Feb. 16, 2025

The River King | Washington

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Moe talks to host Jeremiah Byron and shares captivating details of her childhood encounters with Bigfoot near Granite Falls, Washington, around the mid-1970s. Moving to a remote log cabin in the mountains at a young...

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Moe talks to host Jeremiah Byron and shares captivating details of her childhood encounters with Bigfoot near Granite Falls, Washington, around the mid-1970s. Moving to a remote log cabin in the mountains at a young age, Mo recounts her first sighting of an eight-foot-tall, ape-like creature while fishing with her father at Emerald Pool. She vividly describes repeated nighttime visits of the creature around their home, eerie noises, and unsettling smells. Mo's detailed story spans multiple encounters over subsequent years, including a shocking discovery inside their own house. Tune in to hear Moe's compelling and eerie recounting of life amidst Bigfoot activity.

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All right, Big for Society. We've got the privilege of

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talking to Mo tonight. Mo's an individual that reached out

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through a YouTube comment and then thankfully we're able to

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be connected as I responded to that comment and Mo

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has agreed to come on the show to share what

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she's experienced over the years. So Mo, welcome to the show.

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I'm going to go ahead and give the floor over

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to you. Feel free to take us back to the

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time when all this stuff started happening For you, and

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I'll let you take it from here.

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All right. When I was a very little girl, sometime

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around nineteen seventy five, my parents decided to leave civilization

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and move up into the mountains. And I was about

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five years old, maybe six, and we moved up to

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a very very large, very beautiful log cabin of past

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Granite Falls, Washington, up by the sixteen mile markers, and

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we had no electricity. We poked on a wood stove

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and it was it was just very remote at the time.

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And there's a lot of people up there now, I think,

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but it was very different then. But yeah, one summer

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we'd been living up there, I think this was in

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seventy seven, and we'd been living there for a while

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and we had never heard our seat. We'd seen bears

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and things like that, but nothing else. And it was

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I believe it was June, and me and my father

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had decided to go and all the other kids were

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gone for the day and we decided to go and

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do something, and he wanted to. He decided it was

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time for me to learn how to fish. So we

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grabbed some poles and there was a place that we liked.

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Everybody liked to fish and It was about a mile

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walk from our house, and we crossed the road and

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go down a dry creek bed for about a mile

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and there was a bend in the still Iguamish River

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there that it pooled right there at the turn in

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the river, and we called it Emerald Pool. It was

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just a really beautiful spot and it was a rocky beach,

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and then on the other side there was a little

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waterfalls and a big cliff and the cliff was about

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i'd say fifty feet fifty feet tall, maybe a little taller.

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So we walked out there and it was a nice walk,

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and we set up our fishing poles and sat down

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to fish, and we were there for about two hours,

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and I did catch my first fish, and I saw

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my dad kind of stiffened and get a really strange

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look on his face and set up off the ground,

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off the rock he was sitting on, and I looked

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over towards the cliff where he was looking and standing

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there was At first I thought it was just a

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really big guy wearing lots of clothes, but I could

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see that my dad was terrified, and I mean he

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was just frozen, and so, you know, looking closer, I

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realized that this was way too big to be a man.

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It was probably close to eight feet tall, covered with

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brown hair, looked very ape like, and was staring down

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at us and my dad. I don't know what he

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was going through at the time, because he just couldn't move.

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He was just frozen. And he stood that way for

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a good couple of minutes. And I said, Dad, what

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is that? And he said, Honey, I don't know what

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that is. I think I know, but I don't know,

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and I think we need to leave. And I looked

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up and I took one last look at it, and

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it was standing there and it kind of had his

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hand on the trunk of a tree, and it was

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looking down at us, and I remember thinking how sad

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it looked. For some reason, it just seemed to have

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a very very sad look on its face. So me

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and my dad turned around and we walked back home

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as fast as we could. And I don't think it

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could have gotten to us unless it jumped off the

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cliff and waded through the river, but he was afraid.

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And we got back to the house, and that night

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we started hearing things around the outside of the house,

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and when we went to bed, at night, my mom

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would come into my bedroom and she would light the

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kerosene lantern and she would turn the wick up only

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so far so that way, within a couple of hours

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it would burn out. And I can remember that for Actually,

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for a lot of nights after that night, we would

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hear branches breaking, we would hear screaming, just howling that

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we had never heard before. Then I would hear breathing

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outside of my window and I would wake up and

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hear this, and I would be terrified, and because the

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lantern had burnt out in my room and it was

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completely dark in there. I can remember I would feel

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around the walls of my room because I had to

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get out of there because it was right outside my window,

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and I didn't know what it was, but I could

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tell it was big, and I had never heard anything

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like that before. And I would finally find the door,

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and then I'd run out into the living room and

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sleep on the couch that night, and I could still

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hear it, but the living room was two stories up,

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so it was you know, I felt a little safer there.

