"They're coming out of the Parks, They're inside the Cities, They're Everywhere!"

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time so far, so let's get
on with the show. All right,

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Big Society, We've got the privilege
of talking to Josh again. You may

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remember Josh from episode two ninety just
a little bit ago, episode two ninety

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a big Foot Society, and we
had talked about his counters in the Hatcher's

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Pass area of Alaska, and he
also had some things happen in Oregon that

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he shared in that episode as well. But Josh has reached out again and

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he's got some more interesting things to
share. How's it going today? Josh,

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Oh, that's good. Yeah,
it's good. It's a little a

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little excitement going on over here,
but pretty good. I just got back

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from a hunting trip down in Klima
Falls. Yeah, I just got got

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a lot to talk about. Oh
absolutely before we do. So what were

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were you successful on your hunt or
anything happened out of that? Oh?

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Well, I had found my way
into It's all difficult because I'm not I'm

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still new to the area, but
finding my way into the actual parks,

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Like because I got like just a
little fence, you got to figure out

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whether the trail is and I've never
i don't really know that area very well.

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So it took me most of my
time just figuring out where I get

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in. And once I was in
there, I think I spooked one deer

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and then I made a few grunt
calls and I heard one behind me,

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and I was getting exciting, had
a bow. I was ready, and

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all of a sudden, like get
one more grunt and then I hear it

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like clacking through the brush and it
jumps out and it's a young grizzly bear,

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surprised to see me. And I'm
like looking at my bow. I'm

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not sure if I'm like a good
shot with a bow to take him down.

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So I just chucked it in my
truck, ran to the front.

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He bolted into the bushes after the
other deer that I guess he was stalking,

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and I started interrupted, you know. But other than that, it

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was just mostly just exploring the area, driving around a lot. Wow.

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I mean, that's pretty awesome though, being able to see a young Grizzly

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bearer not expecting it that that's that's
pretty solid man. Yeah. But yeah,

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it's been. It's been different out
of here. A lot of a

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lot of the the the area I've
noticed. Its like it's like a lot

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of like expansion, a lot of
like really nice neighborhoods, you know,

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like McMansions on like postage stamp yards
and and everything and and so. But

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then there's like it's Oregon, so
there's still like big timber in the background,

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and like it's just like like modern
civilization is definitely has definitely creeped in,

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and like there's just like these weird
pockets of nature like cutting through all

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of it. And it's like one
second you're you're in like this like business

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park. In the next second and
you're like in like raw like wilderness maybe

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for like two or three minutes,
and then you're like back and there's a

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shopping mall, you know, in
a freeway, and you just it's it's

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it's it's unique. I would say, it's like in a unique spot,

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and it's like transition to like modern
civilization, I guess, similar to Alaska,

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but a little farther along exactly.
Yeah. Uh but uh yeah.

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When I when I moved here,
you know, all the all the big

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foot stuff was like in the background
of my mind, Like really I was

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worried about like like coyotes or something
or something like that, you know,

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something small like if I'm going to
the to the park or something with my

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daughter. Our house actually backs up
to like a forest like in it used

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to be an old rested part of
like an old orchard, like a hundred

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year old orchard, and so like
the trees on the section of woods are

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just huge, like old growth,
like uh, Doug Fair's tall, huge

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trees. I mean, it looks
beautiful, but it's a good place to

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hide. I recall one of the
episodes where you were interviewing a guy that

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was talking about how he hadn't like
run into them all the time, and

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they were like, he said,
like they're they're not up in the mountains,

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They're everywhere. They're being even behind
Burger King. And I I thought

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about that, and like I've noticed
that, like I would concur like,

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yes, that they are in fact
behind Burger King. They're like all over

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the place. Yeah, it's been. It's crazy because like essentially how I

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started noticing was my neighbor had told
me that there was like a what they

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thought was like a like a junkie
or like a drug addict or something.

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Real lanky guy looked like he was
from like Portland, which isn't you know,

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out of out of the question,
And you know, it's like a

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perfectly reasonable like thing to like look
out for. So he said, keep

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your head honest, well, just
like you know, keep a lookout some

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of the one of our neighbors just
saw him and he was in the park

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and I'm like thinking, I'm a
dad, I got a kid. I

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was like, Okay, I'll just
keep a lookout. It's my little office

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window. It faces faces the parks. I can I look at it every

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day, So I make sure I'm
just like I was always keeping an eye

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out when I was going to and
from the park one day, I actually

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saw the guy. He looked weird, like real lanky, real, like

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huge rib cage, real skinny,
looked like he was wearing like a track

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suit and like a hood. It
was like it was real weird. And

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he was like walking away and like
like slinking through the brush. Like I

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was like, oh, God,
okay, it's a it's a homeless person.

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And there's a lady who was walking
in front of me. She's like,

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hey, you can't be here,
you can't hey. He stopped and

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looked at her, and he had
he had black eyes, he looked ashes

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skin. It was pale and ashy, and it was like gross, and

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I was like ooh. But like
at the same time, I was like

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what was that? And I just
like make note of it, but it

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didn't like I was still like my
brain was like so focused on vagrants or

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something. And I saw that like
a couple of months later, like in

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the springtime, before the I had
actually I should back up. When we

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moved in, we explored the forest, we like looked all over the place.

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When we got here, the winter
started and we were like looking through

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say Mary where that guy was slinking
around. We found I found like a

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like a series of old some cedar
trees, and it looked like some people

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had been squatting in there or something, and like I just figured it was

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like the local kids or you know, finding a good spot to get high

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or whatever. So I was like, oh, well, this place is

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neat looking. We sat down inside, just like you know, looking around,

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like wowty kids got a roomy in
here, and didn't think anything of

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it. And fast word like a
like a whole year after I saw the

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guy slinking through the woods and all
that stuff, I see the same guy.

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He's like lanking his way out of
the brush, and I get I

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got a clean, clean look at
him. So he's coming out and like,

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oh, it's that guy in the
track suit. And I look at

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him again real close, and I
see him. It's like, yeah,

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his eyes are black, his his
his hands are like elongated and just ashy

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looking like longer than a normal persons, really long, and his forearms and

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his like like his his whole arms
were like extra long but like and his

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legs were long, but he was
super skinny, like his muscles weren't really

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there. And what he would what
he did was like keep pushed his his

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arms into his chest or his hands
into his chest, they're out like sort

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of flared him out. And then
like at first I'm like, is that

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guy on a bicycle? And it
was like there was no I couldn't see

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a bike. All I saw was
is like this weird posture and he like

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arches forward and he he like rocks
his head up and he just starts running

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back and forth and like like moving
past. And I was like, what,

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that's not a bike? What did
I just see? Because it was

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like he was a little bit outside
what I had expected to be, like

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what a squash was from my experience
in Alaska. It was just a little

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slightly different, Like the facial structure
was slightly different. He had more like

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he looked more human, like he
could pass for human, and that that

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was the crazy part. They could
pass for human. I also saw later

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on, like a couple of months
later or not maybe a monthly, I

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see this kid up in a tree
jamming a jamin a stick into the tree,

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and he looked he looked human,
but but like I noticed he had

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some back hair, and it was
just like yeah, like it was funny.

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I looked up what uh, and
he looked back at me. I

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go, hey, you shouldn't be, hey, son, he shouldn't be

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jamming on that tree. Don't wreck
the tree. And he muttered something at

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me and on some foreign language,
like I couldn't understand him, but he

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was like he was mad. He's
like rap, He's like like just looking

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back. I stop and look at
him. I'm like, this rich kid,

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what is he doing? And I
was like, then, look,

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he's got the black eyes too,
and there's a little glint, crazy glint

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in his eye. His eyes were
weird. And I wasn't. I was

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like, because like all of these
things were happening so far, Park,

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I wasn't really piecing everything together right
up front. Then fast words most recently,

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the I had been like on my
computer, you know, just like

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watching YouTube whatever, and I had
heard, like through my headphones, I

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heard something PLoP on the roof and
I'm like, thinking, hey, is

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it is it? It's like something
a little bit bigger than a raccoon.

