The Sasquatch That Jumped 30 Feet: A Hunter's Shocking Encounter

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's story isn't from a hiker or a camper. It's from a man who's spent over twenty years researching cryptids and paranormal creatures. But in the Adirondacks, something began watching him back. One moment, a log sits still on a quiet forest road. In the next, it's a leaping creature, flying across the woods in a way no human could. This isn't a legend, It's not a secondhand story. It's a first hand account from a man who witnessed the incredible. This is the story of Jeremiah Fountain and the sasquatch that jumped thirty feet. So stay with us, all I pick the Society. We got the privilege of talking to Jeremiah Fountain today. Jeremiah is a researcher, cryptid researcher for over twenty years, also an experiencer on both the sasquatch and the dog man's side. He's involved with many other things.

0:52 He's a podcaster, a fisherman, survivalist, hunter, founder of the group on the Trail Normal Research, and also one of the directors for the International dog Man Projects. So there's a lot of really interesting things we could talk about. Tonight is gonna be fun chat. But welcome to the show, Jeremiah. How's it going man, Thanks Jeremy. I'm doing well. How are you doing great? It's a it's a great Iowa night. It's starting to get warmer up here, so having a good night. Yeah, to talk about. It up here too, Yeah, absolutely, and it's always always good to talk about absolutely. Now you are down in the south, correct, No. I am up in the Adirondacks in upstate New York.

1:35 Oh my goodness. Really, Oh that's that's incredible. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm about I'm sure you've heard of well, you know white All, about white All. I'm sure. I'm about two and a half hours north of white Hall. So I'm in the upper part of the Adiran Backs. I'm about I could literally from our property, I could walk great to the Candy border. Oh wow, so that is that is very much so upper out of Yeah. Yes, I'm I'm very very close to Canada in the Saint Arts River and you know, so, yeah, I'm I'm right up there right up here. In uh that is north of the park or. Of the Addick Park. Yeah, I'm right on the edge of the park. I'm I'm in I'm in what they call the Saint Art's Seaway Valley and I'm right on the line of the Saint Lawrence Seaway Valley and the Adirondack Park. So I'm right in between two you know, two good two hotspots.

2:32 Oh yeah, definitely. Oh man, this this is great. This is great. Uh your chair, my, you've you've had so you're involved in many different things, which is really cool. I would love to let's take a few minutes if you'd be able to share. You know, what was it that first got you into the big foot field or was it something that got you into everything? Or maybe it's just been a wild ride the whole time. Well, yeah, you know, it's it's been a bild ride, Jeremiah. But you know, I, as long as I can remember, I've always been interested in cryptos. Uh. My mother, when I was about seven years old, bought me a book. It was called Unexplained Mysteries of the Twentieth Century. I don't know if you remember that book or not, but it was that was about seven, you know, I was I was little and my mom bought me the book, and uh, you know, I was flipping through the pages and finally I get to the section about big Va Yetti Latinus Monster, and I saw a picture of a beautiful woman named Patty. And uh, as soon as I saw Patty's picture, I was my little self was hooked.

3:38 And uh, you know that's how it all Uh, that's how it all started. You know, I moved away after high school. It became I was actually a professional, professional mixed martial artist for for a long time as well. I took a nasty kick to the head never really recovered from it, so I had to retire from that. So I ended up back up here. And he had as and I'm a big like I like you were saying, you know, I'm a big hunter. And in two thousand and one is you know, that's when I had my first encounter on our property. I come from a logging family. We own a lot of a lot of land, a lot of properties, you know, and my father used to tell me stories about, you know, weird things that went down on the property. My brother in law on several occasions had you know, they would follow him back to his truck when he was hunting down there. I didn't have an experience down there until two thousand and one.

4:38 Was it was muzzle oder season and I was coming back to my walking back to my truck. I had about a mile walk back to the truck. And I'm walking to the logging road and I get about a quarter mile from my truck and there's my father has a had an old skider down there, you know, like the old log skitters. And I looked and there's a there's a head that's peeping around the peeping around the logger skitter and with big gamber eyes and kind of me I took me off guard. You know, I really didn't know what I was looking at. It's something inside me told me that it was something different, you know, and being a hunter up here that we have a lot of wildlife up here, you know, bear, moose, white tail deer, you know, it's the wolves. People say wolves aren't we don't have them up here, but we do anyway.

5:32 And and I didn't I couldn't really put a finger on what this was. It was. It was looking at me. Well, the head went back behind the skitterer again, and you know, I at this point, I had just turned my head lamp on him starting to get dusky, and uh, I start walking again to get to the track. I tried to, you know, put that in the back of my mind, you know, like it was a regular animal or whatever. So I get to almost a tip of the skinner and I'm close to this point, I'm about forty foot away from the nose of the skidder, and I had it lit up, and all of a sudden, I see an arm with a hand wrap around the front edge of the skidder, and the head pops out and then it pop back behind the skidder again. And at this point I froze. I was just absolutely shocked. All of a sudden, this thing leaps out from behind the skidder.

6:25 There was two logs laying horizontal toward to me, and the first one was about fifteen feet in front of the nose of the skidder, and there was one next to it. There was about fifteen feet away from that. This thing come. This thing comes launching out from behind the skidder, hits the first log. Now, Jeremiah, when this this is, this is gonna blow your mind. They what happened was when it hit this, when it hit the log. Okay, you know how when people jump, when we say we do a free standing jump, right, how, we kind of we squat down, we swing our arms, you know, and make that long jump. But what this thing did is when it hit the log with its feet, it propelled itself off the front half of its feet. It didn't bend its knees, it didn't swing its arms. It just propelled itself off the tip of its feet. And that was just it was amazing. The athleticism, it was just incredible.

