May 12, 2025

The Sasquatch That Jumped 30 Feet: A Hunter's Shocking Encounter

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Season 1

What happens when a seasoned hunter encounters a 200-pound Sasquatch that can leap 30 feet without bending its knees? In this jaw-dropping episode, Jerimiah Fountain, an experienced Bigfoot researcher, takes us deep into the Adirondacks to recount his terrifying first encounter with a juvenile Sasquatch. Jeremiah's story includes an up-close, athletic display of a creature that defied all expectations — leaping across logs with astonishing power. From glowing amber eyes to incredible feats of strength, this episode uncovers the mysterious creatures that roam these remote woods. Alongside his personal experience, we dive into the broader world of cryptids, including the eerie connection between Sasquatch and Dogman, and how these creatures may be linked to paranormal phenomena. This is one episode no Bigfoot enthusiast will want to miss.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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Tonight's story isn't from a hiker or a camper. It's

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from a man who's spent over twenty years researching cryptids

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and paranormal creatures. But in the Adirondacks, something began watching

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him back. One moment, a log sits still on a

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quiet forest road. In the next, it's a leaping creature,

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flying across the woods in a way no human could.

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This isn't a legend, It's not a secondhand story. It's

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a first hand account from a man who witnessed the incredible.

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This is the story of Jeremiah Fountain and the sasquatch

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that jumped thirty feet. So stay with us, all I

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pick the Society. We got the privilege of talking to

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Jeremiah Fountain today. Jeremiah is a researcher, cryptid researcher for

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over twenty years, also an experiencer on both the sasquatch

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and the dog man's side. He's involved with many other things.

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He's a podcaster, a fisherman, survivalist, hunter, founder of the

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group on the Trail Normal Research, and also one of

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the directors for the International dog Man Projects. So there's

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a lot of really interesting things we could talk about.

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Tonight is gonna be fun chat. But welcome to the show, Jeremiah.

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How's it going man, Thanks Jeremy.

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I'm doing well.

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How are you doing great? It's a it's a great

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Iowa night. It's starting to get warmer up here, so

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having a good night. Yeah, to talk about.

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It up here too, Yeah, absolutely, and it's always always

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good to talk about absolutely.

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Now you are down in the south, correct, No.

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I am up in the Adirondacks in upstate New York.

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Oh my goodness. Really, Oh that's that's incredible.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm about I'm sure you've heard of well,

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you know white All, about white All. I'm sure. I'm

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about two and a half hours north of white Hall.

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So I'm in the upper part of the Adiran Backs.

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I'm about I could literally from our property, I could

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walk great to the Candy border.

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Oh wow, so that is that is very much so

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upper out of Yeah.

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Yes, I'm I'm very very close to Canada in the

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Saint Arts River and you know, so, yeah, I'm I'm

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right up there right up here.

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In uh that is north of the park or.

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Of the Addick Park. Yeah, I'm right on the edge

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of the park. I'm I'm in I'm in what they

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call the Saint Art's Seaway Valley and I'm right on

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the line of the Saint Lawrence Seaway Valley and the

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Adirondack Park. So I'm right in between two you know,

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two good two hotspots.

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Oh yeah, definitely. Oh man, this this is great. This

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is great. Uh your chair, my, you've you've had so

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you're involved in many different things, which is really cool.

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I would love to let's take a few minutes if

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you'd be able to share. You know, what was it

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that first got you into the big foot field or

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was it something that got you into everything? Or maybe

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it's just been a wild ride the whole time.

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Well, yeah, you know, it's it's been a bild ride, Jeremiah.

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But you know, I, as long as I can remember,

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I've always been interested in cryptos. Uh. My mother, when

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I was about seven years old, bought me a book.

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It was called Unexplained Mysteries of the Twentieth Century. I

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don't know if you remember that book or not, but

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it was that was about seven, you know, I was

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I was little and my mom bought me the book,

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and uh, you know, I was flipping through the pages

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and finally I get to the section about big Va

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Yetti Latinus Monster, and I saw a picture of a

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beautiful woman named Patty. And uh, as soon as I

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saw Patty's picture, I was my little self was hooked.

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And uh, you know that's how it all Uh, that's

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how it all started. You know, I moved away after

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high school. It became I was actually a professional, professional

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mixed martial artist for for a long time as well.

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I took a nasty kick to the head never really

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recovered from it, so I had to retire from that.

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So I ended up back up here. And he had

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as and I'm a big like I like you were saying,

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you know, I'm a big hunter. And in two thousand

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and one is you know, that's when I had my

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first encounter on our property. I come from a logging family.

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We own a lot of a lot of land, a

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lot of properties, you know, and my father used to

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tell me stories about, you know, weird things that went

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down on the property. My brother in law on several

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occasions had you know, they would follow him back to

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his truck when he was hunting down there. I didn't

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have an experience down there until two thousand and one.

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Was it was muzzle oder season and I was coming

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back to my walking back to my truck. I had

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about a mile walk back to the truck. And I'm

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walking to the logging road and I get about a

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quarter mile from my truck and there's my father has

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a had an old skider down there, you know, like

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the old log skitters. And I looked and there's a

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there's a head that's peeping around the peeping around the

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logger skitter and with big gamber eyes and kind of

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me I took me off guard. You know, I really

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didn't know what I was looking at. It's something inside

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me told me that it was something different, you know,

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and being a hunter up here that we have a

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lot of wildlife up here, you know, bear, moose, white

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tail deer, you know, it's the wolves. People say wolves

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aren't we don't have them up here, but we do anyway.

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And and I didn't I couldn't really put a finger

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on what this was. It was. It was looking at me. Well,

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the head went back behind the skitterer again, and you know,

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I at this point, I had just turned my head

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lamp on him starting to get dusky, and uh, I

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start walking again to get to the track. I tried to,

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you know, put that in the back of my mind,

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you know, like it was a regular animal or whatever.

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So I get to almost a tip of the skinner

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and I'm close to this point, I'm about forty foot

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away from the nose of the skidder, and I had

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it lit up, and all of a sudden, I see

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an arm with a hand wrap around the front edge

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of the skidder, and the head pops out and then

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it pop back behind the skidder again. And at this

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point I froze. I was just absolutely shocked. All of

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a sudden, this thing leaps out from behind the skidder.

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There was two logs laying horizontal toward to me, and

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the first one was about fifteen feet in front of

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the nose of the skidder, and there was one next

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to it. There was about fifteen feet away from that.

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This thing come. This thing comes launching out from behind

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the skidder, hits the first log. Now, Jeremiah, when this

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this is, this is gonna blow your mind. They what

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happened was when it hit this, when it hit the log. Okay,

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you know how when people jump, when we say we

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do a free standing jump, right, how, we kind of

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we squat down, we swing our arms, you know, and

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make that long jump. But what this thing did is

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when it hit the log with its feet, it propelled

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itself off the front half of its feet. It didn't

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bend its knees, it didn't swing its arms. It just

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propelled itself off the tip of its feet. And that

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was just it was amazing. The athleticism, it was just incredible.

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And once it hit that log, it went right to

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the next one did the same thing off the second

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one landed right in front of a tree about another

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fifteen feet away and went behind the tree. And at

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this point I'm thinking, do someone have a private zoo

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around here? I don't know about is someone that range

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and get loose? You know, because that's the only thing

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I could compare it to at the time, you know,

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with some sort of a great eight. You know. Now

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I know that's not the case. But anyway, back then,

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that was my original thought process on these things, is

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there were some sort of mountain eight or whatever. It

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pops back, it comes back around the front of the

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tree and it's just sitting there standing staring at me.

