The Shenandoah Sasquatch with Tyler Hall from STM

0:00 Welcome to big for Society. If you have bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with the show, all right, Pickfoot Society. We got the privilege of talking to Tyler Hall. Tyler Hall is a writer and director with Small Town Monsters. Of course, if you're listening to this show, you're probably aware of who small Town Monsters is really. There'd be no Bigfoot Society without them.

0:54 They were a big inspiration and motivation for me to start this show. So Tyler, it's great talking Tia. I met you at Monsterfest two this year and we got to hang out a little bit. But how's it going, man? Yeah, man, go good, good to see you. Thanks for having me on the show. And we did, we did. We got to hang out at Monster Monster Frest. I don't know if you know about the Do you know about the TYPEO? Yeah? Do I have it on my wristband? That dude, I didn't get a risk band. But that's okay. Yeah. In your own words, what have you been doing for STM? What have you been involved with all that good stuff? Bantom Lights, Man, Phantom Lights. I just wrapped on it back in April. It just got cut. So now it's getting shipped off to wherever it's going to be at, probably Amazon at some point, but premieres at the Eerie Horror Film Festival in Erie, Pennsylvania on October fourth. So that's my latest project. I'm working on a series right now called Shindo Sasquatch that takes place in Virginia, right here in Shindo Valley, which is my my bread and butter at my backyards home I grew up here. And it actually premieres sometime like right now, is on Small Town Monsters.

2:13 So the first episode dropped like soon, very soon, sometime that night. Is it really tonight all right, Yeah, yeah, down, we're trying. We're trying to get it up. Yeah, we're trying to get it up. Something happened with the you know how like when YouTube when the videos asked like process and they check for something's going on right now with this set. Just message me. I'm like, I'm doing a podcast, brother, I don't know. I don't know what to do. I've been battling it all day. Dude, you know what it is. Demand doesn't want the bigfoot stuff out there. I'm not even kidding, dude. I've heard it. Dude, I've heard all those conspiracies. I'll tell you. I'll tell you this much. There are so many podcasts, So regular podcast I record phone calls.

2:56 There are so many interviews when you start to get into like the deep stuff where it's like yeah, click and you're like, hmm, that's so weird that the phone calls keep shutting down all the time. Maybe my cellular is just not good. But tell me about phantom lights. So I think I know what those are. I'm more of a bigfoot guy, but kind of tell me and my listeners, like, what's the deal with the phantom lights? Yeah, so phantom lights are you could call them just orbs. That's a better, more simple term for them. Phantom lights, orb lights. They have an entire pluck. Wrote different names and you hear me talk about that there. They transcend, just like a lot of phenomenon that transcends culture and ethnicity, and you hear about them all over the world. Fairy lights, you know, just different names. So Phantom Lights the film.

3:51 It's a feature length movie and it takes place in the Chestnut Ridge. And Ron Murphy who wrote Lights in the Midst and a whole bunch of different other books, One Phenomena in the Chestnut Ridge and other places, he is featured heavily in the film and he helped me. He helped me make that movie possible. Man. Without Ron Murphy and Heather Mojer like really being the backbone of the research, that movie wouldn't have happened. But yeah, that's Phantom Lights. And I go. Into a lot of civil or a lot of nuts of war, a lot of coal history, a lot of coal and steel industry oppression history. Uh, because that's that's like my background. Man.

4:33 You know, I've got family members who were coal miners and they fought in Redneck. You know cold Wars back in the day in West Virginia, so I wanted to I wanted to really highlight that part of the Chestnut Ridges. Histories that other union and labor movements. Wow, I didn't know there are so red neck cole Wars where I didn't. Oh dude, I grew up in Massachusetts, so we did not have redneck cole Wars in our in our history. I was actually in southern Vermont, so it is more Ethan and all that stuff. There's a movie called Mate Wand and it's about cole Wars in West Virginia and. Dude, move yet. It's got James Earl Jens in it. He tries to join the union. People were like, I can't join union.

5:14 This one guy stands up for and he's like, he's union man, he's our man. And it's cool. Dude, gives me gooseboks right now talking about it. I love it. I made That's where the term, that's where the term redneck came from. Man ach dudes are wearing red bandanas and those were the coal Union strikers. All right, Cool dude, that's great. Cool. Uh shannandoah sasquatch I have I have been waiting for this one. I've had a few interviews from Virginia to find to me, is Shannandoah Does that apply to the whole state or is it a certain part of the state that we're talking about. Yeah, so Shando Valley applies to like roughly one hundred and twenty so miles early on the state of Virginia.

6:02 So it runs, you know, north to. South, south of south and north however you want to look at it, and then east west. It's about from the eastern side over in like Charlottesville area into like a couple of counties in West Virginia. That's about how wide it is. So I don't know, give or take another ninety miles or something. So it's a very condensed you know, it's like a colloquialism you could call it. And it's just another part of the Appalachia Mountains. Inside the Shandow Valley you have the Mass and Nutte Mountain Range and the Sandoah Mountain Range. That's just kind of what we've nicknamed those mountains. They make up the Blue Ridge Mountains. The Blue Ridge Mountains make up the Appalachia Mountains.

