Feb. 10, 2025

They Own That Island! | Prince of Wales Island | Alaska

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, join us as Larry shares his true encounter with Bigfoot in the remote wilderness of Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. Larry details his unsettling experience while exploring an abandoned property and the...

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, join us as Larry shares his true encounter with Bigfoot in the remote wilderness of Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. Larry details his unsettling experience while exploring an abandoned property and the spine-chilling noises he and his wife Monica encountered. As seasoned outdoorsmen, Larry provides a gripping recount of his interactions with what he believes could be Bigfoot, including descriptions of mysterious tree breaks and unsettling tales from Idaho. Don't miss this enthralling and eerie episode as we delve into the unknown and the mysteries lurking in the dense forests of Alaska.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. We've

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got the privilege of talking to Larry today. Larry's an

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individual that reached out to me. He's a listener and

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he's got some interesting things to share. Larry, let's get

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right into it. You can take us back to when

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things started happening for you.

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I was working for the Coast Guard and Catch you Can,

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and I was looking for a property. I'd fallen in

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love with Prince of Wales Island and I really wanted

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to live there I was going to retire for a

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second time, and I just thought it would be the

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greatest place in the world to ride things out. And anyway,

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a friend of mine at the base that I worked with,

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he showed me a came up one day and said, Hey,

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this property hasn't hit they haven't advertised or anything. Maybe

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you'd want to go over and look at this one.

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And it looked beautiful. I mean, it looked like just

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what I was looking for. So I had gotten back

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in touch with who i'd married since my wife, Monica,

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and so we were excited we were going to go

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over there and look at this property. So we had

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just enough time to get on the ferry and we

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took the three hour ride over to Hollis and the

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place we were going to was South Thorne Base. So

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this was in the summer, so I'm guessing this was

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probably July or August, and we drove out to south

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Thorn Bay and we were going to overnight at a

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place called Richardson's Landing, which you can look across from

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Richardson's Landing. And I had slept in my car there

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a couple of times just going over there, spending the

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weekend and fishing or just looking at things, and you

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could look across the bay and see Thorn Bay. There's

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quite a few properties that were sold by the state

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over there. A lot of them were undeveloped. They don't

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have property taxes there, so people can sit on those

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properties for a long time and not be penalized for it.

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And anyway, so we had still quite a bit of

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daylight when we got to Thorn Bay. It was probably

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an hour and a half from the ferry terminal south

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Thorn Bay and at Richardson's landing. So we thought, well,

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let's go out here and see if we can find

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this house. You know, it's still daylight enough, and so

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we took off drove right to it. It was probably

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six miles from five or six miles down a dirt road,

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not a very good road, but there were houses there,

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and some really nice houses have been built there, and

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you could see that some people had put properties in.

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Some people had more resources than others and worked harder

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at it. So there were beautiful homes, you know, and

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some people were just getting by and anyway whatever people

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were capable of doing. So we get to this house,

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we recognized it instantly and I was supposed to meet

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with an old guy there in the morning, and we

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dropped into the property because we knew nobody would be there.

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I had talked to the owner. I got him on

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the phone. He was up in Anchorage, and so we

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walked over and the first thing we noticed is the

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porch had fallen some and that was going to need

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to be repaired. And it was very clear that this

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house had not been lived in in years, which in

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southeastern i Aska, it's kind of a deal, you know,

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it's good to have somebody staying in a house with

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all that rain and moisture and stuff and keeping the

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house heated and drying. Anyway, so Monica went to look

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through the window and I took a quick peek in

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the window too, and it looked pretty good inside. Anyway,

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I thought I would go around and look at the

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water catchment system at the end of the porch. And

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I stepped down off the porch and it didn't have

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a very big tank. And I remember all the lines

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and stuff had moss growing in them and they had

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broken apart, and I was like, well, that's going to

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need to be repaired, you know. And I was kind

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of cooling off about the idea of this house. Already

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there was a large shop on the property and anyway,

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I looked around the water catchment system and then about

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twenty feet from there was the edge of the manicured

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part of it, and it dropped off into the woods.

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So this had been logged. It was all second growth timber,

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and it had been logged maybe back in the sixties,

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because the trees are pretty big. There were some two

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foot trees in there. And I walked over the edge

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of the property and I could hear something down in there,

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and it was maybe one hundred two hundred yards. It

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was hard to place how far it was, but it

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was a conversation that was going on. I strained at

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first to be like, there's people down What on earth

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would people is getting dark? I mean, what on earth

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would people be doing down in there? And then I

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couldn't make out any of the words, and then I

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realized that this wasn't a conversation that people were having.

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That there was like three of these things down there,

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possibly four, And anyway, it just sounded like gibberation and

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up and there were whoops and haulers throwing in there.

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It's like they're all pocketing each other, talking over each other,

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and I remember listening there and just making myself listen,

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trying to figure what it was, and just having this

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overwhelming feeling and the voice in my head that said leave,

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leave now. And anyway, I turned around and I went

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back up on the porch and Monica had walked around

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to the other side of the house and I said, hey, hon,

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I don't think we're going to buy this house. Let's

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go get in the car and you know, let's take off.

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And she said, no, I want to go check out

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the shop over there. And so we had to walk

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by the car and I just like went up and like, okay,

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get in the car, come on, we don't need to

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look at the shop. And she's just being herself, you know,

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she's super curious about things, and so that it had

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all stopped, and I told her, I hear something down

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in the woods. You know, I'm pretty uneasy about it.

