Sept. 27, 2024

The Shenandoah Sasquatch with Tyler Hall from STM

Join the Bigfoot Society as we sit down with Tyler Hall, a writer and director at Small Town Monsters, whose projects inspire the show. Tyler discusses his latest ventures, including 'Phantom Lights,' a feature-length film about mysterious orb lights,...

Join the Bigfoot Society as we sit down with Tyler Hall, a writer and director at Small Town Monsters, whose projects inspire the show. Tyler discusses his latest ventures, including 'Phantom Lights,' a feature-length film about mysterious orb lights, and 'Shenandoah Sasquatch,' a series set in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley. He shares compelling personal encounters, including an eerie night in West Virginia where he heard bipedal footsteps and saw a mysterious light. Delve into Bigfoot, phantom lights, Appalachian folklore, and the intriguing behind-the-scenes stories as Tyler gives a sneak peek into his world of cryptid filmmaking. Don't miss this episode packed with captivating tales and unique insights into the paranormal!

Resouces:

Shenandoah Sasquatch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihbPHp3d2SM

Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety
(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)

🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1

Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38

Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=shared

Recommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat

✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety

✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/join

Let’s connect:

Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/
Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_society
Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.society

Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.

My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XY

Put some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety

Pick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdt

Send mail here:

Bigfoot Society
125 E 1st St. #233
Earlham, IA 50072

Send business inquiries to:

WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.799
Welcome to big for Society. If you have bigfoot activity

2
00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.040
to report from the same areas discussed in this episode,

3
00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:09.640
please reach out to me directly after this episode. And

4
00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:12.160
if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss

5
00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:15.320
a personal bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly

6
00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:18.239
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish

7
00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:20.239
there was more big for Society to listen to you

8
00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.760
every week? Well there is now. If you become a

9
00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.199
supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members

10
00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:31.120
only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even

11
00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.359
more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward

12
00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.359
slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with

13
00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:41.159
the show, all right, Pickfoot Society. We got the privilege

14
00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:44.200
of talking to Tyler Hall. Tyler Hall is a writer

15
00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.719
and director with Small Town Monsters. Of course, if you're

16
00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.759
listening to this show, you're probably aware of who small

17
00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:54.759
Town Monsters is really. There'd be no Bigfoot Society without them.

18
00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:57.600
They were a big inspiration and motivation for me to

19
00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:02.439
start this show. So Tyler, it's great talking Tia. I

20
00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:06.200
met you at Monsterfest two this year and we got

21
00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:08.000
to hang out a little bit. But how's it going, man?

22
00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.159
Yeah, man, go good, good to see you. Thanks for

23
00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.640
having me on the show. And we did, we did.

24
00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:16.760
We got to hang out at Monster Monster Frest. I

25
00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.239
don't know if you know about the Do you know

26
00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:19.000
about the TYPEO?

27
00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:19.560
Yeah?

28
00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:21.159
Do I have it on my wristband?

29
00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.560
That dude, I didn't get a risk band. But that's okay.

30
00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:25.599
Yeah.

31
00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:30.040
In your own words, what have you been doing for STM?

32
00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:32.920
What have you been involved with all that good stuff?

33
00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.239
Bantom Lights, Man, Phantom Lights. I just wrapped on it

34
00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.079
back in April. It just got cut. So now it's

35
00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:43.400
getting shipped off to wherever it's going to be at,

36
00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.920
probably Amazon at some point, but premieres at the Eerie

37
00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:52.599
Horror Film Festival in Erie, Pennsylvania on October fourth. So

38
00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.560
that's my latest project. I'm working on a series right

39
00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:01.120
now called Shindo Sasquatch that takes place in Virginia, right

40
00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:03.959
here in Shindo Valley, which is my my bread and

41
00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:07.120
butter at my backyards home I grew up here. And

42
00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:12.240
it actually premieres sometime like right now, is on Small

43
00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:13.000
Town Monsters.

44
00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:17.560
So the first episode dropped like soon, very soon, sometime

45
00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:17.879
that night.

46
00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:21.400
Is it really tonight all right, Yeah, yeah, down, we're trying.

47
00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.199
We're trying to get it up. Yeah, we're trying to

48
00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.840
get it up. Something happened with the you know how

49
00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:29.080
like when YouTube when the videos asked like process and

50
00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.759
they check for something's going on right now with this set.

51
00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:32.439
Just message me.

52
00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:35.639
I'm like, I'm doing a podcast, brother, I don't know.

53
00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:37.479
I don't know what to do. I've been battling it

54
00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:37.919
all day.

55
00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.919
Dude, you know what it is. Demand doesn't want the

56
00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.560
bigfoot stuff out there. I'm not even kidding, dude.

57
00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.879
I've heard it. Dude, I've heard all those conspiracies.

58
00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.360
I'll tell you. I'll tell you this much. There are

59
00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:56.000
so many podcasts, So regular podcast I record phone calls.

60
00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:00.360
There are so many interviews when you start to get

61
00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:04.439
into like the deep stuff where it's like yeah, click

62
00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.960
and you're like, hmm, that's so weird that the phone

63
00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.960
calls keep shutting down all the time. Maybe my cellular

64
00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.360
is just not good. But tell me about phantom lights.

65
00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:18.439
So I think I know what those are. I'm more

66
00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:20.159
of a bigfoot guy, but kind of tell me and

67
00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:22.439
my listeners, like, what's the deal with the phantom lights?

68
00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.800
Yeah, so phantom lights are you could call them just orbs.

69
00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:30.360
That's a better, more simple term for them. Phantom lights,

70
00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.199
orb lights. They have an entire pluck. Wrote different names

71
00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.639
and you hear me talk about that there. They transcend,

72
00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:43.199
just like a lot of phenomenon that transcends culture and ethnicity,

73
00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:47.159
and you hear about them all over the world. Fairy lights,

74
00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:51.319
you know, just different names. So Phantom Lights the film.

75
00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.240
It's a feature length movie and it takes place in

76
00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:57.919
the Chestnut Ridge. And Ron Murphy who wrote Lights in

77
00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.639
the Midst and a whole bunch of different other books,

78
00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:04.039
One Phenomena in the Chestnut Ridge and other places, he

79
00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.080
is featured heavily in the film and he helped me.

80
00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.560
He helped me make that movie possible. Man.

81
00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:14.159
Without Ron Murphy and Heather Mojer like really being the

82
00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.480
backbone of the research, that movie wouldn't have happened.

83
00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:22.120
But yeah, that's Phantom Lights. And I go.

84
00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.920
Into a lot of civil or a lot of nuts

85
00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.399
of war, a lot of coal history, a lot of

86
00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.759
coal and steel industry oppression history.

87
00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.079
Uh, because that's that's like my background. Man.

88
00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.399
You know, I've got family members who were coal miners

89
00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:39.120
and they fought in Redneck. You know cold Wars back

90
00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.399
in the day in West Virginia, so I wanted to

91
00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:46.000
I wanted to really highlight that part of the Chestnut Ridges.

92
00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.000
Histories that other union and labor movements.

93
00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:52.199
Wow, I didn't know there are so red neck cole

94
00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.680
Wars where I didn't. Oh dude, I grew up in Massachusetts,

95
00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:58.160
so we did not have redneck cole Wars in our

96
00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.600
in our history. I was actually in southern Vermont, so

97
00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:03.199
it is more Ethan and all that stuff.

98
00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.240
There's a movie called Mate Wand and it's about cole

99
00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:08.519
Wars in West Virginia and.

100
00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:09.879
Dude, move yet.

101
00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:11.600
It's got James Earl Jens in it. He tries to

102
00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.720
join the union. People were like, I can't join union.

103
00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:16.399
This one guy stands up for and he's like, he's

104
00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:17.639
union man, he's our man.

