May 1, 2025

The Thing That Watched Us From the Woods: Debra’s Red River Encounter | Pt. 1

What happens when a quiet ranch on the edge of the Red River becomes a hotbed of bizarre and terrifying encounters? In this chilling episode, we sit down with Debra, a North Texas mother and longtime Bigfoot Society listener, who bravely shares the...

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Season 1

What happens when a quiet ranch on the edge of the Red River becomes a hotbed of bizarre and terrifying encounters? In this chilling episode, we sit down with Debra, a North Texas mother and longtime Bigfoot Society listener, who bravely shares the strange and unsettling phenomena she and her family have experienced over the years. From a barn filled with mutilated goats, to an intelligent presence choosing which roosters should live — and which should die — Deborah’s accounts are unlike anything we’ve heard before.

You’ll hear about the strange voices mimicking owls and people, the creature caught watching her from 50 feet away, and the moment she realized something out there was not only real — it was aware. With encounters near Thackerville, Lake Texoma, and the eerie forests surrounding Purgatory, Oklahoma, this episode dives deep into the heart of Texas’ cryptid activity.

If you're drawn to tales of mystery, survival, and the unexplainable intelligence of Sasquatch, you won’t want to miss this one. Stay with us. Part 2 drops soon.

Resources: Harley Hoffman Bigfoot video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERdW5IiWHGA

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's

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story doesn't come from a camper or a weekend hiker.

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It's from a mother, a quiet woman living on a

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ranch in North Texas, just miles from the Red River.

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But something else lives there too, Creatures that mimic voices,

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something that pulled the heads off of her goats, and

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something that knew exactly which roosters she didn't want and

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killed only them. This is in folklore. It's not secondhand.

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It's a first hand account from someone who's seen the

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unexplainable over and over again. This is the story of

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Deborah and what's been watching her from the woods. So

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stay with us. All I pick for Society. I've got

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the privilege of talking to Deborah today. Devra's an individual

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that is a listener of the show and reached out

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to me about some interesting things that her family has

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experienced over the years. So thankfully she was able to

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come on the show and share those and welcome to

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the program, Deborah, Thank.

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You, Jeremiah, thanks for having me on.

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Absolutely you know this is going to be an episode

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where it goes over multiple states, multiple years, so I

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want to make sure that you have the time to

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share what you've come prepared to share today. So I'm

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going to go ahead and pass things over to you.

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Feel free to take us back as far back as

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we need to go when all this started happening for

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you and your family.

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Okay, I'll start with kind of telling a little bit

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about myself. I'm my name is Deborah, and I live

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in North Texas, and I live with my two sons,

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and we live on a large parcel of land in

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North Texas, and it's kind of not very far from

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the Red River. So to the west of US we

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have Thackerville, Oklahoma, and then to the east of US,

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we have Lake Texoma. So you can imagine there's a

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lot of things going on being between those two real

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hot spots. I guess you could say, but I tried

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to write down as many experiences between me and my

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family and some family friends over multiple states, and I

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just wanted to make sure to share everything.

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That's why it took me.

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A little longer to be ready, because I wanted to

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make sure that I didn't leave any of these out.

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So I will go ahead and start with my own

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experiences and how I got involved with this subject and

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then then I will say the family and friends, probably

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for the end. But okay, So when I was a

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small girl, my sister who is about seventeen years older

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than me, and she was kind of like a mother

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to me. She had a big foot book and I

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kind of vaguely remember it looking like one of the

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covers of one of John Green's books, but I'm not

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I'm not really sure, but that's kind of what it

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makes me think of. So I really didn't think much

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about it. And you know, I don't know how much

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time passed, but I was in elementary school at the time,

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and I probably was in about the second or third grade.

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But there was a family that moved into our school

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district from Missouri and they had a whole lot of girls,

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and one of the girls was in my class, and

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she sat in front of me, and I vaguely remember

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her name being Laura, but it's kind of been so

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long I kind of, you know, kind of may be

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wrong about that, but anyway, so she and I, she

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sat in front of me, so she and I were chatting,

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and she told me that they moved to Texas from

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Missouri with her family because of momo, and I had

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no idea what a momo was, so I asked her,

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what's a MoMA? She so, she tells me it was

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a big hairy monster, and that she said it started

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coming in to their area, and that one day while

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they were at school in their class, momo had walked

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across the lawn of the school carrying a dog under

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its arm.

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And so it kind of.

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Reminded me of the book that my sister had because

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I couldn't as a little kid, I really couldn't put

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it all in perspective. So anyway, apparently it was frightening

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enough for that family that they moved all the way

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to Texas. So anyway, that was kind of my first experience.

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But there were other things that happened, like when I

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was married, probably around nineteen ninety, I lived in East

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Texas with my husband and my two sons and.

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In a little city called Wolf City.

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And so my husband, you did about two hours to

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Dallas every day, so the kids and I would be

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out in the country kind of all by ourself. And

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you know, it's just I never liked living there and

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I was never felt I never really felt safe there.

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But one day my husband was at work, and the

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kids and I drove into town Commerce, Texas to get

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groceries and where I had a lot of my family living.

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And when we got back, something or someone had rounded

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up our little mamma cat and all of her babies

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and they drowned them all in the you know those

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metal what do you call those the cattle waters, because

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we had a lot of cows on our land, so

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something had gathered up our cats and drowned them all. So,

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you know, I was just like really shocked, and I

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didn't know who or what would do such a thing.

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And so that was kind of strange enough. But then

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another happened. At that house. I had fourteen Nubian goats,

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and I had one of those was like a real stout,

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tough little buck, you know, the mail goat. And I

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had four nannies and all the rest of them were babies.

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And I would get up and I would go out

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and I would milk the nannies every morning and then

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again every night.

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And so one morning.

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I got up and I went out with my little

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my little milking bucket. And the if you walk around

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behind the barn, there's like a gate and a long

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fence to get into the pasture where the back of

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the barn door was. So I when I came around

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the corner to the back of the to the back

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of the.

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Barn, I notice the barn door was open. And that really.

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Surprised me because I would have expected to see all

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my goats, you know, kind of out in the pasture.

