"The Tremblay Files: Investigating Arizona's Bigfoot, Hyena Dogman, and the Enigma of Skinwalkers"

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I'm looking like, what is this
because it seems like a really tall human,

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about six and a half feet tall. When the lights hit what was

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back there? It wasn't a human, that wasn't a mountain lioned. It

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was something that looked distinctly hyena.
So I'm looking at this and I'm like,

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there's no hyenas in Arizona. It
sees me that's staring me right in

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the eyes. Then it suddenly charges
forward about three feet and it stops on

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a dime, and I'm frozen and
terror at dispoint the things staring at me,

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and it stands up and I hear
this a loud pop as it reaches

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its arms up and it grabs a
branch and it just sits there, staring

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at me. And in the lights, I can see its ears going up

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and down. Its head is moving
side to side, like I can see

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its lips moving up and down.
I can see its nostrils moving. It

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starts to back away, but it's
keeping me in. It's a line of

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sight. It's got its body tilted. Its eyes are right on me,

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but it's got its body curve so
it can walk away. I watch it

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walk away, and it goes down
the Hill into the river bed. Either

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Big for Society got the privilege of
talking to mister Ryan Trembley. He's a

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gentleman that I've been meeting to talk
to for a while, but I'm so

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glad that he's on the show today. How's it going, Ryan, It's

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going really well. Man. It's
been a busy week, but I am

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still functioning at full operations. Awesome. And to let the listeners know you

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are a researcher and also an artist, which is a very cool combination.

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Oh very much. I get to
combine cryptids with my art and make some

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really cool stuff. That's fantastic.
And let's chat about So how did you

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get into cryptis? What's your origin
story when it comes to being involved and

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researching all the different cryptids. I
grew up as a monster kid. My

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dad was a big monster fan,
so he introduced me to Universal Monsters,

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Creature from the Black Lagoon, Wolfman, Frankenstein, and that became a staple.

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You know, every single day I
was watching a different monster movie.

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And of course I'm a huge Godzilla
and Gamera fan no pun intended, So

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monsters are part of my everyday life. But when I was seven, my

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dad sat me down to watch the
Patterson Gimlin film and I think with a

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lot of enthusiasts, that was really
the diving board for us. That's what

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really got us into it. So
we dove into this subject and it was

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just took off from there. That's
awesome. That on an in search of

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or anything that you remember, Yeah, it was with Leonard Nimoy. Remember

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the show that Leonard Nimoy had,
Absolutely it was. Yeah, So I

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was introduced to that film with Leonard
Nimoy's voice, and I was just hooked.

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That was it. The minute I
watched that, I was like,

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Oh, my goodness, there's something
in the woods. I'm gonna find it.

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That's awesome. We had a very
similar experience, for sure. I

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remember seeing that in the same exact
show and then being like looking around and

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being like, why isn't everyone else
freaking out about this? Yeah? I

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couldn't figure it out. Young Ryan
was sitting here going, how come everybody's

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sitting in the living room and not
going out in the woods looking for Patty?

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What's going on here? So my
dad told me study research and get

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out in those woods and look,
Oh, exactly exactly. We had talked

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about your home base of research.
But have you always been in Have you

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always been in the southwest of the
US? No? Actually, I grew

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up in Massachusetts. Oh. I
was surround by woods everywhere. As a

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young boy that was into monsters like
this, there was plenty of trees and

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everything for me to climb and water, wilderness to go and explore. And

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at that young age, every noise
was a big foot. But hear a

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branch fall and I was like,
oh, there's Bigfoot. What part of

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mass did you grow up in.
I lived in Southbridge, I lived in

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Charlton, and for a brief time
I lived in Wisser. Okay, cool.

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Cool. So you were kind of
on the eastern side of the state.

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Correct, very cool. Yeah,
I grew up on the western Western

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Mass over near Northfield. Oh I've
been there, Okay, Yeah, Franklin

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County and we got some Yeah,
you go out in the woods out there,

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and yeah, you were definitely growing
up in a very interesting state for

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Bigfoot. I wasn't in told yet, I was growing up to the point

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where I was going out in the
woods yet. That came later. But

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yeah, definitely Western Mass That is
a cool connection that we have. Yeah,

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when I was twelve, my dad
actually took me to Dover, mass

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because of the Dover Demon. I
actually got to see the wall where they

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had cited the Dover Demon. Originally. He just provoked my love for CRYPTI.

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It's all he could. That is
really cool. Did you ever go

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up to America's Stonehenge up in New
Hampshire. I didn't know. I didn't

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make it that far, but some
day off on my popyl list. Definitely

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check it out. It's a weird
stones lined up with the equinoxes and all

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this weird stuff. It's very interesting. But ran a few people started dropping

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your name in different messages after I
started talking about to give people a little

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bit of backstory credit where credit is
due, of course. Cryptids Are the

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Corn podcast released a episode about hyenas, how they are seen around different places

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of North America and how they could
actually be some of the dog Man sightings,

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and it was just a fascinating episode. If you haven't listened to it,

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I would recommend all listeners go listen
to. I'll have the link in

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the show notes. But a lot
of people started contacting me and they were

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like, you need to talk to
Ryan because he's had a very interesting account

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and an encounter that you might be
interested in if you're looking into that as

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well. Oh yes, yeah,
I assured it, and it's something that

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I have never ever forgotten. I
don't think I ever will. Would you

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be able to share that on the
show tonight. Absolutely, I can go

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right into it if you'd like,
Absolutely, let's go for it. It

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happened about three years ago, and
it's funny in October because it happened in

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October. But a friend of mine
and his wife. They were going away

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on vacation, so I was asked
the house sit for them, and what

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I would do is I would go
in the morning. I'd go in the

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afternoon. I had a late night
trip that I would take about midnight,

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and that would be my final checkup
for the day. And on this particular

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night, when I was going up
about midnight, maybe a little bit later,

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I noticed that the coyotes in the
surrounding area, they sounded really nervous.

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And if you've ever been around coyotes
before, they have a very distinct

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cry when they're on the hunt.
But this night, they actually really sounded

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like they were scared. And I
didn't really pay much mind to it.

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I just figured there was maybe another
pack that was rivaling them out there,

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and so I was just I continued
my way up to my friend's backyard,

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and he has a driveway that kind
of curls around to the back, so

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I was walking alongside that and nothing
unusual was happening. But as I got

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closer to the back, I noticed
this really pungent odor. And the only

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way I can describe this is like
feces urine, body sweat and rotting meat.

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Okay, Now, in my mind
this was maybe roadkill. So again

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I paid no real mind to this. But as I'm venturing further into the

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back, I noticed there's something moving
around. I can hear something or somebody

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moving about. Now, he lived
near riverbeds, and in that part of

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the town where we lived in there
was a lot of homeless people, so

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I thought maybe it was a vagrant
trying to creep onto his property. In

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me, being only five nine,
I figured it's time to go into defense

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mode. So I puff up my
chest, I make my arms stiff and

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rigid, and I go and it
goes completely quiet. So I keep continuing

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along my way, and again I
hear the noises of something making very heavy

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footsteps. So again I stop in
my place and I just go away.

