The Return of Bexar County Bigfoot / The Bigfoot Trucker

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have BIGFOD activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on with the show Big for Society. I've got the privilege of talking to an old friend tonight, mister Rod Nichols from down there in Texas with Bear County Bigfoot. How's it going tonight? Rod?

0:54 Doing great? Dude? How are you man doing? Aw Man? It's probably been I would guess a few years since we've last talked on the show. What do you think I want to say? It was like two years okay, and you were you weren't full time at that at that particular time, and I think you were trying to get it to where you were doing it full time. And I have to give you kudos, dude. I have to give you a shout out and say, I'm super stoked to see that you're doing this full time and all the hard work that you put into it, man, And I just I'm just so grateful to be a part of what you're doing. In Oh yeah, thank you, Rod. I really appreciate that.

1:35 It is a ton of work, but it's worth it. When you talk to individuals where they're like, man, I feel like I can share what's going on and it feels so much better after chatting, and that kind of thing makes all the hard work, it all the hard work worth it. But but Rod, for those that aren't familiar with with what it is you got going on down there, do you mind spending a few minutes talking about, uh, Bear County Bigfoot and what it is that you do done there? Absolutely? Absolutely. My name is Rod Nichols. I founded Bear County Bigfoot. I am based out of San Antonio, Texas. Bear County is the county that San Antonio is in.

2:15 I got started. I'll just reel back to the beginning a little bit and just go from there. I was somebody that was always into the subject from a young age. I felt like I was a believer from the beginning. I knew there was more out there in the world, in the United States, for that matter, than you're just your typical animals. You hear bears and cats and things like that. I knew there was more out there, and so for me, it was just something I think that was just bound to happen, and I think it all came to a head when unfortunately, I was on disability from my job and I was just I was mobile.

2:55 I had really nothing else going on in my life. It was just me and my son, and I watched a channel from a guy in Utah who presented his trace evidence of the form of wood structures and footprints, and who had talked about his encounters that he had with these creatures as well. But the wood structure thing really stood out to me. It really did, because if you're ignorant to the subject, you tend to believe that this is just all in Washington State, or maybe it's in northern California, or maybe it's an Oregon and that's where that's at, and there's just one big foot out there and that's it, you know, And come to find out it's a there's a population that spans across the United States and there are thousands of encounters and sidings of these creatures all over the United States. And I Binge watched this gentleman's channel like from top to bottom, and the last video he put out was him showing everyone how he finds his trace evidence, how he finds his wood structures, his methodology, if you will. And the criteria was, you have to have a habitat that supports big game, and you have to have a water source close by, and you have to look at the lay of the land, of the topography and make sure that makes sense. What I mean by that is that you have to have some type of passage in and out of that piece of land. And for me, it came

4:28 in the form of this creek green belt called the Salado Creek in San Antonio, which is a very historical creek for the Native Americans. Back in the eighteen seventeen and eighteen hundreds, there was a famous battle after I guess the Battle of the Alamo as well. It was part of the Texas Revolution and understanding that this creek was very prominent, it had history, but also understanding the history of this creek in the way that Native Americans used this creek green belt to go in and out of San Antonio. It was the path, it was their highway. And lo and behold. I lived along the creek, basically by apartment complexes, really a stone's throw from that creek, and I thought that was a good place to start.

5:13 What he laid out to his audience was very intriguing, and he said, hey, look, if you think that this is a hoax, if you think that, I'm put me on here, here's how I find my trace evidence. And I'm going to challenge you to go out and find the same trace evidence using the methodology that I've laid out for you. So the next morning, I got up, brought eye bushytailed, and I went out to go find a wood structure. And on the same day, my son and I went out to go find a wood structure. We found a wood structure. And that just blew my mind because I didn't think that this was something that that would come to fruition. Really because you're watching it on YouTube, and maybe you're watching on TV and things like that, and then there's this guy telling you, hey, look, you know this is how I do it, and go out and try it. And man, you go out and you find exactly what you're looking for. And you know, in the beginning, I thought, God, this has got to be a hoax. There's got to be people out there that are doing these things, and you know, it's just this grand scheme, right, And I really feel, you know, looking back now, that was just just ignorance on my part, but that wasn't the truth. These things that I find, these wood structures that I find, are very intricate. They're they're very crudely built. There there's no uniformity to them as far as humans versus alleged crypted built type of wood structures. So I really come to the wood structure phenomena and that's where I've left it. And for seven years.

6:46 That was in almost seven years, right, twenty eighteens when I started. March twenty eighteen is when I started, So I guess about almost seven years. You know, I was out there in the woods. I was hooked, I was absolutely crooked. And you know what I found was that off of this creek green belt there are several different wilderness parks that are heavily wooded, that have tributaries off of this creek that have this trace evidence. I have found wood structures in several different wilderness parks. And again I said that, I said, is this truly people? Is this really? Is this a hoax of what's going on?

7:29 This is really baffling. But then when I started examining these wood structures, I was looking at pieces that were ten to fifteen feet ten to fifteen feet tall, maybe about eight to ten inches around, whole trees that are torn link from limb with the root system still attached, pulled out of the soil and fashioned into an a frame structure. Or a wigwam or a. Lean type of structure. And then everything just started just starting to try to I guess things started percolating in my mind as far as like, man, who is what person is that strong to pull out a trigue with the root system and then put it together into a tpe or an a fane type of structure.