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It's doing its bob back and forth. And it was

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a juvenile thing. It had to have been maybe five feet,

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not any toller than that. But people always ask me

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what did it weigh? What did it weigh? And if

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I had to guess Jeremia, I'd say this thing was

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at least one hundred and eighty five two hundred pounds.

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People say, well, that's not that big. Yeah, well for

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four foot eleven, that's pretty pretty put together, you know,

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for for eleven five foot, two hundred pounds is pretty

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pretty jacked, you know. And so at this point I

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wanted to get I was still I was freaked right out,

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you know. I, like I said, I did not know

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what this thing was and I didn't realize. I didn't realize.

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It's like I started thinking about it after I got

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in the truck. Did I really just see one? But

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any way, back to what I was saying, I raised

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my muzzleoader, and I want everyone to know out there,

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I am not pro kill unless it's entire unless you're

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in dire need of self defense. I don't believe in

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shooting at these things and whatnot. And on top of

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that and they know what guns are. That's true. That's

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there's no doubt about that. As soon as I pulled

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my muscloader up, I wanted to get a better look

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at it or my scope, you know what, I need

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to see see it up close. As soon as I

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pulled my muscloader up, put it to my shoulder, the

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thing covers its set up with its arms and it

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backs behind that tree again, and that's the last time.

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That's the last I saw of it. I don't know

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if they did that, dropped to the ground, you know

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where they drop, they'll drop down to the ground and

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they'll lay there, you know. I don't know if it

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did that or if it just it it flew through

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the underbrush and I didn't see it. I didn't I

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didn't hear anything. So I'm thinking, you got behind that

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tree and it just laid down. But I wasn't going

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to stick around and find out, you know. I just

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continued to my truck and I left, and it really

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it was very just a bizarre situation that I dealt

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with that first during that first encounter, just very weird,

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and I didn't have it ruined ruined my fishing, and

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it ruined my hunting for a couple of years, you know,

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knowing that they were that close to where I lived.

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You know, it's very unique, man, because you know, I

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talked to a lot of people, but you really touch

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on some cool stuff, which is I think people forget

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how athletic these creatures are. So it's no surprise. How

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you know they're there one minute and then they disappear. Well,

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I mean, how how far can they jump? Like you said,

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what they could jump? They landed fifteen feet away, was

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that right?

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Fifteen feet to each log, and then another fifteen twelve,

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fifteen feet to the tree. And like I said, it

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propelled itself off the front, almost off its toes. You know,

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I propelled itself off the ball of its foot. It

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was incredible. And you're right, people, I don't think a

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lot of people realize how athletic and now powerful these

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things are. It's unbelievable and just unreal.

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You think of like this is this is a small

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one that you said, just under five feet tall. Imagine

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you have the power of a adult male. What it

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could do?

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Yeah, if not more? Yeah, bose are mine. It's wild.

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It's wild.

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You had mentioned that it reminded you of orangutan. Is

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that because of the way that it looked like.

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It's the way it looked Yep, it was that burnish,

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a burnish brown hair. And I want to, I wanna,

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you know, get the point across out there, and it

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is not for they have it is hair. You know,

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a lot of people think that it's fur. It's not.

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It's hair, you know, which you know, fur hair are

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much different as you know, you know, and a lot

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of people out there think it's fur, but it's not.

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But yeah, it looked like it looked like an ranguton,

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a smaller rangutan. You know. Uh, the head wasn't it

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wasn't really it didn't come to a cone. It was

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kind of in between roundish in between a cone, conical head,

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long arms, you know, built just jacked. I mean this

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thing was was jacked. It was very very impressive, impressive,

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but very uh you know, scary at the same time.

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You know, I, like I said, at the time of

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the encounter, I had no idea what I was dealing with.

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It was just in my mind was all for the place.

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Oh absolutely, yeah. I can't imagine like the what you

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would have been dealing with as a person who doesn't

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have all that, you know, information that you have now

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as a researcher, and you're just trying to you know,

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your mind paradigms are shifting, and did did you notice

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any details of the face at all? Was that similar

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to an orangutan?

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You know? It was in between in between like an

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ancient human and an ape. You kind of like a

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cross in between the two. You know, I didn't really

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look like an orangutan facial facial feature wise, but it

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was like in between, you know, in between like an

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ancient human and some sort of ape. But as far

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as it looking dislike in orangutan.

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No, Okay, that makes sense, you know, based off a

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lot of things I've heard. Did it show any emotion

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to you during that time?

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I think it was scared. It was curious, and it

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was scared when I uh, I think the curiosity is

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but either that I thought, you know, and I've come

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back to this over the years, over and over now,

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when this thing jumped out, I you know, I think

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to myself, was it you know, I knew I was

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this thing knew I was coming obviously. Now was it

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curious or was it trying to get away from me?

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Was it did it see me? Did it did it

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see me in the woods earlier and seeing me with

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that weapon, you know, and uh decided did it wanted

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to get the get the heck out of there fast?

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Or was it you know, was it curious or was

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it scared? You know, I don't know. I think I

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would lean more towards after, you know, once it knew

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I had that weapon on me. I think it was

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more fear. When it put its hands over its head

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and it got back behind that tree. It was definitely, Uh,

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it was definitely afraid. But I think there was a

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lot of curiosity there as well, a lot of curiosity.

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Absolutely, And and after this experience, you know, how did

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this affect the rest of your life after you had

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this this visual, classy encounter that was pretty intense.

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Yeah, Like I said, I ruined my hunting for for

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a while. I didn't want to go back down there

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because I got thinking to myself, well, there's one down there,

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There's gotta be there's gonna be more, you know. And

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this is this is before I started really researched, Like

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I said, it was before I really started researching. But yeah,

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it just just wild, just wild. I think it was

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like I said before, I I just think it was

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they wanted to get out of there, you know, just

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the same same as I did. We just both wanted

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out of there. Just happened to run into each other.

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You know.

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So this this kept you away from hunting and fishing

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for it sounds like a few years, then.

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Did about three years?

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Three years? And then ye did you just eventually you're like, Okay,

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I'm going to give this another chance, time to go

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back again.

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Yeah. Yeah, I said, I'm not gonna let this thing

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or these things grew in my passions, you know. So

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you know, a couple of years, a few years later,

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I got back into my hunting, and nothing happened, like

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I said, until two thousand and seven. I was living

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I was living in Syracuse at the time. I came

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up here on the weekend to see my mother, and

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I you know, I decided my my tree stand needed

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some work, and I wasn't gonna sit and hunt. I

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just wanted to get down there and I wanted to

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fix my tree stand and get a he it ready

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for the next day. So I went down but I

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did bring my rifle. I you know, my father taught me.