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This time, Jeremiah, it wasn't
silence that I was met with. It

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was a very deep, resonating grell
that I could feel in my chest and

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I felt like my bones, like
my rib cage was vibrating, and it

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stunned me. For a minute.
I didn't know what this was, so

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I thought maybe a bear. But
then logical brain kicked in said there's no

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bears in this part of Arizona.
So then it went to mountain lion.

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But the thing is, this didn't
sound like a mountain lion growl. They

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have a very distinct growl. So
I just kept going forward into the backyard,

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and that's when I noticed there was
something moving right in his backyard where

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the tree line was, and so
I stopped and I'm looking like, what

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is this because it seemed like a
really tall human, about maybe six six

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and a half feet tall, Okay, And what happened is the security lights

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in the back clicked on and when
the lights hit what was a back there,

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Jamia. It wasn't a human,
it wasn't a mountain lion. It

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was something that looked distinctly hyena.
So I'm looking at this and I'm like,

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there's no hyenas in Arizona. What
is this thing? And I'm I'm

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scared because I see what looks just
like a hyena and it sees me.

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I can see its eyes fixed right
on my eyes. It's staring me right

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in the eyes. And nothing happens
for a brief moment, but then it

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suddenly charges forward about three feet and
it just it stops on a dime and

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I'm frozen and tarr at this point, I'm just I'm not gonna move.

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I'm not gonna get it even and
the thing staring at me, and it

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stands up, and I hear this
a loud pop as it reaches its arms

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up and it grabs a branch and
it just sits there, staring at me,

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and in the lights, I can
see its ears going up and down.

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Its head is moving side to side
like a curious dog would do.

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And I'm just I'm trying to figure
out what am I looking at. This

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can't be a hyaena, but what
is this thing? And I'm just I'm

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not moving. I'm not going to
run, and it keeps staring at me,

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and just I can see its lips
moving up and down. I can

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see its nostrils moving, and then
finally it starts to back away, very

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slowly, but it's keeping me in
it's a line of sight, so it's

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got its body tilted so its eyes
are right on me, but it's got

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its body curve so it can walk
away. I watch it walk away and

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it goes down the hill into the
riverbed. And the minute it's out of

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sight, man, I had rockets
in my shoes. I'm running up the

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stairs at my friend's house. I'm
locking all his doors, I'm bolting his

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windows, and I'm opening his kitchen
drawers looking for knives. And I call

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him up and I was like,
is there something you're not telling me?

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Man, there's a hyena in your
backyard. And he thinks I'm crazy.

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He's like, there's no hyenas in
Arizona. Ryan this so whatever you saw,

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it wasn't a hyena. And that
clicked with me. I'm thinking,

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all right, it wasn't a hyaena, but what was it? So I

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started looking into Linda Godfrey's work and
I read that some people had seen bipedal

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hyenas, and right there that's when
I knew. I saw a dog man.

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That's incredible. A bipedal Wow,
Oh my goodness. Do you mind

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if I ask you some questions about
that fire away? Okay? What were

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the finding features that you saw that
made you think, oh, this is

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a hyaena When you looked at the
creature? The mean things that said hyena

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to me were the shape of the
snout, the squareness of the head,

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the roundness of the ears, and
the long neck that it had. Okay,

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was there anything how was so if
you look at an action hyena,

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they have that characteristic slope, right, Was there anything like that was built

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into the creature at all? Oh
yeah, definitely. Most definitely when it

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was on two legs, when it
was standing up, I could see that

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it had that slope going on,
and it had the little toughs of fur

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ring along the back. Very interesting. Was there any kind of pattern?

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Yeah, oh yeah. It definitely
had the spots that you would see with

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a spotted hyena. It had that
kind of thing, and it had the

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like a caramel color to its fur. Interesting, there was. I've gotten

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a few emails, as I would
guess that you have in this. One

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listener asked me this. He brought
up this where it's like he brought up

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the point whereas if there's stripes on
it. I think he said, if

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there's stripes on it, then that
is indicative of more of an extinct hyena

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that would be that lived in North
America a long time ago. And I

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was like, oh, that's fascinating. Yeah. I did speak to Ken

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Gearhart sometime back about this, and
he thought maybe it was one of those

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prehistoric hyenas as well. You know, Oh, no, definitely not.

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How did you after you had this
sighting? Were what was your thinking after

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that? Did it take weeks to
try to work through what you saw or

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how was your internal monologue after you
saw this. I was actually convinced that

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I was crazy because I knew hyenas
aren't in Arizona. But I was also

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afraid so going out and taking the
trash out at night, or even walking

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my dog at night. I was
convinced that when I went around a corner

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or anywhere where there was a lot
of trees, this thing was going to

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be right there. So it took
me a long time where I had to

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just sit and accept what I saw. I had to read the stories of

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other people that saw something similar to
you. I wasn't crazy, and I

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had to reassure myself that no,
it's not going to be hunting you,

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it's not going to be coming after
you. You have to be calm and

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logical about this. But it took
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want to go outside again. Wow, this is a topic where it's not

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the main topic I look into.
It's become like a almost a side quest

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in a way. And I will
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why right now, but it may
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quest as if you continue to listen
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bit. But it's just it's such
a fascinating topic. And I'm sure it

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sounds like you've read the books you've
talked to people. Have there been other

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sightings of creatures that look like bipedal
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you've heard of. Yeah, Actually
there was more in the town that I

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was living in. Because once I
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I wanted answers, I started going
around and looking for clues. I would

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investigate the hills and the valleys we
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And what happened is one time when
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caupong this dirt mound. It was
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and sand. We'll be back with
more Bigfoot Society after these words from our

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sponsors. And it was a staircase
that was leading up to a silver platter

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with exotic fruits on it. And
by exotic, I mean like Kiwi pineapple

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blueberries, but there was no signs
of like quail or rabbits nearby, so

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I was wondering, why would they
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of the desert. So I left
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leave a note asking the people what
are you feeding? So I left the

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know under the platter and I came
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my surprise, here Amaia, there
was a drawing. Somebody said, we're

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feeding these and I drew a picture
of a bipedal hyena. So that right

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there was like, Okay, somebody
else in this town has seen them as

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well, they know they're here.
Oh boy. Yeah, So that really

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got me very very curious because somebody
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I did. So I wasn't crazy, jeremah, I had seen something.

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I'm like, yes, this is
what I needed. Oh man, so

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that's like you have Oh that's got
to be incredible having seen something and then

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getting that someone else's experienced this is
actually real and I didn't just yeah,

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I felt like there was a weight
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nuts, I wasn't insane. Somebody
who doesn't even know me had seen the

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same thing that I did. Wow, did you ever get any any different

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kind of communication with these people that
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just a one off note back and
it was just a one off note.

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I think what happened is they didn't
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the feeling from the way they drew
these things that they actually care for them,

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that they're trying to habituate them and
domesticate them. So I think there's

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some kind of attachment there, and
they weren't sure what my intentions were.

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That was let down in a way. But like I said, I still

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walked away going, oh hallelujah,
somebody else saw the same thing I did.

