March 9, 2025

They Crossed The Line | Texas

In this episode, we have the privilege of talking with Anna about her spine-chilling encounters in Van Zandt County, Texas during the 1960s. Anna recounts a series of mysterious and terrifying events, starting from eerie silence in the woods to the...

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Season 1

In this episode, we have the privilege of talking with Anna about her spine-chilling encounters in Van Zandt County, Texas during the 1960s. Anna recounts a series of mysterious and terrifying events, starting from eerie silence in the woods to the disappearance of cattle, and ultimately, her close encounters with what she calls the 'Monkey Man.' Join us as Anna meticulously walks us through her terrifying yet enthralling journey of encountering Bigfoot and the lingering emotions tied to those memories.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've got

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the privilege of talking to Anna today. Anna as an

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individual who's a listener of the show, and she reached

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out to me through email about some very interesting experiences

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from back in the I believe nineteen seventies in Van

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Zandt County, Texas. So welcome to the show today, Anna,

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how's it going.

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Well, first, I'm gonna correct you it was the nineteen sixties.

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Yes, ma'am, thank you. How are things down where you're

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at today.

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Pleasant, I'm actually about ninety minutes from where this took place,

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and I tell you, civilization has taken over.

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We were talking before the interview, and it sounds like

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it's a whole different world down there where we'll be

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talking about today. But you know, Anna, I'm going to

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go ahead and pass things right over to you. Feel

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free to take us back to the sixties to when

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this all started to happen for you, and we'll be listening.

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Okay, Well, I will tell your viewers or excuse me,

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listeners and viewers that I had to keep myself notes,

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or I will tell you what took place in August

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before June. This has to keep me in chronological order,

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so you'll probably hear paper wrestling from time to time.

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This took place began taking place in June nineteen sixty six,

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when I was twelve years old. Back then, every second

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Sunday of the month for several years, my family visited

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some of my dad's relatives and what was back then

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the deep woods of Van Zink County, Texas. My dad

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had grown up just a short walk from their house,

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so they were very close e mostly this including my

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uncle Jess, his wife, aunt Johnny, their adult's son Lewis,

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whose wife was Lenny, and the four children that ranged

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in ages from three to twelve. Back then, like it

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was common in that part of Texas, three generations lived

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in the same house. They didn't have indoor plumbing, but

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they did have electric and they were absolutely the first

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people in the community to have electricity. That's how rural

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it was. Great Uncle had to pay to have these

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huge structures brought into through the county so that he

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could have electricity in his house and ended up providing

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electricity for his neighbors as well. In June, we made

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an exception to our regular businesys schedule. Instead of going

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on a Sunday, we went on the second Saturday and

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do what our parents called trading kids. I would stay

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with the family while Lewis's eldest son, Pete went to

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visit with my brothers for a week. Lewis eldest daughter, Judy,

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was a year younger than me, and we were both

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two great nature lovers, which is why we loved to

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explore the woods together. Lewis had another daughter, she preferred

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to do things alone since she was an introvert, and

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their youngest son, well he was only three, so he

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was always with his mama. Shortly after we arrived, Judy

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exiledly rushed up to me. I've got a surprise for you,

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she exclaimed, as she led me into the woods. After

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about a thirty minute walk, we came upon a large

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meadow in the middle of the woods. It was ten

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acres large, and that late spring day, it was covered

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with beautiful flowers. We sat down on a fallen tree

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to take in its beauty. Insects were buzzing around and

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birds were happily singing. I don't know how long we

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sat there, mesmerized by its beauty, when suddenly it got quiet,

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spooky quiet. Judy and I knew it couldn't mean that

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there was a preasure nearby, so we sat there, visually

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skinning the area. Suddenly the silence was broken by grunting.

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At first I thought it was pigs, but it didn't

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quite sound like pigs. Besides, it wasn't near the ground

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like pigs. It was up in the trees. Amazed, I

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asked Judy, what is that, missus dismissed at least, she

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answered pigs. I corrected her, No, listen, it's not pigs.

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It's up in the trees, and you know pigs can't climb,

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and there's no such thing as flying pigs. Judy paused

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and listened, with a puzzle look on her face. I

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asked her how high up in the trees was the grunting.

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She gets twenty feet high. I told her that my

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guess was two twenty foot high. Then I asked her

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it doesn't quite sound like pigs either. She agreed. Then

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there was this strange vocalization. It began with a high

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aid and went down the musical scale to a note

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so deep no human could ever duplicate it. What was that?

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I asked Judy to miss it dismissed iff lace, She answered,

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some bird, I astonished, our rebuker, Judy, you know that

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I play the piano, so I know some things about music.

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She nodded. If that is a bird, it's bigger than

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your dad. Then we both felt like something was watching us,

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not in a threatening light, even so, it gave us

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the creeps, and somehow it made us feel chilly, so

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we rubbed our arms to warm ourselves. Judy the word,

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I think we need to go home, I agreed. Uncle Jess,

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who was his grandfather, kept us lives stop in three

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different pastures according to their time. On the east side

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of their backyard was a goat pasture. It was separated

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on their backyard by a barbed wire fence. These was

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the goat's only fence, since my uncle wanted them free

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to search the woods for tender plants to eat. This

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gave the woods on his land a more manicured look

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while feeding his goats, and he didn't have to worry

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about their safety because they just naturally came back to

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the pastor when the sun started setting because they had

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to spend the evenings sleeping close together as the sun was,

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so he never had to worry about losing any of

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his goats. On the other hand, he couldn't trust his

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cattle and horses to do that. The cattle pasture was

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along the south side of their yard and surrounded by

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wood planks on all four sides. The horse pastor faced

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the front yard, but it was about five hundred feet away.

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Still feeling unnerved by what had happened by the meadow,

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we needed some comic relief, so we sat on a

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fallen tree in a goat pasture. Soon we were laughing

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out loud as we watched her kids play. At noon,

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Judy's mom, Lenny, opened the back door of the house

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and announced dinner was ready, and that part of Texas

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called their noontime meal dinner, and at the kitchen at

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every meal, the table was covered with large bowls and

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serving platters full of delicious food. It always felt like

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a feast. After dinner, I could tell by the look

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in Judy's eyes that she still felt uncomfortable about what

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happened by the meadow, So when she suggested that we

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stay inside for the rest of the day, I agreed.

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That evening of her supper, my parents, my two brothers,

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and Judy's brother Pete left for our home in Dallas

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suburb for a week long visit. During the same week

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I would be at the door. Had a one bedroom

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home that sat on four foot high tall stills because

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the sad Being River was nearby and they wanted to

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be prepared in cases they were flooded. Where did all

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those people sleep? Along the south side of the house

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was what they called a porch that was the entire

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length of the house. From four feet downward. The walls

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were covered with ship lamp the next three feet upward

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metal windows screening span three sides of the porch except

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for the door. Above the screening was another foot that

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was also covered with shiplaps. On the outside of the

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porch was awning that Judy's mother and grandmother had made

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of heavy cotton canvas. They ow both sides of the

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canvas to both waterproof that and to prevent mildew. They

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also sold canvas straps. On the awning and the warm

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and hot months, the cavas was rolled up and the

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straps were tied to screw eyes above the screening, and

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the cool and cold months, the canvas was unrolled so

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that it covered the screening and tied to the straps

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were tied to the screw eyes below the screening. Then

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a wood burning stove would be brought into the porch.

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Just made the porch cozy even in the dead of winter.

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Three full sized beds, sitting about four feet apart, were

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on the porch. This is where Judy's grandparents, her siblings,

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and herself slept, and her parents slept in the one bedroom.

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Since her dad, Lewis, got up at four am to

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go to his job in Dallas. As soon as it

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got dark outside, Judas suggested that we get on her

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bed with the lights off and watch for small animals

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that would come under the fence. Oh, what a wonderful

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deep There was a roll of mature oak trees that

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grew just a few feet from the fence and the

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cattle pasture. A family of rabbits lived in the borough

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under one of the trees. We watched them up under

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the fence to graze on the short grass of the

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yarn as we talked softly. Since there was a full

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moon that night, it was easy to see them. At

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nine o'clock, all the lights were turned off and everyone

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went to bed. It was easy to fall asleep with

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all the fresh air flowing through the screen. I slept

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in the middle of bed with Judy Uncle Jess, and

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then Johnny slept in the bed to her left. As

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it turned out, Uncle Jess just four feet from me,

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very protectively, nothing ever happened. He loved his tot be

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there to protect his grandkids. Something woke me up. It

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was in the middle of the night and everyone was

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asleep there I heard it again. Uncle Jess's two colliagues

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were under the house, directly under our bed, and they

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were making that sound dogs make when they are afraid

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of a larger animal. It's like they're too afraid to

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growl light, but they have to make some kind of sound,

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so a low, mumbled growl comes out. I worried that

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some predator was in the cattle pasture and wondered if

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I should break up Uncle Jest or not. Suddenly a

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man jumped up in a break between the trees. The

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full moon was behind him, so all I could see

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was a black silhouette of him. I could see him

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from shoulders upwards. He looked straight up, then turned his

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head to the right and to the left. Once again,

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he turned his head to the right and to his left,

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then dropped outside. At the same time, the two colleagues

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rushed out from under the house, and they were wiggling sideways,

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like dogs do when they are happy to see someone

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do very fond of I guess I must have gasped,

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because I heard Uncle Jesson say in a loud whisper,

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what are you looking at? So I told him what

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I just share with you, squatters hee, he whispered in disgust.

