There's more than Bigfoot and Portals up on the Mountain!

0:00 Welcome to the big Foot Society. In this episode, I talked to Chris from northern Ontario and Ronda from the Rendezvous Mountain in western North Carolina. You've experienced something similar to what they have or have more information regarding Bigfoot cryptids or even portals in the same areas, please reach out to me immediately after this episode, and if you had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, please contact me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, and also make sure you check out Patreon dot com forward slash the big Foot Society where you can become a member and get extra episodes every single week. And now on with the show, you can still call in. We still got the time, We're still live, We're still live plan X. I'm really digging the intro. Very cool. Props to you or who am ever else helped make it so I made it myself that is. Oh sorry, I'm getting a call. Accept press one. The sennail pressed hello Snap, I don't think it's working. Hello Hi there, Hi, this is Jeremiah.

1:19 Hi. Hi, thank you for calling in? And is it uh Goshi man? Correct? Yes? Do you prefer going by that or how would you like to go by we can go with my first name? Sure? What's that Chris? Did you say Chris? Yeah? All right, Well thank you for calling in, Chris. I appreciate you calling in and you were able to go ahead and fill out the guest release form correct. Awesome.

2:00 Well I'm going to go. I'll feel free. I'll go ahead and uh give the floor over to you and whatever you would like to share tonight, You're more than welcome. Yeah. Twenty five year old Native man from Aerie O, Canada, Northern Ontario. Yeah. Or I'm very remote. I don't have phone line. Like the only way I can get through New York today is through the storming satellite your wife wife. So if I seem to mow the uh in the podcast or whatever there, that's the problem. The signal strike dropping a motment. But well, I just wanted to share some stories I've had my community, my very smaller is only maybe two people that live here the reservation that's remote, one hundred and fifty kilometers away from the nearest when you're the Quebec border here that know what Ontario looks like.

3:12 I don't know what's tower him to start with, because they were both pretty scary. I guess the least scary one. My family and I built this cabin at this lake because of like new fishing and hunting kind of thing all the time. Ever since the little boy, I would always go hunting with my father. But there's this encounter has happened to me. It was like ten years ago. It's a very my hand in the encounter which has gone out moose by myself in it. All in all my life wasn't even thinking of bigfoot sasquatch they whatever they would call him. I parked my truck in this gravel pit and I started walking down this the gravel pit into the just the woods right because I had heard a moose calling in the background. And when I got off the gravel pit, I could see the lake where this moose was at MH. So I'm walking down this little train. I give the game trail the animals that music. So that's why I was following, because it's actually clearing in the direction of the lake and I was just trying

4:46 fast access to get to that moose. So I started walking down this trail. You know, it's about maybe a lot mores. I have to go where I'm wearing this loose in the ground. I'm walking for a if I were ten minutes, you know, it's normal. It's the day. It's like one verry, two o'clock afternoon. Yeah. I just go around this little bend in the trail and then I come across a structure. I was locking the trail. I wasn't. I was just wondering, well, that's kind of weird. I was seeing anything like that around here before. Well, how am I going to get around it? So I started looking to the side, never avoid going over this tall structure, and the sides were were all brushing and it was way too thick. I would a gun.

5:43 I goed up in there very badly. So I knew I couldn't do that. So I started with the structure again, and I'm looking at how it's placed right, because where we are it's pine tree, and you know these foot long pieces of water stacked onto each other, kind of like going up on a little slant. So it's right I climb that thing. So I slung my rifle and I started climbing, like I said, top and bending up all the boat I don't know, off the ground. So after I looked at how high I wasn't turn around and start making my way back, you know, to get down give a sign of this structure. As I'm I'm looking down on the very top of this pile, and there's this, you know, there's a perfectly square hole. And I said, oh my god, that's weird. These trees land like this, you know, And so I started looking at the trees. I'm crawling over because I got sap over my hands, like these are fresh trees. And you know, they weren't cut with anything. They just looked like someone, you know, just snap them off and placed them there. I thought, oh my god,

7:14 it's it's really cool. What's going on here? You know, maybe there's some kids and I don't know. Yeah. I turned my head back to this hole, this dark hole. It's in the shape of almost where the top of this pile and way out of my stomach. And I'm looking down this hole because it's really dark in there, right, and I'm looking at mom, letting my eyes and just all of a sudden, I see this little like a white flash. Right. I was like, what is that? I mean, well, they needs an animal. It's running across them.

7:58 No, finally, my eyes just right the heart I'm looking into and I don't know how I'm looking, and I see this face looking up at me, and then it's a black person's got hair, you know, it's you know, people like to say sasquatched look like they're human looking, but miss they've had our features as human, but very destroyed. They look nothing like the ones out west. Are totally down here. And he's you know, he's grinning, flashing his teeth. No big black person staring at me and just grinning, grimacing, and you know, looking at it, What the heck can that happen? Man? You know, of course before I got to be seeing things. So you know, I close my eyes around my eyes, you know, I count the five and I look again.

9:00 My eyes adjustments still there, you know, and it's got this fricking RNT on his face, and you know that's termly crap at him. So you know, I just stood up and I remember rifle down. It's whatever this thing is, this pile of trees, and I jumped from the top to the bottom and I grabbed my gun and I start running back this hill up towards the gravel pit too, my truck because it's you know, it's it's quite a ways away with you know, half klomber. It made me a kilometer away. And as I'm running, I keep hearing the you know this weird family. I mean, I've never heard it before. Wah wah really deep deep, right, I can never go with my voice like that.