6:43 So it's just kind of just a valley within the northeastern part of or northwestern part of Virginia. Interesting, was this a project that you'd come into STM and you're like, I want to make this or how did this all kind of come about for you? Yeah? So originally I came up with a couple of different pitches of what I wanted to do, and Mermaids was one of them. Like, I had all these wild ideas and Seth's like looking at all of them, and Shandoah was on the list and he's like, how about you do that as your first series? And I'm like that's perfect, man, It's right here in the backyard. So but I didn't have any contacts with this, so we kind of saddle on it for a while until it was like the right time, and then out of nowhere, Amy but gave me a contact and that was Charles Kimbro.

7:35 So yeah, I interviewed Amy and she was like, I know a guy who lives in the Shando Valley where you're from. She's like, here's his number. So I was like, oh tight. And then I sat on that and I'm like, dude, I have a contact now for this Shenandoah thing that I want to do, and so I reached out to Charles. We got Krispy Krean and. We talked about big food and life and stuff and his sons in the Navy and he's servant right now overseas. We talked about that and he's just cold, and I was like, man, this is gonna be a good fit. And then come to find out he's a BFRO researcher and I'm like, dude, what that's crazy. So yeah, that's how it kind of came into fruition. And then this is a I don't know if she should I just dropped something right now.

8:16 I mean, it's if Seth is cool with it, why not? Well, so I think the first episode will be out by the time this launches, so I think it's definitely cool. Okay, I don't know. So Monoga Hala Bigfoot Bioacoustic, that name is definitely you know you've heard of it if you're really into this bigfoot stuff. Uh. That guy is actually in the series as himself and his name is Devin Counts. So yeah, so he actually. Like now, dude, dude, he like wanted to come forward and like share everything about his life pretty much.

8:56 I shouldn't say it like that. It just kind of happened naturally. He's like, yeah, I'll be in it. And and I didn't know really the whole war. I didn't know what I had when I when I shot like the first weekend with those guys, and then over the couple of days that I was with these dudes, I was like, Oh, crap, this. Is a big deal because I'm a new dude. I'm a movie kid, you know, Like I didn't grow up so much with I don't know if it's a mix, right, So I grew up watching this stuff on TV, but like, I don't know, was it super into it like some people are. So I didn't know monog ala. I didn't know what I had. And then but I figured it out and I applied that to the to the show, and I hope I hope people see that.

9:38 I hope people know that. I'm trying to be like, I don't know what was a good word for that, Like, I have something that's pretty valuable to give to the world, and I just want to do that justice. And I want to do that justice for Devin as well, because it's a pretty big deal. He works in the defense contracting world, and you know to come out and say, like you, this is what I do all the time. It's a big deal. So well to respect that man ten times more excited I was excited before, Like this is a huge deal. Like I I would have never guessed that, you know, that would not have been on my Bengo card, that that individual would be like, yes, this is me, this is everything, and it's gonna be yeah, it's going to be on stm uh present at the same time it happened.

10:30 It happened so like naturally was really weird, man, because I, like I. Said, I didn't I didn't really know who he was. To be honest, I heard the name a few times people like interviewing people and stuff, and I'm like, oh, that's cool. I mysterious guy who was by uh minigna Hala, which is you know, which is West Virginia like region. I'm like, man, that's cool. But then then I'm working with them, and you know, it's cool, man, I don't know, It's where life works. You know. It was better that way though, that I wasn't like a fanboy or something, you know. I think it was. I actually think it was because there is something to be said for just being a just just be cool and hang out with people. And you know, I had to learn that heart the hard way in Chicago Hair a long time ago with Mike Ditka and it did not go well. And so I was like, just be cool with people. You know, like everyone's just a person, so they just want to be And especially if you see Mike Ditka, give him some space.

11:40 He just wants to play video games. He's a great guy. I want to hear this story now, dude. I'll tell you now. So remember that. Remember the movie Kicking and Screaming with Will Ferrell. Okay, so I'm not a football guy, but I knew Kicking and Screaming with Will Ferrell and he's in it, right, And so I was like, I was, I was freaking out because he was in the movie kicking and Screaming and he was like just sitting there in the airport playing like this old eighties handheld game. Dude, Mike Ditka from Kicking and Screaming and he was the dude, I'm playing poker or whatever he was playing. And it did not go as as amazing as I thought.

12:23 But but he was an NFL player though, right, like like big. Coach I think coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he's like speaking, screaming, yeah. Right, yeah, dang dude, it's because it's because it was the movie reference. He didn't like some movie. Reference absolutely Shenandoa Sasquatch. So I don't know if he can give us this much. So are you actually going out and uh, is it a thing where you're you're going out looking for stuff or you're more maybe interviewing people that are involved with that part of the country in Bigfoot or maybe a little little bit of a surprise.