8:21 You know. So again, you know, that was something that really was baffling to me. And that's where I've kept it. And you know, my wife and I who is out of town right now, but we have become a pretty much a team, and we've been out and searching through these world there's parks and going through different parks, different territory alongside of this creek, and that's where we've kept it. I've dubbed myself as the wood structure guy because I've seen so many of them. And here's the interesting part about this, Jeremiah, is that I can take a lot of the wood structures that I find in my areas I documented, and I can put them up against somebody that's found wood structures in Washington State, Oregon, Northern California, Oklahoma, Vermont, all over the US. Because people are finding these wood structures all over the US. And for me, looking at the comparison of what I document up against somebody else that is a researcher in another state, why is it that these things almost look identical. Either either it's the greatest hopes no to mankind, or it's a cryptied thing.

9:32 And so I tend to lean towards that it is a crypted thing. And I base this off of encounters from other people that have had interviews with various podcasts, your podcasts as well, And so that's where I've kept it and things have been going since twenty eighteen, and that's what we've been doing. Rod Stick wood structures as you call them, are so interesting. And before where I went out to Oregon, I'll tell you the truth, I wasn't really sold on them. But then out thirty miles in the woods man, I saw some stuff and I was like, what is going on out here? This is not an area where just some Joe Schmoe can come and just put something together. This is out there, so I totally get it. Now, when you're looking for these wood structures, have you found things that you know what to look for that might not stick out to the person who's just getting used to it, things that are like the telltale sign of yeah, I've got something here.

10:41 Sure, absolutely. So what I look at first and foremost are is the design overall, the design of the wood structure overall. And I've labeled them, and I know people that our tenured researchers have labeled these wood structures and certain categories the same way that I have. So I've got it down to wigwam, A frame, TP and lean style structures. And recently I've started finding something that looked like a corral type of wood structure as well, where the pieces are formed like a horseshoe and there's one opening in and out and that's it to look at the pieces that are involved. Did this tree grow in this area or was it actually pulled out of the ground or was it deadfall and it came from somewhere else?

11:32 And also to the root system, that's something that's always apparent in somebody's wooden structure. At least for me, the root system of some of these trees are still attached. There's no saw marks or chainsaw cuts. There's no exact cuts to some of these wood structures because these pieces have been pulled out of the ground. Also too, there are some there's some type of weaving that these things are subjected to as far as the construction goes. The smaller sticks that are woven in and out. Sometimes they'll use the palmetto leaves, which is a very long, narrow type of leaf, and they'll take them and they'll take these palmetal leaves and maybe make a knot and tie other pieces together. But the one thing that stands out to me and all this stuff is that the overall construction of these wood structures are very crude. There is no uniformity to these things. So and the reason why I say that is because I always get the what if it's bushcraft rod and it's the boy Scouts that are doing this stuff, and maybe there's a guy teaching a bushcraft class and you just didn't get there in time or whatever. And my answer to that is that I know what bushcraft looks like. There's uniformity. Usually there's hands all involved, so there are exact cuts. And some of these bushcraft shelters are very low to the ground.

13:04 They're not grand in stature, and some of these wood structures that I have found are very grand in stature. I'm about five ten. I have found wood structures that I can stand up in very easily and still have about five or six inches to the ceiling. You know what or who is building these? I have no idea, but they are very crudely. It's almost I almost want to say it's a caveman built these things. You know, there's rocks inside, there's big rocks inside these things. There's there's big pieces, there's small pieces, but there's no uniformity. So with bushcraft, there's more uniformity in the pieces there's more strata in bushcraft. These things are just thrown together and woven and crudely built. So those are the things that I can look for. As far as going out into the deeper areas, I have found wood structures out there.

13:59 But also I am of the mindset that these creatures will use creek green belts that are in suburban areas and build wood structures off of these creeks as well and around suburban areas. And a lot of people don't want to believe that, but I think that when you put yourself in that pigeonhole, you are just throwing what is the I guess the saying is you're throwing the bathwater out without the baby or something. I think I got that wrong. But I think that these things really utilize creek green belts. They follow those the food source throughout those creek green belts. But also too, they will build these wood structures in and around suburban areas and also out in the middle of nowhere, so to speak.

14:51 There you go, have you ever experienced looking inside of one of these structures and have you ever found any hair inside of any of them at all? I have. I have found some hair samples I don't know exactly. And so here's the thing as a DIY researcher, some of the resources that I have, I have to dig around to find someone that may be able to analyze it or lower cost or for free, or find a university. Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

15:42 I have found hair samples. I guess the jury is out on that because I don't know exactly where it came from. They were longer pieces of hair and longer strands of hair. But then again, I don't know if it came from a possum or a raccoon or things like that. But also the one thing I do look for our prints around inside and around these wood structures, and I have found prints. I have about three casts that I've done myself that have been around in the areas that I have been documenting for a few years as well. Those are the kind of things that kind of look for. But also to you know, I have to really debunk myself. I really feel like, you know, if you want it to be bigfoot, you can make it bigfoot. You know what I'm saying. I think as far as Paradoia is concerned, you've got that element, but also to as a researcher, you really have to separate yourself from what you're looking at and go I have to use critical thinking. Is this, people? Is this? Let's look at these pieces? What does it look like? Is it homeless? People? Is is that? And then when I can't you know, when I can't think of anything else and I come to conclusion where well, man, I have no idea what this is, then I think I have something.

17:06 So that's how I play it with the areas that I have documented over the past seven years. I think that's a smart approach to have a discerning eye on things as you do. Have you ever had any weird things happen after going into a structure or spending time around when I've gotten reports sometimes where people will have weird after effects or dreams or anything out of the ordinary like that. Yeah, here's one thing that I hold to. Number One, I don't own the land that I'm documenting these structures.