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And I was like what And I
looked back and whatever I did, whatever

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was on the roof like bolted,
like but I had I didn't, like,

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I just looked and it bolted.
It happened again, like about two

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weeks later. I was waiting for
it, so this time I opened up

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the window to see what what it
was. And it was a little it

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was like a like a little four
foot long like like baby squatch like it.

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It had hair all over its body
and had like like its mouth open,

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its eyeballs and are like pitch black
marbles, look like an e walk,

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you know, but like but his
head was small, and and it

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just like he's up in a tree. He's up in the cherry tree just

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above the roof. He had jumped
that is like about an eight foot gap.

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So this this little guy jumped in
got an eight foot gap, was

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looking back at me. I was
like looking at him like whoa, hey,

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little guy, whoa. And then
all of a sudden, I hear

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a stump, stump, stomp,
and I'm like looking for the stump.

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And I realized, there's like mama's
looking at me. She's got a scowl

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on her face, she's not massive
around, and she goes she gives another

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stump stop. Then she turns around
and like sits back down behind the fence.

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And I'm okay, good night,
and and I just shut the shut

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the window and like turned out the
light and went to bed. I didn't

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want to deal with deal with that. Then, now that the cats out

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of the bag, I start seeing
seeing these guys hearing them in the middle

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of the day, and I decided
to just go over there and just look

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for tracks. And I found one
track took a picture of it, but

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you know that is I didn't have
any like plaster around me, so I

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didn't get any cash. I took
a picture of it, and then I

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followed the tracks into what I thought
might be the trajectory of like the the

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path they were taking through the through
the rush, and I sort of guestimated

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it kind of found more tracks,
followed them, and then it it's sort

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of dead ended like by this like
this berry bush. We'll be back with

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trees that I had like been sitting
in before, and it was all overgrown,

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and I didn't I had never seen
a little like a sasquatch little like

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nest looked like, so I didn't
know what I was looking at. So

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I was like, oh, I
guess they ran off. So they went

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through that way past the cell tower, and I was like, I figured

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they were gone, so but then
I'm like, I've scored a big score

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because I just found a huge berry
patch. So I go get my daughter.

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We get a bucket, and we're
back there. It's like himily and

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BlackBerry so they're huge and they're like
ripe and ready to go. I just

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sort of stopped my way through make
a little path for her, and we're

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just like picking little berries. And
I hear a twig snap like maybe four

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or five feet away, like just
to the left, that that ominous silent

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twig snap. And I look over
and I realize, I'm like, I

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hear like the soft pad and like
the heavy crush is like the the loam

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is being crushed under like a thought, like like a squatch is right there

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in the bushes and I and I
look, and I see cracks, and

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I see a hairy back, a
black hairy back. And then I hear

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another twig snap again as it ships
its weight right next to me, right

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next to me, and uh,
and I look back at the spot they

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the squatch moved out of the way
so I could see the light, so

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I knew for sure they were in
that little spot, and I realized they

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had built built up this little like
shelter right there, just like maybe like

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twelve feet off like the main trail
where like families are going by, like

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and I think what happened was this
this three or four soccer moms and like

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like twelve kids happened to come by
right as we were like right next to

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this thing. I think we're about
to get it. I think we're about

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to get snatched up. But because
those people had just been going by,

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I was like, all right,
we gotta go, and I got my

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daughter to sort of back out and
we went home. And after that,

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like I think they it was more
like I was aware and I knew what

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I was looking for, and after
a while I started getting used to their

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movements and like what they sound like
when they're moving from like left to right.

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And they started watching me because I
had like figured them out, and

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I was like clearly more aware than
like the regular soccer mom. They I

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don't think they'd run into a hunter
before, and so it was like like

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this weird tension and like they were
just sort of like started to just watch

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me, and like they had like
a little bush that they next to my

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garden that they could watch me from
and they would like observe me walk off.

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The kids would come up whenever we
were playing in the back yard.

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I heard like like little juveniles like
running up to the fence, like their

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little feet just like crunching leaves,
like just little steps. But like I

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was like picking them out, and
like at first I was I didn't know

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what to think because all I knew
was like they snatched up little kids and

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and all that stuff. So I
was like a little freak guy was like,

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all right, right, we got
to go inside now. And like

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my daughter get upset because she wanted
to play, but I was like,

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you know, she saw, she
saw that I was scared about something,

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and she said, okay, moving
inside. And I didn't explain to her

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what was happening. Ah, So
she she's I think she she sort of

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understood, but not really. She's
like she's she's like only three years old,

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so she does she's not really like
registering what's going on and that.

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And that's sort of got me just
like fascinated because I could I knew I

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could track, like I had keyed
in on what they sound like when they

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moved through the brush. I could
separate them out from a squirrel or a

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deer, and like when they were
like moving. And so then suddenly one

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morning I stepped out onto the lawn
and uh, I'm just here like a

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little m like just little little whoops, like baby whoops, like real tiny

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baby whoops. I was like,
oh wow, and it's it's it was

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a just like chasing the squirrel up
in the in the trees right above my

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cat. I was like, I
think they eat the cats. Uh,

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I'm gonna go stand next to my
cat. I got too close to the

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baby when I did that, and
then the mom got up, called to

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the grunted to the to the baby. Baby went down to mom. Mom

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stormed off, stomped off, She
knocked over to like three or four trees,

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like hmmm. And I'm like just
standing there just watching like nature and

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the raw just like just stomping away. And I was like, this is

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this might have consequences, But at
the same time, it was like so

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awesome, uh to see it.
But I was like sort of awestruck because

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she climbed, I mean me climbed
up into the trees and like swung from

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like these big timber branches like these
thick like like four inch branches. She

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us from like a like a springboard
like to like swing from like tree to

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tree, and you just hear it
like cracking, like loud cracks as that

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are like swinging on it, and
I like she gets down, drops down

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and plops right behind my garden.
I'm like, yes, I'm not watering

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today. Uh, but like just
the pole, just like the weight of

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her like plopping down and like hitting
the brush and just seeing the fence shake.

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I was like, oh my gosh. And I realized, like this

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is really tight quarters, like they're
they're in here and it's tight quarters,

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and I gotta watch my step and
I gotta respect boundaries. And they had

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been like from I'd like been like
watching them previously though, like kind of

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checking like right before sundown just to
see what they were doing. I'd walk

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past, and right around five thirty
or so, when the sun starting to

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set, you hear like you can
hear like a look at adible like yawn

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as like as they wake up and
they're like, you know, just like

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getting up, getting ready for the
night. And then what they were doing

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was like they'd be waking up,
they'd like mill around, get drubs or

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whatever in the midi area, and
when the sun finally like goes down,

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that's when like probably around like nine
ten o'clock, they'll start to move out

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into the immediate area or they might
have an objective. And that that night

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with the baby, they were gonna
go get acorns. But it was all

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of them, and I thought there
was only maybe three or four of them

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in there, but it was like
ten ten I didn't know about. They

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were spread out through the whole park
and they all got up onto the roof.