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I was from a young age, you know, don't go

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into it. It's unarmed, you know. And I still to

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this day I abide by that. And it's not for

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the sasquatches, like I said before, it's for other dangers

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in the woods, you know, and most of all being

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other people. If there's other you know, twisted people out there,

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you know, yeah, you never know what you're going to

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run into. But yeah, two thousand and seven, I went

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to work on the tree stand and I after a while,

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I got it done a lot quicker than I thought

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I was going to get it done. So I said,

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you know what, what the heck, you know, I'm gonna

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I'm gonna sit for a while because there was a

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nice ten point buck in the area at that time

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that I wanted the harvest, and I said, maybe I'll

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catch them, you know. So I got my tree stand

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and I sat there, and I sat there about forty

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five minutes, and all of a sudden, I hear it

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got awful beller. Gives me chills just thinking about a

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beller scream grunt all at the same time, if that

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makes sense. And it just ran right through me, and

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I'm saying, what was that? And then my memories came

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back from my first encounter. I'm like, I hope it's

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it's not and I hope it's not related to that

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in my encounter anyway, shape or form, you know, but

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it's something, you know. The goose swamps on my arms

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and my hair stood up, and I said, I think

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it's time to get out of here. So I, uh,

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you know, I got out of the tree stand, and

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I had quite a ways, you know, to walk back

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to the truck, like I said before, and I had

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my rifle over my right shoulder, and to get back

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to the truck from this particular tree stand to pick

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up the logging road I had to cross by. Uh,

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there's a natural arche in spring. Beautiful beautiful spring. I

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think that's one of the things that attracts them to

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that spot, is that spring. It's just beautiful. Anyway, I

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was coming around the bend and I got to the

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got to the pond, the spring, and right off the

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right off the bank of the walk of the right

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off the bank in the in the water a little

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about two feet into the water were real were still

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real shallow. I noticed what looked like a tree from

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where I was standing at the time. And I said,

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what's what's going on here? I thought I was going crazy, Jeremiah,

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I really did. I I there wasn't a tree there.

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There hasn't been a tree there for as long as

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I've been alive. You know, why where'd it come? What's

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going on here? So I walked reluctantly, walked closer, and

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when I got about thirty feet away, the tree turned

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around and stared at me. And it was a female sasquatch,

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a mature, full grown female sasquatch. And we were about

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thirty thirty feet away from each other, looking at each other,

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dead in the eyeballs. And that would that would did

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that alone, that part of the encounter alone was very

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very disturbing. Just she and she she was she had

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that auburn color to her as well. Uh no hair

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on the face, the hair on the excuse me, the

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the facial feature the face. The face was like a

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lighter brown shade. It was in the auburn. Like the hair.

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It was like a lighter brown tan almost in this

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one as well. Didn't have a full conical head. It

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was somewhere in between a round head and a conical head.

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And she had like a spiked hair do you know?

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And you know where did your hair don honey? You know,

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it was kind of spiked off the top of her

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head and it was just the way it was, and

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I guess. But yeah, she was big. She was big.

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She was all of eight feet. She was a big female.

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She was massive. The most impressive part about her was

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the buttocks area, just full of muscle. Just you could

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see through the through her hair. You could see the

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rip and the striations and her muscles. It was just incredible.

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The most in One of the other most impressive parts

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about her was the thickness from her back to her chest.

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I would have to say two and a half three feet,

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you know, in thickness in probably probably three and a

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half four feet across the shoulders. And if she didn't

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weigh if she didn't weigh seven hundred, I think I

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have a theory. And it's not a theory, it's just

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what I think. I think people underestimate to wait these

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things a lot, you know, I don't think a lot

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a lot of people take into consideration how thick their

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bones really could be. The muscle mass, you know, is unreal.

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So the bone, you know, to be a woodland creature

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like that. You know, they've got to have some pretty

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thick bone density, I would imagine, you know. So we're

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standing in there, just looking at each other, and she

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she her eyeball, her eyeball. She didn't move her head,

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but her eyes flickered, and she saw the tip of

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that rifle coming out of my popping up from behind

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my shoulder. And I said myself, oh, no, you know,

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what's she gonna do. So the look she gave me, Jeremiah,

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And I'm not saying she spoke to me in mind

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speak or anything, because she didn't. It was just a

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reading I got from her, and she was pretty much saying, good,

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if you go out. You ever seen the movie Tombstone

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where he says, skin in that smoke wagon and see

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what happens.

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No, and people are gonna tear me apart for that.

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Yeah, that's that's exactly what the look she gave me

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was go ahead, skin it, skin that smoke wagon and

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see what happens.

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So and the other part of what I was reading

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for her was and if but if you don't, we

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aren't going to have any problems. So obviously you know

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I'm still here talking to you. So I didn't I

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didn't skin that smoke wagon, that's for sure. And even

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if I had wanted to, you know, she would have

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gotten to me way before I got that weapon off

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my shoulder. There's no doubt. There is no doubt. And uh,

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you know, and after that, you know, she took off.

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She popped up out of the water, got on the bank,

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took took a leap and the distance was incredible, and

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I'll get to that in a second, but she took

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three leaps and she was gone. Well I just I

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walked back to the truck and I was I was

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an absolute mess, absolute mess. So I got a few

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boddy together and the next I wasn't going I wasn't

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about to go back down there alone. You know. That

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next day I grabbed the two buddies, we went down there.

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We found the tracks from when she jumped out of

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the water. She went sixty three feet in three leaps.

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So that's what twenty twenty one feet one yeah averages

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out Yeah, twenty one feed leap sixty three feet and

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in just three leaps, you know, and that that's we're

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talking the seventy eight hundred pound creature. Like I said,

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you know, being able to move that fast and with

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that much power. It's incredible, absolutely incredible, just just unereal.

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And you know, and that's when, at that point in

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two thousand and seven, that's when I really decided I

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needed answers. And that's when I became a researcher instead

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of getting into the really into the research, you know,

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And I hooked up with we're talking this is years,

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you know, years back, two thousand and seven. I hooked

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up with a very well known bigfoot researcher, you know that.

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And he had a podcast at the time, and I

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reached out to him. And I'm not going to say

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his name on the on over the air. I don't

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know if you want me to.

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Do that, but oh I don't care. You can go

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ahead if you want.

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Yeah, well, you know William.

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Jenny, Oh yeah, totally. Yeah, Yeah, that's cool.

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Yeah. Nice. I hooked up with will And I was

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with Will for you know, quite about ten years, brand

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his brand j r G. His organization for him and everything,

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and you know, he taught me a lot, he did.

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But you know, I decided to, you know, after after

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spending time with him and his group, we parted on

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good terms and uh, I went out on my own,

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started my own group, started my shows, you know, YouTube

459
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.720
channel you and all that, you know, and I got

460
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.400
really got heavy into the heavy end of the research

461
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:10.519
after that, you know. So, and then in two thousand

462
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:16.680
and sixteen, we my wife and I were you're building.

463
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:20.079
We were building the cabin on the land that we

464
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:24.160
live in now. And as we were building it, we

465
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.559
were living out of a camper because we were, you know,

466
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:32.160
building that building the cabin. And my wife actually one

467
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.400
day she took the four wheeler to go pick blueberries

468
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:39.759
and she came back and she was white as a ghost.

469
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:41.559
And I'm like, wow, what's going on?

470
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:42.079
What happened?

471
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.960
She's like, you're never going to believe it. I said,

472
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.680
you saw on, didn't ja? She said yep. And I'm like,

473
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.000
you need to show me where. So we went to

474
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.359
the blueberry patch or she had been picking blueberries, and

475
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.559
she showed me the branch like that when it turned

476
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.720
around walked away from her. She showed me the branch

477
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:07.440
that it walked under, and I right off the bat

478
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.920
I said to myself, that's got to be ten feet.