105
00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:20.800
And it's cool. Dude, gives me gooseboks right now talking

106
00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:21.240
about it.

107
00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:21.759
I love it.

108
00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:24.720
I made That's where the term, that's where the term

109
00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.879
redneck came from. Man ach dudes are wearing red bandanas

110
00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.759
and those were the coal Union strikers.

111
00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.519
All right, Cool dude, that's great.

112
00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:35.800
Cool.

113
00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:41.759
Uh shannandoah sasquatch I have I have been waiting for

114
00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.600
this one. I've had a few interviews from Virginia to

115
00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:49.079
find to me, is Shannandoah Does that apply to the

116
00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.000
whole state or is it a certain part of the

117
00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:52.199
state that we're talking about.

118
00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:57.560
Yeah, so Shando Valley applies to like roughly one hundred

119
00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:02.079
and twenty so miles early on the state of Virginia.

120
00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:04.120
So it runs, you know, north to.

121
00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.519
South, south of south and north however you want to

122
00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.959
look at it, and then east west. It's about from

123
00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.759
the eastern side over in like Charlottesville area into like

124
00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.079
a couple of counties in West Virginia. That's about how

125
00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.040
wide it is. So I don't know, give or take

126
00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.279
another ninety miles or something. So it's a very condensed

127
00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.959
you know, it's like a colloquialism you could call it.

128
00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:32.439
And it's just another part of the Appalachia Mountains. Inside

129
00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.959
the Shandow Valley you have the Mass and Nutte Mountain

130
00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.600
Range and the Sandoah Mountain Range. That's just kind of

131
00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.160
what we've nicknamed those mountains. They make up the Blue

132
00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.920
Ridge Mountains. The Blue Ridge Mountains make up the Appalachia Mountains.

133
00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.480
So it's just kind of just a valley within the

134
00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.319
northeastern part of or northwestern part of Virginia.

135
00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.800
Interesting, was this a project that you'd come into STM

136
00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.839
and you're like, I want to make this or how

137
00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.879
did this all kind of come about for you?

138
00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:02.160
Yeah?

139
00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:05.639
So originally I came up with a couple of different

140
00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:09.680
pitches of what I wanted to do, and Mermaids was

141
00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:11.920
one of them. Like, I had all these wild ideas

142
00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:16.040
and Seth's like looking at all of them, and Shandoah

143
00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.639
was on the list and he's like, how about you

144
00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:20.040
do that as your first series?

145
00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:21.879
And I'm like that's perfect, man, It's right here in

146
00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:22.480
the backyard.

147
00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.040
So but I didn't have any contacts with this, so

148
00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:26.839
we kind of saddle on it for a while until

149
00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.000
it was like the right time, and then out of nowhere,

150
00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:34.519
Amy but gave me a contact and that was Charles Kimbro.

151
00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.680
So yeah, I interviewed Amy and she was like, I

152
00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.839
know a guy who lives in the Shando Valley where

153
00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:41.319
you're from.

154
00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:43.959
She's like, here's his number. So I was like, oh tight.

155
00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:45.959
And then I sat on that and I'm like, dude,

156
00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.519
I have a contact now for this Shenandoah thing that

157
00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:50.639
I want to do, and so I reached out to Charles.

158
00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:52.439
We got Krispy Krean and.

159
00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.839
We talked about big food and life and stuff and

160
00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.519
his sons in the Navy and he's servant right now overseas.

161
00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.480
We talked about that and he's just cold, and I

162
00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:01.680
was like, man, this is gonna be a good fit.

163
00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.319
And then come to find out he's a BFRO researcher

164
00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.759
and I'm like, dude, what that's crazy.

165
00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.879
So yeah, that's how it kind of came into fruition.

166
00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.040
And then this is a I don't know if she

167
00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:15.319
should I just dropped something right now.

168
00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.160
I mean, it's if Seth is cool with it, why not?

169
00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.319
Well, so I think the first episode will be out

170
00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.879
by the time this launches, so I think it's definitely cool.

171
00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:27.000
Okay, I don't know.

172
00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:33.879
So Monoga Hala Bigfoot Bioacoustic, that name is definitely you

173
00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.080
know you've heard of it if you're really into this

174
00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:36.919
bigfoot stuff.

175
00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:37.720
Uh.

176
00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:41.600
That guy is actually in the series as himself and

177
00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:43.840
his name is Devin Counts.

178
00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:47.559
So yeah, so he actually.

179
00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:52.279
Like now, dude, dude, he like wanted to come forward

180
00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.120
and like share everything about his life pretty much.

181
00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:57.759
I shouldn't say it like that. It just kind of

182
00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.120
happened naturally. He's like, yeah, I'll be in it. And

183
00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.679
and I didn't know really the whole war. I didn't

184
00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.720
know what I had when I when I shot like

185
00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.519
the first weekend with those guys, and then over the

186
00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.840
couple of days that I was with these dudes, I

187
00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:13.919
was like, Oh, crap, this.

188
00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.360
Is a big deal because I'm a new dude.

189
00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.000
I'm a movie kid, you know, Like I didn't grow

190
00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:22.960
up so much with I don't know if it's a mix, right,

191
00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:26.000
So I grew up watching this stuff on TV, but like,

192
00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.799
I don't know, was it super into it like some

193
00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:29.320
people are.

194
00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:31.759
So I didn't know monog ala. I didn't know what

195
00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:32.200
I had.

196
00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.200
And then but I figured it out and I applied

197
00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.519
that to the to the show, and I hope I

198
00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.320
hope people see that.

199
00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:39.360
I hope people know that.

200
00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.679
I'm trying to be like, I don't know what was

201
00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.320
a good word for that, Like, I have something that's

202
00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.879
pretty valuable to give to the world, and I just

203
00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:49.919
want to do that justice.

204
00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:51.879
And I want to do that justice for Devin as well,

205
00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.159
because it's a pretty big deal.

206
00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:57.720
He works in the defense contracting world, and you know

207
00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:00.759
to come out and say, like you, this is what

208
00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:01.759
I do all the time.

209
00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:02.440
It's a big deal.

210
00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:08.919
So well to respect that man ten times more excited

211
00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.559
I was excited before, Like this is a huge deal.

212
00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.840
Like I I would have never guessed that, you know,

213
00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.360
that would not have been on my Bengo card, that

214
00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.840
that individual would be like, yes, this is me, this

215
00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.600
is everything, and it's gonna be yeah, it's going to

216
00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:29.639
be on stm uh present at the same time it happened.

217
00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:35.679
It happened so like naturally was really weird, man, because I,

218
00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:36.039
like I.

219
00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:38.399
Said, I didn't I didn't really know who he was.

220
00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.600
To be honest, I heard the name a few times

221
00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.759
people like interviewing people and stuff, and I'm like, oh,

222
00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:49.200
that's cool. I mysterious guy who was by uh minigna Hala,

223
00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.840
which is you know, which is West Virginia like region.

224
00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.080
I'm like, man, that's cool.

225
00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.440
But then then I'm working with them, and you know,

226
00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.759
it's cool, man, I don't know, It's where life works.

227
00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:02.840
You know.

228
00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.000
It was better that way though, that I wasn't like

229
00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:06.639
a fanboy or something, you know.

230
00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.759
I think it was. I actually think it was because

231
00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.960
there is something to be said for just being a

232
00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.440
just just be cool and hang out with people. And

233
00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.240
you know, I had to learn that heart the hard

234
00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.720
way in Chicago Hair a long time ago with Mike

235
00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.159
Ditka and it did not go well. And so I

236
00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:32.279
was like, just be cool with people. You know, like

237
00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.799
everyone's just a person, so they just want to be

238
00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:40.519
And especially if you see Mike Ditka, give him some space.