13:05 Both. It's both. It's heavy in field research and it's heavy in interviews. So each this first one was very interview heavy, just because I introduced these guys and wanted to give them their time, you know, so they could tell the audience who they are and how they go about research. Before we just jumped right into field research. But now we've got a little plot of land. Well it's not little, but it's like two hundred acres out in the western side of the Shando Valley here across Shando Mountain. And yeah, we've been hunkering down there and I'm just getting at it over there and doing research with those guys.

13:47 So it's cool. I'm learning a lot about bigfooting. I enjoyed a lot more than I thought I was because it's just like it's just really camping and just hanging out with the boys. And that's what I really love about it because I'm an outdoor STO. I was a you know, part service law enforcement ranger for four years, and before that worked on trow Crew did wildfire. Like my whole life spin outside, so it's natural and I'm like big footing fits into that so perfect. It's just hanging out and then going to look for this thing that and what what better is that? Dude, Like there's a creature that lives out there. Even cooler, you can get weird, Tyler, I'll tell you that. I'll tell you this, much like I went out to Oregon.

14:28 And when you get deep and it changes, you like it, Eventually you will if you keep doing this and you like keep I don't well, I don't know. Maybe with STM it's different, but if you like really get into it and you start getting out there, there'll be up There'll be a point where like something will happen and you're like, oh my goodness, what's that? WHOA did you get a scrape on your arm. Whoa, Yeah, something did happen, dude, that. Like arterial eat that? Whoa, So I know what you're talking about. That was out in Mount Saint Helen's. Oh oh right when you when you went out because you had something going on out there, right, which yeah, very much about but no.

15:14 We can't talk about that at all. But yeah, so it is weird, dude. I'm with you. I think that was one of our first conversations when when you said you've had weird stuff happened. I'm like yeah, and I'm like you have too, and you're like yeah, and I'm like, oh, dude, yeah, we know, we know it's up. It was so this is before I went out to Oregon, but I don't know, dude. So like sometimes and not to get too weird, but like sometimes I'm like talking to a person or hanging out with some person and I'll be like, dude, this person has been through some weird stuff. Like you can tell. And I don't know if that's weird to me to say, but like, yeah, I could. I you you have an interesting history. I kind of can tell, Tyler, you've been through some interesting stuff.

15:59 And I don't know exactly what it is, but you probably have had some some weird stuff happening in your past. Big for society will be right back after these messages. I really think so insane stuff. Oh yeah, we have a we'll share it over beer one day. All right, fair enough, but uh, dude, no, I'm. With you though, Like I can you know you can you can sense people. That's not that's not like too out of that work out of the world anyway.

16:40 You know. It's like people we have that sixth sense in us. I think some people do. I think, so that's too weird to say, like you can definitely send people and hell, you know what their vibe is. So Tyler, what do you think a bigfoot is? Do you have any any thoughts as to what we're dealing with when we kind of go down the rabbit hole which is bigfoot? Yeah? I think my first impression of bigfoot growing up was that it was one singular bigfoot, you know, growing up, I was like, it's like a Santa Claus thing, you know.

17:22 Was it Rick Dyer his Bigfoot suit? I remember watching one on a Fox News Dude when I was like I was little dude, I was probably like ten I was a little kid and I was sitting in front of TV and I'm like, god him, and I thought it was like like Santa Claus's next, dude, Like they're gonna get Santa Claus that kind of thing. And then growing up, I'm like, no way, there's there's probably more of them. And then I was like, it's an animal. Then I started getting so I got into conservation just naturally through my career, and I'm like, dude, this thing could exist, and if it does exist, then that means that we need to think a lot about how we interact with it and what are the you know, necessary steps to try to protect this creature. I mean, it probably doesn't need much more protection. We did probably leave it alone, but like, how can that transcend into conservation?

18:12 So I think Bigfoot's flesh and blood? You know, I know it's a lame answer, but I do. I think. I think Sasquatch is Lutch blood. But there are weird things, dude, there's weird stuff with them. I'm not going to deny that. You know, no, it's weird. I agree because my answer, if you ask me the same question is pretty similar, And I always say people think it's probably a cop out, but whatever. Mine is that it's a flesh and blood creature, but it can do stuff that science is just like we have no idea what's going on, Like we haven't discovered that. So I think you can do some some weird stuff. I'm sure you've you've probably gotten into that. You've heard the stories, and man, it's the deeper you go and the more you interview people, the weirder weirder stuff can get.

19:00 And is compelling, dude, and that's that exists. That's a real thing. So what you know, maybe they can do it. Too, But I would say absolutely. I mean, I mean speaking at Amy Boo, I was talking to her the other day and she was sharing with me how she and some fellow researchers were out I believe in Pennsylvania and they all were having heart palpitation issues. And I've experienced that myself in an area in Iowa when me and my son were out doing a big Foot weekend and it's very scary, and it blew my mind when I heard Amy talking about, like, oh, it's happened to other people. Wasn't just a it wasn't just a me thing.