7:27 And once it hit that log, it went right to the next one did the same thing off the second one landed right in front of a tree about another fifteen feet away and went behind the tree. And at this point I'm thinking, do someone have a private zoo around here? I don't know about is someone that range and get loose? You know, because that's the only thing I could compare it to at the time, you know, with some sort of a great eight. You know. Now I know that's not the case. But anyway, back then, that was my original thought process on these things, is there were some sort of mountain eight or whatever. It pops back, it comes back around the front of the tree and it's just sitting there standing staring at me.

8:13 It's doing its bob back and forth. And it was a juvenile thing. It had to have been maybe five feet, not any toller than that. But people always ask me what did it weigh? What did it weigh? And if I had to guess Jeremia, I'd say this thing was at least one hundred and eighty five two hundred pounds. People say, well, that's not that big. Yeah, well for four foot eleven, that's pretty pretty put together, you know, for for eleven five foot, two hundred pounds is pretty pretty jacked, you know. And so at this point I wanted to get I was still I was freaked right out, you know. I, like I said, I did not know what this thing was and I didn't realize. I didn't realize.

8:55 It's like I started thinking about it after I got in the truck. Did I really just see one? But any way, back to what I was saying, I raised my muzzleoader, and I want everyone to know out there, I am not pro kill unless it's entire unless you're in dire need of self defense. I don't believe in shooting at these things and whatnot. And on top of that and they know what guns are. That's true. That's there's no doubt about that. As soon as I pulled my muscloader up, I wanted to get a better look at it or my scope, you know what, I need to see see it up close. As soon as I pulled my muscloader up, put it to my shoulder, the thing covers its set up with its arms and it backs behind that tree again, and that's the last time.

9:40 That's the last I saw of it. I don't know if they did that, dropped to the ground, you know where they drop, they'll drop down to the ground and they'll lay there, you know. I don't know if it did that or if it just it it flew through the underbrush and I didn't see it. I didn't I didn't hear anything. So I'm thinking, you got behind that tree and it just laid down. But I wasn't going to stick around and find out, you know. I just continued to my truck and I left, and it really it was very just a bizarre situation that I dealt with that first during that first encounter, just very weird, and I didn't have it ruined ruined my fishing, and it ruined my hunting for a couple of years, you know, knowing that they were that close to where I lived.

10:33 You know, it's very unique, man, because you know, I talked to a lot of people, but you really touch on some cool stuff, which is I think people forget how athletic these creatures are. So it's no surprise. How you know they're there one minute and then they disappear. Well, I mean, how how far can they jump? Like you said, what they could jump? They landed fifteen feet away, was that right? Fifteen feet to each log, and then another fifteen twelve, fifteen feet to the tree. And like I said, it propelled itself off the front, almost off its toes. You know, I propelled itself off the ball of its foot. It was incredible. And you're right, people, I don't think a lot of people realize how athletic and now powerful these things are. It's unbelievable and just unreal.

11:25 You think of like this is this is a small one that you said, just under five feet tall. Imagine you have the power of a adult male. What it could do? Yeah, if not more? Yeah, bose are mine. It's wild. It's wild. You had mentioned that it reminded you of orangutan. Is that because of the way that it looked like. It's the way it looked Yep, it was that burnish, a burnish brown hair. And I want to, I wanna, you know, get the point across out there, and it is not for they have it is hair. You know, a lot of people think that it's fur. It's not.

12:10 It's hair, you know, which you know, fur hair are much different as you know, you know, and a lot of people out there think it's fur, but it's not. But yeah, it looked like it looked like an ranguton, a smaller rangutan. You know. Uh, the head wasn't it wasn't really it didn't come to a cone. It was kind of in between roundish in between a cone, conical head, long arms, you know, built just jacked. I mean this thing was was jacked. It was very very impressive, impressive, but very uh you know, scary at the same time.

12:53 You know, I, like I said, at the time of the encounter, I had no idea what I was dealing with. It was just in my mind was all for the place. Oh absolutely, yeah. I can't imagine like the what you would have been dealing with as a person who doesn't have all that, you know, information that you have now as a researcher, and you're just trying to you know, your mind paradigms are shifting, and did did you notice any details of the face at all? Was that similar to an orangutan? You know? It was in between in between like an ancient human and an ape. You kind of like a cross in between the two. You know, I didn't really look like an orangutan facial facial feature wise, but it was like in between, you know, in between like an ancient human and some sort of ape. But as far as it looking dislike in orangutan.

13:49 No, Okay, that makes sense, you know, based off a lot of things I've heard. Did it show any emotion to you during that time? I think it was scared. It was curious, and it was scared when I uh, I think the curiosity is but either that I thought, you know, and I've come back to this over the years, over and over now, when this thing jumped out, I you know, I think to myself, was it you know, I knew I was this thing knew I was coming obviously. Now was it curious or was it trying to get away from me? Was it did it see me? Did it did it see me in the woods earlier and seeing me with that weapon, you know, and uh decided did it wanted to get the get the heck out of there fast?

14:32 Or was it you know, was it curious or was it scared? You know, I don't know. I think I would lean more towards after, you know, once it knew I had that weapon on me. I think it was more fear. When it put its hands over its head and it got back behind that tree. It was definitely, Uh, it was definitely afraid. But I think there was a lot of curiosity there as well, a lot of curiosity. Absolutely, And and after this experience, you know, how did this affect the rest of your life after you had this this visual, classy encounter that was pretty intense.