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This is awesome. Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think just based off

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of what you know, do you
think it's a smart idea to try to

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do what these people are doing where
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No? I really don't, because
there's so many factors to put in

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here, Jeremiah, Like what happens
if they get so used to you feeding

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them and then behold you miss a
day? Are they going to get irritated

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and angry and come looking for you. Are they going to think your kid

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is food your pet. I don't
think it's a good idea. I think

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there's a lot of dangers to take
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Yeah, very close to how I
think about when I think about people leaving

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food out from Bigfoot, and it's
just like filling the blank with any other

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large predator if they get used to
food, and then you are the person

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who doesn't give them food, not
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and turn it where it to rely
on you, because it'll lose that hunting

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capability and you don't want that to
happen. Yeah, good point. Good

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point. Did you ever try talking
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about it? I did. Most
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But there was a guy who was
a neighbor of mine. Actually he was

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a retired police officer, and when
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didn't really say one way or the
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his body language, I got the
feeling that he too saw some stuff,

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you know, because he didn't do
that whole Oh, those things aren't real.

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You didn't see what you think you
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know, Ryan, I know.
So it did make me wonder, did

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he see something wow? And the
place where you originally saw it, was

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it ever seen again at that No, but it was seen just a few

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miles away, because when I went
out investigating on another day, I actually

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came across a guy who was a
paranormal investigator, ironically enough, and I

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told him, you've got to be
really careful in this area. There's a

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lot of wildlife. And he just
looks me right in the eyes, tear

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in my eye and he's like,
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And that got my curiosity because that's
a normal response. So I'm like,

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what do you mean, what are
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I saw something a few nights ago, and he's like, I'm gonna

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share it with you, so don't
think I'm crazy. So I played along.

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He told me how he saw two
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and an infant feeding on a dead
have olina. So again I got confirmation

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that I wasn't nuts that I did
see this by pedal hyena because other people

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had seen it too, And for
listeners who aren't familiar with wildlife from that

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area. Have Alna is a type
of pig. Correct, It's a very

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angry pig, though, it's one
that you don't want to mess with.

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Okay, fair enough. So you've
got multiple sightings of this creature, and

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more than one creature in a sounds
like a small region or within miles of

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each other. It sounds like,
yeah, it's a very small town.

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Any encounters are close by, so
obviously whatever these things are, they staked

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turf in that town, I think. And it would make sense though,

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because there's a lot of abandoned mines
because it's a mining town, so there's

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shelter, and there's plenty of game, and there's plenty of water too,

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so really it was ideal for these
things to live there. Wow, have

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youked the Is there like a newspaper
archive of the town or the area?

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Yeah? Oh, there's any weird
things in the old newspapers. Yeah.

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In fact, there's a museum that
was not too far from where I was

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actually living, and in the newspapers
I had there, they did talk about

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how they were seeing strange wildlife that
didn't quite belong and some of the way

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they described it sound like they were
describing hyenas. Really it, can you

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elaborate on what I know? When
there's old articles about Bigfoot in the eighteen

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hundreds, they sometimes they say things
like wild man, and you have to

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connect the Dodgs type thing. Is
that the same thing when you're talking about

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hyenas slash dog man in old newspapers
more or less? But they were talking

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about how there was like wild dog
attacks, but then certain residents would go

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on to describe them as not really
dogs, but they couldn't place what kind

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of animal they were. Now living
out in the desert, You're going to

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know coyotes, okay, You're going
to know even wolves, even as rare

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as that is to see them in
that town. You're going to know what

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they are. It's not going to
leave any room for confusion. But these

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people were genuinely confused by what they
were seeing. They described spots and everything.

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So I'm going, wait a minute, did they see these things?

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Wow? Do you have a book
about this, Ryan? No, but

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I am working on one, Okay, I just like you probably need to

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have one. That's awesome, dude, Wow, how many years have you

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been researching this in that area?
Dog Man? It's about three years now,

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but altogether twenty years. I was
researching up at Mount Lemon in Arizona.

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I've been in Tucson doing investigations down
there. I've been to Phoenix,

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flag Staff. I've been all over
Arizona doing this stuff. Have you found

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that there's so Excuse my ignorance,
because I'm trying to learn about this topic,

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right, so I'm not really aware
of Arizona. Is Arizona have quite

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a few sightings of dog Man in
that state? Then? Oh yes,

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But we also have our own big
Foot, the Mogion Monster from the Mobion

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Rim. I'm sure you're familiar with
that one. Yes, And I've been

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to the Mogion Rim and oh man, it's such a beautiful places. It

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looks so beautiful. If you don't
know about what it looks like, you

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got to look it up. Because
people when they hear Arizona, I think

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they're thinking desert man. You look
at the Moggian Rim and it is forested,

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beautiful, and yeah, you can
definitely see how a Bigfoot type creature

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would be living in that environment as
well. Oh definitely. That's why when

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people say, oh, Ryan,
that's crazy. Bigfoot can't live out there.

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There's no water or trees. I'm
like, are you sure about that?

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Yeah? I put it right up
there with people that say Bigfoot can't

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live in Oklahoma. You don't really
know what Oklahoma is. I'm curious why

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can Bigfoot not live in Oklahoma?
What is there attacks for a living there

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or what? They just don't know
about how the southeast part of the state

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is extremely okay, so they can
fall for the stereotypes. Then exactly,

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exactly, all right, I got
you. So going back to Arizona and

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dog Man, I know of places
like Texas and you've got the work of

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Aarondese and he's done that the dog
Man triangle. But it sounds like they

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are multiple different areas in Arizona where
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US. Oh yeah, Tucson,
you'd be surprised even though it's a city.

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A lot of people have seen dog
Man and Tucson as well. These

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encounters are happening all over Arizona,
all over Arizona. I think people need

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to start looking into that because there's
something to it. Have all these encounters

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have they all looked like hyenas then? Or are there different ways that dog

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Man look like with Bigfoot, there's
different almost versions of them. That's with

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big Qui. I do run into
those encounters that are very different. They're

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like the dogsoldier type, or they
have a German shepherd type, but a

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lot of them are a hyena type. And I was saying to somebody a

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long time ago, if people are
seeing a lot of these hyenas, then

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we need to start looking into what
it is about Arizona where the hyena type

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are more abundant. There has to
be some kind of answer to that question.

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Is it the fauna and flora of
this place? Is it the layout

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of the land. What is it
that's bringing a hyena type to Arizona?

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And if you look at the place
Arizona in general, it's very similar to

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Africa, Jeremiah. So something that's
like a hyena could easy just acclimate to

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this place. Oh that's wild,
Yeah, totally man, I didn't even

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think about that. Are they also
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well, or is it just more
in Arizona area? From what I have

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research, it's more Arizona, okay, but California will get the scant report

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of that type. New Mexico the
same thing, but in those places you

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get more of the werewolf type.
So there's something about Arizona where it's attracting

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the hyena types. Very interesting in
the Nigfah community. As we talked about

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earlier, you have your classic stories, you have like the Patterson Gimlin film,

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others like maybe Albert Osman, stuff
like that. Are there stories that

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are always talked about in Arizona when
it comes to dog different things that always

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Yeah, you get to hear about
their aggression. In a lot of the

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stories that I hear, they're hyper
hyper aggressive, hyper vigilant that are chasing

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people out of camps and chasing them
down hiking trails. So that seems to

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be a trademark here for the dog
man in Arizona. They have bad attitudes.

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So I got to wonder if maybe
it because they live in such a

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hot climate where they just don't like
people. The hot weather isn't making them

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irritated. Oh yeah, I haven't
really heard of any stories where it's been

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a nice dog man. Have you
heard of any nice dog man stories?

