Dec. 4, 2024

The Return of Bexar County Bigfoot / The Bigfoot Trucker

In this episode, the Bigfoot Society reconnects with Rod Nichols from Bexar County Bigfoot in San Antonio, Texas. Rod shares his journey into Bigfoot research, inspired by an encounter he had while on disability. He dives into his methodology of...

In this episode, the Bigfoot Society reconnects with Rod Nichols from Bexar County Bigfoot in San Antonio, Texas. Rod shares his journey into Bigfoot research, inspired by an encounter he had while on disability. He dives into his methodology of discovering 'wood structures' believed to be linked to Bigfoot and recounts various evidence and experiences. Rod discusses intriguing footprint discoveries, eerie vocalizations, and potential cryptid encounters in the region. He also touches on local lore, treasure legends, and the challenges faced by Bigfoot researchers in Texas. The episode concludes with advice to listeners on how to share their own sightings and experiences. Additionally, we hear an intriguing account from a truck driver who shares his own Bigfoot experiences across various locations. Tune in for a fascinating look at Bigfoot activity in an unexpected area!

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slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show Big for Society. I've got the privilege

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of talking to an old friend tonight, mister Rod Nichols

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from down there in Texas with Bear County Bigfoot. How's

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it going tonight? Rod?

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Doing great?

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Dude? How are you man doing?

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Aw Man?

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It's probably been I would guess a few years since

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we've last talked on the show.

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What do you think I want to say?

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It was like two years okay, and you were you

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weren't full time at that at that particular time, and

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I think you were trying to get it to where

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you were doing it full time.

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And I have to give you kudos, dude. I have

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to give you a shout out and say, I'm super

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stoked to see that you're doing this full time and

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all the hard work that you put into it, man,

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And I just I'm just so grateful to be a

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part of what you're doing.

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In Oh yeah, thank you, Rod. I really appreciate that.

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It is a ton of work, but it's worth it.

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When you talk to individuals where they're like, man, I

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feel like I can share what's going on and it

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feels so much better after chatting, and that kind of

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thing makes all the hard work, it all the hard

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work worth it. But but Rod, for those that aren't

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familiar with with what it is you got going on

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down there, do you mind spending a few minutes talking about, uh,

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Bear County Bigfoot and what it is that you do

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done there?

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Absolutely? Absolutely. My name is Rod Nichols. I founded Bear

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County Bigfoot. I am based out of San Antonio, Texas.

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Bear County is the county that San Antonio is in.

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I got started. I'll just reel back to the beginning

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a little bit and just go from there. I was

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somebody that was always into the subject from a young age.

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I felt like I was a believer from the beginning.

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I knew there was more out there in the world,

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in the United States, for that matter, than you're just

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your typical animals. You hear bears and cats and things

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like that. I knew there was more out there, and

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so for me, it was just something I think that

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was just bound to happen, and I think it all

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came to a head when unfortunately, I was on disability

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from my job and I was just I was mobile.

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I had really nothing else going on in my life.

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It was just me and my son, and I watched

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a channel from a guy in Utah who presented his

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trace evidence of the form of wood structures and footprints,

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and who had talked about his encounters that he had

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with these creatures as well. But the wood structure thing

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really stood out to me. It really did, because if

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you're ignorant to the subject, you tend to believe that

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this is just all in Washington State, or maybe it's

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in northern California, or maybe it's an Oregon and that's

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where that's at, and there's just one big foot out

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there and that's it, you know, And come to find

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out it's a there's a population that spans across the

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United States and there are thousands of encounters and sidings

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of these creatures all over the United States. And I

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and the last video he put out was him showing

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everyone how he finds his trace evidence, how he finds

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his wood structures, his methodology, if you will. And the

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criteria was, you have to have a habitat that supports

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big game, and you have to have a water source

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close by, and you have to look at the lay

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of the land, of the topography and make sure that

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makes sense. What I mean by that is that you

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have to have some type of passage in and out

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of that piece of land. And for me, it came

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in the form of this creek green belt called the

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Salado Creek in San Antonio, which is a very historical

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creek for the Native Americans. Back in the eighteen seventeen

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and eighteen hundreds, there was a famous battle after I

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guess the Battle of the Alamo as well. It was

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part of the Texas Revolution and understanding that this creek

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was very prominent, it had history, but also understanding the

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history of this creek in the way that Native Americans

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used this creek green belt to go in and out

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of San Antonio. It was the path, it was their highway.

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And lo and behold. I lived along the creek, basically

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by apartment complexes, really a stone's throw from that creek,

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and I thought that was a good place to start.

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What he laid out to his audience was very intriguing,

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and he said, hey, look, if you think that this

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is a hoax, if you think that, I'm put me

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on here, here's how I find my trace evidence. And

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I'm going to challenge you to go out and find

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the same trace evidence using the methodology that I've laid

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out for you. So the next morning, I got up,

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brought eye bushytailed, and I went out to go find

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a wood structure. And on the same day, my son

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and I went out to go find a wood structure.

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We found a wood structure. And that just blew my

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mind because I didn't think that this was something that

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that would come to fruition. Really because you're watching it

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on YouTube, and maybe you're watching on TV and things

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like that, and then there's this guy telling you, hey, look,

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you know this is how I do it, and go

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out and try it. And man, you go out and

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you find exactly what you're looking for. And you know,

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in the beginning, I thought, God, this has got to

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be a hoax. There's got to be people out there

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that are doing these things, and you know, it's just

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this grand scheme, right, And I really feel, you know,

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looking back now, that was just just ignorance on my part,

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but that wasn't the truth. These things that I find,

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these wood structures that I find, are very intricate. They're

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they're very crudely built. There there's no uniformity to them

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as far as humans versus alleged crypted built type of

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wood structures. So I really come to the wood structure

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phenomena and that's where I've left it. And for seven years.

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That was in almost seven years, right, twenty eighteens when

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I started. March twenty eighteen is when I started, So

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I guess about almost seven years. You know, I was

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out there in the woods. I was hooked, I was

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absolutely crooked. And you know what I found was that

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off of this creek green belt there are several different

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wilderness parks that are heavily wooded, that have tributaries off

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of this creek that have this trace evidence. I have

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found wood structures in several different wilderness parks. And again

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I said that, I said, is this truly people? Is

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this really? Is this a hoax of what's going on?

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This is really baffling. But then when I started examining

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these wood structures, I was looking at pieces that were

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ten to fifteen feet ten to fifteen feet tall, maybe

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about eight to ten inches around, whole trees that are

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torn link from limb with the root system still attached,

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pulled out of the soil and fashioned into an a

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frame structure.

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Or a wigwam or a.

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Lean type of structure.

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And then everything just started just starting to try to

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I guess things started percolating in my mind as far

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as like, man, who is what person is that strong

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to pull out a trigue with the root system and

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then put it together into a tpe or an a

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fane type of structure.

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You know. So again, you know, that was something that

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really was baffling to me. And that's where I've kept it.

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And you know, my wife and I who is out

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of town right now, but we have become a pretty

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much a team, and we've been out and searching through

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these world there's parks and going through different parks, different

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territory alongside of this creek, and that's where we've kept it.

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I've dubbed myself as the wood structure guy because I've

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seen so many of them. And here's the interesting part

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about this, Jeremiah, is that I can take a lot

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of the wood structures that I find in my areas

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I documented, and I can put them up against somebody

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that's found wood structures in Washington State, Oregon, Northern California, Oklahoma, Vermont,

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all over the US. Because people are finding these wood

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structures all over the US. And for me, looking at

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the comparison of what I document up against somebody else

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that is a researcher in another state, why is it

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that these things almost look identical. Either either it's the

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greatest hopes no to mankind, or it's a cryptied thing.