15:13 Yeah, Like I said, I ruined my hunting for for a while. I didn't want to go back down there because I got thinking to myself, well, there's one down there, There's gotta be there's gonna be more, you know. And this is this is before I started really researched, Like I said, it was before I really started researching. But yeah, it just just wild, just wild. I think it was like I said before, I I just think it was they wanted to get out of there, you know, just the same same as I did. We just both wanted out of there. Just happened to run into each other. You know. So this this kept you away from hunting and fishing for it sounds like a few years, then.

15:58 Did about three years? Three years? And then ye did you just eventually you're like, Okay, I'm going to give this another chance, time to go back again. Yeah. Yeah, I said, I'm not gonna let this thing or these things grew in my passions, you know. So you know, a couple of years, a few years later, I got back into my hunting, and nothing happened, like I said, until two thousand and seven. I was living I was living in Syracuse at the time. I came up here on the weekend to see my mother, and I you know, I decided my my tree stand needed some work, and I wasn't gonna sit and hunt. I just wanted to get down there and I wanted to fix my tree stand and get a he it ready for the next day. So I went down but I did bring my rifle. I you know, my father taught me.

16:52 I was from a young age, you know, don't go into it. It's unarmed, you know. And I still to this day I abide by that. And it's not for the sasquatches, like I said before, it's for other dangers in the woods, you know, and most of all being other people. If there's other you know, twisted people out there, you know, yeah, you never know what you're going to run into. But yeah, two thousand and seven, I went to work on the tree stand and I after a while, I got it done a lot quicker than I thought I was going to get it done. So I said, you know what, what the heck, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna sit for a while because there was a nice ten point buck in the area at that time that I wanted the harvest, and I said, maybe I'll catch them, you know. So I got my tree stand and I sat there, and I sat there about forty five minutes, and all of a sudden, I hear it got awful beller. Gives me chills just thinking about a beller scream grunt all at the same time, if that makes sense. And it just ran right through me, and I'm saying, what was that? And then my memories came back from my first encounter. I'm like, I hope it's it's not and I hope it's not related to that in my encounter anyway, shape or form, you know, but it's something, you know. The goose swamps on my arms and my hair stood up, and I said, I think it's time to get out of here. So I, uh, you know, I got out of the tree stand, and

18:23 I had quite a ways, you know, to walk back to the truck, like I said before, and I had my rifle over my right shoulder, and to get back to the truck from this particular tree stand to pick up the logging road I had to cross by. Uh, there's a natural arche in spring. Beautiful beautiful spring. I think that's one of the things that attracts them to that spot, is that spring. It's just beautiful. Anyway, I was coming around the bend and I got to the got to the pond, the spring, and right off the right off the bank of the walk of the right off the bank in the in the water a little about two feet into the water were real were still real shallow. I noticed what looked like a tree from where I was standing at the time. And I said, what's what's going on here? I thought I was going crazy, Jeremiah, I really did. I I there wasn't a tree there.

19:25 There hasn't been a tree there for as long as I've been alive. You know, why where'd it come? What's going on here? So I walked reluctantly, walked closer, and when I got about thirty feet away, the tree turned around and stared at me. And it was a female sasquatch, a mature, full grown female sasquatch. And we were about thirty thirty feet away from each other, looking at each other, dead in the eyeballs. And that would that would did that alone, that part of the encounter alone was very very disturbing. Just she and she she was she had that auburn color to her as well. Uh no hair on the face, the hair on the excuse me, the the facial feature the face. The face was like a lighter brown shade. It was in the auburn. Like the hair.

20:25 It was like a lighter brown tan almost in this one as well. Didn't have a full conical head. It was somewhere in between a round head and a conical head. And she had like a spiked hair do you know? And you know where did your hair don honey? You know, it was kind of spiked off the top of her head and it was just the way it was, and I guess. But yeah, she was big. She was big. She was all of eight feet. She was a big female. She was massive. The most impressive part about her was the buttocks area, just full of muscle. Just you could see through the through her hair. You could see the rip and the striations and her muscles. It was just incredible.

21:18 The most in One of the other most impressive parts about her was the thickness from her back to her chest. I would have to say two and a half three feet, you know, in thickness in probably probably three and a half four feet across the shoulders. And if she didn't weigh if she didn't weigh seven hundred, I think I have a theory. And it's not a theory, it's just what I think. I think people underestimate to wait these things a lot, you know, I don't think a lot a lot of people take into consideration how thick their bones really could be. The muscle mass, you know, is unreal.

22:03 So the bone, you know, to be a woodland creature like that. You know, they've got to have some pretty thick bone density, I would imagine, you know. So we're standing in there, just looking at each other, and she she her eyeball, her eyeball. She didn't move her head, but her eyes flickered, and she saw the tip of that rifle coming out of my popping up from behind my shoulder. And I said myself, oh, no, you know, what's she gonna do. So the look she gave me, Jeremiah, And I'm not saying she spoke to me in mind speak or anything, because she didn't. It was just a reading I got from her, and she was pretty much saying, good, if you go out. You ever seen the movie Tombstone where he says, skin in that smoke wagon and see what happens.

22:54 No, and people are gonna tear me apart for that. Yeah, that's that's exactly what the look she gave me was go ahead, skin it, skin that smoke wagon and see what happens. So and the other part of what I was reading for her was and if but if you don't, we aren't going to have any problems. So obviously you know I'm still here talking to you. So I didn't I didn't skin that smoke wagon, that's for sure. And even if I had wanted to, you know, she would have gotten to me way before I got that weapon off my shoulder. There's no doubt. There is no doubt. And uh, you know, and after that, you know, she took off.