9:54 And you know, the tree starts snapping and I started hearing womps and haul or even come back, and this thing was so I just figured her out of my truck. My truck sat there like myself, you know, and like home. You know, I've made it home in record time. And to be honest with you, I don't even remember to drive home. I just remember looking, you know, in the mirror, and one of these things we're gonna try and chase me, right, mm hmmm. Unfortunately, no, nothing like that happened. But it seems like they just chased me out of that area. And once I got out to my vehicle, they I didn't see them anymore. I couldn't hear them. So, you know, like what if I learned another year pastes? Okay, So I'm gonna go hunting again in that spot, you know, and there's no way I seen what I've seen here. They'll see another thing like that. Whenever that was right, it's gonna that's once in lifetime stuff. Man. So you know, I go down there, I'm going walking down the game trail again, and I'm looking around from that structure and it's not there anymore. So you know, I start circling up the circle, trying to track it right where I go where go wear lows material. I look at that for about you know, five hundred meters, and you know there's no side of these

11:28 trees are gone nothing, there's nothing there. I took my hand, just wondering. You know, I'm like going crazy, what what happened? So the same as before, you know, I just parked at the gravel pit, I started walking the game trail. M hm. Anyways, you know I started hiking. Know, I was just like because I want to see if there's moves back in that lake way in the back there. So you know, I get my rifle out and I'm just gonna open my shoulder just walking down the trail looking at things. You know, I'm not thinking anything, but you know, I'm just out doing my saying, hunting to put in the freezer for my family and my community. That is right. M mm hmm. But then you know, everything's quiet, like nearly quiet.

12:31 I never heard your bush going that quiet. Oh my god, that's so strange. But to me as a hunter, when that happens, you know, that's a good sign for me because I can hear what I'm hunting way matter right, And yeah, that's just the way I view that. But that really didn't scary, so I just kept knowing mm hmmm. So I started walking towards Lakeman, and you know, sure enough there's a gold loose back there, and I'll almost have to make find this point well within shooting distance in this moose. So I load the rifle, you know, and taking him, you know, do the practical things and being a good hunter, right, you're gonna look where your shot is going to go, and that measure nobody's around, and all that kind of stuff where your boy is ultimately gonna end up. So I'm doing that. I'm gonna get the loose.

13:30 I got him where I'm gonna where I'm gonna place my shot, And all of a sudden, I hear this loud snap behind me right away. You know, my brain thinks, oh my god, there's something here with you. Listen, the bear and the loose you know, you better defend yourself, so around and your naming degrees and there's a freaking well. What I thought right away was, oh my god, that's a freaking moment, you know, because that's how how ugly and scary this thing was. I think it was a tuvinile because you know, I'm six foot tall and I don't know like two pounds, and this thing that's standing there is you know, it's absolutely ripped and muscles and long hair, just standing there looking at it. Point my rifle at it, and he's looking at me, just looking at the rifle and me the rifle. Then why he's doing that.

14:39 He starts opening his lips, his lips curled up and I can flip like a almost like a switch, And when he did that, he was just staring at my rifle. Right I was just thinking, oh my god, this thing is so ugly. And you know, this sounds like I guess people call it who or whatever. But when I thought that, I said, oh my god, this fucking thing is ugly. Menacing is you know, it's the form that it's ugly. And then right away it felt like I got a spot in my hands, like fuck, you. You're ugly, you know, and I thought, oh my god, so I shook my hand. I was still pointing to my flat and scot these teeth that are in the shape and triangles like a shark, right, and these teeth are they're stained yellow and they're they're cracked broken off some of them, but they looked like shark team. And so I started looking at the rest of the face. You know, it's gonna big, flat, wide nose, big nostrils, pear and black klock face and face you know, like almost like Marandom black men. It was absorbing, lightable, and you know, I'm looking at his eyes. Well, we're gonna be careful when I say I'm looking at his eyes here, because it does have two eyes, right,

16:11 but like our faces, one eye is aware. It was supposed to be up on the eye socket orbital mom there, and his other eye. It was a good age below that, so his eyes in the line up, and you know, I'm just looking at it and mm hmmm, I'm going back to thinking, oh my god. Right from still point my gun at this thing, I'm threatening this thing. You know, when I'm looking at the rest of his body, his companies, you know, maybe three to four inches long hair. You know it's hair because I see it, you know, it's blowing in the wind. And then I'm looking at him his torso area. You know it was built like us, but just extremely muscular and like Arnold Schwartzeker couldn't hold a candle listening in his mast case mm hmm. And then you know he's got hair on his chest, but it looks like on his right side he's he's missing hair and it's broad bloody's like it's great marks and stuff. Mm hmm. Like I don't know if that's from I don't know whatever they do, if he's climbing trees or he's crawling on the ground or whatever. But and then that that partment is stuck out

17:41 for me and I cognizant and my wife at this time right because I'm not practicing good good uh sportsmanlike conduct. Right, I'm gonna be careful in this gun. So I'm thinking, okay, without he estimated this whole situation here, like you guys are you know, like this thing is just padding it right there in front of rights and hit my barrow. They can reach out and grab me anytime. It was and I think you grab me, because this fucking thing has has on it, you know, and it's got these long cloth or not cloths or I can most be past an inch to an inch long past where the fingers an, you know, those are all black and cracked. So I got to escalate this man, because I'm looking at this thing, and I got a thirty odd six rifle and I'm looking at I'm thinking this, I'm not going to be enough gun. And that's a big rifle. You know, this thing was sold jacked. I thought, oh my god, you know, if you're gonna shoot this thing, you're gonna have to shoot it in the eye and the bad again. Right, I get this, this thought, but no, don't shoot. So I started luring my rifle very slowly because I don't know if I can trust this thing. You know, this thing looks like a fucking demon. Man.

19:06 I don't know what it's going to do to me, you know, Because I don't know, I just called eslating things, so I did. I lowered the rifle very very slowly. While I was doing that, his lips were closing over his teeth. And once I had the rifle pointed at the ground, there was no more. It was just lips. No. Now that things are fiasking me if this thing takes two steps backwards, it's it's palm up to me, it's right, palm like like we tell people to stop, okay, and then he leans back and because you know how we do, like when we were kids in gym, we would do like a craft walk. Well he was doing that and he had his hand up saying stuff and being like that right, and so you know, a fucking end, just do what their gut tells you. So I, you know, I close my eyes, took a neat breath open and looked at it and still there, and I'm terrified out of my mind here, like you know, I'm almost I don't know, man, I think it's just the average

20:37 person sees what I thought. I genuinely believe their heart couldn't stop just from seeing their face. Maybe that's why they hide their face. I don't know, but yeah, I just leaned my thirty or six rifle against that was besign us. I started talking and creating to it because this thing is giving off this it's vibe like it's old, right, but I'm looking at it and I know it's not old. It's like a truthful, I almost, but it's still giving me this like ancient feeling, right, so brand in my brain things start talking, creating to it, right because that's your language, you know, So I do that. I sh talk and I thought, I you know, and there's things just looking at me. You know, I just looked at it. And I'm not going to hurt you.