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And so I tend to lean towards that it is

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a crypted thing. And I base this off of encounters

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from other people that have had interviews with various podcasts,

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your podcasts as well, And so that's where I've kept

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it and things have been going since twenty eighteen, and

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that's what we've been doing.

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Rod Stick wood structures as you call them, are so interesting.

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And before where I went out to Oregon, I'll tell

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you the truth, I wasn't really sold on them. But

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then out thirty miles in the woods man, I saw

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some stuff and I was like, what is going on

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out here? This is not an area where just some

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Joe Schmoe can come and just put something together. This

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is out there, so I totally get it. Now, when

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you're looking for these wood structures, have you found things

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that you know what to look for that might not

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stick out to the person who's just getting used to it,

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things that are like the telltale sign of yeah, I've

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got something here.

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Sure, absolutely. So what I look at first and foremost

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are is the design overall, the design of the wood

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structure overall. And I've labeled them, and I know people

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that our tenured researchers have labeled these wood structures and

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certain categories the same way that I have. So I've

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got it down to wigwam, A frame, TP and lean

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style structures. And recently I've started finding something that looked

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like a corral type of wood structure as well, where

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the pieces are formed like a horseshoe and there's one

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opening in and out and that's it to look at

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the pieces that are involved. Did this tree grow in

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this area or was it actually pulled out of the

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ground or was it deadfall and it came from somewhere else?

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And also to the root system, that's something that's always

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apparent in somebody's wooden structure. At least for me, the

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root system of some of these trees are still attached.

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There's no saw marks or chainsaw cuts. There's no exact

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cuts to some of these wood structures because these pieces

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have been pulled out of the ground. Also too, there

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are some there's some type of weaving that these things

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are subjected to as far as the construction goes. The

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smaller sticks that are woven in and out. Sometimes they'll

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use the palmetto leaves, which is a very long, narrow

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type of leaf, and they'll take them and they'll take

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these palmetal leaves and maybe make a knot and tie

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other pieces together. But the one thing that stands out

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to me and all this stuff is that the overall

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construction of these wood structures are very crude. There is

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no uniformity to these things. So and the reason why

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I say that is because I always get the what

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if it's bushcraft rod and it's the boy Scouts that

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are doing this stuff, and maybe there's a guy teaching

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a bushcraft class and you just didn't get there in

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time or whatever. And my answer to that is that

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I know what bushcraft looks like. There's uniformity. Usually there's

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hands all involved, so there are exact cuts. And some

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of these bushcraft shelters are very low to the ground.

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They're not grand in stature, and some of these wood

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structures that I have found are very grand in stature.

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I'm about five ten. I have found wood structures that

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I can stand up in very easily and still have

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about five or six inches to the ceiling. You know

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what or who is building these? I have no idea,

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but they are very crudely. It's almost I almost want

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to say it's a caveman built these things. You know,

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there's rocks inside, there's big rocks inside these things. There's

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there's big pieces, there's small pieces, but there's no uniformity.

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So with bushcraft, there's more uniformity in the pieces there's

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more strata in bushcraft. These things are just thrown together

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and woven and crudely built. So those are the things

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that I can look for. As far as going out

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into the deeper areas, I have found wood structures out there.

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But also I am of the mindset that these creatures

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will use creek green belts that are in suburban areas

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and build wood structures off of these creeks as well

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and around suburban areas. And a lot of people don't

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want to believe that, but I think that when you

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put yourself in that pigeonhole, you are just throwing what

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is the I guess the saying is you're throwing the

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bathwater out without the baby or something. I think I

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got that wrong. But I think that these things really

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utilize creek green belts. They follow those the food source

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throughout those creek green belts. But also too, they will

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build these wood structures in and around suburban areas and

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also out in the middle of nowhere, so to speak.

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There you go, have you ever experienced looking inside of

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one of these structures and have you ever found any

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hair inside of any of them at all?

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I have. I have found some hair samples I don't

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know exactly. And so here's the thing as a DIY researcher,

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some of the resources that I have, I have to

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dig around to find someone that may be able to

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analyze it or lower cost or for free, or find

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a university.

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Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

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I have found hair samples. I guess the jury is

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out on that because I don't know exactly where it

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came from. They were longer pieces of hair and longer

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strands of hair. But then again, I don't know if

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it came from a possum or a raccoon or things

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like that. But also the one thing I do look

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for our prints around inside and around these wood structures,

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and I have found prints. I have about three casts

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that I've done myself that have been around in the

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areas that I have been documenting for a few years

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as well. Those are the kind of things that kind

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of look for. But also to you know, I have

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to really debunk myself. I really feel like, you know,

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if you want it to be bigfoot, you can make

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it bigfoot. You know what I'm saying. I think as

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far as Paradoia is concerned, you've got that element, but

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also to as a researcher, you really have to separate

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yourself from what you're looking at and go I have

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to use critical thinking. Is this, people? Is this? Let's

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look at these pieces? What does it look like? Is

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it homeless? People? Is is that? And then when I

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can't you know, when I can't think of anything else

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and I come to conclusion where well, man, I have

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no idea what this is, then I think I have something.

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So that's how I play it with the areas that

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I have documented over the past seven years.

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I think that's a smart approach to have a discerning

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eye on things as you do. Have you ever had

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any weird things happen after going into a structure or

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spending time around when I've gotten reports sometimes where people

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will have weird after effects or dreams or anything out

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of the ordinary like that.

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Yeah, here's one thing that I hold to.

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Number One, I don't own the land that I'm documenting

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these structures.

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It's not like I can sit there and go, no,

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this is my spot. You can't come out here. You know. Hey,

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if you happen to find one and you document it

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and it's in an area that I've been researching, great, awesome.

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I'd love to hear your input. I'm not stingy that way.

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The other thing is I've gotten into areas where I

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found footprints. I found a grand structure and it's in

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an area where there's nobody around, absolutely nobody around, and

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it gets a little eerie. I hate to get into

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the to the like. I don't know how to say this.

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I don't know if it's a woo thing, but everybody

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has something inside of them that can tell them, hey,

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this doesn't feel you probably should go. And I've been

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in situations like that where I have felt really on

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edge and I don't know why. Recently, not recently, I

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would say maybe about about a year ago, my youngest

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daughter found a few tracks in an area that I

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had never been to, in a wilderness park, and it

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was family time. I was trying to just shut everything

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off and you know, have fun with my wife and

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my youngest daughter. And I found out that I just

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can't shut it off when I'm in I'm in a

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wilderness park. It's go time. She found, you know, a

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few tracks, and we went down into a holler and

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found a bunch of wood structures. I would say like

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maybe five or six wood structures that were just amazing

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to me. And one of the things that I took

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note of was I looked at my daughter and she

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was on edge. I was on edge, she was. I

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really feel like she's an impath in a lot of ways.

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And she was really add inant about leaving out of

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the area quick and it was getting dark, it was

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getting dusky, and she said, we gotta go, we gotta go,

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we gotta go. And I'm like, wait, what's going on?

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What are you okay? You know, we have to go

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right now? And I'm like what She's like, I feel

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like something is watching me, and it feels ugly. We

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have to go. So, you know, I've had things like

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that happen, and I paid attention, especially if you have

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kids with you or teenagers, the younger people, you know,

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I feel like sometimes they are a little bit more

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in tune than us adults are. You know. As I

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took he did that and I was like, wow, you

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really felt like something was watching? Said yeah, I felt

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like something was staring at me. And I was like, okay, great.