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I'm always having trouble with him trying to take my

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land without paying for it. I'll take care of them

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in the morning. Then he explained, and I'll interrupt my story,

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but to explain this, we do not have leopards in Texas.

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We have jaguars. But my family didn't know that. They

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called the jaguar leopard, so I'll probably be calling it

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a leopard as well. And my uncle went on to say,

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when I see the leopard in the during the day,

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it doesn't mess with me. So I don't mess with him.

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But if I surprised him in the dark, I would

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beat his next meal. That's why I don't go in

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the cattle pasture at night. Go back to sleep. That

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was easy. The next morning, Judy and I woke to

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the smell of biscuits in the oven. We quickly got

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dressed and rushed to the kitchen table. Soon the rest

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of the family was sitting around the table, asking why

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Uncle Jess was missing. Aunt Johnny explained that he was

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looking for squatters. After we finished eating, Aunt Johnny ordered

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Judy and made the sit so we could see through

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a certain window. Then, pointing to the fence post, she said, Jess,

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we'll hitch his horse to that fence post when he

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comes back. As soon as you see him, tell me.

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So I can start his breakfast. While Judy's mother, Linny

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was washing dishes. Aunt Johnny prepared more biscuit dough. She

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cut in the rounds and placed them on a pan.

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After that, she got everything else ready, so she be

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cooking breakfast for Uncle Jess as soon as we saw him.

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And sure enough, as soon as Judy and I announced

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that Uncle Jess was back, Aunt Johnny went to work

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cooking his breakfast, and all the rest of the family

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gathered around the table to hear his report.

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Big for Society will be right back. After these messages,

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we weren't prepared for what we saw.

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When Uncle Jess opened the door, he looked pale and spooped.

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We walked to the table. He walked to the table

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and sit down, still looking spooped. He answered that one

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of his best breathing cows was missing and he could

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not figure out how they took it out of the

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astor without waking up Uncle Chalk, I forgot to explain

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that his brother, Charles, whom we all called Chalk, lived

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in a tent that he set up right by the

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cattle gate. The cattle gate made a loud creeeking sound

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anytime you opened it, and the chain they used to

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chain to hold and attach it to a fence post.

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It was a heavy chain. You could not remove that

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chain quietly, so how could anyone open that gate without

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waking up? Uncle Chalk, who was just in a cameas tent.

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Aunt Johnny said his breakfast down on the table in

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front of him before he start. Before he started eating,

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he told me to tell them what I seen that night. Louis,

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who had a job Monday through Friday, was off because

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that was Sunday morning. Yes, just dad, if he was

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going back out to search again. Uncle just said yes.

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Then Lewis told him he wanted to join him. Aunt Johnny, pata,

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be sure to take your long guns and plenty of bullets.

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She then filled two canteens with water and filled two

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lunch sacks with biscuits. When they returned for dinner, they

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both looked smoot as they reported that they could not

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find either a trace of the cow or squatters. Uncle

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Chalk soon joined us for dinner. Then he joined Uncle

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Jess and Lewis on horseback as they searched for that

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missing cow and signs of squatters. But when they returned

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for supper, they had not found any they were totally mystified, totally.

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This just did not make sense. They searched. After they

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searched around the fence, they searched the path from the

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gate to the road that led to their house for

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try for any sign that someone had come there. They

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couldn't find any human footprints. They couldn't see the cow footprints,

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and the land was covered with sand. According to where

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you dug, it was either two to three inches deep.

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So if a cow had walked across that sandy land,

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it were left prince and without. No man could pick

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up a five on a pound cow and carry it off.

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This just didn't make sense. Why was it missing? Oh? Well,

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that evening we went to bed at nine o'clock as usual,

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and something else woke me up. It wasn't for dogs

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this time. It was wood would someone was hitting two

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pieces of wood together, and someone else was hitting two

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pieces of wood together. I turned my head and saw

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that Uncle Jess also heard. He was sitting on the

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edge of his bed listening. He pointed, said, one's in

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the cattle pastor and one's in the goat pastor. This

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is how they're communicating. It's probably morse code. I took

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morse code when I was in the army, but I

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was never good at and I forgot everything I knew

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when I got out. So now we know there's at

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least two of them. But how did they remove the

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cow from the pastor anyway? We listened for a while

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and I finally fell back to sleep listening to the

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wooden knocking. The next day, Uncle Jess goes back out

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again and another cow's missing, and this was just as mysterious,

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no sign of preditors, just like it was before. If

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it was a county, a wolf or the jaguar which

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we called leopard, it would have left blood and pieces

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of the animal left behind. All three animals have that

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in common. But there wasn't any. It was just like

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that cow disappeared, and once again there wasn't any human tracks.

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Uh Lewis had to it was already at work. But

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Uncle Chaluk joined up Uncle Jess as they searched the

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land for any any sign. Does a human being have

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been near that that calcropastor? It just did not make sense.

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How could they how could they just disappear? It just

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did not make sense. And then they got on horseback

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and searched the woods for anything anything that could answer

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their question. And so when they came in for lunch,

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they were just as mystified, if not more so. This

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not makes sense. They warned us they were keeping all

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of us children inside the house. Well they because I

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didn't know what they were dealing with. So Judy and

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I had just found things to entertain ourselves with. Fortunately

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for Judy and me, we could always find something to

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talk about always, and again that night I was awakened

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by the sound of wood knocking, and that would be

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the case every single night that I was there. Sometimes

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Uncle Jeff would be awakened by it, sometimes he wasn't,

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And like, who were these people? How could they do that?

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How could they be so close and leave no sign

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that they'd been there. Well, my parents came on Sunday

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and after supper. Oh, by the way, they brought Peepe

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back home too, and they after supper, we all got

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in our cars and went back to Dallas County where

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we lived, just all talking about this mysterious cattle disappearance.

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Just didn't make sense. Oh that was June. Come July,

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we go on the second Sunday as usual, and Judy

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rushes up to me, it's just got something else special

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to share with me. Because the land was on sand.

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Whenever there was an area where there the grass was thin,

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a plant life was thin and the hard ring fell.

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It would carve another path in the gland. But the

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animals that lived near where that new path was didn't

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expect to see any humans coming down the path, and

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we could get closer to them. You see bobcats, foxes

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and other animals that lived along that new trail. Oh,

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it was a trill. And then we uh smell started

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smelling root beer. But that makes sense root beer in

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the middle of the woods. And Judy correct me said,

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well that's cessafras roots. For those who don't know when

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the root beer was first made, it was made from

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the roots of the Sassafi crass trees. And Judy explained

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the Sassafras frash trees do not have that aroma, just

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the rootster. So we knew that someone had unearthed some

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Sessafras trees. We just followed the scent out of curiosity.

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And there was another mystery. It was a pit, a

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square pit. Who digs a square pit? Someone did? Wi

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sid had to be a squatter. I mean that the

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corners were right angled square. I mean, it was a

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square pit. And when they did it, they laid bare

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some of the sands fransh roots to the trees, and

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that's why it's noll so wonderful. The dirt clay, there

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was clay under the sand, and the clay was filled

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with that aroma. Whoever had dug the pit had also

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formed a ramp from ground level to the floor of

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the pit and carve out two chairs out of the clay.

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What a wonderful place this was, What a wonderful place.

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Judy and I searched the area for any sign of

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burnt wood or land where someone had been cooking meals,

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and we both agreed that whatever squatter it was that

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had dug this pit must have had one of those

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camping stoves that my parents had that was fueled by

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but tane. And so anyway, we went down the pit

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and set down on the chairs and enjoyed a long visit.

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Before we had left, her grandmother had given us sandwiches.

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She made certainly we had pockets, because we weren't allowed

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to throw your dresh down in her woods. No, no, no,

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you had to put the trash in your pockets. And

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we weren't allowed to take anything to drink. She just

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told us drink. If you eat slow enough, you won't

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need to bring can things. And so we sat there

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and ate our lunch and joined it wonderful Aroma, and

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we bos said this was the perfect place for us

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to be. There were shrubs all on all four sides,

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so we could be close to the ground and look

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under the shrubs and watch for more animals. This wonderful.

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This was a wonderful place. And speaking of animals, I

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realized where I was sitting that there was a bombcat's kittens.

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I knew that mother would be eager to move her

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kittens away from these humans, So I went to where

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Judy was and I told her about it. We agreed.