21:40 You're not gonna hurt me. And we can hurt each other, man, but you know who's gonna walk away the winter at this? Is it really worth? It's what my eyes count the five And all I hear is this thing running away now from something like really fast? My patent can hear it? You're breaking tree? Can hear them running? So I opened my eyes, look around. There's a footprint in the sand there. I don't care about that, man. I have myself one of my my my hunting here with me, and I didn't even think once the grab it because this thing was too scary. MM. So you know I get out of there, right. If I get out of there, the famous before start running back in the truck. You know, I know I'm not supposed to run because you know that the triggers are predatory instincts, right, all animals and planet Earth may have that, and they made sense in them. See they see it as weakness. And no, I don't care because I'm too scared.

22:55 I'm alone. I haven't told him money where I'm going. No, I just want to get away. You know, this thing left of your eye got to get out of her too. You know. I get in my truck the same thing as before. You know, I don't do the metal wall in my home, and I don't even remember getting home. I thing I remember is pulling into my driveway and wow, I was home. I got my kids together and brought them in the house, kept them with me. On the next couple of days, I worked, you know out in my head man, And those are my two encounters that I've had. Thanks Chris, thank you for sharing that. Uh, it was absolutely incredible that you were able to make it through that. Yeah. You know, when I tell the people around my community what I've seen and stuff like that, and I'm very much I know here. You know, people know I don't make things up and stuff like that, so they know I saw what I saw. There's no question about that. For sure. Have there been other other people that have seen similar things in the same area. Oh my god.

24:18 Yeah, yeah, you know we have them right here in the community now in the community. Yeah. Yeah, Like my wife went to go take care of her aunts, uh, her apartment here, her house just because that was gone on, you know, some business trips. You wanted somebody who's seen her as a cat and washed the house and the big break, same kind of thing, right, So she went there and stayed there over night. She came home, want to go pick her up. We went to go pick her up. There was there's tracks underneath the window where they were staying, you know, the big picture window, you know, and then ginger with my wife was hang, you know, a cat was being so strange. She wouldn't come up from one of the men. That cat was, you know, like a very loving cat and got along with every money. Eh, it's very unusual for that cat. H And we've seen those prints. She didn't even know. No, I didn't feel nothing, I didn't see anything. And that the others complex we have here in our community because now there he always goes up walking around and the woes behind the building there. You know, he takes videos and pictures and everything, and he's got all kinds of signed up there. You know, tree breaks, you know, we don't care about those. Anything can make those right.

25:44 But you know he's got these little teepeek structures and all those kind of weird symbols. Yeah, you know, that's how my wife and I went out hunting. We went to this place called Gold's Mountains, which is very close for our communit, I mean. And I was on the road where, you know, I'm like to found this spot my ghost down, and I said, okay, we're gonna hunt for the moves here. You know I got one here before. So we got at bar chairs up, sitting out there, start calling moose. My wife tugs on my shoulder and looks over mind. She points something in a tree and about I don't know, maybe twelve or fifteen feet off the ground, and this they merged trees and a bunch of skin passing toes hanging. I'm very pipsol as small as branches like little Christmas walls. Almost. Oh my god, it's weird, you know. So I parked my truck underneath it might popped up waiting on top of the cab trying to reach these things and I can't reach them. Yeah, you know, so okay, whenever that's you know, maybe somebody did that. We don't know. She got this weird feelings like no, no, no, I'm really scared. We got to go. We've got to go. So, you know, we left. And then another time, her youth couch there here in the community, was walking through her little patch of woods on her way home about midnight. She was sister and playing home

27:17 from her friends. So she's walking through this little wood patch. You know, she was walking in the dark. She got a little wire she's flicking from light. Right about halfway through the woods, she sees these two red eyes about six inches apart, staring at her, fall fing off the ground. She screamed, and she ran all the way home, and that thing chased her all the way home until they hit the house loot. But they would not come up into the open. She said, no, no, our local jump here. People see them all the time, like in the summertime. There people just going to dump off their garmage. Right now.

28:06 Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen a bear running on some lings. It's got to be a bear. There's no such thing as bigfoot, you know, but they see these things, you know, some some people. Not people know all I had it's just fast watch. Then that's our brother. It's a protective Yeah, we know him. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of a lot of little stories like that I could tell you about our community here. I just don't want to take up too much time on this livestream. I don't want to hog it all your time. I think we're good. Has anyone ever like captured, actually gotten like a video or or photo of any other creatures near your community. No, there's no actual pictures of these things, just just track and stuff like that. Gotcha, there was a there is a question that came in and I'm going to say a certain way you thinking back to when you were able to really look into the face of the creature during your encounters, did that remind you of anything that you've seen before in the realm of Bigfoot or anything like that. Well,

29:36 the very first thought that off in my mind was is like the form of human in the eyes, right, the deep deep wrinkles in its forehead those you know, his forehead was so loosing, you know, like weird. I've never seen that before. But the very first thoughts off of my mind would be just because how scary as continues source of my language. It's very emotional in calling these things because you know, you think they're still out here. Yeah, I don't even go out hunting anymore because of that. I'll go out in the daytime with people, you know, but I used to go hunting in right as well. But no way I'll do that anymore.

30:22 You know, can do that thing. No, that thing got so close and it could have had any for wantity. You could have grabbed me at any time. Are there any situations that have come up over the years where those creatures like the sasquatch became aggressive to individuals in the community, or there is any like violent interactions or anything like that. No, No, I've lost around, you know, I've lost the yeldre Is, you know, the hunters and the communities and no, no, you know they yell and scream the chase, but that's about it. You know, it will hurt you, that's what they're saying. But you know, they weren't as close as I was. I seen that thing. Then that thing gave off of death fly one hundred percent predator kidney about Yeah, was there any hair on the face at all? Yep? Okay, I was just going to ask a few random questions about did you notice anything in any details about like the shape of the head at all. Yeah, it was it wasn't cold, Okay, I was in the shape of where a lot of people say, oh, you know, it's just a very just misidentifying a mainstream were right, But I've been hunting way too long to make that kind of mistake.

