July 23, 2025

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What happens when a Colorado dad starts noticing signs in the forest — and keeps finding them, everywhere he goes? In this eerie and revealing episode, we sit down with Todd, a healthcare worker and avid hiker from Leadville, Colorado, who shares over a decade’s worth of terrifying, unexplained experiences deep in the Rockies. From massive barefoot prints in the pine needles of Turquoise Lake to primate-like screams echoing through Jefferson Lake, Todd’s story reads like a breadcrumb trail into the unknown. You'll hear about green lights pulsing in burn zones, crushed metal sheds with no claw marks, and the moment his dog dove beneath the driver’s seat — hiding from something just outside the car. Locations include Lost Creek Wilderness, Wellington Lake, and Rocky Mountain National Park. And the deeper he goes, the stranger it gets. Could something — or someone — be watching him in the woods?

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Bron.

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A few days ago you heard from Mike and Todd

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from Colorado about their night encounter. Now, what we neglected

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to get recorded was the specifics about Todd's first encounters.

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So what we have here is a special episode where

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Todd was nice enough to send in more information about

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his bigfoot encounters that initially happened when Joy. This follow

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up to episode number eight thirty six that came out

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just a few days back, So enjoy. Thank you to

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Todd for sending this in.

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Hey, Jeremiah, this is Todd from Colorado. I try this

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one more time. Hopefully it works more than thirteen seconds.

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So I spoke about my experience in Leadville, but didn't

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get into that, so figure out we did that now.

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So I had worked at the hospital up there. I

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was twenty twelve through twenty fourteen, and I would drive

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up on Monday through Friday, or sorry Monday through Thursdays,

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and I stayed by myself up there at an apartment,

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and I had lots of time to kill in the evening,

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so sometimes I go take a drive or go for

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a hike, and this time I've decided I was going

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to go fishing since the weather was getting nicer. I

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want to say it was May because I remember thinking

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about bears coming out of hibernation. As I'll explain later,

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the pictures on my phone say July, but I know

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I'm at least like three phones past that time. So

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went to Turquoise Lake, which is west of town, and

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headed across the dam on the west side of the lake,

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got to the apart where I could see water to

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my right, little bit downhill and there was a little

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pull off, so, you know, parked car. Decided to check

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it out. From there, headed down the hill and I

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came across what, I don't know what it's exactly called,

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but it's an old mining test pit or a tailings pile,

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and I remember going around the pile to the right

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and uh heading down the hill towards the lake, and

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realized that there was a dirt road with a parking

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area that was close to the water. So instead of

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going all the way down and hiking back up, I

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turned around a little bit past that pile and started

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heading heading back to the car, went around it the

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other way, so kind of did full circle to the

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right and I noticed a footprint. It was kind of

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in the pine needles, and it's heading uphill the same way.

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I was going a little bit of a side hill too,

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so you know what wasn't flat in anyway, And you know,

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I stopped and decided that I needed to take some pictures,

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whuse I don't know why anybody would be out there

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in bare feet, and they say some pictures. I wear

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size eleven and a half and it's, you know, a

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good bit bigger than my foot. Kind of looks a

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little funky shape to me, but you can see toes

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and they could see five toes, and you know, they're

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almost like it was digging into the dirt going up

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the hill, in my opinion. Eventually you got back to

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the car, you know, drove down to the road, parked

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down there by the lake, and decided to you know,

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try fishing out the other a little bit of time

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in the evening that I had, and I remember a

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storm kind of rolling in, you know, so it was

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thunder and lightning, and decided to give it up at

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that point. But I do remember standing on the rocks

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on the shore and being uncomfortable and feeling kind of

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vulnerable and I attributed it to the hungry bears coming

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out of hibernation, just remember that, and then kind of,

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you know, after seeing the footprint and then thinking in

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my head could be Bigfoot too, but trying to play

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it off. And it was at the time when Finding

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Bigfoot was on, so it was a it was on

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my mind. I watched Finding Bigfoot fairly often and that

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was one of the things that I could watch on

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the TV up there. A short time later, one of

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the guys from maintenance came into my office and started chatting,

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and he noticed my big Foot hunting license sticker that

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I had by my desk. So he starts telling me

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about how they're here and how his family's seen them,

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and then he points out my window and says how

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they live in the old mines over there, and how

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the government forced the mines to be closed back in

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the day. And he was basically pointing the direction of

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Turquoise Lake. So got me really thinking, and I showed

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him the picture of the Prince and he thought I

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totally saw one. And the only other thing it was

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up there was one of the times I drove to

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the mountain Massive trailhead and decided to hike up by myself.