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And we started having things around our house being destroyed,

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like plant My mom had a garden, my dad had

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his own garden. We won't go into what he grew,

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but those would disappear as well. But it was just

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it was scary. It went on pretty much for the

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rest of the time that we lived there, which was

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a couple of years, and I do remember there were

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times when there was enough moonlight to shine light into

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my bedroom window and I could see something out there,

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and I could and it looked like what I saw

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up at emble Pool. And we also had a small

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house right next to our property, and it was the

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strangest little house because I don't know why it had

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been built where it had been built, but it was

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like surrounded by a pond. I don't know if the

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pond gathered there after the house was built, but it

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was a very old, little tiny cabin and above the

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door there was a little sign that said doctor Shivago.

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And we loved us kids loved to explore around in there.

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We weren't supposed to, but we really liked to. And

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I can remember when I would go in there, I

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would smell a smell that would take me back to

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the nights when you know, there's something outside my window,

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and I could hear it, and I could smell that's

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that strong, almost nose burning smell. And I can remember

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there was many times when I could smell that inside

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that cabin, and so we stopped playing in there, but

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it it went on for the next couple of years

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that we lived there. I can't even begin to describe

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the noises that it made. My dad would try and

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tell all the other kids that, you know, it was

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just a bear or acoumber or mountain lion or whatever,

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but I knew what it was, and I can remember

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my dad wanted me to keep what we had seen

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that day from my mom because my mom's scared easily.

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But after it started like showing up around our house

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in the at night, there was no way my mom

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wouldn't hear that and see those things herself. She was

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up late in the night. My mom always got up

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in the middle of the night for some reason for

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an hour or two, and she would see and hear

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things too, And she would always ask my dad, and

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you know, are you sure that's a bear? Are you

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it sounds so big? Are you sure that's a bear?

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And what is that smell? What is this smell I

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keep smelling around the house. Well, my dad finally told

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her what we had seen at Emerald Pool that day.

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And then we finally told we had a couple of

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neighbors up there, one that lived across the river and

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one that lived right across the road, and then we

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were the only ones up there. And so the guy

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who lived across the river, his name was Greg, and

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my dad went to him and talked to him about it,

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about what he had seen, and Greg started telling stories

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because Greg lived up in that little cabin that he

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lived in up there for most of his life, and

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he told us all sorts of stories about what he

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had seen and that there's many of them up there

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and that he had seen them all of his life.

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And yeah, that's that's about That's my story.

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Absolutely fascinating, Mo, thank you, thank you for sharing that.

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I definitely have a few questions for you, going back

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to when you had seen the one where its face

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made you think it was sad. Do you remember if

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there were certain details about the face that made you

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think that.

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Yeah, the eyes, it just seemed to have sad eyes,

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almost like it was grining.

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I don't know. I couldn't see tears. I was too

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far away. It just it looked like an old person

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who you see that was shouting or looking really sad

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or looking kind of in Its shoulders were slumped and

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it seemed to sigh a few times. And it's hard

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to explain. It just really looked like it did not

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want to see us there, but that it wasn't angry

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or violent. It was just it just looked sad. It

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had kind of a leathery face, brown leathery face, all wrinkly,

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and it just had a sad, scrench stuff looks on

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its face.

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What were the certain features that stood out to you

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as being more.

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Ape like the face, the hands From as far away

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as I mean, we weren't that far theo i'm o

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pool was actually very small, but the hands looked like

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an ape's hands, you know, back of the hair on

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the back of the hands, but none on the on

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the front sides. I couldn't really see its feet, so

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I don't know, but the hair was it was brown,

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but it was kind of an orange brown. And it

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just it had really long arms, kind of bold legs.

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It was just really ape like.

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Were you able to see any details about shape of

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the head or the neck at all?

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Yeah, The head reminded me of like a gorilla. Just

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darker skin, darker hair. But it looked a lot like

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a gorilla head. I couldn't see the back of it,

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but it did look like a gorilla head, and I

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do if I am remembering correctly, I could. I also think,

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I mean, in my memory, I think it was a

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male because I think I saw some of that too, gotcha.