17:49 It's not like I can sit there and go, no, this is my spot. You can't come out here. You know. Hey, if you happen to find one and you document it and it's in an area that I've been researching, great, awesome. I'd love to hear your input. I'm not stingy that way. The other thing is I've gotten into areas where I found footprints. I found a grand structure and it's in an area where there's nobody around, absolutely nobody around, and it gets a little eerie. I hate to get into the to the like. I don't know how to say this. I don't know if it's a woo thing, but everybody has something inside of them that can tell them, hey, this doesn't feel you probably should go. And I've been in situations like that where I have felt really on edge and I don't know why. Recently, not recently, I would say maybe about about a year ago, my youngest daughter found a few tracks in an area that I had never been to, in a wilderness park, and it was family time. I was trying to just shut everything off and you know, have fun with my wife and my youngest daughter. And I found out that I just can't shut it off when I'm in I'm in a wilderness park. It's go time. She found, you know, a few tracks, and we went down into a holler and found a bunch of wood structures. I would say like maybe five or six wood structures that were just amazing to me. And one of the things that I took

19:21 note of was I looked at my daughter and she was on edge. I was on edge, she was. I really feel like she's an impath in a lot of ways. And she was really add inant about leaving out of the area quick and it was getting dark, it was getting dusky, and she said, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go. And I'm like, wait, what's going on? What are you okay? You know, we have to go right now? And I'm like what She's like, I feel like something is watching me, and it feels ugly. We have to go. So, you know, I've had things like that happen, and I paid attention, especially if you have kids with you or teenagers, the younger people, you know, I feel like sometimes they are a little bit more in tune than us adults are. You know. As I took he did that and I was like, wow, you really felt like something was watching? Said yeah, I felt like something was staring at me. And I was like, okay, great.

20:18 But beyond that, my wife and I had gone to a newer area and this was about a year and a half ago south San Antonio off of this same creek green belt, and this area was different. It was way different. I had never seen San Antonio like this because it was so different. There was a fresh spring that brought out some really nice, clean clear water in this creek that I had never seen. I had. You know, some largemouth bass were in there. I found freshwater clams that were in that area off that creek as well. That with the running water. And the reason why we went there, my wife and I was because a gentleman had messaged beyond his gram talking about his daughter that had gone out to that same area, that same wilderness part and she had something gral at her behind some thick brush and she was on the paved trail just walking or jogging or whatever. She had two full grown huskies, and the dad had said, these huskies will protect you know, my daughter tooth and nail. Well, when this thing vocalized and projected a vocal at her and her huskies, the dogs just tucktail and they wanted nothing to do with this thing whatever it was. They were scared. She ran off and got in her car and took off, and then you know, messaged your dad and told her told him what had happened. He messaged me and said, hey, could you go out to this area this is what

21:50 happened to my daughter and investigated. I said absolutely, because that's what we do. So my wife and I went out there and we dug a little deeper, went out in this area where it was just overgrown. It was just a massive cypress trees and just beautiful forliage. The vegetation was awesome. And we went out in this area where people don't go and we got a growl. We got a growl projected at us, and my wife was the first one because he was in front of me, and she turned around after we had this growl happened. She turned around and looked at me with these frozen, like these scared eyes, and she was just frozen. I was frozen. And she said, did you effing hear that?

22:35 And I said, yes, I did. And that was something that we had never encountered, a vocal like that. But at the same time that vocal was projected at us, it was from across the creek. Then. I don't know if I say it's an island area, but it was across the water, across the creek that vocal came at us, and then there was this high ground that was probably about fifty twenty feet up, like the hill that went up an upgrade, and up on top of that area were other trails. But you can see these little saplings and all these trees that were you can see the tops of them from the area of the spot that we were at, and something was flanking us at the same time that we had this vocalization projected at us, and I want to say, I felt like it was bipedal steps. This thing was flanking us, and I could see that the saplings, the smaller trees, the tops of them shaking whenever this thing walked by. It's almost like it was grabbing trees and shaking them. And the one thing that I took note of was that when I pulled my camera out my phone to document and record this activity, it would stop. It would completely stop, and then I'd put my phone away, and then it would stop back up and follow us, and I'd pull my phone back out it would stop, and it was just a very odd situation. But one of the things that we took note of mostly was this growl. It was

24:08 a low guttural growl and The only way I can describe it was that it was very It had a lot of resonance to it. It was low, guttural. It almost was equivalent to, I want to say, like an eight a weight base hit on a hip hop record, You know what I mean, Like you have that eight aweight base that goes was a vocal that resonated just like that and was low and guttural, and it rattled you from the inside and instantly instilled fear in me and my wife. And so when that happened, we were just freaking out and the only thing I could think of was to get my wife out of there to take care of her first. It wasn't let me pull my phone out and video this, because That's the last thing that's on my mind. I'm thinking about my wife and getting her out there and getting safe and back to the car. So we just slowly backed away after this growl, got back in the car, and we sat there for a minute just staring at nothing, going well, what just happened to us? We had no idea. That was probably one of the most intense situations that we had been in. And that was about a year and a half ago, and ever since then we've been going back there to try and document a few things, hopefully another vocal, which we have not been able to document since then, but we have found some trace evidence in the form of some wood structures, tree breaks, things like that.