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If the door's open, why wouldn't they go out and

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eat grass and stuff? Right, So anyway, so I went

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inside the gate and shut it and walked in, and

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I saw the most horrific, horrific sight. And something came

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into the barn and ripped the heads and all the

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legs and arms off of my boats, every last one

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of them, even that, even that the buck, you know,

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and so they pot whoever did it, something with very

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strong hands, and you know, it had to have been

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very strong to be able to pull the heads off

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of that buck. That's all I can think of. And

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those nannies, because that's not human strength that's able to

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do that. But anyway, when I found them, they were

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there was a big pile of body parts all against

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one wall of the barn, and so I was so

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upset and couldn't believe what I saw. I just went

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running out of there because it was just it was

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just so disturbing and it scared me. So, yeah, humans

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can't rip the heads off goats, and I don't know

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of any human that could just rip any arms or

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legs off of a goat much less I had, you know,

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and pull the head off of the body that I

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you know, I keep having this picture in my mind

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of something chasing them all around inside there, you know,

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until it caught every one of them, And anyway, maybe

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there was more than one, but I really feel like

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that was a bigfoot kind of thing. And so anyway,

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that brings me up to where I'm living now here

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in North Texas. That was pretty much all of that,

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and that happened at that particular house. So so my

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son purchased like this large parcel of land and he

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built this home and we all kind of moved in

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and we're all kind of like ranch hands and we're

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all kind of taking care of everything. And so before

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where we built the house, we had we had, like

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while they were getting the ground ready and the pad

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ready to build the house and port concrete and do

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all the framing and all that kind of stuff, we

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had already built a chicken coop, and we already had

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all of our chickens. My son and I would drive

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in from the city. It was about an hour away,

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but we would drive in from the city and we

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would you know, bring up our table scraps and all

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of our feed.

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And we would just feed them when when we got here.

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And so one day he and my younger son and

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I we were standing in the chicken in the chicken

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run where they get out and run around, and we

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were standing there and we were discussed. I had bought

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a straight run of baby chicks, so they weren't sext

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so we didn't know which ones were you know, we

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didn't know how many hens we'd have or how many

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roosters we would have out of the batch. So anyway,

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so we ended up probably with about half and half.

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So we had probably about a dozen roosters that we

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you know, we had fed them and raised them and

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from chicks, and so we didn't know if we were

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gonna you know, harvest them or sell them, or you know,

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what to do with them. So we were picking out

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which ones we wanted to keep and which ones we

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wanted to get rid of that we didn't want, and

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all of a sudden, something out of the woods with

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this it's kind of like a male voice, but it

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was like a very deep, heavy, heavy male voice, and

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it yelled, get it, get it out of the out

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of the forest. And I looked at my son, who

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was mid sentence, and he looks at me. I said,

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did you just hear that? And he goes, of course,

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I just heard that. I said, well, what did you hear?

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And he said, I heard something out in the woods

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yelling get it, get it. And I said, yes, that's

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whatever too. Only the weird thing about it, Jeremiah, is

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it sounded like something imitating a bird, and it wasn't

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really a bird. It was something imitating a bird. And

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so let.

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Me check my notes, because I.

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Have a I didn't want to leave anything else. So anyway,

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so the next day my son, I had something I

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had to do in town. So my son said, no,

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no problem, I'll go by myself. And so he came

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up to the ranch and was going to feed the

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chickens on his own.

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And the next thing you.

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Know, he calls me up on the phone and he says, Mom,

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you remember we were talking about those roosters yesterday, the

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ones we wanted to keep, and the ones we wanted

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to get rid of. And I said, yeah, why and

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he said, because the ones we said we didn't want,

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He said, they're all dead. He said, they all have

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their next broke. He said, none of them have been eaten,

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he said, But he said, but the ones that we

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said we wanted, he said, they're all still alive. And

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he goes, He goes, Mom, I'm really freaked out. I

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was like, oh my gosh, I'm freaked out too. And

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so whatever, we figured that whatever was in the forest

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was intelligent. It knew what we were saying. It paid

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attention to every decision we made about roosters, and I

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really it was just such a it was just such

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a bizarre, disturbing thing. We didn't really know what to

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make of it, and we we weren't thinking Bigfoot at

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that time, you know. So there was another time that

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so that was kind of the last of what happened

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with that.

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We didn't have any more.

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Episodes with anything killing our chickens are except for just

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like you know, ol and hawks and things like that.

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But so there was another time that I was on

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the side by side and I was just finishing up

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my feeding, and I was about to crank up the

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side by side when I saw something kind of move

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like over to the right where up from where I

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was parked, and I looked over and I saw some

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kind of being I'll call it a being, and it

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was sitting next to an oak tree, and it was

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sitting on its butt, but it had its arms like

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straight out in front of it like a cat would sit,

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kind of like the way a cat would perch like

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it sits on And I don't know, I guess dogs

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do that too, but the faith on this thing, it

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looked like the only thing I can think of is

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like one of those mandrel looking apes. And it had

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like the front of its face was like black or

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really dark brown or black down the nose, but the

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cheeks were kind of like a beige, not really tanned,

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but more of like a.

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Beige color on the cheeks.

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And I absolutely froze and I jerked my head back

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over to the left, and I was I closed my

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eyes and I was like, oh, my gosh, is that

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what I saw?

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Is that what I saw?

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And people and people always say, you know, you don't

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you don't look at them, you don't look them in

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the eyes and stuff.

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That's what I've heard over the yours.

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I don't know if it's true or not, but I

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made this. I took my thumb and my finger. I

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don't know why I did this, but I was like

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thinking that if I put my thumb and my finger together,

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I could make like a little a little peep hole basically.

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And so I looked back over there and it was

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still sitting there, and I got a good look at it,

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and I was just like froze, and I it just

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like this thing. It just felt like it was just

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like looking into my soul, and I was I was

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absolutely petrified. So I decided to try to crank up

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the side by side and get back to the house.

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I really expected this thing.

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To start following me and chasing me, and it was

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only fifty foot away. I got a really good look

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at it, so I just felt like, you know, I

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just felt like pray was sitting there so or like

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an intimidated little child, you know, something is making you

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frightened and you start to squirm and all of that

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kind of stuff. So anyway, that was truly a laugh

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flash before my eyes moment. I've never felt anything like

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that all of my other encounters have been a little

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bit more of a distance, but this one, this one

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has absolutely been the worst. Well there's another one that's

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kind of similar, but I'll tell you about that one

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in a minute.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages. Sorry,

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real quick, while we're here, I want to clarify. So

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is this also in the Thackerville Red River area?

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Yes, on our ranch.

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That's uh, we're about about fifteen minutes from Backerville, as

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the crow flies gotcha.

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And this happened how long ago? Approximately?

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It was probably about three years ago.

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Oh wow, okay, all right, thank you.

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Some of these I mean, this stuff seems to happen

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like it like really rams up in the spring on

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this piece of property for whatever reason. I've talked to

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the sheriff about it. I've talked to his what their

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their neighbors by the way, and I've talked to them

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about it, and they said that, you know, a lot

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of people have been reporting a lot of strange similar things,

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so it's not just us. So anyway, so this thing

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looked to be about while it was sitting down, it

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still looked it was, and it was skinny. It didn't

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you know, you wouldn't think that it would be skinny.