31:56 And I've been hunting all my life. I lived here all my life. I know where we're in these words. Well, I thought I did, but the head was like, uh was a cold shake, but it was kind of like, uh, like an egg almost, because it was like, yeah about egg almost. Did you notice anything particular about when you saw the teeth at all. No, it's just that they were worn down right or a cracked or staying yellow. You know. When the teeth were together, they looked perfectly together, like just like a shark woodman. Mm hmm. Yeah. I've been looking online for the closest thing that I can guess who it is, Jesus channel. It's called World the Radio. There's a white sasquatch on there. Okay, but they missed they listened as when to go. What I seen was not a wind that was watch Are there other things that you have to deal with in your community besides sasquatch or is that the main thing that you have to be aware of up there? No,

33:27 Like when I was a teenage and was some weird stuff that would happen, you know, like I don't know, like jeez, the one where my wife was in the room when her son they were sleeping. It was just a baby. She was just laying in bed sleeping. Since she something woke her up, right, she opened her eyes and there was this shadow thing there. That's why I ever met by hovering over her bed. She started screaming from me because I was and over. You're watching communities and this thing had you know, said well, why didn't you see? What are you screaming? Oh? There was something here that was flowing along to the bed and had glowing eyes and we're sparkling like stars might disappeared when we came down the hall turned on the right. I didn't see it anymore. Sot of stuff like that right now, medicine people saying we have a rock here in the community, anythink bulger anything granite boulder and uh. Because I was on the chief and council and we're going to move that rock when you're going to destroy it and bury it and blow it up. This medicine man was doing a workshop and the tutes and are right beside this rock. A bunch of us pulled up there and we're talking discussing about this rock, right and you can comes out this medicine man from six Nations in the mohawk the google

35:04 over there and get ready to get them into this rock. You know, than I saw, Oh no, no, no, you can't do that. You can't do that. I pray over there. So that energy coming from ny one. Look at what are you talking about? A lot? Right? No, no, no, it's not just a rock and little people in there. There's a spirit in there. If he destroyed that rock, blad things are going to happen in the community. And just in the fact that he's the best thing that you have to honor. Right, So we've never been blowing up with that rock. And I know my kids going there all the time. They play on it, but they have lunch and stuff there, you know, and they play around it all the time.

35:49 Yeah, just things like Fanny, can you say it's grane? Yeah, Oh wow, that's very interesting. There's something I want to address, so I have the map up as well on YouTube. Is it near the Ghost Range or you said Ghost Mountain or is that completely different area Ghost Mountains? Ye, so that is near Ghost Range then yeah, okay, fair enough see here. Oh have you had any any like missing person cases around your area? Oh no, no, no, we're waiting too small community from that. If anybody I wrote missing here, we'd all go searching, right, okay, gotcha, sure, sure, sure see it sounds like it's a very small community then oh yeah, tiny, yeah, gotcha. Going back to there's a question from the chat real quick, what what color were the eyes again of the Sasquatch? You're black? Wow? Not that is scary. They look so different comparab the ones out west. You know, if I saw last watching out west, I'd be like cool man, you

37:21 know, uh, walk up to you know, try and communicate with it and everything. But not the ones around here. Man. The way, those are super models out there right right. They're like the they're the ones on the greeting cards out there. There's another question from the chat. Do you ever see UFO activity in your area? Oh? Yes, we have that too yet Okay, just like uh like orbs or actual UFO is flying around or well we've seen UFOs flying ring. Well we think of zerr fols because you know they accelerate and accelerate so fast. M h and being human technology, man, sure people talk about all the time here. Oh yeah, it's a beautiful cool man. Yeah. Yeah, you know what kind of what shapes are they usually seeing? As they just looked like lights to us, Okay, yeah, yeah. The only one that when they comes to mind is, uh, someone's seeing this black triangle floating now in your house, which we're quiet, just floating. Kid. This boy wasn't that kid. He was a teenager and he's seventeen years old. He was biting home on the driveway. Then there's this black floating triangle and red lights on it over his house. Yeah on the bottom. He said, yeah,

38:57 three of them. What you do, manny, I just threw my mics down. I ran in my house in my room, close the blines, locked the door, and yeah in my game, man, I'll oh, that's some scary stuff right there. There's always high stranges and reservations. Have you have you guys, ever run into any creatures there at all? Or maybe in in stories where it's like a kind of like a white humanoid type creature, very skinny, very pale. No, no, nothing like that.

39:42 Okay, good, that's a good thing, because those are not a good deal. The only other thing we have is the thing called a windy go. Sure, but it's been since our people have seen that. We haven't seen that year since within the last hundred years. Because in order to become a chief of our first nation, like a long time ago. Yeah, but actually go out and slay one of these things and bring back proof to your people, really and your people. I mean, here's the evidence. You know, I'm the chief now and money wants to take away from me. You're going to go and do what I did? Right that I've never heard of that. That's really interesting. So that is a thing that doesn't happen anymore. No, Okay, Mike, and the chat, and thank you Mike for being a YouTube channel member. He's asking, is this in the Timmins area of Ontario. Yeah, that's all I'm going to say, is near Timmins? Yes, okay, fair enough. Yeah, we don't want to give any thing. No, I don't know, because you know, we helicopters here and I don't know what those are, but nobody here who knows what they're doing. Right. They used to work lands and

41:15 resources to be here. Okay, and our band members, why are these black choppers playing route? What's going on? Chris, go find out what's going on? Right? So I called the I called the local air force here and simmon and hey, we got these black chokers out here and nobody knows what's going on. Can you guys fill us in me? The person that I was speaking to you said, oh, that's the armed forces. The air force says, yeah, I'll tell you what. What they do is they just come into our airport. They call them to a hangar, and that's all we know. I don't know what they do. We don't know where they go. They kick you out of your your your hangar, their hangar. Yeah. Okay, So there's a military base close to where you guys are at. I don't know if there is another old military bases around here, but they're like the commissioned Okay, so it's like just like an air force area. You're saying, or yeah, wow, something's going on out there, dude. Well obviously, because you I mean what you've said, Obviously, something that's going on. Yeah, yeah, mm hmm.