23:37 She popped up out of the water, got on the bank, took took a leap and the distance was incredible, and I'll get to that in a second, but she took three leaps and she was gone. Well I just I walked back to the truck and I was I was an absolute mess, absolute mess. So I got a few boddy together and the next I wasn't going I wasn't about to go back down there alone. You know. That next day I grabbed the two buddies, we went down there. We found the tracks from when she jumped out of the water. She went sixty three feet in three leaps.

24:17 So that's what twenty twenty one feet one yeah averages out Yeah, twenty one feed leap sixty three feet and in just three leaps, you know, and that that's we're talking the seventy eight hundred pound creature. Like I said, you know, being able to move that fast and with that much power. It's incredible, absolutely incredible, just just unereal. And you know, and that's when, at that point in two thousand and seven, that's when I really decided I needed answers. And that's when I became a researcher instead of getting into the really into the research, you know, And I hooked up with we're talking this is years, you know, years back, two thousand and seven. I hooked up with a very well known bigfoot researcher, you know that.

25:14 And he had a podcast at the time, and I reached out to him. And I'm not going to say his name on the on over the air. I don't know if you want me to. Do that, but oh I don't care. You can go ahead if you want. Yeah, well, you know William. Jenny, Oh yeah, totally. Yeah, Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Nice. I hooked up with will And I was with Will for you know, quite about ten years, brand his brand j r G. His organization for him and everything, and you know, he taught me a lot, he did. But you know, I decided to, you know, after after spending time with him and his group, we parted on good terms and uh, I went out on my own, started my own group, started my shows, you know, YouTube channel you and all that, you know, and I got really got heavy into the heavy end of the research after that, you know. So, and then in two thousand and sixteen, we my wife and I were you're building.

26:16 We were building the cabin on the land that we live in now. And as we were building it, we were living out of a camper because we were, you know, building that building the cabin. And my wife actually one day she took the four wheeler to go pick blueberries and she came back and she was white as a ghost. And I'm like, wow, what's going on? What happened? She's like, you're never going to believe it. I said, you saw on, didn't ja? She said yep. And I'm like, you need to show me where. So we went to the blueberry patch or she had been picking blueberries, and she showed me the branch like that when it turned around walked away from her. She showed me the branch that it walked under, and I right off the bat I said to myself, that's got to be ten feet.

27:11 So I got up on the four wheeler. I had her hold the bottom of the tape measure down on the ground, and I had to reach reach as much as I could to get to the bottom of that limb to get a measurement. And to the bottom of the limb it was ten foot six inches. She said. When it walked under that limb to walk away from her, it hit only cleared the bottom of the branch by about three inches. So this thing was about ten foot three inches, give or take. And they were in the blueberry patch and she was right up close and next to this thing. She said, it stood it when it stood up, she hadn't even seen it. You know, that's how well And that's another thing, you know, how well they can camouflage themselves in their own environment. It's unbelievable, just unbelievable. And she didn't see it till it popped up.

28:04 So that and that summer we had a very very active summer with them. We did a lot of a lot of research in the land. I have a lot of other spots that we research up here. Now there's a big difference being you know, the ones that we have on our property, there's six to eight at any given time. They they stick around for the fall the summer and they leave you know, they leave late fall and they come back in the spring, and that during the wintertime is when the dog men show up. I know a lot of people say that, you know, they they have you know, their groups, they run together and they see them together. But I haven't noticed that up here.

28:48 It seems like up here they don't play so well together, if you will. So, yeah, in twenty sixteen is very very interesting, very interesting, uh fear while we were relding the cabin, you know, and uh, the ones on the ones on that piece of property that we're living on now, they're very they're very relaxed. They're they've never given us any trouble. They've never gotten aggressive, except for that look I was given by the female. You know, I don't really consider that aggressiveness though, more of a warning, I guess. But yeah, we haven't. We haven't had any problems with them whatsoever. I do. We do research a lot of other spots where you know, we've had boulders. You can feel the tension in the air. You can tell they're more aggressive groups than what we have. You know, we've had boulders thrown at us, logs thrown at us, you name it. You know, you know, you name it, they've been tossed out us. But we usually do. We don't when we go out looking, when we go out and do research, we don't wander around the woods all n because I found that if you do that, you're not gonna You're not gonna see him. And that's they want you to. Absolutely, you're just not gonna see him. You don't you go out looking, You're not going to see him.

30:11 But I tell you what, if you can make camp, you start a fire and you throw some bacon on a grill or on the on the fire, bacon on the fire, and uh, you know, they'll come in and check you out. If they're in the area, they'll come in and check you out. That's for sure. Yeah, you get it, dude. You yep, yep you are. And and I was saying that because man, it lines up with so many different things I've heard. I've never had a visual sighting myself, but right I can tell that that you get it how this all works. Absolutely? Can you try? Is it even possible to explain to someone who has never seen something that is eight foot tall what it's like to see when you saw that female sasquatch? Just to see something that that it's that much taller than you. What does it? What does that do to you as a human being?

31:14 Humbles you very quick, very quick, you know. And being an x MMA fighter, I was competing at the time too, and I wasn't scared of much, you know, but I knew that was one one match I wasn't gonna win. So yeah, it's it's hard to fathom, you know, Like you said, if someone's never seen one, it's very hard to get across to them. How how massive, how massive these things are. And like we were, we've been saying the whole time in the athleticism, the size that it's just incredible, incredible, It's just totally totally credible.

