Sept. 15, 2024

The Savage Sasquatch of Mississippi with Joe Flippo (Archive)

Join Bigfoot Society for a gripping episode featuring seasoned hunters Joe Flippo as he shares his spine-chilling encounters with Bigfoot in Mississippi. Joe recounts eerie ongoing activity around his home, including night-time screams, owl...

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Season 1

Join Bigfoot Society for a gripping episode featuring seasoned hunters Joe Flippo as he shares his spine-chilling encounters with Bigfoot in Mississippi. Joe recounts eerie ongoing activity around his home, including night-time screams, owl imitations, and close encounters by his bonfire, revealing the behavior and physical characteristics of these elusive creatures. He also describes a bizarre sighting in the Divide Wildlife Management Area, detailing a creature resembling a giant baboon with unique white features and black eyebrows. This episode goes in-depth with their stories, offering Bigfoot enthusiasts an exciting dive into Sasquatch lore and these mysterious, often alarming encounters.Resources -

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and now let's get on with the show. All right,

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Big for Society got the privilege of talking to Joe again.

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You may remember we talked to Joe a few months back.

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He's a hunter from Mississippi and he gets called in

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to interesting situations where people are having maybe not the

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best encounters with bigfoot on their properties. But how are

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you doing today, Joe?

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I'm good, pretty good. I hope your day is going well.

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Yeah, it's it's a good day.

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Just kind of chilling out and we're getting a little

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bit of rain in Iowa, but we need it, so

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that is all right for me.

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So, yeah, we were getting a little bit of rain here.

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It's been cloud the last couple of days.

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It's a fall time for sure, so we'll get our

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week a fall hopefully before it turns into winter.

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Absolutely, so around here, you know, I hear that sometimes

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the Bigfoot activity starts to amp up a little bit

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in the fall. Is that the same thing down in Mississippi?

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Or yeah, pretty much it's in my area where I live.

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It amps up between the middle of September all the

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way up through February, and then it kind of dies down.

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In the summer months for the most part is quiet.

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But this year we had activity a little bit all

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all summer or not not every day or anything like that,

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but just little stuff here and there. But for the

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most part in the autumn time or they're transitioning from

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eating mostly plants to going into finding their nuts or acorns,

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and then of course mostly a meat dit and a

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winter time.

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So stuff does pick up around.

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Here, absolutely.

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And we had been chatting a little bit on Facebook

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back and forth, and it sounds like there's some some

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interesting things happening pretty close to your area recently, would

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you be able to share a little bit about that.

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I have stuff ongoing a lot. I tell people a

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lot of times, and it seems like I'm a magnet

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for these animals. But ever since I've moved here in

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this house, we've had continuous activity, or not every day

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like in.

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Some places I live.

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But this time of year, for example, when the sun

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starts going down around six thirty, twilight hits, it's like

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somebody opens up the gates of hall and you hear

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all kind of screaming and it's multi octaves, and it

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might last one scream, might last two or three minutes,

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and then it be done for the day. And you

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might hear all that two or three times and it's done,

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and it may be answered and it may not. And

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I'm not sure what that's about. That's something unique to

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down here. But I've had friends come over h that

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I was telling about a couple of years ago about it,

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and they are researched. I'm not a researcher, I'm a haunter,

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but they research and they come over them while they.

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Equipment though they heard it for the first time, and

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it shocked them so much that they completely forgot about

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their equipment. They were just sitting there saying, what in

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the world how other people around here not.

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Hear this and listen? I don't know how they don't

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hear it. I hear treason.

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Why I am to come over and and listen to

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the stuff that.

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Stuff like that. There's a lot of owl imitations this

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time of year. And even though there are owls, you

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can tell the difference. You know, an owl will will

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make the same sound every time because it's an animal

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that doesn't.

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When you get an owl that starts out sounding like

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an owl and then morphs centure, sounding like a crow,

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and then sounding like a primate lifeing or whatever, you know,

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that's that's.

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Not an owl. You know, even though owls, especially barn owls.

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tell the difference if it's an owl or you know,

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for one thing, an owl doesn't sound like it's five

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hundred pounds on a blasting PA system and the volume

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is is a thing that I look for for that too.

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Yeah, there's been there's been a.

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Lot of stuff going on back and forth.

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You know, I had.

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Sasquatch so crawl up to my camp or my barfire

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I have out here in my backyard. Had one that

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was standing in the tree line and the other one

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crawled up. And I was sitting around though, listening to

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some music and stuff, and I saw it and it

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acted like it though I didn't think I could see it,

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so I snapped a picture of it.

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You can see the eye.

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Shine the two creatures in the picture when they were there,

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you know, stuff like that.

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How high up would you estimate the eye shine was

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in the picture.

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The one in the tree line was probably at least

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eight and a half feet tall.

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The one on the ground, it barely crawled up. I

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watched it.

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I got out the next day, and I hadn't had

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my grass.

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Cut at the time.

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He'd see where it and crawled up and laid there

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for little while, and you could see the outline of it,

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but it kind of spider crawled up.

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I can't explain how they do it. More than more than.

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That, I guess the elbows and the knees. The elbows

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are out and the knees are up, but it's almost

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like a crouching cat. But they cross sideways and it's weird,

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you know, but it's kind of freaky if you're not

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if you're not expecting something like that. And I haven't

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seen that a lot, but in this area I've seen.

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I've had these features coming on my property since I

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moved in here.

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A matter of.

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Fact, the first day that we were moving in, there

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was a tree within five feet of the west side

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of my house.

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I had a tree twist in it.

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And while we were moving in, I just got married

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to my wife at that time.

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Know, I was telling her, you don't look there.

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That looks like a big foot twist on that tree,

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and she was laughing at me and her her son

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was laughing at me until we had windows scream at

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us from across the fence, like directly across from that tree.

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And their job dropped.

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And let's see, I told you that's probably what that is.

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And the house that we're in now had been vacant

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for a while.

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I think that they were getting up under the porch.

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And the younger ones was staying around there after we

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come around and they got upset because we moved into

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their house.

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There's been things going.

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On absolutely, So you mentioned screams a few times. Are

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these do they sound almost like human screams. There's just

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something that's just completely different than any other sound.

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They they sound like human screams, just like you screamed

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at the top of your lungs, just one loud blasts.

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That happens more in the early fall time. In the summertime,

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it sounds more like a loud yawn like you know,

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like that, but it sounds like something took a deep

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breath and almost like they woke up and they had

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the huge lungs and they yawned as loud as they could.

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And that happens in the early evenings a lot of

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times when the sun goes down right right around then.

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And I've always attributed that to a yeah, and that's

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what I thought it was. And I'd hear this on

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podcasts and stuff, and that color a moan. That'll be like, well,

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you know, why would an animal that be that wants

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to stay.

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A moan like that? And to me, it makes sense

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if they if they woke up, they were just.

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Yawning and and uh stretching or whatever, you know, that

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makes sense to me.

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But that's what it sounds like to me.

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That's very it's very interesting. Have you heard of any uh,

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any sounds that sound like whoops in around your area.

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Yes, I hear them all year long. Oh uh.

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You you walk out outside and you can go like, well,

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this this week, I haven't been out and last couple

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of nights, but Tuesday night we I was out there

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and it was quiet, and.

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I heard like that right there and it was just

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one time.

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Well about five minutes later I heard a tree knock,

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just one loud whack.

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Sounds like somebody took a.

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Piece of oak and hit it up against a pine

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tree and its echo real loud. So I've learned that

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I don't know how it is in every area, but

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down here where I'm at, if if something answers another animal,

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it doesn't do the same thing. For example, if if

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it makes an owl mimic, it's not going to answer

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with an al mimic. Somewhere else that's gonna be either

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a whistle or a quick foot or a tree knock,

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or if it starts out with a tree knock, Uh,

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there's gonna be a vocalization, but it's not going to

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answer tree knock with a tree knock. And you know,

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I've I've got into arguments with people that that say well, now,

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if they have a tree knock that's said I'm right here,

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and another one's got a tree knock over there, staying

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I'm over here, and you know, it's not worth arguing

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over for me. I know what happens here, and I

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can just talk about what I've experienced in my real life.

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So what they do over there, I guess it's up

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to their interpretation. But you'll hear tree knocks here, You'll

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hear our ammics. You'll hear a turkey call at midnight,

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you know, or.

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At one in the morning.

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Everybody knows turkeys are asleep when the sun goes down.

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You don't hear you don't hear hens chirping at midnight

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or one in the morning, or you don't hear a

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morning dove holler after ten pm and before three am.

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You know, it's.

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Those sounds that I listen or that maybe natural sounds,

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but they're out of context or they're out of time.

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You know, if you're if you're eating dinner at eleven

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thirty and you hear at alot, you know that that's

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that's not normal because at al is out at knight,

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and there's things like that that goes.

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On Joe, have you ever speaking of sounds that maybe

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don't belong in a certain area. Have you ever heard

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sounds that really don't belong in your area, like totally

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out of context for the woods?

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Yes, I heard.

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I've heard things in the woods that sound like a

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line boring.

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You know. Uh, it sounds like, uh, you listen you

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listen to.

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Horror movies or or you listen to animal documentary word

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you hear just this loud roar that sounds kind of

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like an alligator growling. I know what that sounds like,

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Like an alligator will will growl and make the water vibrate.

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It's a real deep, gutteral growl. And I've heard I've

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heard that in the woods.

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A lot of times and not find nothing or have

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anything that that I can associate it with. And to

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me that if you look at it in the Sasquatch context,

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that's an animal that's that's hid that you're getting too

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close and he's like, you know, back off, I'm here, uh,

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you know, and it's just like a with a dog,

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back off, or you're in my space. But I've heard,

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I've heard things like that. I've also heard, Oh I live,

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I live within five miles of two different watersheds, and

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the nearest watershed is about a mile and an eight

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straight behind me through a cow pasture, and it's within

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line of a line of size down there. Sometimes you

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will hear something to holler.

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It starts out like a why, and it ends up

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in a howl.

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And I can't, I can't, I can't ammic that, because

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I don't think my vocal cords are made to do that.

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But after it does that, the colodies will kick in

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and they will they will stir up, and then all

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of the dogs in the neighborhood will be.

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Quiet big for society will be right back after these messages.