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I don't know if it was retaliation
or it was just business as usual,

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but they I could hear him PLoP
PLoP, PLoP PLoP, and they

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were all just like scurrying around on
top of my roof, and it was

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like terrifying. And then one of
them plops down. I could hear the

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hair like crinkled down as he sat
down and started picking at one of the

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exhaust like chimneys to the furnace.
I could hear it like I'm trying to

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mess with like one of the screws, trying to get it open, and

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here picking at it, and it's
like picking, picking, and then you

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just hear like echoing through like the
ducting, like the screws coming up,

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and I'm like, what's going on
because I can just hear him like just

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like going around and they're fighting over
acorns. And I go into like the

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like the back window just because I'm
I'm freaked out, and I'm looking all

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over the place, and then I
see it, like there's there's fifteen foot

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tall like like I can't see him, but his eyes are like flashlights,

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like it's crazy like Christmas lights like
beaming up looking at him. Then he

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sees me, and he's like looking
at me. He starts rocking left all

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right, and I'm looking at him, and I'm thinking, am I gonna

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have to assert myself? I gotta
assert myself. So I just lock eyes

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with him and and he's just like
looking and then he gets real he leans

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in to assert himself, and then
I I just lean into and I just

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get my eyes as big as I
can get on I just look at him,

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and I just try to give him
that that FAFO look, you know,

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after around and find out kind of
look, and like he like can't

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can't handle the direct eye contact for
too long and he breaks he breaks contact

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and he like SLINKs away, and
then all of a sudden, everybody just

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like piling off of like the roof. And then it's sort of like a

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weird tension, uh, sort of
growing in the background. So I got

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these potentially angry sasquatched living like thirty
feet away from my house, right,

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and I'm not I'm not sure if
I'm like equipped, like in terms of

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like firepower, and even if I
was, like it's like a suburban neighborhood.

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If if if things go like sideways
and I start shooting, I'm not

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sure if I can shoot in a
safe direction, you know. And it's

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it's like a really uneasy like like
I gotta watch my step because I don't

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want to force force the situation.
And so more and more, once they

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they once they realized that like I
could see them, they started changing how

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they moved because there was like a
weird hostility they I went out. I

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just wanted to sort of like make
amends because it felt like I was stepping

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out everyone's toes. I just threw
like a bunch of Brazila nuts, like

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some nuts out into the woods.
Uh. Earlier that day and or one

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of the following nights, and as
the sun was setting, the kids were

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finding it, and then like the
dad was like grunting at them to get

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back, get back. The word
for stay away or get away is is

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rah rah. And like when they
weren't listening and they were getting real close

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to the fence, he was he
was like he was like ruhu and he

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was just repeating it over an oregon
and then they stopped and they backed away,

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and I was like just watching.
It's like, okay, they have

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a language. They definitely have a
language, because like everybody knew what that

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meant. And then the next day
we I was like trying to hose down

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the lawn because it was dry because
we were like messing we had we're fixing

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our sprinkler system and so like the
yard was dry and I was just trying

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to just to save it. And
I'm out there spraying and the kids hear

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the water like plopping it out on
the leaves near the fence, and I

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can just hear like all of them
just like like am making a bee line

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just to check it out. And
like the mom was like and they stoppage

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and she was like uh uh,
and they and they they melted away.

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They just like went to other parts
of the woods, and it was like

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definitely confirmed like to like stay a
backstay away, you know, And that

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was interesting the what I and at
this point like I'm sort of going for

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going for broke now, I'm like
something. Now, I'm like I'm a

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little like on edge, and so
like every night I'm like patrolling, patrolling

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like the upper level. I'm like, uh, what I found is like

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if you if you can, like
if you have an extra room or something,

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turn on the lights and the extra
room and you can watch them from

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like a dark room. What I'll
do is the light will pick up on

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the back of their their their eyes. It's like it's super bright, like

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super bright, and you can you
can actually pick up where they're at.

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They're a lot easier to track because
they really reflect the light. That's like

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that's the one that's their achilles heel
is Like they have really reflective eyes.

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I'm assuming they can see really well
in the dark, like they've adapted to

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that. But the eyes are like
like I don't know if you remember,

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like as a kid, like if
you ever looked into the barrel of like

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the Nintendo gun for Duck Hunt.
Absolutely, yes, I know exactly what

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you're talking about. I don't recommend
people do that. That's not a recommendation,

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but I did know what you're talking
about. It just it just has

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like that that funny like gray like
really like deep reflect if lens. That's

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that's what their their their eyes look
like. It just like it looks like

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you can tell that things are magnified. So I'm thinking they have like an

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incredible like really sharp distant vision.
Uh at night. I would on occasion,

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what I've what I've seen like from
them was like when I started trying

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to do like I got some plaster, I was gonna try to get some

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tracks. One night they came back
from I think they got a deer or

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something, or they got a bunch
of like salmon or something. But they

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they I could hear them coming from
quite a ways away. Normally they steps

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off, but this time they they
had their heavy foot and like lead foot

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and their we'll be back with more
big Foot Society after these words from our

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sponsors, and like they were moving
kind of slow, and they walked past

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my window in a column and like
you could just hear him just like just

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move in a column. And I
was expecting to find like tracks. One

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guy one one of them jumped off
of my roof and down, so they

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were they had one guy just like
just in case I popped out, like

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they're gonna like pounce me or something. But I wasn't gonna stick my head

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out anymore. I was kind I
knew I was. I was cruising for

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a bruising, and I just had
to keep my nose down. But like

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at the same time, I'm like, I gotta I gotta keep an eye

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out, right, So I'm listening
to them like just like like you just

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pound through. And I realized,
Yeah, there was like ten or twelve

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of them, and about three of
them were really big and the rest were

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juveniles. Right, So there we
got a big family. They got one

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one big, one, big one, and like the mom and the pop

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are just the monsters like I I
would I would estimate like them like it

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it's probably like the mom's probably thirteen
and the dad is definitely a fifteen footer,

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like she just huge. I went
out there to just check for the

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tracks. I was gonna get a
cast, and there was one other guy

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jumped off the roof, but after
that they had raked the ground like there

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was no tracks they had raked the
ground behind them as they went into the

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park, and I was just like
the flabbergasted by the that's incredibly intelligent,

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Like these aren't animals at that point. And but I made one terrible cast

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and some wood chips where the guy
landed. I mean it gave me a

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good size. It was about like
like a fifteen inch like print. It

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wasn't like huge, but it was
one one of like the mid level juveniles.

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But after that, all I did
was like every night, just do

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the same routine. You turn on
the light, went far into the house,

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patrol into it, and look until
you see like a twinkle or something.

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And what I had once they had
figured out that I could see them,

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I saw one night while I was
like putting the kid to bed,

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she's going bonk or was just running
all over the house, and I got

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the eyeshine of some of them,
and I saw them coming out, not

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all at once, but like they're
like one, two, three, like

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like like I just really like delayed, like like you do in the military.

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It's like you don't just let go
at the same time, you just

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go go, go, go go, like real like taste and like hoping

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not to catch my gaze. But
of course yper aware and I'm seeing this

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and I'm pretending not to see it
just so I could observe it. And

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they did that, and after they
figured out that I saw them, they

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stopped coming out that way. So
there's like a trail that goes next to

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my house, next to my office
window, and so I can see everyone

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that comes in and out pretty well. And this time they've they've stopped coming

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out of that trail, and they
seem to be coming out the side trails.

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And one one one day after that, I I had noticed, like

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how how high they get up in
the trees. And most recently what I've

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observed is that they like the dad
will get up into one of the pine

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trees I've gotten. I figured out. It took me a second because I

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had to start taking photos. I
could zoom in and see what I'm looking

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at. The dad gets up in
the in the tree in the neighborhood,

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he looks around for for dinner,
and then he, like the signals to

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the rest of them, go that
way and they they snack on a cat

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or they get fruit or whatever they're
doing. And they they've been they've stopped

407
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:58.320
going for the acorns, or they'll
wait till I fall asleep to go after

408
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:04.679
the acorns. And last night the
mother, I got the gaze of the

409
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.199
mother and her gigantic hits like she's
huge. She's just like there's real boxy,

410
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:16.800
like just huge. It's a big
lady through my my my bathroom window.