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And there were no large breasts or anything.

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From what I can From what I can tell, grant

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it falls. There are not a lot of people at

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this time, so you're not having to worry about you know,

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is there a zoo and granite fall or is there

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wild animal Safari theme park? You know that there could

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have been a gorilla escape from nothing like that in

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the area, correct.

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No, No, it was a little tiny log in town.

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Absolutely. You know, when you would walk around the property

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after these nights where you would hear things outside, would

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you ever notice any footprints outside or anything out of

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the ordinary next to the house.

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You know, I don't think I ever really thought to look,

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because I was so young, But I remember my dad

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looking around the house after those nights, and I never really,

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you know, fully understood what he was looking for.

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But I think I know now he never really talked

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about it a lot. It was something that really scared him.

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He was one of those very skeptical people. He did

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not believe in anything out of the ordinary. Life was

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just very straightforward for him. So it's something that he

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just never really liked to talk about too much. But

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when he did talk about it, he agreed with me

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that about what it looked like and about that it

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had a sad look on its face. And when he

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finally started telling people about it, it just this thing

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happened that he always thought what happened. They told him

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it was crazy, except for, you know, our couple of

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friends up there on the mountain. But nobody ever believed us.

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My brothers and sisters barely believed us, even though they

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heard what went on outside. But at that time a

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lot of them were leaving home and going off on

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their own too, and it was pretty much just as

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little kids left. That makes sense.

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That makes sense. Did you and your father have a

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discussion about this when you're older it growed up as

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an adult, Actually, we.

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Had a discussion about it about well, less than a

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year ago. I talked to him about it. I wanted

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to talk. His mind was slipping and I wanted to

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talk to him about things before, you know, he passed

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away in September, and then my mom and we you know,

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I wanted to talk to him about it, and he

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just he said, I he goes. I saw him afterwards.

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I saw them after that. I don't know why we

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never saw them before. Maybe we just weren't looking, And

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we don't know why they started coming around our house

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after we did see them. We did see that one.

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I know that there was times when I would lay

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there and I would think, Oh, there's one outside the window.

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Big for society, who will be right back after these messages, And.

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Then I would realize there was more than one out

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by the window. We never had anything like a lot

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of people describe, no rocks thrown, nothing ever threatening. We

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never heard any strange languages or anything like that. Just

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a lot of heavy breathing. And then when they were

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a little farther from the house, screaming or kind of

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a woot sound at each other. I think I think

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there was more than one. They'd be rooting at each other.

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That's the only way I can describe it.

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But yeah, first off, I'm sorry to hear that you

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lost both of your parents. Recently. Is that is great?

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You were able to have that conversation with your father

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so recent before he did pass. Yeah, how long did

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they end up staying at that property.

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For two more years after that? We were there for

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about four years in total.

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Was there a thing that made them move where? It

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was just at the point that it's time to move on.

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It was time to move on. Living up there was

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becoming a little more than what my mother bargained for.

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Oh And my sister told me because I was telling

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her that I was doing this tonight, and she told

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me something that she had never told me before, and

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that was that once during the summer, and she said,

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this was about seventy seven, my grandparents had a little

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trailer that they lived in on our property in the

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last couple of years that we lived there. And one

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day she was walking towards the trailer and she was

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on one side of it, and my grandpa looked out

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the window and said, don't come around to the other

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side of the trailer, get your ass back in the house.

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And she's like whatever, And she walked around the side

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of the trailer and she saw, she said, she saw

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a bigfoot standing by the trailer and my grandpa had

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come over to the other side of the trailer, and

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he was looking out the window at her and at

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this thing standing there, and he said, get in the

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house now. And she turned around and she ran, and

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it watched her. He said, it watched her running, and

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then it turned her back around and looked at him

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and then just walked away. My grandpa never told me

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about this. I can remember my grandma mumbling something about

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it after she was you know, her mind was a

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little bit gone, But Grandpa didn't talk about a lot dreams,

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so I'm not real surprised he never said anything. But

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my sister was telling me about that today and I

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didn't even know about that.

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That is absolutely fascinating for you, just to learn that today.

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Was she able to describe what she saw and was

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it similar to what you described.