239
00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:43.480
He just wants to play video games. He's a great guy.

240
00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:48.039
I want to hear this story now, dude.

241
00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.759
I'll tell you now. So remember that. Remember the movie

242
00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:55.759
Kicking and Screaming with Will Ferrell. Okay, so I'm not

243
00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.559
a football guy, but I knew Kicking and Screaming with

244
00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.720
Will Ferrell and he's in it, right, And so I

245
00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:06.200
was like, I was, I was freaking out because he

246
00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:08.360
was in the movie kicking and Screaming and he was

247
00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.039
like just sitting there in the airport playing like this

248
00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:15.639
old eighties handheld game. Dude, Mike Ditka from Kicking and

249
00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.879
Screaming and he was the dude, I'm playing poker or

250
00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.639
whatever he was playing. And it did not go as

251
00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:22.960
as amazing as I thought.

252
00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:26.200
But but he was an NFL player though, right, like

253
00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:26.799
like big.

254
00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:34.639
Coach I think coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he's like speaking, screaming, yeah.

255
00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:39.000
Right, yeah, dang dude, it's because it's because it was

256
00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:39.919
the movie reference.

257
00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:41.639
He didn't like some movie.

258
00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:47.960
Reference absolutely Shenandoa Sasquatch. So I don't know if he

259
00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.320
can give us this much. So are you actually going

260
00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:53.679
out and uh, is it a thing where you're you're

261
00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.879
going out looking for stuff or you're more maybe interviewing

262
00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.559
people that are involved with that part of the country

263
00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.799
in Bigfoot or maybe a little little bit of a surprise.

264
00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:10.159
Both. It's both. It's heavy in field research and it's

265
00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:11.600
heavy in interviews.

266
00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:16.039
So each this first one was very interview heavy, just

267
00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.279
because I introduced these guys and wanted to give them

268
00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:23.279
their time, you know, so they could tell the audience

269
00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.600
who they are and how they go about research. Before

270
00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.200
we just jumped right into field research. But now we've

271
00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.720
got a little plot of land. Well it's not little,

272
00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:36.759
but it's like two hundred acres out in the western

273
00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:42.120
side of the Shando Valley here across Shando Mountain. And yeah,

274
00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.840
we've been hunkering down there and I'm just getting at

275
00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:46.960
it over there and doing research with those guys.

276
00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.159
So it's cool. I'm learning a lot about bigfooting.

277
00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.679
I enjoyed a lot more than I thought I was

278
00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:55.000
because it's just like it's just really camping and just

279
00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:55.919
hanging out with the boys.

280
00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:57.879
And that's what I really love about it because I'm

281
00:13:57.879 --> 00:13:58.559
an outdoor STO.

282
00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.679
I was a you know, part service law enforcement ranger

283
00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.240
for four years, and before that worked on trow Crew

284
00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:08.639
did wildfire. Like my whole life spin outside, so it's

285
00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:11.440
natural and I'm like big footing fits into that so perfect.

286
00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:14.240
It's just hanging out and then going to look for

287
00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.960
this thing that and what what better is that?

288
00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.360
Dude, Like there's a creature that lives out there.

289
00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:24.200
Even cooler, you can get weird, Tyler, I'll tell you that.

290
00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.000
I'll tell you this, much like I went out to Oregon.

291
00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:34.879
And when you get deep and it changes, you like it,

292
00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.120
Eventually you will if you keep doing this and you

293
00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.240
like keep I don't well, I don't know. Maybe with

294
00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.480
STM it's different, but if you like really get into

295
00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:45.559
it and you start getting out there, there'll be up

296
00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.039
There'll be a point where like something will happen and

297
00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:52.679
you're like, oh my goodness, what's that? WHOA did you

298
00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:58.360
get a scrape on your arm. Whoa, Yeah, something did happen, dude, that.

299
00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.120
Like arterial eat that? Whoa, So I know what you're

300
00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.639
talking about. That was out in Mount Saint Helen's.

301
00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:09.799
Oh oh right when you when you went out because

302
00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.919
you had something going on out there, right, which yeah,

303
00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:14.759
very much about but no.

304
00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:18.039
We can't talk about that at all. But yeah, so

305
00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.279
it is weird, dude. I'm with you.

306
00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.679
I think that was one of our first conversations when

307
00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.519
when you said you've had weird stuff happened. I'm like yeah,

308
00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:28.519
and I'm like you have too, and you're like yeah,

309
00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.279
and I'm like, oh, dude, yeah, we know, we know

310
00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:31.720
it's up.

311
00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.879
It was so this is before I went out to Oregon,

312
00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:39.200
but I don't know, dude. So like sometimes and not

313
00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:42.320
to get too weird, but like sometimes I'm like talking

314
00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.639
to a person or hanging out with some person and

315
00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:48.159
I'll be like, dude, this person has been through some

316
00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.759
weird stuff. Like you can tell. And I don't know

317
00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.000
if that's weird to me to say, but like, yeah,

318
00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:56.440
I could. I you you have an interesting history. I

319
00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.720
kind of can tell, Tyler, you've been through some interesting stuff.

320
00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.480
And I don't know exactly what it is, but you

321
00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.120
probably have had some some weird stuff happening in your past.

322
00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:09.000
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

323
00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.840
I really think so insane stuff. Oh yeah, we have

324
00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.759
a we'll share it over beer one day.

325
00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.559
All right, fair enough, but uh, dude, no, I'm.

326
00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:36.279
With you though, Like I can you know you can

327
00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.000
you can sense people. That's not that's not like too

328
00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:40.799
out of that work out of the world anyway.

329
00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:41.039
You know.

330
00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:44.159
It's like people we have that sixth sense in us.

331
00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.960
I think some people do. I think, so that's too

332
00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.799
weird to say, like you can definitely send people and hell,

333
00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:51.639
you know what their vibe is.

334
00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.080
So Tyler, what do you think a bigfoot is? Do

335
00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:00.440
you have any any thoughts as to what we're dealing

336
00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.039
with when we kind of go down the rabbit hole

337
00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:05.640
which is bigfoot?

338
00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:07.480
Yeah?

339
00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.359
I think my first impression of bigfoot growing up was

340
00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:18.079
that it was one singular bigfoot, you know, growing up,

341
00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.640
I was like, it's like a Santa Claus thing, you know.

342
00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.799
Was it Rick Dyer his Bigfoot suit? I remember watching

343
00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.839
one on a Fox News Dude when I was like

344
00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.640
I was little dude, I was probably like ten I

345
00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:33.400
was a little kid and I was sitting in front

346
00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.640
of TV and I'm like, god him, and I thought

347
00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.160
it was like like Santa Claus's next, dude, Like they're

348
00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.519
gonna get Santa Claus that kind of thing. And then

349
00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.279
growing up, I'm like, no way, there's there's probably more

350
00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.920
of them. And then I was like, it's an animal.

351
00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.759
Then I started getting so I got into conservation just

352
00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:53.599
naturally through my career, and I'm like, dude, this thing

353
00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:56.160
could exist, and if it does exist, then that means

354
00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:59.319
that we need to think a lot about how we

355
00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:03.319
interact with it and what are the you know, necessary

356
00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.880
steps to try to protect this creature. I mean, it

357
00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.079
probably doesn't need much more protection. We did probably leave

358
00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:12.039
it alone, but like, how can that transcend into conservation?

359
00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.759
So I think Bigfoot's flesh and blood?

360
00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.079
You know, I know it's a lame answer, but I do.

361
00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:20.359
I think. I think Sasquatch is Lutch blood. But there

362
00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:24.200
are weird things, dude, there's weird stuff with them. I'm

363
00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.960
not going to deny that. You know, no, it's weird.