411
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:22.039
My bathroom window is like really high. It's this tiny window. She's

412
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.760
looking in making sure I'm not coming, because I think she's trying to get

413
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.440
the baby up to get some of
the acorns. And and then I don't

414
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:36.360
know if she's like hanging on the
tree. There's doug fir tree to last

415
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.519
reach across, but it's like she's
big enough to sort of do it,

416
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.679
so I think she tried to get
the baby out. She couldn't get it

417
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.199
that way. I saw her eyes
and then she tried to look away to

418
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:55.800
hide, to hide her eye flash. And I just sort of like laid

419
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.400
down just to listen, just to
see what they do, because when I

420
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.880
lay down, they start to move
because they think I'm asleep or something.

421
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:09.199
I just wait, and then like
she got up on the roof and I

422
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:14.400
just saw that. I just felt
like the corner of the house. We

423
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.880
like sort of like boat a little
bit, because I don't think she she

424
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.000
knows she can't just go get up
on the roof. She's a little big

425
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:29.719
now. But I heard I just
felt here like gently as possible, like

426
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.639
trying to sit down on the side
of my roof. And I can hear

427
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.480
the little one just like git her
patterned towards the acorn tree and like he's

428
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.519
like up there, you know,
he brings branches back with like loaders of

429
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:49.760
the acorns. And I've found like
little like fang marks. I can tell

430
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.880
which ones are theirs and which ones
are squirrels because some of the fang marks

431
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:58.960
in the acorn will have like this
pus. They'll start running like this digestive

432
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:04.320
enzyme or something, and there's saliva. It will start oozing out of the

433
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.519
acorns like the squirrels. Its look
like it was nibbled, but like when

434
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:14.400
the squatches like are true and on
it, it has like this white like

435
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:22.079
mucus or something like oozing out of
the acorn. What I've noticed in terms

436
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:29.519
of like timing patterns, they seem
to go around like ten o'clock they're out

437
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:35.760
and about and about two in the
morning it's like the witching hour. They're

438
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:40.480
they're getting they're either they're hunting or
they're they're finishing up eating something, or

439
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.960
they're like sort of around. It's
like the big round up. It might

440
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.719
start out like small things. They're
just like looking and scouting around, but

441
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.800
like about two in the morning is
usually when they they're onto something and they're

442
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:58.559
the most active, and they're like
rotted around. They think nobody's awake anymore,

443
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.360
and so they're really just going fur
the going nuts in the in the

444
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.679
neighborhood and like all around. I
could just hear them just running back and

445
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:13.119
forth and like ripping around, and
like right around three forty five is when

446
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.079
they sort of try to pack it
in and that's when they eat, sort

447
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.519
of try to grab what you can
on the way back into the park.

448
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.880
And I remember you had mentioned like
right around three forty five, somebody was

449
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:34.519
messing with your zipper on your tent, right absolutely. I'm thinking what I'm

450
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.239
thinking is like that might have been
a juvenile like sasquatch, just like exploring,

451
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:44.639
just checking it out, Like maybe
mambo's right next next to you,

452
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:50.239
guys, But like they're probably on
their way home from like you know,

453
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:54.119
hunting or whatever they were doing.
But that that's what I've I've I've noticed

454
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:59.960
this, like they keep the same
pattern. They'll right around ten o'clock,

455
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.280
they're they're out and about. They're
like looking around. Some people are still

456
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.639
jogging around, and like the mom, I've seen her down from my bath

457
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.840
actually my bathroom when I had a
good advantage board my neighbor's drive away,

458
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:23.360
and the baby seemed to be really
fascinated with the one of those like you

459
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:28.079
know how the yards have those little
like down lights that are like the little

460
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.199
lamps. Like he was really fascinated
with it. So I'd see him like

461
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.960
messing with it, and the mom
sort of sitting next to him while he

462
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:42.119
explores. And then like a guy
with like a skinny guy with a flashlight

463
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.199
will just walk like like not even
a foot and a half away from them

464
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:51.079
both like just like trying to get
home. You know, he's looking like

465
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.800
it was just amazed me, like
how one how quiet they can be,

466
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.519
how close you can be to them
without like even knowing they're there, and

467
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:06.559
like it makes you wonder, like
how much how much you're Like I wonder

468
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.840
if there is a sasquatch out there
and then like you while you're wondering that

469
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:19.360
you're walking past a sasquatch, you
know, there's a I got of a

470
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:28.800
couple of photos of the eye shine
of Like what I've noticed is like when

471
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:34.039
the mother, when she's got a
young she separates her from the main group

472
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.719
and she'll like keep the younger,
the youngest ones kind of away from the

473
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:44.480
bigger ones. I'm guessing because they
get aggressive or something. But she'll stay

474
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:52.039
separate, and when whenever day goes
out, the young youngsters will stick to

475
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:59.119
like her little like tree and they'll
be up in her tree while while they're

476
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.800
like everyone else is out hunting and
they're like waiting for food, but they're

477
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.440
they're up in the tree and what
they're doing is they're just like scanning around,

478
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.159
just looking around. That's all they're
doing is just looking around, looking

479
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.400
for mom, looking for danger.
But they're like you just see their little

480
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:23.000
eyes like like ah, just like
really bright little twinkly eyes as they like

481
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:30.159
pan around, and like the rims
of like the iris are the brightest,

482
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.679
like I'm guessing because like the light
reflects back and it's the brightest around like

483
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.679
the edge you can catch the edge. You can tell where they're looking because

484
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.320
the edge is like the brightest,
So yeah, there's a bright little ring

485
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:50.159
inside the eyes and they're they're looking
down. And absolutely every time I go

486
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.039
to peak and see if they're there, all eyes, all of the eyes

487
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:59.639
are like twinkly little eyes like wherever
they are in the forest, like just

488
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.960
like laser focused right on me.
Like they all like make eye contact and

489
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.960
like it's incredible, like how quickly
they zip like they're they're on me,

490
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:19.360
and then like, uh, it's
it's like I'm trying to like, you

491
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.800
know, keep a lookout, but
I'm also trying not to upset the apple

492
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:29.840
cart too much more, you know. But last night it was a little

493
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:35.159
crazy because they had decided to stick
close to the neighborhood. Normally, they

494
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:40.199
don't touch anything or like mess around
in this in on our block, they'll

495
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:45.519
they'll go out and they'll like leave
like a rampage like the path of destruction

496
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:52.079
about like two two blocks out.
But like right here, it's like everything's

497
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.840
untouched. They don't touch my garden, they don't touch the berries, they

498
00:43:54.840 --> 00:44:00.519
don't touch anything. The squirrels are
like running around like they're not touching anything.

499
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:08.039
They just like keep a really low
profile. They don't they don't make

500
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:15.639
any loud like like grunts or they
don't call. They're just really silent.

501
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:21.159
They're like really well, I guess
you call it noise discipline. They got

502
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:28.519
really good noise discipline, but they're
they're very stealthy about it. And but

503
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:38.320
I've I've seen a lot of like
thinking back at my daughter's preschool there,

504
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:45.800
the ladies there had told me that
there was uh a skinny guy like breaking

505
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.000
into the one of the sheds at
the edge of the parking a lot closer

506
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:57.960
to the forest edge, and they
called the cops. The cops got to

507
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:01.239
them, told them to freeze,
and like he ran, and the cops

508
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.360
said he was like a guy in
the track suit with sunglasses. He ran

509
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.840
and jumped and leaped up onto the
roof and he had moved faster than anybody

510
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:15.000
you'd ever seen before. We'll be
back with more big Foot Society after these

511
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:23.000
words from our sponsors, and not
a single person was like made the connection,

512
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:28.480
Like, was was that a guy
you know? Was that big foot?