479
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.400
So I got up on the four wheeler. I had

480
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.400
her hold the bottom of the tape measure down on

481
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.200
the ground, and I had to reach reach as much

482
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.200
as I could to get to the bottom of that

483
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.279
limb to get a measurement. And to the bottom of

484
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:27.319
the limb it was ten foot six inches. She said.

485
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.000
When it walked under that limb to walk away from her,

486
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.279
it hit only cleared the bottom of the branch by

487
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.279
about three inches. So this thing was about ten foot

488
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.839
three inches, give or take. And they were in the

489
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.559
blueberry patch and she was right up close and next

490
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.880
to this thing. She said, it stood it when it

491
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.279
stood up, she hadn't even seen it. You know, that's

492
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:54.480
how well And that's another thing, you know, how well

493
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.640
they can camouflage themselves in their own environment. It's unbelievable,

494
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.759
just unbelievable. And she didn't see it till it popped up.

495
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.839
So that and that summer we had a very very

496
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:10.559
active summer with them. We did a lot of a

497
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.160
lot of research in the land. I have a lot

498
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:17.119
of other spots that we research up here. Now there's

499
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.480
a big difference being you know, the ones that we

500
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.160
have on our property, there's six to eight at any

501
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.960
given time. They they stick around for the fall the

502
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:32.640
summer and they leave you know, they leave late fall

503
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.960
and they come back in the spring, and that during

504
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.920
the wintertime is when the dog men show up. I

505
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.079
know a lot of people say that, you know, they

506
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.759
they have you know, their groups, they run together and

507
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.799
they see them together. But I haven't noticed that up here.

508
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.880
It seems like up here they don't play so well together,

509
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:57.599
if you will. So, yeah, in twenty sixteen is very

510
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:03.119
very interesting, very interesting, uh fear while we were relding

511
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.720
the cabin, you know, and uh, the ones on the

512
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.880
ones on that piece of property that we're living on now,

513
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:13.400
they're very they're very relaxed. They're they've never given us

514
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.720
any trouble. They've never gotten aggressive, except for that look

515
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.920
I was given by the female. You know, I don't

516
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:25.000
really consider that aggressiveness though, more of a warning, I guess.

517
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:30.079
But yeah, we haven't. We haven't had any problems with

518
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.440
them whatsoever. I do. We do research a lot of

519
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.799
other spots where you know, we've had boulders. You can

520
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.640
feel the tension in the air. You can tell they're

521
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:42.519
more aggressive groups than what we have. You know, we've

522
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.559
had boulders thrown at us, logs thrown at us, you

523
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.559
name it. You know, you know, you name it, they've

524
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.039
been tossed out us. But we usually do. We don't

525
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.720
when we go out looking, when we go out and

526
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.559
do research, we don't wander around the woods all n

527
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.440
because I found that if you do that, you're not

528
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.839
gonna You're not gonna see him. And that's they want

529
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.920
you to. Absolutely, you're just not gonna see him. You

530
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.880
don't you go out looking, You're not going to see him.

531
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.359
But I tell you what, if you can make camp,

532
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.799
you start a fire and you throw some bacon on

533
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.000
a grill or on the on the fire, bacon on

534
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:23.279
the fire, and uh, you know, they'll come in and

535
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.720
check you out. If they're in the area, they'll come

536
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.440
in and check you out. That's for sure.

537
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:32.119
Yeah, you get it, dude. You yep, yep you are.

538
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:39.960
And and I was saying that because man, it lines

539
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.599
up with so many different things I've heard. I've never

540
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.359
had a visual sighting myself, but right I can tell

541
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.720
that that you get it how this all works.

542
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:50.119
Absolutely?

543
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:56.680
Can you try? Is it even possible to explain to

544
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:01.200
someone who has never seen something that is eight foot

545
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:06.079
tall what it's like to see when you saw that

546
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.440
female sasquatch? Just to see something that that it's that

547
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.039
much taller than you. What does it? What does that

548
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:13.480
do to you as a human being?

549
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:21.279
Humbles you very quick, very quick, you know. And being

550
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:25.039
an x MMA fighter, I was competing at the time too,

551
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.759
and I wasn't scared of much, you know, but I

552
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.440
knew that was one one match I wasn't gonna win.

553
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:39.200
So yeah, it's it's hard to fathom, you know, Like

554
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.839
you said, if someone's never seen one, it's very hard

555
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:47.119
to get across to them. How how massive, how massive

556
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:51.039
these things are. And like we were, we've been saying

557
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.759
the whole time in the athleticism, the size that it's

558
00:31:54.799 --> 00:32:00.480
just incredible, incredible, It's just totally totally credible.

559
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.559
Does it does what you saw that? Does anyone in

560
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.599
the athletic field, or MMA field or bodybuilding field even

561
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.960
come close to what what you see when when you

562
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.519
have a visual of them, not big guys.

563
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.400
Not even close. And I've seen some pretty big dudes,

564
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.240
you know, the heavyweights in the MMA circuits. There are

565
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.160
massive men, you know, sixty five two hundred and sixty

566
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.359
five pounds, three hundred, you know close. They're cutting eight

567
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.359
down from three hundred pounds to make two sixty five,

568
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.480
you know what I mean. And those are big men,

569
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.559
you know, but put them next to a Sasquatch. It's

570
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.960
eight foot, it's all, you know, weighing eight hundred pounds,

571
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.599
they they're gonna look like a little boy, you know.

572
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.720
So yeah, it's uh, it's very hard to get someone

573
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.559
to wrap their head around it. You know. I'm still

574
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.640
trying to wrap my head around it twenty years later,

575
00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:00.920
you know. So yeah, it's just it's it's wild. It's

576
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:06.119
wild in that in twenty sixteen we had uh, that's

577
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.200
when we we had our first dog, Man Encore. My

578
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.400
wife and I. I don't know if you want me

579
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:12.319
to get into that at all.

580
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.640
Yeah, i'd say if if it is part of the story,

581
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.839
then I'd say, yeah, feel free to share, definitely, Okay.

582
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.200
Okay, yeah, because there's a part of it I think there.

583
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.480
I think these I think it's lengthd somehow, And it

584
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.400
was you know, it was coming to you know, the

585
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.680
time where the Sasquats were getting ready to it would

586
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.519
have been time for them to take off. I don't

587
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.000
know where they go for the winter, I don't know,

588
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.880
but they always come back. You know. It's a pattern.

589
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:48.079
Every year. You know, but we we went to my

590
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.480
parents for dinner. My parents live, you know, a few

591
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.480
miles away on their piece of property, and they're all connected.

592
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.920
We'd been down there for dinner and we came back.

593
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:02.920
We were cruising down our road and on the other

594
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.400
side of the not on my side, not on our

595
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.039
side of the road where our property is, but on

596
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.800
the other side of the road. Okay, I something about

597
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:15.280
that other side. We an't on that part. That's that's

598
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.599
all state land across from where we where we live.

599
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.639
I had always been something about that piece of land,

600
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.639
or that that land in particular. It's just always freaked

601
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.760
me out. It's always giving me a bad gut feeling

602
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.360
for some reason. So we're cruising down the road. My

603
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.400
wife's got a little bit of a light foot and

604
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.039
I said, Stacy, slow down, you're gonna hit that guy

605
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.639
in the side of the road right there. And I'm

606
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:46.440
thinking with someone doing out here walking around And we

607
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:50.280
got close and we realized that we weren't looking at

608
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:54.320
a person. She slammed on the brakes and uh, it

609
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.920
popped out and in the middle of the road and

610
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.239
turned and looked right at us, and the when it

611
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.199
was brown and you. We were so close to this thing.