32:00 Does it does what you saw that? Does anyone in the athletic field, or MMA field or bodybuilding field even come close to what what you see when when you have a visual of them, not big guys. Not even close. And I've seen some pretty big dudes, you know, the heavyweights in the MMA circuits. There are massive men, you know, sixty five two hundred and sixty five pounds, three hundred, you know close. They're cutting eight down from three hundred pounds to make two sixty five, you know what I mean. And those are big men, you know, but put them next to a Sasquatch. It's eight foot, it's all, you know, weighing eight hundred pounds, they they're gonna look like a little boy, you know.

32:47 So yeah, it's uh, it's very hard to get someone to wrap their head around it. You know. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it twenty years later, you know. So yeah, it's just it's it's wild. It's wild in that in twenty sixteen we had uh, that's when we we had our first dog, Man Encore. My wife and I. I don't know if you want me to get into that at all. Yeah, i'd say if if it is part of the story, then I'd say, yeah, feel free to share, definitely, Okay. Okay, yeah, because there's a part of it I think there. I think these I think it's lengthd somehow, And it was you know, it was coming to you know, the time where the Sasquats were getting ready to it would have been time for them to take off. I don't know where they go for the winter, I don't know, but they always come back. You know. It's a pattern.

33:43 Every year. You know, but we we went to my parents for dinner. My parents live, you know, a few miles away on their piece of property, and they're all connected. We'd been down there for dinner and we came back. We were cruising down our road and on the other side of the not on my side, not on our side of the road where our property is, but on the other side of the road. Okay, I something about that other side. We an't on that part. That's that's all state land across from where we where we live. I had always been something about that piece of land, or that that land in particular. It's just always freaked me out. It's always giving me a bad gut feeling for some reason. So we're cruising down the road. My wife's got a little bit of a light foot and I said, Stacy, slow down, you're gonna hit that guy in the side of the road right there. And I'm thinking with someone doing out here walking around And we got close and we realized that we weren't looking at a person. She slammed on the brakes and uh, it popped out and in the middle of the road and turned and looked right at us, and the when it was brown and you. We were so close to this thing.

35:04 You could see the saliva pouring out of its mouth, you know it was, and it just stared, just stared at us. Very smug. The only way I can describe the look it was giving us was a very smug, arrogant look, you know, if that makes sense, very cocky looking, you know, like I can do to you whatever I want to do to you, you know, some along those lines, you know. Excuse me. So he got back down, and it got back down on all fours and it ran over to our side of the our side of the road, onto our property. So I'm like, you know, okay, great, this is lovely. And uh we immediately got out of the car. I what we got in the camper and he locked the doors. I loaded the weapons because I I you know, I had dealings with sasquatch. You know, that was turned in it turned into a normal thing, you know, with our research and living on this piece of property. But this seeing this dog man was a totally different experience, and it was scary. You know. So we're laying there and we're trying to just chill out and we're talking about, you know, what we just saw.

36:21 What did we just see. And all of a sudden, something slammed into the side of the camper boom, and it just about it shook the camper so bad it felt like the camper is going to tip over. So we heard Harry Carey going on outside the you know, we heard tree snapping and branches breaking and grunts. Makes me so we The next day, I wake up and I walk out, get out of the camper, and there's trees not down, there's locks all over the place. There's tracks, you know, there's big foot tracks, and there's dog man tracks.

37:05 Makes me wonder if that big one and these are eighteen in tracks, that's that big one that my wife saw that was Those were his tracks. I could tell because I casted many of his footprints in the past before this. So, you know, it makes me wonder if they if this thing was close to the camper, and and that sasquatch was trying to protect us somehow. I don't know, But all I know is, Uh, there was two two creatures or animals or whatever, beans, whatever you want, entities, whatever you want to call them, going at it outside of the camper. And it was unreal. All the weird things I've experienced in my life that was that was That's right at the top of the list for sure.

37:55 It must have been or just a horrifying experience. Do you guys have any Do you guys have any neighbors that are are close to it all or no? We have one one neighbor that's about two miles down the road, but we we got a little land feud a few years back, so we really don't speak to them. But so I've never had a chance to come out and ask them if they've had anything weird to go go on, you know, on their property. I imagine, you know, I imagine two miles for these things is nothing. So it wouldn't surprise me if they've had experiences with them, you know. So, yeah, but we don't have many. There's not many neighbors close or just that one. The one neighbor, a gentleman and his mother. They're about two miles down the road, So I don't know if they've experienced anything.

38:50 I think, yeah, this might be a good time to to ask. You kind of alluded to something at the beginning. After experiencing interactions with more than a few of these Sasquatch in the area, have you come to any conclusions or thoughts about what you think, what it is that's that's going on with them, How would you categorize or classify them. Oh, that's a good one. That's tough one. You know, like I told you, like I said before, and I think this is what you were just referring to. I used to believe they were a primate, an undiscovered primate, you know, more a little more adapted to walk on two feet and whatnot. I used to you know, I thought there's some sort of mountain mountain girl, mountainy or whatever.

39:51 But that didn't you know, once I got out in my own, once I started doing more research and uh, you know, got out my own, weird things would start to have and you know, after activity, we'd see orbs, orbs would follow us out of the woods, and you know, weird stuff like that. Things in the crafts and all the how do I put this, all these weird phenomenons Grama, They're they are all interconnected somehow. I don't know how, but in my my opinion, I think they're all interlinks somehow, all these different Yeah, without a doubt, all these different phenomenons, they're all linked. I mean, crafts in the sky orbs, just spirit. You know, we've had par a lot of paranormal stuff happened inside the house, you know. We they bang on the walls outside, you know, when they when they feel like messing around, you know. And uh, but yeah, I I I don't know. I really don't know what they are. I think, uh, I think they're very ancient. Ka.