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We just turned their bags and lade her take her

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kittens away from that area. Then, after we were sure

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if she was finished, we sat back in those clays

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and yzits some more. I honestly don't know how much

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time we were there. We had. We couldn't see the

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sky to tell the how I'm by the sun because

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there the trees were so thick. Then I heard footsteps,

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heavy footsteps. I looked under the shrub and I, no,

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it can't be there's no such thing as monsters. Everyone

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knows that there's no such thing as monsters. But there

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was a monster coming. It could be really, it couldn't

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be real, but it was. It was huge, huge. It

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looked like a giant ape walking towards us. I knew

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we had to have been near one of its food sources,

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and it had a furious look on his face. I

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had no idea what it would do to Judy and

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me when it saw us rut there bites food. I

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just started praying softly, and the first word out of

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my mouth was the name of the god. I prayed

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to Jesus. As soon as I said Jesus, he froze

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in place. I saw him lift up two giant hands

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and feel of what was some kind of invisible barrier.

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And this was just as amazing ass seeing the monster

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and that Almost immediately a small group of half grown

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coyotes came out of the pasture and they were scuffling

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around and playing together, totally unaware of the monster. But

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the monster could see them, and he started chasing after them,

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and they ran, and he chased them out of the area.

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I'm sure after his next men. Well, now I had

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to put Judy out there, but how I started running.

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I ran up the ramp and I said, come on, you,

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we gotta go. I'll explain to you. We get to

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the goat faster, well, you can go home if you

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want to. I want to stay. This place is too wonderful.

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So I tried another tactic. I go over to the

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exposed sassafras roots and I pointed out that some of

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them were up to four inches in diameter, that none

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of them had been cut. They'd all been twisted until they.

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Broke big for society will be right back.

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After these messages, Judy looked at them with new eyes,

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and she said, you're scaring me. I told her, I

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think we need to be scared, and we need to

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leave right away. Because she agreed, and we left. When

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we got to the safety of the goat pasture, I

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told her about that monster I had seen out in

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the woods. She's sitting just a few feet from me

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and looking into my eyes and she knows I'm telling

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her the truth. And I told her, I've got to

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tell you your grandpa and your dad about this. That

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that monster must be what's taking the cattle. It's so

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tall it can just step over their fences, and that's

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why they're not finding footsteps. I think it's probably strong

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enough that they could just pick it one of the

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cows and carry it away. She nodded. So we go

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inside and no one's in the kitchen. We find our

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mother's on the porch, sitting on bedsisting. So we asked

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them where the men were. They didn't know. Meanwhile, I

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heard Judy's grandmother, Aunt Johnny, come into the kitchen, so

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we go in there and ask her where the men were.

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She didn't know. Then Judy said, tell Aunt Johnny about

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the animal you saw in the kitchen in the woods,

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and Aunt Johnny gets this haunted look like she already

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knows what I'm going to say. Even so I told

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her about the pit we have found in that monstrous

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sized ape that had been walking towards us. She said,

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there's no such thing. But her eyes says she knew

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there was such a thing. And I challenged her. I said,

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I can see it in your eyes. I can see

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you know what that animal is. What is it called?

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And she said, there's no such thing. There's no such thing.

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They do not exist. They don't exist, And I want

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you to I must not to tell anybody about it.

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I said, I'm not going to promise it, as the

452
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.240
men of the family need to know about it. That

453
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.559
that monster must be the one that's taking your husband's cattle.

454
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.839
And you know, you know, uncle just needs those canabis

455
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:18.000
how he makes us livelihood. That's the only way he

456
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:25.480
pays the electric bill. And she kept arguing with me

457
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.440
while I left in defiance. I was going to find

458
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.880
those men. I started going through the windows, and looking back,

459
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.000
I wish I had just stepped out of the house

460
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.400
and started searching. But while I was looking through the

461
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.240
windows trying to spot them in aunt Johnny was talking

462
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:49.079
to Judy, and Judy Grandma comes rushing up to my arm, crying,

463
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:55.119
crying and shaping. You've got to go back to the

464
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.079
kitchen and promise Grandma that you're not going to tell

465
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.880
anyone about that monster, or she's going to punish me

466
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.759
worse than she's ever punished me before. And I told her,

467
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.960
I said, your grandpa and your dad needs to know

468
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.480
about that monster. What if it comes into the yard.

469
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.319
She they need to be prepared for it. She said,

470
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:24.599
please please come into the kitchen, and that's when Judy's

471
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.799
grandmother told me how she was going to punish Judy

472
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:33.920
if I told anyone anytime we would come, she would

473
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:38.160
have to go into the outhouse and wait there throughout

474
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.400
our visit, and I would not be allowed to visit

475
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.319
with her. I wouldn't get to stay another week like

476
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.680
we were used to, and she would try to convince

477
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.519
my parents not to bring me along for their visits.

478
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.319
That was how she was going to punish Judy and

479
00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:01.279
me if I told anyone. And I continue to try

480
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.400
the reason with that, Johnny, what if it comes into

481
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.679
the yard, your family needs to be prepared for it.

482
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.440
They need to be ready, knowing what I mean, you

483
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.880
don't know what you can do. You don't know what

484
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.280
it might do. You need to keep your grandkids from

485
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.360
going out, and what you need to act like it's

486
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.719
I can tell you know what's real. I can tell you, dude.

487
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:34.400
She would not relent. Meanwhile, Judy was just looking sick.

488
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:40.440
She was crying so much. And I finally gave him

489
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:45.519
sick at heart and I made that promise. But I

490
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.079
kept trying the reason without Johnny kept trying to tell her,

491
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:54.239
what if, what if it comes? What if it's in

492
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.079
your home? When you come home. You've got to act

493
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.199
like that monster was real. She would she would not, reason,

494
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.480
she would not. Then she grabs a knife, Alvador, and

495
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.880
she said, this is my bone cutting nut knife. There

496
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:13.960
has been a bone that I haven't been able to cut.

497
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.079
Even the thickest calibone I can cut with this knife.

498
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.519
It all to be good for cutting tree roots. And

499
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.679
I told her, you're not going to that pit, are you?

500
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.519
She said, I sure am. You told me that there

501
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:32.000
are exposed sassafras roots. My family habits to love to

502
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.800
drink sassafras fashtreate tea. Excuse me, I'm stuttering. I tried

503
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.639
the reason with it could not change her mind, and

504
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.480
she marched out and ordered us to stay in the kitchen,

505
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.519
that we'd better be in those same chairs when she

506
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:51.039
came back with some sassafrax roots. I don't know how

507
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.599
long we waited. Judy and I scooted our chairs close

508
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.360
to each other and put her arms around each other

509
00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:02.599
to comfort each other as we both cried situations. And

510
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.320
Johnny did come back with a bucket full of sassafras roots,

511
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.480
and she said there was no monster out there. I said,

512
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.840
but you know, only a monster could twist those sassafrass roots.

513
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.440
And every single one of those sassafrass fast roots has

514
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:28.280
been twisted. She grabbed each individual and chopped off the

515
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.159
twisted area and cut into small pieces. First through it

516
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.880
into a large bowl full of water, before she chopped

517
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:43.239
up the wrist of the sassafras roots. After she watched

518
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:48.199
them all, she made a large part of sassafras tea.

519
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.800
And normally I would enjoy it, but I couldn't that day.

520
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.400
It's just I was so worried for my family and

521
00:36:54.480 --> 00:37:00.760
I couldn't warn them. I could not warn them. Well,

522
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:10.760
that was July, a month past. It's August, and even

523
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.559
though it's a hot summer day, I knew it would

524
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.039
be cool under the trees. Judy comes rushing up to

525
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.880
me with another surprise, another hard ring to come, and

526
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.760
they had carved out another new path which she had

527
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.519
not gone down yet. She was saving that first experience

528
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.039
for sharing it with me. So off we go down

529
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:44.840
a new trail. This time would come to another mystery.

530
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:51.000
There's a cabin at the bottom of a gully. What

531
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.760
a weird place to put a cabin. This did not

532
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.360
make sense. The only thing that Judy and I could think.

533
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.599
I was that a squatter had built that cabin and

534
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.079
down in the gully so it wouldn't be seen. But

535
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.559
we both agreed that all the water would flow down

536
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.199
into that cabin anytime it rained. It would be nothing

537
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.679
to stop it, especially since it was sand. I mean,

538
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:21.920
it just would just wash right off into that in

539
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:26.320
that gully. And just said, what, they don't really have

540
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:27.719
a door, and I said, well, maybe they're not through

541
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.599
building it. There was something else, something else about that

542
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:40.280
cabin pottered me. Then it dawned on me none of

543
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.800
the logs had been cut. They were up to six

544
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.880
inches in diameter, and none of them had been cut.

545
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.920
I was about to turn to Judy and tell her

546
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.639
we've got to leave, and oh, no, it's that monster.

547
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:03.800
That monster must have built this log cab. And then

548
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:09.280
before I turned to see Judy, I see this small

549
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.719
grove of trees that have been woven together, even though

550
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.760
they were still alive. I didn't want to know the

551
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.679
explanation for that one. I knew no human could do that.

