Nov. 21, 2024

The Woods Were Alive, Pt. 2

Dave, a resident of Southwest Pennsylvania and avid hunter, joins the Bigfoot Society again to share his recent and past encounters with Bigfoot. From a harrowing visual experience on his birthday to eerie vocalizations and mysterious fake owl hoots...

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Season 1

Dave, a resident of Southwest Pennsylvania and avid hunter, joins the Bigfoot Society again to share his recent and past encounters with Bigfoot. From a harrowing visual experience on his birthday to eerie vocalizations and mysterious fake owl hoots in Forbes State Forest, Dave recounts his brush with the unknown. He takes us through a series of incidents—disappearing X structures, unsettling weekend hunts with his son, and eerie encounters during archery season. Beyond Pennsylvania, Dave explores strange happenings in Colorado and Vermont, adding depth to his experiences. Don't miss this gripping episode filled with chilling details of Bigfoot sightings and enigmatic encounters in the wild.

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with the show, all right, Big Fort Society. We got

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the privilege again of talking to Dave as an individual

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from southwest Pennsylvania, and we talked to him a few

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episodes ago, so make sure you're familiar with that one

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as well. But due to some things that came up

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on my side, I was like, man, Dave, we got

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to have you back on, and he's gonna go ahead

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and pick things up right where we left it. He's

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got some more things to share and then we'll have

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a little bit of a chat after that.

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Yep, sounds good. Thanks for having me back on.

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Jerreed Monpez, thanks for coming back, Dave.

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Or we finished up on the first episode, I buried

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my dog and we talked about it was my first

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visual encounter I had right after that, and that was

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October twenty I was a bad day. It was my birthday.

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It was October twentieth of this year, twenty four. It

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was my birthday. We just got back from Colorado at

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four o'clock in the morning. My dog wasn't there good.

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She passed away at two in the afternoon, went and

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buried her and had that visual about ten thirty a

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night or so after burying her at the cabin. After that,

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that was on the twentieth of October. It was the

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following Saturday, Friday and Saturday. The following Friday and Saturday

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we went back to where we have most of these encounters,

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and we were hunting, me and my son and so Friday.

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Which was the odd thing about Friday was we actually

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had no encounters, no vocalizations, nothing. It was quiet. The

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woods were quiet. It was the first time I had

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been there in the woods hunting since May, and it

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was Turkey season, the first time really walking around in

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the woods up there since May. And one of the

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places we hunt there was a big X structure back there,

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and I noticed that the X structure was gone and

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it was a big X structure. It was no saplings

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or small trees, it was they were big trees. They

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were probably fourteen i'd say around fourteen sixteen inches in diameter.

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And I have pictures of this I can send you

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too later on, Jeremiah.

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Is this in Forbes in southwest Pennsylvania.

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Yeah, Yeah, it's down yeah, down in Forbes State Forest

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and there's like Ohio Powell and different game lands down

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that way that we hunt, thank you, And so I

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noticed the X structure was gone. And then that Friday

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we hunted and we had no vocalizations, no nothing. I

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didn't know if the X structure being gone meant something

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or but it was the first time in a long

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time that I didn't have Absolutely nothing happened up there.

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And so the following day, Saturday, me and my son,

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we hunted, just the two of us in the morning,

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and what do we do? We archery hunted in the morning,

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and then we pheasant hunted in the afternoon, and a

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friend of mine and a friend of his friend and

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my friend came up. And the one friend of mine

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is the guy we bear hunt with. He had already

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gotten a buck, so he wanted to come up in

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its archery season for bear. We were all basically archery

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hunting for bear, and so they came up and we

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headed out and we went to two different spots. My

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son and his friend went to where a lot of

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our encounters happened, and me and my friend were, I

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don't know, a mile and a half down on the

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canyon or drainage. I guess you could call it. And

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we were down there and I started getting dark, and

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my buddy I dropped him off on the way in

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into like little Finger drainage, and I went in further,

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probably I don't know, a quarter mile past them, and

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by dark, I started heading out and I heard the

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fake Isle hoots and it was basically straight across from

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where I dropped my buddy off. And so I'm walking

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out and they, I don't know it hooted maybe a

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dozen times or so. And I got up closer to

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where he was on this gravel road and he was

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coming down out of a tree stand and I called

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him on the rate and asked him if he had

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heard the Isle hoods and he's yeah. I was like,

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those weren't is hoods you get? I mean, you just

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tell the difference, and I knew they were rying. So

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he came out to the road. We were walking back

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to the truck, and so I texted my son, being

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able there something going on, and they were, like I said,

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about a mile and a half up the drainage, and

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he texted me that they were on their way back

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to the truck because his well, one of his buddy

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had to go leave early he had a dinner he

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had to go to for anniversary dinner. And my son

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also texted me that about the half hour before sundown,

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they were getting a lot of oulhoots near them where

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they were, so he left a little early. And like

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I said, me and my buddy were in his truck

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about a mile and a half from where my truck

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was parked, and my son and his buddy had his

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own car, so they came out of the woods and

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his buddy jumped in his car and took off, and

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my son jumped into my truck and was just sitting

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in my truck waiting for us. And at this point

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it's dark, and so we're walking back to my buddy's

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truck and we're just about back and I get a

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message on my forward pass that my battery in my

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truck is extremely low and it's going into power saver mode.

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That's strange, And so he gets to my buddy's truck

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and my son calls me. This is right after I

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get that message, and my son calls me, I know

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he shook up, and he said that he just had

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one a sasquatch run right past like the passenger door

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of the truck and in front of the truck and

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across the road, and it was walking around in the woods.

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He can hear it walking around the woods right outside

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the driver's door, and I knew he was He was

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pretty shook up and on a verge of tears. And

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then he explained to me that once it went, he

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heard the windows were cracked open. So we heard it

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coming through the woods. He heard the footfalls, and he

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heard it approaching the truck, and then he saw it

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go in front of the truck, past the hood, across

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the road, and he can hear it walk around in

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the woods on the other side of it gravel road.

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So he tried to start the truck and put the

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windows up, and the truck wouldn't start. It was clicking

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like a dead battery. So he couldn't put the windows

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up and he couldn't start the truck. And so he

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called me back and told me that the truck won't start,

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the windows won't go up. Here's this thing walking around

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in the woods right next to him. And so we

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got up there as quick as we could, and between

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the time that we got there, another vehicle coming out

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from hunting had gone past. And once that vehicle went past,

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we were maybe I don't know, thirty seconds behind that one.

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And when we got back, he was sitting in the

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truck and he didn't want to come out, but I

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told him, fine, there's three of us here, and he

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got out and we looked around and there was nothing

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else happened. There was no vocalizations, no more walking around,

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And I honestly, I think it was because my other

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friend was there, and I think if it was just

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me and my son some I don't know what would

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have happened. But being my other buddy was there and

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once we arrived there, that was it. And that was

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really including the first episode, and that is pretty much

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Old Man Encounters the Date. And I did forget a

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few things in the first episode when I was given

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my encounters one in Colorado, when I was talking about

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the Colorado experiences I mentioned about before we had the

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night owls and hawlers in the tent and the miller

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of wilderness. While my son and his buddy was waiting

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for me to get back to the truck that night

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before that happened, he heard the Indian drums, and I

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forgot to mention that the following morning I dropped them

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off in the same spot because they had seen elk

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in this dark timber and they were going in the

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same spot. But I went about a mile down a

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road further, and I wanted to get up into this basin,

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so I was at least a mile down the road further.