41:01 I don't think they're an animal, and I don't think they're a human. I think there there's something all in their own if that makes sense, some something all in their own category. I think, you know, they have. I think they have abilities that we can't fathom yet, that we can't even begin to fathom. So yeah, I I really don't know, Jarah, be honest with you. I've I've battled with that in my head for for years now of what these things actually are, you know, and with their with their purposes and what they're doing doing here and and whatnot. You know. So yeah, I wish I had an answer for that question, but but I just don't.

41:45 I think it makes sense though. It's just a thing where you're trying to figure it out as you go along. What kind of things are going on inside the house. Things falling off the walls. I've got pictures of spirits flying through the air and inside the house. I will get up. I there was one. I'll give you an example. One night I got up. I didn't know I had gotten up. I didn't realize till the next day. I look, and I'm going through my phone, and there's pictures and video from me walking around the cabin with my phone, with my phone filming and taking pictures. And I catched this this small beam, and you're I'm you're, I mean, You're gonna think I'm crazy, and everyone else out there is probably gonna think I'm nuts too, But I've got the picture to prove it. It looked like a little tiny it looked like a ferry with wings floating in the air.

42:53 And that's the that's the only way I can describe it. I yeah, I'm definitely gonna send you that picture because you got to check it out. It's unbelievable. Yeah, things falling off the walls, noises in the night, waking us up, you know, from upstairs up in our attic, just very very very weird things. One that we had when we moved we moved down to North Carolina in two thousand and eighteen, I think it was. And when we moved there, we were looking for a good spot to research, you know, and right luckily down the road from the house we were living in, there's an old train trustle and we started doing a lot of investigating there. And I don't know if once you become in contact with these things, if they sort of tag you, and you know what I mean, do you know what I mean, they kind of tag it.

43:54 I think they tag you and they unlock you in a way. Okay, yep, yeah. So that yeah, I think we're on the same page. Yeah, because we we did see we did we had a lot of action down there, a ton of action and more we saw. We did see a sasquatch. One night, we were under the train trustle under the bridge and it was myself, my wife and my h my daughter who was seventeen at the time, and we heard footsteps and then walking through the bayou like heavy footfall, two legs and I'm sitting here, Okay, here we go, you know, and they're gonna come out. When we saw eye shine, we saw blue eyes shine and red eyes shine. And there was four individual sets of eyes, but three of them disappeared, but the blue the blue set kept walking and under the train. Trustle there's a brook that runs through there. Okay, there's a brook, and they were this sasquatch went up on the other side. Okay, he was on the other side of the bridge, the other side of the brook. He walked up the hill and I lit him up my spotlight. I just let him right up and uh he was. He was gray, yeah, like almost even a silver and uh the vegetation I had measured it afterwards was about seven feet seven seven and

45:25 a half feet tall, the vegetation was, and his head was a good foot over. You know. We could see from the from the chest up, so we could see about two feet of him, you know. And uh, he was. He was massive, bigger than that female I saw. But he also looked a little bit different. Okay, this one, this one looked more apish than the other. Than the other two I didn't the ones I had seen up here. This this one looked did look more ape like. But he didn't pay us any mind. He turned and looked at us once and continue to walk walked away. And that's the last week saw them. That's the last week saw the.

46:11 S do you think there's different variations within let's let's think of like Sasquatch as a whole. Do you think there's some then that have human like features and some that are more ape like. Yeah, see, okay, just in nor I believe, just in North America alone, we have different types, you know, let alone around the world, like with the Eddie and the Gaguay and you know the alley, you know, those are separate. I think, I believe right here in North America there's I think there's you know, four or five different subspecies of these things, depending on the region, You're right, So yeah, you know, and they all they all look different. And you know, even the same type. For even if there is different types, you know, the even one of the type, we're going to look. Everyone's going to look. Every individual is going to look different a little bit, you know.

47:06 But the the this one in North Carolina looked totally different. You could tell it was a different a different subspecies in my opinion, you know, I think, I I know, I can feel it, and I got it was a different It was a different subspecies, you know, And a lot of the a lot of the in North Carolina, especially more so than up here. We had a lot of the paranormal stuff going on, like with the orbs, you know, after we hadn't after we had that encounter with the gray one. You know, we were followed out of the woods for an hour and I got it. I got that on video too. This orb followed us around for about a half an hour. It was about sixty feet away from us, at about thirty feet up in the air, and it floated right in front of us, and it would get small, and it would get big, and my wife would my wife has some abilities, and she was trying to communicate with it and talk to it.

48:05 And every time she would talk to it or ask her a question, it would get bigger, get big, big, big, big big, and then it would shrink right back down again to the or which yep, an orange orb, yeah, yep. And we saw a lot of a lot of crafts, you know, a lot of crafts in the sky down that, trustle just a lot of weird things. A lot of weird things happened down there. It was definitely a hot spot, you know. And I believe these things. I will say this, and I would have laughed at this, you know, years back. But I think there's a chance it could be an interdimensional.

48:47 Did she start to have those abilities before or after she started to have interactions with with Bigfoot? She has hadn't since she was a little girl. But they have intensified since we started getting into this, you know, years back. They they seem like they've intensified her in her senses are sharpening, you know, with her abilities. Yeah, they they've they've definitely grown more powerful, if you will, even since we've been married, you know, they've gotten more powerful. And her abilities we did see, you know, a lot of crafts in the sky. And yeah, I'll tell you this too, man. I I kind of like I leave this out a lot of my interviews. I do because it's I still had problems fathoming that I saw this thing. There.