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And you'll hear a little while later, it may be

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an hour, an hour and a half later. Uh, you'll

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hear a loud wail and followed by woot, and then

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all the dogs in the neighborhood go crazy, and uh.

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You know this is this is happening after ten p m.

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I'm setting outside sometimes from from six in the evening

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by my fire up to one two in the morning,

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and this is this is all happening well in the

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middle of the knights, when you know there be some knights,

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when for example, a week and a half ago, we Oh,

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I was outside and you heard every cow in the

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in the area seemed like they were moaning or moving

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and low end and there was something hollering in the

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in the woods north of me and in that direction

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there's not any cows for about five miles, but it

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sounded like a bull got his testicles hung on barbed

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wire and it was loud, you know. And I had

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my younger.

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Sons like, what is that?

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I said, I don't know, but I'm not going in

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the woods to find out, because whatever that is is

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either hurt or he's baiting somebody to come in and

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check on a bull that's hurt.

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So I were leaving that alone.

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Yeah, that's a good call.

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I'm not going to go near any creature that's that's

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having a bad day like that, for sure, or anyone

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that's pretending to. But have you ever talked to your

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neighbors about to see if theyve had issues on their

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property as well?

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Yeah? I actually run a dog kennels for a dog

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trainer and his family owns, like I guess, probably three

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thousand acres within the family around that part of the county,

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and it's just the property starts across the road for

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me and goes north and west, if that makes sense.

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And he's got a first cousin.

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When I first started working for him, he saw the

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decali Sasquatch and my phone number that says if you've

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seen me, call me on the back of my truck.

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And he's asking me about that. He's like, you believe

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in that? I was like, yeah, why you don't believe

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in that? He said, I don't know. I said, well,

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they're around here, and he said, well, I've never seen one.

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He said, But my son and got in the tree

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stand when he was thirty years old, and about eight

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in the morning, he called me up with his cef

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on said Daddy, I need you to bring your gun

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and get a get in your truck and drive down

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here and get me. And it was only about two

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hundred or three hundred yards from the back porch, he said.

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And he laughed at him. He said, why in the

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world do you need me to do that? You ain't

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no kid walked back up here. He said, no, Jeddy,

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there's something in these woods. He said. He's shaking trees

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and I ain't coming down. He said, I'm afraid come down.

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He said he went down there and got him. Said

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they didn't hear nothing, didn't see nothing. But on the

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way back there was a small tree that was pushed

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over the cattle trail that he drove down to get

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down there and said that they had to get out

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and move the tree with hooked the winch up to

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the truck and moved the tree so they could get out.

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And he just drove down through there and they heard

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the tree fall. His first cousin is deceased, but he

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his property is just across the road for me, and

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he he was he's was a lifelong farmer and he

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raised soybeans and cotton and corn. And he has a

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section of his property he he raises and breaks horses

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and uh he has a place that he is cutting hay.

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And he used to cut hay up at up till

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eleven or twelve at night. And uh and my bosses

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tell me that he was down there one night and

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uh he heard something scream at him that was loud

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enough that he was driving a tractor, a no cab

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tractor with the uh bush hog on the back, and

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he heard it scream and he cut the the motor

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down and stopped and listened to it for a little

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while and it gave him the creeps, so he cut

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his his UH.

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He he drove his tractor up to his truck that.

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Was in the field, its part in the field, and

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left the tractor there, gotting his truck and left. UH.

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The next day, the tractor in the UH the bush

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hog was flipped upside down, and the bush hog was

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still connected to the tractor. And this was a forward

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tractor UH and had a six foot bush hog on

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the back of it. Where they were they were clearing

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that property out. Said it had been dry that night,

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there wasn't any rain. It was on flat ground. There's

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no reason why that thing should have been upside down.

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But it had been upside down so long, had all

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the all in gas and everything he had leaked out

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onto the ground.

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And he quit.

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He quit doing any bush hog inner or cutting hay

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after dark after that. And Wow, I got another neighbor

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up here that I talked to, and he lives. He

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lives about a quarter mile from me, and he's he's

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a special needs guy. He's he's probably fifty five years old.

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He's lived with his mommy's whole life and everything.

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She died and he.

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Lives by itself. But I was talking with him one day,

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taking him to the store and stuff, and he's seen

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that decal on the back of my truck, and he said,

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you know, people think I'm crazy because I think buggers

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are in the woods, he said, but I hear him

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out here all the time, and you know I don't.

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I said, well, if you want to talk about it,

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tell me about it. He's like, well, really, I don't

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know what to tell you. And he told me about

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another neighbor has some sheep that that something would get

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the sheep, or every now and then when the when

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the she would lamb, they'll might have one or two

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a year that would come up missing. And there's a

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hog farm he knew about down in Hatche Bottom up there,

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about five miles from our house. That it's got a

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hog farm that he said they would come up missing

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and stuff.

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But there's people around here know about it.

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And I've been down here about four or five years,

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and I'm starting to meet enough people and they get

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to know me enough that they open up a little

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bit about it. Men, when I.

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First moved down here with nobody say nothing.

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My landlord say, well, I guess something's out, and I'd

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be like, what do you mean? She said, well, something's

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in the woods. I guess you hear it moving around.

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And I've actually found a place up there behind her

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house where there's a tree twist where if I was

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eight foot tall and I walked up and stood right

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there and looked at her house, I can see right

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inside her storm door, in her back or in the

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back of her house, or watch anything it goes on

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on her back porch. So I tuck her down in

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her shoulder there and she's like, yeah, well, I'm not

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getting out at the door no more.

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It's definitely a stuff that goes on around here.

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Wow, Joe, that's it's even more wild when you hear

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that it's not just your area, but it's also your

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neighbors around your area as well, or having the same

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or similar things go on. My goodness, have you you

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know over the years, I'm sure you've observed a lot,

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You've heard a lot. Do you get the feeling that

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you're dealing with creatures that are more let's say they

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have a positive intent or they have a negative intent towardshumans.

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I think they have a neutral intent. Okay, for example,

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for me, and you a starling or a or a

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jack doll or a blue jay. They're not on their

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or on their food list, you know, our grocery list.

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So if they fly around, we don't pay attention to them.

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You know, if they're doing something odd that we think

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is interesting, we might sit there and watch them for

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a minute, be like, Okay, that's funny, and go on, Well,

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I think these things look at us like that in

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a certain extent where you know, we're we're not necessarily

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on a food chain. But if they say something interesting

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and they're boring, and you're doing something, so you're cutting

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grass or you're outside splitting wood or weed eating or whatever,

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and they're bored, they're like, oh, that's interesting, let's see

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what they do, and then they go back through on business.

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I get a lot of people who.

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Had this accelerated sense of importance that we are to

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these creatures. They think, oh, well they did this, it

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must be because of something I did. Now it's probably

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something that they did and you just happened to be there.

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For example, I had a guy a few years back

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that called me and he was adamant that sasquatch was

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harassing them, trying to get in their house.

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So he was upset.

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He was scared. He was scared, he was passed upset.

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His wife was by ready to leave. She's like, listen,

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I might love you, but when when our marriage vow

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said for better or worse, they didn't say it's going

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to be this bat you know. And so they had

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just moved in their property or down in the central Alabama,

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and they put all their money in it. They didn't

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have the money to mose. They was a young, younger couple. Uh,

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and they had I think two kids and one on

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the way or she just had had.

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The new one at that time. I'm trying to remember.

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Anyway, So he said, just come down here and see

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what we or what we got going on.

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He said, they're trying to get in the house.

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They're trying to tear up the roof and it it's

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driving us crazy. I said, well, okay, I'll come down there.

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So I come.

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I drove down there that next weekend and my boys

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was at their mom's that whole weekend. So I stayed

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down there that weekend and his barn I said, listen,

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here's what I'm gonna do, y'all. Y'all do y'all doing

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a thing. I'm gonna come out here in this barn,

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I said. It's it's September, it's not really cold. You

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got a hayloft up fire. That's me that spy. I'm

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going to leave the door open on the hayloft and

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I'm gonna sit here and listen, and we're gonna see

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what's going on, he said. And I don't know if

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you want to stay in that stoll in that Hayborn said,

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why if they crawl up in there and haul you off.

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I said, well, then you know they got me and

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they didn't get y'all. And y'all okay, And I said,

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but it may sound crazy, but that's that's something I'll do,

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just because I think at what you're what you're comprehending

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and interpreting, it may be a little bit different than

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what's going on. Well. To make a long story short,

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there was a group of four of juvenile or pre

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adult sasquatch. I don't know if they were all male

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or off, or all female or all mixed, but they

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were they were they were adolescents. One one would come

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up to the tree line and it would holler real

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loud to see if he could get a reaction out

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of the house. All right.

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Well, then another one and I watched this.

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Another one would run or would after he hollered, and

465
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.640
they didn't get a reaction. He another one running around

466
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.400
to the backside of the house and screamed closer to

467
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.079
the house, and it was almost like, well, I'm going

468
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.079
to outdo him, so if I can get something stirred

469
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:17.920
up over here. Well, uh after that they went and uh.

470
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.279
The guy called me on the phone.

471
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:19.839
I was in this.

472
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.759
I was in his barn and I had my phone

473
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.640
on vibrate and he called his they're here. I said, yeah,

474
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.359
I know, I'm watching them. I said, you're good the juveniles. Uh.

475
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:38.960
And another uh juvenile went up close and threw a

476
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.119
good sized rock and hit the top of his metal roof.

477
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:46.279
He had a steel corrugated steel roof on the house

478
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:49.559
and hit bang real loud, and there you heard the

479
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.759
rock roll down from the from the barn. They're they're

480
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:57.480
doing index and uh. After that, another one was setting

481
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.480
there and uh. And the guy opened up the door

482
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.839
looking out because I told him it was juveniles. He

483
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.640
was trying to sell. Well, he opened up the door

484
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.119
and looked out and they squatted down at the tree line,

485
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:14.200
and the tree line was about I guess eighty feet

486
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:19.160
sixty feet maybe from his front door, across across the

487
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.559
gravel road. And he was looking and he didn't see it.

488
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.440
He's like, I don't see nowhere. I said, well, they're

489
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:31.039
squatted down in the grass right now. I had binoculars

490
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.079
I was watching them with and I said, listen, you

491
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.319
closed the front door, just leave them all. They'll be okay. Well,

492
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.079
when he closed the front door, another one run up

493
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.240
on the side of the.