25:37 So that's probably the most intense. I think that that we've are things that have happened to us. That is so interesting. And I bet that really changed your wife. What was her viewpoint towards Bigfoot before that happened to her. It's funny, Jeremiah. When we were dating, I thought to myself, I'm gonna tell her exactly what I do and what I'm about. It was always I'm gonna show with her crazy upfront. You're gonna see it up front, and you decide whether if you want to just not date me anymore and go away, or you're you're gonna embrace it. And she embraced that. She was intrigued by it. I don't know if she was fully on board at that time when I was showing her some of the wood structures, because our second date literally was me showing her some wood structures, and so when that gral was projected at us, I think that changed her mind. I think she changed it to there's something out there. I don't know what it is, but it's scary and whatever it is, it's got the attributes of a maybe some type because to me, I think it sounded like an ape in a way.

26:50 And I think maybe that was something that she was thinking as well, going back to when we first started dating, that was something that really wasn't on her mind. I don't think she really even thought about the subject at all. Interesting this area that you're starting to focus on. Have there been other besides the individual that reached out to you? Have there been other instances of things being seen and experienced by other people in the same area. I had posted a just a real quick video about what we experienced a while back. I think it was maybe about a few weeks two or three weeks after that we had encountered we had this vocalization projected as and I had a couple of people on my group page and on Facebook reach out to me and say, hey, like, I've heard about that area, and I've heard of people experiencing vocals. I've heard people experiencing somebody something flanking them.

27:50 So there has been at least a couple of people that reached out to me and had told me that, yeah, this area has had some things happening. Now these are not documented sightings or encounters at all, but the fact that people knew the area, knew what I was talking about, knew where we were, and said I've been there and yeah it's sus and but I also have heard so and so had this happened to them? Or so and so had this happened to them out in that area? And that kind of solidified it for me as far as it being somewhat active. And you know, at that time, we had never had anything happen to us like that. Ever, I'd never had anything to happen to me. You know why when these things happened to you, you can sit there and think about you almost think about life in a way. You're like, what my belief system? What? What have I believed? What have I been believing in? Like this is just this is insane, Like I can't match this vocal up to anything that's indigenous to our area.

28:54 So it was very, very intense, and my wife was pretty shook it up. But I think that gave us more ammunition to go back out and try to pursue maybe another interaction of some sort, we'll see. I've yet to have anything happen in that area yet, But again, I do know this interaction of these creatures is very rare. It's not something that just you just walk out in the wood that just happens. It doesn't happen like that. I think being diligent and being consistent is the key factor here with that area. So that's what we're hoping for. Maybe another interaction of some sort. I don't know.

29:36 So when you go out there, do you have pieces of equipment out with you trying to capture audio or do you have cameras with you? Things like that big for society who will be right back after these messages? What I come equipped with our audio recorders. I have not deployed an audio recorder out there yet, only because I am very Number one, these things are expensive, and number two, I really I don't know. I don't know if you say I'm just just I'm not slow in deploying these things. I really want to make sure that I find a good spot and really get a good understanding of the topography of the area as well, which I have been studying for a while now, and I have not deployed anything yet, but that is something that I'm going to do. And I really believe that this area that we have been going out and documenting is active, and I have a feeling that I have a feeling that there it's a whole different situation at night. I really do I see to find the right spot to

31:07 deploy that voice recorder. I do have game cams. Frustrating thing about game cams is that I really feel like these creatures can see IR and I think that just tips them off. And I think if you really want to stop activity, put out some game cams. It'll put it to a home. And this is something I'm basing off of several different researchers that I have talked to and other eyewitness accounts and interviews as well. So I think the key thing here for me is to focus on the audio, and that's where we're going to go with that particular area.

31:47 I think that's a great idea. Besides this one area, have people been reaching out to about things they've encountered from other parts of the county and San Antonio as well. I have not had anybody come out and let me know about their encounters. Oh, actually, you know what No, I take that back, Deremiah. There was. There was a lady, seventy two year old woman, very nice lady. She had an encounter back in two thousand and five. I interviewed her about Oh gosh, I want to say about five months ago. Five months ago, she sat down and talked to me over the phone. She didn't want to be recorded, so I had to I had to write everything down on a notebook. And she had described a sasquatch that is sure she believed was a sasquatch that stood up and walked in front of them in an area that was a part of that Creek green belt that there's a lot of creek, just so you know, goes all the way north outside of San Antonio, but the southern part of that Salado Creek goes all the way down into all other towns in South Texas. It's a very long, vast creek. And alongside of that creek you also have what's called the Medina River, and the Medina River runs

33:20 a little close to some of that creek as well. And so she was at an area and she described me she was out there in her car with her sister, and her sister had her daughter in law with her as well. They were trying to get some fresh air and hang out, and they went to an area that's known as a Donkey Lady Bridge. And if you know about Donkey Lady Bridge, it's a San Antonio. He's going to say folklore if there's this bridge out there. It's a little bit outside of San Antonio on the southern end, and it's said that if you go out there at night and I forgot what type of ritual yet to do or something, you could hear like cliffs walking across this bridge, and you could hear something like a donkey and that scares people, and so people come out there to try to get into some of that stuff. And I think it's fun or whatever. But this particular time that she was out there was during the day, wasn't at night, and she went across the bridge, parked a car in an area where I think there was more of an open field with some trees, and they were looking out into this area and she noticed a particular tree where she saw a hand and arm come around this tree grab it, and something stood up peeked out behind the tree and then walked out away from that tree,

34:52 and she said it was a sasquatch. She described it as female because she saw the breasts on this particular creek. She had described the hair as being a I think a dark brown, dark reddish long hair that was probably about three or four inches long. Off of the creature, she said, it locked eyes with her and it walked. She said, it walked exactly Patty did. It walked just like that, just turning around and staring at them and just kept on walking. And it went behind some type of a shed. There's a lot of ranches and stuff that are out there, and so you'll have you know, different various like little buildings and sheds and things like that.