42:37 Chris. I appreciate you calling in and sharing what you've seen, the stories from your community, and it's it's very special that you're able to share those because I know a lot of times you don't hear a lot about about situations like that. But Chris, you're You're always welcome to reach out. You can always email me directly if you need to Big Society at gmail dot com if you ever have any other interesting things happen in the future. But thank you for calling in. Definitely, yeah, no problem. I just want to say that, you know, the only reason why I want to share my encounters is just to bring awareness to people that you know, even the skeptics man seeing is believing, right, and I hope you don't have to, but that's probably the only proof that they're going to take and everybody else I do believe in them. They are real, man, absolutely, Just please be careful, please please be careful, and that will bet you guys all the good night. Thank you for calling Chris. Well you have a good day, man, all right, take care. That was absolutely wild, My goodness, Tonight has been probably the best live episode we have

44:12 ever had on this show. I'm just blown away. I'm absolutely blown away. This is crazy. Chris, Thank you so much for calling in. I mean, guys, you don't hear stuff from small First Nation communities like that in northern Canada. I mean, let me look again. How let's see. Yeah, that's where it is, wild stuff. Thank you so much for being here tonight. There's almost eighty people in here still. We've been going for over two hours. It's getting late, though, and I appreciate you all being here. Holy mackerel, what is this? Should we call back another one? Someone tell me in the chat if we should call back someone else. Mhm h m hm hm h h. Yeah, all right, Lais Layer is saying yes. All right, guys, get get your coffee. I'm gonna play the intro again while I get cued up.

45:44 I'm gonna take a walk around. All right, we're back. I'm gonna we We actually just got a call at the end of the one from Chris, so I'm going to see I don't think this is a phone number that I've let me see. Nope, all right, let's see. Hello. Hi, this is Jeremiah. How's it going, Hey, Jeremiah, This is Ronda. Oh is this Rhonda from from YouTube? Yes, from YouTube. Oh my goodness, no way, Ronda. Wow, I'm a little tired. I've worked all week, so okay, I've multiple things that are going on up here in western North Carolina. Sorry, real quick, Ronda, were you you filled out the guest release form? Right? Of course?

46:47 Yeah? Of course? Great? Okay, yeah, Ronda, I'm gonna go ahead and give it right over to you. The floor is yours, and we may have some questions at the end, but feel free to share what you'd like. Ronda. Okay, I'm well, since this is a Bigfoot podcast, it all cryptids because I've had everything from orbs to alien grace. There's this mountain up here, I'm outside of Wolkesboro, North Carolina, that I go up to a lot with my dogs. I don't know, I'm kind of tiring, I'm kind of this, but anyhow, I go up and down this mountain a lot and it's called Rendezvous Mountain, and there's a Native American water fodder and everything. You know. I just drive up this mountain to get up there with my dogs and hang out and you know, just talk to God or whatever. And on this one afternoon comes down the mountain and it's at this time time of the year too. It was like a couple of days before my birthday March twenty twenty two, at the end March, I went up there again today to see what I could find or whatnot. I've found, you know, all sorts of stuff up there. But anyhow, coming back down the mountain, you know, it's

48:21 got all these switchbacks. There's one way up and one way down. But if you get on top of the mountain, I mean it goes forever. You could run into the Blue Ridge Parkway. They've only got a certain part of the mountain open for people to there and hid. So coming back down, I'm like, uh, what is that big? What is that big? Uh? Like stone? We're there. I've never seen that before. And then I'm like, wait a minute, and I'm looking and I'm dragging them ountain. I've got chips sitting up front, my little beef in the back. I'm like, is that teeth? Is that tea? I mean the mouth was gigantic and not stone. It was like a boulder. This creature had to be between anywhere to six to eight hundred pounds. So I get right up and you know, because I'm coming down the mountain. It's to the left of me, and I'm like, wait a minute. And so it's so hard to explain. So it's like the creature is laying on its stomach. I see it eat, and the middle part of its face is hidden like behind a tree. Why it's trying to hide at seven to eight hundred pounds, who knows. But then I made I act with it, and then that's when my heart just you know, went right to my

49:55 feet. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, this is a monster. I'm looking at a monster. And as soon as I made I took off down the mountain. I'm forty five. I'm like, let me slow down, let me slow down a little bit, because I'm gonna kill myself. I'm gonna go right off the mountain. But when I got to the bottom, I'm just texting everybody. I'm like, nobody's gonna believe me. Nobody's gonna believe me. I ran into creature. But any child, Let me go back a little bit to about you know, a year or two prior me and my son, If you could pull Wilkesboro Miller's Creek up on your map, you would be able to tell I live off of sixteen, but there's an old sixteen too, which me and my son.

50:54 He used to go around with me a lot, you know, looking for different kinds and stuff, and time around eleven thirty at night, we'd get like a big loop And so is he ever seeing this creature up here? We have heard whistles going through Old sixteen. I don't care. It's called Rendezvous Mountain. It's outside of Wolkes Roe Miller's Creek and you'll see Rendezvous Mountains. But and there's a there's an old sixteen too, and that'll get into Jefferson and everything. And that's where we heard the whistles. But prior to me seeing this creature going around the mountain, because we would go out like real late at night, me and my son between eleven and you know, three m driving around looking seeing what we could find. And one night we're coming up to the base of Rendezvous Mountain and my son's like, you know, what the heck is that? What he's like? Those lights? And it was a red orb and a white orb, and the white orb was chasing the red orb. And we stopped in the middle of the road and we just watched and once it figgered that we were watching it, they started to come towards us. Then my son freaked out and then drove off.