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I mean, all of these creatures people always report looking

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like really you know, big and buff and luscily, and

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this thing wasn't.

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It was skinny.

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It it was.

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About three sitting down.

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It looked to be about three and a half to

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four foot pall.

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I know, that's that's.

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Still big for something that's sitting down and not standing

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up on its hind legs, but it's it to me

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from fifty foot away, that was my best guess that

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it was probably three and a half. I'm going to

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go with three and a half on the on the sitting,

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but it, like I said, it was just really skinny.

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And I I don't know if it hadn't been eating

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or you know, if it was sick. I don't know why,

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but it was just really skinny. So anyway, that's that's

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that one. And then I had another experience, uh where

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I was in my garden appear closer to the house,

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but we're you know, we're very very heavily wooded here.

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And I was in the garden and I was digging

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holes and I was planning tomatoes, and suddenly I start

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hearing lips smacking, and I was like, what is that?

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And so, you know, I'm on my knees and I'm

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digging holes and platten tomatoes. So I get up and

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I stand up and I start looking around and I'm

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the only one out there, and I was like, what

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am I hearing?

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Lips smacking?

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I mean it was it was loud, and it was

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it was something, you know, the sound up, so you know,

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I was like, well, maybe it's my imagination. So I,

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you know, I get back down on the ground and

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I start digging holes again, and I start planting tomatoes again.

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And a couple of minutes later, I hear lips smacking again,

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and I was like, what's the wreck? So I got

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up and I started looking in the direction that I

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thought it came from, and I could see something short,

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kind of three or four foot tall in the distance

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on the right side of an oak tree. So I

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got my camera out and I was like, I can't

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see that far and I don't know what it is.

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So I think I sent you the video of where

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I actually recorded it, because I was just trying to

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zoom in to see what it is I was seeing.

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And I think there's a still shot of it too,

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But so I zoomed in and I saw this thing

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sitting or standing next to a tree. I don't know

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if it was standing or sitting. I could only see

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like the top part of it, but it looked it

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looked three or four foot tall as well.

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Could have been the same thing.

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I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know if it could.

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Have been the same thing or anyway, it's probably different.

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But anyway, did you have something with Sorry?

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Was that the one? I think it may have been

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a picture? Says Creature in your garden.

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Yes, and it kind of is looking like you're looking

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at the right profile side of its face.

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Yeah, it looks like something there that's wild.

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Yeah. Yeah, some people say it looks like a white bear.

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And and I have a friend, I have some friends

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in Georgia who are who I've known for years, and

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they seem to think that it was a dog man.

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But that doesn't look like the average dog man in

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my mind. So I still don't know. And if you

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want to, you want to give your opinion on what

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you think it looks like, that'd be great.

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So, yeah, I don't want to rab a trail to

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too much. I'm going to really try not to the

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area that you're in. Backerville.

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Red River.

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Is absolutely wild. There's a lot of activity in there,

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a ton of it regarding Bigfoot and dog man, So

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it could I'm thinking the way it looks like, I'm

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thinking more like Bigfoot, but like it could easily be either.

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Have you heard of an area near you called Purgatory?

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No, okay, I'm kind of midway between Backerville and Lake Texoma,

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and you know there's a lot of stuff that goes

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on Alma.

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Yeah, absolutely, I mean Lake tex Olma. There's some I

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mean everything from Bigfoot to dog man, to pale crawlers

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to a lot of weird stuff. But if you're over

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by Thackerville and red River, on the west side of

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the Red River and so between the main highway in

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the Red River, there's an area called Purgatory there and

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it has some really really aggressive probably the most aggressive

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I've ever heard bigfoot encounters. Like, if you start looking

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up big Foot in Purgatory in Oklahoma, it's going to

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blow your mind. But also in that w M a

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north of you, guys, uh, there have been tigers reported

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because you know, you've got a few big cat rescues

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where they've let the cats go, So they're actually tigers

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that are seen in that area as well. Allegedly we

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throw that in there.

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That would be like that would be like right near there.

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They could like come right down the river and come

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right up the other side and be right in.

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Texas, yes, ma'am. Yeah, wow, So for all of that, right, Yeah,

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So I mean anything you say, I'm saying, yeah, it's

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it's absolutely bonkers. So there you go.

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Okay. So you know, even before we had anything here

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at all, we used to come up and kind of

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work on the land.

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Like my sons would work on They.

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Would have their excavators and their skid steers and stuff,

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and they'd be tearing out trees and making the you know,

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getting everything ready. And sometimes I would come up here

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by myself, like I would have to I would have

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to meet a contractor or something while my sons were.

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At work, and I would be like walking along.

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I would be growled at, I would be whooped at.

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I would I have been screamed at. I mean, all

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kinds of stuff has happened to me here on this land,

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and and so it's just nerve wracking too. It's like

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I'll tell you later about all of these things happening.

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It's like I used to have to go down and

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feed the chickens and stuff, and it's it's probably about

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a thousand foot down a dirt road from that my

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son put in from the house. And so that's that's

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why I have a friend in England, and he he's

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always he's was my business partner for for quite a

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number of years. But we he he is such a

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good guard. He always goes with me down there to

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feed and so I because I it's just so nerve

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wracking to go down there by myself after the things

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that I've seen.

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So and I'll touch on those those will be coming up.

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I'm sorry.

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I have nine pages of notes that I that I

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wrote for this for this call because I didn't want

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to leave anything out. So, okay, you're getting all of it.

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Everything I've ever ever experienced, everything anybody in my family

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has ever experienced, my son's you name it, okay, So

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all right, So the next one, okay, So I told

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you that one. And and there was another time my

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son when we were up here clearing trees and my

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son was in the excavator and I was sitting in

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what do you call that in the side by side,

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and I was just like watching him work, because I

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just like watching them tear out trees and stuff. And

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so we're sitting there and all of a sudden we

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get screamed at, and my son, he's in the excavator,

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and he stops and he just looks at me and

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climbs down and says, he said, did you hear that?

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And I said, I sure did, And he said, you

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better get us back up to the house. He said,

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I'm not gonna do anymore with whatever that is out

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there screaming. So something was you could tell it. I mean,

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the whole time I was sitting there, I felt like

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I was being watched. You know how you get those

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little you feel like the eyes are burning on the

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back of your neck or your head, and you just

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feel like, you know, you get that really uneasy feeling.