19:49 So I think that Bigfoot can do some absolutely weird stuff as well. What do you think the closest you've ever come to one or or have you had any interesting experiences for sure? Which is even stranger because, like I said, I don't really get into this stuff, but it's like my whole life now and I've had experiences. Maybe I'm like, maybe I just don't want to know, you know, I don't know, but yes, So to answer your question, Glenn Jane, West, Virginia, my aunt owns a ranch down there and it orders the Boy Scout Territory, which is like twenty some thousand acres of just forced to land and then on top of the mountain there or on the plateau is there Boy Scout like barracks and chow hall and stuff like that.

20:40 They got a bunch of man made lakes up there, and it sits empty most of the year until the summer when they had like big Boy Scout Jamboree. But anyway, so she borders that park and then. Around all that is the New River Gorge National Park, and you know, we've got all that while you know wildlife area right there. So we go out there and it started kind of like just having fun in high school with her, you know, watching all the bigfoot stuff on TV, and so we just kind of go out on us around until it got real. We heard like. This roar or how one night when I was younger, about fifteen sixteen, and it was so guttural and you could almost feel it, but you could tell it was far away, like it was you could tell us miles away in the Holland. And that's when I was like, what was that? All your hair stands up on your neck and it's crazy. So after that, we would do that every summer, and pretty much every time get a response.

21:45 Anytime I'd go to my aunts, we'd go out and she'd do big foot calls and I'd sit there with her and something. Most of the time we'd get a response, but the to answer your answer your question. I know, I'm a rambo. This was like June of this year. I want to say June. I could probably date it. I think I have some video of it. My cousin and I were out on that same property. My aunt was doing calls back in the house. We walked down into the woods and dude, it was just a fresh storm that came through, so like there were monster trees everywhere, a bunch of big, fresh, deadened downs. So it was like it's I mean it's already a jungle pretty much, but I mean now it's like super dense. I'm talking trees over top of your head and just super gnarly. And this is probably about midnight, and she's doing house, doing house, doing house. We're not hearing nothing, and we're deep in there, and all of a sudden, dude, we hear this tree crash.

22:42 So it was like, what was that? And then so the movement and then movement that felt like it three sixtied us and it felt like more than one. So and like bi peele man, it wasn't like and like there was like birds like freaking out and flying up out when this started happening. So it'd like a flock of birds just like or like a grouse or something just leave its nest or whatever. And then. By people kind of walking, and then it felt like it got closer. My cousin saw a figure, which like freaked him out. He wanted to get out of there. I've got all this on audio because the video is kind of crap. It's like super dark, but we recorded most of been an audio and he's freaking out. I'm like, ah, dude, I want to like like, let's let's wake this out.

23:28 And then I see this, dude, it's great. This sounds crazy. I see this like giant ball, like on the ground, dude. And there were lightning bugs going on, dude, like all night. And I grew up in the South, dude, like I know what lighting bugs are. And this was like the size of a basketball or bigger or a little bit bigger. And it was just white light white, like whitish blue light like almost like kind of see that, yeah, like that, and it just illuminated and it was close to ground, illuminated so much illuminated this big fern and I was like whoa.

24:11 And then my cousin Cole, he was like, dude, I just saw that too. And I was like, what did you see And he's like I saw this light It was like lightning on the ground. And I was like, yeah, dude, I just saw that too. And then I was like, dude, we have to stick this out. And so it got more intense, more intense, more intense, and I could hear, dude, this sounds nuts. I could like hear something breathing and I felt like, this is just my opinion. I felt like we were like ten yards from something. What it was, I am no, I'm not going to say it was Bigfoot. I'm not going to see him. Be like, dude, we were close. We were that close to Bigfoot. But if I that's the closest I've ever been to something like that. So it was crazy.

24:51 So you had you saw a large ball of light and at the same time you could hear something breathing as well. Yeah, and yes, but we also what accompanied all of that too, was like this dead like like the smell of a dead person pretty much, but like a little more musky. The whole the whole time this was happening, it was like this nasty like dead smell. But yeah, dude, the breathing stuff, the bipedal walking around us, the ball that illuminated a fern, and then that smell, and then I'm like sitting there, dude, like staring out into the woods, and I'm like, I'm about to see one. I really thought I was about see one, and then I can't remember.

25:43 I had to re review the audio again, but I think, a, yeah, a big giant. Crash happens, and we did we're like, we're done. It was like super loud, and it was way back where my aunt was across from the like across their fence line on another side of the property. So like a like a tree crash or something crashing through the. Woods, probably like a tree fell. You know. I think it was just bad. It was not a good time to be in the woods in general, because that storm just came. There was a monster storm and it was putting down big trees, and uh so it's not not a good not a good time to be in there. But dude, who knows. Man like the tree crashing. Stuff too, can be Bigfoot or could just be the storm that just came through.