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This first thing in the morning just cracked and I

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go up along this dark timber and there's like fields

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up broken fields, and I was trying to get out

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to this edge and look over the space, and I

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was I had the I don't know, I was maybe

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two three hundred yards or so. I could see the

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edge or it rolls over into this space, and I

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heard the Indian drum sounds coming from the dark timber

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where they had heard it, and I mean, I never

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heard it before, and they described it to me the

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night before, and that's exactly what it sounded like. It

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just sounded like Indian drums, like if you're watching a

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Cowboys movie or it's just typical Indian drums and their cadence,

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and there was no rhythm to it, and it was

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just like Indian drums. And it went on for I

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don't know, maybe a few minutes. And also at the

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same time, down coming from in the basin, there was

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coyotes howling at the same time, So I don't know

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if there was any correlation that or not, but it

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was going It was all both going on at the

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same time. The Indian drums were coming from the dark

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timber right behind me, and the coyote holes were coming

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from down in the basin. But I don't think the

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coyote holes were or anything but coyotes, But the Indian drums,

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I don't know. I just I don't know the significance

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of that. And all we're on the Colorado subject. I'll

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go back because I didn't really say anything about last

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year when I was in Colorado. My son and I

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were both supposed to go last year archery hunting elk,

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and it was the first time either one of us

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were ever going to go hunting an elk and Colorado,

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and so we had come up with a plan that

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I was gonna hunt bear and he was gonna hunt

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elk archery, and we were going in mid September and

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I think of September fifteenth or so of last year

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twenty three, and so we had everything old planned that

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and unfortunately, like three or four days before we were

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ready to leave. My son got an allergic reaction and

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he had a rash to just travel around is it

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was like I don't know if he got into poison

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oak or poison ivy or what it was, but he

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had allergic reaction. It was like traveling around his body

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and it would just pop up in strange places like

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his arms and his back and his legs, and it

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was just everywhere. And I wasn't going away and we could.

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We took them to five different doctors and got five

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different opinions, and so I just couldn't take them to

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the middle of nowhere in Colorado and have something happening

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be three and a half hours away from the hospital.

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Ended up going by myself last year and I spent

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ten days there urchery hunting myself out in the middle

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of nowhere. And so when I went there last year,

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I was I had a bear tag fro hunting, and

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my son had the elk tag, and naturally I was

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there the first morning and I saw a bull, elk

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and a kyle. So I go to town and the same

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morning and get a elk tag so I can hunt

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elk also and bear, and so I hunted for I

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think it was like three days, and I had no

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experiences until and I kept bumping elk. I kept it

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was I kept I had elk almost every single day,

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and they were close to my base camp where I

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was set up, and it seemed like they would hop

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over a ridge every other day and I just keep bumping.

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Whether I was bumping them or that was their normal progression,

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I don't know, but it seemed like I'd bump over

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a ridge every couple of days. And so I ended

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up on the third day a couple of ridges over

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from where my camp was. And this was my first

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experience there last year. And so I was hunting in

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the evening and there was a drainage and it was

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I don't know if there was a gas line there.

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It was like cleared out and there was like a

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right away going down over the hill into the drainage,

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and so I was hunting that and I was over

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the edge a little bit and it was getting dark

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and I just started walking back out. It was just

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past shooting light, and I got to the top of

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the ridge and I never heard a loop before. And

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from way down it's not like a half mile away,

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it was faint and it was far away and I

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heard a whoop and I never heard one before, and

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I was like, did I hear what I just thought

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I heard? And I sat there for a few minutes

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and then I did it again. But it was only

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maybe a couple hundred yards away at the bottom of

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the drainage from where I was standing. So that kind

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of freaked me out.

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Big for society, who would be right back After these messages, And.

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The following morning, I go in to the same area,

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not the exact same spot, but the same area as

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more up on top of a ridge, and I got

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there right at the crack of dawn, and I'm sitting

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there and I wasn't there a half hour, and I'm

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looking down over this bench and then it like rolls

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into this draw and I'm sitting there and this crow

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comes flying up the draw turns and comes right towards me,

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and it flew up the draw, got right over my head,

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did a three sixty over my head, flew off. And

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then within a few minutes after that, a big tree

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either fell or was pushed over, probably about eighty yards

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from me. And it was a big tree, and it

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wasn't I was hunting in a burn area, but there

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was zero wind. There was nothing. There wasn't a breath

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of wind. It was clear cool. I think it was

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a frosty morning. And obviously I was in a burn area,

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so there's a lot of dead trees. But I just

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thought I just didn't get the feeling that it was

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a coincidence. And after the tree got pushed over, I

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can hear not necessarily footsteps, but I can hear boulders

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like shifting, like something was walking around down in there

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right where I heard the tree get pushed over. And

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that went on for I don't know, maybe forty five

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minutes or so, and then that was it, and there

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was a couple so after that. Then I think a

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few days later back at camp, I had had some

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moops and haulers and owls fake owlho's back behind camp

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a couple of times, but they were just vocalizations down

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in the canyon. And that was it for last year.

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And the only other thing. There's one important thing I

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left out from the last episode too, so I mentioned

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I had them encounters in the eighties. I believe it

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was eighty seven. I had just three things happening in

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eighty seven. Then there was a thirty three year gap

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until Halloween night when my son and I had the

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Halloween Knight encounter was the throwing rocks into the creek

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court of Beaver was had backed up, and the bloody

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murder screams and all that. And so two weeks prior

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to that, I think we had our first encounter but

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didn't know it. And that so it had been two

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weeks before the Halloween twenty twenty thing happened to us,

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and we were not in the same area. And I'll

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just say this right up front that I've I've hunted

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for forty years and I've heard owls for forty years,

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and like I hunt the suburbs over here, I was

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hunting this evening and there's owls that you know, they

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start hooting it, you know, just before dark or just

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after dark, and their OUs and you can tell the

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difference between the fake isle hoots and the real ales,

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you just can and the ones at home, like near

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the suburbs there where I hunt their ows. And I've

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been listening to the same ones that swart of God

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for fifteen years and this one, this one valley that

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we hunt, and I heard them night. I hear them

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every single night that it's a nice weather nice clear sunset,

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and they always sound off, but their owls, and they

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stay in one spot. They don't fly all over the

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woods and hoot all over the place and do haulers.

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They stay in one spot. They start sounding off, and

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a lot of times there's another one, whether it's made

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or whatever. And one will sound off to the left

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in the valley, and now they're will sound off to

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the right. It'll get dark, and they'd never move. They

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stay in their trees and they do what they're doing.

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And the things that happen up the mountains with the

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fake isle hoots and the hallowers, these things, they're not

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standing still. They move around all over the place. And

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the other thing I'll say is throughout the forty years

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of me hunting, twice I've been buzzed by ales while

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up in a tree stand where and both times, and

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this happens pretty often whenever. If I'm in a tree

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stand and I have deer right under me or real

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close to me, I'll stay there until they leave. So

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I might stay there whatever an hour and a half

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after dark so it's pitch black, and wait for them

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to move on. But SI don't spook them and give

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up my position and they learn where I'm at. And

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so twice I've had while staying in a tree late

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after dark like that, I've been buzzed by aisles where

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they were, and I think that they probably thought I

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was a squirrel or something. And then they come in

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from behind you and they're totally silent. There was absolutely

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no noise whatsoever. So they glide in and you only

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know they're on you until they're on you, and they

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year off the last second where they saw my sleep,

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my arm move or something. They thought I was some

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kind of a squirrel or something in a tree. I

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don't know, but I've been buzzed by ales twice and

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those riles. And so this other encounter that I'm talking about,

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it was two weeks before the Halloween go in and

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it's about a mile everywhere we go. It seems like

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it's a mile walk in, but it's about a mile

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walk in and take his grassy path, and my son

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had his tree stand with them, and it was only

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at the time, I guess he was probably thirteen or fourteen.

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He's eighteen now, so he's probably fourteen, and I think

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it was only his third time going up in a

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climber tree stamp. We get up in there. We're on

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a soak ridge and I'm helping him. I want to

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make sure he's tied off good safety and got a

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safety harness on and put the tree stand together right

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and everything. So I'm helping him put everything together. And

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we're putting a tree stand together, and I see out

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of corner of my eye there's a guy, a hunter,

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all on camo and got a tree stand on his back,

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and he's walking straight towards us, and he's coming right

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towards us. I figured when he got to us would

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say hi and how you going? And he was hitting

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in the direction I was going to go. There's a

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bench down over this office ridge, and the way the

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trajector he was taking, he was going exactly where I

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was going to go. So I wanted to just talk

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to him and say, hey, where are you going so

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I don't bump into you once I leave my son

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here and Theeremiah. He came straight towards us, and he

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was within ten fifteen yards of us, and I kept

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looking at him to make eye contact, to say hi

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and talk to him, and he never looked at us.

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He just the first time in my life I was

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anywhere near that close to somebody in the woods, and

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it was like like he almost like he was a mannequin.

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He walked past us and didn't acknowledge us, didn't look

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at us, just right past, and that was really strange.