494
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:44.079
House and slapped it.

495
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.480
Just I cat right there, and he had listened in

496
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.920
on the house to see if he heard any movement.

497
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.720
When he didn't hear any movement, he moved around a

498
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:58.640
little bit to the left and he slapped the house again.

499
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.039
A society who would be right back after these messages.

500
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.680
And apparently he heard movement because it looked like he

501
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.480
got he got tickled, and he run back to the

502
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.960
woods and you see them all had their heads together.

503
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.480
It's almost like they were whispering. Yeah, here's what happened.

504
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:33.160
This what you know?

505
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.920
It looked like it looked like a bunch of juvenile

506
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.119
high school boys pulling planks and it was it was

507
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.559
would have been comical if it wasn't if it was humans.

508
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.400
In other words, but for these things, what they do

509
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.359
and what they uh, you know, the reason why they

510
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.440
do it, it's not the same as why we do.

511
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.160
You know, they could very well be saying, well, we

512
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.240
if we do something else, we might get one of

513
00:31:58.240 --> 00:31:59.799
them out here to statue up and leave. I don't

514
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.480
know they're thinking, but I just know what I watched.

515
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:09.559
So when that, when that didn't get nobody out, another

516
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.480
one run down and jumped up on the porch and

517
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.440
uh and slapped the porch with both of his hands.

518
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:19.839
Went jumped on the porch and made a pop and

519
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.960
over his feet when he landed, and then he bent

520
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.319
over just like a grill and slapped up, slapped the

521
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.759
floorboards and uh. I was talking to the guy and

522
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.440
you could hear the windows rattle, and I was like,

523
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.799
listen this, uh these I know this.

524
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:38.400
Is scary for you.

525
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.839
You think this is the same buoger doing this, But

526
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.880
this is a group of younger boogers.

527
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.920
That ain't got nothing to do but get in trouble.

528
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:50.480
I said, so we can, we can deal with this,

529
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:56.680
and uh so uh the last one. When that didn't

530
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.240
get any response, went around and shut the door. He

531
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:05.039
grabbed the door hand the doorknob and shook it. Uh.

532
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.599
And then he went around to the back door and

533
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.559
did the same thing. Well, that guy like to come

534
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.880
and glued. Then he's like, I'm gonna get my gun.

535
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.000
I'm gonna start shooting, and all listen, we're gonna fix this.

536
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:17.119
I'm watching this.

537
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:25.240
They don't. They're they're mischievous, they're they're being aggravating, but

538
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:26.680
they're not being hostile.

539
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.480
We don't need the gun. Uh, we take care of this.

540
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.839
And so uh when they all went around, they all

541
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.079
they stopped and watched and nothing. He didn't come outside,

542
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.839
so they sat still. And then when they realized that

543
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.000
they couldn't get nothing, stirred up at the house. They

544
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.839
all come down towards the barn because there was live

545
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:53.880
stock in the barn.

546
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:54.720
Uh.

547
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:57.400
He had some goats down there and some chickens, and

548
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.440
they was in the in the barn. Well, when they

549
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.119
come down there, Oh, they come walking down the tree

550
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.440
line and they got past to where I couldn't see

551
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.880
out the hayloft, but I could hear them. And they

552
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.280
come around to the back and there wasn't an opening

553
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.880
in the hay loft up there.

554
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.800
I couldn't look out back there, and.

555
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.280
There's there was a breezeway where you pull a tractor

556
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.079
or into the barn and you go out the back,

557
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.639
and that was open. And they come in there and

558
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:32.400
started moving around and looking at stuff, and I racked

559
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.880
a I racked a shell into my shotgun. I said,

560
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.360
all right, if y'all don't get out of here, I'm

561
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.880
gonna tell y'all's daddy on y'all.

562
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:41.960
And I hollered as loud as I could, and you

563
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:42.679
would have.

564
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.840
Thought that they had tore down the side of that

565
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.679
though barn trying to get out of there.

566
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:50.880
They didn't know I was there, and it scared.

567
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:55.239
Them, and it was almost like teenage kids that got caught.

568
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.559
And it was like, well, I'm gonna tell your daddy. Okay, Well,

569
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.039
daddy don't know we're here. Better get gone, you know.

570
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.880
And so they didn't come back the rest of that night.

571
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.119
They didn't come back that next night, they didn't come

572
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:13.960
back Monday night. Whenever he called me and let me know,

573
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.800
I said, well, they'll be back, but this here is

574
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:18.760
how you deal with that.

575
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.280
And so.

576
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.840
Whenever they come back at next Tuesday night, they were

577
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.800
just hooping and hollering in the woods, and he'd call

578
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.800
me on the phone. He's like, well, they're out here

579
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.840
hooping again. I said, well, they're just they're just feeling

580
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.880
their oats. I guess just go out there and tell

581
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.000
them to shut up. You're trying to sleep aller at them,

582
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.519
I said, they see you as the alpha mail. They're

583
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.840
trying to see how far they can push you until

584
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:52.960
you react to a way that they're not alpha animals,

585
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.239
or else they would have come in the door whenever.

586
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.599
Whenever you go out there and they run off, they're

587
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.880
not shaking that door, uh to get in the house,

588
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.239
to shaking that door to get a rise out of you.

589
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:10.480
And so over the process of the next couple of months,

590
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.159
they didn't go away easy. But he would go out

591
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.039
there whenever they or they would start their stuff, and

592
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.480
he would holler at them and say, listen, y'all be quiet,

593
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.639
I got kids in here. You sceering the kids, you know,

594
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.320
And after a while they got to work. You know, Okay,

595
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.280
we know what he's gonna do. It's gonna be one

596
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.400
time and he's not coming out no more and then

597
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.199
they they kind of left him alone. They still mess

598
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.880
with stuff, take stuff out of the yard, but they

599
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:47.559
would always return it. And it's just like with people.

600
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:51.239
If you and I are together and I've got a

601
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.800
nice hunting rifle and i set it up next to

602
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.960
a tree, and I go around and used to buy

603
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.880
room in the bushes, you know that I set that

604
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.719
gun down and I'm coming back to get it. That's

605
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.480
my gun. It's as far as me and use concerned,

606
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.000
that's my gun. Well with them, if I set that

607
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.599
gun down and I walk off and I go use

608
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.920
the bathroom, I'm through with that gun. It's whoever's can

609
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:20.800
whoever can get its gun at that point. And in

610
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:25.559
that way, I don't think they understand the uh the

611
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:32.079
civilized version of owning property. It's so it's whoever's so

612
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.519
I ain't or whoever's got it. When they're through with it,

613
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.440
they set it down and walk it off and leave it,

614
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.400
and whoever comes along and needs it or wants that

615
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:44.880
they pick it up and take it out. And that

616
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:49.800
that in itself causes a lot of conflict in UH

617
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:55.519
in uh messing with these animals as far as dealing

618
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.599
with them on a daily basis.

619
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.480
That's that is incredib And it sounds like you were

620
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.320
able to really have some time looking at these creatures

621
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.440
as they were running around, messing with the house, all

622
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:13.559
that good stuff. Are you able to kind of describe

623
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.119
what what they actually looked like? What what you saw?

624
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.719
Was it similar to you know what everyone says, or

625
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.920
did you notice some things that may have been different

626
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:23.639
than the normal?

627
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:25.639
Oh?

628
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:27.679
Well, in different parts of the country, they.

629
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.719
Look a little bit different. They don't look like Paddy

630
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.880
down here in the South. Uh you see that at

631
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.199
Patterson gam whin Uh take where Patty's walking across that

632
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.079
creek bed and turns around and looks at you. That

633
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.360
may be what they look like in the Pacific Northwest,

634
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.159
and I've seen I've seen some looked similar to that

635
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.199
in Texas. But down here they look more like a

636
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:59.840
mix between a down syndrome chimpanzee and uh, I guess

637
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:04.400
the bonnabowl mixed. And they're they're pretty aggressive if you

638
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:09.199
don't know how to handle them, but they're not always

639
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.360
They're not just so aggressive.

640
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.760
That they're all territorial. Because you're there, they're gonna run

641
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:14.079
you out.

642
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.159
Some some of them will do that, but that's usually

643
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.880
the ones that's been shot at and things. But if

644
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.639
you if you want a good mental little picture of

645
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:32.519
what one looks like, you take take a chimpanzee and

646
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.400
stretch stretches a body of proportions out to about six

647
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.079
and a half seven foot tall for juvenile all a

648
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:44.000
foot and a half or two foot taller or down

649
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.320
here for a male or adult male. And there is

650
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.000
a sexual dimorphism in them, and that the females are

651
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:56.079
shorter than the males. An adult female don't get much

652
00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:02.159
bigger than a than a early young adult male. And

653
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:08.440
the forehead, the brow is really pronounced. It comes out

654
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:17.000
from a slope forehead, and the eyebrows are almost almost

655
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.039
protruding enough that you think who had order to make

656
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:24.000
a natural shade for you know. And that's why a

657
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.280
lot of people think they see them with black eyes.

658
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.559
It's because their eyes are in set so far that

659
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:33.559
there's a permanent shadow on there. The nose is flatter

660
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:38.760
than the humans. It's a hooded nose, but it is wide,

661
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:45.679
it is got the nostrils pointed down, some of them

662
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.639
are pointed out, And I think that may just be

663
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:53.039
a individual variance in the same species, but most of

664
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.239
them down. Here's the noses, a hood that that's pointed down.

665
00:40:56.440 --> 00:41:01.800
There's a longer upper lip than humans have, and then

666
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.079
the mouth is wide there. It's almost like it's almost

667
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.960
like you CEOs cartoon clowns when they smile and their

668
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.159
mouth stretches real wide to their ears. Their mouth is

669
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.280
like that. Their teeth is like humans, but they're like this.

670
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:25.760
They're they're huge. The insizers are probably I don't know

671
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:33.360
the size of well a squire chewing gum. I mean,

672
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:38.360
it's it's that wide. And I don't ever notice they

673
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:43.119
have canines, but I don't see like any massive canines

674
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.400
like you would see on a baboon or nothing out

675
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.159
of these here. They're pretty much like human teeth, but

676
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:54.760
on a bigger scale. Their jaws are all wide and.

677
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.360
Uh and thick.