552
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.000
It had to be something the monster built. I looked

553
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.280
at Judy, and before I could say anything, her face

554
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:38.119
grew pale with terror. And there was a smell. There

555
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.280
was this mound of dirt, right tall mound of dirt

556
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:48.599
right side the gully, and that smell was coming from

557
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:56.960
behind it like some combination of skunk and went dog.

558
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.239
And oh, it was so strong. Made my head hurts

559
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:07.559
and upset my stomach. And then Judy, did there come, well,

560
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:11.199
last thing you do in the woods? She turned around

561
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:12.039
and squeamed.

562
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:13.559
It's the monkey man.

563
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:18.000
It's a monkey man, the monkey man. What in the

564
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.920
world is a monkey man? I thought, And she's still squealing.

565
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:22.840
It's a monkey man.

566
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:27.440
It's a monkey man. And she's running, running wildly, waving

567
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.280
both arms. And I expected that monster to dash out

568
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:37.800
from behind the dirt and grab her. But it didn't.

569
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:49.679
Why didn't it isn't that what monsters did? But it did.

570
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:56.239
It did not run after her. She kept running wildly, screaming,

571
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:01.639
and I was I was in shop myself. My legs

572
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:07.360
felt like leand I just I could not run, and strangely,

573
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.960
I felt I didn't feel afraid of that monster. For

574
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:18.079
some reason, it just didn't feel scary where I was.

575
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.800
I was walking down the path that Judy was running down,

576
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.480
and then I saw these two tender eyes looking down

577
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:27.760
at me.

578
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.960
I looked up at them. They were looking at me

579
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:38.360
with that same protective look that I seen grown women

580
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.639
look at me when I was a little girl. They

581
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.159
wanted to take care of me. Then she stepped out

582
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.400
of hiding and she was beautiful, much taller than my

583
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:59.239
dad and wire covered with chocolate brown hair. The hide

584
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:03.599
on hers in her hands were chocolate brown too, Like

585
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.719
I said, her eyes were chocolate brown. Her lips were

586
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:11.360
chocolate brown except for a beige outline that went around

587
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:15.440
her lips. They were eight like lots, not even like lips.

588
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.880
She had two triangular breasts that were nearly flat. That's

589
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.119
why I knew it was a female. I'm assuming that

590
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.679
she hasn't nursed a child yet if she had young

591
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.119
and surely did be nears. So you know, that's where

592
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:34.840
my thoughts were. I'm having a wonderful time analyzing her,

593
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.360
and I could tell she's analyzing me, and that she's

594
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.519
still looking at me with a tender looking like she

595
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.960
knew I was a harmless child. Then she lifts her arm,

596
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.840
not like we humans would lift to point at something,

597
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.519
but just lifted her arm in a loose way and

598
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.719
kind of some casually pointed towards Judy, like she wanted

599
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:03.400
me to help Judy in some way. I nodded my

600
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:08.519
head and my legs. I realized I had energy in them. Again.

601
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.519
I didn't want to startle U, so I didn't start

602
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.559
running immediately. I started off slow and just got a

603
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.599
little faster, a little faster. By that time, Judy was

604
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.840
at least five hundred feet ahead of me. I could

605
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.800
not catch her, but I could call to her and

606
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.480
try to get her to calm down. So that's what

607
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.039
I was doing. There were prematures, and that was woods.

608
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:38.519
They had to hurt her, and we just didn't know. Normally,

609
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:42.920
a coldy wouldn't bother us or any of them there

610
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.280
wool was a leopard, wouldn't bother any of us. But

611
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.320
she sounded like a wooden animal, and that would kind

612
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:55.760
would probably stimulate their hunger. But as we were running along,

613
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:01.559
I kept smelling whists of her, just a little whiss,

614
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.599
not strong enough to give me a headachere, ups at

615
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.960
my stomach, just enough, like she was letting us know

616
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:11.800
she was there. And I'm completely convinced it was her

617
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:16.079
way to let predators know she was also there to

618
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:20.920
protect us. I have no doubt that if one had

619
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.159
come rushing up there, that she was snatched it up

620
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:31.239
and stopped it because she cared about her safety. There

621
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.440
was no doubt about it. I don't know how many

622
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:40.000
times I smelled that, oh that I'll call it aroma,

623
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.159
that's his stink, but it said that she was protecting us.

624
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:48.440
Judy didn't think that way. Every time she smelled that,

625
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:50.800
she went into more of a pandit it's getting closed,

626
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:55.280
it's getting closed. She'd squeal out. But I knew she

627
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.039
was protecting us. That's why no preastors came after.

628
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.639
Judy, for the society will be right back. After these messages.

629
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.719
We finally made it to the goat pastor and Judy

630
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.719
could barely lift her legs. She tried to say something

631
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:28.880
to me and just a hiss came out of her throat.

632
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:34.199
I knew she didn't have enough energy to walk through

633
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.320
climb to the barbar fence, and that was their rule.

634
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:40.559
Someone in the past had opened the gate and left

635
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.280
it open and let out all their lives. Stock and

636
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.239
Uncle Jess and his family tried to get them back,

637
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.719
but they couldn't. They could. Most of them were lost

638
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.679
in the woods. Never to come back, and he had

639
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.760
to get a job so he could start up his

640
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.639
heart all over again. So they had that strong rule.

641
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:04.920
It did not open that gate, but I left the gate,

642
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.400
and when I did, the chain made a noise and

643
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.000
sold the hinges of the gate, and Aunt Johnny came

644
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:16.039
rushing out the rebukelus, but she saw Judy and I.

645
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.480
As soon as Judy got through, I closed the gate

646
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.079
and I was about to go to the fence. When

647
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.840
she ordered me to go to the fence. When it

648
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.760
was obvious I was about to do it anyway, I

649
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:30.639
forgave her. I knew Judy needed her help. She had

650
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.159
her arm around Judy and she walked her to the house.

651
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:35.559
As soon as I was through with the fence, I

652
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.519
ran up to the house. When I walked into the

653
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.719
living room, all the adults were there, both my parents,

654
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.639
both of Judy's parents, both of her grandparents, and Uncle

655
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.559
Chalk were all there, and they were all staring at me,

656
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.559
and someone asked what happened to Judy? So I told

657
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:04.880
her about what had happened in the woods. Then Uncle

658
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:10.639
Jess asked me, have you seen, oh, all of them,

659
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.119
all of them like an echo, said, it's the monkey Man.

660
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.000
The monkey Man is back, they were saying, back, I

661
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:24.880
had been there before. It's the monkey man. The monkey

662
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.920
Man is back. Then Uncle Jess asked me, have you

663
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:35.760
seen one before. That's when I realized that Aunt Johnny

664
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:40.400
was crying and shaking. I asked her if I could

665
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.119
break my promise to her, and she nodded her head.

666
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.039
Then I told her about told him about the pit

667
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.039
and the male monkey man I'd seen before. Then I

668
00:47:53.119 --> 00:48:01.519
started shaking and Uncle Jess said why And I said,

669
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.679
Uncle Jess, it's so big. If you shoot at one time,

670
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.199
it won't kill it. And that Johnny nodded her head.

671
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.079
I said, he'll keep coming. They'll either hurt your real

672
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.480
bad it mighty can kill you. I don't want that

673
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:24.800
to happen to my family. He said, don't worry. He said,

674
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.960
we'll get our neighbors. You'll see them. They'll all be

675
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.960
lined up in our backyard come sunset, and we'll have

676
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.559
a big hunting party that will go after those monsters.

677
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:44.239
And he looked Johnny in both eyes as he touched

678
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.559
both her knees and said, I promise we won't do

679
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:53.880
it alone. Then Lewis asked my dad to stand up

680
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.519
and asked me how tall was that mail monkey man

681
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.920
compared to my dad. I said taller, and so he

682
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:04.440
started raising his hand in increments until I said that's it,

683
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.719
and they all agreed that was seven foot tall. Then

684
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.639
Lewis asked me how tall the monkey man was compared

685
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:16.000
to my dad, and I said, well, I was taller

686
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.119
than my dad. So he stood next to my dad

687
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.920
and we started using hand increments to decide how white

688
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.880
he was, and we all agreed four foot wide. And

689
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:28.679
we did the same thing for the female, and we

690
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.840
agreed that she was seven foot tall by three foot wide.

691
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.000
And then Uncle just asked me a question I did

692
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:41.159
not want to answer. Could have been one of the

693
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:45.000
monkey men that you saw that knight in the cattle pasture.

694
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.000
I hated to say it. I hated to say it.

695
00:49:51.840 --> 00:50:00.880
She had protected us. I said it was the female,

696
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:05.559
and Uncle Jess said, I know she protected you. I

697
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:11.239
know she did. I want to remind you that sometimes

698
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:16.000
wild animals do that, but the same wild animal that

699
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.760
protects you one time can turn against you another time.

700
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:26.920
And that wild animal is taking my cattle. That's my livelihood.