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None that I can verify. I
do get people that will come to me

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and say, hey, I have
a clan of dogmen that protect my territory,

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and they protect my property, and
they protect my kids and protect my

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livestock. And well, that's great, that's fantastic, But where's the proof.

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Though there's no pictures, there's nothing
to show that it's one hundred percent

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happening. And as a researcher,
I do have to have some skepticism.

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A healthy dose is always a good
thing. So when they can't provide evidence,

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I got to yo, are you
telling me the truth? Or is

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this just a story that's so important? Has there been any interesting evidence gathered

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about the dogmen in Arizona that you've
heard about so far? Nothing yet?

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And I keep waiting with beta breath
every morning I wake up Jeremiah, going,

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please, let there be some kind
of great evidence that's going to be

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a case breaker, and nothing yet. I'm hoping in my time i'll see

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it, but nothing yet, gotcha? So right now we're looking so your

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personal sighting sightings. You've heard of
any photos of like large tracks or anything

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like that. I have some,
but I'm not breezing enough to just say

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those are dogman footprints. Sure,
I'm still trying to go through the entire

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catalog of wildlife and eliminate what it
could be, and if it doesn't match

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up with anything in the books,
then I could say maybe it's a dog

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man track. Yeah, it's very
smart. I think you have to be

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careful about what you put out there. I see enough things come into email,

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so you have to demunk yourself as
a researcher. You can't just jump

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to the conclusion of the impossible.
You have to take a real good solid

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look at it and say, Okay, it could be other things. So

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let's eliminate these first, and we'll
go through it one by one, and

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if we don't come up with answers, we can say maybe possibly, but

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don't just put it out there.
But oh, by the way, this

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is a dog man track and it
turns out to be a German shepherd or

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something like that. You got to
be careful. Absolutely. This area that

406
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:36.039
you're seeing all the hyena bipeds,
is this around any military bases or reservations

407
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.720
or anything. Oh yeah, plenty
of reservations. Yes, okay, yes,

408
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.160
not really close to any Air Force
bases. They're about sixty miles away

409
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:47.119
from that, but there are a
lot of reservations. Yes, have you

410
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:52.279
ever been able to get any contacts
with anyone that would be involved with any

411
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.519
of the reservations to talk about.
Oh yeah, this is how I got

412
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:02.119
into the study of skin walkers,
all right. I was going to let

413
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.599
you. I was like, I
wonder if I don't know, I don't

414
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.839
know them enough, if I can
broach it. But yeah, so you

415
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.200
actually study that as well. Yes, And I'm very proud of it,

416
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.279
Jeremiah. So you can bring it
up whenever you want. I'm not ashamed

417
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.799
of it. So what happened is
a lot of people were suggesting that what

418
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:23.000
I had seen was in fact a
skin walker, and so I started looking

419
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.480
into the skinwalker stuff, and I
would see the typical YouTube videos, the

420
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:33.119
creepypasta stuff, but I just I
had a feeling that it wasn't accurate information,

421
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.119
Okay, And so I started looking
around even deeper and reading different books,

422
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.039
and I saw, Wow, what
I saw on YouTube was far from

423
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.240
what I'm reading in these books.
So the only way I'm going to find

424
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.039
any answer is if I speak to
the Navajo people. Okay. So I

425
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.160
gathered a friend and I told them, Hey, you get to bring me

426
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.119
to the reservation because I have some
questions that I have to ask them about

427
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.599
these skinwalkers, and you warned me. He told me, hey, look

428
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.400
you're a white dude Ryan, so
they're not going to take kind to this.

429
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.920
But still I persisted because I need
to do this. We'll be back

430
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:14.319
with more Bigfoot Society. After these
words from our sponsors, I walked onto

431
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.640
the reservation and I was acting like
I was mister mighty Might over here,

432
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.480
ten feet tall and bulletproof. I
walked into this crowd of people and I

433
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.240
just stood in one place. I'm
like, okay, so who wants to

434
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.400
tell me about these skinwalkers? And
the looks that I got Jeremiah, I

435
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.119
just I turned to my friend and
I was like, I am going to

436
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:36.279
die because these people were not happy. So we stood there in an awkward

437
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.400
silence for about ten minutes and this
old couple walks up to me, and

438
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.400
the man took me by the hand. He's like, why do you want

439
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:47.319
to know if the Yi Naradushi?
And so I told him, look,

440
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:52.400
I saw this weird animal and people
said it's possibly a skin walker, and

441
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.480
I need to know. And plus
I want to take your actual stories and

442
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.920
put the truth out there. So
he and his wife agreed to talk to

443
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.440
They talked to me people about like
maybe three four hours, and they gave

444
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.599
me so much information. Wow that
oh man, I can't believe you did

445
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:14.279
that. That is just that's probably
the gutsiest move that I've heard someone take

446
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.519
on this podcast over the last It
might have been a little in an interview

447
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.400
in my mark. That's wild,
dude, But how cool is it?

448
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.400
So they spent a few hours with
you just going over everything. My goodness.

449
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.799
Yeah, oh yeah. They sat
me down and they did a blessing

450
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:33.359
over me first, because talking about
the Yi nat Alushi it's a very serious

451
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.200
matter for them. They don't take
it lightly, and so I learned to

452
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.480
take it just as serious as they
do. And they told me where they

453
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.359
came from and what to watch out
for, and they really they gave me

454
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.599
so much stuff that I can never
express enough gratitude to them. It's like,

455
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.799
Wow, you really opened my eyes, and that's how I was able

456
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.559
to conclude that what I had seen
was not a skin walker, it was

457
00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:00.480
something separate. Wow, I know
the information. Usually if I hear in

458
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:07.240
interviews when people talk about information like
that that they've gotten from reservations, it's

459
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:13.640
very it's sometimes very protected information.
Is any of that anything from that that

460
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.039
you can share with the audience,
or is it's things that you have to,

461
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.680
you know, hold back on.
I'm actually able to share whatever as

462
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.759
whatever question you have, I can
answer it because they told me you can

463
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.680
share it. Just please keep our
people in mind and answer it the correct

464
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.160
way. And I made them a
promise that I would not add anything to

465
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.279
it, I would not detract from
it. I would take it just as

466
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.279
serious as they do and hold it
to my heart as they do. Okay,

467
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:44.640
cool, from what they said,
let's start with this. So what

468
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.559
how would you define what a skinwalker
actually is? According to what they told

469
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.119
you? Okay, the best way
to put it is, it's a shaman

470
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:59.279
who learns the magic and the rituals
and the chance of their thin the people.

471
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.759
Okay, And rather than healing the
people with it, they use it

472
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:08.200
to cause chaos and destruction amongst their
own tribes. And it's not like a

473
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.160
werewolf. It's not one of those
things where they change by a full moon.

474
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.440
Now, what they have to do
is they take the pelt of certain

475
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.319
animals, so like coyotes, wolves, those kind of things. And the

476
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.759
reason why they take those certain pelts
is because it's a slight against their belief.