513
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.360
You know? Because or maybe they
did and they just weren't allowed to

514
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:39.760
like just report that. But it's
it's real funny. Like if you if

515
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:50.000
you say, in your neighborhood,
if you notice like trails in between places,

516
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:53.360
like say like a in an urban
area, you'll you'll see it like

517
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.000
a trail, looks like a game
trail or something's been like working it.

518
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.159
And like in Californa, I just
assume it was just homeless people. But

519
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.199
I think I've seen it everywhere now. But like Alaska, you could say

520
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.800
it's a bear on moose or something
like that, and then like you when

521
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.880
thinking anging of it, but like
out here, we don't have we don't

522
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.159
have bears in the city. We
don't have moose out here. There's like

523
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:24.079
there's like a little tiny deer like
go and throw like a little they're not

524
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:31.599
very heavy, maybe eighty pounds right, and you can you can see like

525
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:37.199
there's like clearly something heavy has been
using like little little pockets. You'll see

526
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.960
all the bushes, the brambles will
be sort of like hollowed out and they'll

527
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.920
be like a little path going in
and out and they're like, oh,

528
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:52.079
they're like peppered across like the the
area. Like you'll see him like zig

529
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:59.760
zag darting like back and forth.
There's some old farmland that like I've been

530
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.320
ready to like a park so people
will go there to walk, and so

531
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.519
they have a bunch of like you
know, nice fencing and stuff. And

532
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:15.039
I started noticing like somebody was knocking
down the fencing. I'm like and seeing

533
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:22.440
that there was somebody had also knocked
down steel fencing at at one of the

534
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:29.840
vineyards here, and like it was
like clearly a path just going down through

535
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:37.199
and down at the bottom of the
hill kind of is where my daughter's preschool

536
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:45.760
is, and like you just down
at the bottom, somebody had like parked

537
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:52.599
their camper van and it was like
like normally nobody, nobody parks that stuff.

538
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.880
They don't. They don't like seeing
like abandoned vehicles and stuff. But

539
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.360
like it was down at the bottom
kind of in the same sort of path

540
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.480
is where they this other stuff had
been happening. I see it there for

541
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:07.920
a couple of days, and then
all of a sudden I drive past it.

542
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.480
It looked like it exploded, like
the top had been ripped off,

543
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.280
like the all the like the innerds
and everything was like shredd. There's like

544
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:22.239
shards of stuff like somebody had driven
like under an overpass or something. Like

545
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.440
it just blew just completely exploded,
but it was parked there like nobody had

546
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.000
been touching it, so it was
in my mind, I'm thinking that the

547
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.320
squatch had just like ripped it apart, just like looking for like scavenging stuff

548
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.840
and didn't know what they're doing,
but like something like ripped it apart,

549
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:44.639
like it's the only the only thing. It's the only reasonable explanation. So

550
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.440
I don't think high school kids could
do it that that kind of destruction.

551
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:57.360
It's just it had to be like
the sasquatch. But the I've been driving

552
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:07.320
around some of the neighboring cow and
there have been like you do see that

553
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.800
these trails and like these things that
cut through the fences and then you'll see

554
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:16.599
like these like tore up trees and
like bushes and it just looks super squatching

555
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.480
in there, and like look over
and it's like, oh, it's behind

556
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.760
the it's behind the best buy.
Well great, and like like once I'm

557
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:29.119
aware of it, like it was
it was everywhere, Like it was everywhere.

558
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:34.920
These things are everywhere, and I'm
thinking they've been here the whole time

559
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.159
and we're just like not, we
never noticed because they're so good at at

560
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:47.159
hiding because they're ambush predators, right. I recently went out to a U

561
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:54.840
pick orchard with my wife and daughter
on like a weekend before last, and

562
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:04.920
they I had, we had up
the car and like we went we picked

563
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.800
picked apples. You know, everything
looks nice, everything's clean cut, real

564
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:13.239
over, real kept. And then
on our way back to the car,

565
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:19.320
you know, we pay for our
apples. Uh where open up the back

566
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.840
of my my wife vehicle and we're
just like welding up apples. Daughter has

567
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:28.280
to go to the bathroom, blah
blady blah, and I get a little

568
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.320
time to just sort of look at
my surroundings, and I realized like some

569
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:37.400
of the apple trees didn't look very
well kept. They looked real jagged and

570
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.159
like bushy and weird and like this
like creepy looking, and like I'd seen

571
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.840
like a spot where they had mode
the grass but they didn't want to go

572
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.800
too deep into it. And I
was like, this is like a squatchy

573
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.559
uh And like luckily the couple had
let me borrow with one of their buckets,

574
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.800
so I had to go return the
bucket. It I go, I

575
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.280
just we're talking about apples, and
then I said, I love these apples,

576
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.039
but I gotta keep the sasquatch off
of them, just as a joke,

577
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:12.679
just to sort of drop a hint
that I know what's going on.

578
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.199
And then like she just rolls her
as she's like, oh my gosh,

579
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:20.559
don't even get me started. And
apparently, according to this lady, it's

580
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:27.719
like a local. She says,
like like the people in the know are

581
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:34.559
saying that these these guys are in
all the parks they're they're in like a

582
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.159
lot of urban areas. Now they're
not like staying to the woods. They're

583
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:43.679
like actually coming into the cities and
they're sort of like becoming a nuisance.

584
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.760
And but you don't care about it
because nobody talks about it because it's like

585
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.320
the elephant in the room. It's
like if you bring it up with a

586
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.480
lot of these people, it's like
nobody wants to believe you, or they

587
00:51:53.480 --> 00:52:00.440
get rolled. You know, you
know, they get and it's in like

588
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.559
really eye opening, I don't know, just like the idea of like you

589
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.000
go out on this grand adventure,
you get out into the mountains, you

590
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.239
would expect to see like something like
that if you see a sassquatch, Like

591
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:20.000
wow, that was incredible, but
like you come home, it's like I'm

592
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.920
probably cooled camping for a while.
I'm just gonna relax here. And and

593
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:30.480
now it's like you know, they're
they're here too. They're absolutely everywhere,

594
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:37.239
and I'm just trying to figure out
in the wintertime, they weren't in the

595
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:43.440
forest, they weren't in there at
all, and I'm trying to figure out

596
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:50.079
where they might go. I've just
by chance of like just like you know,

597
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:54.880
looking into the like the area,
there are like a series of caves

598
00:52:55.719 --> 00:53:02.079
nearby, like within like the the
west An area and like, but they

599
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:06.480
won't say where they are because they
don't want people like trashing them. So

600
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:10.320
it's like a like a local secret. But I'm kind of wondering if they

601
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:17.400
don't just like hunker down in the
caves for the winter and then you sort

602
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:23.480
of come back in the spring,
like like they're still like hunting and doing

603
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:29.599
their stuff, but they're like staying
warm, warmer in out of the cold.

604
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:38.199
But I don't know, like just
like after would you say, like

605
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:45.320
if you have you noticed anything in
your area in terms of like like trails

606
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.480
or like weird stuff that's out of
place, like bushes and stuff and pour

607
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:53.039
up trees. So would you stay
out there, Josh, I'll say that

608
00:53:53.599 --> 00:54:00.320
our areas are completely different. I
live in small I'll just say small town,

609
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:07.679
Iowa. There's not not much where
I'm at. But I do have

610
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:15.840
some questions for you, though.
Yeah, for sure, this is extremely

611
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.880
interesting. Can you remind us I
know you had mentioned it in the previous

612
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:29.039
episode you were on the general area
where this is taking place, and you

613
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:34.719
know, keep it as vague as
you need to for anything you can provide

614
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:39.519
for context. Oh, okay,
I'm in a town called west Land.

615
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:46.239
It's a in ah Clackland's County.
It's just it's just south of Portland's but

616
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.400
like half an hour outside of like
twenty five minutes out of outside of Portland.