701
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.280
And I said, I know, Uncle Jess, I know you

702
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.440
have to kill her. I just I just have to

703
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:44.320
be sad about it. Then Uncle Jess came up with

704
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:48.760
a plan. The men of his family would start at

705
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:53.280
one particular landmark, and Uncle Jess would go in one direction,

706
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.480
and Uncle John would go in another, and Lose would

707
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.239
go in another, and they would go tell their neighbors

708
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:06.119
a short story. And he told all the men, both

709
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.199
men to take their guns and extra bullets with them

710
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.440
just in case the monkey men were at the house

711
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:15.719
when they came back. They agreed and left. Then he

712
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.719
told my dad to get the rifle and sit on

713
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:25.320
the front steps with the bullets. Then he told his wife,

714
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:29.199
who was an excellent hunter, to sit on the back

715
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.039
stoop with her favorite shotgun with a box of shelves,

716
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:37.280
which she did. She actually grabbed two. She told Lenny

717
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.239
to stay in the yard and call the boys home,

718
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.079
and thankfully they went far so they came home very quickly,

719
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.400
and she told them just to keep them in the yard,

720
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:51.440
and they played the ballgame in the yard while we

721
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:59.440
stayed in the house. Judy was still depleted. Her mother

722
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:03.039
had put some kind of save on her chest in

723
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:05.360
her back and had been rubbing it and giving her

724
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.039
something hot to drink, but she needed to lie down

725
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:14.960
for a nap, and Lenny led her to her bed

726
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.559
and turned an electric fan on her, and I asked

727
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.519
if I could talk to her, and Lennie explaining, well,

728
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.719
she's about to fall asleep, and I said, well, I'd

729
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:27.679
like to try to keep her from having nightmares. She agreed,

730
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.559
so I went and I explained to her that the

731
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.960
female Monkeyman wasn't trying to hurt her, she was protecting us.

732
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.760
And as I explained it all to her, she agreed,

733
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.880
and she was grateful, and when she woke up, she

734
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:48.840
thanked me because she did not have any nightmares, just

735
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:54.960
as they had planned. About five o'clock that evening, a

736
00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:00.639
large group of men arrived. Some came on horseback, some

737
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:05.719
drove pickups with trailers with horses in them. All brought

738
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:14.360
long guns with them, some shotguns, some rifles. And when

739
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.800
I looked out, I looked out the window just to

740
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:19.440
see what the look on their faces rises. Uncle, you

741
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.480
just told them about what they knew about the monkey Man.

742
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.920
They were all stuff in their pockets, all their pockets

743
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:32.079
with either bullets or shotgun shells, their front shirt pockets,

744
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.320
all for their pants pockets, including their back pockets with

745
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:46.239
stuff with extra bullets and shotgun shells. And I my

746
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.880
step mother rebuked me and said, get away from that window.

747
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.800
You don't need to be curious. And I looked over

748
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.400
that Johnny, and I said, I just wanted to make

749
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.880
certain they weren't any scaredy cats among them. I said,

750
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.519
you should see their faces, Aunt, Johnny, you know they're

751
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:09.119
not afraid. So she rushed up to the window, and

752
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:14.760
she recognized her faces. She was the local avon seller

753
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.480
and she also sold up aware to all her neighbors,

754
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:23.360
so she knew all their wives, and she had seen

755
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:28.400
their husbands there as well, and she was calling them

756
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:32.599
by a name and like like they were. They usually

757
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:36.159
had at least three generations, sometimes four living in the

758
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.360
same house, so you see three or four men from

759
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:43.679
the family there at there there was close to twenty

760
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:50.639
men and all all ganged up there. And we had

761
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:52.480
to live because of the time of day. It was

762
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:57.039
just getting too late that the road was unlit and

763
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.920
very narrow, and so it was as actually dangerous to

764
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.119
drive through the air after dark, and so we got

765
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.119
into the road before it got dark, or we had

766
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:08.599
to get in the car before it got dark and

767
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:13.719
go down the road and we get home. We're all

768
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.199
still thinking about it, feeling word for our family, having

769
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:23.679
nowhere to communicate with them. They didn't have telephones. If

770
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.800
you sent them a letter, it would take over a

771
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.360
week to get to them, and then our reply would

772
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:29.960
take more than a week to get back to us.

773
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.079
So actually the fastest way to visit with them was

774
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:39.519
to talk to them with the visit with them. And oh,

775
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:44.159
by the way, before we left, my dad told Aunt

776
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:48.000
Johnny that even though we usually came on Sundays, the

777
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.199
second Sunday of the month, he'd liked to come back

778
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.400
the next Saturday in case they were still hunting the

779
00:55:53.599 --> 00:56:02.320
monkey man. And she said, please, thank you. Dad already

780
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.119
had all this guns sitting on the table, the kitchen table,

781
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:13.079
and he was cleaning one of them, cleaning all in

782
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:17.519
one of them. And I went to bed, and I

783
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.519
I just couldn't sleep. I kept thinking about that female

784
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:27.119
monkey man. I had to talk about her. She had

785
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.320
saved her life. I know she had kept us safe.

786
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:35.039
I know she had. So I just go in there

787
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:39.480
and telling me even more about what I experienced with her,

788
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:45.559
which my dad appreciated, and I asked. I said, can

789
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.800
they just scare them away? And he said, when the

790
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:55.000
animal is that large, you can't scare it away. There's

791
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:59.039
nothing you can do. They was scare it away. They

792
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.800
just have to kill them, honey. He said, I know

793
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:06.639
you don't feel good about it, especially about that female

794
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:12.320
that helped you, But she's eating her cattle too, so

795
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.199
that's why they're justified in killing her. And I agree.

796
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:21.280
I didn't feel good about agreeing, but I understood. The

797
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.840
next Saturday, we go there and by that time, Dad

798
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:27.440
he's cleaned and recleaned and recleaned each one of his

799
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:32.960
guns in ordum, and got a stock of shells for

800
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.760
all of them, and he's just had them all packed

801
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:40.599
in the back drunk. And my stepmother got worded and said,

802
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:42.519
if we have to stop for a flat tire and

803
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.480
you open that gate, people would call the police on us.

804
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.440
So she got one of her quilts to cover them

805
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:53.360
so in case he had to open his truck, and

806
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:58.559
we about an hour later, we're on the land again.

807
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.239
As soon as the dogs barked our arrival, all the

808
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.559
family came rushing out with big smiles on their faces.

809
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:12.079
They were safe, they were safe. What a wonderful relief.

810
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:16.400
It was that they were all safe. We go inside

811
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:23.360
and Uncle Jess explains to all of us that they

812
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:30.039
did not spot either animal the first night, but the

813
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:34.440
next night they went on the hunting trip again, and

814
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:39.599
that time night they killed the female, and that they

815
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:44.039
had learned already that when one of the monkey men die,

816
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:48.920
you leave the body alone. And he told him about

817
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:54.679
a former neighbor that happened when he was a little boy,

818
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:58.119
so he would have been about He said he was

819
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:00.320
about twelve at the time, which would have been about

820
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:08.159
nineteen hundred or so, and one of their neighbors had killed,

821
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:13.280
also killed a female monkey man out in woods, and

822
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.559
he got his wagon as close as he could and

823
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:20.079
dragged the body and put it on the wagon, showed

824
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:24.840
it to his family, and drove his wagon to horse

825
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.039
drawn wagon to some of his neighbors and showed them

826
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.880
the female monkey man and left it in the wagon

827
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.480
with the intention of showing to ever more neighbors the

828
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:42.199
next day. That night, they were awakened by a monster

829
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:47.760
trying to get into their house. The male was there

830
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:54.079
literally trying to tear apart their house. They all grabbed

831
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:58.639
their boots and they were all excellent shots, and they

832
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:02.199
kept shooting the animal and shooting the animal and shooting

833
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:08.440
the animal, and he kept coming. Finally, he was so

834
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:12.280
wounded he gave up and he left, leading the blood

835
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:16.760
trail out of the yard. They spent a sleepless night

836
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:21.280
waiting for sun set. When they went outside, they found

837
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:27.199
out that all of their livestock had either been nimed

838
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:32.719
or killed. That was, their horses, their cattle, their goats,

839
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.400
and their pigs, and their chickens had been stumped into

840
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:45.360
the ground, all because he had handled that dead monkey.

841
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.239
Mat big for society, who will be right back after

842
01:00:48.280 --> 01:01:06.360
these messages?