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So anyway, he jumped in the side by side and

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I drove us back up to the house, and you know,

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he didn't want to go back out there for a

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little bit, and neither did I. But I kind of

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had no choice because I had all those chickens and

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stuff to feed, and I I raised I have I

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have raised pigs here too myself. So anyway, okay, So

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the next thing that.

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Happened was.

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So uh, I sent you a video of a thing

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that happened with this. I think it was like a

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three hundred foot roll of twine that I got at

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home depot to trail.

470
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.240
Us up my tomatoes.

471
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:49.400
And so I was working doing that, and I got

472
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.200
up the next morning. I was trying My son didn't

473
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:52.400
have time to help me, and I was going to

474
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.279
try to do it myself. And you know, everybody's busy

475
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.160
with their own projects. So I was trying to trying

476
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.039
to do it myself and didn't do very good at it,

477
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:05.680
trust me. So I went out there and walked to

478
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.440
the very back of the garden where that box was,

479
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:13.519
and the box was gone, but I'm like looking around

480
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.079
for the box, and I looked down and I noticed

481
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:21.319
that it had been unwound, and it's like something was

482
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.759
walking through the garden and it was this pulling this

483
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.880
twine out and walked all the way out of the garden,

484
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.960
and I mean it went down the garden is fifty

485
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.839
foot long, and then it walked probably another fifty sixty

486
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.480
feet past the garden or out of the garden, and

487
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.119
then it cut a shark left and then it went

488
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:47.599
off into the forest. And so I made that video

489
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.319
because I thought that was just the strangest thing. And

490
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.200
I went to the house and I got my younger

491
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.559
son and I was like, could you come out here

492
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.400
and let me show you something real quick. So I

493
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:00.799
showed it to him, and he's like, where's it going?

494
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.880
I said, it goes off out there into the forest,

495
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.920
and he goes. I said, it's just too heavy in there,

496
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.000
and there's a lot of briers.

497
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.079
And stuff, and I said, I just don't want to

498
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:11.000
go in after.

499
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.440
It, and so he goes, Okay, well, i'll guess I'll

500
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.720
go in and get it for you.

501
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.440
So he goes in there and he finds that it goes.

502
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.359
Up over some tall limbs in the trees, and then

503
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.759
it comes back down and it goes over some it

504
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:31.200
goes over some low trees, tree limbs, and then under

505
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.920
that and then up again, and then it goes like

506
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.640
I think a final like it started weaving around some trees.

507
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.480
And my son brings it all to me back and

508
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.319
he goes, you're not going to believe this, and I said,

509
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.279
what what happened? He goes, it goes up over some

510
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.680
limbs and down under some limbs, and he said, then

511
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:54.559
it weaves around some tree. So anyway, he went in

512
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.000
and got it, and it was just like he's like,

513
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.640
I don't, I don't know what does that. I said,

514
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:04.119
I don't either, And I said, you know, a raccoon

515
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.480
or a maybe a coyodee or something picked the box

516
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.400
up and took it out of there. I said, but

517
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.759
that wouldn't explain why I have all of these four

518
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.440
foot tall trellises, like I had some sitting there for cucumbers,

519
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.920
And so the twine goes up over these, over like

520
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:28.279
two or three of these four foot trellises that where

521
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.400
I had cucumbers growing, and then it goes out into

522
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.160
the things. So that to me kind of tells me

523
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.759
that something with hands did that, and it put it

524
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.279
up over those trellises and took it out into the forest.

525
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.400
You know. So that was another another strange thing that

526
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:51.240
happened here that we just really couldn't explain. And uh so, yeah,

527
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.559
it takes hands to unwind all that, because if I

528
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.240
had it, I would I would have to be pulling

529
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.440
it out of the box and unraveling it, you know.

530
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:07.680
And another thing is that. Let's see, so I told

531
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.319
you that one. Okay, yeah, you know, I really think

532
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.720
that maybe and I feel like we're watched here all

533
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:17.000
the time, like something is observing us all the time,

534
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.440
and I feel like maybe juveniles are missing with me.

535
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.119
And I'll tell you more about that later Big.

536
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.519
For Society will be right back after these messages.

537
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.000
And because I actually and I'll go, I can go

538
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.079
ahead and tell you this now. But my sons were like,

539
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.880
they've been clearing trees. They've had to go. We had

540
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.319
to get new fences on this property. So they went

541
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.480
around and they had to tear out all the trees

542
00:30:57.559 --> 00:30:59.799
and the fence rolls all the way around the property

543
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.079
so that we could hire people to come out and

544
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.759
put in fence, you know, for the cattle.

545
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.720
And so.

546
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:13.079
I walked all the way up to there's this great, big,

547
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.680
huge heel and so I didn't even take my phone.

548
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.000
I was just going to go up and see what

549
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:20.000
the guys were doing and see what they wanted for

550
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.920
lunch or something. But I walked up there and they

551
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.880
had moved to another area, so they weren't where I

552
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:31.039
thought they were. So anyway, I started to come back

553
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:35.640
down the hill, and when I turned the corner, I

554
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.000
just looked over and I saw this little monkey looking

555
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.599
like they had tore out a bunch of trees, and

556
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.920
they all had limbs on them, so they they were

557
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.440
like not laying flat like you if you had just logs.

558
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.440
So these things were all kind of kind of just

559
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.519
piled up in this great, big old brush pile.

560
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.240
The whole tree with all.

561
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.319
The limbs and everything on it just torn out by

562
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:04.319
the excavator. So I look over and I see what

563
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:09.119
looks like the neck and the shoulder of this monkey.

564
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:11.400
I'm just gonna call it a monkey because I don't

565
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.920
know Hillstick College, but it was like kind of moving

566
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.960
back and forth around in there, and it was over

567
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:19.960
to my right, and I looked over at it, and

568
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.640
the first thing I said was please don't chase me.

569
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.519
Please don't chase me, because it scared me so bad.

570
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.319
I was just like, what in the heck is that?

571
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.559
Because I know we don't have monkeys here in North Texas.

572
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.240
So you know, I'm looking at this thing and I

573
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.720
was just talking to it. I saw it, and I

574
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.519
just kept walking and I was just like, oh, please, God,

575
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.559
don't let this thing follow me. Please, don't let this

576
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.319
thing fakes me. But I could see it's arm and

577
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:49.079
its shoulder and its neck moving around in there. And

578
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.200
it had kind of a kind of a light gray

579
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:57.319
kind of skin, but it had a dark it had

580
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.319
like dark hair, if that makes any sense. It was

581
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.440
kind of like a slate, grainy looking skin.

582
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:05.160
Yeah, dark hair.