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But beyond that, my wife and I had gone to

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a newer area and this was about a year and

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a half ago south San Antonio off of this same

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creek green belt, and this area was different. It was

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way different. I had never seen San Antonio like this

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because it was so different. There was a fresh spring

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that brought out some really nice, clean clear water in

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this creek that I had never seen. I had. You know,

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some largemouth bass were in there. I found freshwater clams

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that were in that area off that creek as well.

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That with the running water. And the reason why we

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went there, my wife and I was because a gentleman

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had messaged beyond his gram talking about his daughter that

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had gone out to that same area, that same wilderness

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part and she had something gral at her behind some

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thick brush and she was on the paved trail just

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walking or jogging or whatever. She had two full grown huskies,

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and the dad had said, these huskies will protect you know,

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my daughter tooth and nail. Well, when this thing vocalized

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and projected a vocal at her and her huskies, the

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dogs just tucktail and they wanted nothing to do with

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this thing whatever it was. They were scared. She ran

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off and got in her car and took off, and

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then you know, messaged your dad and told her told

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him what had happened. He messaged me and said, hey,

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could you go out to this area this is what

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happened to my daughter and investigated. I said absolutely, because

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that's what we do. So my wife and I went

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out there and we dug a little deeper, went out

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in this area where it was just overgrown. It was

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just a massive cypress trees and just beautiful forliage. The

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vegetation was awesome. And we went out in this area

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where people don't go and we got a growl. We

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got a growl projected at us, and my wife was

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the first one because he was in front of me,

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and she turned around after we had this growl happened.

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She turned around and looked at me with these frozen,

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like these scared eyes, and she was just frozen. I

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was frozen. And she said, did you effing hear that?

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And I said, yes, I did. And that was something

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that we had never encountered, a vocal like that. But

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at the same time that vocal was projected at us,

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it was from across the creek. Then. I don't know

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if I say it's an island area, but it was

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across the water, across the creek that vocal came at us,

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and then there was this high ground that was probably

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about fifty twenty feet up, like the hill that went

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up an upgrade, and up on top of that area

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were other trails. But you can see these little saplings

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and all these trees that were you can see the

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tops of them from the area of the spot that

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we were at, and something was flanking us at the

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same time that we had this vocalization projected at us,

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and I want to say, I felt like it was

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bipedal steps. This thing was flanking us, and I could

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see that the saplings, the smaller trees, the tops of

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them shaking whenever this thing walked by. It's almost like

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it was grabbing trees and shaking them. And the one

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thing that I took note of was that when I

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pulled my camera out my phone to document and record

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this activity, it would stop. It would completely stop, and

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then I'd put my phone away, and then it would

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stop back up and follow us, and I'd pull my

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phone back out it would stop, and it was just

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a very odd situation. But one of the things that

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we took note of mostly was this growl. It was

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a low guttural growl and The only way I can

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describe it was that it was very It had a

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lot of resonance to it. It was low, guttural. It

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almost was equivalent to, I want to say, like an

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eight a weight base hit on a hip hop record,

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You know what I mean, Like you have that eight

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aweight base that goes was a vocal that resonated just

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like that and was low and guttural, and it rattled

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you from the inside and instantly instilled fear in me

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and my wife. And so when that happened, we were

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just freaking out and the only thing I could think

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of was to get my wife out of there to

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take care of her first. It wasn't let me pull

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my phone out and video this, because That's the last

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thing that's on my mind. I'm thinking about my wife

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and getting her out there and getting safe and back

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to the car. So we just slowly backed away after

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this growl, got back in the car, and we sat

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there for a minute just staring at nothing, going well,

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what just happened to us? We had no idea. That

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was probably one of the most intense situations that we

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had been in. And that was about a year and

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a half ago, and ever since then we've been going

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back there to try and document a few things, hopefully

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another vocal, which we have not been able to document

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since then, but we have found some trace evidence in

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the form of some wood structures, tree breaks, things like that.

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So that's probably the most intense. I think that that

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we've are things that have happened to us.

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That is so interesting. And I bet that really changed

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your wife. What was her viewpoint towards Bigfoot before that

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happened to her.

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It's funny, Jeremiah. When we were dating, I thought to myself,

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I'm gonna tell her exactly what I do and what

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I'm about. It was always I'm gonna show with her

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crazy upfront. You're gonna see it up front, and you

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decide whether if you want to just not date me

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anymore and go away, or you're you're gonna embrace it.

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And she embraced that. She was intrigued by it. I

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don't know if she was fully on board at that

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time when I was showing her some of the wood structures,

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because our second date literally was me showing her some

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wood structures, and so when that gral was projected at us,

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I think that changed her mind. I think she changed

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it to there's something out there. I don't know what

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it is, but it's scary and whatever it is, it's

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got the attributes of a maybe some type because to me,

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I think it sounded like an ape in a way.

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And I think maybe that was something that she was

461
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.400
thinking as well, going back to when we first started dating,

462
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.559
that was something that really wasn't on her mind. I

463
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.279
don't think she really even thought about the subject at all.

464
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:06.400
Interesting this area that you're starting to focus on. Have

465
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.920
there been other besides the individual that reached out to you?

466
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.839
Have there been other instances of things being seen and

467
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.960
experienced by other people in the same area.

468
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.000
I had posted a just a real quick video about

469
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.480
what we experienced a while back. I think it was

470
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.160
maybe about a few weeks two or three weeks after

471
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.480
that we had encountered we had this vocalization projected as

472
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.920
and I had a couple of people on my group

473
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.359
page and on Facebook reach out to me and say, hey, like,

474
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.960
I've heard about that area, and I've heard of people

475
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:50.039
experiencing vocals. I've heard people experiencing somebody something flanking them.

476
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.680
So there has been at least a couple of people

477
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:56.680
that reached out to me and had told me that, yeah,

478
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.000
this area has had some things happening. Now these are

479
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.480
not documented sightings or encounters at all, but the fact

480
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.720
that people knew the area, knew what I was talking about,

481
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.799
knew where we were, and said I've been there and

482
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.720
yeah it's sus and but I also have heard so

483
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.160
and so had this happened to them? Or so and

484
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.839
so had this happened to them out in that area?

485
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.880
And that kind of solidified it for me as far

486
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:28.119
as it being somewhat active. And you know, at that time,

487
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.400
we had never had anything happen to us like that. Ever,

488
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.720
I'd never had anything to happen to me. You know

489
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.160
why when these things happened to you, you can sit

490
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.759
there and think about you almost think about life in

491
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:44.119
a way. You're like, what my belief system? What? What

492
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.759
have I believed? What have I been believing in? Like

493
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.920
this is just this is insane, Like I can't match

494
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:54.240
this vocal up to anything that's indigenous to our area.

495
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:58.960
So it was very, very intense, and my wife was

496
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.079
pretty shook it up. But I think that gave us

497
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.119
more ammunition to go back out and try to pursue

498
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:10.359
maybe another interaction of some sort, we'll see. I've yet

499
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.680
to have anything happen in that area yet, But again,

500
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.960
I do know this interaction of these creatures is very rare.

501
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:20.039
It's not something that just you just walk out in

502
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.519
the wood that just happens. It doesn't happen like that.

503
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:28.000
I think being diligent and being consistent is the key

504
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:32.480
factor here with that area. So that's what we're hoping for.

505
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.440
Maybe another interaction of some sort. I don't know.

506
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.680
So when you go out there, do you have pieces

507
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:44.079
of equipment out with you trying to capture audio or

508
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.680
do you have cameras with you? Things like that big

509
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.279
for society who will be right back after these messages?

