we ever have if we just try to

1261
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:41.319
engage and believe. You know, there's a difference between hoaxing

1262
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:47.279
and the WU. I think some of the people who.

1263
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:49.640
You know that even the even the general Bigfoot community,

1264
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:53.079
really enjoys the most round Moorehead is a great example.

1265
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:55.920
He is well respected in the community if you ask me,

1266
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:02.880
and he has he has had encounters, he's recorded the

1267
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:06.880
Sierra sounds, he's provided some of the best evidence. Well

1268
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:09.840
guess what. He's also sharing the WU.

1269
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.239
And I think if we tapped into it, we might

1270
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:15.960
be able to advance the study.

1271
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:17.199
Of these creatures.

1272
01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:23.119
And so, yeah, protect the environment, believe the belief, believe,

1273
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:27.199
just believe believe and we can move this thing forward.

1274
01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:34.119
Andrew, what a group of fascinating accounts. There's a few

1275
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:39.880
really important things that I think listeners can take away

1276
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.039
from the journey that you've been on. Who maybe I

1277
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.119
took away myself, and I'm just going to point them out.

1278
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:52.399
Is the way that you started to embrace the pursuit

1279
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:57.119
of the knowledge of the Native Americans that were in

1280
01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:00.520
the area. And it wasn't just okay, let me get

1281
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:03.119
this knowledge, but it's also a thing where you're doing

1282
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:07.000
it with respect and you're making sure that you're following,

1283
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:11.159
you know, the way that things are done on the

1284
01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:15.399
on the Omaha Reservation with Barry Webster, and I think

1285
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:20.000
that is exactly what people need to do in the

1286
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:23.560
situation such as that. So, you know, hats off to you.

1287
01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:27.800
You are definitely on the right track, and it'll be interesting,

1288
01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.560
you know, to see where that leads to you, because

1289
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:34.520
once you start going down roads like that, it usually

1290
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:39.199
you know, just doesn't stop. It can keep going into

1291
01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:42.439
two other things. Do you have any more plans of

1292
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.279
what this might turn into in the future.

1293
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:51.479
Well, as you know, Jeremiah, the Midwest gets really cold.

1294
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:54.680
Yeah, I'm not going out anytime soon. Yeah.

1295
01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:56.720
Yeah, we're in the thrills of winter right now. But

1296
01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:00.359
I'm hoping to get back out to reconnect with.

1297
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.680
Barry or any other groups.

1298
01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.760
And you know, I hope I I do want to say,

1299
01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:08.920
I hope, I hope I didn't offend Berry by sharing

1300
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:12.399
my experience. I think it's I do believe it's important

1301
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:18.000
for someone like me to share my experience when like

1302
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.359
like you said, when you embrace the culture and the

1303
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:26.319
respect and the spirituality. So I hope again, if Barry

1304
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:28.319
hears this, shout out to Barry, and I hope I

1305
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:30.680
didn't offend you by sharing that, you know, some of

1306
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:31.840
the highlights from that night.

1307
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:35.359
But I would like to get back.

1308
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:38.159
Out maybe a couple times, may make a trip back

1309
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:42.079
up to Sawyer County, Wisconsin to you know, to trek

1310
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.439
around in the in the woods and will and planning.

1311
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:51.640
Actually I'm going to the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference in Columbus,

1312
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:57.000
Nebraska or Grand Island and looking forward to that. That's

1313
01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.399
in April, so yes, really looking forward to.

1314
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:03.600
That.

1315
01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:06.920
After that was really the last thing, because you have

1316
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:08.800
to you have to take some time to process what

1317
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:11.119
you just experienced and put it all together, put your

1318
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:12.079
experience together and.

1319
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:16.319
Form how wre you go from here? Like you were saying,

1320
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:20.960
what rabbit holes do you fall down? Trying to help

1321
01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:25.640
the community uncover more truths about these creatures. So looking

1322
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:30.680
forward to get backed out and definitely looking to become

1323
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:35.720
more engaged with the Bigfoot Society Hatreon group. I've been

1324
01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:39.720
listening ever since we spoke and before, I just haven't

1325
01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:43.800
really really gone into sharing my experience there, and I

1326
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.359
haven't really engaged a whole lot.

1327
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:49.399
But looking to change that and get more involved, because

1328
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:50.960
you know, if you're going to go out there and

1329
01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:52.800
share your story and tell people to believe that, you have

1330
01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:54.159
to have conversations as well.

1331
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:58.720
So I'm looking forward to that. And again I will

1332
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:00.520
share when when theed when the.

1333
01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:03.960
Episode is posted, I will I will post or work

1334
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.159
with you on getting the photos that I have that

1335
01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:09.840
I referenced into the chat for people to see and

1336
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:13.680
comment on. And and who knows, maybe all these things

1337
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:18.279
are just figments of my imagination, but you know, you

1338
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:21.199
could say that of everyone's encounters, and you know, I

1339
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.800
think it's just good to have. It's and you know

1340
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.960
what else, it's fun, it's good to have dialogue, and

1341
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:28.640
it's fun to have conversations.