678
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.079
You can tell there's a lot of muscles and uh

679
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.639
and bone ass and the jaw. They must have a

680
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.760
really strong bite, of course. Uh. They got a neck,

681
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.039
but their trap muscles are so big that it's like

682
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.719
it's like their neck is uh is hid behind their

683
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:16.719
trap muscles on their back. They're not all that people say.

684
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:19.519
There's an hour glass shape to them. I'm pretty sure

685
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.079
some of them have. But all these down here have

686
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.039
like a gorilla type body.

687
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:25.480
Uh uh.

688
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:31.360
You don't have these massive uh arms and then a

689
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.159
little bitty legs or nothing like that.

690
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.639
But their arms are longer than their legs.

691
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.719
I think, I think that when they're young, and I've

692
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.480
got places I've seen that support this, that they live

693
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.880
in the trees more than on ground. I don't think

694
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:51.960
they come down on the ground a lot until they're

695
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.840
at least five six feet tall. And uh, I've got

696
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.800
a friend of mine that has a uh uh, what

697
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.239
I call a sasquatch nursery in his yard or in

698
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:06.599
his hunting area back there behind his yard, and there's.

699
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.320
A tree that is.

700
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:15.159
I guess eighty or eighty five feet tall. It's a

701
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.880
giant pine tree. On the side away from the roads,

702
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:25.119
you can see where something over generations animals have slid

703
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:27.679
down the side of that tree, and that bark is

704
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:28.760
completely slick.

705
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.239
On the other side facing.

706
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.800
The road, the bark looks normal, but you can tell

707
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.880
it looks like something slid down the side of that tree.

708
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.280
And there are trees that are pushed over for the

709
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.280
younger ones to learn to crawl and to climb on.

710
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:50.440
And I've always hypothesized that the reason when you see

711
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.280
a sasquatch walk and he's walking in the straight line

712
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.000
as opposed to waddling like humans, is it's because he

713
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.840
learned to walk on the tree limbs and they had

714
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.039
to balance like that. Well, after they get big enough,

715
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.000
they get on the ground and I can't knit and

716
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.519
hurt them, they still walk like that because that's how

717
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:19.480
they learned, and that's that would make sense. That makes

718
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.000
sense to me because I've seen littlands up in the

719
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.639
tree and the only time that I've seen them come

720
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.039
down is when the mom has been there and said,

721
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:27.400
come on.

722
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:29.719
Sure, that makes sense.

723
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.599
The similarities. How you talked about the similarities between them

724
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:40.519
and the chimpanzees, but it stretched out is really it's

725
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.199
such an interesting mental picture and not really the most

726
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:48.119
comforting one, to be honest. But do you think you know,

727
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:53.760
if you look into chimpanzees, their behavior sometimes can be

728
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.119
just quite vicious and they will just tear things apart.

729
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:00.519
Do you have their been time?

730
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.920
I'm sure you've been around a lot of times where

731
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.800
there's been sasquatch that have been hostile environments as well.

732
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.119
Have you seen those kind of same behaviors.

733
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.480
I've seen I've seen where they do that, and I

734
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:19.840
think what you're getting at is they act uncivilized, absolutely,

735
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:25.039
and and that's why that's why you know, these people

736
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.639
run around and say, oh, these are these are forced

737
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.440
people that are channel and they love nature and they

738
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.760
they want to be your friends. They're gonna protect you,

739
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.280
blah blah blah. Uh No, they're not you. You only

740
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.480
hear stories from the people who who were helped out

741
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.320
of the woods. You don't hear stories about the people

742
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.840
who who are walked up on one that was having

743
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.880
a bad day, got pissed off, ripped them up, meet

744
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:56.280
them and left. You know, it's just like just like

745
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.280
with dolphins. People people for century said, well, dolphins will

746
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.000
help sailor get back to the shore.

747
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.480
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

748
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.760
Well, you don't know about the dolphins that that tucked

749
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:28.880
the sailor and pushed him out further than sea, because

750
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:32.320
there's no nobody there left to tell that story. And

751
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:34.960
these are kind of like the same way. You know,

752
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:41.880
if they were a type man, they would be more

753
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:45.280
terrifying than if they were just another primate. And the

754
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.320
reason why I say that men don't don't have an

755
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:57.880
idea of forgiveness. They don't have an idea of of

756
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:02.880
oh you know, I I'll accept you. Like this. Humans,

757
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.119
if they don't know what something is as a species,

758
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:06.960
we kill it because we ain't gonna deal with it.

759
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.320
We ain't gonna learn about it, you know. But if

760
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.559
they were another type man, they would have that same

761
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:19.360
type thinking too. And the fact that they live off

762
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:24.280
of natural law, just like the gorillas and stuff that

763
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:25.320
I watch on TV.

764
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.039
Do that tells me that they're a primate?

765
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.840
People say, well, no, always, it can't be just a primate. Well,

766
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:37.920
humans are just primates. I mean, on a scientific level,

767
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.559
we are a primates. But if you take a sasquatch,

768
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.280
and if you take a gorilla, and you take an orangutan,

769
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.760
and you take a bonnabo, and you take a billy ape,

770
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.199
and you take a man and you set them in

771
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:57.719
a circle, all of those animals live on lands, all right.

772
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:58.880
One of those.

773
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.679
Animals don't fit because one of those animals isn't adapted

774
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.920
to living on land. That animal doesn't have the strength

775
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.679
to live without or without having to manipulate its environment,

776
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.599
so it can and don't have the ability to eat

777
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.679
raw food or just getting it and eating it without

778
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.679
having the process it. So it's a body can digest it,

779
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.639
and it doesn't have the ability to stay out in

780
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:31.639
the weather without having to manipulate textiles and stuff to survive.

781
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.719
And that that person is man. Okay, we don't belong.

782
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.679
And people say, well, the government don't want to talk

783
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:48.320
about bigfoot and sasquatch and all these things because and

784
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.320
they'll fill in any any reason that is that is

785
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:56.199
convenient for them. My thinking on that is the reason

786
00:48:56.239 --> 00:49:01.039
why they don't talk about it is they've got if

787
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.719
they look at evolution, oh and they start with the

788
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:09.400
recess monkey and go up that chain where modern man

789
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.400
is on that rise of man charge. I think you

790
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.159
take that rise of man charge to take the modern

791
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:16.039
human output a.

792
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.440
Sasquatch where he is, that would be the most.

793
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.679
Evolved terrestrial primate on Earth.

794
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:24.639
Okay.

795
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.000
If and the reason why I say that, when you

796
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:32.679
look at the at the evolution of that of the species,

797
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.480
it starts out small and gets bigger. Well when you

798
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:44.159
get the Neanderthals and then uh uh they're our size now,

799
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:50.480
and then that that uh other one uh trying to

800
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.840
think anyway, he was six and a half foot tall.

801
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:55.800
H we we didn't evolve from a six and a

802
00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:00.320
half foot tall uh archaic man down to a I've

803
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.679
been a half to six foot tall modern man. That

804
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:08.199
didn't work. So the natural rise of that would mean

805
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.800
it would be seven and a half day foot tall primates,

806
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:16.079
which would be sasquatch. Okay, well if you, if you,

807
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.199
if you can sit down and look at that with

808
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:23.159
a with a clear mind and the open mind and say, well, okay,

809
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.079
well where does humans come into this?

810
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.480
All right? Every every culture we've we've.

811
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:33.840
Got associated with a modern man says we were created.

812
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:35.599
It didn't say we above.

813
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.360
Every one of them said God created us in one

814
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.800
way or another. So uh, maybe that was my Oh

815
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:48.440
maybe that was the early modern man that didn't understand

816
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:54.000
science's way of saying, okay, we're not we're not from here, all.

817
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.159
Right, Well then where are we from? That's a whole

818
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:57.519
new can of worms.

819
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.960
You know, if if they just come out and said, okay,

820
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.519
well we were a genetically engineered animal that they are.

821
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:09.320
People say that.

822
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:15.840
Sasquatch has our DNA. What if we've got sasquatches DNA?

823
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.239
You know it's human. It's human arrogance that says that

824
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.599
we are the top person and they've got to have

825
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.280
our DNA. Well, what if what they call God come

826
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:34.039
and see the the possibilities of what sasquatch in these

827
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.920
terrestrial apes could be. They added DNA to it and

828
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:43.000
they made they made a modern man and maybe you know,

829
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.519
and there's all kinds and there's all kind of crazy,

830
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:50.599
crazy theories about the Samerians and Aninochies and stuff. I

831
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.599
don't know if I'll go along with all that, but

832
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.840
it's something to think about. Maybe the reason why they

833
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.800
don't want to acknowledge that is they've got to do

834
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:06.239
They've got to say where humans come from and that

835
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.480
because a human we are really developed to be a

836
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:10.440
semi aquatic.

837
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:11.480
Uh.

838
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.199
If you look at at all those other apes I

839
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.519
talked about, Uh, they've got a lot of hair on

840
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.079
their body. Okay, they can't swim good because they have

841
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:24.360
all kinds of drag off of that hair. You know,

842
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.519
gorillas and apes and stuff. They don't have fat deposits

843
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.760
like we do to help them float. This think to

844
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.159
the bottom of dram Uh, we've got less hair follicles

845
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.119
per square inch than even a dolphin or well hats,

846
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.320
you know, and they're aquatic mammals. All right, We've got

847
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:48.639
we've got a webbed finger, fingers and toes. Apes don't

848
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:53.320
have that. We've got we've got the dive in syndrome,

849
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.960
just like a well, where if if you swim and

850
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.960
you dive down so far, your your throat locks up

851
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.519
and you don't you don't need to breathe until your

852
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:04.760
body runs out of oxygen.

853
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:06.840
Then you've got to come up, you know.

854
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.440
And that's not even talking about the size of strength ratio.

855
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.400
The human body is not as strong as any other

856
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.199
terrestrial apes body because it's designed to be held up

857
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:25.280
with some medium like water or something like that. And

858
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.119
that's the reason why we float. That's the reason why

859
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.760
we've got a hooded nose to keep water out of

860
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.280
our nose so we don't inhale it.

861
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.119
You know. There's a lot of stuff there that and.

862
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.559
I'm going out on a tangent, i know, but there's

863
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.400
a there's a lot of stuff there that.

864
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:45.960
I look at and I think about.

865
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.559
And if if everybody just said okay, they're real, and

866
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.760
they said, all right, where's people come from?