364
00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.000
I agree because my answer, if you ask me the

365
00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.960
same question is pretty similar, And I always say people

366
00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.599
think it's probably a cop out, but whatever. Mine is

367
00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.000
that it's a flesh and blood creature, but it can

368
00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:42.480
do stuff that science is just like we have no

369
00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.559
idea what's going on, Like we haven't discovered that. So

370
00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:49.440
I think you can do some some weird stuff. I'm

371
00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.960
sure you've you've probably gotten into that. You've heard the stories,

372
00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:56.079
and man, it's the deeper you go and the more

373
00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.640
you interview people, the weirder weirder stuff can get.

374
00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:06.640
And is compelling, dude, and that's that exists.

375
00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.319
That's a real thing. So what you know, maybe they

376
00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:10.759
can do it.

377
00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:17.240
Too, But I would say absolutely. I mean, I mean

378
00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:19.359
speaking at Amy Boo, I was talking to her the

379
00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:23.160
other day and she was sharing with me how she

380
00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.960
and some fellow researchers were out I believe in Pennsylvania

381
00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:32.119
and they all were having heart palpitation issues. And I've

382
00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:35.960
experienced that myself in an area in Iowa when me

383
00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.000
and my son were out doing a big Foot weekend

384
00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.960
and it's very scary, and it blew my mind when

385
00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.319
I heard Amy talking about, like, oh, it's happened to

386
00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.400
other people. Wasn't just a it wasn't just a me thing.

387
00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:54.440
So I think that Bigfoot can do some absolutely weird

388
00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.400
stuff as well. What do you think the closest you've

389
00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.279
ever come to one or or have you had any

390
00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:04.039
interesting experiences for sure?

391
00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.799
Which is even stranger because, like I said, I don't

392
00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.119
really get into this stuff, but it's like my whole

393
00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:16.279
life now and I've had experiences. Maybe I'm like, maybe

394
00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.079
I just don't want to know, you know, I don't know,

395
00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:23.279
but yes, So to answer your question, Glenn Jane, West, Virginia,

396
00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:26.359
my aunt owns a ranch down there and it orders

397
00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.519
the Boy Scout Territory, which is like twenty some thousand

398
00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.079
acres of just forced to land and then on top

399
00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.480
of the mountain there or on the plateau is there

400
00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.880
Boy Scout like barracks and chow hall and stuff like that.

401
00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:42.559
They got a bunch of man made lakes up there,

402
00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:45.319
and it sits empty most of the year until the

403
00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.200
summer when they had like big Boy Scout Jamboree.

404
00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:52.079
But anyway, so she borders that park and then.

405
00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.759
Around all that is the New River Gorge National Park,

406
00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.400
and you know, we've got all that while you know

407
00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:03.400
wildlife area right there. So we go out there and

408
00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.119
it started kind of like just having fun in high

409
00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.799
school with her, you know, watching all the bigfoot stuff

410
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.559
on TV, and so we just kind of go out

411
00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.039
on us around until it got real.

412
00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:15.480
We heard like.

413
00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:20.279
This roar or how one night when I was younger,

414
00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:25.559
about fifteen sixteen, and it was so guttural and you

415
00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.200
could almost feel it, but you could tell it was

416
00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.559
far away, like it was you could tell us miles

417
00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.720
away in the Holland. And that's when I was like,

418
00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:37.720
what was that? All your hair stands up on your

419
00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.680
neck and it's crazy. So after that, we would do

420
00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.319
that every summer, and pretty much every time get a response.

421
00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.759
Anytime I'd go to my aunts, we'd go out and

422
00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.640
she'd do big foot calls and I'd sit there with

423
00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.119
her and something. Most of the time we'd get a response,

424
00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.559
but the to answer your answer your question.

425
00:21:57.319 --> 00:21:58.559
I know, I'm a rambo.

426
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.359
This was like June of this year. I want to

427
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:05.119
say June. I could probably date it. I think I

428
00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.000
have some video of it. My cousin and I were

429
00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:10.680
out on that same property. My aunt was doing calls

430
00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:14.640
back in the house. We walked down into the woods

431
00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:17.920
and dude, it was just a fresh storm that came through,

432
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:22.839
so like there were monster trees everywhere, a bunch of big, fresh,

433
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.279
deadened downs. So it was like it's I mean it's

434
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:27.559
already a jungle pretty much, but I mean now it's

435
00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.440
like super dense. I'm talking trees over top of your

436
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.599
head and just super gnarly. And this is probably about midnight,

437
00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.279
and she's doing house, doing house, doing house. We're not

438
00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.000
hearing nothing, and we're deep in there, and all of

439
00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:42.200
a sudden, dude, we hear this tree crash.

440
00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:43.720
So it was like, what was that?

441
00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:47.319
And then so the movement and then movement that felt

442
00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.400
like it three sixtied us and it felt like more

443
00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.480
than one. So and like bi peele man, it wasn't

444
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.119
like and like there was like birds like freaking out

445
00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:59.759
and flying up out when this started happening. So it'd

446
00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:01.920
like a flock of birds just like or like a

447
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.799
grouse or something just leave its nest or whatever.

448
00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:05.720
And then.

449
00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:09.880
By people kind of walking, and then it felt like

450
00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:14.559
it got closer. My cousin saw a figure, which like

451
00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:16.240
freaked him out. He wanted to get out of there.

452
00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.079
I've got all this on audio because the video is

453
00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.319
kind of crap. It's like super dark, but we recorded

454
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:25.559
most of been an audio and he's freaking out. I'm like, ah, dude,

455
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.839
I want to like like, let's let's wake this out.

456
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.279
And then I see this, dude, it's great. This sounds crazy.

457
00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:37.000
I see this like giant ball, like on the ground, dude.

458
00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.400
And there were lightning bugs going on, dude, like all night.

459
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:43.319
And I grew up in the South, dude, like I

460
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:48.319
know what lighting bugs are. And this was like the

461
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.920
size of a basketball or bigger or a little bit bigger.

462
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.759
And it was just white light white, like whitish blue

463
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.920
light like almost like kind of see that, yeah, like that,

464
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:04.519
and it just illuminated and it was close to ground,

465
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:09.759
illuminated so much illuminated this big fern and I was

466
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:11.000
like whoa.

467
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.799
And then my cousin Cole, he was like, dude, I

468
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:14.400
just saw that too.

469
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.839
And I was like, what did you see And he's

470
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.799
like I saw this light It was like lightning on

471
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:20.359
the ground. And I was like, yeah, dude, I just

472
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.960
saw that too. And then I was like, dude, we

473
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.839
have to stick this out. And so it got more intense,

474
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:29.039
more intense, more intense, and I could hear, dude, this

475
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.240
sounds nuts. I could like hear something breathing and I

476
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.559
felt like, this is just my opinion. I felt like

477
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.799
we were like ten yards from something. What it was,

478
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.160
I am no, I'm not going to say it was Bigfoot.

479
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.000
I'm not going to see him. Be like, dude, we

480
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.839
were close. We were that close to Bigfoot.

481
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:46.599
But if I that's the closest I've ever been to

482
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:51.400
something like that. So it was crazy.

483
00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:55.279
So you had you saw a large ball of light

484
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.000
and at the same time you could hear something breathing

485
00:24:58.039 --> 00:24:59.519
as well.

486
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:04.480
Yeah, and yes, but we also what accompanied all of

487
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:10.799
that too, was like this dead like like the smell

488
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:14.119
of a dead person pretty much, but like a little

489
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:18.559
more musky. The whole the whole time this was happening,

490
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:23.240
it was like this nasty like dead smell. But yeah, dude,

491
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:27.440
the breathing stuff, the bipedal walking around us, the ball

492
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.559
that illuminated a fern, and then that smell, and then

493
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.200
I'm like sitting there, dude, like staring out into the woods,

494
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.880
and I'm like, I'm about to see one. I really

495
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.400
thought I was about see one, and then I can't remember.