843
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.760
And they told him about that story, and that's what

844
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:13.519
Aunt Johnny was thinking about. I spoke about it, so

845
01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.000
that's what Johnny was thinking about. When she made me

846
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:20.519
promise not to tell you about it. He nodded his head,

847
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:26.599
and anyway, he went ahead and said that after they

848
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.079
killed a female and left her body there, they did

849
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:35.559
destroy the nest. They had all brought chainsaws to do so,

850
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.440
and while some men kept watch with their guns ready,

851
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.400
they cut up the log cabin and the trees that

852
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:47.079
were woven together. The next time we came, they had

853
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:53.079
placed gun racks that they had made in every single

854
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.400
room in case he did return, and every room on

855
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:01.679
the well high enough that the children couldn't work, and

856
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.920
a place for the bullets as well, high up on

857
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:10.800
the wall every room. And Aunt Johnny walked with her

858
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:16.000
shotgun everywhere she went, and she was making beds in

859
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.400
the house. She'd have that shotgun with her at all times,

860
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:25.280
hanging clothes on the line, she had a shotgun with her.

861
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:28.280
Going to the outhouse, she carried a shotgun with her.

862
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.760
As long as they lived there. She carried that shotgun

863
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:41.159
everywhere with her. And so she told me that her

864
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:45.079
neighbors were living the same way. All the women were

865
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:48.559
keeping shotguns with them at all times, and anytime the

866
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:51.440
men went into the pastor of the woods, they carried

867
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:56.639
a gun with them, and so that that area stayed

868
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:01.679
on high alert for several years. We weren't allowed to

869
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:10.480
go into the woods in September or October because of

870
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:17.599
that threat. But come November when we arrived, Uncle Jes

871
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:20.039
said he felt thought it was safe for the kids.

872
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.719
He was letting his kids go into the Woodston and

873
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:31.760
Judy's parents took her and her siblings to someplace, and

874
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.320
so I didn't have anybody spend time with personally for me.

875
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:39.800
I brought a book, and I decided to go look

876
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:45.239
at the area where we had seen both animals. The pit,

877
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.559
the square pit had been completely filled, the cut logs,

878
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:58.159
the uh and the gully, or what I thought was

879
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:02.920
a gully. It turns out it had been dug by

880
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:07.280
the monkey men. And that's why that now the dirt

881
01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:11.280
was where it was. My family members had used shovels.

882
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:14.039
They didn't have anything else but shovels to use it.

883
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:18.719
They hadn't shoveled that clay back into the hole. They

884
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:22.760
were that determined to eradicate any sign those animals had

885
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:27.880
been there. I went to the meadow to the same

886
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:32.639
log I had set on before with Judy and felt safe.

887
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:37.960
All around me the woodlands and grasses and shrubs were

888
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:43.400
taking on their fall colors, and it was peaceful, So peaceful.

889
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:47.920
I walked a little feather abound a place to read

890
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:50.440
a book, and I just sat there and read a

891
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:58.039
book and enjoyed the peaceful area. The threat was gone.

892
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.480
It would never come back. I would continue to go

893
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.840
there into the mid seventies, and the monkey man never

894
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:17.639
came back. This is where my story ends, and.

895
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:20.320
That is an incredible account.

896
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:25.840
Thank you, Jeremiah. Do you have any questions?

897
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:32.559
Yeah, I definitely do. I'm still trying to It's a lot.

898
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.280
That's a lot to take in from that story. Is

899
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.079
how did that affect you for the rest of your

900
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:39.400
life as you grew up?

901
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:47.360
Well, I knew they were real, living in the world

902
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:51.880
that didn't believe they existed except for my family, you know,

903
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:55.880
and people in that area. And when there was that

904
01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:04.800
famous film of the female Bigfoot right walking, yeah, I

905
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:08.119
knew that was real. It looks amazingly like the one

906
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:13.199
I had seen out in the woods, even walk like

907
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:18.880
she did and he did. I mean, they walk very

908
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:22.440
much like humans do. And I do have this insight.

909
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:25.800
I know some people believe in portals, and I happen

910
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.400
to be one of those that also does. But there's

911
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:32.599
also an explanation in the natural. While your form questions,

912
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.519
I'll go ahead and share something else. After I was

913
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:39.519
grown and married, my husband lived in another rural part

914
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.920
of Texas and there was a local county that loved

915
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:49.639
to frustrate my neighbors. To Irish settlers, he would walk

916
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:53.480
about ninety feet onto the ground hikers leg and leave

917
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:55.920
us scent. Walk a little feather, hikers leg and leave

918
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:58.920
a scent, and keep doing this for close to ninety

919
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:03.000
feet till he wondered how it was his ladder. Then

920
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:09.679
he would jump up on a rock and leap about

921
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:15.360
at least eight feet in another direction and run off

922
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:20.840
in another direction. Those two dogs would define his scent

923
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:23.159
and follow it up to the rock and think he

924
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:28.079
had disappeared. Well, I saw two of those animals. They

925
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:34.920
have powerful thigh muscles. I'm sure they could jump quite

926
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.760
a distance, So I think one of the way, since

927
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.519
they do not want to be found, and they keep

928
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.519
proving that we human beings that they don't want to

929
01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:47.960
be found, I think a very comptactic of them is

930
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.360
for them, as they're walking along that they just jump

931
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:56.519
out of the area and start walking a different direction.

932
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:00.360
That's one of my explanations for a colon from I

933
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:04.199
can tell you the male reminded me of a chimpanzee

934
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:10.280
face uh in fact that it was color by colored

935
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:14.960
his face. The tide on his face was tan and

936
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.279
his fur was black like a chimpanzee is. But of

937
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:21.960
course he was bigger, much bigger. He looked more like

938
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:27.640
more gorillake than a chimpanzee. But that was what I

939
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.439
thought of at first, was how chimpanzee he looked, because

940
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:34.279
he would buy a color. The palms of his hands

941
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.359
were that beige color, and part of his chest was

942
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.159
also beige. I could see it through his dark fur.

943
01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:48.359
And uh, the female, her features were softer. I mean

944
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:52.560
she still looked like a monster. Okay, Uh if she

945
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.079
growled that you you would think she was a monster.

946
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.760
If if she growled, if she stood between her and

947
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:01.439
a young and you know she was a monster. But

948
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.960
seeing her in that line of day, with that protective

949
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.079
look on her face and tender eyes, I thought she

950
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:16.840
was beautiful. She was again also very ape Blaine, very

951
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:23.239
ape blink, but her head was smaller, more rounded. He

952
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:28.399
has had that sort of rectangular top like gorilla, but

953
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:34.039
hers was more rounded. And I had a feeling she

954
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:36.920
could just look at him with those soft brown eyes

955
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:42.840
and get anything she wanted. That's my guess.

956
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:51.159
Do you remember any really striking differences or similarities between

957
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:54.319
the female monkey man and when you saw the video

958
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:57.079
of Patty or the Patterson gime on film.

959
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.800
Well, yeah, they looked different. Now. I was seeing that

960
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.640
when I saw it. It was in black a black

961
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:08.159
and white TV H and so of course it was

962
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:15.840
all shades of gray and black. She was walking with

963
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:21.640
her knees bent more this the male walked more human like.

964
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:28.119
His help joints and kneed joints and ankle joints were

965
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:33.159
very similar to humans and the way we walk. I

966
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:38.119
can never I could not imagine now he might squat

967
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:43.600
down if he was trying to avoid high branches. It

968
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.199
probably did that. Maybe what she was doing when he

969
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.880
started taking that picture. She may have come from underneath

970
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:51.319
the trees, and that may have been why she was

971
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:56.399
bending her knees. She'd been bending them to avoid tree branches.

972
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.720
That would explain that. But I didn't see her stand

973
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:06.239
completely upright, But I did him, and I did the

974
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:12.720
female it the month the month later. I could never

975
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:18.840
imagine any three of them getting on all fours unless

976
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.479
it was to get something off the ground, but not

977
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:24.760
to crawl across the ground. They just weren't built for that.

978
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:30.239
It would have been awkward if they tried it, and

979
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:36.560
their fur fell back into place very neatly, like a fox.

980
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:40.640
If you ever see a fox in the wild, no

981
01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:44.159
matter what they run through, they always looked neat well,

982
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:47.119
that was the same with their fur or hair, whatever

983
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.119
you call it. It felt more like hair was they

984
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:55.079
were moving about. So I don't know how it's different

985
01:11:55.119 --> 01:12:00.920
from other animals, but they looked neatly kept.

986
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:06.000
There's some phrasing that I want to clarify during your story,

987
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:10.520
just to make sure I'm understanding it. So, during during

988
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:15.560
the hunt, are you saying that the men that were

989
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:20.840
out there urinated around the monkey man's area?

990
01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:24.520
No, I didn't use that word. You used it.

991
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:26.800
Well, I know.

992
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:31.199
What we were talking about. Yeah, I want to make

993
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:35.159
sure that they did that to leave their sinse. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

994
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.760
they definitely did it to leave their sin because they

995
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.640
did not want those animals to return.

996
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:43.479
Yeah, no, that that makes total sense. I just wanted

997
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:44.199
to clarify it.

998
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:48.960
So, yeah, that that's why they did that, just to

999
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:50.279
scare them away.

1000
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.680
Sure, it's like an established dominance type thing. I told you.