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I want to take off. I don't think we should

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hang around. And she said no, I would just like

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give me a minute look at the shop. She didn't

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feel any of this anxiety that I had felt about this,

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and so she stuck her head inside the shop and

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it had been filled up full of logging equipment that

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was like in ruins. I don't have any idea why

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somebody would put the things in that shop that were

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in that shop. My kid was almost filled to the

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ceiling with stuff. I just I was looking. I looked

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in there over her shoulder, and she had her head

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in there, and the whole thing down in the woods

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started again, and I could hear it clearly again. I said, honey, honey,

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I want you to hear something. And I pulled her out.

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I said, can you hear that? And she looked at

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it and she says, no, I don't hear anything. I'm like, okay. Well,

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then she was satisfied with what she's seen, and you know,

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I got her. I moved her back off toward the car,

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and you know, got her in the car and away

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we went. But that was probably the closest thing I

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have ever had to to you know, an encounter, actually,

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but I don't I can't tell you one hundred percent

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what it was. You know, I've heard sand hill cranes

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up there. They make a kind of an odd racket

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when they're conversing back and forth and doing their mate

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and stuff. And I thought, well, it wasn't. It wasn't that,

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you know, that feeling of being just overwhelmed with feeling

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like I was in immediate danger. I can tell you

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I have spent a tre mend this amount of time outside,

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like like I'm the guy that hunts every day of

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the hunting season and just never really felt at not

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being at ease in the woods, just except one other

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time in Idaho and I was just hunting up off

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of Highway twelve up the Lochsaw River and I was

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quite a waves up on the side of the mountain

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and got it feeling very similar to that, and I

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was just like everything was just dead quiet, Like the

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woods are not dead quiet if you take the time

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to listen, and you know you're trying to be a

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part of the environment when you're hunting. And I had

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a rifle with me, and I was just like, oh,

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I just do not want to be here, and down

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the mountain I went and walk back up the highway

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with my rifle back to my pickup. But those were

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the only times that I ever really felt incredibly not welcome.

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That's a good way to put it. I didn't really

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feel welcome.

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Oh, Larry, that is an incredible account from Prince of

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Wales Islands. There's some really interesting things that happen on

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that island. And thank you for adding what happened to

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you to the list. For sure, what year again was

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this that you experienced this on the island?

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Oh, I guess that was probably eighteen nineteen. It wasn't

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that long ago.

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It was like twenty nineteen.

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And our church, yeah, our church has the pastors come

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in every year from different places, and you know, we

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them and put them up and stuff and they speak

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to the congregation. And one of them is he was

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from Mexico City, and he was like, hey, I've heard

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there's a lot of bigfoot stuff going on on this island.

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And anyway, I told him my story about that place.

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He's like, come on, Larry, let's go out there. You know.

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So I spent the day with Pastor Dave and we

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went out there. Well, when I went out there with

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Pastor Day and now this would have been two years ago,

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they had this state I'm guessing it was this state.

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They had developed a road and now there was at

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least two houses that had been built behind behind the

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property that we were looking at. So those woods are

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no longer, just like the end of the road and

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down in there, so you know, there's the other stuff

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there now. So it's not a a wild wild into

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the unknown place exactly anymore. I don't know. Maybe at

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the end of the lower road there now maybe, But yeah,

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they built some stuff. And I remember listening to your

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conversation with a guy named Dylan. He was in the

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logging industry. Absolutely, you remember Dylan.

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Oh yeah, I've still been talking to Dylan on the side.

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So Dylan talked about the Cardiff River. So one of

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my one of my friends, he's a contractor builds houses.

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He told me about an experience he had up the

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Cardiff Oh really, Cardiff River, Yeah, he said, he Well,

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it turned out to be a fisherman, but he said

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he was absolutely positive he was looking at a sasque

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in the river. The Sokeye come in, you know, in June. Anyway,

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But my friends up in Knockety they did give me permission,

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told him I was going to be on your podcast,

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and they told me that I was welcome to share

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a couple of the stories they told me about what

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had happened up in knock Andy. And apparently a few

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years ago they were building their cabin or upgrading it.

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And my friend Dean, he has a little sawmill up there,

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and Dean came from Idaho. It just an ironic twist

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of fate. Dean and I know know the same people.

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So people I ran around with before I left Idaho

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were people that were Dean's family. But Dean was cutting

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right away. He runs a saw he you know, does

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what he's got to do. But he's got a little

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sawmill on the property and he's building a house and

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his wife, Juliet is just one of the most beautiful people.

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Dean would go out and he would run the generator

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and then at some point they would get ready to

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go to bed. And I think this was before their

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kids came, so this was probably twenty years ago somewhere

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in there. And he would go out and turn the

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generator off with his dog. And he went out to

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turn the generator off and something screamed at him on

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the edge of their property, and Dean said it frightened

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him and the dogs so bad. The dog, you know,

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wouldn't go out, and at least the dog would, you know,

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always go out and patrol the house. And the dog was,

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you know, pretty leary about getting too far from the

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house after that, but they said that scream and Juliet

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heard it too. She was waiting for Dean to come

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in and you know, lights out and they were getting

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ready for bed after he turned off the generator. But

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he said that scream went on for so long and

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it was so ear piercing that he's he said he'd

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fill the generator up and just let it run out

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of gas for like two years after that.

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Big for society. Who would be right back after these messages.

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It was a freak to go out there to turn

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it off a get which you know, I don't blame him,

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but other people in Knockety have similar stories, especially around

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that same time, that they think it was a female.