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Who knows everybody's different. Maybe it's you know, like talking

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to people in the woods. So he went past us

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and then he went down over the hill exactly where

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I was going to go after I left my son

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once I got him up in the tree, and so

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we get we get marked up in the tree, get

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him all tied off and everything. I wasn't sure where

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that guy went, so I and plus I didn't want

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to go too far with my son image and like

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I said, it's only third or fourth time, maybe up

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on a climber tree stand and I just rolled down

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over the hill a little bit. I was only maybe

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two hundred yards from mark, and I ain't want to

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go mess this guy up works. I figured he's down

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on that oak bench down there, and I didn't know where,

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So I just went between my son in that lower

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bench and until that it got dark, and I came

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back up to help my son down out of a tree,

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and he lowered his bow dying. We got to and

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he's being careful, so it was pretty dark. When we're

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getting the tree stand down, he comes down out of

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a tree. We start taking the tree stand apart and

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putting it together, and we get it all together and

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we're just about ready to throw the tree stand on

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his back and start hiking out, and we got that

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bloody murder screen. But it was right in front of us,

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and I'm talking maybe thirty yards and it was elevated.

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It wasn't on the forest floor. It was elevated, and

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it was like if a t rex just bent over

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and screamed in your face. It was paralyzing. And like

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I said, this is before the Halloween stuff is this

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is what I believe was our first and Connor and

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we just didn't know it. And this thing screened and

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Mark said is that. I was like, I have no idea.

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And it did it four times, and all four times

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it was along drawn out, like a bloody murder scream.

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And so obviously you go and you go and do

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adrenaline rush. You get your goosebum hair standing on end,

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and we're just standing there. I ain't know if something

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was going to come at us or what And I

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didn't want to run. You don't want to do that.

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So we just held our ground and stood there, and

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this thing screams four times. Then it stopped and there

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was a little pause a couple of minutes or so,

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and then this owl had no reason to do this.

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It's owl from It came from a direction where the

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screams came from, and it came down and it flew

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about two foot over our heads. It just went right

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over our heads and it flew off. And then I

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knew that owl did not have the lung capacity, not

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even close do what it did, and so that kind

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of freaked me out, but seeing the isle kind of

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maybe maybe. So we hike out of the woods and

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didn't have anything happened the rest of the way out

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of the woods. We get down to the truck and

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we're talking about what had just happened, and then my

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son brought up the hunter with the tree stand. We

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were getting him set up, and he says that guy

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was strange, and I was like, yeah, he's rubbed me

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the wrong way. He didn't say I didn't look at us.

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He says, yeah, he says, didn't you notice something about him?

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I was like, what And he says he didn't make

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no noise. I was like, what do you mean? He says,

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was a little october les are coming down. It was dry,

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lees are crunchy sticks. He says, he didn't make any noises,

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He didn't make no noise walking through the leaves. I

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was like, I honestly did not even notice that he did,

456
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.319
but I didn't. But he did look strange, Like I said,

457
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.200
how you can walk within ten fifteen yards of somebody

458
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.440
in the woods and not say high or acknowledge them

459
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:11.960
and make eye contact is beyond me. He said, Oh,

460
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.480
that whole guy was strange. I'm not I don't know

461
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.720
what it was. I don't know it's It was strange,

462
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.160
is all I could tell you. And I think that

463
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:26.000
was our I believe that was our first encounter as

464
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.559
far as with these beings, and I just didn't know

465
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.759
it because that whole thing, that whole encounter there was strange.

466
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.000
And that was two weeks prior to the Halloween thing.

467
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.839
And that pretty much. That pretty much covers just about everything,

468
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:45.759
and there's other stuff. It's a lot, like I said,

469
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.960
there's a lot of you can't get into everything, but

470
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.880
there's a lot of there's a wood KNOCKX and the

471
00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:54.119
isle hoots in the just vocalizations. There's just that it's

472
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.799
like almost every time I'm up there, and it's and

473
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:58.400
like I said, I've been hunting for forty years, and

474
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.720
they're not asles Ailes do not fly all around the woods.

475
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.480
They'll follow you out of the woods. So they just

476
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:08.480
and it's like it's almost at this point, it's almost

477
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:13.720
it's like second nature. It still freaks out a little bit,

478
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.799
but I think it's more of it's almost like a change.

479
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.039
It almost seems like it's a changing of the guard.

480
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.279
Like we hunt during the day and then right of

481
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.200
dusk or dark they come out and we're heading out,

482
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.799
and they almost they just whatever most of the time,

483
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.759
just give you a few vocalizations and let you know

484
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.240
they're there, and then we leave. And like I said,

485
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:40.319
sometimes I just recently I started stopping by from in

486
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.759
the area and just hanging out and see if something happens.

487
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.640
This isn't even I'm not going in the woods. I'm

488
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.359
just I'm sitting in my truck. I'm just sitting I'm

489
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.240
back in the woods. I'm I'm not on a paved

490
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.559
highway or nothing like I'm back in the woods pretty good.

491
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.759
But I don't get out walking around the woods or

492
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.599
beating on trees or nothing like that. I just sit

493
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.720
in my truck and they come to me, and they

494
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.359
they I don't seek them out other than sitting in

495
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.519
my truck and they come to me, and it's it's

496
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.920
and these guys, these researchers and these guys that run

497
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.200
around the woods with thermal and recordings and all that.

498
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:17.599
I know you want evidence, but if you really want

499
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.799
an experience going there with nothing and they control everything,

500
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.160
it's up to them. It's not up to you. You're

501
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.240
not gonna and if you have bad intentions, you aren't

502
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.519
going to see or hear anything at all. I believe

503
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.759
they know your heart, they know who you are, they

504
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.720
know your soul, and honest to God, I think that

505
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:39.079
maybe my experiences. Honest to God, I think here's my

506
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:43.440
feeling on it. That that Halloween knight, that we had

507
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:46.359
that stuff going for about an hour and a half

508
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:50.039
or so, and when when you first slammed that boulder

509
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:54.039
into the beaver pond into the creek. Uh, and I

510
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.000
we want to take off? And I asked my son,

511
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:57.920
I says, do you want to you want to go

512
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.480
home or you want to stay and see what I happens.

513
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.759
And we stayed, and I don't know, maybe that was

514
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.279
Maybe that's what opened the door because we didn't run.

515
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.279
Maybe I don't know, maybe that has something to do

516
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.880
with it. Most people do run, and most people, I

517
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.680
mean before up into the Halloween stuff, I was still

518
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.359
of the it's a probably an ape or missing link

519
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.960
or something that effect. But over the past couple of years,

520
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.519
three years, I know that it's not that, and they

521
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.400
have their I don't know what they are, but they

522
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.440
have powers we don't understand. And whether it be spiritual

523
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.640
or interdimensional or the orbs or I don't know. I

524
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.680
don't know what they are, but there I believe, honestly

525
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.720
in my heart, there's some kind of spiritual They have

526
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.839
some kind of spiritual nature tone.

527
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.079
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages,

528
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:11.640
even if you just.

529
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:16.079
Go back hundreds or even thousands of years with Indians

530
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:22.440
and their experiences and their encounters with them, I don't know.

531
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.799
I just I think there's a spiritual entity to them.

532
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.240
But yeah, so that's pretty much all my experiences.

533
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.799
This incredible stuff. I agree with you there's definitely a

534
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.960
large aspect of them that we just do not understand.

535
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:45.319
With our current view of science and just our current

536
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.559
viewpoint of the world, we just we just cannot understand them.

537
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:54.839
But listening to you talk about the owls, the fake owls,

538
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:59.119
that reminded me of something I actually I went for

539
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.480
a few days hiking or a few day camping trip

540
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:05.839
in Iowa in September by myself. One of the nights

541
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:10.640
I was out there, there were owls, but then all

542
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.799
of a sudden, and I don't know why I forgot this,

543
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.640
but it was the weirdest thing. It was like you

544
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:18.440
could hear the owls, but then all of a sudden,

545
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.160
there was an owl that was massive and it was

546
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.119
just like it was. It was horrifying, and that it

547
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.880
wasn't around for But when you heard these fake owls,

548
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.519
were they also? Were they much bigger than the normal owl?

549
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:34.960
Did you ever experience that at all?

550
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:35.160
Oh?

551
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.559
Yeah, you mean the vocalizations, you mean the sounds.

552
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:39.920
It just it sounded like it was coming from something

553
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.160
much bigger, like something bigger than the normal sized owl.