510
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.759
What I come equipped with our audio recorders. I have

511
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:15.160
not deployed an audio recorder out there yet, only because

512
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:20.119
I am very Number one, these things are expensive, and

513
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.079
number two, I really I don't know. I don't know

514
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.720
if you say I'm just just I'm not slow in

515
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.000
deploying these things. I really want to make sure that

516
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:34.599
I find a good spot and really get a good

517
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:39.319
understanding of the topography of the area as well, which

518
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.759
I have been studying for a while now, and I

519
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.240
have not deployed anything yet, but that is something that

520
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:49.240
I'm going to do. And I really believe that this

521
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:54.559
area that we have been going out and documenting is active,

522
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.799
and I have a feeling that I have a feeling

523
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:05.039
that there it's a whole different situation at night. I

524
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.240
really do I see to find the right spot to

525
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.680
deploy that voice recorder. I do have game cams. Frustrating

526
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.200
thing about game cams is that I really feel like

527
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.319
these creatures can see IR and I think that just

528
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.079
tips them off. And I think if you really want

529
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.960
to stop activity, put out some game cams. It'll put

530
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.079
it to a home. And this is something I'm basing

531
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:32.400
off of several different researchers that I have talked to

532
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:38.240
and other eyewitness accounts and interviews as well. So I

533
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.680
think the key thing here for me is to focus

534
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.319
on the audio, and that's where we're going to go

535
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.079
with that particular area.

536
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.279
I think that's a great idea. Besides this one area,

537
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:55.640
have people been reaching out to about things they've encountered

538
00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:00.640
from other parts of the county and San Antonio as well.

539
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:06.720
I have not had anybody come out and let me

540
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.880
know about their encounters. Oh, actually, you know what No,

541
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.279
I take that back, Deremiah. There was. There was a lady,

542
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.640
seventy two year old woman, very nice lady. She had

543
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:22.559
an encounter back in two thousand and five. I interviewed

544
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.559
her about Oh gosh, I want to say about five

545
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.920
months ago. Five months ago, she sat down and talked

546
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.680
to me over the phone. She didn't want to be recorded,

547
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.480
so I had to I had to write everything down

548
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:41.440
on a notebook. And she had described a sasquatch that

549
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.000
is sure she believed was a sasquatch that stood up

550
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.720
and walked in front of them in an area that

551
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.839
was a part of that Creek green belt that there's

552
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.039
a lot of creek, just so you know, goes all

553
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.920
the way north outside of San Antonio, but the southern

554
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.319
part of that Salado Creek goes all the way down

555
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:11.400
into all other towns in South Texas. It's a very long,

556
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:16.559
vast creek. And alongside of that creek you also have

557
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.599
what's called the Medina River, and the Medina River runs

558
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.400
a little close to some of that creek as well.

559
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.799
And so she was at an area and she described

560
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.519
me she was out there in her car with her sister,

561
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.960
and her sister had her daughter in law with her

562
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.279
as well. They were trying to get some fresh air

563
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.279
and hang out, and they went to an area that's

564
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.759
known as a Donkey Lady Bridge. And if you know

565
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.759
about Donkey Lady Bridge, it's a San Antonio. He's going

566
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.480
to say folklore if there's this bridge out there. It's

567
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.640
a little bit outside of San Antonio on the southern end,

568
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.000
and it's said that if you go out there at

569
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.200
night and I forgot what type of ritual yet to

570
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.960
do or something, you could hear like cliffs walking across

571
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.880
this bridge, and you could hear something like a donkey

572
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.280
and that scares people, and so people come out there

573
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:12.639
to try to get into some of that stuff. And

574
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.760
I think it's fun or whatever. But this particular time

575
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.800
that she was out there was during the day, wasn't

576
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.320
at night, and she went across the bridge, parked a

577
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.360
car in an area where I think there was more

578
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.480
of an open field with some trees, and they were

579
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.280
looking out into this area and she noticed a particular

580
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:40.320
tree where she saw a hand and arm come around

581
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.920
this tree grab it, and something stood up peeked out

582
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:51.800
behind the tree and then walked out away from that tree,

583
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.480
and she said it was a sasquatch. She described it

584
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.000
as female because she saw the breasts on this particular creek.

585
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.519
She had described the hair as being a I think

586
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.920
a dark brown, dark reddish long hair that was probably

587
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.960
about three or four inches long. Off of the creature,

588
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.320
she said, it locked eyes with her and it walked.

589
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.840
She said, it walked exactly Patty did. It walked just

590
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.599
like that, just turning around and staring at them and

591
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.239
just kept on walking. And it went behind some type

592
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.320
of a shed. There's a lot of ranches and stuff

593
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.599
that are out there, and so you'll have you know,

594
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.400
different various like little buildings and sheds and things like that.

595
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.119
Some of these ranches, I think that's what they were.

596
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:37.960
I think there was that was an area where there

597
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.320
was some type of private property where this creature is

598
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.280
walking through, and it went behind the shed, she said,

599
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.360
and it just it never came back out. She's either

600
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.400
it disappeared or it just went behind that shed and

601
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.719
just stayed there. And she described it to a tee

602
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.400
and it lined up with a lot of encounters that

603
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.800
I've heard as far as the color of the hair,

604
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.599
the mannerisms, the way this thing walked. All of these things,

605
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.280
and it just lined up and she said, it locked

606
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.960
eyes with me. And you know, as soon as it

607
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.840
locked eyes with me, my sister and her daughter in

608
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.599
law just came on glue. They were freaking out, like

609
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.960
you need to go get you know, start the car,

610
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:21.760
we need to go with you. They were freaking out

611
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.920
and she pros and she was just staring at this thing.

612
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.960
So that was probably one of the only encounters that

613
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.679
I have had anybody come out and talk to me

614
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.559
about whether or not there have been anymore, I have

615
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.440
yet to find out, because you know, and you know

616
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.480
as well as I do people, you know, they're reluctant

617
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:49.000
to talk about their encounters because there's ridicule, there's you know, PTSD.

618
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.679
Maybe it wasn't a good encounter at all, you know,

619
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.199
and these people are scared to death to talk about

620
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.920
and relive this stuff. This lady was gracious enough to

621
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.679
tell me about her and counter and so I'm hoping

622
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.159
that I can get back out in that area. I've

623
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.000
been talking to her a little bit here and there

624
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.280
to see if I can get her back out to

625
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.559
where I can video and have her recall what happens.

626
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.000
I'm hoping to do that hopefully this year or maybe

627
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:19.960
next year, but that was probably one of the more

628
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.800
I want to say class A siding that I've heard

629
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.159
of in my area. I don't know. I mean, we

630
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.159
have encounters that date back to the seventies though, you know,

631
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:33.000
so you've got the Olivari family back in nineteen seventy two.

632
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:36.119
They lived up against a wooded area that was close

633
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.360
to an air force base called Kelly Air Force Base,

634
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.960
and they saw this creature walking by their backyard. In

635
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.239
this heavily wooded area. The neighbor next door had a

636
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:51.880
juvenile that was sitting on her back porch back porch steps.

637
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.920
She looked out of her kitchen window at the back

638
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.320
porch and saw this hairy little creature sitting on her

639
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.280
steps and told it to leave and shoot it away.

640
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.719
It got up and ran off, and this was actually

641
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.840
documented in the local newspaper as well. We do have

642
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.519
a history of sightings and encounters with these creatures. The

643
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.000
only one that I have heard of that was you

644
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:18.440
know what I described was with that particular lady I

645
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:19.920
think was around two thousand and five.