612
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.480
You could see the saliva pouring out of its mouth,

613
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.960
you know it was, and it just stared, just stared

614
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.679
at us. Very smug. The only way I can describe

615
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.719
the look it was giving us was a very smug,

616
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.559
arrogant look, you know, if that makes sense, very cocky looking,

617
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.400
you know, like I can do to you whatever I

618
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.480
want to do to you, you know, some along those lines,

619
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:34.800
you know. Excuse me. So he got back down, and

620
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.119
it got back down on all fours and it ran

621
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.119
over to our side of the our side of the road,

622
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.159
onto our property. So I'm like, you know, okay, great,

623
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:47.039
this is lovely. And uh we immediately got out of

624
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.400
the car. I what we got in the camper and

625
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.719
he locked the doors. I loaded the weapons because I

626
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.679
I you know, I had dealings with sasquatch. You know,

627
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.840
that was turned in it turned into a normal thing,

628
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.039
you know, with our research and living on this piece

629
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:07.440
of property. But this seeing this dog man was a

630
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.519
totally different experience, and it was scary. You know. So

631
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.679
we're laying there and we're trying to just chill out

632
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.480
and we're talking about, you know, what we just saw.

633
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.079
What did we just see. And all of a sudden,

634
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:32.519
something slammed into the side of the camper boom, and

635
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.679
it just about it shook the camper so bad it

636
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.599
felt like the camper is going to tip over. So

637
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.920
we heard Harry Carey going on outside the you know,

638
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:49.760
we heard tree snapping and branches breaking and grunts. Makes

639
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.119
me so we The next day, I wake up and

640
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.280
I walk out, get out of the camper, and there's

641
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.920
trees not down, there's locks all over the place. There's tracks,

642
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.280
you know, there's big foot tracks, and there's dog man tracks.

643
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.719
Makes me wonder if that big one and these are

644
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.480
eighteen in tracks, that's that big one that my wife

645
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.320
saw that was Those were his tracks. I could tell

646
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.719
because I casted many of his footprints in the past

647
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.559
before this. So, you know, it makes me wonder if

648
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:25.280
they if this thing was close to the camper, and

649
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.079
and that sasquatch was trying to protect us somehow. I

650
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.880
don't know, But all I know is, Uh, there was

651
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:38.320
two two creatures or animals or whatever, beans, whatever you want, entities,

652
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.679
whatever you want to call them, going at it outside

653
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:48.840
of the camper. And it was unreal. All the weird

654
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.079
things I've experienced in my life that was that was

655
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.559
That's right at the top of the list for sure.

656
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.199
It must have been or just a horrifying experience. Do

657
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.920
you guys have any Do you guys have any neighbors

658
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.920
that are are close to it all or no?

659
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.679
We have one one neighbor that's about two miles down

660
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.360
the road, but we we got a little land feud

661
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.960
a few years back, so we really don't speak to them.

662
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.880
But so I've never had a chance to come out

663
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.039
and ask them if they've had anything weird to go

664
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:26.039
go on, you know, on their property. I imagine, you know,

665
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.559
I imagine two miles for these things is nothing. So

666
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.880
it wouldn't surprise me if they've had experiences with them,

667
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:37.280
you know. So, yeah, but we don't have many. There's

668
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.199
not many neighbors close or just that one. The one neighbor,

669
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.760
a gentleman and his mother. They're about two miles down

670
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:49.599
the road, So I don't know if they've experienced anything.

671
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:54.519
I think, yeah, this might be a good time to

672
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.760
to ask. You kind of alluded to something at the beginning.

673
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:10.360
After experiencing interactions with more than a few of these

674
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.039
Sasquatch in the area, have you come to any conclusions

675
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.960
or thoughts about what you think, what it is that's

676
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.800
that's going on with them, How would you categorize or

677
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.159
classify them.

678
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.400
Oh, that's a good one. That's tough one. You know,

679
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.920
like I told you, like I said before, and I

680
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.199
think this is what you were just referring to. I

681
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.079
used to believe they were a primate, an undiscovered primate,

682
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.039
you know, more a little more adapted to walk on

683
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.239
two feet and whatnot. I used to you know, I

684
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.119
thought there's some sort of mountain mountain girl, mountainy or whatever.

685
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.400
But that didn't you know, once I got out in

686
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.079
my own, once I started doing more research and uh,

687
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.719
you know, got out my own, weird things would start

688
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.400
to have and you know, after activity, we'd see orbs,

689
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.599
orbs would follow us out of the woods, and you know,

690
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:14.920
weird stuff like that. Things in the crafts and all

691
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:18.840
the how do I put this, all these weird phenomenons Grama,

692
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:23.199
They're they are all interconnected somehow. I don't know how,

693
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.519
but in my my opinion, I think they're all interlinks somehow,

694
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.920
all these different Yeah, without a doubt, all these different phenomenons,

695
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.400
they're all linked. I mean, crafts in the sky orbs,

696
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.960
just spirit. You know, we've had par a lot of

697
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:45.599
paranormal stuff happened inside the house, you know. We they

698
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.280
bang on the walls outside, you know, when they when

699
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:52.639
they feel like messing around, you know. And uh, but yeah,

700
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:56.400
I I I don't know. I really don't know what

701
00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:00.159
they are. I think, uh, I think they're very ancient. Ka.

702
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.159
I don't think they're an animal, and I don't think

703
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.079
they're a human. I think there there's something all in

704
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:11.800
their own if that makes sense, some something all in

705
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:15.719
their own category. I think, you know, they have. I

706
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.400
think they have abilities that we can't fathom yet, that

707
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:24.239
we can't even begin to fathom. So yeah, I I

708
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.960
really don't know, Jarah, be honest with you. I've I've

709
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.239
battled with that in my head for for years now

710
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.039
of what these things actually are, you know, and with

711
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.400
their with their purposes and what they're doing doing here

712
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.239
and and whatnot. You know. So yeah, I wish I

713
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.719
had an answer for that question, but but I just don't.

714
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.719
I think it makes sense though. It's just a thing

715
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.039
where you're trying to figure it out as you go along.

716
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.440
What kind of things are going on inside the house.

717
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:03.679
Things falling off the walls. I've got pictures of spirits

718
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.519
flying through the air and inside the house. I will

719
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.159
get up. I there was one. I'll give you an example.

720
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.360
One night I got up. I didn't know I had

721
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:17.960
gotten up. I didn't realize till the next day. I look,

722
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.159
and I'm going through my phone, and there's pictures and

723
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:26.400
video from me walking around the cabin with my phone,

724
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.960
with my phone filming and taking pictures. And I catched

725
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.639
this this small beam, and you're I'm you're, I mean,

726
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.719
You're gonna think I'm crazy, and everyone else out there

727
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:42.840
is probably gonna think I'm nuts too, But I've got

728
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:46.480
the picture to prove it. It looked like a little tiny

729
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.519
it looked like a ferry with wings floating in the air.

730
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:55.440
And that's the that's the only way I can describe it.