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I went maybe a quarter mile and I started really

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thinking of the bad idea to be out there by myself,

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and I just felt bad about it, so I turned

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back and actually never went back to that area again.

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Have a couple other experiences, or what it could be,

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experiences that I've had in the past when I haven't

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been with my friend Mike, so I thought i'd share him.

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If they're worthy of including, go ahead. If not, then

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no hard feelings, but figured might as well. So I

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went with my family but one it was September twenty twenty.

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Stayed in the cabin near Wellington Lake, south of Bailey.

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The cabin itself is about a quarter mile back in

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Old Forest Road, and there's only one other place along

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the road there and this cabin is at the very end,

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and then there's just the closed gate that's locked, so

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there's only two places. There's no one at that other place,

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and didn't look like it was used very often. The

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Colorado Trail runs nearby where you can actually see hikers,

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like in the distance you can kind of see half

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bodies moving from from where we were at the cabin

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and the fire pit and everything. So there were some

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tree structures where there weren't any routes or nearby stumps

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near you know, X pattern and like cross shaped things

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that I remember. I just got a recorder, so I

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put that out and we had an elk bugling all night.

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And it was early September, so it wasn't out of

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the question to hear it, but it did go all night,

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and you know, it's kind of cool to hear. One

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of the things they caught in the morning that I

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thought was weird sounded like voices weren't English, they were

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female voices, and kind of attributed to that that it

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could be hikers, but they sounded near the cabin more

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than what the trail was. We didn't hear the hikers

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talking when we were out there, so I thought that

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was a little strange. One of our things was the

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water pump went off on day two, so we didn't

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have any water. So I was busy messing with that,

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trying to get the pump, the work, get some water,

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get showers, and actually they were in the dishwasher and

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use toilet. My oldest son it was getting dark and

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he went out with my wife and he said he

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heard a yell and said it sounded like something like

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finding Bigfoot, and he was pretty freaked out, and that

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would have been he would have been twelve then, and

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he was really anxious and didn't want to be outside

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the rest of the night. We actually had decided to

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move the fire from the fire pit. They had to.

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We had a gas firing, and we stayed. We were

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much closer to the cabin. And one of the things

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that I do remember is it was advertised and the

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host had a comment about something like they haven't seen

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Bigfoot yet. And then one of the other things out

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from them was they warned us about a bear that

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would break into their metal shed. So of course I

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went to go check out the metal shed and it

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looked more crushed than anything. There weren't any claw marks,

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but it seemed like it was smashed from the top

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like you would like picture grizzly bear when they like

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pounce on things and try to break it open. It

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kind of looked like something came down on it more

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than something tried to pull it open. But thought that

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was weird. And it was like right next to the

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cabin too, where actually our boys were staying, so we

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had to actually take and they didn't have blinds on

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the windows. We had to put yoga mats up on

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the blinds with duct tape so they were comfortable sleeping.

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So so the big foot were looking in a couple

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more times went out and thought maybe something was going on.

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So once took the family up to Jefferson Lake. It

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was August to twenty twenty one, and we decided to

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go fish up there. I heard it was beautiful, actually

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heard some some big Foot stories from others. We got

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up there, it started storeman, so it was raining and

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actually started hailing on us. So we kind of pulled

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under a pine tree and waited it out. The lake

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up there it's like ten thousand feet. So once it

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decided to quit, we decided to get out and stretch

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our legs and do a little fishing. And we went

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by the boat launch area. There were only two or

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three cards still there when we got there, and we

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could see other groups fishing in the immediate area. We

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didn't really have much luck. We did catch some fish,

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I do remember, and you know, it was misty and

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there were low clouds, uh kind of what you'd picture,

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you know in washing Tanner, Oregon. That uh, just a

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little hanging clouds and day, and I just remember we

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were all we were all just sitting there and all

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of a sudden, I hear what sounds like chimps up

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in the hillside. And I remember turning to my wife

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and said, did you hear that? She did not hear anything,

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and I'm like, there are freaking chimps up there, and

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it was really weird. It seemed kind of far away,

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but they were loud. And then we decided to give

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it up. We'd caught some fish. My son actually cleaned

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them and put them in the cooler for us to

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take home, and there was only one truck there the

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time we left, and those people were still fishing, so

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surely they didn't seem like hikers, but you know, it

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was just a weird what the heck was that kind

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of moment? And and heard stories of people seeing Bigfoot

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in that area, which is partially why we went up there.