554
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.519
Oh yes, yes. And then like I said, most of

555
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:51.119
the time, you'll there'll be one it's almost there's always

556
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.240
one that will be hooting. You could tell us a voice,

557
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.960
but then there's another one. It's almost comical because you

558
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.720
can really tell it's a voice. It's like a bad impersonation.

559
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.680
And a lot of times it's not even a hoot.

560
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.920
A lot of them will run around and go they

561
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.839
got and other ones will go who It'll just it'll

562
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.680
be along, drawn out like a not a howl. But

563
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.799
it's I just sum up on some of them all

564
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.559
up as hollowers. But there's and then there's different cadences,

565
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.599
so I think just and they're always in family groups.

566
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.200
You're not going to just run into one. So if

567
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.079
you're the first one, there's probably two, three, four five

568
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.200
other ones around them. And and that's another thing with me,

569
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.039
my ole hoots and the and the encounters I have,

570
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:33.640
there's never I'm not just talking about one out hoot.

571
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:38.240
I'm and like I mentioned in the previous episode that

572
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.839
a couple of times that I made myself available and

573
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.000
they'll be in totally different directions. There'll be one and

574
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.240
they almost surround you, which is intimidating because they do

575
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.839
surround you, but it seems like they always leave you

576
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.799
an avenue out and they're not that clear. There may

577
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.559
be they always seem to be just inside the woods line,

578
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.279
depending on how the topography is. I may forty to

579
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.960
fifty six the yards aways like where they get hung

580
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.720
up at and you just out of sight. But there's

581
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.720
never just one. When I say there's alehoots, I'm not

582
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.119
talking about one isle, I'm talking about four or five.

583
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:15.880
And they move with unbelievable speed through the woods. So

584
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.839
they might they might be hooting three hundred yards up

585
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:23.640
to the right and then within ten seconds they're fifty

586
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.160
yards in front of you. It's and they move around.

587
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.960
Another thing is the tone, like the pitch I would say,

588
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.240
there's obviously I guess like a bigger human has a

589
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.480
deeper voice than a young child or a kid or

590
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.000
a teenager. And you can put that up in their

591
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.839
vocalizations too, where there's different tones to their voice, where

592
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.759
some will have deeper pitches or tones and other ones

593
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.119
will have a higher pitch, like I assume they would

594
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.240
be like younger ones. And when I talked about it

595
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:54.920
like in the I'll just throw this in there too,

596
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.680
because in the first episode we talked about how the

597
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.599
one how I made myself available, and they were coming

598
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.119
in close right before I went to Colorado, and they

599
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.279
were hooting all around me. They were inclosed, and I

600
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:09.079
really made up my mind that I wanted to see

601
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:12.400
one in the flesh and blood, face to face. And

602
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.760
then that one screamed. The one screamed down to the

603
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.360
left of me, and then it was about one hundred

604
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.280
and fifty yards away or so, and then it screamed again.

605
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.360
Ten seconds later, it was like fifty yards from me,

606
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.519
and that freaked me out. And then it got dead quiet.

607
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.159
There was no more hooting that one scream and then

608
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.119
when it screamed, it was like a really hot, pitched,

609
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.519
almost like a child's voice scream, and so that freaked

610
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.000
me out, and then all the hooting stopped, like everything stopped,

611
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.239
and I almost got the feeling. People talk about mind speak,

612
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.079
and I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know

613
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.239
if I get it or if I don't. I actually

614
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:52.320
I called and I talked to Chuck from Arizona about this,

615
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.760
and he said that I probably am getting it, but

616
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.679
just don't realize and don't know what it is. But

617
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.079
like when that little one screamed that night, and everything

618
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.559
got quiet after that, and all the vocalizations were done,

619
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:06.880
I got the feeling like it was a really young

620
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:12.239
one and all its siblings were around me and they

621
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:16.599
were doing the hooting, and the little one screamed purposely

622
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:21.519
to scare me, just that it maybe show his siblings

623
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.760
look what I can do. I can scare them, and

624
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.280
and that's I don't know, it was a mind speaker.

625
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.079
I don't know. That's the feeling I got. And then

626
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.559
it got quiet after that. And then so the visual

627
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.480
I had after burying my dog at the cabin, and

628
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.679
mind you, when I had I heard the mumbling a

629
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.840
few weeks before that when I dug the hole, and

630
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.400
the visual I had when I stuff from the tarp

631
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.480
underneath the cabin and I turned around looked, and like

632
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.880
I said, it wasn't very big. It was a juvenile,

633
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.519
I would say, And it didn't look much bigger than me.

634
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:58.079
It maybe he was six foot tall. And the filling

635
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:02.480
I got out of that was that maybe it was

636
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.599
that young one that screened at me a few weeks prior,

637
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.039
and maybe that was who knows, that's the feeling I got.

638
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.000
That's why I saw that one. Maybe the family group

639
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.639
or the parents made him come in and I don't know,

640
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.719
maybe almost apologetic or something. I don't know. I don't

641
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.079
that's the feeling I got. But whether that's mine speak,

642
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.199
whether that's just my own brain, my own you know,

643
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.880
my own thoughts in my head, I don't know. I

644
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.400
don't know, but I know to mine speaks things real

645
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.000
and my son seems to be getting some of that too.

646
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.199
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that so before we

647
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.199
got to I'll just hate to jump around like this,

648
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:47.400
but whenever my son had the visual just last week

649
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.960
or so or last encounter, one of the Sasquatch, hear

650
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.840
the foot steps footfalls coming and ran in front of

651
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.239
the truck before we got there, and the truck wouldn't start.

652
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.360
So we had talked to Chuck the previous night, Friday,

653
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.960
and my son's disencounter was on Saturday the next day,

654
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.639
and the truck was talking about the mine speak and

655
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.320
trying to explain it to us, and so my son,

656
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:17.320
when the truck wouldn't start, he said to himself, what's

657
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.239
wrong with this sing? I want to start? And he

658
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.800
said he got a message in his head that we

659
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:26.519
did that, meaning it was them that was appter truckt

660
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:30.559
or disabled the truck or whatever. And so when he

661
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.199
got that message in his head, he asked, he said,

662
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.039
how many of you are here? And he got the

663
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.119
number four, so and then we showed up right after that. So,

664
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.000
you know, I don't know that that's what he told me.

665
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.000
I never got nothing quite that clear, I don't think.

666
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.840
But then I've had dreams, and I don't know if

667
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.519
their dreams mine speaking, I don't know, but I know, God,

668
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.559
I know that this all this stuff sounds crazy. And

669
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.280
four years ago I was with you. I think everybody

670
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.519
has their own path, and I'm a I have to

671
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.639
see it to believe it and experience it to believe

672
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.679
it kind of guy. And four or five years ago

673
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.280
I knew of bigfoot, and I had my experiences in

674
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:18.440
the eighties, but all this stuff I'm talking about now,

675
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.679
I would have said, you're a fruitcake. But uh, but

676
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.800
I have experienced all these things firsthand. And I know

677
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.199
for a fact the foot, the whole thing, that you

678
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.760
can't have footprints just appear and disappear, and have sounds

679
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.119
made and then not made, and things turn and disappear,

680
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.639
and it's just there's just everybody has their own path,

681
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.599
their own level of experiences and if you just have

682
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:49.880
a one off road crossing, you know, that's where I

683
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.840
was for the longest time. Bay there, I saw one.

684
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.840
They're real there. They got to be a missing link

685
00:38:56.039 --> 00:39:01.320
or gigantipithecus or some kind of physical creature, elusive creature

686
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.320
that you know eludes everybody in the woods. But then

687
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:05.960
once you go through what I went through the last

688
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.800
three years, you know that they're not just a physic

689
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.679
they are. They're here, but they can change, they cloak.

690
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:18.239
They I really do believe that somehow or another they

691
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:22.039
shape shift or I don't know, do they take over

692
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.000
the body of the owl or the crow or whatever,

693
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.320
or do they shape shift into that. I lean towards

694
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.800
the shape shifting because I don't know, because it just

695
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.800
seems just some of the strange things that's happened that

696
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:35.800
an isle or whatnot just can't do it even if

697
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:40.280
it wasn't now. But yeah, so that's that's where I'm

698
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.480
at with that. But I don't know how you feel,

699
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.440
like what you feel they are? What you know, if

700
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.000
you feel there spiritual or.