583
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.279
Could you get a feel for how big it was

584
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:07.640
at all?

585
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:17.440
I would guess it's it was probably about maybe three

586
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:18.000
foot tall.

587
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.119
Weird, really weird.

588
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.759
It wasn't that. It really wasn't that big.

589
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.519
And that's why I'm and I'll go ahead since we're

590
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.880
going ahead and talking about that another time, and it's

591
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.000
not in the chronological order.

592
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:34.440
That I have my notes in, but I just want

593
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.480
to add that I U.

594
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.200
I drag a water hose all around because I've planted

595
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.359
an orchard, and it's my orchard is kind of like

596
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:43.720
all around the house.

597
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:45.440
Of all of the fruit trees and everything.

598
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.480
So one day I went outside and I was dragging

599
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.759
the water hose up and I was gonna, you know,

600
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:57.400
start watering all the trees. And I kind of looked

601
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:02.920
down and I saw these little kid foot prince barefoot footprints.

602
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:06.079
And so I was like what the heck?

603
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.519
And then I kept walking and then I turned around

604
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.800
and I noticed, and do you see the pictures of

605
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:17.639
the rocks? Absolutely that same day, those those three or

606
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.679
four pictures of rocks, those were like right behind my

607
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.360
son's truck. Something. It was like, and I thought, I

608
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.960
thought we had a feral kid, like some kind of

609
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.719
little faral kid out in the woods or something. You know.

610
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.519
It's you can see where something was walking around, and

611
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.239
then you can see where it sat down and played

612
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:39.599
with rocks like a little kid does.

613
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.320
And my first thought was a feral kid.

614
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.480
So that's those and so that's that's part of that

615
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.079
story or what happened with all of that. So anyway,

616
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.960
so let's see. So there was another time I was like,

617
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.760
I went and and stayed at my house in the

618
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.480
city for like a month, and my younger son was

619
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.719
taken care of everything here, and I had I had

620
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.719
built up my chicken flock to probably seventy five to

621
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:17.639
eighty birds, and so my son decides he's gonna let

622
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.360
them out and let them just kind of free range

623
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.800
for a while. So he opens up the door and

624
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.440
he lets them out. Well, predators come, and they took

625
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:31.599
about half of the flock. And so so the next

626
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.559
year when some of this stuff was happening and I

627
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.239
was out there working in the garden, that was the

628
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.639
previous year. So now this this year that all of

629
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.000
these other things are kind of happening in that spring,

630
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:47.280
because everything happens here in the spring. I was in

631
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.679
the garden and I was forgot what I was doing,

632
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.960
but I started hearing. I started hearing, like in the forest,

633
00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:00.400
a chicken clucking. And I was like, oh, And I

634
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.119
was thinking to myself, oh, you know what one of

635
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.480
those chickens must have from vive. Maybe it got it

636
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.280
been a truck, you know. I'm just my brain is

637
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.159
just going, there's a chicken out there. There's you know,

638
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.400
one of them still alive. So I so I start

639
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.199
to I think I was hoeing around some vegetables plants,

640
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.719
and so anyway, I put the hole down and then

641
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.599
I start to head over there, and I was like,

642
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.760
wait a minute, there's we have too many predators. There's

643
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.960
no And then I just I had this feeling in

644
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.880
the pit of my stomach that told me that something

645
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.360
was baiting me and luring me out of the garden.

646
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.599
I knew it. I just knew it, and I just.

647
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:45.760
Had this this shocking realization that I was fixing to

648
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.480
get I was fixing to disappear.

649
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.960
So I ran. I ran in the house.

650
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.559
If you've ever seen a sixty two year old lady run,

651
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.480
I was running in the house because it scared me

652
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:03.719
so bad. But I knew I was getting baited. And

653
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:10.920
then there was another time that let's see, I think

654
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.760
I told you that one. And so there was another

655
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.920
time that my son and I were down at the

656
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.239
chicken coop and the side by side and he was driving,

657
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.199
and so we were driving back up to the house

658
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:25.800
and we have kind of a horse. Our road is

659
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.400
kind of like a horseshoe, so he he was you know,

660
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.679
like from the chicken coop to the house, it's kind

661
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.400
of like the road is like a horseshoe. And so

662
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:41.199
my so my son was driving, and he's really funny

663
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.920
and he likes to tease me and stuff, and so

664
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.440
he like he likes to scare me when I get

665
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.039
on there. So he just like floors it and he's

666
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.280
like he's like jerking the side by side, like back

667
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.599
and forth, like swerving and swerving and swerving. Well, there's

668
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.360
a spot where his dad is building a house, and

669
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.559
they had brought in like a bunch of loads of

670
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.280
top soil and stuff for the for the for the

671
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:15.400
pad for the dad's house. And so I was gonna

672
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.920
look at him and go really, because he was like

673
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.280
swerving and trying to scare me and stuff. So when

674
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.960
I looked over at him to say really, before I

675
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.880
could get the words out of my mouth, I could

676
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:32.079
see passed his head and behind that, behind those piles

677
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:35.840
of dirt, I could see do you know that have

678
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.960
you ever seen the bigfoot? That's a man put I

679
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:41.559
think his name is Harley Hoffman.

680
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.920
That's walking from right to left.

681
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.599
Okay, this one was walking from left right, And that

682
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.639
is the closest thing I can that I can Harley

683
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:59.159
Hoffman's bigfoot. It looked like that, but it was walking

684
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.599
from left to write. And so later I asked my

685
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.599
ex husband, I said how, I said, you know that

686
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.760
those big dirt calls you have down there where you're

687
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.559
building your house And he said yeah, And I said

688
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.239
how tall would you think those are? And he said,

689
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.440
I think they're about five and a half to six

690
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.920
foot well, and I said, I'm just wondered. And so

691
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.199
because I could see.

692
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:26.519
Like probably shoulder neck and head walking to the right.

693
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.719
I figured that it was probably at least seven to

694
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.679
eight foot tall. But it looked like the Harley Hoffman Bigfoot.

695
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.079
It didn't look like Patty, it didn't look like a

696
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.599
lot of these other ones that people post pictures of.