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Which she described exactly what I described, and I hadn't

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even described. You know, it's been a long time since

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I'd said anything. I don't even know if I'd ever

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talked to her much about it because my dad was

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so strange about it. But and you know, she was

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one of those oh there's bears out there, there's nothing

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out there until that day, so but she described it

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just like I described it. And she also said that

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when her and because the family across the road from us,

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they were the only other kids up there, but they

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had the same amount of kids as my parents, and

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we were all around the same age, so we each

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had kind of a buddy we hung out with. And

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her and their older kid, they were out playing with

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the weapons. I don't know who's but apparently, and this

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isn't another thing she told me today. I wasn't sure

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if I wasn't say anything about this or not, But

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apparently the neighbor boy fired at one in the woods

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and it scared her really bad. It ran away. I

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don't know what to think of that story. I I mean,

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I don't think my sister was why to me, but

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I wasn't, you know. I wasn't sure if I wanted

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to tell that one or not. But what the heck,

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we're here. But she said she had also smelled things

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in that cabin. When her and the neighbor boy would

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go in the little doctor Chivago cabin to be alone,

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they would smell that smell in there, and they would

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notice things, and she said she did see footprints occasionally.

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That's absolutely fascinating.

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My other family, my other family members, really, there's a

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couple that I really don't talk too much anymore, but

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so I've never had and they were the older ones

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who were gone pretty much by the time all this

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was happening off starting families of their own, and so

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I've never really asked them if if they saw anything,

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because when you know, I talked.

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About my story, they didn't believe us. They just, oh,

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you guys are seeing bears, You're hearing cougar's But we

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knew we weren't hearing commers and bears. We knew that's

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not what they sounded like, because you know, we knew

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what they sounded like. My dad was a very good outdoorsman,

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and he knew what he was hearing.

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This this home, this cabin area. Did your father and

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your family end up. Did you build that as you

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were moving on or was the cabin already there?

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It was already there.

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Do you know how long it had stayed vacant for

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before you moved into it?

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I have no idea. I don't think it was vacant

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long because the landlord my parents, actually we didn't own it.

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We rented it, and the landlord had been living up there,

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and he decided he wanted to move to town and

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rent the place out. And he thought about renting it

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out as like a summer rental or something, but he

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knew my parents. My parents knew him somehow, and he

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agreed to rent the place out to them.

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I wonder if there was ever a conversation between your

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dad and this landlord, something to the effect of, hey,

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there's there's a big foot on the property that you're

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renting to me. Do you know anything about that?

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I don't know. I don't know if he ever did

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talk to him about it. The only the only adults

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I remember talking about it, Like I said, with my

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dad is his two friends up there, Greg and left

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Less is the one across the street with all the kids,

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and that those are the only people my dad wherever

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was ever willing to talk to. You know, a few relatives,

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a few of the younger relatives. You know, when he

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did a few drinks in him, he'd regale the youngsters

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with a story or two. But they always thought he

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was just drunken telling stories. I would tell him, no,

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it's true. I was there, and they'd be like, yeah, yeah,

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you're cute. Wow, people who live up and don't know

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they No.

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Absolutely, was there anything ever left near the house that

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just didn't really make sense, or maybe parts of animals

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or just really weird things like that.

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No, nothing like that, at least not that my dad said.

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Gotcha, that's true. If there had been, there's a good

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chance he could have taken care of it. Because you

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were so young at the time.

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Yep.

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Do you ever remember seeing any like lots of broken

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trees or bent over trees, anything like that around the property?

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Yes, definitely around the house. Sometimes we'd see trees that

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were broken or branches that were broken so high up

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that it would scare my mother. It would really scare

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her because my dad would you know, it's sspair spairs Mary,

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It's okay, And she she knew he was lying, and

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she he finally admitted to her, you know what was

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going on, and she's like, well, I already knew that.

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But they always it was like they always wanted to

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pretend that it wasn't happening, because that's what my parents did.

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My parents were perpetual twelve year olds and they just

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you know, life was wonderful all day long and nothing

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bad ever happened. So that's how they that's how they

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wanted to live their life. But everybody knew, you know,

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everybody knew deep down what was going on. And then,

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you know, we had also had a thing going in

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our house where we kept finding food inside the house disappearing,

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and then we were finding clothing disappearing. And then one

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day I disc I discovered this little doorway upstairs. The

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house wasn't completely finished, and a couple of the rooms

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were just kind of framed in, but there was a

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real big space between a couple of rooms. It was

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just like empty space, but it was kind of set back.

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And then there was this wooden wall and I noticed

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this little door in it, and so I decided to

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peek in there one day, and there was a sixteen

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year old girl living in the wall that she had

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been there for a few weeks and she had run

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away from home. So that was that was crazy.