26:27 I bet you it was not her first rodeo going through weird stuff like that, though. Sounds like she's pretty aware of what's going on out there. Oh yeah, yeah she is. She loves that stuff. She'd be a great guest. Dude, she's crazy. I'm maybe saying now pass on my info if you want, but. Yeah, I got you. She'd love to do. She's funny. She does a fundraiser for suicide awareness and West Virginia Colt Willing for Hope too, And she's a cool person. Man. Oh that's awesome. Yeah, that is that is very cool. I love stuff like that where you're raising awareness for that. That kind of stuff is extremely extremely important. My listeners, they're always like, go into this topic, and I'm like, I'm a bigfoot show and They're like, who cares, just do it. So I'm gonna add. So, what are your thoughts on dog Man Tyler?

27:22 Oh, dog man? Dude, I don't know much about him. I know I like the rugaroof stuff. But my thoughts, dude, I don't think it's real. I don't know. Man, it's hard enough. Yeah, it's hard enough. And I don't like saying that, you know, because I'm not the type of dude to discount people's stories. You know. I like to listen and respect people. But I've never heard anyone tell me that they've seen a dog man either. That might change my mind, because when I hear people tell me about bigfoot, I can tell if they're lying or not. And most of the. Percent of the time these people were like going through and they're like retelling your traumatic event. As you know, not all of them.

28:04 You know, it doesn't affect people the same, but you can tell when someone's genuine about their experience. So I haven't. No one's ever told me that dogments were yet, and I think maybe if they do, then I'd be a believer. But dude, it's already hard. Enough for me to sit here and believe in Bigfoot and ghosts, which I do believe in, and then to add dog Man, I'm. Like, ah, I'm just waiting for Aaron D's to kick your door down. Oh no, he's gonna kill me, Dude, He's gonna kill me. Yeah. No. The whole dog Man thing, it's a thing where I wish it wasn't real because the stories are just so crazy and they're never nice. There's never any good ones where it's like and then they high fived and had a pop Minnesota and whatever. It's like, it's always terrible, dude, Yeah, it is always bad news. But then I'm like, man, they probably don't have dog Man out here in Iowa.

29:06 And then the next week I get an email that's like, who just saw a dog Man over by Iowa City And it's like, ah no, and they look like hyenas. Oh crazy, dude, Yeah, do they let me ask you a question? Do dog Man? Will they walk upright. Yeah, so uh, And again I'm not I'm not the expert for sure, but a lot of the ones that I've talked to people about is they are on two legs. They're kind of sloped over, kind of hunched over like kind of like a hyena. Looks like the if you look at a hyena, like it's back and it's it's neck.

29:48 Do you have that like like narrow behind end right kind of like any dog? An he can, but then it's like more man back, like as a big back or something. Is that what they like? That's from what I know. But you know, again, not not the super expert, and really I never want to be the expert. I know Sardes can can have that forever because I don't even want it. I don't even know if I want to go down to the LBL, to be honest. Have you ever been in that area at all? No, dude, I want to go some bad. I love Kentucky. That place seems rad but weird, like super weird. I don't know. I was watching Eli he edited all that LBL stuff.

30:31 I've been watching that and that place is very strange. The way the government just came in and acquired that land. Let's say, do a lot in a lot of places for public land. You know it's it's but it's just weird, dude, it's a weird place. Yeah, it's That whole story is pretty terrible. I'll tell you that from what I actually from what I learned from a lot of STM documentaries. There was a lot of stuff I didn't know, and I was like, wow, this is really not cool for the people that lived there. So you've been to Kentucky. Have you ever been to any weird spots in Kentucky? What's the weirdest spot you've been to in there? Now? Now, I haven't done any I've done much investigation in Kentucky. Literally, like most of my time spin in Kentucky is driving through to get out west. But we were stuck in like where were we outside of Louisville somewhere, stuck in traffic for like three hours. They had a land like a life flight on the on the road.

31:35 Big for Society will be right back after these messages. So we got to like hang out on the highway while this helicopter team in landed, which was kind of strength. But that's I just think Kentucky's beautiful. It reminds me a lot of west Fordidon and a lot of places in Virginia. So I think Kentucky's cool. I'd like to get out there more. I pitched a Kentucky thing. There was like some ghost stuff, like half the Poys stuff that I'd like to, oh maybe get into.

32:17 Oh that would be cool. So did you say ghosts of Hatfield and McCoy's. Yeah, yeah, I. Think that could be interesting. I like that history crossover. So that's what I'm really into, what I'm really interested in creating with STM. But here's the curveball for you is do you have a favorite piece of Bigfoot evidence? Oh that's out there the world. Oh, i'd have to probably thankfulness man, Dan, you put me on the spot. Favorite piece of big Oh Patterson, gimbl an easy, that's legit. That is not only is it just like a beautiful piece of cinema. In my opinion, I think it just looks really cool. Like let's say it's fake, it looks super cool, and it's believable that it's like a found footage style and that was in the what sixties.