697
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.519
It looked like the Harley Hoffman one. That's so that's

698
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:54.239
that's what that like. So also let's see So as

699
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.079
I was, I think I mentioned to you that my

700
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.599
I sleep with my windows open year round because the

701
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.440
air conditioner freezes me in the summer and it burnt

702
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.119
and the heat burns me out in the winter. So

703
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.480
I even with my vents closed, I have to sleep

704
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:14.360
with my windows open. So one night I was laying

705
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.880
here and I got woke up by something in the

706
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.079
driveway and it was this deep male kind of voice,

707
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.440
and it was going ho we ho we and it

708
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.039
was like saying that. And I don't know if it

709
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:32.280
was saying hurry or ho wey, but I could hear

710
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.480
this thing saying ho wee. And I jumped up and

711
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.000
I ran across the room and I was like looking outside,

712
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.760
and of course it's pitch black, and I can't see

713
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.480
a darn thing. And and so you know, I was like,

714
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:48.000
oh my gosh, that is just crazy. And then probably

715
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.000
I don't know, two or three weeks, maybe four weeks

716
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:56.119
after that, I was in bed and then I got

717
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:56.760
woke up.

718
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.320
By something saying.

719
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.840
It was like a female voice, and it was going

720
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.440
and this is exactly what it said. It said, pop

721
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:10.199
pop pom pop, like you would tell a little kid,

722
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.440
come on, come on, you know.

723
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.960
Like like a like a kid that's like kind of

724
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.159
stopping to look at something and you're trying to hurry

725
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.079
up and do something or go somewhere or whatever, and

726
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:22.360
the kid's not paying attention.

727
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.840
It sounded like she was telling this kid come on,

728
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:27.440
but she was actually.

729
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:28.880
Saying pup pong poop pole.

730
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.079
And that was like a really really really weird thing.

731
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.280
I got up right across the room again. And of course,

732
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.840
you know, we have all of our trucks in the driveway,

733
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.440
so in any and being pitch black and everything, you know,

734
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.159
there's there's quite a bit of cover for something to hide,

735
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.559
you know. And one night, one night, I was just

736
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.239
sitting here at my desk and I heard something go

737
00:41:55.239 --> 00:42:02.400
go who who who me ow? And I I just

738
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.000
these are these are just the craziest things. And it's

739
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.559
like some of the stuff I hear just it absolutely

740
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:09.320
blows my mind.

741
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.400
So when you hear that, is it like something is

742
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:18.599
what what's the voice of what's doing? Like the yow

743
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.760
and and that that you're hearing.

744
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:27.400
It's the the who who who mew? Sounds like a

745
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:32.360
human trying to imitate an owl? Okay, but at the

746
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.920
end it says but and I only heard that one

747
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.119
one time. But at the end it says me out

748
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.559
it says, who who who mew?

749
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.679
Oh my god, this is this is wild? How recent

750
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:46.599
is all this happening.

751
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.320
Let's see the the male and the female that the

752
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.960
guy that or the male that was saying ho we

753
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.719
ho we yeah, and the female that was saying poo

754
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:06.320
boom poooo. They that was probably uh two.

755
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.400
Maybe three years ago.

756
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.679
And the owl sound was probably two weeks ago.

757
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:17.320
Oh wow. And so also you have full size adults

758
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.480
on this property, not just juveniles. It sounds like right,

759
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:22.400
oh wow.

760
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.159
Okay, yeah.

761
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.760
And there's times I sit on the porch I love

762
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:28.920
I'm just one of those kids. You can't get them

763
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.639
in the house, you know, I know, I'm not a

764
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:31.559
kid at sixty two.

765
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.280
But I'm not you.

766
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.159
All my life, I've been one of those people that

767
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:38.880
I just I love being outside.

768
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:40.760
I love, love, love being outside.

769
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:43.920
I will garden, I will do anything outside. I just

770
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:45.960
want to be outside all day. And so I'll go

771
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.800
out and I'll sit on the porch during the day

772
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:51.719
and just enjoy the birds and the everything.

773
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.079
You know. I just love being outside.

774
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:59.559
And sometimes I can hear like like to the south

775
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:05.199
of the I can hear like whistling and it's not

776
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.599
I mean, it's almost it's almost like a tune, but

777
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.360
no tune that I know. And to the north of me,

778
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.360
on the other side of the porch, to the north

779
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.880
of me, I hear like chattering down in our creek.

780
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:21.000
And when I jump up.

781
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.599
And I grab my camera and I run to the

782
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.119
end of the porch and I turn it on, I

783
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.239
don't hear anything else. And it's like I wait, no, wait,

784
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.280
no wait, and I don't catch anything else. It's just

785
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.920
sometimes there's just something that just happens that you just

786
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.000
you know, you don't have time, you don't know what's coming,

787
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:38.760
so you don't have time to turn on your camera,

788
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.639
you don't have time to record it. You know some

789
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:45.000
of that kind of stuff. But and then there was

790
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.239
one time I was walking down to feed the chickens.

791
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.199
I think the side by side was getting worked one

792
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.360
and I didn't have any wasn't able.

793
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:53.639
To drive it.

794
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.239
So I was walking down there and when I got

795
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.960
to the part where and this is about the same place,

796
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:06.039
so I recorded all that rock clacking there was, and

797
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.480
I'll tell you about that in a minute, if we

798
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.760
have time. And so anyway, I got down there and

799
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.199
I had a telepathic mind speak kind of message that

800
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.000
said look up.

801
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:15.480
In the trees.

802
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.480
And I was like, what trees? And you know, because

803
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.880
we're surrounded by trees, and I didn't know. I didn't

804
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:26.400
know what it meant. I didn't know why something told

805
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.119
me to look up in the trees. And it was

806
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.760
a very very clear voice, and it was a male voice.

807
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.119
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

808
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.599
And so, you know, that kind of bothered me for

809
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:59.639
a while. But the next day on the next door

810
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.559
one of our neighbors said she saw a mountain lion

811
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.280
on our streets. So is it possible the mountain lion

812
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.320
like the day before when I was told look up

813
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.039
in the trees, is it possible that maybe there was

814
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.199
a mountain line up in the trees and something told

815
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.360
me to look up in the trees. I'd never saw anything,

816
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.039
and I don't know what it was, and I don't

817
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.599
know why I had that message.

818
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:25.400
I haven't had anything.

819
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.760
Like that ever before, and I have not had anything

820
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.440
like that since, so I have no idea what that was.

821
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:39.000
But anyway, there so there was another thing that happened.

822
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.519
So I would take on Skype. I would turn on

823
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.559
my camera and my friend Mark over in England, who

824
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.599
is my business partner, we would he would walk with

825
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.519
me and we would talk about all kinds of things,

826
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.840
and I had he would go with me like kind

827
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.039
of moral support because I was afraid to go down

828
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.079
there by myself after all of these things were, you know,

829
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.519
were happening and everything. I was just afraid to go alone.

830
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:06.840
But you know, I didn't take a weapon. I didn't,

831
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.320
you know, it was just praying everything was okay. And

832
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.320
I was actually saying down there when I would get there,

833
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.239
I'm only here to feed my chickens.