731
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.159
I yeah, I'm definitely gonna send you that picture because

732
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.559
you got to check it out. It's unbelievable. Yeah, things

733
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:06.079
falling off the walls, noises in the night, waking us up,

734
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:11.199
you know, from upstairs up in our attic, just very

735
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:16.480
very very weird things. One that we had when we

736
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:20.400
moved we moved down to North Carolina in two thousand

737
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:29.280
and eighteen, I think it was. And when we moved there,

738
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.559
we were looking for a good spot to research, you know,

739
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.280
and right luckily down the road from the house we

740
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:39.320
were living in, there's an old train trustle and we

741
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.840
started doing a lot of investigating there. And I don't

742
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.800
know if once you become in contact with these things,

743
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:51.320
if they sort of tag you, and you know what

744
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.639
I mean, do you know what I mean, they kind

745
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:54.320
of tag it.

746
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.920
I think they tag you and they unlock you in

747
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.559
a way. Okay, yep, yeah.

748
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.960
So that yeah, I think we're on the same page. Yeah,

749
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.639
because we we did see we did we had a

750
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.719
lot of action down there, a ton of action and

751
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:12.679
more we saw. We did see a sasquatch. One night,

752
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.400
we were under the train trustle under the bridge and

753
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.400
it was myself, my wife and my h my daughter

754
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:26.639
who was seventeen at the time, and we heard footsteps

755
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.840
and then walking through the bayou like heavy footfall, two

756
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.360
legs and I'm sitting here, Okay, here we go, you know,

757
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.119
and they're gonna come out. When we saw eye shine,

758
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.480
we saw blue eyes shine and red eyes shine. And

759
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:46.679
there was four individual sets of eyes, but three of

760
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.599
them disappeared, but the blue the blue set kept walking

761
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.880
and under the train. Trustle there's a brook that runs

762
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.840
through there. Okay, there's a brook, and they were this

763
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.719
sasquatch went up on the other side. Okay, he was

764
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.440
on the other side of the bridge, the other side

765
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.679
of the brook. He walked up the hill and I

766
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.400
lit him up my spotlight. I just let him right

767
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.519
up and uh he was. He was gray, yeah, like

768
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:20.599
almost even a silver and uh the vegetation I had

769
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.320
measured it afterwards was about seven feet seven seven and

770
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.239
a half feet tall, the vegetation was, and his head

771
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.800
was a good foot over. You know. We could see

772
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.000
from the from the chest up, so we could see

773
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.360
about two feet of him, you know. And uh, he was.

774
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.559
He was massive, bigger than that female I saw. But

775
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:44.760
he also looked a little bit different. Okay, this one,

776
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.840
this one looked more apish than the other. Than the

777
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.159
other two I didn't the ones I had seen up here.

778
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.920
This this one looked did look more ape like. But

779
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.039
he didn't pay us any mind. He turned and looked

780
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:03.960
at us once and continue to walk walked away. And

781
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.639
that's the last week saw them. That's the last week

782
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:07.880
saw the.

783
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:15.719
S do you think there's different variations within let's let's

784
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.920
think of like Sasquatch as a whole. Do you think

785
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:22.719
there's some then that have human like features and some

786
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:23.840
that are more ape like.

787
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.159
Yeah, see, okay, just in nor I believe, just in

788
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.320
North America alone, we have different types, you know, let

789
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.599
alone around the world, like with the Eddie and the

790
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:40.320
Gaguay and you know the alley, you know, those are separate.

791
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.079
I think, I believe right here in North America there's

792
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.920
I think there's you know, four or five different subspecies

793
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.800
of these things, depending on the region, You're right, So yeah,

794
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.159
you know, and they all they all look different. And

795
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.760
you know, even the same type. For even if there

796
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.559
is different types, you know, the even one of the type,

797
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:02.920
we're going to look. Everyone's going to look. Every individual

798
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.639
is going to look different a little bit, you know.

799
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.800
But the the this one in North Carolina looked totally different.

800
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.400
You could tell it was a different a different subspecies

801
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.719
in my opinion, you know, I think, I I know,

802
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.280
I can feel it, and I got it was a

803
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.960
different It was a different subspecies, you know, And a

804
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.119
lot of the a lot of the in North Carolina,

805
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.000
especially more so than up here. We had a lot

806
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.639
of the paranormal stuff going on, like with the orbs,

807
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.719
you know, after we hadn't after we had that encounter

808
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.639
with the gray one. You know, we were followed out

809
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.639
of the woods for an hour and I got it.

810
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:48.239
I got that on video too. This orb followed us

811
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:50.840
around for about a half an hour. It was about

812
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.960
sixty feet away from us, at about thirty feet up

813
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.960
in the air, and it floated right in front of us,

814
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.400
and it would get small, and it would get big,

815
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.920
and my wife would my wife has some abilities, and

816
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.679
she was trying to communicate with it and talk to it.

817
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.679
And every time she would talk to it or ask

818
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.760
her a question, it would get bigger, get big, big, big,

819
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:14.719
big big, and then it would shrink right back down

820
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:21.440
again to the or which yep, an orange orb, yeah, yep.

821
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.000
And we saw a lot of a lot of crafts,

822
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.400
you know, a lot of crafts in the sky down that,

823
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.920
trustle just a lot of weird things. A lot of

824
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.519
weird things happened down there. It was definitely a hot spot,

825
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.679
you know. And I believe these things. I will say this,

826
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.239
and I would have laughed at this, you know, years back.

827
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.199
But I think there's a chance it could be an interdimensional.

828
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.920
Did she start to have those abilities before or after

829
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.480
she started to have interactions with with Bigfoot?

830
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.239
She has hadn't since she was a little girl. But

831
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.519
they have intensified since we started getting into this, you know,

832
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:09.320
years back. They they seem like they've intensified her in

833
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:16.039
her senses are sharpening, you know, with her abilities. Yeah,

834
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.679
they they've they've definitely grown more powerful, if you will,

835
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.679
even since we've been married, you know, they've gotten more powerful.

836
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.119
And her abilities we did see, you know, a lot

837
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:32.400
of crafts in the sky. And yeah, I'll tell you

838
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.360
this too, man. I I kind of like I leave

839
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.000
this out a lot of my interviews. I do because

840
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:46.000
it's I still had problems fathoming that I saw this thing. There.

841
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.280
We're we're on top of the bridge and we can

842
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.320
hear footfall, footfall coming and I have this on video

843
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.719
and still shot as well. So well, I will send

844
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.880
you these tomorrow as well, just to show you ice.

845
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:06.559
So we started filming and Stacey started taking snapshots and

846
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:10.719
I was on the camera the video, and we didn't

847
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:15.360
see anything. We didn't see a thing, you know, And

848
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.280
then all of a sudden, after we hear the footfall,

849
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:24.400
go away, these blue orbs come down, come flying out

850
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.800
of the sky. They do figure eights in front of us,

851
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:31.360
you know, about ten times, and then they shoot back

852
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:33.960
up into the sky. And this was right after we

853
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.280
heard this footfall. So when we get home, we start

854
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:45.280
we analyze the video and lo and behold what it

855
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.039
looks like. It's an upright whatever this thing is. It

856
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.920
was upright walking, gray in color, and it looked like

857
00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:00.320
a reptilion creature, and it was carrying a massive, dead

858
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:06.599
wild boar. I know, that sounds crazy.

859
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.280
I've never heard anything like that before. That is that's

860
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:18.880
really unique. So it was the reptilian was carrying a

861
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:19.480
wild boar.

862
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:21.119
Wow, the dead wild boar.

863
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.519
Okay, I've heard that, but not with that.