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But it's just beautiful in itself. Another time, and it

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was December twenty one, went up the Rocky Mountain National Park.

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We we lived like an hour from the park, so

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it's it's kind of a regular thing for us, and

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it was a nice day in December. We decided to

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go up there just the just the kind of kind

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of actually go visit where my wife's father's ashes were spread.

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You know. We get up to where there's a pull off.

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The gate was closed for the winter, so we just

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parked on the main road and decided we could walk

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back there was there's hardly any snow, and there wasn't

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any snow on the dirt road back there, so we

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figured it wasn't a big deal. It was maybe a

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mile back, and that's when I noticed there were tracks

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on the side of the road. It was in the

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soft dirt. It was like kind of being oh, I

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think it was being like revegetated would be what you

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would call it. What I'd noticed was again the tracks

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were bigger than my foot. They were about eight feet apart,

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and it looked almost like they stepped just off the road,

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planted and like jumped over the drainage area right off

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the road. And it just thought it was a weird

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place for a person to be running across the road

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without a trail in bare feet in December. And if

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they were going to jump across that, I would have

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thought they would have planted on the asphalt and not

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the soft dirt there wasn't anything on the other side

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that I could see, but the ground got harder and

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there's like granite chips. Since it's it's it's not a

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good spot for leaving tracks after that, but it's just

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really softer right there. And another time I decided to

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go camping by myself with my dog, went up the

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Pewterer Canyon back road. That's pretty familiar for me because

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we go up there fairly at least, well, we used

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to go up there at least every year with family.

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the end and it's Colorado State Forestry School at the end,

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and it is basically you're looking at the north side

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of Rocky Mountain National Park that you could hike into

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the park from there if you really wanted. But anyway,

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it was remember memorial to me. So may yet up there,

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got all set up, get a campfire going, and it

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decides to get windy as heck. And I was in

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old burn area. I think it was from the Cameron

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Peak fire at twenty twenty, so there were that was

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in some nice Ponderosa pines, but off of the pass

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there not too far. It was a burn area if

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it wasn't the Cameron Peak fire, it was a previous fire.

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But I didn't stay up very late, and my dog

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kept wanting to go in the car that he was scared,

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and I figured it was because people were shooting off

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in the distance. So it kind of sounded like fireworks

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like it does this time of year in the neighborhood.

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But and he but he wanted to go into the

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in the front and the driver's seat side and like

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lay down by the gas and the break pedal and

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basically like as far as under as he could get.

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just you know, called it an early night, got in

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the back, went to sleep. At some point, I wake

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up in the middle of the night and I'm hearing

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like two owls hooting sounds like directly over the vehicle,

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maybe like ten feet up, so you know, ten feet

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the most above my head. Did it just sounded like

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these huge owls, and it's kind of like whatever, stupid owls.

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And then you laid there for a little bit and

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thought a lot of them up probably should pee. So

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I got out with the dog, stayed right near the vehicle.

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I like went to the back corner and made sure

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he stayed close. But for some reason, I looked to

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the left and this is my like wu introduction of

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weird stuff that happens. But I looked to the left

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in the burn area, and I see this green light,

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just like a point of light just out looked like

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it was kind of hovering out there, and when I

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looked at it, it just like flashed, kind of pulsed,

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and then just disappeared. And I just remember that pulse

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was like the sound of like an old TV turning off.

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And any of the not spending the whole weekend there,

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because the next day it decided to just kind of

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start raining and be windy again, and it actually started

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snowing by the time I had got finished loading up

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and driving out. So kind of glad they didn't stay

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because they would have just been a cold, miserable time.

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But the thing was was we went back with the

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family to the same spot and I'm not sure right now,

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but it was July or August that year, and one

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of the things that I paid attention to where those

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trees that I was parked under, and there weren't any

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branches that were like ten feet up. It was more

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like maybe like twenty feet up that would support any

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kind of large bird. And it kind of freaked me

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out after seeing that that, I'm like, maybe those weren't

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owls and maybe they were something else standing over the

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vehicle looking in my window. A less couple for me.

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So I like to go in the fall, try to

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get one last hike in when the weather's not too

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bad where I hadn't snowed. We're not not miss So

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October twenty twenty two, I went out past Bailey and

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Kenosha Pass. It's Lost Creek Road. It was an area

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that was recommended to me that I was trying to

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find whoever. I got to the end of the road

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and it's Lost Creek Campground and there's a little parking

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area outside the campground, so I parked there so I

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didn't have to pay, and I couldn't find the trail

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that I was looking for, so I just decided like

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any of these would work. So I went through the campground.