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It was quite the house, all right, that's that's an

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absolute nightmare. I'm trying to So did you find that

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individual yourself? Yes, Oh my goodness, Me and.

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My two sisters were home alone one day and we

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found her and we coaxed her out of there and

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we sat her down in the kitchen, my big sister

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did and made her stay there until my parents got home,

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and my parents took her down into town to the

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police station. She was just a runaway on her way

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into our wall.

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I mean, yeah, she's like, hey, I can get in

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there unfinished. It's kind of like a Goldilocks type situation.

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So it was it was pretty obviously that obviously she

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was a human runway though, like she could talk.

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Oh yeah. It was like, yeah, she was a local girl, right,

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she was a local.

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Girl, that is.

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I was not expecting that. That's a little twist, And.

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That was just something that popped up in my head.

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Did your dad finish the house after that? If I

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would be like, all right, time to finish the house.

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No, my dad when I was when I was really young,

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my dad was rear ended in his work truck by

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a very large semi and he was in the hospital

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for many months after that. And although he always tried,

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he would always try and get jobs or do some

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kind of you know, work for himself or things like that,

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it just he would always end up back in the

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hospital for doing too much. And so that was another

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reason why they wanted to live, you know, up in

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the mountain do subsistence living, I guess, and it just

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it got too hard on him me. They just couldn't

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do it anymore. So downtown we moved.

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When you moved down to town, did you start hearing

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stories from other people in town about people that had

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also have been seeing big Foot in the area.

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Oh, yeah, I started. I made friends with a girl

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in town. We became best friends. We are pretty much

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still to this day. And he knew some people that

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they had some kind of a touristy little business thing

462
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:09.119
up in Monte Cristo, an abandoned blake silvere raining town

463
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:13.079
or something that was up there, and she would go

464
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.880
up there and stay with some friends up there all

465
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.920
the time, and it was like, wait, it was there

466
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.680
was a it was like a ski resort or something,

467
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.680
and she would hear stuff all the time from people

468
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.359
about oh, hey, you know, they'd come into the office

469
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.519
and be like or into the lobby of this ski

470
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:35.680
place and be like, hey, we just saw something, and

471
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.240
you know, nobody ever knew what to say, like, yeah,

472
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:43.519
a lot of people see me, but you know, camtters

473
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.400
have always seen things. People coming into town, Hey you

474
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.839
should see what we saw. Up there. We saw a bigfoot.

475
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.039
I swear we saw a bigfoot, and it's still to

476
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.799
this day people see him up there above Granite Falls.

477
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:02.920
Absolutely. I mean, I think we've heard a few of

478
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.039
those on this show. For sure. The area definitely has

479
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:12.200
things going on. It sounds like no one ever experienced

480
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:18.480
any any weird health ailments on the property, nothing that

481
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:20.960
could be attributed to like infrasound or anything like that.

482
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:29.000
No, gotcha, nothing like that. Like I said, there's a

483
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.400
lot of things that I've heard from other people, and

484
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.319
as far as I know, as far as from what

485
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.359
I saw and what I heard and what I've heard

486
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:47.160
from people that I know from the area, it's just

487
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.839
seems like some offshoot of apes or humans or whatever

488
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.759
that's just lives in the woods and teaps away from

489
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.319
us as much as possible. I don't know about some

490
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.400
of the other stuff. If I hear people say, you know,

491
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.400
like they from another dimension or that they can walk

492
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.680
through portals, I know nothing about any of that kind

493
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.839
of stuff. What I saw seems completely natural to me,

494
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.319
just like anything else out in the woods.

495
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:21.200
It's a little scarier, yeah, absolutely, And then that would

496
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.599
push me over the edge if like I was already

497
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.359
amped up about bigfoot being outside my house and then

498
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.160
I find a person hiding in the walls upstairs.

499
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.880
Holy Mecca, I would be just messed up for life.

500
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.920
I can't believe you're as good as you are, but

501
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:38.039
you know.

502
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:43.000
My parents were very, very good at handling situations.

503
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.400
That's very good. Do you have any advice for people

504
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.559
that might be in similar situations right now where they

505
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.119
have bigfoot currently on their property.

506
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:01.839
I don't know, except that you know that they were

507
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:07.519
up there first, Try and be understanding of them. Like

508
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:12.640
I said, when I saw that thing's face, it actually

509
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.680
made me sad. It was sad to see us. Leave

510
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.880
them alone. If they're not hurting you, don't hurt them

511
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.359
if they're coming around your house and scooping and hollering.