701
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:54.239
Well like alien or what so, personally, I think it

702
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.639
is some kind of physical creature that can do a

703
00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.639
lot of weird stuff and has a lot of weird

704
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:07.400
connect actions to things in the world that we cannot

705
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:15.760
see and my I really don't know. I'll tell you this.

706
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.679
The more that I get out there in the field

707
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.000
and then I come back, my view of things is

708
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:29.639
starting to change a little bit. And it has to

709
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.679
do with a question I was going to ask you

710
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.719
that you've already answered yourself. But when you have your

711
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.280
experiences out in the woods, are you leaving them out there?

712
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.079
Or do things follow you home at times?

713
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.880
As far as like spirits, like I said, like this

714
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.440
all started where we hunt. Now they haven't followed me

715
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.679
to my home when you're in Pittsburgh, they've but they did.

716
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.920
Now they're around the cabin. They're not just where we hunt.

717
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.880
So now they're around the cabin. And then there's those

718
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.239
I mentioned in the first episode. There's a spot we

719
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:06.679
hunting and after Christmas and Flintlock season, we're the deer

720
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.880
all Yard up and that's where we had that encounter

721
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:15.039
in January, and so they'd been there, and then obviously

722
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.880
Colorado and then oh I didn't even get into the Vermont.

723
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:23.079
I tell you about the Vermont real quick. So I

724
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.760
travel around and deliver motorsports around the country, and I

725
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:31.000
had two things in Vermont two years ago. I think

726
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.480
it might have been the first time I was going

727
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:34.840
through there. And I was cutting through the middle of

728
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.559
Vermont through the Green Mountains, and I was working my

729
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:41.000
way to New Hampshire to pick up something in an auction.

730
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:43.840
So I was on a two lane road going through

731
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.960
the mountains up near the ski resorts and come down

732
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.079
the other side through the Green Mountains, and I was

733
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.159
looking for a place to pull over because it was

734
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.239
in I don't know if it was the end of

735
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.360
March beginning of April, but there was a lot of

736
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.880
snow that year in the Northeast and there was still

737
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.360
It was a warm day, it was like sixty degrees,

738
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.639
but there was still like on the north facing slopes

739
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:06.440
and in the valleys, there was still a couple of

740
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.719
feet of snow on the ground. And so I'm on

741
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.760
this two lane road and I just wanted to I

742
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.840
wanted to pull over at a pool off somewhere and

743
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.440
I take a picture, and it happened to be I

744
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.360
was there was this beautiful all the snow run off

745
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.760
and there was this blue, green water running down the

746
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.360
side of the road for the most part, and there

747
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.639
was snow there, so there was a pull off. So

748
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.039
I pulled off, and I was going to go down

749
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:38.280
by the creek and take some pictures of the green

750
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.840
water coming down through the snow in the valley. And

751
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.199
I go over the hill and I go down and

752
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:48.119
into the creek, and it was melted up on top

753
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:50.639
near where I pulled over, and the whole side when

754
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.639
I went down over, but down by the creek there

755
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.199
was these they were melted out, and they were obviously

756
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:58.920
a lot more bigger than what they were when they

757
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.480
were made. And the powder or the snow, but there

758
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.679
was these giant footprints going into the creek. And they

759
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:09.559
didn't cross the creek. They went into the creek and

760
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.119
then that was it. They didn't come back out of

761
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.360
the creek. They went into the creek and then they disappeared.

762
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.519
That it wasn't like somebody walked across the creek. I

763
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.360
took the pictures of it, and then so there's good.

764
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:24.199
There was three good footprints left in the snow, and

765
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.960
then the first one on the left. And these prints

766
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.039
were made probably when there was three foot or two

767
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.199
foot of powder, I would guess, and so the left

768
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.760
foot it landed on a good sized log and it

769
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.760
just it destroyed the log. It just it broke it

770
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:46.079
splintered it and broke it in two. And you could see.

771
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.119
I can send you pictures of this. And there's where

772
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.239
the footprint come down and broke the log and almost

773
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.559
went through the log, and then it stepped over the log.

774
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.920
And there's three good footprints there. And I even put

775
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.400
footprint next to the prince just to show the size difference.

776
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:06.840
And like I said, I know they're melted out. I

777
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.960
know they're bigger than what they were, but they were

778
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.480
big footprints to begin with, believe me. And so that

779
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.239
was the first encounter. And then I think it was

780
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.599
it might have been spring of this year. I think

781
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.760
it was in like it might have been in March

782
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.280
of this year. I was in Lower Vermont, so it

783
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:33.239
was the bottom end of the Green Mountains and I

784
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.559
was on the New York border. I pulled over. It

785
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.480
was late at night, it was about one o'clock in

786
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:38.920
the morning, and I was starting to get tired. So

787
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.519
there was a little turnoff. I was on two lane road,

788
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.599
I think it was Highway seven, and I pulled off

789
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.800
on a turnoff right before I crossed into New York,

790
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.840
and I could see the sign Welcome to New York

791
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.119
in front of me. So I pulled off air and

792
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.039
I was gonna sleep there for the night on the

793
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:54.800
side of the road.

794
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:31.360
Big for society, who would be right back after these messages.

795
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.760
And so, like I said, about one o'clock in the morning,

796
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.079
and I jumped on the back of the truck and

797
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.960
went to sleep. And I got up at three thirty

798
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:25.920
in the morning and I had to take a leak.

799
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.119
I get out of truck and I walked the other

800
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.519
side of the truck and from down in the valley,

801
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:38.239
I hear people talk about the air raid siren howls sounds.

802
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.440
And I'm standing there at three thirty in the morning

803
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.440
and down in the valley it was almost like a

804
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:50.679
mournful how And it was four long, a long, drawn

805
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.840
out just like I said, just like an air raid sirens.

806
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:57.639
It started out at a higher pitch and got into

807
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:01.039
a deeper pitch and just sounded just like an raid sign.

808
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.000
And it did that four times, and that kind of

809
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.599
freaked me out. But yeah, and that's what happened to

810
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:08.719
me in in Vermont also. But I can Like I said,

811
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.119
I could send you pictures of this stuff, and I

812
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.320
can send you some. I have the vocalizations from Colorado

813
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:21.000
from this year that actually took and we have one

814
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.239
a recording, and if you're able to play that would

815
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:26.639
be that would be awesome because it turned out you

816
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:30.599
could definitely hear the fake isle hoots and then whoops

817
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.880
and a couple hollers and those recordings.

818
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.400
The audio that you'll hear next has been provided by

819
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.719
David's from a recent trip of his out to Colorado.

820
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:42.760
There are two different clips that you'll hear.

821
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:12.880
That's the story of it.

822
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:19.079
There's one way out there, there's these two one.

823
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.199
One hoop and there's one way out there.

824
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:27.639
They're getting closer.

825
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:47.480
And they played it like he'll hoot at the other

826
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:48.440
one comes in close.

827
00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:36.719
Oh my god, turnphones only go away.

828
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.079
Yeah, that would be fantastic because we were talking about

829
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.199
that before we started recording. Is that you actually got

830
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.639
those recorded, which is awesome. So I would love to

831
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.599
hear that for sure and put them in the episode.

832
00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:00.639
Yeah, And then we talked about this before we too.

833
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.920
Was it was the time before the little one screamed

834
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.599
at me, you know, when I was sitting up there

835
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.920
and they were coming in close, and I stopped. The

836
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.920
time before that, it was maybe two weeks prior to that,

837
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.840
and I had the vocalizations and stuff going on, and

838
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.639
it was going on for about an hour or so,

839
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.079
and they were coming in and leaving, coming in and leaving,

840
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.440
and so they came in pretty close, and I tried

841
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:31.000
to take a recording of them with my phone, and

842
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.920
so they were in pretty close. I was on one

843
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:36.440
side of my truck. I was walking around the other

844
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.280
side truck. So I started recording, and I did this

845
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.199
on a voice recording, and you can hear me walking

846
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.440
into gravel and then I stopped, and I actually recorded

847
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.079
about maybe forty five seconds of them the fake isl

848
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:55.159
hoots and a couple hollers, and then it got quiet

849
00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:00.079
for a minute, and then I did my whoo and

850
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.719
they didn't really respond, and then that was it. And

851
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.840
so I listened to it when I because I don't

852
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.320
know how it happens, but these electronics have a funny

853
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.880
way of either not recording or not showing up or whatever.