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You know, that they set up at Sarcar Lakes and

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people were vacationing up there overnight and up there in

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a camping trip or something, and they heard a very

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similar scream, just blood curdling, pack your stuff up and

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go home type stuff, you know. And one of the

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more interesting things that Dean told me as well, he

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was cutting right away. He said he found a place

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where there were just bones everywhere. He said, it didn't

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make any sense the amount of bones that were there.

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He was just cutting through the brush and there was

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a little clearing there, just bones everywhere. He said. One

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of the things that was there was a bear, a

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large bear carcass that was turned completely inside out. I

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thought about what that might look like, and you know

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Dean's experience, but he said it was turned inside out.

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So I asked him, I said, there he cut marks

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on it was a gutted He said, no, is just

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turned inside out. I can't even imagine what might be

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able to do that or how that would even be done.

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But it was just laying on the ground. There's some

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very large bears on that island, and Dean said it was.

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It was a big, big bear.

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Dean happened to mention if it had a broken neck

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at all.

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I don't think it was attached to the I think

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it was just the hide. Oh like somehow the hide

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had been ripped off the animal. Yeah. I think that

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was my take on what he told me.

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Anyway, the time that you spent on the island, you know,

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the other people I've talked to, they always mentioned that

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it's very you know, sasquatch is very ingrained into the culture.

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Is that something that you noticed yourself in the time

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that you spent on the island.

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No, like, no, I But as far as like the

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native people and stuff. I have a couple of Native friends,

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and you know, it's not something we've gotten into a lot.

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There was, you know, the tree breaks and stuff. There's

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there's a place where there's several of those I found,

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just just found them and they're all alder trees. And

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that's out by Thorn Bay too, And that's that's kind

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of mind perplexing to me how that happened. Like those

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breaks are quite a ways up those trees like that,

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they had to have been over to be broken, I guess.

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But that could very well just be my It could

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just be my experience. Like I just don't know enough

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people to you know, when I was when I was

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down in Idaho, I got to know a lot of

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Naspers people. But I haven't really broke in with the

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clinkets or the items. Yeah, yeah, I got a friend

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down in Heidelberg that he hasn't told me anything. Really.

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So the breaks that you saw up in the trees,

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how high up would you approximate that.

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Those were fifteen feet? Oh my goodness, fifteen to eighteen feet. Yeah,

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and they're not trees you could bend over easily. I

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mean there are four or five inch trees some of them,

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so there may be a little thin because you're yeah,

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and there are several of them, you know. I remember,

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I remember when I found those. I stood there and

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looked at him, and I had somebody with me. I'm like,

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what on earth do you suppose happened there? You know?

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And a lot of people just don't want to like

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really engage any of that, you know.

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Oh really, even on the islands, no load.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm I'm meeting people on

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the island.

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My wife and I have only been there about four years.

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And remember we had even found a house when the

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thing happened out in south Thorne Bay, so we were

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still looking for a place. In fact, the place we

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found the Coast Guard movers were a week away from

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picking my stuff up and moving meat Idaho. When the

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place we bought came open and became available. It was

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it was a crazy time man, trying to put that together.

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Did you guys end up staying on Prince of Wales

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then for a while?

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No? In fact, when we found our place, we moved.

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When the movers came. We knew we were going to

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purchase that house, and so we were able to buy

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that house on Prince of Wales Island. We split our

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property when the movers came and said this day is

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this days, this days? And then my wife and I

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loaded a U haul truck and the people, good people

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down at the ferry called me up and said, Larry,

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are you going to be able to make the ferry?

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And I was pulling the door down on the back

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of the U haul truck and we drove across to

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the down to the ferry and got on the ferry.

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We're the last people on the ferry, so and then

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we unloaded all our stuff and just the kindest people

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in the world, people from the ferry, when they found

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out we had bought a house there on that island,

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they came and sat with us back in the galley

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and welcomed us and told us how much we were

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going to love the island and how much they've loved

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living there, and welcomed to our community, you know, and

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all that. It was a nice, nicest thing. And then

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when they got done dock in the boat and lashing

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the boat up, a couple of them you know, drove

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up the klook to help us unload the moving truck.

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So it was just a super super thing to experience.

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To be so welcomed, that is that is really cool.

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I have another question regarding Thorn Bay. Could you tell

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if what you were hearing was inside your head or

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with your actual ears. No, I wasn't inside my head

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the whole the whole thing about you know, we need

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to leave here now, like right now. That was inside

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my head, but the rest of it was very audible.

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And I've got some earing damage from you know, all

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the stuff I've done in my life to make a living.

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But yeah, it was just as plain as could be.

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And to this day, you know, Monica swears she didn't

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hear any of it. So that's interesting in itself.

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It really is. And it does line up with a

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few things that I've heard over the years, where sometimes

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people in an area can hear or experience something other

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people in the party have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah,

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I've heard that a few times. When you heard the

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leave get out now, was that more of an actual

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voice in your head that you were hearing or just

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you're inside of you being like I am so I

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feel so anxious about this that I need to leave.

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Was it more of that.

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No, it was a clear, audibleized set of distinct words.

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It was like my voice. I've heard that voice before,

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but not very often. Okay, but yeah, it was just clear.

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There was nothing wishy washy about it. It was absolute, concise.

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It's starting to go, you.

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Know, absolutely.

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But yeah.

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Would you say that it was more your internal voice

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or did it sound like a totally different voice?

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Boy, man, I don't know. It could go either way, sure, gotcha,

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Like I would say it's more my Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know if I could really attach any weight

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to one side or the other on that. But it

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was very clear and matter of.