33:09 Sixties backtober twentieth sixty seven. Yeah, yeah, so think about that. If it's fake, which I don't believe it is, but if it's fake, it's like the earliest piece of. Found footage movie ever, which is super cool. But it's not fake. It's real because that thing, well, dude, I mean you can tell it's real in more ways than one. So the thing I always love about it, and a few people have pointed this out, but I know one of them is Jonathan Easley, is how you can see the muscles moving, Yeah, in a way that you cannot replicate with a suit. It would be just impossible, especially with the suits of that day.

33:58 You could see it's in its legs and its thighs and its hind in. You can the way it the hinded tapers looks like an animal that's consistent with living in the woods. Like how bears like hind In's look. It has breasts like that's have you seen those photos of its Like it has. Breasts, dude, like the whole uh part with the breast absolutely. So yeah, it's just like, would you go the extra mile if you're making a suit to put it right? That just doesn't make sense, right exactly. That's how I feel. The conical shade the nose.

34:42 Even in the upscale versions you can see some of that facial detail And I don't know, man, it just looks really good. If it's fake, those guys should. Have went and pursued a special effects or whoever built it should have pursued a special effects career. And if they didn't, then they were doing themselves a you know, disjustment and justice. So but man, I love the Patterson give on the footage. I think it's so cool. I don't know, man, I don't know what else to say about it. That is definitely my favorite. It's just cool. It's a good time. Yeah. So you started in STM was it April of this year?

35:24 July of twenty twenty three, part time and then yeah, full time miss April. Awesome. Has there been if you can share, if you can't, has there been a memory that's stuck out so far that was like, man, that was really cool? Anything maybe behind the scenes or just like a just a funny memory, anything like that. Yeah. Yeah, my first time ever being on set with the steam crew. It was like most of them they flew air and in seth was there, Courtney, Heather, Mark Matsky was there, so like all the you know, traditional steam guys, they were all there and I drove in.

36:12 I got off shift at worked when I was still part time. I worked like a sixteen hour shift. I drove all the way to Campton o High which is six hours, and then I worked like twelve hours, fourteen hours in the camp House theater. So I was up for like, whatever you want to do, Matt, go ahead, but forever. And I just worked, worked with those guys, had a blast. Didn't feel like I was working at all, and I felt like I fit in really well with them. We just had a really good time making UFOs are visited. And I was like just I don't know, it was cool because everything I've been working for, like working towards my whole life with my film career came into you know, fruition right then and there.

36:54 And that's because I bust them out. But you know, like it was just it was just cool. It was just a cool moment for me to be like I kind of like made it sort of thing. And that's because of like the hard work that I've. Put into doing this as a side hobby for so long, like literally started when I was probably twelve, you know, thirteen years old. Wow, but it's always cool, you know, And just. Had a bunch of different jobs over the years, and I'm like, I don't want to marry this career of like being depressed all the time, you know, Like, no, there's something better, man like and that's s team for me.

37:35 So I'm just splashed and happy. So anytime I get a chance to share that like that, that seems amazing. I think that's a really cool thing that we can we can tell listeners is like, if you have a dream, you can go towards that dream. Now, it might take you five to six years or longer easily to get to that dream, but if you work your tail off, did you go for it? Dude? You can. You can go for it and you can get it. Yeah, so you have to work your butt off. I mean you can't. You probably, But like for me, I'm not a very lucky guy. I'm not pretty opposite. Like bad things you tend to happen around me, but I try to. I try to be the guy who can fix them, you know, But like I work my butt off. So that's yeah, that's a good message. It is like, as long as you have a good work ethic.

38:24 You can do cool stuff like this. It's not just you know, like. Well, how can Jeremiah Tyler can you know, just do podcasts all day and that's their job. It's like, man, you can do it too. You really can't go yeah. And the other thing is like you have to want it just because you well big A big thing is like you have to be wanting to help other people through it. That to me has to be a huge part of it. Once I figured out how what I do helps people a lot, that made the difference for me and just to the side, but and pretty much you have to be able to do it. Just imagine you're in your basement just talking to yourself and like no one's listening. You just have to love what you're doing and it's all right. You did so when you started at twelve, Like what was the first camera you were were working with when you were making stuff at that age?

39:22 Oh dude, Oh my goodness. So we always had like VHS or like the little compact VCR things lying around. So I'm sure I make stuff on that. There's home videos of me like go and being like give me the camera when. I'm like four. You know, it's like I always was like into it, but I we were We didn't grow up like with a whole lot of money, so we played like filmmaker and we'd hold like brooms as like the like the boom mic and stuff. But my passion came from watching horror. Films with my me mom and my dad, my mom and like being really in Halloween stuff. Also just like loving Halloween a family, but watching like Army of Darkness got the poster up, like you know, John Carpenter stuff, Ramiro.