35:33 Some of these ranches, I think that's what they were. I think there was that was an area where there was some type of private property where this creature is walking through, and it went behind the shed, she said, and it just it never came back out. She's either it disappeared or it just went behind that shed and just stayed there. And she described it to a tee and it lined up with a lot of encounters that I've heard as far as the color of the hair, the mannerisms, the way this thing walked. All of these things, and it just lined up and she said, it locked eyes with me. And you know, as soon as it locked eyes with me, my sister and her daughter in law just came on glue. They were freaking out, like you need to go get you know, start the car, we need to go with you. They were freaking out and she pros and she was just staring at this thing.

36:25 So that was probably one of the only encounters that I have had anybody come out and talk to me about whether or not there have been anymore, I have yet to find out, because you know, and you know as well as I do people, you know, they're reluctant to talk about their encounters because there's ridicule, there's you know, PTSD. Maybe it wasn't a good encounter at all, you know, and these people are scared to death to talk about and relive this stuff. This lady was gracious enough to tell me about her and counter and so I'm hoping that I can get back out in that area. I've been talking to her a little bit here and there to see if I can get her back out to where I can video and have her recall what happens.

37:13 I'm hoping to do that hopefully this year or maybe next year, but that was probably one of the more I want to say class A siding that I've heard of in my area. I don't know. I mean, we have encounters that date back to the seventies though, you know, so you've got the Olivari family back in nineteen seventy two. They lived up against a wooded area that was close to an air force base called Kelly Air Force Base, and they saw this creature walking by their backyard. In this heavily wooded area. The neighbor next door had a juvenile that was sitting on her back porch back porch steps. She looked out of her kitchen window at the back porch and saw this hairy little creature sitting on her steps and told it to leave and shoot it away.

38:02 It got up and ran off, and this was actually documented in the local newspaper as well. We do have a history of sightings and encounters with these creatures. The only one that I have heard of that was you know what I described was with that particular lady I think was around two thousand and five. That Donkey Lady Bridge account is just fascinating. Have you ever thought yourself is a visual something that you would like to experience yourself. What's funny. I remember being on the show with you the first time, and I remember telling you distinctively, I don't think I want an encounter, which was I had no idea why I said that, because I was thinking about just encounters from other people where they were just they were scary. And I'm sitting there going the field and I don't want to see this thing, Like why is that? You know, as I've progressed in my research and documentation things like that. Yeah, I would love to see one. I would love to see one probably about five hundred yards away. Maybe give me a good running start away from this thing. But yeah, I think I would.

39:23 I think I would like to see or encounter one of these creatures. And you know what, here's the thing. I think, you know, maybe I have. These creatures are very cunning, they're very they know how to camouflage. They're the master of camouflaging. Of they're the apex predator out there. So maybe I had passed right by one of them in one of my areas and never knew it. But yeah, I think I would like to I think a glance at one of these things, so I've changed my mind. There you go, There you go. It's been a while. Hey, that's us. I hope that you do have something happen and down there, and I think if you keep going out with your wife like you you've been doing, there's a big chance that you may the whole be careful.

40:08 What you wish for is what people told me over the last few years and probably say the same back back towards you as well. But man, I would say, if people are listening, and it's crazy how many people listen to this thing. It's wild just the people that reach out. Man, never thought that kind of person would listen to this, which is great. But I'm sure there'll be more than a few people that we'll see. I'll have San Antonio, Texas on the cover, and maybe they have things they've experienced in this area. And I would really recommend You're always welcome to reach out to me. But the cool thing about Rod is he's an individual that this is his base in San Antonio area and Beart County, and so he's the type of guy that you would want to reach out to in order to make sure that he knows what areas are the hot areas and maybe he can even talk to you directly and start to find other areas besides the one he's currently focusing on as well. So is there a way that people can reach out to you roun?

41:18 Yeah, I'm on all the socials Instagram, Bear Canny, Bigfoot, TikTok, Bear Canny, Bigfoot. I do have a private group on Facebook, which is again Bear Canty Bigfoot. I also have two other pages that I have acquired. One of them is called Bigfoot one oh one and the other one is called South Texas Monster Hunter. So I've got three different groups, three different pages on Facebook as well. And I'll say this. You know what I tell people San Antonio, Texas a lot of times, it's no, there's no way Sasquatch would in San Antonio. And my response to that is really like, you're gonna put these creatures in a box and go There's no way. There's no way they could be there.

42:04 There's no way they could be you know, they can go through this creek or through suburban areas. These creatures are opportunistic, they really are. They're not above dumpster diving, They're not above getting an easy meal. The area that the I research is off of the Salado Creek again. But the really interesting part about this ceremiah is that San Antonio literally sits on top of an underground cavern. In fact, we get our water from what's called the Edwards Underground Aquafer, and it is an underground cavern where we get our water. Now, the Edwards Underground Aquifer literally stretches from San Antonio to Austin. That's about what seventy five eighty miles from San Antonio Austin. That is a big underground cavern. The working theory that they have is this they utilize the Salada Creek as their highway to hunt.