834
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.760
I don't want any problems.

835
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.719
If you please leave me alone and don't bother me,

836
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.400
I won't bother you. I just want to feed my

837
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.880
chickens and go home. I used to have to say

838
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.920
that all the time. And so anyway, Mark would go

839
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:33.519
with me, and I had these blue water barrels and

840
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:36.519
I would prop my cell phone up on there where

841
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.239
he had a clear view of me while I'm while

842
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.079
I'm feeding the chickens and stuff and getting their water,

843
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.440
and there was a So I did all of that,

844
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:49.920
did all the feeding, get all the watering, and then

845
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:51.840
I went around to get my phone back, and my

846
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:53.760
friend Mark goes, who's that guy?

847
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.239
And I was like, what guy?

848
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:58.800
And he goes, you didn't see that guy standing over

849
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:01.679
there looking at your little pig? And I said, no,

850
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.360
what guy? He goes, well, he had gray hair and

851
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.000
it was kind of fuzzy around his neck, and he

852
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.000
had it was kind of fuzzy. His hair was flat

853
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:14.760
on the top like he had been wearing like a

854
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.480
baseball cap or something, and it like, you know, he

855
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:19.800
took it off and then he had the kind of

856
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:21.400
the flat hair on the top and it was kind

857
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.559
of fluffy around the bottoms. And he told me everything

858
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:27.039
the guy was wearing. And the guy was just like

859
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:31.480
really interested in the pigs. Those two little pigs little

860
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.599
baby pigs, and he was just standing there staring at him,

861
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.960
and I just got the creepiest feeling, and so I

862
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.079
got back up to the house as fast.

863
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.519
As I could. And then.

864
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:48.559
And then that night, my ex husband comes home and

865
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.719
he comes through the gate and he said, who loved

866
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:56.320
that watermelon at the front gate? And I said, I

867
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.480
don't know what watermelon? I said, I haven't seen a

868
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.960
watermelon there. He goes, I said there was a I said,

869
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.719
Mark saw a guy down at the uh down at

870
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.920
the coop while I was feeding the feeding the pigs

871
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:13.559
and chickens. And I said, but I don't know anything

872
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.960
about a you know. He goes, well, somebody now knows

873
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.159
we have pigs here, he said, you know, because they

874
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.719
brought a watermelon and they put it at the front

875
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.320
gate for us to feed the pigs, obviously, And I

876
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.960
was like, I don't know. So I went down the

877
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:29.760
next morning, I get up, I go and I look

878
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.519
at it and it's and my ex husband had moved

879
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:34.280
it out of the way over to the side of

880
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.079
the gate so that it wouldn't.

881
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:38.199
So that it.

882
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.000
Wouldn't, you know, he wouldn't run over it with the

883
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:44.360
truck and make a mess and so, and I had

884
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:46.880
a trail cam down there by the way too, which

885
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.719
didn't pick up anybody putting it, putting it there at

886
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:58.079
the front gate. And the next night I had the

887
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.039
trail came on, you know, going so that I I

888
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.239
could see, you know, more about the watermelon. But anyway,

889
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.639
from the hours of ten pm to one am, it

890
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:17.039
doesn't record anything. But by the morning, the watermelon is gone.

891
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.360
So something with hands probably walked over there and picked

892
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.880
up that whole. It was one of those long watermelons,

893
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.760
so it picked up that half a watermelon. It was

894
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.800
somebody had ate it apparently, But and then it was gone,

895
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:36.480
and my trail cam did not record for three hours.

896
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.880
I mean it catches every car going by. And my

897
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.480
son ever since, ever since a lot of this stuff

898
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.880
has happened. My son has covered this place with those

899
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:50.480
little with those little cameras that you can just record

900
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.639
all kinds of stuff. It's not trail cam stuff. It's

901
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.320
like the real cameras. So we have those all over.

902
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:58.760
We have them on the chicken coops. We have two

903
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.119
of the chicken coops on different sides. We have them

904
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.800
on the ponds, we have them at our garage. On

905
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:05.880
our front porch at our gate and we we have

906
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.719
we've we've really really put a lot of cameras up

907
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:12.239
and so.

908
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:19.880
Anyway, sorry real quick. Did Mark say if what he

909
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:21.679
saw was wearing clothes or not?

910
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.400
Yep, he said it was.

911
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.320
He was the guy was wearing like a pair of

912
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.800
khaki colored pants and a and a blue like a

913
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:33.719
blue windbreaker.

914
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:35.280
This is weird, okay.

915
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:40.079
Yeah, And it's like suddenly a watermelon appears out of

916
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.239
nowhere at the front gate because somebody knows now that

917
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:47.360
we that we have little pigs or raising and uh

918
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.960
so that was just, you know, another one of those

919
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:51.880
really really really weird things.

920
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.000
And uh, there was another time.

921
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:58.480
My son was sometimes he sits on the front porch

922
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.480
and he plays guitar and uh stuff at night in

923
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.880
the dark. He just likes that for some reason. But

924
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:08.639
still relaxing. But so one night he was gonna pee

925
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.719
off the front porch and our garage is like around

926
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:17.039
the corner, and so there he saw a black figure

927
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.960
walking up our up from our dry what do you

928
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:29.519
call it where you park your the parking concrete park, Yeah,

929
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:33.320
but it's just the concrete slab. So where the truck's

930
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.199
park anyway, next to that, there's like a there's probably

931
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:39.960
like a heel that's three or four foot tall that

932
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:43.639
we have some we have some trees on for like

933
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:48.400
landscaping kind of stuff. And so he looked over and

934
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.559
he saw a black figure walking up that little hill

935
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:59.199
over here by the garage, and so he he was

936
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.880
like freaked out. And he's had he's had like lots

937
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.880
of experiences too, like he will go out and he'll

938
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.039
start the smoker and he will get he will get

939
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.599
up to every two hours all night long, and he'll

940
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:14.239
start what do you call it, like turning the turning

941
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.199
like a brisket or something like every two hours all

942
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:23.159
night long to cook it. And he's been outside and

943
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:24.199
he's heard things.

944
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:26.800
He's heard things out in the woods. Go help me,

945
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.239
help me, help me.

946
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.119
He's he's had some really weird things happening to him too.