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Fact after that time. Did you have other experiences where

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you would hear statements or experience them internally after that?

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No? Okay, no, not really. Like I say, I'm very

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comfortable being outdoors and stuff. I really enjoy just going

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out into the natural world and becoming part of it.

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You know, I've heard from a few different loggers on

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this island about things they've experienced. Have you ever heard

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any hunters that have experienced sasquatch when they've been out hunting.

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No, but yes, now i'd have to take you back

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to Idaho, because I actually spent twenty seven years in Idaho,

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and so I can give you something I experienced, and

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then I can tell you a story that I was

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close to. Okay, and I got it firsthand from the

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guy that experienced it. So the first one is up

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by the Montana Idaho border. There's a place called Meadows,

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and I used to go up there and stay with

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There's a cabin there and the book a River runs

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through it, and a book or a called The Ranger,

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the Cook and the Hole in the Sky was written

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by the same author in the same cabin. And anyway,

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that an old couple. I think their name was Stratford. Anyway,

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I used to go up and they would I would

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spend the night in the cabin with them. There was

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a salt licks outside back before the wolves got reintroduced Idaho,

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and the moose would be out there every morning. We'd

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sit on the porch and drink coffee and watch the moose. Anyway,

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there was a lake out there, and I had heard,

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like all fishermen, if you tell me a good fishing

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story about some mythical place, I'm likely to, you know,

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lose sleep from until I can get out there and

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see it for myself. But there was there's a lake

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out there called Duck Lake, and it's maybe a four

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and a half mile trek to Duck Lake. So I

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had planned a trip there with another adult, and we

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were camping at Hoodoo Lake, which is up at one

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end of Belk Meadows, and there's a trail that took

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off behind that cabin, that took off in the general

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direction of Montana but to go up to Mount Diablo

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and then from there, they say there's a trail that

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goes down to that lake, but I don't think there is.

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So I could see pretty clearly the trail would go

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up a ridge, and the trail wasn't maintained. There are a

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lot of dead fall across it. But I could see

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the basin that Duck Lake was in over across the valley,

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and this was just a beautifully U shaped glacially car

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had trees growing in it. So we made the decision.

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My brother showed up right before we took off, so

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there were three adults and there were two kids, and

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the kids were about ten years old, and we took

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off off of the trail. We made the decision to

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cut across there and then climb back up out of

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that little valley up to the lake. So we took

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off from the trail, got down into the valley. You

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could smell the rancid rotting. It's stunk, terrible, and I'm

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looking around for you know, at that point, supposedly the

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Fishing Game Department hadn't put the grizzly bears back in,

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but you know, I was here in rumors that people

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had seen them and anyway, yeah, so yeah, that's another story.

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But we got down into the bottom. There wasn't a

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lot of brush in there. It was just it was

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almost like a park, you know, to walk across this valley,

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and the valley was only maybe three eighths of a

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mile across or so, but there was a terrible ell

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in there. And the trees. So the trees are spaced

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a long ways apart, maybe a lot further apart than

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you would see even in a healthy force. But we're

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getting close to being at the tree line. You know.

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Mount Diablo of course was up above the tree line.

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So the trees, there was about three hundred of these

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trees in the base of that valley that had been

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stripped of their bark three hundred and sixty degrees around,

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completely stripped like they were still green. The needles hadn't

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even begun to rust or you know, and these trees

459
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.160
are just weeping pitch, but they had been stripped of

460
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:46.400
their bark. Three hundred of these trees, probably twelve to

461
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:50.359
fourteen feet up and there again. You know, I just

462
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.079
stood there just marveling at what on earth could have

463
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.599
cause this, And of course everyone was looking over their

464
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.200
shoulder because of the smell that was in that valley,

465
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.839
and but you know, nobody, you know, as far as

466
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.519
we knew at that time, there were no grizzly bears

467
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:13.359
that had been reintroduced back into Idaho. So yeah, we

468
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.559
made our trip, and I've just always wondered that, of course,

469
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.519
those trees have got to still be there, and I

470
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:25.119
think there they've got to still be there and still standing.

471
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:30.400
But I think they're probably now that that was probably

472
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:35.680
two thousand, that that happened the summer of two thousand,

473
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.480
But I just I just can't imagine, you know, what

474
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:49.000
possibly could have done that, Like if it was a bear,

475
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.559
I can't imagine they could have raked the bark off there?

476
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.519
Why big for society? Who will be right back after

477
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:55.319
these messages?

478
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.359
You know, I haven't seen you know, I've seen a

479
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.200
lot of claw marks. You know, I've seen cats make

480
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:22.880
claw marks on trees. They do it pretty low. But

481
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.640
I just can't imagine what would strip the bark off

482
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.279
of those trees. I mean, we weren't even close to

483
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.799
the trail at that point, Like, we were probably a

484
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:36.839
good half mile from the trail. So there was that.

485
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:47.200
So did you want to say someone, Yeah.

486
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.759
I just joined I was there at the pow incident. Sorry,

487
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.559
I just took a bite of my lunch. So my

488
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.000
take on it, because I heard you say to Larry,

489
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.279
was that a clear, you know, audible voice or you

490
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:02.240
were asking.

491
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.160
Him sure about you need to leave?