477
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:28.279
To take the pelt of a predatory
animal is the same as giving the

478
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.119
middle finger to their creator. So
what they do is they take these pelts

479
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.400
and they take them back to caves, and they have to do all these

480
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.920
chants and incantations and ceremonies for days
and sometimes even weeks before they can don

481
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.880
that pelt to take the form.
Wow. In a few interviews I've talked

482
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:52.799
to individuals about skinwalkers. From what
you've heard, can they actually turn into

483
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.519
animals such as coyotes? Yes,
yes, I believe they can. The

484
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.240
name so what that name and plot
is that they turn into the four legged

485
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.559
animal. They don't take on a
bipedal form of the set animal. They

486
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.559
go into the four legged form the
actual animal itself. And from what I've

487
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.119
been told, the only way to
tell a skinwalker apart from the actual animal

488
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.719
is to look at the eyes.
Even an animal form, they'll have very

489
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:23.400
human eyes. And that's the thing
where when people have skin walker stories,

490
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:30.719
these are things that are actually happening. In current times. There are people

491
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.519
that are skinwalkers and turning into coyotes, et cetera, et cetera. That's

492
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.760
happening in present it is, and
I think people like to denounce it and

493
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.519
say, oh, it's not happening
in current times because they don't believe they're

494
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.199
still shaman. But it's part of
their religious belief to have shaman. They

495
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.280
will always be shaman. So as
long as there are those shaman, the

496
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.920
medical people, the medicine men,
there's going to be potential skin walkers.

497
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:01.840
That's very very interesting and go ahead. Yeah, it's frightening. It's very

498
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:06.559
frightening. And I'll admit when I
first started researching these skinwalkers, I was

499
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.159
skeptical because I was like, somebody
transforming into an animal, that can't be

500
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.880
true. But after listening to this
elderly couple, they changed my mind.

501
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.519
Jeremiah, like they opened my eyes, so why that I see everything now?

502
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.079
I'm like, WHOA, Okay,
these things are real. So I

503
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.440
will never ever doubt what they say
about the When you were talking to them,

504
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.119
did it ever you asked him about
skinwalkers? Did it ever come up

505
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:37.880
about the hyenas and what you had
seen? Did that ever come up at

506
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:43.199
all? Or was it just everything
was focused on what they believed Regarden Skinwalkers.

507
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.800
It came up very briefly, very
briefly, and the old man he

508
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:52.480
had a spiritual view on my hyena
encounter. He said that I was chosen

509
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.039
because of my heart, because I
have such an open mind and I'm such

510
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.400
a gentle soul that whatever this was, it had chosen me so I would

511
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.400
know the truth. And really,
when he said that, I can't even

512
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.840
word it the way he did it, it was so beautiful that I was

513
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.559
just like, I'm going to go
with that. I'm going to believe that

514
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.280
it shows me because I'm a good
person. Want me to see it and

515
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.760
want me to know the truth,
I'm going to go with that. I'm

516
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.280
going to run with that. That
is is very It's so interesting and it's

517
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.079
a lot of new information and I'm
very thankful that you're able to share it.

518
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:27.320
A few minutes ago you had mentioned
when we were talking about types of

519
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.519
dog man, you mentioned something about
Dog Soldiers. Can you explain is that

520
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.800
a different type of dog man or
what does it exactly? Does that mean?

521
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.840
What it is is we're comparing it
to the movie Dog Soldiers. Some

522
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.800
people say that the dog man they
see is very close in appearance to the

523
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.440
were wolves from that film, and
I think that's actually a really good comparison

524
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:53.320
because some people do describe those really
tall dog men that have the muscles and

525
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:58.400
they're really fast and aggressive. So
that's what I mean when I say dog

526
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.000
Soldiers. Gotcha? I guess I
have a new movie to watch. Sin.

527
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.599
Oh you haven't seen that one yet, dude, I really haven't.

528
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.840
No, you, my friend,
are in for a treat. It is

529
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:15.920
such a fantastic movie. It's so
well done. There's no campiness to it,

530
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.760
there's no cheesiness to it. They
take the whole werewolf will or very

531
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.280
seriously be acting as top notch.
You're gonna love it. I'm such a

532
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:28.039
geek for that movie, dude,
I love it awesome. There was an

533
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.400
individual I talked to is probably years
ago, and we had a really interesting

534
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.679
conversation about dog Man, and I'm
just I'm bring it up and I'm just

535
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.639
curious if you've ever heard anything like
this before, just get your viewpoint on

536
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:46.519
it. Have you ever heard of
that dog Man could be potentially used by

537
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:52.039
the US government, or there could
be like a type of alien connection or

538
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.360
anything like that. Oh, yeah, I've heard both those series. In

539
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.639
fact, I myself, I believe
that some of these dogmen that we're seeing,

540
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.800
I think they're intered, dimensonal beings. I don't think they originated here,

541
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.280
because when you really look at it, you hear stories of how somebody

542
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.480
shot a dog man with a really
big rifle, right and they know for

543
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.880
sure that the bullet hit it,
but there was no wound, no effect.

544
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:15.719
And I have to wonder if it's
similar to the mothman in a way.

545
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:22.039
It's like an ultra terrestrial where its
vibration is higher than ours, so

546
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.760
the bullets just phaded right through it. That is it was. I believe

547
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.280
it was Jody Cook. I was
talking to a few years ago, and

548
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.880
it just it blew me away.
When I first heard that, I was

549
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.920
like, oh, my goodness,
is crazy. Jodi does some great work.

550
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:42.880
He is a good worker. You've
heard of the sightings on the Skinwalker

551
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:47.679
Ranch location like that way back in
the day. This is like not current

552
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.519
owner, but way back absolutely.
Do you believe what do you think may

553
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.159
have happened there? Do you think
that was maybe a dog man or like

554
00:38:55.239 --> 00:39:01.000
maybe some type of prehistoric animal or
I'm open to both possibilities, but from

555
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.119
the way he described it, it
doesn't sound like your typical dog man.

556
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.719
It sounds like maybe it was a
very interesting, different kind of animal.

557
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.639
It could be prehistoric, but really, for my recollection, it didn't sound

558
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.199
like your typical dog man encounter.
So do you think this is there seems

559
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:28.280
to be a interesting theme when you
look into enough cryptid reports, there seems

560
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.280
to be this interesting thread where it's
like, in different parts of the US,

561
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:39.400
there's these animals being seen that seem
to be maybe it's almost like they

562
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:44.239
look like they're prehistoric animals, but
it doesn't make sense because they shouldn't be

563
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:49.360
around anymore. Have you heard of
any accounts that sound similar to that.

564
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.679
Yeah, there was actually one guy
that I knew years back. He passed

565
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.800
away some time ago, but he
actually said that he saw what was like

566
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.719
a velociraptor. And what's really interest
is he didn't describe it like you see

567
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:07.239
in Jurassic Park. The way he
described it was a very small feathered dinosaur

568
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.000
and he saw it chasing some avelina
down here. But he said that it

569
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.079
didn't leave any footprints, and it
looked like it was fading in and fading

570
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.920
out. So Brian, my kid
is big time into dinosaurs, so I'm

571
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.960
gonna flex a little bit. Do
you know that the velociraptor in Jurassic Park

572
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:30.280
is way bigger than they actually were
and Spielberg made them a lot bigger so

573
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.000
that they would look cooler. I
love that, you know that. That's

574
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:39.880
the trivia dudes me hearing that you
said that this guy saw a velociraptor that

575
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:45.400
was a lot smaller. That's probably
more the size that it was. Actually,

576
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.920
that's why when he was telling me
this, I was like, how

577
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.519
do you know what size they were? Wow? So you know your science?