1001
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:57.399
Yeah, and I didn't share this before, but Uncle Jens

1002
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:00.239
during the visit after they killed them, well, one of

1003
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:04.600
them explained that several neighbors had already been missing their

1004
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:08.079
pants or livestock. I'm sorry. Some it was cattle, some

1005
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:12.680
it was goats. And so, and I think one pig

1006
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:18.880
had been missing as well, and they so that they

1007
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:23.680
were trying to make certain they never came back, and

1008
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:27.479
no one ever reported them coming back. No one did,

1009
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:29.600
so it had worked.

1010
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.960
Which yes, it's incredible, just to remind so this has

1011
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:38.479
happened in the sixties, so we are talking about sixty years.

1012
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:44.439
The current current time is twenty twenty five. So this

1013
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.960
whole area has grown up. You said, this whole county

1014
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.000
area is totally different.

1015
01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:54.720
Totally different. You will not find the deep woods in

1016
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:59.840
these chick and Van'sant County again, they just don't exist.

1017
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.640
Society has completely taken over. We are already in the

1018
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:08.560
nineteen seventies, all signs of houses being built in that area.

1019
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.840
Does this same family own the property still or they

1020
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:18.319
long gone off of that property?

1021
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:22.880
You know, I don't know. Most of them have been

1022
01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:26.720
dead for several years, gotcha. And as far as I know,

1023
01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:32.239
they sow the land because none of my cousins continue

1024
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:38.119
to live there. So as far as I know, the

1025
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:43.680
land was so I never discussed it with them any

1026
01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:49.000
visits afterwards, so I don't know what happened to it.

1027
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:51.960
So just I guess, just maybe ask that a different

1028
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.479
way too, But I think you just answered it. But

1029
01:14:55.159 --> 01:15:00.279
did you ever when you were older, you know, did

1030
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.039
you ever have a conversation about this with any of

1031
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.399
the individuals involved when you were in a later time

1032
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:07.920
in life?

1033
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:17.239
My parents, I talked with them, with my parents, especially

1034
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:22.000
my dad. That's why I stayed in my memory as

1035
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:28.760
well as it did, because he enjoyed hearing a long

1036
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:32.079
story that was especially a true.

1037
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:36.479
One big for society will be right back after these messages.

1038
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:56.720
And so he let me tell this same account I

1039
01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:02.800
shared with you several times. And often we would just

1040
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.640
be alone. We were the only two people in two

1041
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.880
households of families, me with my husband and children, he

1042
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.239
with his wife children that that got up before daylight,

1043
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:21.119
and we would visit, uh or as soon as the

1044
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.880
light was bright enough that I could make certain I

1045
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:27.000
didn't step on any snakes. That was just concern about

1046
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:29.760
me coming earlier. I'd go to his house and we

1047
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:36.920
would talk about animals a lot. And so yeah, that's

1048
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.600
why I stayed. I mean, when you don't have anybody

1049
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:44.119
else our society, I never heard anybody else talk about

1050
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:49.039
that kind of animal, uh. And when when that movie

1051
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:54.239
was or that film was on TV. People made fun

1052
01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:58.000
of it in public. You know, I'd hear them, you know, oh,

1053
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.760
you could tell it was a cop, somebody in a

1054
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:04.359
costume or that sort of talk. So I knew if

1055
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:07.000
I brought it up, I'd be made fun enough too.

1056
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:08.880
I mean, what good would it do to bring it up.

1057
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.920
It wasn't until modern times that I found a community

1058
01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:18.560
of believers, and now almost anybody believes in monkey or Bigfoot.

1059
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:23.760
I'm sorry. I was at here in a small town

1060
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:28.000
I live in called Wolfe City. We have a a

1061
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:31.880
writers meeting, and I'm not a published writer, but to

1062
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:35.479
the people there that come, there are and I just

1063
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:40.079
come to hear them talk. Basically, well, what did we

1064
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:47.760
talk about this last Saturday? Bigfoot? That subject. I wasn't

1065
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.439
the one they even brought it up. One of our

1066
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.560
other members brought it up. And then when realized that

1067
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:56.880
one of our other members was wearing a shirt with

1068
01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:02.039
big Foot on it, And so when my friend asked

1069
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:04.600
me to tell my Bigfoot story, and so I told him.

1070
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:07.800
When I told all of you my big Foot story,

1071
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.359
now it's a different world. You know, if people don't

1072
01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:14.199
believe it, they just don't bring it up anymore.

1073
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:19.319
Exactly. There's a part of your account that I found

1074
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:23.159
really interesting is the bigfoot was not able to move

1075
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.760
or the monkey man sorry, was not able to move

1076
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:29.960
after you said the name of Jesus, which is incredibly interesting.

1077
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:33.560
First off, why do you think that that affected that

1078
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:34.880
creature in that way?

1079
01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:41.960
Well, I think he probably forgot all about it. He

1080
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:45.840
was just momentarily, he just had that look in his

1081
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:50.119
face like it's just not important to stay here. He

1082
01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:54.079
wanted to chase after his next meal, and those half

1083
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:58.840
grown cowties provided it for him, So I doubt that

1084
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:04.479
he even consider it. Again, he may have. I'm convinced

1085
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:08.359
that that was God's intervention. I know some of your

1086
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:11.159
listeners may not believe that sort of thing, but I'm

1087
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:15.960
alive and well. Something kept me safe from that angry animal.

1088
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:19.720
And an angry animal, even if it's not trying to

1089
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:24.359
hurt somebody, it can accidentally hurt somebody. As small as

1090
01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:27.399
we were, it could have easily have hurt us, even

1091
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.920
if it wasn't trying to. It could have just been

1092
01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:34.960
raving and moving his arms around wildly and knocking one

1093
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:40.079
of us who knows how many feet. But it didn't

1094
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.000
happen because I said that name Jesus. That was the

1095
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:47.560
first time I've ever done that. I never forgot that listen,

1096
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:52.359
and I've used it in other situations that I wanted

1097
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:53.000
his protection.

1098
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:59.079
Absolutely. How long did it take until the bigfoot or

1099
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.279
monkey man could start moving again after you used the

1100
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:02.720
name of.

1101
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:11.000
Jesus almost instantly? He wasn't paralyzed, He just couldn't come forward.

1102
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:14.840
Oh, he was kind of like stud I saw.

1103
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:18.880
Him bump into something invisible. He just bumped. I saw

1104
01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:24.159
his face mash against it. And so he bumped against

1105
01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:28.920
it like that and pulled back and touched it with

1106
01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:32.960
both his hands. And then those coudies came out of

1107
01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:37.600
the tall grass on the meadow and provided his next meal.

1108
01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:44.439
And so my guess is that he never thought about

1109
01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:47.279
it again. No, he may have and just came through

1110
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:50.319
there carefully and discovered it wasn't there and okay, it's gone,

1111
01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:54.640
and just kept walking along. Yeah, that's my guess.

1112
01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:57.880
Almost like he had run into a shield or something,

1113
01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:00.840
some invisible wall. That's that's so interesting.

1114
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.199
Mm hmm. Yeah.

1115
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:07.760
A few more, few more questions here, if that's all right?

1116
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:11.800
Do you know if do you know if any of

1117
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:19.279
the men involved ever shared their story publicly. From their viewpoint, I.

1118
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:23.760
Never heard about it. It could have happened, especially if

1119
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:28.960
they were drinking something alcoholic that often loosens men's times,

1120
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.600
but I never heard about it. I didn't never visit

1121
01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:38.079
with any of their neighbors. I never got to know them.

1122
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:41.920
Our only purpose for going down there was the visit

1123
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.680
with our relatives. So I don't know.

1124
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:53.159
Now the next question, you can definitely decline. I'm going

1125
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:56.520
to ask it just because I try to take this seriously.

1126
01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:01.479
I do take it seriously absolute percent. But I know

1127
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:05.359
this might be a little over the line. But are

1128
01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:10.319
you did this happen near a certain town? It would

1129
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:14.640
be really interesting to know if encounters have happened in

1130
01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:18.640
this same area since that point. If you don't feel

1131
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:23.239
comfortable answering that, that's no problem.

1132
01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:27.359
Well, if people search for the area, they would not

1133
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:33.239
find it. Remember, this is a large animal. God has

1134
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:37.800
to eat large animals to fill its stomach, something like deer,

1135
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:43.960
and so it's not going to be where you can

1136
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.439
easily find it. And they've proven that they want to

1137
01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:53.279
be elusive, they don't want to be found, and so

1138
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:59.319
they they My guess is just from the observation that

1139
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:03.399
they're going to be where people usually don't go. Now,

1140
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:07.039
one of my friends that was at the writers meeting

1141
01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:12.239
last Saturday said that he came across someone that had

1142
01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:15.239
gotten his permission to camp on his ground. He owns

1143
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:20.800
several acres in a rural area. I forget how many

1144
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:25.239
acres he has, but it's a large area. And according

1145
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:28.720
to that man, he saw a large harry figure and

1146
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:33.840
that's what brought up the subject. And he said it

1147
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:37.119
was about eight foot tall, and that would have been

1148
01:23:37.159 --> 01:23:44.520
about thirty minutes from where I live. But you would

1149
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:47.199
you wouldn't find it in town. You're not gonna find

1150
01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:50.399
it at the local dollar store. You're gonna find it

1151
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:54.439
where it's hard for people to go to because they

1152
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:55.399
didn't want to be found.