42:58 I believe this hunting is done mostly at night. And we've got tons of white tail deer that are out there very healthy, and there's no hunting in these areas, so they are healthy and looking good. So you've got a great food source in the form of this whitetail deer. Also, we've got several water sources that run alongside this creek as well. But also too that the most northern part of this creek, it goes right into a military base that has a vast, thick open area. Again, if we're talking about Apex predator that is a master of masking and camouflaging. I can they're probably going up in this area and you would never know where to look because it is so thick, it is so vast. But also two, that area is what's called the Edwards Underground Aquipa recharge zone, and that is where when it rains, that is where we grab some of our water. I have a theory that these things may be residing underground. They come out at night, do their hunting off of this creek, get their killed, come back, go back underground. Now again, it's a theory. I have not been able to find an opening that is big enough. But I do know that there are caves back there. I just haven't been able to get out there in those sticker areas yet to

44:30 discover that. And I'm hoping that I do. Man, wouldn't it be something if someone reached out because of this as Hey I've seen him go into the caves or I had a sighting right next to that military base, man Rod, I got a feel and some crazy stuff might come out of this interview, and I hope it does for you. I think so, And I think that if you're somebody that wants to reach out. Please do. There's no judgment with me at all. If you think it's outrageous a weird, I want to hear about it. My philosophy on this is that if you're open to some of it, you have to be open to all of it. You really do. I think that's a great way to look at it.

45:13 You got to have an open mind and not put it in a box, but may have rod What a fun conversation about an area we don't really talk about a lot. But you are doing some great work, really getting into it, getting your whole family involved, and I love it big for society. Will be right back after these messages. Do you have any closing words? As we start to wrap up our time here tonight.

45:59 I'm just going to say this, there's a reason why we've got Aarond's that lives in San Antonio from small town monsters. He lives here, Ken Gerhard lives here. Ryan Edwards lives here. I'm very blessed that I've got friends that I can reach out that live in the same city and bounce ideas off and ask questions. I'm very blessed in that area. And so when you think of San Antonio, there's activity going on. I guarantee you there is. And my part of what I try to convey is don't leave us out because we've got stuff going on here too as well. And just because again it's a big city or it's a you know, a city that's growing that there couldn't be any type of activity crypto wise going on. I beg to differ. I really do you know. I would say, hey, come out, talk to me, get a hold of me. I would love to hear your stories. I would love to talk to you.

46:58 Awesome, Rod. Thank you for coming back on the show, and we'll have to definitely stay in touch. Let me know if there's any updates from your research in the future, and we'll have to talk to you again out a later time. Man. I appreciate you, and I appreciate your time, and I have so much respect for what you do, Jeremiah, and again, kudos to you man for making this a full time thing and putting in all the hard work. And I think more good things to come in your way. Brother. Thank you, Rod face you had going on there, but it's to you whatever you do. Okay, yeah, listen, I'm doing for twenty five years. I haven't seen I can be saved. But you know what, I've been through mostly every fourso area from New Hampshire all the way over to Oregon, Washington. See, no I've been. But listen. This year for the first time, I'm me and my infinite wisdom.

47:51 Right. It was late winter time. I was in Wyoming. Let me get the mapouts I could be. I was out of the exact spot. I have this vivid map of the United States in my head. I don't I could travel everywhere out of map, but I don't want to get this exact spot. Maybe somebody else would call it right, So listen I had in that month of March, I was out in Actually I was out in Lander shut down for about last year was about three days. And in this year, late in the year, shutdown for about three day in Landers, and we sat there. I was speaking with some guys that worked for the Department of Whatever Wildlife, the National Parks. These guys make the snowmobile routes. Okay, so I figured I had asked about Bigfoot. They laughed at me, which it doesn't hurt my feelings because I'm never going to stop asking what I believe in something, or I think something is in my brain just hitting it, and I think it's possible in reality. Whatever it is, I'll hit it and look for it. But anyways, I come over to Warland. I think it was in either Warland or Thermopolis. But I was loading twice empty PEPSI soda cans going to server distribute around the nation. Right, So me and my infinite wisdom this one trip, I didn't want to go all the way back south and grab iya. What is it? I eighty, So I said, it's about two o'clock. If I can make it a big horn. I had never been to that stretch. I'm always trying to do stupid stuff like this, right, But being an experienced truck driver, I know what I can

49:21 handle when out of this other guy was speaking about Cortes. I'm very five point fifty. Going up Cortes is amazing, but as a truck driver, you don't want to do that in winter. So anyways, I'm coming to a big horn, and you know, I look at the map, I look at Aki whether it looks like it's great. So I come up the freaking mountain and I'm thinking, if I could just make it over the top by three point fifteen, I'll be over it and I can land on the other side. And in I it was a great mistake. I put myself in this situation where I had to call my son. I always call my kids. They're already young adults. So every time I find myself in a bad situation, I'll call my one of my kids and I'm listening, this is where I'm at, And I don't call you back in thirty minutes. You might want to call state troopers to look for me up there, because I didn't make it across. And so obviously when you get up top of these peaks, you learn as a truck driver that whatever the weather was like down closer to which is not sea level, but the lower you are whatever two thousand and three thousand feet at above sea level, it's nothing like what you're going to be at forty five hundred feet five thousand. Me, in my infinite wism, like, yeah, coming up Big Horn Mountains, it was a great scenery coming all the way up. I was light, so it wasn't really a scary issue because I'm newly kind about heavy, So I was light. I make it at the top of the mountain, but at the ratest feed I was going because it wasn't snowing, but all the snow that had fallen was drifting into the road. But it was already about twenty two degrees twenty five degrees, so it was freezing on the road at this time. And of course the way the sun

50:53 is setting as you're coming up this I believe it's Highway fourteen. I want to see it's hold on because I'm not no, I'm lying it's Highway sixteen or fifteen, whatever it is. But anyways, well, I'm coming up this highway right and the sun's setting, of course says to the west. So as you're coming up this highway, the highest peak of the mountain sits to your left. Because I'm trying to hit eye ninety, so I'm basically going well north or actually east, So the sun's hitting the road, it's freezing the snow that's drifting over. When I get to the high I already call my son let them know, you know, I don't make it across in about an hour, I'm gonna easy to do something for me. So and just because I do signal and I can't reach somebody, because it's happened before but i get to the top of the mountain, the highest peak of the mountain, and I'm just glad the sun isn't all the way down because we're not hitting fifteen cove degrees whatever it is.