646
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:28.559
That Donkey Lady Bridge account is just fascinating. Have you

647
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.920
ever thought yourself is a visual something that you would

648
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.840
like to experience yourself.

649
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.239
What's funny. I remember being on the show with you

650
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.039
the first time, and I remember telling you distinctively, I

651
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:49.039
don't think I want an encounter, which was I had

652
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.039
no idea why I said that, because I was thinking

653
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:56.440
about just encounters from other people where they were just

654
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.599
they were scary. And I'm sitting there going the field

655
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.239
and I don't want to see this thing, Like why

656
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:08.599
is that? You know, as I've progressed in my research

657
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.159
and documentation things like that. Yeah, I would love to

658
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.400
see one. I would love to see one probably about

659
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.400
five hundred yards away. Maybe give me a good running

660
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.760
start away from this thing. But yeah, I think I would.

661
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.840
I think I would like to see or encounter one

662
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.159
of these creatures. And you know what, here's the thing.

663
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.559
I think, you know, maybe I have. These creatures are

664
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.400
very cunning, they're very they know how to camouflage. They're

665
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:40.280
the master of camouflaging. Of they're the apex predator out there.

666
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.679
So maybe I had passed right by one of them

667
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.679
in one of my areas and never knew it. But yeah,

668
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.360
I think I would like to I think a glance

669
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:54.000
at one of these things, so I've changed my mind.

670
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.079
There you go, There you go. It's been a while. Hey,

671
00:39:57.320 --> 00:39:59.960
that's us. I hope that you do have something happen

672
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:01.880
and down there, and I think if you keep going

673
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.599
out with your wife like you you've been doing, there's

674
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.880
a big chance that you may the whole be careful.

675
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.480
What you wish for is what people told me over

676
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.440
the last few years and probably say the same back

677
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.239
back towards you as well. But man, I would say,

678
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.800
if people are listening, and it's crazy how many people

679
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:26.320
listen to this thing. It's wild just the people that

680
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.599
reach out. Man, never thought that kind of person would

681
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.360
listen to this, which is great. But I'm sure there'll

682
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.519
be more than a few people that we'll see. I'll

683
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.679
have San Antonio, Texas on the cover, and maybe they

684
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:42.400
have things they've experienced in this area. And I would

685
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.639
really recommend You're always welcome to reach out to me.

686
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:48.840
But the cool thing about Rod is he's an individual

687
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:53.599
that this is his base in San Antonio area and

688
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.039
Beart County, and so he's the type of guy that

689
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.039
you would want to reach out to in order to

690
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.639
make sure that he knows what areas are the hot

691
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.320
areas and maybe he can even talk to you directly

692
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.400
and start to find other areas besides the one he's

693
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.440
currently focusing on as well. So is there a way

694
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.199
that people can reach out to you roun?

695
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:22.480
Yeah, I'm on all the socials Instagram, Bear Canny, Bigfoot, TikTok,

696
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:26.079
Bear Canny, Bigfoot. I do have a private group on Facebook,

697
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.360
which is again Bear Canty Bigfoot. I also have two

698
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.440
other pages that I have acquired. One of them is

699
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.960
called Bigfoot one oh one and the other one is

700
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:40.039
called South Texas Monster Hunter. So I've got three different groups,

701
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.960
three different pages on Facebook as well. And I'll say this.

702
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.800
You know what I tell people San Antonio, Texas a

703
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.920
lot of times, it's no, there's no way Sasquatch would

704
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.800
in San Antonio. And my response to that is really like,

705
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.800
you're gonna put these creatures in a box and go

706
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.440
There's no way. There's no way they could be there.

707
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:06.880
There's no way they could be you know, they can

708
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.199
go through this creek or through suburban areas. These creatures

709
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.360
are opportunistic, they really are. They're not above dumpster diving,

710
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:18.159
They're not above getting an easy meal. The area that

711
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.719
the I research is off of the Salado Creek again.

712
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.639
But the really interesting part about this ceremiah is that

713
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.920
San Antonio literally sits on top of an underground cavern.

714
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.920
In fact, we get our water from what's called the

715
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.320
Edwards Underground Aquafer, and it is an underground cavern where

716
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:40.400
we get our water. Now, the Edwards Underground Aquifer literally

717
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.159
stretches from San Antonio to Austin. That's about what seventy

718
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.239
five eighty miles from San Antonio Austin. That is a

719
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:53.360
big underground cavern. The working theory that they have is

720
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.880
this they utilize the Salada Creek as their highway to hunt.

721
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.320
I believe this hunting is done mostly at night. And

722
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.679
we've got tons of white tail deer that are out

723
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.000
there very healthy, and there's no hunting in these areas,

724
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.679
so they are healthy and looking good. So you've got

725
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:17.559
a great food source in the form of this whitetail deer. Also,

726
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.679
we've got several water sources that run alongside this creek

727
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:26.159
as well. But also too that the most northern part

728
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.800
of this creek, it goes right into a military base

729
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.360
that has a vast, thick open area. Again, if we're

730
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.559
talking about Apex predator that is a master of masking

731
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.480
and camouflaging. I can they're probably going up in this

732
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.440
area and you would never know where to look because

733
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:51.880
it is so thick, it is so vast. But also two,

734
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.039
that area is what's called the Edwards Underground Aquipa recharge zone,

735
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.559
and that is where when it rains, that is where

736
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.559
we grab some of our water. I have a theory

737
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:09.519
that these things may be residing underground. They come out

738
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.440
at night, do their hunting off of this creek, get

739
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:17.960
their killed, come back, go back underground. Now again, it's

740
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.519
a theory. I have not been able to find an

741
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.519
opening that is big enough. But I do know that

742
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.119
there are caves back there. I just haven't been able

743
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.119
to get out there in those sticker areas yet to

744
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.400
discover that. And I'm hoping that I do.

745
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.480
Man, wouldn't it be something if someone reached out because

746
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.559
of this as Hey I've seen him go into the

747
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:43.119
caves or I had a sighting right next to that

748
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.880
military base, man Rod, I got a feel and some

749
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.239
crazy stuff might come out of this interview, and I

750
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.239
hope it does for you.

751
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.880
I think so, And I think that if you're somebody

752
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.079
that wants to reach out. Please do. There's no judgment

753
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.519
with me at all. If you think it's outrageous a weird,

754
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.599
I want to hear about it. My philosophy on this

755
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:05.679
is that if you're open to some of it, you

756
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.360
have to be open to all of it. You really do.

757
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.400
I think that's a great way to look at it.

758
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.440
You got to have an open mind and not put

759
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.000
it in a box, but may have rod What a

760
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:25.639
fun conversation about an area we don't really talk about

761
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.400
a lot. But you are doing some great work, really

762
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.639
getting into it, getting your whole family involved, and I

763
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:35.000
love it big for society. Will be right back after

764
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:55.199
these messages. Do you have any closing words? As we

765
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.840
start to wrap up our time here tonight.

766
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.760
I'm just going to say this, there's a reason why

767
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.719
we've got Aarond's that lives in San Antonio from small

768
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.960
town monsters. He lives here, Ken Gerhard lives here. Ryan

769
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:14.480
Edwards lives here. I'm very blessed that I've got friends

770
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.559
that I can reach out that live in the same

771
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:21.079
city and bounce ideas off and ask questions. I'm very

772
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.320
blessed in that area. And so when you think of

773
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:29.239
San Antonio, there's activity going on. I guarantee you there is.