52:23 I'm like, may turn around, dang it, turn around. We're never going to find out what it is. But he wouldn't turn around. But also with this, with this mountain where I've seen the creature, right in the area where I've seen the creature at there's like glitches, like a glitch in time, like sometimes I'll start get in a panic attack, and I thought, well, maybe it's just me. But I felt like it was taking a long time to come off the mountain, like I was driving over the same part of the road again and again. You know, it's it's hard to explain. And I took my son up there, my other son.

53:09 I have three boys, and then my oldest is a is a girl. They're near late twenties. And I took my son, who's autistic, up there with me. He is Ashbergers, and oh my god, we've had so many deans happened in the last ten years. But I took him up there with me. I don't try to, you know, I don't want to scare him or any he knows I have seen Bigfoot, but then we were coming down the mountain. He's like, does it seem that we're not coming off the mountain, that it's taken longer to come off the mountain. I'm like, yeah, that's what I thought. He is Ashbergers, which is high function in autism. Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought. Maybe you know it's it's like glitches. Now I could tell you some other stuff that seems just really crazy. I've reached out to a couple other shows, but nobody's really it's crazy if I tell you what has happened to me, it's just even thinking about what I'm about ready to tell you, I know how crazy it seems. I mean, go ahead, I don't get me kicked off YouTube. Oh no, it's not bad, and I'm I'm not trying to curse or anything like that. Sure. Now, when we first moved here up into the mountains, we came down from Michigan, which I've had experiences up in Michigan too. That's why I'm beginning to

54:43 wonder if, like me, if I'm a content for these things. I don't even know if I'm saying it right. If I just attract these things. But when I first moved down here from Michigan with my boys. My daughter wanted me to come here. And at the first house we moved in, I mean we're out in the woods in the middle of you know, nowhere. And when I you know, I was just meditating and everything and just contemplating stuff and just really meditating and singing this manager, which people would say that would be evil or whatever. Anyhow, something started to speak to me telepathically and I'm like, whoa, it's And it wasn't like it was speaking whatever. It was making me feel about the plant and the earth and the creatures. And there's not much much time left, but there's a chance to fix what we've done. And I'm like, well, god, this was really intense. And I was drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes at the laptop, you know, late at night. So I went back in my bedroom because that's for my bathroom Jack to go to the bathroom. And this should get you kicked up, but I was sitting, you know, getting ready to get up and wipe, and I was like, you know, old country house. The windows are all open back, their curtains blowing, and

56:15 I'm like, wait, there, I should be able to see a light out the back window, and then all of a sudden, it came through the back window and it was an alien gray and its eyes for gigantic. It had classical shaped head. It didn't have a bridge for a nose. It had two little dots, and in mind, I was thinking it had a little tiny mouth. I'm like, well, good, it's not going to eat me. But I need to get past my window to get out of this bed room. So I jumped in the bathtub and I was screaming, banging on the wall to get the boys to come help me, you know, But I'm like, oh God, nobody's coming. So I ran past it. I told the boys about it, and they're like, well, we didn't hear you screaming. We heard nothing. And I was in absolutely shocked. And then after that things started to happen. My son, who was autistic. Things were happening good and bad at house. It was like Pandora's box had been open, you know, and we started to have portals open up in the house where there'd be like big flashes light, you

57:50 know, like something was trying to open up in the house. I probably should have wrote everything down, but I saw that you were on so I'm like, dang it, I'm just going to call them. I'm just going to call So I'm not really putting everything has happened to me in order, because I've also had portals open up, try to open up. And I'm a Christian. I believe in God and the White you know, I'm not you know any so I don't, I don't, I don't know. I've had multiple things happen. I don't know if the if the Chief Mountains, or if it's me or what so. But Ronda, so, the area, well, it's not really I don't know how close it is. But what do you know about Moravian Falls. I'm not too far from Moravian Falls.

58:50 I'm about twenty minute, okay, because I don't really know too much of it. Allegedly that area is really well known for portals and just really weird stuff. So I'm not surprised that you're having stuff happen like you have. Oh really, wow. I think I heard you mention it one night on your show. But it's so after I've had that theme with the alien Gray. I know that sounds crazy. I know that sounds nuts, but it happened. You know, it seems like I've been more in tuned with Deans or something's been more in tuned with me. I've even had an owner with the I know this is going to sound crazy with a little person really too in the house across the street, because so we had the alien then happen and then portal open there, and then Deans tried to attack my son, who was autistic, and then we moved, and when we moved, it seemed to follow us. And then then I moved again to this brick house which is right across the street from the brick house now. And then there's that's the bottom of Rendezvous Mountain. So me and the kids cleaned up

1:00:23 that forest back there because there was like, oh, beer cans and stuff like that. So we cleaned up the forest. And I kept having my my basement door. You know, we're out in the middle of nowhere. I'm not really afraid to be breaking in or anything like that. And I have three boys living with me, and we have a you know weapons, you know, it's a shotgun. You know, my basement door kept getting like it wouldn't shut, it became broke, and we never went down in the basement. So I just put a brick up against it and then go up the steps and I just like, you know, locked, put a pad locked on that door. Nobody went there. So then the back door started to where I'm like, what is going on? I'm like, why is my back door broken now? And it won't shut off a way, and so I just slide a break up again. So one night, I'm sleeping in my back bedroom. You know, I'm watching I think I was watching a big food show and it was late at night and I'm you know, I'm looking. I can see my TV, but I can see my doorway too, and this is just what I think. I think they were very happy. We pulled out five bags of trash out of buds and cleaned it up, you know, so it was really quick. It was about two feet tall, dark hair, dark little round eyes. And he looked

1:01:54 around the corner at me and looked back, and I'm like, okay, just you know, one more weird thing to go with everything else. I don't tell people about that, you know too much. But oh that's another thing. So I worked at the little grocery store up here, so I talked to everybody. Everybody knows me. I fut lady, I got bigfoot all over the back of my car. I talked to everybody. So the park ranger that works up at Rendezvous Mountain, he's been up there twenty years now. They did the March twenty twenty two when I had my bigfoot sighting.