864
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.000
Yeah, you and me both. That was the first I've

865
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:32.039
ever heard or seen heard anything like that, you know,

866
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:36.039
And you're right, you hear about sasquatch bigfoot carrying around

867
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:41.599
dead animals. But you know, I couldn't believe it. And

868
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:45.360
this thing it had to in the I couldn't tell

869
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.840
how tall it was because you know the video. If

870
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.599
I would have seen it in person, I would have

871
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.119
able to judge it more but it had to. It

872
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.199
was the least as all as I was. I'm six

873
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.679
to one, so it was a least of all as

874
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:58.880
I was. But it had that to be able to carry,

875
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.440
and it had it was cradling. It had that borer

876
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:05.800
cradled in its arms, like carrying it like nothing. Jeremiah.

877
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:09.880
It was just crazy. Three three long fingers on each arm,

878
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.599
on each hand had the you know, the reptilian looking

879
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.360
snout and it was gray in color. Yeah, walking right

880
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:24.039
through the water, you know, water moccasin alligator infested water, right,

881
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:29.679
you know, it's just just crazy. It still blows my mind.

882
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.239
But yeah, I would definitely send you those send you

883
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:38.880
that stuff tomorrow. It was just crazy. And uh yeah,

884
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.719
after crashed in the sky at that spot, orbs crashed

885
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.400
in the sky. Uh, you know, a lot of vocalizations,

886
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:52.280
you know, sightings. It was a pretty wild spot. It's

887
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.000
where my wife's mother lives down in eastern North Carolina.

888
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.639
But we did move we you know, we moved back

889
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:05.679
up here in two thousand and twenty one. It was

890
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.760
the spring of twenty twenty one and Turkey season had

891
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:15.480
just started here and I went down went down behind

892
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:18.039
the At this point, the cabin's belt. We were living

893
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.679
in it at the time. I take a walk out back.

894
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.320
I want to try to see if I can harvese

895
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:28.400
myself with turkey. And there was nothing new was I

896
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.639
didn't see any here any It was the dead morning.

897
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.159
The woods were extremely extremely quiet. As I'm walking back,

898
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:41.239
I feel like I'm being watched. I can feel something

899
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.679
with eyeballs on me. There was no doubt about it.

900
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.800
Something told me to look to my left. When I

901
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:54.239
looked to my left, I see an upright wolf, locking creature,

902
00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:02.159
gray in color, up the year, straight up standing ears.

903
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:07.199
I was about I would say, eighty feet away, and

904
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:10.400
it had its arms and I have this pit. I

905
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.039
have a picture of it. I'll send you that tomorrow

906
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.920
as well. I uh, it had a dead It had

907
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:20.280
its arms wrapped around a dead deer, and the deer

908
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.880
you can see the bowels of the deer hanging out

909
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.039
of it and spatter it all over the ground. And

910
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.000
it just it stared at me. And I had to

911
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:32.440
to I HAE had to make twelve gage on me.

912
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.480
And it makes me wonder, you know, if I hadn't

913
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:39.400
had that gun, and it hadn't had lunch already. But

914
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.599
I had been on the menu, you know. Oh yeah,

915
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:47.480
absolutely that was so that was that was a pretty

916
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:53.280
uh pretty scary scary experience. But yeah, I was able

917
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:56.119
to get a picture. And then I turned around and

918
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.360
I bought I backed up, I walked, I walked out,

919
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:02.719
you know, facing this thing. In case it did take

920
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:06.760
a charge at me, I would have had time to react.

921
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.760
But all it did was it just kept its eyeballs

922
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.960
on me and followed me. Was its turbit turning? Its

923
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.679
head didn't move, any of its body didn't move, its

924
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.719
arms didn't move, the dear was holding just moved its

925
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.920
head followed me to make sure I was leaving. Yep.

926
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.280
So yeah, that was pretty intense as well.

927
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.360
I want to ask you something, as someone who's been

928
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.719
in the field for over twenty years, to get your

929
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:41.719
thoughts on it, because I am very new to the field.

930
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.480
Why would it just over five years and when it

931
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:48.400
comes to Bigfoot, probably a year and a half to

932
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.039
two years, so super new, right, talked to a lot

933
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:55.880
of people, but very new. Now, looking over the last

934
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.199
twenty years, do you feel like things are getting more

935
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.159
and more uh more people are talking about them. It's

936
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.880
hard for me to tell because I just don't know

937
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.400
if more people are listening and that's why people are

938
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.599
reaching out, or if it feels like as we go

939
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:17.480
further and further along there's more people or more things

940
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.119
that are happening. I don't know. I'm trying to work

941
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:20.559
through it.

942
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:22.440
I think it's I think it's a you know what,

943
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.360
I think it's a little bit of both. I think

944
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.960
people are getting more comfortable talking about it because I

945
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.159
think it's it's starting to people are starting to realize

946
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.519
that these things are real. People are and you know,

947
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.199
I think more people are seeing them. And with the developments,

948
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:41.880
you know, with like you know, how it's going up

949
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:46.519
and they're building housing developments in rural areas now and

950
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:51.119
we're encroaching on their territory, you know, so people are

951
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.960
gonna people are seeing more of them. So I think,

952
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:58.760
you know, people are getting more either're getting more being

953
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:04.559
more acceptable of these things, you know. So I think

954
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.559
it's a little a little bit of both that you mentioned.

955
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:10.880
You know, people are just you know, there's they're seeing

956
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.800
them and they're they're feeling more comfortable talking about it.

957
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:14.960
You know.

958
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.000
Yeah, I think that's that is a it's a great

959
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.440
way to put it. I think.

960
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:23.440
More.

961
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:26.159
I talked to people, it just feels like certain areas

962
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:29.360
of the US, uh, you know when people say window

963
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.159
areas or you know, the veil is thing. I think

964
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.400
that's that's an absolute real thing. I mean, there are

965
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:40.719
certain areas absolute country where just stuff is, stuff is

966
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.800
coming from somewhere, man, or it's just showing me, dude,

967
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:45.280
I don't know what's going on.

968
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.599
Absolutely absolutely, you know. And like I said earlier, I

969
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:52.519
would have I would have laughed at like the whole

970
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:57.719
portal interdimensional thing years ago. But I truly think there's

971
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:03.280
that's a pretty good Uh. I think that's a huge possibility.

972
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:10.320
I really do. I mean if I mean, my partner

973
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.800
Nick Valente and I were talking about this the other night,

974
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:16.679
my podcast partner and who I run help from the

975
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.840
International dog Man Project. Now, we were talking about that.

976
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.360
You know, there's just more and more things people are

977
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.960
reporting seeing, you know, more creatures, more you know, more cryptid,

978
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:35.199
the more paranormal stuff going on. So that coming from somewhere.

979
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.360
And here's the deal. You know, I can't tell you

980
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.400
how many times I picked up I've seen a nice track,

981
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:49.159
you know, in an open field, okay, and disappear no

982
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:54.880
no trees around nothing. It did just one track, you know,

983
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.679
especially when you see it in the snow. You know

984
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.519
what I mean? Where are the other tracks? Right? You're

985
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.559
in a wide open You're in a wide open field.

986
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:09.320
Where are the tracks? So are these things able to access?

987
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.480
You know, a paroral or something? It will? I don't,

988
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:17.280
I don't know, I did, I don't know. I I

989
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.119
think it's a strong, strong possibility. I mean, physics has

990
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.800
already proven there's other there's other dimensions, you know, So

991
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.880
I don't know why people think that's such a far

992
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:28.960
out there idea.