854
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.480
So I listened to it immediately and it was all

855
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.360
on there, and I was That was the first time

856
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.760
I ever recorded anything, and actually got something, and I

857
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:25.719
listened to it like three or four times when I

858
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.880
was up right after I recorded, while I was still there,

859
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.840
and the whole thing was there. You can hear the hoots,

860
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.519
you can hear a couple of hollers, and you can

861
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:35.039
hear it starts out. You can hear me walking in

862
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:36.920
the gravel. You can hear the hoots in the hollers,

863
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:39.960
and then you can hear me do my call, and

864
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.599
then nothing after that. I went home, and when I

865
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.800
got home and I played it, there's about the whole

866
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:49.679
forty five seconds of them hooting and hollering was gone.

867
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.519
So I still have the recording. You can hear me

868
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:56.280
walking through the gravel, and then immediately goes from as

869
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.880
soon as I stopped walking in the gravel, it goes

870
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:04.480
to me going whoa, and that whole forty five seconds

871
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.800
or so of them hooting and hollering is going. It's

872
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.320
just it's gone. It's going off the recording. Well how why,

873
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.840
I don't know, I have no idea, but it's gone,

874
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:14.559
so I can tell you.

875
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.320
And it was there, is it like it was like

876
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.440
it was split in that part was deleted out or

877
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.039
just yeah, yeah.

878
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.440
Yeah, it's yeah, it's because, like I said, it was

879
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.159
all on record, and then you can hear me walking

880
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:33.400
into gravel and it immediately goes to me doing and

881
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.679
the whole part of them doing their owls, hoots and

882
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.519
hollers is gone. It is only I'd say it was

883
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.440
a little less than a minute, but that whole it's gone.

884
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.599
It's just it's deleted, that whole section. Yeah.

885
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.559
I when I first started that this, when I first

886
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.239
started this podcast, I used to kind of scoff at

887
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.679
stuff like that. But now, dude, like I've experienced so

888
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.800
many things where it's like drop phone calls, weird things

889
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:03.360
happening in the phone calls, my internet going out completely

890
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.239
just opened, and it's yeah, it's not out of the question, dude,

891
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:07.880
for sure.

892
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.079
And I think a big I'm not saying that's even

893
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:15.239
the susquatch thing or paranormal stuff. It could be a

894
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.880
big brother who knows. I don't know exactly, Yeah, control

895
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:20.960
and some of it I don't know, but I was

896
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.639
I could tell you as it was there, and you know,

897
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:25.079
it takes me about an hour and a half to

898
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.239
get home, and it was gone when I got home.

899
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:29.960
Oh that's wild, But that's what amazes me is the

900
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.559
Colorado stuff is still there, and it's you know, that's

901
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:37.559
another thing. It seems like in Colorado you get their

902
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.760
different So I never heard whoops in Pennsylvania ever, just

903
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.079
they do their ale hoots and they do their imitation

904
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.559
to me and whistles. But Colorado is the only place

905
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.960
I heard actual whoops. That's the first place. That's the

906
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.039
only place I ever heard of them. So I think

907
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.480
that's another thing where maybe different parts of the country

908
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.920
they do a little different vocalizations or have their own

909
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:01.800
things they do in different areas. I don't know.

910
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:06.800
Yeah, I don't think that kind of thinking is out

911
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.920
of the realm of logic at all. You had mentioned

912
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.360
really quick earlier in this episode where you were starting

913
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:18.119
to have some dreams that were happening. I would be

914
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.159
curious if you'd be able to share anything about that

915
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.800
or what you you met by that, what you started

916
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:25.639
to experience. I'd be really curious.

917
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:29.599
It was last let me tell you that, so twenty two.

918
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:33.440
So twenty twenty we had the halloweyen thing. Twenty twenty

919
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.679
one there was nothing, So twenty twenty two it started

920
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.599
up again. So I'm not sure exactly when it was,

921
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.480
but it was when I was struggling first, starting to

922
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:43.920
struggle with wanting to see these things or not, because

923
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.880
I know, once you see one, you cannot see it,

924
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:51.159
and so I was wrestling with that, and I would

925
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:55.719
say within a period of a week, I had three

926
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:04.320
different dreams, vivid dreams of encounters. And the first one

927
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.159
was it was exactly it was where we hunt and

928
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:11.639
it's exactly the spot where I call ground zero, like

929
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.239
where the X structure is and all that, and there's

930
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.920
an interest. It's a grassy path and there's like a

931
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.880
y there. So in my dream, I was hunting down

932
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.119
in this thicket and I was walking back to my truck,

933
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:26.639
and my truck was parked at the y. But the

934
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:28.159
only weird thing about that is, you know a lot

935
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:31.519
of drivebacker in your truck on this grassy path, but

936
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.039
my truck was parked at the y in this grassy path,

937
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.519
and I'm walking back to my truck and in my dream,

938
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.320
maybe fifty yards from my truck, and I just had

939
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:46.000
this uncontrolled like is you know, the feeling that you're

940
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.920
being watched, something's right behind you, and I turn around

941
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.960
and look in like twenty feet behind me, there's a

942
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.840
sasquatch and I don't know it it was Harry and

943
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.480
it was I don't know it was Harry. The face

944
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.679
was pretty hairy, it didn't have a point, it had

945
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:04.280
had a round it had. It was more human like

946
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.199
than anything. But it was like a little bigger than me.

947
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.679
It wasn't a lot, It wasn't a big menacing monster

948
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.000
a thousand pounds, eight foot tall. It was maybe six

949
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:16.159
foot tall. And I turned around, obviously it scared me,

950
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:19.000
and they like stared at me and smiled and then

951
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.440
ran off. So then, and this is in my dream.

952
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:27.960
I get to my truck and as I approached my truck,

953
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.000
I'm approaching the passenger side of the truck, and then

954
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.039
I go around to the driver's side of the truck

955
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.639
and there's one on the other side of my truck

956
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.480
that jumps up and looks at me and smiles and

957
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.639
runs into the woods. So that was my first dream,

958
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.440
And that was kind of freaked me out because but

959
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.480
that's the one I wasn't sure if it was a

960
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.280
dream or it was mine speak trying to maybe show

961
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.480
me what you guys look like. I didn't know, but

962
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:56.760
I wrote it off as a dream. Because I was

963
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.320
wrestling with what did they look like? And then the

964
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:03.519
other ones, the other two were same area. It was

965
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:07.000
in the woods and just getting that feeling that you're

966
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.360
being watched in the quiet and no birds and no

967
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:15.360
crickets and no cicadas, just dead silence and knowing that

968
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.760
they're there. And I turned and I looked and there

969
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:19.960
was one standing next to a tree and it just

970
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.280
how they said he do the peekaboo or peaked behind

971
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.000
trees or whatever, and it just went behind a tree

972
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:27.920
and peaked back out and went back behind a tree.

973
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.480
But this was a big one. And those were my

974
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:32.840
last two dreams. But like I said, I don't know

975
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.119
where they mine speak, where they dreams. I think there

976
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.559
were dreams, but because like I said, I was struggling

977
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:40.880
with seeing one when I wanted to see one or not.

978
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:43.079
But I don't know. I think there were dreams, but

979
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.000
I don't know. I don't know how you know if

980
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.840
you have mind speaking unless you're actually I don't know.

981
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:50.039
I struggle with it because I don't know if I'm

982
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.440
getting it or not, you know, unless it's a direct

983
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.960
but almost so basically a direct question and you get

984
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.719
a direct answer or something physical happens.

985
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.519
I don't know, but yeah, it's it's that's definitely an

986
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.519
interesting thing. Both of your dreams were before you had

987
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:07.639
that visual.

988
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.360
Oh yeah, okay, yeah you had the visual. Yeah, these

989
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.199
dreams were probably two years ago. My visual was just

990
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:16.639
a couple of weeks ago.

991
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:21.119
That's wild, just a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

992
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:24.119
Going back to the that visual, that.

993
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.320
Was that was amazing that the gold eyes they were

994
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:28.360
just so huge. I can't explain how it was like

995
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:30.400
when you see the full moon coming up over the

996
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:32.840
horizon and you're like, wow, is that big. That's how

997
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.719
big these eyes were. That's the and they just they

998
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:40.760
were almost they sparkled like gold metal flake, like polish

999
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.079
gold metal flake, like they were made out of gold

1000
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.519
metal flake. I don't also describe it. And it was amazing.