492
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.599
So I did not hear it. But here's my take

493
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.960
on it. We were newly weds, first of all, and

494
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.559
we were either just married or getting married. But anyway,

495
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559
we're looking at the house, and I'm more interested in

496
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.599
looking at the house, and I've got my nose up

497
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.240
to the window peeking inside this cabin. And so what

498
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.559
I recall, looking back on it was when he heard

499
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.440
the noise that I did not hear when he heard

500
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.440
the noise, and he was he was letting me know

501
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.319
we need to leave. He verbally, outwardly to me said

502
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.960
we need to leave, and we need to leave now.

503
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.480
And I'm kind of like, well, wait a minute, I

504
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.079
want to look you know what women do you know?

505
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.680
I want to look in this location or look in

506
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.880
this window. And he's like, no, we need to leave now.

507
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.759
And so we get in the car, and that's when

508
00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:58.480
he asked me.

509
00:32:58.559 --> 00:32:59.880
This is what my recollection of it.

510
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.559
That's when he asked me, didn't you hear that? And

511
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.680
I was like, no, but hear.

512
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.680
What you stuck your head and right, and I was busy.

513
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:11.279
In other words, what I'm trying to say is I

514
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:12.079
was busy, So.

515
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.079
Yeah.

516
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.400
And so what my take on it is is his

517
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.039
gut was telling him rather than the audible voice thing.

518
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.319
His gut was telling him you need to get out

519
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.000
of here now. And the reason I think I didn't

520
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:31.480
hear it because I believe him wholeheartedly. But I think

521
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.559
the reason I didn't hear it is number one, my

522
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.000
focus was looking at a cabin that was for sale.

523
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:41.720
And number two, I'm not as in tune to this,

524
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.119
especially the bigfoot stuff that. You know, Larry has shown

525
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.880
an interest for that in that in most of his life,

526
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:53.240
and I I'm one of those people that I have

527
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:56.119
no idea what you're talking about. You know, I wasn't

528
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:00.039
an outdoorsman, and so I might have. I might I

529
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.440
saw a cartoon character or something, you know what I'm

530
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.880
saying about bigfoot. So so I'm not My ear is

531
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.880
not in tune to that type of whooping sound that

532
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.280
he heard, and so for me, it was I might

533
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.960
have heard a forest sound, but it was a forest sound,

534
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.559
so it meant nothing to me, do you know what

535
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:21.039
I'm saying.

536
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.719
Yeah, that makes sense explained that one.

537
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:28.760
Yeah, why I didn't hear it and he did and

538
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.360
we were in the same proximity, and so I'm trying

539
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.760
to I've often looked back at that, going, well, how

540
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.559
come I didn't hear it. I'm just not as in

541
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:40.679
tune to a really odd forest sound.

542
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.880
That he was in tune too. Absolutely, there's my take

543
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:46.239
on it.

544
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.000
Thank you, Monica, You're welcome.

545
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:53.360
I'm sure you've heard that some of the audio tapes

546
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.880
that have been recorded, like in Yosemite, those hunters that

547
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.679
had the camp there. Yeah, that's that's an interesting story.

548
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:06.519
What they recorded is what I heard. It was very

549
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:07.239
similar to.

550
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:11.719
That, okay, So similar to the Sierra Sounds is what

551
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:12.480
we're referring to.

552
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:19.079
Yeah, okay, yeah, pretty pretty similar to that. But every

553
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.800
once in a while I'll hear see something that somebody's

554
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.239
recorded no play and it'll be like, yeah, I wasn't

555
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.480
like that, or yeah there's elements of that that I heard,

556
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.199
you know, I got. I got a pretty good listen

557
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.119
on it, you know, for.

558
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:41.159
What it was, Larry, Just to have just a few

559
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.599
more questions for you and maybe some kind of random

560
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.559
ones here at the end. Do you know anything about

561
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:53.159
a section of Prince of Wales Island called Port Protection?

562
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:05.559
Yeah, yep, Lavisher Bay for Protection. I think the guys

563
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.920
have to like jumping their boats up there at Lavisher

564
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.920
Bay and and take off. My grandson and I go

565
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:16.920
hunting up that way sometimes, but I've never actually been

566
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:17.800
to Poor Protection.

567
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.920
Okay, is it Is it a more wooded area or

568
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.599
more remote than the other areas on the island in

569
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:25.079
any way?

570
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.480
Well, yeah, you could make a case for it being

571
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.519
more remote, but more wooded. There's a lot of woods

572
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:37.199
on that island. There's a lot of a lot of

573
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:41.000
it's been logged and it's there's there's still quite a

574
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:46.519
bit of old growth timber there, but even the second

575
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.039
growth is coming back.

576
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.119
Okay, thank you. Yeah, that's that area might come into

577
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.239
play later on this show. We'll see. I can't really.

578
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.960
There might be someone that has something to say about that,

579
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:06.599
but that'll have to wait for later. The other thing

580
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.039
being on the island, I've heard from some people that

581
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.199
there are a lot of missing people cases. Is that

582
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.159
maybe something that is overexaggerated or have you heard things

583
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:20.599
like that?

584
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.639
I have it, No, I know, I don't know. Do

585
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:29.840
you know what a karst is. There's a lot of

586
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.000
limestone on the island, and when the limestone erodes, say

587
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:39.000
through just being dissolved by water over time, it can

588
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.079
create underground rivers and streams and stuff, and then the

589
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.639
surface will collapse in on it. So there's a lot

590
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:54.519
of caves on the island, So I don't know. I

591
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.119
think people probably stumble into them or find them when

592
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:03.719
they're out hunting. And people that did hunt and get

593
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:07.639
away from their rigs, you know, and really spend their

594
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.599
time out there doing it the right way. I think

595
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:16.559
most people come across them, so if somebody had come

596
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:18.360
up missing, it'd be something like that.