617
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:59.440
It's like on the other side of
the will Lammette River. It's sort

618
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:07.760
of one side is like Oregon City
and Candy, another side is Tigered and

619
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:13.719
Sherwood, And there's a lot of
little towns that are like sort of like

620
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:22.480
suburbs of Portland essentially. But we're
on like a like the the opposite side

621
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:23.880
of the river. It's like for
the rest of it, So we don't

622
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.880
we don't get like a lot of
crime on this side of the river.

623
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.559
It's it just it. Most of
the stuff happens on the opposite side.

624
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:39.679
But yeah, so just south of
Portland, I'm like right on the back

625
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:46.880
side of Westland. So I'm like
just a kitty corner to a bunch of

626
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:53.360
ranches and farm farmland and there's like
a few big yards. It's like it's

627
00:55:53.400 --> 00:56:00.039
surrounded on all sides by river.
So there's like the Touileton River meets the

628
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:05.599
the wall Lamte River and on the
north side is a place called Lake Oswego,

629
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:10.960
and that is essentially we're like on
a like a giant hill and the

630
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:17.519
down the probably the northeast corner of
the hill is where you get into Lake

631
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:23.559
Uswego, and it's it's pretty much
like a weird little like peninsula of like

632
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:28.920
it's either it's river or it's lakefront, but it's like surrounded by water.

633
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:35.079
And just to the to the east
is a mount Hood, so we're kind

634
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:43.199
of in the foothills of mount Hood. To the west is Astoria and like

635
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:50.079
the Oregon Coast and like all that
stuff out there like till the mook.

636
00:56:51.440 --> 00:57:00.280
Uh. It's yeah, so it's
like I would say like when Stern,

637
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:06.119
Oregon. It's more of a rainforest, decide, but just south of Portland.

638
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.800
It's very interesting when you look at
it on a map because you can

639
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:17.760
definitely see how it is that southern
part of the whole Portland urban sprawl,

640
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:24.440
but the green is there, and
it's definitely like you could see that.

641
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:31.639
You know, it's starting as it
grows more and more this Portland suburb area.

642
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:37.920
It's slowly taking over more and more
of the woods, I would guess,

643
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:44.480
and you could see how stuff like
this could definitely happen with with different

644
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:55.639
types of of animals losing their habitat
for sure. Yeah, totally. It's

645
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:00.559
just so funny. Look, it's
a little ominous too though, Like I

646
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.440
IF I IF I when it gets
about that witching hour and I start looking

647
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.880
at windows sometimes I'm looking now,
I'm just looking for straight eyeshine. I

648
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.360
didn't even bother trying to look at
for shapes. I'm just looking for the

649
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:22.599
shine. And I got one peaking
at me through the passenger window of the

650
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:24.360
opposite side of the car. I
was like, what is that bright light?

651
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.079
It was like, I said,
it flash light, and I realized

652
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:34.079
it was just one one eye He's
just peeking through a tinted window, but

653
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.599
I could still see the flash.
It was so bright. But like just

654
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:44.000
the fact that they they slink around
like that, like they're just very like

655
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:52.440
elusive. And I've had it like
come up like when I was in my

656
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:58.159
garden. This was like last week
in my garden, a little after the

657
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:06.800
whole like upsetting mama and like the
whole eye contact thing. The dad like

658
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.440
came up to the fence line and
he just went in like I could hear

659
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:21.679
him just go wow. And then
I look and then like I hear him

660
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:25.599
move, and like he's already like
behind like a timber tree, like ten

661
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:30.960
feetback and he's peeking at he's looking
at me now like broad daylight, and

662
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:42.000
uh it it was. You know, he's got big beady but like big

663
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.440
round black eyes like like an e
walk right, but like a big gorilla

664
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:52.920
head human knows like like a pudgie
knows, like real thick jaw line.

665
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:59.719
Uh like big big gorilla lips but
like real flat face. We'll be back

666
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:07.920
with more big Foot Society after these
words from our sponsors. Uh. Like

667
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:12.679
the hair you know, goes up
to a point to the nose, but

668
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:20.039
like it all flares out right around
like the chin line up I had sent

669
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:25.000
you like like pictures of like drawings
is like the best I could do from

670
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:29.960
like I like trying to remember from
like twenty thirty years ago. And they're

671
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:37.239
pretty close but like not as like
not a spot on as I would like,

672
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:45.199
but pretty close. The uh the
nose on them is like they have

673
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.920
a really strong like bridge like from
like the forehead down to like where it

674
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.840
meets like the face like that where
that dips in by the eyes. It's

675
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:59.519
real thick, like straight down but
then it sort of flattens up and then

676
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:04.000
it comes back out like a triangle
look us off like triangular shape, but

677
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:09.559
it's also pointed down and like it's
sort of like the shadow of it makes

678
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:17.239
like a nice chevron. But yeah, what's it. I know there's that

679
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:22.079
guy that's controversial that it was like
getting all these head shots of like those

680
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.960
uh that everybody's like, I don't
know, it looks fake, but Todd

681
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:35.199
Standing that's it. It It was
it was he did ah. It was

682
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.679
essentially pretty close, not as hairy, but like the one where they hid

683
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:43.519
that the young one with the big
round eyes is just like that. It

684
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.280
was just like that, And yeah, I was. I was a little

685
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:50.920
surprised by that because like when I
saw it, I thought it was like

686
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.719
fake. I'm like, nah,
I think he's just because he's only getting

687
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:58.280
the head shot, Like like where's
the rest of the body. Either he

688
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:02.760
knows what they look like and he
just had like and made up, or

689
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.760
or they're real because like the Curtains, like Geist for like Bigfoot is like

690
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:16.079
this big sweeping hair like punk with
like like you know, chilling with Sasquatch

691
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:22.159
or like teen Wolf, you know, like Harry and the Henderson's like not

692
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:30.360
not not, it's not what it
I don't know. It's just like if

693
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.039
I was gonna make it up,
I would make it look like that because

694
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:36.199
that's what everybody knows, you know, that's how they identify it, you

695
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:42.280
know exactly. And I just I
just feel like, look, if it's

696
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.400
fake, he fooled me. Like
I think it's real. I think what

697
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:51.599
he's got is real because it's just
it's just too too a little out of

698
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:57.800
the ordinary because like too specific to
fake. You know, those features are

699
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.079
like dead on. So I'm thinking
that's he caught them in the winter time.

700
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:06.039
They got more hair on their face
or something. Maybe they don't got

701
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.760
maybe they shed it in in the
summer. Who knows, Like I don't.

702
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:14.679
I don't even know what they're life
cycle is beyond just like how they

703
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:20.400
hunt right now and it's it's summertime, which is interesting to think about.