578
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.440
Okay, so I'm listening. You
got my attention now, all right?

579
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.559
Because he could have made something up
and said, oh yeah, there

580
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.599
was also the ones from Jurassic Park
and they were chasing people around, but

581
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.239
he didn't say that. He was
like, they were small, they weren't

582
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.880
huge, and they did have feathers. So I'm going, okay, continue.

583
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.079
That was exciting for me too because
I'm a science geek. So I

584
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:20.199
was like, yes, wow,
and in was that in your same area

585
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.480
then? Or no? No,
this was over in Wilcox. Okay.

586
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:28.960
I wasn't there, so I couldn't
call him crazy. But he was accurate

587
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.199
about it, though, Jeremiah.
You know when you know how it is,

588
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.880
when somebody's accurate about something that's not
really common acceptance, you can go,

589
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.960
oh, I'll certainly hear you out
now. It's just wild. That's

590
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.000
one of the big things where I
don't know how to explain away, Like

591
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.679
why would a guy just randomly come
up with the idea, I'm going to

592
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.679
make up a story about seeing a
small a Vloss raptor or a guy in

593
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.599
New York State where he's going to
just pretend to see I believe they were

594
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:05.400
giant slots Sherman, New York area. That's so obscure that you would think

595
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.079
that if he were to make it
up, he'd know it's not going to

596
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.159
get me in a notoriety or any
fame because they're not really popular monsters or

597
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.400
popular creatures. You think you'd make
up something a little bit more fantastical.

598
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.559
Yeah, it's weird. If listeners
haven't heard about the Sherman, New York

599
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.679
incident, The Moth Boys have a
really awesome book out about it. You

600
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.719
should check it out. It's a
great read, transitioning a little bit to

601
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.800
a completely different subject. But I
want to make sure we chat about it,

602
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:38.880
just because when I hear people bring
up your name, they also tend

603
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:44.199
to bring up the subject of windogoes
as well. Yes, all right,

604
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.519
mission accomplished. Yeah, this is
a topic that has never been I think

605
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.760
the only time it's been broached was
during the clubhouse days a few years ago,

606
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.000
when we would let people or when
I would let people just chat about

607
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.559
whatever they want during the times of
the pandemic on the clubhouse. But I've

608
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:07.880
never Actually, it sounds like you
are really well versed on the topics.

609
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:14.280
Yeah, feel free to introduce what
we're dealing with. Okay. So there's

610
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.760
two different archetypes for the whn to
Go. Okay, you have the one

611
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:21.079
that you've seen all over social media, I'm sure where it's a big furry

612
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.480
creature with a tail, long claws, and a stag's head. Okay,

613
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:29.559
That, Jeremiah, is not how
the wind to Go was portrayed by the

614
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.920
Algonquin, the create you know,
Jibwe. Okay, the real win to

615
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:38.800
Go is depicted as a very emaciated, very pale, very gaunt human that

616
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.679
was taken over by the when to
Go or whet to Go spirit Okay,

617
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.599
so a when to Go could be
you or I, but we'd get possessed

618
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.000
by this thing after we messed around
a bit too much with our cultural taboots.

619
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:58.719
Now cannibalism is the most popular,
okay, but greed, envy,

620
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:04.199
even a curse or bad dreams from
the Powagonak, which are spirit guides or

621
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.840
spirit creatures in the Algonquin belief,
could cause you or I to become a

622
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:13.159
wind to Go. So really there's
a big misconception on the Wind to Go

623
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.440
war, and I want to bring
the real true war to light. So

624
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.880
I'll be working on a book of
the Wind to Go as well, because

625
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.280
it's so just mixed up that people
don't really know what the Wind to Go

626
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:30.280
is anymore. Does this even belong
in the realm of cryptids done? In

627
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:36.199
my opinion, No, In my
opinion, it's more supernatural slash paranormal because

628
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.760
we're talking about a spirit okay,
we're not talking about a cryptid, which

629
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:44.800
a cryptid is an unverified animal that's
rumored to exist. Okay, And no,

630
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.360
the Wind to Go isn't an animal. It doesn't take on the form

631
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:51.840
of any animal at all, So
it belongs more in a paranormal area than

632
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:58.400
it does cryptids. Is that a
Is that something that they say still occurs

633
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:04.039
today or was it during a certain
time period that things like that would occur.

634
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.199
Oh? No, the belief of
the Wind to Go is still very

635
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.519
much alive and well in the Canadian
territories. We'll be back with more Bigfoot

636
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:20.239
society after these words from our sponsors. It's one of those things that they're

637
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.519
going to believe in it no matter
what. It doesn't matter what anybody says,

638
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:28.079
it's going to stay as staple in
their beliefs. And rightfully have there

639
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.840
been. And I guess this is
where it gets tricky because you have the

640
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:37.400
one side where they're saying it's this
crazy looking creature and the other side where

641
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:44.400
it's not that at all. But
are there reports of people seeing what they

642
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.519
believe to be this creature? Then, oh yeah, there's plenty of them.

643
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.880
If you've ever visited TikTok, you'll
see videos every day going I saw

644
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.119
when to go? I saw whend
to go? And then you watch the

645
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.440
video and it's just like this white
costume or whatever, and you're going,

646
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:00.760
how is that a when to Go? You know, what where did you

647
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.320
get when to Go from this.
In fact, there was a video a

648
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.639
long time back. I don't know
if you've seen it, Jeremiah, where

649
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.920
somebody filmed a quote unquote When to
Go stalking a moose on the side of

650
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.960
the Yeah, you know the one
I'm talking about that. Yeah. So

651
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.440
when I watched that, I was
so disappointed because I'm like, how is

652
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.440
this a wind to go? Why
would it be stalking the moose when you're

653
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:24.039
right there? The wind to goes
a cannibal. Cannibal means it eats other

654
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:28.360
humans, so it's going to go
for a moose when you're right there.

655
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.360
No, it's weird because that same
exact video, I've seen it used for

656
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.320
different things. So I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it use for

657
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:38.920
the Rake, I've seen it use
for When to Go. I've seen it

658
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.239
use for so much stuff. Yeah, which that is as a whole,

659
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:49.159
that's a whole different ball of yarn. Don't get me started on the ring.

660
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.639
There's some really interesting research going on
about it, and I really hope

661
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:59.880
that research continues. But yeah,
that's a whole different story and it's so

662
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:07.800
but have you actually been able to
interview people close to maybe people in different

663
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.000
tribal backgrounds about the Wind to Go
or how close have you gotten to this?

664
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.639
My friend actually he's more like my
brother William Nighthawk. He's a Lakota

665
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:21.639
shaman, an elder. He actually
has talked to me numerous times about his

666
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.119
people's belief in the Wind to Go
And I credit him big time with my

667
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.800
knowledge and the way that he's really
opened my eyes to this thing. But

668
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.960
he's really been my best source.
He's been an incredible sourcer am. I

669
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.280
would recommend you talk to him too. He's amazing and he told me his

670
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:43.000
perspectives, his personal beliefs, and
yeah, it's frightening when you really get

671
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.480
to hear it from Indigenous people.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Would you ever

672
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:53.679
consider going up to different places in
Canada to try to get a closer look

673
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.360
at certain areas to do with the
Wind to Go? Or is it a

674
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:02.599
thing where you're doing your research from
Afar. I'm half and half on that,

675
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.280
Like a part of me does want
to go see these areas for myself,

676
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.360
but I've grown to believe in it
enough where I'm going, Yeah,

677
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.679
do I really want to do this? Or would I be in peril in

678
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:20.079
some form or fashion yeah, absolutely, is this up in I guess I

679
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:27.440
could say what what provinces are?
These usually reported in all over Canada.