993
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:37.280
You know, you've mentioned that. You you know, you've had

994
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.199
multiple times where you've had visual sightings, so you're far

995
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.400
past that. But what is yes, you know, what is

996
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.760
the the Is there a main goal that you're working

997
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.199
towards where it's like if you accomplish that, you can

998
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.239
walk away from this like I I did what I

999
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:56.400
was trying to do, We're done? Or can you ever

1000
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:57.280
walk away from this?

1001
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.440
I'm I'm never gonna be able to walk away from this.

1002
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.840
It's an obsession now, and I don't know if it's

1003
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.559
a healthy obsession or not, but it's I'm it's it's

1004
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:11.559
it's an obsession. I need. I need more answers. I

1005
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.719
don't know if all if I'm ever going to get them,

1006
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:17.960
but I'm gonna. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to

1007
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:20.320
get them, try to get the answers. You know, maybe

1008
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.159
one day we will, I don't know. I think it's

1009
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:25.239
going to take the community to come together a little

1010
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.920
bit more, you know. And the reason I do this

1011
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:32.679
is I feel, you know, being an experiencer and a researcher.

1012
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.280
You know, I don't do it for my own reasons.

1013
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:39.280
I do it because it's my duty as a researcher

1014
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:45.280
and an experiencer to educate others on this subject. That's

1015
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:46.039
why I do it.

1016
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:50.679
I think that that's great because the thing is with

1017
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:52.920
with the big Foot subject and with dog Man and

1018
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.440
everything in between. It's not just a thing where stuff

1019
01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.400
happened in the past and now we're having to deal

1020
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:04.199
with it. There are people having experiences every day and

1021
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.280
as you said, like they've got questions, they're trying to

1022
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.360
figure it out, they're trying to work through it. And

1023
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:14.599
I think what you're doing is is very admirable and

1024
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:18.000
people need to be need to be doing that just

1025
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.440
because the new people that you know had a sighting

1026
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:25.920
probably today somewhere. Yeah, they're trying to trying to figure

1027
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:28.320
it out, man, And that's happening. You know, it's crazy.

1028
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.719
Yeah, absolutely, they're trying to wrap their head around it

1029
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:34.360
right now. You know, someone that's all in today or

1030
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:38.599
yesterday or whenever, you know, they're they're someone somewhere is

1031
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.480
sitting there at the night in their chair. They're trying

1032
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:45.880
to wrap their head around what they saw. That's that's

1033
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:51.559
my opinion, you know, Jeremiah, this has been.

1034
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:57.440
A a really eye opening discussion. Thank you for sharing

1035
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.960
what you have experienced over the I want to make

1036
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:05.880
sure that you were able to to share everything that

1037
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.800
you would want to share on the show tonight.

1038
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.079
Yeah I do, I I yeah, yeah, I was able

1039
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:14.880
to share most of it.

1040
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.599
I just said, if I just want to give some

1041
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:21.800
advices some people out to people out there that are

1042
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:26.559
just getting into this, don't don't ever go and don't

1043
01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:29.920
ever go looking for these things along ever ever, ever,

1044
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:34.840
ever ever and look up in the trees.

1045
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.440
I think a lot of people forget to look up.

1046
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.559
They're so concentrated on what's around them and what's on

1047
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.119
the ground. For track, as far as tracks and stuff

1048
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:49.280
like that, and tree breaks and structures and stuff like that.

1049
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.599
They forget to look up in the trees. But these things,

1050
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:56.039
dog men and vic food, they can climb with the

1051
01:02:56.079 --> 01:03:00.599
best of them, you know. So that's the other feace

1052
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.000
of advice I have to give to always look up

1053
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:07.199
and if you know, carry something to protect yourself. And

1054
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.840
like I said, even if it's you know, most of

1055
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:11.920
these things they just don't want anything to do with you.

1056
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:13.320
You know, this is the big Foot. They don't want

1057
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.239
anything to do with you, really, but they are cured,

1058
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:20.480
they can be curious. And there are aggressive groups and

1059
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.639
types of these things out there. You know. Not all

1060
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:24.760
of them want to sit around the fire and play

1061
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:27.719
the fiddle, you know what I mean with you, there

1062
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.639
are some aggressive ones out there, so you know, just

1063
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:33.079
be prepared to be safe. You know.

1064
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:39.679
That's great advice. Advice. Yeah, thank you, Thank you for

1065
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.840
sharing that, Jeremiah. And do you mind reminding, you know,

1066
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.880
my listeners how how they can keep up to date

1067
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:50.800
with with what you're doing, and maybe even how they

1068
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:53.679
can reach out to you if if they would.

1069
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.599
Like, sure, sure, sure yeah, we uh you can anyone

1070
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:02.079
can reach me on message on Facebook Messenger even you know,

1071
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:05.079
if Student more Control is calling me on the phone,

1072
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:08.800
I have no problem with that, you know. I'll even

1073
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.320
throw my phone number out there. It's five one eight

1074
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:14.559
eight oh six, eight oh seven month. If you've seen

1075
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.519
one of these things, or you need advice or whatever,

1076
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:19.840
feel free to call because I've been in that position

1077
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.159
before as well. And I know what it's like. I

1078
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:26.559
know how it can really dig deep at you, you know,

1079
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:33.159
and yeah, so and I just they can you know.

1080
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.880
We have our we have our idea International dog Man

1081
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:40.400
Project groups online. Check us out. Just type in International

1082
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.920
dog Man Project. And I think we have seventeen areas

1083
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:49.840
now where we have a IDP organization out of you know, Maine,

1084
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:56.239
New York, Southwest, Southeast Europe. We have all sorts of

1085
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:02.360
IDP groups now, and we have two more groups. It's

1086
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:05.079
called On the Trail in Search of Building Legends or

1087
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.880
are excuse me, that's the name of my show, On

1088
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:12.000
the Trails Legends. It's On the Trail Crypted and Paranormal Research,

1089
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:17.760
and we have Secret Society of the Paranormal Encrypted Research

1090
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:22.679
on Those are both on Facebook and you can check

1091
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:27.599
out our YouTube channel. It's Paranormal Encrypted Crossroads Research on

1092
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:31.719
YouTube and it's got all seven seasons of one of

1093
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.440
the one show on the Trail in Search of Living Legends,

1094
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:38.440
which that's where we interview experiences. And we have another

1095
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:42.000
show called The Cryptied Consortium Podcast where each week we

1096
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.639
cover a different cryptid you know, when we give our

1097
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.719
thoughts at the end of the show. But we you know,

1098
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:50.840
if we think they're real, of what we think they are,

1099
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.320
so on and so forth. So yeah, check us out.

1100
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:56.639
I think you won't be disappointed.

1101
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.119
That's great. I'll have those linked in the show notes.

1102
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.760
But thank you for coming on, Jeremiah. I got one

1103
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:07.079
more question for you afterwards. But I appreciate you sharing

1104
01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:07.760
on the show tonight.

1105
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:11.880
Yeah, I appreciate you having me, Jeremiah.

1106
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:13.920
I just wanted to take a minute to say thank

1107
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:16.400
you truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

1108
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.920
Society podcast and Jeremiah's experience with the juvenile Sasquatch is

1109
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:23.159
a prime example of how strange and powerful these creatures

1110
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:26.320
can be and how they've left lifelong impacts on those

1111
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.199
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1130
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