704
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:30.039
Like if you've ever seen like some
of those those uh videos or those TikTok's

705
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:34.599
where they were like people are like
saying, oh, a ghost is coming

706
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.079
to visit it, like a girl
and like you see two twinkling eyes and

707
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.639
it's and she's like it's back again, and like it's starts knocking on the

708
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:47.840
glass and she's like films it and
it's it's a sasquatch tapping on the glass

709
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:54.199
getting or to come outside, and
you know they're they're saying like pulture geist

710
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:58.880
or something, and like you just
go through YouTube and you can find it,

711
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.320
like a lot of stuff where they're
just saying, like the guy who's

712
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:06.400
going fishing and like all of a
sudden he hears a roar and he's like,

713
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:11.159
what's that? I don't know?
And there's like tons of big foot

714
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:16.239
footage that people don't know as big
foot footage because they're not looking out for

715
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:19.800
that because it's like it's not like, oh, that was something weird,

716
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:26.119
because they're not thinking about that stuff. But it's it's interesting to think that,

717
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:30.800
like you could probably go back through
your your library and just like see

718
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:33.400
a video where it was something weird. You listen to it one more time,

719
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:38.440
he's like, oh, well that
is a squatch. Oh wild,

720
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:44.159
and like it's just like it it's
a situation and you can sort of like

721
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:48.679
lean a lot of like information just
off of what was happening in the scene,

722
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:54.360
and like it's a lot easier to
pick it out because at that point

723
01:04:54.360 --> 01:05:00.159
they're not trying to trick you because
they're you know, it's like they're are

724
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:03.239
trying to do like a fishing video
or something, and like a squatch screams

725
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:08.000
at them and they're like, I
don't know what that is, but they

726
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:13.000
don't ever claim it's a sasquatch,
And like you can sort of cherry pick

727
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:17.840
that stuff. It's like it but
it is hard to sort of like you

728
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.639
really got to be on your toes
when it's like when you're looking at this

729
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:25.239
stuff because there's so many people they're
just trying to trying to fake it,

730
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:31.000
And I don't know, it's just
seems like it just seems like you can

731
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:35.519
you can easily just as easily put
less effort in and go find an actual

732
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:43.320
sasquatch and like get the footage with
like some trailcams or something, and like

733
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:45.440
call it a day. But like
they go to a lot of effort,

734
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:49.280
like thousands of dollars for a suit
and it doesn't look right, and then

735
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:53.400
they run, that's good. You'll
hike in the woods and run around a

736
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:58.360
little bit, and like like you
could just walk behind a Best Buy just

737
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:05.840
snag the photo. Have you ever
considered putting up trail cams around your house

738
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:13.800
or having like an audio recorder going
at night? I thought about the audio

739
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:24.519
recorder, but like I got one
trail cam, and whenever I put it

740
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:30.400
out, uh, activity ceases on
like that side of the house, right

741
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:34.119
and like and I'll see I'll see
stuff happening on the other side, and

742
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:39.559
they moved the camera over there,
and then nothing, It'll be nothing.

743
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:45.079
And I've just been doing this dance
and I just couldn't figure it out.

744
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:51.039
And like what what I'm I think
is going on is like they'll be up

745
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:54.679
in there there'll be a scout up
in the tree just watching me, just

746
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:59.000
dedicated to watching what I'm doing because
I'm mister snoop. I'm snooping around too

747
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:04.000
much. And they can get way
up into the canopy where I can't really

748
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:10.360
see them, and they'll just look
down comfortably, you know it's got the

749
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.199
area and sort of get a sigense
of like what I'm up to, and

750
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:20.719
then like they know to just go
around or avoid it, or or it

751
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:25.519
might not even be that that complicated. It might be that like they just

752
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:32.519
can see like the infrared and like
the cameras are probably putting off like a

753
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:36.039
crazy light. They're like, what
is that? Okay, get away from

754
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:43.360
that thing. I've thought about going
up on the on the roof and like

755
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.000
strapping it to the chimney just under
the oak tree. But I'm like a

756
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:53.960
little like I'm not sure if they're
watching me when I do it, And

757
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:57.599
like I said, like as soon
as I move or mess with something,

758
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:02.480
they sort of change their behavior and
like sort of avoid that thing for for

759
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:08.079
a little a little while. But
if I was going to do like cams,

760
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.519
I need to do like ten of
them and just like put them out

761
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:19.199
and I think the audio recorder probably
be easier because it's like real small and

762
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:23.680
you can just like dig it by
the fence and just see what happens.

763
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.000
Oh yeah, you can set up
to record for certain hours of the day,

764
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.760
doesn't have to be going all all
the time. Have you remind me

765
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:35.720
have you talked directly to your neighbors
to see if they have seen similar things

766
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:45.239
to like what you're experiencing. I
don't think it's it's it's one of those

767
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:51.840
it's like keeping up with the Jones. It's a it's a like a middle

768
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:58.840
class like other middle class neighborhood,
and everybody's really in their lane and nobody

769
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.760
right, nobody talks like that.
Like I have to get out to the

770
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:06.359
country where people are a little more
relaxed. Well, they'll shoot, they'll

771
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:11.479
shoot the breeze with me about it. But like like the people that own

772
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.720
the orchard, they can like once
you drop it, it's gotta be usually

773
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:18.479
it's gotta be really blue collared people. I found it like I went into

774
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:23.840
cabella As when I bought the game
cam. I just like the girl at

775
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:28.079
the at the register, I go, hey, do you guys have any

776
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:32.479
like flear technology or any sort of
like heat sensing, like scops or anything

777
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:35.880
like that. I got a sasquatch
problem at my place, and I'm trying

778
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:40.600
to sort of just get a beat
on what they're doing. And like she

779
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.359
roller second, Oh my gosh,
tell me about it. And like,

780
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.159
so I think a lot of people
know. I don't, but I don't

781
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:53.479
know what my neighbors and my direct
neighbors know. We'll be back with more

782
01:09:53.479 --> 01:10:00.199
Bigfoot society after these words from our
sponsors. Sure, and they also they

783
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:05.000
also even really just like they keep
to themselves and like I'm a little more

784
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:10.840
boisterous and outgoing. So it's just
I don't want to intimidate them too much,

785
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:14.319
so I try to trying to sort
of stay in my lane around here.

786
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:19.920
But like when I'm outain about I'll
ask people, it's a very interesting

787
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:26.760
situation you have going on, for
sure, and be interesting to see how

788
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:31.800
it develops. Yeah. Yeah,
Do you feel that you're safe in the

789
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:38.359
area that you're at or do you
guys kind of feel like, you know

790
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:45.479
a little bit, like you're under
surveillance. I feel like I'm under surveillance.

791
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:53.439
My wife has just looked so busy
with her work that like it's like

792
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:59.159
you know, trying to even though
I'm showing her photos of stuff like with

793
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:02.279
like guys stuff, she'll try to
explain it away. She doesn't want to.

794
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.319
She really doesn't want to hear it
still at that time, and she

795
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:13.159
doesn't want me telling her daughter about
this stuff and like having her go to

796
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.039
school and like I'm scared that they
just like she doesn't want her being scared

797
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:24.199
about it. But me personally,
I'm I'm a little like I know they're

798
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:30.760
watching me, and I know it's
like, bro, I'm on thin ice.

799
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:33.880
I'm on thin ice over here,
like trying to snoop around so much.

800
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:40.319
I've I've I've ruffled some feathers and
I don't I don't feel as comfortable.

801
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:45.840
I haven't been through to the park
anymore. I just stopped going.

802
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:51.319
I just like they don't like start
to come in my yard and they keep

803
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:56.720
a wide berth, and I think
if I start going into the park or

804
01:11:56.720 --> 01:12:00.640
anything like that, it's it's like
all bets are off. So I've just

805
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:09.560
sort of been sort of like a
weird little like island. Uh And but

806
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:17.319
yeah, I don't I know that
like in terms of like protecting myself.

807
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.800
I'm I'm a crack shot. I
mean I can I can lay out some

808
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:28.319
some rounds. But but at the
same time, I'm like, I don't

809
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.199
know, I just uh, I
feel there is some there's some tension,

810
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:39.680
like I don't I don't feel safe
honestly, and and it seems like the

811
01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:45.720
neighbors in the area are just blissfully
unaware of what's going on. Because when

812
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:50.039
I when I had upset, originally
upset the mom and she'd stormed off,

813
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:54.880
I was crashing through the trees and
like all this stuff, there was like

814
01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.239
five or six girls like coming up
the trail, laughing about whatever. When

815
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:04.239
the other person said just like blissfully
unaware of the danger, they were directly

816
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:10.520
and and like like thankfully, like
the mom just like picked a spot and

817
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:15.199
PLoP down and like it sort of
ended there. But like there's there's like

818
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:21.000
moms and kids and dogs and nobody's
nobody's noticing this stuff, and it's like

819
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:26.039
me, me alone, and like
it's like a sprinkling of people that already

820
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:29.479
know about it, you know,
but for the most part, most people

821
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.960
are just they don't it's not registering, and like that that makes me feel

822
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:41.600
unsafe too, because if if you
know, like I've I've heard stories of

823
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:53.000
them like like snatching up kids through
the window and like you know not you

824
01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:57.079
know, like I could be I
could go around the corner or something,

825
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.119
or I'll be in the garden or
something like they could easily just like reach

826
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:06.239
out and like just end me,
like snap my neck, rip my head

827
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:11.920
off. And it's it's like an
uneasy feeling that my fences are very strong.