774
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:34.360
And my part of what I try to convey is

775
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.880
don't leave us out because we've got stuff going on

776
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.440
here too as well. And just because again it's a

777
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:43.960
big city or it's a you know, a city that's

778
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.639
growing that there couldn't be any type of activity crypto

779
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.039
wise going on. I beg to differ. I really do

780
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.400
you know. I would say, hey, come out, talk to me,

781
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:55.559
get a hold of me. I would love to hear

782
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:57.519
your stories. I would love to talk to you.

783
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.440
Awesome, Rod. Thank you for coming back on the show,

784
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.199
and we'll have to definitely stay in touch. Let me

785
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:08.119
know if there's any updates from your research in the future,

786
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.159
and we'll have to talk to you again out a

787
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:10.719
later time.

788
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.880
Man. I appreciate you, and I appreciate your time, and

789
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.400
I have so much respect for what you do, Jeremiah,

790
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.760
and again, kudos to you man for making this a

791
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.199
full time thing and putting in all the hard work.

792
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.599
And I think more good things to come in your way. Brother.

793
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.639
Thank you, Rod face you had going on there, but

794
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.920
it's to you whatever you do. Okay, yeah, listen, I'm

795
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.960
doing for twenty five years. I haven't seen I can

796
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.719
be saved. But you know what, I've been through mostly

797
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:44.079
every fourso area from New Hampshire all the way over

798
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:48.920
to Oregon, Washington. See, no I've been. But listen. This

799
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.480
year for the first time, I'm me and my infinite wisdom.

800
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:51.719
Right.

801
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.559
It was late winter time. I was in Wyoming. Let

802
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.119
me get the mapouts I could be. I was out

803
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.280
of the exact spot. I have this vivid map of

804
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.000
the United States in my head. I don't I could

805
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:05.000
travel everywhere out of map, but I don't want to

806
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.440
get this exact spot. Maybe somebody else would call it right,

807
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.760
So listen I had in that month of March, I

808
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.079
was out in Actually I was out in Lander shut

809
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.239
down for about last year was about three days. And

810
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.440
in this year, late in the year, shutdown for about

811
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.400
three day in Landers, and we sat there. I was

812
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.199
speaking with some guys that worked for the Department of

813
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:31.000
Whatever Wildlife, the National Parks. These guys make the snowmobile routes. Okay,

814
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.320
so I figured I had asked about Bigfoot. They laughed

815
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.920
at me, which it doesn't hurt my feelings because I'm

816
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.480
never going to stop asking what I believe in something,

817
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.760
or I think something is in my brain just hitting it,

818
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.280
and I think it's possible in reality. Whatever it is,

819
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.519
I'll hit it and look for it. But anyways, I

820
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.079
come over to Warland. I think it was in either

821
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:57.480
Warland or Thermopolis. But I was loading twice empty PEPSI

822
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.159
soda cans going to server distribute around the nation. Right,

823
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.480
So me and my infinite wisdom this one trip, I

824
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.519
didn't want to go all the way back south and

825
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:11.440
grab iya. What is it? I eighty, So I said,

826
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.639
it's about two o'clock. If I can make it a

827
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.360
big horn. I had never been to that stretch. I'm

828
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.800
always trying to do stupid stuff like this, right, But

829
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:21.719
being an experienced truck driver, I know what I can

830
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:25.719
handle when out of this other guy was speaking about Cortes.

831
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.719
I'm very five point fifty. Going up Cortes is amazing,

832
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.480
but as a truck driver, you don't want to do

833
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.880
that in winter. So anyways, I'm coming to a big horn,

834
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:34.519
and you know, I look at the map, I look

835
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.880
at Aki whether it looks like it's great. So I

836
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.880
come up the freaking mountain and I'm thinking, if I

837
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.079
could just make it over the top by three point fifteen,

838
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.880
I'll be over it and I can land on the

839
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.159
other side. And in I it was a great mistake.

840
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:52.000
I put myself in this situation where I had to

841
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.400
call my son. I always call my kids. They're already

842
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.079
young adults. So every time I find myself in a

843
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.440
bad situation, I'll call my one of my kids and

844
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.360
I'm listening, this is where I'm at, And I don't

845
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.480
call you back in thirty minutes. You might want to

846
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:06.760
call state troopers to look for me up there, because

847
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.599
I didn't make it across. And so obviously when you

848
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.400
get up top of these peaks, you learn as a

849
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.639
truck driver that whatever the weather was like down closer

850
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:17.960
to which is not sea level, but the lower you

851
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.159
are whatever two thousand and three thousand feet at above

852
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.280
sea level, it's nothing like what you're going to be

853
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.920
at forty five hundred feet five thousand. Me, in my

854
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.400
infinite wism, like, yeah, coming up Big Horn Mountains, it

855
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.519
was a great scenery coming all the way up. I

856
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.559
was light, so it wasn't really a scary issue because

857
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.159
I'm newly kind about heavy, So I was light. I

858
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.159
make it at the top of the mountain, but at

859
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.719
the ratest feed I was going because it wasn't snowing,

860
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.760
but all the snow that had fallen was drifting into

861
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.719
the road. But it was already about twenty two degrees

862
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.440
twenty five degrees, so it was freezing on the road

863
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.760
at this time. And of course the way the sun

864
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.920
is setting as you're coming up this I believe it's

865
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:02.800
Highway fourteen. I want to see it's hold on because

866
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.320
I'm not no, I'm lying it's Highway sixteen or fifteen,

867
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.280
whatever it is. But anyways, well, I'm coming up this

868
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.760
highway right and the sun's setting, of course says to

869
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.280
the west. So as you're coming up this highway, the

870
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.960
highest peak of the mountain sits to your left. Because

871
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.559
I'm trying to hit eye ninety, so I'm basically going

872
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:22.920
well north or actually east, So the sun's hitting the road,

873
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.840
it's freezing the snow that's drifting over. When I get

874
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.519
to the high I already call my son let them know,

875
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.360
you know, I don't make it across in about an hour,

876
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.159
I'm gonna easy to do something for me. So and

877
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.400
just because I do signal and I can't reach somebody,

878
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.159
because it's happened before but i get to the top

879
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:41.400
of the mountain, the highest peak of the mountain, and

880
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.719
I'm just glad the sun isn't all the way down

881
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.840
because we're not hitting fifteen cove degrees whatever it is.

882
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.000
But as I'm going to the top of the mountain,

883
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.840
something went across from the lower point from the right

884
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:57.599
over to the left. The size of the footprints and

885
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.239
I've heard because I've never seen bigfoot tracks. I've never

886
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.119
gone out on team. There's a lot of people in

887
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.480
New Mexico off that sixty highway all that stuff, and

888
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.159
looks our closest for us is Riadols from New Mexico

889
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.559
Mescilero Mountains whatever. But I've never done this, you know.

890
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.440
I'm just been truck driving. That's what I've been doing.

891
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.760
But besides, these footpriens were enormous and I can see

892
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.239
him from far away as because at this if you

893
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.440
contemplate on the weather and the way the road condition is,

894
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.639
I'm not going to do over twenty miles an hour,

895
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:24.719
but I'm going to be staying at twenty miles an

896
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.559
hour because that's my experience. I handed my vehicle as

897
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:31.880
I'm hitting these tracks. It's amazing. Look and I've heard

898
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.079
bear tracks step. The bear kind of steps right over

899
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:40.280
its own foot, so they look enormous. But the spread

900
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.360
between each track must have been about and I never

901
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.519
got off My vehicle must have been about six feet apart.

902
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:48.880
That's just a sitting at the top of my rig.