867
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:01.079
That would that would kill civilization. And I say all

868
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.559
that to say that they do.

869
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.000
They do do things like that. You know, they hit

870
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.119
an animal, they catch it, they ripped its legs off

871
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:16.800
and eat it before it's dead. They I sat down

872
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:21.639
there on nightious Trace and watched eleven sasquatch for one

873
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.800
night or kill three deer, and it was like something

874
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.679
out of out of Nature or documentary or something.

875
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:33.960
I thought, Wow, there's no way. But you know, there's

876
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.039
stuff like that that.

877
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.719
I don't know why it's not filmed in America, because

878
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:42.880
it's happening there.

879
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:44.360
I mean, I wasn't looking for it.

880
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.199
I just happened to be down there in a place

881
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.480
where it's quiet, and there was a there was a

882
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.880
campground that nobody goes to on the Trace, and I

883
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.079
pulled down there just to see if I could hear anything.

884
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.000
And that was something that just happened.

885
00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:01.920
That night, And because I was interested in it, I

886
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:03.880
wasn't afraid. It wasn't n til I got back home.

887
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:05.440
I thought, well, it's a good thing that was dear

888
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.760
didn't show up. Well, I was the only other thing there.

889
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.599
Now, I'm not the most familiar with the geography in

890
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.199
that area, so that is in Mississippi as well.

891
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:22.960
Yes, right, there's a there's a Natchez Trace runs from Natchez,

892
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:28.679
Mississippi north to Nashville, Tennessee.

893
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:30.559
At one time that was the.

894
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.760
Only trade route, and at one time there was a

895
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:38.039
northern route and a southern route that were divided though.

896
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:42.920
But yeah, Natchez Trace that is a national park now

897
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.679
that you can drive down and you can stop and

898
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:50.159
they've got different markers and stuff that tell us places

899
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.880
where things in history happened, and you can go and

900
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:56.800
eat there, you can walk around. It's got horse trails,

901
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:58.559
nature trails and stuff like that.

902
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.400
And I was at a king camp ground or that.

903
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:04.440
As far as I know, I'm the only one that's

904
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.719
been down there in the last five years. And I've

905
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.800
taken my boys down there and let them let them

906
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.280
when they were younger listen to to sasquatch holler in

907
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:15.360
the back of the truck.

908
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:18.960
And that was just one of my old places I

909
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:21.000
went and listened.

910
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:28.000
And the ones that you saw tear that that deer apart.

911
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:33.199
Do you think they're probably more adults than or juveniles?

912
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.519
Yeah, I think they were adults. They caught it here.

913
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.320
Here's what happened. I was parked facing the trace and

914
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:44.079
there was this I guess about a six acre clearing

915
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.840
there was there was trees lined up the tracing and

916
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.239
there was that clearing and then the road that goes

917
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:54.320
to the campground come to the backside that clearing and.

918
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:55.360
Then you go to campground.

919
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.760
Last parked over there with my truck towards the road,

920
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.559
and I haven't in this down it was. It was

921
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.480
in December and it was kind of cool, but I

922
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:10.519
was listening and there wasn't any sounds any worse or

923
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:13.639
you could get in hear nothing. And I was there

924
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:17.800
about thirty minutes and I heard something coming through the

925
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:21.480
woods and I looked. I looked over in time to

926
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:25.000
see three doors run out of the trees to the south,

927
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.360
and one was going so fast looking back it actually run.

928
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.400
Into the back or bumping my truck.

929
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.920
And the other two went around and they went to

930
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.719
went in that opening. Well, when they went out in

931
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:41.000
the opening, they turned to go to the west towards

932
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:45.960
Natchees or the east going towards Snatch's trace, and two

933
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:50.360
or sasquatch come out come out in the open there

934
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.800
in the tree lined out about four or five yards

935
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.559
enough for them to stand down the they were obvious

936
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.119
to the deer. Well, the deer stopped there and they

937
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:03.239
cut down to the west, going towards the river, and

938
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.320
there was three that come out of the campground over there.

939
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:07.920
Uh.

940
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.559
Well, when when they saw them, they cut to the

941
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:16.480
north and at the very end of the of the

942
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.639
tree line up there at the end, there was.

943
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:20.440
Two that come out there.

944
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.599
And uh when they come out, the deers just basically

945
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.920
started circling around. And I heard something coming in the

946
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.639
woods and there was four of them come through the

947
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:34.920
woods that like they'd been the ones that were pushing

948
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.840
the deer, and they come around. They didn't even act

949
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:41.480
like my truck was there. They didn't They couldn't tear

950
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:44.000
the less if as I are not. And they come

951
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:49.079
out through there and they started they started jumping at

952
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:54.679
those deers and growling and hollering, and the deers they

953
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.840
get scared. And they had run one way, and they'd

954
00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:00.400
let them run enough that while they were running one way,

955
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:05.400
the ones behind them were walking up, closing in the gap,

956
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.039
and the other ones ahead would holler at them, and

957
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.719
they had turned ninety degrees and run another way, and

958
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:13.039
then they would come up and they were.

959
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.360
Just they were just closing it in on them.

960
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.760
Well, when they got to a word that they couldn't

961
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:24.920
get get away, And it wasn't a small space that

962
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.880
that happened. You would think they would huddle them in

963
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.159
till they can all touch each other, but that wasn't

964
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.920
how they worked. They got they were probably fifteen twenty

965
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:38.320
yards from each other, but they were around these deers.

966
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.280
And then this one come out of the tree and

967
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:44.199
bust it through the line just like it was a

968
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:50.320
hog dog hitting a hog on the when it was

969
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.679
made up by dogs, and it hit it hit the

970
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.280
deer on the right side and knocked it down just

971
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.639
like it tackled it and reached over and grabbed his

972
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.719
head and popped down, and it was it was a gory.

973
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.079
Sound of bones popping.

974
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.000
You could hear a couple of bleats out of the deer,

975
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.239
but that didn't last long. And you heard deer popping,

976
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:18.599
you heard skin ripping, and you heard them growling. It

977
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:23.079
sounds it sounded like that gum rane sating there eating.

978
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.880
I mean there was growling. There wasn't any fighting over

979
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:29.039
the food. The big one when he when.

980
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.199
He killed his he ripped off a back leg.

981
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.760
And he handed it to a smaller one. And by smaller,

982
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:40.960
I say six and a half feet tall. Probably he

983
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.400
might not being quite that big, but or I don't

984
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.239
even know if it's a mail or not. But he

985
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.880
killed his and he tore his up and handed his out,

986
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.119
and then the others that had killed those other deer

987
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.280
took their piece and shared that.

988
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:57.119
Deer around and.

989
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:02.119
They eat off of three deer and it was completely

990
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.679
gone with them, probably from start to finish, probably forty

991
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:11.239
five minutes from the time they ringed them up coming

992
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:14.679
out of the woods until they tore them apart and

993
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.599
sit there and eat them.

994
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.679
Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

995
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:36.480
And then they just.

996
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.440
Walked off like kids every day on Sunday meeting and

997
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.960
they they just went by business.

998
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.559
You know, It's like I wasn't even there.

999
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:55.559
That is absolutely incredible. So you're saying that the whole time,

1000
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.400
it was about forty five minutes and you were there

1001
01:01:58.519 --> 01:01:59.920
present for like the whole thing.

1002
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:02.679
Yes, I sat in my truck.

1003
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:05.079
Are in no way I was getting them right.

1004
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.360
I had my windows down and I was hoping that

1005
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:10.679
they wouldn't notice my windows down with us. When that

1006
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.840
when them four come out of the woods, though. Three

1007
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.599
of them went in front of my truck and one

1008
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:18.159
went behind me, And it was just like they were

1009
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:19.079
going around rock.

1010
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:19.480
It was.

1011
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.239
They didn't look in my windshield. They were focused on

1012
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:27.440
those deers they were. They didn't care that I was there.

1013
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:29.000
I wasn't making any.

1014
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.000
Noise, I wasn't moving around, I wasn't disturbing their hunts,

1015
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:34.400
and they didn't.

1016
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:36.159
Care that I was there. That's the thing.

1017
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.400
I was insignificant in their world at that time. And

1018
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:42.880
when they ate, they didn't look over to see if

1019
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:44.880
Joe was still watching them.

1020
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.320
They care less.

1021
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:52.159
Oh, they moved right on, right on their business wherever

1022
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:56.079
they went. They headed out north, and that's the last

1023
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.280
time I saw them that night.

1024
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:02.880
That is that's that's wild, Joe. Did the adult ones

1025
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:06.559
look like chimps as well, or did they look a

1026
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:10.519
little different than how the juveniles will look.

1027
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:17.960
The adults looked like chimps, Yes, but they looked more

1028
01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.519
thick as far as you know. The difference in seeing

1029
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:27.000
a gangly teenager and an adult male human. All right, Oh,

1030
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:30.800
that that is a good comparison to you could tell

1031
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:33.360
they were the same animal, They were the same sex,

1032
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:38.519
but the maturity was there. Uh, they didn't look like bodybuilders,

1033
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:41.440
so they looked like big of course. So it's sort

1034
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:45.800
of like the uh Caesar on the Planet of the

1035
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.480
Apes when he stood up and you could tell you know.

1036
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:52.079
He was a he was a adult male.

1037
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.039
I kind of wondered after watching The Planet of the

1038
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:59.280
Apes if somebody didn't know how Sasquatch act when they

1039
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.039
did that movie, because there was a lot of similarities

1040
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:08.119
in how they acted with what I've seen in my experiences.

1041
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.039
Now I'm looking at a map, and I believe I'm

1042
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.639
looking at the right Natchez Trace State Park and Forest

1043
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:20.159
in Mississippi. You go north, it almost if you were

1044
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:23.400
to go north, you'd almost get into Kentucky Lake, which

1045
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:27.239
would also get into land between the Lakes, which is right.

1046
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.920
Do you think there could be a connection, Oh, what's sure?

1047
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:35.760
I think there's always that possibility here. When you look

1048
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:42.320
at Natchez Trace, you come through Carbert County, Alabama, and

1049
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:46.880
you hit into Tishmingo County, Mississippi. Right there on that

1050
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:52.760
border on that state line is is Bear Creek Campground.

1051
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:55.920
That's where I'm talking about. That was but all up

1052
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:57.039
and down Natches Trace.