1001
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:49.559
They were just and then it was the feeling on

1002
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.480
top of that that you get an adrenaline rush, obviously,

1003
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:54.880
but just the feeling.

1004
00:57:54.760 --> 00:58:05.840
Was how far apart were the two eyes would you say.

1005
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:08.119
I don't know, maybe four or five inches, maybe four

1006
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:09.360
inches four to five inches.

1007
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:13.360
I'm trying to remember. I just listened to this too.

1008
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.039
You could actually see the hair as well. Right.

1009
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.320
Yes, I could see the outline. I could see the

1010
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.320
outline of the body that had just it was. It

1011
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.639
appeared very harry. There was no like, there was no

1012
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.440
muscular It was Harry. So there was it was Harry.

1013
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.880
I mean it was like, I don't know how to

1014
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:38.239
describe this, but I don't know. So you're familiar with

1015
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:44.000
Scott Carpenter, yep, So I think in his intros. I

1016
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.400
haven't watched this thing for a while, but I think

1017
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:49.800
in his intros or the end they had, he goes

1018
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.800
through how he wore a back camera and he has

1019
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.000
these videos of being speaking in the laurel and whatnot

1020
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.880
and all that. So there was one. There's one. I

1021
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:02.639
think it was a white one and has it had

1022
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:05.360
big eyes and it was white and it was like

1023
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.320
it was all white and hairy. It was like almost

1024
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.519
like a pac Man looking thing or a cousin it

1025
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:14.199
or you know, from Adam's family or something. And that's

1026
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.199
what it looked like. It didn't look like a muscle bone.

1027
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.800
It was very hairy. It looked like a very hairy

1028
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.400
like the hair went right down to the shoulders into

1029
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:29.719
the body into it was all and and like I said,

1030
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.480
it was more outline than anything. I couldn't you know,

1031
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.840
I couldn't tell you what color the hair was. But

1032
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.679
like I said, when it turned when I clicked the light,

1033
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:41.920
the higher being that it wasn't just the head that

1034
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.440
the whole body turned. Everything turned at once. The whole

1035
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.599
thing turned sideways, and it went behind that red oak

1036
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:51.679
tree and it was gone. And but like I said,

1037
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:53.719
and it was right where the hill rolls over behind

1038
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:58.559
the cabin. So I'm thinking I was seeing it from

1039
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:02.440
like the waist up or maybe thighs up, and it

1040
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.519
appeared to be maybe six foot tallish, I would say, maybe,

1041
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.480
But it wasn't. It wasn't four foot wide, thousand pounds,

1042
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.880
nothing like that. It was it was like almost my size,

1043
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:15.000
was I'm sorry.

1044
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.320
Was there any smell in the air at that time?

1045
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:18.760
No?

1046
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.880
The only time I ever smelled anything was in the

1047
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.599
eighties when that one when we were playing basketball, and

1048
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.719
that one come down through the pine trees and was

1049
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.519
watching us while we were playing basketball, and that's the

1050
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.880
only I smelled it. That And then later that year

1051
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.199
when we were riding quads, we smelled the same smell.

1052
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.559
That's the only two times I ever smelled that, And

1053
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:41.800
which when the thing happened on Halloween, I didn't know,

1054
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.400
and I thought maybe they smelled all the time.

1055
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.599
Big for society, who would be right back after these messages?

1056
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:05.360
And I thought that was weird that we had that

1057
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.519
hour and a half encounter so and didn't smell anything.

1058
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:12.360
But I haven't smelled anything since then. Since the eighties, it's,

1059
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:16.920
you know, nothing, So I don't know. Obviously, I don't know.

1060
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.559
Maybe it's something they controlled, like a skunk. I don't know.

1061
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.000
But I definitely smelled it in the eighties it was horrible,

1062
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:26.880
But nothing since then at all.

1063
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:36.239
Going back to Forbes State Forest, for have you heard

1064
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:40.519
of other people also having encounters in that same area

1065
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:43.000
that you haven't brought up yet.

1066
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.920
Yeah, if I'll be honest with you, Like my one

1067
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:51.519
buddy that I hunt with his family had a place

1068
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:56.800
up there in the seventies or whatnot, and there were

1069
01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:02.280
stories from back in the seventies encounters whatever, sightings and

1070
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.840
what they were. But he told me that there was

1071
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.960
back in the seventies people would hear things or claim

1072
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.360
to see him or whatnot. But yeah, it's been Yeah,

1073
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:13.480
i'd say it's been a hot spot. And I even

1074
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:16.639
went on I don't know what I was on was

1075
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:20.719
recently and that something popped up with encounters in Pennsylvania,

1076
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.599
and there was a couple of markers close to Actually

1077
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:30.079
there was one marker where I parked. There was a

1078
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.239
marker right there exactly where I park, and I think

1079
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.320
it was from I don't know, maybe I think it

1080
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:41.400
was in the two thousands, from that marker, but it

1081
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:45.400
was exactly. The pin was exactly where I park and

1082
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.639
have a lot of my encounters just sitting in my

1083
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:50.519
truck and it's back off the road, it's back in

1084
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:51.159
the woods.

1085
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:54.960
What was your reaction when you saw that pin on

1086
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:55.559
that map?

1087
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.559
That was mazed? Because, like I said, I think there's

1088
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:03.079
from two thousand, it was from two thousand and seven,

1089
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:08.119
eight nine somewhere. I can't remember exactly, but like I said,

1090
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:11.360
the pen was exactly because how I talked about that

1091
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:17.039
grassy path, the pin was right where that grassy path

1092
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:20.400
goes off their gravel road and where I said a

1093
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:29.599
lot of times. So yeah, I'm sure that's another. So

1094
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:33.519
here's another thing that's that I how like I know

1095
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:38.159
my son's been up burnhad encounters and he's like in

1096
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:41.119
some of the spots it's close to the lake or

1097
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:46.400
somewhat close anyways, And like when you hear the vocalizations,

1098
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:49.840
like he said, you'd think that if there's people fishing

1099
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:51.559
it at night on the lake or near the lake,

1100
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.480
that they would hear them. And then you hear the

1101
01:03:54.599 --> 01:04:00.599
counters where certain people they might hear something and somebody

1102
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:04.159
that's with them doesn't hear anything, or maybe they're one

1103
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:07.760
hundred yards apart, and one heard a wood knock coming

1104
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:11.239
from the direction where their buddy was, but their buddy

1105
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:12.880
didn't hear nothing, and they should have been closer to

1106
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.280
the wood knock. So it's a belief that these things

1107
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.639
operate off of some kind of energy or and they're

1108
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:27.159
like a vibration and the frequency. So I never really

1109
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:29.719
paid that much mind, but then if you think about it,

1110
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.000
I just recently thought about this, and I don't know

1111
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.679
how radio works. A lot of electrician I don't know

1112
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.119
any TVs radio. How you get a voice in a

1113
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:41.920
studio to go to an antenna in the food air

1114
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.639
and then down another antenna in my radio and we talk.

1115
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.360
I don't get it, but I know they works, and

1116
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:53.320
there are different frequencies. And it struck me that, you

1117
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.719
know how some people hear things and people alongside or

1118
01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.920
near don't hear something, and if it is, they do

1119
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:04.440
uprate on a different frequency. I mean, like me and

1120
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:07.360
you can be in the same house and I could

1121
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:10.599
be listening to one of two point five on the

1122
01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:14.480
radio and listening to Leonard Skinnyard, and you can be

1123
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:19.039
in another room listening to one of four point seven

1124
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.599
and listening to a country song. And we're in the

1125
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:24.239
same house, but we're listening to two different frequencies and

1126
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.840
two different stations and hearing two different things. You know

1127
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:28.239
what I mean.

1128
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:32.119
Oh yeah, no, I totally get it. I don't think

1129
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:36.239
that's out outside the realm of possibility either. I think

1130
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:39.920
there's some really weird frequency stuff going on. I've been

1131
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:44.960
in situations where people in the group have heard stuff live.

1132
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.079
No one else heard it, including myself, but it was

1133
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:52.119
picked up on the recorder. There's just this weird stuff, man,

1134
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:55.719
Honestly don't know. It's one of those things where I

1135
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.840
hope we get the answer to it someday.

1136
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.079
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that'll ever have.