51:46 But as I'm going to the top of the mountain, something went across from the lower point from the right over to the left. The size of the footprints and I've heard because I've never seen bigfoot tracks. I've never gone out on team. There's a lot of people in New Mexico off that sixty highway all that stuff, and looks our closest for us is Riadols from New Mexico Mescilero Mountains whatever. But I've never done this, you know. I'm just been truck driving. That's what I've been doing. But besides, these footpriens were enormous and I can see him from far away as because at this if you contemplate on the weather and the way the road condition is, I'm not going to do over twenty miles an hour, but I'm going to be staying at twenty miles an hour because that's my experience. I handed my vehicle as I'm hitting these tracks. It's amazing. Look and I've heard bear tracks step. The bear kind of steps right over its own foot, so they look enormous. But the spread between each track must have been about and I never got off My vehicle must have been about six feet apart.

52:47 That's just a sitting at the top of my rig. As I'm coming by, and I see this set of tracks going over the road and then it went over a parkbere friends must have been about four and a half if feet tall. The way the tracks look going over the road over the barbed wire, seems like it was Andre the giant went over that rope the rescue room. It just it looked like Andy went. I thought to myself it must have been a bear. But because I'm a fearful person and I believe in my instinct, I didn't stop. I didn't want to stop and take a picture. But I said, if it is what I think it is, do I want to be caught off my vehicle. I see conditions and then risking, and my vehicle is not going to have the traction I already have. I might, I'm not stupid. I'm not going to put myself in a situation. So these people want to be in the ranch or go wherever they are. What are you going to do in front of one of these creatures? Pray to God, that's about the last thing you have. So I drove by it. I looked at it. So when I got over to Buffalo, there's a little truck stop, I said, you hitigh ninety right before high night. I think it's a sinkler or whatever it is. There's a young man in there. So I go in there, warm up soup whatever. It's cold night. I'm glad I made it down the mountain. I call my son. And when I walk into that truck stop, asked a young kid.

54:05 I'm like, listen, I have a question. How you lived verreous? Yeah? I lived time of my life. I'm like, do you hunt? Yeah, of course it's Buffalo. We aren't here. That's what we so a girl do. And I'm like, listen, is there a bear? Is bear? Are there bears out there right now? He said, there's bears, but there's no bears. It's mid March, late March. They don't come out to about late April at hibernation. I'm like, wow, I never took that. Next, I'm from the desert. I don't know this stuff. I never took it into perspective. I'm like, are you serious? So at this time, there's two hunters walking in right, and he goes, why is that. I'm like, dude, I've seen some tracks on top of Big Horn. I'm talking about huge tracks and the spread which can eat each footprint was just and I didn't stop and take pictures.

54:48 I'll tell you what I saw. He goes, yeah, but there's no bears right now. I'm like, what about bigfoot? And as I'm talking, I didn't realize these hunters were griving coffee listening to me, right, they're a little older. I am about thirty thirty five, and what I'm asking me listen, where'd you see this again? I'm like, at the highest point of the Bighorn Mountains, coming up this highway whatever, sixteen fifty whatever it was, Jeremiah, they did not hesitate. They didn't They grabbed their coffee, they paid for it, and they ran out that way. Now, this is the thing. Whatever made these tracks, I firmly believe they were not hoax is because the way the snow drifts, the way as you step on snow, I would have seen somebody else's tracks. Like if there was people faking these tracks. You would have been able to see these tracks all around these big footprints. Whatever did these prints like?

55:41 It was just amazing. That's the only thing I've seen now. On a different occasion down by grape Mine, I was at the Pilot truck stop in California close to where these people were just talking about this whatever. Right, there's some guys that US Department of forestryt this is back in twenty twenty two, twenty three, I want to say, early twenty three, late twenty two. I was up in the Lincoln National Forest and I didn't see anything. I didn't whatever. I just felt there's this eerie feeling. Like I'm telling you I've been through all these forests, there's an eerie feeling there up on that US Highway twenty in Oregon leading up to Portland. Dude, that is amazing. Forestry and Bigfoot lives somewhere. That's the perfect area now, Lincoln National Force and other I mean, I've been through Osamite, I've been to Yellowstone, I've been through I can time.

56:29 There's only one other spot that i'd been that I didn't know existing after all these years. Are driving was coming in from Wisconsin for the Madison area. I didn't know you could reach over to Michigan through the Top Park. I didn't know that existed. So when I did go through there and I see these big old wood carvings that people made of Bigfoot, that's another area that you know, what if that beast exists, that's a perfect area. But anyways, back to my grape mind story. Two kids from years at comp kid because younger than thirty years old, right, so they got the US Apartment of fesheet. I asked him that out. I'm like, listen, guy, I can you ask you a question like what same way I asked these other people that work for us of making these snowmobile routes and myami as these guys in the US Apartment of Forest, I'm like, do you guys believe in Bigfoot?