680
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.920
Minnesota has a few reports as well, So I think really, wherever the

681
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.639
cold weather is really abundant, that's
where the wind go is going to go.

682
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.320
Oh Minnesota. Yeah, And in
my perspective, in my opinion,

683
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:43.239
the wind to go is a weather
spirit. So when winter comes along,

684
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.320
that's the wind it goes time to
play? Gotcha? Gotcha? Probably even

685
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.239
up in the Yukon in Northwest territories, I would imagine too. Absolutely.

686
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.280
Yes, Oh man, there's some
weird stuff up there, dude. I

687
00:48:54.280 --> 00:49:00.000
don't know if you've ever looked into
Oh yeah. With my basis of study,

688
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.679
so I do cover the the lure
and the oral traditions of the indigenous

689
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.679
tribes, and I've started looking to
a different Bigfoot stories from up there,

690
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.920
the Genosquaw and all those things,
and a lot of them happen up there.

691
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:20.000
Yeah, there's some weird stuff going
on. I've actually, I believe

692
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.440
I've heard that that term once,
but I don't think it's ever actually come

693
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:28.119
up in an interview. Do you
mind sharing about that? Sure? Genosquaw,

694
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.559
it's a big foot, and the
name Genosqua means Stonish giant, and

695
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.840
where that name is derived from is
according to what they have said in their

696
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.920
stories, this type of bigfoot was
so smart that what it did it would

697
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:45.239
roll and sap and then roll in
the river rocks to create like an applicate

698
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:50.239
armor that would be used against the
flint arrowheads of the time. So these

699
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.880
bigfoot would come down from the mountains
wearing this armor, and they would raid

700
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:58.480
the villages and steal men and women
and children to feast upon them. And

701
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.559
the braves were helpless against them because
their arrowheads would break when they hit the

702
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.440
river rocks. And that right there, it's not just terrifying because they came

703
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.360
for people, but they were smart
enough to actually wear armor. Let that

704
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.159
sink in for a moment. They
were actually prepared for battle. Yeah,

705
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:21.320
that is wild. Is that from
a certain part of Canada? Yeah,

706
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:25.079
that's really that's carried around a lot
by the Algonquin people. And they do

707
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.119
actually have such fear of them that
what they would do Jeremiah is every night,

708
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.599
once they got the flint lock pistols, they would fire into the woods

709
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:38.920
every single night, just to keep
the geno squad away. Wow, Oh

710
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.880
my goodness, that is that's a
whole that's a whole rabbit trail. I've

711
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.199
never gone down. I'll have to
remember that. That's really cool. Definitely,

712
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.039
definitely you're going to find it very
fascinating. Like I did. I

713
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.639
got hooked when I started reading this
kind of stuff. I was like,

714
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:54.599
Okay, this is my field of
study. Now this is where I'm staying.

715
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:01.079
Yeah, the most I've gotten into
with I guess you could say Southeast

716
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:09.519
Alaska slash Canada is just the legends
of four toaed Sasquatch and is extremely aggressive

717
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:16.440
and there's just some really interesting native
tales of Oh yeah, yeah, And

718
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:21.480
if you ever get the chance to
hear them actually tell it to you firsthand,

719
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:23.719
don't ever pass it up, Jeremiah. The way they tell it,

720
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.719
it's so passionate. It's one of
those things that you're going to be hooked.

721
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.280
So I know, you ever heard
anybody tell a story that like you're

722
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.599
doubting at first, but once they
start telling it, it's done with such

723
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.599
passion and such drive that it just
hooks you and you're like wow, absolutely,

724
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:44.320
Like yeah, if you ever get
the chance, take it in your

725
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:49.880
research down in Arizona, and it
sounds like you're really going You're all over

726
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:54.679
the place, You're talking to people. You're probably to the point where people

727
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:59.079
are coming to you because your name
is out there in the area as the

728
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:04.159
guy who wants to all the weird
stuff. Have you had any for Bigfoot

729
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.639
reports given to you down there from
Arizona? Oh? Yeah, definitely.

730
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:13.159
There was a couple that I used
to know that you're on rim and the

731
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.599
husband believed in Bigfoot but the wife
didn't, and they were camping there that

732
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:21.239
was supposed to be for the weekend, and during the night, something was

733
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.199
coming to their camp and throwing rocks
at their tent, and the husband got

734
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:29.159
a little too arrogant and he started
throwing rocks back, and they said they

735
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:34.199
heard this just blood curdling roar,
and they heard something very massive trying to

736
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.199
run out of the woods towards them. So they literally picked up camp,

737
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.840
leaving their tent behind, their core
behind, got into the truck and went

738
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:44.239
home. So that was like,
yeah, you probably shouldn't mess with Bigfoot.

739
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:50.199
Yeah, definitely not. Are there
ever any Have you ever heard any

740
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:55.639
like interaction between Bigfoot and the dog
man in that area? Is that ever

741
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.840
come up in Arizona at all.
Not so much here. I have seen

742
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.760
other people on social media say that
they have both big Foot and dog man

743
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.000
on their property, but I've never
heard anybody in Arizona claim that. Gotcha?

744
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:14.559
There any other we've talked about for
Arizona, We've talked about some Bigfoot,

745
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:19.079
some dog man we've talked about.
Are there any other weird things that

746
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.519
are happening down there? We have
ghosts because Tombstone, the shootout at the

747
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:27.840
OK Corral, a lot of people
were seeing a ghost of White Erb and

748
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.559
Doc Holliday. Who knows. Maybe
that's possible. I think Doc Holiday was

749
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:36.079
too stubborn to die, so his
ghost is still walking around somewhere, and

750
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.239
I'm sure maybe he'll walk up to
somebody and just sell him. I'll be

751
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:42.199
your huckle bear. Yeah, there
you go. Classic. Are there many

752
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:47.599
UFO alien interactions that you've run into
down there? No alien sightings, but

753
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.840
I do get a lot of UFO
stuff. In fact, the Phoenix lights

754
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.000
remember that case. Oh yeah,
yeah, so that's Phoenix Arizona, And

755
00:53:55.039 --> 00:54:00.639
that was a very famous UFO sighting. I missed it, and go figure

756
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.559
something that big and I miss it
yeah, what was that in the Was

757
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.159
it in nineties? Yeah? Yeah, I remember seeing the video of it

758
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:14.400
as pretty wild. Yeah, it's
insane. I saw Starlink when I was

759
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.480
like, I thought that was a
UFO. I actually had Ashley on the

760
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.519
phone and she was like, Ryan, I can hear I can just hear

761
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.320
saying that too. Yeah. Actually
my little kurb stomper when I'm being stupid,

762
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.920
She's like, Ryan, knock it
off and she'll get you. Yeah.