1:02:37 That week was their last week up there. The state took it over and they took out a lot of the trees up there where I see my bigfoot sighting. So he comes through my lane all the time and I'm like, okay, so we get to talking. He's like, yes, damitted to me. That crew is up there, and there's multiple other things that happen up there. He was up there like twenty twenty five years and then retired, you know, when the state took it over, which I thought was, you know, just kind of courty and that right where I had my sight in they took out a lot of the trees and everything. But I talked to him all the time, and I've talked to multiple people that live around there that have had bigfoot sight and I'm like an investigator without going deep and Ronda, I love it because you're like you're all about a certain area and you are talking to everyone, like you're getting all the dodge.

1:03:42 It's so good. I used to work at the Olive gard I'm below then efte by the way, I'm blow the epukey and I have a broken scafful but that doesn't stop me. I climb mountains. I'm a tough old bird. Wow. But when, oh God, there was something I was gonna say. I need to really put everything together. But I've been talking. Oh, I was working when I first got here at the Olive Garden. I know you're one legged waitress, right, but it can still get me breadsticks, right, like I just kid, I probably can't, but we could probably get you something at the big line dark all right, all right, Now, I was talking to a girl one night, and I mean, this is like four years and I worked there, work there for two years. And she's like miss Wanda. Now we're talking on the other side of the dam, and that would be to sixty eight and wokeful and she's like, I was going home at eleven o'clock at night. Now, she wouldn't know this, you know, unless you really follow Bigfoot. She's just twenty two years old, just a little country girl. She's like my windows book on my car. They wouldn't roll up. She's like, I was coming home in eleven thirty at night and a white, a white bigfoot was walking through somebody's yard. So up here everything's dark. There's no road light.

1:05:16 If you get got a light in your yard, that's you know, your yard light. So I mean, I've talked to multiple people and I'm supposed to go with this one lady on her property. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing. But she looks down around the mountain too, and her brother was standing on their back porch and she's like, one day he was like, what's that? What's that up there? And she's like, it was about a hand as big as a big black frying band, just whooping. She's like, I don't know what it was doing, but it was just swooping up at the uh trees. So but I had a portal try to open up at the house over there too.

1:06:11 One night, when I woke up in the middle of the night, I'm like, well, I just had a really crazy dream. I'm like, if if there's anything here, give me a sign. And my son come running down the hallway. It was like two thirty in the morning, He's like twenty twenty two then and you heard a big right next to me, Comela. He come running and he's like, what the heck was that? I said, I don't know, but give me my leg, grab all my stuff, and I'm sleeping in the living room tonight. But yeah, I've had multiple I don't know what has happened first. Sometimes stuff, just little stuff happens all the time. But that Moravian Falls. Now that you've told me that I'm off in three days, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a ride out there. Yeah, you should look into it. I've i haven't really looked into it, but I've heard enough that there's some wild stuff that happens there. But you were saying the the park rangers said there's other stuff that happens up on Rendezvous as well. Yeah, he told me he wouldn't exactly tell me because, you know, because I'm waiting on people.

1:07:26 People are coming through my line and people are like behind him, are you are? You are? I'm watching you on TV and talking to you. So gotcha? Okay, And so he just said the veil is very thin up there, dude, Robert, I got it. I gotta talk to you gotta get this guy my info. I got to talk to this guy I know, right, so he comes through my lane all the time, so I just like pack up things. And he invited me to go to this church scene one night. But I'm I'm Christian. I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ. But I believe things are happening a little bit differently than what we think they may be happening, if that makes any sense. And I'm tired tonight. I didn't know I was going to call you, but so you know, I'm just I like to keep all my doors open as far as spirituality and you know, but I will try to I will try, but I don't go back again till wednesday. I took a couple of days off. But yeah, I've been wanting to see But I'm just I know how crazy everything that I have have had happen to me

1:08:56 that I don't do well with. People are like, oh, she's great, or if I read the comments or something, because I know these things are happening to me, you know, absolutely no, it's I think it's awesome. Feel free to pass my info out to any of the people that you're talking to around Rendezvous that are having issues happening. But I have a question for you. Do you have an idea of why all this crazy stuff happens around Rendezvous? Is it maybe a lay line in the area or anything. I was thinking about a lay line, but I don't know how to look up exactly where the lay lines are or I've got little bits of pieces in my brain of little ideas, you know, I don't know how would you look up for the lay liner. So I'm definitely not the expert on this. If anyone in the chat knows if there's an actual map, because I've looked for this and I can't find, like, this is the actual map of lay lines in the US. There seems to be a few different ones and they're all a little different, so you just kind of got to google it, I guess. But I tried looking like you what like, because I'm always okay either when stuff starts happening to your or like when I had the alien encounter, I went into quantum physics and look, I do

1:10:30 basic maths. I'm like, oh my god, I'm giving myself a headache jumping into all this. So I don't know there was a point I was going to make Like I said, I'm tired, but I forgot at anyhow, I just wanted to put it out there. I'm trying to find somebody that would be willing to go with me and do research. I mean, I tell every about it. But then when I'm like, hey, you got to pick up do you want to go at two in the morning, and they're like, uh no, I'm scared. I just want to get out there and find out, you know, what's going on, at least with just my area, because that's what I can do exactly. Hold on, look at a quick, don't don't tell me there's a lay line.