597
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.760
Maybe that makes total sense.

598
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.199
Yeah, it hasn't been in our local newspaper in the

599
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.119
last since we've lived there. You know, like you know,

600
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.440
Joe is missing type stuff.

601
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.280
And there's there's a lot of carrying people. Like if

602
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.039
somebody came up missing, you know, chances are a pretty

603
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:41.159
good team of people would be mustered up to go

604
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.679
after them. We did a lot of search and rescue

605
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.280
stuff with people in Idaho. Oh really, I've heard from

606
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:49.840
the locals. Don't talk about it.

607
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:52.559
Okay, it's kind of a big deal.

608
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.719
Then you know, we're not. Yeah, so a matter of

609
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.880
getting networked in. We're just not networked in the way

610
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.239
a lot of people are. It's just going to take

611
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.119
time to make all those connections. We we have a

612
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.760
church we go to and we love our church family,

613
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.920
and and you know, I've talked to the pastors about

614
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.119
what they think maybe I experienced, and you know, their

615
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:21.079
opinion of it is it's like it's probably more demonic

616
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.519
than anything else, and how to stay away from it.

617
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.199
But I don't know.

618
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.480
We have not heard of missing people, but the natives do.

619
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.159
I have heard from other people saying don't talk to

620
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.639
the natives about sasquatch because it's a taboo subject.

621
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.519
So that's the only thing I've ever heard that's interesting.

622
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.800
Everything is everything in his time?

623
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:53.920
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely? One other, one other question just

624
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.440
in case. So when I talk to people about this area,

625
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:04.079
sometimes what what comes up is that there are sasquatch

626
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.480
on the island that actually have only four toes instead

627
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.800
of what you would normally see, and that there might

628
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:16.039
be different groups of them on the island. Is that

629
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.119
anything that's ever come up in conversation before while you've

630
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:20.679
been on there.

631
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.400
Well, I can tell you I moved pretty slowly when

632
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.800
I'm moving through the woods, and I'm watching for everything.

633
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.199
If if I ever do come across some tracks or something,

634
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:41.000
and I'm always watching, people talk about that. No I haven't.

635
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.239
But but Larry, if you do happen to find some

636
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.079
tracks up there, I'd love to hear about that too.

637
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.639
That that would be pretty cool. So either way for sure.

638
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:59.239
Well, yeah, absolutely, let you know, you know it, it

639
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.760
could happen. How much time have we got left?

640
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:08.280
I mean, where about forty seven minutes and so we

641
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.800
still have time. If there was something else that you

642
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:13.639
were wanting to make sure that you share. You shared.

643
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:20.400
Yeah, yeah, so Idaho again.

644
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:21.079
Okay.

645
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.880
So I was a correctional officer for about twenty five years,

646
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.559
and I ran a fire crew out of a prison

647
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:33.599
in or Afino for several years of that. But back

648
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.840
in I started there the first week in nineteen ninety

649
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.679
and probably nineteen ninety two or ninety three, I was

650
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.480
dating a girl and I really liked her father. Dad

651
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.599
was still out in the woods logging, and I thought,

652
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.760
you know, he was somebody that I really admired, you

653
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:56.840
know when he had lived quite a life, and I

654
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:03.440
really liked hearing about things had done and experienced. Anyway,

655
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.679
every Friday, these old guys, there was five of them,

656
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.159
and their families had all grown up together, and their

657
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.639
wives were the best friends. And these guys on Fridays

658
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.960
would get together at somebody's house and they would have

659
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:22.599
a few beers maybe and do a barbecue or something,

660
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.280
and everybody, the women would get together and get caught

661
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.920
up and the guys would, you know, remember when and stuff.

662
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:34.320
So that whole group is a generation I enemy, and

663
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.239
I believe most of them are gone now, but they

664
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.000
I was there one time, and I had a bit

665
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.559
a job in the prison system before I went over

666
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.800
and did the farcer stuff. So I'd only been there

667
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.400
about three years at the prison and they asked me.

668
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.199
They said, hey, is they're a guy up at your

669
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.840
prison name so and so, and I can't give you

670
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.159
his name, but I said, yeah, he's on my unit.

671
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.519
And you know, they said, I'll tell you one thing.

672
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:11.320
He he has footage. He showed it to all of

673
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.280
us and he used to be part of us. But

674
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.159
they said, if we had found out what he did,

675
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.119
the cops never would have found him. So he was

676
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:24.440
he was doing stuff that was, you know, despicable, but

677
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.639
they didn't know, you know, until it all broke and

678
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.840
they caught him and tried him and all that. So

679
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.800
he was close to everybody's families and stuff. He was

680
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:38.519
kind of a part of this group. But he had

681
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.519
carried a Super eight camera with him, one of the

682
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:46.119
old crank jobs, I think, and he got in the

683
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.519
habit of carrying it everywhere he went. So this was

684
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:52.800
about the same time when that Patterson Gimlin film had

685
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.559
come out, and of course Idaho was far less populated

686
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:59.639
than than it is now, so I'm guessing this took

687
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:04.800
place in the late sixties, and anyway, he had a

688
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.119
story to tell. And they told me that he had

689
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.440
killed an elk back up behind a place called Johnson's Mill,

690
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:15.599
not far from Orphino, and he had gone out there

691
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.719
and he had gutted this elk and he got it home.