1053
01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.880
When I when I first moved back up here after

1054
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:04.239
Hurricane Rita, and I started going looking for me places

1055
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:06.440
to see if they were up here too. It was

1056
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.480
like it was like I was in a school for

1057
01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:13.960
for hunting sasquatch. Just like man, they've got to be everywhere.

1058
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.639
I've got to be crazy, but I've got to figure

1059
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.800
out which one it is, because there was there's signs

1060
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.559
all over the place, especially after the trees fall and

1061
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:26.440
you get to looking through the woods and you can

1062
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.360
you can see like tree structures and stuff that's there,

1063
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:31.320
and those are boundary markers.

1064
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:34.800
I was. I was over there.

1065
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.880
Down the road a little bit from from Bear Creek

1066
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:45.199
Campgrounds there right across the state line in Mississippi. There's

1067
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.840
an Indian man right there, and you can stand on

1068
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:50.920
top of that Indian man and look up down Bear

1069
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.199
Creek in the winter town when there ain't no trees

1070
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.159
and look around. I was sitting over there. There's a

1071
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.000
nursery down there too, by the way. I wouldn't suggest

1072
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:04.360
going around there, oh if you're just curious, because you

1073
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:07.800
get they get aggressive dinner. But I was watching for

1074
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:13.039
some sasquatch to come out of the east on the

1075
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:16.519
east over about ten miles from that place is Freedom

1076
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:23.519
Hills Wildlife Management Area in Carbrick County, and they're pretty

1077
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:26.800
aggressive over in there. Anyway, I was watching for some

1078
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:30.760
maybe to come out there, and I heard something behind me,

1079
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:33.920
and there was one crawling up along the tree line

1080
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.480
coming around, and he got pissed off because I called

1081
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.679
him watching me because I heard him. And I walked

1082
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:43.800
over to the other side, and he was a good

1083
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:48.960
nine foot tall. I guess, oh, thick, thick fellow. You

1084
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.599
couldn't His head was so big you couldn't put a

1085
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:54.000
five gallon bucket down on it, if that makes sense.

1086
01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:59.360
And he sat there and watched me and and I

1087
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:01.519
think a lot of times they watched to see if,

1088
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:05.920
if how you act to determine how they react.

1089
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:07.760
I never act like I'm scared.

1090
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:13.239
My My personality is if I'm curious or should be afraid,

1091
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:17.119
I'm going to be seeing what I can see because

1092
01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:22.679
my curiosity beats beats out my fear. And I admit

1093
01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:26.559
that I take chances that I would. I wouldn't suggest

1094
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:30.320
anybody else to just because I know what I can

1095
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.440
deal with and and don't don't say, well, Joe sat

1096
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:34.280
here and did this.

1097
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:36.480
So I'm going to do that. You know, Joe sat

1098
01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:36.960
there and.

1099
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.800
Did that because he had the experience to know when

1100
01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:42.519
it's time to get out there. There have been times

1101
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.199
when I sing one and I'm like, oh, I'm gone,

1102
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.559
and I talked to them and and walk on EI there.

1103
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:53.519
But you know that that's you got to know what

1104
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:53.800
you do.

1105
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:55.360
And there's no there's.

1106
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:57.519
No checklist you go down and say, well, if it

1107
01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.559
does this, I can do this and be okay, or

1108
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:00.599
I better not do that.

1109
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:06.159
So you're dealing with something wild for sure, Joe. I

1110
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.000
know last time we talked, I believe you'd said that

1111
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:11.800
you haven't been over You go all over the place,

1112
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:13.840
but you hadn't gone over to Oklahoma yet. It is

1113
01:08:14.199 --> 01:08:15.440
that still the case.

1114
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:18.479
Where you know you have yet to make it over there.

1115
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.760
Over to where Oklahoma.

1116
01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:25.960
Uh No, I haven't got to go to Oklahoma yet.

1117
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:29.640
But I went to a Missouri last weekend to uh

1118
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.760
to a Mark Twain National Law Forest over there.

1119
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:34.560
Oh yeah, I went over in.

1120
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:38.560
I went overn looked at some things, uh and I

1121
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:42.039
didn't I didn't see too much sasquatch stuff. I actually

1122
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.039
put up a camp around a tree structure that I'm not.

1123
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:50.279
I'm not absolutely sure that a sasquatch made it, as

1124
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:54.560
opposed to maybe a hunter made a blind But uh,

1125
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:57.039
sasquatch ain't the only thing in the woods you got

1126
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.479
to worry about. Oh, like we I left over there

1127
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:03.439
because somebody is shooting through my camp. Call three or

1128
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:06.840
four times and I hollered and they didn't send the

1129
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:07.960
tear piles over or not.

1130
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:10.119
So I packed up and left.

1131
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.880
But you know, I'd rather run into a sasquatch in

1132
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.319
the woods as another human because of sasquatch bongs there.

1133
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:20.319
If you in the woods at eleven twelve o'clock at

1134
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:23.199
night and you come across another human or a group

1135
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.920
of humans, oh you don't know why they're there?

1136
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:29.800
Oh absolutely, I agree.

1137
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:35.000
You know, finding a human in the woods is can

1138
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:39.079
be a lot scarier than a sasquatch. So Mark Twain

1139
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.319
from where you're well, let's say Mark Twain from Mississippi.

1140
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.319
That's quite a hall is that.

1141
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:50.279
It was four hours? It was four hours from here?

1142
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:51.880
Oh one way.

1143
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:56.520
Yeah. Oh, there's a little town called Donathan, Missouri up there.

1144
01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.960
My son's got a girlfriend up there and he won't

1145
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.680
go see her for a birthday. And I like, well,

1146
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:04.840
while you do that, I'm gonna go up here and

1147
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:07.479
look around. And I happened to get up there on

1148
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:13.479
the first day of Antler List deer gun season. So

1149
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.920
I got up there, and I checked in at the

1150
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:19.640
National Forest or the game ward and let him know

1151
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:24.880
what's gonna be and uh everything, And he told me

1152
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:27.359
what nobody else gonna be around there unless there was

1153
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:33.359
some day hunters and they stay away from the designated campgrounds.

1154
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.920
So uh, I set up a primitive camp. I went.

1155
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:40.560
I went down to the end of the road. Down

1156
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.640
there where I was, there was a turnaround. I put

1157
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:46.239
my I put my camp in the middle of that turnaround.

1158
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:47.680
It wasn't it wasn't.

1159
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.279
An established camp. Uh, but the game boarding told me

1160
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:53.039
if I found a place I liked on the side

1161
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.319
of the road, since uh, where I was going was

1162
01:10:56.399 --> 01:11:00.680
in a area that hunters generally don't go in. He said, listen,

1163
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:04.039
this is the first day of deer season. If you're

1164
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.399
just camping, I normally I tell you to be careful,

1165
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:08.520
he said, But people don't go in that part of

1166
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:13.079
the of the forest. He said, you you probably won't

1167
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.399
see maybe one or two people, and they'll be locals

1168
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.279
just looking around for deer spots maybe. So I went

1169
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.479
over and I set up, and you know that those

1170
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:26.800
woods were quiet the whole time when I got there.

1171
01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:29.000
Tell you a little bit of what I do. I

1172
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:32.439
set up my camp and I got or I got

1173
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.960
out there, and I walked out in the out in

1174
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:40.239
the woods past my camp towards the river down there

1175
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:43.239
where it was a little bit, and I just said, listen,

1176
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:47.720
I've had a rough week this week. I'm tired. I

1177
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:51.039
come out here because y'all got a beautiful place that's quiet,

1178
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:55.640
and I'm out here to uh to settle down and

1179
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.479
just enjoy y'all's y'all's house.

1180
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:01.760
If y'all don't want me here, just.

1181
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:03.960
Let me know and I'll leave. I mean, I'm fine

1182
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.399
with that, but I'm just down here. I'm not I

1183
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.359
don't care about deer hunting. I'm not out here making mess.

1184
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:14.119
And I even when I got through talking, I went around.

1185
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.279
I picked up garbage and burnett while I was there

1186
01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:17.520
to kind of clean it up.

1187
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:18.920
And I didn't have.

1188
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:23.840
Any problems at that. I heard some walking around the

1189
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:30.119
camp area inside or inside the tree line now where

1190
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.760
I was. You come in from the west, but it

1191
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:36.479
was on top of a hill that had about a

1192
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.800
sixty degree incline from the bottom to the top, and

1193
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:45.000
whatever walked around was walking uphill, but it would go

1194
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:46.840
to the road and it turned around and to.

1195
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:49.079
Walk all the way back around to the other side

1196
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:49.520
of the road.

1197
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:51.960
And it did that two or three times looking around,

1198
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:55.920
and I heard it about ten thirty at night, and

1199
01:12:56.399 --> 01:13:03.920
there's no flashlights out there, no uh motors running. Uh

1200
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:04.760
there was.

1201
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:06.079
There wasn't anybody.

1202
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.119
When I hollered at to see if anybody was there,

1203
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:12.399
nobody on the camp. So I said, well, uh, anybody

1204
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.000
that's out there walking like this, it's not a person.

1205
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:19.520
So oh, I just stayed around the campfire. I didn't

1206
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:21.640
cook mines in the camp. Uh uh.

1207
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:23.520
While I was gone, I wouldn't eat.

1208
01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:26.039
I wouldn't eat out because I try to put as

1209
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:29.199
little food in the camp if I'm looking for Sashquatch

1210
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:33.880
as possible. And there are black bears up there, and

1211
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.600
I didn't want to deal with that either. But uh uh,

1212
01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:41.640
So I cooked two meals there and that was just

1213
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:44.319
early in the days, so i'd have them something deep.

1214
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.880
But my main meals I just go into town and

1215
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.399
eat to keep from having anything and that that saved

1216
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:54.840
done having garbage and and stuff. So there's stuff like

1217
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:58.159
that that I've learned over the years not to do. Uh.

1218
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:01.399
I don't try the camp real close to a waterway,

1219
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.079
even though I was within line aside from the top

1220
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.439
of the hill. The waterway was a good I guess

1221
01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:11.319
a mile and a half down through the trees down there.

1222
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:15.399
You know, I was un elevated land, so I could

1223
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.560
sit down through there and see it. But I don't.