947
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:40.920
So but let's see another time. I was when we

948
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:44.039
first moved into the house. I had my little dog

949
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:48.360
here and I was taking him out one last time

950
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:50.719
out in the dark. Before you know, we go to bed,

951
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.960
and all of a sudden, this great, big, huge oak

952
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.800
tree in the front yard just starts violently thrashing and

953
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.639
it is just going crazy and it was loud, and

954
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.480
it was it was just violently thrashing, and me and

955
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.280
that dog, I was stepping on that dog trying to

956
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.199
get in the house and trying to get the door open,

957
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:13.920
and just I mean we were gonners, me and me

958
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:14.480
and my dog.

959
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.800
But anyway, we never.

960
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:19.760
Saw what it was because it was just kind of

961
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:26.719
pitch black outside. But that was another another really scary thing.

962
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:31.480
There was another time when Mark was with me on

963
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.840
the phone when I was feeding and I was just

964
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.760
I just opened up the run on the opened up

965
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.840
the door or the gate on the chicken run and

966
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:44.440
I glanced up and probably I would say one hundred

967
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:47.519
and fifty to two hundred and feet from me, there

968
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:48.280
was this.

969
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:52.960
Big, tall being and we.

970
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.840
Looked at each other, and it looked at me, and

971
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:58.960
I looked at it, and suddenly it did this big

972
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:03.960
swan dive right behind a big pile of brush, and

973
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:06.880
I could not get out of there fast enough. I

974
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.000
tell I was telling Mark about it, and I was like, oh,

975
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:11.639
my gosh, I wish you could have just saw what

976
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:13.159
I saw. And He's like, what you say? And I

977
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.519
was like, there was this big, tall, white thing and

978
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.920
it was just standing there. It was standing there, it

979
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:21.000
was by those by that big brush file, and I said, suddenly,

980
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:23.599
it just it just looked at me, and I looked

981
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:26.400
at it and we mad eyes and it just it

982
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:29.079
just did a swan dive behind this big, huge brush

983
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.760
pile of trees. And that was That was another one

984
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:38.360
that was just really really scary. And uh so other

985
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.599
than I've had I've recorded rock clacking. Something about the

986
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:46.880
rock rock clacking videos that I sent you, something about

987
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.199
it makes me think that it's doing that. It's not

988
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:53.519
actually rock clacking, but it's something with a mouth. It

989
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.559
just has that has a real strange sound to it,

990
00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:59.880
like it's a mouth making a noise. And later when

991
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:02.280
you get around and you want to listen to that,

992
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.039
maybe you can see what you think. I don't know,

993
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.000
I'm I'm not really sure.

994
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:15.360
Yeah. I listened to it earlier and it almost what

995
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:21.239
I got from it was it was almost like you

996
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.719
know how you have someone trying to make a like

997
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.400
a stone tool and you're like chipping away at the

998
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.280
edges of something. Yeah, I was kind of getting those vibes.

999
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.840
But I'm gonna definitely listen to it again. With that viewpoint,

1000
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:36.360
because that's very interesting.

1001
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.400
Yeah, it could be something with a mouth, or it

1002
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.679
is or it's the rock clacking. And we have some

1003
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.960
really big, huge rocks over you can kind of see

1004
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.159
some of them along the front of the road, like

1005
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.079
where I stopped. I would turn left and go down

1006
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.000
to feed the chickens. But that was kind of the

1007
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.159
tea in the road where I just kind of, you know,

1008
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.239
stopped and I was like, what the heck is that?

1009
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:02.039
You know? So anyway, I say, I already told you

1010
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.800
about those little kid footprints. Oh and one day I

1011
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:10.039
was I came out the garage door and I looked

1012
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.960
over to my left and I saw this big, fat

1013
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:17.280
black thing running on all fours And my first I mean,

1014
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.079
it's like I thought I was looking at a bear, Like,

1015
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:22.920
you know, my brain goes, is that a bear? And

1016
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.480
so I know we don't have we don't have bear

1017
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.039
in this area. And I mean, can they come across

1018
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.400
the river from Oklahoma? Sure, but it's like nothing those

1019
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.920
but it's not reported here like it is down at

1020
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:43.199
Lake Texoma. Right, so because they have them down there,

1021
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:44.559
we don't usually have them here.

1022
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.039
But I really don't know what it was.

1023
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:49.079
I know it wasn't a pig or a wild hog,

1024
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:54.159
you know, because it just didn't look like a hog.

1025
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:58.159
I've seen hogs and i've seen them, I've seen bear,

1026
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.079
but you know, looking back and thinking about it, I

1027
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.119
really don't even think it was a bear. So whatever

1028
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.440
it was, I really don't know. I just know it

1029
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:09.159
was big and it was fat, and it was running

1030
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.039
on off worse. So not a bear, not a pig.

1031
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:16.119
Do you have neighbors that are do you? I guess

1032
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:18.159
do you even have neighbors close to this property? Are

1033
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.239
you guys pretty far out there?

1034
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:22.920
We have down our street.

1035
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.280
We've got we have the sheriff and his wife, and

1036
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:29.920
then we have a few other people. They're kind of

1037
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.599
kind of like kind of like twenty thirty fifty one

1038
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:40.320
hundred acre you know, ranches that I was going to

1039
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.760
tell you too. Some like another time, like when I'm

1040
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.960
sleeping with my windows open, I can hear people up

1041
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.800
shooting in the dark two or three four o'clock in

1042
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.840
the morning, and I'm getting that one, what are they

1043
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:54.599
shooting at? You know, because it's pretty loud and I

1044
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.639
hear people, you know, shooting, and I have no idea

1045
00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:58.480
what they're shooting at.

1046
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.360
And that you know, I hear all.

1047
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:05.320
Kinds of crazy noises out there and I never know

1048
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:09.159
what they are. I don't know if I meant I

1049
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:12.639
have a friend. I have a friend down in San Antonio,

1050
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:14.599
and I sent him some of my audios that I

1051
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:16.559
have and he goes, you know what, You've got a hyena.

1052
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.400
And I was like, I don't think so, because that

1053
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:21.719
is a hyena. Because I'm telling you, I've seen them

1054
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.840
down here in San Antonio and I've recorded hyena's down here,

1055
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:30.280
he said. Even the people that owns this one hundred

1056
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.440
acres that I live on, he says, they've seen hyena

1057
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:36.679
down here. And I was like, oh my gosh, I

1058
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:38.440
never thought of it being a hyena.

1059
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.119
And he goes, that's a hyena. I'm telling you, that's

1060
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:40.559
a hyena.

1061
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.400
I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you,

1062
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.760
truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1063
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.519
Debra's story isn't just spooky, it's haunting, not because of

1064
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.199
what she saw, but because of what saw her again

1065
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.239
and again. So huge thanks to Debrah for her courage

1066
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.599
and sharing these deeply personal and intense experiences from the

1067
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.199
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1075
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