496
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:47.319
I had to re review the audio again, but I think, a, yeah,

497
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:48.839
a big giant.

498
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.880
Crash happens, and we did we're like, we're done.

499
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:53.319
It was like super loud, and it was way back

500
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.279
where my aunt was across from the like across their

501
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.000
fence line on another side of the property.

502
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.839
So like a like a tree crash or something crashing

503
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:03.200
through the.

504
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.319
Woods, probably like a tree fell.

505
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:06.880
You know.

506
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:08.240
I think it was just bad.

507
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:09.799
It was not a good time to be in the

508
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:12.079
woods in general, because that storm just came. There was

509
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.079
a monster storm and it was putting down big trees,

510
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:17.839
and uh so it's not not a good not a

511
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.480
good time to be in there. But dude, who knows.

512
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.480
Man like the tree crashing.

513
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.119
Stuff too, can be Bigfoot or could just be the

514
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.240
storm that just came through.

515
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.759
I bet you it was not her first rodeo going

516
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.640
through weird stuff like that, though. Sounds like she's pretty

517
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:36.640
aware of what's going on out there.

518
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.000
Oh yeah, yeah she is. She loves that stuff. She'd

519
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.759
be a great guest. Dude, she's crazy.

520
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:47.359
I'm maybe saying now pass on my info if you want, but.

521
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.279
Yeah, I got you. She'd love to do. She's funny.

522
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:55.480
She does a fundraiser for suicide awareness and West Virginia

523
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:58.200
Colt Willing for Hope too, And she's a cool person.

524
00:26:58.240 --> 00:26:58.440
Man.

525
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.839
Oh that's awesome. Yeah, that is that is very cool.

526
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:07.319
I love stuff like that where you're raising awareness for that.

527
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.920
That kind of stuff is extremely extremely important. My listeners,

528
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.119
they're always like, go into this topic, and I'm like,

529
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.799
I'm a bigfoot show and They're like, who cares, just

530
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:20.279
do it. So I'm gonna add. So, what are your

531
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:21.680
thoughts on dog Man Tyler?

532
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.880
Oh, dog man? Dude, I don't know much about him.

533
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:31.319
I know I like the rugaroof stuff. But my thoughts, dude,

534
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:32.480
I don't think it's real.

535
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.480
I don't know. Man, it's hard enough. Yeah, it's hard enough.

536
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.480
And I don't like saying that, you know, because I'm

537
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.880
not the type of dude to discount people's stories.

538
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:42.160
You know.

539
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.440
I like to listen and respect people. But I've never

540
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.640
heard anyone tell me that they've seen a dog man either.

541
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.680
That might change my mind, because when I hear people

542
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.680
tell me about bigfoot, I can tell if they're lying

543
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:53.000
or not.

544
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:54.400
And most of the.

545
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.839
Percent of the time these people were like going through

546
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.119
and they're like retelling your traumatic event.

547
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.960
As you know, not all of them.

548
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.599
You know, it doesn't affect people the same, but you

549
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.519
can tell when someone's genuine about their experience.

550
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:10.440
So I haven't.

551
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.799
No one's ever told me that dogments were yet, and

552
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.759
I think maybe if they do, then I'd be a believer.

553
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:18.079
But dude, it's already hard.

554
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.119
Enough for me to sit here and believe in Bigfoot

555
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.079
and ghosts, which I do believe in, and then to

556
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.839
add dog Man, I'm.

557
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.519
Like, ah, I'm just waiting for Aaron D's to kick

558
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:30.160
your door down.

559
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.960
Oh no, he's gonna kill me, Dude, He's gonna kill me.

560
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:38.119
Yeah. No.

561
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:43.480
The whole dog Man thing, it's a thing where I

562
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.519
wish it wasn't real because the stories are just so

563
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.960
crazy and they're never nice. There's never any good ones

564
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.039
where it's like and then they high fived and had

565
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:59.720
a pop Minnesota and whatever. It's like, it's always terrible, dude, Yeah,

566
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.359
it is always bad news. But then I'm like, man,

567
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:05.880
they probably don't have dog Man out here in Iowa.

568
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.720
And then the next week I get an email that's like,

569
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.720
who just saw a dog Man over by Iowa City

570
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.960
And it's like, ah no, and they look like hyenas.

571
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.799
Oh crazy, dude, Yeah, do they let me ask you

572
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:20.319
a question?

573
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.000
Do dog Man? Will they walk upright.

574
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:30.359
Yeah, so uh, And again I'm not I'm not the

575
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.480
expert for sure, but a lot of the ones that

576
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.839
I've talked to people about is they are on two legs.

577
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.880
They're kind of sloped over, kind of hunched over like

578
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.200
kind of like a hyena. Looks like the if you

579
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.119
look at a hyena, like it's back and it's it's neck.

580
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.920
Do you have that like like narrow behind end right

581
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.839
kind of like any dog? An he can, but then

582
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.799
it's like more man back, like as a big back

583
00:29:57.960 --> 00:29:58.400
or something.

584
00:29:58.640 --> 00:29:59.440
Is that what they like?

585
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.000
That's from what I know. But you know, again, not

586
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.519
not the super expert, and really I never want to

587
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.960
be the expert. I know Sardes can can have that

588
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.960
forever because I don't even want it. I don't even

589
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.599
know if I want to go down to the LBL,

590
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.160
to be honest. Have you ever been in that area

591
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:18.400
at all?

592
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.160
No, dude, I want to go some bad.

593
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:26.000
I love Kentucky. That place seems rad but weird, like

594
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:26.759
super weird.

595
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:27.480
I don't know.

596
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:31.400
I was watching Eli he edited all that LBL stuff.

597
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.839
I've been watching that and that place is very strange.

598
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.039
The way the government just came in and acquired that land.

599
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.240
Let's say, do a lot in a lot of places

600
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:45.640
for public land. You know it's it's but it's just weird, dude,

601
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:46.839
it's a weird place.

602
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.680
Yeah, it's That whole story is pretty terrible. I'll tell

603
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.799
you that from what I actually from what I learned

604
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.359
from a lot of STM documentaries. There was a lot

605
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.039
of stuff I didn't know, and I was like, wow,

606
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.079
this is really not cool for the people that lived there.

607
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.359
So you've been to Kentucky. Have you ever been to

608
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.119
any weird spots in Kentucky? What's the weirdest spot you've

609
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:08.960
been to in there?

610
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:10.519
Now?

611
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.359
Now, I haven't done any I've done much investigation in Kentucky. Literally,

612
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.400
like most of my time spin in Kentucky is driving

613
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.119
through to get out west. But we were stuck in

614
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:27.599
like where were we outside of Louisville somewhere, stuck in

615
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.400
traffic for like three hours. They had a land like

616
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.680
a life flight on the on the road.

617
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.240
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

618
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.319
So we got to like hang out on the highway

619
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.640
while this helicopter team in landed, which was kind of strength.

620
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.920
But that's I just think Kentucky's beautiful.

621
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.920
It reminds me a lot of west Fordidon and a

622
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:07.359
lot of places in Virginia. So I think Kentucky's cool.

623
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.720
I'd like to get out there more. I pitched a

624
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.960
Kentucky thing. There was like some ghost stuff, like half

625
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.599
the Poys stuff that I'd like to, oh maybe get into.

626
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.960
Oh that would be cool. So did you say ghosts

627
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:20.519
of Hatfield and McCoy's.

628
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.039
Yeah, yeah, I.

629
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.160
Think that could be interesting. I like that history crossover.

630
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.240
So that's what I'm really into, what I'm really interested

631
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.920
in creating with STM.

632
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:34.319
But here's the curveball for you is do you have

633
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.480
a favorite piece of Bigfoot evidence?