1224
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:21.199
I don't get real close like that. I always try

1225
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:23.920
to make sure that I've got a good place that

1226
01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:26.960
if anybody's gonna come at me, they can only come

1227
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.760
at me from one or two to directions at the

1228
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.720
same time. And so you know, a lot of that

1229
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:36.479
is just a good wood craft. It ain't got nothing

1230
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:39.159
to do with Sashquatch. It's just what you learn in

1231
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.039
the woods. And I've been in the woods enough. I

1232
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.039
grew up in it. Deddy was a great hunter gatherer,

1233
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:49.760
and he taught me. He taught me what I know

1234
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.840
uptil I got grown, and then I taught myself to

1235
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.840
other stuff. But you know, you got to know what

1236
01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:59.039
you're doing, and if they see that you're competent.

1237
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:01.000
Wise words for sure.

1238
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.119
I'm going to have to keep Mark Twain on my

1239
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:06.560
radar because that's kind of more up near my area too.

1240
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:07.600
More or less.

1241
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:11.399
But Joe, I got I got one final question for you.

1242
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:14.520
It's been a pleasure chatting with you again, and thank you.

1243
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:18.520
But something I'm going to be asking. I'm going to

1244
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:20.920
be asking this from here on out, just because I'm

1245
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:24.000
this is kind of a out of left field one.

1246
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:30.239
But have you ever run into reports of people seeing

1247
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:34.159
or experiencing what they say looks like a hyaena?

1248
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:36.880
The hyena?

1249
01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:37.640
The hyaena?

1250
01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:44.680
No, I haven't. I haven't heard anything like that. Oh,

1251
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:46.840
I think we talked about it the last time. The

1252
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:53.079
only thing that I have run into is people talk

1253
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:58.920
about dog Man and I've I don't. I've never seen more.

1254
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:05.960
But what I have seen is a big bipedal animal

1255
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:06.840
that looks.

1256
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:09.680
Like a baboontugways.

1257
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:12.760
A lot of people say that's gugwets, But when you

1258
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.760
look at a gugway, the nose looks almost like a

1259
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:17.960
bear on their pictures, that's not what I see.

1260
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:21.560
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

1261
01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:43.039
What I seen look looked like a giant baboon. No tail,

1262
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:47.840
but he was his neck and head with solid white,

1263
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:50.199
and it looked like somebody took a giant marky and

1264
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:55.359
drew him a big black eyebrows is uh. Canines were

1265
01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:58.520
about three and a half inches long on the top

1266
01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.399
of his of the muzzle, and the bottom ones were

1267
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:05.000
about an inch inch and a half shorter. And the

1268
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:07.399
way I know how big they were is I saw

1269
01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:10.000
one yawn at me when I was getting up on it.

1270
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.800
So I walked up, but I was coming out of

1271
01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:16.800
the woods. I've been bowl hunting and I come out

1272
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:18.960
of the woods, so it was it was after dark,

1273
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.399
It's like eight thirty. I set up way after that

1274
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:24.880
because I went to sleep, and so I was coming

1275
01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:27.399
out and I heard something moving. And I've got a

1276
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:34.319
light that's that's nine hundred and ninety nine lumins or

1277
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.279
nine nine thousand lumins. So when I lighted up, it

1278
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:42.159
makes everything look like a daytime, and you can adjust

1279
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.880
the beam to be real bright down to it makes

1280
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:50.079
a little low square. And I heard something in the

1281
01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:52.760
woods and I was walking while down the road, so

1282
01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:54.720
I popped that on and shine it up there, and

1283
01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:57.760
it was it was one of these animals. The belly

1284
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:01.199
was white too, but everything else was white. And he

1285
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:04.960
was sitting there eating a handful of green or pine

1286
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:07.840
needs and he was holding it and chewing on it

1287
01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.640
or on the side, just like you see Budge Bunny

1288
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:14.600
chewing on a or on a carrot on the cartoons.

1289
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:18.920
And I sat there and he was looking around, didn't

1290
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:21.000
care if I Zira got the light on him, did

1291
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:23.279
pay attention to me? Case I started walking up on him,

1292
01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:26.960
and I got about forty five feet from him, and

1293
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:31.039
he rolled his lip up like like a baboon to us.

1294
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:34.600
And I stopped there a little bit, and he looked

1295
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:36.600
at me and look down, look up at me, roll

1296
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:39.439
his lip, looked down and looked to the side. So

1297
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:42.359
then he kept on eating. So I took another step

1298
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.079
or two up, and then he yawned real loud at

1299
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:51.560
me and hugged. And I knew then he wasn't bored,

1300
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:54.960
he was nervous, and so I stopped. I said, okay, look,

1301
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:57.920
I'm watching you, but I'm going to back off. So

1302
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.239
I backed off another ten fifteen feet backwards and still

1303
01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:02.720
held the light on him.

1304
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:03.640
He didn't care.

1305
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.159
I was sitting there watching him for nothing. And I

1306
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:08.239
sat there and watched him for about thirty minutes. They

1307
01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:10.520
got up and walked off on all fours, just like

1308
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:14.119
a baboon, and went down towards the river. And when

1309
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.239
I made sure he wasn't going the way I was going,

1310
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:21.439
I cut back. He was going north east and I

1311
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:25.560
headed south of the southwest stretch. I just gonna make

1312
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:27.720
sure he wasn't going to run up on me whenever

1313
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:31.640
I turned that light off. So after he got gone,

1314
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:33.560
he didn't act like he cared if I knew he

1315
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:36.000
was there or not. So I went.

1316
01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.640
I went and talked to game Ward.

1317
01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:42.840
And the next week after that, down there and I

1318
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:45.039
seen him and I just pulled up. I said, hey,

1319
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:47.640
I want to ask you a question. They said, sure,

1320
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:51.479
go ahead. I said, are there any large mammals besides

1321
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:53.840
black bears.

1322
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:56.039
And cougar down here that I can't shoot?

1323
01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:58.680
And he sat there and told him, and he said,

1324
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.920
besides my Baron Cooper. She said mammals. No, he said,

1325
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.319
I said, okay, So that told me that there was

1326
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:11.199
something there. There could be something bigger than you know,

1327
01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:15.119
like alligators or something down there, because he's specified in mammals,

1328
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:18.159
so he thought, said mammals now. So I said, all right, thanks,

1329
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:20.279
so I turned around, walked up. I got about ten

1330
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:22.279
steps from him, and he hollered at and said, hey,

1331
01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.479
come here, And I said what He said, why'd you

1332
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:27.800
ask me a question? I said, oh, no reason. I said,

1333
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:30.680
you wouldn't believe me if I told you anyway. I said, so,

1334
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.600
I don't want to. I don't want you think him crazy.

1335
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.960
He said no, no, he said, just tell me why

1336
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:39.199
you think that. And so I sat there and I

1337
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:41.239
told him about what I seen and the men sitting

1338
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:43.399
there watching him. He said, hey, will you come up

1339
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:45.279
here to the office and show me on the map

1340
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.159
where you saw him at. I said sure. So this

1341
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:51.960
so I found out this game. Morton was an income

1342
01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:56.039
and a biologist up here. The guy who was retiring

1343
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.920
was still in the process of retiring, so he'd been

1344
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.199
there thirty or something years, and he was at the

1345
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:04.680
office up there. So he walked in and after I

1346
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:07.279
followed him up farm and we got at his office

1347
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:09.359
and we walked in there where there's a big old

1348
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:12.199
map of it, and he called that other guy in there,

1349
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:17.760
and he told him, said, I want you to I

1350
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:22.680
want you to hear this what we're talking about. And

1351
01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:25.199
he asked me or to tell the guy what I

1352
01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:28.159
saw again, describe him and everything. And I told him

1353
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:33.159
what I saw and uh he he said, well, where'd

1354
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:35.319
you see it? Out on the mount And I pointed

1355
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:41.119
on the mountain I showed him, and that game more

1356
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:43.439
than told the new one told us. Was said, that's

1357
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:47.159
where I saw those tracks at around through that. I said, yeah,

1358
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:51.239
there's tracks up through there. Now. I said, uh, well,

1359
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.600
I'm coming back tomorrow and probably see if I can

1360
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:58.399
figure out where it comes from. And he said, well,

1361
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:03.199
let's let's look at let's look at doing that sometime.

1362
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:05.600
If you don't mind me going with you. I said,

1363
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:10.039
I don't mind. You know, it's free country whatever, and

1364
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:13.560
so I showed him and he asked the He asked

1365
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:15.680
the guy that was retiring, He said, do you know

1366
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.920
anything about this? And he said, off the on the record,

1367
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:22.600
I don't know anything, he said, but just standing here

1368
01:22:22.880 --> 01:22:25.479
bs and off the record, he said, I've seen the

1369
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:27.640
I seen the tracks, but I ain't never seen that

1370
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:32.720
one makes them. And so uh we went. Make a

1371
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:35.279
long story short, about a week and a half later

1372
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:41.760
we went and we're looking around up through there for deer.

1373
01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:45.760
I did was looking for deer along that road and

1374
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:50.039
he happened to come through and we stopped and talked

1375
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:52.239
a little walk and he's like, we ain't far from

1376
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:54.920
where you saw those tracks, Like, no, let's go for

1377
01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:57.520
any one and see. And so we went up there

1378
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.239
and I took pictures of the tracks. So I had

1379
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:02.319
my bowl with me, and I put my arrow down

1380
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:05.399
in my bowl down and took pictures of a couple

1381
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:07.439
of the tracks, and I think one when I put

1382
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:11.119
water bottle down so he gets size of it. But

1383
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:17.680
we we tracked that foot or trail for a mile

1384
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:22.079
and about a mile and a quart and it disappears.

1385
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.279
I don't know if it jumped up on a tree

1386
01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:25.840
and swung around or what, but.

1387
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:28.720
We couldn't it was it went into a thicket and

1388
01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:29.199
we couldn't.

1389
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:35.279
We couldn't find any uh under or undergrowth or broke

1390
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:38.920
down or any trip or leaves messed up or anything.

1391
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:41.359
So I don't know where it went from.

1392
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.680
There, but I do know that about four weeks later,

1393
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:49.760
that whole area was tiled up made into a feeding plot.

1394
01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:55.560
Really, oh wow, that's that's really interesting. Is I'm sure

1395
01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.960
you can't share specifics about the location, but is there

1396
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:03.399
like maybe area or anything you can share about.