512
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.880
Like my dad said it, he always just thought it

513
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.599
was a way of saying, just stay away from us

514
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.319
and leave us alone. And they're going to remind us

515
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:37.640
frequently to just, you know, mind darknes and queues. That's

516
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.720
about all I can say. I was so young when

517
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:43.400
all that happened, and I was terrified when it did.

518
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:46.119
Like I said I would, I would run around my

519
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.759
room at night trying to get out of my room

520
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.039
because my room was on the first level and it

521
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.720
faced the woods. I mean there was like trees two

522
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.359
three feet from my window. It was thick woods. So

523
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.960
you know that, like I said, that's their home. And

524
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.759
it sounds it feels weird to say this kind of

525
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:12.599
stuff because it just it feels weird to know that

526
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.160
I saw that. And over the years, with so many

527
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.000
people not believing you or calling you crazy, you start

528
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.640
asking yourself, you know, was I crazy? But my dad

529
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.079
wasn't and he saw it too, And so alls I

530
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.640
can say is if they're not hurting you, leave them be.

531
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:34.960
I think that's great advice.

532
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:35.160
Mo.

533
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.720
I just want to say thank you for coming on

534
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.240
the show to share what you experienced through that part

535
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.960
of your life, and just just to make sure that

536
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.720
there wasn't anything else that you wanted to share before

537
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.119
we close things out for it tonight.

538
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.000
There is one kind of piece of advice that I'd

539
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.559
like to give people. Sure, if you're going to be

540
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:05.680
going up onto the mount Loop, whether it's camping, hiking, hunting, fishing,

541
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.079
be very very very careful because the bears in the

542
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.240
Sasquatch aren't what's dangerous up there. It's the people up

543
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.200
there now and there's some people that live on the

544
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.440
Mount Loop or that stay on the Mount Loop, and

545
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.319
there's things that have happened there. People are the worst

546
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.240
monsters in the world. So just be careful when you're

547
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.240
on the Mount Loop on the Granite Fall side, once

548
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.400
you get over to the Darrington side, it's a little calmer,

549
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:45.680
but above Granite Falls, be really careful. That's about it.

550
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.880
I think that's I mean, that's great. Sounds like great advice.

551
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:54.559
Is that if you're so I'm personally not familiar with,

552
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.680
is that a highway you can be on or is

553
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:57.799
that a trail you can hike?

554
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.160
The mountain highways?

555
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.240
Okay, so it's even if you're on this highways, people

556
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.359
can still be messing with you, is what you're saying.

557
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.039
Yeah, in the camping grounds, and then you know, any

558
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.039
if you're out in the woods playing just randomly out

559
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.840
in the woods hiking, we've had we've had murders up there.

560
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:25.480
We've had and there's people who live up there that

561
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.199
just if you're going to go up there and go

562
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:34.559
real far, you know, go at least twenty miles up

563
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:40.039
past town, because that's kind of the danger zone there.

564
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.719
That's good advice. Always be prepared to survive, but also

565
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:53.280
to protect yourself against right bears, cougars, potentially bigfoot, and

566
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.559
one of the most dangerous predators of all, which would

567
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.440
be human beings. Great advice and mo, thank you so

568
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.760
much for coming on the show. Don't be free to

569
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.719
reach out if there's anything else that you would like

570
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.480
to share. But I really appreciate you coming on tonight,

571
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.480
no problem. Just want to take a few minutes to

572
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.679
say thank you to you all my listeners for listening

573
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.440
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579
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.039
it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If

580
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.880
you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or

581
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.960
know someone who has, please reach out to me at

582
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.880
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

583
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:59.440
Here's the list. Number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas.

584
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.599
Two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number three

585
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.599
encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number four,

586
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.719
any individuals that know about bigfoot being flown off after

587
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.320
the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five individuals that have

588
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.440
had a bigfoot encounter while in the military. Number six

589
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.559
those that have had a bigfoot encounter in the southern

590
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:25.880
New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

591
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.760
Number seven individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in

592
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.199
a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight

593
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.599
individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their house

594
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.320
forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine individuals that

595
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:43.119
have actively have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly,

596
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.079
any sightings that are in the Watchitaw National Forest Area

597
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.719
of Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you to all

598
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the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your

599
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support that helps keep the show going and I extremely

600
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appreciate it. I'll see you back next time, listeners. SASA

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