49:45 We're we're on top of the bridge and we can hear footfall, footfall coming and I have this on video and still shot as well. So well, I will send you these tomorrow as well, just to show you ice. So we started filming and Stacey started taking snapshots and I was on the camera the video, and we didn't see anything. We didn't see a thing, you know, And then all of a sudden, after we hear the footfall, go away, these blue orbs come down, come flying out of the sky. They do figure eights in front of us, you know, about ten times, and then they shoot back up into the sky. And this was right after we heard this footfall. So when we get home, we start we analyze the video and lo and behold what it looks like. It's an upright whatever this thing is. It was upright walking, gray in color, and it looked like a reptilion creature, and it was carrying a massive, dead wild boar. I know, that sounds crazy.

51:10 I've never heard anything like that before. That is that's really unique. So it was the reptilian was carrying a wild boar. Wow, the dead wild boar. Okay, I've heard that, but not with that. Yeah, you and me both. That was the first I've ever heard or seen heard anything like that, you know, And you're right, you hear about sasquatch bigfoot carrying around dead animals. But you know, I couldn't believe it. And this thing it had to in the I couldn't tell how tall it was because you know the video. If I would have seen it in person, I would have able to judge it more but it had to. It was the least as all as I was. I'm six to one, so it was a least of all as I was. But it had that to be able to carry, and it had it was cradling. It had that borer cradled in its arms, like carrying it like nothing. Jeremiah.

52:05 It was just crazy. Three three long fingers on each arm, on each hand had the you know, the reptilian looking snout and it was gray in color. Yeah, walking right through the water, you know, water moccasin alligator infested water, right, you know, it's just just crazy. It still blows my mind. But yeah, I would definitely send you those send you that stuff tomorrow. It was just crazy. And uh yeah, after crashed in the sky at that spot, orbs crashed in the sky. Uh, you know, a lot of vocalizations, you know, sightings. It was a pretty wild spot. It's where my wife's mother lives down in eastern North Carolina.

52:58 But we did move we you know, we moved back up here in two thousand and twenty one. It was the spring of twenty twenty one and Turkey season had just started here and I went down went down behind the At this point, the cabin's belt. We were living in it at the time. I take a walk out back. I want to try to see if I can harvese myself with turkey. And there was nothing new was I didn't see any here any It was the dead morning. The woods were extremely extremely quiet. As I'm walking back, I feel like I'm being watched. I can feel something with eyeballs on me. There was no doubt about it.

53:46 Something told me to look to my left. When I looked to my left, I see an upright wolf, locking creature, gray in color, up the year, straight up standing ears. I was about I would say, eighty feet away, and it had its arms and I have this pit. I have a picture of it. I'll send you that tomorrow as well. I uh, it had a dead It had its arms wrapped around a dead deer, and the deer you can see the bowels of the deer hanging out of it and spatter it all over the ground. And it just it stared at me. And I had to to I HAE had to make twelve gage on me.

54:32 And it makes me wonder, you know, if I hadn't had that gun, and it hadn't had lunch already. But I had been on the menu, you know. Oh yeah, absolutely that was so that was that was a pretty uh pretty scary scary experience. But yeah, I was able to get a picture. And then I turned around and I bought I backed up, I walked, I walked out, you know, facing this thing. In case it did take a charge at me, I would have had time to react. But all it did was it just kept its eyeballs on me and followed me. Was its turbit turning? Its head didn't move, any of its body didn't move, its arms didn't move, the dear was holding just moved its head followed me to make sure I was leaving. Yep.

55:24 So yeah, that was pretty intense as well. I want to ask you something, as someone who's been in the field for over twenty years, to get your thoughts on it, because I am very new to the field. Why would it just over five years and when it comes to Bigfoot, probably a year and a half to two years, so super new, right, talked to a lot of people, but very new. Now, looking over the last twenty years, do you feel like things are getting more and more uh more people are talking about them. It's hard for me to tell because I just don't know if more people are listening and that's why people are reaching out, or if it feels like as we go further and further along there's more people or more things that are happening. I don't know. I'm trying to work through it.

56:21 I think it's I think it's a you know what, I think it's a little bit of both. I think people are getting more comfortable talking about it because I think it's it's starting to people are starting to realize that these things are real. People are and you know, I think more people are seeing them. And with the developments, you know, with like you know, how it's going up and they're building housing developments in rural areas now and we're encroaching on their territory, you know, so people are gonna people are seeing more of them. So I think, you know, people are getting more either're getting more being more acceptable of these things, you know. So I think it's a little a little bit of both that you mentioned.

57:06 You know, people are just you know, there's they're seeing them and they're they're feeling more comfortable talking about it. You know. Yeah, I think that's that is a it's a great way to put it. I think. More. I talked to people, it just feels like certain areas of the US, uh, you know when people say window areas or you know, the veil is thing. I think that's that's an absolute real thing. I mean, there are certain areas absolute country where just stuff is, stuff is coming from somewhere, man, or it's just showing me, dude, I don't know what's going on. Absolutely absolutely, you know. And like I said earlier, I would have I would have laughed at like the whole portal interdimensional thing years ago. But I truly think there's that's a pretty good Uh. I think that's a huge possibility.

58:03 I really do. I mean if I mean, my partner Nick Valente and I were talking about this the other night, my podcast partner and who I run help from the International dog Man Project. Now, we were talking about that. You know, there's just more and more things people are reporting seeing, you know, more creatures, more you know, more cryptid, the more paranormal stuff going on. So that coming from somewhere. And here's the deal. You know, I can't tell you how many times I picked up I've seen a nice track, you know, in an open field, okay, and disappear no no trees around nothing. It did just one track, you know, especially when you see it in the snow. You know what I mean? Where are the other tracks? Right? You're in a wide open You're in a wide open field.