903
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.800
As I'm coming by, and I see this set of

904
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.079
tracks going over the road and then it went over

905
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.079
a parkbere friends must have been about four and a

906
00:52:56.119 --> 00:53:00.800
half if feet tall. The way the tracks look going

907
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.880
over the road over the barbed wire, seems like it

908
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:09.239
was Andre the giant went over that rope the rescue room.

909
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.239
It just it looked like Andy went. I thought to

910
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.480
myself it must have been a bear. But because I'm

911
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.719
a fearful person and I believe in my instinct, I

912
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.480
didn't stop. I didn't want to stop and take a picture.

913
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.440
But I said, if it is what I think it is,

914
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.760
do I want to be caught off my vehicle. I

915
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.920
see conditions and then risking, and my vehicle is not

916
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.519
going to have the traction I already have. I might,

917
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:33.360
I'm not stupid. I'm not going to put myself in

918
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:35.320
a situation. So these people want to be in the

919
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:37.679
ranch or go wherever they are. What are you going

920
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.360
to do in front of one of these creatures? Pray

921
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.920
to God, that's about the last thing you have. So

922
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.599
I drove by it. I looked at it. So when

923
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.880
I got over to Buffalo, there's a little truck stop,

924
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.079
I said, you hitigh ninety right before high night. I

925
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.079
think it's a sinkler or whatever it is. There's a

926
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:57.320
young man in there. So I go in there, warm

927
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.960
up soup whatever. It's cold night. I'm glad I made

928
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.079
it down the mountain. I call my son. And when

929
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:05.159
I walk into that truck stop, asked a young kid.

930
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:08.199
I'm like, listen, I have a question. How you lived verreous?

931
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:08.400
Yeah?

932
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.119
I lived time of my life. I'm like, do you hunt? Yeah,

933
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.960
of course it's Buffalo. We aren't here. That's what we

934
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.199
so a girl do. And I'm like, listen, is there

935
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:18.519
a bear? Is bear? Are there bears out there right now?

936
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:23.000
He said, there's bears, but there's no bears. It's mid March,

937
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.280
late March. They don't come out to about late April

938
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:28.760
at hibernation. I'm like, wow, I never took that. Next,

939
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.079
I'm from the desert. I don't know this stuff. I

940
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.360
never took it into perspective. I'm like, are you serious?

941
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:35.679
So at this time, there's two hunters walking in right,

942
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.559
and he goes, why is that. I'm like, dude, I've

943
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.639
seen some tracks on top of Big Horn. I'm talking

944
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.840
about huge tracks and the spread which can eat each

945
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:48.679
footprint was just and I didn't stop and take pictures.

946
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:50.880
I'll tell you what I saw. He goes, yeah, but

947
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.840
there's no bears right now. I'm like, what about bigfoot?

948
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.360
And as I'm talking, I didn't realize these hunters were

949
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:58.679
griving coffee listening to me, right, they're a little older.

950
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.599
I am about thirty thirty five, and what I'm asking

951
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.960
me listen, where'd you see this again? I'm like, at

952
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.440
the highest point of the Bighorn Mountains, coming up this

953
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.000
highway whatever, sixteen fifty whatever it was, Jeremiah, they did

954
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.280
not hesitate. They didn't They grabbed their coffee, they paid

955
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.039
for it, and they ran out that way. Now, this

956
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:24.679
is the thing. Whatever made these tracks, I firmly believe

957
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:28.519
they were not hoax is because the way the snow drifts,

958
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.599
the way as you step on snow, I would have

959
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.239
seen somebody else's tracks. Like if there was people faking

960
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.400
these tracks. You would have been able to see these

961
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:41.360
tracks all around these big footprints. Whatever did these prints like?

962
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.119
It was just amazing. That's the only thing I've seen now.

963
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.039
On a different occasion down by grape Mine, I was

964
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.320
at the Pilot truck stop in California close to where

965
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.440
these people were just talking about this whatever. Right, there's

966
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.519
some guys that US Department of forestryt this is back

967
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:58.360
in twenty twenty two, twenty three, I want to say,

968
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.000
early twenty three, late twenty two. I was up in

969
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.840
the Lincoln National Forest and I didn't see anything. I

970
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.880
didn't whatever. I just felt there's this eerie feeling. Like

971
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.199
I'm telling you I've been through all these forests, there's

972
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:14.960
an eerie feeling there up on that US Highway twenty

973
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:18.760
in Oregon leading up to Portland. Dude, that is amazing.

974
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:24.639
Forestry and Bigfoot lives somewhere. That's the perfect area now,

975
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:27.760
Lincoln National Force and other I mean, I've been through Osamite,

976
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.719
I've been to Yellowstone, I've been through I can time.

977
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.599
There's only one other spot that i'd been that I

978
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.079
didn't know existing after all these years. Are driving was

979
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:40.039
coming in from Wisconsin for the Madison area. I didn't

980
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.679
know you could reach over to Michigan through the Top Park.

981
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:44.800
I didn't know that existed. So when I did go

982
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:48.400
through there and I see these big old wood carvings

983
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:52.440
that people made of Bigfoot, that's another area that you know,

984
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:56.599
what if that beast exists, that's a perfect area. But anyways,

985
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.039
back to my grape mind story. Two kids from years

986
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:01.840
at comp kid because younger than thirty years old, right,

987
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.960
so they got the US Apartment of fesheet. I asked

988
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:07.840
him that out. I'm like, listen, guy, I can you

989
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.320
ask you a question like what same way I asked

990
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.039
these other people that work for us of making these

991
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.639
snowmobile routes and myami as these guys in the US

992
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.159
Apartment of Forest, I'm like, do you guys believe in Bigfoot?

993
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.840
Is there something in the end One of them jumps

994
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:26.199
up and without no ridicule to my comment, his eyes

995
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:29.880
open up and he says, listen. I was stationed up

996
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:34.639
in the Lincoln National Park for about two years. He said,

997
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.039
I'm gonna tell you one thing. I don't know if

998
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:41.519
it's Bigfoot, but there's something up on those mountains. And

999
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:45.000
it was so severe that we couldn't go out on

1000
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:46.840
our own. We had to have a partner with us

1001
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.000
at all times. That's all he said. But by the

1002
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:53.159
look in his face and then the other one, I

1003
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.039
guess they had just been the sign of the same

1004
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.199
area recently. The other one talked about Mendocino. I don't

1005
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.000
know if you've heard about Mendosino, but it's it reminds

1006
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:03.440
me a lot of that organ stretch. And he also

1007
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:06.280
had an encounter in Mendocino, and he said that same situation.

1008
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.480
There's a there was a moment in Mendocino where they

1009
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:10.239
had to go out in groups. They couldn't go out

1010
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:12.800
on their own, and it wasn't safe for them, especially

1011
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.280
at night. Could have been a cool or whatever. But

1012
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:18.400
the way he touched on the topic, he never mentioned

1013
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.519
a feline. He'd never mentioned a bear, as the other

1014
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.000
one mentioned about Lincoln National Force and whatever. It was

1015
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:28.440
something that they don't know, explained. He emphasized that in

1016
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:33.440
Mendocino they encountered something similar, and that's about it. And

1017
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.360
it's just that's all I have to say about that topic.

1018
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.559
It's and I'm hoping one of these days, like I'm

1019
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.199
traveling through all his sores. But then I hear these

1020
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:44.639
stories the way Big Food would just sit there and

1021
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:46.679
clumped himself down and he'll look like a tree truck.

1022
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:49.039
I'm not going to see him going through a highway

1023
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.119
at forty five miles an hour. Probably not. But these

1024
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.159
eerie feelings you get all through Oregon Washington, it's just amazing.