828
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:17.319
It's like a rotten old fence,
and uh, it's just really unsettling

829
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:24.119
just to sort of know that like
I'm on on on that knife's edge and

830
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:28.680
I really just gotta watch my step. So like in terms of investigations and

831
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:32.159
stuff, I'm gonna keep I'm just
gonna keep my nose down for a little

832
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:36.199
bit. But what I would like
to do, like it like an ideal

833
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:41.680
world where I had where money was
no object, I would I would do

834
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:47.760
like a like flear like cameras on
on drones and just do a fly by

835
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:57.079
and then like like ten trail cams
and just catch something because like I can

836
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:00.640
hear where they're going, I know
what they're where. They kind of like

837
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.359
bopping around and like if I could
get in there, put a bunch of

838
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:09.000
trails, a little cams around,
get the get the flare, going to

839
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:14.680
see the body heat, see where
they're at. Yeah, you could get

840
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:18.239
all sorts of great evidence. But
it's it's real. It's not it's tight

841
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:25.479
quarters, it's too tight, and
it's it's weird. Like if I didn't

842
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:29.560
live in the area, if I
was just like a passer by like that,

843
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:31.640
they didn't recognize. If I just
look like a regular person, like

844
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:35.439
walking the dog, you could you
could PLoP some. You could PLoP some

845
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:43.399
like quick little like cameras down,
No big deal. Uh, but they're

846
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:48.279
they're on me. They're on me
like the gang. But like uh drag

847
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:53.239
net, Like I gotta, I
gotta, I've really gotta watch what I

848
01:15:53.279 --> 01:16:02.800
do. I've tried to reach out
to Cliff at the at the the big

849
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:08.840
Foot Museum, likes say, like, ask for some advice. All he's

850
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.159
already just get some it's a great
opportunity to get some casts. And I

851
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:18.199
was like, so it's it is. It's been a pretty pretty tense like

852
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:23.279
so, yeah, I don't I
don't feel safe, but I feel like

853
01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:28.359
they're they're hardwired to hide, and
so They're not going to just come out

854
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.520
and like get me, But if
I give them the opportunity, they'll properly

855
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.840
like snatch me right up. So
I stay out of the woods. I

856
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:40.319
stayed. It's kind of away from
the fence line, and I kind of

857
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:46.680
got my little bubble. I stay
in m It's it's a very interesting story,

858
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.359
Josh. And as I said before, it'd be interesting to see how

859
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:55.920
it develops. But if there are
listeners in the same area of you know,

860
01:16:56.039 --> 01:17:03.119
West West Lynne, the the area
just south of Portland, and you're

861
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:09.199
noticing things like this, please reach
out as well. Bigfoot Society at gmail

862
01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:14.119
dot com. Sounds like there could
be something interesting starting to happen in the

863
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:18.359
south area of Portland. But I
guess I could get with. I mean

864
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:24.880
the park. If you want the
actual park it is, it is Merylhurst

865
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:33.600
Heights Park. It's right right at
the top of the hill. Interesting.

866
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:43.279
Yeah, I feel like I think
a random person can get through, maybe

867
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:46.359
strack some cameras and just like do
a pass through. You might catch something.

868
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:56.880
But they're they're definitely still in there. I can see there's every night

869
01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:03.680
I'm seeing like the kids like balling
around or jam in on trees. Like

870
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:10.199
actually last night or three nights ago, I actually did see like that one

871
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:14.199
kid with the stick. He was
like twenty feet up in the tree.

872
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:17.720
I could see him. I could
see a silhouette and they looked over and

873
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.600
I could see the eyes shine.
And I'm new for sure. So there's

874
01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:27.279
like I think they have like there
might be like an issue where like they

875
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:30.840
don't produce as much body hair right
off the bath, but then they start

876
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:35.760
maybe they sort of like as puberty
hits, they really just put it on.

877
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:41.159
Because I think I've seen that that
kid like run into the park and

878
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:46.720
steal sandwiches from the birthday parties.
Because like if if you look at like

879
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:53.560
like like any sort of like primate
species, if you look at the babies,

880
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:57.319
their their hairline is just like a
humans. It's just like just a

881
01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:00.960
little hair on top, maybe no
hair on the body, and they look

882
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.439
like a little like a little kid. It looks like a big melon head.

883
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:08.720
And like I've seen these kids like
come through, run up, grab

884
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:12.920
grab a couple of sandwiches or something, or some treats from like the tray.

885
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:17.640
It like some of the birthday parties
under the covering and like run back

886
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:21.079
into the bushes. I was like, initially when I saw that, I

887
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:26.640
never put two and two together.
I was like, oh, like this

888
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:29.640
seems like a great place to live, you know, like the little redneck

889
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:40.720
kids getting into trouble and uh oh, I'm getting seemed to flash it might

890
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:46.399
be flashlights. Yeah, it looks
like it's flashlights. That's good. Okay,

891
01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:54.520
pretty pretty wild stuff man, yeah, oh man, uh yeah,

892
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:58.600
sorry, so it it. It's
just like it's like there's like a thousand

893
01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:01.840
stories on him, just off the
top of my head. That like a

894
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:08.720
bunch of little things. Yeah,
if you're if you're in the area Marylthurst

895
01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:11.399
Heights Park, just give it a
pass through or just go check it out.

896
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:15.359
Just look around, but don't go
too far off the trail because there's

897
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:20.600
a day walker day watcher, so
like left like over by like the cell

898
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:27.000
tower. They'll have their little like
hut or their nest and an opposite side

899
01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:31.720
of the trail, like usually the
mail will be like watching people from like

900
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:34.039
the behind the trees, and you
can hear them, like you'll hear it

901
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:39.359
like a twig snap or something.
So it's best just to like sort of

902
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:44.800
trying to take in what you can, like you're pretending to walk through and

903
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:49.680
then just like like like GoPro or
something and just just trying to catch it

904
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:57.840
on the fly. Great advice for
people to take if they do decide to

905
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.840
to take a hike in that area. Yeah, but Josh, I appreciate

906
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:06.840
you coming back on to provide an
update for what you're experiencing down there south

907
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:12.640
of Portland. Yeah. Yeah,
I just appreciate you let me talk about

908
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.840
it because like there's I don't have
any many outlets for the stuff. So

909
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.760
it's it's a little a little off
putting, a little stressful, and it's

910
01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:24.520
it's good to get off my chest. Absolutely. Well, you have a

911
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:29.840
great night, Josh. Hopefully you
get some rest tonight. Yeah. You

912
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.399
two. Thank you. You're a
Bigfoot Society art goal is to provide a

913
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:41.079
platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot
to share their encounter in a safe and

914
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:45.600
respected environment. But we need to
hear your story. If you've experienced something

915
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:51.920
that you just can't explain, please
send me an email at Bigfoot Society at

916
01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:57.199
gmail dot com. Then we can
start the conversation. And I know a

917
01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:01.680
lot of you have not shared your
encounter at all. It's been twenty years,

918
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:06.520
and it's time that you get this
off your chest and then you can

919
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:10.680
get some well deserved for rest,
because I know you haven't been sleeping.

920
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:15.800
I understand what you're going through,
and I appreciate every one of you listening