1153
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:57.399
Absolutely, just like with you.

1154
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:02.560
Yeah, just like with that man that they that animal

1155
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:07.520
came up, came upon the fireplace or fire he was building,

1156
01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:11.119
had a nice ruttle fire going. That was probably what

1157
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:14.760
attracted the animal. He may have been just curious because

1158
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.760
he didn't do anything more than look at the fire

1159
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:23.760
and leave. According to and I didn't bring this up

1160
01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:31.359
during my conversation with Uncle Jess. He brought up the

1161
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:35.359
fact that his own dad had been one of the

1162
01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:39.920
first white men to settle in that particular area, and

1163
01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:44.039
this was the late eighteen hundreds, shortly after the Civil War,

1164
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:53.279
and he was warned. He was already feeling, already knew

1165
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.359
the Cherokee language some of it when he came there

1166
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:01.600
from other encounters with Cherokee, and there were Cherokees Indians

1167
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:06.039
that settled in that area, and they warned him, the

1168
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:11.199
first ones to warn him, never touch a fallen month

1169
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.840
a bigfoot, even if you're the one that killed it.

1170
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:19.920
Don't skin it, by all means, don't skin it. If

1171
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.239
you touch that animal, they will be able to smell

1172
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:26.920
your sin on it, and they will hunt you and

1173
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:32.000
attack your village. That was the warning they had dealt

1174
01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:36.159
with them all those years, and they said, never never

1175
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.960
touch a dead body. And I think we need to

1176
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.079
take that seriously. If you happen to see find a

1177
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:49.199
dead monkey man, excuse me, bigfoot in the woods, don't

1178
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:52.920
try to carry it off. Don't try to do that

1179
01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:57.840
on your own. Please take that warning seriously. They're wild animals,

1180
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:01.479
and wild animals have their rules, whether they agree with

1181
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:04.520
your rules or not, they have their own rules, and

1182
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.880
those while the animals say, do not touch are dead.

1183
01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:14.159
Only they touched the dead, that's their belief. They touched

1184
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:17.159
the dead, they find a place to bury their bodies

1185
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:22.960
where you can't find them. And other than that, I said,

1186
01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:27.239
if you go hunting for bigfoot, carry a large bag

1187
01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:30.239
of apples with you. So I've heard from one source

1188
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:35.079
they love that treat. You might be able to luner

1189
01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:38.600
them with apples. I don't know. For As for me,

1190
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:42.319
I'm not going to give it a try. No way.

1191
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:47.399
I have seen them angry. I know they can how

1192
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:49.960
angry they can be, and I don't want to take

1193
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:53.600
that risk myself. But for those that want to hunt

1194
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:58.960
for them, use wisdom by all means. Carry a GPS

1195
01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:03.199
tracker and tell your family where you're going. If you

1196
01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:06.239
don't have family, tell people that know you and care

1197
01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:09.640
about you where you're going, and keep that GPS tracker

1198
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:12.840
on you because you're going to be traveling in some

1199
01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:18.920
very wild country and if you start chasing an animal

1200
01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.680
like that, you won't be noticing landmarks and you could

1201
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:28.600
easily get lost. But I also know they have their

1202
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.880
gentle side, and I've heard more than one story of

1203
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:34.319
the moss human humans, and i believe it because I

1204
01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:39.960
had that experience myself. I know that she protected us.

1205
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:45.239
Oh something else that the Indians tow my great grandfather

1206
01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:51.560
that these animals were transitory, That is, they traveled a lot.

1207
01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:56.960
And we know through studies when they put regar or

1208
01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:02.279
radio collars on cougars. They have territories that are about

1209
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:08.640
two hundred miles wide, and an animal that large would

1210
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:12.920
probably have an even larger territory. That would explain why

1211
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:18.399
my neighbor had one, or my friend had one that

1212
01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:20.920
was sided on his land. He might not ever be

1213
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:25.520
seen again. He may have just been passing through. He

1214
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:27.600
may have not had a nest there at all. I

1215
01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:31.119
may have just been passing through to another location looking

1216
01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:33.760
for big game to feed them.

1217
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:41.359
It's such a fascinating this is man. I will be

1218
01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:45.359
thinking about this four years. But first off, thank you

1219
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:48.640
for sharing what you experienced. I do want to also

1220
01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:55.560
mentioned before we go, it's very interesting that you're now

1221
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:57.720
in the Wolf City area and it sounds like you're

1222
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:01.840
starting to pick this up. But that area has quite

1223
01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:05.279
the history of bigfoot sightings but also dog man encounters

1224
01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:08.159
as well, So I would say keep your eyes open,

1225
01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:12.279
and I mean if you start. It sounds like you're

1226
01:29:12.279 --> 01:29:14.079
already talking to people about it. But yet, if you

1227
01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:17.039
start talking to people in that area of Wolf City,

1228
01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:20.520
you're going to hear some stories from over the years.

1229
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.039
I've picked some up just through email, and it's some

1230
01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:28.000
really wild stuff in that area. So just definitely keep

1231
01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:28.520
an eye out.

1232
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:34.840
Oh my goodness, do you I haven't searched your videos?

1233
01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:36.600
Do you have any videos about Wolf City?

1234
01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:42.039
I don't not in the I mean maybe after this

1235
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:45.560
I will though. If people are listening and they have

1236
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:48.119
accounts from Wolf City they would like to share, you

1237
01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:51.199
could definitely reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at

1238
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:53.760
gmail dot com. But you know, so far, I don't yet,

1239
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:55.800
but that could change, so.

1240
01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:02.800
It could. Yeah, it's it's classified by the State of

1241
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:06.319
Texas as a rural community, even though we do have

1242
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:12.199
paved roads and we do have a few little stores here. Yeah,

1243
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:17.680
but I stay in among people. I'm not gonna go

1244
01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:19.720
hunting for that animal.

1245
01:30:20.079 --> 01:30:23.399
Absolutely. Last question that I'd like to ask you, do

1246
01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:26.119
you keep in touch with Judy at all? Or has

1247
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:29.079
it been a while since you guys have last talked.

1248
01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:36.720
Judy doesn't want to talk about it, Okay, Yes, she's

1249
01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:39.319
still alive, but she does not want to talk about it,

1250
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:46.760
so I leave it alone. Yeah. Uh, so I don't

1251
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:50.960
know what emo. I mean, we had a lot of emotion. Yeah,

1252
01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:55.079
uh those that summer. I mean it was she had

1253
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:59.159
she had a terrifying experience because she didn't know that

1254
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:00.520
that animal is trying to detector.

1255
01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:02.319
Uh.

1256
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.640
She thought she was being pursued by that animal. And

1257
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:10.720
until I talked to her about it. So okay, I

1258
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:15.039
just don't talk to her about it. If she ever

1259
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:19.600
brings to the subject, I will, but she just gets

1260
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:23.199
a threatened look in her eyes, and I don't push

1261
01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:28.920
the push the topic. And I understand, you know this,

1262
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:35.319
this was such a high emotional time. That's that summer. Wow,

1263
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:38.159
it was. It must have been like that for them.

1264
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:41.000
I was we were only going there once a month.

1265
01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:44.720
They were having the lither every day, listening to that

1266
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:51.319
wooden knocking at night, animals disappearing, and hearing them talk

1267
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:53.680
about it all the time, and she was having to

1268
01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:59.760
keep a secret. I know they had an effect on her,

1269
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:04.399
but I don't know what. I know. It wasn't a

1270
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:04.840
good thing.

1271
01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:09.520
You're handling it the right way where if she does

1272
01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:13.159
ever want to talk, you're available, but you also are

1273
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:18.760
respecting that how she feels about that right now as well. Anna,

1274
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:24.479
it has been such such a privilege to talk to you.

1275
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:29.920
I mean, this is one of the most intense encounters

1276
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:35.800
I've heard since I started this in twenty nineteen. But

1277
01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:38.000
just thank you so much for coming on the show.

1278
01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:40.920
If you ever need to reach out or you know,

1279
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:44.119
feel free to do so if there's anything I can

1280
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:47.199
ever help with. But just thank you for coming on

1281
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:49.119
in chatting today. Anna appreciate it.

1282
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:53.359
Okay, Well, I'll tell you what. If I do talk

1283
01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:55.680
to someone in Wolfe City that has one of those

1284
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:58.960
encounters they want to share, I'll give them your contact information.

1285
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.800
Yeah, I appreciate it that, ma'am. Thank you, You're welcome.

1286
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:08.279
Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

1287
01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:11.960
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

1288
01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:15.640
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1295
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.479
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1296
01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:43.760
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1297
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Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1298
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Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1299
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McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1300
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the North Heart. If you get what I mean, I'll

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