59:03 Where are the tracks? So are these things able to access? You know, a paroral or something? It will? I don't, I don't know, I did, I don't know. I I think it's a strong, strong possibility. I mean, physics has already proven there's other there's other dimensions, you know, So I don't know why people think that's such a far out there idea. You know, you've mentioned that. You you know, you've had multiple times where you've had visual sightings, so you're far past that. But what is yes, you know, what is the the Is there a main goal that you're working towards where it's like if you accomplish that, you can walk away from this like I I did what I was trying to do, We're done? Or can you ever walk away from this?

59:58 I'm I'm never gonna be able to walk away from this. It's an obsession now, and I don't know if it's a healthy obsession or not, but it's I'm it's it's it's an obsession. I need. I need more answers. I don't know if all if I'm ever going to get them, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to get them, try to get the answers. You know, maybe one day we will, I don't know. I think it's going to take the community to come together a little bit more, you know. And the reason I do this is I feel, you know, being an experiencer and a researcher. You know, I don't do it for my own reasons. I do it because it's my duty as a researcher and an experiencer to educate others on this subject. That's why I do it.

1:00:46 I think that that's great because the thing is with with the big Foot subject and with dog Man and everything in between. It's not just a thing where stuff happened in the past and now we're having to deal with it. There are people having experiences every day and as you said, like they've got questions, they're trying to figure it out, they're trying to work through it. And I think what you're doing is is very admirable and people need to be need to be doing that just because the new people that you know had a sighting probably today somewhere. Yeah, they're trying to trying to figure it out, man, And that's happening. You know, it's crazy.

1:01:28 Yeah, absolutely, they're trying to wrap their head around it right now. You know, someone that's all in today or yesterday or whenever, you know, they're they're someone somewhere is sitting there at the night in their chair. They're trying to wrap their head around what they saw. That's that's my opinion, you know, Jeremiah, this has been. A a really eye opening discussion. Thank you for sharing what you have experienced over the I want to make sure that you were able to to share everything that you would want to share on the show tonight.

1:02:10 Yeah I do, I I yeah, yeah, I was able to share most of it. I just said, if I just want to give some advices some people out to people out there that are just getting into this, don't don't ever go and don't ever go looking for these things along ever ever, ever, ever ever and look up in the trees. I think a lot of people forget to look up. They're so concentrated on what's around them and what's on the ground. For track, as far as tracks and stuff like that, and tree breaks and structures and stuff like that. They forget to look up in the trees. But these things, dog men and vic food, they can climb with the best of them, you know. So that's the other feace of advice I have to give to always look up and if you know, carry something to protect yourself. And like I said, even if it's you know, most of these things they just don't want anything to do with you.

1:03:11 You know, this is the big Foot. They don't want anything to do with you, really, but they are cured, they can be curious. And there are aggressive groups and types of these things out there. You know. Not all of them want to sit around the fire and play the fiddle, you know what I mean with you, there are some aggressive ones out there, so you know, just be prepared to be safe. You know. That's great advice. Advice. Yeah, thank you, Thank you for sharing that, Jeremiah. And do you mind reminding, you know, my listeners how how they can keep up to date with with what you're doing, and maybe even how they can reach out to you if if they would.

1:03:53 Like, sure, sure, sure yeah, we uh you can anyone can reach me on message on Facebook Messenger even you know, if Student more Control is calling me on the phone, I have no problem with that, you know. I'll even throw my phone number out there. It's five one eight eight oh six, eight oh seven month. If you've seen one of these things, or you need advice or whatever, feel free to call because I've been in that position before as well. And I know what it's like. I know how it can really dig deep at you, you know, and yeah, so and I just they can you know. We have our we have our idea International dog Man Project groups online. Check us out. Just type in International dog Man Project. And I think we have seventeen areas now where we have a IDP organization out of you know, Maine, New York, Southwest, Southeast Europe. We have all sorts of IDP groups now, and we have two more groups. It's called On the Trail in Search of Building Legends or are excuse me, that's the name of my show, On the Trails Legends. It's On the Trail Crypted and Paranormal Research, and we have Secret Society of the Paranormal Encrypted Research on Those are both on Facebook and you can check out our YouTube channel. It's Paranormal Encrypted Crossroads Research on

1:05:27 YouTube and it's got all seven seasons of one of the one show on the Trail in Search of Living Legends, which that's where we interview experiences. And we have another show called The Cryptied Consortium Podcast where each week we cover a different cryptid you know, when we give our thoughts at the end of the show. But we you know, if we think they're real, of what we think they are, so on and so forth. So yeah, check us out. I think you won't be disappointed. That's great. I'll have those linked in the show notes. But thank you for coming on, Jeremiah. I got one more question for you afterwards. But I appreciate you sharing on the show tonight.

1:06:07 Yeah, I appreciate you having me, Jeremiah. I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast and Jeremiah's experience with the juvenile Sasquatch is a prime example of how strange and powerful these creatures can be and how they've left lifelong impacts on those who encounter them. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to us on YouTube hit the bell icon so you don't miss any new episodes and share this one with a friend who's into bigfoot, cryptids or just loves a good mystery. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please be sure to follow the show and if you could leave a review. It really helps more people find us. And if you or someone you know has had a big foot encounter, especially in the Adirondacks of New York, I want to hear from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Also, don't forget to grab your tickets for Sasquatch Summerfest, happening July eleven through the twelfth at Oakridge, Oregon. Big for Society listeners get a special deal with two day passes for the price of a one day pass using code BFS at checkout.

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