634
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.559
Oh that's out there the world. Oh, i'd have to

635
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.640
probably thankfulness man, Dan, you put me on the spot.

636
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.359
Favorite piece of big Oh Patterson, gimbl an easy, that's legit.

637
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.480
That is not only is it just like a beautiful

638
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.319
piece of cinema. In my opinion, I think it just

639
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.359
looks really cool. Like let's say it's fake, it looks

640
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:05.880
super cool, and it's believable that it's like a found

641
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.240
footage style and that was in the what sixties.

642
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.240
Sixties backtober twentieth sixty seven.

643
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.599
Yeah, yeah, so think about that.

644
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.839
If it's fake, which I don't believe it is, but

645
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.319
if it's fake, it's like the earliest piece of.

646
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:26.599
Found footage movie ever, which is super cool. But it's

647
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:27.119
not fake.

648
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:31.599
It's real because that thing, well, dude, I mean you

649
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.720
can tell it's real in more ways than one.

650
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.680
So the thing I always love about it, and a

651
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.000
few people have pointed this out, but I know one

652
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:46.559
of them is Jonathan Easley, is how you can see

653
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.240
the muscles moving, Yeah, in a way that you cannot

654
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:55.880
replicate with a suit. It would be just impossible, especially

655
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:57.240
with the suits of that day.

656
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.920
You could see it's in its legs and its thighs

657
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.039
and its hind in. You can the way it the

658
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:10.039
hinded tapers looks like an animal that's consistent with living

659
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:11.639
in the woods.

660
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.440
Like how bears like hind In's look.

661
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.800
It has breasts like that's have you seen those photos

662
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.519
of its Like it has.

663
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:29.079
Breasts, dude, like the whole uh part with the breast absolutely.

664
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.079
So yeah, it's just like, would you go the extra

665
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.639
mile if you're making a suit to put it right?

666
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.320
That just doesn't make sense, right exactly.

667
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.920
That's how I feel. The conical shade the nose.

668
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.400
Even in the upscale versions you can see some of

669
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.199
that facial detail And I don't know, man, it just

670
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.280
looks really good.

671
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.960
If it's fake, those guys should.

672
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.559
Have went and pursued a special effects or whoever built

673
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.159
it should have pursued a special effects career. And if

674
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.719
they didn't, then they were doing themselves a you know,

675
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:07.079
disjustment and justice. So but man, I love the Patterson

676
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.440
give on the footage. I think it's so cool. I

677
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.199
don't know, man, I don't know what else to say

678
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.039
about it. That is definitely my favorite.

679
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:14.920
It's just cool.

680
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.039
It's a good time.

681
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:18.480
Yeah.

682
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:22.239
So you started in STM was it April of this year?

683
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.360
July of twenty twenty three, part time and then yeah,

684
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.559
full time miss April.

685
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.679
Awesome. Has there been if you can share, if you can't,

686
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.079
has there been a memory that's stuck out so far

687
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:41.639
that was like, man, that was really cool? Anything maybe

688
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:46.280
behind the scenes or just like a just a funny memory,

689
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:47.159
anything like that.

690
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:55.519
Yeah. Yeah, my first time ever being on set with

691
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.079
the steam crew. It was like most of them they

692
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:04.199
flew air and in seth was there, Courtney, Heather, Mark

693
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.920
Matsky was there, so like all the you know, traditional

694
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:11.760
steam guys, they were all there and I drove in.

695
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.199
I got off shift at worked when I was still

696
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:19.000
part time. I worked like a sixteen hour shift. I

697
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:20.840
drove all the way to Campton o High which is

698
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.280
six hours, and then I worked like twelve hours, fourteen

699
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.519
hours in the camp House theater. So I was up

700
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.119
for like, whatever you want to do, Matt, go ahead,

701
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:30.320
but forever.

702
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:35.079
And I just worked, worked with those guys, had a blast.

703
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.519
Didn't feel like I was working at all, and I

704
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.320
felt like I fit in really well with them.

705
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.760
We just had a really good time making UFOs are visited.

706
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.760
And I was like just I don't know, it was

707
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.199
cool because everything I've been working for, like working towards

708
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:52.679
my whole life with my film career came into you know,

709
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.400
fruition right then and there.

710
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.320
And that's because I bust them out. But you know,

711
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:00.840
like it was just it was just cool.

712
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:02.559
It was just a cool moment for me to be

713
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:04.519
like I kind of like made it sort of thing.

714
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.679
And that's because of like the hard work that I've.

715
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.199
Put into doing this as a side hobby for so long,

716
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.639
like literally started when I was probably twelve, you know,

717
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:16.519
thirteen years old.

718
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.519
Wow, but it's always cool, you know, And just.

719
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.159
Had a bunch of different jobs over the years, and

720
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:26.400
I'm like, I don't want to marry this career of

721
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:31.559
like being depressed all the time, you know, Like, no,

722
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.840
there's something better, man like and that's s team for me.

723
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.920
So I'm just splashed and happy. So anytime I get

724
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.840
a chance to share that like that, that seems amazing.

725
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.320
I think that's a really cool thing that we can

726
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.519
we can tell listeners is like, if you have a dream,

727
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.239
you can go towards that dream. Now, it might take

728
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.159
you five to six years or longer easily to get

729
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.119
to that dream, but if you work your tail off,

730
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.559
did you go for it? Dude? You can. You can

731
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:01.840
go for it and you can get it.

732
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.199
Yeah, so you have to work your butt off. I

733
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:04.679
mean you can't.

734
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.719
You probably, But like for me, I'm not a very

735
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:11.320
lucky guy. I'm not pretty opposite. Like bad things you

736
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.519
tend to happen around me, but I try to. I

737
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.280
try to be the guy who can fix them, you know,

738
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.159
But like I work my butt off. So that's yeah,

739
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.800
that's a good message. It is like, as long as

740
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.000
you have a good work ethic.

741
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.280
You can do cool stuff like this. It's not just

742
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:29.400
you know, like.

743
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.559
Well, how can Jeremiah Tyler can you know, just do

744
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:35.239
podcasts all day and that's their job.

745
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:36.960
It's like, man, you can do it too.

746
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.960
You really can't go yeah. And the other thing is

747
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.840
like you have to want it just because you well

748
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.159
big A big thing is like you have to be

749
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.840
wanting to help other people through it. That to me

750
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.400
has to be a huge part of it. Once I

751
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.800
figured out how what I do helps people a lot,

752
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.280
that made the difference for me and just to the side,

753
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.440
but and pretty much you have to be able to

754
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:09.000
do it. Just imagine you're in your basement just talking

755
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.639
to yourself and like no one's listening. You just have

756
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.079
to love what you're doing and it's all right. You

757
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.199
did so when you started at twelve, Like what was

758
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.199
the first camera you were were working with when you

759
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:22.599
were making stuff at that age?

760
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:24.519
Oh dude, Oh my goodness.

761
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.800
So we always had like VHS or like the little

762
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.519
compact VCR things lying around.

763
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.079
So I'm sure I make stuff on that.

764
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:35.199
There's home videos of me like go and being like

765
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.320
give me the camera when.

766
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:36.760
I'm like four.

767
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.239
You know, it's like I always was like into it,

768
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.719
but I we were We didn't grow up like with

769
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:45.320
a whole lot of money, so we played like filmmaker

770
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.880
and we'd hold like brooms as like the like the

771
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:48.960
boom mic and stuff.

772
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.280
But my passion came from watching horror.

773
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.679
Films with my me mom and my dad, my mom

774
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.119
and like being really in Halloween stuff. Also just like

775
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.599
loving Halloween a family, but watching like Army of Darkness

776
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.360
got the poster up, like you know, John Carpenter stuff, Ramiro.

777
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.440
Watching that stuff with my memo.