763
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.440
But oh yeah, in a good
way for sure. Do you have

764
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:37.559
let's say, if we have we
have listeners, and they're mainly going to

765
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.039
be people that are into bigfoot.
I think if I know my listeners,

766
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.199
and a lot of them are like
when they hear about bigfoot, they hear

767
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:49.599
about different things. Oh I want
to go out and look for bigfoot.

768
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:54.480
So when do people in the dog
man community. Do they also do the

769
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:58.000
same thing where they're like, I'm
going to go out and look for dog

770
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:01.760
man or is it handled a little
bit differently. It's a bit different because

771
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:05.519
what you see a lot with the
dog man people is these people want to

772
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.119
go out to kill dog man,
Like they're determined to go out and get

773
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:12.840
the biggest gun they can and bring
one in, and I always tell them,

774
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.119
you got to be so careful doing
that, okay, because yeah,

775
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.960
you're going out looking for a dog
man, but who's to say you won't

776
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.440
shoot somebody innocent? And these things
probably know what guns are. So you're

777
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.360
starting a fight. Can you finish
that fight? Though? What if there's

778
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.079
more than one? How many rounds
can you squeeze off before they get yet?

779
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:35.920
Have there been any incidents you think
where there have been people that have

780
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.760
been killed by a dog man?
Oh, I'm sure some of them missing

781
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.760
for one to one. I don't
think all of them are dog man,

782
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.960
but I'm sure some of them might
be when it's something that warrants further investigation.

783
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:52.480
For sure. It's very interesting.
What are let's say, if you've

784
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:58.800
got someone where they're like, would
love to look more into trying to get

785
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:04.239
the whole the low and the information. What are maybe some good resources that

786
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.840
you could recommend people check out book
as far as dog Man goes Linda Godfrey's

787
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:14.360
books. That woman was just amazing
with all the information she brought to us,

788
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.880
and may she rest in peace.
She's a godmother of dog man.

789
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:22.360
Pick up her books and read them
from cover to cover and reach out to

790
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:27.159
people like me or Jeremiah ask questions. That's the best way you're going to

791
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:31.840
learn is interacting with other people that
have interest like this. Absolutely, yeah,

792
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:37.320
And the more I learned, definitely
people reach out trying to get some

793
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:44.239
I have mainly Bigfoot resources right now, but slowly I'm getting some dog Man

794
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:50.079
books just because it is it's becoming
such a large topic over the years.

795
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:54.039
Oh yeah. Do you think there's
a reason for why over the last few

796
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:59.920
years it's Is it because it may
be because of Linda Godfrey's books or I

797
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.320
think it could be because of her
books. But I think also people feel

798
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.440
more comfortable to share encounters with dog
Man nowadays. If you think back maybe

799
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:13.000
ten years ago, right if you
mentioned that you saw werewolf bigfoot people would

800
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:16.559
have laugh at you, whereas nowadays
bigfoot people will take an interest in your

801
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:21.719
story. So I think people really
do feel better coming forward with these tales,

802
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.519
and I think that's a great thing
because we're getting more and more pieces

803
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.039
to this really complex puzzle. I
agree, definitely. Do you think there's

804
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:37.679
certain parts of the US where different
things seem to congregate in maybe different like

805
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:43.239
high strangeness or cryptids. Do you
think there's any validity to that? Absolutely?

806
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.639
Absolutely. You get some very weird
reports from different states and it's things

807
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:51.320
that don't happen and say, my
particular state, I don't get that,

808
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.280
but it's such a high number of
reports in another state that you have to

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look at that and go, Okay, so it's happening there, and then

810
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there's similar events happening in a different
state. Yeah, I would definitely go

811
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:06.239
with that. Do you think there's
any I know there's a few ways of

812
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:13.199
looking at this, but do you
have any thoughts about why in different parts

813
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.840
they seem to be It could be
energies as far as highest rangeness goes or

814
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.159
spirits go, it's the energy of
the land. And as far as cryptids

815
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go, I think it's what's there
for them. It's the food, it's

816
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.239
the shelter, the availability of water
or perhaps even like the availability of a

817
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:36.280
meat. That's something that animals would
need to look into. Any animal that

818
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wants to survive it has those necessities. So if a certain state has what

819
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it needs, it's going to stay
there. Gotcha. Do you think there's

820
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:50.960
any validity? You see these videos
all the time, different resources where it's

821
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like national parks were created for different
reasons, where they created because of cryptids.

822
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:01.679
Do you think that's just like an
old maybe what type saying? Or

823
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no? Because you know what,
that actually does have some precedents there,

824
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.639
Jeremiah. Okay. And it's a
rumor, okay, or a possible rumor,

825
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:16.519
But they say that Theodore Roosevelt actually
set aside certain parks because he saw

826
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:22.639
the Ozark Howler, and after his
encounter with that particular cryptid, he started

827
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:27.199
seeing other ones like Bigfoot and stuff
like that, and he knew of reports

828
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:31.440
of these things. So he actually
set aside these national parks for cryptids,

829
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.920
and that that is that's wild to
think about that, man, I can't

830
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:43.119
can you imagine actually being able to
talk to that guy and years ago just

831
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to ask him just to man,
now, you think he'd end every sentence

832
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:52.000
with oh, I'd be like,
are you really gonna take down a snelly

833
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.639
gaster? He did give a speech
after he was shot. He was not

834
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:00.599
one tough home brace, so he
really was. Yeah, for sure,

835
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.920
if anybody could take down Bigfoot or
dog Man, it would have been him.

836
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.679
I agree one hundred percent, Brian. This has been just a very

837
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:14.360
fun chat and a lot of places
I didn't know where were going, and

838
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:19.440
I'm glad we went there before we
end out the interview. How can people

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01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.800
keep up to date with what you're
doing, or maybe if they have,

840
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:28.000
maybe they saw something similar to what
you saw in Arizona. How can they

841
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:32.199
contact you? You can find me
on Facebook under Ryan Paul Trembley. You

842
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:37.320
can find me on Twitter and Instagram
under the same name, or you can

843
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:39.199
reach out to me on Monster Radio
on YouTube. You know, just leave

844
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.840
a comment or whatever, and I
read and respond to every single comment.

845
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.840
So reach out to me on any
of those places and I will definitely get

846
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:51.760
back to you. I love interaction, I love questions, I love conversation.

847
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:53.760
So just if he wants he just
hit me up just to talk,

848
01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:00.079
I'm always gamed for that. That's
awesome. I'll be really keeping an eye

849
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.920
and hopefully when your future books come
out, we'll definitely be keeping an eye

850
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.039
on that and maybe even chatting at
them at a later time. Okay,

851
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:12.440
sounds great. All right, thanks
so much for coming on tonight, Ryan,

852
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.280
My pleasure. Jeremiah. You're at
Bigfoot Society. Our goal is to

853
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:22.199
provide a platform for those that have
encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a

854
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.960
safe and respected environment. But we
need to hear your story. If you've

855
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:32.800
experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot

856
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:37.360
Society at gmail dot com. Then
we can start the conversation. And I

857
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:43.519
know a lot of you have not
shared your encounter at all. It's been

858
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:49.000
twenty years and it's time that you
get this off your chest and then you

859
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.320
can get some well deserved for rest
because I know you haven't been sleeping.

860
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:57.480
I understand what you're going through,
and I appreciate every one of you listening