57:18 Is there something in the end One of them jumps up and without no ridicule to my comment, his eyes open up and he says, listen. I was stationed up in the Lincoln National Park for about two years. He said, I'm gonna tell you one thing. I don't know if it's Bigfoot, but there's something up on those mountains. And it was so severe that we couldn't go out on our own. We had to have a partner with us at all times. That's all he said. But by the look in his face and then the other one, I guess they had just been the sign of the same area recently. The other one talked about Mendocino. I don't know if you've heard about Mendosino, but it's it reminds me a lot of that organ stretch. And he also had an encounter in Mendocino, and he said that same situation.

58:06 There's a there was a moment in Mendocino where they had to go out in groups. They couldn't go out on their own, and it wasn't safe for them, especially at night. Could have been a cool or whatever. But the way he touched on the topic, he never mentioned a feline. He'd never mentioned a bear, as the other one mentioned about Lincoln National Force and whatever. It was something that they don't know, explained. He emphasized that in Mendocino they encountered something similar, and that's about it. And it's just that's all I have to say about that topic. It's and I'm hoping one of these days, like I'm traveling through all his sores. But then I hear these stories the way Big Food would just sit there and clumped himself down and he'll look like a tree truck.

58:47 I'm not going to see him going through a highway at forty five miles an hour. Probably not. But these eerie feelings you get all through Oregon Washington, it's just amazing. There's something you could feel it. And like people say, there's the instinct that we have the survival instinct mechanism, and I believe it, and hopefully you get encounter. I've been hearing these Iowa encounters. Oh and I had one more thing I wanted to tell you. When I gave you my number on email, you had a gentleman talking about and this is so weird because I thought we're his spatting. My family's been We've been around the real grand for over one hundred years. I used to hear my great grandmother when this I think it was Brown Dwarf talking about how his grandparents or his grandpa TJ.

59:29 Took a lot of knowledge with him when they passed away. Right, my great grandparents used to talk about a big ball of fire moving through the hills in the Mountains because we're at the base of the Rocky Mountains, right. They talked about this ball of fire moving, and it signified there was a treasure. I had never heard somebody out of our culture as this one guy from Oklahoma did about a month ago. I know, I forget his names. I don't pay potentially these names, but he was talking about Oklahoma. I think he's a forget the name of their tribe, but he's a tribal person. Bear Creek I believe it was Bear Creek Nation. Maybe that's in Minnesota or Consent. I'm not sure, but I think he said it is Bear Creek they're talking about. He was talking about he thought Bigfoot was taking care of some kind of treasure that the Spaniards might have left behind, and these orbs or balls of fire always came about where these treasures were at. It's insane because my great grandparents would talk about that, and hearing somebody else from over eight hundred miles away talk about the same topic. Now, there's no doubt in my mind my great grandparents weren't crazy.

1:00:45 There's a lot of things you don't. We want to think they're crazy because they're older people that have no technology in their heads, and all they know is basic roots of truth. They knew how to cure you from disease by taking you in an animal stalls like the gold stalls or the cow stars. And now we realize that having exposure to this positive bacteria creates enzymes, thing these positive enzymes that actually boost your immune system. These people were actually very nature savvy. But this story about the balls of fire, this gentleman from Oklahoma talked about just really triggered me. And I had to comment to you, let you know what your mind. He's onto something. I don't know what he's onto, but I remember these stories from my great grandparents, my grandparents, and my mom. They all passed away already, but I couldn't remember these stories of a ball of fire. And all my friends all around in the Pastor, Texas area, they all know about this.

1:01:37 The people that grew up and have grandparents that grew up in that area, we all know about this story about balls. And it all goes back to Panchovia. Banchovilla is a Mexican revolutionary right and supposed he stole a lot of money from the riches like the Peter pan If you will took a lot of money from the rich and gave it to the poor. But a lot of this money, fortune, treasure, whatever you're gonna call it, he couldn't carry it in these carriages or horses and mules. S had to bury it and come back for it later. But as the US military hunting of downs were in parad or whatever it was in Chiuauan, he was never able to come back for these treasures hidden fortunes. And supposedly that's where you see these balls of fire come out. Be it makes sense. Ian you have some kind of element, like some kind of mineral like iron or whatever, under zero oxygen circumstances, buried in the ground, they might produce gas like h twists like oil. You know, I worked at the oil field, and this might produce a ball of fire eventually if you get the perfect spark or whatever.

1:02:35 But I don't know. I'm not a scientists. I've wanted stuff. But it makes sense if you just take the root of what these people are talking about. And then now you get this guy from Oklahoma talking about the same scenario. Basically, it's just intriguing. Wow, all this time, I've been putting it on the side, thinking my great grandparents are crazy. But this guy just hid something that nobody should not our culture because that's farting. He just hit it. But yeah, Jeremiah, you've got a great scenario going on for everybody. Thank you. I'm you're going to take me all throughout. You have no idea how many miles I go because of you. I appreciate you and your phone. I appreciate that. That makes me feel really good. Man, You've got such a good thing going. You can travel all the Bigfoot spots and talk to people, and man, you're getting some good info. So I appreciate you sharing what you've experienced so far, and please keep me in the loop with what happens next out there.

1:03:31 Yeah, well sure will Jeremain, you have a great weekend as leet. I'll let you do your thing. I'm all right dedicate so much time to us. I'm pretty sure you got a life and live it well and hopefully we can contact you later. You got to be safe out there, sir Artler. You're a big for society. Our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an e at Bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years, and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one.

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