692
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.840
So these old guys told me this story, and they

693
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:26.480
said he got film, but they said it was a

694
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:31.679
partial cut where anyway on this film that he showed them,

695
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.360
apparently there was an elderberry bush and he could see

696
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.840
something black behind the elderberry bush. And the motivation for

697
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.039
all this was this happened the day after he had

698
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.480
killed that elki, he had gotten the elk out, he

699
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.159
got home, he realized he didn't have his pocket knife

700
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:45.559
with him.

701
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.000
Big for society, who would be right back after these messages.

702
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.840
And somehow he's like, okay, I sat the pocket knife

703
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.519
down on a gut pile. I gotta go. So the

704
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.079
next day he drove up there. He took the camera

705
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.320
with him. He was in the habit of doing and

706
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.719
he was walking down this road and he sees the

707
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.800
elderberry bush out in his partial cut, not far down

708
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.400
off of the road. He's walking on the road's behind

709
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:33.320
a lock gate. So he had to leave his pickup

710
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.679
back behind a lock gate, and at I believe that

711
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.000
road is still locked, and I don't for some other reason.

712
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:43.280
I hunted other places, but I'd never been down that road.

713
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.679
But he left his rig there. And so it's like

714
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.519
thirty three thirty four degree snow where the stuff is

715
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:53.000
just super big and heavy and it's coming down just

716
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.119
in huge flakes, and so he sees this black thing

717
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:58.960
and he thinks, well, I'm gonna get some footage of

718
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.920
a bear. I'm going to get some footage of a moose.

719
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:04.000
You know, this is going to be great. And he

720
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.960
starts cranking the film and anyway, out from behind this

721
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:13.239
bush steps one of these creatures, and apparently it was

722
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.920
absolutely enormous, and the thing was surprised he was there.

723
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.760
These guys said that in that piece of film you

724
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.159
could see right in its face that it had decided

725
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.199
it was going to kill him. And they said it

726
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:33.480
took like three or four steps toward him up toward

727
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.800
the road, very quickly, and they said you could see

728
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:43.159
right in its face that it changed its mind not

729
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:48.280
to kill him. And so all five of these old

730
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.719
boys were telling me the story and adding to it,

731
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.039
you know, and you think, okay, well, you know, I'm

732
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.360
I'm a young guy, I'm a little vulnerable here that

733
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.519
it might be just you know, enjoying thking on me

734
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:06.480
a little bit here. So anyway, the next day I

735
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.360
go up to work and I call the guy up

736
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:13.039
to my window and I'm like, hey, I heard you've

737
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.719
seen something back up behind Johnson's mill. And his eyes

738
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:18.679
got great big says, what do you want? What do

739
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.360
you want to know, Warren? You know, I'll tell you.

740
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.119
I was like, tell me, tell me every bit of it.

741
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.880
So he goes back just the two stories aligned perfectly.

742
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.559
And anyway, he apparently filmed it walking all the way

743
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:37.360
out after it decided not to not to do him harm.

744
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.440
It turned around and loped off, you know, and dig

745
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:44.320
giant strides off through that clearcut, and he filmed it

746
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.800
for you know, one hundred and fifty yards and by

747
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:49.880
the end it's probably a black dot on the film.

748
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.000
But he said that he took that film up I

749
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.239
think it's probably the University of Idaho or the University

750
00:47:56.239 --> 00:48:00.639
of Washington, and he showed it to him. Hey watched it,

751
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.119
and you know, they sent the film back home with him,

752
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.480
and so he'd been sitting on it for years and years. Well,

753
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:13.079
his wife was still she was still living in an Orpino,

754
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.599
and as a correctional officer, he said to me, he said,

755
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.760
I'll call my wife when you get off work. Go

756
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.639
get that film. You know, he said, there's enough interest

757
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.239
in this that people would want to see that. The

758
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.480
biggest qualifier, this whole thing of this, this thing that

759
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:38.079
I was told, wasn't these guys said, the five guys

760
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.000
that told me about it, the old guys, they said,

761
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.360
there is no way he was smart enough to hope

762
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:49.960
something like that. They're just no way. And anyway, I

763
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.559
just always just wondered, like, gosh, darn it, you know

764
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.760
that film has to exist out there in the prison, says.

765
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.840
And he wound up being taken to Boysee down the hospice,

766
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.559
and I believe he passed a cancer. Sometimes the state

767
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:09.519
of Idaho turned somebody loose before they pass away, you know,

768
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.079
to well, it's expensive to take care of people, you know,

769
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:20.320
that have medical issues that are severe. But yeah, I

770
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.480
never met his wife and never anything. But I just

771
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.400
always you know that on just the outside chance and

772
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.239
maybe his kids got his stuff that he was able

773
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.639
to you know, they were able to find that film

774
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.440
or maybe they had knowledge of it, if he even

775
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.039
had any kids, I don't know, but gosh, you know,

776
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.199
I just love to see it. And they all told

777
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.519
me that that clarity of that was way better than

778
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.039
the Patterson Gimlin film. And he told me that he

779
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:52.840
knew he was going to be killed when that thing

780
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.719
stepped out from the brush. He said, he thought, well,

781
00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.159
I'm just going to keep filming this, you know, and

782
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:03.320
hope they'll find a camera later. You know.

783
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:07.039
Oh, that's incredible. Wow, you imagine thinking like that. I mean,

784
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.880
good on them for continuing to film it, though, but

785
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:16.320
I mean I just hope that somedays someone stumbles upon

786
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.800
that or maybe someone listening, you know, maybe he's like, hey,

787
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:24.239
that's my relative, I know what that film is, you know,

788
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.360
and you feel free to reach out. But wow, that's

789
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:28.320
an incredible story.