778
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.800
And my dad got me into where And when I

779
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:14.199
was at the right age, I said, oh man, these

780
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.039
people do this as a job like people make movies.

781
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:20.920
Then I was like, okay, okay, this is that could

782
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.360
be something I could pursue. Uh And then I just

783
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.840
got weirder into it. In high school, I started doing

784
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.920
special effects makeup because I'm like a Toom Sabini school.

785
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.239
I'll be like Tom Savini and I'm like this skinny,

786
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.679
like short kid in high school like doing insane weird makeup.

787
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.880
Dude, I've got this like chest cavity. I think that's natural.

788
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:43.400
In my It's like a this is so stupid, but

789
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.280
it's like a little like, I don't know, deformity.

790
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.639
You could call it nice effect, and man, I would

791
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:50.719
make it like I'd.

792
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.559
Put latex in it and make it look like an

793
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:56.800
alien chest burster came out and just like freaking people out.

794
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.280
But yeah, it was more like doing stuff like that

795
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:03.360
than grabbing a camera. My first camera that I ever

796
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.119
bought was a Nikon D thirty two hundred DSLR, and

797
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.320
I made some cool stuff on that, but just the

798
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.079
low light wasn't good enough. But that's how I learned

799
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:17.920
how to make beautiful composition with you know, anything, any

800
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:18.599
kind of camera.

801
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:24.920
So do you feel that your love for that early

802
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.519
love for horror is going to show itself in any

803
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.559
way when you're doing films for STM?

804
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:34.000
Oh?

805
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.199
Yeah, it already is phantom lights.

806
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:40.440
There's there's like little homages and phantom lights like some

807
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.280
of the I set up scenes like interviews, scenes like

808
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.800
like the shining stuff, like Kubrick stuff, one point perspective,

809
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.719
like I love like west Amerson's like flat stuff too,

810
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.440
and I'll like I play around with that one STM

811
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.840
stuff Like if you watch any of my stuff, you'll

812
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:02.039
probably you'll probably jump out pretty early that this dude

813
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.760
likes seventies four films and Jallo horror and Italian horror,

814
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.960
what old westerns and like you'll see it. I like

815
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:16.239
wide landscapes and yeah, so it definitely transcends. Hopefully it

816
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.280
can transcend into like a screenplay. You know, maybe that's

817
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.400
my that's my end goal. But right now, I love

818
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.119
what we're doing. I don't care that. I don't care

819
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.280
what it is. As long as I'm making movies, I'm happy.

820
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.119
That's awesome. So every how, let's say, is Halloween every Halloween?

821
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.239
Is there a movie that you pop in every Halloween?

822
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.079
You gotta watch it every year?

823
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:41.920
Oh dude, it's probably on my floor. I just we

824
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.679
just moved in, so I got all my whole collections,

825
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.639
like on the floor right now. But Phantasm, dude, Phantasm

826
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:54.760
nineteen seventy eight, seventy seven, Don cost Growley, that's the one.

827
00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:00.239
Another Halloween go to, dude, there's a million, like definitely

828
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:01.519
John Harper's Halloween.

829
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.519
Of course you have to watch that. But like, oh

830
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:09.119
man returnal let me dead. Oh, there's all kinds of

831
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:09.599
good stuff.

832
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:14.599
Hocus Pocus, Oh, hocus pocus, dude, you're getting in, You're

833
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.760
you want to talk Halloween movies. Oh ed Wood, Tim

834
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.920
Burtons ed Wood. That gives me, that's fool Halloween movie.

835
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:22.639
I don't know.

836
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.800
I like weird stuff too, so that's awesome. Uh, but seriously,

837
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.639
hocus Pocus is about the most I can handle. But

838
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.360
maybe maybe I will take the titles you said, maybe

839
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.159
I'll I'll jump into something else.

840
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.079
Don't watch the new hocus Pocus.

841
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.199
Dude, No, I heard it was It was terrible. We

842
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.599
just we just lost Disney as a sponsor. Guys, just kidding.

843
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.400
They're not a sponsor. You're down in Appalachia. Yeah, so

844
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.719
let's think. Let's think about this, and half the comments

845
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:56.119
is going to be mad. I said it that way.

846
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.039
You can say it one or two days, so we're

847
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:58.519
gonna say that.

848
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.920
There's three sayings of apparently. Yeah.

849
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.679
Someone calls it apple dude. I heard it the other

850
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.320
day for the first time, and it's like some Pennsylvania people.

851
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:11.639
It was like, so there's Appalachia, Appalachia, which is what

852
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:15.039
I say, And then there was dude, I don't even remember,

853
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:18.199
but it's weird. It's so weird the way they said it,

854
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.599
apple Leasia, apple laka.

855
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:22.760
It was crazy.

856
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:23.320
Wow.

857
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.119
Yeah, there's three, dude, We're gonna make someone mad.

858
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.360
Regardless, It's gonna be great for engagement in the comments

859
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:36.599
for sure. So thinking of growing up down there, what

860
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.800
is the weirdest legend that you remember when you're growing

861
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:44.760
up and you're learning about that whole area. What's the

862
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.840
weirdest legend that you can think of down there?

863
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:49.320
All right, So.

864
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.880
I'm gonna do the two parter I like to. Uh So,

865
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.280
I'm from I was born in back little western Jai

866
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.679
Mothman for that region, of course, Like everyone knows about

867
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:10.800
month Man, right, I mean, Mothman's worldwide now, but of

868
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.159
course you know, being from West Virginia, like that's your dude,

869
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:17.519
Like from everyone knows Mothman. But being front, but growing

870
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.679
up in the Shando Valley in Virginia, we have a

871
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.880
local legend that is not many people know about.

872
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:28.280
And there's this old mausoleum out on the west side of.

873
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.679
The river here in the Shando River, and it's those

874
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.480
are the boonies man the Page County.

875
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.920
Those are the boonies. You go down this road called Page.

876
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.840
Valley Road, and there's mausoleum that sits in the woods,

877
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:44.039
abandoned and it's an old a frame cedar cedar log mausoleum,

878
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.199
and it's dilapidating now and there's a lot of graffiti.

879
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.239
But it was built in the.

880
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:54.639
Forties, nineteen forties, nineteen fifties by a guy named Bourbon Westernberger.

881
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:56.800
Big for a society. WO will be right back after

882
00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:57.639
these messages.

883
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:14.559
He was from Germany.

884
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.000
He luckily got out of Germany as a young man

885
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:21.360
pre World War two and went to school here in Virginia.

886
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.599
So right here in Virginia, Virginia, he got a plot

887
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.480
of land, he built a home, and then he shipped

888
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.679
his parents over that they were ceased in these coffins

889
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.159
from Germany, and then built them a mausoleum. And it

890
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:38.119
took him years to finish the mausoleum. So they sat

891
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.960
in his house. That kind of became a legend for

892
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.199
that time for those that boomer generation. People go to

893
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.199
his house look through windows, you know.

894
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:48.519
Anyway.

895
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:54.000
So but in the nineties, those his parents' bodies and

896
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.199
their tomb was desecrated and.

897
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:58.920
Uh dug up and thrown out.

898
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.199
In the woods of the natural wars out there. And

899
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:06.360
that's all coroborated by the law enforcement officers that work

900
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.280
that case and then the corner who's still alive.

901
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.320
Well, I do work for the funeral all the time.

902
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.320
It seems like, oh, really weird.

903
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.239
Yeah, dude, like I've live stream it's not funny, but

904
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.400
it is kind of funny, like live stream funerals. I

905
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.719
like help them install their like live stream equipment now

906
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.480
and then I've just like done dry walling for this

907
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:30.159
is weird stuff.

908
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.920
So but anyway, that Big Dow is the guy's name.