40:06 Watching that stuff with my memo. And my dad got me into where And when I was at the right age, I said, oh man, these people do this as a job like people make movies. Then I was like, okay, okay, this is that could be something I could pursue. Uh And then I just got weirder into it. In high school, I started doing special effects makeup because I'm like a Toom Sabini school. I'll be like Tom Savini and I'm like this skinny, like short kid in high school like doing insane weird makeup. Dude, I've got this like chest cavity. I think that's natural. In my It's like a this is so stupid, but it's like a little like, I don't know, deformity. You could call it nice effect, and man, I would make it like I'd.

40:50 Put latex in it and make it look like an alien chest burster came out and just like freaking people out. But yeah, it was more like doing stuff like that than grabbing a camera. My first camera that I ever bought was a Nikon D thirty two hundred DSLR, and I made some cool stuff on that, but just the low light wasn't good enough. But that's how I learned how to make beautiful composition with you know, anything, any kind of camera. So do you feel that your love for that early love for horror is going to show itself in any way when you're doing films for STM?

41:33 Oh? Yeah, it already is phantom lights. There's there's like little homages and phantom lights like some of the I set up scenes like interviews, scenes like like the shining stuff, like Kubrick stuff, one point perspective, like I love like west Amerson's like flat stuff too, and I'll like I play around with that one STM stuff Like if you watch any of my stuff, you'll probably you'll probably jump out pretty early that this dude likes seventies four films and Jallo horror and Italian horror, what old westerns and like you'll see it. I like wide landscapes and yeah, so it definitely transcends. Hopefully it can transcend into like a screenplay. You know, maybe that's my that's my end goal. But right now, I love what we're doing. I don't care that. I don't care what it is. As long as I'm making movies, I'm happy.

42:30 That's awesome. So every how, let's say, is Halloween every Halloween? Is there a movie that you pop in every Halloween? You gotta watch it every year? Oh dude, it's probably on my floor. I just we just moved in, so I got all my whole collections, like on the floor right now. But Phantasm, dude, Phantasm nineteen seventy eight, seventy seven, Don cost Growley, that's the one. Another Halloween go to, dude, there's a million, like definitely John Harper's Halloween. Of course you have to watch that. But like, oh man returnal let me dead. Oh, there's all kinds of good stuff. Hocus Pocus, Oh, hocus pocus, dude, you're getting in, You're you want to talk Halloween movies. Oh ed Wood, Tim Burtons ed Wood. That gives me, that's fool Halloween movie.

43:22 I don't know. I like weird stuff too, so that's awesome. Uh, but seriously, hocus Pocus is about the most I can handle. But maybe maybe I will take the titles you said, maybe I'll I'll jump into something else. Don't watch the new hocus Pocus. Dude, No, I heard it was It was terrible. We just we just lost Disney as a sponsor. Guys, just kidding. They're not a sponsor. You're down in Appalachia. Yeah, so let's think. Let's think about this, and half the comments is going to be mad. I said it that way. You can say it one or two days, so we're gonna say that. There's three sayings of apparently. Yeah. Someone calls it apple dude. I heard it the other day for the first time, and it's like some Pennsylvania people.

44:07 It was like, so there's Appalachia, Appalachia, which is what I say, And then there was dude, I don't even remember, but it's weird. It's so weird the way they said it, apple Leasia, apple laka. It was crazy. Wow. Yeah, there's three, dude, We're gonna make someone mad. Regardless, It's gonna be great for engagement in the comments for sure. So thinking of growing up down there, what is the weirdest legend that you remember when you're growing up and you're learning about that whole area. What's the weirdest legend that you can think of down there?

44:48 All right, So. I'm gonna do the two parter I like to. Uh So, I'm from I was born in back little western Jai Mothman for that region, of course, Like everyone knows about month Man, right, I mean, Mothman's worldwide now, but of course you know, being from West Virginia, like that's your dude, Like from everyone knows Mothman. But being front, but growing up in the Shando Valley in Virginia, we have a local legend that is not many people know about. And there's this old mausoleum out on the west side of. The river here in the Shando River, and it's those are the boonies man the Page County.

45:32 Those are the boonies. You go down this road called Page. Valley Road, and there's mausoleum that sits in the woods, abandoned and it's an old a frame cedar cedar log mausoleum, and it's dilapidating now and there's a lot of graffiti. But it was built in the. Forties, nineteen forties, nineteen fifties by a guy named Bourbon Westernberger. Big for a society. WO will be right back after these messages.

46:13 He was from Germany. He luckily got out of Germany as a young man pre World War two and went to school here in Virginia. So right here in Virginia, Virginia, he got a plot of land, he built a home, and then he shipped his parents over that they were ceased in these coffins from Germany, and then built them a mausoleum. And it took him years to finish the mausoleum. So they sat in his house. That kind of became a legend for that time for those that boomer generation. People go to his house look through windows, you know. Anyway. So but in the nineties, those his parents' bodies and their tomb was desecrated and.