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Noticed there was only a couple of campers, like literally

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two groups of campers. It was really cold that night

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that it was in the low thirties at best. I

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actually I got there maybe like eight in the morning,

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and it was chilly, like I had a hoodie and

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I actually had pants on, and I hardly ever have

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pants on the high. I'd just hike in shorts. But uh,

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there was a group of campers. They had a dog

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that kind of came out when I walked by, and

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he was friendly and was talking to them saying like,

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you know, you guys are you guys are brave camping

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camping when it's that cold in the tent. And they

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thought they were stupid for doing it. But anyway, you know,

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said said goodbye, you know, head it on my way,

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you know, walked maybe like fifty yards, passed their campsite

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at the where the trail comes off off the road

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to the campground. Just decided to head up that. And

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as soon as I hit that trail, there was this

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wet dog smell. It was this wet, dirty dog out

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of nowhere. And it wasn't the camper's dog because he

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didn't smell when I was petting them. Otherwise I probably

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wouldn't have ped him if he smelled that bad. And

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the other thing was he wasn't anywhere near there. So

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I thought that was a weird way to start my high,

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and I would buy myself, so it was paying attention

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to the surroundings. And basically I hiked up through a meadow,

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got to the next where the next road comes across,

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and cut back that and ended up being a ten

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mile hike. But I never did find find find the

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trail that I was looking for. Found it later on

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on another trip, but nothing happened there. And then the

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following year, it was October twenty twenty three, went to

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a trail with my wife this time, and it was

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it's near the where the cabin that we stayed at

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in twenty twenty was that the trail goes the other directions,

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so you don't co pass the cabin there, but it's

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nearby and it goes into the Lost Creek Wilderness, and

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I know it's an area that seems to have pretty

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good activity because that's one of the places Jamyers takes

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people for night hikes. But we were there during the day.

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I'm not sure how far back it is where we started.

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I started seeing what looked like tree structures and then

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just remember we're heading up the hill and there was

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rocks to the right and to the left there were

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just tree structures that they started like one, there's two

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or three, there's six, there's twelve, big ones, little ones,

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you know, tree bends x's. There's logs balanced that I

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don't think a person could lift, or people could lift.

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They surely didn't just fall that way. There's just so

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many different things. It felt like you were walking through

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like an archway, and some of them didn't didn't feel welcoming,

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but I felt they need to go check it out.

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Get a little bit further. We were in the Lost

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Creek wilderness. There's a sign that lets you know you're

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in the wilderness, and there was a creek crossing. We

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crossed the creek, then we looked up to see what

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the trail went and thought, it gets kind of steep,

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and we've been pretty good if we were like five

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miles back at that point. So we crossed back the

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creek and start heading back and we see there's a

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teepee structure like leaning against a tree on the other

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side of the creek a little ways back. And did

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not notice that on the way in, and thought that

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was strange that it's kind of out in the open,

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but it wasn't. Just a couple more quick things for

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you for the listeners out there. If you're thinking about

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sharing a story, or you're afraid to share your story,

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let Jeremiah know just email them whatever. He's not any

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different off air than he is on air. He doesn't

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ask anything weird or make you feel stupid or anything

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like that. But share your story please, because there's so

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many puzzle pieces that we need to figure out, and

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it might not be my piece of the puzzle that

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you share that, it might be somebody else's that helps

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them get the picture. We're all looking to figure this

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out or learn more, or just interested and think it's cool.

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But either way, anything you can share adds that everybody's

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life when it involves involving Bigfoot or any other creature

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or experience, it's weird. Who cares? It's just more information

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for someone else that maybe helps figure it out out

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what this whole thing is. And the other thing is

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if anybody wants to contact us, let Jeremiah and there's

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no judgment of this is too weird or too out

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there or anything. I'm willing to listen to. Im to

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be cool with going out with people, go explore different areas.

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The worst case is we go for a hike and

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say that was stupid and too hard and why did

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we do that? But otherwise we get to have a

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great time in the mountains outside and be with nature.

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So if you want to share or get in contact

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with us, let Jeremiah and I'm sure he'll forward it

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to us. If you're in Colorado, Wyoming. I'm from Pennsylvania

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to so I'm always interested in stuff from back home too.

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But thank you for everything, and appreciate you guys listening,

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and thank you for listening Deeremiah and getting our story

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