909
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.000
There's like three downs, big big Dow, Big Dal, little

910
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.639
Down and big big Dal still.

911
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.960
Alive and get it, like goat pick that pick their

912
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.320
bodies up. So it's just a weird.

913
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.639
But it's like a it's like a lover's lane slash,

914
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.000
like let's go scare the girls in high school legend and.

915
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:51.960
And that's it. That's it.

916
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.639
Boom. That's very interesting. Not a big fan of the

917
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:59.440
whole throwing the bodies out in the woods or like

918
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:05.800
that's it's not a cool move. Don't do that, guys, crazy. Yeah,

919
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.000
do you think do you think feral people are a

920
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.400
real deal? So that's something you run run into.

921
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.119
I don't think they are just and I can explain

922
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:18.079
that or.

923
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:22.000
Thoroughly I think I think there's very poor people, and

924
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.599
I think there's very culturally.

925
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.039
Connected people. That's why am I saying it like that.

926
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.559
There are people that live in the hollers Bapalachia that

927
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:40.519
are very poor and they might have had some issues genetically.

928
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.360
Or just you know, birth effects that make them a

929
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:43.920
certain way.

930
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:46.360
I know a lot of these people have had to

931
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:47.800
work cases with these people.

932
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:49.280
I've worked calls with these people.

933
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.119
I have some of these people as my family, and

934
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.079
I think those are the people that get miss interpreted

935
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:01.000
as feral people. I think there's a lot of crazy

936
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:06.639
drug addicts in Appalachia as well who this intributed to

937
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.760
as faroh people as well. That's just kind of my

938
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.639
opinion on it, just because I'm from Appalachia. Like, we

939
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.920
had these two dudes that hang out they're called the

940
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.079
ah Shoot the Harlow Brothers, and they literally hang out

941
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.719
on the side too eleven and they will jump in

942
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.639
front of your car for no reason, like that's their

943
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.239
goal is to just like jump.

944
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.639
And run out in front of your car and we

945
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:30.920
go in Harlow get off the meta. You like have

946
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.239
to shoot them off the road. I've searched them for

947
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.559
you find rotten bananas. Like, it's just.

948
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.000
Strange stuff that if you're from not from here, and

949
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:44.000
you drive down to eleven US Highway to eleven and

950
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.400
you see the Harlow Brothers trying to jump out in

951
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.840
front of your car try to get in your car,

952
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.599
you might think they're federal people because they do look

953
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.079
like that. They do, but they're just these dudes that

954
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.480
are like, they have mental illness problems, they're poor. I've

955
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.679
actually heard stories that they have some mon but that's

956
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.079
another local lesson.

957
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.840
The comments they're gonna be blowing up now.

958
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.719
Yeah, yeah, but that's that's what I think of that.

959
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.000
That's how I perceive that.

960
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.280
I think they've been I think that story has been

961
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.519
perpetuated into something else. That's just my opinion on But

962
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.360
and man, if there are real feral people, I'm I'm interested.

963
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.679
Yeah, no, absolutely, Man, what a documentary that would be.

964
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.559
But so you're saying that this is current day. If

965
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.840
I drive down this road, these dudes dude like totally

966
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.519
jump out and trying to.

967
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.440
Mess My first time my girlfriend saw them last year,

968
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:41.920
like last summer, and she was driving and I was like,

969
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.159
oh no, and I said, hey, just you need to

970
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.039
go like far around these dudes and like keep driving

971
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.000
and she was like what what. I was like, I'm

972
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.400
not trying to freak you out, just like don't pay

973
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.760
them any attention. And then of course I hear they

974
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:56.719
call them dude. They're like running out on the road.

975
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.159
But yeah, it's modern man, like exist. There's a lot

976
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:03.039
of those kind of people around here, you know, and

977
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.519
it's sad, it's really unfortunate to see. But you know

978
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.960
they're also like, don't do that, don't try to like

979
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:13.079
get in someone's car, you know, But yeah, they exist, dude.

980
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:14.199
That kind of stuff exists.

981
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:21.760
Mm hmm. Do you let me let me put this

982
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:28.920
in your ear? Do you think there's any chance STM

983
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:31.639
might do a big foot thing in Southeast Oklahoma?

984
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:33.239
Southeast O.

985
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:36.920
Wink wink maybe?

986
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.800
I don't know what. Actually I'm not sure what the

987
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.320
wink is. I don't know. I'm out of the loop

988
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:42.559
on that.

989
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.880
No, I'm just if there's you want to set is like, hey,

990
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.719
any ideas for bigfoot documentaries? Yeah, actually Southeast.

991
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.079
Dude, I've heard some cool stuff come out of there.

992
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:57.239
Man.

993
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.079
Then they are like a sight down there that's like

994
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:00.440
supposed to have a bunch.

995
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.280
Activity Yeah, Area X and all that jazz and Adam

996
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.679
and Seth went down there and back in the day

997
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.880
and crazy stuff happened. Yeah, wow, you should You should

998
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.719
talk to him about its uh some pretty cool stories.

999
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.559
So yeah, man, I'll have to I need to do

1000
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.880
a little more research on Area X, but I have

1001
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.719
heard stuff come out of there, and it seems like

1002
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.719
it's a pretty big hotspot. And you wouldn't necessarily think

1003
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.079
of homeless a state for that, but it has a

1004
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.679
lot of uh, it has a lot of like Eastern

1005
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:38.639
Texas vibes to it, which is a whole bunch of trees.

1006
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:44.559
Absolutely makes sense. It has been a fun time chatting

1007
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:47.679
with you tonight about Bigfoot and dog Man all sorts

1008
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.840
of weird stuff and vintage horror. Didn't know we were

1009
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.719
going there, but we went there. It is pretty cool.

1010
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:54.039
Yeah.

1011
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.800
What are some ways that people can reach out to you?

1012
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.960
And if people have cool cool stuff for you to

1013
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:06.039
look up regarding Bigfoot in that area of Virginia, how

1014
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.000
can they contact you?

1015
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:09.199
Please? Yeah?

1016
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.280
T Hall at small town Monsters dot com. That's my email,

1017
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.039
super easy to send me that T Hall at small

1018
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.199
Timemonsers dot com or just hit me up on Instagram.

1019
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:24.159
Tyler all film but yeah, DM me whatever, we'll talk

1020
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:24.840
weird stuff.

1021
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.639
Awesome, very cool. Thanks for coming on, Tyler, and I

1022
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.599
hope our paths cross again in the future.

1023
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:33.400
Oh, Jeremiah was great. Thanks for having me, ma'am.

1024
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.320
Please take a minute to help out the show by

1025
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.960
subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so

1026
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.519
you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on

1027
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.559
YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us

1028
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:49.800
on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that

1029
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:54.079
you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

1030
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.280
all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

1031
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.239
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

1032
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.480
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1033
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.960
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1034
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:11.639
Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

1035
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.199
which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

1036
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.239
please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use

1037
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.039
email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A special thank

1038
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:25.320
you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members.

1039
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:28.199
It's your support that helps keep the show going and

1040
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.760
I extremely appreciate it. If you want to join in

1041
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.000
the fun. You can join over at patreon dot com

1042
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.199
Forward Slash the big Foot Society. I'll see you there

1043
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:41.119
and again, thanks for listening.

1044
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:29.360
Her and I can get on here.

1045
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.079
We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out

1046
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:33.039
there listening.

1047
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:34.880
That's too afraid to tell their story.

1048
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:37.960
Maybe this will give them the courage to come out.

1049
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:39.719
And I feel so bad about it.

1050
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.719
Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw,

1051
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.079
I know what's out there. That's all I care about it.

1052
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:06.119
Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've

1053
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.039
ever seen one of these things, you need to tell

1054
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.519
because if you don't, then shame on you. You have,

1055
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:59.639
shame on you. M