46:56 Uh dug up and thrown out. In the woods of the natural wars out there. And that's all coroborated by the law enforcement officers that work that case and then the corner who's still alive. Well, I do work for the funeral all the time. It seems like, oh, really weird. Yeah, dude, like I've live stream it's not funny, but it is kind of funny, like live stream funerals. I like help them install their like live stream equipment now and then I've just like done dry walling for this is weird stuff. So but anyway, that Big Dow is the guy's name. There's like three downs, big big Dow, Big Dal, little Down and big big Dal still.

47:38 Alive and get it, like goat pick that pick their bodies up. So it's just a weird. But it's like a it's like a lover's lane slash, like let's go scare the girls in high school legend and. And that's it. That's it. Boom. That's very interesting. Not a big fan of the whole throwing the bodies out in the woods or like that's it's not a cool move. Don't do that, guys, crazy. Yeah, do you think do you think feral people are a real deal? So that's something you run run into. I don't think they are just and I can explain that or. Thoroughly I think I think there's very poor people, and I think there's very culturally.

48:26 Connected people. That's why am I saying it like that. There are people that live in the hollers Bapalachia that are very poor and they might have had some issues genetically. Or just you know, birth effects that make them a certain way. I know a lot of these people have had to work cases with these people. I've worked calls with these people. I have some of these people as my family, and I think those are the people that get miss interpreted as feral people. I think there's a lot of crazy drug addicts in Appalachia as well who this intributed to as faroh people as well. That's just kind of my opinion on it, just because I'm from Appalachia. Like, we had these two dudes that hang out they're called the ah Shoot the Harlow Brothers, and they literally hang out on the side too eleven and they will jump in front of your car for no reason, like that's their goal is to just like jump.

49:25 And run out in front of your car and we go in Harlow get off the meta. You like have to shoot them off the road. I've searched them for you find rotten bananas. Like, it's just. Strange stuff that if you're from not from here, and you drive down to eleven US Highway to eleven and you see the Harlow Brothers trying to jump out in front of your car try to get in your car, you might think they're federal people because they do look like that. They do, but they're just these dudes that are like, they have mental illness problems, they're poor. I've actually heard stories that they have some mon but that's another local lesson. The comments they're gonna be blowing up now.

50:05 Yeah, yeah, but that's that's what I think of that. That's how I perceive that. I think they've been I think that story has been perpetuated into something else. That's just my opinion on But and man, if there are real feral people, I'm I'm interested. Yeah, no, absolutely, Man, what a documentary that would be. But so you're saying that this is current day. If I drive down this road, these dudes dude like totally jump out and trying to. Mess My first time my girlfriend saw them last year, like last summer, and she was driving and I was like, oh no, and I said, hey, just you need to go like far around these dudes and like keep driving and she was like what what. I was like, I'm not trying to freak you out, just like don't pay them any attention. And then of course I hear they call them dude. They're like running out on the road.

50:58 But yeah, it's modern man, like exist. There's a lot of those kind of people around here, you know, and it's sad, it's really unfortunate to see. But you know they're also like, don't do that, don't try to like get in someone's car, you know, But yeah, they exist, dude. That kind of stuff exists. Mm hmm. Do you let me let me put this in your ear? Do you think there's any chance STM might do a big foot thing in Southeast Oklahoma? Southeast O. Wink wink maybe? I don't know what. Actually I'm not sure what the wink is. I don't know. I'm out of the loop on that.

51:43 No, I'm just if there's you want to set is like, hey, any ideas for bigfoot documentaries? Yeah, actually Southeast. Dude, I've heard some cool stuff come out of there. Man. Then they are like a sight down there that's like supposed to have a bunch. Activity Yeah, Area X and all that jazz and Adam and Seth went down there and back in the day and crazy stuff happened. Yeah, wow, you should You should talk to him about its uh some pretty cool stories. So yeah, man, I'll have to I need to do a little more research on Area X, but I have heard stuff come out of there, and it seems like it's a pretty big hotspot. And you wouldn't necessarily think of homeless a state for that, but it has a lot of uh, it has a lot of like Eastern Texas vibes to it, which is a whole bunch of trees.

52:39 Absolutely makes sense. It has been a fun time chatting with you tonight about Bigfoot and dog Man all sorts of weird stuff and vintage horror. Didn't know we were going there, but we went there. It is pretty cool. Yeah. What are some ways that people can reach out to you? And if people have cool cool stuff for you to look up regarding Bigfoot in that area of Virginia, how can they contact you? Please? Yeah? T Hall at small town Monsters dot com. That's my email, super easy to send me that T Hall at small Timemonsers dot com or just hit me up on Instagram.

53:20 Tyler all film but yeah, DM me whatever, we'll talk weird stuff. Awesome, very cool. Thanks for coming on, Tyler, and I hope our paths cross again in the future. Oh, Jeremiah was great. Thanks for having me, ma'am. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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55:28 Her and I can get on here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening. That's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about it. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've ever seen one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you. You have, shame on you. M