1025
00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:59.760
There's something you could feel it. And like people say,

1026
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.199
there's the instinct that we have the survival instinct mechanism,

1027
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.840
and I believe it, and hopefully you get encounter. I've

1028
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.320
been hearing these Iowa encounters. Oh and I had one

1029
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:10.760
more thing I wanted to tell you. When I gave

1030
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.519
you my number on email, you had a gentleman talking

1031
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.360
about and this is so weird because I thought we're

1032
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.079
his spatting. My family's been We've been around the real

1033
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.119
grand for over one hundred years. I used to hear

1034
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.719
my great grandmother when this I think it was Brown

1035
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.880
Dwarf talking about how his grandparents or his grandpa TJ.

1036
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:31.920
Took a lot of knowledge with him when they passed away. Right,

1037
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:36.599
my great grandparents used to talk about a big ball

1038
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:40.079
of fire moving through the hills in the Mountains because

1039
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.239
we're at the base of the Rocky Mountains, right. They

1040
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:47.280
talked about this ball of fire moving, and it signified

1041
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:51.880
there was a treasure. I had never heard somebody out

1042
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:55.880
of our culture as this one guy from Oklahoma did

1043
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:57.960
about a month ago. I know, I forget his names.

1044
00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:59.920
I don't pay potentially these names, but he was talking

1045
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.119
about Oklahoma. I think he's a forget the name of

1046
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.920
their tribe, but he's a tribal person. Bear Creek I

1047
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:10.760
believe it was Bear Creek Nation. Maybe that's in Minnesota

1048
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:12.440
or Consent. I'm not sure, but I think he said

1049
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.440
it is Bear Creek they're talking about. He was talking

1050
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:19.440
about he thought Bigfoot was taking care of some kind

1051
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:23.400
of treasure that the Spaniards might have left behind, and

1052
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:27.760
these orbs or balls of fire always came about where

1053
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:31.280
these treasures were at. It's insane because my great grandparents

1054
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:37.280
would talk about that, and hearing somebody else from over

1055
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:42.519
eight hundred miles away talk about the same topic. Now,

1056
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.440
there's no doubt in my mind my great grandparents weren't crazy.

1057
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:46.599
There's a lot of things you don't. We want to

1058
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.000
think they're crazy because they're older people that have no

1059
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:52.519
technology in their heads, and all they know is basic

1060
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.559
roots of truth. They knew how to cure you from

1061
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.719
disease by taking you in an animal stalls like the

1062
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:02.679
gold stalls or the cow stars. And now we realize

1063
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:07.519
that having exposure to this positive bacteria creates enzymes, thing

1064
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.519
these positive enzymes that actually boost your immune system. These

1065
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:16.320
people were actually very nature savvy. But this story about

1066
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.719
the balls of fire, this gentleman from Oklahoma talked about

1067
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:21.599
just really triggered me. And I had to comment to you,

1068
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.159
let you know what your mind. He's onto something. I

1069
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:26.159
don't know what he's onto, but I remember these stories

1070
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:28.519
from my great grandparents, my grandparents, and my mom. They

1071
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.159
all passed away already, but I couldn't remember these stories

1072
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.880
of a ball of fire. And all my friends all

1073
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:36.800
around in the Pastor, Texas area, they all know about this.

1074
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.840
The people that grew up and have grandparents that grew

1075
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.199
up in that area, we all know about this story

1076
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:45.960
about balls. And it all goes back to Panchovia. Banchovilla

1077
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:49.199
is a Mexican revolutionary right and supposed he stole a

1078
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.000
lot of money from the riches like the Peter pan

1079
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.159
If you will took a lot of money from the

1080
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.199
rich and gave it to the poor. But a lot

1081
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.679
of this money, fortune, treasure, whatever you're gonna call it,

1082
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.840
he couldn't carry it in these carriages or horses and mules.

1083
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.840
S had to bury it and come back for it later.

1084
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:06.840
But as the US military hunting of downs were in

1085
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.000
parad or whatever it was in Chiuauan, he was never

1086
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:13.280
able to come back for these treasures hidden fortunes. And

1087
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:16.519
supposedly that's where you see these balls of fire come out.

1088
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.360
Be it makes sense. Ian you have some kind of element,

1089
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.840
like some kind of mineral like iron or whatever, under

1090
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:27.079
zero oxygen circumstances, buried in the ground, they might produce

1091
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.679
gas like h twists like oil. You know, I worked

1092
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.599
at the oil field, and this might produce a ball

1093
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.559
of fire eventually if you get the perfect spark or whatever.

1094
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:38.760
But I don't know. I'm not a scientists. I've wanted stuff.

1095
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.599
But it makes sense if you just take the root

1096
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.320
of what these people are talking about. And then now

1097
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:50.000
you get this guy from Oklahoma talking about the same scenario. Basically,

1098
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:54.199
it's just intriguing. Wow, all this time, I've been putting

1099
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:56.559
it on the side, thinking my great grandparents are crazy.

1100
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.760
But this guy just hid something that nobody should not

1101
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:03.840
our culture because that's farting. He just hit it. But yeah, Jeremiah,

1102
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:05.840
you've got a great scenario going on for everybody.

1103
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:06.199
Thank you.

1104
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.800
I'm you're going to take me all throughout. You have

1105
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:10.760
no idea how many miles I go because of you.

1106
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:11.920
I appreciate you and your phone.

1107
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.800
I appreciate that. That makes me feel really good. Man,

1108
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.599
You've got such a good thing going. You can travel

1109
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.440
all the Bigfoot spots and talk to people, and man,

1110
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:24.519
you're getting some good info. So I appreciate you sharing

1111
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.679
what you've experienced so far, and please keep me in

1112
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:30.920
the loop with what happens next out there.

1113
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.400
Yeah, well sure will Jeremain, you have a great weekend

1114
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:34.920
as leet. I'll let you do your thing. I'm all

1115
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.360
right dedicate so much time to us. I'm pretty sure

1116
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.079
you got a life and live it well and hopefully

1117
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:40.000
we can contact you later.

1118
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.679
You got to be safe out there, sir Artler. You're

1119
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.239
a big for society. Our goal is to provide a

1120
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:49.480
platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their

1121
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:53.440
encounter and a safe and respected environment. But we need

1122
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:56.760
to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you

1123
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:02.039
just can't explain, please send me an e at Bigfoot

1124
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:06.159
Soociety at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation.

1125
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:10.000
I know a lot of you have not shared your

1126
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:14.519
encounter at all. It's been twenty years, and it's time

1127
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.280
that you get this off your chest and then you

1128
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:19.559
can get some well deserved for rest because I know

1129
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:23.400
you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through,

1130
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:25.159
and I appreciate every one.

1131
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:29.800
Of you listening Bigfoot Society podcasts, hosted by our Captain

1132
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:35.440
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1133
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:38.800
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1148
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.840
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1149
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:39.119
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1150
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.599
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1151
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:48.639
Here's the list. These are all in Oregon, by the way, Oakridge,

1152
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:52.719
Dexter Fall Creek, to Shoot National Forest Area, Cultist Lake,

1153
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:57.960
Spirit Lake, Subtle Lake, Mackenzie River Area, Sweet Home Area,

1154
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.519
the area west of Crater Lake, east of two point

1155
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:04.559
thirty west Diamond Lake Highway, and north of sixty two

1156
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.599
Creator Lake Highway. You can use email Bigfoot Society at

1157
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:12.639
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1158
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1160
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1162
01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:31.920
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