1137
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:04.800
I know the government knows about these things, and who knows,

1138
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:07.119
you know, holding depth that gets. But I don't know.

1139
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:10.039
I don't know. I think it's something. I mean, just

1140
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.639
everything that's coming out, like your podcast, all the different podcasts,

1141
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:16.920
there's ten, just kind of it's well over. It's got

1142
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:18.719
to be in one hundreds of thousands of people by now,

1143
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.880
I would think with these different experiences and then a

1144
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:25.320
portion of them's hoaxes. And I'm not out here. I'm

1145
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.039
not looking to make no money. I'm not I'm just

1146
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.079
sharing my experiences. I got nothing to gain from out

1147
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.199
of this. As a matter of fact, you probably got

1148
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.199
more to lose than you got the game because people

1149
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:38.880
are going nuts. I'm just sharing my experiences like everybody

1150
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.840
else is doing. And I don't know. Like I like said,

1151
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.000
a lot of people say that you need there's no

1152
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:47.199
it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what video you have,

1153
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:50.039
what audio recording. You have to always say, oh, that

1154
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.280
was your buddy running through the woods making them holes

1155
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.039
and them hoots. And there will always be people to

1156
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.239
debunk everything, no matter what video, what footage you have,

1157
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.000
and it doesn't matter. And then these people say all

1158
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.360
this technology and all the video cameras and all the

1159
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:07.360
trail cameras, there's all the pictures and it doesn't matter

1160
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:10.639
because if you do get a picture, they're gonna they're

1161
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:15.119
gonna say it's not real anyways. And they all use

1162
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.400
trail cameras. They're all over the place. Everybody has, everybody

1163
01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:22.840
sticks from. But number one, they manipulate the electronics, and

1164
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:27.679
number two they work off infra red and anything electronic

1165
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.960
puts out whatever a magnetic field, a pulse or whatever.

1166
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:32.880
They know it's there. If they want to avoid it,

1167
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.880
they're gonna avoid it. So it's just I don't know.

1168
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.079
I don't know. I don't know. If I don't know,

1169
01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:41.639
I wantest to go. I think it would be up

1170
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.719
to them. And I think maybe that this is their

1171
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:50.960
thing of maybe slowly introducing this stuff to the public,

1172
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:55.000
because obviously with the Internet and all the thing's going

1173
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.239
on today, it's all out there and it's a lot

1174
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:02.079
more mainstream, and they both of you and it's more popular,

1175
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:05.960
and so there's maybe this is their way having more

1176
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:10.039
experiences with people and people sharing their experiences and just

1177
01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.960
getting it all out there. I don't know, but it

1178
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:18.199
just seems like there's more experiences happening. But I don't know.

1179
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:20.319
That's my feelings on it.

1180
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:23.560
It's I agree with you. It's a thing where I

1181
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.119
do this so that people have a place to share

1182
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.600
with the experience. But also I look at it as

1183
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.600
if I keep putting water in the bathtub, eventually everything's

1184
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.800
going to overflow them. If all these podcasts keep putting

1185
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.560
stuff out there, and you got all the YouTube shows

1186
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:42.920
and all that, eventually it has to be addressed by

1187
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:48.199
someone that is higher up, right, That's just and we'll

1188
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:48.960
see what happens.

1189
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.640
But that's just like the ufoth are slowly leaking out

1190
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:57.199
UFO stuff. And that's like I said, I'm mentioned before.

1191
01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:00.840
I feel like it's I'm more like whatever the spiritual

1192
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.720
side of it, interdimensional, spiritual, I think it's all related.

1193
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:08.760
And so the only I never had so the only

1194
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:14.239
spiritual thing ever had happened was in the hospital. I

1195
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:15.840
think I'm not sure if it was my son or

1196
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:17.439
my daughter. I can't remember right to say that, but

1197
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:21.880
I think it was my son. And we were it

1198
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:25.479
was right after the birth, and we were in the

1199
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:27.640
in the hospital room and we were laying there and

1200
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.319
my wife, she's her name is Sandy, and she's laying

1201
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.000
in the bed and I was sitting next to her,

1202
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.880
and Mark was laying right next to door, right between us, basically,

1203
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:43.439
and her mother passed away years ago in two thousand

1204
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:47.800
and one. I believe she had a brain aneurysm, and

1205
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.800
but she had a way that she said her name

1206
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.840
like she was saying Sandy. She always emphasized her name.

1207
01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:59.279
And We're laying there and it was quiet, We're watching TV,

1208
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:02.800
but the volume was down low, and I heard her

1209
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:06.680
mother say her name, like that is Sandy, and she

1210
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:11.000
looked at me, and I looked at her and I says,

1211
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:13.520
you heard that, didn't you sees, Yeah, my mother just

1212
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.920
said my name. I was like, oh my god, And

1213
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.479
like I said, this was I guess Mark was born

1214
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:23.640
in two thousand and six. So that was definitely a

1215
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.640
moment because we both heard it. We looked at each

1216
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:28.720
other and we at the moment we heard that, and

1217
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:32.319
that was strange. But as far as I hear stories

1218
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.640
of these things following you home and going in your

1219
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:38.399
house and inviting bad things in, I hope none of

1220
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:41.439
that ever happens to me. But yeah, so I hope

1221
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:44.399
that never happens. But I don't know, like what's happening

1222
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.800
to me now? Like I said, it's almost it's very rarely.

1223
01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:52.039
Other than screams once on a blue moon, and actually

1224
01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:54.439
just the only screams that were like at the beginning

1225
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.439
that you know, the Halloween night thing. And like I said,

1226
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.760
I think we cut them off. We were coming out

1227
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.359
of woods, they were going up the valley, we were

1228
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:04.039
coming down the valley, and I think we had their

1229
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.720
family group separated. That's why they got aggressive air. And

1230
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:11.680
then I think that little one that about a month ago.

1231
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:15.880
But typically it's you know, I don't know, it's called friendly,

1232
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.760
but it's not scary. I don't get. You know, That's

1233
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.079
the other thing. A lot of people talk about the

1234
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:25.960
feeling of dread and the infrasound and and all that.

1235
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.279
I've never gotten out of that. I never got no feeling.

1236
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:31.760
I'm scared because you're dealing with something you don't know.

1237
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:36.680
But I never got that feeling of dread and the

1238
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:39.800
stuff like that immense fear like a lot of people

1239
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:43.239
talk about. But I mean, I'm obviously scared because you know,

1240
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:45.800
because like I said, and they're never alone and it's

1241
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:48.439
they always seem to surround it or whatever. Three four,

1242
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.279
three or four of them usually said that kind of

1243
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.359
freaks out a little. But but I don't know. I

1244
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:56.319
guess I'll just see what happens here in the future,

1245
01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:00.760
and you know we can keep in touch me. I

1246
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.439
will send you, I'll send you videos.

1247
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:08.960
And yes, please, I would love love to see them. Yeah, yeah, And.

1248
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.199
Like I said, I will, I'll put a note on

1249
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.399
what goes to what. And then there's also at that

1250
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.399
footprint in Colorado from a few weeks ago, a month ago,

1251
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:22.960
and there's that there's I'm telling you you just if

1252
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.119
you showed this on your podcast, you need to let

1253
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:27.199
it up ever long enough for people to look at it.

1254
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:30.079
And if you look into the center that footprint, there's

1255
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:35.079
an image of a subsquatch in the center that footprint,

1256
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:38.119
his head, the big eyes, the cone head and it's

1257
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.840
right in the center the footprint, and that kind of

1258
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:41.399
freaked me out.

1259
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:46.840
That's wild, Dave. It has been just a pleasure having

1260
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:49.399
you on the show. And I can almost guarantee your

1261
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:52.720
story is not over it. I can just you're probably

1262
01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:55.479
going to have more stuff happen in the future and

1263
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:58.039
you and your son and who knows. And I would

1264
01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:00.439
love if you'd be able to keep in touch in

1265
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:01.600
the future for sure.

1266
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:05.960
Sure, yep, And yeah, I'd love to and I'll see

1267
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:10.359
what happens in the future. I'm going up Todays, what Tuesday,

1268
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.119
I'm going up forer Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

1269
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.960
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1270
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:20.199
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1271
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:24.159
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1272
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:27.479
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1273
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:32.800
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1274
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1275
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:40.000
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1276
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1277
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.880
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1278
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1279
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1291
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1292
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