1342
01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:32.399
That's what you know, really draws me into the Bigfoot society.

1343
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:35.479
And you know, this topic today in general, it's fun,

1344
01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:38.319
but they you know, I think there's an importance to

1345
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:46.319
it that not everyone quite understands. How how how important

1346
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:53.760
and crazy this this whole subject is. So yeah, good stuff.

1347
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.680
Such. I'm so glad that we were able to have

1348
01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:01.399
this conversation the first of it, first half of it

1349
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:06.720
again on a recorded venue like we did tonight. But

1350
01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:09.319
I'm also glad you brought up the Nebraska big Foot

1351
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:11.640
Conference and a lot of listeners might not know that

1352
01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:15.960
that there is a solid Bigfoot conference that takes place

1353
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:20.560
in Grand Island, Nebraska, April twenty fifth through twenty six

1354
01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:25.640
of this year. I will I will be there in attendance.

1355
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:29.560
I'll be a vendor. So it's one of the right

1356
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:33.680
now three planned events that I'm going to be at.

1357
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:36.720
So and we'll see there might be other ones that

1358
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.600
come up, but right now as three planned. So I'll

1359
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:41.880
definitely check that out. From what I was talking to

1360
01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:44.399
Steve Berg just a few months ago, and he said

1361
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.479
last year they're about a little over eight hundred people

1362
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:51.560
in attendance. So it's getting to be a very big deal.

1363
01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:55.399
So if you're wanting to meet other bigfooters in the Midwest,

1364
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:58.039
and also people travel to this one from all over

1365
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:02.000
the place, I would recommend and traveling out to Grand Island.

1366
01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:05.000
That's a few day events and it's a good one.

1367
01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:08.399
But Andrew, do you want to ask you before we go?

1368
01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:12.560
Is it a thing where let's say there's someone listening

1369
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.239
and they're like, wow, man, I know of some crazy

1370
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:19.439
stuff in that area up in Wisconsin. Is there a

1371
01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:22.079
way people can reach out to you or are you

1372
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:26.039
a gentleman that kind of maybe hang out in the

1373
01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:27.319
shadows a little bit.

1374
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:32.000
Well, that's certainly what I that's that's certainly what I have.

1375
01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:36.720
Then Yeah, maybe what I'll do Jeremiah is I absolutely

1376
01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:39.279
you know, because I did mention reaching out and not

1377
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:41.279
having a whole lot of luck connecting with people in

1378
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.800
that area. Huh. I will provide my personal email address

1379
01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:50.039
in the comments of the episode as well. Okay, very cool.

1380
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:52.960
And you're free to share it from there and and

1381
01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:54.880
maybe even pass it on to some of the other

1382
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:58.880
experts and researchers that you're in contact with, who who

1383
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:02.560
may know a little little bit more about northern Wisconsin,

1384
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:04.800
Swyre County, Washburn Price, et cetera.

1385
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:06.399
That would be phenomenal.

1386
01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:10.239
Absolutely well, Andrew, thank you for coming on the show

1387
01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:15.680
and for sharing all the interesting experiences that you had

1388
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.199
over the years up there in Wisconsin, and then the

1389
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:23.319
just very interesting things that happened out there on the

1390
01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:31.239
Omaha Reservation with the res.

1391
01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:36.399
Squatching Research res watching Research. Check them out on Facebook.

1392
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:43.319
With the Resquatching Research guys. Absolutely, thank you again for

1393
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:44.560
coming on Andrew.

1394
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:47.680
Thank you, Jeremiah.

1395
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:49.640
I just want to take a few minutes to say

1396
01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:52.760
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Here's the list. Number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas.

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Number two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number

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three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number

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four any individuals that know about bigfoot being flown off

1411
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after the Mount Saint Helens eruption.

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Number five.

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Individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter well in the military.

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Number six those that have had a bigfoot encounter in

1415
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the southern New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area, including

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01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:02.880
Franklin County, Massachusetts. Number seven. Individuals that have had a

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01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:06.199
bigfoot encounter in a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting.

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01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:09.159
Number eight individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter

1419
01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:12.439
their house forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine

1420
01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:16.800
individuals that have actively have a bigfoot living on their property.

1421
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And lastly, any sightings that are in the Watchitaw National

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Forest area of Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you

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to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members.

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It's your support that helps keep the show going and

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I extremely appreciate it. I'll see you back next time. Listeners.

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SASA Summerfest this year July eleventh through the twelfth. It's

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going to be Fantastic July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters

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Park and Oakridge Ore again and listeners, if you're going

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to go, you can get a two day ticket for

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the cost to one if you use the code b

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f ASS like Bigfoot Society BFS, and it'll get used

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some off your cost. Priscilla was nice enough to provide

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that for my listeners. So there you go. I look

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forward to seeing you there, so make sure you head

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over to www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and pick

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up your tickets today