790
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:33.960
It really is that as much as anything got me

791
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:38.400
really paying attention to really got me paying attention to

792
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:45.760
this stuff. We yeah, I don't know. There's just so

793
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.440
many questions there, Like I spent so much time in

794
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:54.480
Idaho's outdoors, you know, the incident with the trees, you know,

795
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.599
there was that, you know, where they got stripped and

796
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.239
the thing about just being up on the hill and

797
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.880
there again you know that voice you were talking about,

798
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.639
you know, leave get downe off here, let's let's get

799
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:12.440
out of here. That that like it just came out

800
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:17.719
of nowhere. Like I don't know if it's some kind

801
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.199
of something I ate the night before where I wasn't

802
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.599
chemically balanced or something, But who knows.

803
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.840
It's you know, it's it's hard to say, but have

804
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.800
you you know, since you've looked into this for you know,

805
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.840
more than a few years, have you gotten to a

806
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.920
point where you have an idea of what it is

807
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.719
that people are dealing with when they have interactions with Sasquatch.

808
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.639
Well, I kind of am of the opinion that if

809
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:54.519
somebody really wanted, somebody with some skills, you know, I

810
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:57.559
really didn't want to participate in society, that they could

811
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.760
drop out of society and they could, you know, do

812
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.760
whatever they needed to do to survive. And who knows,

813
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.719
there may be people out there that have done that.

814
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:15.320
I don't know. Oh, another one that happened, I had

815
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.400
my man. We fought fire for almost twenty four hours straight.

816
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.519
We had done initial attack on a fire called the

817
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.199
Skull Fire, and we literally went out and scalped ourselves

818
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.679
in places to throw our sleeping bags at about two

819
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.280
o'clock in the morning and caught two or three hours

820
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.599
of sleep and got back up. But I remember waking

821
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.719
up the middle of the night and something heavy was

822
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.039
walking through my camp and all my guys were asleep,

823
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:47.559
and it was it was, you know, bipedal. It was

824
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.280
onto two legs. It was very heavy, and I opened

825
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.559
one eye and looked and couldn't see anything. It was dark,

826
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.840
you know, it was black. But it walked right through

827
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.480
the middle of my camp. And yeah, I don't know

828
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:08.400
what that was either, So who knows. Man. I've always

829
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.239
thought I'm gonna come around this corner and maybe today's

830
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:13.360
a day, or be out in the boat and see

831
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.480
when come down to the beach or something out of

832
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:20.559
the woods. But you know, it hasn't happened. There's just

833
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:21.840
so much stuff out there now.

834
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.079
The cool thing is that if you wanted to have

835
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.840
that sighting or potentially that interaction, if you're on Prince

836
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.679
of Wales Island, you're on one of the best places

837
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.320
in the world to potentially have that happen.

838
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.760
Now, A friend of mine, one of the people I

839
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.360
met when we first got there, and they've since left

840
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.320
the island, but he was a retired sheriff's deputy in

841
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:51.360
Sack from Sacramento County. Anyway, he told me that there

842
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.920
was a canyon up in there that the native people

843
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.639
don't go. But I don't know where that is. But

844
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.079
he said there's a draining and you're a canyon up

845
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:05.599
in there where the natives absolutely won't go. I just

846
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:11.840
remembered that, but I don't know where that is. Maybe

847
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.000
I'll have to look at my contacts and see if

848
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.960
maybe he's still in my contacts and still has the

849
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:17.840
same phone.

850
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.360
That might be interesting, and it'd be interesting if anyone listening,

851
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:26.719
you know, they might be aware of where that is

852
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.920
as well. If anyone has anything that they would want

853
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.000
to share about Prince of Wales Island, you can always

854
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:36.039
reach out to me. My email is Bigfoot Society at

855
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:40.679
gmail dot com. But you know, Larry and Monica, thank

856
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.239
you guys for hanging out today. I really appreciate your

857
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:50.199
time and sharing what you've heard and experienced over the years.

858
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:54.840
Yeah. Yeah, if anything else happens, you know, who knows.

859
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.119
But if anything else happens. You know, I'll pass it

860
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:03.039
along to you. I would just love to get solid confirmation,

861
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:07.159
you know, like nobody wants to get jerked on and

862
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.199
led across or some kind of groups or coaches you're

863
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:15.119
participating in, like you you know, I would just love

864
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.840
to like know for sure. But you know, this is

865
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:26.880
this is all almost evidence stuff, like a conversation down

866
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:31.559
in the woodside. I don't know. I don't know what

867
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:32.639
else it could have been.

868
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:39.360
I don't know, you know, to me, logically, I can't

869
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.880
think of many other things that would that would do that,

870
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.840
especially if it did sound like the Sierra sounds like

871
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.320
you were saying. But yeah, I mean, if anything else

872
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.679
comes up, you feel free to reach out, and you know,

873
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:54.800
you can always if there's anyone you talk to, you

874
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.880
can always feel free to pass on my info. Totally

875
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.320
up to you. But you know, as you said, it's

876
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:06.519
kind of getting into the getting you know, you move

877
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.320
to the island, now you have to kind of become

878
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.440
part of the people that live there, and that might

879
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.039
take a while for you to become a part of

880
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.239
them and certain ways, but yeah, thank you guys for

881
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:21.599
coming on the show today.

882
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.280
Yeah, certainly, man you're welcome.

883
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:35.480
I appreciate your time absolutely, just want to take a

884
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