1397
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:10.119
Yeah, it's a public Waldloft management area, seven thousand acres.

1398
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:14.479
When I first started, when I first moved down to Mississippi,

1399
01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:18.479
I always hunted on private property. I got down here

1400
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:22.079
and I didn't have any private property to hunt on.

1401
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:27.319
So I found the Waldloffe management area, and I went

1402
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:31.960
in and talked with a guy that was working down

1403
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.000
there at the time, that was putting out food plots

1404
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:38.840
and stuff. And he said, listen, if you bowl hunt

1405
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.000
down here, you've got seven thousand acres to yourself in

1406
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:46.159
this part of the management area. I said why, he said,

1407
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:48.560
won't nobody go in there? He said, it's creepy.

1408
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:49.279
He said.

1409
01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:52.319
I work down here, and I make my I make

1410
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:56.079
my food plots and stuff down here, he said, But

1411
01:24:56.439 --> 01:24:58.800
I don't stay around here after two or three in

1412
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:01.159
the afternoon because it preached me out all day so

1413
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:04.239
much that I can't stand in any of this area.

1414
01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:06.479
He said. The rest of the park, the rest of

1415
01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:09.039
the management area ain't like that. He said, it's this area.

1416
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:13.000
I said, that's probably because that's that's something in there.

1417
01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:18.039
But my thinking, I told him, was oh, that's where

1418
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:20.079
I want to be, because that means all the big

1419
01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:23.119
bucks run in here, hiding from all the other hunters,

1420
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:25.640
and that's where I want to be. And that's what

1421
01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:28.439
what I went. I went looking in through there. I

1422
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:33.319
wouldn't even I wasn't even looking for sasquatch when I

1423
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:36.800
run across them down there, I was looking for big deer.

1424
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:37.479
Uh huh.

1425
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:41.439
Can can you share what wildlife management area that is?

1426
01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:47.800
Oh, it's in the Divide. Well, that's that's what it's called,

1427
01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:54.520
the Divide Wildlife Management Area in Tishamingo County.

1428
01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:02.680
Very interesting. That was a very interesting story at the end.

1429
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:05.199
I know you'd kind of shared that the first time,

1430
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:10.000
but there is definitely some interesting details in it this

1431
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.960
time as well. So listeners, if you know anything about

1432
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:18.239
the Divide Wildlife Management Area in tish Mingo County, Mississippi.

1433
01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:21.880
Right, you're right on the east side.

1434
01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:24.800
Put it on the east side of down Boby, Right,

1435
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:25.920
don't go on the west side.

1436
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:28.920
Okay, east side of the creek.

1437
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.399
Oh, it's a Tom big Bee Waterway Tennessee Tom Bigbee

1438
01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:38.039
Waterway with connects the Tennessee River to the tom big

1439
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:46.039
Bee River. It's it's it's a a large channel that

1440
01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:50.640
goes down through this man made Uh. But yeah, it's

1441
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.239
it's probably a quarter mile wide. I don't know how

1442
01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:58.560
deep it is. Ain't there swimming, but it's largest. We

1443
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:02.119
go from the Tennessee River to the tom Bigbee River

1444
01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:05.239
through the ten town there. Well, you'd probably say it

1445
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:08.239
on the map if you're looking at a map. Sure,

1446
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:15.079
in Tishmingo County it runs across Highway seventy two around

1447
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:18.880
burns Toby Old, Mississippi, just east of Burnsfield.

1448
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:21.199
Well, there you go. Listeners.

1449
01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:26.239
If you've experienced anything weird in there, definitely let me

1450
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.640
know or put it in the comments so people can share.

1451
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:35.520
But Joe, it's always a pleasure to chat with you. You've

1452
01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:38.640
had some wild things happen, and thank you so much

1453
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:42.079
for hanging out. I'm sure there's some new listeners this

1454
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:45.000
time that are like, you know, I've got something weird

1455
01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:46.159
happening at my house.

1456
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:47.720
How do I get in touch with Joe?

1457
01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:54.039
Well, send you a comment or holler at you. I'm

1458
01:27:54.079 --> 01:28:00.159
on Facebook. Joseph Nathaniel Flippo. There's no secret people that

1459
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:03.800
people around here at know know me, know what I do.

1460
01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:07.199
You know, there's there's a lot of people that say

1461
01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:10.760
I'm an expert, but I just I've got real life experience.

1462
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.560
I don't set around and look at sasquatch through a

1463
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:17.840
screen and think about anything. And there's a lot of

1464
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:22.319
people who claim to be experts that they're not experts.

1465
01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:25.000
They're they're experts in their own mind.

1466
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:26.840
But if you get chased out.

1467
01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:28.920
Of the woods, you don't know what you're doing your

1468
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:31.399
harass and wildlife mm hmm.

1469
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:33.640
Man wild stuff.

1470
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:37.199
Well, thank you so much for hanging out today, Joe,

1471
01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:38.680
and I appreciate you coming on.

1472
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:43.560
You're welcome. Yeah, I've been doing this for a while,

1473
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:46.359
Like I said, told you for I talk for days

1474
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:48.520
about this because this is my gam that's stuff that

1475
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:51.520
I know. And it amazes me that people don't know

1476
01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.560
about this stuff because I started out as a skeptic

1477
01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:59.880
and I didn't even till I saw one and I

1478
01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:03.680
had to admit, look, I saw it. It's got to

1479
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:06.720
be there. That's when I started looking and things started clicking.

1480
01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:11.960
But you know, I haven't learned anything that anybody else

1481
01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:15.520
that takes the time can't learn. Knowing what to look

1482
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.800
for sometimes is just as important as knowing what to

1483
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:23.359
not look for. And you've got to be able to

1484
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:27.640
look and say if a man can make this ninety

1485
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:32.239
percent of time, he probably did. But if you got

1486
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:35.920
an old tree that's got a fifteen sixteen inch base

1487
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:38.640
that's upside down jammed in the ground, a man didn't

1488
01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:42.000
do it unless there's a bunch of tractor prints all

1489
01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:45.039
around it, and they'll be there a while. But you know,

1490
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.239
if it's not just obvious that a man couldn't do it,

1491
01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:51.399
I always give the benefit of adapt to humans because

1492
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:54.560
humans are in the woods a lot, a lot that

1493
01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:57.199
other people don't realize. You know, you're not the only

1494
01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.039
ones that's in the woods, and you've got to.

1495
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:00.720
Be careful too, uh.

1496
01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:03.760
I had. I had a couple of experts getting mad

1497
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:06.640
at me one time and kick me out of their

1498
01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:09.319
group because I asked them, uh, you know, when they're

1499
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:11.840
in the woods, how do they know that when they're

1500
01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:15.840
hollering in something answering that it's not another uh uh

1501
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.399
expert to hollering back at them. And they didn't seem

1502
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:22.079
to like that too well. But you know, you got

1503
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.640
to you got to be able to to know what

1504
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:29.199
the real thing is by knowing what the fakes are.

1505
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:33.880
Absolutely you got to be okay with people asking questions,

1506
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:36.239
you know, that's a that's a big red flag if

1507
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:36.800
you're not so.

1508
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:40.439
But I know there's there's people that uh at uh

1509
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:44.600
make comments, say that you know I'm a fraud or whatever,

1510
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:47.880
or I I don't lie. I say, look, just come

1511
01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:50.640
into woods with me. I don't ever charge anybody for

1512
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:53.079
anything out there. If they ask me and they need help,

1513
01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:54.520
I know how it is.

1514
01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:55.720
I've been there.

1515
01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:59.560
I've been on both sides of it, so I say, listen,

1516
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:02.680
I'll come down look whatever where that you know depends

1517
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:07.399
on whereth is and how I'm I'm able to get

1518
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:10.119
there or because of my schedule. But this time of

1519
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.720
year is pretty it's pretty picked up, and I do stuff.

1520
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:17.800
I was actually on the internet uh today looking up

1521
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:22.800
some information about a place down there in uh Fernando

1522
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.760
de Soto or National Park down here in South Mississippi.

1523
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:30.279
They got some stuff going on down there that's interested.

1524
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.960
But yeah, I enjoyed talking with you. Dale. Feel free

1525
01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:38.000
to holler at me if you need, if you need

1526
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:40.600
to ask a question or whatever. If I know the answer,

1527
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:43.800
I'll tell you. If I've not had any experience with it,

1528
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.119
I don't have a problem saying I don't know, but

1529
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:47.039
we'll figure it out.

1530
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:49.640
You know.

1531
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:54.279
That's so you know, that's that's goes for a lot

1532
01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:56.399
of different things, and you can keep them out of

1533
01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:58.960
the yard. People say you can't. There's ways to do that,

1534
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:00.560
but that's a different show.

1535
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:01.039
All in it.

1536
01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:03.920
Sale absolutely well, Joe, Thank you sir.

1537
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:06.640
Oh you're welcome, loud.

1538
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:09.079
You have a good day, and.

1539
01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:14.640
Hope y'all will have a good rest of the moment.

1540
01:32:15.239 --> 01:32:19.119
It's holiday season coming up, so listen. Listen for all

1541
01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:22.159
that family member that don't mind telling you the crazy

1542
01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:23.800
stuff because they just might be rapped.

1543
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:27.399
Oh, I love it. That's that's good advice. That's good advice. Well,

1544
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:28.920
all right, I'll be in touch with you.

1545
01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:29.319
Joe.

1546
01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:32.640
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1547
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:35.439
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1555
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:03.560
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1556
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:07.039
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1557
01:33:07.800 --> 01:33:08.600
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1558
01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:11.680
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1559
01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:14.199
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1560
01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:17.199
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1561
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1562
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1565
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1566
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1567
01:33:39.680 --> 01:33:40.199
for listening.

1568
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.000
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1569
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:29.600
our stories.

1570
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:32.159
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening.

1571
01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:35.079
That's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will

1572
01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:37.600
give them the courage to come out. And now it

1573
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.960
feels so bad about it, Who cares what anybody thinks.

1574
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.319
I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

1575
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:45.159
That's all I care about.

1576
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:04.600
Please let people know, Please let them know.

1577
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:07.600
If you've ever seen one of these things, you need

1578
01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:11.359
to tell because if you don't, then shame on you.

1579
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:23.079
You have shame on you.

1580
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:00.079
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