1:11:23 Well that's this is why I need your help, Rhonda. And I'm not making a joke there. Okay, So there's right there's North Carolina right. Uh so I'm guessing it's the red lines. Right. Wait a minute, I can't. I'm looking at your Yeah, where are we at? Okay, I see your hero. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that goes on. I'm right up in the corner right here. That's right where lay line's going across. Do you see that right across? We'll there go crazy Okay, hats off to Razy, who is this, David. Nice work, David for asking that question. So there you go, lay line map, Your lay line goes right over your area. Boom. Well listen, if there's anybody, look, I am harmless. I'm not. I got one leg dang in in a broken back. But no, it's just my staple is broke, can do anything. But if there's anybody in my area curious because I got an old, beat up car right now, I'm driving a I mean, bigfoot could probably eat my car. It's a hont of you know what I mean. That's what I was a break this this creature that I made eye contact with me, it's forehead. I think I wanted

1:12:59 to shock a little bit too, but I would also, I don't know, I would like somebody to put me as far as Oh my god, you're going to think I'm so crazy because along with the alien thing, I've had encounters of being taken aboard oh really, a ship. I know it's crazy, I know it's crazy, but it oh god, this one encounter I woke up on this ship. Ay, it's like I'm in a movie theater. Just listen, don't get me shot. No, it's like a movie theater. Okay, all right, And there's like three hundred and fifty people in this room, and it's it's like looking down like if you were sitting in seats. Everybody's looking straight ahead in a trance, and I'm like, oh my god, where am I at? I look at the guy next to me. Everybody's eyes are open, but they're in a trance.

1:14:01 I'm like, I've got to get out of here. So I move past the people to go up and and get out. I can go either to the left or to the right. It's kind of like organic. It's like really low lighting on the walls or like a light brown. I'm like, so I go to the right, and you know, I don't know what's going on. I don't know if this is really if I'm being taking aboard a ship I could do have something to do with who knows. I don't know. And the classic where you see the white room up top and the light's really bright and you can't see anything, then that's it. That's all I remember. But this is the thing, this is the crazy thing.

1:14:57 So I belonged to the YMCA, and I like to take my grand baby's there and everything. So we're walking up from the why to check out, and this is real. I'm I'm on in my sleep walking and I see a family up front and it's a guy and the wife and two kids. The guy looks at me and we make eye contact as a guy that was sitting next to me on the ship. That's crazy, really, Oh wow, that's crazy? Could could? I mean, there could be multiple things going on. The world is so crazy right now. And I mean they say we're trying to go from the third into the fourth dimension, and that's I don't know. I'm listening to a lot of crazy shows lately just to try to make some sense. I love it. I love it. But that's not the only anger with the alien grave. As far as on a ship, they showed me these I know this is crazy. They showed me like the same thing that your baby is born and is you sack? They showed me these pods. And in these pods there I think they're doing experiments on humanity because there's there's five little beings to a pod and there's beans look

1:16:32 like me, but they're three foot tall, big eyes, classic big black eyes. I'm weird. I can't make I'm like, okay, God, and then where's God fit into everything. You know, where's even God fit into everything? With the cryptids? You know, and don't thank God. I've never seen a dog man and I never worew little people aliens. Bigfoot is enough to hold me over, you know. But I'm serious. I mean, and people are walking around with their rose colored glasses on, you know, yeah, they don't see it. They don't see it. Well, I think something BIG's getting ready to happen, and I think it's gonna happen in the year twenty twenty six. Don't ask me how I know.

1:17:24 I think it's gonna be big, and I think we and it's gonna be god like, and I think we all should be looking to the skies. I don't know if I don't know if it'll even take that long, to be honest, Rohnda, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I've been kind of down today, so I wrote up on I wrote up on Rendezvous Mountain today, which is people don't go up there that much. You know, there's not a lot of people that go up there. I wrote up there. I'm like, okay, give me something, dang it. I mean, you can either go crazy or you can just try to figure things out. Absolutely absolutely, Oh yeah, this has been I mean, listeners need to realize that I've been wanting to talk to Ronda for I would say it probably at least a year. You've been leaving incredible stories. I know, and I felt really bad. I knew it would happen. My two favorite shifts is you uh big with society and of course you know we and Hellbit and Hollered, But you guys are my two faites.

1:18:43 Thank you. That's so nice to be in that company. I could see you really loving hell Ben Holler for sure. I mean, dude, have you told Jesse and Joe about what's happening on Ronde vou Mountain? I try to tell him a little bit, but you know, I'm out of their area, and I know how crazy all this sounds. Do you think that somebody came up to me saying, oh, yeah, I was on a spaceship last night. Yeah it's a little person. I'd be like, Okay, what are you smoking? But you know it's true. All this is happening, and I don't think it's necessarily obtain and maybe some of it could be. I think I think this ain't our first go around. With trying to be humans on this planet. I don't think we're allowed to destroy it. I don't think that's another theme. So after the alien thing and see more stuff like I remember or forget. Like the first month, I could feel vibrations and everything, like I would be like asking my voice, do you feel it? Do you feel the floor vibrating? You feel the counter vibrating? And then it started to rain one day and I'm like, oh my god, I was hyper sensitive. I could hear each being drop hitting the leaves outside and making music. Look, I wasn't on any I

1:20:18 don't drink. I don't I smoked cigarettes and drank coffee. That's about the rain. But that's it, you know, I mean, and then it's just hypersensitivity and to smell. I don't know. But now that I'm in touch with you, I talked to right before God bless his heart. I belonged to him for a long time before he passed away. I talked to Daniella on Bigfoot Odyssey, and then a week later he passed you know, yeah, and then you know, everybody goes into their own grief and everything.

1:21:03 So yeah, but I talked to her for about two hours daytime. She's like, is that it is that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, that's it. But he's in touch with me. And like I said, it's cold and windy upp here tonight. Uh, I'm just gonna keep this little area and maybe I'll be able to find somebody to go out with me now. But it's getting a little warmer. If not, then I'm gonna grab the Chihuahua and the bit boom. We're going big. But it's like wild Blackburn says, become the expert of the weird thing in your area.

1:21:46 You know. Yeah, that's what's near. Be the expert of it. So I think he's he's on the track for sure. But Ronda, it has been such a pleasure chatting with you. Finally, definitely keep in touch. Let me know of any new bigfoot things that happen with Rendezvous Mountain in North Carolina. And yeah, thank you so much for Cheban Falls. Yeah, and I'll let you know and just keep in touch with you, jere Matt. I do love you and I love your show. Thank you so much. Thank you for calling in all right, sweet you have a good night, you too, Randa Holy mackerel. Yeah, it's it's the craziest night ever, so we got all we gotta get to bed. Good times all good night. We'll see you later guys, and have a good one.

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1:26:31 Her and I can get out of here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you, you know, shame on you.